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inetprogood morning05:56
superflytumbleweed: thanks!06:02
superflyMorning inetpro06:02
* superfly is on the train currently06:02
inetprohmm... die trein na maatjiesfontein?06:03
superflyinetpro: nee, die trein na kaapstad06:07
inetprolol06:07
superflypity it isn't bound for maatjiesfontein06:07
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sakhiMorning.06:45
superflymorning sakhi06:46
Kiloshi superfly nuvolari inetpro and others11:03
Kiloshi queery 11:05
queeryhi oom Kilos11:06
Maazqueery: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell queery get your LPI ID here   https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/register  or just google LPI ID and there are more sights for free books and exam info etc" 47 seconds ago11:06
KilosMaaz, google LPI ID11:06
MaazKilos: "Register - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute ..." https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/register :: "Taking Exams | Linux Professional Institute (LPI)" http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/taking-exams :: "Verification Code - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux ..." https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/certification :: "Login - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute (LPI)" https://cs.lpi.org/ca11:06
queeryMaaz: botsnack11:06
MaazYay, at last someone thinks about me as well11:06
Kilosyo Superhuman 11:07
queerythank you oom Kilos11:07
Kiloshehe11:07
Kilosyou are welcome11:07
Superhumanaweh Kilos11:10
Kilosbbl11:11
zerefhurrrmmmm11:24
charlvnhi all11:32
* Kilos visa granted after 1 year and 6 days12:25
bakumanto where?12:29
Kilosaustralia to see my daughter12:29
Kilosand her mom of course12:31
charlvnwtfbbq are you serious12:40
charlvnhow the heck did that happen12:41
charlvnoh he's gone already12:41
tumbleweedsuperfly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openlp/1.9.9-115:32
nuvolariwhoot! :D16:20
nuvolariMaaz: tell kilos baie geluk oom! dit is 'n groot klip uit die pad!16:22
Maaznuvolari: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode16:22
superfly\o/ yay! Thanks tumbleweed!16:29
superflytumbleweed: you mentioned "build chroots" or something like that for packaging... do you know of a good guide to setting one up?17:11
* superfly sees plenty of options, but is not sure which is preferred17:13
tumbleweedsuperfly: sbuild is the preferred choice. There's an mk-sbuild script in ubuntu-dev-tools that's pretty good17:14
superflyOK, cool, I'll check that out. Thanks!17:14
Kiloshi superfly and others18:02
MaazKilos: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "tell kilos baie geluk oom! dit is 'n groot klip uit die pad!" 1 hour, 40 minutes and 36 seconds ago18:02
superflyhiya Kilos18:02
Kilossquirm did i say i would get you a link for something18:03
Mezenirhey kilos18:03
Kiloshi Mezenir 18:03
Mezenirhey superfly18:03
superflyyo Mezenir18:04
* superfly is doing the happy dance today18:04
Mezenirindeed ?18:04
highvoltagesuperfly: another baby on the way?18:05
Kiloshehe why superfly you hit the jackpot18:06
Kiloslo highvoltage next fly due in october i think18:06
highvoltageoh wow, congrats superfly 18:07
superflyhighvoltage: yeah, that too, but that's not the reason for this happy dance :-)18:07
superflyKilos: August, not October18:07
Kilosoh sorry18:08
superflyhighvoltage: thanks to tumbleweed, I have a package in Debian and in Ubuntu18:08
highvoltagesuperfly: ooh! congrats again! :D18:08
superflyta :-D18:08
Kiloswell done superfly 18:08
Mezenirsweet18:08
Kilossuperfly, now fix freenode so it doesnt use so much data18:09
tumbleweedsuperfly: going to backport it to precise?18:11
superflytumbleweed: yup, busy getting the sbuild stuff set up18:12
tumbleweedcool18:12
Kiloshi tumbleweed charlvn 18:12
charlvnhi Kilos 18:12
charlvnhow's it going18:12
Kilosgood ty and you?18:12
charlvngood good man18:13
Mezenirhey charl and tuble18:14
Mezenirtumble18:14
charlvnhi Mezenir 18:15
Mezenirpretty quiet tonight18:18
Kilosyeah too cold to type lots18:18
Mezenirhehe18:18
Mezeniri finally got my email allowing me to order a raspberry pi18:19
Mezenirhappiness18:19
Kilosyou fast typers must make a hellova draft18:19
Mezenirhehe18:20
Mezenirmy flat is small18:20
Mezenirhard to get cold18:20
Kiloslol18:20
Kiloshi plustwo you been quiet lately18:20
Kilosevening psydroid 18:22
smilebye! :)18:31
Kiloshi bye smile 18:32
smilehi bye kilos :)18:33
Kiloslol18:33
Kilosare you coming or going?18:33
Kilosyour nick shows you grayed out here18:33
smilegoing, sorry :p18:34
smilewill come back later :)18:34
smile(tomorrow)18:34
smilegood night :)18:34
Kiloscheers smile 18:34
inetproKilos: I like the good news!18:34
Banlami was holding him back18:34
Kilostell inetpro 18:34
inetprowhen are you flying?18:34
Kilosha ha Banlam 18:35
Banlam@ubuntu-afr18:35
Banlam#ubuntu-afr18:35
Kilosaw it will take a while for the plane fare inetpro but at least its another step forward18:35
inetprocool18:36
inetproso what's the next step?18:36
Kilosthats it18:36
Kilossoon as i get a ticket i go18:37
inetprohow much is a ticket?18:37
Kilosthey say the visa is valid for 2 years and i can go as often as i like for 3 months at a time18:37
Kiloslast i looked was about R1500018:37
BanlamKilos is skipping the country?18:37
inetprohmm... only 3 months?18:38
Kilosat a time18:38
inetproKilos: eish!18:38
charlvnthat's strange18:38
charlvni got a visa once to go to bangladesh, it was only valid for 6 months but then i could enter and leave the country as much as i wanted to inside of that timeframe18:39
Kiloscharlvn, i applied for a tourist visa18:39
charlvni guess every country has a different policy regarding visas18:39
charlvnah i see, that might be different, i got a business visa18:39
charlvnonly time i ever needed a visa though so not sure what is "typical" anyway18:39
Kilostourist is for 3 months and once there you can apply to have it extended to 6 months18:40
charlvnah that's not so bad18:40
charlvnso you planning a nice long visit?18:40
charlvnnever been to austral asia, looks like a very beautiful place to visit, although quite warm in the summertime18:40
Kilosas long as i can yes charlvn . they have uncapped18:41
inetproKilos: when are you getting married again? :-)18:41
charlvnyou mean internet? interesting, i heard the internet in the region isn't too good actually18:41
Kilosmost likely within the first month or so inetpro 18:42
Kilostara can stream youtube all day so it cant be too bad18:42
inetproyikes!18:43
charlvnthe question is, at which quality, youtube supports 240p :)18:43
Mezenirwow18:43
Kilos?18:43
Mezenirso youre moving there ?18:43
charlvnif you can stream 1080p uninterrupted then it's not bad18:44
Kilosfirst going for a visit to meet my daughter18:44
Mezenirmeet ?18:45
Kilosthen i can even try unity18:45
Kilosyeah i have never met her18:45
Mezenircool18:45
Kiloswe bust up and disappeared18:45
inetproKilos: I seriously hope that you get the funds together asap and everything will just go perfect as planned18:46
Mezeniryou must be excited18:46
Kilosty inetpro 18:46
Kilosyeah Mezenir  i am18:46
Kilosshe is a singer of note18:46
Kilosin my opinion, maybe im biased18:46
charlvnthat's perfectly fine if you're the dad :)18:47
Mezenirhehe18:47
Kiloslol18:47
Mezeniri thought i was a singer of note18:47
Mezenirturns out i was biased :)18:47
Kilosshe has just got through the first 4 rounds of this years xfactor australia18:47
Kilosnuvolari, has the link to it 18:48
Kilosi have lost so much trying to sort out all my stuff, dunno where to find anything anymore18:48
inetproKilos: thre's a new posting with a video at https://twitter.com/#!/TaraLSOfficial/status/20492830682554368018:49
Kilosoh is that a new song inetpro 18:49
inetproYou Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman18:50
Kilosi dont twitter or anything any more18:50
Kilosis it good18:50
inetpropretty good I think18:50
Kilosas goos as I will always love you?18:51
Kilosgood18:51
Kilosthat must be a home recording inetpro 18:54
inetproKilos: yep, looks like she was playing around18:55
inetprostill pretty good though18:55
Kilosian was in an accident today . some twit hopped a stop street and side swiped him18:56
inetproeina, he ok?18:57
Kilosi thought the audition last year of tara's was really good so hope she doesnt mess up this year18:57
Kiloshe has just come out of xrays and waiting for the report. hurt neck head and leg i gather18:58
inetproyikes!18:58
nuvolarilol... being a singer of note, or off note?18:58
nuvolariI'm off note in the shower18:59
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 18:59
nuvolarig'evening Mezenir, charlvn, inetpro 18:59
charlvnhi nuvolari 18:59
inetproehlo nuvolari18:59
Mezenirhey nuvo18:59
Kiloshi nuvolari 19:00
Kilosyou still got the link for taras xfactor audition last year19:00
Kilosso Banlam can see i got good genes19:00
Kilosnot denims either19:00
Banlamwhat?19:02
Mezenirhaha19:03
Kiloshehe19:03
nuvolariMaaz: tara.link19:04
Maaznuvolari: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara19:04
nuvolarihmm. not sure if that's it19:04
Kilosits not there anymore i think nuvolari 19:04
nuvolariit is oom Kilos 19:04
Kilosoh i thought i took her out there so i dont interfere with her chances19:05
nuvolariKilos: we only hid the site from search results19:05
Kilosmy site is there yes but i think she is out19:05
nuvolariI'm talking under correction now...19:05
nuvolariKilos: I'm looking at the 2 videos...19:05
nuvolarimight also be because you gave me access :P19:06
Kiloswow are they still there?19:06
nuvolariso not sure if it's public19:06
Kilosoh19:06
Kiloscant member when last i was there19:07
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Banlami have no idea what is happening 19:08
Kilossy is weer deur tot by die boot camp nuvolari 19:08
Kilosmy brat Banlam 19:08
Banlamone of your kids?19:08
Kilosyeah19:09
Banlamok19:09
Kilosthe one im going to meet in aus19:09
inetproKilos: if I google her name I get a video that has been seen 414,895 times19:09
inetprohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl019:09
Kiloswhew19:09
inetpro1,994 likes, 29 dislikes19:10
Kilosswhe has many fans but who knows what happens when the public votes for their favourites19:10
Kiloslol 29 dislikes19:10
Kiloswhat do they say why they dislike her19:10
Kilosha ha19:10
inetproKilos: heh, I would just not worry about those if I was you19:12
Kilos?19:13
Kilosinetpro, did you see the fly has 2 packages in debian and ubuntu19:13
inetproKilos: heh, it's you who has been scarce on here19:14
Kilosoh ya. i cant stay online19:14
inetproof course19:14
Kilosfreenode uses 200kB per hour19:15
Kilosmxit under 100kB a day19:15
inetproKilos: obviously you can't compare it like that19:15
nuvolarithat much? probably the pings. but still, I thought it was less19:16
Kilosi have to compare it to something19:16
inetproall depends on how many channels you open on freenode and whether peeps are chatty or not19:16
Kilosi only open here nowadays19:17
Kilosbut even when no one is chatting freenode uses every 20 secs or so19:17
inetproKilos: what port do you connect to?19:17
inetproKilos: on freenode19:18
Kilosoh my19:18
Kilos800119:18
inetproKilos: do you specify to connect with SSL?19:19
Kilosnope that block is unticked19:20
inetprook19:20
inetprobecause if it was enabled then it was probably gonna use more19:20
Kilosjust the one that says use global user info is ticked19:21
Banlamif you're worried about 200kB/hour19:21
Banlamyou have bigger issues19:21
Kiloswhew19:21
inetproalthough I could be wrong on that19:21
Kilossuch as ? Banlam 19:21
inetproBanlam: he has no income19:21
Kilosoh19:21
Kiloshehe19:21
Banlam:x oh19:22
inetproBanlam: Kilos is one very inspiring man if you ask me19:22
nuvolari++ on that!19:22
inetproable to help people against all odds19:23
nuvolari:> oom Kilos is one of my heroes19:23
Banlam:)19:23
* Kilos blushes19:23
Kiloswhen i get to aus i will be online all day again19:24
nuvolariwhen are you going there oom?19:24
inetproBanlam: when we first met Kilos he used to tell us how he lost half his brains on the farm19:24
Kilossodra ons die vlieg geld het nuvolari 19:25
nuvolarimy mom is still scared of flying over the water. My parents are going to Auz next month19:25
Kiloscan i get in her suitcase?19:25
nuvolariI guess if you go on a really quick-strict-diet19:25
nuvolari:P19:25
Kilosha ha ha19:26
Kilosi go sleep now guys. have a good night19:26
Kilosnight all19:26
charlvnciao Kilos 19:26
nuvolariok oom Kilos 19:26
nuvolarilekker slaap19:26
inetproKilos: good night19:26
Kilosjy ook dankie seun19:26
inetprogood luck with Ian19:26
Kilosnight inetpro 19:26
Kilosty very much will let you guys know tomorrow19:27
inetprocharlvn: am I correct in assuming that a SSL enabled connection to freenode will use more bandwidth than without SSL?19:30
inetproI wonder how much of a difference it would make19:31
charlvni don't think it will make a huge difference19:32
charlvninetpro: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/548029/how-much-overhead-does-ssl-impose19:33
inetprovery interesting, thanks19:35
superflytumbleweed: ping19:36
inetprocharlvn: I guess then that together with encryption they also use compression is some clever way?19:36
inetproanother interesting read: http://www.belshe.com/2010/11/18/ssl-compression-and-you/19:39
inetproThe authors of SSL knew that if you’re going to encrypt data, you need to compress it before you encrypt it....19:39
charlvnyeah totally19:39
inetprohmm... "the compression battle has been waging for 15 years now, and it is still not over..."19:40
inetproclearly there's no single hard-and-fast answer19:43
nuvolarimy bed won the fight. I'm out19:44
nuvolarig'night everyone19:44
inetpronuvolari: heh19:44
inetprogood night19:44
charlvnnn nuvolari 19:47
charlvnciao all19:47
Mezenirim out too19:48
Mezenirgnite19:48
tumbleweedsuperfly: pong20:33
superflytumbleweed: running backportpackage was giving me issues, but I ran sbuild instead, and I came right20:35
superflyHowever, I'm getting an SSL verification error with "requestbackport" at the moment20:35
tumbleweedsuperfly: oh, ouch20:36
superflyNot sure how to get that fixed... maybe check all my packages are up-to-date20:36
tumbleweedsuperfly: stack trace?20:36
superflytumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/F1Z8feDk20:37
tumbleweed/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py <- there's your problem20:37
tumbleweedsee the /usr/local ?20:37
tumbleweedoh, local launchpadlib too20:38
superflyhrm, yes20:38
superflylemme see if I can fix that20:38
* tumbleweed suggests blowing all that stuff away and using packaged httplib2 + launchpadlib20:39
superflytumbleweed: I thought it was packaged, so definitely20:49
superflytumbleweed: I'm getting a "Source changed by <user@computer>" - is there a way I can set that to my actual credentials?21:02
superfly(I'm running "backportpackage -u ppa:<lp username>/<ppa name> -s quantal -d precise openlp" )21:03
tumbleweedis that a brand new backportpackage?21:03
superflytumbleweed: yeah, I haven't done any setup21:03
tumbleweedlet's assume it uses DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL like everything else21:04
* superfly tries again21:05
tumbleweeddon't worry too much about that, a backporter will do the real backport21:07
superflythey just have a list of things you've done that you need to check off, so I thought I'd try again with their proposed command.21:14
superflytumbleweed: but, it looks like your tip worked, thanks :-)21:15
superflytumbleweed: FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/100314321:38
* superfly goes to bed21:38
tumbleweedsuperfly: backported already, apparently22:10
tumbleweed00:17  * cjwatson eyes openlp and wonders if he can get the local primary school  to stop using Powerpoint for projecting hymns ...22:18
tumbleweed^ superfly has caught ubuntu archive admin's interest22:18

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