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zulcan someone review python-jsonschema please its sitting in binary new, and its blocking glance11:47
cjwatsonzul: Sorry for the delay.  For main inclusion, I expect that the MIR team will want (a) a watch file and (b) for the package to run its test suite at build time (e.g. 'python -m unittest discover').  Neither of these block acceptance into the archive, though, so accepted.  Thanks12:00
zulcjwatson: cool...ill get to that today, thanks12:00
cjwatsonzul: Hmm, why does python-jsonschema seem to install into /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ directly rather than as a symlink into /usr/share/pyshared/?  Am I hallucinating?12:02
zulcjwatson: im not sure but ill take another look at it12:02
cjwatsonNot a big deal since there'll be no python2.8, but it's a bit weird12:08
pitticjwatson, zul: I think that's completely expected12:14
pittidh_python2 just does that now, it seems the /pyshared/ approach has been dropped12:14
pittii. e. it affects all python packages now12:15
pittinot just -jsonschema12:15
cjwatsonOh, huh12:15
cjwatsonSurprising12:15
pittiNB I'm not saying that it really should be like that, just that it's not package specific, but a changed behaviour from dh_python2 apparently12:16
cjwatsonYeah, I see that now12:16
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ScottKpitti and cjwatson: The change doko made in dh_python2 in Ubuntu is uncoordinated with Debian and gratuitously breaks packages.  It should be reverted.14:19
ScottKThe relevant bug is Bug 100191214:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 1001912 in python-defaults "dh_python2: revert pyshared removal in 2.7.3-0ubuntu3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100191214:21
slangasekScottK: doko is currently away so you shouldn't expect a quick response from him; I think you should go ahead and revert it for now as the safer option15:18
ScottKslangasek: Thanks.15:18
ScottKslangasek: Would you mind saying so on ubuntu-devel ML too (so I can point to it when he gets back)?15:19
Laneywell, he has been replying on the bug15:19
slangasekI mind saying on ubuntu-devel that he's away, yes :)15:19
ScottKslangasek: Right, I mean that I should go ahead.15:20
ScottKI don't mind leaving the reason out.15:20
highvoltageI guess inside canonical you have some kind of free/busy calendar.15:20
highvoltageit would actually be nice if there were somewhere where anyone could mark themselves as temporarily away.15:20
slangasekScottK: sure15:20
highvoltage(sorry I'm just thinking out aloud)15:20
Davieycjwatson: Hey, what changes do i need to make on nusakan to start using a livefs?15:48
* ogra_ wonders if you actually need any code changes 15:50
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ogra_theoretically you might be able to just use the right cmdline15:51
cjwatsonDaviey: mail me the details of what you're doing and I can advise and/or sort it out15:52
Davieycjwatson: Does it really need a mail?  'make ubuntu server use live-installer'15:52
* ogra_ thinks theoretically teh following might just work ... : buildlive ubuntu-server daily-live && for-project ubuntu-server cron.daily-live15:53
ogra_but you will likely need ubiquity adjustments or do you plan to run under X ?15:54
Davieyogra_: We've tested with d-i net installs, using live-installer udeb, not ubiquty.15:55
cjwatsonDaviey: please mail me :)15:56
cjwatsonI don't have a lot of spare brain15:56
cjwatsonand I need to know what if anything you've done to livecd-rootfs so far15:56
cjwatsonalso you guys owe me two live-installer bug reports from UDS15:57
skaetcjwatson, can you add me to the response.   Would like to understand this.15:57
cjwatsonDaviey: ^-15:57
Davieycjwatson: were they not reported.. *sigh*.. Sorry... Well, we can't switch until they are fixed.. So, i'll shelve this, pending those bugs.15:58
cjwatsonDaviey: have you done anything to livecd-rootfs?15:59
Davieycjwatson: nein16:08
cjwatsonDaviey: here, I have one of the bugs fixed locally already (missing kernel).  do you remember off the top of your head what the other one was?16:18
Davieycjwatson: One was kernel not being installed if outside the squashfs.. and the other was a debconf value for remote retrieval of squashfs16:20
cjwatsonoh, that one16:20
cjwatsonhm, not sure how to do those two simultaneously, mind :)16:20
cjwatsonmaybe it would be easier to disable the kernel hack in server squashfs generation for now16:20
* cjwatson also notes that live-installer doesn't seem to update the initramfs, at least from code inspection16:21
Davieywell.. if you are netinstalling, you don't have the kernel on the filesystem, do you?16:21
Davieywhich means they need additional retrieval, unless bundled into the quashfs (yucky)16:21
cjwatsonbundling it into the squashfs isn't particularly yucky16:22
cjwatsonit's a removal of an Ubuntu-specific optimisation *shrug*16:22
ogra_all other squashfses carry it16:22
Davieywell, it means for cd image, the kernel is shipped twice?16:22
cjwatsonYes16:22
cjwatsonNot the end of the worl16:22
cjwatsond16:22
Davieyno.16:22
cjwatsonIt makes some difference for space, but we got by without it for quite a while16:22
cjwatsonupdate-initramfs> Ah, never mind, it'll remove casper and then update-initramfs, now that I look at it16:23
Davieycjwatson: okay, bundling seems reasonable, and satisfies cd and netinst.16:24
cjwatsonI've fixed live-installer to cope with unbundling (I think) anyway16:24
skaethttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule16:28
Davieyoo, thanks16:28
skaethas been updated, based on the interlock.16:28
skaetif anyone spots any glitches,  please flag.  :)16:29
skaethttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock16:29
skaethas all the key events in it now as well.16:29
skaet(getting a few more details added from Linaro though...)16:30
cjwatsonDaviey: and you have network image support as well, assuming I didn't screw it up.  can't easily test it until we have images.16:36
ScottKIs the chroot problem on nihal known?  See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/2.7.3-0ubuntu4/+build/350955816:45
cjwatsonI got ops to fix that, but didn't go through and retry stuff.  Oh, but that's more recent.  Not again.16:47
cjwatsonreported16:48
ScottKThanks.16:55
cjwatsonHope those boxes get upgraded to precise/armhf soon ...16:56
* ogra_ hopes for highbank instead :) 16:58
stgraberogra_: you should have put that calxeda server in your bag while there weren't looking ;)17:05
ogra_damned, now you tell me !17:05
ogra_though i would have been to sick to carry it i guess17:06
ogra_geez17:25
ogra_ubuntu-server-dove/quantal/armel+dove failed to build17:25
ogra_i wouldnt have thought i'd ever seee such a message again :)17:26
highvoltageogra_: awesome!!!17:26
ogra_heh17:26
ogra_i doubt building dove was intentional :)17:26
highvoltageogra_: that's going straight to google+!17:26
cjwatsonogra_: wasn't intentional, I was experimenting but not with that; I'll fix it up in a bit17:40
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Laneybest. process improvement. ever.22:07
slangasek?22:08
Laneyoh, you've ignored queuebot :P22:08
slangasek;)22:08
Laneybackports DIY + queuebot = fast acceptance22:08
slangasekso was that sarcasm? :)22:08
slangasekah22:08
slangasekthe queuebot should just send to twitter22:09
stgraberthat's certainly easy to implement ;)22:10
tumbleweedthat was a very fast backport!22:10
Laneystill binary NEW to go!22:12
* Laney whips ubuntu-archive22:12
ScottKLaney: That's not the proper backports versioning.22:13
ScottKShould be 1.9.9-1~precise122:14
Laneyit is what broder and cjwatson came up with at UDS22:14
ScottKSigh.22:14
ScottKAny particular reason to change or are we just changing for changes sake?22:14
tumbleweedto work around the zaney zebra wrap-around22:14
DavieyI thought there was a concerted effort to try to reduce the use of codenames post release?22:14
cjwatsonWe're about to wrap round the alphabet.22:14
cjwatsonFSVO "about".22:14
cjwatsonWe need to stop assuming that codenames sort.22:15
ScottKOK.22:15
ScottKBackports is approximately the last place we need to assume that though.22:15
ScottKerr .. stop assuming that.22:15
cjwatsonIndeed.  But why wait? :-)22:15
cjwatsonIt's also one of the few places that was assuming it in the first place.22:16
ScottKIt's certainly a change there should be some communication about.22:16
ScottKOK.22:16
Davieywell, i would hope that there would be a newer upstream version of software come wrap-around time for the backports usecase..22:16
Davieybut yes, it's a race regardless.22:16
ScottKI mind the surprise more than I mind the change.22:16
cjwatsonI was hoping broder would send mail about it ;-)22:16
Laneyhm, the process page doesn't mention versioning at all any more22:17
* cjwatson eyes openlp and wonders if he can get the local primary school to stop using Powerpoint for projecting hymns ...22:17
Laneythe modern age... back in my day we made good with OHP22:18
Davieyhand written lyrics no less.22:19
Laneyof course22:19
Davieykids today, don't know they are born, eh Laney ?22:20
* Laney shares a Werthers with Daviey 22:21

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