=== jalcine is now known as Jacky === sikon is now known as lucidfox === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [05:29] micahg: do you by chance know why installing wine would automatically begin the removal of a handful of development packages? [05:29] debhelper quilt etc etc? [05:29] bkerensa: conflicts from various i386 packages? [05:29] ahh [05:30] makes sense [05:30] most will probably be bugs [05:30] err...some [07:07] good morning [07:08] good morning === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:27] Morning dholbach, geser. [08:39] hi iulian, dholbach, geser :) [08:41] hey iulian, hey ajmitch === yofel_ is now known as yofel === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [12:23] MoM is back :) [12:50] geser: indeed, abusing it already ;) [12:51] how evil ! === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [14:44] stgraber: hey, welcome back from holiday. :) can i get a review of this proposed fix? i'm thinking of implementing it in a private project and would like feedback: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/855556 [14:44] Launchpad bug 855556 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) ""Restart" and "Shut Down" don't work if anyone else is logged in" [High,Confirmed] [14:53] achiang, hmm, are you sure that gets cleaned up somehow after install ? [14:54] to me it looks like the modification is permanent [14:54] (given you say in the description it only affects the live session) [14:55] ogra_: i admit, i am not 100% sure. but on the other hand, the script i modify says: # Policy to allow the livecd user to bypass policykit [14:56] ogra_: so if it is permanent, then we have a way more serious bug in the existing casper script [14:56] well, i'm not sure if that file will get copied by ubiquity or not during install [14:57] ogra_: booting up a clean precise installation now. [14:58] * ogra_ only has non live installs handy here ... else i would have checked :) [14:59] theoretically i think every user with physical access should be able to shutdown/reboot though [14:59] since you can just use the power button anyway :) [15:00] ogra_: hm, what is a "live install" ? this machine i'm checking was installed by: 1) download precise iso 2) use usb-creator-gtk to copy to USB key 3) boot into ubiquity (i didn't launch a guest/live session first) [15:00] well, a live install for me is one that uses casper in some way :) [15:01] ogra_: so, i don't see that file got copied over, but i also don't know if i did a live install via your definition. but i'm still pretty confident that file doesn't get copied into a real install. taht would be insane [15:01] you did a live install [15:05] achiang, to me it looks good btw [15:05] ogra_: ok, thanks. i guess i will wait until a sponsor actually picks it up before i check in the equivalent fix into our private branch. :) [15:08] achiang, one nitpick though, you shoulldnt close the LP bug from the changelog, after all its only a minro improvement, i think the bug has a bigger scope [15:08] *minor [15:09] ogra_: ah, i agree it's only a minor improvement, but i don't know how to avoid closing the LP bug from the changelog. what should i write instead? [15:10] i dont think we have a generalized way for that, i usually use (Launchpad: #123456) instead of (LP: #123456) [15:10] or something similar [15:11] the parser only parses (LP: #...) [15:18] ogra_: (still reading backlog), ubiquity copies /rofs, not /, so that change will only apply to the live environment [15:18] stgraber, oh, indeed [15:19] achiang: can you restrict the change to only allowing shutdown/reboot? unless I missed something it looks like you're allowing every admin action. Not really a big problem considering none of the admin UIs are visible in the greeter, but still, no real need to allow it either [15:21] stgraber: hm, but at some point, our project will want to allow the lightdm user to do things like select and authenticate to a wifi AP and other potentially admin like things [15:27] achiang: I'm not a big fan of needlessly allowing things in security profiles, but I guess in this case I'm fine with it ;) the ubuntu users is already logged in everywhere and has password-less sudo rights, so there's indeed little benefit in having fine grained security profiles for the rest [15:27] stgraber: great, thanks! shall i fix up the nitpick that ogra_ pointed out, or is the MP good to go? [15:29] achiang, ogra_: I think it's fine keeping the LP: # entry so long as we have a separate casper task on that bug and don't close the other tasks [15:29] stgraber: ok, i leave it in your hands then. i'm not a motu, so need a sponsor. :) [15:29] yeah, add a casper task [15:30] * ogra_ didnt think of actually *adding* more tasks :) [15:30] achiang: ok, will upload in a minute. casper being in main/core package set, you actually need a coredev :) [15:31] stgraber: ooh, shiny. my first coredev patch. :) [15:31] stgraber: thank you much [15:33] achiang: done [15:33] stgraber: merci! [15:36] Any bug supervisor here? [15:39] vibhav: everyone with upload rights is automatically added to bugcontrol [15:42] tumbleweed: Can you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/644578 and nominate it for oneiric? [15:42] Launchpad bug 644578 in update-notifier (Debian) "gettext required by package scripts, but not a dependency " [Unknown,New] [15:42] vibhav: why don't you apply for bug control? [15:43] I got A +0 [15:44] vibhav: nominated [15:44] thanks! [15:46] Laney: Because the example I showed were more inclined towards MOTU [15:46] examples* [15:46] And not for triaging bugs [15:50] Laney: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg03712.html and the next thread FYI === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:51] vibhav: I'd make it clearer that you want to join bugcontrol to help you do MOTU work [15:53] sure [15:53] I will reapply again [15:55] vibhav: or, just triage 5 bugs :) [15:55] tumbleweed: could you enter your endorsment on my Application please? Then I can schedule myself in the meeting :) [16:15] tumbleweed: What do I write in my application? === bregma_ is now known as bregma === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [21:34] micahg: did you get a test build of openclipart completed? [21:34] if not, I'll start one off on my home box & be patient [21:38] vibhav: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl#Application [22:11] ajmitch: no, almost did it last night, but then decided to go to bed, can do tonight [22:14] micahg: no rush [22:17] I wonder if anyone would scream when I drop the ill advised pdl ubuntu delta dating back to bug 29798 [22:17] Launchpad bug 29798 in pdl (Ubuntu) "enable NaN support" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29798 [22:19] jtaylor: why is it ill-advised? [22:19] from my understanding there is no gain [22:20] well its a peice of ubuntu history so I'll keep it, likely on the next perl transition the merge blame will fall back to cjwatson due to the rebuild ;) [22:20] heh [22:21] is it something that's been discussed with the debian maintainer? [22:21] debian maintainer rejected it as bogus [22:21] bug 1000972 looks intersting, the trigger running right after perl is unpacked, I guess that can be ugly [22:21] Launchpad bug 1000972 in pdl (Ubuntu) "package pdl 1:2.4.7+dfsg-2ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000972 [22:22] to bad I have no idea of perl and am not going to touch it :P [22:22] ask Laney all about trigger ordering :) [22:22] :| [22:23] * ajmitch takes the whiskey bottle off Laney [22:23] I see there was no response on debian-dpkg about that question [22:23] yes, indeed [22:23] do you fancy mailing -devel? [22:24] * Laney cannae handle the abuse [22:24] you can explain the situation better than I can though [22:27] then laney can tell you what to write, and you send it :p [22:27] * LordOfTime is kidding, but still [22:27] I already wrote it to -dpkg :P [22:28] bah, I'll do it [22:29] a gracious volunteer [22:29] lol [22:37] * Laney ph33rs