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syedi wont get kicked out of the irc due to inactivity?00:00
Rob_s820Ztane: Would you like a list of the device types?00:00
OerHekssyed, no00:01
syedokay - thanks! : )00:01
GreekFreakescott, I'm doing chmod +x myfilename.exten and the permissions won't change from -rw---(etc)00:01
escottGreekFreak, its on an external media. what filesystem is this?00:01
zykotick9GreekFreak: if it's on fat/ntfs you can't apply posix permissions00:01
GreekFreakescott, zykotick9, thank you. it's ntfs. I'll move it to the ubuntu drive00:03
Rob_s820Does anyone else have a solution to unresponsive Wi-Fi? I can connect to my home network but nothing related to the Internet will load.00:03
nydelapport tends to freeze up on my system, anything i can do about this? it keeps having an error itself then trying to report that & so on00:04
ZtaneRob_s820: hmmm that is stranger00:04
Rob_s820Ztane: Is there any info you need that could help figure this out?00:05
escottRob_s820, can you ping your router?00:06
nydelcould use some help: cloud reader at read.amazoncom shows up blank - i guess that it is a java applet? i tried updating the open-source java runtime environment & the icedtea plugin. any help greatly appreciated00:06
Rob_s820escott: How would I do that?00:07
escottRob_s820, first figure out your ip with "ifconfig"00:07
escottRob_s820, look for inet addr00:08
Rob_s820escott: it is 192.168.1.10600:08
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escottRob_s820, so the router is probably 192.168.1.1. so "ping 192.168.1.1" and see what it says00:08
rebeok guys and how do I change name in the way that I changed hostname ?00:09
escottrebe, your username?00:09
zykotick9!hostname | rebe be careful!00:09
ubotturebe be careful!: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.00:09
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Rob_s820Escott: it says, "from 192.168.1.106 icmp_seq=# Destination Host Unreachable"00:10
escottRob_s820, was this a wireless or wired connection00:10
lewellynso, how does one troubleshoot ubuntu not doing anything that resembles "bringing an installer onscreen" when booting off the 12.04 desktop cd? http://www.twitvid.com/K6JGD is what i see on my monitor (from when POST ends till i stop recording at where it hangs)00:11
Rob_s820escott: Wireless. I am using a laptop.00:11
escottRob_s820, how about pasting us the output of "ifconfig" "iwconfig" and "route" at paste.ubuntu.com00:11
Rob_s820escott: I don't have access to anything besides my iPhone here..00:12
bandit5432is there a way to see if a package was built with a certain commit applied?00:12
VideoBearHello everyone, I'm trying to make some video calls with empathy on Precise, but I'm not able to do so. Sending and receiving webcam fails from both Jabber and MSN protocols. The persons I'm testing it with are on Pidgin on windows and Empathy on Ubuntu. Is it port related ? Thanks00:12
Rob_s820escott: Anything in specific I could tell you?00:12
temp12What do i have to type in the ./bashrc so that every time my computer boots up, it browses to a directory and executes python server.py? if i just put python ~/server/server.py, it doesnt find the files anymore because it executes from home directory and lookes for files in home directory00:12
GreekFreakescott, it didn't create the file for the echo. This is what I ran:  https://gist.github.com/276559400:13
KingBeastCan anyone explain to me why I keep hearing not to install the proprietary Nvidia drivers?00:13
escottGreekFreak, the script you execute should be a normal script. it shouldn't have cron directives like the 42 1 ...00:13
m1jjhi, is postfix secure on 10.04?00:14
OerHeksVideoBear, if you both use msn, it is a msn service problem.00:14
escottRob_s820, i would advise disabling any wpa while you debug, but thats going to be harder since you cannot connect to the router00:14
OerHeksKingBeast, who tells you that ?00:14
KingBeastI keep seeing it on a lot of 12.04 videos00:15
Rob_s820escott: So what would you suggest?00:15
escotttemp12, commands to be run once on boot should go in rc.local00:15
KingBeastOerHeks, ^^00:15
bandit5432KingBeast, dont listen and install any way00:15
escottRob_s820, make a wired connection?00:15
lewellynanyone? i'd think that there'd be a simple list of "try this if you can't get ubuntu to install" things, but even the release notes are pretty bare00:15
VideoBearOerHeks: Surprisingly, it doesn't work under Jabber either. I can't receive or send video or the option is grayed out00:16
OerHeksKingBeast, depends on what videocard, so state yours ?00:16
KingBeastOerHeks, 9400gt00:16
bandit5432lewellyn, how long did you let that screen continue?00:16
OerHeksKingBeast, no problem AFAIK00:16
lewellynbandit5432: it's been going since i recorded that video ;)00:17
bandit5432lewellyn, ew00:17
KingBeastOerHeks, ok thanks00:17
lewellynso over a half hour now.00:17
GreekFreakescott, I removed them and still nothing.00:17
lewellyna half hour is more than enough time for a blinky cursor to go away, i'd assume.00:17
bandit5432lewellyn, what hardware are you using?00:17
lewellynit's a D865PERL board with a 2.66 GHz P4, 3 GB RAM, and a fun assortment of PCI cards00:18
Rob_s820escott: Never mind. I can't do this right now.00:18
bandit5432lewellyn, try changing the boot options when you start the boot process see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options00:19
escottGreekFreak, what happens when you run that file directly?00:19
bandit5432i would try with acpi=off option first00:19
escottGreekFreak, also why would "theo" have write access to /log00:19
lewellynbandit5432: oh. that's what that symbol means. that's very unintuitive :/00:20
bandit5432lewellyn, i dont like it myself but after several years you get used to it00:20
GreekFreakescott, uhm.. it says 'command not found'00:20
lewellynbandit5432: i'm going to go spend some time fighting with it. i'll bbiab now that i know how to get to something usefulish.00:20
bandit5432lewellyn, all good have fun you might pull some of the pci catrds and see what happens00:21
escottGreekFreak, how are you trying to execute the script00:21
bandit5432turn off the boot splash while you are at it00:21
GreekFreakescott, I just typed the filename in the terminal00:22
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syedmy sound device configured wrong -- need help!00:22
escottGreekFreak, can you paste a terminal session. start with "ls -l /the/path/to/the/script" then "cat /the/path/to/the/script" then "pwd" and finally what you are doing to try and run it00:22
syedhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11956889#post1195688900:23
GreekFreakescott, gimme a sec00:23
syedgot a sony vaio VGN-AR31E00:23
syedsound device not working properly -- guessing the configuration is messed up00:23
lewellynbandit5432: yeah. next up is yanking everything but the video card. trying all the likely boot options left me at a cursor again and no activity from the cd-rom00:25
syedneed help with wrongly configured sound device -- loudspeaker not working -- but can hear sound through headphones when plugged in00:25
GreekFreakescott, https://gist.github.com/276566500:25
lewellynbandit5432: how do i turn off the boot splash btw?00:25
bandit5432lewellyn, let me look i never remember off the top of my head00:25
lewellynk. i'll start unscrewing cards in the mean time :)00:26
syedmy sound device configured wrong -- need help!00:26
escottGreekFreak, ~/Documents is not in your path. so you have to give a full path to the executable. a full path could be ./background_work.cron_jobs. this is still not going to work because "theo" wont be able to write to /log00:26
bandit5432lewellyn, have you tried booting with nomodeset ?00:27
bastidrazorlewellyn: in /etc/default/grub  remove "splash"  then save and do 'sudo update-grub'00:27
rebesry I'm back, so how do I change username ?00:27
bandit5432bastidrazor, from the livecd00:27
RealEyesi changed my login password and now my keyring is asking me what the hell?00:28
RealEyesbut i dont know my old password00:28
RealEyeshow to fix?00:28
escottRealEyes, delete your keyring and create a new one00:28
rebe!username00:29
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)00:29
Gyro54A quick question - How do I shutdown in Gnome 3. I only have a suspend button?00:29
GreekFreakescott, why won't 'theo' be able to write? I just ran it as './background_work.cron_jobs' and the error was 'No such file or directory'. Nothing about permissions00:29
bandit5432lewellyn, F6 at the Install/Memtest/Check CD for Defects screen. Then delete the “quiet” and “splash” from the boot command line and continue booting from the CD00:29
compdocGyro54, are you logged into the console?00:30
lewellynbandit5432: awseome thanks. i'll try that00:30
bandit5432lewellyn, no problem i wonder where its hanging00:30
lewellynyanking out all the pci cards didn't help.00:30
escottGreekFreak, logs are owned by root. "theo" is not root. so "theo" will not be able to write to the logs00:30
lewellynbandit5432: if i get something useful, i'll surely let you know :)00:30
RealEyesescott, how do i delete the keyring?00:30
Gyro54I can be but I thought I could shutdown from the GUI00:30
GreekFreakescott, 1. If I rename it to something else will it be ok? and 2. Can I not make the cron job run the file as root?00:31
TadekMocarzhi i have a question00:31
TadekMocarzanybody there00:32
escottGreekFreak, the cronjob will be run as root (provided it is in roots crontab) but in that case the script should be owned by root (its a security risk to allow a user like theo to own a script that root will execute)00:32
Gyro54compdoc: I only have a suspend option from the desktop and can't see how to change it to "shutdown"00:32
KingBeastlewellyn, is it a dell?00:33
escottRealEyes, probably ~/.gnome2/keyrings00:33
VideoBearAnyone knows why the audio/video call menu is grayed out in empathy on Jabber protocol ? Using Ubuntu 12.04. Thanks.00:33
GreekFreakescott, so all I need to do is add it to the /etc/crontab and run as root, right? and change the permissions of the script with sudo to be owned by root?00:33
RealEyesescott, login.keyrings or user.keystore or the whole folder?00:34
KingBeastVideoBear, do you have the plugin for video calls enabled?00:34
escottGreekFreak, it really should be (a) owned by root:root (b) placed in a root owned folder like /root/bin00:34
escottRealEyes, presumably the files will be enough. i dont know what the consequences of removing your keyring files will be, but if you dont have a password im not sure what other options you have00:35
RealEyeswell, i do have a password00:35
RealEyesit just doesnt match the keyring00:35
VideoBearKingBeast: I didn't figure empathy used plugins. Strange thing is, it's disabled for some contacts, not all, but always fails.00:36
afidegnumhello, how do I delete all files in a current folder except the "curentdir" folder ?00:36
TadekMocarzcan i haz a  question00:36
RealEyesif ubuntu gives me another critical error, im going back to arch00:36
lewellynKingBeast: no00:37
KingBeastVideoBear, sorry I'm thinking pidgin00:37
KingBeastlewellyn, ok I was just going to suggest checking the bios for the OS install mode00:38
lewellynbandit5432: removing quiet and splash wasn't useful. it still feels like it isn't actually attempting to load the kernel. i get the same behavior with "Check disc for defects". i'm booted into memtest successfully from the cd though.00:38
afidegnumsorry I didn't illustrated it properly, I have in the current folder, file1.txt, file2.ext folder1, folder1 "exceptionfolder"   I want to delete all except teh "exeptionfolder"00:38
VideoBearKingBeast: No problem. One contact I'm testing with use Pidgin on Windows though.00:38
GreekFreakescott, you're going a little ahead of me here. So I need to create the file using sudo (e.g. 'sudo gvim background_work.cron_jobs') and change it to an executable using sudo? And how do I move it to a root folder since I'm not allowed access to them, not even using 'sudo cd /root/'00:38
bandit5432lewellyn, did you check the iso checksum? or try booting the disk to live system in another box?00:39
bandit5432lewellyn, i have burnt some bad install disks before00:39
lewellynbandit5432: i let the disc verify after burning, so i suspect it's not totally bum.00:39
Gyro54How do you shutdown in Gnome 3 for the desktop? I only have a suspend button?00:39
TadekMocarzCAN I HAZ A QUESTION00:40
lewellyni'll try it in another box after i let memtest run a bit "just in case" ;)00:40
bandit5432lewellyn, so frustrating00:40
GreekFreakescott, $ sudo chown -R root:root background_work.cron_jobs  ?00:40
bandit5432TadekMocarz, ask dont ask to ask00:40
TadekMocarzOK00:40
lewellynbandit5432: yes. i expect that ubuntu's not compatible with my hardware somehow.00:40
GreekFreakescott, sorry, maybe not the -R00:40
escottGreekFreak, (a) never use sudo with gvim. gksudo. (b) I would think chowning is easier, and (c) you can sudo mv00:41
TadekMocarzi was always interested in this mystery:  when there are students, and they live 2-3 persons/per room,   HOW and WHEN do they masturbate? its serious question00:41
bandit5432kick him please00:41
TadekMocarz?00:41
bandit5432where is a op when you need one00:41
lewellynand doesn't ubuntu ship with sudoedit?00:41
TadekMocarzwhy kick me00:41
BaconAttack_hey guys, right now i'm sitting at my server prompt. i want to install gnome so i have a gui for other people to use when they need to remote in with vnc. should i just install gnome-shell ? or the ubuntu-desktop?00:41
BaconAttack_its mainly for file serving and hosting a minecraft server so i dont need anything extra in it00:42
TadekMocarzwill anybody answer my question, PLEAZE00:42
bohemian9485!info gnome-shell00:42
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 329 kB, installed size 901 kB00:42
bandit5432lewellyn, i dont know what sudo edit is00:42
TadekMocarzi was always interested in this mystery:  when there are students, and they live 2-3 persons/per room,   HOW and WHEN do they masturbate? its serious question00:43
bandit5432so sad no ops :C00:43
gohdanBaconAttack_: might want something more light and simple like 'twm'00:43
TadekMocarzWHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NIGGER AND THE BARREL OF SHIT00:43
bastidrazor!ops | TadekMocarz00:43
ubottuTadekMocarz: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler or Jordan_U!00:43
lewellynbandit5432: in source distributions of sudo (such as on other platforms), it creates a sudoedit wrapper that copies the file to $TEMP, launches an unprivileged editor, then copies the file back with the same permissions00:43
bandit5432elky, ty!00:44
lewellynbandit5432: it was my attempt to help whoever's trying to edit a root-owned file. :)00:44
zerovinmornin all :)00:44
BaconAttack_gohdan what is twm?00:45
gohdanBaconAttack_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/twm00:45
bandit5432lewellyn, i just sudo and then edit the file i want00:45
lewellynbandit5432: that's less secure than running an unprivileged editor :)00:45
BaconAttack_thanks00:46
GreekFreakescott, doing gksudo filename asked for a password and showed nothing. And why should I never sudo with gvim?00:46
gohdanthink it comes with a stock install of X00:46
escott!gksudo | GreekFreak00:46
ubottuGreekFreak: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)00:46
bastidrazorGreekFreak: gksudo gvim filename00:47
gohdanBaconAttack_: ^^ might want to verify on your own though00:47
engineglue1hey guys. Have you every heard of a server blocking an IP address after you do a tracert?00:47
escottbastidrazor, thanks was paying more attention to my dinner00:47
GreekFreakescott, bastidrazor, thanks00:47
* lewellyn is one of those old-school people who believes in "run with least possible privileges" and therefore prefers things like sudoedit over sudo $EDITOR ;)00:47
bandit5432lewellyn, there is no root user so its not really a big deal i would think00:48
zerovinvisudo00:48
rebeis there any shortcut to switch tabs in terminal ?00:48
lewellynzerovin: that's an alternate name, yes. thanks for confirming the ubuntu name :)00:48
dusktreadercan anyone help me with an install problem on an Acer notebook?00:48
quiescenssudoedit is unlikely to be any better unless you actually go to the effort of limiting which files can be editted00:48
escottbandit5432, there is a root user, its just not possible to login interactively from a login prompt00:48
spacetigerHi. I have a windows+ubuntu dual boot system, with one partition (Storage) shared. When I try to mount the partition on Ubuntu, I get an error - "ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." This problem has appeared only today.00:49
zerovinwelcome00:49
lewellynbandit5432: but your editor still has superuser rights and has things like your $HOME. this can cause lots of "fun" as collateral damage if you go and save new settings in your editor or something00:49
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bandit5432lewellyn, i know i do that all the time locked my self out of x this weekend because .Xauthority was owned by root all good fun00:49
gohdanrebe: if youre using gnome-terminal it is ctrl+pgup ctrl+pgdn00:50
JockerHi All00:50
lewellynbandit5432: all the more reason to try to avoid more privileges than absolutely needed ;)00:50
JockerInees cc Please00:50
bandit5432lewellyn, if i want really secure i just run windows 8.... joke :P00:50
lewellynbandit5432: don't ask for my uname from the box that's connected to my irssi ;)00:51
Jockerlol00:51
dusktreadercan anyone help with a problem booting to a fresh install on a notebook?00:51
dusktreaderi have a fun "operating system not found" error00:51
GreekFreakescott, this is the error it gives me if I run 'sudo /root/background_work.cron_jobs' :    /root/background_work.cron_jobs: line 3: /log/cron_log.log: No such file or directory00:51
rebegohdan: thanks, I also found out, that alt + *tab number* works00:51
lewellyndusktreader: do you have multiple disks?00:51
GreekFreak^ It's like it ignored the cd again00:51
dusktreaderyeah00:52
lewellyndusktreader: try setting the bios to boot off the other one ;)00:52
dusktreaderi have bios setup to install off of the hdd where i installed ubuntu00:52
escottGreekFreak, /var/log00:52
dusktreaderand i've tried explicitly selecting it from the f12 menu as well00:52
lewellyndusktreader: you're 120% sure that's where your grub is?00:52
dusktreaderyeah00:52
dusktreader/dev/sda00:53
lewellynthat's why i said boot off the other, to make sure things went as you expected :)00:53
dusktreaderwhich is my hdd00:53
dusktreaderwith ubuntu00:53
bohemian9485i'm wondering why the update manager did a kernel update to 3.2.0-24-generic-pae when my kernel is already that version? the update concerns about some cairo-dock plug-ins, does that have anything to do with the kernel update?00:53
lewellyngrr.00:53
spacetigerAnyone?00:53
dusktreaderit kept trying to boot from pxe, then I disabled network boot00:53
lewellyni have no spare machines i can put the burnt livecd into :/00:53
bandit5432lewellyn, virtualbox it00:53
gohdanrebe: awesome. thats much faster00:54
GreekFreakescott, there's nothing in there. Or are you implying that I should cd into there?00:54
naxil2_hello00:54
lewellynbandit5432: i accidentally clicked to update vmware, and it wants me to reboot first now. stupid junk :/00:54
naxil2_i need a simple help00:54
GreekFreakescott, by nothing, I mean nothing about cron00:54
gohdan!ask | naxil2_00:54
ubottunaxil2_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:54
naxil2_i want disconnect pp0 if the bandwith is less of 10kb/ for 10min (example) what i can do?00:54
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nickmarxQuestion: I'm trying to create a bootable ubuntu disk to be used for booting on a mac, and then formating the hard drive00:56
bandit5432reminds self never open .xsession-errors00:56
nickmarxthe usb stick is made correctly I believe but on restart it doesn't get recognized as a bootable option00:57
escottGreekFreak, there is no /log folder. you want /var/log00:57
bandit5432nickmarx, are you holding down the C key?00:57
nickmarxNo I've been doing option00:57
naxil2_is possible program the pp0 to disconnect if the bandwith is less of 10kb/s?00:57
nickmarxI have my harddrive partitioned and it shows the two sections but not the usb stick00:58
GreekFreakescott, but I cd'ed into a different location, where there is a log folder00:58
spacetigerNeed help! I get an error - "ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." when I try to mount a shared partition (shared by Windows and Ubuntu on my dual boot system). This problem has appeared only today.00:58
escottGreekFreak, you specified a full path /log/something. so it uses the full path00:58
GreekFreakescott, is it not relative?00:59
yakkocan anybody name a good salary rate for senior developer in London?00:59
escottGreekFreak, it starts with a slash00:59
GreekFreakescott, thanx00:59
bandit5432nickmarx, try holding down C00:59
bandit5432nickmarx, i assume its an intel mac if so see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT153301:00
bandit5432any one using monitor profiling with 12.04?01:00
nickmarxbandit5432, ahhhh thanks I'll be that will do it01:00
dusktreaderI installed 12.04 x64 on a new Acer Aspire with an AMD a6. Re organized partition on my main HDD to keep windows.  Selected the HDD as the location for the boot loader.  Installed.  At boot, after posting it just reports Operating System not found.  When I select HDD from the from th f12 boot menu, it works for a minute, and then goes back to the f12 menu.  I've tried reinstalling twice with the same results.  Does anyone have01:01
bandit5432nickmarx, hope it works01:01
escottdusktreader, new ?=? efi01:01
dusktreaderescott, what?01:02
escottdusktreader, is it an uefi system? did it have a efi partition when you were repartitioning01:03
dusktreader@escott, I don't know01:03
dusktreaderhow do I check?01:03
GreekFreakescott, thank you very much for your help. I owe you the preverbial beer01:05
escottdusktreader, what does sudo parted -l /dev/sda say?01:06
escottdusktreader, in particular the "Partition Table: ????" line01:06
dusktreaderone minute....01:06
dusktreaderbooting from live cd01:07
dusktreaderwhat should it say?01:07
escottdusktreader, if it says "gpt" and windows boots then it is an efi system01:07
dusktreaderoh, crap....got to go... =[01:07
dusktreaderthanks, I'll check that out later!01:07
naxil2_hello01:13
GreekFreakescott, why would I get permission denied, if I'm running something as sudo? (I'm still battling that script, but now I'm trying to run script/rails from it)01:15
casey9what is the paste shortcut in terminal01:15
escottGreekFreak, what are the permissions of the folder01:16
naxil2_Greekfreak u know some script for disconnect/shutdown pc > if bandwith < 10kb/sec?01:17
GreekFreaknaxil2_, sorry my man. no. You'll need to find something that can tell you what your bandwidth is at any time01:18
naxil2_yes i have found bmon01:19
naxil2_but i can't do the script iam noob01:19
GreekFreakescott, script folder is theo:theo with 'create & delete/None/None' and the script/rails file is the same01:20
escottnaxil2_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html01:20
naxil2_escott and after this? i want do a disconnect or shutdown with if to bandwith01:21
escottGreekFreak, honestly i would recommend reading the permissions documentation01:21
escott!permissions | GreekFreak01:21
ubottuGreekFreak: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions01:21
Prodigalany suggestions why BT5 is giving me a NAME_REGEX error in BT5 when i adduser?01:22
naxil2_yes escott i have bmon01:22
invisiblekhaving problems with openvpn. i can't get tun to work properly. seems there isn't a tun.ko anywhere...01:23
escottnaxil2_, while /bin/true; do bandwith=`bmon command`; if $( bandwidth -le VALUE ) then shutdown -h now; fi; sleep SOMETHING; done01:23
Fat-Thingis it safe to completely remove kde stuffs installed on my ubuntu 10.04? i found some that are installed using synaptic package manager01:23
escott!backtrack | Prodigal01:23
ubottuProdigal: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition01:23
Prodigalok thanks01:24
alusionbefore I install the amd proprietary drivers, any warnings or known bugs?01:25
GolfgeoHi all01:25
escottalusion, yes01:26
GolfgeoGot a silly question... NVIDIA proprietary drivers... which one to activate in 12.04... the01:26
alusionyes, so there are known issues..01:27
PolahGolfgeo, post-release updates.01:27
alusionI wanted to test 3d on my linux machine as i heard their newer drivers would support it01:27
escottalusion, there are known issues either way01:27
GolfgeoGot a silly question... NVIDIA proprietary drivers... which one to activate in 12.04... the "(version current)" or "post-release updates)(version current-updates)"?01:27
GolfgeoPolah: the post-release updates version is the newer one, right?01:28
szalGolfgeo: depends on your gfx card01:28
Golfgeosince it's not "recommended" i'm hesitant...01:28
alusionis it even worth having a 6850 in a linux box?01:28
alusionlol.01:28
L3topGolfgeo: nvidia-current-updates01:29
Golfgeocrapper, I hate selecting drivers for vid-cards, had to many negative experiances..01:29
alusion^ I feel your pain..01:30
Golfgeok, will try the nvidia-current-updates :-)01:30
L3topGolfgeo: the 295.40 driver has regression issues.01:30
Fat-Thinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1000084/ <-- escott this are the list of my installed apps, i dunno how i got so many wondering how i got it installed in my system but pls tell me which one is safe to remove01:30
GolfgeoThanks guy's! :-)01:30
L3topyw01:30
GolfgeoL3top: regression issues hmm, Don't like the sound of that haha01:30
Golfgeome is off and thanks! :-D01:31
ejoDarwinSurvivor: yesterday, when I thought CCSM and other tweak tools were failing to adjust my Launcher opacity... it was just that the launcher was black over black background, and Unity's launcher has a certain minimum opacity (i.e. maximum transparency) limit that interacted with that to make it appear as if no change was made.01:31
ejoSo, it works :P01:31
bandit5432nvidia 302.11 seem to be running ok01:32
DratonHey guys, quick question: Does anyone have any recommendation for a vnc server?  I've tried the one that ubuntu includes but it doesn't give me the option to tweak some of the more bandwidth-hogging items01:33
noobita69quit01:37
GG111where can I download the full DVD of Ubuntu 12.04 , not just the live CD ?01:38
naxil2_goodnight01:41
randomDudeI'm having alot of problems getting ldap authentication to work with 12.04, previously on 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 i was able to use zentyal-desktop to streamline the process of setting up ldap login on our workstations, however on 12.04 this zentyal-desktop does all the things it did before, no errrors.... but now lightdm login just shows the wallpaper or a black screen.01:41
rebewhy opening new tab in terminal creates those ugly thick edges ?01:42
Nach0zBecause it dislikes everyone01:43
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donnieDoes anyone in here use Linux on a Powerpc?01:47
donnieI have a Power Mac G5 which has Debian installed on it. I cannot install any updates.01:48
cipher__i need an equalizer (some ability to adjust bass), was wondering if anyone can help01:48
bazhangdonnie, #debian01:48
donnieTried that.01:48
donnieNobody answered.01:48
bazhangdonnie, it's not supported here, so dont ask01:48
halakarhey guise - need to make a DVD with Ubuntu - playable in a DVD player...best program?  I have a bunch of quicktime movies I want to slap on there.01:49
bazhanghalakar, devede perhaps, though not heard of using mov before. perhaps convert with ffmpeg or handbrake first01:49
halakarmay i do all of this through a GUI ?01:50
bazhanghalakar, handbrake has a gui01:50
cipher__i'm installing realtek drivers for alsa atm01:50
halakarneat.  I come from the land of KDE - there was something called K9Copy or perhaps avidemux ?01:50
donnieI suppose that's an easy way of saying "I don't know" I will deal with it. Thanks for being SO POLITE.01:50
bandit5432donnie i have used it whats the questoin you have?01:51
bazhangdonnie, no, this is ubuntu only support, NOT debian. they have a channel for support :   #debian01:51
bazhangbandit5432, feel free to take this to #debian01:51
cipher__good idea, i'll ask #debian01:52
bandit5432bazhang, he didnt ask a question yet maye he wants to switch to ubuntu01:52
spacetigerNeed help! I get an error - "ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." when I try to mount a shared partition (shared by Windows and Ubuntu on my dual boot system).01:52
bazhangbandit5432, he did. please take it to #debian if you wish to support him01:52
donnieWell, I'm using Debian so.....01:53
donnieOn a Power Mac G501:53
bandit5432sorry donnit i sent you pm01:53
bazhang!ot | donnie01:53
ubottudonnie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:53
bandit5432its not polite to talk about linux here only ubuntu01:53
donnieI use Ubuntu as well.01:54
bandit5432:C01:54
cipher__so i installed realtek audio drivers and atm have no sound01:55
bandit5432i forgot why i stopped hanging out here i remember now01:55
cipher__which are the drivers my system uses on windows01:55
cipher__for example, alsamixer when opened throws this error: 'cannot open mixer: no such device"01:56
halakarbazhang, I cannot locate a package called Handbrake in the software center.01:57
noahnoahQuestion about VNC Servers:   I just installed 12.04, and want to host a VNC server on it for remote connections (Either from my local network, or possibly over SSH.)  What is the "best" vnc server software package?  Suggestions?01:57
szal!info handbrake01:57
ubottuPackage handbrake does not exist in precise01:57
bazhang!handbrake | halakar there is also a PPA01:57
ubottuhalakar there is also a PPA: handbrake is a an open-source, GPL-licensed, multiplatform, multithreaded video transcoder, available for MacOS X, Linux and Windows. - http://handbrake.fr01:57
EtaleNobody is answering my question in the Windows chatroom, so I figured I'd ask here since my question is about a dual boot system.01:58
EtaleOkay, I was here a few hours ago, but here's the quick version. I just got a Lenovo thinkpad that came with their version of Windows 7. There a Windows partition, a recovery partition, and a system_drv partition (whatever that means). I want to first install the official windows7 (instead of the Lenovo version), and then shrink Windows' partition to 100GB, and create an ext4 partition for Ubuntu, and an NTFS partition for storage (~300GB).01:58
EtaleWould I have to get the recovery partition into a DVD? Or is it okay to start installing the official version without creating a recovery DVD?01:59
bazhangEtale, boot from livecd, or with gparted livecd, as for windows issues try in ##windows01:59
cipher__i suppose no-one can help me with my lack of sound?02:00
EtaleIn ##windows nobody is answering...02:00
bazhangEtale, then wait a moment, its been just a couple of minutes since you asked, and this is NOT windows support02:00
Etalecipher__, what do you see in alsamixer?02:00
OccupyDemonoidHello, what would be the easiest to share files between two computers in a network? Setting up an FTP server or Samba server?02:00
szalEtale: the recovery partition would restore the machine to the custom Dell version anyway, so you decide what you do there.. and getting no answer in the right place is no excuse for going off-topic elsewhere02:00
cipher__Etale, alsamixer cannot open, 'no such device'02:01
OerHeksEtale, all pre-installed windows pc's have asked me to create a recovery dvd, do that first02:01
Etaleszal, it's about a dual boot system. So I figured it's okay for both.02:01
cipher__Etale, installed (tried to) realtek hd audio drivers02:01
szalEtale: other than that, why not pre-partition? way easier than shrinking a non-empty partition02:02
Etaleszal, what do you mean?02:02
szalEtale: wipe the disk, either all of it or sans the recovery partition, then create a partition layout to your liking & use that to install your OSes on02:03
EtaleBy wipe out do you mean format, szal?02:04
szalEtale: delete & create new02:04
bazhangEtale, as I said, using the livecd or the gparted live cd from the very first02:04
szalformatting alone doesn't change the partition layout02:04
OccupyDemonoidWhat is the easiest way to share files over a network?02:04
cipher__can anyone help me with re-achieving sound02:05
GushingsI'm trying to build a high end computer, and it must run ubuntu.02:05
Etalebazhang, part of the issue is that I want to reinstall windows to get rid of the Lenovo stuff...02:05
GushingsHow can I figure out if particular components will be compatible?02:05
OccupyDemonoidcipher__, have you tried Alsa?02:05
szal!hcl | Gushings02:05
ubottuGushings: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection02:05
bazhangEtale, and what I said will accomplish that02:05
GushingsThank you.02:05
cipher__I installed realtek audio drivers for alsa, it apparently did not work, and i have no 'sound devices'02:06
HaPK_PerCarhey, I have a couple of questions regarding sound. 1) how do I do a recording of my desktop and all that's passing trough my soundcard at the same time? 2) How do I hear what's comming from the Line In?02:06
EtaleYou mean a windows livecd?02:07
Etale(bazhang)02:07
bazhangEtale, of course no, an ubuntu livecd02:07
EtaleHow would an ubuntu livecd help me accomplish a reinstallation of Windows as well? I figured I should reinstall Windows first because otherwise it would nuke the boot.02:08
bazhangEtale, it has gparted on it, thats how02:08
GushingsHm02:09
Etalebazhang, walk me through it. I install Ubuntu, use gparted to partition, and then install the official version of Windows? Wouldn't that destroy the boot?02:09
bazhangEtale, no. you partition first using gparted, install windows, then finally install Ubuntu.02:10
EtaleOh, gotcha.02:10
EtaleAnd I use the partitioning from the gparted which I will get from the Ubuntu livecd.02:10
bazhangEtale, or from a gparted livecd02:11
opakavicguys i recently upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, and now after restart system hangs up02:11
randomDudelvm home recipe on a machine with only 2gb of ram always sets the machine up to fail (it will freeze)02:11
EtaleRight!02:11
opakavic?02:11
opakavici need my system back with datas02:11
bazhangopakavic, install from backups02:12
opakavicbazhang: if install a new one on the same place, my data wouldn't lost right?02:12
opakavici mean the new one is 12.0402:13
bazhangopakavic, sure it would. did you create a separate home partition?02:13
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opakavicbazhang: no :(02:13
opakavichome has so many wanted files :(02:13
opakavicany help , please do02:13
opakavicbazhang: there is no separate home partition02:15
bazhangopakavic, in future it would be a good idea to have one. for now, just install all the backups of the important data you had02:17
robertzaccourWhat can I use in Ubuntu to make 3D video graphics? Preferably something easy to learn.02:17
opakavicbazhang: see the worst part is, i did a blind upgrade with a single backup !02:18
peterltest02:18
opakavicbazhang: see the worst part is, i did a blind upgrade without a single backup !02:18
bazhangopakavic, well then learn to backup important data; if you do not back it up, that can happen02:18
opakavicyes!02:19
opakavicwhat if i now do a new installation on the same place !, my home folder ?02:19
Star2012<trophies> who is in ##Hardware  needs a ban !02:20
lnghi! how to list current video driver?02:20
Star2012done !02:22
SmashcatHi - can anyone tell me how to get 12.04 to boot in text mode only? Seems to ignore the inittab02:22
peterlopakavic: if you did an upgrade, then even if the os is corrupt, your files are still there, just put the hard drive into another machine02:22
peterlor did i miss an important part of this conversation?02:23
robertzaccourWhat can I use in Ubuntu to make 3D video graphics? Preferably something easy to learn.02:23
bazhang!nox | Smashcat02:24
ubottuSmashcat: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode02:24
peterlrobertzaccour: Blender02:24
Smashcatbazhang: thanks02:24
ozzloyhttp://pastebin.com/ZKXW2TQC how do i fix this?02:24
robertzaccourpeterl, I'm looking for something easy to use. Took 1 look at blender and got intimidated tbh haha02:25
opakavicbazhang, are you there02:26
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Smashcatbazhang: That will only start in text mode for that boot though right? I wish to start in text mode automatically every time. I don't need X at all on this02:26
PlaytimeHey guys, I hope this is the place to ask, but I can't install Ububtu, using Wubi, when expanding files, it spews fourth an error. Upon installing via  burnt ISO it simply locks up during installation.  What might be possible fixes?02:26
bazhangSmashcat, you wish to never have an xserver?02:26
Smashcatbazhang: yes02:26
peterlrobertzaccour: i've never personally found an easy way to do 3d video, or at least to do it well, any easier package i have seen is highly restrictive, i understand your reservations though02:27
Smashcatbazhang: This machine is going to run headless, so there's no point in running X at boot02:28
randomDudethe lvm expert_recipie section of this page doesn't work : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/preseed-contents.html02:28
randomDudeusing it results in a red screen during debian-installer preseed02:28
ubuntu_lombokhelp me..!! compiz can't run in my ubuntu 12.0402:28
robertzaccourpeterl, whats the name of the easier one you're thinking of?02:29
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bobbyHey I just installed 12.04 lts and I still have 11.10 installed but there is data in 11.10  that i want to bring into 12.04  What is an easy way to do this? My data is in pictures in documents and a few other random places02:29
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Smashcatbazhang: I'm going to modify grub - hopefully that'll do it!... rebooting...02:30
PlaytimeAnyone?02:31
Donnie_Darko21hello can anyone tell me software for converting doc to odt02:32
szalDonnie_Darko21: LibreOffice?02:32
peterlrobertzaccour: come to think of it, they were windows platform anyway, though from a quick search around, some people suggest moonlight 3d, i can't vouch for it myself, but i can suggest you have a look, from what i've skipped through it seems to be a less bewildering version of blender02:32
grant_exit02:33
szalPlaytime: don't use Wubi, free some space on your HDD & do a real install02:33
PlaytimeIt locks up when installing via ISO02:33
robertzaccourthanks02:34
robertzaccouris moonlight 3d in the repos?02:34
SarazarPlaytime: Try VirtualBox and test it in a Virtual Instance.02:34
Donnie_Darko21damn i delete libre and istall open because of lack power ram etc  i need simple converter szal02:34
Jorschhey, need a little help here.....trying to do an apt-get update and it is stuck on updating likewise-open: /usr/sbin/lwsmd --start-as-daemon returned 1....02:35
PlaytimeTrying it now.02:35
lnghow to list current video driver?02:36
szalPlaytime: (1) make sure you got no download errors by verifying checksums; (2) make sure you got no burning errors by verifying after burning; (3) make sure the disk is not compromised in any way by running the self-test options after booting from the CD ("Check for errors" or something to that sense)02:36
zykotick9lng: if you have an idea what to look for you could try xorg log files or sure-fire "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and "Kernel driver in use:" line02:37
lngzykotick9: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Caicos [Radeon HD 6450]02:37
Donnie_Darko21libreoffice is just better in look openoffice is more productive i used last time online converter and imports 100 percent before that i used to open with openoffice writer but dont loads 100 percent it loads 99 the jpg or the pic was not loaded02:37
zykotick9lng: ati=i'm out.  good luck.02:38
lngzykotick9: k tnx02:38
Donnie_Darko21anyone know software : converter doc to odt02:39
Donnie_Darko21cant find02:39
zykotick9Donnie_Darko21: that's not an easy conversion.  especially if docx.  libreoffice would be my suggestion02:43
Frankye1hey guys i got this hacker is really ridicolous, i think it is a policeman or something like that, this retard put something into my hardware and he wanna stop me to learn computers and do friends on internet couse i cant remove it... this guy is totally retard and i cant remove him from my computer anyone want help me?02:44
Jordan_UDonnie_Darko21: Why can't you use Libre Office?02:45
Frankye1he told me he want destroy me, and he is able to stop my internet working etc couse he can trace me via this thing into hardware, a retard who got a very dangerous tool and he use this shit to have power, a fukin retard02:46
bazhangFrankye1, ##hardware02:46
bazhangFrankye1, not an ubuntu issue, and stop cursing02:46
Donnie_Darko21i get mad becuase i imported some easy files and libre wrriter get crush and i installed openoffice02:46
Dios|When you dual boot Ubuntu, are you supposed to be able to automatically access files from Windows?02:47
krababbelDios|: I think, it puts the other partitions under /media, yes02:48
zykotick9Dios|: Windows->Ubuntu or Ubuntu->Windows?  ubuntu should be able to mount your windows partitions, but windows can't mount ubuntu's partitions02:48
Dios|Uhhh, not entirely sure what you mean, zykotick902:49
Dios|But02:49
Dios|I had Windows installed first02:49
Dios|Then Ubuntu02:49
Dios|If that's what you mean02:49
zykotick9Dios|: ;) i'm not sure what you mean02:49
Dios|Basically02:50
Dios|Few weeks ago02:50
Dios|I installed Ubuntu02:50
Dios|Using a windows installer02:50
bazhangDios|, stop with th e enter key02:50
zykotick9!enter | Dios|02:50
ubottuDios|: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:50
Dios|Called Wubi I think02:50
Dios|kk02:50
zykotick9Wubi02:50
Nk26Hello is there anyway to rollback an update I did on a package? or how can i force an install if i redownloaded the correct .deb02:51
Dios|So I used Wubi I guess to dual boot Ubuntu. I am completely new to Ubuntu, so I am bad at navigating it and I haven't used it in a long time. I couldn't access any music, pictures, documents, etc. Is that normal?02:51
Nk26I'm getting a "is not co-installable with" error when i try and use dpkg02:52
Donnie_Darko21maybe fresh libreoffice install will be more better02:52
table9Everything else being equal, would it be worth $120 to exchange a laptop with 15.6" 720p (1366 x 768) screen and a 2nd gen Intel Core i5-2450M (2.50GHz 3MB L3 Cache - 2 Cores plus Hyperthreading) processor  for one with 15.6" 1080p (1920 x 1080) screen and a 3rd gen Intel Core i7-3610QM (2.30GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading) processor? Both systems are going to run Ubuntu.02:52
zykotick9Nk26: FYI in any Deb based system, downgrading is an unsupported (DO AT YOUR OWN RISK) sorta thing.  the scripts that update config and other files are all one way... just saying "be careful"02:53
bazhangtable9, ##hardware , or #ubuntu-offtopic02:53
table9Thanks.02:53
Nk26I just updated to a borked verion of mediainfo and im trying to get the non borked version lol02:53
bazhangDios|, wubi is not a true dual boot02:53
bazhangNk26, installed from where.02:53
Dios|Yeah, I tried to do it the "real" way, but it was giving me weird problems02:54
Nk26I forgot to remove the repo, so it updated from the repo. I just redownloaded the old version02:54
bazhangNk26, what repo, from where02:54
Nk26bazhang ppa:shiki/mediainfo02:55
bazhangNk26, contact the PPA maintainer02:55
bazhangNk26, in the mean time use ppa-purge to get rid of that ppa02:56
bazhang!ppa-purge | Nk2602:56
ubottuNk26: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html02:56
Nk26ok thanks02:57
c_smithdoes anyone here know the environment variable to use Wine without ALSA?02:59
c_smith*without Pulse, my bad02:59
bazhangc_smith, try in #winehq02:59
c_smithbazhang, already there, the place is dead. :(02:59
naryfahi03:01
vicatcuwilee-nilee: are you around?03:02
mombo00how could I see the copy speed (MB/s) for a transfert using cp?03:02
robertzaccourI'm trying to figure how to run an iso in virtualbox without having to burn it to a disc03:03
vicatcumy ubuntu installation is in a partial upgrade (from 11.10 to 12.04), can anyone help me repair it?03:03
robertzaccourvicatcu, update and upgrade? that or install fresh03:03
vicatcurobertzaccour: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000164/03:05
naryfaweird03:06
PlaytimeOkay, I just burnt another ISO onto my disc and tried once again.03:06
zykotick9mombo00: you could install iotop for a cli view of your drive i/o (requires sudo to run).  i use the very old-school gkrellm for an xorg meter with all my drives' throughputs.03:06
naryfavicatcu: did you try via synaptic?03:06
vicatcunaryfa: I guess I don't know how to do that03:06
PlaytimeGot into the trial/install options.  Selected trial, it ran perfectly, hit install, chose inside windows 7, it said remove installation media and hit enter.  Doing so just booted up windows and ran wubi, wubi will always give me an error durnig expanding.03:07
vicatcunaryfa: what is synaptic?03:08
mombo00zykotick9: k, I was more looking at a simple cli tool like time but for speed03:08
PlaytimeIt's a trackpad driver, if I'm not mistaken.03:08
zykotick9mombo00: i'm not aware of any.  i'd be interested though ;)03:08
naryfavicatcu: it's a very good package manager03:09
naryfavicatcu: sudo apt-get install synaptic03:09
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* zykotick9 thinks apt-get and apt-cache makes a really great package manager ;)03:09
vicatcunaryfa: ok installing03:10
PlaytimeThis is going to be my 19th time getting this same error now, and it's really starting to piss me off.03:10
naryfazykotick9: I'm glad it works for you03:11
zykotick9naryfa: works for you too ;) you installed synaptic with it03:11
vicatcunaryfa: ok it's installed and i just did a reload...03:11
jiltdilhow to  change the directory using inode value ?03:11
vicatcunaryfa: so how does this make things better :)03:12
zykotick9jiltdil: i don't think that makes much sense.  directories are stored in inodes (or some other filesystem metadata)03:12
naryfavicatcu: you should have a filter on the left saying "upgradable" or something like that03:12
zykotick9jiltdil: inodes for files i could see03:12
vicatcunaryfa: yup found it03:13
mombo00zykotick9: seems like pv -p might work, haven't understood a way to connect it to cp tho03:13
naryfavicatcu: also see if you have a filter called "broken" or something like that, I'm not on Ubuntu so I don't remember exactly the names03:13
uwhi!03:13
uwdata throughput question:03:14
uwugh from computer to computer, I can only get about 40MB/s for a file transfer using SCP.  can someone verify this is reasonable?  iperf tops out at 110-115MB/s.  I have people keep telling me it's all encryption overhead.03:14
robertzaccourdoes VirtualBox use the allocated RAM when its not running?03:14
zykotick9mombo00: is pv a command?03:14
vicatcunaryfa: nothing shows up under broken03:14
uwrobertzaccour, i believe it does reserve it yes03:14
naryfavicatcu: try to mark all upgradable and see if it will take them03:14
uwmeaning you cant use it while it is allocated to a running guest OS03:14
robertzaccouruw, you mean that I'm not running full system specs when VB is closed?03:15
uwif the vms are ON, you are not running full system spec03:15
mombo00zykotick9: yea I'm still trying to figure out the manual03:15
uwif the VMs are off, you should have all of the RAM installed available to the host system03:15
robertzaccouruw, what about after its turned off?03:15
vicatcunaryfa: Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade.... libjpeg62-dev:03:16
robertzaccouruw, oh ok thanks. Just wanted to make sure I could have it all when VB is closed03:16
uwcheck #vbox for more accurate info03:16
robertzaccourthanks03:16
PlaytimeFuck it, I give up.  I can't get Ubuntu.03:16
naryfavicatcu: is that the exact line? or did you truncate it?03:16
uwrobertzaccour, no prob03:16
zykotick9mombo00: ahhh "pv - Shell pipeline element to meter data passing through" interesting.03:16
krababbelrobertzaccour: I've never seen the vbox process use all the memory it can have03:16
naryfaPlaytime: don't give up, ever03:16
uwPlaytime, its not for everybody03:17
vicatcunaryfa, actually i just clicked the Mark All Upgrades button just now and I got a subset of entries highlighted, so just click Apply?03:17
PlaytimeI've seen the same error 20 times in a row now, regardless of what is done.  Assistance is unheard of.  I'm done.03:17
naryfavicatcu: try03:17
naryfaPlaytime: what error is that03:18
uwPlaytime, you mean "free Assistance" is unheard of03:18
saryPlaytime: what stopping you to make a native installation for a dual boot system!03:18
vicatcunaryfa: ok it's going... exciting...03:18
* vicatcu is easily amused03:18
uwpeople have lives too you know.  sorry people cant drop everything to fix your problem.03:18
Playtimehttp://puu.sh/w4HQ03:18
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Guest99413how to  change the directory using inode value ?03:19
naryfauw: don't be so hard03:19
PlaytimeIt's not only here, I've been many places. This is my fourth month of trying this.03:19
Brustofskitrying to use testdisk.. all i can find is how to recover lost partition table... need to recover file... formated the wrong drive03:19
saryWubi is a truoblesome when it comes to installation , update/upgrade.03:19
naryfaPlaytime: do you only try wubi installer?03:19
uwPlaytime, is that a windows window there?03:19
uwwhat are you trying to do?03:19
naryfaPlaytime: I would highly recommend putting the ISO on a USB stick,03:19
zykotick9Brustofski: for files use photorec (it's part of testdisk) - it does more then photos ;)03:19
gbcWubi??03:19
vicatcusary: why does one choose Wubi over dual boot03:19
wifioregonHi. On 10.04 what is the best way to add music to an IPOD touch?  I tried dragging and dropping music with rhythymbox but its not working. :-(03:20
PlaytimeI burnt the ISO onto a disc03:20
PlaytimeBoot from CD drive03:20
PlaytimeInstall from there03:20
PlaytimeIt then boots up windows03:20
Playtimeand runs Wubi03:20
gbc I had better luck with wubi than with a regular install.03:20
bazhangPlaytime, stop with the enter key03:20
saryvicatcu: i don't know ,thats way i was asking Playtime03:20
naryfaPlaytime: you have to run your computer from the CD itself03:20
Brustofskizykotick9, do i gota install it.. or just put in a command03:20
SmashcatIs there something I need to install to allow Ubuntu 12.04 to see a 3TB disk?03:20
PlaytimeI did.03:20
zykotick9Brustofski: if you have testdisk it's probably there03:21
sarygbc: then look out for the truoblesome when updaing/upgrading your ubuntu box.03:21
naryfaPlaytime: if you did, it would've booted to LIVE Ubuntu image, not Windows03:21
gbc but somehow I hosed it all up in the booting functions now I have a 20GB "disk" in the windows Dir I cant get into.03:21
uwPlaytime, do you have grub installed?  what is your disk partition set up like?03:21
Smashcat(disk was working fine in 11.04, but in 12.04 it can't access it.03:21
gbcAnybody know how to deal with that ?03:21
Dios|How do you delete a Wubi dual boot?03:21
naryfavicatcu: how did it go?03:21
Logan_Dios|: Uninstall Ubuntu in Windows.03:22
Playtimeuw: http://puu.sh/w5jX03:22
vicatcunaryfa, it's still going :)03:22
gbcno kidding!!03:22
lewellynis the "alternate" cd the same as the "text" cd?03:22
vicatcunaryfa: currently Installing and removing software03:22
zykotick9lewellyn: yes03:22
Dios|Is it just like uninstalling a normal program from Control Panel?03:22
jiltdilhow to  change the directory using inode value ?03:22
lewellynok. that's not immediately clear on the download page :/03:22
* lewellyn grabs it in hopes that it will load the kernel :(03:22
gbcmy 100GB regular ubunto 11.04 install is hosed up now too. cannot upgrade or update at all.03:23
naryfaPlaytime: I would do this, if one of these drives is actually an entire drive, put a Linux on it.03:23
zykotick9!alternate | lewellyn03:23
ubottulewellyn: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal03:23
gbcsays it has a list hosed up in var somewhere.03:23
vicatcunarfya: ok it crashed: "Changes applied. Not all changes and updates succeeded. For further details of the failure please expand the 'Details panel below.03:23
lewellynzykotick9: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso ;)03:23
naryfavicatcu: expand it and give me the results03:23
gbcused the same install CD for both installs.03:24
vicatcunaryfa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000176/03:24
wifioregonHow do you sync an iphone/ipod with ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04?03:24
wifioregonCuz banshee and rhythymbox are giving me issues with my iphone03:24
saryPlaytime: is there anything interesting in the log file03:24
Brustofskizykotick9, Thanks03:25
SmashcatOh crap, seems that 12.04 can't see large disks properly. Have to reinstall 11.04. doh!03:25
zykotick9Brustofski: glad to help03:25
jiltdilAny one have my question answer?03:25
saryjiltdil: please ask again :)03:26
ZeloZelosjiltdil, please repeat the question03:26
jiltdilhow to  change the directory using inode value ?03:26
saryPlaytime: so have you tried the naive installation before ..03:26
uwPlaytime, D: yikes what kind of set up do you have going there?  Are all those drives?03:26
sary*native.03:26
PlaytimeTwo are drives, the rest are split from C:03:27
Brustofskizykotick9, was in mint 13 RC went to to ubuntu 12.04 on usb stick.. made a misteak and formated my usb drive!!03:27
PlaytimeYes, I have, sary03:27
saryPlaytime: nice , how was the experiance ..03:27
eduardo1981Hi there, I need some help in an specific topic, I'm using ubuntu 9.10 and I'm quite comfortable everything was stable on my P4 but, not I can't get updates or install anything else in my distro. There is a way to solve this issue...03:27
eduardo1981?03:27
zykotick9Brustofski: photorec saved me once ;)  i was sure happy it existed03:27
PlaytimeA whole lot of nothing.03:28
bazhang!eolupgrades | eduardo198103:28
ubottueduardo1981: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades03:28
saryeduardo1981: P4 !03:28
uwPlaytime: do you remember how you configured grub?  also, how are these partitions managed?  you may be better off live booting and installing that way03:28
szaleduardo1981: yes, the solution is upgrading to a still-supported version03:28
naryfavicatcu: damn, weird03:29
saryeduardo1981: do exactl what bazhang point you to .03:29
bazhangeduardo1981, upgrade to a supported version see the link above03:29
eduardo1981thanks @ubottu, yes @sary I'm using a Pentium 4 at home03:29
bazhangeduardo1981, ubottu is a bot03:29
saryeduardo1981: ah , gotchya03:29
vicatcunaryfa: hm... right... :)03:29
PlaytimeI do not, it's been a long time since I touched it.  As for my drives there, I shrunk C: and made a new partitions from that I shrink/expand them as I need, Z: is another physical drive.03:30
Brustofskizykotick9, Looks like its doing pretty good so far... i see 3 folders with alot in it... drive had a lot of junk on it... Thats easy to get back... But it had all my desktop backgrounds that took alot of time geting themes.. video's from youtube downloader and from minitube... and 3 gig worth of photo edits03:31
eduardo1981@szal - Question but can I use a P4 2.66 mghz with newer versions03:31
eduardo1981?03:31
eduardo1981I just have 512 MB03:31
zykotick9Brustofski: i hope you aren't expecting filenames (cause you probably won't get any)03:31
eduardo1981I've to say that 9.10 works fast in this old machine03:32
bazhangeduardo1981, probably Lubuntu is better for you03:32
bazhang!lubuntu | eduardo198103:32
ubottueduardo1981: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.03:32
saryPlaytime: what you mean ' a whole lot of nothing ' , what i meant is did get into any sort of truoble.03:32
krababbeleduardo1981: gnome alone wants to use about 500MB RAM often03:32
bazhangeduardo1981, so upgrade to a supported version, add lubuntu-desktop package, then choose lxde from the login window03:33
PlaytimeIt just simply does nothing.03:33
Brustofskizykotick9, not worried about that... as long as i can tell my saved mozila folder...03:33
Playtime"Installing..." and the window is blank and it freezes.03:33
saryPlaytime: you mean the live-cd while trying a native installation .!03:33
zykotick9Brustofski: ummm, well - if i remember correctly, you just get a list of files with the selected extensions...03:33
Brustofskizykotick9, not even putting them in there folders...03:34
eduardo1981@bazhang - Can I convert an ubuntu in lubuntu ?03:34
zykotick9Brustofski: i doubt it - filenames and folders are gone, only the raw files on the disk are left03:34
bazhangeduardo1981, yes.03:34
bazhang!purelxde | eduardo198103:34
ubottueduardo1981: If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »03:34
PlaytimeMmm.. I'm no longer sure I follow you, sary. Sorry.03:34
Brustofskii guess i lost all my saved bookmarks and passwords03:34
uwPlaytime, when you put the cd in and start the system, it should look completely different, not boot up into windows03:35
saryPlaytime: are you able to install ubuntu from the live-cd .03:35
uwcheck your BIOS or EFI to make sure that cdrom is first on the boot list03:36
eduardo1981Mm... I see that in the page says: "Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise). If you're using 11.10 go here. If you're using 11.04, go here. " And I'm still with ubuntu 9.1003:36
naryfavicatcu: I don't know where to point now03:36
PlaytimeWhat happens is, it brings me to trial or install, clicking trial does exactly that, clicking install (depending on from there or in-trial) will either ask me to remove disc and hit enter (it then boots windows and runs wubi) or it opens an window marked "Installing..." that is completely blank and frozen, while the rest of the UI continues to operate.03:37
bazhangeduardo1981, so upgrade to a supported version is the First STep03:37
bazhangeduardo1981, from the eolupgrades Link I sent you at the very start03:37
vicatcunaryfa: running it again...03:38
naryfavicatcu: try to google for the error03:38
naryfavicatcu: I don't know why most of it is xorg related03:38
naryfavicatcu: most of these errors have dependency problems03:39
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades    <------- eduardo198103:39
naryfavicatcu: xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion depends on xorg-video-abi-11; however:   Package xorg-video-abi-11 is not installed.03:39
eduardo1981Ok, I'm checking documentation of EOL bazhang, thanks03:39
naryfavicatcu: you have an ati graphics card?03:40
vicatcuyea03:40
vicatcufor sure03:40
vicatcuati mobility radeon hd587003:41
naryfavicatcu: download their driver from the website, what I understand is that Ubuntu repos have old packages03:41
naryfavicatcu: xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion depends on xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901); however:   Version of xserver-xorg-core on system is 2:1.10.4-1ubuntu4.2.03:42
vicatcuok i'll see what i can fined03:42
vicatcufind03:42
wilee-nileenaryfa,  what the repos have is the modified drivers to follow updates, which the ones from the site wont03:42
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naryfawilee-nilee: I see, but then the ones in repos prevent him from updates, and apt has errors, if you know better, please help03:43
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wilee-nileevicatcu, I looked at it earlier there were 405 held upgrades03:44
saryPlaytime: if you insist on installing Ubuntu from Windows through Wubi .. then follow steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide03:44
wilee-nileenaryfa, I looked at it earlier there were 405 held upgrades03:44
saryPlaytime: i would look in the log file for any kind of errors.03:45
naryfawilee-nilee: and what do you think?03:45
saryPlaytime: just to show you how trouble is Wubi and you're not alone with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929278 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180242703:46
PlaytimeI'm still digging through that log, it's extremely long.03:46
eduardo1981bazhang, isn't the same update directly from the automatic updater from 9.10 to 10.03 LTS ?03:46
wilee-nileenaryfa, I have not been following, what I see though with advise on drivers is that the only time to use the drivers from the site is when nothing else will run, not sure if that is the case here. Or if a user is savvy enough to run this way03:46
PlaytimeAs for the guides, not helpful, since they have no information to where my error is.  I'll take a look at those forums links though03:46
bazhangeduardo1981, did you read the links carefully?03:47
saryPlaytime: alright , you can post the log file to paste.ubuntu.com if you want some assistance .03:47
Donnie_Darko21and good news for libreoffice now import was done and 100 percent better then openoffice03:47
wilee-nileenaryfa, I waqs just questioning the broad generalized statement of drivers ages in the repos, there is a reason they are older they are modified to run in the release that can run them.03:47
naryfawilee-nilee: I have no other option then, what I see in errors is that apt is crying about dependencies. Dependencies in repos are apparently old. Unless he's got testing repos enabled and some packages were upgraded and some not.03:48
eduardo1981bazhang, I'm on it, I'm just asking03:48
zykotick9wilee-nilee: +1 totally agree ;)03:48
wilee-nileezykotick9, you would know the truth. :)03:49
Donnie_Darko21LibreOffice requires a recent version of Java Runtime Environment (JRE) for full functionality so i installed perfect and now libre works amazing03:49
zykotick9wilee-nilee: out of repo drivers is so rarely needed03:49
saryPlaytime: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195599103:49
vicatcuhi wilee-nilee03:49
vicatcuwilee-nilee: you see the synaptic output I posted?03:49
wilee-nileevicatcu, I wish I had more expertise in drivers, I just don't.03:49
vicatcuwilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000176/03:49
saryPlaytime: what a truoble , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871823 .. if i were you , i'd backup my data and go for a native installation.03:51
wilee-nileevicatcu, not much I can do with that without a context, and even then I doubt I would know.03:51
vicatcuwilee-nilee: ya i understand03:51
wilee-nileelooks like a wall of text it has been a long day. vicatcu ;)03:51
vicatculol no worries03:52
asahiwhen I run top, I can see that there are 6 ruby processes. However, when I run ps auxw | grep ruby, only one shows up. why is that?03:53
Playtimesary, one of your links proved helpful! I've got a good chunk of reading to do now.03:53
zykotick9asahi: top or htop?03:54
asahizykotick9: top03:54
jribasahi: probably threads03:54
zykotick9asahi: ok, checking if you where seeing threads (didn't think top showed those by default, and i know htop does)03:54
saryPlaytime: nice , good luck. :)03:55
asahips -A also shows 6 ruby processes03:55
number9Since upgrading to Precise the plus and underscore no longer work.  The keys work but to access those symbols I have to press shift and nothing happens.  I have been trying to find a solution but have found nothing online.  Any thoughts?03:56
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saryPlaytime: similar to the error you get  ..   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1796547.html03:56
freezwayso banshee doesnt actually edit music metadata of the actual the files, how do I force it to do this?03:57
vicatcunaryfa: re-running synaptic seemed to succeed the second time03:59
naryfavicatcu: did you install the new driver?03:59
saryPlaytime: https://answers.launchpad.net/wubi/+question/12864703:59
naryfavicatcu: or what?03:59
lewellyngah. the "alternative" disc also never gets to the point of loading the kernel after selecting to install from the boot menu. :/03:59
vicatcuno i literally just tried "Mark All Upgrades" again03:59
vicatcuand it worked this time04:00
naryfagood then04:00
vicatcunaryfa: i guess how do i know it really worked?04:00
webnetanyone know how i can boot a ubuntu install directly into the gui of an application without a DE?04:00
naryfanaryfa: I'm happy04:00
* lewellyn is really surprised to be having such issues on an intel-branded motherboard, especially when at least 3 other OSes install fine.04:00
naryfavicatcu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:00
vicatcunarfy: restart and see if ubuntu boots :)04:00
naryfavicatcu: lol, try04:00
eduardo1981bazhang - About the requirements... in the file /etc/apt/sources.list - I don't understand exactly the orders.. should I have only the mentioned sources lists or I should append those lists to my file ?04:01
vicatcunarfya: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.04:01
vicatcunarfya: the following packages have been kept back: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:01
vicatcunarfya: the following packages have been kept back: gnome-sudoku gnomine unity-scope-musicstores04:01
naryfavicatcu: you can probably force the upgrade in synaptic upgradable filter04:02
naryfavicatcu: if you really want to04:02
sarylewellyn: what seems to be the issue , could you state it in a nutshell please :)04:02
* webnet is ready to pull hair out... UGHGHG. lol04:03
lewellynsary: the install cd never loads the kernel.04:03
bp0for some reason unity starts in the "GNOME classic" session. how do I stop that?04:03
lewellynsary: if i hit "Install Ubuntu04:03
lewellyngrr04:03
webnetanyone know what i can search google for. my searches have revealed nothing to me so perhaps im searching the wrong terms?04:03
lewellynsary: if i hit "Install Ubuntu" once the drive's spun down, it doesn't spin back up. and it's across multiple drives and 2 different install discs.04:04
vicatcunaryfa: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:04
naryfavicatcu: I guess it's ok then04:04
webnetlewellyn, i had that issue with my server. try the alternate install cd. worked for me04:04
vicatcunaryfa: nice... thanks for the guidance!04:04
vicatcunaryfa: wish me luck, i'm restarting04:05
lewellynwebnet: just used the alternate cd with multiple drives, too04:05
naryfavicatcu: I didn't do much, but no problem, I'm glad something worked04:05
naryfavicatcu: go ahead04:05
lewellynand i don't have a pxe-capable nic lying about, else i'd try pxe too.04:05
webnetlewellyn, hmmm. trust me i feel your pain. believe it or not pxe didnt work for me at all04:05
webnetlewellyn, i have 4 of the same model of server using the same processor sand just using the same usb disc drive for install04:06
sarylewellyn: did you md5 test the iso before burnning to the CD media , also its better to burn with slow speed .04:06
lewellynsary: yes. and i burnt at the same speed as this media likes for every other os install disc (18x)04:06
webnet3 took fine 4th wouldnt work on the same cd i used for the other 3 alternate worked04:06
lewellynthe same media also works in the same drives in different machines04:07
webnetlewellyn, sounds like the same issue i had04:07
lewellyni'm starting to think it's something specific to the Intel D865PERL motherboard and ubuntu.04:07
HorizonXPI just wanted to come in here and say, you guys suck for not including Qt 4.8 in 12.04 LTS04:07
saryYeah , usb installation medai is much better , it will aslo save you from wasting CD's.04:07
HorizonXPthat is all.04:07
AndChat|712361.04:07
webnetHorizonXP, you realize we didnt write ubuntu right?04:07
lewellynwhat's really annoying is that windows, illumos, and freebsd all install fine.04:08
lewellynwebnet: he's gone04:08
webneti see that04:08
webnetlewellyn, i hate when people do that04:08
webnetor when its like username: i have a question and the *username has quit04:08
sarylewellyn: can you reach the GRUB menu at all.04:09
armenceHey all. Is there a command-line equivalent of the startup disk creator?04:09
lewellynsary: yes. and kernel parameters are pointless if the kernel never gets decompressed at all ;)04:09
saryarmence: dd04:09
lewellynand yes, i've disabled splash and quiet04:09
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zykotick9armence: if it's a 12.04 iso just use cat04:09
webnetarmence, use cat04:09
lewellynsary: actually, it's the cd, so that's probably actually syslinux?04:09
webnetdamn zykotick9 you beat me04:09
webnetlol04:10
armenceall, thanks04:10
webnetnp04:10
webnetso let me ask this all how do i boot into the gui of a program without a DE?04:10
sarylewellyn: am not sure wha you mean abbout syslinux ..04:11
webnetlike on embedded devices04:11
thewazirsometime my ubuntu 12.04 sound behave weird, sound wouldn't come proper and I have to restart then04:11
lewellynsary: the boot cd uses syslinux, not grub, correct?04:11
zykotick9webnet: startx with an xinitrc that exec's your program?  might work?04:11
* lewellyn looks in the iso04:11
armencezykotick9, webnet Do I need to mount it or do I cat to the device?04:11
armenceIn /dev I mean04:11
lewellynoh i guess it actually is grub. interesting.04:12
lewellynso yeah. grub isn't doing whatever magic needs to be done to load the kernel04:12
zykotick9armence: don't mount it - this will delete everything on it!  you ok with that?04:12
webnetzykotick9, duh why didnt i think of that. thank you.04:12
armencezykotick9, Yes I am04:12
zykotick9armence: are you 100% sure which device it is?04:12
SFREGIOyeah totally04:13
armencezykotick9, That was going to be my next question...04:13
eduardo1981bazhang, thanks...04:13
armencezykotick9, How do I know which device it is04:13
saryGRUB indeed , after the BIOS screen keep prissing SHIFT to bring up the GRUB Menu ..04:13
zykotick9armence: dmesg after plugging it in might work04:13
ZaNeIuMwhat that program that pastes your contents like if i do ls -a in a directoy it pastes the contens to a web page04:13
SFREGIOson troppo intoccabile nessuno puo farmi un cazzo cia :D04:13
dr_willis!blkid04:13
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:13
dr_willisZaNeIuM:  pastebinit04:14
lewellynsary: the alternate cd boots straight to grub.04:14
sarylewellyn: and 18x is really fast , i always go with 4x .04:14
zykotick9armence: dr_willis's blkid suggestion is probably easier and better, plug the drive in and run "sudo blkid" can you identify the USB with that?04:14
lewellynsary: i've burnt literally hundreds of install media on these cds. 18x is the sweet spot.04:15
armencezykotick9, It's an sd card and there is a /dev/mmcblk0 sounds like a winner?04:15
sarylewellyn: cool , press 'e' while you at that menu04:15
lewellynthis isn't my first time around the block.04:15
armencedr_willis, Thanks, I'll try that04:15
sarylewellyn: am sure :)04:15
zykotick9armence: we need a /dev/sdX where X is a letter04:15
dr_willisarmence:  ive seen sd cards use such device names befpr. mmcblk0  on laptops built in card readers04:15
lewellynsary: i just find it utterly amazing that an intel reference board could possibly have this many problems with ubuntu when it runs other OSes fine. :/04:16
dr_willisa usb sd card reader . ive seen use sdXx  - built in card reader seem to use mmcXXXXX04:16
zykotick9armence: i'm sorry, perhaps mmcblk0 is you device??? but if that's the case i don't feel comfortable helping any further :(04:16
armencedr_willis, It is a laptop built-in card reader04:16
armencezykotick9, Thanks for taking me this far04:16
dr_willistry a sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcWhatever04:17
ZaNeIuMdr_willis how to i install that plz04:18
dr_willison my netbook the sdcard is mmc*, on my desktop its sd* because the desktop is using a usb port for it.04:18
dr_willisZaNeIuM:  its in the repos04:18
dr_willis!info pastebinit04:18
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-2ubuntu2 (precise), package size 15 kB, installed size 172 kB04:18
number9My plus and underscore no longer work in unity and gnome-shell but work fine in xfce.  Any ideas on how to fix this?04:18
sarylewellyn: i hear you :) .. but this could be related to different area with your situation  , and each distro have different setup on the chiped kernel .04:19
ZaNeIuMthank you dr_willis04:19
sarylewellyn: is it an old Intel board .04:20
vicatcuhi again04:20
saryHey04:20
ZaNeIuMcould you tell me how i would use it now just to get the contents of the dir i am in now?04:20
vicatcuhad to resort to a second computer here...04:20
lewellynsary: and a very popular board. it also happens to be my most powerful available 32-bit board (since i specifically need 32-bit ubuntu for this set of tasks, i don't want to waste a 64-bit board)04:20
vicatcuAfter upgrading successfully to 12.04 LTS, I can no longer log in to the desktop04:20
armencedr_willis, OK, if I pull the card out, /dev/mmwhatever goes away so I feel quite confident that it's the right device04:21
vicatcuafter typing the password, the screen goes black for a few seconds then comes back to prompt with the rejection sound04:21
saryvicatcu: where do you get stuck at ..04:21
number9I just solved my + and _ problem.  Universal Access "zoom in" and "zoom out" were assigned to these keys and that was preventing them to work in gnome environments.04:21
dr_willisvicatcu:  what does it do exactgy when you try?04:21
vicatcusary: at the login prompt04:21
armencedr_willis, Actually, there are two devices: /dev/mmcblk0p1 and /dev/mmcblk0. Do you know what that means?04:22
dr_willisvicatcu:  can the yser login at the console?04:22
vicatcudr_willis: like if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1?04:22
dr_willisarmence:  p1 = partion1, like sda1 sda2 you got mmcblkXpY04:22
dr_williswhere X= devvice, Y=partition04:22
dr_willisvicatcu:  those are the consoles.. yes04:23
armencedr_willis, Makes lots of sense. So is it on the partition that I should cat the iso or directly on the device?04:23
dr_willisarmence:  you image the iso to the device.. not a partition04:24
vicatcudr_willis: yes I just logged in with console04:24
zykotick9armence: directly to the device - no partition!04:24
armencedr_willis, zykotick9 Thanks all.04:24
vicatcudr_willis: I think the username being assumed at the prompt is the wrong one04:24
sarylewellyn: i see , i whould add nomodeset to the kernel as an option within the live cd to pass to the desktop and see how the installaion goes .. it could also be a graphic issue in your case thogu.04:24
dr_willisvicatcu:  now as a test. you could make a new user. 'sudo adduser billgates' then see if that user can login properly. if SO then that points to a user setting issue. if it affects new user also that points to a system type issue04:25
dr_willisusername assumed?  huh?04:25
lewellynsary: that's irrrelevant. the kernel never loads. kernel parameters never matter if the kernel's never loaded from disc.04:26
vicatcudr_willis: when i am presented with a prompt, I see two options: Victor and Guest04:26
lewellynonce the cd spins down at the menu, it never spins up again.04:26
vicatcudr_willis: when I log in at the console I log in as vic04:26
dr_willisvicatcu:  id try making a new user. see if they work04:26
vicatcuI can't change the username anywhere in the graphical login04:26
armenceQuick question regarding sudo and pipes. If I sudo a command, what is it that gets sudoed? Redirects? Commands I pipe to?04:27
zykotick9armence: in this case i'd suggest using "sudo -i" then running the cat command04:27
dr_willisarmence:  to use sudo and pipes properly one often has to use 'sudo tee' as part of the command04:27
dr_willisarmence:  theres some sudo guides out there with examples04:28
sarylewellyn: am counfused , do you already have ubuntu installed on your hdd , or just traying to install !04:28
dr_willisif you google for 'ubuntu root shell right way' it should be the first hit for such a guide with an example04:28
vicatcudr_willis: ok i created billgates, and restarted, Bill Gates appears but also can't log in with the password I gave him04:29
lewellynsary: i've said "the install media" countless times :/04:29
vicatcuand if I type an actual wrong password, I see the message "Invalid password, please try again" displayed04:29
sarylewellyn: ah , my bad .04:30
lewellynin any case, kernel parameters can't take effect if there's no kernel.04:30
vicatcucan anyone help me with this login problem?04:30
sarylewellyn: still , we might missed an important part .. the iso image .. have you made an md5 test to it .04:31
wifioregonHi. I'm creating a Help guide for my site on How to put Ubuntu on a USB. Do you think Ubuntu would mind if I took the images off their site and put it on mine? I'm wording the instructions in my own words.04:31
lewellynsary: yes. and it also works in other systems with the same exact disc and same exact cd drives04:31
paulus68Hi, one of my external harddrives gave an input/output error after rebooting I was able to use this drive again, can this be an indication that this drive is about to die?04:32
dr_willispaulus68:  id be making backups of anything imporntant onit04:32
vicatcuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973517 suggests I should do rm ~/.Xauthority    is that safe?04:32
cipher__any reason why ubuntu can't manage to maintain its own repos and not host packages that destroy entire systems?04:32
dr_willisvicatcu:  renameit if youwant.04:32
paulus68dr_willis: Hmmm it's my backup drive :(04:33
dr_willispaulus68:  i have redundant stacks of exernal usb hds for backups04:33
Fat-Thingi just messed up my uubuntu 10.04 gnome desktop now i'm using fluxbox04:33
snowricharddoing the 12.04 lts upgrade on this laptop04:33
Fat-Thingany help to recover my gnome?04:33
cipher__can anyone try installing libasound2-plugin-equal04:33
sarylewellyn: thats very odd , lemme check on something .. hold up please :)04:33
paulus68dr_willis: ok will start looking for a new one, my wife would be happy to hear that lol04:34
ZaNeIuManyone know how to use pastebinit to post the contents of a certian directory?04:35
dr_willispaulus68:  i keep 'suspect' hard drives for the wifes video files (i have extra copies) so she can hae a hd in the living room with all her shows on it. and in the backroom.. ;)04:35
dr_willisif they die. no big loss04:35
cipher__is anyone here a mod?04:35
dr_willisZaNeIuM:  bash basics... command | command      for pipes04:35
dr_willisZaNeIuM:  in this case   ls | pastebinit04:35
cipher__ libasound2-plugin-equal04:35
ZaNeIuMls -a | pastbinit04:36
ZaNeIuMvery cool04:36
dr_willisZaNeIuM:  check bash redirection   docs for other examples04:36
dr_willisbash 101 stuff ;)04:36
paulus68dr_willis: jikes what happens when the wife can't see her shows because of a hardrive failure? you are taking a risk here *grin* my wife is already complaining that nothing works when she needs to print or when the cartridges are empty when she needs to print some family pics lol04:37
ZaNeIuMawsome, im more like bach 00204:37
dr_willispaulus68:  then she uses the network share thats an identical hard drive ;)04:37
ZaNeIuMugg bash04:37
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webnetzykotick9, do i have to have a wm to run a gui application?04:41
webnetor can i run it straightup out of the x server04:41
cipher__!help04:41
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:41
zykotick9webnet: no - it's possible with a wm.04:41
zykotick9without04:41
windbuntui want to make my log in screen look just like my desktop (ubuntu 12.04)04:42
windbuntuis there a package for that?04:42
sarylewellyn: jus to be in the light here .. you can see GRUB menu with kernels listed .. right !04:42
cipher__crap, minecraft stopped working04:42
cipher__!ops04:42
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler or Jordan_U!04:42
cipher__i'm having a minecraft emergency04:42
webnetcipher__, um minecraft is NOT an emergency04:43
windbuntui don't see ubuntu tweak in my software center?04:43
webnetwindbuntu, u need the launchpad repo04:43
webnetfor it04:43
cipher__what?04:43
windbuntuwhat is the launchpad repo Webnet?04:43
windbuntuive never heard of it04:43
webnetum hold on let me look. i have it thats why i know. lol04:44
windbuntuok ty webnet04:44
windbuntui put in a bug reprt there but never saw that04:44
vicatcuso i'm looking at my lightdm.log file and I see it saying "Failed to load session file /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop: No such file or directory" then "Failed to start greeter"04:44
vicatcuanyone have any insight into that?04:44
webnetwindbuntu, ppa:tualatrix/ppa04:45
webnetyou have to add that to sources.list04:45
windbuntuok ty webnet but what is that is that a command or something?04:45
webnetum hold on04:45
lewellynsary: i see a screen with things like "Install Ubuntu" and "Test CD" and "Test memory"04:46
webnetsudo add-apt-repository <insert the ppa here>04:46
webnetto add a repo04:46
lewellynsary: only memtest boots, which is presumably because it's not booting the ubuntu kernel04:46
windbuntuok ty webnet i guess after i do that it will come clear04:46
webnetwindbuntu, then make sure you sudo apt-get update04:46
webnetthen it should show up there04:46
webnet:)04:47
saryvicatcu: seems like you're missing the Desktop meta package , i'd install ubuntu-desktop from a virtual console or the recovey mode.04:47
windbuntuso by doing that i am calling up a pkg to install that is not in the ubuntu software center is that correct ?04:47
vicatcusary: ok sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in progress04:47
windbuntuso is this a non ubuntu thing webnet? (non supported i mean)?04:50
windbuntu3rd party...04:50
vicatcusary: bingo, I'm in, you are awesome04:51
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Fat-Thingdr_willis, u there? pls help04:52
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dr_willisam at work. so i may have to leave at any time.. state the issue.04:53
Fat-Thingi just messed up my uubuntu 10.04 gnome desktop now i'm using fluxbox04:53
Fat-Thinghow can i get back my ubuntu desktop?04:53
dr_willisdepends on how you messed it up.04:54
dr_willismake new user.see if it wirks for them04:54
Fat-Thingnope04:54
Fat-Thingnothing04:54
dr_willisvague answers are vague.....04:55
Fat-Thingi got the wallpaper and a terminal i can't see panels desktop icons can't even right click so i tried to restart ang used other so i could use my fluxbox04:55
Fat-Thingin fluxbox synaptic package manager gnome is not installed04:55
Fat-Thingi think that's the problem04:55
dr_willissudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:56
dr_willisto install it04:56
sarylewellyn: Alright thanks , please bear with me as i have never seen such an issue nor did i used he alternative cd before .04:59
Fat-Thinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1000265/ dr_willis05:00
lewellynsary: it's very ubuntu-specific05:00
lewellynsary: i'm giving up for the night05:00
sarybut missing the kernel from the installation cd is over my head.05:00
lewellynthe kernel isn't missing. it's just not loading.05:00
sarylewellyn: alright .05:01
lewellynbut i need to go make dinner. it's 220005:01
dr_willisFat-Thing:  so.. its installed.. looks like it was basically installed befor..05:02
sarylewellyn: okay , minde if i send you a memo if i found something about it!05:02
dr_willisFat-Thing:  make a new user. see if they can login05:02
Fat-Thingok05:03
trubborApple TrackPad: Works great on Ubuntu 12.04. Has anyone had any success with getting the "2-finger page swipe" working? I'd love to be able to change web pages with a gesture...05:03
arno-Hi, I want to use my modified keyboard layout. But it's in /usr/share/something so whenever xkb-data will be updated, my modifications will be lost05:15
arno-how to tell apt/dpkg to not touch some files05:16
arno-?05:16
eduardo1981good night05:17
dr_williswhat files?05:17
eduardo1981see you05:17
arno-dr_willis: /usr/share/X11/.../symbols/fr05:18
dr_willisnormally apt asks  if you want to use a changed config file. but that might not be considered a config file.  when i doubt back the altered file up somewhere. and restore it afterwards i guess05:21
dr_willisive never notced an apt 'do not touch' list05:22
arno-dr_willis: no, this is no config file05:22
arno-and saving/restoring it is tedious05:22
dr_willishow often is it getting changed?05:23
Gskelliglast time I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 I had a black screen and it would not boot. I restored a disk image and I'm back on 11.1005:23
dr_willis!nomodeset | Gskellig05:23
cipher__would anyone here mind checking the package libasound2-plugin-equal for install errors?05:23
GskelligI tried that05:23
dr_willisGskellig:  i always do clean installs. so thats about all i can suggest.05:23
Gskelligit was acting like it didn't have write permission to the disk05:23
arno-I think there is a way to do that with dpkg-statoverride, but I don't remember how to do it, and the documentation is tedious05:23
Gskellig=\05:24
windbuntucan i make the panel at the top of the screen the same clear color as my unity launcher (12.04) ?05:24
arno-dr_willis: I don't known how often. But when I used debian, it was about once every month or once every two months. Every time, this put me in a bad mood for the rest of the morning :)05:24
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dr_williswindbuntu:  i recall a setting somewhere that affected the transparenty of the top menubar. some themes made it transparent i recall.05:24
windbuntuthat would look more uniform05:25
windbuntui really like this unity desktop05:25
dr_willisarno-:  unless its somesort of security fix, ubuntu most likely wont be updateing it as often. you could always script rc.local to see if its changed and change it back.05:25
windbuntui seem to recall a time when the top menubar would just disappear so in a way im afraid to mess with it05:26
dr_willistransparent top panel - i think had some  ugly issues  - but i dont recall the details05:26
windbuntuyeah i best not mess with it05:26
dr_willisyou can always reset the unity settings.05:26
windbuntuif the ubuntu mase it to match from the start it would be best05:27
windbuntumade*05:27
dr_willisi think there was some how a trnsparent panel showed the gnome-desktop menus for some reason. i forget why/how - it  only affected some themes05:27
dr_willisSome themes do mke it transparent.05:27
windbuntui use my own desktop wallpaper though not one of the standard ones05:27
dr_willissolid color wallpaper - what real men use. ;)05:28
arno-dr_willis: you're right, xkb-data probably won't have lot of security updates.05:28
dr_willisor this 'my little pony' wwallpaper i found..05:28
windbuntui use weird looking retro doze wallpaper05:28
windbuntuso my os look way old05:28
dr_willisC64 wallpaper ;)05:29
windbuntuw9805:29
windbuntuw9505:29
windbuntueven vista sometimes05:29
windbuntueven though i really dislike those OS's05:29
dr_willisi dislike the color-smear default wallpaper :) so i changed it to a brown-pangolin picture i found05:30
dr_willisthe 'show users wallpaper on login screen' feature... can get embaraseing ;)05:30
dr_williswonder if that feature works with encrypted homes05:31
vllwhich dict software is good ?05:33
dr_willis'dict' meaning?05:33
vlldr_willis:  translate tool05:34
grillermogoogle translate05:34
grillermo:P05:34
WizardHi.05:34
grillermohi05:34
dr_willisih!05:35
cipher__dr_willis, this package "libasound2-plugin-equal" is broken. it un-installs all your installed packages one by one.05:35
moonffff05:35
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shyun수환형님이... 꺼지래...05:35
Guest96691hi05:36
cipher__it uninstalled minecraft as i was playing it :(, and went on to about brick my ubuntu install05:36
xjiujiuhi05:36
xjiujiuIt is so slowly !!!upgrading ubuntu version from 11.10 to 12.04.05:36
cipher__well, my jvm anyway.05:37
Wizardxjiujiu, Slowly?05:37
Wizard!cn | shyun05:37
ubottushyun: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw05:37
dr_williscipher__:  first ive ever heard of it05:38
dr_willis!info libasound2-plugin-equal05:38
ubottulibasound2-plugin-equal (source: alsaequal): equalizer plugin for ALSA. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-2 (precise), package size 14 kB, installed size 77 kB (Only available for linux-any)05:38
Wizard!ko | shyun05:38
ubottushyun: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko05:38
Wizardshyun, sorry ;]05:38
xjiujiuWizard, yes..um..05:38
cipher__dr_willis, 64bit 11.1005:38
xjiujiuthe download speed is just 4.xxkb/s..05:38
Wizardxjiujiu, That depends on how many packages you have installed.05:39
dr_willismain servers were slow over the weekend, they seem fixed now.05:39
xjiujiuThe upgrade info shows that I need upgrade 2,111 packages..05:40
Wizardxjiujiu, Did you set up proper mirror in spurces.list?05:40
dr_willisone of the many reasons i always do clean installs05:40
Wizard:)05:40
xjiujiuI set up the apt/source.list..But it's not work...05:41
KM0201dr_willis: same05:41
xjiujiuclean!!!05:41
xjiujiuOh, no~05:41
WizardHmm. I did it "in background" of working.05:41
xjiujiuDon't let me to do this..05:41
Wizardxjiujiu, You don't have to.05:41
KM0201it's just better..lol05:41
dr_willissetup how? the upgrade tools should handle all that05:41
xjiujiuyes, but the download speed is so slowly..05:42
Wizardxjiujiu, Setting proper mirrors in sources.list helps.05:43
xjiujiuOk,fine...05:43
xjiujiuI try it again...05:43
WizardCancelling download shouldn't be a big deal.05:44
WizardWhich mirrors do you use now?05:44
Wizard!mirror05:44
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low!05:45
KM0201you could use the alt. cd and upgrade with it i guess.05:45
KM0201the alt cd should download in about 15-20min w/ the torrents (at least it does for me)05:45
WizardI think LiveCD offers an updating tool too.05:45
WizardYesterday I was almost sure.05:46
WizardNow I'm not.05:46
xjiujiuI have added some mirrors into the source.list, but they aren't work,the download address is aways http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/05:46
danny_hello this isnt directly ubuntu related but im sure u guys could point me in the right direction im looking for a irc channel for asking questions about the command line im reading The Linux Command Line by William E. Shotts, Jr. and have some questions because i wanted to learn more about it and theres some things i am very confused about05:49
xjiujiuSome articles said that all of files will be cleaned on the / direcotry,just the /home directory can be save..05:49
xjiujiuupgrading by livecd.05:50
dr_willisa upgrade will not touch stuf in /home05:50
dr_willisa clean install can save it or reforamt it05:50
dr_willisdanny_:  #bash channel05:51
dr_willisonly the alt-instsller cd has a upgrade feature i belive05:51
sarydanny_: hi , you could try asking the guys in ##linux , and you can always search for channels in freenode with keywords using alis , for eample /msh alis list *gnu* .. see /msg alis list help05:51
danny_sary: is linux freenode?05:52
dr_willisthis is the freenode irc network.05:52
icebytehi05:52
sarydanny_: no , freenode is the IRC network your in right now.05:52
vllgrillermo: when I select a word in terminal or vim , and press ctrl+c , google translate can't auto popup the translate for that word .05:52
xjiujiuI don't want to set up my server environment again.so ...05:52
danny_sary, lol see ima noob big time how do i get to the ##linux channel05:53
KM0201danny_: "/j #linux" no quotes05:53
sarydanny_: we all were at some point , you type /join ##linux .05:53
icebyteicebytesay hi05:53
dr_willismost clients let you click on channel names that begin with   #05:53
xjiujiuclick the ##linux :D05:53
Troller:D05:53
KM0201dr_willis: thats a good point05:54
KM0201#linux will take you to ##linux as well.05:54
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snowrichardhi05:56
fidel_ahoi05:56
snowrichardstill doing 12.04 lts upgrade05:56
danny_sary, im a painter and realized im not doing much with my life so ive decided to start playing around with what ive been wanting to do for a wile and see if i can start helping noobs like me out in my free time and start learning to code soon after i figure this basics out05:56
KM0201snowrichard: seems you're not the only one.05:56
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KM0201snowrichard: what are you upgrading from?05:57
KM020111.10 or 10.04? (i thought the LTS upgrade wouldn't be ready until 12.04.105:57
snowrichard11 something05:57
* KM0201 hopes its 11.1005:57
joel:)05:57
* iamzim pats danny_ on the back.05:57
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danny_any one have any suggestions on other books i should look into that are very very easy to understand like before today i didnt know how to cd /home/Downloads lol05:58
incogunity is awful05:59
snowrichardi've noticed on my other desktop that has already upgraded that there are notifications about system errors, but they don't seem to affect most of the programs i am actually using05:59
dr_willisbash is very well dociumented danny_  100's of books out on it05:59
dr_willisunity works very well.05:59
dr_willis!abs | danny_05:59
ubottudanny_: Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/05:59
danny_dr_willis: thats what i was looking for thank you sir06:00
dr_willisdelicious.com has 1000's of things  tagged with bash tutorial06:01
dr_willisthe Oreialy book 'Using Bash' is a must track down also ;)  often its in the  bargin bins at real bookstores06:01
dr_willisor find a E-book version06:01
LinuxMonkeydr_willis: I will second that book its usefull :)06:02
halakaroh crap, all my youtube videos have a blue tint.  how to fix?06:02
dr_willis'mastering regular expressions' is also a good book to read.. even if you donmt understand it at first06:02
sarydanny_:nice thinkin .. check LPIC book , 2nd edition , whats interesing is that you can take the exam online.06:02
dr_willishalakar:  use the html5 feature of youtube and dump flsh06:02
halakardr_willis, how to do that?06:02
dr_willishalakar:  youtube.com/html506:02
sarydump it like dumping for real :D06:03
Troller:D06:03
halakarthat worked06:03
dr_willisi noticed colors for some vids were wrong in flash on youtube. but others were ok. they aall were ok with html506:03
dr_willisplus its not using flash.. ;)06:04
dr_willisso phhhhtt.. to adobe06:04
sarydanny_: and ITNA as well , but i haven't found a good book for it.06:04
saryi've used Gnash , not to bad i may say.06:05
danny_sary, i shouldnt have asked so soon starting to get confused were i should start now but what is itna ?06:05
sary*too06:05
dr_willis206:06
dr_willis;)  start with  The bash basics books,,, and expand from there06:06
quesada_I  got /usr/bin/X  pegging a CPU all the time. it started recently. This happens even if I have very few windows open. How would I start debugging this? (Kwin as w. manager)06:07
sarydanny_:  Information Technology and NetWork Administration (ITNA)06:07
dr_willisquesada_:  ive notied a similer thing after X is running for a long time. a logout/backin (restart X server) seems to fix it...  not seen any definitive answer on whaats sucking down the cpu. Just X will taake 50% of one core here.. but lags the whole system06:08
quesada_that's ti06:08
quesada_it06:08
sarydanny_: alos , the LPI LinuxCertification in a Nutshell .. is a good one.06:08
dr_willisquesada_:  does it in every desktop or even in just  simple winmdow manager like openbox06:08
quesada_but what a pitiful solution ... logging out? That sucks06:08
quesada_I only tried kwin06:08
dr_willisquesada_:  some driver issue would be my guess. using nvida drivers here.06:09
quesada_me too06:09
danny_well thanks guys ive written down all the ones u suggested i think this will keep me busy for a wile06:09
dr_willisand ive tried the normal nvidia from the repos.. and the latest from the various ppas06:09
icebytehi06:09
icebyte hi06:10
quesada_but noveau is not any better? have you tried it?06:10
dr_willisih06:10
saryhey06:10
dr_willisquesada_:  never really noticed. My pc is just a ssh box most of the time. ;)06:10
quesada_dr_willis: so no driver solved it?06:10
quesada_dr_willis: have you googled it? what keywords did you use?06:11
dr_willisquesada_:  all the nvidia drivers follow the same pattern.. long uptime = gets slow. BUt sometimes if i do somthing with a lot of system load. it seems to happen faster.. like reencoding with handbreak. it will get laggy within 20 min06:11
quesada_'X' is not a good one :)06:11
quesada_what hardware do you have?06:12
dr_willisit happenss in lubuntu, and ubuntu/unity, and gnome-shell06:12
icebytehi06:12
dr_willissome midrange nvidia card.. i forget the # its about a year old06:12
icebyteicebytesay hi06:13
quesada_how long have you experienced the problem?06:13
saryquesada_: nvidia-curent freezed and crached My X , haven't got an issue with noveau .06:13
icebyteicebytesay hello06:13
dr_willisquesada_:  since release.. dont recall the issue in beta. but i dident beta test much06:13
LinuxMonkeyNouveau doesnt offer 3d accel right?06:14
quesada_dr_willis: did you find anything googling?06:15
quesada_is this a known bug?06:15
mjreedHey, trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04, but update manager only offers 11.10.   Help?06:16
dr_willisquesada_:  a few with similer issues. no real details06:16
mjreedI even have 12.04 livecd mounted and in apt sources06:16
DarwinSurvivormjreed: You need to upgrade to 11.10, then to 12.0406:16
mjreed...06:16
mjreedso this http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1004-1010-1104-to-ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-a-server/ is incorrect, then?06:17
LinuxMonkeyhahaha nvm on my question about nouveau found my answer.lol06:17
DarwinSurvivormjreed: the alternative is to just reinstall and keep your home folder (but you'll need to reinstall all your applications as well)06:17
quesada_I'm amazed at how used we linuxers are to these things06:17
mjreedThat's a whole lot of extra work and time, either way.06:17
dr_willisyou go lts-:lts Or go each step...06:17
quesada_we sort of assume we have to put up with this06:17
quesada_a 3day uptime and I have to reboot X? Bah!06:17
dr_willisive had worse issues with windows06:18
mjreedso if I were still on 10.04 I could go straight to 12.04, but from 11.04 I have to go through 11.1006:18
dr_willis10.04 to 12.04 wont be avail untill 12.04.1 is outr06:18
dr_willisout06:18
KM0201mjreed: basically...06:18
Jordan_Umjreed: Correct.06:18
DarwinSurvivormjreed: correct, because 10.04 and 12.04 are both LTS releases, that is the only time you can "skip" release when upgrading06:18
dr_willisi rarely upgrade. ;)06:19
mjreedwell, there's a lot of misinformation out there, then, and like an idjit I believed it.06:19
* KM0201 has never upgraded06:19
saryLinuxMonkey: i haven't checked on that , am running gnome-shell fine with it .. what did you find !06:19
mjreedi have a full backup, I can just reinstall..06:19
dr_willismisinformation? the lts to lts.. or step by step.. is how its been for years..06:19
DarwinSurvivormjreed: when in doubt, read the *official* ubuntu docs, not random blog posts you find on google :)06:19
Jordan_Umjreed: Best to stick to official documentation, which usually contains very little misinformation :)06:19
dr_willisthe 'waiting untill 12.04.1' is out for lts to lts  is new to 12.04 i belive06:20
LinuxMonkeysary: there is some 3d accel now but its highly unstable06:21
saryCan't one change the release type to lts and upgrade to straight to the next lts .06:21
dr_willissary thats a scary idea06:21
hotbytehi06:21
Jordan_Usary: No.06:21
DarwinSurvivorsary: LTS is not a "type", only certain release are LTS.06:21
DarwinSurvivor!lts06:21
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)06:22
saryLinuxMonkey: nice , any source that i can read about that .06:22
dr_willislts to lts upgrades have been 'tested' to work also i belive06:22
sarydr_willis: i was just asking ..06:22
sarynever done an lts to lts before ..06:22
dr_willisi rarely if ever upgrade.06:22
KM020110.04 users who upgrade to 12.04 will get quite a shock.. no more gnome 2.x (unity)06:22
LinuxMonkeysary: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ <--then go down to the quick overview section06:23
dr_willisi can do a clean install in 1/2 the time06:23
mjreedfair enough.06:23
KM0201yup06:23
KM0201not to mention if the upgrade fails, you're probbly hosed anyway and you'll have to clean install.06:23
mjreedquick rsync to refresh the ol' backup, and off I go to reinstall06:23
saryLinuxMonkey: thank you :)06:23
hotbytehello06:23
mjreedyes, that happened on the last box I upgraded from 10.x to 11.x.  Everything outside of my home dir was completely wiped.06:24
mjreedmight as well have done the clean install in the first place.06:24
mjreedthe 11.x to 12.x upgrade on the same box went fine, though.06:24
roshanhello06:25
roshanToday, I installed Ubuntu 12.0406:26
mjreedis dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections still the way to get packages back?06:26
dr_willis!clone06:26
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate06:26
roshanI sudoed apt-update and apt-upgrade06:26
DarwinSurvivorhuh, I wonder if a french person wrote that, they tend to use the << notation instead of "06:26
roshanMy question is , is it possible to remove all the non free items, restricted drivers, extras, etc ?????????06:27
slipknothi  i am trying compile blueman ver 1.2.3 bat i get this message configure: error: Could not find Python headers06:27
mjreedif they'd been German it'd be  »...  «  instead.06:27
dr_willisroshan:  start removing them.. if you want.. but why bother.06:27
dr_willisroshan:  i recall some ubuntu variant (unofficial) that came without them by default.06:28
roshanBut, I dont know how to remove those, and where they are installed .06:28
drizzlinslipknot: try apt-getting gcc headers06:28
drizzlinor gcc06:28
dr_willisroshan why are you worried about it then:06:28
roshanun officials is ok....i don't want free as in freedom softwares06:28
DarwinSurvivorroshan: what is your reason for removing them? Is it functional, philisophical, political, legal or educational?06:29
roshanphilosophical...06:29
dr_willismay be some guides on it online. never really notced.06:29
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johnownhi06:30
roshanYou might have heard of many issues in India related to knowledge sharng.06:30
saryhey06:30
LinuxMonkeyKeep in mind roshan you may loose alot of functionality by removing those06:30
roshanSo, why make the government do something to ban these..06:30
roshanIt would be better to stay on the safe free side06:30
mjreedok, thanks, off with me to reinstall..06:30
dr_willisgov. is going to ban flash? ;)06:30
dr_willisremoveing them so the gov. wont make you remove them?06:30
roshanLinuxMonkey, I don't want to remove all those that were there preinstalle.d06:31
mjreedthe software in question is all legal, even in India... it's just not open-source.06:31
roshanno..they aren't06:31
dr_willisas soon as they order people to not do somthing...  they wnt to do it even more06:31
DarwinSurvivorroshan: can you post a link to the issues you are talking about?06:31
roshanWe cant trust.because, now, the torrent sharing has been blocked here06:31
dr_willisthere are 'libre' variants of many disrtos out that try to be 100% GPL.06:32
roshanIs it possible to remove only those files that were installed after apt-get upgrade && apt-get update06:32
DarwinSurvivorroshan: torrents have nothing to do with "free" or "non-free". in fact, a LOT of free software (including ubuntu) is distributed via torrents06:32
dr_willisyou can remivce them.. if you know what to removce06:32
xanguaroshan: free software foundation has recomended 100% free/libre  distros, if i recall gnewsence is one of them and it's based in ubuntu06:32
xanguaroshan: if you want 100% you would even need to remove the kernel with has propietary blobs06:33
dr_willisbut variants like gnewsence are not supported here.06:33
DarwinSurvivorxangua: well of course they have, microsoft also recommends microsoft software, but that has little to do with policies in India...06:33
roshanXangua, but, we gay GNU/Linux, so, it can be considered free.06:33
DarwinSurvivorxangua: actually, I don't think the kernel does have any proprietary blogs, only some of the modules (which are added at *runtime*) are proprietary06:34
DarwinSurvivor*blobs06:34
DarwinSurvivorxangua: if the kernel had binary blobs, they wouldn't be able to use the GPL to distribute it!06:35
roshanCan you tell me, how to remove only those after upgrade ?06:35
DarwinSurvivorroshan: why is upgraded non-free software a problem, but not the original non-free software?06:36
DarwinSurvivorroshan: also, if you undo the update and then never update again, you will never get security updates, which is *BAD*06:36
roshanThat is a pint Darwin Survivor, ..I too wished to ask a quetion06:36
urlwolfhmm, X stopped sucking CPU. it fixed itself06:37
roshanIs it like Ubuntu only comes with  free softwares ?06:37
urlwolfbut I'm very worried. An uptime of 3 days only, and this happens?06:37
coyi need dual mointur withh ubuntu 12.0406:37
dr_willisurlwolf:  i had the issue.. thought it went away.. then it came back06:37
icebytehi06:38
urlwolfargh06:38
dr_willisurlwolf:  restarting X fixed it for me.. for a while..06:38
urlwolfbut that's no solution long-term...06:38
johnownhi06:38
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DarwinSurvivorurlwolf: could you re-post the original problem, the scrollback is quite long06:38
urlwolf got /usr/bin/X  pegging a CPU all the time. it started recently. This happens even if I have very few windows open. How would I start debugging this? (Kwin as w. manager)06:39
icebyteicebytesay hello06:39
johnown hell06:39
urlwolfuptime 3 days06:39
dr_willisurlwolf:  long term will be when they fix the bug06:39
urlwolfGUI extremely slow06:39
DarwinSurvivorurlwolf: can you install htop and then turn on the "tree" view (F5) and see if there is a bunch of stuff it has spawned?06:39
urlwolfdr_willis: hahah06:39
dr_willisurlwolf:  ive had it happen after just 8 hrs06:40
urlwolfI did06:40
roshanAnyone ??06:40
urlwolfnothing that I could see on htop06:40
dr_willisits not long uptime..its long X runtime here.06:40
LordDeathis it normal that after installing the fglrx driver I have no suspend to disk anymore?06:40
urlwolfdr_willis: correct06:40
dr_willishtop shows X taking 50% of a single  core onmy 8 core system. but its lagging like crazy.06:40
urlwolfdr_willis: did this happen with nouveau too?06:40
dr_willisrestrt x - its down to 0-1% withsame apps going06:40
urlwolfdr_willis: this is exactly the problem06:41
DarwinSurvivorroshan: you seem  to be going all over the place, first you wanted to remove non-free software, then you wanted to undo an update (which would not have *added* any non-free software)06:41
dr_willisi dont recall trying nouveau. it did it with every wm i tested.06:41
urlwolfmaybe nouveau helps06:41
DarwinSurvivorroshan: what is it *exactly* that you are worried about (software patents, codecs, copyright, proprietary software with security problems, etc)?06:41
roshanDawin Survivor, In the software sources, the non-free extras and propreitary softwares are ticked by default.06:42
roshanThat is why i asked so,06:42
DarwinSurvivorurlwolf: does this happen in all accounts, or just yours?06:42
swapnenduh06:42
swapnenduhi06:42
linuxi think new kernel has more bug06:42
roshanAs you said, just doing an update will not install any non free items ?06:42
DarwinSurvivorroshan: and what is your reason for wanting to remove them?06:42
halakarvideos in chromium still show with a blue tint on youtube, what gives?06:42
roshanhello06:42
xanguahalakar: tried disabling flash hardware acceleration¿06:42
icebyteI cannot see what I have typed on a channel.06:42
DarwinSurvivorroshan: no, all it will do is update the software that is already installed some of that may have been non-free, but you already had an older copy of it anyways.06:43
roshanokay06:43
roshanthat saved me06:43
roshani mean the answer you provided saved me06:43
linuxwhy sometimes mouse stop working after startup06:43
roshanthank you06:43
swapnendudo you think that ubntustudio 11.04 is better than 12.04?06:44
SilentDishalakar: I had a similar problem.  it went away when I did reinstall of the os (kept /home, threw away everything else when I went to 12.04).  I assume it's a setting somewhere for either the nvidia driver or the flash plugin.06:44
halakarhas to be flash related06:44
halakari am a fresh install of 12.04LTS06:44
halakarthis just started happening06:44
DarwinSurvivorswapnendu: probably best to ask in the #ubuntustudio channel06:44
xangua(01:42:53) xangua: halakar: tried disabling flash hardware acceleration¿06:44
swapnendumissed out 11.1006:45
swapnenduhow was it>06:45
swapnendu?06:45
dr_willisyoutube has html5 features that dont use flash06:45
KM0201swapnendu: not bad.. still someone unity quirks I didn't like.. most things (for me anyway) have been resolved in 12.0406:45
DarwinSurvivorswapnendu: this channel is for support questions, if you want opinions and suggestions, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel06:46
swapnenduthanks a lot Darwin06:46
halakarxangua, I can't uncheck it when i right click on the video06:46
DarwinSurvivorhalakar: someone said you have to do it from full-screen (some strange flash bug)06:47
dr_willisive seen flash bugs where yoou cant check the box's. one fix i recall was to keep the right mouse held down while clicking. (no idea why)06:47
urlwolfDarwinSurvivor: I only have one account06:47
xanguahalakar: for some weird reason you have to make the video fullscreen to select Properties06:47
DarwinSurvivorurlwolf: how long does it take to notice the CPU increase (minutes, hours, days)?06:48
roshanIs there a free alternative to flash ?06:48
urlwolffor me it was ~3days06:48
dr_willisroshan:  gnash. but it works with only some sites06:48
mantesthi06:48
xanguaroshan: gnash, lightspark, but don't have all features06:48
urlwolfbut dr_willis says he gets it with only 8hrs06:48
dr_willisurlwolf:  or less..06:49
roshanone more question06:49
urlwolffunny thing, it fixes itself06:49
mantesticebytesay hi06:49
icebyte hi06:49
urlwolfbut I don't trust the system anymoree06:49
roshanI get a battery backup of less than 1 hour. is it possible to improve it?06:49
DarwinSurvivorroshan: on a UPS or a laptop?06:49
SilentDisroshan: you mean, off a UPS or from your laptop's battery?06:49
roshanlaptop06:50
dr_willisroshan depends on the details of themacchine. there may be some tweaks for spefific make/models.06:50
roshanMy laptop06:50
roshanit doesnt get enough backup06:50
dr_willisPower saveing features in the latest kernel are improved.. but some laptops still have issues06:50
DarwinSurvivorroshan: backup? you mean you can't run more than 1 hour on the battery?06:50
SilentDisroshan: age of the laptop?  I'm just trying to rule out a simple 'bad battery'06:50
mantesticebytesay icebyte will say whatever you say.06:50
icebyte icebyte will say whatever you say.06:50
halakarweird, some videos show normal and others don't06:51
dr_willishalakar:  yep. i noticed the same thing.06:51
DarwinSurvivorhalakar: it's a bug in flash, disabling hardware acceleration is the only workaround until adobe fixes it06:51
dr_willisi just started using youtube downloader tools to get them/convert to watch ;)06:51
dr_willisor use the html5 feataure06:52
halakarDarwinSurvivor, ya, but I can't click the button that disables the hardware acceleration06:52
DarwinSurvivorminitube isn't bad either06:52
DarwinSurvivorhalakar: did you try it while the video was in fullscreen?06:52
halakarno06:52
mantesticebytesay icebyte say whatever you say by preceding the word icebytesay06:52
icebyte icebyte say whatever you say by preceding the word icebytesay06:52
DarwinSurvivorhalakar: you need to do that06:53
DarwinSurvivormantest: please stop that06:53
dr_willishalakar:  or just enable html5 for youtube06:53
halakarah, fixed it06:53
halakarI had HTML5 enabled, certain videos were fine but others were not06:53
DarwinSurvivordr_willis: do you know if it affects other flash video sites (vimeo, etc)?06:53
halakarDarwinSurvivor, thanks for the tip.06:54
dr_willisnot all vidoes may be using html5. i think youtube has most converted06:54
dr_willisDarwinSurvivor:  no idea. I dont really flash much06:54
dr_willisi tend to download and watch also...06:54
halakarit's weird it just started acting like that though06:56
mantesthello icebytesay06:57
icebytehello06:57
brianpWinsshould Ubuntu have a /usr/share/dict/words Words file?06:57
DarwinSurvivormantest: please test your bots elsewhere06:57
dr_willis!find /usr/share/dict/words06:58
ubottuFile /usr/share/dict/words found in dictionaries-common, wamerican06:58
brianpWinsthats good and all but my system is missing it. is that something  can install via a package manager or something ?06:58
brianpWins\06:58
dr_willisbot just said its in 'dictionaries-common' package06:59
decciMy Ubuntu 10.04 is unable to detect Broadcom nic bcm572006:59
decciNeither 12.04 suports that06:59
dr_willis!broadcom06:59
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:59
dr_willisnot heaard the 57# befor.07:00
DarwinSurvivordr_willis: I think it's an ethernet card (from google)07:00
dr_willis!bcm07:00
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:00
brianpWinsthank you dr_willis07:00
dr_willisrarely seen a wired card that dident work. ;)07:00
dr_willisseen a few with buggy drivers..  or several differnt drivers07:01
RomanceHello, why my ping is so high in ubuntu 11.04 (200-250ms), but when i use Windows XP , the ping is a bit low (80-100ms)07:01
DarwinSurvivordr_willis: my x220 had a heck of a time with the wired gigabit card in it. Intel 82579LM07:01
decciRomance: Linux is meant for Networking not Windows07:01
decci:)07:01
Romancecool for networking, so why the ping is high07:01
DarwinSurvivorRomance: what are you pinging?07:02
decciRomance: coz Linux is fast07:02
Romancespeedtest.net07:02
Romancehigh ping fast?07:02
DarwinSurvivordecci: lower pings are faster, not higher ones....07:02
decciDarwinSurvivor: kidding07:02
DarwinSurvivordecci: don't do that in here, many users don't know enough to know you are kidding!07:03
dr_willis'great app - best ive ever used !   1 Star!'07:03
decciDarwinSurvivor: Sorry07:03
Romancetry to change to google dns in ubuntu, still the ping is high07:03
DarwinSurvivorRomance: what are you pinging (home router, ISP server, speedtest, google.com, etc) and are you on wired, wireless or 3g?07:03
dr_willisif you ping by ip#  - the dns wont matter.. dident think dns mattered anyway07:03
RomanceDarwinSurvivor : im testing my speed on speedtest.net (include ping test) , and im on wireless07:04
DarwinSurvivordr_willis: it will matter if the dns server you are using routes you to a further server with the same name07:04
dr_willisbut the ping command shows the ip# being used.07:04
dr_willisso jot down the ip#  for your benchnmarking07:05
DarwinSurvivorRomance: ok, 1> are you using the same speedtest server (on the map) as you did in windows 2> what ping do you get to your router 3> have you tried wired?07:05
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Romanceyes in Windows im using exactly the same , tested on speedtest07:05
DarwinSurvivorRomance: speedtest lets you test using different servers (see the icons on the map), did you use the same icon?07:06
Romancei dont care about being wired or wireless, i just want to know why the ping it so different?07:06
Romanceim using the same server07:06
DarwinSurvivorRomance: well, we need to determine if the problem is ubuntu, the wireless, the router, or something else causing the problem first!07:06
Romancewhat problem is that in ubuntu? thats why i asked07:07
DarwinSurvivorRomance: we can't fix a problem if we don't know what is causing it. please run "ping ip_of_your_router_here" and tell us the average ping value you see07:08
albechI am trying to make a screenshot from command line using the import tool from the imagemagick package, but it seems like something is not right with the Z-indexing of windows. All windows appear maximized and without borders at the screenshot, though it looks different on screen for some reason07:08
Romancemaybe i ruined the ubuntu, installed something bad or whatever, but in speedtest the speed almost the same, only the ping so huge difference07:08
DarwinSurvivorRomance: I highly doubt that, if you had messed something up, you probably wouldn't get a connection at all!07:08
tomahawk_ciao07:08
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DarwinSurvivorRomance: please run the command I specified so we can see if it's a wireless or routing problem07:09
tomahawk_italiani?????07:09
fidel_!it | tomahawk_07:09
DarwinSurvivor!it07:09
ubottutomahawk_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)07:09
jefimenkois there a way to force the window manager to reload from another virtual console? (ctrl+alt+F1)07:09
tomahawk_grazie ubottu07:10
jefimenkomy laptop woke up from suspend and i only see a black screen with the mouse pointer07:10
RomanceDarwinSurvivor : ping 192.168.1.1 , average 1ms07:10
jefimenkothe funny thing is if i move the mouse pointer around, i can tell when it hits the password input field, because the cursor becomes the text input cursor07:10
DarwinSurvivorRomance: ok, then it's not a wireless issue07:10
Romanceyeah exactly07:10
DarwinSurvivorjefimenko: try blindly typing in your password and hitting enter07:10
preds_after upgrading to 12.04 I'm getting xorg using 100% of my cpu when just moving windows around the desktop, I have a high end nvidia card using the binary drivers, any suggestions where to start looking for a fix?07:11
DarwinSurvivorRomance: how many times did you run the test in both windows and ubuntu?07:11
jefimenkoDarwinSurvivor: i tried that. it logged me in, but the screen stayed black. i could tell that it logged me in because moving the mouse cursor around hit new text fields now (like the browser URL field)07:11
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jefimenkothen when i suspend and wake again, it's back to the locked screen07:11
jefimenkobut black07:11
DarwinSurvivorjefimenko: sounds like a video card driver problem07:12
jefimenkoi can get to the other virtual consoles perfectly fine using alt+ctrl+f107:12
Romancei dont know DarwinSurvivor, could be few times07:12
DarwinSurvivorRomance: it's not uncommon for ping times to change throughout the day, try switching back and forth between the 2 OS's a few times and see if the difference is consistent. also, please try a normal ping test as speedtest is known to be biased at times. "ping google.com" is a fairly good way to test your latency07:13
jefimenkoDarwinSurvivor: this happens about one in every 20 times i suspend. of course, it isn't fun when it happens because i usually have important coding projects and documents open07:13
jefimenkoDarwinSurvivor: i'm on a nvidia optimus, using the open source nvidia driver07:13
jefimenkois there a way to force a compiz reload or something like that?07:13
DarwinSurvivorjefimenko: ok, well long-term, I'd suggest trying the binary drivers, they tend to be more stable07:13
DarwinSurvivorjefimenko: I don't think the problem is compiz, I think it's X itself, which is VERY difficult to reload without losing your runnig programs07:14
DarwinSurvivorjefimenko: do you currently have any unsaved work open?07:14
jefimenkoi'm pretty sure i did07:14
jefimenkoi just forgot what07:14
MyrttiDarwinSurvivor, Romance: I would try pinging the router first, to make sure it is not part of the problem07:14
DarwinSurvivorMyrtti: already did, 1ms07:15
Myrttiah alright07:15
Fat-Thingmy volume ain't working is there a way to resolve? without restarting my pc?07:19
akhil_houw to correct partial updated 12.04 ?07:21
Marzataakhil_: update it again?07:22
akhil_Marzata: i tried it i am behind network server fire wall. it is blocking some parts . how to update it fully or to remove07:24
Marzataakhil_: sudo apt-get update07:25
Marzataakhil_: after that: sudo apt-get upgrade07:25
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kane77hi, I have large list of files, how do I get total of space taken?07:46
mayanks43put in a folder and see properties07:47
MasterOfDisasterkane77: du -sh <list>07:47
kane77MasterOfDisaster, the list is too long for that (~22000 files)07:47
DarwinSurvivorkane77: the s part means "only give me the total"07:48
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MasterOfDisasterkane77: have a look at xargs, you can sum it up yourself07:48
kane77DarwinSurvivor, well yes, but if I do du -hsc $(mylist_of_files) it fails because that's just too many arguments..07:49
Fat-Thinghi07:49
DarwinSurvivorkane77: don't tell it which files and it will just do the total of the current directory07:50
DarwinSurvivorkane77: you can even do "du -hs /path/to/my/directory"07:50
kane77DarwinSurvivor, these files are in different directories :/07:50
bersamhi everybody! i just installed my NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.34 last graphic from Nvidia,(it's not in the repos yet!). problem is ubuntu doesn't know this driver (driver is working), and it just load unity 2d as default! how can i force it to run unity?07:50
DarwinSurvivorkane77: I've run that command on my ENTIRE home folder (over 600GB of stuff) without issue (took a while though :P)07:50
DarwinSurvivorkane77: oh...07:50
DarwinSurvivorkane77: are they the only files in those directories?07:51
kane77DarwinSurvivor, nope, there's a ton of stuff there :)07:51
fidel_bersam: what have you selected at login?07:51
DarwinSurvivorkane77: ok. May I ask what types of files these are, this seems like a fairly strange request07:52
Miscnimorning all07:52
TBarthHow often do we get a new linux image?07:53
TBartheach week?07:53
kane77well, we have web app and these are files that were marked as deleted in the database but are not physically deleted from filesystem..07:53
kane77DarwinSurvivor, ^^07:53
DarwinSurvivorkane77: ah, ok. well, you could run "for i in $my_list_of_files; do ln -s $i; done" in an empty directory, then run "du -hsL" from that directory07:57
DarwinSurvivorkane77: just make sure you don't have any spaces in your filenames. if you do, a "while read" loop should fix it07:57
kane77Darwin4Ever, ok, got it.. cat undeleted_files | xargs du -s | cut -f 1 | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'07:57
wilee-nileeTBarth, this is ubuntu support can you be more specific,07:57
DarwinSurvivorkane77: that would work as well07:57
DarwinSurvivorkane77: but don't use cat, use xarg's "-a undeleted_files" argument instead07:58
DarwinSurvivorkane77: and since you are checking files one at a time, the -s is pointless07:59
DarwinSurvivor"xargs -a undeleted_files du -s | cut -f 1 | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'" should work a little better08:00
DarwinSurvivoroops08:00
DarwinSurvivor"xargs -a undeleted_files du | cut -f 1 | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'" should work a little better08:00
DarwinSurvivorthere we go08:00
sbarcteamhi.08:00
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sbarcteamI have a process of user with no permissions to write into specific folder. If I am adding user the process runs as into write enabled group, do I have to restart the process or will it be able to write the files after group membership change ?08:01
sbarcteam(question is: is there per-process caching of group/user membership?)08:02
z3braHi all ! I'm tryin' to use the old Vi, but I can't figure HOW. It seems that /usr/bin/vi is just the same as Vim, not just a link. Can someone help me ?08:02
sbarcteamz3bra: there is "vi mode" in vim.08:02
DarwinSurvivorsbarcteam: you will need to restart the process. and depending on how the process was started (cron, bash, etc), you may need to log out and back in again as well08:02
sbarcteamman vim.08:02
sbarcteamDarwinSurvivor: and what is the reason for that ?08:03
DarwinSurvivorsbarcteam: it's just the way it works, the kernel only checks the users' group list when they log in08:03
firascan anybody with gnome 3 pastebine his/her /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css   ?08:03
z3brasbarcteam: I don't want to use a mode, I want to be able to use the old vi =)08:03
DarwinSurvivorz3bra: the mode emulates the old vi. Is there a technical reason for your request, or is it purely nostalgic?08:04
z3braDarwinSurvivor: Got non technical reason btw ^^08:05
z3bra*no08:05
firascan using gnome 3(.4) pastebine his/her "/usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css"   ?08:06
Fat-Thingthere's no video on my youtube page but i can hear a sound :(08:07
DarwinSurvivorfiras: are you looking to restore a corrupted file?08:07
DarwinSurvivorz3bra: I don't think the original vi has been supported (by its developers) for over 10 years, vim pretty much replaced it.08:08
firasDarwinSurvivor: Yes, i missed up the gnome-shell.css08:08
z3braDarwinSurvivor: But Vi, *might* isn't a *nix default program ?08:09
DarwinSurvivor!find /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css08:09
ubottuFile /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css found in gnome-shell-common08:09
z3braWow oO grammar...08:09
z3bra*isn't vi a default *nix program ?08:10
codekKanyone use ejabberd ??08:10
DarwinSurvivorz3bra: if you haven't run an apt-get clean recently, there should be a copy of the file in /var/cache/apt/. look for a .deb file with "gnome-shell" in the name. open that file (it's just an archive) and it should have the original file in it :)08:11
chuz3bra: vim.tiny comes by default.08:11
DarwinSurvivorcodekK: yes, on my arch machine I do (occasionally)08:11
halakarwow, that was amazing08:11
z3brachu: I know that, but this is only for ubuntu.08:11
codekKDarwinSurvivor, can i pm u?08:11
anonymousHello08:12
DarwinSurvivorcodekK: no, please stay in the channel where others can offer solutions and ensure the advice you receive is accurate08:12
codekKOk ok08:12
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Guest33377Can I get some help ?08:12
chuz3bra: Yep, but most people would rather pack vim than vi.08:12
codekKDarwinSurvivor, i configure ejabberd with LDAP auth and all run well08:12
Guest33377HELP08:13
DarwinSurvivorcodekK: what did you need to know (my ejabberd knowledge is not super-expansive, but I know some basics)08:13
Guest33377I AM TRYING TO INSTALL ANON OS TO ROOT08:13
auronandaceGuest33377: depends what you need help with08:13
Guest33377I AM TRYING TO INSTALL ANON OS TO ROOT08:13
AnnieB7803good day08:13
codekKthe problem is i need to set by default the nickname in clients like a displayName from LDAP08:13
DarwinSurvivor!caps08:13
ubottuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:13
wiherekHi08:13
Guest33377I AM TRYING TO INSTALL ANON OS TO ROOT08:13
chuGuest33377: Ok, don't repeat your question within seconds, and the caps is total over-kill.08:13
wilee-nileeGuest33377, please turn off the cpas.08:13
auronandaceGuest33377: stop it08:13
wilee-nileecaps*08:13
Guest33377Sorry sorry08:14
Guest33377There is 1600 people in here08:14
DarwinSurvivorcodekK: sorry, that's outside my knowledge level on ejabberd unfortunately :(08:14
codekKbut it only run when i do right click and more info08:14
codekK:(08:14
codekKok np thx08:14
wiherekI am preparing IDEs for Android - which version of ubuntu should I go with? 12.04?08:14
tomodohi08:14
Guest33377There is 1600 people in here ?08:14
DJonesGuest33377: What are you trying to install08:14
auronandaceGuest33377: anon os? whats that got to do with ubuntu?08:14
tomodowhen I try to shutdpown I get this alert "system policy prevents restarting when tohers are logged in"08:14
tomodohow do I change that system policy?08:14
wilee-nileeGuest33377, this is ubuntu support is anon ubuntu?08:14
tomodoorg.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart-multiple-users08:14
Guest33377DJones: yes it is08:14
wiherekthe machines will be intel i7 with 8gb ram, so 32 or 64 bit?08:15
wilee-nileeGuest33377, could you explain to root?08:15
DJonesGuest33377: If its the "Anon OS", thats not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, you'll need to get in touch with their own support08:15
Guest33377I am trying to DDOS my own teamspeak to test some filters08:15
DarwinSurvivorGuest33377: please provide a link to the project's website08:15
Guest33377Which project ?08:16
Guest33377Mine, or the OS ?08:16
DarwinSurvivorGuest33377: nvm, found the "Anon OS", that derivative (as DJones said) is not supported here, you will need to contact THEIR developrs08:16
Guest33377Okay, what about Backtrack 5 ?08:17
chuNot supported here either.08:17
Guest33377Because the anon developers are not reachable anymore08:17
wiherekrepeating, sorry - on intel i7s with 8gb ram for android development - which ubuntu version and 32 or 64?08:17
Guest333776408:17
DarwinSurvivorwilee-nilee: 6408:17
DJones!backtrack | Guest3337708:17
ubottuGuest33377: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition08:17
Guest33377Is Ubuntu good for testing secuirty08:17
chuSure.08:18
Guest33377Well what would I use ? SOme sort of python script /.08:18
Guest33377?08:18
DarwinSurvivorGuest33377: any linux os is, really, you just need to install the security-test tools. backtrack is a popular one, but all the tools can be installed on ubuntu as well (it just isn't done for you)08:18
Guest33377Thanks alot08:18
Guest33377I just purchased a dedicated server to test out some filters08:19
Guest33377Have you ever heard of Next Generation Gaming ?08:19
pcкруто08:19
DarwinSurvivorGuest33377: do you have a support question? if not, please use #ubuntu-offtopic08:19
Guest33377Have you ever heard of Next Generation Gaming ?08:19
Guest33377Ohh08:19
pcэто типа чат гигтег?08:20
DarwinSurvivor!ru | pc08:20
ubottupc: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.08:20
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DarwinSurvivorpc is that russian?08:20
pcyes08:20
Guest33377Okay, what tools should I use to then ?08:20
Guest33377Okay, what tools should I use to then ?08:20
pcкруто вообще)))08:20
pc\раньше пользовалсяwindows))08:20
Guest33377\jib08:20
DarwinSurvivorpc: this is an english channel. for help in russian, please use a russian loco's channel for support08:21
pcwhere my russian server? :)08:21
dr_willisGuest33377:  tools for what? and you may want to change nicks08:21
ikonia!ru | pc08:21
ubottupc: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.08:21
pcI need driver ATI video for ubuntu08:21
ChrisCroOkay08:21
DarwinSurvivor!ati | pc08:21
ubottupc: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:21
pc!ati | pc08:22
ubottupc, please see my private message08:22
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:22
dr_willisno one ever seems to actually read the bot messages. ;)08:22
chu`ping'08:22
pcwhy ubuntu slow than windows 7?08:22
pcdrivers video?08:22
goddardhow can i find out who maintains a package?08:22
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:22
dr_willispc i find it faster in many cases/benchmarks08:23
chu`show <package-name>' usually lists something like maintainers email.08:23
DarwinSurvivor!ati | pc please use this link08:23
ubottupc please use this link: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:23
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:23
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:23
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:23
FloodBot1ChrisCro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:23
DarwinSurvivor!patience | ChrisCro08:23
ubottuChrisCro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:23
KM0201lol, tha twas kinda clever08:23
KM0201DarwinSurvivor: lol, i think you missed his point08:24
pcwhere i can find russian chat?08:24
goddardis that apt-get show or something?08:24
dr_willisati and nvidia both sort of give linux drivers support as little effort as they can get away with it seems08:24
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:24
KM0201!ru | pc08:24
ubottupc: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.08:24
pci full noob in ubuntu)08:24
goddardchu: or you mean nhm?08:24
DarwinSurvivorpc: #ubuntu-ru08:24
chugoddard: Yeah, sorry. `apt-cache show' (doesn't need root privs)08:24
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:24
pcwhere i must to print this?08:24
KM0201pc: just type "/j #ubuntu-ru" w/o quotes08:25
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:25
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:25
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:25
FloodBot1ChrisCro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:25
dr_willisChrisCro:  most of us have you on ignore by now. you may want to reserch some security sites08:25
MyrttiChrisCro: please have patience, you don't get more people to answer your question by repeating it like that. Next one will get you removed.08:25
pcthank you08:25
spleenmanChrisCro: I think you should run an IRC server and ask your question over and over.08:25
DarwinSurvivorChrisCro: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for application suggestions, and STOP spamming this channel repeatedly!08:25
goddardwhats going on here?08:25
KM0201spleenman: lol, that response wins08:25
spleenmanTo answer your question, the simplest way to flood a server is with the flood switch with the ping program.08:25
FloodBot1ChrisCro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:25
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:25
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:26
ChrisCroSO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?08:26
chuBye08:26
pcI going to russian channel but message: Cannot send to channel08:26
spleenmanJust when I answered too08:26
pcCannot send to channel08:26
KM0201pc: its working fine for me08:26
dr_willisno big loss08:26
spleenmanobviously08:26
mosayebwhere is apt package database stored? i mean the files which are downloaded by apt-get update08:26
DarwinSurvivorpc: you may need to register your username with FreeNode08:26
dr_willismosayeb:  /var/cache/apt i think08:27
pcwhat is freenode?08:27
fidel_pc: this irc network08:27
KM0201pc: then network you're on08:27
KM0201!register | pc08:27
ubottupc: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode08:27
pcone minute,  i open translator ;)08:27
DarwinSurvivorpc: hmm, nvm, I can't send to it either08:27
DarwinSurvivorKM0201: they seem to have their channel locked (I'm registered and can't talk either)08:27
goddardI was thinking about helping package something or at least make sure we always have the latest version in the repos is that even possible in ubuntu?08:27
ttl-in 12.04 => sound settings: Selecting my bluetooth headset as input device makes sound settings crash, syslog shows: kernel: [ 3198.661585] gnome-control-c[8857]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fa606111da1 sp 00007fff633cf320 error 4 in libsoundnua.so[7fa6060f0000+31000]08:28
chuYep.08:28
KM0201DarwinSurvivor: i jsut said something, and it seems to have worked08:28
MyrttiDarwinSurvivor: you don't appear to be identified tho08:28
dr_willisgoddard:  make a ppa for whatever it is yuou want to package08:28
auronandace!latest | goddard08:28
ubottugoddard: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.08:28
pc#ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel08:29
DarwinSurvivorMyrtti: strange, my channel does show #ubuntu-unregged, but I have identified with NickServ, weird...08:29
goddardhow does a package get in the main repos?08:29
MyrttiDarwinSurvivor: well, you're not identified now.08:29
DarwinSurvivorgoddard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages08:29
DarwinSurvivorMyrtti: gah, must figure out why identification is not working :(08:29
pccannot send to channel what I should make?08:29
pcwhere in ubuntu config network?08:30
fidel_pc: you must be authed to speak in that .ru channel08:30
fidel_pc: please read the instructions made above08:31
pcwhy i cant to install official ati-amd driver fo video for ubuntu ?08:31
pcfile with resolution .run08:31
pc.run08:31
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goddardpc: get in run level 3 ?08:31
goddardtelinit 308:31
DarwinSurvivorpc: DO NOT use .run installers!!! 90% of the time they DESTROY linux computers!08:31
DarwinSurvivor!ati | pc08:31
ubottupc: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:31
DarwinSurvivorpc please use the instructions at on that link08:32
pchow i can to install video driver noting console ?08:32
goddardsudo service lightdm stop08:32
goddardchmod +x .run08:32
goddardsudo ./.run08:32
DarwinSurvivorgoddard: please don't advise users to install .run files, they are *extremely* dangerous, especially if you don't know where they came from!08:32
pcwhere i can to write command?08:33
spleenmannotice that you're giving anything in that .run file su access to your system08:33
pcwhere console?08:33
pcon ubuntu?08:33
DarwinSurvivorpc: please do not use the .run file. please use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:33
goddardafter you stop lightdm you will be at a command prompt08:33
brainwaveping brainwave08:34
goddardfor a package if it looks like the actual developer is the maintainer what does that mean?08:35
pcok, I established ubuntu, what I should make now?08:35
ttl-brainwave: Ping reply from brainwave: 0.23 second(s)08:35
fidel_pc: what do you mean by 'established'?08:35
spleenmanI would think it means that the developer is the one who is building the code and keeping it current in the repository08:35
goddardpc: pc buddy you should really watch a video tutorial or something08:36
goddardspleenman: so if the developer wants he can send an update to all the people that have it installed on ubuntu?08:36
pcestablished = install08:37
fidel_!elaborate > pc08:37
ubottupc, please see my private message08:37
goddarddoes jocky work with ATI drivers?08:37
spleenmanI don't know the specific procedure for package maintnence in the Ubuntu system08:38
goddardahh ok08:38
spleenmanDepending on what you mean by "maintainer"08:38
spleenmanAre you talking about a package maintainer or a developer-maintainer?08:38
goddardi just looked at the package maintainer08:38
goddardthe package maintainer is the developer in this case08:38
spleenmanSo in that case the developer is the one who creates new patches and pushes them into the live repositories08:39
spleenmanThat's what the maintainers do, in general, in addition to some other duties08:40
spleenmanhttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/08:40
anomCan anyone tell me why my cronjob isn't working? http://pastebin.com/12aEkkYN08:40
goddardok08:40
spleenmanThat is linked to by the ubuntu maintainer's manual, so I assume your questions can be answered there08:40
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danny_danny@shiela:~$ type cp    cp is hashed (/bin/cp) ......... what is hashed ?08:42
DarwinSurvivoranom: which one isn't working?08:43
anomDarwinSurvivor: none of them, as far as I can tell.08:43
DarwinSurvivoranom: what's with the quotes?08:43
anomDarwinSurvivor, Are they incorrect? I got them off a tutorial/guide08:44
AdvoWorkjust updated ubuntu, and in chrome i try and upload a file via a website, It keeps putting the files in old modified by date, rather than the latest at the top. I can click Modiifed which swaps it around, but it doesn't remember the setting. Any ideas please?08:47
scheurihi all08:49
spleenmandanny_: still here?08:49
danny_spleenman: yes08:49
yandex38Hello08:49
spleenmandanny_: that means the command "cp" has been stored in the bash commands hash table08:49
scheuriquestion: I installed 12.04 on VMware ESX with one network interface which is listed in ifconfig...then I added three more and rebooted the system, but they dont show up in ifconfig...someone can give me a hint what I am missing?08:50
spleenmandanny_: so the shell doesn't have to search through $PATH every time you run the command08:50
danny_spleenman: ahh ok that makes sense now thanks08:50
pc_п08:51
pc_как зайти на русский канал, если пишет cannot to send08:52
fidel_!ru > pc08:52
fidel_!ru > pc_08:52
ubottupc_, please see my private message08:52
pc_!ru08:52
Marzataно но08:52
kandinskiI'm having trouble coming back from suspend on my Lenovo x220, which I didn't have before Precise, anybody knows if it's a known issue?08:52
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.08:52
Marzataрусский канал не постоит08:52
kandinskibasically X is a black screen, and I can't see anything08:53
Marzataпишите здесь08:53
pc_lf gbie08:53
pc_да пишу08:53
pc_не получается08:53
fidel_pc_: stick to english inhere08:53
FloodBot1pc_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:53
Marzataпочему?08:53
pc_а вообще нахрена нужны эти каналы?08:53
pc_что они дают?08:53
scheurikandinski, did you try to press the power button after opening the lid again?08:53
fidel_pc_: there is a russion channel - we mentioned already what you have to do to be able to speak there08:53
Marzataну блин, пиндосы здесь только08:53
fidel_!register > pc_08:53
ubottupc_, please see my private message08:53
pc_нет, вообще я полный нуб08:53
pc_в убунту08:54
kandinskischeuri: I can see the cursor, so it's alive08:54
Marzatafidel_: that channel is closed08:54
fidel_Marzata: it isnt08:54
kandinskijust everything except th ecursor is black08:54
pc_я не понимаю что здесь как и зачем даже до конца не понимаю нафига я ее установил08:54
pc_с чего мне начать?08:54
FloodBot1pc_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:54
fidel_Marzata: i tested it 10 minutes ago - apart from that - this channel is english08:54
scheurikandinski, ah, okay....well sorry....I have a x220 as well, but have not yet installed precise...sorry I can not be of more help08:54
Marzatafidel_: try to post there08:54
fidel_Marzata: it works man08:54
kandinskischeuri: I am irc-ing from that sameself computer, only from a tty console08:54
pc_марзата08:54
kandinskior a console tty08:54
Marzatafidel_: this channel is international08:55
scheurikandinski, ah, so its "only" the X that is freezing?08:55
fidel_Marzata: you and pc_ are simply ignoring our advice how to be able to speak there08:55
pc_марзата почеум пишет cannot to send..08:55
kandinskischeuri: yes, the computer is working08:55
pc_fidel i dont understand you08:55
fidel_pc_: 3rd time - you must be registered in freenode08:55
Marzatafidel_: don't be that racist08:55
fidel_!register > pc08:55
fidel_!register > pc_08:55
ubottupc_, please see my private message08:55
kandinskischeuri: and usable, but I can't see anything on the X tty08:55
scheurikandinski, uhmm...maybe an issue with the intel driver? I do not know what version precise comes along with and if there is a newer one...08:56
pc_о08:56
pc_не получается, пишу /nick бесполезно08:56
fidel_Marzata: i'm not a racist - i am just trying to point out that there is a sense in the fact that channels try to focus on a specific language08:56
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scheurikandinski, and I am afraid I do not know what else might be connected with that issue (ACPI and such)08:56
kandinskischeuri: only tty7 is unusable08:56
Marzatafidel_: you are in fact, he is a new to linux. and yes, you are a racist.08:57
scheurikandinski, well, my guess is that after suspending the intel driver for the display/graphics has an issue....but that is just a gues08:57
DarwinSurvivor!english | Marzata08:57
ubottuMarzata: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList08:57
scheuriMarzata, he is a racist by pointing out that there are specific channels for specific languages which are better suited??? Please....08:58
fidel_Marzata: welcome to /IGNORE08:58
scheuriquestion: I installed 12.04 on VMware ESX with one network interface which is listed in ifconfig...then I added three more and rebooted the system, but they dont show up in ifconfig (they do in lspci)...someone can give me a hint what I am missing?08:58
devil_dodgerالسلام عليكم08:58
DarwinSurvivor!india | devil_dodger08:59
ubottudevil_dodger: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India08:59
Marzatascheuri: he is.08:59
pc_windows 7 more better than ubuntu08:59
pc_no head ill08:59
ikoniascheuri: if you do an ifconfig -a do you see them08:59
ikoniapc_: great, thanks, you're welcome to use Windows08:59
pc_no head pain08:59
ikoniapc_: do you need help with Ubuntu ?08:59
scheuriikonia, stupid me, yes...yes I do see them08:59
ikoniascheuri: there you go09:00
scheuriikonia, thanks a lot....mea culpa....the easiest step I missed09:00
kandinskiMarzata, first, learn not to call people names09:00
ikoniascheuri: not a problem09:00
kandinskisome people do racist thing sometimes, calling someone a racist is escalating unnecessarily09:00
ikoniaok - enough09:00
ikoniachannel is English ubuntu support discussion, anything else is not for this channel09:01
Marzatakandinski: first what?09:01
kandinskiMarzata: second, what everybody said. If I answered the queries of everyone who comes here talking Spanish, guess what?09:01
kandinskiikonia: finished09:01
kandinskischeuri: it bugs me having to restart09:02
Marzatakandinski: you mean proper Spanish from Latin America?09:02
kandinskiMarzata: nice try09:03
scheurikandinski, I absolutely understand....would bugging me too...but as I said...I dont have precise yet installed..but my best guess is a wake up issue with the drivers...09:03
kandinskischeuri: thanks09:03
kandinskiI will upgrade again09:03
scheurikandinski, sorry I was not of more help...maybe an update of the display drivers might do as well....09:03
kandinskibut having to restart makes me feel dirty, like I'm using windows or something09:04
ikoniakandinski: please don't be stupid, restarts are perfectly acceptable, linux needs restarts just as windows does09:05
kandinskiikonia, this is everytime I come back from suspend09:05
ikoniakandinski: yes ?09:06
moucheI went to file a misspelling bug, and the note on the reporting bugs page says those go under translations. In the linked translations section, it says that section is only for misspellings in languages other than English.09:06
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kandinskialso please don't call people names. I was joking, not being stupid.09:06
ikoniakandinski: then please don't joke around and slate Windows09:06
kandinskia restart everytime the laptop comes back from suspend is unacceptable. It is akin to not having suspend.09:06
ikoniakandinski: I agree it's not acceptable at all09:06
kandinskiactually, it's being more like one time in three. Still, not nice.09:07
* kandinski goes to restart09:07
kandinskibye for now09:07
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iIlL0oOhow to install fvwm on 12.0409:11
TBarthikona, normaly a linux system runs for years without any restarts. But ubuntu is no server system09:11
DarwinSurvivoriIlL0oO: just install it from the software center09:11
scheuriquestion: with aptitude we had the parameter search to go through the package list...any equivalent on apt-get? or on the console in general?09:12
llutzscheuri: apt-cache search pattern      or what do you look for?09:12
numbertoHi, how can I add skypetab-ng and pidgin to startup. ubuntu 12.0409:13
scheurillutz, well, as I said...with aptitude serach XYZ I was able to search the package database for XYZ...apt-get didnt have that and you are right...apt-cache is the keyword :)09:13
scheurillutz, thanks a lot09:14
DarwinSurvivor!startup09:14
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot09:14
iIlL0oODarwinSurvivor: then use lightdm or gdm ?09:14
DarwinSurvivoroh wow, that is *really* out of date....... :|09:14
DarwinSurvivoriIlL0oO: which-ever you are using, there should be a small icon next to your name, click on it and there should be a drop-down that will allow you to use fvwm09:15
iIlL0oODarwinSurvivor: thankyou , I'll try09:16
scheurithanks everyone for your help09:16
paopaoHelp! Is there any unofficial sources of Ubuntu, because the official support of Ubuntu10.10 is out of date.09:17
jribpaopao: why don't you upgrade to a supported version?09:17
paopaoAnd I can't update my system now09:17
DarwinSurvivor!eol09:17
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades09:17
devil_dodger /msg NickServ identify fchsgtdN1309:18
llutztime for a new password devil_dodger09:19
paopaojrib,Because I like this version, and it took a lot of time for me to decorate it, this version is just really good09:19
ikoniaTBarth: a linux system of any distro will require reboots09:19
jribpaopao: you're not getting security updates with it; you need to upgrade09:19
skylined101I need to install mysql 5.1 on ubuntu 12.0409:19
DarwinSurvivorpaopao: you are free to continue using it, however there are no longer ANY security updates for it (which is BAD for you) and a lot of the software (ex: gnome-2) is no longer supported either09:19
ikonia!info mysql-server09:20
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.5): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.22-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 11 kB, installed size 112 kB09:20
dr_willis'to decorate it'? you pur stickers on the case?09:20
ikoniaskylined101: mysql 5.5 is the release for 12.0409:20
skylined101i need to downgrade09:20
TBarthikonia, I expect from a linux system such as Ubuntu _LTS_, that I don't need to restart it each week.09:20
ikoniaskylined101: there isn't a release09:20
ikoniaTBarth: then your expectations are wrong09:20
paopao:'(09:20
paopaoSo there is no unofficial support?09:21
jribTBarth: generally a restart is only required when you get a new kernel09:21
ikoniapaopao: official support for what ?09:21
TBarthikonia, you re not a system administrator09:21
jribpaopao: no official support for 10.10, correct09:21
dr_willispaopao:  makes me wonder what 'unofficial support' would do exactly09:21
ikoniaTBarth: actually I am09:21
DarwinSurvivorpaopao: 10.04 is still supported (LTS) until 2015. it's 1 version behind what you have now, but it should have gnome-2 at the very least09:21
obelusdevil_dodger: please see your PM09:21
paopaoikonia, the sources of ubuntu09:21
ktchktry linuxcnc 10.04 lts rtai patched ubuntu09:21
ikoniaktchk: what ?09:21
TBarthikonia, may be a windows system administrator09:21
TranshumanistIf I install Windows after Ubuntu, will the GRUB bootloader be erased? I want to use WINE.09:21
ikoniaTBarth: no09:21
ktchkikonia: i am using it09:22
ikoniaTranshumanist: yes, you'll need to re-apply grub09:22
dr_willisTranshumanist:  you will need to reinstall grub. and wine does not need windows installed09:22
jribDarwinSurvivor: 10.04 is only supported until April 2013 on the desktop09:22
Transhumanistis that a difficult task?09:22
ikoniaktchk: so ? why are you telling us this ?09:22
dr_willis!fixgrub09:22
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:22
ikoniaTranshumanist: not really, but if you don't read the instructions it can go wrong09:22
yandex38jrib: Is that all? Windows XP was supported for wayyyy longer09:22
ktchkikonia: my 10.04 do not need reboot weeky09:23
yandex38It's bad that even an LTS only gets 3 years support09:23
DarwinSurvivorpaopao: oops, jrib is correct, it's only the server version that's supported until 2015, the desktop version is supported until april, 201309:23
TranshumanistThanks! What about things like DirectX? Does WINE need Windoze installed to use that in games? I thought WINE required some Windows files, but I am hazy on the details.09:23
KM0201yandex38: i thought the new LTS's got 5 now09:23
jribyandex38: do you have a support question?09:23
KM0201!lts09:23
paopaounofficial support means you can update by other sources which are made by some volunteers.09:23
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)09:23
TranshumanistI suppose the games would just use OpenGL09:23
ikoniaktchk: I know, ubuntu 10.04 doesn't need weekly reboots, I believe TBarth was being facicious09:23
richardlxchello09:23
yandex38jrib: Not at this time09:23
richardlxcmy wirless card don't work09:23
jribyandex38: ok09:23
dr_willisTranshumanist:  wind does NOT need windows installed anywhere on the system09:23
KM0201richardlxc: whats the chipset09:24
TranshumanistSweet.09:24
richardlxcKM0201: i use command "lshw -C network" and  *-network UNCLAIMED09:25
richardlxc       description: Network controller09:25
richardlxc       product: RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller09:25
richardlxc 09:25
DarwinSurvivorTranshumanist: if you find that wine does not work for you, you can also install windows inside a virtual machine (I do this for my school-required win32 stuff)09:25
richardlxc*-network UNCLAIMED09:25
Zitменя видно?09:25
richardlxchow to solve09:25
dr_willisTranshumanist:  how well wine works - will depend on what you want to run in wine also.09:25
TBarthikonia, in the last month of ubuntu 10 LTS I got a new kernel once a week09:25
richardlxcanyone can help me?09:26
ikoniaTBarth: I doubt that, but "ok", and to be honest if you did, that's an exception to th enorm09:26
TranshumanistWhat package do you recommend for installing Windows in a VM?09:26
DarwinSurvivor!ru | zit09:26
ubottuzit: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:26
TBarthLast friday I switched my desktop from Ubuntu 10 LTS to 12 LTS09:26
dr_willis!vbox | Transhumanist09:26
ubottuTranshumanist: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox09:26
Bylyhi09:26
TranshumanistExcellent!09:27
dr_willisTranshumanist:  if you are that set on 'windows' then you should just dual boot09:27
DarwinSurvivorTBarth: just because a new kernel is available, does not mean you have to use it. servers that are left on for years on end don't get their kernels updated (they are working on a fix for this though, I think fedora is experimenting with it)09:27
Zitа что здесь люди сидят?09:28
Bylyi have a problem with this command  "find . -mtime +2 -exec rm  {} \;"  allways try to delete the "." file but it cant because is a directory, the thing is that i dont want to delete it, i only want to delelete the files that was created 2 days ago....09:28
DarwinSurvivorZit: please use #ubuntu-ru for russian support09:28
oceaniciceHello, all.09:28
UltraSubHaii09:28
Transhumanistdr_willis: I hate Windows. But certain apps I need for university may not run under Ubuntu09:28
ZitDarwinSurvivor ubuntu-ru не работает!09:29
Transhumanistthe VM solutions sounds great09:29
richardlxcsudo lshw -C network *-network UNCLAIMED     description: Network controller09:29
richardlxc       product: RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller09:29
richardlxc 09:29
TBarthDarwinSurvivor, how can I exclude a kernel update when using the command "aptitude safe-upgrade"09:29
DarwinSurvivorByly: try specifying files only, or use * instead of .09:29
jribByly: -type f ?09:29
UltraSubWhy i cannot install open shot?09:29
dr_willisUltraSub:  any error messages?09:30
Bylythx for the answers, the thing is that the files was diferent names09:30
jenamithranhow can i install the brocken packages09:30
jribByly: what?09:30
DarwinSurvivorTBarth: I don't use the GUI updater, but I believe there is a simple checkbox. alternatively, you can install the new kernel and just not reboot, the old kernel will be left in until then09:30
jribjenamithran: be more specific...09:30
UltraSubGtk2-engine-pixbuf09:30
DarwinSurvivor!details09:30
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:30
dr_willisUltraSub:  you need to be a bit more verbose in your details...09:31
Bylythe option -f is for force, no? i i dont waht to delete the . file09:31
DarwinSurvivorByly: "-type f" means "only stuff that is of type 'file' "09:31
UltraSubI install using .Deb and an error message09:31
dr_williscan you delete the . file?09:32
DarwinSurvivordr_willis: um, that would be the current directory....09:32
wordToDaBird[Lapi have a windows 7 box with a virus on it.  I also have the drive partitioned with ubuntu.  I want to make an .iso image of the windows 7 box so I can start it in virtual box and analyze what the virus does.  Can I do that through/with software on ubuntu or do I have to make the iso image from within windows?09:32
jribdr_willis: depends how hard you try I imagine :P09:32
jenamithranjrib: there are some pakages interrupted while downloading how can itheresumed or removed09:32
Bylyah ok you said in find?09:32
jribjenamithran: pastebin exactly what is happening09:32
dr_willisUltraSub:  why use the deb? why not use the package manager.    you could try 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'09:32
DarwinSurvivorwordToDaBird[Lap: ok, that's 2 steps, so lets start with the first09:32
DarwinSurvivorwordToDaBird[Lap: how big is your windows partition and how much empty space do you have on your ubuntu partition (or an external HDD if that's what you plan to use)?09:33
wordToDaBird[LapDarwin4Ever, I have virtualbox setup already on another pc09:33
TBarthbtw, I ve still running servers (hp proliants) with debian sarge (behind a firewall of course, no restarts since 2006 :-)09:33
UltraSubI have no more repo. I only have ubuntu desktop 12.04 cd09:33
wordToDaBird[LapI can hold it on my external hdd and more than enough to hold the iso.  It'll be a pain in the ass to move around but I can do it.09:34
remoteCTRLma kubuntu somewhat totally ignores my file type associations?09:34
dr_willisUltraSub:  its connected to the internet?09:34
DarwinSurvivorwordToDaBird[Lap: ok, do you know how to back up the partition using dd?09:34
UltraSubNo internet connection09:34
wordToDaBird[Lapno, but I can figure it out.  two secs09:34
dr_willisUltraSub:  you should include such facts to begin with.09:34
Bylythx i think that it will be fix with find .  -type f -mtime +X -exec rm -rf {} \;09:35
dr_willisUltraSub:  if the .deb depends on other packages you need to install them all09:35
Zitа почему никт оне пишут в ubuntu-ru?09:35
wordToDaBird[Lap DarwinSurvivor tyvm, just found what I was looking for on google.09:35
Bylyi will test in 3 min09:35
jribByly: hmm, when is mtime update on directories?  Are you sure that's what you want to do?09:35
DarwinSurvivorwordToDaBird[Lap: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/home/my_username/windows_backup.iso"09:35
wordToDaBird[Lapthat was the magic phrase I was missing, wasn't thinking about using dd to do it.  didn't know it had any ability for writing .iso files09:35
UltraSubCan u show me what should i download to install any multimedia software?09:35
DarwinSurvivorwordToDaBird[Lap: check out https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows once you have the partition backed up09:36
wordToDaBird[Lapty09:36
DarwinSurvivorwordToDaBird[Lap: also, as soon as you get it transfered, take a snapshot of it with virtualbox, then you can roll it back if you need to09:36
llutzByly: find .  -type f -mtime +X -delete                    if you want to delete files only, why "rm -rf"?09:36
dr_willisUltraSub:  totally depends on the specific packages. id suggest hooking up to the internet somehow. otherwise you got a lot of work ahead of you09:36
Bylythx i think that it will be fix with find .  -type f -mtime +2 -exec rm  {} \;09:36
Bylysorry...09:36
Bylythis09:36
Bylybut i will test with -mmin +2 instead -mtime +2 in order that i can delete files that i created 2 min ago for test09:38
dr_willisi always test with -exec echo {}09:38
Bylyyeah its run09:39
Bylythx for your help09:39
UltraSubActually, i just want to install open shot on my ubuntu09:39
dr_willis!info openshot09:40
ubottuopenshot (source: openshot): Create and edit videos and movies. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 16025 kB, installed size 43611 kB09:40
dr_willisUltraSub:  i bet it will have a lot of dependencies09:40
MonkeyDustopenshot is nice to use09:40
dr_willisi need to find a tool that makes easy to just 'cut/split' movies into seperate files. i  got a lot of home videois i need to just cut apart. so i an sort the clips09:41
dr_willishaving to load/cut/paste/save/rename  - is a but of a bother on a 5gb movie file..09:41
Bylyi tested with files to be 100% sure that run, i created stupid 3 stupid files with a script...09:42
Bylyextra easy script....09:42
MonkeyDustdr_willis  openshot can do that09:42
DragonSlaywhat is 12.4% contiguous ?? fsck throws this o/p in boot screen09:42
dr_willisgot a 'cut here' and save both parts  button? ;)09:42
MonkeyDustdr_willis  it's called 'slice all clips', when you right click on the timeline's marker09:43
Zitкто нибудь играл в alan wake?09:43
dr_willisMonkeyDust:  so it can do all the cuts at once.. even better09:43
MonkeyDust!ru09:43
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:43
UltraSubShould i install gtk2-09:44
dr_willisUltraSub:  if the apps need it.. yes.  not sure what you are really asking .. the apps need what they need09:44
notzeif got a ubuntu vm running09:44
jenamithranjrib: i have some partial updates dueto the network fire wall how can i remove these partial updates09:44
notzeits nice09:44
jribjenamithran: you're being too vague for me to advise you.  I've asked you to pastebin the actual errors/messages you are seeing09:45
notzebut as soon as i add a bridge the ssh doesnt work anymore09:45
notzewhat can be the reason09:45
UltraSubYes, coz when i install openshot, the message is about that package09:46
dr_willisUltraSub:  it has dependencies it needs..so yes.. you need them ALL09:46
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UltraSubOk. Thanks.09:46
samuelis that linux on my samsung voria??09:46
dr_willisUltraSub:  i would guess it depends on severa dozen other pckges09:46
voRiasamuel: yes, it's me09:47
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samuelcool beans, i'd just like to say thanks for the ppa, you made it possible for me to run my n150 netbook on just everything from lucid up to present09:48
UltraSubNext problem for me : i cant play mp3 file. Error message is about phyton09:48
jribUltraSub: pastebin the actual error09:49
voRiaglad to hear that, you're welcome :)09:49
DragonSlay!ping09:51
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...09:51
UltraSubPhyton (v.2.7) requires to install plug in to play media file09:52
samuellong shot; does anyone knows about customising the visual appearance of unity? specifically the labelling of the desktop09:52
dr_willisUltraSub:  theres several packages you need to insgtall to get mp3 playback for various legal reasons09:52
UltraSubWhat package?09:53
samueli want to change the way that the desktop is labelled in unity, ie "ubuntu desktop" to something else09:53
dr_willisno idea. i let the package manager instgall them automatically at install UltraSub09:53
dr_willistheres a nice little check box when youi start the installer that lets the system download them.09:53
dr_willissamuel:  what label where?09:54
UltraSubHow about install another player such as Vlc player using. deb09:55
samuelin the top panel, when you are on the desktop, it says "Ubuntu Desktop"09:56
samueli want to change that09:56
TBarthsamuel, edit /etc/hostname09:56
UltraSubCoz my ubuntu is not connect internet09:56
samuelTBarth, thankyouthankyou!09:56
dr_willisUltraSub:  the way the pacakge system works will make that hard for you.09:57
dr_willisunless you spend a lot of time downloading .debs or have another linux system handy09:57
pkuHello and goodevening to all... its been since last night am trying to install my graphic drivers on my laptop without any luck can someone please help me out ?09:58
samuelpku, do you know what card you have?09:58
dr_willispku - your gfx chipset is? is it an optimus system?09:59
samueloptimus is a bit of a longshot, those are expensive!09:59
dr_willissamuel:  from what i gather they are getting more commonplace every month09:59
pkuVGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)10:00
dr_willisthey seem REAL common in here when someone mentions graphics problems10:00
samueloh dear, really? i havnt seen them for sale10:00
pkuam bigginger in ubuntu so ... :P10:00
samuelpku, i'm pretty sure those are loaded automatically10:00
pkuhow can i check it?10:00
samuelintel's drivers are open source so they tend to be included in the linux kernel10:00
pkucause i think its not10:00
dr_willispku:  whats the actual gfx problem you are having?10:01
codekKanyone is using ejabberd???10:01
firasdoes anybody in here use/have gnome 3?10:01
codekKfiras, i have what problem u have?10:01
dr_willisfiras:  12.04 came with gnome310:01
firascodekK: dr_willis: can u pastebin /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css  ?10:02
wordToDaBird[Lap!notunity10:02
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:02
dr_willisfiras:  nope. not on a ubuntu box right now10:02
dr_willis!find gnome-shell.css10:03
ubottuFile gnome-shell.css found in gnome-shell-common10:03
pkudr_willis gnome-shell-common10:03
pku* Stanley00 (~Stanley00@unaffiliated/stanley00) has joined #ubuntu10:03
codekKfiras, just reinstall gnome-shell10:03
dr_willisits in that package. if you need to reinstall it.10:03
dr_willis!find is-pku-a-bot10:04
ubottuPackage/file is-pku-a-bot does not exist in precise10:04
firascodekK: i did that with "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" but the problem wasn't fixed10:04
samuelok i have annother query, this time regarding light dm, can i customise the icons that ubuntu labels each session with?10:04
pkuam not a bot :/10:04
dr_willis;)10:04
codekKfiras, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell-common10:04
pkuam trying to figure out whats wrong lol10:04
dr_willisyou replied befor the bot did to my ! trigger10:04
pkulsmod | grep video shows me some thinks is it normal ?10:05
pkuuvcvideo               67203  010:05
pkuvideodev               86588  1 uvcvideo10:05
pkuvideo                  19068  1 i91510:05
dr_willissamuel:  each session is defined by a .desktop file  look in there and see if they have an icon setting10:05
InkHi10:06
firascodekK: thnx10:06
codekKfiras, u fix it?10:06
dr_willisi915 is an intel video chipset isent it?10:06
Inkcan some help a noob?10:06
samuelthanks dr_willis, i will check that out10:06
ikoniaInk: if you ask a question, we can try to help you10:06
codekKInk, write u problem, dont ask for help10:06
firascodekK: yes, it was messed up because i tried to add transperancy top the panel, do you have any idea how to do it?10:07
InkLRIGHT I DOWNLOADED UBUNTU ONTO MY LAPTO FOR A DUAL LOG AND IT WONT FIND MY DRIVERS10:07
codekKfiras, i dont use shell but i think is like gnome3 classic10:07
dr_willisitss amazeing how much people break when trying to 'tweak'  their themes/icons/look10:07
codekKu need ALT + right click on panel, then properities10:08
codekKand background10:08
dr_willisInk:  lower case please.. and drivers for what?10:08
firascodekK: ok thnx10:08
codekKfiras, np10:08
InkSORRY DIDNT REALISE i HAD HIT CAPS10:08
Inkstupid laptop10:08
Inkmy internet,10:08
dr_willisyou mean your wireless card?10:09
InkI tried everything according to my ubuntu using friends and it wont work10:09
Inkeven with ethernet cord it does work10:09
Wizard:D10:09
Inkdoesnt*10:09
dr_willisyou got deep issues if a wired connection dosent work.. or you just neeeded to activate wired connection in the network manager icon10:10
stuengid like to make a simple script which asked for two variables and then created another script containing these two variables. Anyone fancy helping me with this or point me in teh right direction ?10:10
pkudr_willis am trying to play diablo 3 from "playonlinux" and the debugginf console says that opengl does not exist any thought m8 ?10:10
dr_willis!abs | stueng10:10
ubottustueng: Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/10:10
codekKpku, are u use nvidia drivers? or noveau?10:10
pkuintel10:10
dr_willispku:  wine and games that just came out this week.. that may have oodles of copy protection in them.. is not a good combo10:10
stuengthanks.. I think, ill see how confused I get dr_willis10:11
pkuam pretty sure that many ppl play diablo3 from playonlinux10:11
samuelpku check what version of opengl diablo3 requires10:11
samuelit might be that the intel chip doesnt support that version of it10:11
pkusamuel 1 sec10:11
dr_willisno idea.  im not one of them10:11
InkI tried that Dr Willis,10:12
InkI am gonna come back with the laptop relogged10:12
dr_willisim so sick of the D3 marketing hype.. i dont even want the game. ;)10:12
HyperbyteHi.  Plantronics DA45 adapter for headsets crashes X on Ubuntu 12.0410:13
stuengif my script has a mkdir command and the directory already exists, by deafult will the script terminate?10:13
stuengwithout any error handling?10:13
HyperbyteI will file a bug report out this, but I would really like a temporary fix.10:13
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WizardIs there a possibility to integrate Java Swing with Globalmenu?10:14
dr_willisstueng:  make a  script that does it and see what happens10:14
pkusamuel i think its 3.010:14
stuengtrue10:14
pkuhow do i check if i have it and if i can use  it ?10:14
samuelnow what version does diablo require10:14
pkuits the diablo i think requires 3.010:14
wordToDaBird[Lapthe gnome-shell isn't in the normal apt-get repository is there a special repo I need to add to get it?10:15
llutzstueng: "mkdir -p"10:15
TBarthThe version 3 of games seems to very important in the momement: MassEffect 3, MaxPayne 3, BF3, D3... :)10:15
HyperbyteThis is the whole Xorg log file:  http://dev.hfive.nl/Xorg.7.log  If I read this correctly, the Plantronics DA45 crashes on the evdev module.10:15
LjL!info gnome-shell10:15
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ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 329 kB, installed size 901 kB10:15
LjLwordToDaBird[Lap: seems to be in the repositories to me, specifically in Universe10:15
wordToDaBird[LapE: Package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate10:15
HyperbyteIs it possible to disable the evdev module for this device only?  I wouldn't mind not being able to press the buttons, as long as I can use the audio device.10:15
dr_willisTBarth:  and here i am still playing fallout3 ;) and skyrim10:15
samuelits just a thought, cos i remember looking at the spec's of intel chips and noting that they do not support latest versions of directx or opengl, the latest opengl i think is 4.310:15
LjLwordToDaBird[Lap: what version are you on? do you have Universe enabled?10:15
stuengthanks llutz10:16
pkusamuel its the diablo 3 requires 3.0 how i chekc if i can upgrade ?10:16
samuelare you running this on a laptop?10:16
pkuyes10:16
Guest93877Hola?10:16
Guest93877I'm installing Xubuntu10:16
Guest93877To my netbook10:16
paopaoAre there any very very very serious problems if I didn't upgrade my Ubuntu to a new version?10:17
Guest93877Can use Sigala here?10:17
wordToDaBird[LapLjL, I just did apt-get update, I would think that would bring my repositories up to date.  Not sure how to check if I have universe as one that I am checking though10:17
paopao*don't10:17
Guest93877Sigala works in ubuntu?10:17
Guest93877._.10:17
Guest93877HELLO?:l10:18
pkusamuel yes it laptop10:18
dr_williswhats sigala?10:18
Guest93877Is a program10:18
Guest93877Sigala10:18
dr_willishow.. vague10:18
Guest93877Is like teamviewer10:18
Guest93877I use it10:18
Guest93877Whith guadalinex edu10:18
Guest93877In Spain10:18
dr_willisit has a linux executable/version?10:18
* Wizard looks at is cristall ball.10:18
Guest93877I dont know xD10:18
stuengcrystal10:18
WizardCrystal*10:19
stueng^10:19
Hyperbyte*his10:19
stuenglol10:19
Hyperbyte;-)10:19
ultrixxpaopao: at some point you will not get security updates anymore10:19
Guest93877I want it because10:19
WizardBah.10:19
stuengGuest93877: look for something called FreeNX10:19
Guest93877It work whit italc10:19
LjL!enter10:19
Guest93877..10:19
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:19
ink_back, so what should I be looking for to make ubuntu connect to the ethernet?10:19
Guest93877Sigala work with Italc.10:19
dr_willisGuest93877:  we can read more then  3  words per line....10:19
stuengink_: an ethernet cable?10:19
WizardGuest93877, Have you just tried to install it?10:19
ultrixxpaopao: and you will have to update firefox etc. yourself10:19
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ink_yes Stueng10:20
stuengink_: do you have a DHCP server on your network ?10:20
dr_willisGuest93877:   italc means? and theres no need to msg me...10:20
LjLi think he's referring to this thing - https://sites.google.com/site/manuales20/sigala10:20
ink_sorry I am a noob with linux idk what you mean stueng10:21
dr_willisi dont do much researching - when im on my cellphone like i am now. ;)10:21
stuengis there an italian ubuntu channel?10:21
LjL!it | stueng10:21
ubottustueng: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)10:21
stuengink_: what network are you connecting too?10:21
samuelhmm you might be right on the opengl requirement being the same, are you able to get graphics acceleration on your laptop?10:21
samuelthats to pku!10:21
ink_looks at you blankly10:21
paopaoultrixx, that's ok, i am just worried about being attacked by some virus.10:21
ink_my home network10:21
stuengink_:  right... do you have a DSL router or something?10:22
stuengink_: and what are you chatting to us from atm ?10:22
ultrixxpaopao: then you should keep your installation up-to-date10:22
dr_willispaopao:  biggest danger to a linux box i see on a daily basis   is the end user doing somthing silly10:22
ink_yes a DSL router10:22
dr_willispaopao:  but its still worth while to stay uopdated10:22
ink_and I am on my main10:22
ink_I need the laptop to run Linux10:22
samuelpku it says here http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/diablo-iii-system-requirements that you need a geeforce 260 / ati hd4870 or better to run it10:23
samueli think even the latest intel hd comes in below a hd4870 in performance10:23
stuengink_: on the the laptop, you have a cable plugged in? and the lights have gone green? (on the physcial ethernet port) ?10:23
paopaoultrixx, I mean if a new virus comes about, but i can't receive the update, then my Ubuntu would possibly be attacked10:23
stuengvirus? ubuntu? wut10:23
ink_yes cable is in, but the light hasnt gone green10:23
dr_willispaopao:  most likely itds not a 'virus' but some other exploit that may get your services10:23
ultrixxpaopao: if a new virus should appear that is capable of exploiting some weak spots in old ubuntus, yes10:24
stuengink_: does the ethernet port have a link light? that should go green? cos you need that to happen first10:24
ink_no it doesnt, and I know the cable works cause i ran it when I use the window part of my system10:25
ink_opps said a dirty word10:25
paopaoultrixx, well, it's really a hard choice for me, Ubuntu should support its old version10:25
ActionParsnipstueng: they do exist, just in labs10:25
stuengink_: its rare that an ethernet port doesnt have a link light10:25
samuelpku, try diablo 1 ;P10:25
stuengink_: have you used the ethernet port on this laptop before?10:25
paopaoultrixx, it upgrades so fast that i didn't even enjoy it....10:26
ultrixxpaopao: no, it would be a huge extra workload to support old versions forever. there is enough work to do to support the latest versions10:26
ink_yes10:26
MindSparkwoohoo, just upgraded to precise. Computer speed dropped to half and experienced two Xorg crashes so far. Oh, and the bug reporting system says it's damaged and cannot process10:26
stuengink_: and on the laptop if you issue from the terminal ifconfig do you see an adapter called eth0 ?10:26
ActionParsnipMindSpark: tried Unity2D session10:26
ultrixxpaopao: 12.04 is a lts version, which means you can stay updated for 5 or 7 years10:27
paopaoultrixx, maybe i don't have to upgrade, i just install an anti-virus software?10:27
ActionParsnipMindSpark: I'd always go for a clean install. Especially with LTS10:27
ultrixxpaopao: no10:27
ink_sorry stueng not sure what you mean10:27
ultrixxpaopao: that is the wrong way10:27
stuengyou dont know what a terminal is?10:27
ink_stueng no I dont10:28
psichasguys, Where i could find all linuxs' lifetime support?10:28
stuengink_: press ctrl+alt+t10:28
stuengtype sudo ifonconfig10:28
stuengifconfig10:28
ultrixxpaopao: and remember when you are on 12.04 you can stay there for a very long time10:28
ink_i typed ifconfig10:28
ink_is that alright10:28
MindSparkActionParsnip, if it crashes again, I'll delete the cache dir10:28
WaltherDoes anyone know how to install Ubuntu 12.04 from/through fai?10:28
stuengand do you see eth0 ?10:28
paopaoultrixx, i want to let you see my desktop10:28
ink_yeah and got nothing with eth010:29
ultrixxpaopao: why?10:29
stuengink_: what about lo ?10:29
ink_no10:29
paopaoultrixx, i think it's really nice, and that's why i don't want to upgrade10:29
stuengso what did you get? (blood from a stone this)10:29
ink_wait yes10:29
ink_lo    Link encap: local loopback10:29
stuengso you have information about lo but not eth0 ?10:29
ink_that whay you mean Stueng10:30
dillonjust configured compiz niiiiiiiiice10:30
ink_yes10:30
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ultrixxpaopao: on what version are you?10:30
stuengink_: Im fairly sure your problem exists beyond Ubuntu. The hardware of the laptop or the cable10:30
dr_willisstueng:  so basically you want to risk  an exploited systgem, so you can keep your current theme?10:30
stuengink_: check your BIOS to make sure the ethernet port is enabled10:30
ink_alright, can i get it set wirelessly, because I know that entire system workds10:30
stuengdr_willis: eh ?10:31
ink_idk how to check my bios10:31
paopaoultrixx, I am sending it to you10:31
dr_willisthat was for paopao10:31
dr_willis;)10:31
stuengfigured10:31
stuenganyone use freenx? Im finding it real sluggish10:31
* dr_willis cleans his bi-focals10:32
ultrixxpaopao: no, thanks10:32
ink_how do I check to see if an ethernet port is active?10:32
stuengVNC is quicker..10:32
dr_willisstueng:  try it with a desktop other then unity?10:32
paopao_well, ok10:32
stuengdr_willis: ive been asking how to change the default session from unity to xfce for two days now and I cant seem to get an answer lol10:33
ActionPa1snipstueng: what do you do on the remote system?10:33
stuengActionPa1snip: not sure, Im just doing it cos I can10:33
dr_willisstueng:  not sure for  freenx. last i tried it. it gave me the login screen i selected the desktop from10:34
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stuengsomething to do...10:34
dr_willisive had issues getting freenx working in the past. not tried it lately10:34
ActionPa1snipstueng: gotcha, no bad thing10:34
stuengits working in unity, just slow as hell and ive disabled composition already to get XBMC working quicker10:34
notzeafter adding a bridge to my eth0 i cant ssh from outside anymore has anybody any idea what can be the reason?10:34
stuengnotze: can you communicate with the device that you wish to SSH from, from the Ubuntu box?10:35
Ad0hi10:35
notzeyes i can ping both ways10:35
Ad0any idea how to recover a lost LVM volume due to a power outage? the RAID is fine (md) but the volume is just not there :(10:35
stuengnotze: i.e is the problem with the network or SSH10:35
Ad0lvdisplay etc shows every volume except that10:36
notzei think since i know it now :DD10:36
notzeits network10:36
wordToDaBird[Lapwhy can't I find gnome-shell?10:37
wordToDaBird[Laptsama@tsama-ThinkPad-Edge:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell10:37
wordToDaBird[LapReading package lists... Done10:37
wordToDaBird[LapBuilding dependency tree10:37
wordToDaBird[LapReading state information... Done10:37
wordToDaBird[LapPackage gnome-shell is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:37
FloodBot1wordToDaBird[Lap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:37
ActionPa1snip!info gnome-shell10:37
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 329 kB, installed size 901 kB10:37
ultrixxpaopao: you are at Wuhan University?10:37
WaltherHello! Does anyone know of a way to install Ubuntu 12.04 to multiple computers? We've used fai (fully automated install) before10:37
ActionPa1snipwordToDaBird[Lap: do you have Universe repo enabled?10:37
wordToDaBird[Lapmy bad10:37
wordToDaBird[LapActionPa1snip, I believe so, I just went and uncommented the lines10:37
ActionPa1snipWalther: could use clonezilla10:37
dr_willisclonezilla is handy10:38
wordToDaBird[Lapdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty universe10:38
wordToDaBird[Lapdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty universe10:38
wordToDaBird[Lapdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates universe10:38
wordToDaBird[Lapdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates universe10:38
FloodBot1wordToDaBird[Lap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:38
ActionPa1snipwordToDaBird[Lap: if you run:  apt-cache policy gnome-shell     do you see it listed?10:38
ActionPa1snipwordToDaBird[Lap: please DON'T do that, use a PASTEBIN for multiple lines10:38
wordToDaBird[LapI figured it would come on one line. my bad10:38
wordToDaBird[Lapor rather as one text block10:38
firasdoes a deb file contain the icon that appeares in software center, or does it come from a repository?10:38
WaltherActionPa1snip: Um, disk cloning probably isn't enough - we need a setup taht allows LDAP login10:38
Talisman`Workmoin10:39
ActionPa1snipWalther: clonezilla will just put the OS on the drives. You could setup a PXE server and boot the liveCD over the LAN10:39
wordToDaBird[LapActionPa1snip, installed none, candidate none10:39
ActionPa1snipfiras: the icon will be in the deb, it will probably be used in software centre too10:40
notzeits a network problem inside the vm. the bridge is not good configured so all responses get lost10:40
firasActionPalsnip: ok thnx10:40
WaltherActionPa1snip: How about the network configuration - if we just dd the drives, won't the network go crazy?10:40
Walthersimple example - hostnames10:41
Talisman`Workis there any way to easily rollback an upgrade? i.e. I want to go back to 11.10 - I'm finding that 12.04 is broken for a number of my packages.10:41
AbhijitTalisman`Work, no. you must reinstall 11.1010:41
LjLTalisman`Work: no10:41
vexaxvhey guys quick question on ubuntu 12.04  how do i edit my startup programs, like in windows it would be msconfig then the startup apps10:41
ActionPa1snipWalther: sure you can install over LAN but it will only happen once to get the install done10:42
Talisman`WorkOK, great.  then... if I reinstall 11.10 will it reinitialise my partitions?10:42
ActionPa1snipvexaxv: search dash for startup10:42
AbhijitTalisman`Work, in future you can use the concept of backup. you can take full system backup. using cp -R or something like that and then you will be able to restore backup points.10:42
AbhijitTalisman`Work, which partitions you have?10:42
vexaxvActionPa1snip, thanks man10:42
Talisman`WorkAbhijit lol... I don't do backups10:42
vexaxvanyone on here like desura?10:43
AbhijitTalisman`Work, dont lol. i have burned my hands on this joke that i dont take backups. take it seriously. backups are serious!10:43
tdnAfter installing recent updates (new kernel), my LUKS encrypted system does no longer boot. It says: evms_activate not available. If I boot the previous kernel, I do not get this error. How do I fix this?10:43
Talisman`WorkAbhijit I have an ext4 partition.10:43
codekKI have a ejabberd server with LDAP auth and a shared roster configure and running, the problem is when i want to show the "displayName" from LDAP as nickname on ejabberd client, it dont run automatically its need to push on user right click > get info then show the displayName as nickname but i need it automatically.... ¿anyone?10:43
AbhijitTalisman`Work, no. 'which' partitions you have? not the 'what' partition type you have10:43
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: part of the 11.10 install is to setup partitions so you can just mark the existing partitions for formatting and to be used for the same role, or you can wipe them out and repartition. Be sure you backup everything you need10:44
Talisman`WorkAbhijit I don't backup anything except my critical data/files... too much to backup if doing the whole OS everytime10:44
Abhijit / /boot/ home etc?10:44
AbhijitTalisman`Work, the whole os is much much less than our regular music and video files10:44
paopaohttp://imagebin.org/21339810:44
Talisman`WorkAbhijit I don't even bother with /boot... I just do what's in /home and whatever db directories required - the rest I rebuild.10:44
Talisman`WorkAbhijit I don't have music/videos on my systems10:45
firasi'm running gnome 3, i have kde also installed, but in gnome3 the apps list shows 2 icons of each app, and even shows executables with no icons10:45
AbhijitTalisman`Work, 11.10 wont do anything to your /home but / and /boot will b e modified10:45
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip can it be marked to not initialise the partition?10:45
paopaoI don't want to upgrade....10:45
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: sure you can partition and not set a mount point, you can even set it to not format the partition but use it as a mount opint, retaining the data10:46
Abhijitfiras, #gnome on irc.gnome.org10:46
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip that sounds more like what I want... thanks.10:46
AbhijitActionPa1snip, but he needs to partitions  the / ??10:47
tdnTalisman`Work, terminal > "sudo fdisk -l"  will shouw you which partitions you have.10:47
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: just read the screen and you'll be ok. If al else fails you can use your backups10:47
Talisman`WorkAbhijit it's already partitioned.10:47
AbhijitTalisman`Work, i mean format while installing the new os10:47
ActionPa1snipAbhijit: sure but if a seperate /home has been used you can mark it to be used as /home but not formatted10:47
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip rofl.  yeh.. I'll cp my data to my portable tonight.10:47
AbhijitActionPa1snip, yes right10:48
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: you'll need to mark the partition for / to be formatted10:48
Talisman`WorkAbhijit ideally I don't want to initialise the partitions at all.10:48
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: I suggest you do it more regularly10:48
Talisman`Worksimply install 11.10 over the existing setup.10:48
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip I'm not to worried about it.  but thanks for the concern - you and Abhijit both :-)10:49
inkhello again, so I have another question10:49
Talisman`WorkIt's not a production system by any means10:49
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip, Abhijit : thanks for your assistance - much appreciated :-)10:49
inkthe ethernet ports work fine on my system as windows, do I need to manually down and bring them all over onto the ubuntu system to get it to work with the internet?10:49
evilgeeniusIs anybody here not a fan of Unity's fading menus?10:50
* Talisman`Work hates gnome in general10:50
firasi'm running gnome 3, i have kde also installed, but in gnome3 the apps list shows 2 icons of each app, and even shows executables with no icons          (no answer at gnome irc)10:50
Talisman`Worktoo bad fubuntu isn't more active10:51
Talisman`Workimho, fluxbox ftw10:51
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox10:51
stuengink: what do you mean by down and bring them all over?10:51
Talisman`Workbut... that's all subjective10:51
AbhijitTalisman`Work, welcome10:51
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip I may just do that.10:51
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: there used to be fluxbuntu too (unofficial of course)10:52
Abhijitevilgeenius, i am not a fan of unity at all. does that count?10:52
stueng!fluxbox10:52
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox10:52
inkwell if te ubuntu isnt seeing them, do they have ti be manually loaded onto ubuntu system since its partitioned from the windows system?10:52
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: minimal + fluxbox + slim = about 1.3Gb installed :)10:52
stuengwhy not xubuntu ?10:52
Abhijitfiras, have you tired the channel i suggested?10:52
evilgeeniusAbhijit: you don't count10:52
Abhijit:-(10:52
thauriswulfaHELP: I ran a second x-session last time now I am not able login or start any x-session? only guest account is working.Any idea about what should I do?10:52
firasAbhijit: yes u did10:52
evilgeeniusAbhijit: you shouldn't be here10:52
firasAbhijit: i mean, yes I did10:53
Abhijitevilgeenius, :-o10:53
ActionPa1snipstueng: fluxbox doesn't need a DE :)10:53
Abhijitfiras, ok10:53
bazhangevilgeenius, stop that10:53
Talisman`WorkActionPa1snip :-D  I've been using fluxbox on gentoo for about 7 years now - from the 2004.1 release.  never looked back...10:53
evilgeeniusbazhang: stop what?10:53
bazhangevilgeenius, attacking others, being offtopic10:54
ActionPa1snipTalisman`Work: I'm an lxde kinda guy :). Fluxbox is badass though10:54
gh0ulNo ratpoison love?10:54
Talisman`WorkI'm using ubuntu on my laptop, however, and it came with gnome :( - I managed to install fluxbox, as well as e1710:54
inkstueng?10:54
evilgeeniusAbhijit: I apologize for my sins10:54
Talisman`Workgh0ul can't say I've tried ratpoison though ...10:54
gh0ulI don't use it anymore. a KDE 4 man now10:54
gh0ulBut did use it for years10:55
evilgeeniusbazhang: I can't see how saying "you shouldn't be here" is any kind of attack.10:55
Talisman`Worke17 is a very nice bling desktop... too bad Raster won't commit to releasing it...10:55
sk1specialcan you partition the drive that is in use ?10:55
stuengshould fluxbox work over freenx ?10:55
firasi'm running gnome 3, i have kde also installed, but in gnome3 the apps list shows 2 icons of each app, and even shows executables with no icons10:55
thauriswulfaHELP: I ran a second x-session last time now I am not able login or start any x-session? only guest account is working.Any idea about what should I do?10:55
Talisman`Workstueng fluxbox only needs Xwindows to work10:55
Abhijitfiras, maybe try askubuntu? there you may get better help10:55
sk1specialtrying to install windows on a seperate drive but it says it needs to use some of my main one ( the one i have ubuntu on ) but that it needs to be partitioned/seperately formatted for windows..can i partition this drive using gparted while running ubuntu?10:57
Talisman`Workgh0ul I find kde to be too heavy (ram/diskspace) for my liking.10:57
Talisman`Worksk1special why not install windows in a virtual machine?10:57
Talisman`Workno partitioning required.10:57
gh0ulTalisman`Work: it's 2012..10:57
Abhijitsk1special, yes you can partitions drive using gparted while logged on in ubuntu. but you need to unmount that partitions.10:58
gh0ulI can hold 1000 kdes on my hard drives, and have enough ram to run it 10 times...10:58
gh0ulI'm all past that lightweight thing :)10:58
Talisman`Worklol10:58
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angel279Hello, I've some issue with the apache server, .htaccess file not working? any idea?10:58
sk1specialTalisman: i have windows installed allready..its just broken so i want to delete/reinstall it. but cant with out yeah.10:58
bazhanggh0ul, lets get back on topic10:58
gh0ulruns really smooth on my machine, and it's really not a top one...10:58
ActionPa1snipgh0ul: it doesnt do a song and dance to get where it needs to be, you click and it goes10:58
gh0ulbazhang: is there a topic? we were talking about window managers?10:58
ActionPa1snipgh0ul: topic == support10:59
sk1specialabhijit: ah okay.. its not gonna kill anything when i do it right? and how to unmount? just right click unmount like for the secondary?10:59
bazhanggh0ul, yes. ubuntu support. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic10:59
Ad0any idea how to recover a lost LVM volume due to a power outage? the RAID is fine (md) but the volume is just not there :(10:59
gh0ulok, is there an ubuntu talk channel where I don't get threatened with a +b for talking?10:59
gh0ulok then10:59
gh0ulbai10:59
Abhijitsk1special, yes right click -> unmount.10:59
inkdear linux I hate you Love Ink,10:59
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inkthanks guys10:59
ActionPa1snip!away > CoM`oFF|Disconn10:59
ubottuCoM`oFF|Disconn, please see my private message10:59
sk1specialabhijit: said cannot unmount most likely..something with other partitions must do manually11:00
sk1special. most likely other partitions are mounted on this point*11:01
Abhijitsk1special, which partition is that?11:01
sk1special/dev/sdb1  main one11:02
Abhijitno i mean whats the mount point?11:02
Abhijityou can not unmount / and /home11:03
Abhijitwhile logged on that is11:03
sk1specialyeah  its /11:03
crescent_sunI am trying to install 12.04 LTS Server and even though I download the i386 version it says that the kernel is for a 64 bit CPU..11:03
sk1specialso how do i do this lol?11:03
Abhijitsk1special, if you re partitions this  / your current ubuntu will be gone. do you know this?11:03
ActionPa1snipcrescent_sun: then you got the 64bit ISO11:03
sk1specialAbhijit: no .. tear. is there a way to partition this drive that wont kill ubnutu?11:04
sk1specialubuntu*11:04
stuengto start fluxbox do you just install it and then run "fluxbox" from terminal to start X etc?11:04
Abhijitsk1special, no. however you can resize / (with caution and on your own responsibility) that will give you free space11:05
ActionPa1snipStevenR: i believe it's 'startfluxbox'11:05
stuengah ok11:05
sk1specialAbhijit: is it that dangerous ? and would that new free space be formattable?11:06
Abhijitsk1special, and fore that resizing you need to be in the live session mode or use http://partedmagic.com/doku.php11:06
crescent_sunActionPa1snip: so I guess that  ubuntu.com says that you can download a 32-bit iso but it is really a 64-bit iso11:06
crescent_sunshould I report this anywhere?11:07
Abhijitsk1special, one hdd can have only 4 primary partitions. beyound that you can not create new partitions. but you can have as many as possible extended partitions11:07
ActionPa1snipcrescent_sun: if you suspect one then yes11:07
Abhijitso in this case if  you have crossed that limit of 4 primary partitions then you can not format that new extra free space11:07
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sk1specialAbhijit: no i have 3 partitions i guess that ubuntu itself created when i installed it.. and i have a seperate hdd that has one plus some unallocated space,11:08
Abhijitsk1special, yeah then you may be able to format that new extra free space11:09
sk1specialwhen i went to reinstall windows..it said i need to create a partition for it to use to save some stuff on my main drive ( the one with ubuntu on it )11:09
Abhijithmmm no idea about that. not used windows in past 3 years11:09
sk1specialAhjiti: idk ive always has issues when not install windows on the primary.. one hdd is ide.. one is sata..do you know how i could make the sata second and the ide primary?  and would that mess up ubuntu?11:11
Abhijitsk1special, no idea about any windows issues. try ##windows11:11
Abhijitsk1special, making something parimary and something else secondary wont harm ubuntu11:12
ActionPa1snipsk1special: if you delete a partition (which will destroy the data), you can then install to the empty space11:12
stuenganyone know how to stop Ubuntu from starting a GUI upon boot ?11:12
sk1specialabhijit: not windows.. more hardware. id know how to use jumpers between ide drives..but it didnt work like that for me for sata vs ide.11:13
ActionPa1snipstueng: add the boot option:  text11:13
stuengActionPa1snip: whats that mean :)11:13
Abhijitsk1special, i dont understand what you mean11:13
abhinavmehta_can someone please provide me good-link to read "how to manually configure wireless, without NetworkManager for RT2651 card" ??11:14
sk1specialAction: whats up  yeah.. but i have two working partitons with space on them..one being ubuntu that i dont want to loose..and the other being windows that wants me to use ubuntus hdd11:14
ActionPa1snipstueng: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub    and find the line with:  quiet splash     and change it to:   quiet splash text11:14
abhinavmehta_googled..but couldn't found any good one.11:14
ActionPa1snipstueng: save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub11:14
Fat-Thinghow can i make a back up on my ubuntu 10.04 desktop?11:15
ActionPa1snip!backup11:15
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning11:15
stuengActionPa1snip: this will stop X from starting but I can still start it manually by starting xfce, gnome etc?11:15
ActionPa1snipstueng: yes, you can start the desktop if desired11:15
sk1specialAbhijit: i have two internal HDD's , ones connected via IDE cable.. one via  SATA .. the sata is reading primary..the ide secondary ,  windows being on the ide , ubuntu on the sata , windows has to use the sata for some files since its the primary hdd , if i could change that, itd be good11:16
stuengk, rebootin ty11:16
ActionPa1snipstueng: thats how you add boot options in Grub211:16
crescent_suncan someone ( or even a bot) tell me where to report issue with downloaded 32-bit server version on ubuntu.com?11:17
Abhijitsk1special, hmm ok. cant help here. ask windows people11:17
ActionPa1snip!bug | crescent_sun11:17
ubottucrescent_sun: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.11:17
sk1specialAbhijit: ah mmk. thanks for the advice tho11:17
stuengActionPa1snip: when I try start xfce now I get cannot connect to display11:18
NovemberRainhi11:19
NovemberRaingidersen sevgilim yashayamam..11:19
stuenghow to copy recursivley? cp * -R /destination/ ?11:20
ikoniastueng: cp -R $directory /$newlocation11:20
WaltherDoes anyone know how to install Ubuntu 12.04 through fai?11:20
ikoniafai ?11:20
WaltherFully Automated Install11:20
ikonianever even heard of it11:21
Waltherserver-based mass installation thingy11:21
stuengikonia: I want to copy the contents of wher eI am now (pwd)11:21
ikoniaI've done it through kickstart which is fully automated11:21
ikoniastueng: cp -R .11:21
stuengso cp -R /newlocation ?11:21
stuengoh11:21
ikoniastueng: cp -R . /$newlocation11:21
stuengcp -R . /newlocation/11:21
stuengkk11:21
stueng-v for verbose?11:22
* vlt googles kickstart11:22
ikoniastueng: man cp for the flags11:22
ActionPa1snipstueng: run:  sudo service lightdm start11:22
sk1specialis there a hardware channel? please dont bot list me.. the channel list kills my chat for somereason im not worried about atm11:22
ikoniask1special: ##hardware11:22
sk1specialobviously. t/y11:22
stuengActionPa1snip: thanks, but now I am back in Unity. Is it not possible to just launch gnome / xfce / unity / fluxbox from the terminal ?11:23
stuengsudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf11:26
stuengseems this is what I am looking for11:26
ActionPa1snipstueng: it will pickup your user's default session afaik, you'll need a different command to get the other DEs etc11:26
aaais there a way to downgrade 12.04 to 11.04?11:27
WaltherCan anyone help me with installling multiple computers through fai/kickstart/something?11:27
WaltherWe have a computer lab, and we do have servers which we can use to automate the installs11:27
WaltherWe also need LDAP-based login on the computers11:27
stuengaaa if you approach the speed of light time will slow down, maybe even stop. Perhaps if you exceed the speed of light you can go backwards in time? Yes you can downgrade, how I Dunno, but people are doing it a lot round here11:28
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stuenghttps://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=revert+from+ubuntu+12.04+to+11.10&oq=revert+from+ubuntu+12&aq=0&aqi=g1&aql=1&gs_l=hp.3.0.0.0.0.1.31.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.eish.1.0.0.QsDfKO4b2Co&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=53c6ba48570c9bd5&biw=1396&bih=86011:28
ActionPa1snipaaa: reinstall is the only way11:28
GoodByeMegatonhello11:29
GoodByeMegatonwould anyone of you show me the version of Mesa you have in current release ?11:29
stuengaaa: when you re-install you will have the option to preserve your data, settings etc11:29
McFaggotIs it possible to get that OS X Lion feel in Natty?11:29
ActionPa1snip!info mesa11:29
ubottuPackage mesa does not exist in precise11:29
aaathanks11:29
GoodByeMegatono.O11:29
GoodByeMegatonwhat11:29
ActionPa1snip!info mesa-utils11:30
ubottumesa-utils (source: mesa-demos): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 26 kB, installed size 132 kB11:30
GoodByeMegatonActionPa1snip: great, that's what i wanted11:30
GoodByeMegatonthx11:30
stuengwhats a paisnip11:30
bazhang!ot | stueng11:31
ubottustueng: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:31
stueng:o11:31
McFaggotHow to theme Natty to be like OS X Lion?11:31
GoodByeMegatonMcFaggot: no, ubuntu (and generally) linux is class faster then os x (emulating smp - yes) so you won't experirence unresponsive desktop and spinning rainbow circle the most of the time11:32
GoodByeMegaton(and generally linux)11:32
johnfHas anyone installed precise on a Macbook6,2? I'm getting corrupted video after the purple screen when booting the installer11:32
ActionPa1snipMcFaggot: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/make-ubuntu-look-like-mac-osx-in.html11:32
McFaggotGoodByeMegaton: I was talking about theming.11:32
ActionPa1snipjohnf: what GPU do you use?11:32
McFaggotActionPa1snip: That's like from 2010, and Leopard or Snow Leopard.11:33
johnfActionPa1snip: Currently have oneiric on it using nvidia. Trying to do a fresh install of precise11:33
ActionPa1snipMcFaggot: there are similar guides online11:33
ActionPa1snipjohnf: then add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=111:34
GoodByeMegatonjohnf: put into grub nomodeset11:34
GoodByeMegatonand powercycle11:34
johnfthanks guys11:34
ActionPa1snipMcFaggot: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKu6mM9XqNc11:34
sk1specialother q can you install and or run ubuntu on a hdd connected via usb?11:34
stuengyes11:35
GoodByeMegatonjohnf: test first nomodeset .. use ActionPa1snip's blacklisting as the last resort11:35
stuengyou can install ubuntu on a usb stick if u want11:35
McFaggotActionPa1snip: Looks interesting. I sure wish there was one especially for OS X Lion..11:35
ActionPa1snipMcFaggot: this is literally al I am doing: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=make+ubuntu+look+like+mac+lion&kp=111:35
VivekanandaHello everyone , cron is giving me a lot of problems and I have not used script for it but just a cron. I am trying to run rsync with it but it is not running simple command also ---http://pastebin.com/S3iDMtJn11:36
sk1specialah mmk ..yeah i had it on the usb for awhile..but like win let me do that but couldnt use a usb cable hdd idk why. t/y tho11:37
Orpheonhey11:38
OrpheonFor some reason, I'm missing some files that should come in nvidia-current. I tried reinstalling the package, even installing other ones, didn't work. Any ideas what could be the cause or better, a fix?11:39
stuengyou are using unity Orpheon ?11:39
OrpheonThe file in question is libvdpau_nouveau.so11:39
Orpheonyes11:39
stuenghappy to use propietry drivers?11:40
Orpheonyes11:40
stuengif you click the start button thing and type drivers you will get the propietry driver installation tool11:40
Orpheonyes11:40
Orpheonthat's how I installed it11:40
stuengyou should see two versions11:40
ActionPa1snipstart button ...... hahaha11:40
thauriswulfaHELP: xfwm4 is running but there are no compositing effects http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05222012-050822pm.php11:40
stuenglol whats it called ActionPa1snip ?11:40
Orpheondash button or something would have been my guess11:41
ActionPa1snipstueng: easier to just open a terminal and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current11:41
Orpheonor dash launcher11:41
McFaggotActionPa1snip: duckduckgo? come on..11:41
stuengOrpheon: I installed the latest unstable release, then switched back to the stable one and it resolved my issues11:41
madzikHello everyone i installed pj sip user agent and when i run the test wizard i get "no audio device" error message, any idea how to fix that?11:41
ActionPa1snipMcFaggot: what do you mean?11:41
Orpheonstueng: Strange, because I did that too, and it didn't help11:42
McFaggotActionPa1snip: Weird search engine, that's all.11:42
ActionPa1snipMcFaggot: what? just because it's not google?11:42
Orpheonalthough right now I think I'm following the xorg PPA11:42
Orpheonthe stable one11:42
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McFaggotactionParsnip: Maybe..11:42
stuengif its not on google it doesnt exist11:42
actionParsnipMcFaggot: there are lots more search engines than just google, dude11:43
* actionParsnip doesn't like being bubbled11:43
VivekanandaI also tried troubleshooting cron from this site but not getting anywhere --- http://askubuntu.com/questions/23009/reasons-why-crontab-does-not-work11:43
OrpheonactionParsnip: I don't think there is any that can match google though11:44
ikoniaMcFaggot: most of the OS-X driven themes for linux have stability issues due to the way the desktop works (being honet)11:44
actionParsnipOrpheon: well I help many on here and loads on launchpad forum and I don't use google11:44
ikoniahonest11:44
McFaggotactionParsnip: Is it because some users are paranoid that Google might track whatever they do?11:44
Orpheonah ok11:44
spartan2276How can I fix this error(http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1000667/)?11:44
actionParsnipMcFaggot: its not tracking, its being bubbled11:44
prodigelhi all. I'm looking for a simple way to match any .localhost domain to my local machine. I saw that hosts file is not accepting regex, can I do this easily with BIND? no experience whatsoever ...11:44
actionParsnipOrpheon: exactly11:44
OrpheonactionParsnip: Not saying it's the only one, and I'm fine with it if you're not using it, but I still think it's the best11:44
ikoniaspartan2276: the symlink it's trying to make already exists11:45
Orpheonat least, I haven't met a better one yet11:45
actionParsnipOrpheon: the way it gets results ristricts results and may hide pags which give what you need11:45
ikoniaprodigel: sorry, what do you want to do ?11:45
spartan2276ikonia, I have zero clue as to how to fix it11:45
uuserhi all. can someone gives me an hint about the reason why if i run update-grub from two different installation (sda1 and sda2) it has effect only in one case? thanks.11:45
McFaggotactionParsnip: Okay, if you say so.11:45
actionParsnipMcFaggot: if you knew how google filtered your results...11:46
spartan2276ikonia, because of this my system won't update11:46
prodigelikonia, I want to find a way to avoid cluttering my hosts file each time I define an apache virtualhost11:46
McFaggotactionParsnip: Filtering? Like what?11:46
actionParsnipMcFaggot: go to the duckduckgo site, it tells you. I thought you'd know. you sounded all informed and stuff11:46
bazhangactionParsnip, lets move on please11:46
prodigelikonia, a dns server would do probably, but I have no idea how to install/configure one11:46
McFaggotactionParsnip: I am, I'm just making conversation.11:47
bazhangMcFaggot, wrong place for it. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat11:47
mosayeb_how can i update only a specific repository?11:47
McFaggotbazhang: I am terribly sorry. Please forgive me, your highness.11:48
uusercould it be because grub has been installed in one partition intead of the mbr?11:48
Chris-CHi all. I have an Acer Aspire 5733. The brightness controls do not work. Is there any kind of third party apps that can do that for me? I have searched all around Google and no one seems to have a solution that works for me.11:50
DottorLeohi!11:51
DottorLeoi've installed the new kernel 3.411:51
DottorLeobut now the wireless doesn't work anymore because it says that the switch is hard locked11:52
DottorLeoi haven't change nothing11:52
bazhangDottorLeo, installed from where11:52
DottorLeoafter the upgrade11:52
DottorLeoppa kernel.ubuntu.com11:53
actionParsnipDottorLeo: not supported here11:53
bazhangDottorLeo, contact the ppa maintainer then, it s not supported11:53
duryhi there dudes :-)11:53
stuengI did sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and changed user-session=xfce but upon reboot I still get unity?11:53
spartan2276How can I fix this error(http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1000667/)?11:54
stuengThe Paste you are looking for does not currently exist.11:54
DottorLeooh ok. kernel.ubuntu is not official from Ubuntu team?11:56
stuenghttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1000667/11:56
durymy question is: would it be fast enough if I install it in a Vmware. the box is having 4 GB RAM with 200 GB Hard Disk and the processor is Intel i511:56
bazhangDottorLeo, PPA are not supported, kernel or otherwise11:56
stuengdury: yes11:56
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DottorLeook11:57
actionParsnipDottorLeo: its from a PPA, we cannot support PPAs here11:57
gusnnbshey11:57
durystueng: sure?11:57
WizardBad Microsoft had to call step by step dialog box a wizard and now everybody hilights me :(11:57
stuengdury: yeah, that spec is plenty11:57
stueng1ghz, 1gb ram, 5gb HDD will do you fine11:57
durystueng: right I see11:58
ChesterXhello everyone, is there anyway to install other DEs (xfce & kde) without the application packages that come with it?11:58
stuengdury: my media computer runs off an atom 1ghz cpu with 2gb ram and 20GB SSD. it plays 1080p silkly smoothe11:58
durystueng: but consider that it's in virtual machine11:59
durystueng: Vmware11:59
stuengyeh thats fine man, an I5 will kick Ubuntu ass11:59
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vltWizard: My name is a common abbreviation in chats of my native language :(12:00
stuengdury, have you looked at Wubi ?12:00
Vivekanandano one12:00
durystueng: right... really appreciate your suggestions12:00
Wizardvlt, :(12:00
durystueng: thanks indeed12:01
elspuddywhats an easy way of backing up a mac hard drive in ubuntu ?12:02
stueng!backup12:02
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:02
ilogicalL3top: I am afraid the problem is back, and I can't change to any tty and go back12:02
vltHello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?12:03
elspuddythanks stueng12:03
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ChesterXis it possible to install the xubuntu-desktop package from the xubuntu cd? or do i have to download the package via the software center?12:04
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durystueng: could you tell me the Wubi url for that, please?12:05
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stuengdury: what?12:05
krababbelChesterX: probably, reenable the cd source in software center12:05
stueng!wubi12:05
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe12:05
durystueng: thanks12:06
stuengwubi is an awesome way to try ubuntu12:06
ilogicalL3top: now I can't manage to use the system to get help, I am on another windows computer12:07
freakolowskyaloha ... got two questions  ... does 12.04 use gconf or dconf?12:08
ChesterXkrababbel, does it work with both the "normal" and the alternate cd?12:09
dritharashtrahi12:10
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Fat-Thingim having a problem with my youtube video....everytime i'll open new video i have to refresh the page so that it will load and display the video any solution for that?12:14
krababbelChesterX: don't know, probably alternative, if there is that desktop, never used alternate12:14
krababbelif it's on the cd, it will work12:15
SnowieHi all. how is 12.04 goin12:16
ChesterXkrababbel, ok. in this case i don t have to download the alternate cd ^^ (lessen the usage of bandwith is always a good thing) thanks12:17
SnowieMy real question is, will upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 improve or reduce performance/capability for12:20
SnowieVGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series]12:20
Snowieat best atm I run 2d desktop12:20
Snowieso i assume that means i have no hardware acceleration12:21
LantiziaHey I mount an sftp share using fstab - but this one host i'm connecting to doesn't do public key auth so its password only - any way to automate this?12:21
crizisit has newer proprietary driver, so should work better12:21
crizisSnowie: also you can install fgrlx-updates or somesuch package to get newer proprietary driver12:21
hje841From Ubuntu 11.10 I'm trying to connect to an external MySQL database with php through my localhost (Apache2), but I keep getting 'Unknown MySQL server host'. the ip is correct, but no joy12:21
crizisi have 6870 myself without any probs12:21
hje841any ideas?12:21
Snowiecrizis: are you managing 3d desktop? if so, what driver setup have you got, and how can i tell what im running. it was so long ago with so many hassles i cant really remember12:22
actionParsniphje841: can you ping the IP?12:23
hje841actionParsnip, yes12:23
crescent_suncan someone show me some simple code for using the trigger function on jquery?12:23
hje841I've found a possible solution by using SELinux, but that didn't work12:24
ubuntu_64bitlink for ubuntu installlation inside windows microsft12:26
e2b04836!wubi |ubuntu_64bit12:26
ubottuubuntu_64bit: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe12:26
KM0201ubuntu_64bit: it's not really the best way to install Ubuntu... just partition your drive and install...12:26
Fat-Thingim having a problem with my youtube video....everytime i'll open new video i have to refresh the page so that it will load and display the video any solution for that?12:27
KM0201Fat-Thing: html5?12:27
LinuxMonkeyhje841: is it a website your trying to build from scrach using php or is it a cms like wordpress or joomla. i'm thinking you have non Ubuntu issues.12:28
wordToDaBird[Lapi had been avoiding upgrading my ubuntu box for a while, i just installed 11.04, I have to go to 11.10 then to 12.04 or can I can straight?12:28
Fat-Thingnope12:28
KM0201wordToDaBird[Lap: yes, you have to go through 11.1012:28
KM0201wordToDaBird[Lap: if you just installed, just clean install 12.0412:28
SnowieZOM14%%!FG, having a TB hd and an interest in the software in the repos means my upgrade is 2G!!! is that normal?12:29
wordToDaBird[LapKM0201, ty12:29
GNS3TalkAny network drivers guru in this channel?12:29
wordToDaBird[Lapnah, ive been using the system for years, but didn't want to deal with unity.  I think the UI is hideous12:29
hje841LinuxMonkey, I'm building a webapp from scratch with JavaScript, but with php as connection to the database. it works fine when my codebase is on the same server as the database, but now I've moved it to my own pc and executing it on Apache2 but the DB is still on a WinServer12:30
e2b04836hje841: you need to edit your mysql config to allow connections from remote computers12:31
SnowiewordToDaBird[Lap: i know that it's a real personal pref thing. But i'm a gui user but a keyboarder, so i think it's awesome. main reason i want 12.04 is for menu search shortcut12:31
LinuxMonkeyhje841: what e2b04836 said is what I was gonna say12:31
ubuntu_64bitKM0201, why isnt safe to install without using wubi12:31
actionParsnipSnowie: more packages installed == more to upgrade12:32
KM0201ubuntu_64bit: i said i wouldn't *use* wubi, not that I would only install using wubi... just google "wubi problems".. they are often hard to fix, and usually brick OS's when they happen.12:32
GNS3TalkGents, I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, and my Quad NIC cards don't work on the new version. From the drop down menu, I see 'Device Not Ready' message. Can anybody help why I'm receiving this message?12:32
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SnowieactionParsnip: yeah. might be in my interest do ditch a bunch of them12:32
actionParsnipSnowie: its why I keep a tight ship and use as few packages as possible12:33
SnowieGNS3Talk: i would start with poking at ifconfig12:33
GNS3TalkSnowie: The ifconfig shows all the NICs.12:33
ilogicalL3top: I would go for a fresh new install if I knew this problem wouldn't appear again12:33
krababbelGNS3Talk: did you try manual configuration instead of network manager?12:34
45PAAKV28I need help with quintuple boot12:34
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GNS3Talkkrababbel: I switched to Linux about two months ago. I know how to get things working, but not too sure what you mean. Could you please clarify?12:35
ndeeI wanted to install the updated clamav from here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa <-- I added the ppa location, when I do a apt-get update, I see following line: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwibber-daily/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US <-- what could cause that line?12:35
krababbelGNS3Talk: 'ip' command is the current way to do it. save into /etc/network/interfaces for next boot.12:35
LinuxMonkey!ppa | ndee12:35
ubottundee: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:35
GNS3TalkI will try that and get back to you.12:35
GNS3TalkThanks krababbel :)12:35
ndee!ppa-purge12:35
krababbelGNS3Talk: maybe network manager, which is in task bar, has problems. you can remove it in software center. then you need to configuer manually12:35
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html12:35
OerHeksndee that ppa is not suitable for Precise 12.0412:36
ndeeOerHeks, I'm on 10.0412:36
GNS3Talkkrababbel:  Possibly! But when I plug a network cable into the port, the OS doesn't identify it.12:36
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krababbelGNS3Talk: you mean nm at the top doesn't see it?12:37
DFrostedWangJust a tip: If you find this annoying that you have to switch between irc and terminal try Guake.12:37
DFrostedWangIt's much better since so much happens in the terminal.12:37
krababbelGNS3Talk: try it manually, maybe you don't even have to remove nm for a try, just don't use it. 'ip link' for instance should see all interfaces.12:37
krababbel GNS3Talk 'ip addr' shows adresses.12:38
krababbel'ip addr add 10.0.0.1/24 dev eth0' adds an adress,12:38
ubuntu_64bitKM0201, about using wubi if there is some problem why dont u tell or report the problem so the ubuntu developers could fix12:39
GNS3Talkkrababbel: I will try that command to add the IP address setting manually via CLI.12:39
GNS3TalkI'm back on 11.10 now, and I asked the question many times over the Ubuntu forum but no one bothered to reply :) Cheers krababbel12:40
krababbelGNS3Talk: also don't forget 'ip route' 'ip route add ...' and dns config then. for the next boot, you need interfaces file in /etc/network/ :)12:40
hje841e2b04836, a colleague can access the db from a windows machine no problem, but from my ubuntu 11.10 I get 'Unknown host'12:40
GNS3TalkYep thanks. I will study the 'ip' command and all the options it offers (DNS, Gateway, Subnet mask, etc)12:41
krababbelGNS3Talk: also dns entry is needed now in /etc/resolvconf/base, resolvconf package manages dns now12:41
krababbelnp12:41
DFrostedWangI need help with quintuple boot, if anyone can help.12:41
e2b04836hje841: is it a mysql database?12:41
krababbelGNS3Talk: though in interfaces file there is a line for dns too, forgot that12:41
krababbelGNS3Talk:12:41
master_hi12:41
hje841e2b04836, yes12:42
DFrostedWanghi12:42
DFrostedWangI need help with quintuple boot.12:42
SnowieDFrostedWang: i dont think i can help directly, but if you start describing your issue, someone in the chat will let you know if your in the right place. might be better to try the room for the bootloader you are using12:42
DFrostedWangIDK what a bootloader is, exactly.12:42
master_anyone knows about bash scripts ???12:42
DFrostedWangI can only have 4 partitions, though.12:43
DFrostedWangI'm already using my Windows backup drive.12:43
SnowieDFrostedWang: ah, k. so when you say 'quintuple boot' what do you mean exactly. that five different operating systems?12:43
DFrostedWangas kubuntu12:43
DFrostedWangYes12:43
DFrostedWang2 within a windows partition12:43
e2b04836hje841: what happens if you try to connect to the database using the commandline from another machine?12:43
DFrostedWang1 on backup hard drive12:43
nyuszika7hHi, what is /dev/port?12:44
DFrostedWang3 on Windows partition counting Windows12:44
hje841e2b04836, the same - 'Unknown host...'12:44
DFrostedWangThe one I have an issue with is on SD card.12:44
Snowiemaster_, there is a bash chat room #bash12:44
freakolowskyI've got a strange issue with super key ... using system settings -> keyboard i bind "Super-T" to terminal ... works fine ... then i bind "Super-E" to home and "Super-L" to lock screen ... in both cases i get the search bar (as if super wasn't pressed)12:45
freakolowskyany ideas?12:45
Snowieso you are trying to install Kubuntu, but you have 3 windows installs allread?????12:45
e2b04836hje841: are you using the machines ip or dns name?12:46
DFrostedWangI have ubuntu within windows alongside another non-linux on Windows partition. My backup partition has kubuntu. Xubuntu is on SDHC card.12:46
hje841e2b04836, IP.12:47
SnowieDFrostedWang: ok, that's full on man. what's the issue your having?12:47
sancasi have eclipse in ~/.eclipse/eclipse... and i want create a launcher for it12:48
altin_anyone knows a good way to set up a VPN connection between 2 servers12:48
altin_in ubuntu12:48
e2b04836hje841: that is very strange indeed i'm all out of ideas12:48
DFrostedWangit won't launch12:48
DFrostedWangdoesnt show up12:48
DFrostedWangI should point something out, though.12:48
Snowiesancas: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html12:48
spassaltin_: neorouter :)12:49
hje841e2b04836, the only difference is that I'm the only one with an Ubuntu pc.12:49
DFrostedWangWhen my machine turns on I have kubuntu bootloader asking how to boot. I have to choose the Windows bootloader from there to boot something on Windows partition.12:49
SnowieDFrostedWang: ok. I can only assume if you cant see the SDHC card, that it's not mounting properly. i think you will have to modify the bootloader to get that to happen. but that's about the best advice i can offer. hope it helps.12:51
DFrostedWanghow12:51
DFrostedWang?12:51
Snowiethe bootloader is called grub12:51
Snowietop google result for mound sdhc in grub doesnt offer much confidence sorry12:52
Snowiehttp://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2012-03/msg01484.html12:52
hottunahello! im having some issues with fglrx and jockey-gtk. fglrx crasches and has terrible performance12:53
notzeand gain12:53
hottunawhats the best way of fixing it?12:54
sancasthanks Snowie12:54
danieldeusinghttp://tuxthink.blogspot.de/2011/12/send-output-from-one-terminal-to.html <--- how can I read the output if I am connected to this maschine via ssh ?12:54
notzeapt-get upgrade ->hash sum missmatch12:54
notzewhat the helk12:54
Snowiehottuna. first thing i would try is 2d mode for unity. if you can get the splash screen, it is one of the options. thats what i did :S12:54
tester_Can anybody tell me why i'm getting this problem.....12:55
tester_tester@tester~/Desktop$ scp -v expert root@192.168.62.129:/home/tester/Desktop/.Executing: program /usr/bin/ssh host 192.168.62.129, user root, command scp -v -t -- /home/tester/Desktop/.12:55
DFrostedWangThe internet says UNetbootin is better than Startup Disk Creator for this, so I'll try that...12:55
tester_OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 201012:55
tester_debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config12:55
tester_debug1: Applying options for *12:55
tester_debug1: Connecting to 192.168.62.129 [192.168.62.129] port 22.12:55
tester_debug1: Connection established.12:55
tester_debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa type -112:55
FloodBot1tester_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:55
tester_debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -112:55
tester_debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_dsa type -112:55
hottuna2d mode works. 3d mode works aswell, however fglrx crasches ever 5-45 minutes12:55
altin_spass never heard of it...12:56
altin_is that good12:56
altin_?12:56
Snowielol12:56
LinuxMonkey!paste | tester_12:56
ubottutester_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:56
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fidel_altin_: spass has quit12:56
freakolowsky... guess nobodyž12:57
Snowiehottuna: can you post the output of $ lspci | grep VGA'12:57
Snowiehottun12:57
Snowiehottuna: sorry, without the `    fat fingers tonight12:58
tester_browser N.A. Sorry for this time...Any Help Please12:58
Snowietester_: huh?12:59
hottunaSnowie: http://pastebin.com/AE4am45412:59
tester_Snowie: Pls Sorry12:59
Snowiehottuna: ok, have you tried the radeon drivers instead12:59
hottunayes, thay crasch every 5-45 minutes :(13:00
hottunaand have equally bad performance13:00
Snowiehottuna: ouch. have you had this card working recently with other os?13:01
hottunayes, it ran ok under linux mint until recently. I've also tried another radeon card with the same results13:02
Snowieok, so i think we can eliminate the card and the drivers as being faulty. the issue must lie somewhere else. got any custom effects?13:02
hottunateh default ones on unity 3d13:03
tester_sending my problem: cmd output as a text file13:03
LinuxMonkeyhottuna: when the issue started did you possibly install a new kernel?13:03
tester_snowie : sending my problem: cmd output as a text file13:04
hottunamaybe via apt-get upgrade. no manual stuff however13:04
ldz420hottuna: you might need to update some packages or even the linux source or header packages13:04
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Vlansorry guys, i'd need a help real quick... i'm using 12.04 and i can't see any of the menus13:04
Vlanhow do i replace them?13:04
mykhi_hey guys what does it mean when 'ls -l' shows that all directories have szie of 4,0K but one is like 50000,0K13:05
hottunaldz420, LinuxMonkey ill try and update and see if jockey-gtk will intstall properly now13:05
angel279Hello, I've purchase a vps (xen) with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now I would like to upgrade to 12.04 (do-release-update -d) but after the upgrade process the server not load up and I dont have access via the SSH, I can press choose after the upgrade to not restart the server.. but I still dont know what to do in order to fix this issue?13:05
Vlani've used metacity --replace but it seems to have made things worse13:05
taxii would like to upgrade to lolita13:05
taxinymphet13:05
dontknowchromium stable channel is still on 18 WTH?  https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable13:06
taxiyoung uns13:06
nh2what is the 12.04 equivalent of gnome-power-manager? The binary is gone13:06
taxipthc13:06
taxicp13:06
SnowieVlan: um, restart doesn't work?13:06
Zio_Liuchi guys....I've an ubuntu 11.10 with the /home encrypted, can I format the / without loss any data?13:07
ldz420Vlan: so what if you try and press the hold alt  button?13:07
wNZio_Liuc: yes13:07
hottunaCould someone ban taxi, childporn is not acceptable13:07
wNZio_Liuc: wait... no data loss on /home13:07
Zio_LiucThank you wN ;)13:07
wNZio_Liuc: / will be lost. and if your'e using cryptosetup you probably need your /etc/crypttab file (i think). im not sure how it works in ubuntu13:07
SidewinderVlan, You may wish to have a look here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/13:07
escottZio_Liuc, encrypted /home is self contained in /home. but before you do that you might want to backup your decryption key just in case13:08
Aritz?13:09
Zio_Liucsure...I'll backup the /home, but just the important files.13:09
scintillaewould 12.04 report a bc4311 minipci wifi card with lspci... even though it isn't physically installed on a Dell D630?13:09
Zio_Liucthis is the fist time that I encrypt my home..13:09
escottZio_Liuc, if you are backing up /home be sure to do so when the user is not logged in13:09
Zio_Liucwith the uprade  from 11.04 to 11.1013:10
SnowieZio_Liuc: speaking of, you ever use ubuntu1 for that. i havnt really bothered, but im thinking i should13:10
Zio_Liucno problem13:10
tester_scp -v expert root@192.168.62.129:/home/tester/Desktop/.             Executing: program /usr/bin/ssh host 192.168.62.129, user root, command scp -v -t -- /home/tester/Desktop/.                     OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010           debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config                     debug1: Applying options for *                      debug1: Connecting to 192.168.62.129 [192.168.62.129] port 22.13:10
tester_                    debug1: Connection established.                debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa type -1                  debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1                         debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_dsa type -1                            debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1                          debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_13:10
tester_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5                               debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5 pat OpenSSH*                                   debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0                               debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5                                    debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent                                 Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer13:10
tester_                  lost connection13:10
FloodBot1tester_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:10
Zio_Liucbut I would format the / for the upgrade to 12.0413:11
escotttester_, a lot of sshd configs prohibit root login. that might be your problem13:12
LinuxMonkeyescott: he quit13:12
compdocafter I modify sshd_config, how do I restart ssh on U 12.04 ?13:14
vadiwhats going on13:14
escottcompdoc, service ssh restart13:14
Snowiecompdoc: i think i installed the service command.13:14
compdocthanks13:15
nh2"sudo restart ssh" is also possible13:15
raph_aelhi, since 1204, i notice an overhall slowness of the system and seemingly bad disks accesses, is it a known problem ?13:15
nh2what is the 12.04 equivalent of gnome-power-manager? The binary is gone :(13:15
dontknowi want to build chromium myself like stable channel do https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable. but i don't know anything about it. how and where do they chose for stable chromium, how do they build, do they add extra things etc?13:15
k41s3r80ciao a tutti13:16
Snowiedontknow: there must be a chromium channel with better answers13:16
k41s3r80qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi?13:16
Sidewinder!it | k41s3r8013:17
ubottuk41s3r80: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:17
k41s3r80grazie mille ubottu!13:17
escottnh2, probably upowerd13:17
LinuxMonkey!info gnome-power-manager13:18
ubottugnome-power-manager (source: gnome-power-manager): power management tool for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 379 kB, installed size 1584 kB13:18
DFrostedWangI need help with quintuple boot. Specifically SDHC card.13:18
tdnAfter installing recent updates (new kernel), my LUKS encrypted system does no longer boot. It says: evms_activate not available. If I boot the previous kernel, I do not get this error. How do I fix this?13:19
LinuxMonkeynh2: its still there see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gnome-power-manager13:20
nh2LinuxMonkey: yes, that's the package, but it doesn't contain the binary any more for some reason13:21
vadii really like linux but it is so hard to get away from windows13:21
badabumhow can i find out in ubuntu where a windows .lnk link is pointing to?13:21
nh2escott: upowerd? does that also start the gnome applet?13:21
Snowievadi: i read a blog post once that said that's the one way to be sure to get help in a linux chat room. what exactly are you having trouble with13:21
escottnh2, thats the daemon. looks like you can install the old gui if thats what you want13:22
nh2badabum: I think you can open it in an editor, e.g. gedit13:22
DasEitdn: with no expertise on that specific errormessage, seems you new kernel lacks some luks-ability, where is it from ? encryption enabled ? same keyalgo like aes,dsa then previous system ? luks/modules there ?13:22
vadiwine, i have read wine but not sure how to operate programs in it13:22
badabumnh2: i tried that, it can't open it13:22
nh2escott: how? and what is the thing that is shown in unity as the battery applet?13:22
nh2badabum: hmm true, they seem to be binary13:23
testerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818/13:23
Snowievadi: wine has it's own channel. Not really looked after here. but as always, read the manual. if you WANT to get away from windows, it will take plenty of reading. head to wine.org13:23
tdnDasEi, well, the kernel is the default one used when installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit alternate. I have not done anything to explicitly enable any luks modules. Neither have I done this in previous versions of Ubuntu since 7.04 and up until now.13:23
nh2badabum: but if you open it with an editor that can display text inside binaries (e.g. vim), you are at least able to make out the path13:24
vadithanks snowie13:24
Snowievadi: sorry, winehq.org13:24
vadithanks.13:24
DasEitdn: raid possibly ?13:25
badabumnh2: vim gives me a lot of garbled text with lots of @s in it13:25
vadii have been doing reading on linux and it is very nice. windows kinda ruins people i believe13:25
testerhey Snowie: it's me tester_ here is  my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818/13:25
nh2badabum: yes, but for me it contains the path somewhere in beween13:25
pfalconHi! We're having troubles with accessing EC2 S3-based Ubuntu mirror: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g++_4.5.2-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden13:25
tdnDasEi, no raid.13:26
pfalconanybody might have an idea what can be wrong with it?13:26
badabumnh2: found it, thanks13:26
LinuxMonkeytester: first off why are you running as root?13:26
Snowievadi: i have come and gone from linux distros many times. BUT, i have been using ubuntu as my desktop now for over 3 years. just generally. lovin it13:26
DasEitdn: so I'd boot a live system, then open it from there and, after chrooting in, recheck initramfs, update/grade and then update-grub13:26
tdnpfalcon, 1: check if you can access it from another site, 2: tcptraceroute it.13:26
testerLinuxMonkey: i'm sending to the root  user at another machine....13:27
Snowietester: all i did was ask what problem you were having, and that's WAY beyond my depth. Anyone?13:27
tdnDasEi, I can boot the previous kernel (just did that now). Can't I just recheck initramfs, update/grade, etc. from here?13:27
tdnDasEi, and how to recheck initramfs, and so on?13:27
pfalcontdn: essentially, we have it in automated build system in the cloud, and some (and only some) packages started to throw 403 couple of hours ago13:27
tdnDasEi, I have a terminal open with root shell.13:28
tdnpfalcon, check tcptraceroute?13:28
DasEitdn: the command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade spits no errors ?13:28
tdnpfalcon, and check if you can reach it from elsewhere. Also, do you use any proxy?13:28
prateekpwhy i am getting no rule to make target clean on make clean command13:28
pfalcontdn: do you have an idea if Ubuntu EC2 S3 mirror is under maintenance now?13:29
tdnDasEi, no errors.13:29
Snowieprateekp: i have no context, but what target are you trying to make clean?13:29
testerSnowie: wat's wrong ? I'm new . so getting habitual to it might take time....can you help me out ?13:29
DasEitdn: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?13:29
subb1hi all..13:29
tdnpfalcon, no, did you check the things I suggested?13:29
tdnDasEi, no errors on dist-upgrade either.13:30
vltHello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?13:30
sk1specialokay. i have two hdds. primary via sata and has ubuntu 12.04 , secondary via ide and has windows xp pro. now my xp pro messed up and i had to reinstall. the start up menu list that shows ubuntu , safe mode windows whatever boot options , the shortcut there to windows no longer works im assuming since i reinstalled its a diff address or something ish lol. how do i fix this?13:30
DasEitdn: cd /boot/grub && sudo updateinitramfs -u13:30
subb1I have a toshiba laptop, 12.04 installed with chicony usb cam. which pack do i need to downlaod to test my video cam functioning?13:30
LinuxMonkeytester: you probably dont have ssh keys on that system13:30
naggui have few notepad files saved in windows, when i open them in unix getting wierd characters at end of each line/column13:30
prateekpsnowie: target means13:30
tdnDasEi, zsh: command not found: updateinitramfs13:30
vltsubb1: “xawtv” for example13:30
Snowietester: if im right, yur trying to ssh to a box that's giving you grief. I use ubuntu as my desktop, so i really dont know how to help. try describing your issue a little bit. a random error wont help the many experts in here give you advice13:31
pfalcontdn: tcptraceroute works, its some .deb files referenced in Packages file are gone from their location apparently13:31
tdnDasEi, mkinitramfs?13:31
DasEitdn: cd /boot/grub && sudo update-initramfs -u13:31
DasEitypo, sry13:31
tdnpfalcon, can you get those packages from other networks? (from the same mirror)13:31
escottsk1special, boot linux and run "sudo update-grub"13:31
prateekpsnowie: target means13:32
prateekp?13:32
tdnpfalcon, and I am not interested in if tcptraceroute "works", obviously you can reach the server if you get 403. However, maybe the route is different and the enpoint different. Maybe a transparent proxy?13:32
DasEitdn: will take a minute or so, no errors ?13:32
sk1specialescott: on ubuntu now..lemme try it13:32
testersnowie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818/      every time it gives me conn. reset by peer13:32
pfalcontdn: not really, without lot of manual hacking around. again, it's automated system which "just works". or breaks ;-)13:32
sk1specialmmk brb to check13:32
vincenzomlHi there, I recall there's a tool that automatically "backports" some packages from +1 distribution13:33
vincenzomldo you know the name of the tool?13:33
nagguany name for issue am encountering13:33
DasEivincenzoml: enable backports repo13:33
DasEi!backports13:33
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging13:33
tdnpfalcon, well, right now it has "broken", so you must do some manual debugging.13:33
vincenzomlDasEi: no I would like to backport something that is not there13:33
testerLinuxMonkey: i'v tried by keeping same rsa file at both side and change the sshd_config......but still it gives me error: socket read: conn. reset by peer13:34
Snowieprateekp: exactly. its telling you your trying to run a clean command. all commands have a target. the thing your executing the command on. apparently that target cant be cleaned, its against the rules. what are you trying to do when you get that error. i gaurantee i wont have the answer, but that's where the problem is13:34
vincenzomlDasEi: i need a new ocaml package which is in quantal13:34
MrFaggotDoes btrfs require defragmantation?13:34
DasEivincenzoml: you want an older version ?13:34
tdnDasEi, it has finished: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-24-generic13:34
tdnDasEi, reboot?13:34
vincenzomlDasEi: no a newer one, I remember there's a program that does it (and of course the result may be good or bad)13:34
DasEitdn:sudo update-grub13:34
tdnpfalcon, which automation system do you use?13:34
kutchbhiHello losers!13:34
tdnDasEi, done13:34
OrpheonI'm missing libvdpau_nvidia.so, which reinstalling nvidia-current didn't give for some reason. This is (I think) causing my wine to error each time I try to execute somethign that requires DirectX. Any ideas why or what I could do to replace this leak?13:35
kutchbhiloving your permanently in beta distro13:35
prateekpi am tring to clean the TMPDIR directory present in /tmp13:35
pfalcontdn: https://android-build.linaro.org/jenkins/13:35
kutchbhiGET a life and switch to windows13:35
MrFaggotDoes the btrfs file system need to be defragmented?13:36
pfalcontdn: and before doing any changes, I'd just like to know what's the status of us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com13:36
DasEivincenzoml: neither quantal or ocaml tell me anything, the only thing I can think of is either a foreign repo (ough, and then only selective) as a foreign package, as you mentioned, risky (try in vm first)13:36
DasEitdn: try reboot13:36
prateekpsnowie: i am tring to clean the TMPDIR directory present in /tmp13:36
Snowieprateekp: yup, dont have the answer, but google that phrase even. Im sure one of the experts in here is watching me fumble with this and may have an answer13:36
vincenzomlDasEi: it's prevu!13:36
DasEivincenzoml: prevu ?13:36
tdnpfalcon, ok, I do not know Jenkins. I use MetaConfig myself ( http://www.metaconfig.com )13:37
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vincenzomlDasEi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu13:37
tdnDasEi, ok.13:37
vincenzomlbut prevu does not exist anymore13:37
vincenzomlwhy?13:37
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sk1specialescott: awesome t/y.13:37
Ecilahi!13:38
pfalcontdn: any hints about Ubuntu EC2 S3 mirror status, like "it is known to work as of now"/"it is known not to work"/"i don't know"? thanks.13:38
prateekpok i ask it again .. why do i get  No rule to make target clean while i do make clean13:38
sk1specialnow im trying to upgrade my xp to win 8 ..and after a few failed attempts ive learned its because i need to update my motherboard. id rather use ubuntu for this.. what would be the safest most stable way to update it without killing anything ?13:38
vincenzomldid anyone ever hear of prevu and do you know what can I use instead of it?13:39
EcilaCan anyone help me? I've been suggested to install a newer version of ubuntu (currently mine is 10.04), but I don't know how to do so13:39
eightieskhild!java13:39
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.13:39
Orpheon!upgrade13:39
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade13:39
Orpheon!upgrade | Ecila13:40
ubottuEcila: please see above13:40
tmushaving problems with limits - processes started from init.d are not applied limit from /etc/security/limits.conf. have included pam_limit.so to /etc/pam.d/common-session  but to no avail - Anyone?13:40
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testervincenzoml: wat's prevu? wat does it do ?13:40
tdnDasEi, I rebooted. Same error.13:40
prateekpok i ask it again .. why do i get  No rule to make target clean while i do make clean13:40
tmusoh, it would appear that only root processes are not handled13:40
EcilaOrpheon thanks13:40
vincenzomltester: it was an ubuntu-specific program, here's a link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu13:40
EcilaI'll have a look13:40
Orpheonyou're welcome13:40
actionParsnipprateekp: maybe the clean function isn't in the make file13:40
DasEivincenzoml: your link didn't work, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu though, and I can't find such packet either in the pangolin repo, so can't help there13:40
Orpheongood luck13:40
Orpheon<Orpheon> I'm missing libvdpau_nvidia.so, which reinstalling nvidia-current didn't give for some reason. This is (I think) causing my wine to error each time I try to execute somethign that requires DirectX. Any ideas why or what I could do to replace this leak?13:40
FloodBot1Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:40
SnowieactionParsnip: ty13:41
tdnpfalcon, I do not know. I use a different mirror. Try asking your vendor?13:41
prateekpactionParsnip: the place where i am running this command does not have a make file13:41
anomDoes anyones menu bars go unresponsive from now and again? Like my chrome menu bar, when I try and hit the X it just clicks the desktop behind it?13:41
subb1vlt, thanks mate !13:41
vincenzomlDasEi: I posted the very same link...13:41
prateekpactionParsnip: does it need to have a make file13:41
actionParsnipprateekp: not strictly13:42
dv310p3rgood morning. I woke up this morning to some major issues. My apport the bug reporting program can't report bugs. It keeps telling me: "Since development is complete for the 'precise' version of ubuntu you should probably use it's support channels instead of this tool.13:42
prateekpactionParsnip: so should i look for make file now ?13:42
dv310p3rI thought precise was lts?13:42
actionParsnipprateekp: could contact the maintainer(s)13:43
actionParsnipdv310p3r: it is13:43
actionParsnip!12.04 | dv310p3r13:43
ubottudv310p3r: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120413:43
nitzer_hey, anybody knows how to debug VGA problems? i have some misbehavior in my vga , and don't know how to fix it , maybe is a hardware problem13:43
dv310p3ractionParsnip, so, any ideas what's going on?13:43
actionParsnipnitzer_: what are you seeing?13:43
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eightieskhildI have tryed several times13:43
eightieskhildhow do i install java?13:43
actionParsnipdv310p3r: run:  ubuntu-bug apport     then report a bug13:43
tdnDasEi, do you have something else I can try?13:44
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LinuxMonkey!java | eightieskhild13:44
ubottueightieskhild: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.13:44
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_:13:44
eightieskhildLinuxMonkey, tryed it already13:44
DasEitdn: sudo apt-get install pastebinti && pastebinit /etc/fstab13:44
crizisSnowie[noobspert: running on proprietary ati drivers from fgrlx-updates package (newer than defaults, 12.1 i think), and ye 3d desktops and games work fine13:44
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: hey mate. can you post the output of $ lspci | grep VGA13:44
actionParsnipeightieskhild: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html13:44
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: iea,13:45
eightieskhildactionParsnip, thanks13:45
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tdnDasEi, http://paste.adora.dk/P2400.html <- my fstab13:45
dv310p3rhow can I switch to the old kernel. Yesterday it was upgraded?13:45
nitzer_01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series13:45
actionParsnipdv310p3r: hold shift at boot13:45
dv310p3rty13:45
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: were we talking earlier?13:46
eightieskhildactionParsnip, dpkg: error processing oracle-java7-installer (--configure):13:46
eightieskhildany clue?13:46
nitzer_the problem are many, first of all, when the screen is locked for long time, i cant see the login input13:46
tdnDasEi, http://paste.adora.dk/P2401.txt <- my /etc/crypttab13:46
actionParsnipeightieskhild: did you add the ppa?13:46
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: noup, my first time here :)13:46
eightieskhildI did13:46
eightieskhildit downloaded13:46
nitzer_now i'm experiencing some misbehavior with google chrome, when i scroll up or down, just a segment of the windows moves, the other part stays like if i didn't do anything13:47
actionParsnipeightieskhild: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html   is the more manual way, make sure you remove the ppa13:47
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: ok, this is for the rest of the room, but someone else had the same card earlier 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series]13:47
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: it's probably a cheap card ;p13:48
sk1specialnitzer_: are you trying to do anything special? i used xwinwrap to have a screen saver as my desktop and when its running my windows do stuff like that13:48
tdnDasEi, does that give you anything?13:48
nitzer_no, just installed 12.0413:48
DasEitdn: it seems the initram of your newer kernel doesn't include the evms support the older kernel does, I'm overasked how to tell that to an existing initramfs, your fstab tells luks was there before13:48
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: you running open or proprietry?13:49
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DasEitdn: behind my knowledge : http://evms.sourceforge.net/install/root.html13:49
tdnDasEi, ok, so where does that leave me?13:49
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: installed the additional drivers13:49
dv310p3rok, I just realized that the new kernel .24 is crashing my gpu.13:49
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: do you get the same behaviour with both?13:49
DasEitdn: find someone experienced with evms, get initram to support it13:49
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: let me see the version ...13:50
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dv310p3rHow can I report this as I switched back to my old gpu. And the apport thing kept crashing and wasn't reporting it when in that kernel.13:50
tdnDasEi, ok, but is this an intended change in the kernel package frmo Ubuntu? That it does not include evms anymore?13:50
dv310p3rsorry, switch back to my old kernel13:50
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: didn't installed the others , but the problem with the unlock had it with the propetary drivers also in 11.1013:50
DasEitdn: as said, over my knowledge13:50
tdnDasEi, ok.13:50
tdnDasEi, thanks for your help.13:50
dashhey guys. Any of you know if the ubuntu installer images support console login? I booted the Oneiric installer image on my mx53 board and I want to get to a command prompt without waiting for the full install to complete13:51
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: i solved alot of my dramas with the 2d desktop. still running it now13:51
dashbut I don't know what username/password it's configured with13:51
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: it may solve the problems, but is not how i like to use it, but i'll try, no fix arround?13:52
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: let me check if 2d solves something13:52
aciculadash you mean a virtual console or a serial terminal?13:52
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: then i'm going to instal propetary drivers :)13:52
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: thanks :)13:52
dashacicula: a virtual console13:53
aciculaeds i see this post form 2008 about evms being dropped from ubuntu http://www.michele.me/blog/archives/2008/02/evms-bit-my-ubuntu-upgrade/13:53
aciculai guess its been gone awhile?13:53
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: if you've tired 2 different drivers and have the same issue, then i say it's not the drivers. I'm NOT a linux guru or ubuntu expert, that just makes solid sense to me13:53
aciculadash: pressing ctrl-alt-F2 etc doesnt give you a vt?13:54
loganrunhow do I upgrade to the latest release of Ubuntu13:54
dashacicula: it does but it prompts for login13:54
loganrunI saw a pop up message about it once, but no longer13:54
dashacicula: and i don't know what accounts the installer has.13:54
aciculadash: euh, try all F keys, think one of them should just give you a login13:54
aciculaor hit enter13:54
aciculaor we13:54
aciculashould not need a password for those13:55
wormmdMy local terminal is rxvt-unicode-256color, but I'm ssh'd into a server that doesn't know what type of terminal that is, so there are various functions that don't work. How do I update TERMINFO or TERMCAP on the remote server?13:55
DFrostedWangDo I nee the HPTools partition on my Windows drive?13:55
DFrostedWangI can only have 413:55
sk1specialanyone know the best/safest/most stable way to update my motherboard?13:55
dashacicula: it's the usual normal-linux setup, 6 VCs and X13:56
aciculask1special: you mean the bios?13:56
dashacicula: first 6 running login13:56
aciculadash: ah its an existing installation?13:56
dashacicula: no, this is the installer.13:56
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: it didn't resolved the problems with the scroll on the screen13:56
dashacicula: I _have_ an existing installation on an external disk, which I would like to poke at :)13:56
sk1specialacicula: yeah to whatever the current version is without killing everything like my windows did :]13:56
dashacicula: but my boot media got screwed up13:57
DFrostedWangDo I nee the HPTools partition on my Windows drive?13:57
DFrostedWangneed*13:57
dashacicula: so i thought the installer would help me :)13:57
Snowie[noobspertloganrun: default install? just hit the Super(windows key) and then type update, it will let you know there is a latest version13:57
aciculask1special: the bios manual ussually has a procedure listed for that, typically its an usb based update or a program you can run from windows13:57
aciculadash: ah13:57
LinuxMonkeyDFrostedWang: You can have more than 4 partitions on a hard drive13:57
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: does the down arrow scroll down?13:57
DFrostedWangIt's a Not on mine13:57
aciculadash: euh, you can use the installer to boot your own system directly or drop to a live system and then chroot into your system13:58
DFrostedWangNot on mine.*13:58
dashacicula: that's what I want to do13:58
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: iep, just a part of the window, like if there's a box13:58
sk1specialacicula : yeah i know how to do it in windows..but i like the way ubuntu works alot better with stuff like updateing lol. was wondering if theres a good way to do it on here13:58
odinswandhello, i need to forward email for a certain user to a hotmail address - is there an easy way to do thet?? please help!!13:58
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: wait, when you say scroll, you mean its all over the place flickering?13:58
dashacicula: but it launches the installer gui on boot and doesn't offer me a chance to get at a commandline :)13:58
branantis it possible to switch to a new kernel without rebooting the machine13:58
DFrostedWangLinuxMonkey: How do I do it, then?13:58
nitzer_Snowie[noobspert: something like that,13:58
odinswandhello, i need to forward email for a certain user to a hotmail address - is there an easy way to do that?? please help!!13:58
aciculask1special: technically possible yes, stick with the procedures your mobo manufacturer suplies though. bricked mobo's are pretty useless13:59
dashodinswand: sure. is this email you're receiving via SMTP?13:59
loganrunSnowie[noobspert, thanks13:59
odinswanddash: yes13:59
dashodinswand: what MTA are you using?13:59
DFrostedWangI shrunk /dev/sda2 witch had windows on it. When i went to add it to the table it said the partition table could only have 413:59
aciculadash euh, when you boot the livecd you should get the choice for installing ubuntu or booting a live cd, etc13:59
odinswanddash: mta?13:59
SidewinderDFrostedWang, You might want to check out the differences between Primary, Extended, and Logical partitions.13:59
dashacicula: i don't have a live cd, i have a microsd card with an installer image on it13:59
sk1specialacicula: ah yeah..thats why i wanted to do it here haha. sudo apt-get install awesome new bios. trying to upgrade to win 8 but need to upgrade that and last time it killed my drive13:59
DFrostedWangSidewinder: How?14:00
aciculadash: just the kernel and initrd or something?14:00
dashacicula: this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5/QuickStart14:00
wormmdDFrostedWang: Google will help here. You can only have 4 primary partitions, but an larger number of extended partitions.14:00
DFrostedWang/dev/sda2 is primary. /dev/sda3 is extended14:00
aciculadash: right14:00
DFrostedWangi only have 4 counting the extended14:00
DFrostedWangIt says that's the max14:01
DFrostedWangLet me try again...14:01
odinswanddash: postfix?14:01
SidewinderDFrostedWang, This should explain all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning14:01
wormmdDFrostedWang: are you trying to add extended partitions or primary partitions? Make sure you specify.14:01
dashodinswand: hmm, i am not a postfix expert. but I believe you can edit /etc/aliases and add "youruser: someuser@hotmail.com"14:02
dashodinswand: and it'll use that for forwarding14:02
dashodinswand: or you can put "someuser@hotmail.com" in /home/youruser/.forward14:02
Snowie[noobspertnitzer_: when did you first get this problem14:02
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DFrostedWangI need to add one for xubuntu14:04
alexishey, I 'm trying to change my police font on unity, but can't find the dialog to do that, any pointer?14:04
wormmdalexis: police font?14:05
alexisthe size of the font, sorry14:05
alexisfont is "police" in french, hence my mistake.14:05
wormmdalexis: interesting...14:05
odinswandhello world, i need the help of a system admin on Skype - i can pay. please let me know if you can help, i have no idea how to do some basic things! please help14:05
Onixspolice14:05
actionParsnipin myunity, can you change stuff there14:06
eightieskhildok14:06
Onixsrun!14:06
LinuxMonkeyalexis: it would be done in Universal Access14:06
wormmdactionParsnip: thanks, I don't run Unity :)14:06
actionParsnipwormmd: what do you use?14:06
alexisLinuxMonkey: ok, that works14:06
odinswandhello world, i need the help of a system admin on Skype - i can pay. please let me know if you can help, i have no idea how to do some basic things! please help14:06
vltHello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?14:07
wormmdactionParsnip: Running Lubuntu 12.04 with the awesome window manager.14:07
fidel_vlt: talking about unity?14:07
actionParsnipwormmd: nice, so you will want to change the font in awesome's config ?14:07
actionParsnipodinswand: just ask, it's free14:07
vltfidel_: Yes. Is there something else than Unity?14:08
wormmdactionParsnip: That was a question from alexis, I was investigating, but thanked you for your answer to alexis because I'm not familiar with Unity.14:08
DFrostedWangI can't seem to resize my windows partition of my hard drive. It thinks I want to make another primary when I just want an extended.14:08
fidel_vlt: for sure - unity is just one option - the default one - others might be selected at the login screen. thats why i was asking if you are using unity in the first place14:08
vltDFrostedWang: What did you do?14:09
vltfidel_: I installed a basic Ubuntu debootstrap install and the pkg “ubuntu-desktop” so far.14:09
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SidewinderDFrostedWang, I certainly hope that you defragmented your NTFS partition, prior to resizing it..14:10
DFrostedWangI'm using KDE Partition Manager to make a partition for Xubuntu14:10
ThinkCigarHi. After I installed Ubuntu 12.04 automatically, How can I change the mount points of /boot & swap? Those Partitions exists in before OS Ubuntu 11.10.14:11
vltThinkCigar: Edit /etc/fstab14:12
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ThinkCigarAny details?14:13
eightieskhildso i need java working14:13
ThinkCigarvlt,14:13
eightieskhild64 bit14:13
eightieskhildi can't find instruations that work...14:13
ThinkCigarvlt, Any details?14:13
testeri'm not able to do scp file transfer or any other ssh job like sftp .....any help ???   http://paste.ubuntu.com/100081814:13
JPetersonwhat's the equivalent name of debian's 'unstable' apt repo?14:13
vltThinkCigar: Should be quite self-explanatory.14:13
thiebaude!java14:14
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.14:14
JPeterson(what do i put in suources.list to get the latest unstable code)14:14
DarkenvyHello, I'm trying to play a DVD on ubuntu12.04 but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/SqZP1i0J14:14
Sidewinder!fstab | ThinkCigar14:14
ubottuThinkCigar: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions14:14
JPetersonwhat's the equivalent names for oldstable, stable, testing, unstable?14:14
nemoOk. I'm only mildly annoyed that 12.04 installed dnsmasq w/o telling me, and broke my pdns setup and took me a while to figure out why one machine was working but the others weren't14:15
ThinkCigarvlt, Thinks.14:15
nemoMy actual question though is.  dnsmasq has --listen-address=127.0.0.114:15
nemowhere is that set so I can change it14:15
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actionParsnipnemo: yeah it can help but can cause isues14:15
petsoundsJPeterson: ask in #debian14:15
fidel_JPeterson: debian != ubuntu in that area14:15
nemoactionParsnip: I had pdnsd set, and it could not longer start since dnsmasq had swiped the port14:15
Snowie_NOOBspertDarkenvy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats14:15
nemoI don't mind trying dnsmasq, I just want to know where it is configured so I can rebind it to the external interface14:16
ThinkCigarThink you all.14:16
DarkenvyThanks14:16
JPetersonpetsounds: why would i ask debian what ubuntu's APT repos are called?14:16
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nemoactionParsnip: there is no dnsmasq.conf anywhere.14:16
nemoactionParsnip: and a grep in init.d does not reveal any mention of dnsmasq14:16
actionParsnipnemo: /etc/dnsmasq.conf14:16
nemoactionParsnip: yeah. no14:16
nemoactionParsnip: although I see /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf in the startup line14:16
nemoactionParsnip: I doubt that'll let me override the commandline param though. I'd like to know how the service is being started14:17
LinuxMonkey!repos | JPeterson14:17
ubottuJPeterson: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:17
fidel_vlt: regarding the logout menu - this should depend on the selected login-session. personaly i dont use unity - so i am not sure if apps like myunity allow you to change the unity-logout menu or not14:17
wormmdMy local terminal is rxvt-unicode-256color, but I'm ssh'd into a server that doesn't know what type of terminal that is, so there are various functions that don't work. How do I update TERMINFO or TERMCAP on the remote server?14:17
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Orpheonwhat does it mean if compiz spits out "(compiz:3091): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" before crashing?14:17
Snowie_NOOBspertok, so im trying to help out on here for a change with the same noobie questions in know ive asked. Where can i find a complete manual for Ubotto14:18
Orpheon!ubottu | Snowie_NOOBspert14:18
ubottuSnowie_NOOBspert: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots14:18
JPetersonLinuxMonkey: can u answer the question directlly?14:18
Snowie_NOOBspertOrpheon, ty ;14:19
JPetersonwhat's the equivalent names for oldstable, stable, testing, unstable?14:19
JPetersonno links14:19
JPetersonprint the answer14:19
petsoundsJPeterson: because you don't do that (change release sources) in ubuntu.14:19
nemoactionParsnip: doesn't look like /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf lets one configure it either. only disable it14:19
SidewinderSnowie_NOOBspert, Or, you could always open a private chat with her. ;-)14:19
* nemo sighs14:19
nemowhy do they do this sort of stuff and not tell people.14:19
OerHeksJPeterson, testing/unstable = proposed14:20
JPetersonOerHeks: what's th latest apt repo?14:20
Snowie_NOOBspertSidewinder, yeah, but i point to NOOBspert in my title. just dont want to break anything. i know how painful it can be ;)14:20
Snowie_NOOBspertSidewinder, at least one of you might stop me if i break something14:21
OerHeksJPeterson, latest are just in the regular repo's.14:22
OerHeksi guess14:22
OrpheonI'm starting to get really confused with problems I have between opengl, wine, nvidia drivers and copiz14:22
Orpheon*compiz14:22
SidewinderSnowie_NOOBspert, "Breaking something" with the bot is not very likely, but I understand what you're sayin'.14:22
nemoactionParsnip: hm. looks like it creates that config on the fly. grrr.14:22
actionParsnipnemo: there is a how to in order to disable it14:23
nemook. does *anyone* know how to change this dnsmasq in 12.04 from using 127.0.0.1 to eth014:23
nemoactionParsnip: I know how to do *that*14:23
actionParsnipnemo: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-dnsmasq-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html14:23
nemoactionParsnip: the thing is I was already using a dns cacher.14:23
Darkenvygot DVDs to run Thanks Snowie_NOOBspert14:23
nemoactionParsnip: I don't mind using theirs - I just want to know how to configure the dang thing14:23
JPetersonit's amazing that no one understand a simple question, the equivalents of oldstable, stable, testing, unstable is natty oneiric precise quantal14:24
nemoactionParsnip: something they apparently are making not at all obvious or documented or maybe possible14:24
Snowie_NOOBspertDarkenvy, np :D14:24
SidewinderSnowie_NOOBspert, Yes, just open a private dialog window with her; as you just did with me.. :)14:24
wormmdJPeterson: That is not true. Those are releases.14:24
SidewinderSnowie_NOOBspert, Just make sure that you give her some cookies.14:24
eightieskhild!repos14:25
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:25
actionParsnipnemo: could remove that config then use normal dnsmasq14:25
fidel_JPeterson: maybe cause you are using terms from the debian world - while at least some inhere are more focused on ubuntu -> not used to all debian-terms14:25
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nemook. that was not at all helpful :-/14:26
nemooh well14:26
usalabshi all, anyone know how to remove the power icon at the bottom right corner of the login screen?, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2 (unity sucks big time), when someone is logged in, and they press keys CTRL-ALT-L to lock screen, but anyone can touch a key and click on 'Switch User' then hit the power icon and select shutdown, and all data not saved would be gone14:27
JPetersonwhere are the small installation images? like 50 MB for online installation14:28
killerusalabs :i think teh system will resume your user account where u left14:28
usalabsI hope so, lol14:28
fidel_JPeterson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:29
EvanRis anyone else having problems with postfix sasl auth after upgrading14:29
JPetersonfidel_: thx14:29
Sidewinderusalabs, The 'pain in the neck' answer is to train all of the users to get in the habit of saving their work, often.14:30
nemousalabs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772220 ?14:30
Orpheonwine cannot execute programs that require DirectX, it warns that it cannot initialize OpenGL. Then compiz crashes. As I'm on a 64-bit system, I suspected my 32-bit opengl libs were not completely there, and I was right: Looking at the .xsession_errors file, I saw that I lacked libvdpau_nvidia.so. After some adventures with installing different things, I finally managed to settle on nvidia-current that had that file. The wine error didn't14:30
Orpheon disappear, and compiz errors changed. This is a log of the entire compiz session from start, the executing of the wine program and then the crashing (I used &> to pipe): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000938/ The wine error looks like this: http://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD  (particularily important are I think the lines 345-348).  Any ideas?14:30
usalabsSidewinder training and them doing are 2 different things lol,,, ever got an electronic gadget and not read the instructions? lol14:31
Sidewinder:)14:32
ActionParsnipinstructions are for chumps14:32
SidewinderHeh,.14:32
Orpheonany help guys?14:33
SidewinderIs that commin' from the "Head Chump?" ;-)14:33
nemoaaagh. dang upgrade wiped my pdnsd config too :( and I didn't get a prompt for it. lesson learned, back up /etc when working w/ ubuntu14:33
usalabsnemo I want to remove the 'shutdown/restart' button on the login screen, not disable switch user14:33
ActionParsnipnemo: indeed, its about 3Mb in size14:33
nemousalabs: your question described ctrl-alt-l and switch user...14:34
* nemo shrugs14:34
nemooh. whew. there *is* still the dpkg version14:34
nemoer. no. n/m14:35
nemothat's something totally different :(.  it is gone.14:35
usalabsnemo, yes, true, but if there's more than a few users, and they switch by pressing CTRL-ALT-L then click switch user, but while the screen is locked, anyone can touch any key, then click on switch user, then click the power icon, and select restart or shutdown,,,,, I want the power icon completely removed, so that other users can stilll switch, but no-one can restart or shut it down while screen is locked14:36
nemousalabs: m'k.  seems disabling switching would be more reliable if you don't trust your users14:37
nemousalabs: and after all, isn't like there's anything preventing people from just pressing the power switch14:37
nemounless you disconnect that too14:37
nemoI can't believe ubuntu makes it this hard to configure dnsmasq - whatever happened to using /etc and init.d and whatnot? I've grepped through all of /etc and see no hint of the stuff I see on the dnsmasq commandline14:38
usalabsnemo I trust the users, but not the people around them,,,,, the pc's are in an air conditioned, locked unit14:38
Sidewinderusalabs, Not to ask a totally dumb question, but even after removing said icons and controls, what's to prevent some one from simply pulling the plug? If you know what I mean..14:38
nemousalabs: ok... so the people *around* them are the ones logging things out?14:39
nemo'cause you know, you can always just do sudo shutdown14:39
nemousalabs: once you allow user switching, people can shut down through all kinds of ways14:39
usalabsnot if the users are not in the sudoers list14:39
nemousalabs: ctrl-alt-del on a console14:39
nemousalabs: local is special powers14:40
nemomagic sysrq14:40
nemousalabs: you have lots of stuff to disable14:40
nemohave fun14:40
mneptokusalabs: the main point is that people have physical access to the machine. with physical access, you cannot prevent a shutdown or reboot. not without physical locks.14:40
usalabshmmm, maybe I should just use kiosk software14:40
nemomneptok: and even with physical locks there are a lot of ways to bounce a machine besides the gui that he has to take care of14:40
nemousalabs: there are kiosk linux distros yes14:41
nemothey probably disable sysrq and ctrl-alt-del14:41
eightieskhild!repos14:41
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:41
fabiobikdoes anyone knows how to start PCSC daemon?14:41
nemothey probably don't have user switching either since that'd be pretty silly :)14:41
ThinkCigarHow to enable the laptop-mode-tools? my laptop's screen is always on top degree bright14:41
fabiobikto read rfid card?14:41
usalabsnemo I'll look into kiosk distros, thanks14:42
nemough. I cannot find where ubuntu hid the dnsmasq config :(14:42
nemoscrewit. sticking w/ pdnsd - works good enough14:42
silentpjhello, I've problem with ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64 installation on esxi5, grub-pc install failes every time. Does anybody know hot to install it properly?14:43
oldereagleanybody else experiencing that Filezilla freezes on Ubuntu 12.04? It started a couple of days ago. It randomly freeze and I have to kill it to be able to use it again.14:44
scotty^silentpj: pardon my lack of knowledge, but what is esxi5?14:44
LinuxMonkeyoldereagle: I dont have that issue myself and I use it every day14:45
silentpjvmware hypervizor14:45
fidel_oldereagle: no issues so far. do you get any error output? tried to start it from a cli? log-output?14:45
scotty^ok\14:45
mneptokoldereagle: invoke it from the command-line and see what errors get generated.14:45
oldereaglemneptok, ok.14:45
fidel_oldereagle: there is #filezilla as well - maybe a good additional place to ask14:45
oldereaglefidel_, ok. Thanks14:46
oldereagleThanks to LinuxMonkey and mneptok also.14:46
silentpjscotty^: http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/esxi-and-esx/overview.html14:47
mario_chi mi aiuta14:51
LinuxMonkey!italian | mario_14:53
ubottumario_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:53
esuavehow can i make a connection to an FTPS server via command line?14:55
ActionParsnipesuave: is 'sftp' a command?14:56
esuaveah yes thanks ActionParsnip14:56
beandogesuave: depends on what you wanna do14:57
ActionParsnipesuave: or you can use scp14:57
esuaveconnect to an SFTP server on a specific port14:57
esuaveto send over files14:57
beandogI like yafc14:57
beandogyafc sftp://user:pass@server.com/14:57
esuaveso ActionParsnip, if i telnet IP PORT.. that should verify connectivity correct?14:57
beandogbut rsync / scp would work fine too14:58
ActionParsnipesuave: yes, telnet will connect to any socket14:58
esuavecool thanks guys14:58
adam_wow14:58
adam_#bandung14:59
esuavealso, how can i show the routing table with just IP's.. not hostnames15:01
Pumpkin-esuave: most likely adding a -n flag to whatever you were already doing15:02
esuavecoo thanks Pumpkin-15:02
eyjay1991Guys quick question. I'm using fallback mode in ubuntu 12.04. Can i somehow remove the bottom panel and replace with docky?15:03
NoVoteLosseyjay1991 i gave up on unity and use GNOME shell with docky15:03
eyjay1991@NoVoteLoss Yes, I'm using Gnome Shell, but my question is, how can i remove the bottom panel? Right Click Menu doesn't give me something15:04
syria_Could you please guys help me with creating an ssh tunnel using putty?15:05
syria_please?15:07
olskolircsyria there are plenty of youtube videos on putty and tor15:07
olskolircputty with tor syria_15:08
eyjay1991to answer my question above, to delete/add a panel in fallback mode in ubuntu 12.04, the key is. SUPER KEY+ALT+Right Click15:08
syria_olskolirc:  I have a vps server and I want to create an ssh channel with it using putty.15:09
syria_olskolirc:  Do you have an idea about this please?15:11
valentinsalut15:12
syria_!en15:12
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:12
syria_:P15:12
valentinHello15:12
LinuxMonkeysyria_: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html15:12
syria_LinuxMonkey: Thank you for your help, I have googled this subject before but the version I am using is different from that one in the tutorial. :( .15:13
ActionParsnip!vnc | syria_15:14
ubottusyria_: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX15:14
LinuxMonkeyshould generally be somewhat the same15:14
syria_ActionParsnip:  I don't need VNC at all. !15:14
ThinkCigar!fstab15:14
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:14
syria_ActionParsnip:  I am talking about ssh tunnel.15:14
LinuxMonkeysyria_: what version you using?15:14
ActionParsnipsyria_: yes but it tells you how to make an SSH tunnel. !15:14
ActionParsnipsyria_: try reading15:14
syria_ActionParsnip:  I see, Thank you.15:15
ActionParsnipsyria_: thats why I gave the factoid15:15
ActionParsnipsyria_: makes sense doesn't it15:15
wormmdActionParsnip: that may not have been immediately apparent to him, given that he asked about one thing and you linked him to another. Maybe explain yourself in a little more detail next time.15:16
ActionParsnipwormmd: reading still helps15:16
wormmdActionParsnip: so does being concise.15:16
ActionParsnipwormmd: it says the words 'SSH tunne' which is required15:16
ActionParsnipwormmd: so the same process applies and is useful15:17
wormmdActionParsnip: The page was about VNC. He was asking about an SSH tunnel. How could he have gleaned that the VNC page contained information about an SSH tunnel had you not said, "The instructions are there, even though that topic isn't what you were asking about?"15:17
Yoshimi-pinkhow can i remove the ubuntu software center without uninstalling my DE15:19
ActionParsnipwormmd: because the factoid says it is advised to go through an SSH tunnel, so its safe to assume that the link contains a how to on SSH tunnelling15:20
wormmd!vnc15:20
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX15:20
wormmdActionParsnip: Vaguely.15:20
beandogHeh, I read that as VLC and was like ... whut?15:20
Fat-Thingis there any tools for extracting email adds on a website?15:23
ikoniaextracting email ads ?15:23
ActionParsnipFat-Thing: you could download the page then grep it I guess15:23
Fat-Thinghttp://www.spotht.com/2010/11/how-to-extract-email-addresses-from-web.html <--- i got this ... is it safe command in terminal?15:24
Keo-wi just want to install the bacula client and not the entire bacula server package onto one of my ubuntu servers. I'm assuming apt-get install bacula-client will do the trick?15:25
ikoniaFat-Thing: not helping you harvest emails15:25
Fat-Thing:(15:26
wormmdFat-Thing: why do you want to do this?15:27
Fat-Thingwormmd, i need an onlinejob :( even this kind of job just to earn for me to support my siblings on their tuitions15:28
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ikoniaFat-Thing: get a job with some sort of moral value rather than helping spammers15:29
ikoniawe will not help you15:29
deejay31Hey everyone!15:29
eyjay1991goodnight! =)15:32
aciduk1Hi all , looking for some advise on how to network boot ubuntu that is not official and has been repackaged15:34
aciduk1as im getting errors with the Release gpg file15:34
Vivekanandahello everyone, How do I redirect a cron job so it is displayed in a terminal?15:37
sunbirdanyone seen this error when (attempting to) start an application - No GSettings schemas are installed.15:37
NoVoteLossanyone reccomend a usenet server for linux/ubuntu?15:37
sunbirdthis is trying to run pidgin, which worked last night, but won't start up today.15:37
goranciahow can i protect myself against sniffing in ubuntu?15:38
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SidewinderUse a hankie?15:39
SidewinderSorry..15:39
Pumpkin-Vivekananda: the answer is "with difficulty". If you know the pts number of the session you want to display it on, you can just redirect the output to /dev/pts/$WHATEVER15:39
Pumpkin-however, given the dynamic nature of pts numbers, this might not be so useful15:39
LinuxMonkeyNoVoteLoss: server as in you want to run your own ?15:39
Pumpkin-getting it to display on the correct pts for what you actually want could be harder.15:40
NoVoteLosssorry LinuxMonkey, i meant one that i can connect to to get info on linux\ubuntu. i dont know much about usenet15:40
ActionParsnipsunbird: tried renaming ~/.purple15:40
pratzhey guys how to disable speaker beep sound in ubuntu15:40
ActionParsnipsunbird: then rerun the app, you'll get default config but it may start the app15:41
VivekanandaPumpkin:I just meant to launch a display in the foreground whenever a scheduled cron job is run. If it is difficult then can writing a shell script and calling the script from the cron be easier?15:41
sunbirdActionParsnip: doesn't work, same error.15:41
pratzhey guys how to disable speaker beep sound in ubuntu 12.04 ?15:41
ActionParsnippratz: if you run:  lsmod | grep pc     do you see pcspkr15:41
ActionParsnipsunbird: what is the output of:  lsb_relese -sc15:41
sunbirdActionParsnip: i'm running precise x6415:42
pratzActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/vip0W75F here output15:42
macmartineI'm on Ubuntu, following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html Under "Configuring SASL" it asks me to change a block in dovecot.conf. I don't see a socket listen { master { section anywhere. So where do I put it?15:42
VivekanandaAlso can someone point me to a good tutorial on shell scripting for beginner and advanced users15:42
LinuxMonkeyNoVoteLoss: check out xpn newsreader if your looking to read/write15:42
ActionParsnipsunbird: if you run:  apt-cache policy pidgin    what is the full version number of pidgin have installed?15:42
ActionParsnipVivekananda: i'd ask in #bash15:43
sunbirdActionParsnip: 1:2.10.3-0ubuntu115:43
nasellolista15:43
ActionParsnipsunbird: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pidgin15:43
sunbirdActionParsnip: also, this worked fine when i upgraded a week ago, and continued working last night. it was broken this morning when i woke up.15:43
SidewinderVivekananda, Perhaps try here: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/part1.html15:45
sunbirdActionParsnip: sorry, that doesn't work either. same error.15:45
lvlvhello,my ubuntu is 12.04.3.2.0-24, i want to install the ck patch,any idea?15:45
lvlv64bits15:45
ikonialvlv: what ck patch ?15:46
Tunn3ldamn.. moonlight doesnt work properly :(15:46
ikonialvlv: what's the actual issue ?15:46
ActionParsnipsunbird: did it upgrade the package ok?15:46
lvlvjust the15:46
sunbirdActionParsnip: yes.15:46
lvlva patch that is very coooooool15:46
ikonialvlv: a patch for what ?15:47
ActionParsnipsunbird: ok I suggest you roll back and report a bug15:47
lvlvlinus say it is a killer frture15:47
lvlvfeture15:47
ikonialvlv: what is the problem/what do you want to achieve15:47
lvlvfeature15:47
ikonialvlv: you need to give us details if you want help15:47
Tunn3lmoonlight doesnt show any video which uses silverlight 5 :(15:47
Tunn3larghh15:47
* Tunn3l blame me15:47
lvlvi want to install the ck patch15:47
ikonialvlv: what ck patch, a patch for what15:47
ikonialvlv: you need to give us info15:47
sunbirdActionParsnip: thanks. will do.15:47
madzikhello, could anyone tell me how to recompile alsa?15:47
lvlvaaaaa,15:48
Tunn3lmadzik just compile it again?15:48
ikoniamadzik: that's quite a big ask, why do you need to recompile alsa ?15:48
lvlvplz wait a minute15:48
ikoniamadzik: alsa is pretty important to the sound system in ubuntu, are you sure you want to recompile it ?15:48
madzik@Tunn3l @ikonia i need to intall pencore-amr0.1 because my app won't work otherwise15:49
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ikoniamadzik: ok, so why does that need alsa to be recompiled ?15:49
madzik@ikonia to apply changes15:49
ikoniamadzik: isn't pencore-amr0.1 a seperate application ?15:50
ikonia(I don't know, I'm asking)15:50
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lvlvhttp://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ his website15:50
madzik@ikonia i am pretty new to ubuntu too http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/ that's what people recommend in a discussion group, first install this opencore and then recompile alsa15:51
ikoniamadzik: give me a moment to look15:51
madzik@ikonia : do you know any tutorial that would guide me step by step how to do it?15:51
syria_LinuxMonkey:  Hi15:51
madzik@ikonia, take your time, thx!15:51
ikonialvlv: that's a kernel patch - you don't want to be playing with that15:51
lvlvikonia, why?15:52
syria_LinuxMonkey:  Do you have 5 miunutes for me please? I need your help regarding the ssh tunnel.15:52
lvlvmy pc is very hoooooooot!!!15:52
ikonialvlv: because rebuilding a kernel to an unsupported state is nothing something I'd advise doing15:53
Tunn3lsyria_, what is your Q?15:53
Tunn3lI agree with ikonia15:53
mneptoklvlv: you already have a scheduler in the kernel.15:53
ikoniamadzik: I can't see any information on that website that says the application needs alsa re-copmiling15:53
ikoniamadzik: I've not used this app before so I don't know, but I can't see anything that suggests alsa needs re-compiling15:54
stefano__dovrei programmare sulla porta porallela qualcuno sa come si fa vedere l' indirizzo della porta?15:54
scotty^madzik: AMR-NB and AMR-WB decoding is in recent versions of one of the gstreamer plugins (or in gst-ffmpeg).  Or do want AMR-NB and AMR-WB encoding?15:54
Vivekanandawhat did I miss. Lost internet connection temporarily15:54
syria_Tunn3l:  I live in syria and my country is forbidden on apple app store, I want to create an ssh tunnel with my vps to bypass the settings!15:54
lvlvmneptok, you mean that i donot need to install the patch??15:54
Tunn3lsyria_, what system are you using for setting up a tunnel?15:54
wormmd!en | stefano__15:54
ubottustefano__: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:54
lvlvikonia, oooooohhhh15:54
lvlvikonia, hot hot hot !!15:54
syria_Tunn3l: I usually use teminal, ssh -D port user@address.15:55
ikoniaI don't know what you are talking about15:55
LinuxMonkeysyria_:  what ya need?15:55
unkn-errorwhere are the fortune files/database stored? I see the forune is in /usr/games but I guess there should be some text/files/database somewhere from which fortune read's them and display15:55
stefano__addres parallel port terminal comand?15:55
mneptoklvlv: i mean that the BF scheduler was a proof-of-concept by Cin, and that is was never meant to replace CFS.15:55
Tunn3lsyria_, but you need a tunnel for that15:55
pratzActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/vip0W75F here output15:55
SidewinderVivekananda, I suggested that you look here for scripting how to: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/part1.html15:55
pratzActionParsnip: any ideas ?15:55
mneptok*con15:55
Tunn3lsyria_, which is allready installed/configured15:55
wormmdstefano__: that makes no sense, you really should look into a channel in your language.15:55
pratzActionParsnip: this sound is really annoying15:55
lvlvmneptok, ok,i got it15:55
Tunn3lsyria_,  I prefer setting up an external VPN server based on linux15:56
Vivekanandathanks Sidewinder and also tell me is there a way I can look at these chats if I get dc again? I mean is there a way to retrieve conversations?15:56
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lvlvthanks15:56
syria_Tunn3l:  Can you help me with that please? I am running itunes on windows 7 virtual machine.15:56
pratzhey guys how to disable speaker beep sound in ubuntu 12.04 ?15:56
Tunn3lsyria_,15:57
Tunn3lhttp://www.howtoforge.com/openvpn-server-on-centos-5.215:57
Tunn3leasy doing.15:57
FloodBot1Tunn3l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:57
OerHeksunkn-error, /usr/share/games/fortune. This is where fortune stores its database files. fortune will randomly select one of those files to pick a quote.15:57
syria_Tunn3l:  I don't have a vpn service, All I have is my VPS server which is located in UK,15:57
pratzActionParsnip: there buddy ?15:57
madzik@ikonia and @ scotty i need AMR-NB and AMR-WB encoding, plus as i told you i am a newbie, all of the ppl in the discussion group recomend compiling alsa after installing opencore amr in order to make pjsip work on ubuntu 12.0415:57
SidewinderVivekananda, Most of the core channels are logged here; this is a listing on the days in the month of May: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/15:57
playsexwebcamplaysexwebcam.com  entry here and get 120 credits free for chat, more guys and girls15:57
Tunn3lsyria_, which OS is your VPS running?15:57
playsexwebcamplaysexwebcam.com  entry here and get 120 credits free for chat, more guys and girls15:57
NoVoteLosswtf15:58
Tunn3l!ban playsexwebcam15:58
Vivekanandathanks15:58
syria_Tunn3l:  Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS.15:58
NoVoteLossthank you tunn3l15:58
SidewinderVivekananda, My pleasure. :)15:58
ikoniamadzik: I've never used this, so I'm only going back the documents15:58
unkn-errorOerHeks: oh, so that was a folder! :)15:58
unkn-errorTHX !15:58
Tunn3lsyria_, http://madisonlinux.org/InstallingOpenVPNOnUbuntu10.0415:58
madzik@ ikonia, i ve installed the thing and sound still doesnt work with this pjsip app, so i guess i need to recompile alse15:59
madzikalsa*15:59
ikoniamadzik: I wouldn't do that on a "guess"15:59
syria_Tunn3l:  Is it paid?15:59
Tunn3lno15:59
syria_Tunn3l:  :( ?15:59
Tunn3lsyria_, free to install15:59
ikoniamadzik: I'd want to know for certain first15:59
Tunn3lsyria_, OpenVPN is free15:59
VivekanandaAlso if I can get an answer to --:I just meant to launch a display in the foreground whenever a scheduled cron job is run. If it is difficult then can writing a shell script and calling the script from the cron be easier?15:59
madzik@ikonia i tried everything i coudl think of, and the sound still doesnt work with this app15:59
syria_Tunn3l:  I have it already installed, What manual should i read now?16:00
ikoniamadzik: again, that's still not "I need to re-compile"16:00
Tunn3lsyria_, which I gave youj16:00
Tunn3lyou*16:00
ikoniamadzik: that doesn't mean you don't need to, I'd just want to be %100 certain it was needed before doing it16:00
escottVivekananda, if you want to launch a gui program within a shell script you will have to export the DISPLAY variable before running the gui command16:01
syria_Tunn3l:  Thank you I will read it and come back to you.16:01
syria_LinuxMonkey:  Thank you buddy, I will read open vpn manual now.16:01
Tunn3lnp16:01
Tunn3lGood luck syria_16:01
LinuxMonkeyhehehe I did nothing and get credit..love syria_16:02
madzik@ikonia, i really am new to linux and all of the ppl in this app discussion group who tried to make it work on ubuntu 12/04 write they had to16:02
syria_:D16:02
Tunn3lhaha LinuxMonkey16:02
unkn-errorwhat is that program in ubuntu like pastie / pastebunz? what should I "apt-get install" to get easy pastes?16:02
Vivekanandaescott: I could launch grsync(the gui) but I am ok with just launching rsync but in the foreground and displayed in a terminal.What do I need ?16:03
madzik@ikonia so maybe you could guide me through? or recommend a good tutorial?16:03
beandogunkn-error: nopaste16:03
LaikaHi16:03
ikoniamadzik: guide you through what ?16:03
OerHeks!pastebinit | unkn-error16:04
ubottuunkn-error: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com16:04
LaikaCan someone help me with something?16:04
wormmd!ask | Laika16:04
ubottuLaika: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:04
Tunn3lLaika, sure16:04
* unkn-error installing16:04
escottVivekananda, I would recommend running rsync in the background either in a screen session or just dumping the output to a text file. then you can start a gui terminal to monitor (either tail -f or connect to the screen session) without worrying that rsync won't start because your gui is not running16:04
madzik@ikonia recompilation of alsa16:04
* Tunn3l is installing a Virtual WindowsXP16:05
Vivekanandaescott:16:05
ikoniamadzik: sorry, I've just said it's not something I would do unless a.) you know you need to recompile it b.) you know the specfic options your application requires16:05
lledetcan anyone help with this problem? http://serverfault.com/questions/391485/postfix-not-sending-email-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-12-0416:05
ikoniamadzik: do you a.) know that you NEED to recompile it b.) know the specific options your application requires ?16:05
nasello!list16:05
ubottunasello: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:05
ikonialledet: Unauthenticated senders not16:06
ikoniaallowed (in reply to MAIL FROM command))16:06
nasellociao16:06
ikonialledet: you do not have a user who is authenticated sending mail16:06
ikonialledet: look at the postfix config and see what auth it's looking for16:06
Tunn3lnasello, try /list16:06
LaikaI've accidentally set Firestarter (the firewall) to run with elevated priviledges when I log in on my main account. The problem is, every time I log on, Firefox also runs, and for some reason because Firestarter gives the dialogue asking for a password it freezes and I can't click anything. I assume this is because Firefox is blocking it, and as it freezes the screen when asking for a password, this is the cause of my proble16:06
Laikam. Is there any way to edit startup applications without logging into my account?16:06
madzik@ikonia as i told you the app still doesnt work, thats the only thing left to try thats recomennded, what do you mean by specific options?16:07
Vivekanandaescott: I am ok with the screen sesssion( what is it though?) and I dont want to run the gui. What I do want is to see progress of the command coz if I use the dump method and if the rsync is for a very large file then I have to wait for a couple of hours before I am even sure that it is running or not in the background.16:07
Laika!patience16:07
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:07
ikoniamadzik: no - you don't re-compile things blindly16:07
ikoniamadzik: if you NEED to recompile it, you'll need to change the default options (or it will just re-build how it is now, which won't work according to your theory)16:07
ikoniamadzik: so you'll need to know the compile options you'll need to make it work with your app16:07
OerHeksmadzik, sound doesn't seem to work unless pjsua sees the alsa header files at make time. just do a "apt-get install libasound2-dev" and then (re)make the pjsua binary16:07
lledetikonia: i setup the user using smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sendgrid is that what you mean?16:08
ikoniamadzik: however again, unless you KNOW you NEED to recompile, I wouldn't try it, and if you do KNOW you NEED to recompile you'll NEED the specific compile options your app wants16:08
ikonialledet: ok, so you need to look at why the user you are sending mail is not matching that auth table16:08
LaikaAny help would be greatly appreciated, as my laptop is completely defunct at the moment. =)16:08
wormmdLaika: what window manager are you using?16:09
ikoniamadzik: saying "it's the only thing left" is not a reason to re-compile, more so if you have no reason to think it's the problem or no fix in compile options16:09
LaikaCompiz I think.16:09
LaikaNot sure though16:09
LaikaI'm a Ubuntu newb- just installed it last week16:09
wormmdLaika: 12.04?16:09
LaikaYeah16:09
syria_Tunn3l: How can I make sure if openvpn is installed on my server please?16:09
Laika!ask16:10
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:10
LaikaLTS or something16:10
madzik@OerHeks and @Ikonia as I told you i am completely new to ubuntu and its issues, i will try this libasound2-dev and get back to you16:10
EvanRikonia: MAIL FROM isnt talking about system users, i dont think16:11
madzik@OerHeks do you have any experience with pjsua?16:11
nasello\list16:11
ikoniaEvanR: have look at the log, it's realying16:11
ikoniarelaying16:11
ikoniaEvanR: not mail FROM16:11
Tunn3lsyria_, setup a connection?16:11
OerHeksmadzik verry poor, but this issue is know, i found your answer @ http://rrizun.blogspot.com/2010/12/pjsippjsua-wsound-on-ubuntu-1010.html16:11
syria_Tunn3l: I think that openvpn is already installed, How can know whether it is installed on my vps or not?16:12
oCeannasello, this is a support channel16:12
escottVivekananda, when you start your rsync session start it with "screen -dmS rsync-cron rsync arguments" then you should be able to steal it with screen -RR -D rsync-cron16:13
LinuxMonkey!openvpn | syria_16:13
ubottusyria_: OpenVPN is a vpn technology in Ubuntu, sudo apt-get install openvpn and then see http://openvpn.net/ and see the documentation "HOWTO" noting you have already installed it. ;-) It rocks!16:13
nasellosorry16:13
Vivekanandaescott: all that will go into the shell script right?16:13
madzik@oerHeks wow, just downloaded and will remake pjsua and see where it gets me, have u ever used it to make calls?16:14
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OerHeksmadzik, nope, but let us know if you solved soundsupport16:15
LaikaAny idea wormmd?16:15
VivekanandaI am a newbie in scripting so sorry about that and I will have to read scripting which I am doing now.I dont know where to put those lines and so direct me if you can to reading material.16:15
escottVivekananda, so the script would first start rsync with "screen -dmS rsync-cron rsync ..." then later you can "export DISPLAY=:0" and "gnome-terminal -- screen -RR -D rsync-cron"16:15
msejic28good day16:15
wormmdLaika: how did you set that program up to run at startup?16:16
waza-ariHey, im using ubuntu 12.04 (UpToDate) on my laptop with an external (secondary) screen connected via hdmi. When i have a window on my primary (laptop) screen and maximize it, it gets moved to the second screen and maximized there. Anyone knows that behaviour?16:16
LaikaStartup Applications under the cog in the top-right corner16:16
escottVivekananda, when the gnome-terminal session starts up you can manipulate the cron job (or just view it) and to make it go away "Ctrl-A D"16:16
msejic28can anyone tell me why ar my notifications for pidgin and new update pink16:16
madzik@OerHeks re-making now, will let u knw16:16
msejic28i am usin xubuntu 12.0416:17
msejic28using16:17
msejic28anybody here16:18
ActionParsnipmsejic28: many16:18
wormmd!patience | msejic2816:18
ubottumsejic28: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:18
madzik@OerHeks wow, it solved the issue, thanks alot!16:18
msejic28ok16:19
msejic28why are my notifications pink in xubuntu 12.0416:19
OerHeksmadzik, have fun!16:19
LaikaSo yeah, basically wormmd I just need to know how to edit startup applications from the recovery terminal16:19
ChellO.o16:20
ActionParsnipmsejic28: I believe it copied the wallpaper some how16:20
ActionParsnipmsejic28: try setting a different wallpaper, see if it changes16:20
msejic28pidgin update and crash notifications are pink16:20
madzik@OerHeks and @Ikonia thank you very much for your help and support!16:20
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biebI installed 12.04 LTSP to my server that has VGA adapter.. when I go to display settings it sees it as a laptop display. How do I change that?16:21
wormmdLaika: check /etc/xdg/autostart for your application and run "mv <your application> <your application>.bak"16:21
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ActionParsnipwormmd: that'll need sudo16:21
wormmdLaika: what ActionParsnip said.16:22
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Laikawormmd I can't see Firetstarter in there, just a whole load of .desktop files16:22
msejic28why are my notifications pink it is iritating16:22
wormmdLaika: not Firestarted.desktop?16:22
Laikawormmd: Nope. =(16:23
LaikaWould you like me to post what I do have there wormmd?16:23
wormmdLaika: no.16:24
wormmdLaika: anything in /etc/rc.local?16:24
msejic28pidgin, update and crash notifications are pink16:24
Laikawormmd says it's not a directory16:25
wormmdLaika: it's a file, do "cat /etc/rc.local"16:25
teicahhi, I am using Gnome 3 with the Gnome Classic session.  How do I find the location of the background displayed right now?  It's not in /usr/share/backgrounds/ It's a stock image16:26
LaikaJust has the default contents wormmd16:26
Bulletrulzhello16:28
blitzkrieg766halo16:28
Bulletrulzim using lubuntu16:28
blitzkrieg766right on16:28
Bulletrulzwhat r u using16:28
blitzkrieg766u needa help?16:28
Bulletrulzkinda16:28
blitzkrieg766i use a few distros16:28
Bulletrulzim kinda a noob to to this16:29
blitzkrieg766no prob, whatcha need?16:29
Bulletrulzis there anyway i can put themes on lubuntu16:29
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wormmdLaika: I'm honestly surprised it's not in /etc/xdg/autostart, and don't know where to go from there (I don't use Unity). Maybe uninstall and reinstall Firestarter and don't set it to run with priveleges next time?16:30
jan_Hey guys, I have a problem - when using evince, all of the text on GUI widgets comes out as those square characters, but the pdf itself is alright. I've put the output from a command line in a paste here: http://pastebin.com/XsZNdc8D (and it would seem to be related) I just can't figure out what to do about it. Already tried reinstalling evince.16:30
LaikaI don't know how to uninstall it wormmd?16:30
wormmdLaika: sudo apt-get remove firestarter or some such.16:30
wormmd!tab | Laika16:31
ubottuLaika: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.16:31
Laika!tab16:31
Bulletrulzubottu hi\16:31
Bulletrulz!hi16:31
Bulletrulz!help16:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:31
wormmd!to | Laika16:31
lineeshhi16:31
Bulletrulz!thanks16:31
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:31
Bulletrulz!hi16:31
Bulletrulz!hello16:32
lineeshhow to retrive deleted history in chrome16:32
wormmdLaika: try wor[TAB] before you type anything else. Makes it easier to see the things you've typed to me.16:32
Laikawormmd, OK, I can do that16:32
wormmdLaika: actually worm[TAB], or just type out my name first.16:32
wormmdLaika: Thanks :)16:32
Bulletrulzr there any good download managers?16:33
Laikawormmd, how do I run sudo in the guest account?16:33
wormmdLaika: guest doesn't have sudo priveleges.16:33
Bulletrulzlaika say sudo16:33
LaikaSO how will I be able to remove Firestarter?16:33
Bulletrulzthen put in ur sudo pass16:33
wormmdLaika: maybe reboot in recovery mode.16:33
Bulletrulzno16:33
Bulletrulzwait16:33
biomanHello16:33
Bulletrulzjust say sudo16:34
lineeshHi anobody pickup my query?16:34
wormmdBulletrulz: guest is not in the sudoers file.16:34
Bulletrulz remove t then it will come upp with the other account16:34
biomanbackportpackage fails because of no gpg key found. Any ideas please ?16:34
Bulletrulzwoorm yes if u say sudo it will come up with ur other account i had this probel with mint16:34
Bulletrulz!mint16:34
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:34
ActionParsniplineesh: possibly use your backups if you backed up the data16:34
Bulletrulzlol16:35
Bulletrulz!ping16:35
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...16:35
wormmdBulletrulz: Mint != Ubuntu16:35
lineeshi dont have backup16:35
Bulletrulzyes ik16:35
Bulletrulzlol16:35
Bulletrulzmint is ubuntu16:35
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: its not16:35
Bulletrulzactionparsnip u obvisly never used mint16:36
Bulletrulzaction i have it is16:36
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: i know what it is and the standpoint of it in this channel16:36
lineeshany opensource software for recovering data16:37
Bulletrulzjust with a diffrent starting desktop enviriment and16:37
Bulletrulzaction i was saying i had this probel in mint16:37
LinuxMonkeyBulletrulz: mint is not ubuntu just like ubuntu is not debian. its based off it.16:37
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: none of the ubuntu based distros are supported here, like backtrack, pinguyos and so on16:37
Laikawormmd, apparently I can just remove Firestarter through the software centre16:37
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: it doesn't matter if i've used it or not. the fact is it's not ubuntu so isn't supported here16:37
wormmdLaika: true, I didn't know if you could access that since you said the whole desktop was frozen.16:37
Bulletrulzlinux monkey no really lol mint is just like ubuntu with a little changed crap its not based its edited16:38
Laikawormmd,  I'm on the guest account, I needed to type my admin password.16:38
Sidewinderlineesh, Have a look at "Testdisk" for data recovery.16:38
Bulletrulzlaika told u lol16:38
ActionParsnipLaika: you could run:  su name    where name is your other username, you can then use sudo16:38
Bulletrulzi told u wormmd all she had to do is type in her admin pass16:38
wormmdLaika: what ActionParsnip said.16:39
Laika*he16:39
LaikaDo I still need to do that now that I've uninstalled it? wormmd16:39
Bulletrulzlaika check16:40
Laikabrb then guys =)16:40
wormmdLaika: I just wanted you to uninstall it so that hopefully you could reconfigure it when you reinstalled because we couldn't find the configuration file to tell it not to autostart with priveleges.16:40
jhfordhow do i go back to metacity+gnome-panels on ubuntu 12.04?16:40
Sidewinderlineesh, This should get you headed in the correct direction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_recovery_software16:41
biomannobody here uses backportpackage ?16:41
arcimboldodoes anybody has experience with preseed installation via network?16:41
escottjhford, supposedly you can install gnome-panel but i dont think it will feel the same16:41
ActionParsnipjhford: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/16:41
ActionParsniparcimboldo: no but it's my next project :)16:42
Bulletrulzcan i use the ubuntu software center on lubuntu16:42
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: sure16:42
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: you can use any app from any DE, its all good16:43
thomaspr2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.3016:43
Bulletrulzaction thx man16:43
Bulletrulzum help!!!!!16:43
ramon_hey how are you16:43
Bulletrulzi treid to install something from ubutuntu software center and it keeps saying waiting for apt-get to exit16:44
SidewinderBulletrulz, Personally, I prefer Synaptic; it's in the repos..16:44
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: if you reboot then run the command ubottu next gives16:44
ramon_I was hoping someone can help me out with a problem with ubuntu 1216:44
ActionParsnip!aptfix16:44
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:44
Bulletrulzill try synaptc16:44
thomasprBulletrulz: You have to manually close the other window16:44
rockerfellerhello16:45
SidewinderBulletrulz, Yes, you can not run more than one package mgt. program, simultaneously.16:45
wormmd!ask | ramon_16:45
ubotturamon_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:45
Bulletrulzbrb16:45
thomasprSidewinder: simultanously ?16:46
blitzkrieg766bullet.... type in "ps aux", find the process for the software manager, read its process id, then type "kill xxxx" replace xxxx with process id number16:46
blitzkrieg766as root, of course16:46
rockerfellerhey im having a problem booting up on my pc it goes to the boot from cd16:46
blitzkrieg766or, if you know what you're looking for, type "ps aux | grep whateveryou'researchingfor"16:46
ramon_what do i do if all of a sudden my update manager starts to not download and say Failed to download repository16:46
blitzkrieg766make sure you're full screen though so its easier to read the output16:46
LinuxMonkeyblitzkrieg766:  he's gone.lol16:46
lineeshthanks16:46
rockerfellerGNU Grub version 1.98-ubuntu1316:46
blitzkrieg766lmao GOOD16:46
MinaKumarramon_: install a fresh copy of ubuntu16:46
blitzkrieg766XD16:47
blitzkrieg766afk16:47
rockerfelleris there no way of restoreing it thru the script16:47
rockerfellerrestroe*16:47
ramon_I was hoping maybe someone may have had this problem because i shouldn't have to install a new copy because of this16:48
wormmdrockerfeller: do you want to boot from cd or not?16:48
arcimboldoActionParsnip: I'm having some troubles installing using preseed on a vm16:48
wormmdramon_: you're being trolled.16:48
arcimboldodebian installation was fine thuogh16:48
Sidewinderthomaspr, Well, tour english is certainly better than my german. :)16:49
ramon_I'm new to this so please take time with me16:49
rockerfellerwhen i boot from the cd it goes in to the terminal anyway16:49
thomaspr2.6.38-14 with Natty holds back packets --> so it doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.3016:49
LaikaDidn't work wormmd16:49
thomasprWhy ?16:49
MO_Handesramon_, reset repositories using `sudo synaptic` or `sudo gedit /etc/sources.list` and run a `sudo apt-get update`16:49
LaikaStill freezes, but dialogue briefly flashes16:49
Bulletrulz!aptfix16:49
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:49
ramon_Thanks16:50
ActionParsniparcimboldo: not something i've used dude. just something i'm interested in16:50
kwaghi all16:51
ActionParsnipthomaspr: if deps aren't met then the package won't come down16:51
Sidewinderramon_, If you wish to open gedit with escalated privileges, might I suggest gksudo, in lieu of sudo?16:51
kwaghey actionparsnip16:51
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helpanyone here?16:52
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Bulletrulz!aptfix16:52
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wo0fhelp: just ask?16:52
Sidewinderramon_, For a more detailed explanation, please see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo16:52
Guest27129well 2 things... in thunderbird how to i get to see my sent mail?   and u know the top tool line in linux mint12? how do i get programs to stick to it?16:53
olegПривет! Как Вам Ubuntu 12.0416:53
thomaspr2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.30 - why ???16:53
ramon_Thanks again16:53
spitziHello. I have Ubuntu 9.04 installed and I wish to install ubuntu 12.04 on another partition. Can I do so without using DOK ?16:53
bsi get this error when i try to update ubuntu Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.16:54
bsFurthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f16:54
thomasprbs: answers to ?16:54
SidewinderGuest27129, In T-Bird, just open your "sent" mailbox.16:55
Guest27129but it aint showing;P  where do i find it?16:55
ActionParsnipspitzi: what is DOK?16:55
spitziDisk-On-Key16:55
Sidewinder!eol | spitzi16:55
dontknowguys from #archlinux says never use gksu or gksudo because it will create root privilege files in home directory. what are you saying?16:55
ubottuspitzi: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:55
spitziUSB stick16:55
LaikaAny idea wormmd ?16:56
bananapieI have a process that is saying 'out of memory' despite having 6 gigs of free swap and 200mb of free memory ( 1 500 000kb  of cached files ). Is their something in UBuntu that blocks a process from taking up more than a certain amount of memory ? ( 32-bit machine )16:56
Bulletrulzwhat is the fasowserbrtest web16:56
rockerfeller??16:56
rockerfellerhelp16:56
Sidewinderspitzi, Please see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:56
Bulletrulzwhat is the fastest web browser16:56
bsi get this error when i try to update ubuntu16:56
bsCheck if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.16:56
bsFurthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f16:56
spitziSidewinder, I read some of it. I don't really want to upgrade, just make a fresh install.16:57
ActionParsnipspitzi: you can use a CD if you want...16:57
MO_Handesdoes anybody have package `pokerth` installed? I've got some questions to ask16:57
wormmdLaika: not as of now, I have to get some actual work done now though. If you uninstalled Firestarter and restart and are still having the same issue, the problem is likely not firestarter.16:57
escottbananapie, with 32bit your process address space is only 4gb is the app using more than 4gb? without pae your kernel space is strictly less than 4gb, are you using pae?16:57
ActionParsnipspitzi: the clean install is a good idea16:57
auronandaceBulletrulz: how long is a piece of string?16:57
rockerfellersays sudo isnt reginzed16:57
bananapieescott : 2.6.32-39-generic-pae16:57
rockerfellerrecongized16:57
ActionParsnipauronandace: twice as long as half of its length16:57
Sidewinderspitzi, OIC, just ignore me then; I missed some your requirements. :) Sorry.16:57
EvanRcut it in half, then double it16:57
Bulletrulzno what is the fastest browser i have dial up sooo......16:58
EvanRdillo16:58
krababbelelinks Bulletrulz16:58
ActionParsnipBulletrulz: midori is light and fast16:58
bananapieescott : it peaked at 3030m VIRT and 1.5G RES in top16:58
escottbananapie, the app could just be out of space/out of contiguous space16:58
spitziGTG thanks16:58
dontknowguys from #archlinux says never use gksu or gksudo because it will create root privilege files in home directory. what are you saying?16:59
bananapiethat matters in memory ?16:59
MO_HandesFirefox :D ( ActionParsnip , I think there was a bot or a channel here discussing and introducing top packages and application in every category?!)16:59
Bulletrulzim gonna try luakit16:59
thomaspr2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.3016:59
escottdontknow, sudo has a tendency to result in xauthority files owned as root16:59
EvanRbananapie: it could because locality of reference helps cache performance16:59
rockerfellerGNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu13 sudo not r recognized please respond16:59
Bulletrulzi love linux17:00
EvanRwhy dont you marry it then17:00
Bulletrulzevanr i aready have xD17:00
Bulletrulzjk17:00
thomaspr2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.3017:01
MO_Handesrockerfeller, what `which sudo` returns?17:01
thomasprHolds back the packets17:01
EvanRBulletrulz: ILLEGAL17:01
MO_Handes!tell thomaspr about repeating17:01
rockerfellererror unknown command17:01
escottbananapie, contiguous space absolutely matters. most applications just use "malloc" which allocates contiguous space only (its not worth the overhead to introduce a memory manager at the application virtual address space level). R (statistical programming tool) in particular, regularly fragments its virtual address space17:01
ActionParsnipthomaspr:can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:01
dontknowescott, i don't get what you say, they say don't ever use for graphical application sudo, gksudo or gksu.17:01
thomaspr... or about leaving17:01
thomasprIt's short17:02
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bsi ubdate ubuntu to 12.04 from update but i get erros17:02
bananapiethat might explain the 'GSlice: failed to allocate 2040 bytes (alignment: 2048): Cannot allocate memory17:02
bananapie' message17:02
escottdontknow, i dont know what they said, but im telling you that sudo doesn't set the environment in the right way for gui applications and .Xauthority ends up being root owned rather frequently17:02
rockerfellersud 11.0717:03
rockerfellersudo KDE17:03
escottbananapie, GSlice is intended to get around the fragmentation issues, but evidently it is having trouble. You might just save your work (if you can) and restart the application17:03
ActionParsnipthomaspr: if its more than 2 lines, please use a pastebin like http://pastie.org      thanks17:03
thomasprsudo apt-get upgrade -s17:03
thomasprPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig17:03
thomasprAbhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut17:03
thomasprStatusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig17:04
bananapieI've restarted it about 20 times on two different machines.17:04
thomasprDie folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:17:04
thomaspr  firefox firefox-globalmenu linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic17:04
FloodBot1thomaspr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:04
Sidewinderdontknow, Have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:04
bananapieIt's the data file I am trying to open which is about 400mb17:04
ActionParsnipthomaspr: AGAIN...use a pastebin....17:04
dontknowescott, Sidewinder http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo this one explains well thanks17:04
MinaKumarthomaspr: he's trolling you. don't ever use a pastebin. copy the entire code here17:04
thomasprfirefox firefox-globalmenu linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic17:05
thomasprare held back17:05
ActionParsnipthomaspr: I even gave you a pastebin link to use...17:05
alexis /go dev17:05
Sidewinderdontknow, Oops, wrong link sorry; this is the one: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo17:05
ActionParsnipthomaspr: ok what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic     USE A PASTEBIN17:05
bswhat is the right way to install the update17:05
dontknowSidewinder, :)17:05
Sidewinderdontknow, Too many windows/channels open, here; my humblest apologies. :)17:06
JessicaWanyone familiar with ubuntu and iscsi?17:06
ActionParsnipbs: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    will install teh latest packages from the repos17:06
SidewinderMinaKumar, WADR, that's not helpful.17:06
rockerfellerNVIDIA graphics card external 10 GB Random,Acess,Memory and a AMD64 processor im very frustrated with this boot issue  GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu13 unknown command sudo17:08
escottbananapie, you could probably get it to work with a 64bit system, but 400MB is a big file17:09
arianarockerfeller, the same issue with my malfunctioned dvd drive17:09
rockerfeller#ubuntu17:09
bshow to know my ubuntu version17:09
bananapieok17:09
bananapiethanks17:09
rockerfellerno when i try to install a OS it doesnt take it i even tryed with WIN17:10
rockerfellerIt kicks it back17:10
dontknowbs launch details app17:10
c0deMasterhow to fix iptables rules permanently ?17:11
bsdontknow, how?17:11
rockerfellersuggestions17:11
escottc0deMaster, if you are not using ufw, you can save your rules to a file and reload them with a custom rule in rc.local17:12
dontknowbs, click unity button and type "details" and launch17:13
capsuleA17:14
MO_Handesanybody have package `pokerth` installed?17:14
Sidewinder!anybody17:15
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:16
ThePendulumHey17:16
dontknowis there a way to open specific ports for specific software with ufw?17:16
escottdontknow, the gufw gui can help you do that17:16
ThePendulumI installed Ubuntu alongside Windows, yet I don´t get a OS choice during boot, it just boots into Windows17:16
dontknowescott, i have it but it allow for every software, for example i want to open 80, 443 ports for chrome17:17
escottdontknow, you should not need to do anything to open outbound ports17:18
dontknowescott, i set outgoing deny17:18
escottdontknow, im not sure if you can have application specific open ports, it might be easier to setup a proxy and then allow that proxy user access17:19
MinaKumarescott: ok17:19
Laikawormmd, I managed to fix it by deleting /home/alexander/.config/autostart/su-to-root.desktop17:20
MinaKumareverybody clap for Laika17:21
LaikaI like that idea17:21
dontknowescott, dont know what you are saying but it is not a big deal for me actually. i will stick with my current ufw configuration17:21
LaikaAnyway, see you guys around17:22
ariana;-)17:22
escottdontknow, at one point i had rules in before.rules +-A ufw-before-output -m owner --uid-owner proxy -j ACCEPT17:22
LaikaThanks for the help wormmd  and Bulletrulz17:22
MinaKumar!anyway17:22
MinaKumar!lol17:22
ubottuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.17:22
EvanRMinaKumar: lol17:23
beandogheh17:23
dontknowi suggest using cinnamon everyone if you are suffering performance with unity17:24
Dr_WillisI suggest xfce, or lubuntu17:24
Dr_Willissince they are supported here. ;)17:24
MinaKumarI suggest Windows17:24
MinaKumarlol17:24
C0deMaver1cklol17:24
dontknowDr_Willis, if someone is using ancient machine, cinnamon is good choice17:25
Dr_Williscinnamon is not suported by this channel. and lubuntu works very well on low end machines17:25
Dr_WillisSomeone was mentioning movie editors earlier today and i cant recall the name of one that has a easy feature to cut a video into 'scenes/parts'17:26
dontknowDr_Willis, i mean if someone using ancient computer they can use xfce, if not and suffer, they can use cinnamon17:26
MinaKumarWindows is the best choice. download it free at http://thepiratebay.com17:26
Dr_WillisI reccomend lubuntu. lxde is not going to vanish overnight like cinnamon could.17:26
dontknowDr_Willis, why it is not supported?17:26
OerHeks!ot | MinaKumar17:26
ubottuMinaKumar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:26
Dr_Willisdontknow:  its not in the official ubuntu repos, so its  not supported by ubuntu, or its devs, or this channel.17:27
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dontknowDr_Willis, they should put in official repos :D17:27
Dr_Willisthey who?17:27
dontknowDr_Willis, canonical17:28
Dr_Willisyou want the ubuntu devs to spend time on it? not likely.17:28
dontknowDr_Willis, it would be better than unity :D17:28
Dr_WillisI find unity works very well.17:29
dontknowDr_Willis, i didn't find17:29
Dr_Willis!cinelerra17:30
ubottuCinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu17:30
dontknowDr_Willis, it is for new systems17:30
Dr_Willisand lubuntu is the reccomendation for low end systems17:30
dontknowDr_Willis, lubuntu is not practical17:31
OerHeksdontknow, try gnome-shell or panel17:31
c0deMasterwhere is the logging file for iptables?17:32
OerHeksc0deMaster, usually in /var/log/17:32
LucidGuyIs Cinamon the default window manager of Linux Mint?  I thought it was simply a custom Gnome217:32
MinaKumarwhy do you always argue about window managers and shit? why don't you use text mode?17:32
dontknowOerHeks, using cinnamon right now, i am ok with it17:32
dontknowLucidGuy, it uses gnome shell17:33
LucidGuydontknow, So then whats Cinamon?17:34
dontknowLucidGuy, gnome3 fork, something like that :D17:34
OerHeks!cinnamon17:34
MinaKumarlol OerHeks there's no information about that17:35
MinaKumarand that shit is not supported here17:35
MinaKumarjoin #cinnamon17:35
OerHekstry to watch your language, MinaKumar.17:35
LucidGuygnome3?  eww.  I thought someone commented that Cinnamon was a fast window manager...  Gnome3 is a big from my experience.17:35
OerHeksLucidGuy, gnome2 is dead.17:36
dontknowwhy ubuntu updates firefox but doesn't update chromium?17:36
LucidGuyOerHeks, not with RHEL17:36
gypsehhey all got a tricky one for ya today.......17:36
gypsehdoes anyone know what to do when somebody wipes the partition table on a drive that had a home folder encrypted?17:37
OerHeksLucidGuy, it is going offtopic, yes, for Fedora too.17:37
MinaKumarOerHeks: don't say that bullshit. gnome 2 is alive as hell17:37
LucidGuyOerHeks, my office is on Lucid still, mainly because of Unity and all the other poor options out there.17:37
escottgypseh, restore the partition table17:37
gypsehi wiped it a few times and it still shows the data there even when the partition table is destroyed and recreated17:37
Dr_Willis!updates17:38
Dr_Willis!update17:38
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:38
escottgypseh, do you want to destroy the data?17:38
gypsehand the worst part is i dont have the key17:38
gypsehyea i have a 60gb ssd that is showing up as a 57gb drive with 1.3gb used17:38
gypsehand with ssds the more data on them the slower they move....so you see why im kinda bugged17:39
mneptok!language > MinaKumar17:39
ubottuMinaKumar, please see my private message17:39
escottgypseh, you could check if your ssd supports ATA TRIM17:39
gypsehit does and it was enabled but i cant seem to disable the !security flag17:40
allen_is there a version of x-lite for ubuntu or an equivalent "softphone" application?17:40
fratermSo, at this point, I think my 12.04 system is fairly destroyed.17:40
dontknowwhy ubuntu updates firefox but doesn't update chromium?17:40
fraterminternal errors with the packaging system.17:40
OerHeks!voip17:40
ubottuVoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX.17:40
fratermkeep happening.17:40
beandogdontknow: they update both17:40
JessicaWanyone familiar with ubuntu and iscsi?17:40
allen_did you install chromium from a non-repository location?17:40
ActionParsnipdontknow: depends whats in the repo, if there is no update to be had it won't be updated....17:40
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fraterm"Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error."17:41
MinaKumarJessicaW: yes, what do you want to know?17:41
Dr_Willisupdates normally happen in packages after release for security or other major bug fixs17:41
gypsehi tried just about every utill i could find one of the tools actually scanned all 60.2 gigs and claimed to wipe it but alas no dice17:41
allen_OerHeks, thanks.17:41
dontknowActionParsnip, but someone can  install firefox or chromium without adding extra repo but it only updates firefox17:41
gypsehis there a program that will remove the security flag\ encryption stuff ?17:42
OerHeksdontknow, chromium 19 will be in the repo soon.17:42
allen_maybe the repository is not getting the updated chromium17:42
escottgypseh, you are going to have to be more specific about things, but i would just mark the whole disk empty with hdparm and trim, and then create a new partition table17:42
Dr_Willis!blender17:42
ubottublender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro17:42
fratermprhaps gypseh the drive really has the new measurement of Gigs rather than the old, and they are counting 1000 instead of 102417:42
JessicaWMinaKumar: I have a weird situation that I can't figure out. using a dell MD3220i with two direct connections. it was mounted by device name. I changed to uuid and after reboot, one of the directories is missing. df -h still shows that 2TB are being used but the two viewable directories are empty.17:42
dontknowOerHeks, you mean official repo?17:42
OerHeksYes.17:42
JessicaWMinaKumar: sorry about the book btw. There's just no short way to explain it.17:43
dontknowOerHeks, how do you know, are you the guy who put it in repo?17:43
gypsehfraterm makes sense but even still post wipe it shows data on the partition17:43
gypsehi tried using hdparm -Y /dev/sda like it said in partedmagic and it does the wipe but no dice17:44
fratermgypseh, well that is ... odd.17:44
gypsehsee i encrypted a home folder....on a few diff failed installs.......(fuck 12.04 and unity......)17:44
gypsehit just likes to die....and kill SSDS17:45
escott!language | gypseh17:45
ubottugypseh: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.17:45
dontknowOerHeks, it is too late, there will probably be second v19 update  soon, ubuntu is late unfortunately17:45
gypsehso is there anything i can do to fix this?17:45
escottgypseh, why dont you paste exactly what you are doing and what you are seeing17:45
escott!paste | gypseh17:45
ubottugypseh: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:45
escottgypseh, you are being far too vague for us to offer any help17:47
sfsf32oi17:49
gypsehescott17:49
fratermI would find pasting the contents of my particular error easy, if I could actually copy and paste the text in some of these error dialogues.17:50
gypsehi used the encypt home folder option on a few diff failed installs and simply wiped instead of decrypting and now i have lost space that i can not partition it to see the full disk17:50
fratermI'll have to screenshot these things.17:50
Dr_Willisa pastebin of 'sudo fdisk -l' may be helpfull17:51
beandogyou don't need sudo17:51
beandogor yes you do.  derp.17:52
sfsf32 Is there a version of ubuntu designed for not-nerd people?17:52
Sidewinder!pastebinit | fraterm17:52
ubottufraterm: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com17:52
gypsehand when i wipe it regardless of what tools i use the partition menu only alows me to make a 57gb partition and on top of that it says theres 1.30gb used even after making a new partition table and what not17:52
gypsehand no i dont see how thats vague at all17:52
Dr_Willisand how big is this hard drive?17:52
Ca11umHey guys.17:52
gypsehits default ubuntu encryption.......and i did the thing like 4 seprate times17:52
escottgypseh, how about the output of sudo parted -l /dev/sdb for a start17:52
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gypsehits a 60.02gb ocz ssd sata III17:53
Ca11umDoes anybody know a list of what LDAP offers to domains?17:53
Ca11umI find the documentation so in-depth, you can't actually find out what to use it for17:53
fratermSidewinder, fine and good, but these errors are actually coming from things that a control+C and a right click copy will not copy.17:53
fratermthough they are text17:53
gypsehescott what part of i cant take screens or boot into an os via the ssd did you not understand?17:53
sfsf32 Is there a version of ubuntu designed for not-nerd people?17:53
Ca11umMacintosh?17:53
fratermthe dialogue boxes do not expose the content of the error message in such a way that I can paste them.17:54
gypsehi only stated that i am on a seprate box 5 times......17:54
beandogsfsf32: all of them are pretty user-friendly17:54
escottgypseh, the part where you are unwilling to do anything to get help17:54
gypsehescott stop being a dick17:54
Sidewinderfraterm, Nothin's ever easy; I just thought that pastebinit might help; sorry for butting in. :)17:54
Dr_Willisa live cd would be handy in this case.17:54
Mitchell_MHey everyone, wondering if there was anyone who has tried to use a bash script to disable account list login page that worked on Ubuntu 10 but not on 122?17:54
mneptok!attitude | gypseh17:54
ubottugypseh: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines17:54
fratermSidewinder, nah, just expressing some frustration at the error dialogues.17:54
Mitchell_MIf anyone has this problem can you tell me how you solved it17:54
SidewinderUnderstood.17:54
Dr_WillisMitchell_M: 'account list login page' ? whats that exactly?17:55
Mitchell_MOh, and that's supposed to say 12 not 12217:55
gypsehi simply asked wtf to do to undo encryption when the key has been lost theres no generic method?17:55
Mitchell_MDr_Willis You know that startup page when you install ubuntu that shows the accounts you have17:55
beandoggypseh: you lost the encryption key?17:55
Dr_WillisMitchell_M:  you mean the 'login screen' ?17:55
lelamal!wtf gypseh17:55
beandoggypseh: do you wanna delete the entire thing?17:55
mneptokgypseh: if you could do that easily, it would hardly be a secure system, would it?17:55
beandogbecause otherwise you're screwed17:55
Ca11umUm, how can I get a list of all external network connections to this machine?17:55
gypsehyea i said it was encrypted then the kernel update failed...soo i formatted it17:55
Mitchell_MYep, sorry for using a funny name17:55
Ca11umSomething very weird just happened, like somebody remote controlling the mouse17:56
gypsehcause i had no means to go in manually and repair it at the time17:56
ActionParsnipCa11um: do you use VNC?17:56
Dr_WillisMitchell_M:  LightDM is whats used by 12.04 - any of your tweaks/hacks for the old  reelase wont work.17:56
Ca11umNope17:56
Dr_WillisMitchell_M:  check out various lightdm tweak/configs to get it how you want.17:56
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ActionParsnipCa11um: if you run: netstat -tap      it will show the connections17:56
Ca11umAll I've installed is Steam (via Wine), XChat, and Thunderbird17:56
Mitchell_MDr_Willis: I see, okay. I'll look into that17:56
Ca11umThanks, ActionParsnip17:57
Ca11umSeems to be nothing, but it was weird17:57
Ca11umMouse randomly moved around the screen, dragged, and then right-clicked17:57
gypsehand now it wont let me partition to the full size of the drive...and when i partition......it says 57.8gb partition with 1.3gb used....even after formatting17:58
mneptokgypseh: formatting to what filesystem?17:58
gypsehso some how.... there has to be a way to disable the !security flag that hirens sees17:58
electhorubuntuforums17:58
gypsehi have tried ntfs fat32 and ext417:58
hackerinawow17:58
ActionParsnipCa11um: is the system a laptop?17:59
gypsehyea i really railed the pooch on this one.......17:59
mneptokgypseh: ext4 will reserve blocks for root's use17:59
Dr_Willis5% reserved of 60gb =17:59
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: about 4.5Gb18:00
ActionParsnipsorry 3Gb ish18:00
gypsehok.......but when there is NO Os it still tells me the partition can only be 57gb18:00
Dr_Willisof course even if its a 60gb. you will loose some to various inode/other things.18:00
gypsehand prior to this it was 6018:00
Dr_Willishow are you setting it to use 'no' os? is the question18:01
gypsehno im saying there is no os on the drive........i have been using a thumb drive to run utills to recover it18:01
gypsehi have it scanning for bad sectors as we speak18:01
gypsehin an attempt that it will label the encrypted stuff as bad and remove it18:02
Dr_Willisa drive marketed as 60gb.. having 57gb of actual partionable useable space.. sounds about right to me.18:02
beandogwell if you're formatting it as extX then it's going to reserve space for root18:02
Ca11umNo ActionParsnip; Desktop (Ethernet)18:02
beandoguse tune2fs to change the amount reserved18:02
Dr_Willisif you  use 'dd' to zero the drive.. it will be erased. :)18:02
mneptokgypseh: it does not matter. it's formatted. formatting ususally marks bad blocks, creates journals, and otherwise has overhead by way of disk space used.18:02
ActionParsnipbeandog: not in ext2 ;)18:02
beandogDr_Willis: That was gonna be my next suggestion18:02
beandogActionParsnip: true that18:02
Sidewindergypseh, If you haven't already tried, you might look into the "dd" command; I think it overwrites with 0s and 1s; I don't know how it will handle the encryption flag, though. Maybe worth a try..18:02
gypsehwell first off i know i need to remove this !security flag18:02
ActionParsnipbut a hit of 3Gb for the benfits of the journal is very wothwhile18:03
beandoggypseh: I'd zero out at least hte first few megs of the device.18:03
Dr_Willisgypseh:  there aint much that will survive  a zeroing by dd.18:03
gypsehsidewinder i tried that18:03
Sidewinder:)18:03
gypsehits as if its a partition inside a partition.........wrapped in a forcefield......18:03
SidewinderWorth a shot.18:03
beandogYou *could* format the entire drive as a partition, instead of selecting a parition.18:03
mneptokgypseh: have you considered booting off an Ubuntu Live CD and using the tools there?18:03
beandogmkfs.ext3 /dev/sda for example18:03
gypsehtried that stuff18:04
gypsehit doesnt let me adjust the part over 57gb anymore.....18:04
Ca11umSo with LDAP, user accounts can be stored on a server, and users can log into a single account from all the domain machines?18:04
beandoggypseh: zero it out.  It'll take forever, but it will *certainly* remove everything.18:04
mneptokgypseh: a drive labelled as 60GB will not actually have 60GB usuable space.18:04
Ca11umWith synchronous documents18:04
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gypsehit does have 60gb usable its an ssd.....18:05
morsnowskigypseh, did you try to boot with 'ro selinux=0'18:05
beandoggypseh: he means, marketed as 60 GB does not mean free space is 60 GB18:05
beandoggypseh:  it is ALWAYS less.18:05
beandogBy about 5%18:05
raptor67682hi how to know the temperature of teh CPU and the level of usb of USB electricity ?18:06
Sidewinder60-5%=5718:06
anonfreakhi all18:06
anonfreakhi all18:07
SidewinderHi18:07
mneptokgypseh: it does not matter if it's an SSD. it's that storage OEMs calcualte 1,000 kilobytes as a megabyte, and the closest binary is 1.024. OEMs cheat.18:07
ActionParsnipraptor67682: look into lm-sensors18:07
anonfreaki had a question18:07
escottraptor67682, sensors/lm-sensors will tell you the cpu temp. for usb voltage i have no idea. maybe /sys?18:07
MinaKumarraptor67682: use a thermometer18:08
anonfreakanyone knows how to use Havij18:08
oCeanMinaKumar: be helpful, stop nonsense replies18:08
mneptokMinaKumar: unhelpful, and you have been since joining. stop.18:08
beandograptor67682: acpi might show it as well ... acpi -Va, if I remember right18:09
beandograptor67682: if it's a laptop18:09
MinaKumaranonfreak: persian?18:09
anonfreakanyone knows how to use Havij18:09
anonfreak?18:09
mneptok!repeat | anonfreak18:10
ubottuanonfreak: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:10
MinaKumaranonfreak: persian?18:10
MinaKumar!anyone | anonfreak18:10
ubottuanonfreak: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:10
anonfreakwhat is persian?18:10
beandoganonfreak: just ignore him18:10
RomanceHello guys im currently monitoring my resources , i dont open web browser, i dont download anything, the things i only using now is IRC Client + system monitor, but why i keep receiving (download) 66KBps every 3 seconds ? are there any something i dont see 'downloading' behind me?18:12
ronhow do I find out where the openssl packages are installed?18:12
ActionParsnipRomance: look into ntop18:13
olskolircyou see this where Romance18:13
beandogRomance: it's probably IRC ... 66k is *very* small18:13
MindSparkhi. I am not sure what this 12.04 version is for. But just out of curiosity, did Ubuntu change their "Linux for human beings" slogan ?18:13
Romancesystem monitor (resource tab)18:13
Romance66k is not small , 0.6mbps18:13
mneptokMindSpark: is there a support question in there somewhere? this is a support channel.18:13
beandogRomance: a text file with a few lines is 66k.  It's miniscule.18:14
BlouBlouRomance: 66kbs is not 0.6 mbs18:15
olskolircyes MindSpark they changed it to Linux for humans that are a glutton for punishment18:15
mneptokRomance: 600K is .6M. 66K is .066M.18:15
beandogokay, more than a few lines.  But still.18:15
Romancebeandog : yeah i did close my IRC client, i dont do any internet surfing, monitoring it still giving me 66-90 kbps every 3 seconds , 'something' is downloading that i dont see maybe18:15
MindSparkok, then how do I stop apport from popping up all the time, then, when trying to report anything that has crashed (unfortunately it just says something went wrong without saying what did), another instance pops up saying that apport has crashed18:15
ActionParsnipMindSpark: its still linux for human beings18:15
MindSparkthen it must be me that's not human anymore18:16
beandogRomance: downloading or uploading?  It could just be local network traffic18:16
ActionParsnipMindSpark: works just as well....18:16
beandogcould be anything18:16
GRMrGeckoHello. MySQL is giving me the error 1148 when using LOCAL INFILE.  I've read that this issue is due to the MySQL package on Ubuntu being compiled without it.18:16
BrustofskiIs this a cinnamon issue or refresh rate issue? screen flickers or flashs like crazy like when opening and closing vlc or something eles... i'm in 12.04... I noticed the samething in mint 13 rc to!!18:16
GRMrGeckoIs there plans to fix it?18:16
ActionParsnipBrustofski: cinnamon and mint are offtopic here18:16
MindSparkI've been trying to work for an hour without xorg crashing on me all day long18:17
BlouBlouRomance: ISP pings your computer, also regular pings, updates checker, email checker, msn...18:17
MindSparkI reinstalled, reformatted and downgraded then upgraded again18:17
ActionParsnipMindSpark: are you fully updated?18:17
MindSparkActionParsnip, unfortunately yes18:17
CJKayHi guys, I'm building myself an Ubuntu remix and have used some cool tools on the net to build a very bare Ubuntu (but still Ubuntu). I have changed some files round, but I checked the disc for 'defects' (probably just something I did) but it all scrolls way too quickly for me to know what the single error at the end is. Any way to check from the terminal?18:17
ActionParsnipMindSpark: tried Unity2D session?18:17
MindSparkI used to be able to click command-x or c-s and get the viewport18:17
MindSparkActionParsnip, yes, I am on U2d now18:18
MindSparkI don't see a difference though18:18
ActionParsnipMindSpark: have you tested your RAM?18:18
BrustofskiActionParsnip, I was just wondering if it's an issie with cinnamon or if it's a refresh rate issue... Cause i have no refresh settings in display!!18:18
muh2000hi18:18
MindSparkActionParsnip, how do I do that?18:18
ActionParsnipBrustofski: cinnamon isn't supported here18:18
muh2000how can i edit the adressbar in 12.04?18:18
ActionParsnipMindSpark: hold shift at boot, then select it from Grub18:18
MindSparkalright, thanks, be back in a bit18:18
ActionParsnipmuh2000: address bar of what? Firefox? Thunar? Chromium????18:19
muh2000ActionParsnip: file browser for broswing network shares that are hidden...18:19
BrustofskiActionParsnip, Who know's if it's Cinnamon.. I seen on google someone saying it could be refresh18:19
Brustofskirate18:19
ActionParsnipBrustofski: try a different desktop to test..18:20
Brustofskiok...18:20
tarskiim in a loop where mysql install is half installed and broken and apt-get keeps trying to install it with each apt-x command. how can i completely remove it18:21
beandogtarski: do you care about your databases?18:21
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RGErrDayhello18:23
WizardGood evening.18:24
bshow to change gener for multi audio files at once18:24
Dr_Willisbs:  thers various id3 tag editor tools in the repos18:25
bsDr_Willis, how to get it i'm beginner18:26
Dr_Willisbs:  fire up the 'software center' and look for id3 tag editors18:26
alex__cbs : EasyTag should be able to help18:26
Dr_Willis!info easytag18:26
ubottueasytag (source: easytag): viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.7-1ubuntu2 (precise), package size 968 kB, installed size 2887 kB18:26
ZenMasterHi guys. I am trying to install a application called Voluntis. I am kind of lost on these instructions.18:27
Dr_WillisI still wonder on a video file. the thumbnail is a single frame.. how does it decide what frame to use? and how can i have it select a specific frame.18:27
ZenMasterpastebin.com/2fcAQ52M18:27
beandogDr_Willis: what ar eyou trying  to do?18:28
bsDr_Willis, ok i installed it but donno how to run it i can't find it in the softwear home18:28
Dr_Willisbeandog:  change the thumbnail frame/image to be the face of the grandkid instead of his backside... ;)18:28
Dr_Willisbs:  no idea. i dont use the app.18:29
savrI save a file in gedit18:29
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: could grab an image and change the icon for that file to whatever you want18:29
savrand it crash just after18:29
savrand it did save the file :(18:29
Dr_WillisActionParsnip:  just trying to figure out how it decides what frame to use. thoght it was an id3 tag or somthing.18:29
Dr_WillisActionParsnip:  noticed if i reencode the video - it often changes18:29
ZenMasterFeel free to drop me a msg if you know what I am talking about. :D18:29
savror when I went to open the file again it wasn't there18:29
vindavActionParsnip:  Do you have a few minutes as my keyboard input is here nor there in terms of providing consistent HMI to my windows in Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS ?18:30
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: not sure tbh. Maybe its random. Could clear the thumbnails, see if the same is chosen18:30
Dr_WillisActionParsnip:  i wa thinking it was like 10 sec into the video.. but havent seen any rhyme to it.18:31
Dr_Williswindows does seem to select the same thumbnail image. which made me think its part of the video file.18:31
ActionParsnipvindav: do you mean windows in a virtualbox?18:31
Dr_WillisPlaying with Openshot. :) fairly nice video editor tool.18:32
beandogDr_Willis: huh, never heard of this one18:32
bshow to run id3 tag editor18:33
GRMrGeckojust asked my question here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+question/19810718:33
vindavActionParsnip:  No, it is when I am using the distro, even when I open up a browser, a word document, e-mail prgm, or whatever, it seems that typing is there, then it locks up, and that it takes time to even do backspacing and deleting.18:33
Dr_Willisim basically having to take a HUGE long video file and split it into smaller clips for the wife.18:33
ActionParsnipvindav: also how does the keyboard co18:33
raptor67682which package has the possibility to get the CPU temperature for CLI (non sensor wiht x111 stuffs)?18:33
ActionParsnipConnect18:33
CJKayIs there any way of slowing down the output of the "check disc for defects" option on the Live CD menu?18:33
Dr_Willisbs:  just run the command 'easytag'18:34
ActionParsnipraptor67682: sudo sensors     will show the data in cli18:34
bsDr_Willis, how i'm new18:34
Dr_Willisbs:  or hit the Big Ubunt button and type 'easy' it shows easy tag...18:34
Dr_Willisbs:  you might want to hit up some unity starter guides..18:34
Dr_WillisOR... hit the alt key.. and type 'easy' and it shows up18:35
Dr_Willisor alt-f2 and type 'easy' and it shows up... ;)18:35
vindavActionParsnip:  When the keyboard works, it does, when it doesn't it is intermittent.  I tried resetting the 2.4GHz radio for it and it doesn't change things; I replaced the battery in it, and it still doesn't change things.  The mouse that pairs with it is good.18:35
ActionParsnipvindav: and the first question I asked....?18:36
Ca11umNoob question: Is a  computer's power consumption static or dynamic?18:37
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Ca11umi.e. Does a more efficient OS use less power?18:37
MinaKumarActionParsnip: you should not ask question. you must answer and support18:37
vindavActionParsnip:  vindav: also how does the keyboard co18:37
Dr_WillisCa11um:  mondern computers throttle down to save power.18:37
ActionParsnipCa11um: it changes with load18:37
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Ca11umSo a Linux server would save energy, compared to Windows Server?18:37
Dr_Willisdepends on the system/cpu load.18:38
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Dr_Willisless load = less heat = less cooling which saves more power then just having less load. ;)18:38
Ca11umThe server does nothing except Active Directory (or I guess, LDAP for Linux's case)18:38
ActionParsnipMinaKumar: in order to support I need basic details. How else do you intend I get this if I cannot enquirie about the situation18:38
ActionParsnipvindav: is the windows system running in a virtualbox?18:39
vindavActionParsnip:  No18:39
negrahello, i having problems to recognize wireless device, the privative drivers say it is using the wireless driver, but no wifi interface found18:40
negraany guide please ?18:40
negra Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN18:40
Ca11umAnybody reckon Linux usage in the future will drastically increase?18:40
MercengHello, what's the best (easy to set up wise) IRC daemon for Ubuntu?18:40
ActionParsnipvindav: so how is windows a factor here? You mentioned it earlier.18:40
Dr_WillisCa11um:  it is increaseing every day18:41
beandogCa11um: I don't see it decreasing, if that's what you mean18:41
Ca11umWell so is the world population, I mean in comparison to other OS'18:41
Ca11umWindows, Macintosh mainly18:41
ActionParsnip!broadcom | negra18:41
ubottunegra: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:41
Dr_WillisCa11um:  it is increaseing every day :) even with that crita18:41
mneptok!offtopic18:41
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:41
SidewinderCa11um, Off topic chit-chat would probably be better in #ubuntu-offtopic. :-)18:42
HKthis18:43
ActionParsnipMerceng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer18:43
Mercengthanks18:43
vindavActionParsnip:  Whether I am using Firefox browser, or Thunderbird e-mail prgm or using a LibreOffice spreadsheet or document writer, typing is inconsistent at best.  Sometimes I have to wait a while before I can start typing because the window will not respond to any typing I do.  Sometimes the mouse doesn't want to cooperate in terms of providing editing.18:44
Ca11umSidewinder: I always find that a problem on Freenode; I always start a discussion, and there's already a channel for everything18:44
ActionParsnipvindav: tried unity2d session from the login screen18:45
ghabitHello. I have ubuntu 12.04. Nvidia drivers installed. I have two monitors - but in settings - monitors I can see only one monitor. How I can use the second? Switch between them, or expand them.18:45
ghabitHelp!18:45
negraThis package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.18:45
vindavActionParsnip:   What do you mean ?18:45
negrabut no wireless interface are detected, only eth018:46
ActionParsnipghabit: if you hit the 'detect displays' button, does it activate18:46
vindavghabit:   I can help you on that.  Is you nVidia gui open ?18:46
SidewinderCa11um, I know what you mean; this channel especially gets exceedingly busy as it's support only.. OT is a nice channel to hang and chill.18:46
ghabitActionParsnip, nope, nothing is happen.18:46
vindavghabit:  Do you also have both monitors connected to your video card ?18:46
ActionParsnipvindav: logoff and choose the unity2D session18:46
vindavActionParsnip:  I'll do that now.  I'll be right back18:47
ghabitvindav, nope, but i will open it now. Yes, they are both connected. Main via vga, secondary via hdmi18:47
the-penguinMy gpg keys have disappeared18:47
the-penguincan't update my system18:47
ActionParsnipthe-penguin: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update18:48
ZenMasterI have a question about some instructions for installing the Volantis application. I have posted them here http://pastebin.com/2fcAQ52M18:49
ghabitHello. I have ubuntu 12.04. Nvidia drivers installed. I have two monitors - but in settings - monitors I can see only one monitor. How I can use the second? Switch between them, or expand them.18:49
toumboI want to fill a bug but this page appears! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net18:51
vltfidel_: Assuming I keep Unity … What is “myunity” and does it create conf files I could edit automatically to hide “Log out …” and “Soft up to date” (for all users)?18:51
toumboWhat should I do to type the bug18:51
vindavActionParsnip:  I switched to Ubuntu 2D, and it seems to be working now.  Do you know why this is ? Will the developer of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS put a fix in for the next update ?18:51
vindavghabit:  I just logged back in.  R you still there ?18:51
ActionParsnipvindav: unity uses compiz. Unity2D uses metacity afaik18:52
ActionParsnipvindav: maybe your video hardware struggles with compiz18:52
ZenMasterDrop me a msg if you can provide some assistance. :) Thanks in advance.18:53
alusionMy internet browsers have been extremely slow / losing connection and just plain bad lately, whats up?18:53
ActionParsniptoumbo: try running: ubuntu-bug packagename18:53
HoNgOuRuhi, I am logged to an Active directory domain from my ubuntu box, I want to share a folder with samba, people can open my pc icon and see the shared floder, but they are not able to get into the shared folder... need help with this cause my boss is hurrying me up.... ;)18:53
HoNgOuRuhelp18:54
moopHello, I sseem to be having difficulty setting my nameservers in 10.0418:54
vindavActionParsnip:  I guess that makes sense.  It was really frustrating.  Now may I ask, since I switched over to Unity 2D which is using metacity afaik, what are my advantages and disadvantages ? What is my functionality now compared to what it was before ?18:54
moop12.0418:54
toumboActionParsnip the bug is about plymouth and grub resolution(monitor out of range)... Where should I fill it?18:54
moopive tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/140688/upgraded-server-to-12-04-dns-no-longer-working18:54
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HoNgOuRuplease help ASAP18:54
moopHoNgOuRu, what do you need help with?18:55
deejay31Is ZNC likely to use more that 100gb bandwith in a month?18:55
HoNgOuRumoop, read 3 6 messages up18:55
ActionParsnipvindav: metacity is lighter and less complex. It causes fewer stupid issues that compiz can cause.18:55
deejay31On #ubuntu18:55
HoNgOuRusorry 6 messages18:55
moopHoNgOuRu, i just joined, read 3 messages up18:55
HoNgOuRuok ok18:55
HoNgOuRumoop18:55
HoNgOuRuhi, I am logged to an Active directory domain from my ubuntu box, I want to share a folder with samba, people can open my pc icon and see the shared floder, but they are not able to get into the shared folder... need help with this cause my boss is hurrying me up.... ;)18:56
vindavActionParsnip:  Thanks.  I guess you've had your share of prblms there 2 eh ?18:56
moopwhy not give them the method you used to access it18:56
vltHello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?18:56
ghabitvindav, I'm here! ^)18:56
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moopand no need for the proxy18:56
ActionParsniptoumbo: did you try editting /etc/default/grub   and uncomment the resolution line and set it to 1024x76818:57
HoNgOuRumoop,  people can see me on the net, but the share I made is buggy i suppose....18:57
vindavghabit:  I have had the problem you've had, and can help.  Do you have the nVidia gui open ?18:57
ActionParsnipvindav: none actually. I've just seen them here far too often18:57
moopis there a search function for this chat to scour the help docs?18:57
ghabitvindav, yep.18:57
toumboActionParsnip Yes of course I solve this problem every clean installation since natty! Thanks to startupmanager!18:58
moopHoNgOuRu, look up samba in the ubuntu docs18:58
Dr_Willis!info samba-doc18:58
ubottusamba-doc (source: samba): Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1 (precise), package size 1646 kB, installed size 6959 kB18:58
HoNgOuRumoop thank you... I DID...18:58
vindavnhabit:  ok, click open the  'X Server Display Configuration' if you have both monitors connected to your video card..18:59
ActionParsniptoumbo: you'll need to run: sudo update-grub    to apply the change18:59
deejay31ActionParsnip: Is ZNC likely to use more that 100gb bandwith in a month?18:59
ghabitvindav, done.18:59
ActionParsnip!info znc18:59
ubottuznc (source: znc): advanced modular IRC bouncer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.206-1 (precise), package size 1221 kB, installed size 2912 kB18:59
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toumboActionParsnip but I'm annoyed if i know that I'll do this for every new version of ubuntu :P19:00
ActionParsnipdeejay31: not sure. Not even heard of it til now. Sorry19:00
deejay31Oh ok19:00
vindavWhich small window within this tab that you see that is highlighted and is there a small box checked off to say that it is the primary display for the X screen ?19:00
ActionParsniptoumbo: worth a shot. Its only a bootsplash...19:00
toumboActionParsnip As I said I solved it about a mounth ago. I Just want to prevent it in the future19:00
toumboActionParsnip Do you know in which section in launchpad should I fill this bug?19:01
ActionParsniptoumbo: could report the bug with:   ubuntu-bug plymouth19:01
ubunlexHELP! i am trying to install ati tv tuner 550 to watch and record programs on my ubuntu but i couldnt please help19:01
vindavghabit:  Which small window within this tab that you see that is highlighted and is there a small box checked off to say that it is the primary display for the X screen ?19:02
ghabitvindav, i have no checkbox there with 'default' checkbox19:02
Ca11umSo is this the biggest IRC channel to ever exist?19:02
ghabitvindav, secondary monitor looks disabled.19:02
ZZz-RANDOMwhere is xorg.conf located in ubuntu?19:03
ActionParsnipCa11um: thats offtopic here. Try asking in #freenode19:03
vindavghabit:  I'll give you a screenshot in a sec to ask you a few more questions.19:03
ghabitvindav, ok!19:03
toumboActionParsnip thanks a lot!! :)19:03
ActionParsnipZZz-RANDOM: by default there isn't one but if you put one in /etc/X11 it will be obeyed19:04
ActionParsniptoumbo: np :-)19:04
ZZz-RANDOMhmm, then from where are settings being read/automaically-generated?19:05
vindavghabit:  do you have this seen in your nVidia gui ?   http://imagebin.org/21346219:06
ActionParsnipZZz-RANDOM: udev19:06
ZZz-RANDOMthx19:06
LinuxMonkey!xorgconf | ZZz-RANDOM19:06
ubottuZZz-RANDOM: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.19:06
ghabitvindav, well, i have to choose twin view, right?19:07
Mitchell_MWhat should I use in a script to add a program (e.g. MATLAB, LABWORKS, etc.) to the Ubuntu task bar for easy access for clients?19:07
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vindavghabit:  yes you do.19:07
ghabitvindav, do you use gnome or unity?19:07
hwildewhy does the ctrl+c key not work anymore in my terminals??19:07
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NewWorldhwilde:  which terminals have you tried?19:08
hwildeI dunno the default one that I always used19:08
hwildewas there an update or something?  ctrl+c does NOTHING19:08
NewWorldhwilde:  try in another terminal then19:08
hwildectrl+d works, ctrl+z works....19:08
hwildeI tried many terminals.19:08
ghabitvindav, can you show me your options of secondary monitor? Is it possible to have this options @ system options instead of nvidia application?19:08
NewWorldhwilde:  i mean a different terminal emulator program19:08
Tengo_hambrehi to  everybody19:08
ActionParsnipMitchell_M: make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications   I suggest copying one from ~/.config/autostart as a skeleton file as they are simpler19:09
NewWorldhwilde:  konsole, xterm, urxvt, etc.19:09
yashwanthi19:09
ghabitvindav, and main question - twin view allows 'expand' monitors - menu on primary, additional space on secondary, how i can switch between them?19:09
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ghabiti mean working only 1 monitor, then only 2 monitor.19:09
ActionParsniphwilde: ctrl+shift+[cv]    to copy/paste.19:10
Mitchell_MActionParsnip: Thanks19:10
vindavghabit:  I use Unity.  Its smarter, and faster to find things and it's intuitive if you don't know what to look for.  I use to use gnome.  Twinview must be selected for both monitors that you want active.  I will show you the screenshot of my secondary monitor.  BTW, do you just want one monitor on, or have both on ? The nVidia gui will allow you to do both.19:10
alfatauhello! i need to display users full name at login screen. Because some of them are quite long, is there a way to increase the side panel displaying full names on lightdm login screen. thank you for your attention.19:10
yashwanti have some proble in empthy chat , while calling or comming call, ringer is not working what is happining in betwwen calling why sound is not indicating19:11
ActionParsnipvindav: by using unity, you are using gnome desktop.19:11
yashwantyes19:11
hwildeActionParsnip, nah just ctrl+c like cancel, escape, etc.19:12
hwildelike if I run  tail -f on a logfile, I cannot ctrl+c anymore19:12
DrManhattanIm using 64 bit linux with 4g ram in the box. I'm only showing 3954 ram in the system, not the 4096 that is actually installed in there19:12
hwildeor if I run a ping for example, ctrl+c does not cancel it19:12
ActionParsnipvindav: unity is just a replacement for gnome-shell in older releases19:12
ActionParsniphwilde: ahh19:12
ochkanпривет19:12
jo-erlendI need to figure out exactly which release something went wrong, so I need old images. Where do I get them? On old.releases.ubuntu.com, I only see 8.04, then 10.04. I need the ones in between.19:12
vindavghabit:  oops, even though I am using Unity, I am using gnome desktop.  Here is the screenshot of my secondary monitor.  Also, unity is just a replacement for gnome-shell in older releases.  http://imagebin.org/21346619:13
ActionParsnipDrManhattan: do you use onboard video chip?19:13
sarsaeolhwilde: does ctrl+z work to stop your pings, etc?19:13
DrManhattanNo19:13
DrManhattanActionParsnip, no, geforce 8400gs dedicated19:13
hwildesarsaeol, it backgrounds them, then I can kill them19:13
* ekv hello all19:14
jo-erlendah. It's old-releases, not old.releases. :)19:14
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jackiechan0hi there my windows borders are disappeared how can i fix ?19:14
ActionParsnipjo-erlend: you can upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 directly. LTS to LTS upgrade19:14
vindavghabit:  when you 'disable' the configuration for a monitor, It'll shut the display to it.19:14
jo-erlendActionParsnip, I'm trying to find out if audio stopped working in 9.04 or in 9.10. I can't spend hours and hours upgrading just for that. :)19:15
toumbohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1003074 19:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1003074 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Unable to adapt correct resolution with LG L1919S" [Undecided,New]19:15
toumboActionParsnip It is correct?19:15
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ActionParsniptoumbo: looks fine :-)19:16
vindavghabit:  What's happening for u ?19:16
ActionParsnipjo-erlend: cdimage may have it. Or torrent sites19:17
jo-erlendActionParsnip, old-releases.u-c.19:17
nick_hello19:17
jo-erlendActionParsnip, I thought it was old.releases.u-c. That makes a difference. :)19:17
ghabitvindav, thank you a lot for help!19:17
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ActionParsnipAs long as it passes md5sum, source is moot :-)19:18
hwildehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/31794819:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 317948 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) " ctrl+c doesn't interrupt running process" [Low,Triaged]19:18
vivienre19:18
OerHeksjo-erlend, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/19:18
Guest13123I need some help getting ati graphics drivers for the radeon hd 6310 notebook graphics to work with ubuntu/precise, anybody been able to do so?19:18
ActionParsniphwilde: tried in xterm?19:19
Guest13123yeah19:19
Guest13123nothings been workin19:19
ActionParsnip!ati19:19
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto19:19
Guest13123Already done this one and it doesn't work for me for some reason, i even tried the alternative and built a specific package. didn't work at all19:20
DrManhattanyeah ubuntu is showing the wrong amount of actual memory on my system, it appears that Im missing 50mb ram19:20
yashwantif any one have a depth knowledge abou sound in linux please help me .19:21
ActionParsnipyashwant: ask and the channel will reply19:22
escottDrManhattan, probably kernel memory19:22
DrManhattanhttp://pastebin.me/d6d2a56387d9d43e534639216211b499  <--- here is the issue I am having with my ram19:22
WissHi.. I'd appreciate some help here as well as I have not been able to find a solution to a login issue i have been experiencing19:22
jackiechan0hi there my windows borders are disappeared how can i fix ?19:22
DrManhattankernel memory doesnt get seen by the system?:19:22
WissI am unable to launch any app from the launcher menu after login19:22
jackiechan0hi there my windows borders are disappeared how can i fix ?19:23
ActionParsnipjackiechan0: press Alt+F2 and run: unity --replace19:23
Wissthe app icon becomes highlighted but then nothing happens ... it only works after several relogins19:23
KM0201yashwant: thats pretty application specific.. you might have better luck seeking out empathy support.19:23
vindavghabit:  did everything work out for you in this matter ?19:23
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: i'm running Natty19:24
escottDrManhattan, various bits of memory are reserved for different purposes and fall under the "kernel memory" banner, but free is a user-space tool so it won't see that memory19:24
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: Gnome19:24
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Wisson 12.04 precise LTS19:24
DrManhattanescott, right on, as long as all is well.19:24
ActionParsnipjackiechan0: then use:  compiz --replace19:24
DrManhattannow, I took the nouveau driver up and Im seeing some disturbing things when I boot- apparently a bunch of services are starting AND stopping when I boot19:25
DrManhattanthings like ssh19:25
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: yeah but the problem is that all the time that i press on the windows menu on the top left the border disappears19:25
DrManhattanI can see the list of services when the system boots, but I can't find any record of the boot19:25
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: the windows menu is not usable anymore, a way to fix that?19:25
ActionParsnipjackiechan0: press Ctrl+Alt+T   and run it there19:26
escottDrManhattan, /var/log/boot.log19:26
jo-erlendjackiechan0, do you mean the menu where you have File, Edit, etc?19:26
jackiechan0jo-erlend: no the menu in the top lef the little arrow that show you the windows menu so you can move the windows to another work space etc.19:27
jackiechan0jackiechan0: it disappeared when i press on it windows border disappears19:27
jo-erlendActionParsnip, he's talking about the menu that used to be on the left side when the window controls were on the right, I think.19:27
jelliebellieHow do I enter advanced menu options on Ubuntu Alternative CD, like I would be able to with debian?19:27
DrManhattanescott, would you please check out http://pastebin.me/d6d2a56387d9d43e534639216211bad4  and tell me if this is normal for booting?19:28
DrManhattanat least with ubuntu19:28
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: all the time that i press the arrow the windows border disappear19:28
jackiechan0jo-erlend: how can i fix that?19:28
jo-erlendjackiechan0, when a window is not maximized; if you right-click the titlebar, does that give you the menu you're looking for?19:28
escottDrManhattan, drives are clean services are ok. looks like a normal boot19:28
ActionParsnip jelliebellie advanced options like what?19:28
jackiechan0jo-erlend: yeah it works right clicking19:28
jackiechan0jo-erlend: way yo fix that permanetly ?19:29
DrManhattanescott, ok then for my own curiosity, why is it "stopping" services that aren't running before starting them - like sshd19:29
vindavActionParsnip:  It's starting again where it is a PIA to type from the keyboard.  Would it be wise to uninstall Compiz from my desktop ?19:29
jackiechan0??19:29
yashwantKM0201, then how to solve our problem or which chant software will work better in linux19:29
jackiechan0jo-erlend: way yo fix that permanetly ? ActionParsnip19:29
jackiechan0jo-erlend: way yo fix that permanently ? ActionParsnip19:30
ActionParsnipvindav: you could. It doesnt use much drive space19:30
KM0201yashwant: i have no iddea, but a problem that is that specific to an application, is better pursued through that programs support options19:30
jo-erlendjackiechan0, there used to be one.. A gconf key that you could set to switch the layout for your window controls, but I'm not sure they're working anymore.19:30
escottDrManhattan, not sure, but its probably just the way the scripts were written. theoretically one could be changing runlevels instead of booting and therefore the service would already be running19:30
jackiechan0jo-erlend: :(19:30
ActionParsnipjackiechan0: did the command sort it?19:30
jo-erlendjackiechan0, don't give up. :)19:31
DrManhattanescott, ok, thank you for your patience19:31
jelliebellieActionParsnip: like this http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/installguide/36debian.png19:31
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: which command ? if reload compit the border re appears the problem is that the windows menu on the top  left doesn't work and if i try to acces it the windows borders disappear again19:31
jo-erlendActionParsnip, he's talking about the window menu. That is, the button that used to be on the left when close, minimize and maximize were on the right. It seems, you can only access it by unmaximizing a window and then right-clicking the titlebar.19:31
vassallihi19:32
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jo-erlendjackiechan0, hold on, I'm looking.19:32
jackiechan0jo-erlend: right it's on the top left, that little arrow down19:32
jackiechan0jo-erlend: thanks :)19:32
ActionParsnipjelliebellie: ubuntu is designed to be simple and for Linux novices. I don't think it has that19:32
yashwantKM201, k19:33
ActionParsnipjo-erlend: gotcha19:33
jelliebellieActionParsnip: weak, server edition should have it, or else ubuntu is not for enterprise imo. thx19:33
ActionParsnipjackiechan0: alt+v to get view -> toolbars    maybe19:34
Mitchell_MI tried editing a .desktop application for thunderbird to see if I could get it to appear in desktop (since it was already created), however I am not sure what line to edit to have it appear on the ubuntu task bar?19:34
WissAnyone?19:34
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: doesn't works, i have to restart compiz or i have to restart gtk decorator under compiz menu19:34
ActionParsnipjelliebellie: yep, your opinion...19:34
jelliebellieActionParsnip: the right option.  not a real os for servers.19:35
jelliebelliethx19:35
Mitchell_MBTW, I was saying task bar,but that is a WINDOWS term, I really meant to say Launcher19:36
DrManhattanescott, thank you very much for explaining that to me in DrManhattan-proof terms. I actually understand that now!19:36
ActionParsnipjackiechan0: try:   metacity --replace19:38
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: ok19:38
jo-erlendjackiechan0, hey. I tried something that made my desktop go nuts. :)19:39
jackiechan0jo-erlend: ?19:39
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: Metacity --replace worked!! My  cairo dock is messed but i have just to reload it19:39
jo-erlendjackiechan0, if you use Unity 2D, then you can get the button back. But it seems, you can no longer maximize your windows if you do.19:39
Guest69427Is there any way to remove dvtm's window title?19:40
jackiechan0ActionParsnip: jo-erlend what' happend to my cairodock ha a black square around19:40
jo-erlendjackiechan0, oh. Perhaps I misunderstood? You knew about /apps/metacity/general/button_layout?19:40
jo-erlendjackiechan0, didn't you use to ask about the windows menu? :)19:41
jackiechan0jo-erlend: if i disable renable gtk-window-decorator --replace  the windows borders will back, but the menu on the top left isn't availalbe and if i click on it the windows border disappears19:42
jo-erlendjackiechan0, anyway; in order to get the windows menu back onto your window decorator, you can use close,minimize,maximize,menu:19:42
jackiechan0jo-erlend: if i run metacity --replace the windows menu works again but my cairodock becames messed19:42
jackiechan0jo-erlend: didn't understand19:43
jo-erlendjackiechan0, oh, ok. It wasn't about the button itself then?19:43
jackiechan0jo-erlend: sorry? the button of thewindows menu make the windows borders diapperas19:43
feetHeya19:43
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jackiechan0??19:44
jo-erlendjackiechan0, I don't know what that means. The windows menu was removed from the default in 10.04 I think, at the same time that window controls were moved from the right to left.19:44
jackiechan0jo-erlend: the problem is with gtk-window-decorator --replace19:45
sam555hello all!19:45
ultrixxhi sam55519:45
jo-erlendjackiechan0, I thought you wanted to get the windows menu button back...19:45
sam555I'm installing ubuntu server 64 bit.  Should I use ext4 or ext3?  We have in the past been using ext 3.  If I go to ext4 will there be major changes?19:45
jackiechan0jo-erlend: yes but when i  run gtk-window-decorator --replace the windows border reappears19:46
escottsam555, the main change is in extents, although there are also some changes to how syncing and journaling works19:46
jo-erlendjackiechan0, why are you running that command?19:46
jackiechan0jo-erlend: the windows menu button make the borders disappear19:46
sam555escott.  Thanks for the update.  What would you recommend?19:47
jo-erlendjackiechan0, check your settings. You _have_ to have the colon.19:47
jackiechan0??19:47
jackiechan0jo-erlend: i'm lost19:48
jo-erlendjackiechan0, close,minimize,maximize,menu: <-- that way. Not close,minimize,maximize,menu19:48
escottsam555, i would probably use ext4, but if you are worried about performance you should see if there are benchmarks for your workloads19:48
jackiechan0jo-erlend: i have these on the right19:48
jo-erlendjackiechan0, do you have the colon?19:48
DrManhattanwhat is a hard drive benchmark for ubuntu?19:48
DrManhattansomething I can run in console?19:49
jackiechan0jo-erlend: what is colon?19:49
ultrixxsam555: ext4 is most probably the best filesystem for you19:49
ikoniaDrManhattan: iostat19:49
sam555thanks for the input ultrixx and escott!!!  Very helpful.19:49
vassallicanale ubuntu ita19:49
vassallitanchs19:49
jo-erlendjackiechan0, your setting should be something like "menu:minimize,maximize,close", or ":menu,minimize,maximize,close". You have to have the ":" (colon). Otherwise, you'll run into problems. (which is what happened to me earlier)19:50
KM0201!it | vassalli19:50
ubottuvassalli: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)19:50
jackiechan0jo-erlend: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/96037919:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 991552 in compiz (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #960379 gtk-window-decorator crashes regularly" [High,Confirmed]19:50
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jo-erlendjackiechan0, ok. You were talking about metacity a moment ago? Then you started talking about cairodock I think. It's very difficult to understand. This is IRC.19:51
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jackiechan0jo-erlend: thanks for helping don't worry i'll fix it19:52
jo-erlendjackiechan0, with regards to the menu-button... I'd make sure the settings are correct. Otherwise, metacity will crash.19:52
jackiechan0jo-erlend: ok19:52
jo-erlendjackiechan0, might want to use askubuntu, btw. And provide details. It's very difficult to get the entire picture here.19:53
jo-erlendgood luck.19:53
jellybellieI hate ubuntu this month, it just sux.  Unity, not advanced menu with server install (or any thing else other disk), plew19:54
jellybellienot=no19:54
jackiechan0tnx19:54
oconnorehow do I disable "recent files" in the unity menu? the option in settings -> privacy is non functional19:55
ksian1you must delete the history also19:56
Bulletrulzwtf happend lolD:19:59
escottoconnore, i dont know what the settings->privacy are but gnome-activity-journal should allow you to manage some privacy settings19:59
escottoconnore, rather "activity log manager"20:00
Bulletrulzi have a qestion???!!!!20:00
oconnoreyeah, I'm using that. it does nothing20:00
oconnoreescott: that doesn't work20:00
guntbert!ask | Bulletrulz20:00
ubottuBulletrulz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:00
escottoconnore, is it that its not deleting the old history? or that its not even preventing new entries from being made?20:01
Bulletrulzis it possible to duel boot with out usb stick or wubi or cd?20:01
Bulletrulzjust a program20:01
Bulletrulzwill unetbootin do that?20:01
guntbert!dualboot | Bulletrulz20:01
ubottuBulletrulz: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot20:01
KM0201Bulletrulz: well how on earth would you expect to set up a dual boot, w/o some form of installation media?20:02
oconnoreescott: it's not deleting the old history20:03
escottoconnore, its not expected to do that. you might want to purge your zeitgeist history and then setup your privacy settings20:03
Bulletrulzidk20:03
oconnoreescott: it is expected to do that, that's a button on the first page20:03
Bulletrulzbut i have 2 harddrives?20:04
Bulletrulzcan i make one ubuntu and one windows20:04
escottoconnore, ok that bit. i dont know ive never tried it, i was thinking of the blacklist part20:04
OerHeksBulletrulz, you could add an iso to an existing grub2/ubuntu installation20:04
escottBulletrulz, yes you can do that20:04
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guntbertBulletrulz: you need a boot manager - use grub2 for that purpose20:05
Bulletrulzi can :D20:05
Bulletrulzwill it take long?20:05
oconnoreescott: how do you purge zeitgeist history?20:05
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marv_when you are ready have two problems to discuss20:05
Bulletrulzoer im using wubi right now20:05
OerHeksBulletrulz, then no.20:06
escottoconnore, nuke ~/.local/share/zeitgeist20:06
ThePendulumI installed Windows, and Ubuntu alongside it, yet only Windows boots. How do I quickfix this?20:07
escott!grub | ThePendulum20:07
ThePendulum(I don´t get a choice at all)20:07
ubottuThePendulum: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)20:07
OerHeksThePendulum, hold shift @ boot to enter grubmenu20:07
ThePendulumescott: I installed Ubuntu last20:07
ThePendulumAh20:07
Bulletrulzescoot will i still be able to access windows20:07
escottThePendulum, do you have multiple disks? perhaps you have the wrong boot disk selected20:07
ThePendulumescott: They´re both on the same disk20:08
escottBulletrulz, im not clear what you are asking. yes you can access files on ntfs from ubuntu20:08
oconnoreescott: still nothing20:08
Bulletrulzescott will i need a usb drive still to install it20:08
escottoconnore, try logging out it might be cached in ram20:08
muh2000a fresh install of ubuntu: why does smb browsing not work (keep in mind, all other PCs can browse the smb world in my LAN)20:08
Bulletrulzi thing i have a removable harddrive20:08
n1ckn4me09876543is it possible to COPY my entire ubuntu folders  in   /          then transfer it to another drive, will it run when i turn on computer using that OTHER drive?20:08
uwfor a harddisks, can i make sure that a certain UUID is tied to a certain /dev/sdX upon boot?20:09
Bulletrulznick no lol20:09
uwcant find stright answer online20:09
escottBulletrulz, you want to have some kind of bootable media on which to do the installation. you might be able to get creative if you have multiple disks, but the easiest is a usb thumb drive20:09
NcAuw: the UUID is a disk identifier20:09
escottn1ckn4me09876543, you would have to copy UUIDs for partitions, and bootloaders20:09
NcAuw: by nature it will only describe the disk that it was generated for20:10
oconnoreescott: ah, that worked. That was hellish for such a simple problem.20:10
Bulletrulzescott i dont have a usb drive D: my freind has one will i hvae to use the usb drive everythime i boot?20:10
ArkhelionHello everyone20:10
uwNcA, can i make sure that UUID is brought up as /dev/sda (or whatever) upon system boot?20:10
escottBulletrulz, once you install you won't need the usb drive20:10
escottuw, no20:10
Bulletrulzhmmm how big of a flash drive20:10
escottuw, thats why we have UUIDs because they cannot guarantee enumeration ordering. access the drive through the symlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/20:11
NcAuw: a UUID <IS> a descriptor for a disk partition20:11
rzyzhello, i have problem to install sun-java6-jre on ubuntu 12.04 64bits20:11
fratermso back to flashplugin-installer he(double hockey sticks): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1001659/20:11
Bulletrulzescott how big?20:11
rzyzi have the message on comment 6 : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=932239120:11
escottThePendulum, how old is the computer you have20:11
NcAuw: so in fstab, instead of /dev/sdx, you replace it with UUID=<string>  mountpoint20:11
escottBulletrulz, 700MB is large enough for the install media20:11
Bulletrulzhmmmmm ?20:11
DrManhattanhow long should it take for mysql to start20:12
Bulletrulzi wish i had a usb stick20:12
uwescott, ok, does anyone know how linux enumerates /dev/sdX drives upon boot?  it keeps changing for me and messing things up.20:12
Bulletrulzwait can i use like a memory chip from my phone?20:12
ArkhelionIs there any "raid-guru" on? I'm having a kinda wierd issue with superblocks20:12
Bulletrulzbrb20:12
uwNcA, ohhh ok i wil give that a try20:12
MonkeyDustrzyz  did you follow these instructions? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_620:12
KM0201a memory chip from his phone... and he doesn't want to spend $10 on a pen drive?20:13
escottuw, its really up to the hardware. the kernel cannot guarantee anything. DO NOT COUNT on device enumeration order. The kernel developers cannot and will not guarantee anything20:13
NcAuw: so, if your install keeps replacing the /dev/sdx entries, using the UUID will force it to mount that specific partition, regardless of the device naming20:13
BulletrulzKM0 IM FUCKING 13 LOL20:14
MonkeyDustcaps & language20:14
uwescott, NcA, oddly though, my fstab says (/dev/sdc1: UUID="9b1a3f76-aa42-4832-b5fa-010e381f8ad5" TYPE="ext4" )  as if it is tying /dev/sdc1 to a UUID?20:14
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escottBulletrulz, probably not20:14
Bulletrulzescott is a removiable memory card20:14
guntbertanyone | Arkhelion20:14
escottuw, the UUID is stored in the partition table. if that device comes up as sdd the UUID will still be discoverable20:14
uwescott, NcA, thanks for your advice and help btw20:14
guntbert!anyone | Arkhelion20:14
ubottuArkhelion: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:14
Bulletrulzand if i install will it void my warrenty to get rid of windows20:15
ArkhelionOkay sorry guntbert20:16
Bulletrulzescott can i use like a removilbe memory card and just plug my phone in?20:16
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ThePendulumescott: Eh, about half a year old20:16
escottBulletrulz, US law would make any such clause invalid (assuming you are in the US)20:16
Bulletrulzescott i dont get it so it wont?20:16
Bulletrulzescott void my warrent20:16
NcAuw: no worries. I haven't seen that behaviour, might be Ubuntu specific. Fstab will mount the device just using UUID= int the first field. You can find out UUID's by running "tune2fs -l /dev/sdxx | grep UUID"20:17
escottThePendulum, its possible that it is a EFI/GPT system. When you were partitioning did you see an EFI partition? If you are in the livecd run "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb" assuming sdb is your hard disk20:17
Bulletrulzescott so they wont void my warrenty if i did20:18
ThePendulumescott: I got that error during the Windows installation, so I cleaned the entire disk and added a msdos partition table20:18
Bulletrulzhmmmm?! wait what about that one thing easy bcd20:19
ArkhelionSo my issue is the following, after a kernel failure (which I'll investigate afterwards), the disk /dev/sdb has been removed from a raid1 array. I've been able to re-add /dev/sb1 to /dev/md0 but unable to re-add /dev/sdb2 to /dev/md1. In fact, the "wierd" thing is that if I zero-superblock /dev/sdb2, then I get nothing with mdadm -E /dev/sdb2 (that's kinda expected), but if I then re-add it to /dev/md1, I get superblocks back b20:19
Arkhelionut with Events=0 and when I check in /dev/md1 I can't find my device in there...20:19
NcAuw: I would imagine it's your controller that's reporting the devices strangely during system startup as the kernel queries the dive controller20:19
DrManhattanhmm, very surprising, but ubuntu works a lot better than gentoo did this last run around20:19
Bulletrulzcan i duel boot with that20:19
DrManhattanWAY better, to be honest20:19
Silowyiis there an apache 2.4.2 PPA out there yet?20:19
DrManhattanI had zoneminder up and running in less than a half-hour20:19
_RED_Unity is slow as balls on my lappy20:19
Bulletrulzescott what about easybcd is it ossible to duel boot that20:19
_RED_and the AMD drivers wont stop crashing20:19
escottBulletrulz, you can talk to your attorney about that. Your vendor will say almost anything voids the warranty (their goal is not to pay), but in the US the warranty has to cover merchantability and they would have to show that linux caused the harm (which is wont)20:19
DrManhattanwhat's a normal start time for zoneminder?20:19
guntbertDrManhattan:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?20:19
Bulletrulzescott god sounds like a lot of work20:20
Bulletrulzanyway escott can i duel boot with easybcd20:20
escottDrManhattan, if you are coming from Gentoo, a word of advice "don't fiddle with the defaults." Gentoo teaches you to customize everything, but its better to just leave it be in ubuntu20:20
_RED_also any one know how to stop the AMD drivers from crashing or could recomend me to a good comunity made driver20:20
escottThePendulum, got what error?20:21
sw0rdfishhi, did the old version ubuntu 8.10 or 9.10 live CD have stuff like smartctl or gparted installed?????????????????20:21
DrManhattanescott, it isnt just that it is set up properly, it's that the install and set up is very fast20:21
DrManhattanthe only thing i miss is the gentoo colors in the console :)20:21
ThePendulumescott: Windows warned me about GPT, so did Ubuntu. So I just repartitioned the entire disk before continueing. Unless Windows threw a GPT partition table at it, I´m pretty sure it´s still msdos20:22
DrManhattan334 megs for the box running apache2, mysql, and zoneminder20:22
DrManhattanand ssh20:22
uwNcA: yes it could be one of the sata controllers.  Also, there are 2 USB drives on boot so i wonder if they are messing up the enumeration.20:23
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_RED_<ThePendulum> pro tip use windows to shrink NTFS partitions20:23
escottBulletrulz, you probably could dual boot with easy bcd, but it would be easier (since you have two disks) to put grub on the mbr of the ubuntu disk, and make that the primary boot disk. grub will automatically be configured to chainload the windows20:23
ThePendulum_RED_: Why would I want to shrink an NTFS partition?20:23
escottThePendulum, windows is not bootable in an efi/msdos configuration. only efi/gpt is supported. if you changed partition tables windows should not be bootable20:23
_RED_to dual boot20:23
Bulletrulzescoot sounds really techinal xD20:23
uwNcA escott, also, i see two types of UUIDs from blkid.  One in the format UUID="12280888994215613420", the other in the format UUID="9b1a3f76-aa42-4832-b5fa-010e381f8ad5"20:23
ThePendulum_RED_: I partitioned beforehand20:24
MonkeyDust!tab| Bulletrulz20:24
ubottuBulletrulz: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.20:24
_RED_good20:24
_RED_also any one know a fix for AMD apu drivers?20:24
uwNcA escott, any thoughts to which one is correct or will either one work?20:24
ThePendulumescott: Then Windows changed it itself, because it´s actually only Windows that boots20:24
_RED_they wont stop crashing on me20:24
sw0rdfishhi, did the old version ubuntu 8.10 or 9.10 live CD have stuff like smartctl or gparted installed?20:24
Bulletrulzescoot it says i can boot from a iso i have lubuntu and ubuntus ido20:24
Bulletrulziso20:24
escottuw, NTFS has these "UUID"s which are not actually UUIDs but they are sufficient to uniquely identify an NTFS partition. is that what you are seeing?20:24
NcAuw: did you run tune2fs?20:24
Bulletrulzis easybcd and wubi like the samething20:25
NcAthe dashed format is the correct formatting for fstab20:25
escott!enter | Bulletrulz20:25
ubottuBulletrulz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:25
NcAuw:  I would test with a non-critical partition, add it to fstab, then run "sudo mount -a"20:25
Bulletrulzescoot sorry20:25
AngrySpam98so i told my teacher to get linux, and she gave me detention -.-20:25
escottThePendulum, can you just verify what kind of partition table you have20:25
kantlivelonganyone know of a CLI lightscribe app? I just need basic text printing...20:25
The_ExplorerQuestion: "Ubuntu will not boot after install" = I just installed ubuntu 12.x on my pc, (specs: FX series "bulldozer 8core" Nvidia GTS 250 series PCIX, 16gigs ram, asus board(xfire FX) || Live cd worked, installed, (Changed boot order to compensate) and rebooted. Black screen frozen(hard reset req)20:25
D[4]nimeh. dpkg seems to ignore my --ignore-depends switch.20:26
_RED_<AngrySpam98> please go to off topic20:26
ThePendulumescott: What´s the best way to verify using Windows?20:26
ThePendulumHaven´t used Windows for years now...20:26
mneptokThePendulum: does this machine use UEFI?20:26
NcAThe_Explorer: "Black Screen"? Was there a cursor in the top right?20:26
ThePendulummneptok: Yeah20:26
NcAThe_Explorer: Chances are you didn't install grub to the proper boot disk's MBR20:26
escottBulletrulz, easybcd is a tool to configure the windows boot process. wubi is a way of "installing" ubuntu without partitioning. they aren't really related20:26
mneptokThePendulum: UEFI requires a GPT table20:26
The_ExplorerNcA, negative. Full black screen, frozen, Unable to alt+ctrl+Fx20:27
uwescott, i dont think so,  none of these are NTFS partions.  only one is ext4 (OS) and the rest are zfs20:27
escottThePendulum, i havent a clue. something in the disk partitioning tools should say20:27
Bulletrulzescoot but i can duel boot any os with easybcd right cause i wanna try alot20:27
ThePendulumI guess I´ll just format and wipe the entire disk again, partition it as GPT and install everything once again20:27
uwNcA: tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.20:27
escottuw, ZFS probably has some kind of volume or snapshot id. i dont know which one you would use20:27
The_ExplorerNcA, Grub sucessfully booted after change in boot order. Malfunction happened after selection20:27
undecimIs there a program that can manage custom background scripts? Ideally something that sits in the notification area, and lists active scripts, allowing me to check and uncheck which scripts or cron jobs should be active.20:28
escottuw, /dev/sda? dont you mean /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 or something20:28
Bulletrulzescoot Boot anything.20:28
BulletrulzBoot both from and into USB drives, ISO images, virtual disks, and more. i have the iso20:28
ThePendulumBy the way, is there a way to display a custom notification as soon as I hit the off button on my PC or shut down my PC from within Ubuntu?20:28
ThePendulumI like to remind myself to switch off my wireless mouse, lol20:28
NcAuw: you need to specify /dev/sda1 (the partition number, not just the device)20:29
escottBulletrulz, yes, i believe people have managed to boot ubuntu with easybcd. I'm not sure why you would do such a thing, but it has been done AFAIK20:29
NcAThe_Explorer: I'm assuming you havee multiple disks in your system?20:29
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Bulletrulzescoot i just want ubuntu regurlay so i dont run in to some of the prblems i had with wubi20:29
The_ExplorerNcA, I have 2 drives, Sata AHCI WDC Green S&X models20:30
undecimIf I select shutdown, at what point is the runlevel changed to 0?20:30
escottBulletrulz, could you please spell my nickname correctly20:30
uwNcA escott whoops20:30
uwNcA escott, still though, same result20:30
Bulletrulzescott ok20:30
MonkeyDustundecim  start here http://linuxbasis.org/downloads_cron.html20:30
undecimThePendulum: You could write a script to poll it and run zenity or xmessage when it's 0.... Though I'm not sure when the runlevel is actually changed.20:31
escottBulletrulz, thank you. without knowing what problems you had with wubi, i can't say if they would be improved or not20:31
The_ExplorerNcA, it cant be the drives, because that would be a different error. This has to be graphics or bios settings that would be different from ubuntu 10.x20:31
uwNcA escott, also, from fdisk -l, all of these disks report "Disk identifier: 0x00000000"20:31
sw0rdfishhi, did the old version ubuntu 8.10 or 9.10 live CD have stuff like smartctl or gparted installed?????????????????20:31
uwNcA escott except the ext4 disk20:31
escottuw, don't use fdisk. need to break that habit. sudo parted -l20:31
NcAThe_Explorer: Sounds like when grub was installed, it's pointing to the wrong disk for your Ubuntu install20:31
uwescott, ok will do20:32
Bulletrulzescott anyway thx man20:32
guntbertsw0rdfish: no idea, why do you need to know?20:32
MonkeyDustsw0rdfish  8.10 and 9.10 are no longer supported20:32
The_ExplorerNcA, I booted grub and selected recovery and Failsafe X option. After failsafe X, it failed to boot.20:32
urlwolfI have one of these trackpads: http://gizmodo.com/filco-smarttrack-neo/ but X recognizes it as a mouse. Is there any way I could convince it to recognize it as a trackpad?20:32
NcAThe_Explorer: Sounds like it isn't graphics related then20:32
Bulletrulzi wanna put some themes on lubuntu is this possible?20:33
Bulletrulz!lubuntu20:33
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.20:33
Bulletrulz!kubuntu20:33
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde20:33
Bulletrulz!gobuntu20:34
MonkeyDust!botabuse| Bulletrulz20:34
ubottuBulletrulz: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".20:34
guntbert!askthebot | Bulletrulz20:34
uwNcA escott ok i will keep working at this.  Thank you for your help.  I really appreciate it20:34
NcAuw: wait, what filesystem were the other disks?20:35
sw0rdfishguntbert, MonkeyDust: cuz thats the only live cd i have at the moment20:35
sw0rdfishand i need to use smartctl on an hdd20:35
schultza_rcherbahow do i restart the samba service in 12.04... service samba restart doesnt find the service20:35
NcAschultza_rcherba: service smbd restart20:35
guntbertsw0rdfish: if you have it runnuin, why don't you try?20:36
uwNcA, they make up one zpool20:36
NcAlook in /etc/init.d/ for the script names20:36
deepsightanyone knows what partition type should a mac partition_map have?20:36
schultza_rcherbaunrecognized service20:36
NcAuw: ahhh20:36
deepsight(im trying to recover a partition with testdisk)20:36
sw0rdfishi'm struggling with my arch live cd atm, trying to get it online so i could install those packages20:36
NcAuw: that's a bit of a grey area, I've not touched zfs in ubuntu before20:36
kantlivelongdeepsight: GPT20:37
MonkeyDustsw0rdfish  why not download it with the machine you're here with?20:37
kantlivelongdeepsight: thats the table20:37
kantlivelongdeepsight: other then that i dont think testdisk will handle osx partitions20:38
uwNcA, its not bad but i didnt define the zpool to use UUIDs, used /dev/sdX instead.  I'm not sure if you can use UUIDs but i will try20:38
NcAuw: best I can say is good luck! And do your research :)20:38
sw0rdfishand then what MonkeyDust ?20:38
sw0rdfishhow do I get it to the live cd/20:38
beonmauiAloha all.  12.01LTS is currently non-bootable on a troubled system.  I just need to rsync off encrypted data then reboot but am getting stuck by the creation and non-responsive nature of a USB drive that is not plugged in.  The error was on sdb so I plugged in a usb stick, now it's on sdc.  Does anybody know what created this ghost device and if I can edit it out of a config file so that it will boot?20:39
deepsightkantlivelong, it lists mac hfs, mac ufs, mC RAID, mac boot and mac label20:39
uwNcA, yup will do and thanks again20:39
MonkeyDustsw0rdfish  guess you can use any cd burning program to do it20:39
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beonmaui[sdc] asking for cache data failed (plus other repeating lines)20:39
aaa801How can i mount the system as rw in a recovery root shell with a wubi install?20:40
schultza_rcherbaah... samba client is installed.. not server20:40
beonmauifirst error seems to be usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -7120:40
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beonmauifour times20:41
escottaaa801, mount -o remount,rw /20:41
aaa801ty20:41
aaa801freking i915 ...20:42
caesar_where does one go in 12.04 to add user to vboxusers?20:42
escottcaesar_, cli; sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers username20:43
aaa801o wtf20:44
aaa801this laptop has it in for me20:44
caesar_escott: i found that command but isn't it also in users accounts somewhere?20:45
aaa801Ubuntu splash is in top left, rest of screen is funky error colours20:45
escottcaesar_, i think they took it out20:45
mneptokaaa801: language, please.20:45
BulletrulzWINDOWS AZURE IS A COPY OF UBUNTU ONE20:45
MonkeyDustcaps20:46
Bulletrulzsrry20:46
escott!nomodeset | aaa80120:48
ubottuaaa801: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:48
aaa801thanks, i had to put i915.modeset=1 to even get it to show20:48
kb_oean interesting online comic book http://kh43.com20:49
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sam555why does one need a caret after this command --> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^20:50
zykotick9sam555: lamp-server isn't a package, but a task (i'm guessing)20:51
MonkeyDustsam555  rather use tasksel (task select)20:51
aaa801escott: it showed the splash screen, then dumped me back to a black screen after that,20:52
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guntbertMonkeyDust: sam555 but use tasksel for *addition* of tasks, *never* for removal!20:53
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guntbert*only for addition20:53
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MonkeyDustmessage taken20:53
escottaaa801, i dont really know20:54
aaa801il go pick through the xorg configs :/20:54
donpdonphow do i see/change what the 'system fixed width font' is?21:01
donpdonp(the font setting in gnome-terminal is set to that)21:02
zykotick9donpdonp: sidenote - i like terminus (both x and console available) as a fixed width font21:03
codelurkerBulletrulz: Azure is not a copy of Ubuntu One.  Ubuntu One is like Dropbox.  Azure is more like Amazon ECS.  Example - You cant run a database on ubuntu one.21:06
mneptokcodelurker: offtopic nonetheless.21:07
codelurkeragreed21:07
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HeadAcheHello, I need to install make version 3.81, I have version 3.80. If I do apt-get install make. It says make is up to date. If I try manually building gnu-make from source and do make install, it still uses make version 3.8021:10
donpdonpzykotick9: cool thx21:10
sam555thank, zykotick9, MonkeyDust and guntbert21:12
beonmauiGreat, ignore ignored all responses.  Is there a log of this channel?21:13
* aaa801 crys,21:13
aaa801now its flashing alll the way through the bootscreen21:13
D[4]nimeh, i can't get my printer to work. i need to install a 32-bit version of libpopt0. i tried getlibs, but it didn't seem to help - ldd still says it is missing21:15
GRMrGeckoWhen Ubuntu fails me, I go to Debian... Ubuntu fails me. "GROWROOT: FAILED: failed to get start and end for /dev/sdb4 in /dev/sdb"21:15
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Nach0zD[4]ni: had that problem before, just removed libpopt0 from the deb dependency section, printer driver worked fine. not reccommended, clearly, but it worked >_>21:17
rottik9I am kinda a newbie to linux, would love some training, any suggestions?21:17
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D[4]niNach0z: one executable of the driver fails to start.21:17
biebthis is sorta LTSP and Ubuntu question.. I have 12.04 installed on my ltsp server.. I have to connect to Active Directory.. I installed Likewise (now pbis) and I can do everything AD related testwise.. but I can't login to the server with AD credentials.. the users available are the user I created when installing Ubuntu and the Guest session.. no place for me to do domain21:18
SuperEngineerHi folks.  Has anyone tried the Gimp 2.8 ppa? Is it safe in 12.04 as claimed?21:18
biebdomain\user21:18
D[4]nicngpij: error while loading shared libraries: libpopt.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory21:18
sam555how does one find the latest linux headers to install emacs on ubuntu server 64?21:18
FleepI'm running Ubuntu on an EC2 instance as a Postgres database server and in the past couple of days it's gone unavailable periodically forcing us to stop/start the instance and get new hardware. It's using an EBS volume as it's main drive so we still have all the logging. Where can I start looking for issues? I've checked in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog and haven't found anything notable when the outages began21:18
FleepAnywhere else I should be looking?21:18
GRMrGeckorottik9: Best way to learn is by doing. Search for learn linux and learn basic terminal commands and also learn how the file structure is.21:19
phaedraFleep, #ubuntu-server might be better for help21:20
Fleepphaedra: Thanks!21:20
phaedraFleep, np21:20
rottik9I see, well i have been...looking for something else. paid or not21:21
aaa801holy.. full screen boot splash21:21
D[4]niNach0z: i already installed the drivers and stuff, but they don't work21:21
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aaa801and now a black screen :/, any ideas guys21:22
aaa801im using nomodeset vga=733 i915.modeset=121:22
zykotick9aaa801: fyi, vga= has been deprecated for a while (should still work though, but can also be an issue)21:23
MbaeHi all21:23
Tunn3lhi21:23
HeadAcheHELLO21:23
schultza_rcherbaon boot... do f1 or ctrl + f1... or f12 to see the dmesg... if you can get them21:23
beonmauiI think it's alt f1 or control alt f121:24
The_ExplorerJust installed Ubuntu 12x, Freezes on boot. Live cd worked, Safe X failed, Grub did load...21:24
schultza_rcherbaon shutdown ive been able to toggle with f12 for boot splash to dmesg OK/FAIL screen21:24
zykotick9beonmaui: on VTs it's just alt+Fkey, in Xorg it requires both ctrl+alt+Fkey21:24
beonmauiaok21:25
schultza_rcherbaThe_Explorer, what does grub say?21:25
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beonmauizykotick9: I guess I assumed X21:25
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zykotick9beonmaui: save assumption ;)21:26
zykotick9s/save/safe/21:26
aaa801looks like this is my issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/54149221:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 541492 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Lucid) "MASTER: [i845] GPU lockup" [High,Triaged]21:26
schultza_rcherbais anyone still using epic/bitchx class irc clients?21:26
beonmauischultza_rcherba: I miss bitchx, but still use irssi21:27
schultza_rcherbawhat is irssi?21:27
zykotick9schultza_rcherba: bitchx has security holes, irssi is a good replacement21:27
luixgood morning/afternoon/night --- any boot troubleshooting in Ubuntu 12.04?21:27
schultza_rcherbawhat about epic... what bitchx was directly branched from?21:27
beonmauischultza_rcherba: old school, very scriptable, all console21:27
curiousxirssi is a IRC client21:27
beonmauiI lost touch with bitchx a long time ago21:27
NictraSaviosAlright so I'm setting up Ubuntu for my mom and I have a little bit of an issue.... She has the typical windows XP, folder on desktopcall21:27
NictraSavioscalled stuf thats jam packed with all kinds of stuff... how do I sort this?21:28
EmbalmedI installed the ubuntu cacti package and configured it to use apache2 with dpkg-reconfigure, but apache is still not pulling up the /cacti url.. any ideas what might be going on?21:28
escottNictraSavios, my advice: don't. if she wants it all in one folder thats her choice21:28
AprelNictraSavios: Are you booted in Ubuntu and mounted the win partition, or booted in Windows/21:29
NictraSaviosSorry, I hit enter by accident while typing... and escott, yeah but then I gotta listen to her yelp while she sets up rythembox and shotwell and stuff. And nope, Ubuntu is installed, all her stuff is on a flash drive now.21:29
curiousxNictraSavios: with ubuntu-tweak you can see the trash en your home folder in desktop21:29
curiousxand* your home...21:30
NictraSaviosI'm on my personal computer (Arch Linux/Ubuntu/OSX/Win7 Quad Boot Macbook) trying to sort her files out... well. I'm actually procrastinating doing it... but I will. haha.21:30
Embalmedhmm, removing it with --purge and reinstall now it works.. odd21:30
NictraSavioscuriousx, Okay, but she didn't ask for that .. yet. She just wants this "Stuff" folder sorted.21:30
AprelNictraSavios: you just want to organize it into folders? Maybe a bash script that mkdirs for every file ext (mp3s jpgs, etc.) mvs those files into those dirs.21:31
escottNictraSavios, there are suggested folders in ~ for Music Documents etc21:31
NictraSaviosAprel, Yeah, my thoughts were along those lines too... not as well formed. I can't say I'm any good with bash, is there anything like that already out there?21:32
krababbelum, if you do that script, your mom will kill you21:32
NictraSaviosescott, Yeah, thats what I'm trying to sort it into. Right now its just one big cluster-mess of everything and anything.21:32
krababbeljust do it then, it is a pain21:32
HeadAcheIt seems I have make 3.81 compiled, but doing make install doesnt correctly install it. When I type 'make' at the command line I still have version 3.80. What paths are checked? I manually installed the new version of make to /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin/make, but the shell --version without a full path still says 3.8021:32
NictraSavioskrababbel, You may be right.. I didn't think of how they are organised by "Huggs" (Dog) and "Wedding" ... Oh god. I'm going to have to do this ....21:33
beonmauiI'm getting constant repeating errors while I try to fsck my media drive in root/safe mode. Every 50 seconds... "sd 5:0:0:0 [sdc] Asking for cache data failed", then "sd 5:0:0:0 [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through".  12.01LTS system will no longer boot due to this error.  Any clues?21:33
macmartinedoes linux cache symlinks? I have a cron that runs a rake file, but it's still running old code21:33
SumoJimHi, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and can't seem to stop X and drop to a terminal window.    I have tried:  1) Ctrl-Alt-F2  2) sudo init 1  3) sudo stop gdm    All of these give me a dark grey screen with no cursor and no prompt.21:33
NictraSaviosUgh. Well... this should be an exercise in endurance the likes of a marthon.21:33
beonmauiBTW:  sdc is not plugges in21:34
beanpolehi all21:34
NictraSaviosSumoJim, Do you know about sysrq keys?21:34
escottbeonmaui, if the drive cache is failing you might be able to use hdparm to force it to bypass the cache21:34
schultza_rcherbabeonmaui, actually the last post for news on irssi is dec 2011... while epic is this year... i think ill still with epic (parent of bitchx)21:34
zykotick9SumoJim: "sudo service gdm stop"21:34
beonmauiescott: not plugged in21:34
SumoJimNictraSavios: Somewhat21:34
zykotick9!runlevels > SumoJim21:34
ubottuSumoJim, please see my private message21:34
beonmauiautocreated sdc instead of sdb when I plugged in a drive to fsck21:35
krababbelNictraSavios: do it one folder a day, or something, or whenever she needs some files, organize that part21:35
beonmauierrors continue21:35
beanpolewhy is my ubuntu booting slower than windoze 721:35
SumoJimzykotick9: sudo service gdm stop took me to the same grey screen and rendered the PC unusable.21:35
beonmauibeanpole: probably some errors or too much vid accel without good hardware21:36
NictraSavioskrababbel, I have about... 25 minutes.21:36
MonkeyDust!details| beanpole21:36
ubottubeanpole: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:36
NictraSaviosSumoJim, Ctrl+Alt+F121:36
zykotick9SumoJim: are you using some vga= line perhaps?  sorry, no real suggestion then.21:36
NictraSaviosSumoJim, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back21:36
beanpolehi i am running 12.0421:36
beanpoleubuntu and zubuntu zubuntu is faster wtf ubuntu21:37
SumoJimzykotick9: I'm using the default config in /etc/default/grub21:37
HeadAcheI fixed it!21:37
MonkeyDustbeanpole  watch your language here, please21:37
HeadAcheTurns out I had some cross compiler on my $PATH variable coming *before* my local /usr/bin21:37
SumoJimNictraSavios: Ctrl-alt-F7 does nothing21:37
Logan_beanpole: What's Zubuntu?21:37
beanpolekubuntu is the shitiest distro i hav eva used it crashed in partitioning21:37
SumoJimThis is a fresh install of Ubuntu.21:38
MonkeyDustbeanpole  language21:38
beanpolexubuntu i  call it zooboontu21:38
beanpoleahaha21:38
SumoJimMaybe just a bad install?21:38
beanpolei speak english mate21:38
hawkal1I have a password protected pdf I need to open. I know the password is one of 372 combinations I have with the pdf. Whats the quickest way to open the pdf testing all 372 combinations?21:38
HeadAchehawkal1: type in the correct combination21:39
SumoJimNictraSavios: Ctrl-Alt-F[Any] does nothing... just grey screen, no cursor, no prompt.21:39
mouchehawkal1: hire an intern21:39
goddardi think there is something wrong with my keyring21:39
goddardit is broken in netbeans and a few other programs21:39
Boohbahhawkal1: write a script to generate all possible combinations21:40
hawkal1Boohbah: I've done that but now i need a way to open the pdf using the cli21:40
SumoJimOk, I'm going to re-install Ubuntu, and see if anything changes....21:40
chabiehalooooo....21:41
escotthawkal1, see if the poppler utils will let you put the password in on the cli21:41
chabiehaloooo21:41
chabiehallooo21:41
hawkal1escott: okay thank you21:41
moucheSumoJim: you could use autokey to automate the clicking. it uses python.21:41
chabiei have problem with my ubuntu21:41
MonkeyDustchabie  great! this is the support channel21:42
beanpole_olaaa21:42
MonkeyDust!es21:42
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:42
SumoJimmouche: Automate clicking what?21:42
beanpole_kubuntu crashed sayaing faulty dvd drive but i installed zubuntu wtf kubntu21:43
Tunn3ln1x21:43
Tunn3larghh21:43
krababbelSumoJim: why, does the livecd work21:43
Tunn3lmy nickname!21:43
Tunn3lbtw, where do I change my hostname in this irc?21:43
n1xTunn3l, really?? :P21:43
SumoJimkrababbel: Good question, about to try now.21:43
moucheSumoJim: well typing too. Have it go through a list of combinations, type one in, wait, hit enter or click OK, and repeat21:43
Tunn3lyeah!!!21:43
Tunn3lxD21:43
beanpole_hey i have one question why do debian fanboys hate ubuntu fanboys21:43
MonkeyDustbeanpole_  that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic21:44
Tunn3lbeanpole_, that isn't true21:44
beanpole_unfortunately it is true21:44
Tunn3l!ask | beanpole_21:44
Boohbahhawkal1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/removing-password-from-pdf-on-linux/21:44
ubottubeanpole_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:44
beanpole_:P21:44
SumoJimmouche: combinations of what? I haven't bee nkeeping up with conversations not directed at me, but I suspect your message was intgended for someome else?21:44
dogmatic69Hi all. Could anyone confirm that ubuntu would run this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/StorageTek-Fibre-Channel-1-9TB-14-Bay-HDD-Array-JBOD-NAS-/17083066830621:45
moucheSumoJim: whoops, it must have been21:45
beanpole_u all should be happy microsoft is baneed in germany ahahaha ;-021:45
chabiethis is my problem..21:45
Tunn3lBoohbah, does that password remover really work?21:45
chabiehttp://pastebin.com/nmZA44nB21:45
Tunn3lbeanpole_, please join #ubuntu-offtopic21:45
beanpole_how21:45
chabiethere is solved??21:45
beanpole_i have a problem21:45
Tunn3lwith /join #ubuntu-offtopic21:45
beonmaui12.01LTS trouble still.  pointers towards this error anybody? system non-bootable... device does not exist afaik and is definetly not plugged in.  I need to edit an etc file somewhere I'd guess?? Just wanna boot, recover files, reinstall if needed. --->  sd 5:0:0:0 [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through21:45
chabieplease i'm newbie21:45
beanpole_why ubuntu boots so slow zubuntu is faster21:45
Tunn3lomg21:46
BoohbahTunn3l: you will notice that the password is required :)21:46
beonmauievery 50 seconds21:46
mouchehawkal1: if you can't enter the password from the cli, you could automate typing/clicking using Autokey. It uses python, so you could store the combinations in a list and then iterate over it.21:46
beanpole_can ny 1 help me21:46
Tunn3lBoohbah, arghh haha21:46
vltHello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?21:46
beanpole_odr wise i will delete ubuntu and install fedora 1721:46
Tunn3lbeanpole_, go ahead21:46
BoohbahTunn3l: but only 372 possible passwords can be bruteforced21:47
beanpole_waiting for fedora to release :)21:47
krababbelbeonmaui: what device21:47
Tunn3lBoohbah, I found that one yeah :) with a little trick21:47
beonmauikrababbel: it thinks a usb flash drive21:47
beanpole_lol ubuntu users r fanboys ahaha :)21:47
beonmauikrababbel: sdb on boot, if I plug in another it's sdc error..  etc21:47
hawkal1boobbah + Mouche: Thank you very much21:47
krababbelbeonmaui: you don't use it anymore? is that hdd you boot from?21:47
beonmauikrababbel: nope, sda21:48
beanpole_opensuse > fedora > ubuntu21:48
beonmauikrababbel: glitchy and odd.  started weeks ago, but now the system won't boot21:48
krababbelbeonmaui: I had boot problems with one usb stick sometimes, changed it21:48
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beonmauikrababbel: again, no usb sticks inserted at all21:48
beonmauikrababbel: lenovo ideabook, internal sata 500G, nothing else21:49
beanpole_Ok, the above is not that much of a real issue, but this is the main issue with Ubuntu. In my case, with every Ubuntu install comes new bugs.21:49
beonmauikrababbel: can't diagnose well without a CD, and need to make a livecd USB stick I guess.  Suggestions?21:49
beonmauimm, guess I can plug in my external cd, off to try21:49
olivier4444beanpole_: what was wrong with unity?21:49
krababbelbeonmaui: not really, a device which isn't plugged in, should be more than an empty file in linux21:49
beanpole_tablet interface aah21:50
krababbelunity ruleolzorz beanpole_21:50
beanpole_Ubuntu seems extra slow – All other distros are faster in comparison.21:50
beonmauikrababbel: I agree21:50
olivier4444are you trying it out on a tablet?21:50
SumoJimkrababbel: Yea, live CD doesn't seem to be boothing to desktop, but I was able to install just fine with it... I'm going to try burning a new one.21:50
krababbelbeonmaui: look in udev persistent rules maybe in /etc/21:50
GRMrGeckoHow can I contact an channel moderator?21:50
beonmauikrababbel: nonetheless, the device seems to get autocreated every boot21:50
krababbelbeonmaui: and rebuild initramfs, but i'm new21:50
beanpole_yaaa ubuntu is better in tablets than in desktop imo21:51
GRMrGeckoa user is spamming me21:51
beanpole_lulz21:51
beonmauikrababbel: mm, thx, will keep looking21:51
krababbelGRMrGecko: go to #freenode21:51
beanpole_mint does a gr8 job they listen to the users21:51
chabiewoooooiiii21:51
ant___Hi21:51
chabiejancok21:51
chabieasu21:51
chabiehttp://pastebin.com/nmZA44nB21:51
chabieany solved?21:51
beanpole_unity has improved i must say :) but still :P21:52
ant___What's the easiest way of getting my global IP from the command line???21:52
zykotick9GRMrGecko: if you want an #ubuntu OP, try #ubuntu-ops21:52
beanpole_nvidia is buggy in ubuuntu lol21:52
Unknown_ant: wget -q -O - ipxen.com | tail -n 121:52
GRMrGeckozykotick9: They are going on about SolusOS21:52
GRMrGeckowhatever that is21:52
chabierungu'no aku cok21:52
krababbelGRMrGecko: in #freenode the people were happy to note the spammer21:52
ant___I'll try that.21:52
Unknown_also works in conky ant21:52
ant___That's perfect, thank you!21:53
chabiefuck u all21:53
chabieplease help me21:53
beanpole_ahaha21:53
MonkeyDust!patience21:53
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:53
beanpole_chubbyface21:53
ant___Yeah, mine was solved, thanks to unknown)21:54
nuaimathello all, i had a xmbcbuntu setup on acer aspire revo, its connected though lan port eth0 , i can access it from LAN, but it is not connected to the net, while my other laptop connected to the same LAN can access the net. what might be the problem ? thanks :)21:54
ant___Unknown_: would you care to explain that command?21:54
ant___It works a treat, I'm just curious.21:55
Unknown_wish ant?21:55
Unknown_with21:55
Unknown_curious about what?21:55
ant___The IP command line thing.21:55
desohey, I have Kubuntu installed on my Macbook Pro (5,5), brightness control won't work and the trackpad is overly sensitive when I'm trying to type; can anyone help me (I've done all the searching I can manage)21:55
Unknown_well wget pulls the index file from ipxen.com and then tail will grap the last line of the index file which is your ip address21:56
chabiei hate ubuntu forum21:57
chabiei hate ubuntu21:57
Unknown_chabie: me too21:57
ant___Sweet.  You mentioned conky, how would I integrate this into my config?21:57
TheDrumsYou can get your IP from ifconfig.me.21:57
chabiei quit21:57
MonkeyDustcurl ifconfig.me21:57
Unknown_@ant 1 sec ill get it out of my conky.conf21:58
Tunn3lConky <321:58
chabiesemua orang hanya mementingkan diri sendiri21:58
beanpole_http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=811321:58
Tunn3lchabie please speak english21:58
beanpole_my new awesome desktop21:58
beanpole_:P21:58
beanpole_http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=811321:58
MonkeyDustTunn3l  that was probably a rude insult21:58
schultza_rcherbaconky is an on screen widget that can display (configurable) status on your computer... has dependancies i believe21:58
Unknown_add this ant21:58
Unknown_${execi 3600 wget -q -O - checkip.dyndns.org|sed -e 's/.*Current IP Address: //' -e 's/<.*$//'21:58
Tunn3lnice beanpole_21:58
schultza_rcherba!conky21:58
Unknown_}21:58
GRMrGeckoThe only thing I like Ubuntu over Debian is the desktop environment modifications.21:58
beanpole_;p21:58
Unknown_use the execi 3600 then the other command21:59
Tunn3lbeanpole_, that is not the latest release?21:59
Unknown_also While ifconfig.me is good, ipxen is superior for configs, because it is just the plaintext IP.21:59
chabieaaaahhh.. all people just think about him self21:59
mouchebeanpole_: how do you replace menu text with an icon?21:59
beanpole_its zubntu 12.04 wtf21:59
Tunn3lah zubuntu21:59
schultza_rcherbabeanpole_, what are you using for your desktop ?22:00
schultza_rcherbaer GUI22:00
chabiewhere is the open mind here?22:00
beanpole_zoobuntu22:00
chabieis this nothing?22:00
Unknown_so ant22:00
chabiei hate u all22:00
Unknown_add this to your conky22:00
Sidewinder!ot > chabie22:00
Unknown_${exec 3600 wget -q -O - ipxen.com | tail -n 1}22:00
ubottuchabie, please see my private message22:00
Unknown_anything else?22:01
nuaimathello all, i have ubuntu setup, it's connected to LAN but not to internet, other devices connected to the same LAN can access inet, can anyone help please ?22:01
ant___And that updates automatically?22:01
schultza_rcherbachabie, it looks like it is trying to use an existing file on your computer to download with... first try a "apt-get purge [pkg]" on it first and then reinstall.. let me know what that does, please..22:01
beanpole_my neighbour is a windowze user he loves unity lol i know why canonical preers unity hahaha22:01
beonmauieasier one then:  lubuntu system error.  when I insert a USB I get a DBUS error, an open window looking at the drive, and a "removable mediam is inserted" window that asks me to open in a file manager.  Clues??22:01
Unknown_@ant yes22:01
ant___Thank you :D22:01
beonmaui12.01LTS as well, different system22:02
chabietaeeeeee'22:02
chabiejancoooook..22:02
beanpole_kubuntu is a real mess22:02
beanpole_:O22:03
Tunn3lgonna sleep! need to manage 300 users 2morrow22:03
beanpole_MICROSOFT BANNED IN GERMANY HOPE GERMANY WINS EURO 2012 AHAHAHA22:03
nuaimatguys, if you hate ubuntu, i don't know wtf are you doing here ? GTFO please !22:03
Tunn3lwin2k8 servers..22:03
Tunn3lblehh22:03
Tunn3lbeanpole_, should be kicked22:03
schultza_rcherbaeuro 2012?22:03
Tunn3lciao guys22:03
ant___Win 2k8??? gtfo22:04
Tunn3lthats what I said22:04
Tunn3lyep22:04
ant___Using a windows backend is akin to having porcelain foundations on a house.22:04
schultza_rcherbalol22:04
beanpole_windows 8 is looking bad also metro is shit ;p22:04
LnxMenhows Unity? :P22:05
ant___Aaaahahahaha Metro... wtf were they thinking with that one.22:05
a__BLARGGGGGGG22:05
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* schultza_rcherba is still having problems with the latest and greatest games on linux (dx9+)22:05
ThePendulumGreetings22:05
aaa801well i fixed it going blackscreen when it boots22:05
schultza_rcherbaunity? im sloooooowly getting used by it.. i mean used to it22:05
aaa801now its just the nomodeset issue :/22:05
ThePendulumSomeone suggested using a GPT partition table rather than an MSDOS one... however, Windows 7 can not be installed on a GPT partition table. What partition table should I be using to correctly install both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 with the option which OS to boot during start-up?22:06
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chabiefuck your ass baby22:06
LinuX2halfHow much does Chrome memory usage have?22:06
LnxMenI'm using Openbox and I'm satisfied xD22:06
LinuX2halfWhen I try to load a webpage, it said: "He's dead Jim"22:06
chabiefuck22:07
chabievagina22:07
Sidewinder!ops | chabie22:07
ubottuchabie: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler or Jordan_U!22:07
chabiedick22:07
beanpole_opera is best it has lowest memory in tabbed browsing22:07
beanpole_:)22:07
chabieubotton : fuck your dick alone22:07
yanochabie: that's enough22:07
chabiewhat??22:07
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beanpole_ahahah chabie what is ur problem u cannot play bf3 in ubuntu hahaha22:08
Sidewindergone22:08
escottThePendulum, that depends on what kind of system you have bios or efi. i was asking if you had an efi system22:08
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allensno no.. its trying to install a package and wants to install  another version of the file.. and erroring out... libtasn i think it was22:08
ThePendulumescott: I have an UEFI system, which I made clear22:08
escottThePendulum, then you MUST use GPT. Windows will not boot on EFI/MSDOS22:09
ThePendulumescott: I can't even install on GPT... and it can install on MSDOS and it booted on MSDOS22:09
escottThePendulum, on the ubuntu side you will have to install grub-efi to have a bootloader for ubuntu22:09
vltHello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?22:09
aaa801HOYL FUCKNITS I GOT IT WORKING22:09
escottThePendulum, then you don't have EFI. you have bios (or you are booting in bios emulation)22:09
ThePendulumescott: I am not an idiot22:10
escott!language | aaa80122:10
ubottuaaa801: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:10
aaa801escott, had to change driver in xorg and then use nomodeset -vga=733 i915.modeset=122:10
ThePendulumescott: I am sure I am running (U)EFI22:10
* aaa801 dances around the room happely22:10
imbezol!spelling aaa80122:10
imbezoldurn22:11
ThePendulumescott: Say it would be BIOS, then what partition table should I be using?22:11
aaa801ubuntu has killed my spelling skills, after messing with kernel settings for 3 hours ;)22:11
allenslol22:11
escottThePendulum, the only supported windows boot methods are UEFI+GPT or BIOS+MSDOS. the other two combinations are not supported22:11
ilpollospanish chanel please22:11
imbezol#ubuntu-es ?22:12
escottThePendulum, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Windows_x64_64-bit_versions22:12
ThePendulumescott: I get an error during the installation of Windows 7 that it can not be installed to a GPT disk... that's a fact22:12
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allensimbezol, si22:12
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escottThePendulum, you might have some kind of hybrid gpt/msdos partition table, which you can check by using gdisks22:14
Steve^How can I determine which entry in /dev corresponds to my DVD drive? I have a blank disk in the drive that I want to burn to22:15
beanpole_which is the best file manage dolphin nautilus or thunar ??/22:15
imbezolsteve^: usually /dev/dvd or /dev/dvdrw22:16
Steve^imbezol, I have neither :(22:16
imbezolSteve^: do you have cdrw?22:16
Aprelmy dvd drive is /dev/sr022:16
olivier4444nautilus22:16
olivier4444:)22:16
Steve^imbezol, nope22:16
Steve^Aprel, I have that one!22:16
beanpole_ahaahaha my dear frnd is back :)22:16
imbezolSteve^: on my system dvd, dvdrw, cd, cdrw, are all symlinks to sr022:16
Steve^awesome, thanks22:17
imbezolSteve^: hdparm -I /dev/sr022:17
beanpole_thunar is fast22:17
allensis there a /proc file for knowing what a drive is capable of?22:17
beanpole_neva eva use pcmanfm it is really very bad22:18
escottallens, it would be in /sys, but you can use wodim --scanbus22:18
Steve^imbezol, HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Bad address22:18
imbezolSteve^: you'll want to use sudo22:18
imbezolif you didn't already22:18
Steve^I do :)22:18
Steve^bonus kudos to you imbezol, thanks a bunch22:18
krababbelSteve^: is it a sata drive? tried setting the port to ide in bios?22:19
allensah, ok.. thanks escott... now that's a command im not going to remember soon22:19
escottallens, sorry confused you for another question wodim is specific to dvdrws22:19
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beanpole_lxde should be banned it is the worst desktop environment i have used in my entire linux life :)22:19
escottallens, if you want hard drives then use hdparm22:19
allensit was CD/DVD22:19
olivier4444everything default on ubuntu is best :)22:19
imbezolallens & escott, smartctl also gives a bunch of info on a harddrive22:19
allensi was trying to learn on someone else's issue.. :)22:19
beanpole_aahahah fanboy22:19
Guest36657Eh, I just hope they make a GS remix22:20
Guest36657Ubuntu makes everything they put their spirit into great.22:20
Guest36657And I love GS, Unity is just mroe refined.22:20
allensNo manual entry for smartctl22:20
beanpole_unity is slicker and faster have to agree :P22:20
imbezolallens: install smartmontools22:20
beanpole_canonical will screw it again in 12.10 :P hahaha22:20
Guest36657Well, in my experience GS is faster22:21
ilpollospanish chanel please22:21
Guest36657But Unity is more visually appealing22:21
Guest36657And more intuitive22:21
vlt!es | ilpollo Right where you are now:22:21
ubottuilpollo Right where you are now:: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:21
Guest36657And you get to have Compiz22:21
beanpole_i don't know what gnome devs want22:21
Guest36657But, I must ask: Unity 3d or 2d?22:21
ilpolloplease the spanish chanel, thanks22:22
Steve^3d22:22
beanpole_lol 3d22:22
beanpole_ahaha22:22
olivier44443d22:22
Steve^2d has bugs22:22
Steve^same as gnome classic22:22
Guest36657Yeah, it does.22:22
xangua!ot | Guest36657 Steve^22:22
Steve^and even that is bug-ridden when you use more than one monitor22:22
ubottuGuest36657 Steve^: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:22
beanpole_dock in 2d is not that gr 822:22
Guest36657But sometimes it feels smoother than 3d.22:22
Guest36657I'm still a 3d fan though.22:22
ForSparePartsCan anyone explain to me how to set emacs as my default text editor? I'm using gnome classic, if it matters. If I try to open anything in emacs it opens a blank buffer, unless I sudo emacs at the file from the terminal.22:22
sumojimI cannot get the Ubuntu 10.04 live CD to boot, I have already burned a second copy... Neither work, it just hangs with a pale purple background.22:23
escottForSpareParts, set EDITOR in your .bashrc22:23
ForSparePartsescott, will that fix the problem with opening blank buffers, too?22:23
ilpollosorry but i need help in the spanish chanel, i need the dir , thanks22:24
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | sumojim22:24
ubottusumojim: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:24
escottForSpareParts, if you get a blank buffer that goes away with sudo then its probably because you dont own the file. also you should not use sudo with gui programs22:24
escott!gksudo | ForSpareParts22:24
ubottuForSpareParts: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)22:24
beanpole_hey is dream studio good for desktop use22:24
beanpole_??22:24
ilpollo#ubuntu.es22:24
wormmdMy local terminal is rxvt-unicode-256color, but I get 'rxvt-unicode-256color': unknown terminal type.22:24
ForSparePartsescott, ubottu, thank you.22:25
wormmdFor a server I'm ssh'd into. How do I update it's TERMINFO or TERMCAP?22:25
wilee-nileesumojim, burn it as an image at a slow speed and check the bots link.22:25
ForSparePartsWould it be unreasonable to force emacs to start gksudo all the time if I'm going to be editing a bunch of config files and stuff outside my home directory?22:25
vltilpollo: You have already been there. What’s the problem with #ubuntu-es?22:25
ilpollo#ubuntu-es22:25
ForSparePartsLike, I've got wordpress in /opt, for instance -- it'd be nice to be able to easily edit files in there with emacs.22:25
beanpole_hey i have question what is difference between gksudo and sudo22:26
sumojimwilee-nilee: Image should be good, checking link now.22:26
imbezolwormmd: i think the server has to have support for it22:26
willie_Could I ask an opinion really quick: Is getting a second monitor worth it? Does it increase your productivity at all? Is Ubuntu *automagically* compatible with multiple monitors?22:26
imbezolwormmd: you can just change your .bashrc to say if $TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color then set it to xterm-color22:26
Aprelwillie: ubuntu is compatible. Make sure your gfx card supports it tho22:26
xangua!gksu | beanpole_22:26
ubottubeanpole_: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)22:26
willie_Aprel: SHould I get a second one though?22:27
beanpole_thanks good info :)22:27
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imbezolwormmd: i eventually gave up on urxvt for that and other compatibility issues22:27
wormmdimbezol: I'll give that a go.22:27
imbezolwormmd: i've found roxterm to be great because it has all the features and can use sane TERM vars22:28
willie_Could I ask an opinion really quick: Is getting a second monitor worth it? Does it increase your productivity at all? Is Ubuntu *automagically* compatible with multiple monitors?22:28
ceti331__blender,blendercoders22:28
wo0fwillie_, it works. ok if your gpu can handle it22:29
imbezolwillie_: yes, yes, and yes22:29
beanpole_how to know if ubuntu is affected with virus22:29
beanpole_??22:29
Aprelwillie_: I use 2 monitors. Can't say i'm anymore prodictive. switching desktops in ubuntu is just as useful for me22:30
imbezolAprel: depends what you od22:30
imbezolAprel: i have a windows virtual machine on a second monitor because i have to be on a vpn full time as well22:30
beanpole_i heard ubuntu got infected with virus :O22:30
imbezolAprel: one monitor would be painful for my setup22:30
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wilee-nileebeanpole_, you have heard fud22:31
imbezolbeanpole_: in 15 years i have seen 2 linux virii and neither were very clever22:31
obynhi. i'm running xubuntu precise. i'd like to turn on an accesibility option that rapidly clicks if the mouse button has been held down for more than 1 second. i've looked around in the settings but found nothing.22:31
allensfud = fear,uncertain,doubt22:31
beanpole_good22:31
beanpole_why is kde so buggy man22:32
chsadosanybody proficient in truecrypt/how the boot loader works.  currently i am trying to encrypt my entire C: drive which has windows 7 installed.  on a seperate drive (D) i have ubuntu installed.  I am at the part of the ful system encryption (window here http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u46173/HTtruecryptfull6_1.jpg) asking me if i have a dual boot setup.  Does this not pertain to me since my 2nd OS is installed on a seperate drive than22:32
chsados my windows?22:32
FloodBot1chsados: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:32
beanpole_kde partition crashed man wanted to use kde 4.8 it looks good22:32
CAPITANOCiao a tutti!!!22:32
chsadosanybody proficient in truecrypt/how the boot loader works.  currently i am trying to encrypt my entire C: drive which has windows 7 installed.  on a seperate drive (D) i have ubuntu installed.  I am at the part of the ful system encryption (window here http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u46173/HTtruecryptfull6_1.jpg) asking me if i have a dual boot setup.22:32
chsadosDoes this not pertain to me since my 2nd OS is installed on a seperate drive than my windows?22:32
ForSparePartsSo, I tried opening a file my account has r/w permissions on in emacs through gnome right-click. Got a blank buffer.22:32
FloodBot1chsados: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:32
ForSparePartsAny idea why that might happen?22:32
beanpole_this chat should be improved22:33
sumojimwilee-nilee: Odd thing is, it boots normall after an install, but doesn't work in Live mode. My end goal is actually to get to a command prompt without X running so I can install an Nvidia driver.22:33
beanpole_gmusicbrowser is better than rhythmbo22:33
allenschsados, yes22:33
beanpole_banshee is shit22:33
zambahi there.. i was running two identical WD disks in a software raid-1 setup.. now the system has crashed and i need to retrieve the data off the disks.. when plugging either of the disks in a machine over usb, i see no partitions.. (fdisk -l returns nothing)..22:34
xangua!language | beanpole_22:34
ubottubeanpole_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:34
beanpole_sit22:34
beanpole_ahaha22:34
escottzamba, gpt? use parted -l22:34
beanpole_kde makes me angry man22:35
allensbeanpole_, why?22:35
beanpole_installer crashes22:35
beanpole_kubuntu crashed wtf22:35
chsadosallens - so YES i need to select that i AM using dual OS?22:35
beanpole_lol hot dvd drive it was saying lulz22:35
zambaescott: what's gpt?22:35
beanpole_kubuntu just got screwed by me lol22:36
allenschsados, I would... even though the other partition is on the other drive... are you trying to encrypt both of them or just windows?22:36
OerHeksbeanpole_, better join #kubuntu22:36
chsadosjust windows22:36
allensand this is really OT... is there a Truecrypt channel you can join?22:36
beanpole_ohh good idea22:36
chsadosthe c: drive - i have no idea how grub works22:36
allensyep... #truecrypt22:36
chsadosc: = windows d: = ubuntu22:36
beanpole_i ll scold em for a horrible release22:36
chsadosthanks allens ill confirm in that chan22:37
allenschsados, yw22:37
willie_Hey, do you guys know where I can find a guide/tutorial about all of the ins and outs and commands for IRC chatting? I'm new to it and I wish to learn more.22:37
wilee-nileesumojim, that's the nvidia card and attempts to have everyone work on a live cd, you can crtl-alt-f1 to a tty in the install and do the deeds I think.22:37
sumojimwilee-nilee: Not sure what you mean by a tty in the install, but you gave me the idea to do a sudo init 1 and ssh from another PC to install22:39
allenswait a min... init 1 has networking?22:39
wilee-nileesumojim, tty is just a command area outside of the desktop, not sure of the true definition.22:40
allensits a terminal device (tty)... ctrl+alt+f1 opens a full  screen command terminal22:40
escottzamba, just stop using fdisk. it doesnt work for everything22:41
allensvia wiki =>     tty, a Unix command that prints to standard output the name of the terminal connected to standard input.22:41
sumojimwilee-nilee: Yea, I was on earlier about a stopping X on a freshly installed version problem. Hitting any of crtl-alt-F[Any] takes me to a grey screen with no cursor and no prompt.22:41
allenswhat happens when you init 3 ?22:42
bob_trying to demo 12.04 but launcher panel is missing anyone know the fix?22:42
zambaescott: well, parted didn't show anything more22:42
sumojimwilee-nilee: I think it's a weird hardware compatability problem.22:42
allenssumojim, does the same thing happen when you init 1 or init 3?22:42
willie_bob_: try Alt-F2 then type in unity-panel22:42
sumojimallens: Yes22:43
willie_bob_: nevermind, just type in unity22:43
allenssumojim, how is this computer set up?22:43
sumojimIt's a brand new laptop. Super high end.22:43
sumojimallens: Brand new high end laptop for customer.22:44
sumojimallen: Need anything specific?22:44
beanpole_cpu22:44
allenssumojim, what i it doing?22:45
allenss/what i/what is22:45
mtrd`any idea how my mail adress could spam me ? All my research ended up with Windows anti malwares22:45
recon69_lapmtrd` it's easy to spoof an email, you can have it say it's from anyone including you22:46
beanpole_hey what is the meaning of power user ??22:46
mtrd`recon69_lap, the only thing i can do is... close this adress ?22:46
zykotick9!runlevels > allens22:47
ubottuallens, please see my private message22:47
recon69_lapmtrd` no, just because an e-mail says it's from an address does not mean it is. just change your password if you think you account is being used22:47
mtrd`oh, okay, thank you. :)22:47
beanpole_is mint really leapfrogging ubuntu ??22:48
sumojimallens: I's seemingly working fine except I can't stop X and get to a terminal to install an Nvidia driver.... Aparently it has an intel graphics card and Nvidia graphics card.22:48
allenszykotick9, that really doesnt help when im learning about init in LPIC-10122:48
Tangierawhat would be proper commands to display (a) ethernet speed & duplex (b) number of collisions?22:48
beanpole_mint is more popular than ubuntu lol22:48
mneptokbeanpole_: please stay on-topic22:49
beanpole_is distrowatch accurate22:49
sumojimallens: I will try to install Bumblebee once I can get an NVidia driver installed.22:49
beanpole_what is the topic22:49
mneptok!offtopic > beanpole_22:49
ubottubeanpole_, please see my private message22:49
escottzamba, if sudo parted -l /dev/sdb doesn't show anything it must not have a partition table. you could double check /proc/partitions22:49
beanpole_how to join offtopic22:49
minaswhen I open a terminal, the current directory is set to "~/.config"22:49
minashow can I change it to my home directory?22:50
mneptokbeanpole_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic22:50
zambaescott: well, it -has- to be.. because it has been running as a software raid22:50
zambaescott: i checked both disks and both were empty22:50
escottzamba, was this bios raid?22:50
zambaescott: no, software22:50
zykotick9minas: how are you starting Xorg?  lightdm (or other DM) or with startx?22:50
escottzamba, what do you mean software raid? mdadm?22:50
zambaescott: yes22:51
escottzamba, and you were running mdadm on the raw device?22:51
minaszykotick9: I'm sorry, I didn't understand anything of what you said22:51
sumojimDoes anyone have experience with an NVidia optimus graphics card and possibly Bumblebee?22:51
allenszykotick9, it still says to run "init 1" for changing the runlevel on upstart22:51
zykotick9minas: :) it's not an issue then.  good luck.  (why i asked, if you use startx then the default is whatever directory you started in)22:52
zykotick9allens: runlevels are largely all the same on debian/ubuntu22:52
OerHekssumojim i do not, but the guys in #bumblebee are up2date22:52
minaszykotick9: I just open it using ctrl-alt-t22:52
zykotick9allens: for example, init 1 isn't command line, and init 3 isn't xorg...22:52
zykotick9minas: sorry, i don't have a suggestion for you.22:53
Tangierawhat would be proper commands to display (a) ethernet speed & duplex (b) number of collisions?22:53
minaszykotick9: Thanks anyway :)22:53
allenszykotick9, sumo is trying to get out of x to a command prompt... ctrl+alt+f1 is not giving him a command prompt (he's updating graphics drivers)22:53
sumojimOerHeks: Oh, ok. Didn't even think to check if they had an IRC. I'll see if they have any ideas if my problems are surrounding that (I suspect so) thanks.22:54
zykotick9allens: well (i don't have any suggestions for that) but changing runlevels WON'T help22:54
zthwhat's the 12.04 choice of recommendation for a netbook?22:54
chsadosanother question: i am at the screen asking if there is "a non-windows boot loader (or boot manager) installed on the master boot record (MBR)?  again.  i have windows installed on C: and ubuntu on D:  in order for the screen to popup to allow me to dual boot i have to set D as the first boot drive..22:55
allenszykotick9, how will that not help?22:55
zykotick9!runlevels | allens22:55
ubottuallens: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.22:55
allenswhy didnt they change runlevels then?22:55
zykotick9allens: you can't stop xorg on ubuntu using runlevels22:55
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allensthat's outside debian's standard... Run Level 1 is known as ‘single user’ mode. A more apt description would be ‘rescue’, or ‘trouble-shooting’ mode. In run level 1, no daemons (services) are started. Hopefully single user mode will allow you to fix whatever made the transition to rescue mode necessary.22:55
zykotick9allens: well, maybe it can be done?22:56
allenssumojim, i dont know an answer for your problem at the moment.. and im on my way home in a few22:56
allensi know it's a nother distro, but i know it can be done in opensuse22:57
sumojimallens: No worries, I'll figure something out eventually.22:57
allensbut according to sumo, he doesnt get a command prompt (just a blank black screen) at init 1 or 322:57
chsadosis there anywat to see where grub is installed?22:57
escottchsados, there is the boot-info-script22:57
allenssumojim, i may be a lcd compat problem... try an external monitor for those modes?22:58
sumojimallens: I have an external monitor plugged in, but don't I need the nvidia driver to drive it?22:58
allenssumojim, for just a command prompt, you should be able to use the default vga driver while you are installing/upgrading the nvidia drivers22:59
allensgotta go... ttyl23:00
sumojimallens: Hmm... Maybey if I disable my Intel driver.23:00
sumojimallens23:00
sumojimallsns: later23:00
Tangierasumojin; can you disable the intel video in the bios?23:01
sumojimTangiera: My co-workers said they checked and they couldn't before they left for the day a few hors ago, I'll double check now.23:02
sumojimTangiera: Nope, no option.23:05
Tangierawhat about blacklisting the the driver for the intel?23:05
chsadosescott may i pm you?23:06
Tangieraif you blacklistlist the intel driver driver, it would never try to load23:06
chsadosin order to get my system to allow me to select ubunty i must select my D drive as first boot sequence.  if its at C it goes straight to windows.  I am trying to fully encrypt my C drive23:07
chsadosi am at a screen in truecrypt asking if there is "a non-windows boot loader installed in the master boot record"23:07
sumojimTangiera: Alright, just Googled how to do that's I'll try that in a minute.23:07
chsadosim wondering if i hsould say yes or no to this questions23:07
recon69_lapchsados: I'm betting you're not fully backed up :)23:08
chsadosnot fully...but minimilly :D23:09
chsadosall my movies/docs/passwords are on an external right now i just dont want to have to reinstall windows23:10
psusichsados, and where are windows and ubuntu installed?23:10
chsadoswindows is installed on C drive ubunty on D23:10
stef1aI'm using 12.04 and Unity. I cannot edit the top panel -- no combination of clicks works. I've tried every combo of fn, the windows button, shift, ctrl, and alt while clicking, but nothing works. help?23:10
chsadosin order to get the dual boot screen i have to have D set as first boot in bios23:11
psusichsados, so what's the question?23:11
chsadosmy question is considering the above - is grub installed on D or C?23:11
psusichsados, apparently "D"23:11
stef1ai should mention that i've been using the right mouse button.23:12
chsadosits asking me if a non windows boot loader (ie grub im assuming in my case) is installed on the master boot record23:12
chsadosand i think the master boot record is on D since this is a windows thing?23:12
psusichsados, normally grub is installed to the MBR, yes...23:12
trismstef1a: you can't edit the unity panel (well, except for installing/uninstalling indicators), if you install gnome-panel and select gnome classic on the login screen you can edit the panel with alt+right click23:12
psusichsados, each drive has its own MBR23:12
psusichsados, it sounds like you have grub installed on one drive and windows on the other23:13
chsadospusi when i have C selected as first boot HDD it goes straight to windows so i dont think grub would be in that MBR?23:13
chsadosyes23:13
chsadosso im thinking for this question i should select NO i do not have a non windows boot loader installed on my master boot record (c:)23:13
chsadosc:  *23:14
Tangierachsados; the answer would be "yes",23:14
chsadoshrmmm23:14
stef1atrism: but won't that get rid of the unity side panel? :/23:14
chsadosi just installed ubunty literally 24 hours ago its fresh... perhaps it would be safest to just format the D drive and to truecrypt without all these complicated boot sector stuff?23:15
trismstef1a: it will, what modifications did you want to make with the panel?23:15
Tangierachsados; whichever driver you have set to boot in the bios is the drive with the MBR in it23:15
stef1atrism: I want to add an app to it23:15
stef1aan indicator app23:15
chsadostangiera but when i select it as C to boot first it goes straight to windows23:16
naryfachsados: you want the safest way? leave windows on its own drive, install linux on another, and install bootloader on the same drive you install linux on.23:16
chsadosso there must be a MBR on c as well23:16
openosHelloo23:16
naryfachsados: that's how I've always done it23:16
escottchsados, you have multiple mbrs one for each disk23:16
Tangierachsados; when "d" is set to boot in the bios, then "d" is the C: drive, when "c" is set to boot in the bios then "c" is the "C:" drive23:16
naryfachsados: upon boot on ONE TIME BOOT SCREEN (if your mobo has that feature) just select the drive to boot from23:16
trismstef1a: which indicator?23:16
stef1atrism: for an app called 'workaholic'23:17
openosSomeone know how to remove unity and gnome shell after kde instalation ?? and how To make kde defaur DE23:17
xangua!purekde | openos23:17
ubottuopenos: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde »23:17
stef1ait has no terminal options, and the only way to edit its preferences is from the panel indicator (this is how i did it in 10.10)23:17
Tangierachsados; they both have an MBR, but only the MBR on the drive you're currently booting from counts23:17
openosAnd How To make KDE DEFAULT IDE23:17
chsadosok...so im going to hit yes. :S23:18
chsadosif this screws everything up whats going to happen lol23:18
trismstef1a: oh, the indicator is there, you just want to get to the preferences?23:18
HoNgOuRudoes anyone have sopcast installed on ubuntu ?????23:18
trismstef1a: left click, it is just a menu23:18
Tangierathe world will explode and godzilla will stomp on your house23:18
escottchsados, you can always boot to livecd and chroot in to reinstall grub23:18
naryfaopenos: sudo apt-get remove unity unity-2d unity-2d-panel unity-2d-spread unity-asset-pool unity-services unity-lens-files unity-lens-music unity-lens-applications gir1.2-unity-5.0 unity-common indicator-sound indicator-power indicator-appmenu libindicator7 indicator-application indicator-datetime indicator-messages libnux-2.0-0 nux-tools libunity-misc4 unity-2d-common23:18
HoNgOuRuany sopcast user here?23:18
HoNgOuRuneed a quick hand23:18
Prodigal_how to I install java to firefox? i downloaded the tar.gz and unzipped it23:19
openos<naryfa> what about gnome shell how te remove it and Make kde Default23:19
naryfaopenos: to have KDE as a default you have to logout, choose KDE in LDM login screen and leave it that way.23:19
naryfaopenos: log back in23:19
psusichsados, answer to what question?23:20
xanguaProdigal_: if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras it will install openjdk with is already on the repository23:20
chsadoswell i selected YES and i got an error see here http://i.imgur.com/bDlYt.png23:20
naryfaopenos: first make KDE default23:20
escottopenos, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf user-session23:20
naryfaopenos: before removing other stuff23:20
Prodigal_so apt-get install ubuntu-restricted?23:20
openosokey a will do that now23:20
naryfaopenos: or take escott's advice23:20
pzni know nothing about dlna... can I "stream" some app screen via dlna to a TV using ubuntu?23:21
recon69_lapProdigal_: try  type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts"23:21
Prodigal_thank recon23:21
zykotick9recon69_lap: there is no sun-java* in ubuntu repos anymore23:22
psusichsados, truecrypt does not play nice with grub23:22
chsadosblarg23:22
trismstef1a: if the app only has a status icon and it isn't showing up, you may need to whitelist it though, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30742/how-do-i-access-and-enable-more-icons-to-be-in-the-system-tray23:23
Prodigal_in the tar folder i downloaded i have the bin lib man plugin folders...but cant get it to install23:23
openosHow To Make this work in terminal /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf user-session23:23
chsadosi think im just going to delete my ubuntu installation on D and truecrypt C alone.  and run ubuntu on a thumb drive and encrypt the entire thumb drive.23:23
naryfaopenos: sudo nano /etc/...... , or sudo gedit /etc/.....23:24
openosi have kate23:24
Tangierachsados; you could just temporarily disconnect the ubuntu drive while setting up truecrypt and then reconnect it later23:24
naryfaopenos: use kate then23:24
openosthere is a Blank doc23:25
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recon69_lapProdigal_: maybe "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" and "java -version" to see if it's installed23:25
naryfaopenos: do the same without user-session23:25
openosOki23:25
openosYEah now It's work23:26
escott!gksudo | naryfa openos23:26
ubottunaryfa openos: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)23:26
openosuser-session=gnome-shell I need to change it to user-session=kde23:26
intokok, riddle me this batman, why is it on the POS comp I can transcode full 1920x1080p H.264 video files to a DVD.iso using DeVeDe, yet I can't transcode them anything else using Artista or Transmagedon since both of them crash after chewing on the file for a few mins.23:27
naryfaescott: I don't even know if kate is graphical, never used KDE23:27
Prodigal_thanks recon that did it23:27
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naryfaopenos: I think yes23:27
openos<naryfa>  i need now to put kde in the place of gnome shell23:28
openoslike this user-session=kde23:28
naryfaopenos: yeah23:28
openos<naryfa> Thank You Broth23:29
maradona10is debian ny good23:29
openosnow how to remove gnome shell23:29
naryfaopenos: sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell-*23:29
Tangieramaradona10; it's the spiritual mentor of ubuntu23:29
intokmaradona10 yeah, ubuntu is based on Debian, and Mint is based on Ubuntu23:29
sumojimI wish to blacklist my intel graphics driver, how can I find the name of the driver?23:29
maradona10should i install debian instead of ubuntu23:30
naryfaand wrigleys-spearmint is based on mint lol23:30
naryfamaradona10: you will have a higher learning curve23:30
maradona10should i go for it now23:30
naryfamaradona10: if you think you can handle it, go ahead23:30
maradona10i am thinking about replacing 10.04 lts23:30
intokmaradona10 thats entirely up to you, for the average person Ubuntu or Mint are much eaisier to got to from Windows or Mac then Debian23:31
escottmaradona10, debian has a strong focus on FOSS so things like "jockey" to install proprietary drivers are not present in debian23:31
naryfamaradona10: how long have you used Ubuntu?23:31
maradona102\3 days23:31
naryfamaradona10: +1 to mana for escott, vital info23:31
recon69_lapmaradona10: lol, replacing 10.04 indeed23:31
escottmaradona10, so look at things like http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and see if you want to deal with things like that or not23:31
Tangierayou wouldn't have stupid things like unity in debian23:32
maradona10debian is ugly23:32
Tangieraall computing is ugly23:32
maradona10is flash pre installed in debian23:32
naryfamaradona10: it's not23:33
naryfamaradona10: but it isn't difficult to install either23:33
maradona10is debian the oldest distro23:33
xangua!ot | Tangiera maradona1023:33
ubottuTangiera maradona10: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:33
OerHeksmaradona10, no need for flash with html523:33
naryfaOerHeks: how come?23:33
CookieM_slackware is the oldest23:34
maradona10how to use html523:34
maradona10is arch community better than ubuntu debian community23:34
naryfamaradona10: lol, try23:35
OerHekshttp://www.youtube.com/html523:35
lionofgodcan someone please go to /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme and tell me the contents of the file?23:35
Tangieraubuntu has the most active irc support channels. The others are kind of silent most of the time23:35
naryfaOerHeks: nice, thanks23:35
maradona10is mint better than ubuntu23:36
lionofgodno23:36
lionofgodobvs we gonna say yes23:36
jclinuxhey all, new here with a strange question: i've accidentally multipathed my root filesystem on 12.04; how can i revert that?23:36
OerHeksmaradona10, stop trolling, this is ubuntu support.23:36
lionofgodlol23:36
maradona10i heard mint looks good23:36
lionofgodcan someone please tell me the results of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme!!!!23:36
lionofgod^Sorry i meant the contents23:37
jclinuxi'm trying to multi path another pair of SAN LUNs and finally got that but my config caused /dev/sda filesystems to become multipathed23:37
naryfajclinux: how did you multipath it? What does it mean?23:37
maradona10what is this zorin os23:37
jclinuxconfiguring /etc/multipath.conf23:37
xanguamaradona10: do you have an ubuntu support question¿23:37
maradona10which is the best distro i want to install in my inspiron23:37
maradona10tell me the best distro23:38
lionofgodWould someone please tell me the contents of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme I screwed around with the file so I need to know its original contents23:38
escott!best | maradona1023:38
ubottumaradona10: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.23:38
Tangieramaradona10; have you used any kind of linux or unix before 2/3 days ago? If not, stick with ubuntu for a while and then switch later if you outgrow it23:38
lionofgodmaradona10: Youw anna become a haxor, do backtrack23:38
sumojimI wish to blacklist my intel graphics driver, how can I find the name of the driver? lspci seems to give discriptions rather than names.23:38
escottsumojim, lsmod23:38
lionofgodmaradona10: You wanna learn to use linux and then learn to ahck, use ubuntu then backtrack 523:38
escottsumojim, i believe it would i91523:38
maradona10i wanna hear musci do some owrd works burn dvds play browser games23:39
lionofgodWould someone please tell me the contents of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme I screwed around with the file so I need to know its original contents23:39
maradona10suggest me a distro23:39
lionofgodUbuntu23:39
jclinuxi configured my multipath.conf with "multipathd -k" show config command then added a multipath config for the wwn for my SAN device, but i'd left out sda devices from the blacklist23:39
lionofgod= epic eyecandy + usability23:39
Tangieramaradona10; ubuntu will do all that23:39
maradona10is 12.04 good23:39
lionofgodCan someone PLEASE answer my QUESTION!!!23:39
lionofgodWould someone please tell me the contents of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme I screwed around with the file so I need to know its original contents23:39
OerHeks!repeat | lionofgod23:39
ubottulionofgod: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:39
naryfasumojim: what if you search for intel in synaptic? will it show up?23:40
escottlionofgod, [Icon Theme]\nInherits=core23:40
lionofgodk ty23:40
maradona10is 1204 better than 10.0423:40
escottmaradona10, stop it23:40
maradona10i heard both has compiz23:40
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maradona10stop what23:41
Tangieralionofgod; is the original file on your install disc?23:41
lionofgodesscot gave me the contents23:41
escottmaradona10, asking offtopic questions. go to #ubuntu-offtopic23:41
lionofgodthanks : )23:41
maradona10should i stay with 10.04 or should i install 12.0423:42
maradona10tell me quick23:42
naryfamaradona10: make your own decision23:42
kingofswordsmy net is only partially working23:42
lionofgodmaradona10: You need to watch porn? Ubuntu23:42
maradona10my frnd installed me this 10.0423:42
lionofgodBest image quality23:42
lionofgodvery sharp23:43
CookieM_lionofgod try turning on hidden files, altered files are still on the disk23:43
naryfahhahh23:43
Guest75029I am ™ Guest75029 ™23:43
jclinuxlet me rephrase my question: is there likely a relatively simple procedure for unmultipathing a root fiesystem or is it going to be something convoluted involving changing device symlinks, grub.conf, etc.?23:43
lionofgodCookieM_: thanx23:43
maradona10i don't watch porn just see a girl face and masturbate23:43
escott!ops23:43
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Tangieramaradona10; sometimes older versions are more stable23:43
lionofgodmaradona10: let me point you to Ubuntuofftopic...23:43
maradona10kk23:43
lionofgodmaradona10: and 12.04 is REally stable23:43
kingofswordsany1 in here know how to fix ubuntu problems?23:44
maradona10which is better btrfs or e423:44
naryfakingofswords: what's the specific problem?23:44
kingofswordsdont know....23:44
maradona10ok i have decide iwill install this pangoling23:44
escottkingofswords, details please23:44
kingofswordsmynet is loading half the web pges i want but not other half23:44
maradona10bye all thanks for help23:44
maradona10if i run in2 trouble i will comeback okk23:45
kingofswordsescott, in fact web isnt workin  at all nowe23:45
escottkingofswords, (a) can you ping those website (open a terminal and type "ping www.google.com" or some other website) (b) do you have a proxy of any kind?23:46
kingofswordsescott, i tether on a mobile23:46
sumojimescott: lsmod shows (Not exact format) [vgastate->vga1bfb], [videodev->uvcvideo], [v4l1_compat->uvcvideo, videodev], [output->video]. I'm assuming I need to blaccklist v4l1_compat? (I see no mention of i915) I may try naryfa's suggestion to look it up and temporarily uninstall it.23:46
maradona10hey guys mageia 2 just released should i install it23:46
escottkingofswords, good chance they are throttling you. are you paying for mobile tethering23:46
maradona10i have installed mandriva23:47
hoanghoatham_ajffff23:47
maradona10is mageia based on mandriva23:47
kingofswordsescott, no throttling....its proper unlimited, been using for months now23:47
twilson_Hi I'm on 12.04 with the latest updates. When I booted up this morning none of my windows contain borders or title bars, there are other problems too, Alt-Tab doesn't switch between windows anymore, Settings > Window manager and Settings > Window Manager Tweaks don't load (grey screen only). It makes it a bit difficult to get things done23:47
escottsumojim, uvcvideo is for your camera not the video card. not sure what vga1bfb23:47
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avinashHi friends, i am not able to mount a cifs directory in 12.04 .. was using 11.10 and was working .. not sure what is goofed up .. "sudo mount -t cifs 192.168.10.29:Public /media/labs.Public -o username=amahadeva"23:47
avinashcommand isn't working .. can some one pls help23:47
mneptok!offtopic > maradona1023:47
ubottumaradona10, please see my private message23:47
kingofswordsescott, pinged google and it just keeps listed results23:48
escottmneptok, can you just kick him, he has been at it for a good 15minutes now23:48
escottkingofswords, what about the websites that werent working?23:48
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kingofswordsescott, they were working earlier23:48
oqpoHi, I need to install java, but I don't know which of all versions. I see there is openjdk-6-jre and openjdk-7-jre, and also the one from Oracle. Which one is the recommended?23:48
kingofswordsescott, too many sites for it sites being down23:49
nodestooloqpo: i tend to use sun-java23:49
nodestooloqpo: you can install more than one, and choose which one to use as the default23:49
escottmneptok, thanks23:49
kingofswordsescott, on speedtest im getting 128 ping and 4.58meg dl23:50
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avinashif i check "man mount", username option isn't there .. but it was there in 11.10 and was working gr8 .. now it doesn't ..23:50
arooni-mobile__hi folks.  my hard drive is dying.  other than /home ... what should i be backing up prior to swapping the disk?23:51
oqponodestool: ah, that is a good idea, I will try the the openjdk-7-jre one.23:51
auuHello. I have a new laptop. My wireless is not working. I downloaded the driver and ran the installation but it failed resulting into network totally down as well (I needed to reboot:D).. I am having NB Lenovo IdeaPad Z570 and the wifi is Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)23:51
Tangieraarooni-mobile__; if you have enough space for backup, backup everything23:52
psusiarooni-mobile, if you don't want to have to reinstall, everything23:52
escottkingofswords, it sounds like things are working, but that you might just be overusing the limited connection23:52
kingofswordsescott, its not limited thou....23:52
arooni-mobile__Tangiera, well i dont have an unlimited space23:52
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escottkingofswords, bandwidth limited23:52
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kingofswordsescott, it is an actual unlimited bandwidth23:52
Tangieraarooni-mobile__; what percentage of your used space is available for backup space23:53
kingofswordsescott, its true unlimited unlike other mobile networks23:53
escottkingofswords, Bandwidth (computing) or digital bandwidth: a rate of data transfer, bit rate or throughput, measured in bits per second (bps)23:53
kingofswordsescott, 4.28meg?23:53
escottkingofswords, with a fairly high ping23:54
TomKanghi all, i installed android on ubuntu, but it error, Can you send  link steps install android?23:54
auuanyone to help me with the wifi card? please?23:54
kingofswordsescott, i dont normal have problems getting on these sites23:54
naryfasumojim: did it show up?23:54
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kingofswordsescott, plus the fact my ubuntu updated it self last nite plus ive constantly been having probs with ubuntu23:55
escottkingofswords, then you have to be more specific about a website that isnt working. then you can ping it, and perhaps try running wget to see if you can download anything23:55
arooni-mobile__Tangiera, i have eough froom for most of /home .. but should i be backing up anything else?  /var/  /opt/ etc23:55
kingofswordsescott, its half the sites im using23:55
escottkingofswords, then pick one that isnt working right now23:55
kingofswordsescott, what is ping readout suppose to be?23:56
Tangieraarooni-mobile__; home would be most important, unless you have custom files in other directories, the other directories would be reinitialized on a reinstall23:56
escottkingofswords, 128ms is high, but not awful. 50ms is normal for me23:57
kingofswordsescott, 128 seems norm for me...but its a molbile so not bad i guess23:57
knightrageauu: guessing you got the driver off of http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false ?23:57
escottkingofswords, if it is responding to ping then try running "wget http://www.google.com" replacing www.google.com with whatever website you want23:58
auuknightrage: yes. maybe the trouble is I'm having a new kernel coming with 12.1023:58
cosmicfireshow can I use 2 nvidia video cards with 12.04?23:58
auuknightrage: I mean 12.04 :)23:58
kingofswordsescott, whats wget do?23:58
escottkingofswords, it will download the text of the website (no images)23:59
kingofswordsahh nice one ty23:59

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