=== Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [05:56] good morning [06:02] tumbleweed: thanks! [06:02] Morning inetpro [06:02] * superfly is on the train currently [06:03] hmm... die trein na maatjiesfontein? [06:07] inetpro: nee, die trein na kaapstad [06:07] lol [06:07] pity it isn't bound for maatjiesfontein === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:45] Morning. [06:46] morning sakhi [11:03] hi superfly nuvolari inetpro and others [11:05] hi queery [11:06] hi oom Kilos [11:06] queery: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell queery get your LPI ID here https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/register or just google LPI ID and there are more sights for free books and exam info etc" 47 seconds ago [11:06] Maaz, google LPI ID [11:06] Kilos: "Register - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute ..." https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/register :: "Taking Exams | Linux Professional Institute (LPI)" http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/taking-exams :: "Verification Code - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux ..." https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/certification :: "Login - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute (LPI)" https://cs.lpi.org/ca [11:06] Maaz: botsnack [11:06] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [11:07] yo Superhuman [11:07] thank you oom Kilos [11:07] hehe [11:07] you are welcome [11:10] aweh Kilos [11:11] bbl [11:24] hurrrmmmm [11:32] hi all [12:25] * Kilos visa granted after 1 year and 6 days [12:29] to where? [12:29] australia to see my daughter [12:31] and her mom of course [12:40] wtfbbq are you serious [12:41] how the heck did that happen [12:41] oh he's gone already [15:32] superfly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openlp/1.9.9-1 [16:20] whoot! :D [16:22] Maaz: tell kilos baie geluk oom! dit is 'n groot klip uit die pad! [16:22] nuvolari: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [16:29] \o/ yay! Thanks tumbleweed! [17:11] tumbleweed: you mentioned "build chroots" or something like that for packaging... do you know of a good guide to setting one up? [17:13] * superfly sees plenty of options, but is not sure which is preferred [17:14] superfly: sbuild is the preferred choice. There's an mk-sbuild script in ubuntu-dev-tools that's pretty good [17:14] OK, cool, I'll check that out. Thanks! [18:02] hi superfly and others [18:02] Kilos: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "tell kilos baie geluk oom! dit is 'n groot klip uit die pad!" 1 hour, 40 minutes and 36 seconds ago [18:02] hiya Kilos [18:03] squirm did i say i would get you a link for something [18:03] hey kilos [18:03] hi Mezenir [18:03] hey superfly [18:04] yo Mezenir [18:04] * superfly is doing the happy dance today [18:04] indeed ? [18:05] superfly: another baby on the way? [18:06] hehe why superfly you hit the jackpot [18:06] lo highvoltage next fly due in october i think [18:07] oh wow, congrats superfly [18:07] highvoltage: yeah, that too, but that's not the reason for this happy dance :-) [18:07] Kilos: August, not October [18:08] oh sorry [18:08] highvoltage: thanks to tumbleweed, I have a package in Debian and in Ubuntu [18:08] superfly: ooh! congrats again! :D [18:08] ta :-D [18:08] well done superfly [18:08] sweet [18:09] superfly, now fix freenode so it doesnt use so much data [18:11] superfly: going to backport it to precise? [18:12] tumbleweed: yup, busy getting the sbuild stuff set up [18:12] cool [18:12] hi tumbleweed charlvn [18:12] hi Kilos [18:12] how's it going [18:12] good ty and you? [18:13] good good man [18:14] hey charl and tuble [18:14] tumble [18:15] hi Mezenir [18:18] pretty quiet tonight [18:18] yeah too cold to type lots [18:18] hehe [18:19] i finally got my email allowing me to order a raspberry pi [18:19] happiness [18:19] you fast typers must make a hellova draft [18:20] hehe [18:20] my flat is small [18:20] hard to get cold [18:20] lol [18:20] hi plustwo you been quiet lately [18:22] evening psydroid [18:31] bye! :) [18:32] hi bye smile [18:33] hi bye kilos :) [18:33] lol [18:33] are you coming or going? [18:33] your nick shows you grayed out here [18:34] going, sorry :p [18:34] will come back later :) [18:34] (tomorrow) [18:34] good night :) [18:34] cheers smile [18:34] Kilos: I like the good news! [18:34] i was holding him back [18:34] tell inetpro [18:34] when are you flying? [18:35] ha ha Banlam [18:35] @ubuntu-afr [18:35] #ubuntu-afr [18:35] aw it will take a while for the plane fare inetpro but at least its another step forward [18:36] cool [18:36] so what's the next step? [18:36] thats it [18:37] soon as i get a ticket i go [18:37] how much is a ticket? [18:37] they say the visa is valid for 2 years and i can go as often as i like for 3 months at a time [18:37] last i looked was about R15000 [18:37] Kilos is skipping the country? [18:38] hmm... only 3 months? [18:38] at a time [18:38] Kilos: eish! [18:38] that's strange [18:39] i got a visa once to go to bangladesh, it was only valid for 6 months but then i could enter and leave the country as much as i wanted to inside of that timeframe [18:39] charlvn, i applied for a tourist visa [18:39] i guess every country has a different policy regarding visas [18:39] ah i see, that might be different, i got a business visa [18:39] only time i ever needed a visa though so not sure what is "typical" anyway [18:40] tourist is for 3 months and once there you can apply to have it extended to 6 months [18:40] ah that's not so bad [18:40] so you planning a nice long visit? [18:40] never been to austral asia, looks like a very beautiful place to visit, although quite warm in the summertime [18:41] as long as i can yes charlvn . they have uncapped [18:41] Kilos: when are you getting married again? :-) [18:41] you mean internet? interesting, i heard the internet in the region isn't too good actually [18:42] most likely within the first month or so inetpro [18:42] tara can stream youtube all day so it cant be too bad [18:43] yikes! [18:43] the question is, at which quality, youtube supports 240p :) [18:43] wow [18:43] ? [18:43] so youre moving there ? [18:44] if you can stream 1080p uninterrupted then it's not bad [18:44] first going for a visit to meet my daughter [18:45] meet ? [18:45] then i can even try unity [18:45] yeah i have never met her [18:45] cool [18:45] we bust up and disappeared [18:46] Kilos: I seriously hope that you get the funds together asap and everything will just go perfect as planned [18:46] you must be excited [18:46] ty inetpro [18:46] yeah Mezenir i am [18:46] she is a singer of note [18:46] in my opinion, maybe im biased [18:47] that's perfectly fine if you're the dad :) [18:47] hehe [18:47] lol [18:47] i thought i was a singer of note [18:47] turns out i was biased :) [18:47] she has just got through the first 4 rounds of this years xfactor australia [18:48] nuvolari, has the link to it [18:48] i have lost so much trying to sort out all my stuff, dunno where to find anything anymore [18:49] Kilos: thre's a new posting with a video at https://twitter.com/#!/TaraLSOfficial/status/204928306825543680 [18:49] oh is that a new song inetpro [18:50] You Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman [18:50] i dont twitter or anything any more [18:50] is it good [18:50] pretty good I think [18:51] as goos as I will always love you? [18:51] good [18:54] that must be a home recording inetpro [18:55] Kilos: yep, looks like she was playing around [18:55] still pretty good though [18:56] ian was in an accident today . some twit hopped a stop street and side swiped him [18:57] eina, he ok? [18:57] i thought the audition last year of tara's was really good so hope she doesnt mess up this year [18:58] he has just come out of xrays and waiting for the report. hurt neck head and leg i gather [18:58] yikes! [18:58] lol... being a singer of note, or off note? [18:59] I'm off note in the shower [18:59] hi oom Kilos [18:59] g'evening Mezenir, charlvn, inetpro [18:59] hi nuvolari [18:59] ehlo nuvolari [18:59] hey nuvo [19:00] hi nuvolari [19:00] you still got the link for taras xfactor audition last year [19:00] so Banlam can see i got good genes [19:00] not denims either [19:02] what? [19:03] haha [19:03] hehe [19:04] Maaz: tara.link [19:04] nuvolari: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara [19:04] hmm. not sure if that's it [19:04] its not there anymore i think nuvolari [19:04] it is oom Kilos [19:05] oh i thought i took her out there so i dont interfere with her chances [19:05] Kilos: we only hid the site from search results [19:05] my site is there yes but i think she is out [19:05] I'm talking under correction now... [19:05] Kilos: I'm looking at the 2 videos... [19:06] might also be because you gave me access :P [19:06] wow are they still there? [19:06] so not sure if it's public [19:06] oh [19:07] cant member when last i was there === charlvn_ is now known as charvn === charvn is now known as charlvn [19:08] i have no idea what is happening [19:08] sy is weer deur tot by die boot camp nuvolari [19:08] my brat Banlam [19:08] one of your kids? [19:09] yeah [19:09] ok [19:09] the one im going to meet in aus [19:09] Kilos: if I google her name I get a video that has been seen 414,895 times [19:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl0 [19:09] whew [19:10] 1,994 likes, 29 dislikes [19:10] swhe has many fans but who knows what happens when the public votes for their favourites [19:10] lol 29 dislikes [19:10] what do they say why they dislike her [19:10] ha ha [19:12] Kilos: heh, I would just not worry about those if I was you [19:13] ? [19:13] inetpro, did you see the fly has 2 packages in debian and ubuntu [19:14] Kilos: heh, it's you who has been scarce on here [19:14] oh ya. i cant stay online [19:14] of course [19:15] freenode uses 200kB per hour [19:15] mxit under 100kB a day [19:15] Kilos: obviously you can't compare it like that [19:16] that much? probably the pings. but still, I thought it was less [19:16] i have to compare it to something [19:16] all depends on how many channels you open on freenode and whether peeps are chatty or not [19:17] i only open here nowadays [19:17] but even when no one is chatting freenode uses every 20 secs or so [19:17] Kilos: what port do you connect to? [19:18] Kilos: on freenode [19:18] oh my [19:18] 8001 [19:19] Kilos: do you specify to connect with SSL? [19:20] nope that block is unticked [19:20] ok [19:20] because if it was enabled then it was probably gonna use more [19:21] just the one that says use global user info is ticked [19:21] if you're worried about 200kB/hour [19:21] you have bigger issues [19:21] whew [19:21] although I could be wrong on that [19:21] such as ? Banlam [19:21] Banlam: he has no income [19:21] oh [19:21] hehe [19:22] :x oh [19:22] Banlam: Kilos is one very inspiring man if you ask me [19:22] ++ on that! [19:23] able to help people against all odds [19:23] :> oom Kilos is one of my heroes [19:23] :) [19:23] * Kilos blushes [19:24] when i get to aus i will be online all day again [19:24] when are you going there oom? [19:24] Banlam: when we first met Kilos he used to tell us how he lost half his brains on the farm [19:25] sodra ons die vlieg geld het nuvolari [19:25] my mom is still scared of flying over the water. My parents are going to Auz next month [19:25] can i get in her suitcase? [19:25] I guess if you go on a really quick-strict-diet [19:25] :P [19:26] ha ha ha [19:26] i go sleep now guys. have a good night [19:26] night all [19:26] ciao Kilos [19:26] ok oom Kilos [19:26] lekker slaap [19:26] Kilos: good night [19:26] jy ook dankie seun [19:26] good luck with Ian [19:26] night inetpro [19:27] ty very much will let you guys know tomorrow [19:30] charlvn: am I correct in assuming that a SSL enabled connection to freenode will use more bandwidth than without SSL? [19:31] I wonder how much of a difference it would make [19:32] i don't think it will make a huge difference [19:33] inetpro: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/548029/how-much-overhead-does-ssl-impose [19:35] very interesting, thanks [19:36] tumbleweed: ping [19:36] charlvn: I guess then that together with encryption they also use compression is some clever way? [19:39] another interesting read: http://www.belshe.com/2010/11/18/ssl-compression-and-you/ [19:39] The authors of SSL knew that if you’re going to encrypt data, you need to compress it before you encrypt it.... [19:39] yeah totally [19:40] hmm... "the compression battle has been waging for 15 years now, and it is still not over..." [19:43] clearly there's no single hard-and-fast answer [19:44] my bed won the fight. I'm out [19:44] g'night everyone [19:44] nuvolari: heh [19:44] good night [19:47] nn nuvolari [19:47] ciao all [19:48] im out too [19:48] gnite [20:33] superfly: pong [20:35] tumbleweed: running backportpackage was giving me issues, but I ran sbuild instead, and I came right [20:35] However, I'm getting an SSL verification error with "requestbackport" at the moment [20:36] superfly: oh, ouch [20:36] Not sure how to get that fixed... maybe check all my packages are up-to-date [20:36] superfly: stack trace? [20:37] tumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/F1Z8feDk [20:37] /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py <- there's your problem [20:37] see the /usr/local ? [20:38] oh, local launchpadlib too [20:38] hrm, yes [20:38] lemme see if I can fix that [20:39] * tumbleweed suggests blowing all that stuff away and using packaged httplib2 + launchpadlib [20:49] tumbleweed: I thought it was packaged, so definitely [21:02] tumbleweed: I'm getting a "Source changed by " - is there a way I can set that to my actual credentials? [21:03] (I'm running "backportpackage -u ppa:/ -s quantal -d precise openlp" ) [21:03] is that a brand new backportpackage? [21:03] tumbleweed: yeah, I haven't done any setup [21:04] let's assume it uses DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL like everything else [21:05] * superfly tries again [21:07] don't worry too much about that, a backporter will do the real backport [21:14] they just have a list of things you've done that you need to check off, so I thought I'd try again with their proposed command. [21:15] tumbleweed: but, it looks like your tip worked, thanks :-) [21:38] tumbleweed: FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/1003143 [21:38] * superfly goes to bed [22:10] superfly: backported already, apparently [22:18] 00:17 * cjwatson eyes openlp and wonders if he can get the local primary school to stop using Powerpoint for projecting hymns ... [22:18] ^ superfly has caught ubuntu archive admin's interest