[00:00] <syed> i wont get kicked out of the irc due to inactivity?
[00:00] <Rob_s820> Ztane: Would you like a list of the device types?
[00:01] <OerHeks> syed, no
[00:01] <syed> okay - thanks! : )
[00:01] <GreekFreak> escott, I'm doing chmod +x myfilename.exten and the permissions won't change from -rw---(etc)
[00:01] <escott> GreekFreak, its on an external media. what filesystem is this?
[00:01] <zykotick9> GreekFreak: if it's on fat/ntfs you can't apply posix permissions
[00:03] <GreekFreak> escott, zykotick9, thank you. it's ntfs. I'll move it to the ubuntu drive
[00:03] <Rob_s820> Does anyone else have a solution to unresponsive Wi-Fi? I can connect to my home network but nothing related to the Internet will load.
[00:04] <nydel> apport tends to freeze up on my system, anything i can do about this? it keeps having an error itself then trying to report that & so on
[00:04] <Ztane> Rob_s820: hmmm that is stranger
[00:05] <Rob_s820> Ztane: Is there any info you need that could help figure this out?
[00:06] <escott> Rob_s820, can you ping your router?
[00:06] <nydel> could use some help: cloud reader at read.amazoncom shows up blank - i guess that it is a java applet? i tried updating the open-source java runtime environment & the icedtea plugin. any help greatly appreciated
[00:07] <Rob_s820> escott: How would I do that?
[00:07] <escott> Rob_s820, first figure out your ip with "ifconfig"
[00:08] <escott> Rob_s820, look for inet addr
[00:08] <Rob_s820> escott: it is 192.168.1.106
[00:08] <escott> Rob_s820, so the router is probably 192.168.1.1. so "ping 192.168.1.1" and see what it says
[00:09] <rebe> ok guys and how do I change name in the way that I changed hostname ?
[00:09] <escott> rebe, your username?
[00:09] <zykotick9> !hostname | rebe be careful!
[00:10] <Rob_s820> Escott: it says, "from 192.168.1.106 icmp_seq=# Destination Host Unreachable"
[00:10] <escott> Rob_s820, was this a wireless or wired connection
[00:11] <lewellyn> so, how does one troubleshoot ubuntu not doing anything that resembles "bringing an installer onscreen" when booting off the 12.04 desktop cd? http://www.twitvid.com/K6JGD is what i see on my monitor (from when POST ends till i stop recording at where it hangs)
[00:11] <Rob_s820> escott: Wireless. I am using a laptop.
[00:11] <escott> Rob_s820, how about pasting us the output of "ifconfig" "iwconfig" and "route" at paste.ubuntu.com
[00:12] <Rob_s820> escott: I don't have access to anything besides my iPhone here..
[00:12] <bandit5432> is there a way to see if a package was built with a certain commit applied?
[00:12] <VideoBear> Hello everyone, I'm trying to make some video calls with empathy on Precise, but I'm not able to do so. Sending and receiving webcam fails from both Jabber and MSN protocols. The persons I'm testing it with are on Pidgin on windows and Empathy on Ubuntu. Is it port related ? Thanks
[00:12] <Rob_s820> escott: Anything in specific I could tell you?
[00:12] <temp12> What do i have to type in the ./bashrc so that every time my computer boots up, it browses to a directory and executes python server.py? if i just put python ~/server/server.py, it doesnt find the files anymore because it executes from home directory and lookes for files in home directory
[00:13] <GreekFreak> escott, it didn't create the file for the echo. This is what I ran:  https://gist.github.com/2765594
[00:13] <KingBeast> Can anyone explain to me why I keep hearing not to install the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[00:13] <escott> GreekFreak, the script you execute should be a normal script. it shouldn't have cron directives like the 42 1 ...
[00:14] <m1jj> hi, is postfix secure on 10.04?
[00:14] <OerHeks> VideoBear, if you both use msn, it is a msn service problem.
[00:14] <escott> Rob_s820, i would advise disabling any wpa while you debug, but thats going to be harder since you cannot connect to the router
[00:14] <OerHeks> KingBeast, who tells you that ?
[00:15] <KingBeast> I keep seeing it on a lot of 12.04 videos
[00:15] <Rob_s820> escott: So what would you suggest?
[00:15] <escott> temp12, commands to be run once on boot should go in rc.local
[00:15] <KingBeast> OerHeks, ^^
[00:15] <bandit5432> KingBeast, dont listen and install any way
[00:15] <escott> Rob_s820, make a wired connection?
[00:15] <lewellyn> anyone? i'd think that there'd be a simple list of "try this if you can't get ubuntu to install" things, but even the release notes are pretty bare
[00:16] <VideoBear> OerHeks: Surprisingly, it doesn't work under Jabber either. I can't receive or send video or the option is grayed out
[00:16] <OerHeks> KingBeast, depends on what videocard, so state yours ?
[00:16] <KingBeast> OerHeks, 9400gt
[00:16] <bandit5432> lewellyn, how long did you let that screen continue?
[00:16] <OerHeks> KingBeast, no problem AFAIK
[00:17] <lewellyn> bandit5432: it's been going since i recorded that video ;)
[00:17] <bandit5432> lewellyn, ew
[00:17] <KingBeast> OerHeks, ok thanks
[00:17] <lewellyn> so over a half hour now.
[00:17] <GreekFreak> escott, I removed them and still nothing.
[00:17] <lewellyn> a half hour is more than enough time for a blinky cursor to go away, i'd assume.
[00:17] <bandit5432> lewellyn, what hardware are you using?
[00:18] <lewellyn> it's a D865PERL board with a 2.66 GHz P4, 3 GB RAM, and a fun assortment of PCI cards
[00:18] <Rob_s820> escott: Never mind. I can't do this right now.
[00:19] <bandit5432> lewellyn, try changing the boot options when you start the boot process see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options
[00:19] <escott> GreekFreak, what happens when you run that file directly?
[00:19] <bandit5432> i would try with acpi=off option first
[00:19] <escott> GreekFreak, also why would "theo" have write access to /log
[00:20] <lewellyn> bandit5432: oh. that's what that symbol means. that's very unintuitive :/
[00:20] <bandit5432> lewellyn, i dont like it myself but after several years you get used to it
[00:20] <GreekFreak> escott, uhm.. it says 'command not found'
[00:20] <lewellyn> bandit5432: i'm going to go spend some time fighting with it. i'll bbiab now that i know how to get to something usefulish.
[00:21] <bandit5432> lewellyn, all good have fun you might pull some of the pci catrds and see what happens
[00:21] <escott> GreekFreak, how are you trying to execute the script
[00:21] <bandit5432> turn off the boot splash while you are at it
[00:22] <GreekFreak> escott, I just typed the filename in the terminal
[00:22] <syed> my sound device configured wrong -- need help!
[00:22] <escott> GreekFreak, can you paste a terminal session. start with "ls -l /the/path/to/the/script" then "cat /the/path/to/the/script" then "pwd" and finally what you are doing to try and run it
[00:23] <syed> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11956889#post11956889
[00:23] <GreekFreak> escott, gimme a sec
[00:23] <syed> got a sony vaio VGN-AR31E
[00:23] <syed> sound device not working properly -- guessing the configuration is messed up
[00:25] <lewellyn> bandit5432: yeah. next up is yanking everything but the video card. trying all the likely boot options left me at a cursor again and no activity from the cd-rom
[00:25] <syed> need help with wrongly configured sound device -- loudspeaker not working -- but can hear sound through headphones when plugged in
[00:25] <GreekFreak> escott, https://gist.github.com/2765665
[00:25] <lewellyn> bandit5432: how do i turn off the boot splash btw?
[00:25] <bandit5432> lewellyn, let me look i never remember off the top of my head
[00:26] <lewellyn> k. i'll start unscrewing cards in the mean time :)
[00:26] <syed> my sound device configured wrong -- need help!
[00:26] <escott> GreekFreak, ~/Documents is not in your path. so you have to give a full path to the executable. a full path could be ./background_work.cron_jobs. this is still not going to work because "theo" wont be able to write to /log
[00:27] <bandit5432> lewellyn, have you tried booting with nomodeset ?
[00:27] <bastidrazor> lewellyn: in /etc/default/grub  remove "splash"  then save and do 'sudo update-grub'
[00:27] <rebe> sry I'm back, so how do I change username ?
[00:27] <bandit5432> bastidrazor, from the livecd
[00:28] <RealEyes> i changed my login password and now my keyring is asking me what the hell?
[00:28] <RealEyes> but i dont know my old password
[00:28] <RealEyes> how to fix?
[00:28] <escott> RealEyes, delete your keyring and create a new one
[00:29] <rebe> !username
[00:29] <Gyro54> A quick question - How do I shutdown in Gnome 3. I only have a suspend button?
[00:29] <GreekFreak> escott, why won't 'theo' be able to write? I just ran it as './background_work.cron_jobs' and the error was 'No such file or directory'. Nothing about permissions
[00:29] <bandit5432> lewellyn, F6 at the Install/Memtest/Check CD for Defects screen. Then delete the “quiet” and “splash” from the boot command line and continue booting from the CD
[00:30] <compdoc> Gyro54, are you logged into the console?
[00:30] <lewellyn> bandit5432: awseome thanks. i'll try that
[00:30] <bandit5432> lewellyn, no problem i wonder where its hanging
[00:30] <lewellyn> yanking out all the pci cards didn't help.
[00:30] <escott> GreekFreak, logs are owned by root. "theo" is not root. so "theo" will not be able to write to the logs
[00:30] <lewellyn> bandit5432: if i get something useful, i'll surely let you know :)
[00:30] <RealEyes> escott, how do i delete the keyring?
[00:30] <Gyro54> I can be but I thought I could shutdown from the GUI
[00:31] <GreekFreak> escott, 1. If I rename it to something else will it be ok? and 2. Can I not make the cron job run the file as root?
[00:31] <TadekMocarz> hi i have a question
[00:32] <TadekMocarz> anybody there
[00:32] <escott> GreekFreak, the cronjob will be run as root (provided it is in roots crontab) but in that case the script should be owned by root (its a security risk to allow a user like theo to own a script that root will execute)
[00:32] <Gyro54> compdoc: I only have a suspend option from the desktop and can't see how to change it to "shutdown"
[00:33] <KingBeast> lewellyn, is it a dell?
[00:33] <escott> RealEyes, probably ~/.gnome2/keyrings
[00:33] <VideoBear> Anyone knows why the audio/video call menu is grayed out in empathy on Jabber protocol ? Using Ubuntu 12.04. Thanks.
[00:33] <GreekFreak> escott, so all I need to do is add it to the /etc/crontab and run as root, right? and change the permissions of the script with sudo to be owned by root?
[00:34] <RealEyes> escott, login.keyrings or user.keystore or the whole folder?
[00:34] <KingBeast> VideoBear, do you have the plugin for video calls enabled?
[00:34] <escott> GreekFreak, it really should be (a) owned by root:root (b) placed in a root owned folder like /root/bin
[00:35] <escott> RealEyes, presumably the files will be enough. i dont know what the consequences of removing your keyring files will be, but if you dont have a password im not sure what other options you have
[00:35] <RealEyes> well, i do have a password
[00:35] <RealEyes> it just doesnt match the keyring
[00:36] <VideoBear> KingBeast: I didn't figure empathy used plugins. Strange thing is, it's disabled for some contacts, not all, but always fails.
[00:36] <afidegnum> hello, how do I delete all files in a current folder except the "curentdir" folder ?
[00:36] <TadekMocarz> can i haz a  question
[00:36] <RealEyes> if ubuntu gives me another critical error, im going back to arch
[00:37] <lewellyn> KingBeast: no
[00:37] <KingBeast> VideoBear, sorry I'm thinking pidgin
[00:38] <KingBeast> lewellyn, ok I was just going to suggest checking the bios for the OS install mode
[00:38] <lewellyn> bandit5432: removing quiet and splash wasn't useful. it still feels like it isn't actually attempting to load the kernel. i get the same behavior with "Check disc for defects". i'm booted into memtest successfully from the cd though.
[00:38] <afidegnum> sorry I didn't illustrated it properly, I have in the current folder, file1.txt, file2.ext folder1, folder1 "exceptionfolder"   I want to delete all except teh "exeptionfolder"
[00:38] <VideoBear> KingBeast: No problem. One contact I'm testing with use Pidgin on Windows though.
[00:38] <GreekFreak> escott, you're going a little ahead of me here. So I need to create the file using sudo (e.g. 'sudo gvim background_work.cron_jobs') and change it to an executable using sudo? And how do I move it to a root folder since I'm not allowed access to them, not even using 'sudo cd /root/'
[00:39] <bandit5432> lewellyn, did you check the iso checksum? or try booting the disk to live system in another box?
[00:39] <bandit5432> lewellyn, i have burnt some bad install disks before
[00:39] <lewellyn> bandit5432: i let the disc verify after burning, so i suspect it's not totally bum.
[00:39] <Gyro54> How do you shutdown in Gnome 3 for the desktop? I only have a suspend button?
[00:40] <TadekMocarz> CAN I HAZ A QUESTION
[00:40] <lewellyn> i'll try it in another box after i let memtest run a bit "just in case" ;)
[00:40] <bandit5432> lewellyn, so frustrating
[00:40] <GreekFreak> escott, $ sudo chown -R root:root background_work.cron_jobs  ?
[00:40] <bandit5432> TadekMocarz, ask dont ask to ask
[00:40] <TadekMocarz> OK
[00:40] <lewellyn> bandit5432: yes. i expect that ubuntu's not compatible with my hardware somehow.
[00:40] <GreekFreak> escott, sorry, maybe not the -R
[00:41] <escott> GreekFreak, (a) never use sudo with gvim. gksudo. (b) I would think chowning is easier, and (c) you can sudo mv
[00:41] <TadekMocarz> i was always interested in this mystery:  when there are students, and they live 2-3 persons/per room,   HOW and WHEN do they masturbate? its serious question
[00:41] <bandit5432> kick him please
[00:41] <TadekMocarz> ?
[00:41] <bandit5432> where is a op when you need one
[00:41] <lewellyn> and doesn't ubuntu ship with sudoedit?
[00:41] <TadekMocarz> why kick me
[00:41] <BaconAttack_> hey guys, right now i'm sitting at my server prompt. i want to install gnome so i have a gui for other people to use when they need to remote in with vnc. should i just install gnome-shell ? or the ubuntu-desktop?
[00:42] <BaconAttack_> its mainly for file serving and hosting a minecraft server so i dont need anything extra in it
[00:42] <TadekMocarz> will anybody answer my question, PLEAZE
[00:42] <bohemian9485> !info gnome-shell
[00:42] <bandit5432> lewellyn, i dont know what sudo edit is
[00:43] <TadekMocarz> i was always interested in this mystery:  when there are students, and they live 2-3 persons/per room,   HOW and WHEN do they masturbate? its serious question
[00:43] <bandit5432> so sad no ops :C
[00:43] <gohdan> BaconAttack_: might want something more light and simple like 'twm'
[00:43] <TadekMocarz> WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NIGGER AND THE BARREL OF SHIT
[00:43] <bastidrazor> !ops | TadekMocarz
[00:43] <lewellyn> bandit5432: in source distributions of sudo (such as on other platforms), it creates a sudoedit wrapper that copies the file to $TEMP, launches an unprivileged editor, then copies the file back with the same permissions
[00:44] <bandit5432> elky, ty!
[00:44] <lewellyn> bandit5432: it was my attempt to help whoever's trying to edit a root-owned file. :)
[00:44] <zerovin> mornin all :)
[00:45] <BaconAttack_> gohdan what is twm?
[00:45] <gohdan> BaconAttack_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/twm
[00:45] <bandit5432> lewellyn, i just sudo and then edit the file i want
[00:45] <lewellyn> bandit5432: that's less secure than running an unprivileged editor :)
[00:46] <BaconAttack_> thanks
[00:46] <GreekFreak> escott, doing gksudo filename asked for a password and showed nothing. And why should I never sudo with gvim?
[00:46] <gohdan> think it comes with a stock install of X
[00:46] <escott> !gksudo | GreekFreak
[00:47] <bastidrazor> GreekFreak: gksudo gvim filename
[00:47] <gohdan> BaconAttack_: ^^ might want to verify on your own though
[00:47] <engineglue1> hey guys. Have you every heard of a server blocking an IP address after you do a tracert?
[00:47] <escott> bastidrazor, thanks was paying more attention to my dinner
[00:47] <GreekFreak> escott, bastidrazor, thanks
[00:47]  * lewellyn is one of those old-school people who believes in "run with least possible privileges" and therefore prefers things like sudoedit over sudo $EDITOR ;)
[00:48] <bandit5432> lewellyn, there is no root user so its not really a big deal i would think
[00:48] <zerovin> visudo
[00:48] <rebe> is there any shortcut to switch tabs in terminal ?
[00:48] <lewellyn> zerovin: that's an alternate name, yes. thanks for confirming the ubuntu name :)
[00:48] <dusktreader> can anyone help me with an install problem on an Acer notebook?
[00:48] <quiescens> sudoedit is unlikely to be any better unless you actually go to the effort of limiting which files can be editted
[00:48] <escott> bandit5432, there is a root user, its just not possible to login interactively from a login prompt
[00:49] <spacetiger> Hi. I have a windows+ubuntu dual boot system, with one partition (Storage) shared. When I try to mount the partition on Ubuntu, I get an error - "ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." This problem has appeared only today.
[00:49] <zerovin> welcome
[00:49] <lewellyn> bandit5432: but your editor still has superuser rights and has things like your $HOME. this can cause lots of "fun" as collateral damage if you go and save new settings in your editor or something
[00:49] <bandit5432> lewellyn, i know i do that all the time locked my self out of x this weekend because .Xauthority was owned by root all good fun
[00:50] <gohdan> rebe: if youre using gnome-terminal it is ctrl+pgup ctrl+pgdn
[00:50] <Jocker> Hi All
[00:50] <lewellyn> bandit5432: all the more reason to try to avoid more privileges than absolutely needed ;)
[00:50] <Jocker> Inees cc Please
[00:50] <bandit5432> lewellyn, if i want really secure i just run windows 8.... joke :P
[00:51] <lewellyn> bandit5432: don't ask for my uname from the box that's connected to my irssi ;)
[00:51] <Jocker> lol
[00:51] <dusktreader> can anyone help with a problem booting to a fresh install on a notebook?
[00:51] <dusktreader> i have a fun "operating system not found" error
[00:51] <GreekFreak> escott, this is the error it gives me if I run 'sudo /root/background_work.cron_jobs' :    /root/background_work.cron_jobs: line 3: /log/cron_log.log: No such file or directory
[00:51] <rebe> gohdan: thanks, I also found out, that alt + *tab number* works
[00:51] <lewellyn> dusktreader: do you have multiple disks?
[00:51] <GreekFreak> ^ It's like it ignored the cd again
[00:52] <dusktreader> yeah
[00:52] <lewellyn> dusktreader: try setting the bios to boot off the other one ;)
[00:52] <dusktreader> i have bios setup to install off of the hdd where i installed ubuntu
[00:52] <escott> GreekFreak, /var/log
[00:52] <dusktreader> and i've tried explicitly selecting it from the f12 menu as well
[00:52] <lewellyn> dusktreader: you're 120% sure that's where your grub is?
[00:52] <dusktreader> yeah
[00:53] <dusktreader> /dev/sda
[00:53] <lewellyn> that's why i said boot off the other, to make sure things went as you expected :)
[00:53] <dusktreader> which is my hdd
[00:53] <dusktreader> with ubuntu
[00:53] <bohemian9485> i'm wondering why the update manager did a kernel update to 3.2.0-24-generic-pae when my kernel is already that version? the update concerns about some cairo-dock plug-ins, does that have anything to do with the kernel update?
[00:53] <lewellyn> grr.
[00:53] <spacetiger> Anyone?
[00:53] <dusktreader> it kept trying to boot from pxe, then I disabled network boot
[00:53] <lewellyn> i have no spare machines i can put the burnt livecd into :/
[00:53] <bandit5432> lewellyn, virtualbox it
[00:54] <gohdan> rebe: awesome. thats much faster
[00:54] <GreekFreak> escott, there's nothing in there. Or are you implying that I should cd into there?
[00:54] <naxil2_> hello
[00:54] <lewellyn> bandit5432: i accidentally clicked to update vmware, and it wants me to reboot first now. stupid junk :/
[00:54] <naxil2_> i need a simple help
[00:54] <GreekFreak> escott, by nothing, I mean nothing about cron
[00:54] <gohdan> !ask | naxil2_
[00:54] <naxil2_> i want disconnect pp0 if the bandwith is less of 10kb/ for 10min (example) what i can do?
[00:56] <nickmarx> Question: I'm trying to create a bootable ubuntu disk to be used for booting on a mac, and then formating the hard drive
[00:56] <bandit5432> reminds self never open .xsession-errors
[00:57] <nickmarx> the usb stick is made correctly I believe but on restart it doesn't get recognized as a bootable option
[00:57] <escott> GreekFreak, there is no /log folder. you want /var/log
[00:57] <bandit5432> nickmarx, are you holding down the C key?
[00:57] <nickmarx> No I've been doing option
[00:57] <naxil2_> is possible program the pp0 to disconnect if the bandwith is less of 10kb/s?
[00:58] <nickmarx> I have my harddrive partitioned and it shows the two sections but not the usb stick
[00:58] <GreekFreak> escott, but I cd'ed into a different location, where there is a log folder
[00:58] <spacetiger> Need help! I get an error - "ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." when I try to mount a shared partition (shared by Windows and Ubuntu on my dual boot system). This problem has appeared only today.
[00:58] <escott> GreekFreak, you specified a full path /log/something. so it uses the full path
[00:59] <GreekFreak> escott, is it not relative?
[00:59] <yakko> can anybody name a good salary rate for senior developer in London?
[00:59] <escott> GreekFreak, it starts with a slash
[00:59] <GreekFreak> escott, thanx
[00:59] <bandit5432> nickmarx, try holding down C
[01:00] <bandit5432> nickmarx, i assume its an intel mac if so see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1533
[01:00] <bandit5432> any one using monitor profiling with 12.04?
[01:00] <nickmarx> bandit5432, ahhhh thanks I'll be that will do it
[01:01] <dusktreader> I installed 12.04 x64 on a new Acer Aspire with an AMD a6. Re organized partition on my main HDD to keep windows.  Selected the HDD as the location for the boot loader.  Installed.  At boot, after posting it just reports Operating System not found.  When I select HDD from the from th f12 boot menu, it works for a minute, and then goes back to the f12 menu.  I've tried reinstalling twice with the same results.  Does anyone have
[01:01] <bandit5432> nickmarx, hope it works
[01:01] <escott> dusktreader, new ?=? efi
[01:02] <dusktreader> escott, what?
[01:03] <escott> dusktreader, is it an uefi system? did it have a efi partition when you were repartitioning
[01:03] <dusktreader> @escott, I don't know
[01:03] <dusktreader> how do I check?
[01:05] <GreekFreak> escott, thank you very much for your help. I owe you the preverbial beer
[01:06] <escott> dusktreader, what does sudo parted -l /dev/sda say?
[01:06] <escott> dusktreader, in particular the "Partition Table: ????" line
[01:06] <dusktreader> one minute....
[01:07] <dusktreader> booting from live cd
[01:07] <dusktreader> what should it say?
[01:07] <escott> dusktreader, if it says "gpt" and windows boots then it is an efi system
[01:07] <dusktreader> oh, crap....got to go... =[
[01:07] <dusktreader> thanks, I'll check that out later!
[01:13] <naxil2_> hello
[01:15] <GreekFreak> escott, why would I get permission denied, if I'm running something as sudo? (I'm still battling that script, but now I'm trying to run script/rails from it)
[01:15] <casey9> what is the paste shortcut in terminal
[01:16] <escott> GreekFreak, what are the permissions of the folder
[01:17] <naxil2_> Greekfreak u know some script for disconnect/shutdown pc > if bandwith < 10kb/sec?
[01:18] <GreekFreak> naxil2_, sorry my man. no. You'll need to find something that can tell you what your bandwidth is at any time
[01:19] <naxil2_> yes i have found bmon
[01:19] <naxil2_> but i can't do the script iam noob
[01:20] <GreekFreak> escott, script folder is theo:theo with 'create & delete/None/None' and the script/rails file is the same
[01:20] <escott> naxil2_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[01:21] <naxil2_> escott and after this? i want do a disconnect or shutdown with if to bandwith
[01:21] <escott> GreekFreak, honestly i would recommend reading the permissions documentation
[01:21] <escott> !permissions | GreekFreak
[01:22] <Prodigal> any suggestions why BT5 is giving me a NAME_REGEX error in BT5 when i adduser?
[01:22] <naxil2_> yes escott i have bmon
[01:23] <invisiblek> having problems with openvpn. i can't get tun to work properly. seems there isn't a tun.ko anywhere...
[01:23] <escott> naxil2_, while /bin/true; do bandwith=`bmon command`; if $( bandwidth -le VALUE ) then shutdown -h now; fi; sleep SOMETHING; done
[01:23] <Fat-Thing> is it safe to completely remove kde stuffs installed on my ubuntu 10.04? i found some that are installed using synaptic package manager
[01:23] <escott> !backtrack | Prodigal
[01:24] <Prodigal> ok thanks
[01:25] <alusion> before I install the amd proprietary drivers, any warnings or known bugs?
[01:25] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[01:26] <escott> alusion, yes
[01:26] <Golfgeo> Got a silly question... NVIDIA proprietary drivers... which one to activate in 12.04... the
[01:27] <alusion> yes, so there are known issues..
[01:27] <Polah> Golfgeo, post-release updates.
[01:27] <alusion> I wanted to test 3d on my linux machine as i heard their newer drivers would support it
[01:27] <escott> alusion, there are known issues either way
[01:27] <Golfgeo> Got a silly question... NVIDIA proprietary drivers... which one to activate in 12.04... the "(version current)" or "post-release updates)(version current-updates)"?
[01:28] <Golfgeo> Polah: the post-release updates version is the newer one, right?
[01:28] <szal> Golfgeo: depends on your gfx card
[01:28] <Golfgeo> since it's not "recommended" i'm hesitant...
[01:28] <alusion> is it even worth having a 6850 in a linux box?
[01:28] <alusion> lol.
[01:29] <L3top> Golfgeo: nvidia-current-updates
[01:29] <Golfgeo> crapper, I hate selecting drivers for vid-cards, had to many negative experiances..
[01:30] <alusion> ^ I feel your pain..
[01:30] <Golfgeo> k, will try the nvidia-current-updates :-)
[01:30] <L3top> Golfgeo: the 295.40 driver has regression issues.
[01:30] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000084/ <-- escott this are the list of my installed apps, i dunno how i got so many wondering how i got it installed in my system but pls tell me which one is safe to remove
[01:30] <Golfgeo> Thanks guy's! :-)
[01:30] <L3top> yw
[01:30] <Golfgeo> L3top: regression issues hmm, Don't like the sound of that haha
[01:31] <Golfgeo> me is off and thanks! :-D
[01:31] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: yesterday, when I thought CCSM and other tweak tools were failing to adjust my Launcher opacity... it was just that the launcher was black over black background, and Unity's launcher has a certain minimum opacity (i.e. maximum transparency) limit that interacted with that to make it appear as if no change was made.
[01:31] <ejo> So, it works :P
[01:32] <bandit5432> nvidia 302.11 seem to be running ok
[01:33] <Draton> Hey guys, quick question: Does anyone have any recommendation for a vnc server?  I've tried the one that ubuntu includes but it doesn't give me the option to tweak some of the more bandwidth-hogging items
[01:37] <noobita69> quit
[01:38] <GG111> where can I download the full DVD of Ubuntu 12.04 , not just the live CD ?
[01:41] <naxil2_> goodnight
[01:41] <randomDude> I'm having alot of problems getting ldap authentication to work with 12.04, previously on 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 i was able to use zentyal-desktop to streamline the process of setting up ldap login on our workstations, however on 12.04 this zentyal-desktop does all the things it did before, no errrors.... but now lightdm login just shows the wallpaper or a black screen.
[01:42] <rebe> why opening new tab in terminal creates those ugly thick edges ?
[01:43] <Nach0z> Because it dislikes everyone
[01:47] <donnie> Does anyone in here use Linux on a Powerpc?
[01:48] <donnie> I have a Power Mac G5 which has Debian installed on it. I cannot install any updates.
[01:48] <cipher__> i need an equalizer (some ability to adjust bass), was wondering if anyone can help
[01:48] <bazhang> donnie, #debian
[01:48] <donnie> Tried that.
[01:48] <donnie> Nobody answered.
[01:48] <bazhang> donnie, it's not supported here, so dont ask
[01:49] <halakar> hey guise - need to make a DVD with Ubuntu - playable in a DVD player...best program?  I have a bunch of quicktime movies I want to slap on there.
[01:49] <bazhang> halakar, devede perhaps, though not heard of using mov before. perhaps convert with ffmpeg or handbrake first
[01:50] <halakar> may i do all of this through a GUI ?
[01:50] <bazhang> halakar, handbrake has a gui
[01:50] <cipher__> i'm installing realtek drivers for alsa atm
[01:50] <halakar> neat.  I come from the land of KDE - there was something called K9Copy or perhaps avidemux ?
[01:50] <donnie> I suppose that's an easy way of saying "I don't know" I will deal with it. Thanks for being SO POLITE.
[01:51] <bandit5432> donnie i have used it whats the questoin you have?
[01:51] <bazhang> donnie, no, this is ubuntu only support, NOT debian. they have a channel for support :   #debian
[01:51] <bazhang> bandit5432, feel free to take this to #debian
[01:52] <cipher__> good idea, i'll ask #debian
[01:52] <bandit5432> bazhang, he didnt ask a question yet maye he wants to switch to ubuntu
[01:52] <spacetiger> Need help! I get an error - "ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." when I try to mount a shared partition (shared by Windows and Ubuntu on my dual boot system).
[01:52] <bazhang> bandit5432, he did. please take it to #debian if you wish to support him
[01:53] <donnie> Well, I'm using Debian so.....
[01:53] <donnie> On a Power Mac G5
[01:53] <bandit5432> sorry donnit i sent you pm
[01:53] <bazhang> !ot | donnie
[01:53] <bandit5432> its not polite to talk about linux here only ubuntu
[01:54] <donnie> I use Ubuntu as well.
[01:54] <bandit5432> :C
[01:55] <cipher__> so i installed realtek audio drivers and atm have no sound
[01:55] <bandit5432> i forgot why i stopped hanging out here i remember now
[01:55] <cipher__> which are the drivers my system uses on windows
[01:56] <cipher__> for example, alsamixer when opened throws this error: 'cannot open mixer: no such device"
[01:57] <halakar> bazhang, I cannot locate a package called Handbrake in the software center.
[01:57] <noahnoah> Question about VNC Servers:   I just installed 12.04, and want to host a VNC server on it for remote connections (Either from my local network, or possibly over SSH.)  What is the "best" vnc server software package?  Suggestions?
[01:57] <szal> !info handbrake
[01:57] <bazhang> !handbrake | halakar there is also a PPA
[01:58] <Etale> Nobody is answering my question in the Windows chatroom, so I figured I'd ask here since my question is about a dual boot system.
[01:58] <Etale> Okay, I was here a few hours ago, but here's the quick version. I just got a Lenovo thinkpad that came with their version of Windows 7. There a Windows partition, a recovery partition, and a system_drv partition (whatever that means). I want to first install the official windows7 (instead of the Lenovo version), and then shrink Windows' partition to 100GB, and create an ext4 partition for Ubuntu, and an NTFS partition for storage (~300GB).
[01:59] <Etale> Would I have to get the recovery partition into a DVD? Or is it okay to start installing the official version without creating a recovery DVD?
[01:59] <bazhang> Etale, boot from livecd, or with gparted livecd, as for windows issues try in ##windows
[02:00] <cipher__> i suppose no-one can help me with my lack of sound?
[02:00] <Etale> In ##windows nobody is answering...
[02:00] <bazhang> Etale, then wait a moment, its been just a couple of minutes since you asked, and this is NOT windows support
[02:00] <Etale> cipher__, what do you see in alsamixer?
[02:00] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, what would be the easiest to share files between two computers in a network? Setting up an FTP server or Samba server?
[02:00] <szal> Etale: the recovery partition would restore the machine to the custom Dell version anyway, so you decide what you do there.. and getting no answer in the right place is no excuse for going off-topic elsewhere
[02:01] <cipher__> Etale, alsamixer cannot open, 'no such device'
[02:01] <OerHeks> Etale, all pre-installed windows pc's have asked me to create a recovery dvd, do that first
[02:01] <Etale> szal, it's about a dual boot system. So I figured it's okay for both.
[02:01] <cipher__> Etale, installed (tried to) realtek hd audio drivers
[02:02] <szal> Etale: other than that, why not pre-partition? way easier than shrinking a non-empty partition
[02:02] <Etale> szal, what do you mean?
[02:03] <szal> Etale: wipe the disk, either all of it or sans the recovery partition, then create a partition layout to your liking & use that to install your OSes on
[02:04] <Etale> By wipe out do you mean format, szal?
[02:04] <szal> Etale: delete & create new
[02:04] <bazhang> Etale, as I said, using the livecd or the gparted live cd from the very first
[02:04] <szal> formatting alone doesn't change the partition layout
[02:04] <OccupyDemonoid> What is the easiest way to share files over a network?
[02:05] <cipher__> can anyone help me with re-achieving sound
[02:05] <Gushings> I'm trying to build a high end computer, and it must run ubuntu.
[02:05] <Etale> bazhang, part of the issue is that I want to reinstall windows to get rid of the Lenovo stuff...
[02:05] <Gushings> How can I figure out if particular components will be compatible?
[02:05] <OccupyDemonoid> cipher__, have you tried Alsa?
[02:05] <szal> !hcl | Gushings
[02:05] <bazhang> Etale, and what I said will accomplish that
[02:05] <Gushings> Thank you.
[02:06] <cipher__> I installed realtek audio drivers for alsa, it apparently did not work, and i have no 'sound devices'
[02:06] <HaPK_PerCar> hey, I have a couple of questions regarding sound. 1) how do I do a recording of my desktop and all that's passing trough my soundcard at the same time? 2) How do I hear what's comming from the Line In?
[02:07] <Etale> You mean a windows livecd?
[02:07] <Etale> (bazhang)
[02:07] <bazhang> Etale, of course no, an ubuntu livecd
[02:08] <Etale> How would an ubuntu livecd help me accomplish a reinstallation of Windows as well? I figured I should reinstall Windows first because otherwise it would nuke the boot.
[02:08] <bazhang> Etale, it has gparted on it, thats how
[02:09] <Gushings> Hm
[02:09] <Etale> bazhang, walk me through it. I install Ubuntu, use gparted to partition, and then install the official version of Windows? Wouldn't that destroy the boot?
[02:10] <bazhang> Etale, no. you partition first using gparted, install windows, then finally install Ubuntu.
[02:10] <Etale> Oh, gotcha.
[02:10] <Etale> And I use the partitioning from the gparted which I will get from the Ubuntu livecd.
[02:11] <bazhang> Etale, or from a gparted livecd
[02:11] <opakavic> guys i recently upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, and now after restart system hangs up
[02:11] <randomDude> lvm home recipe on a machine with only 2gb of ram always sets the machine up to fail (it will freeze)
[02:11] <Etale> Right!
[02:11] <opakavic> ?
[02:11] <opakavic> i need my system back with datas
[02:12] <bazhang> opakavic, install from backups
[02:12] <opakavic> bazhang: if install a new one on the same place, my data wouldn't lost right?
[02:13] <opakavic> i mean the new one is 12.04
[02:13] <bazhang> opakavic, sure it would. did you create a separate home partition?
[02:13] <opakavic> bazhang: no :(
[02:13] <opakavic> home has so many wanted files :(
[02:13] <opakavic> any help , please do
[02:15] <opakavic> bazhang: there is no separate home partition
[02:17] <bazhang> opakavic, in future it would be a good idea to have one. for now, just install all the backups of the important data you had
[02:17] <robertzaccour> What can I use in Ubuntu to make 3D video graphics? Preferably something easy to learn.
[02:18] <opakavic> bazhang: see the worst part is, i did a blind upgrade with a single backup !
[02:18] <peterl> test
[02:18] <opakavic> bazhang: see the worst part is, i did a blind upgrade without a single backup !
[02:18] <bazhang> opakavic, well then learn to backup important data; if you do not back it up, that can happen
[02:19] <opakavic> yes!
[02:19] <opakavic> what if i now do a new installation on the same place !, my home folder ?
[02:20] <Star2012> <trophies> who is in ##Hardware  needs a ban !
[02:20] <lng> hi! how to list current video driver?
[02:22] <Star2012> done !
[02:22] <Smashcat> Hi - can anyone tell me how to get 12.04 to boot in text mode only? Seems to ignore the inittab
[02:22] <peterl> opakavic: if you did an upgrade, then even if the os is corrupt, your files are still there, just put the hard drive into another machine
[02:23] <peterl> or did i miss an important part of this conversation?
[02:23] <robertzaccour> What can I use in Ubuntu to make 3D video graphics? Preferably something easy to learn.
[02:24] <bazhang> !nox | Smashcat
[02:24] <peterl> robertzaccour: Blender
[02:24] <Smashcat> bazhang: thanks
[02:24] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/ZKXW2TQC how do i fix this?
[02:25] <robertzaccour> peterl, I'm looking for something easy to use. Took 1 look at blender and got intimidated tbh haha
[02:26] <opakavic> bazhang, are you there
[02:26] <Smashcat> bazhang: That will only start in text mode for that boot though right? I wish to start in text mode automatically every time. I don't need X at all on this
[02:26] <Playtime> Hey guys, I hope this is the place to ask, but I can't install Ububtu, using Wubi, when expanding files, it spews fourth an error. Upon installing via  burnt ISO it simply locks up during installation.  What might be possible fixes?
[02:26] <bazhang> Smashcat, you wish to never have an xserver?
[02:26] <Smashcat> bazhang: yes
[02:27] <peterl> robertzaccour: i've never personally found an easy way to do 3d video, or at least to do it well, any easier package i have seen is highly restrictive, i understand your reservations though
[02:28] <Smashcat> bazhang: This machine is going to run headless, so there's no point in running X at boot
[02:28] <randomDude> the lvm expert_recipie section of this page doesn't work : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/preseed-contents.html
[02:28] <randomDude> using it results in a red screen during debian-installer preseed
[02:28] <ubuntu_lombok> help me..!! compiz can't run in my ubuntu 12.04
[02:29] <robertzaccour> peterl, whats the name of the easier one you're thinking of?
[02:29] <bobby> Hey I just installed 12.04 lts and I still have 11.10 installed but there is data in 11.10  that i want to bring into 12.04  What is an easy way to do this? My data is in pictures in documents and a few other random places
[02:30] <Smashcat> bazhang: I'm going to modify grub - hopefully that'll do it!... rebooting...
[02:31] <Playtime> Anyone?
[02:32] <Donnie_Darko21> hello can anyone tell me software for converting doc to odt
[02:32] <szal> Donnie_Darko21: LibreOffice?
[02:32] <peterl> robertzaccour: come to think of it, they were windows platform anyway, though from a quick search around, some people suggest moonlight 3d, i can't vouch for it myself, but i can suggest you have a look, from what i've skipped through it seems to be a less bewildering version of blender
[02:33] <grant_> exit
[02:33] <szal> Playtime: don't use Wubi, free some space on your HDD & do a real install
[02:33] <Playtime> It locks up when installing via ISO
[02:34] <robertzaccour> thanks
[02:34] <robertzaccour> is moonlight 3d in the repos?
[02:34] <Sarazar> Playtime: Try VirtualBox and test it in a Virtual Instance.
[02:34] <Donnie_Darko21> damn i delete libre and istall open because of lack power ram etc  i need simple converter szal
[02:35] <Jorsch> hey, need a little help here.....trying to do an apt-get update and it is stuck on updating likewise-open: /usr/sbin/lwsmd --start-as-daemon returned 1....
[02:35] <Playtime> Trying it now.
[02:36] <lng> how to list current video driver?
[02:36] <szal> Playtime: (1) make sure you got no download errors by verifying checksums; (2) make sure you got no burning errors by verifying after burning; (3) make sure the disk is not compromised in any way by running the self-test options after booting from the CD ("Check for errors" or something to that sense)
[02:37] <zykotick9> lng: if you have an idea what to look for you could try xorg log files or sure-fire "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and "Kernel driver in use:" line
[02:37] <lng> zykotick9: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Caicos [Radeon HD 6450]
[02:37] <Donnie_Darko21> libreoffice is just better in look openoffice is more productive i used last time online converter and imports 100 percent before that i used to open with openoffice writer but dont loads 100 percent it loads 99 the jpg or the pic was not loaded
[02:38] <zykotick9> lng: ati=i'm out.  good luck.
[02:38] <lng> zykotick9: k tnx
[02:39] <Donnie_Darko21> anyone know software : converter doc to odt
[02:39] <Donnie_Darko21> cant find
[02:43] <zykotick9> Donnie_Darko21: that's not an easy conversion.  especially if docx.  libreoffice would be my suggestion
[02:44] <Frankye1> hey guys i got this hacker is really ridicolous, i think it is a policeman or something like that, this retard put something into my hardware and he wanna stop me to learn computers and do friends on internet couse i cant remove it... this guy is totally retard and i cant remove him from my computer anyone want help me?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> Donnie_Darko21: Why can't you use Libre Office?
[02:46] <Frankye1> he told me he want destroy me, and he is able to stop my internet working etc couse he can trace me via this thing into hardware, a retard who got a very dangerous tool and he use this shit to have power, a fukin retard
[02:46] <bazhang> Frankye1, ##hardware
[02:46] <bazhang> Frankye1, not an ubuntu issue, and stop cursing
[02:46] <Donnie_Darko21> i get mad becuase i imported some easy files and libre wrriter get crush and i installed openoffice
[02:47] <Dios|> When you dual boot Ubuntu, are you supposed to be able to automatically access files from Windows?
[02:48] <krababbel> Dios|: I think, it puts the other partitions under /media, yes
[02:48] <zykotick9> Dios|: Windows->Ubuntu or Ubuntu->Windows?  ubuntu should be able to mount your windows partitions, but windows can't mount ubuntu's partitions
[02:49] <Dios|> Uhhh, not entirely sure what you mean, zykotick9
[02:49] <Dios|> But
[02:49] <Dios|> I had Windows installed first
[02:49] <Dios|> Then Ubuntu
[02:49] <Dios|> If that's what you mean
[02:49] <zykotick9> Dios|: ;) i'm not sure what you mean
[02:50] <Dios|> Basically
[02:50] <Dios|> Few weeks ago
[02:50] <Dios|> I installed Ubuntu
[02:50] <Dios|> Using a windows installer
[02:50] <bazhang> Dios|, stop with th e enter key
[02:50] <zykotick9> !enter | Dios|
[02:50] <Dios|> Called Wubi I think
[02:50] <Dios|> kk
[02:50] <zykotick9> Wubi
[02:51] <Nk26> Hello is there anyway to rollback an update I did on a package? or how can i force an install if i redownloaded the correct .deb
[02:51] <Dios|> So I used Wubi I guess to dual boot Ubuntu. I am completely new to Ubuntu, so I am bad at navigating it and I haven't used it in a long time. I couldn't access any music, pictures, documents, etc. Is that normal?
[02:52] <Nk26> I'm getting a "is not co-installable with" error when i try and use dpkg
[02:52] <Donnie_Darko21> maybe fresh libreoffice install will be more better
[02:52] <table9> Everything else being equal, would it be worth $120 to exchange a laptop with 15.6" 720p (1366 x 768) screen and a 2nd gen Intel Core i5-2450M (2.50GHz 3MB L3 Cache - 2 Cores plus Hyperthreading) processor  for one with 15.6" 1080p (1920 x 1080) screen and a 3rd gen Intel Core i7-3610QM (2.30GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading) processor? Both systems are going to run Ubuntu.
[02:53] <zykotick9> Nk26: FYI in any Deb based system, downgrading is an unsupported (DO AT YOUR OWN RISK) sorta thing.  the scripts that update config and other files are all one way... just saying "be careful"
[02:53] <bazhang> table9, ##hardware , or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <table9> Thanks.
[02:53] <Nk26> I just updated to a borked verion of mediainfo and im trying to get the non borked version lol
[02:53] <bazhang> Dios|, wubi is not a true dual boot
[02:53] <bazhang> Nk26, installed from where.
[02:54] <Dios|> Yeah, I tried to do it the "real" way, but it was giving me weird problems
[02:54] <Nk26> I forgot to remove the repo, so it updated from the repo. I just redownloaded the old version
[02:54] <bazhang> Nk26, what repo, from where
[02:55] <Nk26> bazhang ppa:shiki/mediainfo
[02:55] <bazhang> Nk26, contact the PPA maintainer
[02:56] <bazhang> Nk26, in the mean time use ppa-purge to get rid of that ppa
[02:56] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | Nk26
[02:57] <Nk26> ok thanks
[02:59] <c_smith> does anyone here know the environment variable to use Wine without ALSA?
[02:59] <c_smith> *without Pulse, my bad
[02:59] <bazhang> c_smith, try in #winehq
[02:59] <c_smith> bazhang, already there, the place is dead. :(
[03:01] <naryfa> hi
[03:02] <vicatcu> wilee-nilee: are you around?
[03:02] <mombo00> how could I see the copy speed (MB/s) for a transfert using cp?
[03:03] <robertzaccour> I'm trying to figure how to run an iso in virtualbox without having to burn it to a disc
[03:03] <vicatcu> my ubuntu installation is in a partial upgrade (from 11.10 to 12.04), can anyone help me repair it?
[03:03] <robertzaccour> vicatcu, update and upgrade? that or install fresh
[03:05] <vicatcu> robertzaccour: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000164/
[03:06] <naryfa> weird
[03:06] <Playtime> Okay, I just burnt another ISO onto my disc and tried once again.
[03:06] <zykotick9> mombo00: you could install iotop for a cli view of your drive i/o (requires sudo to run).  i use the very old-school gkrellm for an xorg meter with all my drives' throughputs.
[03:06] <naryfa> vicatcu: did you try via synaptic?
[03:06] <vicatcu> naryfa: I guess I don't know how to do that
[03:07] <Playtime> Got into the trial/install options.  Selected trial, it ran perfectly, hit install, chose inside windows 7, it said remove installation media and hit enter.  Doing so just booted up windows and ran wubi, wubi will always give me an error durnig expanding.
[03:08] <vicatcu> naryfa: what is synaptic?
[03:08] <mombo00> zykotick9: k, I was more looking at a simple cli tool like time but for speed
[03:08] <Playtime> It's a trackpad driver, if I'm not mistaken.
[03:08] <zykotick9> mombo00: i'm not aware of any.  i'd be interested though ;)
[03:09] <naryfa> vicatcu: it's a very good package manager
[03:09] <naryfa> vicatcu: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:09]  * zykotick9 thinks apt-get and apt-cache makes a really great package manager ;)
[03:10] <vicatcu> naryfa: ok installing
[03:10] <Playtime> This is going to be my 19th time getting this same error now, and it's really starting to piss me off.
[03:11] <naryfa> zykotick9: I'm glad it works for you
[03:11] <zykotick9> naryfa: works for you too ;) you installed synaptic with it
[03:11] <vicatcu> naryfa: ok it's installed and i just did a reload...
[03:11] <jiltdil> how to  change the directory using inode value ?
[03:12] <vicatcu> naryfa: so how does this make things better :)
[03:12] <zykotick9> jiltdil: i don't think that makes much sense.  directories are stored in inodes (or some other filesystem metadata)
[03:12] <naryfa> vicatcu: you should have a filter on the left saying "upgradable" or something like that
[03:12] <zykotick9> jiltdil: inodes for files i could see
[03:13] <vicatcu> naryfa: yup found it
[03:13] <mombo00> zykotick9: seems like pv -p might work, haven't understood a way to connect it to cp tho
[03:13] <naryfa> vicatcu: also see if you have a filter called "broken" or something like that, I'm not on Ubuntu so I don't remember exactly the names
[03:13] <uw> hi!
[03:14] <uw> data throughput question:
[03:14] <uw> ugh from computer to computer, I can only get about 40MB/s for a file transfer using SCP.  can someone verify this is reasonable?  iperf tops out at 110-115MB/s.  I have people keep telling me it's all encryption overhead.
[03:14] <robertzaccour> does VirtualBox use the allocated RAM when its not running?
[03:14] <zykotick9> mombo00: is pv a command?
[03:14] <vicatcu> naryfa: nothing shows up under broken
[03:14] <uw> robertzaccour, i believe it does reserve it yes
[03:14] <naryfa> vicatcu: try to mark all upgradable and see if it will take them
[03:14] <uw> meaning you cant use it while it is allocated to a running guest OS
[03:15] <robertzaccour> uw, you mean that I'm not running full system specs when VB is closed?
[03:15] <uw> if the vms are ON, you are not running full system spec
[03:15] <mombo00> zykotick9: yea I'm still trying to figure out the manual
[03:15] <uw> if the VMs are off, you should have all of the RAM installed available to the host system
[03:15] <robertzaccour> uw, what about after its turned off?
[03:16] <vicatcu> naryfa: Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade.... libjpeg62-dev:
[03:16] <robertzaccour> uw, oh ok thanks. Just wanted to make sure I could have it all when VB is closed
[03:16] <uw> check #vbox for more accurate info
[03:16] <robertzaccour> thanks
[03:16] <Playtime> Fuck it, I give up.  I can't get Ubuntu.
[03:16] <naryfa> vicatcu: is that the exact line? or did you truncate it?
[03:16] <uw> robertzaccour, no prob
[03:16] <zykotick9> mombo00: ahhh "pv - Shell pipeline element to meter data passing through" interesting.
[03:16] <krababbel> robertzaccour: I've never seen the vbox process use all the memory it can have
[03:16] <naryfa> Playtime: don't give up, ever
[03:17] <uw> Playtime, its not for everybody
[03:17] <vicatcu> naryfa, actually i just clicked the Mark All Upgrades button just now and I got a subset of entries highlighted, so just click Apply?
[03:17] <Playtime> I've seen the same error 20 times in a row now, regardless of what is done.  Assistance is unheard of.  I'm done.
[03:17] <naryfa> vicatcu: try
[03:18] <naryfa> Playtime: what error is that
[03:18] <uw> Playtime, you mean "free Assistance" is unheard of
[03:18] <sary> Playtime: what stopping you to make a native installation for a dual boot system!
[03:18] <vicatcu> naryfa: ok it's going... exciting...
[03:18]  * vicatcu is easily amused
[03:18] <uw> people have lives too you know.  sorry people cant drop everything to fix your problem.
[03:18] <Playtime> http://puu.sh/w4HQ
[03:19] <Guest99413> how to  change the directory using inode value ?
[03:19] <naryfa> uw: don't be so hard
[03:19] <Playtime> It's not only here, I've been many places. This is my fourth month of trying this.
[03:19] <Brustofski> trying to use testdisk.. all i can find is how to recover lost partition table... need to recover file... formated the wrong drive
[03:19] <sary> Wubi is a truoblesome when it comes to installation , update/upgrade.
[03:19] <naryfa> Playtime: do you only try wubi installer?
[03:19] <uw> Playtime, is that a windows window there?
[03:19] <uw> what are you trying to do?
[03:19] <naryfa> Playtime: I would highly recommend putting the ISO on a USB stick,
[03:19] <zykotick9> Brustofski: for files use photorec (it's part of testdisk) - it does more then photos ;)
[03:19] <gbc> Wubi??
[03:19] <vicatcu> sary: why does one choose Wubi over dual boot
[03:20] <wifioregon> Hi. On 10.04 what is the best way to add music to an IPOD touch?  I tried dragging and dropping music with rhythymbox but its not working. :-(
[03:20] <Playtime> I burnt the ISO onto a disc
[03:20] <Playtime> Boot from CD drive
[03:20] <Playtime> Install from there
[03:20] <Playtime> It then boots up windows
[03:20] <Playtime> and runs Wubi
[03:20] <gbc>  I had better luck with wubi than with a regular install.
[03:20] <bazhang> Playtime, stop with the enter key
[03:20] <sary> vicatcu: i don't know ,thats way i was asking Playtime
[03:20] <naryfa> Playtime: you have to run your computer from the CD itself
[03:20] <Brustofski> zykotick9, do i gota install it.. or just put in a command
[03:20] <Smashcat> Is there something I need to install to allow Ubuntu 12.04 to see a 3TB disk?
[03:20] <Playtime> I did.
[03:21] <zykotick9> Brustofski: if you have testdisk it's probably there
[03:21] <sary> gbc: then look out for the truoblesome when updaing/upgrading your ubuntu box.
[03:21] <naryfa> Playtime: if you did, it would've booted to LIVE Ubuntu image, not Windows
[03:21] <gbc>  but somehow I hosed it all up in the booting functions now I have a 20GB "disk" in the windows Dir I cant get into.
[03:21] <uw> Playtime, do you have grub installed?  what is your disk partition set up like?
[03:21] <Smashcat> (disk was working fine in 11.04, but in 12.04 it can't access it.
[03:21] <gbc> Anybody know how to deal with that ?
[03:21] <Dios|> How do you delete a Wubi dual boot?
[03:21] <naryfa> vicatcu: how did it go?
[03:22] <Logan_> Dios|: Uninstall Ubuntu in Windows.
[03:22] <Playtime> uw: http://puu.sh/w5jX
[03:22] <vicatcu> naryfa, it's still going :)
[03:22] <gbc> no kidding!!
[03:22] <lewellyn> is the "alternate" cd the same as the "text" cd?
[03:22] <vicatcu> naryfa: currently Installing and removing software
[03:22] <zykotick9> lewellyn: yes
[03:22] <Dios|> Is it just like uninstalling a normal program from Control Panel?
[03:22] <jiltdil> how to  change the directory using inode value ?
[03:22] <lewellyn> ok. that's not immediately clear on the download page :/
[03:22]  * lewellyn grabs it in hopes that it will load the kernel :(
[03:23] <gbc> my 100GB regular ubunto 11.04 install is hosed up now too. cannot upgrade or update at all.
[03:23] <naryfa> Playtime: I would do this, if one of these drives is actually an entire drive, put a Linux on it.
[03:23] <zykotick9> !alternate | lewellyn
[03:23] <gbc> says it has a list hosed up in var somewhere.
[03:23] <vicatcu> narfya: ok it crashed: "Changes applied. Not all changes and updates succeeded. For further details of the failure please expand the 'Details panel below.
[03:23] <lewellyn> zykotick9: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso ;)
[03:23] <naryfa> vicatcu: expand it and give me the results
[03:24] <gbc> used the same install CD for both installs.
[03:24] <vicatcu> naryfa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000176/
[03:24] <wifioregon> How do you sync an iphone/ipod with ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04?
[03:24] <wifioregon> Cuz banshee and rhythymbox are giving me issues with my iphone
[03:24] <sary> Playtime: is there anything interesting in the log file
[03:25] <Brustofski> zykotick9, Thanks
[03:25] <Smashcat> Oh crap, seems that 12.04 can't see large disks properly. Have to reinstall 11.04. doh!
[03:25] <zykotick9> Brustofski: glad to help
[03:25] <jiltdil> Any one have my question answer?
[03:26] <sary> jiltdil: please ask again :)
[03:26] <ZeloZelos> jiltdil, please repeat the question
[03:26] <jiltdil> how to  change the directory using inode value ?
[03:26] <sary> Playtime: so have you tried the naive installation before ..
[03:26] <uw> Playtime, D: yikes what kind of set up do you have going there?  Are all those drives?
[03:26] <sary> *native.
[03:27] <Playtime> Two are drives, the rest are split from C:
[03:27] <Brustofski> zykotick9, was in mint 13 RC went to to ubuntu 12.04 on usb stick.. made a misteak and formated my usb drive!!
[03:27] <Playtime> Yes, I have, sary
[03:27] <sary> Playtime: nice , how was the experiance ..
[03:27] <eduardo1981> Hi there, I need some help in an specific topic, I'm using ubuntu 9.10 and I'm quite comfortable everything was stable on my P4 but, not I can't get updates or install anything else in my distro. There is a way to solve this issue...
[03:27] <eduardo1981> ?
[03:27] <zykotick9> Brustofski: photorec saved me once ;)  i was sure happy it existed
[03:28] <Playtime> A whole lot of nothing.
[03:28] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | eduardo1981
[03:28] <sary> eduardo1981: P4 !
[03:28] <uw> Playtime: do you remember how you configured grub?  also, how are these partitions managed?  you may be better off live booting and installing that way
[03:28] <szal> eduardo1981: yes, the solution is upgrading to a still-supported version
[03:29] <naryfa> vicatcu: damn, weird
[03:29] <sary> eduardo1981: do exactl what bazhang point you to .
[03:29] <bazhang> eduardo1981, upgrade to a supported version see the link above
[03:29] <eduardo1981> thanks @ubottu, yes @sary I'm using a Pentium 4 at home
[03:29] <bazhang> eduardo1981, ubottu is a bot
[03:29] <sary> eduardo1981: ah , gotchya
[03:29] <vicatcu> naryfa: hm... right... :)
[03:30] <Playtime> I do not, it's been a long time since I touched it.  As for my drives there, I shrunk C: and made a new partitions from that I shrink/expand them as I need, Z: is another physical drive.
[03:31] <Brustofski> zykotick9, Looks like its doing pretty good so far... i see 3 folders with alot in it... drive had a lot of junk on it... Thats easy to get back... But it had all my desktop backgrounds that took alot of time geting themes.. video's from youtube downloader and from minitube... and 3 gig worth of photo edits
[03:31] <eduardo1981> @szal - Question but can I use a P4 2.66 mghz with newer versions
[03:31] <eduardo1981> ?
[03:31] <eduardo1981> I just have 512 MB
[03:31] <zykotick9> Brustofski: i hope you aren't expecting filenames (cause you probably won't get any)
[03:32] <eduardo1981> I've to say that 9.10 works fast in this old machine
[03:32] <bazhang> eduardo1981, probably Lubuntu is better for you
[03:32] <bazhang> !lubuntu | eduardo1981
[03:32] <sary> Playtime: what you mean ' a whole lot of nothing ' , what i meant is did get into any sort of truoble.
[03:32] <krababbel> eduardo1981: gnome alone wants to use about 500MB RAM often
[03:33] <bazhang> eduardo1981, so upgrade to a supported version, add lubuntu-desktop package, then choose lxde from the login window
[03:33] <Playtime> It just simply does nothing.
[03:33] <Brustofski> zykotick9, not worried about that... as long as i can tell my saved mozila folder...
[03:33] <Playtime> "Installing..." and the window is blank and it freezes.
[03:33] <sary> Playtime: you mean the live-cd while trying a native installation .!
[03:33] <zykotick9> Brustofski: ummm, well - if i remember correctly, you just get a list of files with the selected extensions...
[03:34] <Brustofski> zykotick9, not even putting them in there folders...
[03:34] <eduardo1981> @bazhang - Can I convert an ubuntu in lubuntu ?
[03:34] <zykotick9> Brustofski: i doubt it - filenames and folders are gone, only the raw files on the disk are left
[03:34] <bazhang> eduardo1981, yes.
[03:34] <bazhang> !purelxde | eduardo1981
[03:34] <Playtime> Mmm.. I'm no longer sure I follow you, sary. Sorry.
[03:34] <Brustofski> i guess i lost all my saved bookmarks and passwords
[03:35] <uw> Playtime, when you put the cd in and start the system, it should look completely different, not boot up into windows
[03:35] <sary> Playtime: are you able to install ubuntu from the live-cd .
[03:36] <uw> check your BIOS or EFI to make sure that cdrom is first on the boot list
[03:36] <eduardo1981> Mm... I see that in the page says: "Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise). If you're using 11.10 go here. If you're using 11.04, go here. " And I'm still with ubuntu 9.10
[03:36] <naryfa> vicatcu: I don't know where to point now
[03:37] <Playtime> What happens is, it brings me to trial or install, clicking trial does exactly that, clicking install (depending on from there or in-trial) will either ask me to remove disc and hit enter (it then boots windows and runs wubi) or it opens an window marked "Installing..." that is completely blank and frozen, while the rest of the UI continues to operate.
[03:37] <bazhang> eduardo1981, so upgrade to a supported version is the First STep
[03:37] <bazhang> eduardo1981, from the eolupgrades Link I sent you at the very start
[03:38] <vicatcu> naryfa: running it again...
[03:38] <naryfa> vicatcu: try to google for the error
[03:38] <naryfa> vicatcu: I don't know why most of it is xorg related
[03:39] <naryfa> vicatcu: most of these errors have dependency problems
[03:39] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades    <------- eduardo1981
[03:39] <naryfa> vicatcu: xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion depends on xorg-video-abi-11; however:   Package xorg-video-abi-11 is not installed.
[03:39] <eduardo1981> Ok, I'm checking documentation of EOL bazhang, thanks
[03:40] <naryfa> vicatcu: you have an ati graphics card?
[03:40] <vicatcu> yea
[03:40] <vicatcu> for sure
[03:41] <vicatcu> ati mobility radeon hd5870
[03:41] <naryfa> vicatcu: download their driver from the website, what I understand is that Ubuntu repos have old packages
[03:42] <naryfa> vicatcu: xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion depends on xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901); however:   Version of xserver-xorg-core on system is 2:1.10.4-1ubuntu4.2.
[03:42] <vicatcu> ok i'll see what i can fined
[03:42] <vicatcu> find
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> naryfa,  what the repos have is the modified drivers to follow updates, which the ones from the site wont
[03:43] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: I see, but then the ones in repos prevent him from updates, and apt has errors, if you know better, please help
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> vicatcu, I looked at it earlier there were 405 held upgrades
[03:44] <sary> Playtime: if you insist on installing Ubuntu from Windows through Wubi .. then follow steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, I looked at it earlier there were 405 held upgrades
[03:45] <sary> Playtime: i would look in the log file for any kind of errors.
[03:45] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: and what do you think?
[03:46] <sary> Playtime: just to show you how trouble is Wubi and you're not alone with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929278 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1802427
[03:46] <Playtime> I'm still digging through that log, it's extremely long.
[03:46] <eduardo1981> bazhang, isn't the same update directly from the automatic updater from 9.10 to 10.03 LTS ?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, I have not been following, what I see though with advise on drivers is that the only time to use the drivers from the site is when nothing else will run, not sure if that is the case here. Or if a user is savvy enough to run this way
[03:46] <Playtime> As for the guides, not helpful, since they have no information to where my error is.  I'll take a look at those forums links though
[03:47] <bazhang> eduardo1981, did you read the links carefully?
[03:47] <sary> Playtime: alright , you can post the log file to paste.ubuntu.com if you want some assistance .
[03:47] <Donnie_Darko21> and good news for libreoffice now import was done and 100 percent better then openoffice
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, I waqs just questioning the broad generalized statement of drivers ages in the repos, there is a reason they are older they are modified to run in the release that can run them.
[03:48] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: I have no other option then, what I see in errors is that apt is crying about dependencies. Dependencies in repos are apparently old. Unless he's got testing repos enabled and some packages were upgraded and some not.
[03:48] <eduardo1981> bazhang, I'm on it, I'm just asking
[03:48] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: +1 totally agree ;)
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, you would know the truth. :)
[03:49] <Donnie_Darko21> LibreOffice requires a recent version of Java Runtime Environment (JRE) for full functionality so i installed perfect and now libre works amazing
[03:49] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: out of repo drivers is so rarely needed
[03:49] <sary> Playtime: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1955991
[03:49] <vicatcu> hi wilee-nilee
[03:49] <vicatcu> wilee-nilee: you see the synaptic output I posted?
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> vicatcu, I wish I had more expertise in drivers, I just don't.
[03:49] <vicatcu> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000176/
[03:51] <sary> Playtime: what a truoble , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871823 .. if i were you , i'd backup my data and go for a native installation.
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> vicatcu, not much I can do with that without a context, and even then I doubt I would know.
[03:51] <vicatcu> wilee-nilee: ya i understand
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> looks like a wall of text it has been a long day. vicatcu ;)
[03:52] <vicatcu> lol no worries
[03:53] <asahi> when I run top, I can see that there are 6 ruby processes. However, when I run ps auxw | grep ruby, only one shows up. why is that?
[03:53] <Playtime> sary, one of your links proved helpful! I've got a good chunk of reading to do now.
[03:54] <zykotick9> asahi: top or htop?
[03:54] <asahi> zykotick9: top
[03:54] <jrib> asahi: probably threads
[03:54] <zykotick9> asahi: ok, checking if you where seeing threads (didn't think top showed those by default, and i know htop does)
[03:55] <sary> Playtime: nice , good luck. :)
[03:55] <asahi> ps -A also shows 6 ruby processes
[03:56] <number9> Since upgrading to Precise the plus and underscore no longer work.  The keys work but to access those symbols I have to press shift and nothing happens.  I have been trying to find a solution but have found nothing online.  Any thoughts?
[03:56] <sary> Playtime: similar to the error you get  ..   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1796547.html
[03:57] <freezway> so banshee doesnt actually edit music metadata of the actual the files, how do I force it to do this?
[03:59] <vicatcu> naryfa: re-running synaptic seemed to succeed the second time
[03:59] <naryfa> vicatcu: did you install the new driver?
[03:59] <sary> Playtime: https://answers.launchpad.net/wubi/+question/128647
[03:59] <naryfa> vicatcu: or what?
[03:59] <lewellyn> gah. the "alternative" disc also never gets to the point of loading the kernel after selecting to install from the boot menu. :/
[03:59] <vicatcu> no i literally just tried "Mark All Upgrades" again
[04:00] <vicatcu> and it worked this time
[04:00] <naryfa> good then
[04:00] <vicatcu> naryfa: i guess how do i know it really worked?
[04:00] <webnet> anyone know how i can boot a ubuntu install directly into the gui of an application without a DE?
[04:00] <naryfa> naryfa: I'm happy
[04:00]  * lewellyn is really surprised to be having such issues on an intel-branded motherboard, especially when at least 3 other OSes install fine.
[04:00] <naryfa> vicatcu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:00] <vicatcu> narfy: restart and see if ubuntu boots :)
[04:00] <naryfa> vicatcu: lol, try
[04:01] <eduardo1981> bazhang - About the requirements... in the file /etc/apt/sources.list - I don't understand exactly the orders.. should I have only the mentioned sources lists or I should append those lists to my file ?
[04:01] <vicatcu> narfya: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[04:01] <vicatcu> narfya: the following packages have been kept back: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:01] <vicatcu> narfya: the following packages have been kept back: gnome-sudoku gnomine unity-scope-musicstores
[04:02] <naryfa> vicatcu: you can probably force the upgrade in synaptic upgradable filter
[04:02] <naryfa> vicatcu: if you really want to
[04:02] <sary> lewellyn: what seems to be the issue , could you state it in a nutshell please :)
[04:03]  * webnet is ready to pull hair out... UGHGHG. lol
[04:03] <lewellyn> sary: the install cd never loads the kernel.
[04:03] <bp0> for some reason unity starts in the "GNOME classic" session. how do I stop that?
[04:03] <lewellyn> sary: if i hit "Install Ubuntu
[04:03] <lewellyn> grr
[04:03] <webnet> anyone know what i can search google for. my searches have revealed nothing to me so perhaps im searching the wrong terms?
[04:04] <lewellyn> sary: if i hit "Install Ubuntu" once the drive's spun down, it doesn't spin back up. and it's across multiple drives and 2 different install discs.
[04:04] <vicatcu> naryfa: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:04] <naryfa> vicatcu: I guess it's ok then
[04:04] <webnet> lewellyn, i had that issue with my server. try the alternate install cd. worked for me
[04:04] <vicatcu> naryfa: nice... thanks for the guidance!
[04:05] <vicatcu> naryfa: wish me luck, i'm restarting
[04:05] <lewellyn> webnet: just used the alternate cd with multiple drives, too
[04:05] <naryfa> vicatcu: I didn't do much, but no problem, I'm glad something worked
[04:05] <naryfa> vicatcu: go ahead
[04:05] <lewellyn> and i don't have a pxe-capable nic lying about, else i'd try pxe too.
[04:05] <webnet> lewellyn, hmmm. trust me i feel your pain. believe it or not pxe didnt work for me at all
[04:06] <webnet> lewellyn, i have 4 of the same model of server using the same processor sand just using the same usb disc drive for install
[04:06] <sary> lewellyn: did you md5 test the iso before burnning to the CD media , also its better to burn with slow speed .
[04:06] <lewellyn> sary: yes. and i burnt at the same speed as this media likes for every other os install disc (18x)
[04:06] <webnet> 3 took fine 4th wouldnt work on the same cd i used for the other 3 alternate worked
[04:07] <lewellyn> the same media also works in the same drives in different machines
[04:07] <webnet> lewellyn, sounds like the same issue i had
[04:07] <lewellyn> i'm starting to think it's something specific to the Intel D865PERL motherboard and ubuntu.
[04:07] <HorizonXP> I just wanted to come in here and say, you guys suck for not including Qt 4.8 in 12.04 LTS
[04:07] <sary> Yeah , usb installation medai is much better , it will aslo save you from wasting CD's.
[04:07] <HorizonXP> that is all.
[04:07] <AndChat|712361> .
[04:07] <webnet> HorizonXP, you realize we didnt write ubuntu right?
[04:08] <lewellyn> what's really annoying is that windows, illumos, and freebsd all install fine.
[04:08] <lewellyn> webnet: he's gone
[04:08] <webnet> i see that
[04:08] <webnet> lewellyn, i hate when people do that
[04:08] <webnet> or when its like username: i have a question and the *username has quit
[04:09] <sary> lewellyn: can you reach the GRUB menu at all.
[04:09] <armence> Hey all. Is there a command-line equivalent of the startup disk creator?
[04:09] <lewellyn> sary: yes. and kernel parameters are pointless if the kernel never gets decompressed at all ;)
[04:09] <sary> armence: dd
[04:09] <lewellyn> and yes, i've disabled splash and quiet
[04:09] <zykotick9> armence: if it's a 12.04 iso just use cat
[04:09] <webnet> armence, use cat
[04:09] <lewellyn> sary: actually, it's the cd, so that's probably actually syslinux?
[04:09] <webnet> damn zykotick9 you beat me
[04:10] <webnet> lol
[04:10] <armence> all, thanks
[04:10] <webnet> np
[04:10] <webnet> so let me ask this all how do i boot into the gui of a program without a DE?
[04:11] <sary> lewellyn: am not sure wha you mean abbout syslinux ..
[04:11] <webnet> like on embedded devices
[04:11] <thewazir> sometime my ubuntu 12.04 sound behave weird, sound wouldn't come proper and I have to restart then
[04:11] <lewellyn> sary: the boot cd uses syslinux, not grub, correct?
[04:11] <zykotick9> webnet: startx with an xinitrc that exec's your program?  might work?
[04:11]  * lewellyn looks in the iso
[04:11] <armence> zykotick9, webnet Do I need to mount it or do I cat to the device?
[04:11] <armence> In /dev I mean
[04:12] <lewellyn> oh i guess it actually is grub. interesting.
[04:12] <lewellyn> so yeah. grub isn't doing whatever magic needs to be done to load the kernel
[04:12] <zykotick9> armence: don't mount it - this will delete everything on it!  you ok with that?
[04:12] <webnet> zykotick9, duh why didnt i think of that. thank you.
[04:12] <armence> zykotick9, Yes I am
[04:12] <zykotick9> armence: are you 100% sure which device it is?
[04:13] <SFREGIO> yeah totally
[04:13] <armence> zykotick9, That was going to be my next question...
[04:13] <eduardo1981> bazhang, thanks...
[04:13] <armence> zykotick9, How do I know which device it is
[04:13] <sary> GRUB indeed , after the BIOS screen keep prissing SHIFT to bring up the GRUB Menu ..
[04:13] <zykotick9> armence: dmesg after plugging it in might work
[04:13] <ZaNeIuM> what that program that pastes your contents like if i do ls -a in a directoy it pastes the contens to a web page
[04:13] <SFREGIO> son troppo intoccabile nessuno puo farmi un cazzo cia :D
[04:13] <dr_willis> !blkid
[04:14] <dr_willis> ZaNeIuM:  pastebinit
[04:14] <lewellyn> sary: the alternate cd boots straight to grub.
[04:14] <sary> lewellyn: and 18x is really fast , i always go with 4x .
[04:14] <zykotick9> armence: dr_willis's blkid suggestion is probably easier and better, plug the drive in and run "sudo blkid" can you identify the USB with that?
[04:15] <lewellyn> sary: i've burnt literally hundreds of install media on these cds. 18x is the sweet spot.
[04:15] <armence> zykotick9, It's an sd card and there is a /dev/mmcblk0 sounds like a winner?
[04:15] <sary> lewellyn: cool , press 'e' while you at that menu
[04:15] <lewellyn> this isn't my first time around the block.
[04:15] <armence> dr_willis, Thanks, I'll try that
[04:15] <sary> lewellyn: am sure :)
[04:15] <zykotick9> armence: we need a /dev/sdX where X is a letter
[04:15] <dr_willis> armence:  ive seen sd cards use such device names befpr. mmcblk0  on laptops built in card readers
[04:16] <lewellyn> sary: i just find it utterly amazing that an intel reference board could possibly have this many problems with ubuntu when it runs other OSes fine. :/
[04:16] <dr_willis> a usb sd card reader . ive seen use sdXx  - built in card reader seem to use mmcXXXXX
[04:16] <zykotick9> armence: i'm sorry, perhaps mmcblk0 is you device??? but if that's the case i don't feel comfortable helping any further :(
[04:16] <armence> dr_willis, It is a laptop built-in card reader
[04:16] <armence> zykotick9, Thanks for taking me this far
[04:17] <dr_willis> try a sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcWhatever
[04:18] <ZaNeIuM> dr_willis how to i install that plz
[04:18] <dr_willis> on my netbook the sdcard is mmc*, on my desktop its sd* because the desktop is using a usb port for it.
[04:18] <dr_willis> ZaNeIuM:  its in the repos
[04:18] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[04:18] <number9> My plus and underscore no longer work in unity and gnome-shell but work fine in xfce.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:19] <sary> lewellyn: i hear you :) .. but this could be related to different area with your situation  , and each distro have different setup on the chiped kernel .
[04:19] <ZaNeIuM> thank you dr_willis
[04:20] <sary> lewellyn: is it an old Intel board .
[04:20] <vicatcu> hi again
[04:20] <sary> Hey
[04:20] <ZaNeIuM> could you tell me how i would use it now just to get the contents of the dir i am in now?
[04:20] <vicatcu> had to resort to a second computer here...
[04:20] <lewellyn> sary: and a very popular board. it also happens to be my most powerful available 32-bit board (since i specifically need 32-bit ubuntu for this set of tasks, i don't want to waste a 64-bit board)
[04:20] <vicatcu> After upgrading successfully to 12.04 LTS, I can no longer log in to the desktop
[04:21] <armence> dr_willis, OK, if I pull the card out, /dev/mmwhatever goes away so I feel quite confident that it's the right device
[04:21] <vicatcu> after typing the password, the screen goes black for a few seconds then comes back to prompt with the rejection sound
[04:21] <sary> vicatcu: where do you get stuck at ..
[04:21] <number9> I just solved my + and _ problem.  Universal Access "zoom in" and "zoom out" were assigned to these keys and that was preventing them to work in gnome environments.
[04:21] <dr_willis> vicatcu:  what does it do exactgy when you try?
[04:21] <vicatcu> sary: at the login prompt
[04:22] <armence> dr_willis, Actually, there are two devices: /dev/mmcblk0p1 and /dev/mmcblk0. Do you know what that means?
[04:22] <dr_willis> vicatcu:  can the yser login at the console?
[04:22] <vicatcu> dr_willis: like if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[04:22] <dr_willis> armence:  p1 = partion1, like sda1 sda2 you got mmcblkXpY
[04:22] <dr_willis> where X= devvice, Y=partition
[04:23] <dr_willis> vicatcu:  those are the consoles.. yes
[04:23] <armence> dr_willis, Makes lots of sense. So is it on the partition that I should cat the iso or directly on the device?
[04:24] <dr_willis> armence:  you image the iso to the device.. not a partition
[04:24] <vicatcu> dr_willis: yes I just logged in with console
[04:24] <zykotick9> armence: directly to the device - no partition!
[04:24] <armence> dr_willis, zykotick9 Thanks all.
[04:24] <vicatcu> dr_willis: I think the username being assumed at the prompt is the wrong one
[04:24] <sary> lewellyn: i see , i whould add nomodeset to the kernel as an option within the live cd to pass to the desktop and see how the installaion goes .. it could also be a graphic issue in your case thogu.
[04:25] <dr_willis> vicatcu:  now as a test. you could make a new user. 'sudo adduser billgates' then see if that user can login properly. if SO then that points to a user setting issue. if it affects new user also that points to a system type issue
[04:25] <dr_willis> username assumed?  huh?
[04:26] <lewellyn> sary: that's irrrelevant. the kernel never loads. kernel parameters never matter if the kernel's never loaded from disc.
[04:26] <vicatcu> dr_willis: when i am presented with a prompt, I see two options: Victor and Guest
[04:26] <lewellyn> once the cd spins down at the menu, it never spins up again.
[04:26] <vicatcu> dr_willis: when I log in at the console I log in as vic
[04:26] <dr_willis> vicatcu:  id try making a new user. see if they work
[04:26] <vicatcu> I can't change the username anywhere in the graphical login
[04:27] <armence> Quick question regarding sudo and pipes. If I sudo a command, what is it that gets sudoed? Redirects? Commands I pipe to?
[04:27] <zykotick9> armence: in this case i'd suggest using "sudo -i" then running the cat command
[04:27] <dr_willis> armence:  to use sudo and pipes properly one often has to use 'sudo tee' as part of the command
[04:28] <dr_willis> armence:  theres some sudo guides out there with examples
[04:28] <sary> lewellyn: am counfused , do you already have ubuntu installed on your hdd , or just traying to install !
[04:28] <dr_willis> if you google for 'ubuntu root shell right way' it should be the first hit for such a guide with an example
[04:29] <vicatcu> dr_willis: ok i created billgates, and restarted, Bill Gates appears but also can't log in with the password I gave him
[04:29] <lewellyn> sary: i've said "the install media" countless times :/
[04:29] <vicatcu> and if I type an actual wrong password, I see the message "Invalid password, please try again" displayed
[04:30] <sary> lewellyn: ah , my bad .
[04:30] <lewellyn> in any case, kernel parameters can't take effect if there's no kernel.
[04:30] <vicatcu> can anyone help me with this login problem?
[04:31] <sary> lewellyn: still , we might missed an important part .. the iso image .. have you made an md5 test to it .
[04:31] <wifioregon> Hi. I'm creating a Help guide for my site on How to put Ubuntu on a USB. Do you think Ubuntu would mind if I took the images off their site and put it on mine? I'm wording the instructions in my own words.
[04:31] <lewellyn> sary: yes. and it also works in other systems with the same exact disc and same exact cd drives
[04:32] <paulus68> Hi, one of my external harddrives gave an input/output error after rebooting I was able to use this drive again, can this be an indication that this drive is about to die?
[04:32] <dr_willis> paulus68:  id be making backups of anything imporntant onit
[04:32] <vicatcu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973517 suggests I should do rm ~/.Xauthority    is that safe?
[04:32] <cipher__> any reason why ubuntu can't manage to maintain its own repos and not host packages that destroy entire systems?
[04:32] <dr_willis> vicatcu:  renameit if youwant.
[04:33] <paulus68> dr_willis: Hmmm it's my backup drive :(
[04:33] <dr_willis> paulus68:  i have redundant stacks of exernal usb hds for backups
[04:33] <Fat-Thing> i just messed up my uubuntu 10.04 gnome desktop now i'm using fluxbox
[04:33] <snowrichard> doing the 12.04 lts upgrade on this laptop
[04:33] <Fat-Thing> any help to recover my gnome?
[04:33] <cipher__> can anyone try installing libasound2-plugin-equal
[04:33] <sary> lewellyn: thats very odd , lemme check on something .. hold up please :)
[04:34] <paulus68> dr_willis: ok will start looking for a new one, my wife would be happy to hear that lol
[04:35] <ZaNeIuM> anyone know how to use pastebinit to post the contents of a certian directory?
[04:35] <dr_willis> paulus68:  i keep 'suspect' hard drives for the wifes video files (i have extra copies) so she can hae a hd in the living room with all her shows on it. and in the backroom.. ;)
[04:35] <dr_willis> if they die. no big loss
[04:35] <cipher__> is anyone here a mod?
[04:35] <dr_willis> ZaNeIuM:  bash basics... command | command      for pipes
[04:35] <dr_willis> ZaNeIuM:  in this case   ls | pastebinit
[04:35] <cipher__>  libasound2-plugin-equal
[04:36] <ZaNeIuM> ls -a | pastbinit
[04:36] <ZaNeIuM> very cool
[04:36] <dr_willis> ZaNeIuM:  check bash redirection   docs for other examples
[04:36] <dr_willis> bash 101 stuff ;)
[04:37] <paulus68> dr_willis: jikes what happens when the wife can't see her shows because of a hardrive failure? you are taking a risk here *grin* my wife is already complaining that nothing works when she needs to print or when the cartridges are empty when she needs to print some family pics lol
[04:37] <ZaNeIuM> awsome, im more like bach 002
[04:37] <dr_willis> paulus68:  then she uses the network share thats an identical hard drive ;)
[04:37] <ZaNeIuM> ugg bash
[04:41] <webnet> zykotick9, do i have to have a wm to run a gui application?
[04:41] <webnet> or can i run it straightup out of the x server
[04:41] <cipher__> !help
[04:41] <zykotick9> webnet: no - it's possible with a wm.
[04:41] <zykotick9> without
[04:42] <windbuntu> i want to make my log in screen look just like my desktop (ubuntu 12.04)
[04:42] <windbuntu> is there a package for that?
[04:42] <sary> lewellyn: jus to be in the light here .. you can see GRUB menu with kernels listed .. right !
[04:42] <cipher__> crap, minecraft stopped working
[04:42] <cipher__> !ops
[04:42] <cipher__> i'm having a minecraft emergency
[04:43] <webnet> cipher__, um minecraft is NOT an emergency
[04:43] <windbuntu> i don't see ubuntu tweak in my software center?
[04:43] <webnet> windbuntu, u need the launchpad repo
[04:43] <webnet> for it
[04:43] <cipher__> what?
[04:43] <windbuntu> what is the launchpad repo Webnet?
[04:43] <windbuntu> ive never heard of it
[04:44] <webnet> um hold on let me look. i have it thats why i know. lol
[04:44] <windbuntu> ok ty webnet
[04:44] <windbuntu> i put in a bug reprt there but never saw that
[04:44] <vicatcu> so i'm looking at my lightdm.log file and I see it saying "Failed to load session file /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop: No such file or directory" then "Failed to start greeter"
[04:44] <vicatcu> anyone have any insight into that?
[04:45] <webnet> windbuntu, ppa:tualatrix/ppa
[04:45] <webnet> you have to add that to sources.list
[04:45] <windbuntu> ok ty webnet but what is that is that a command or something?
[04:45] <webnet> um hold on
[04:46] <lewellyn> sary: i see a screen with things like "Install Ubuntu" and "Test CD" and "Test memory"
[04:46] <webnet> sudo add-apt-repository <insert the ppa here>
[04:46] <webnet> to add a repo
[04:46] <lewellyn> sary: only memtest boots, which is presumably because it's not booting the ubuntu kernel
[04:46] <windbuntu> ok ty webnet i guess after i do that it will come clear
[04:46] <webnet> windbuntu, then make sure you sudo apt-get update
[04:46] <webnet> then it should show up there
[04:47] <webnet> :)
[04:47] <sary> vicatcu: seems like you're missing the Desktop meta package , i'd install ubuntu-desktop from a virtual console or the recovey mode.
[04:47] <windbuntu> so by doing that i am calling up a pkg to install that is not in the ubuntu software center is that correct ?
[04:47] <vicatcu> sary: ok sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in progress
[04:50] <windbuntu> so is this a non ubuntu thing webnet? (non supported i mean)?
[04:50] <windbuntu> 3rd party...
[04:51] <vicatcu> sary: bingo, I'm in, you are awesome
[04:52] <Fat-Thing> dr_willis, u there? pls help
[04:53] <dr_willis> am at work. so i may have to leave at any time.. state the issue.
[04:53] <Fat-Thing> i just messed up my uubuntu 10.04 gnome desktop now i'm using fluxbox
[04:53] <Fat-Thing> how can i get back my ubuntu desktop?
[04:54] <dr_willis> depends on how you messed it up.
[04:54] <dr_willis> make new user.see if it wirks for them
[04:54] <Fat-Thing> nope
[04:54] <Fat-Thing> nothing
[04:55] <dr_willis> vague answers are vague.....
[04:55] <Fat-Thing> i got the wallpaper and a terminal i can't see panels desktop icons can't even right click so i tried to restart ang used other so i could use my fluxbox
[04:55] <Fat-Thing> in fluxbox synaptic package manager gnome is not installed
[04:55] <Fat-Thing> i think that's the problem
[04:56] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:56] <dr_willis> to install it
[04:59] <sary> lewellyn: Alright thanks , please bear with me as i have never seen such an issue nor did i used he alternative cd before .
[05:00] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000265/ dr_willis
[05:00] <lewellyn> sary: it's very ubuntu-specific
[05:00] <lewellyn> sary: i'm giving up for the night
[05:00] <sary> but missing the kernel from the installation cd is over my head.
[05:00] <lewellyn> the kernel isn't missing. it's just not loading.
[05:01] <sary> lewellyn: alright .
[05:01] <lewellyn> but i need to go make dinner. it's 2200
[05:02] <dr_willis> Fat-Thing:  so.. its installed.. looks like it was basically installed befor..
[05:02] <sary> lewellyn: okay , minde if i send you a memo if i found something about it!
[05:02] <dr_willis> Fat-Thing:  make a new user. see if they can login
[05:03] <Fat-Thing> ok
[05:03] <trubbor> Apple TrackPad: Works great on Ubuntu 12.04. Has anyone had any success with getting the "2-finger page swipe" working? I'd love to be able to change web pages with a gesture...
[05:15] <arno-> Hi, I want to use my modified keyboard layout. But it's in /usr/share/something so whenever xkb-data will be updated, my modifications will be lost
[05:16] <arno-> how to tell apt/dpkg to not touch some files
[05:16] <arno-> ?
[05:17] <eduardo1981> good night
[05:17] <dr_willis> what files?
[05:17] <eduardo1981> see you
[05:18] <arno-> dr_willis: /usr/share/X11/.../symbols/fr
[05:21] <dr_willis> normally apt asks  if you want to use a changed config file. but that might not be considered a config file.  when i doubt back the altered file up somewhere. and restore it afterwards i guess
[05:22] <dr_willis> ive never notced an apt 'do not touch' list
[05:22] <arno-> dr_willis: no, this is no config file
[05:22] <arno-> and saving/restoring it is tedious
[05:23] <dr_willis> how often is it getting changed?
[05:23] <Gskellig> last time I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 I had a black screen and it would not boot. I restored a disk image and I'm back on 11.10
[05:23] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Gskellig
[05:23] <cipher__> would anyone here mind checking the package libasound2-plugin-equal for install errors?
[05:23] <Gskellig> I tried that
[05:23] <dr_willis> Gskellig:  i always do clean installs. so thats about all i can suggest.
[05:23] <Gskellig> it was acting like it didn't have write permission to the disk
[05:23] <arno-> I think there is a way to do that with dpkg-statoverride, but I don't remember how to do it, and the documentation is tedious
[05:24] <Gskellig> =\
[05:24] <windbuntu> can i make the panel at the top of the screen the same clear color as my unity launcher (12.04) ?
[05:24] <arno-> dr_willis: I don't known how often. But when I used debian, it was about once every month or once every two months. Every time, this put me in a bad mood for the rest of the morning :)
[05:24] <dr_willis> windbuntu:  i recall a setting somewhere that affected the transparenty of the top menubar. some themes made it transparent i recall.
[05:25] <windbuntu> that would look more uniform
[05:25] <windbuntu> i really like this unity desktop
[05:25] <dr_willis> arno-:  unless its somesort of security fix, ubuntu most likely wont be updateing it as often. you could always script rc.local to see if its changed and change it back.
[05:26] <windbuntu> i seem to recall a time when the top menubar would just disappear so in a way im afraid to mess with it
[05:26] <dr_willis> transparent top panel - i think had some  ugly issues  - but i dont recall the details
[05:26] <windbuntu> yeah i best not mess with it
[05:26] <dr_willis> you can always reset the unity settings.
[05:27] <windbuntu> if the ubuntu mase it to match from the start it would be best
[05:27] <windbuntu> made*
[05:27] <dr_willis> i think there was some how a trnsparent panel showed the gnome-desktop menus for some reason. i forget why/how - it  only affected some themes
[05:27] <dr_willis> Some themes do mke it transparent.
[05:27] <windbuntu> i use my own desktop wallpaper though not one of the standard ones
[05:28] <dr_willis> solid color wallpaper - what real men use. ;)
[05:28] <arno-> dr_willis: you're right, xkb-data probably won't have lot of security updates.
[05:28] <dr_willis> or this 'my little pony' wwallpaper i found..
[05:28] <windbuntu> i use weird looking retro doze wallpaper
[05:28] <windbuntu> so my os look way old
[05:29] <dr_willis> C64 wallpaper ;)
[05:29] <windbuntu> w98
[05:29] <windbuntu> w95
[05:29] <windbuntu> even vista sometimes
[05:29] <windbuntu> even though i really dislike those OS's
[05:30] <dr_willis> i dislike the color-smear default wallpaper :) so i changed it to a brown-pangolin picture i found
[05:30] <dr_willis> the 'show users wallpaper on login screen' feature... can get embaraseing ;)
[05:31] <dr_willis> wonder if that feature works with encrypted homes
[05:33] <vll> which dict software is good ?
[05:33] <dr_willis> 'dict' meaning?
[05:34] <vll> dr_willis:  translate tool
[05:34] <grillermo> google translate
[05:34] <grillermo> :P
[05:34] <Wizard> Hi.
[05:34] <grillermo> hi
[05:35] <dr_willis> ih!
[05:35] <cipher__> dr_willis, this package "libasound2-plugin-equal" is broken. it un-installs all your installed packages one by one.
[05:35] <moon> ffff
[05:35] <shyun> 수환형님이... 꺼지래...
[05:36] <Guest96691> hi
[05:36] <cipher__> it uninstalled minecraft as i was playing it :(, and went on to about brick my ubuntu install
[05:36] <xjiujiu> hi
[05:36] <xjiujiu> It is so slowly !!!upgrading ubuntu version from 11.10 to 12.04.
[05:37] <cipher__> well, my jvm anyway.
[05:37] <Wizard> xjiujiu, Slowly?
[05:37] <Wizard> !cn | shyun
[05:38] <dr_willis> cipher__:  first ive ever heard of it
[05:38] <dr_willis> !info libasound2-plugin-equal
[05:38] <Wizard> !ko | shyun
[05:38] <Wizard> shyun, sorry ;]
[05:38] <xjiujiu> Wizard, yes..um..
[05:38] <cipher__> dr_willis, 64bit 11.10
[05:38] <xjiujiu> the download speed is just 4.xxkb/s..
[05:39] <Wizard> xjiujiu, That depends on how many packages you have installed.
[05:39] <dr_willis> main servers were slow over the weekend, they seem fixed now.
[05:40] <xjiujiu> The upgrade info shows that I need upgrade 2,111 packages..
[05:40] <Wizard> xjiujiu, Did you set up proper mirror in spurces.list?
[05:40] <dr_willis> one of the many reasons i always do clean installs
[05:40] <Wizard> :)
[05:41] <xjiujiu> I set up the apt/source.list..But it's not work...
[05:41] <KM0201> dr_willis: same
[05:41] <xjiujiu> clean!!!
[05:41] <xjiujiu> Oh, no~
[05:41] <Wizard> Hmm. I did it "in background" of working.
[05:41] <xjiujiu> Don't let me to do this..
[05:41] <Wizard> xjiujiu, You don't have to.
[05:41] <KM0201> it's just better..lol
[05:41] <dr_willis> setup how? the upgrade tools should handle all that
[05:42] <xjiujiu> yes, but the download speed is so slowly..
[05:43] <Wizard> xjiujiu, Setting proper mirrors in sources.list helps.
[05:43] <xjiujiu> Ok,fine...
[05:43] <xjiujiu> I try it again...
[05:44] <Wizard> Cancelling download shouldn't be a big deal.
[05:44] <Wizard> Which mirrors do you use now?
[05:44] <Wizard> !mirror
[05:45] <KM0201> you could use the alt. cd and upgrade with it i guess.
[05:45] <KM0201> the alt cd should download in about 15-20min w/ the torrents (at least it does for me)
[05:45] <Wizard> I think LiveCD offers an updating tool too.
[05:46] <Wizard> Yesterday I was almost sure.
[05:46] <Wizard> Now I'm not.
[05:46] <xjiujiu> I have added some mirrors into the source.list, but they aren't work,the download address is aways http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:49] <danny_> hello this isnt directly ubuntu related but im sure u guys could point me in the right direction im looking for a irc channel for asking questions about the command line im reading The Linux Command Line by William E. Shotts, Jr. and have some questions because i wanted to learn more about it and theres some things i am very confused about
[05:49] <xjiujiu> Some articles said that all of files will be cleaned on the / direcotry,just the /home directory can be save..
[05:50] <xjiujiu> upgrading by livecd.
[05:50] <dr_willis> a upgrade will not touch stuf in /home
[05:50] <dr_willis> a clean install can save it or reforamt it
[05:51] <dr_willis> danny_:  #bash channel
[05:51] <dr_willis> only the alt-instsller cd has a upgrade feature i belive
[05:51] <sary> danny_: hi , you could try asking the guys in ##linux , and you can always search for channels in freenode with keywords using alis , for eample /msh alis list *gnu* .. see /msg alis list help
[05:52] <danny_> sary: is linux freenode?
[05:52] <dr_willis> this is the freenode irc network.
[05:52] <icebyte> hi
[05:52] <sary> danny_: no , freenode is the IRC network your in right now.
[05:52] <vll> grillermo: when I select a word in terminal or vim , and press ctrl+c , google translate can't auto popup the translate for that word .
[05:52] <xjiujiu> I don't want to set up my server environment again.so ...
[05:53] <danny_> sary, lol see ima noob big time how do i get to the ##linux channel
[05:53] <KM0201> danny_: "/j #linux" no quotes
[05:53] <sary> danny_: we all were at some point , you type /join ##linux .
[05:53] <icebyte> icebytesay hi
[05:53] <dr_willis> most clients let you click on channel names that begin with   #
[05:53] <xjiujiu> click the ##linux :D
[05:53] <Troller> :D
[05:54] <KM0201> dr_willis: thats a good point
[05:54] <KM0201> #linux will take you to ##linux as well.
[05:56] <snowrichard> hi
[05:56] <fidel_> ahoi
[05:56] <snowrichard> still doing 12.04 lts upgrade
[05:56] <danny_> sary, im a painter and realized im not doing much with my life so ive decided to start playing around with what ive been wanting to do for a wile and see if i can start helping noobs like me out in my free time and start learning to code soon after i figure this basics out
[05:56] <KM0201> snowrichard: seems you're not the only one.
[05:57] <KM0201> snowrichard: what are you upgrading from?
[05:57] <KM0201> 11.10 or 10.04? (i thought the LTS upgrade wouldn't be ready until 12.04.1
[05:57] <snowrichard> 11 something
[05:57]  * KM0201 hopes its 11.10
[05:57] <joel> :)
[05:57]  * iamzim pats danny_ on the back.
[05:58] <danny_> any one have any suggestions on other books i should look into that are very very easy to understand like before today i didnt know how to cd /home/Downloads lol
[05:59] <incog> unity is awful
[05:59] <snowrichard> i've noticed on my other desktop that has already upgraded that there are notifications about system errors, but they don't seem to affect most of the programs i am actually using
[05:59] <dr_willis> bash is very well dociumented danny_  100's of books out on it
[05:59] <dr_willis> unity works very well.
[05:59] <dr_willis> !abs | danny_
[06:00] <danny_> dr_willis: thats what i was looking for thank you sir
[06:01] <dr_willis> delicious.com has 1000's of things  tagged with bash tutorial
[06:01] <dr_willis> the Oreialy book 'Using Bash' is a must track down also ;)  often its in the  bargin bins at real bookstores
[06:01] <dr_willis> or find a E-book version
[06:02] <LinuxMonkey> dr_willis: I will second that book its usefull :)
[06:02] <halakar> oh crap, all my youtube videos have a blue tint.  how to fix?
[06:02] <dr_willis> 'mastering regular expressions' is also a good book to read.. even if you donmt understand it at first
[06:02] <sary> danny_:nice thinkin .. check LPIC book , 2nd edition , whats interesing is that you can take the exam online.
[06:02] <dr_willis> halakar:  use the html5 feature of youtube and dump flsh
[06:02] <halakar> dr_willis, how to do that?
[06:02] <dr_willis> halakar:  youtube.com/html5
[06:03] <sary> dump it like dumping for real :D
[06:03] <Troller> :D
[06:03] <halakar> that worked
[06:03] <dr_willis> i noticed colors for some vids were wrong in flash on youtube. but others were ok. they aall were ok with html5
[06:04] <dr_willis> plus its not using flash.. ;)
[06:04] <dr_willis> so phhhhtt.. to adobe
[06:04] <sary> danny_: and ITNA as well , but i haven't found a good book for it.
[06:05] <sary> i've used Gnash , not to bad i may say.
[06:05] <danny_> sary, i shouldnt have asked so soon starting to get confused were i should start now but what is itna ?
[06:05] <sary> *too
[06:06] <dr_willis> 2
[06:06] <dr_willis> ;)  start with  The bash basics books,,, and expand from there
[06:07] <quesada_> I  got /usr/bin/X  pegging a CPU all the time. it started recently. This happens even if I have very few windows open. How would I start debugging this? (Kwin as w. manager)
[06:07] <sary> danny_:  Information Technology and NetWork Administration (ITNA)
[06:08] <dr_willis> quesada_:  ive notied a similer thing after X is running for a long time. a logout/backin (restart X server) seems to fix it...  not seen any definitive answer on whaats sucking down the cpu. Just X will taake 50% of one core here.. but lags the whole system
[06:08] <quesada_> that's ti
[06:08] <quesada_> it
[06:08] <sary> danny_: alos , the LPI LinuxCertification in a Nutshell .. is a good one.
[06:08] <dr_willis> quesada_:  does it in every desktop or even in just  simple winmdow manager like openbox
[06:08] <quesada_> but what a pitiful solution ... logging out? That sucks
[06:08] <quesada_> I only tried kwin
[06:09] <dr_willis> quesada_:  some driver issue would be my guess. using nvida drivers here.
[06:09] <quesada_> me too
[06:09] <danny_> well thanks guys ive written down all the ones u suggested i think this will keep me busy for a wile
[06:09] <dr_willis> and ive tried the normal nvidia from the repos.. and the latest from the various ppas
[06:09] <icebyte> hi
[06:10] <icebyte>  hi
[06:10] <quesada_> but noveau is not any better? have you tried it?
[06:10] <dr_willis> ih
[06:10] <sary> hey
[06:10] <dr_willis> quesada_:  never really noticed. My pc is just a ssh box most of the time. ;)
[06:10] <quesada_> dr_willis: so no driver solved it?
[06:11] <quesada_> dr_willis: have you googled it? what keywords did you use?
[06:11] <dr_willis> quesada_:  all the nvidia drivers follow the same pattern.. long uptime = gets slow. BUt sometimes if i do somthing with a lot of system load. it seems to happen faster.. like reencoding with handbreak. it will get laggy within 20 min
[06:11] <quesada_> 'X' is not a good one :)
[06:12] <quesada_> what hardware do you have?
[06:12] <dr_willis> it happenss in lubuntu, and ubuntu/unity, and gnome-shell
[06:12] <icebyte> hi
[06:12] <dr_willis> some midrange nvidia card.. i forget the # its about a year old
[06:13] <icebyte> icebytesay hi
[06:13] <quesada_> how long have you experienced the problem?
[06:13] <sary> quesada_: nvidia-curent freezed and crached My X , haven't got an issue with noveau .
[06:13] <icebyte> icebytesay hello
[06:13] <dr_willis> quesada_:  since release.. dont recall the issue in beta. but i dident beta test much
[06:14] <LinuxMonkey> Nouveau doesnt offer 3d accel right?
[06:15] <quesada_> dr_willis: did you find anything googling?
[06:15] <quesada_> is this a known bug?
[06:16] <mjreed> Hey, trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04, but update manager only offers 11.10.   Help?
[06:16] <dr_willis> quesada_:  a few with similer issues. no real details
[06:16] <mjreed> I even have 12.04 livecd mounted and in apt sources
[06:16] <DarwinSurvivor> mjreed: You need to upgrade to 11.10, then to 12.04
[06:16] <mjreed> ...
[06:17] <mjreed> so this http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1004-1010-1104-to-ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-a-server/ is incorrect, then?
[06:17] <LinuxMonkey> hahaha nvm on my question about nouveau found my answer.lol
[06:17] <DarwinSurvivor> mjreed: the alternative is to just reinstall and keep your home folder (but you'll need to reinstall all your applications as well)
[06:17] <quesada_> I'm amazed at how used we linuxers are to these things
[06:17] <mjreed> That's a whole lot of extra work and time, either way.
[06:17] <dr_willis> you go lts-:lts Or go each step...
[06:17] <quesada_> we sort of assume we have to put up with this
[06:17] <quesada_> a 3day uptime and I have to reboot X? Bah!
[06:18] <dr_willis> ive had worse issues with windows
[06:18] <mjreed> so if I were still on 10.04 I could go straight to 12.04, but from 11.04 I have to go through 11.10
[06:18] <dr_willis> 10.04 to 12.04 wont be avail untill 12.04.1 is outr
[06:18] <dr_willis> out
[06:18] <KM0201> mjreed: basically...
[06:18] <Jordan_U> mjreed: Correct.
[06:18] <DarwinSurvivor> mjreed: correct, because 10.04 and 12.04 are both LTS releases, that is the only time you can "skip" release when upgrading
[06:19] <dr_willis> i rarely upgrade. ;)
[06:19] <mjreed> well, there's a lot of misinformation out there, then, and like an idjit I believed it.
[06:19]  * KM0201 has never upgraded
[06:19] <sary> LinuxMonkey: i haven't checked on that , am running gnome-shell fine with it .. what did you find !
[06:19] <mjreed> i have a full backup, I can just reinstall..
[06:19] <dr_willis> misinformation? the lts to lts.. or step by step.. is how its been for years..
[06:19] <DarwinSurvivor> mjreed: when in doubt, read the *official* ubuntu docs, not random blog posts you find on google :)
[06:19] <Jordan_U> mjreed: Best to stick to official documentation, which usually contains very little misinformation :)
[06:20] <dr_willis> the 'waiting untill 12.04.1' is out for lts to lts  is new to 12.04 i belive
[06:21] <LinuxMonkey> sary: there is some 3d accel now but its highly unstable
[06:21] <sary> Can't one change the release type to lts and upgrade to straight to the next lts .
[06:21] <dr_willis> sary thats a scary idea
[06:21] <hotbyte> hi
[06:21] <Jordan_U> sary: No.
[06:21] <DarwinSurvivor> sary: LTS is not a "type", only certain release are LTS.
[06:21] <DarwinSurvivor> !lts
[06:22] <sary> LinuxMonkey: nice , any source that i can read about that .
[06:22] <dr_willis> lts to lts upgrades have been 'tested' to work also i belive
[06:22] <sary> dr_willis: i was just asking ..
[06:22] <sary> never done an lts to lts before ..
[06:22] <dr_willis> i rarely if ever upgrade.
[06:22] <KM0201> 10.04 users who upgrade to 12.04 will get quite a shock.. no more gnome 2.x (unity)
[06:23] <LinuxMonkey> sary: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ <--then go down to the quick overview section
[06:23] <dr_willis> i can do a clean install in 1/2 the time
[06:23] <mjreed> fair enough.
[06:23] <KM0201> yup
[06:23] <KM0201> not to mention if the upgrade fails, you're probbly hosed anyway and you'll have to clean install.
[06:23] <mjreed> quick rsync to refresh the ol' backup, and off I go to reinstall
[06:23] <sary> LinuxMonkey: thank you :)
[06:23] <hotbyte> hello
[06:24] <mjreed> yes, that happened on the last box I upgraded from 10.x to 11.x.  Everything outside of my home dir was completely wiped.
[06:24] <mjreed> might as well have done the clean install in the first place.
[06:24] <mjreed> the 11.x to 12.x upgrade on the same box went fine, though.
[06:25] <roshan> hello
[06:26] <roshan> Today, I installed Ubuntu 12.04
[06:26] <mjreed> is dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections still the way to get packages back?
[06:26] <dr_willis> !clone
[06:26] <roshan> I sudoed apt-update and apt-upgrade
[06:26] <DarwinSurvivor> huh, I wonder if a french person wrote that, they tend to use the << notation instead of "
[06:27] <roshan> My question is , is it possible to remove all the non free items, restricted drivers, extras, etc ?????????
[06:27] <slipknot> hi  i am trying compile blueman ver 1.2.3 bat i get this message configure: error: Could not find Python headers
[06:27] <mjreed> if they'd been German it'd be  »...  «  instead.
[06:27] <dr_willis> roshan:  start removing them.. if you want.. but why bother.
[06:28] <dr_willis> roshan:  i recall some ubuntu variant (unofficial) that came without them by default.
[06:28] <roshan> But, I dont know how to remove those, and where they are installed .
[06:28] <drizzlin> slipknot: try apt-getting gcc headers
[06:28] <drizzlin> or gcc
[06:28] <dr_willis> roshan why are you worried about it then:
[06:28] <roshan> un officials is ok....i don't want free as in freedom softwares
[06:29] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: what is your reason for removing them? Is it functional, philisophical, political, legal or educational?
[06:29] <roshan> philosophical...
[06:29] <dr_willis> may be some guides on it online. never really notced.
[06:30] <johnown> hi
[06:30] <roshan> You might have heard of many issues in India related to knowledge sharng.
[06:30] <sary> hey
[06:30] <LinuxMonkey> Keep in mind roshan you may loose alot of functionality by removing those
[06:30] <roshan> So, why make the government do something to ban these..
[06:30] <roshan> It would be better to stay on the safe free side
[06:30] <mjreed> ok, thanks, off with me to reinstall..
[06:30] <dr_willis> gov. is going to ban flash? ;)
[06:30] <dr_willis> removeing them so the gov. wont make you remove them?
[06:31] <roshan> LinuxMonkey, I don't want to remove all those that were there preinstalle.d
[06:31] <mjreed> the software in question is all legal, even in India... it's just not open-source.
[06:31] <roshan> no..they aren't
[06:31] <dr_willis> as soon as they order people to not do somthing...  they wnt to do it even more
[06:31] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: can you post a link to the issues you are talking about?
[06:31] <roshan> We cant trust.because, now, the torrent sharing has been blocked here
[06:32] <dr_willis> there are 'libre' variants of many disrtos out that try to be 100% GPL.
[06:32] <roshan> Is it possible to remove only those files that were installed after apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
[06:32] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: torrents have nothing to do with "free" or "non-free". in fact, a LOT of free software (including ubuntu) is distributed via torrents
[06:32] <dr_willis> you can remivce them.. if you know what to removce
[06:32] <xangua> roshan: free software foundation has recomended 100% free/libre  distros, if i recall gnewsence is one of them and it's based in ubuntu
[06:33] <xangua> roshan: if you want 100% you would even need to remove the kernel with has propietary blobs
[06:33] <dr_willis> but variants like gnewsence are not supported here.
[06:33] <DarwinSurvivor> xangua: well of course they have, microsoft also recommends microsoft software, but that has little to do with policies in India...
[06:33] <roshan> Xangua, but, we gay GNU/Linux, so, it can be considered free.
[06:34] <DarwinSurvivor> xangua: actually, I don't think the kernel does have any proprietary blogs, only some of the modules (which are added at *runtime*) are proprietary
[06:34] <DarwinSurvivor> *blobs
[06:35] <DarwinSurvivor> xangua: if the kernel had binary blobs, they wouldn't be able to use the GPL to distribute it!
[06:35] <roshan> Can you tell me, how to remove only those after upgrade ?
[06:36] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: why is upgraded non-free software a problem, but not the original non-free software?
[06:36] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: also, if you undo the update and then never update again, you will never get security updates, which is *BAD*
[06:36] <roshan> That is a pint Darwin Survivor, ..I too wished to ask a quetion
[06:37] <urlwolf> hmm, X stopped sucking CPU. it fixed itself
[06:37] <roshan> Is it like Ubuntu only comes with  free softwares ?
[06:37] <urlwolf> but I'm very worried. An uptime of 3 days only, and this happens?
[06:37] <coy> i need dual mointur withh ubuntu 12.04
[06:37] <dr_willis> urlwolf:  i had the issue.. thought it went away.. then it came back
[06:38] <icebyte> hi
[06:38] <urlwolf> argh
[06:38] <dr_willis> urlwolf:  restarting X fixed it for me.. for a while..
[06:38] <urlwolf> but that's no solution long-term...
[06:38] <johnown> hi
[06:38] <DarwinSurvivor> urlwolf: could you re-post the original problem, the scrollback is quite long
[06:39] <urlwolf>  got /usr/bin/X  pegging a CPU all the time. it started recently. This happens even if I have very few windows open. How would I start debugging this? (Kwin as w. manager)
[06:39] <icebyte> icebytesay hello
[06:39] <johnown>  hell
[06:39] <urlwolf> uptime 3 days
[06:39] <dr_willis> urlwolf:  long term will be when they fix the bug
[06:39] <urlwolf> GUI extremely slow
[06:39] <DarwinSurvivor> urlwolf: can you install htop and then turn on the "tree" view (F5) and see if there is a bunch of stuff it has spawned?
[06:39] <urlwolf> dr_willis: hahah
[06:40] <dr_willis> urlwolf:  ive had it happen after just 8 hrs
[06:40] <urlwolf> I did
[06:40] <roshan> Anyone ??
[06:40] <urlwolf> nothing that I could see on htop
[06:40] <dr_willis> its not long uptime..its long X runtime here.
[06:40] <LordDeath> is it normal that after installing the fglrx driver I have no suspend to disk anymore?
[06:40] <urlwolf> dr_willis: correct
[06:40] <dr_willis> htop shows X taking 50% of a single  core onmy 8 core system. but its lagging like crazy.
[06:40] <urlwolf> dr_willis: did this happen with nouveau too?
[06:40] <dr_willis> restrt x - its down to 0-1% withsame apps going
[06:41] <urlwolf> dr_willis: this is exactly the problem
[06:41] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: you seem  to be going all over the place, first you wanted to remove non-free software, then you wanted to undo an update (which would not have *added* any non-free software)
[06:41] <dr_willis> i dont recall trying nouveau. it did it with every wm i tested.
[06:41] <urlwolf> maybe nouveau helps
[06:41] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: what is it *exactly* that you are worried about (software patents, codecs, copyright, proprietary software with security problems, etc)?
[06:42] <roshan> Dawin Survivor, In the software sources, the non-free extras and propreitary softwares are ticked by default.
[06:42] <roshan> That is why i asked so,
[06:42] <DarwinSurvivor> urlwolf: does this happen in all accounts, or just yours?
[06:42] <swapnendu> h
[06:42] <swapnendu> hi
[06:42] <linux> i think new kernel has more bug
[06:42] <roshan> As you said, just doing an update will not install any non free items ?
[06:42] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: and what is your reason for wanting to remove them?
[06:42] <halakar> videos in chromium still show with a blue tint on youtube, what gives?
[06:42] <roshan> hello
[06:42] <xangua> halakar: tried disabling flash hardware acceleration¿
[06:42] <icebyte> I cannot see what I have typed on a channel.
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: no, all it will do is update the software that is already installed some of that may have been non-free, but you already had an older copy of it anyways.
[06:43] <roshan> okay
[06:43] <roshan> that saved me
[06:43] <roshan> i mean the answer you provided saved me
[06:43] <linux> why sometimes mouse stop working after startup
[06:43] <roshan> thank you
[06:44] <swapnendu> do you think that ubntustudio 11.04 is better than 12.04?
[06:44] <SilentDis> halakar: I had a similar problem.  it went away when I did reinstall of the os (kept /home, threw away everything else when I went to 12.04).  I assume it's a setting somewhere for either the nvidia driver or the flash plugin.
[06:44] <halakar> has to be flash related
[06:44] <halakar> i am a fresh install of 12.04LTS
[06:44] <halakar> this just started happening
[06:44] <DarwinSurvivor> swapnendu: probably best to ask in the #ubuntustudio channel
[06:44] <xangua> (01:42:53) xangua: halakar: tried disabling flash hardware acceleration¿
[06:45] <swapnendu> missed out 11.10
[06:45] <swapnendu> how was it>
[06:45] <swapnendu> ?
[06:45] <dr_willis> youtube has html5 features that dont use flash
[06:45] <KM0201> swapnendu: not bad.. still someone unity quirks I didn't like.. most things (for me anyway) have been resolved in 12.04
[06:46] <DarwinSurvivor> swapnendu: this channel is for support questions, if you want opinions and suggestions, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[06:46] <swapnendu> thanks a lot Darwin
[06:46] <halakar> xangua, I can't uncheck it when i right click on the video
[06:47] <DarwinSurvivor> halakar: someone said you have to do it from full-screen (some strange flash bug)
[06:47] <dr_willis> ive seen flash bugs where yoou cant check the box's. one fix i recall was to keep the right mouse held down while clicking. (no idea why)
[06:47] <urlwolf> DarwinSurvivor: I only have one account
[06:47] <xangua> halakar: for some weird reason you have to make the video fullscreen to select Properties
[06:48] <DarwinSurvivor> urlwolf: how long does it take to notice the CPU increase (minutes, hours, days)?
[06:48] <roshan> Is there a free alternative to flash ?
[06:48] <urlwolf> for me it was ~3days
[06:48] <dr_willis> roshan:  gnash. but it works with only some sites
[06:48] <mantest> hi
[06:48] <xangua> roshan: gnash, lightspark, but don't have all features
[06:48] <urlwolf> but dr_willis says he gets it with only 8hrs
[06:49] <dr_willis> urlwolf:  or less..
[06:49] <roshan> one more question
[06:49] <urlwolf> funny thing, it fixes itself
[06:49] <mantest> icebytesay hi
[06:49] <icebyte>  hi
[06:49] <urlwolf> but I don't trust the system anymoree
[06:49] <roshan> I get a battery backup of less than 1 hour. is it possible to improve it?
[06:49] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: on a UPS or a laptop?
[06:49] <SilentDis> roshan: you mean, off a UPS or from your laptop's battery?
[06:50] <roshan> laptop
[06:50] <dr_willis> roshan depends on the details of themacchine. there may be some tweaks for spefific make/models.
[06:50] <roshan> My laptop
[06:50] <roshan> it doesnt get enough backup
[06:50] <dr_willis> Power saveing features in the latest kernel are improved.. but some laptops still have issues
[06:50] <DarwinSurvivor> roshan: backup? you mean you can't run more than 1 hour on the battery?
[06:50] <SilentDis> roshan: age of the laptop?  I'm just trying to rule out a simple 'bad battery'
[06:50] <mantest> icebytesay icebyte will say whatever you say.
[06:50] <icebyte>  icebyte will say whatever you say.
[06:51] <halakar> weird, some videos show normal and others don't
[06:51] <dr_willis> halakar:  yep. i noticed the same thing.
[06:51] <DarwinSurvivor> halakar: it's a bug in flash, disabling hardware acceleration is the only workaround until adobe fixes it
[06:51] <dr_willis> i just started using youtube downloader tools to get them/convert to watch ;)
[06:52] <dr_willis> or use the html5 feataure
[06:52] <halakar> DarwinSurvivor, ya, but I can't click the button that disables the hardware acceleration
[06:52] <DarwinSurvivor> minitube isn't bad either
[06:52] <DarwinSurvivor> halakar: did you try it while the video was in fullscreen?
[06:52] <halakar> no
[06:52] <mantest> icebytesay icebyte say whatever you say by preceding the word icebytesay
[06:52] <icebyte>  icebyte say whatever you say by preceding the word icebytesay
[06:53] <DarwinSurvivor> halakar: you need to do that
[06:53] <DarwinSurvivor> mantest: please stop that
[06:53] <dr_willis> halakar:  or just enable html5 for youtube
[06:53] <halakar> ah, fixed it
[06:53] <halakar> I had HTML5 enabled, certain videos were fine but others were not
[06:53] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: do you know if it affects other flash video sites (vimeo, etc)?
[06:54] <halakar> DarwinSurvivor, thanks for the tip.
[06:54] <dr_willis> not all vidoes may be using html5. i think youtube has most converted
[06:54] <dr_willis> DarwinSurvivor:  no idea. I dont really flash much
[06:54] <dr_willis> i tend to download and watch also...
[06:56] <halakar> it's weird it just started acting like that though
[06:57] <mantest> hello icebytesay
[06:57] <icebyte> hello
[06:57] <brianpWins> should Ubuntu have a /usr/share/dict/words Words file?
[06:57] <DarwinSurvivor> mantest: please test your bots elsewhere
[06:58] <dr_willis> !find /usr/share/dict/words
[06:58] <brianpWins> thats good and all but my system is missing it. is that something  can install via a package manager or something ?
[06:58] <brianpWins> \
[06:59] <dr_willis> bot just said its in 'dictionaries-common' package
[06:59] <decci> My Ubuntu 10.04 is unable to detect Broadcom nic bcm5720
[06:59] <decci> Neither 12.04 suports that
[06:59] <dr_willis> !broadcom
[07:00] <dr_willis> not heaard the 57# befor.
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: I think it's an ethernet card (from google)
[07:00] <dr_willis> !bcm
[07:00] <brianpWins> thank you dr_willis
[07:00] <dr_willis> rarely seen a wired card that dident work. ;)
[07:01] <dr_willis> seen a few with buggy drivers..  or several differnt drivers
[07:01] <Romance> Hello, why my ping is so high in ubuntu 11.04 (200-250ms), but when i use Windows XP , the ping is a bit low (80-100ms)
[07:01] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: my x220 had a heck of a time with the wired gigabit card in it. Intel 82579LM
[07:01] <decci> Romance: Linux is meant for Networking not Windows
[07:01] <decci> :)
[07:01] <Romance> cool for networking, so why the ping is high
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: what are you pinging?
[07:02] <decci> Romance: coz Linux is fast
[07:02] <Romance> speedtest.net
[07:02] <Romance> high ping fast?
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> decci: lower pings are faster, not higher ones....
[07:02] <decci> DarwinSurvivor: kidding
[07:03] <DarwinSurvivor> decci: don't do that in here, many users don't know enough to know you are kidding!
[07:03] <dr_willis> 'great app - best ive ever used !   1 Star!'
[07:03] <decci> DarwinSurvivor: Sorry
[07:03] <Romance> try to change to google dns in ubuntu, still the ping is high
[07:03] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: what are you pinging (home router, ISP server, speedtest, google.com, etc) and are you on wired, wireless or 3g?
[07:03] <dr_willis> if you ping by ip#  - the dns wont matter.. dident think dns mattered anyway
[07:04] <Romance> DarwinSurvivor : im testing my speed on speedtest.net (include ping test) , and im on wireless
[07:04] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: it will matter if the dns server you are using routes you to a further server with the same name
[07:04] <dr_willis> but the ping command shows the ip# being used.
[07:05] <dr_willis> so jot down the ip#  for your benchnmarking
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: ok, 1> are you using the same speedtest server (on the map) as you did in windows 2> what ping do you get to your router 3> have you tried wired?
[07:05] <Romance> yes in Windows im using exactly the same , tested on speedtest
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: speedtest lets you test using different servers (see the icons on the map), did you use the same icon?
[07:06] <Romance> i dont care about being wired or wireless, i just want to know why the ping it so different?
[07:06] <Romance> im using the same server
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: well, we need to determine if the problem is ubuntu, the wireless, the router, or something else causing the problem first!
[07:07] <Romance> what problem is that in ubuntu? thats why i asked
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: we can't fix a problem if we don't know what is causing it. please run "ping ip_of_your_router_here" and tell us the average ping value you see
[07:08] <albech> I am trying to make a screenshot from command line using the import tool from the imagemagick package, but it seems like something is not right with the Z-indexing of windows. All windows appear maximized and without borders at the screenshot, though it looks different on screen for some reason
[07:08] <Romance> maybe i ruined the ubuntu, installed something bad or whatever, but in speedtest the speed almost the same, only the ping so huge difference
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: I highly doubt that, if you had messed something up, you probably wouldn't get a connection at all!
[07:08] <tomahawk_> ciao
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: please run the command I specified so we can see if it's a wireless or routing problem
[07:09] <tomahawk_> italiani?????
[07:09] <fidel_> !it | tomahawk_
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> !it
[07:09] <jefimenko> is there a way to force the window manager to reload from another virtual console? (ctrl+alt+F1)
[07:10] <tomahawk_> grazie ubottu
[07:10] <jefimenko> my laptop woke up from suspend and i only see a black screen with the mouse pointer
[07:10] <Romance> DarwinSurvivor : ping 192.168.1.1 , average 1ms
[07:10] <jefimenko> the funny thing is if i move the mouse pointer around, i can tell when it hits the password input field, because the cursor becomes the text input cursor
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: ok, then it's not a wireless issue
[07:10] <Romance> yeah exactly
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> jefimenko: try blindly typing in your password and hitting enter
[07:11] <preds_> after upgrading to 12.04 I'm getting xorg using 100% of my cpu when just moving windows around the desktop, I have a high end nvidia card using the binary drivers, any suggestions where to start looking for a fix?
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: how many times did you run the test in both windows and ubuntu?
[07:11] <jefimenko> DarwinSurvivor: i tried that. it logged me in, but the screen stayed black. i could tell that it logged me in because moving the mouse cursor around hit new text fields now (like the browser URL field)
[07:11] <jefimenko> then when i suspend and wake again, it's back to the locked screen
[07:11] <jefimenko> but black
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> jefimenko: sounds like a video card driver problem
[07:12] <jefimenko> i can get to the other virtual consoles perfectly fine using alt+ctrl+f1
[07:12] <Romance> i dont know DarwinSurvivor, could be few times
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Romance: it's not uncommon for ping times to change throughout the day, try switching back and forth between the 2 OS's a few times and see if the difference is consistent. also, please try a normal ping test as speedtest is known to be biased at times. "ping google.com" is a fairly good way to test your latency
[07:13] <jefimenko> DarwinSurvivor: this happens about one in every 20 times i suspend. of course, it isn't fun when it happens because i usually have important coding projects and documents open
[07:13] <jefimenko> DarwinSurvivor: i'm on a nvidia optimus, using the open source nvidia driver
[07:13] <jefimenko> is there a way to force a compiz reload or something like that?
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> jefimenko: ok, well long-term, I'd suggest trying the binary drivers, they tend to be more stable
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> jefimenko: I don't think the problem is compiz, I think it's X itself, which is VERY difficult to reload without losing your runnig programs
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> jefimenko: do you currently have any unsaved work open?
[07:14] <jefimenko> i'm pretty sure i did
[07:14] <jefimenko> i just forgot what
[07:14] <Myrtti> DarwinSurvivor, Romance: I would try pinging the router first, to make sure it is not part of the problem
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Myrtti: already did, 1ms
[07:15] <Myrtti> ah alright
[07:19] <Fat-Thing> my volume ain't working is there a way to resolve? without restarting my pc?
[07:21] <akhil_> houw to correct partial updated 12.04 ?
[07:22] <Marzata> akhil_: update it again?
[07:24] <akhil_> Marzata: i tried it i am behind network server fire wall. it is blocking some parts . how to update it fully or to remove
[07:25] <Marzata> akhil_: sudo apt-get update
[07:25] <Marzata> akhil_: after that: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:46] <kane77> hi, I have large list of files, how do I get total of space taken?
[07:47] <mayanks43> put in a folder and see properties
[07:47] <MasterOfDisaster> kane77: du -sh <list>
[07:47] <kane77> MasterOfDisaster, the list is too long for that (~22000 files)
[07:48] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: the s part means "only give me the total"
[07:48] <MasterOfDisaster> kane77: have a look at xargs, you can sum it up yourself
[07:49] <kane77> DarwinSurvivor, well yes, but if I do du -hsc $(mylist_of_files) it fails because that's just too many arguments..
[07:49] <Fat-Thing> hi
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: don't tell it which files and it will just do the total of the current directory
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: you can even do "du -hs /path/to/my/directory"
[07:50] <kane77> DarwinSurvivor, these files are in different directories :/
[07:50] <bersam> hi everybody! i just installed my NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.34 last graphic from Nvidia,(it's not in the repos yet!). problem is ubuntu doesn't know this driver (driver is working), and it just load unity 2d as default! how can i force it to run unity?
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: I've run that command on my ENTIRE home folder (over 600GB of stuff) without issue (took a while though :P)
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: oh...
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: are they the only files in those directories?
[07:51] <kane77> DarwinSurvivor, nope, there's a ton of stuff there :)
[07:51] <fidel_> bersam: what have you selected at login?
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: ok. May I ask what types of files these are, this seems like a fairly strange request
[07:52] <Miscni> morning all
[07:53] <TBarth> How often do we get a new linux image?
[07:53] <TBarth> each week?
[07:53] <kane77> well, we have web app and these are files that were marked as deleted in the database but are not physically deleted from filesystem..
[07:53] <kane77> DarwinSurvivor, ^^
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: ah, ok. well, you could run "for i in $my_list_of_files; do ln -s $i; done" in an empty directory, then run "du -hsL" from that directory
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: just make sure you don't have any spaces in your filenames. if you do, a "while read" loop should fix it
[07:57] <kane77> Darwin4Ever, ok, got it.. cat undeleted_files | xargs du -s | cut -f 1 | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> TBarth, this is ubuntu support can you be more specific,
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: that would work as well
[07:58] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: but don't use cat, use xarg's "-a undeleted_files" argument instead
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> kane77: and since you are checking files one at a time, the -s is pointless
[08:00] <DarwinSurvivor> "xargs -a undeleted_files du -s | cut -f 1 | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'" should work a little better
[08:00] <DarwinSurvivor> oops
[08:00] <DarwinSurvivor> "xargs -a undeleted_files du | cut -f 1 | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'" should work a little better
[08:00] <DarwinSurvivor> there we go
[08:00] <sbarcteam> hi.
[08:01] <sbarcteam> I have a process of user with no permissions to write into specific folder. If I am adding user the process runs as into write enabled group, do I have to restart the process or will it be able to write the files after group membership change ?
[08:02] <sbarcteam> (question is: is there per-process caching of group/user membership?)
[08:02] <z3bra> Hi all ! I'm tryin' to use the old Vi, but I can't figure HOW. It seems that /usr/bin/vi is just the same as Vim, not just a link. Can someone help me ?
[08:02] <sbarcteam> z3bra: there is "vi mode" in vim.
[08:02] <DarwinSurvivor> sbarcteam: you will need to restart the process. and depending on how the process was started (cron, bash, etc), you may need to log out and back in again as well
[08:02] <sbarcteam> man vim.
[08:03] <sbarcteam> DarwinSurvivor: and what is the reason for that ?
[08:03] <DarwinSurvivor> sbarcteam: it's just the way it works, the kernel only checks the users' group list when they log in
[08:03] <firas> can anybody with gnome 3 pastebine his/her /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css   ?
[08:03] <z3bra> sbarcteam: I don't want to use a mode, I want to be able to use the old vi =)
[08:04] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: the mode emulates the old vi. Is there a technical reason for your request, or is it purely nostalgic?
[08:05] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: Got non technical reason btw ^^
[08:05] <z3bra> *no
[08:06] <firas> can using gnome 3(.4) pastebine his/her "/usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css"   ?
[08:07] <Fat-Thing> there's no video on my youtube page but i can hear a sound :(
[08:07] <DarwinSurvivor> firas: are you looking to restore a corrupted file?
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: I don't think the original vi has been supported (by its developers) for over 10 years, vim pretty much replaced it.
[08:08] <firas> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, i missed up the gnome-shell.css
[08:09] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: But Vi, *might* isn't a *nix default program ?
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> !find /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css
[08:09] <z3bra> Wow oO grammar...
[08:10] <z3bra> *isn't vi a default *nix program ?
[08:10] <codekK> anyone use ejabberd ??
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: if you haven't run an apt-get clean recently, there should be a copy of the file in /var/cache/apt/. look for a .deb file with "gnome-shell" in the name. open that file (it's just an archive) and it should have the original file in it :)
[08:11] <chu> z3bra: vim.tiny comes by default.
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: yes, on my arch machine I do (occasionally)
[08:11] <halakar> wow, that was amazing
[08:11] <z3bra> chu: I know that, but this is only for ubuntu.
[08:11] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, can i pm u?
[08:12] <anonymous> Hello
[08:12] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: no, please stay in the channel where others can offer solutions and ensure the advice you receive is accurate
[08:12] <codekK> Ok ok
[08:12] <Guest33377> Can I get some help ?
[08:12] <chu> z3bra: Yep, but most people would rather pack vim than vi.
[08:12] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, i configure ejabberd with LDAP auth and all run well
[08:13] <Guest33377> HELP
[08:13] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: what did you need to know (my ejabberd knowledge is not super-expansive, but I know some basics)
[08:13] <Guest33377> I AM TRYING TO INSTALL ANON OS TO ROOT
[08:13] <auronandace> Guest33377: depends what you need help with
[08:13] <Guest33377> I AM TRYING TO INSTALL ANON OS TO ROOT
[08:13] <AnnieB7803> good day
[08:13] <codekK> the problem is i need to set by default the nickname in clients like a displayName from LDAP
[08:13] <DarwinSurvivor> !caps
[08:13] <wiherek> Hi
[08:13] <Guest33377> I AM TRYING TO INSTALL ANON OS TO ROOT
[08:13] <chu> Guest33377: Ok, don't repeat your question within seconds, and the caps is total over-kill.
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> Guest33377, please turn off the cpas.
[08:13] <auronandace> Guest33377: stop it
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> caps*
[08:14] <Guest33377> Sorry sorry
[08:14] <Guest33377> There is 1600 people in here
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: sorry, that's outside my knowledge level on ejabberd unfortunately :(
[08:14] <codekK> but it only run when i do right click and more info
[08:14] <codekK> :(
[08:14] <codekK> ok np thx
[08:14] <wiherek> I am preparing IDEs for Android - which version of ubuntu should I go with? 12.04?
[08:14] <tomodo> hi
[08:14] <Guest33377> There is 1600 people in here ?
[08:14] <DJones> Guest33377: What are you trying to install
[08:14] <auronandace> Guest33377: anon os? whats that got to do with ubuntu?
[08:14] <tomodo> when I try to shutdpown I get this alert "system policy prevents restarting when tohers are logged in"
[08:14] <tomodo> how do I change that system policy?
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest33377, this is ubuntu support is anon ubuntu?
[08:14] <tomodo> org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart-multiple-users
[08:14] <Guest33377> DJones: yes it is
[08:15] <wiherek> the machines will be intel i7 with 8gb ram, so 32 or 64 bit?
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest33377, could you explain to root?
[08:15] <DJones> Guest33377: If its the "Anon OS", thats not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, you'll need to get in touch with their own support
[08:15] <Guest33377> I am trying to DDOS my own teamspeak to test some filters
[08:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest33377: please provide a link to the project's website
[08:16] <Guest33377> Which project ?
[08:16] <Guest33377> Mine, or the OS ?
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest33377: nvm, found the "Anon OS", that derivative (as DJones said) is not supported here, you will need to contact THEIR developrs
[08:17] <Guest33377> Okay, what about Backtrack 5 ?
[08:17] <chu> Not supported here either.
[08:17] <Guest33377> Because the anon developers are not reachable anymore
[08:17] <wiherek> repeating, sorry - on intel i7s with 8gb ram for android development - which ubuntu version and 32 or 64?
[08:17] <Guest33377> 64
[08:17] <DarwinSurvivor> wilee-nilee: 64
[08:17] <DJones> !backtrack | Guest33377
[08:17] <Guest33377> Is Ubuntu good for testing secuirty
[08:18] <chu> Sure.
[08:18] <Guest33377> Well what would I use ? SOme sort of python script /.
[08:18] <Guest33377> ?
[08:18] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest33377: any linux os is, really, you just need to install the security-test tools. backtrack is a popular one, but all the tools can be installed on ubuntu as well (it just isn't done for you)
[08:18] <Guest33377> Thanks alot
[08:19] <Guest33377> I just purchased a dedicated server to test out some filters
[08:19] <Guest33377> Have you ever heard of Next Generation Gaming ?
[08:19] <pc> круто
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest33377: do you have a support question? if not, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <Guest33377> Have you ever heard of Next Generation Gaming ?
[08:19] <Guest33377> Ohh
[08:20] <pc> это типа чат гигтег?
[08:20] <DarwinSurvivor> !ru | pc
[08:20] <DarwinSurvivor> pc is that russian?
[08:20] <pc> yes
[08:20] <Guest33377> Okay, what tools should I use to then ?
[08:20] <Guest33377> Okay, what tools should I use to then ?
[08:20] <pc> круто вообще)))
[08:20] <pc> \раньше пользовалсяwindows))
[08:20] <Guest33377> \jib
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> pc: this is an english channel. for help in russian, please use a russian loco's channel for support
[08:21] <pc> where my russian server? :)
[08:21] <dr_willis> Guest33377:  tools for what? and you may want to change nicks
[08:21] <ikonia> !ru | pc
[08:21] <pc> I need driver ATI video for ubuntu
[08:21] <ChrisCro> Okay
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> !ati | pc
[08:22] <pc> !ati | pc
[08:22] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:22] <dr_willis> no one ever seems to actually read the bot messages. ;)
[08:22] <chu> `ping'
[08:22] <pc> why ubuntu slow than windows 7?
[08:22] <pc> drivers video?
[08:22] <goddard> how can i find out who maintains a package?
[08:22] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:23] <dr_willis> pc i find it faster in many cases/benchmarks
[08:23] <chu> `show <package-name>' usually lists something like maintainers email.
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> !ati | pc please use this link
[08:23] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:23] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:23] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:23] <FloodBot1> ChrisCro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | ChrisCro
[08:23] <KM0201> lol, tha twas kinda clever
[08:24] <KM0201> DarwinSurvivor: lol, i think you missed his point
[08:24] <pc> where i can find russian chat?
[08:24] <goddard> is that apt-get show or something?
[08:24] <dr_willis> ati and nvidia both sort of give linux drivers support as little effort as they can get away with it seems
[08:24] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:24] <KM0201> !ru | pc
[08:24] <pc> i full noob in ubuntu)
[08:24] <goddard> chu: or you mean nhm?
[08:24] <DarwinSurvivor> pc: #ubuntu-ru
[08:24] <chu> goddard: Yeah, sorry. `apt-cache show' (doesn't need root privs)
[08:24] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:24] <pc> where i must to print this?
[08:25] <KM0201> pc: just type "/j #ubuntu-ru" w/o quotes
[08:25] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:25] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:25] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:25] <FloodBot1> ChrisCro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <dr_willis> ChrisCro:  most of us have you on ignore by now. you may want to reserch some security sites
[08:25] <Myrtti> ChrisCro: please have patience, you don't get more people to answer your question by repeating it like that. Next one will get you removed.
[08:25] <pc> thank you
[08:25] <spleenman> ChrisCro: I think you should run an IRC server and ask your question over and over.
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> ChrisCro: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for application suggestions, and STOP spamming this channel repeatedly!
[08:25] <goddard> whats going on here?
[08:25] <KM0201> spleenman: lol, that response wins
[08:25] <spleenman> To answer your question, the simplest way to flood a server is with the flood switch with the ping program.
[08:25] <FloodBot1> ChrisCro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:26] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:26] <ChrisCro> SO what tool should I use to DDOS my own server to test some filters ?
[08:26] <chu> Bye
[08:26] <pc> I going to russian channel but message: Cannot send to channel
[08:26] <spleenman> Just when I answered too
[08:26] <pc> Cannot send to channel
[08:26] <KM0201> pc: its working fine for me
[08:26] <dr_willis> no big loss
[08:26] <spleenman> obviously
[08:26] <mosayeb> where is apt package database stored? i mean the files which are downloaded by apt-get update
[08:26] <DarwinSurvivor> pc: you may need to register your username with FreeNode
[08:27] <dr_willis> mosayeb:  /var/cache/apt i think
[08:27] <pc> what is freenode?
[08:27] <fidel_> pc: this irc network
[08:27] <KM0201> pc: then network you're on
[08:27] <KM0201> !register | pc
[08:27] <pc> one minute,  i open translator ;)
[08:27] <DarwinSurvivor> pc: hmm, nvm, I can't send to it either
[08:27] <DarwinSurvivor> KM0201: they seem to have their channel locked (I'm registered and can't talk either)
[08:27] <goddard> I was thinking about helping package something or at least make sure we always have the latest version in the repos is that even possible in ubuntu?
[08:28] <ttl-> in 12.04 => sound settings: Selecting my bluetooth headset as input device makes sound settings crash, syslog shows: kernel: [ 3198.661585] gnome-control-c[8857]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fa606111da1 sp 00007fff633cf320 error 4 in libsoundnua.so[7fa6060f0000+31000]
[08:28] <chu> Yep.
[08:28] <KM0201> DarwinSurvivor: i jsut said something, and it seems to have worked
[08:28] <Myrtti> DarwinSurvivor: you don't appear to be identified tho
[08:28] <dr_willis> goddard:  make a ppa for whatever it is yuou want to package
[08:28] <auronandace> !latest | goddard
[08:29] <pc> #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[08:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Myrtti: strange, my channel does show #ubuntu-unregged, but I have identified with NickServ, weird...
[08:29] <goddard> how does a package get in the main repos?
[08:29] <Myrtti> DarwinSurvivor: well, you're not identified now.
[08:29] <DarwinSurvivor> goddard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[08:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Myrtti: gah, must figure out why identification is not working :(
[08:29] <pc> cannot send to channel what I should make?
[08:30] <pc> where in ubuntu config network?
[08:30] <fidel_> pc: you must be authed to speak in that .ru channel
[08:31] <fidel_> pc: please read the instructions made above
[08:31] <pc> why i cant to install official ati-amd driver fo video for ubuntu ?
[08:31] <pc> file with resolution .run
[08:31] <pc> .run
[08:31] <goddard> pc: get in run level 3 ?
[08:31] <goddard> telinit 3
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> pc: DO NOT use .run installers!!! 90% of the time they DESTROY linux computers!
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> !ati | pc
[08:32] <DarwinSurvivor> pc please use the instructions at on that link
[08:32] <pc> how i can to install video driver noting console ?
[08:32] <goddard> sudo service lightdm stop
[08:32] <goddard> chmod +x .run
[08:32] <goddard> sudo ./.run
[08:32] <DarwinSurvivor> goddard: please don't advise users to install .run files, they are *extremely* dangerous, especially if you don't know where they came from!
[08:33] <pc> where i can to write command?
[08:33] <spleenman> notice that you're giving anything in that .run file su access to your system
[08:33] <pc> where console?
[08:33] <pc> on ubuntu?
[08:33] <DarwinSurvivor> pc: please do not use the .run file. please use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[08:33] <goddard> after you stop lightdm you will be at a command prompt
[08:34] <brainwave> ping brainwave
[08:35] <goddard> for a package if it looks like the actual developer is the maintainer what does that mean?
[08:35] <pc> ok, I established ubuntu, what I should make now?
[08:35] <ttl-> brainwave: Ping reply from brainwave: 0.23 second(s)
[08:35] <fidel_> pc: what do you mean by 'established'?
[08:35] <spleenman> I would think it means that the developer is the one who is building the code and keeping it current in the repository
[08:36] <goddard> pc: pc buddy you should really watch a video tutorial or something
[08:36] <goddard> spleenman: so if the developer wants he can send an update to all the people that have it installed on ubuntu?
[08:37] <pc> established = install
[08:37] <fidel_> !elaborate > pc
[08:37] <goddard> does jocky work with ATI drivers?
[08:38] <spleenman> I don't know the specific procedure for package maintnence in the Ubuntu system
[08:38] <goddard> ahh ok
[08:38] <spleenman> Depending on what you mean by "maintainer"
[08:38] <spleenman> Are you talking about a package maintainer or a developer-maintainer?
[08:38] <goddard> i just looked at the package maintainer
[08:38] <goddard> the package maintainer is the developer in this case
[08:39] <spleenman> So in that case the developer is the one who creates new patches and pushes them into the live repositories
[08:40] <spleenman> That's what the maintainers do, in general, in addition to some other duties
[08:40] <spleenman> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[08:40] <anom> Can anyone tell me why my cronjob isn't working? http://pastebin.com/12aEkkYN
[08:40] <goddard> ok
[08:40] <spleenman> That is linked to by the ubuntu maintainer's manual, so I assume your questions can be answered there
[08:42] <danny_> danny@shiela:~$ type cp    cp is hashed (/bin/cp) ......... what is hashed ?
[08:43] <DarwinSurvivor> anom: which one isn't working?
[08:43] <anom> DarwinSurvivor: none of them, as far as I can tell.
[08:43] <DarwinSurvivor> anom: what's with the quotes?
[08:44] <anom> DarwinSurvivor, Are they incorrect? I got them off a tutorial/guide
[08:47] <AdvoWork> just updated ubuntu, and in chrome i try and upload a file via a website, It keeps putting the files in old modified by date, rather than the latest at the top. I can click Modiifed which swaps it around, but it doesn't remember the setting. Any ideas please?
[08:49] <scheuri> hi all
[08:49] <spleenman> danny_: still here?
[08:49] <danny_> spleenman: yes
[08:49] <yandex38> Hello
[08:49] <spleenman> danny_: that means the command "cp" has been stored in the bash commands hash table
[08:50] <scheuri> question: I installed 12.04 on VMware ESX with one network interface which is listed in ifconfig...then I added three more and rebooted the system, but they dont show up in ifconfig...someone can give me a hint what I am missing?
[08:50] <spleenman> danny_: so the shell doesn't have to search through $PATH every time you run the command
[08:50] <danny_> spleenman: ahh ok that makes sense now thanks
[08:51] <pc_> п
[08:52] <pc_> как зайти на русский канал, если пишет cannot to send
[08:52] <fidel_> !ru > pc
[08:52] <fidel_> !ru > pc_
[08:52] <pc_> !ru
[08:52] <Marzata> но но
[08:52] <kandinski> I'm having trouble coming back from suspend on my Lenovo x220, which I didn't have before Precise, anybody knows if it's a known issue?
[08:52] <Marzata> русский канал не постоит
[08:53] <kandinski> basically X is a black screen, and I can't see anything
[08:53] <Marzata> пишите здесь
[08:53] <pc_> lf gbie
[08:53] <pc_> да пишу
[08:53] <pc_> не получается
[08:53] <fidel_> pc_: stick to english inhere
[08:53] <FloodBot1> pc_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <Marzata> почему?
[08:53] <pc_> а вообще нахрена нужны эти каналы?
[08:53] <pc_> что они дают?
[08:53] <scheuri> kandinski, did you try to press the power button after opening the lid again?
[08:53] <fidel_> pc_: there is a russion channel - we mentioned already what you have to do to be able to speak there
[08:53] <Marzata> ну блин, пиндосы здесь только
[08:53] <fidel_> !register > pc_
[08:53] <pc_> нет, вообще я полный нуб
[08:54] <pc_> в убунту
[08:54] <kandinski> scheuri: I can see the cursor, so it's alive
[08:54] <Marzata> fidel_: that channel is closed
[08:54] <fidel_> Marzata: it isnt
[08:54] <kandinski> just everything except th ecursor is black
[08:54] <pc_> я не понимаю что здесь как и зачем даже до конца не понимаю нафига я ее установил
[08:54] <pc_> с чего мне начать?
[08:54] <FloodBot1> pc_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <fidel_> Marzata: i tested it 10 minutes ago - apart from that - this channel is english
[08:54] <scheuri> kandinski, ah, okay....well sorry....I have a x220 as well, but have not yet installed precise...sorry I can not be of more help
[08:54] <Marzata> fidel_: try to post there
[08:54] <fidel_> Marzata: it works man
[08:54] <kandinski> scheuri: I am irc-ing from that sameself computer, only from a tty console
[08:54] <pc_> марзата
[08:54] <kandinski> or a console tty
[08:55] <Marzata> fidel_: this channel is international
[08:55] <scheuri> kandinski, ah, so its "only" the X that is freezing?
[08:55] <fidel_> Marzata: you and pc_ are simply ignoring our advice how to be able to speak there
[08:55] <pc_> марзата почеум пишет cannot to send..
[08:55] <kandinski> scheuri: yes, the computer is working
[08:55] <pc_> fidel i dont understand you
[08:55] <fidel_> pc_: 3rd time - you must be registered in freenode
[08:55] <Marzata> fidel_: don't be that racist
[08:55] <fidel_> !register > pc
[08:55] <fidel_> !register > pc_
[08:55] <kandinski> scheuri: and usable, but I can't see anything on the X tty
[08:56] <scheuri> kandinski, uhmm...maybe an issue with the intel driver? I do not know what version precise comes along with and if there is a newer one...
[08:56] <pc_> о
[08:56] <pc_> не получается, пишу /nick бесполезно
[08:56] <fidel_> Marzata: i'm not a racist - i am just trying to point out that there is a sense in the fact that channels try to focus on a specific language
[08:56] <scheuri> kandinski, and I am afraid I do not know what else might be connected with that issue (ACPI and such)
[08:56] <kandinski> scheuri: only tty7 is unusable
[08:57] <Marzata> fidel_: you are in fact, he is a new to linux. and yes, you are a racist.
[08:57] <scheuri> kandinski, well, my guess is that after suspending the intel driver for the display/graphics has an issue....but that is just a gues
[08:57] <DarwinSurvivor> !english | Marzata
[08:58] <scheuri> Marzata, he is a racist by pointing out that there are specific channels for specific languages which are better suited??? Please....
[08:58] <fidel_> Marzata: welcome to /IGNORE
[08:58] <scheuri> question: I installed 12.04 on VMware ESX with one network interface which is listed in ifconfig...then I added three more and rebooted the system, but they dont show up in ifconfig (they do in lspci)...someone can give me a hint what I am missing?
[08:58] <devil_dodger> السلام عليكم
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> !india | devil_dodger
[08:59] <Marzata> scheuri: he is.
[08:59] <pc_> windows 7 more better than ubuntu
[08:59] <pc_> no head ill
[08:59] <ikonia> scheuri: if you do an ifconfig -a do you see them
[08:59] <ikonia> pc_: great, thanks, you're welcome to use Windows
[08:59] <pc_> no head pain
[08:59] <ikonia> pc_: do you need help with Ubuntu ?
[08:59] <scheuri> ikonia, stupid me, yes...yes I do see them
[09:00] <ikonia> scheuri: there you go
[09:00] <scheuri> ikonia, thanks a lot....mea culpa....the easiest step I missed
[09:00] <kandinski> Marzata, first, learn not to call people names
[09:00] <ikonia> scheuri: not a problem
[09:00] <kandinski> some people do racist thing sometimes, calling someone a racist is escalating unnecessarily
[09:00] <ikonia> ok - enough
[09:01] <ikonia> channel is English ubuntu support discussion, anything else is not for this channel
[09:01] <Marzata> kandinski: first what?
[09:01] <kandinski> Marzata: second, what everybody said. If I answered the queries of everyone who comes here talking Spanish, guess what?
[09:01] <kandinski> ikonia: finished
[09:02] <kandinski> scheuri: it bugs me having to restart
[09:02] <Marzata> kandinski: you mean proper Spanish from Latin America?
[09:03] <kandinski> Marzata: nice try
[09:03] <scheuri> kandinski, I absolutely understand....would bugging me too...but as I said...I dont have precise yet installed..but my best guess is a wake up issue with the drivers...
[09:03] <kandinski> scheuri: thanks
[09:03] <kandinski> I will upgrade again
[09:03] <scheuri> kandinski, sorry I was not of more help...maybe an update of the display drivers might do as well....
[09:04] <kandinski> but having to restart makes me feel dirty, like I'm using windows or something
[09:05] <ikonia> kandinski: please don't be stupid, restarts are perfectly acceptable, linux needs restarts just as windows does
[09:05] <kandinski> ikonia, this is everytime I come back from suspend
[09:06] <ikonia> kandinski: yes ?
[09:06] <mouche> I went to file a misspelling bug, and the note on the reporting bugs page says those go under translations. In the linked translations section, it says that section is only for misspellings in languages other than English.
[09:06] <kandinski> also please don't call people names. I was joking, not being stupid.
[09:06] <ikonia> kandinski: then please don't joke around and slate Windows
[09:06] <kandinski> a restart everytime the laptop comes back from suspend is unacceptable. It is akin to not having suspend.
[09:06] <ikonia> kandinski: I agree it's not acceptable at all
[09:07] <kandinski> actually, it's being more like one time in three. Still, not nice.
[09:07]  * kandinski goes to restart
[09:07] <kandinski> bye for now
[09:11] <iIlL0oO> how to install fvwm on 12.04
[09:11] <TBarth> ikona, normaly a linux system runs for years without any restarts. But ubuntu is no server system
[09:11] <DarwinSurvivor> iIlL0oO: just install it from the software center
[09:12] <scheuri> question: with aptitude we had the parameter search to go through the package list...any equivalent on apt-get? or on the console in general?
[09:12] <llutz> scheuri: apt-cache search pattern      or what do you look for?
[09:13] <numberto> Hi, how can I add skypetab-ng and pidgin to startup. ubuntu 12.04
[09:13] <scheuri> llutz, well, as I said...with aptitude serach XYZ I was able to search the package database for XYZ...apt-get didnt have that and you are right...apt-cache is the keyword :)
[09:14] <scheuri> llutz, thanks a lot
[09:14] <DarwinSurvivor> !startup
[09:14] <iIlL0oO> DarwinSurvivor: then use lightdm or gdm ?
[09:14] <DarwinSurvivor> oh wow, that is *really* out of date....... :|
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> iIlL0oO: which-ever you are using, there should be a small icon next to your name, click on it and there should be a drop-down that will allow you to use fvwm
[09:16] <iIlL0oO> DarwinSurvivor: thankyou , I'll try
[09:16] <scheuri> thanks everyone for your help
[09:17] <paopao> Help! Is there any unofficial sources of Ubuntu, because the official support of Ubuntu10.10 is out of date.
[09:17] <jrib> paopao: why don't you upgrade to a supported version?
[09:17] <paopao> And I can't update my system now
[09:17] <DarwinSurvivor> !eol
[09:18] <devil_dodger>  /msg NickServ identify fchsgtdN13
[09:19] <llutz> time for a new password devil_dodger
[09:19] <paopao> jrib,Because I like this version, and it took a lot of time for me to decorate it, this version is just really good
[09:19] <ikonia> TBarth: a linux system of any distro will require reboots
[09:19] <jrib> paopao: you're not getting security updates with it; you need to upgrade
[09:19] <skylined101> I need to install mysql 5.1 on ubuntu 12.04
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> paopao: you are free to continue using it, however there are no longer ANY security updates for it (which is BAD for you) and a lot of the software (ex: gnome-2) is no longer supported either
[09:20] <ikonia> !info mysql-server
[09:20] <dr_willis> 'to decorate it'? you pur stickers on the case?
[09:20] <ikonia> skylined101: mysql 5.5 is the release for 12.04
[09:20] <skylined101> i need to downgrade
[09:20] <TBarth> ikonia, I expect from a linux system such as Ubuntu _LTS_, that I don't need to restart it each week.
[09:20] <ikonia> skylined101: there isn't a release
[09:20] <ikonia> TBarth: then your expectations are wrong
[09:20] <paopao> :'(
[09:21] <paopao> So there is no unofficial support?
[09:21] <jrib> TBarth: generally a restart is only required when you get a new kernel
[09:21] <ikonia> paopao: official support for what ?
[09:21] <TBarth> ikonia, you re not a system administrator
[09:21] <jrib> paopao: no official support for 10.10, correct
[09:21] <dr_willis> paopao:  makes me wonder what 'unofficial support' would do exactly
[09:21] <ikonia> TBarth: actually I am
[09:21] <DarwinSurvivor> paopao: 10.04 is still supported (LTS) until 2015. it's 1 version behind what you have now, but it should have gnome-2 at the very least
[09:21] <obelus> devil_dodger: please see your PM
[09:21] <paopao> ikonia, the sources of ubuntu
[09:21] <ktchk> try linuxcnc 10.04 lts rtai patched ubuntu
[09:21] <ikonia> ktchk: what ?
[09:21] <TBarth> ikonia, may be a windows system administrator
[09:21] <Transhumanist> If I install Windows after Ubuntu, will the GRUB bootloader be erased? I want to use WINE.
[09:21] <ikonia> TBarth: no
[09:22] <ktchk> ikonia: i am using it
[09:22] <ikonia> Transhumanist: yes, you'll need to re-apply grub
[09:22] <dr_willis> Transhumanist:  you will need to reinstall grub. and wine does not need windows installed
[09:22] <jrib> DarwinSurvivor: 10.04 is only supported until April 2013 on the desktop
[09:22] <Transhumanist> is that a difficult task?
[09:22] <ikonia> ktchk: so ? why are you telling us this ?
[09:22] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[09:22] <ikonia> Transhumanist: not really, but if you don't read the instructions it can go wrong
[09:22] <yandex38> jrib: Is that all? Windows XP was supported for wayyyy longer
[09:23] <ktchk> ikonia: my 10.04 do not need reboot weeky
[09:23] <yandex38> It's bad that even an LTS only gets 3 years support
[09:23] <DarwinSurvivor> paopao: oops, jrib is correct, it's only the server version that's supported until 2015, the desktop version is supported until april, 2013
[09:23] <Transhumanist> Thanks! What about things like DirectX? Does WINE need Windoze installed to use that in games? I thought WINE required some Windows files, but I am hazy on the details.
[09:23] <KM0201> yandex38: i thought the new LTS's got 5 now
[09:23] <jrib> yandex38: do you have a support question?
[09:23] <KM0201> !lts
[09:23] <paopao> unofficial support means you can update by other sources which are made by some volunteers.
[09:23] <Transhumanist> I suppose the games would just use OpenGL
[09:23] <ikonia> ktchk: I know, ubuntu 10.04 doesn't need weekly reboots, I believe TBarth was being facicious
[09:23] <richardlxc> hello
[09:23] <yandex38> jrib: Not at this time
[09:23] <richardlxc> my wirless card don't work
[09:23] <jrib> yandex38: ok
[09:23] <dr_willis> Transhumanist:  wind does NOT need windows installed anywhere on the system
[09:24] <KM0201> richardlxc: whats the chipset
[09:24] <Transhumanist> Sweet.
[09:25] <richardlxc> KM0201: i use command "lshw -C network" and  *-network UNCLAIMED
[09:25] <richardlxc>        description: Network controller
[09:25] <richardlxc>        product: RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller
[09:25] <richardlxc>  
[09:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Transhumanist: if you find that wine does not work for you, you can also install windows inside a virtual machine (I do this for my school-required win32 stuff)
[09:25] <richardlxc> *-network UNCLAIMED
[09:25] <Zit> меня видно?
[09:25] <richardlxc> how to solve
[09:25] <dr_willis> Transhumanist:  how well wine works - will depend on what you want to run in wine also.
[09:25] <TBarth> ikonia, in the last month of ubuntu 10 LTS I got a new kernel once a week
[09:26] <richardlxc> anyone can help me?
[09:26] <ikonia> TBarth: I doubt that, but "ok", and to be honest if you did, that's an exception to th enorm
[09:26] <Transhumanist> What package do you recommend for installing Windows in a VM?
[09:26] <DarwinSurvivor> !ru | zit
[09:26] <TBarth> Last friday I switched my desktop from Ubuntu 10 LTS to 12 LTS
[09:26] <dr_willis> !vbox | Transhumanist
[09:26] <Byly> hi
[09:27] <Transhumanist> Excellent!
[09:27] <dr_willis> Transhumanist:  if you are that set on 'windows' then you should just dual boot
[09:27] <DarwinSurvivor> TBarth: just because a new kernel is available, does not mean you have to use it. servers that are left on for years on end don't get their kernels updated (they are working on a fix for this though, I think fedora is experimenting with it)
[09:28] <Zit> а что здесь люди сидят?
[09:28] <Byly> i have a problem with this command  "find . -mtime +2 -exec rm  {} \;"  allways try to delete the "." file but it cant because is a directory, the thing is that i dont want to delete it, i only want to delelete the files that was created 2 days ago....
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Zit: please use #ubuntu-ru for russian support
[09:28] <oceanicice> Hello, all.
[09:28] <UltraSub> Haii
[09:28] <Transhumanist> dr_willis: I hate Windows. But certain apps I need for university may not run under Ubuntu
[09:29] <Zit> DarwinSurvivor ubuntu-ru не работает!
[09:29] <Transhumanist> the VM solutions sounds great
[09:29] <richardlxc> sudo lshw -C network *-network UNCLAIMED     description: Network controller
[09:29] <richardlxc>        product: RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller
[09:29] <richardlxc>  
[09:29] <TBarth> DarwinSurvivor, how can I exclude a kernel update when using the command "aptitude safe-upgrade"
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Byly: try specifying files only, or use * instead of .
[09:29] <jrib> Byly: -type f ?
[09:29] <UltraSub> Why i cannot install open shot?
[09:30] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  any error messages?
[09:30] <Byly> thx for the answers, the thing is that the files was diferent names
[09:30] <jenamithran> how can i install the brocken packages
[09:30] <jrib> Byly: what?
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> TBarth: I don't use the GUI updater, but I believe there is a simple checkbox. alternatively, you can install the new kernel and just not reboot, the old kernel will be left in until then
[09:30] <jrib> jenamithran: be more specific...
[09:30] <UltraSub> Gtk2-engine-pixbuf
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> !details
[09:31] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  you need to be a bit more verbose in your details...
[09:31] <Byly> the option -f is for force, no? i i dont waht to delete the . file
[09:31] <DarwinSurvivor> Byly: "-type f" means "only stuff that is of type 'file' "
[09:31] <UltraSub> I install using .Deb and an error message
[09:32] <dr_willis> can you delete the . file?
[09:32] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: um, that would be the current directory....
[09:32] <wordToDaBird[Lap> i have a windows 7 box with a virus on it.  I also have the drive partitioned with ubuntu.  I want to make an .iso image of the windows 7 box so I can start it in virtual box and analyze what the virus does.  Can I do that through/with software on ubuntu or do I have to make the iso image from within windows?
[09:32] <jrib> dr_willis: depends how hard you try I imagine :P
[09:32] <jenamithran> jrib: there are some pakages interrupted while downloading how can itheresumed or removed
[09:32] <Byly> ah ok you said in find?
[09:32] <jrib> jenamithran: pastebin exactly what is happening
[09:32] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  why use the deb? why not use the package manager.    you could try 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'
[09:32] <DarwinSurvivor> wordToDaBird[Lap: ok, that's 2 steps, so lets start with the first
[09:33] <DarwinSurvivor> wordToDaBird[Lap: how big is your windows partition and how much empty space do you have on your ubuntu partition (or an external HDD if that's what you plan to use)?
[09:33] <wordToDaBird[Lap> Darwin4Ever, I have virtualbox setup already on another pc
[09:33] <TBarth> btw, I ve still running servers (hp proliants) with debian sarge (behind a firewall of course, no restarts since 2006 :-)
[09:33] <UltraSub> I have no more repo. I only have ubuntu desktop 12.04 cd
[09:34] <wordToDaBird[Lap> I can hold it on my external hdd and more than enough to hold the iso.  It'll be a pain in the ass to move around but I can do it.
[09:34] <remoteCTRL> ma kubuntu somewhat totally ignores my file type associations?
[09:34] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  its connected to the internet?
[09:34] <DarwinSurvivor> wordToDaBird[Lap: ok, do you know how to back up the partition using dd?
[09:34] <UltraSub> No internet connection
[09:34] <wordToDaBird[Lap> no, but I can figure it out.  two secs
[09:34] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  you should include such facts to begin with.
[09:35] <Byly> thx i think that it will be fix with find .  -type f -mtime +X -exec rm -rf {} \;
[09:35] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  if the .deb depends on other packages you need to install them all
[09:35] <Zit> а почему никт оне пишут в ubuntu-ru?
[09:35] <wordToDaBird[Lap>  DarwinSurvivor tyvm, just found what I was looking for on google.
[09:35] <Byly> i will test in 3 min
[09:35] <jrib> Byly: hmm, when is mtime update on directories?  Are you sure that's what you want to do?
[09:35] <DarwinSurvivor> wordToDaBird[Lap: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/home/my_username/windows_backup.iso"
[09:35] <wordToDaBird[Lap> that was the magic phrase I was missing, wasn't thinking about using dd to do it.  didn't know it had any ability for writing .iso files
[09:35] <UltraSub> Can u show me what should i download to install any multimedia software?
[09:36] <DarwinSurvivor> wordToDaBird[Lap: check out https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows once you have the partition backed up
[09:36] <wordToDaBird[Lap> ty
[09:36] <DarwinSurvivor> wordToDaBird[Lap: also, as soon as you get it transfered, take a snapshot of it with virtualbox, then you can roll it back if you need to
[09:36] <llutz> Byly: find .  -type f -mtime +X -delete                    if you want to delete files only, why "rm -rf"?
[09:36] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  totally depends on the specific packages. id suggest hooking up to the internet somehow. otherwise you got a lot of work ahead of you
[09:36] <Byly> thx i think that it will be fix with find .  -type f -mtime +2 -exec rm  {} \;
[09:36] <Byly> sorry...
[09:36] <Byly> this
[09:38] <Byly> but i will test with -mmin +2 instead -mtime +2 in order that i can delete files that i created 2 min ago for test
[09:38] <dr_willis> i always test with -exec echo {}
[09:39] <Byly> yeah its run
[09:39] <Byly> thx for your help
[09:39] <UltraSub> Actually, i just want to install open shot on my ubuntu
[09:40] <dr_willis> !info openshot
[09:40] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  i bet it will have a lot of dependencies
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> openshot is nice to use
[09:41] <dr_willis> i need to find a tool that makes easy to just 'cut/split' movies into seperate files. i  got a lot of home videois i need to just cut apart. so i an sort the clips
[09:41] <dr_willis> having to load/cut/paste/save/rename  - is a but of a bother on a 5gb movie file..
[09:42] <Byly> i tested with files to be 100% sure that run, i created stupid 3 stupid files with a script...
[09:42] <Byly> extra easy script....
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  openshot can do that
[09:42] <DragonSlay> what is 12.4% contiguous ?? fsck throws this o/p in boot screen
[09:42] <dr_willis> got a 'cut here' and save both parts  button? ;)
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  it's called 'slice all clips', when you right click on the timeline's marker
[09:43] <Zit> кто нибудь играл в alan wake?
[09:43] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  so it can do all the cuts at once.. even better
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[09:44] <UltraSub> Should i install gtk2-
[09:44] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  if the apps need it.. yes.  not sure what you are really asking .. the apps need what they need
[09:44] <notze> if got a ubuntu vm running
[09:44] <jenamithran> jrib: i have some partial updates dueto the network fire wall how can i remove these partial updates
[09:44] <notze> its nice
[09:45] <jrib> jenamithran: you're being too vague for me to advise you.  I've asked you to pastebin the actual errors/messages you are seeing
[09:45] <notze> but as soon as i add a bridge the ssh doesnt work anymore
[09:45] <notze> what can be the reason
[09:46] <UltraSub> Yes, coz when i install openshot, the message is about that package
[09:46] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  it has dependencies it needs..so yes.. you need them ALL
[09:46] <UltraSub> Ok. Thanks.
[09:46] <samuel> is that linux on my samsung voria??
[09:46] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  i would guess it depends on severa dozen other pckges
[09:47] <voRia> samuel: yes, it's me
[09:48] <samuel> cool beans, i'd just like to say thanks for the ppa, you made it possible for me to run my n150 netbook on just everything from lucid up to present
[09:48] <UltraSub> Next problem for me : i cant play mp3 file. Error message is about phyton
[09:49] <jrib> UltraSub: pastebin the actual error
[09:49] <voRia> glad to hear that, you're welcome :)
[09:51] <DragonSlay> !ping
[09:52] <UltraSub> Phyton (v.2.7) requires to install plug in to play media file
[09:52] <samuel> long shot; does anyone knows about customising the visual appearance of unity? specifically the labelling of the desktop
[09:52] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  theres several packages you need to insgtall to get mp3 playback for various legal reasons
[09:53] <UltraSub> What package?
[09:53] <samuel> i want to change the way that the desktop is labelled in unity, ie "ubuntu desktop" to something else
[09:53] <dr_willis> no idea. i let the package manager instgall them automatically at install UltraSub
[09:53] <dr_willis> theres a nice little check box when youi start the installer that lets the system download them.
[09:54] <dr_willis> samuel:  what label where?
[09:55] <UltraSub> How about install another player such as Vlc player using. deb
[09:56] <samuel> in the top panel, when you are on the desktop, it says "Ubuntu Desktop"
[09:56] <samuel> i want to change that
[09:56] <TBarth> samuel, edit /etc/hostname
[09:56] <UltraSub> Coz my ubuntu is not connect internet
[09:56] <samuel> TBarth, thankyouthankyou!
[09:57] <dr_willis> UltraSub:  the way the pacakge system works will make that hard for you.
[09:57] <dr_willis> unless you spend a lot of time downloading .debs or have another linux system handy
[09:58] <pku> Hello and goodevening to all... its been since last night am trying to install my graphic drivers on my laptop without any luck can someone please help me out ?
[09:58] <samuel> pku, do you know what card you have?
[09:59] <dr_willis> pku - your gfx chipset is? is it an optimus system?
[09:59] <samuel> optimus is a bit of a longshot, those are expensive!
[09:59] <dr_willis> samuel:  from what i gather they are getting more commonplace every month
[10:00] <pku> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:00] <dr_willis> they seem REAL common in here when someone mentions graphics problems
[10:00] <samuel> oh dear, really? i havnt seen them for sale
[10:00] <pku> am bigginger in ubuntu so ... :P
[10:00] <samuel> pku, i'm pretty sure those are loaded automatically
[10:00] <pku> how can i check it?
[10:00] <samuel> intel's drivers are open source so they tend to be included in the linux kernel
[10:00] <pku> cause i think its not
[10:01] <dr_willis> pku:  whats the actual gfx problem you are having?
[10:01] <codekK> anyone is using ejabberd???
[10:01] <firas> does anybody in here use/have gnome 3?
[10:01] <codekK> firas, i have what problem u have?
[10:01] <dr_willis> firas:  12.04 came with gnome3
[10:02] <firas> codekK: dr_willis: can u pastebin /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css  ?
[10:02] <wordToDaBird[Lap> !notunity
[10:02] <dr_willis> firas:  nope. not on a ubuntu box right now
[10:03] <dr_willis> !find gnome-shell.css
[10:03] <pku> dr_willis gnome-shell-common
[10:03] <pku> * Stanley00 (~Stanley00@unaffiliated/stanley00) has joined #ubuntu
[10:03] <codekK> firas, just reinstall gnome-shell
[10:03] <dr_willis> its in that package. if you need to reinstall it.
[10:04] <dr_willis> !find is-pku-a-bot
[10:04] <firas> codekK: i did that with "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" but the problem wasn't fixed
[10:04] <samuel> ok i have annother query, this time regarding light dm, can i customise the icons that ubuntu labels each session with?
[10:04] <pku> am not a bot :/
[10:04] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:04] <codekK> firas, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell-common
[10:04] <pku> am trying to figure out whats wrong lol
[10:04] <dr_willis> you replied befor the bot did to my ! trigger
[10:05] <pku> lsmod | grep video shows me some thinks is it normal ?
[10:05] <pku> uvcvideo               67203  0
[10:05] <pku> videodev               86588  1 uvcvideo
[10:05] <pku> video                  19068  1 i915
[10:05] <dr_willis> samuel:  each session is defined by a .desktop file  look in there and see if they have an icon setting
[10:06] <Ink> Hi
[10:06] <firas> codekK: thnx
[10:06] <codekK> firas, u fix it?
[10:06] <dr_willis> i915 is an intel video chipset isent it?
[10:06] <Ink> can some help a noob?
[10:06] <samuel> thanks dr_willis, i will check that out
[10:06] <ikonia> Ink: if you ask a question, we can try to help you
[10:06] <codekK> Ink, write u problem, dont ask for help
[10:07] <firas> codekK: yes, it was messed up because i tried to add transperancy top the panel, do you have any idea how to do it?
[10:07] <Ink> LRIGHT I DOWNLOADED UBUNTU ONTO MY LAPTO FOR A DUAL LOG AND IT WONT FIND MY DRIVERS
[10:07] <codekK> firas, i dont use shell but i think is like gnome3 classic
[10:07] <dr_willis> itss amazeing how much people break when trying to 'tweak'  their themes/icons/look
[10:08] <codekK> u need ALT + right click on panel, then properities
[10:08] <codekK> and background
[10:08] <dr_willis> Ink:  lower case please.. and drivers for what?
[10:08] <firas> codekK: ok thnx
[10:08] <codekK> firas, np
[10:08] <Ink> SORRY DIDNT REALISE i HAD HIT CAPS
[10:08] <Ink> stupid laptop
[10:08] <Ink> my internet,
[10:09] <dr_willis> you mean your wireless card?
[10:09] <Ink> I tried everything according to my ubuntu using friends and it wont work
[10:09] <Ink> even with ethernet cord it does work
[10:09] <Wizard> :D
[10:09] <Ink> doesnt*
[10:10] <dr_willis> you got deep issues if a wired connection dosent work.. or you just neeeded to activate wired connection in the network manager icon
[10:10] <stueng> id like to make a simple script which asked for two variables and then created another script containing these two variables. Anyone fancy helping me with this or point me in teh right direction ?
[10:10] <pku> dr_willis am trying to play diablo 3 from "playonlinux" and the debugginf console says that opengl does not exist any thought m8 ?
[10:10] <dr_willis> !abs | stueng
[10:10] <codekK> pku, are u use nvidia drivers? or noveau?
[10:10] <pku> intel
[10:10] <dr_willis> pku:  wine and games that just came out this week.. that may have oodles of copy protection in them.. is not a good combo
[10:11] <stueng> thanks.. I think, ill see how confused I get dr_willis
[10:11] <pku> am pretty sure that many ppl play diablo3 from playonlinux
[10:11] <samuel> pku check what version of opengl diablo3 requires
[10:11] <samuel> it might be that the intel chip doesnt support that version of it
[10:11] <pku> samuel 1 sec
[10:11] <dr_willis> no idea.  im not one of them
[10:12] <Ink> I tried that Dr Willis,
[10:12] <Ink> I am gonna come back with the laptop relogged
[10:12] <dr_willis> im so sick of the D3 marketing hype.. i dont even want the game. ;)
[10:13] <Hyperbyte> Hi.  Plantronics DA45 adapter for headsets crashes X on Ubuntu 12.04
[10:13] <stueng> if my script has a mkdir command and the directory already exists, by deafult will the script terminate?
[10:13] <stueng> without any error handling?
[10:13] <Hyperbyte> I will file a bug report out this, but I would really like a temporary fix.
[10:14] <Wizard> Is there a possibility to integrate Java Swing with Globalmenu?
[10:14] <dr_willis> stueng:  make a  script that does it and see what happens
[10:14] <pku> samuel i think its 3.0
[10:14] <stueng> true
[10:14] <pku> how do i check if i have it and if i can use  it ?
[10:14] <samuel> now what version does diablo require
[10:14] <pku> its the diablo i think requires 3.0
[10:15] <wordToDaBird[Lap> the gnome-shell isn't in the normal apt-get repository is there a special repo I need to add to get it?
[10:15] <llutz> stueng: "mkdir -p"
[10:15] <TBarth> The version 3 of games seems to very important in the momement: MassEffect 3, MaxPayne 3, BF3, D3... :)
[10:15] <Hyperbyte> This is the whole Xorg log file:  http://dev.hfive.nl/Xorg.7.log  If I read this correctly, the Plantronics DA45 crashes on the evdev module.
[10:15] <LjL> !info gnome-shell
[10:15] <LjL> wordToDaBird[Lap: seems to be in the repositories to me, specifically in Universe
[10:15] <wordToDaBird[Lap> E: Package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate
[10:15] <Hyperbyte> Is it possible to disable the evdev module for this device only?  I wouldn't mind not being able to press the buttons, as long as I can use the audio device.
[10:15] <dr_willis> TBarth:  and here i am still playing fallout3 ;) and skyrim
[10:15] <samuel> its just a thought, cos i remember looking at the spec's of intel chips and noting that they do not support latest versions of directx or opengl, the latest opengl i think is 4.3
[10:15] <LjL> wordToDaBird[Lap: what version are you on? do you have Universe enabled?
[10:16] <stueng> thanks llutz
[10:16] <pku> samuel its the diablo 3 requires 3.0 how i chekc if i can upgrade ?
[10:16] <samuel> are you running this on a laptop?
[10:16] <pku> yes
[10:16] <Guest93877> Hola?
[10:16] <Guest93877> I'm installing Xubuntu
[10:16] <Guest93877> To my netbook
[10:17] <paopao> Are there any very very very serious problems if I didn't upgrade my Ubuntu to a new version?
[10:17] <Guest93877> Can use Sigala here?
[10:17] <wordToDaBird[Lap> LjL, I just did apt-get update, I would think that would bring my repositories up to date.  Not sure how to check if I have universe as one that I am checking though
[10:17] <paopao> *don't
[10:17] <Guest93877> Sigala works in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Guest93877> ._.
[10:18] <Guest93877> HELLO?:l
[10:18] <pku> samuel yes it laptop
[10:18] <dr_willis> whats sigala?
[10:18] <Guest93877> Is a program
[10:18] <Guest93877> Sigala
[10:18] <dr_willis> how.. vague
[10:18] <Guest93877> Is like teamviewer
[10:18] <Guest93877> I use it
[10:18] <Guest93877> Whith guadalinex edu
[10:18] <Guest93877> In Spain
[10:18] <dr_willis> it has a linux executable/version?
[10:18]  * Wizard looks at is cristall ball.
[10:18] <Guest93877> I dont know xD
[10:18] <stueng> crystal
[10:19] <Wizard> Crystal*
[10:19] <stueng> ^
[10:19] <Hyperbyte> *his
[10:19] <stueng> lol
[10:19] <Hyperbyte> ;-)
[10:19] <ultrixx> paopao: at some point you will not get security updates anymore
[10:19] <Guest93877> I want it because
[10:19] <Wizard> Bah.
[10:19] <stueng> Guest93877: look for something called FreeNX
[10:19] <Guest93877> It work whit italc
[10:19] <LjL> !enter
[10:19] <Guest93877> ..
[10:19] <ink_> back, so what should I be looking for to make ubuntu connect to the ethernet?
[10:19] <Guest93877> Sigala work with Italc.
[10:19] <dr_willis> Guest93877:  we can read more then  3  words per line....
[10:19] <stueng> ink_: an ethernet cable?
[10:19] <Wizard> Guest93877, Have you just tried to install it?
[10:19] <ultrixx> paopao: and you will have to update firefox etc. yourself
[10:20] <ink_> yes Stueng
[10:20] <stueng> ink_: do you have a DHCP server on your network ?
[10:20] <dr_willis> Guest93877:   italc means? and theres no need to msg me...
[10:20] <LjL> i think he's referring to this thing - https://sites.google.com/site/manuales20/sigala
[10:21] <ink_> sorry I am a noob with linux idk what you mean stueng
[10:21] <dr_willis> i dont do much researching - when im on my cellphone like i am now. ;)
[10:21] <stueng> is there an italian ubuntu channel?
[10:21] <LjL> !it | stueng
[10:21] <stueng> ink_: what network are you connecting too?
[10:21] <samuel> hmm you might be right on the opengl requirement being the same, are you able to get graphics acceleration on your laptop?
[10:21] <samuel> thats to pku!
[10:21] <ink_> looks at you blankly
[10:21] <paopao> ultrixx, that's ok, i am just worried about being attacked by some virus.
[10:21] <ink_> my home network
[10:22] <stueng> ink_:  right... do you have a DSL router or something?
[10:22] <stueng> ink_: and what are you chatting to us from atm ?
[10:22] <ultrixx> paopao: then you should keep your installation up-to-date
[10:22] <dr_willis> paopao:  biggest danger to a linux box i see on a daily basis   is the end user doing somthing silly
[10:22] <ink_> yes a DSL router
[10:22] <dr_willis> paopao:  but its still worth while to stay uopdated
[10:22] <ink_> and I am on my main
[10:22] <ink_> I need the laptop to run Linux
[10:23] <samuel> pku it says here http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/diablo-iii-system-requirements that you need a geeforce 260 / ati hd4870 or better to run it
[10:23] <samuel> i think even the latest intel hd comes in below a hd4870 in performance
[10:23] <stueng> ink_: on the the laptop, you have a cable plugged in? and the lights have gone green? (on the physcial ethernet port) ?
[10:23] <paopao> ultrixx, I mean if a new virus comes about, but i can't receive the update, then my Ubuntu would possibly be attacked
[10:23] <stueng> virus? ubuntu? wut
[10:23] <ink_> yes cable is in, but the light hasnt gone green
[10:23] <dr_willis> paopao:  most likely itds not a 'virus' but some other exploit that may get your services
[10:24] <ultrixx> paopao: if a new virus should appear that is capable of exploiting some weak spots in old ubuntus, yes
[10:24] <stueng> ink_: does the ethernet port have a link light? that should go green? cos you need that to happen first
[10:25] <ink_> no it doesnt, and I know the cable works cause i ran it when I use the window part of my system
[10:25] <ink_> opps said a dirty word
[10:25] <paopao> ultrixx, well, it's really a hard choice for me, Ubuntu should support its old version
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> stueng: they do exist, just in labs
[10:25] <stueng> ink_: its rare that an ethernet port doesnt have a link light
[10:25] <samuel> pku, try diablo 1 ;P
[10:25] <stueng> ink_: have you used the ethernet port on this laptop before?
[10:26] <paopao> ultrixx, it upgrades so fast that i didn't even enjoy it....
[10:26] <ultrixx> paopao: no, it would be a huge extra workload to support old versions forever. there is enough work to do to support the latest versions
[10:26] <ink_> yes
[10:26] <MindSpark> woohoo, just upgraded to precise. Computer speed dropped to half and experienced two Xorg crashes so far. Oh, and the bug reporting system says it's damaged and cannot process
[10:26] <stueng> ink_: and on the laptop if you issue from the terminal ifconfig do you see an adapter called eth0 ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: tried Unity2D session
[10:27] <ultrixx> paopao: 12.04 is a lts version, which means you can stay updated for 5 or 7 years
[10:27] <paopao> ultrixx, maybe i don't have to upgrade, i just install an anti-virus software?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: I'd always go for a clean install. Especially with LTS
[10:27] <ultrixx> paopao: no
[10:27] <ink_> sorry stueng not sure what you mean
[10:27] <ultrixx> paopao: that is the wrong way
[10:27] <stueng> you dont know what a terminal is?
[10:28] <ink_> stueng no I dont
[10:28] <psichas> guys, Where i could find all linuxs' lifetime support?
[10:28] <stueng> ink_: press ctrl+alt+t
[10:28] <stueng> type sudo ifonconfig
[10:28] <stueng> ifconfig
[10:28] <ultrixx> paopao: and remember when you are on 12.04 you can stay there for a very long time
[10:28] <ink_> i typed ifconfig
[10:28] <ink_> is that alright
[10:28] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, if it crashes again, I'll delete the cache dir
[10:28] <Walther> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu 12.04 from/through fai?
[10:28] <stueng> and do you see eth0 ?
[10:28] <paopao> ultrixx, i want to let you see my desktop
[10:29] <ink_> yeah and got nothing with eth0
[10:29] <ultrixx> paopao: why?
[10:29] <stueng> ink_: what about lo ?
[10:29] <ink_> no
[10:29] <paopao> ultrixx, i think it's really nice, and that's why i don't want to upgrade
[10:29] <stueng> so what did you get? (blood from a stone this)
[10:29] <ink_> wait yes
[10:29] <ink_> lo    Link encap: local loopback
[10:29] <stueng> so you have information about lo but not eth0 ?
[10:30] <ink_> that whay you mean Stueng
[10:30] <dillon> just configured compiz niiiiiiiiice
[10:30] <ink_> yes
[10:30] <ultrixx> paopao: on what version are you?
[10:30] <stueng> ink_: Im fairly sure your problem exists beyond Ubuntu. The hardware of the laptop or the cable
[10:30] <dr_willis> stueng:  so basically you want to risk  an exploited systgem, so you can keep your current theme?
[10:30] <stueng> ink_: check your BIOS to make sure the ethernet port is enabled
[10:30] <ink_> alright, can i get it set wirelessly, because I know that entire system workds
[10:31] <stueng> dr_willis: eh ?
[10:31] <ink_> idk how to check my bios
[10:31] <paopao> ultrixx, I am sending it to you
[10:31] <dr_willis> that was for paopao
[10:31] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:31] <stueng> figured
[10:31] <stueng> anyone use freenx? Im finding it real sluggish
[10:32]  * dr_willis cleans his bi-focals
[10:32] <ultrixx> paopao: no, thanks
[10:32] <ink_> how do I check to see if an ethernet port is active?
[10:32] <stueng> VNC is quicker..
[10:32] <dr_willis> stueng:  try it with a desktop other then unity?
[10:32] <paopao_> well, ok
[10:33] <stueng> dr_willis: ive been asking how to change the default session from unity to xfce for two days now and I cant seem to get an answer lol
[10:33] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: what do you do on the remote system?
[10:33] <stueng> ActionPa1snip: not sure, Im just doing it cos I can
[10:34] <dr_willis> stueng:  not sure for  freenx. last i tried it. it gave me the login screen i selected the desktop from
[10:34] <stueng> something to do...
[10:34] <dr_willis> ive had issues getting freenx working in the past. not tried it lately
[10:34] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: gotcha, no bad thing
[10:34] <stueng> its working in unity, just slow as hell and ive disabled composition already to get XBMC working quicker
[10:34] <notze> after adding a bridge to my eth0 i cant ssh from outside anymore has anybody any idea what can be the reason?
[10:35] <stueng> notze: can you communicate with the device that you wish to SSH from, from the Ubuntu box?
[10:35] <Ad0> hi
[10:35] <notze> yes i can ping both ways
[10:35] <Ad0> any idea how to recover a lost LVM volume due to a power outage? the RAID is fine (md) but the volume is just not there :(
[10:35] <stueng> notze: i.e is the problem with the network or SSH
[10:36] <Ad0> lvdisplay etc shows every volume except that
[10:36] <notze> i think since i know it now :DD
[10:36] <notze> its network
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> why can't I find gnome-shell?
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> tsama@tsama-ThinkPad-Edge:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> Reading package lists... Done
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> Building dependency tree
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> Reading state information... Done
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> Package gnome-shell is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:37] <FloodBot1> wordToDaBird[Lap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <ActionPa1snip> !info gnome-shell
[10:37] <ultrixx> paopao: you are at Wuhan University?
[10:37] <Walther> Hello! Does anyone know of a way to install Ubuntu 12.04 to multiple computers? We've used fai (fully automated install) before
[10:37] <ActionPa1snip> wordToDaBird[Lap: do you have Universe repo enabled?
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> my bad
[10:37] <wordToDaBird[Lap> ActionPa1snip, I believe so, I just went and uncommented the lines
[10:37] <ActionPa1snip> Walther: could use clonezilla
[10:38] <dr_willis> clonezilla is handy
[10:38] <wordToDaBird[Lap> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty universe
[10:38] <wordToDaBird[Lap> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty universe
[10:38] <wordToDaBird[Lap> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates universe
[10:38] <wordToDaBird[Lap> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates universe
[10:38] <FloodBot1> wordToDaBird[Lap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <ActionPa1snip> wordToDaBird[Lap: if you run:  apt-cache policy gnome-shell     do you see it listed?
[10:38] <ActionPa1snip> wordToDaBird[Lap: please DON'T do that, use a PASTEBIN for multiple lines
[10:38] <wordToDaBird[Lap> I figured it would come on one line. my bad
[10:38] <wordToDaBird[Lap> or rather as one text block
[10:38] <firas> does a deb file contain the icon that appeares in software center, or does it come from a repository?
[10:38] <Walther> ActionPa1snip: Um, disk cloning probably isn't enough - we need a setup taht allows LDAP login
[10:39] <Talisman`Work> moin
[10:39] <ActionPa1snip> Walther: clonezilla will just put the OS on the drives. You could setup a PXE server and boot the liveCD over the LAN
[10:39] <wordToDaBird[Lap> ActionPa1snip, installed none, candidate none
[10:40] <ActionPa1snip> firas: the icon will be in the deb, it will probably be used in software centre too
[10:40] <notze> its a network problem inside the vm. the bridge is not good configured so all responses get lost
[10:40] <firas> ActionPalsnip: ok thnx
[10:40] <Walther> ActionPa1snip: How about the network configuration - if we just dd the drives, won't the network go crazy?
[10:41] <Walther> simple example - hostnames
[10:41] <Talisman`Work> is there any way to easily rollback an upgrade? i.e. I want to go back to 11.10 - I'm finding that 12.04 is broken for a number of my packages.
[10:41] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, no. you must reinstall 11.10
[10:41] <LjL> Talisman`Work: no
[10:41] <vexaxv> hey guys quick question on ubuntu 12.04  how do i edit my startup programs, like in windows it would be msconfig then the startup apps
[10:42] <ActionPa1snip> Walther: sure you can install over LAN but it will only happen once to get the install done
[10:42] <Talisman`Work> OK, great.  then... if I reinstall 11.10 will it reinitialise my partitions?
[10:42] <ActionPa1snip> vexaxv: search dash for startup
[10:42] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, in future you can use the concept of backup. you can take full system backup. using cp -R or something like that and then you will be able to restore backup points.
[10:42] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, which partitions you have?
[10:42] <vexaxv> ActionPa1snip, thanks man
[10:42] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit lol... I don't do backups
[10:43] <vexaxv> anyone on here like desura?
[10:43] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, dont lol. i have burned my hands on this joke that i dont take backups. take it seriously. backups are serious!
[10:43] <tdn> After installing recent updates (new kernel), my LUKS encrypted system does no longer boot. It says: evms_activate not available. If I boot the previous kernel, I do not get this error. How do I fix this?
[10:43] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit I have an ext4 partition.
[10:43] <codekK> I have a ejabberd server with LDAP auth and a shared roster configure and running, the problem is when i want to show the "displayName" from LDAP as nickname on ejabberd client, it dont run automatically its need to push on user right click > get info then show the displayName as nickname but i need it automatically.... ¿anyone?
[10:43] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, no. 'which' partitions you have? not the 'what' partition type you have
[10:44] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: part of the 11.10 install is to setup partitions so you can just mark the existing partitions for formatting and to be used for the same role, or you can wipe them out and repartition. Be sure you backup everything you need
[10:44] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit I don't backup anything except my critical data/files... too much to backup if doing the whole OS everytime
[10:44] <Abhijit>  / /boot/ home etc?
[10:44] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, the whole os is much much less than our regular music and video files
[10:44] <paopao> http://imagebin.org/213398
[10:44] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit I don't even bother with /boot... I just do what's in /home and whatever db directories required - the rest I rebuild.
[10:45] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit I don't have music/videos on my systems
[10:45] <firas> i'm running gnome 3, i have kde also installed, but in gnome3 the apps list shows 2 icons of each app, and even shows executables with no icons
[10:45] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, 11.10 wont do anything to your /home but / and /boot will b e modified
[10:45] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip can it be marked to not initialise the partition?
[10:45] <paopao> I don't want to upgrade....
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: sure you can partition and not set a mount point, you can even set it to not format the partition but use it as a mount opint, retaining the data
[10:46] <Abhijit> firas, #gnome on irc.gnome.org
[10:46] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip that sounds more like what I want... thanks.
[10:47] <Abhijit> ActionPa1snip, but he needs to partitions  the / ??
[10:47] <tdn> Talisman`Work, terminal > "sudo fdisk -l"  will shouw you which partitions you have.
[10:47] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: just read the screen and you'll be ok. If al else fails you can use your backups
[10:47] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit it's already partitioned.
[10:47] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, i mean format while installing the new os
[10:47] <ActionPa1snip> Abhijit: sure but if a seperate /home has been used you can mark it to be used as /home but not formatted
[10:47] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip rofl.  yeh.. I'll cp my data to my portable tonight.
[10:48] <Abhijit> ActionPa1snip, yes right
[10:48] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: you'll need to mark the partition for / to be formatted
[10:48] <Talisman`Work> Abhijit ideally I don't want to initialise the partitions at all.
[10:48] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: I suggest you do it more regularly
[10:48] <Talisman`Work> simply install 11.10 over the existing setup.
[10:49] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip I'm not to worried about it.  but thanks for the concern - you and Abhijit both :-)
[10:49] <ink> hello again, so I have another question
[10:49] <Talisman`Work> It's not a production system by any means
[10:49] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip, Abhijit : thanks for your assistance - much appreciated :-)
[10:49] <ink> the ethernet ports work fine on my system as windows, do I need to manually down and bring them all over onto the ubuntu system to get it to work with the internet?
[10:50] <evilgeenius> Is anybody here not a fan of Unity's fading menus?
[10:50]  * Talisman`Work hates gnome in general
[10:50] <firas> i'm running gnome 3, i have kde also installed, but in gnome3 the apps list shows 2 icons of each app, and even shows executables with no icons          (no answer at gnome irc)
[10:51] <Talisman`Work> too bad fubuntu isn't more active
[10:51] <Talisman`Work> imho, fluxbox ftw
[10:51] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox
[10:51] <stueng> ink: what do you mean by down and bring them all over?
[10:51] <Talisman`Work> but... that's all subjective
[10:51] <Abhijit> Talisman`Work, welcome
[10:51] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip I may just do that.
[10:52] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: there used to be fluxbuntu too (unofficial of course)
[10:52] <Abhijit> evilgeenius, i am not a fan of unity at all. does that count?
[10:52] <stueng> !fluxbox
[10:52] <ink> well if te ubuntu isnt seeing them, do they have ti be manually loaded onto ubuntu system since its partitioned from the windows system?
[10:52] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: minimal + fluxbox + slim = about 1.3Gb installed :)
[10:52] <stueng> why not xubuntu ?
[10:52] <Abhijit> firas, have you tired the channel i suggested?
[10:52] <evilgeenius> Abhijit: you don't count
[10:52] <Abhijit> :-(
[10:52] <thauriswulfa> HELP: I ran a second x-session last time now I am not able login or start any x-session? only guest account is working.Any idea about what should I do?
[10:52] <firas> Abhijit: yes u did
[10:52] <evilgeenius> Abhijit: you shouldn't be here
[10:53] <firas> Abhijit: i mean, yes I did
[10:53] <Abhijit> evilgeenius, :-o
[10:53] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: fluxbox doesn't need a DE :)
[10:53] <Abhijit> firas, ok
[10:53] <bazhang> evilgeenius, stop that
[10:53] <Talisman`Work> ActionPa1snip :-D  I've been using fluxbox on gentoo for about 7 years now - from the 2004.1 release.  never looked back...
[10:53] <evilgeenius> bazhang: stop what?
[10:54] <bazhang> evilgeenius, attacking others, being offtopic
[10:54] <ActionPa1snip> Talisman`Work: I'm an lxde kinda guy :). Fluxbox is badass though
[10:54] <gh0ul> No ratpoison love?
[10:54] <Talisman`Work> I'm using ubuntu on my laptop, however, and it came with gnome :( - I managed to install fluxbox, as well as e17
[10:54] <ink> stueng?
[10:54] <evilgeenius> Abhijit: I apologize for my sins
[10:54] <Talisman`Work> gh0ul can't say I've tried ratpoison though ...
[10:54] <gh0ul> I don't use it anymore. a KDE 4 man now
[10:55] <gh0ul> But did use it for years
[10:55] <evilgeenius> bazhang: I can't see how saying "you shouldn't be here" is any kind of attack.
[10:55] <Talisman`Work> e17 is a very nice bling desktop... too bad Raster won't commit to releasing it...
[10:55] <sk1special> can you partition the drive that is in use ?
[10:55] <stueng> should fluxbox work over freenx ?
[10:55] <firas> i'm running gnome 3, i have kde also installed, but in gnome3 the apps list shows 2 icons of each app, and even shows executables with no icons
[10:55] <thauriswulfa> HELP: I ran a second x-session last time now I am not able login or start any x-session? only guest account is working.Any idea about what should I do?
[10:55] <Talisman`Work> stueng fluxbox only needs Xwindows to work
[10:55] <Abhijit> firas, maybe try askubuntu? there you may get better help
[10:57] <sk1special> trying to install windows on a seperate drive but it says it needs to use some of my main one ( the one i have ubuntu on ) but that it needs to be partitioned/seperately formatted for windows..can i partition this drive using gparted while running ubuntu?
[10:57] <Talisman`Work> gh0ul I find kde to be too heavy (ram/diskspace) for my liking.
[10:57] <Talisman`Work> sk1special why not install windows in a virtual machine?
[10:57] <Talisman`Work> no partitioning required.
[10:57] <gh0ul> Talisman`Work: it's 2012..
[10:58] <Abhijit> sk1special, yes you can partitions drive using gparted while logged on in ubuntu. but you need to unmount that partitions.
[10:58] <gh0ul> I can hold 1000 kdes on my hard drives, and have enough ram to run it 10 times...
[10:58] <gh0ul> I'm all past that lightweight thing :)
[10:58] <Talisman`Work> lol
[10:58] <angel279> Hello, I've some issue with the apache server, .htaccess file not working? any idea?
[10:58] <sk1special> Talisman: i have windows installed allready..its just broken so i want to delete/reinstall it. but cant with out yeah.
[10:58] <bazhang> gh0ul, lets get back on topic
[10:58] <gh0ul> runs really smooth on my machine, and it's really not a top one...
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> gh0ul: it doesnt do a song and dance to get where it needs to be, you click and it goes
[10:58] <gh0ul> bazhang: is there a topic? we were talking about window managers?
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> gh0ul: topic == support
[10:59] <sk1special> abhijit: ah okay.. its not gonna kill anything when i do it right? and how to unmount? just right click unmount like for the secondary?
[10:59] <bazhang> gh0ul, yes. ubuntu support. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:59] <Ad0> any idea how to recover a lost LVM volume due to a power outage? the RAID is fine (md) but the volume is just not there :(
[10:59] <gh0ul> ok, is there an ubuntu talk channel where I don't get threatened with a +b for talking?
[10:59] <gh0ul> ok then
[10:59] <gh0ul> bai
[10:59] <Abhijit> sk1special, yes right click -> unmount.
[10:59] <ink> dear linux I hate you Love Ink,
[10:59] <ink> thanks guys
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> !away > CoM`oFF|Disconn
[11:00] <sk1special> abhijit: said cannot unmount most likely..something with other partitions must do manually
[11:01] <sk1special> . most likely other partitions are mounted on this point*
[11:01] <Abhijit> sk1special, which partition is that?
[11:02] <sk1special> /dev/sdb1  main one
[11:02] <Abhijit> no i mean whats the mount point?
[11:03] <Abhijit> you can not unmount / and /home
[11:03] <Abhijit> while logged on that is
[11:03] <sk1special> yeah  its /
[11:03] <crescent_sun> I am trying to install 12.04 LTS Server and even though I download the i386 version it says that the kernel is for a 64 bit CPU..
[11:03] <sk1special> so how do i do this lol?
[11:03] <Abhijit> sk1special, if you re partitions this  / your current ubuntu will be gone. do you know this?
[11:03] <ActionPa1snip> crescent_sun: then you got the 64bit ISO
[11:04] <sk1special> Abhijit: no .. tear. is there a way to partition this drive that wont kill ubnutu?
[11:04] <sk1special> ubuntu*
[11:04] <stueng> to start fluxbox do you just install it and then run "fluxbox" from terminal to start X etc?
[11:05] <Abhijit> sk1special, no. however you can resize / (with caution and on your own responsibility) that will give you free space
[11:05] <ActionPa1snip> StevenR: i believe it's 'startfluxbox'
[11:05] <stueng> ah ok
[11:06] <sk1special> Abhijit: is it that dangerous ? and would that new free space be formattable?
[11:06] <Abhijit> sk1special, and fore that resizing you need to be in the live session mode or use http://partedmagic.com/doku.php
[11:06] <crescent_sun> ActionPa1snip: so I guess that  ubuntu.com says that you can download a 32-bit iso but it is really a 64-bit iso
[11:07] <crescent_sun> should I report this anywhere?
[11:07] <Abhijit> sk1special, one hdd can have only 4 primary partitions. beyound that you can not create new partitions. but you can have as many as possible extended partitions
[11:07] <ActionPa1snip> crescent_sun: if you suspect one then yes
[11:07] <Abhijit> so in this case if  you have crossed that limit of 4 primary partitions then you can not format that new extra free space
[11:08] <sk1special> Abhijit: no i have 3 partitions i guess that ubuntu itself created when i installed it.. and i have a seperate hdd that has one plus some unallocated space,
[11:09] <Abhijit> sk1special, yeah then you may be able to format that new extra free space
[11:09] <sk1special> when i went to reinstall windows..it said i need to create a partition for it to use to save some stuff on my main drive ( the one with ubuntu on it )
[11:09] <Abhijit> hmmm no idea about that. not used windows in past 3 years
[11:11] <sk1special> Ahjiti: idk ive always has issues when not install windows on the primary.. one hdd is ide.. one is sata..do you know how i could make the sata second and the ide primary?  and would that mess up ubuntu?
[11:11] <Abhijit> sk1special, no idea about any windows issues. try ##windows
[11:12] <Abhijit> sk1special, making something parimary and something else secondary wont harm ubuntu
[11:12] <ActionPa1snip> sk1special: if you delete a partition (which will destroy the data), you can then install to the empty space
[11:12] <stueng> anyone know how to stop Ubuntu from starting a GUI upon boot ?
[11:13] <sk1special> abhijit: not windows.. more hardware. id know how to use jumpers between ide drives..but it didnt work like that for me for sata vs ide.
[11:13] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: add the boot option:  text
[11:13] <stueng> ActionPa1snip: whats that mean :)
[11:13] <Abhijit> sk1special, i dont understand what you mean
[11:14] <abhinavmehta_> can someone please provide me good-link to read "how to manually configure wireless, without NetworkManager for RT2651 card" ??
[11:14] <sk1special> Action: whats up  yeah.. but i have two working partitons with space on them..one being ubuntu that i dont want to loose..and the other being windows that wants me to use ubuntus hdd
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub    and find the line with:  quiet splash     and change it to:   quiet splash text
[11:14] <abhinavmehta_> googled..but couldn't found any good one.
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub
[11:15] <Fat-Thing> how can i make a back up on my ubuntu 10.04 desktop?
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> !backup
[11:15] <stueng> ActionPa1snip: this will stop X from starting but I can still start it manually by starting xfce, gnome etc?
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: yes, you can start the desktop if desired
[11:16] <sk1special> Abhijit: i have two internal HDD's , ones connected via IDE cable.. one via  SATA .. the sata is reading primary..the ide secondary ,  windows being on the ide , ubuntu on the sata , windows has to use the sata for some files since its the primary hdd , if i could change that, itd be good
[11:16] <stueng> k, rebootin ty
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: thats how you add boot options in Grub2
[11:17] <crescent_sun> can someone ( or even a bot) tell me where to report issue with downloaded 32-bit server version on ubuntu.com?
[11:17] <Abhijit> sk1special, hmm ok. cant help here. ask windows people
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> !bug | crescent_sun
[11:17] <sk1special> Abhijit: ah mmk. thanks for the advice tho
[11:18] <stueng> ActionPa1snip: when I try start xfce now I get cannot connect to display
[11:19] <NovemberRain> hi
[11:19] <NovemberRain> gidersen sevgilim yashayamam..
[11:20] <stueng> how to copy recursivley? cp * -R /destination/ ?
[11:20] <ikonia> stueng: cp -R $directory /$newlocation
[11:20] <Walther> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu 12.04 through fai?
[11:20] <ikonia> fai ?
[11:20] <Walther> Fully Automated Install
[11:21] <ikonia> never even heard of it
[11:21] <Walther> server-based mass installation thingy
[11:21] <stueng> ikonia: I want to copy the contents of wher eI am now (pwd)
[11:21] <ikonia> I've done it through kickstart which is fully automated
[11:21] <ikonia> stueng: cp -R .
[11:21] <stueng> so cp -R /newlocation ?
[11:21] <stueng> oh
[11:21] <ikonia> stueng: cp -R . /$newlocation
[11:21] <stueng> cp -R . /newlocation/
[11:21] <stueng> kk
[11:22] <stueng> -v for verbose?
[11:22]  * vlt googles kickstart
[11:22] <ikonia> stueng: man cp for the flags
[11:22] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: run:  sudo service lightdm start
[11:22] <sk1special> is there a hardware channel? please dont bot list me.. the channel list kills my chat for somereason im not worried about atm
[11:22] <ikonia> sk1special: ##hardware
[11:22] <sk1special> obviously. t/y
[11:23] <stueng> ActionPa1snip: thanks, but now I am back in Unity. Is it not possible to just launch gnome / xfce / unity / fluxbox from the terminal ?
[11:26] <stueng> sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[11:26] <stueng> seems this is what I am looking for
[11:26] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: it will pickup your user's default session afaik, you'll need a different command to get the other DEs etc
[11:27] <aaa> is there a way to downgrade 12.04 to 11.04?
[11:27] <Walther> Can anyone help me with installling multiple computers through fai/kickstart/something?
[11:27] <Walther> We have a computer lab, and we do have servers which we can use to automate the installs
[11:27] <Walther> We also need LDAP-based login on the computers
[11:28] <stueng> aaa if you approach the speed of light time will slow down, maybe even stop. Perhaps if you exceed the speed of light you can go backwards in time? Yes you can downgrade, how I Dunno, but people are doing it a lot round here
[11:28] <stueng> https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=revert+from+ubuntu+12.04+to+11.10&oq=revert+from+ubuntu+12&aq=0&aqi=g1&aql=1&gs_l=hp.3.0.0.0.0.1.31.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.eish.1.0.0.QsDfKO4b2Co&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=53c6ba48570c9bd5&biw=1396&bih=860
[11:28] <ActionPa1snip> aaa: reinstall is the only way
[11:29] <GoodByeMegaton> hello
[11:29] <GoodByeMegaton> would anyone of you show me the version of Mesa you have in current release ?
[11:29] <stueng> aaa: when you re-install you will have the option to preserve your data, settings etc
[11:29] <McFaggot> Is it possible to get that OS X Lion feel in Natty?
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> !info mesa
[11:29] <aaa> thanks
[11:29] <GoodByeMegaton> o.O
[11:29] <GoodByeMegaton> what
[11:30] <ActionPa1snip> !info mesa-utils
[11:30] <GoodByeMegaton> ActionPa1snip: great, that's what i wanted
[11:30] <GoodByeMegaton> thx
[11:30] <stueng> whats a paisnip
[11:31] <bazhang> !ot | stueng
[11:31] <stueng> :o
[11:31] <McFaggot> How to theme Natty to be like OS X Lion?
[11:32] <GoodByeMegaton> McFaggot: no, ubuntu (and generally) linux is class faster then os x (emulating smp - yes) so you won't experirence unresponsive desktop and spinning rainbow circle the most of the time
[11:32] <GoodByeMegaton> (and generally linux)
[11:32] <johnf> Has anyone installed precise on a Macbook6,2? I'm getting corrupted video after the purple screen when booting the installer
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> McFaggot: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/make-ubuntu-look-like-mac-osx-in.html
[11:32] <McFaggot> GoodByeMegaton: I was talking about theming.
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> johnf: what GPU do you use?
[11:33] <McFaggot> ActionPa1snip: That's like from 2010, and Leopard or Snow Leopard.
[11:33] <johnf> ActionPa1snip: Currently have oneiric on it using nvidia. Trying to do a fresh install of precise
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> McFaggot: there are similar guides online
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> johnf: then add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[11:34] <GoodByeMegaton> johnf: put into grub nomodeset
[11:34] <GoodByeMegaton> and powercycle
[11:34] <johnf> thanks guys
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> McFaggot: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKu6mM9XqNc
[11:34] <sk1special> other q can you install and or run ubuntu on a hdd connected via usb?
[11:35] <stueng> yes
[11:35] <GoodByeMegaton> johnf: test first nomodeset .. use ActionPa1snip's blacklisting as the last resort
[11:35] <stueng> you can install ubuntu on a usb stick if u want
[11:35] <McFaggot> ActionPa1snip: Looks interesting. I sure wish there was one especially for OS X Lion..
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> McFaggot: this is literally al I am doing: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=make+ubuntu+look+like+mac+lion&kp=1
[11:36] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone , cron is giving me a lot of problems and I have not used script for it but just a cron. I am trying to run rsync with it but it is not running simple command also ---http://pastebin.com/S3iDMtJn
[11:37] <sk1special> ah mmk ..yeah i had it on the usb for awhile..but like win let me do that but couldnt use a usb cable hdd idk why. t/y tho
[11:38] <Orpheon> hey
[11:39] <Orpheon> For some reason, I'm missing some files that should come in nvidia-current. I tried reinstalling the package, even installing other ones, didn't work. Any ideas what could be the cause or better, a fix?
[11:39] <stueng> you are using unity Orpheon ?
[11:39] <Orpheon> The file in question is libvdpau_nouveau.so
[11:39] <Orpheon> yes
[11:40] <stueng> happy to use propietry drivers?
[11:40] <Orpheon> yes
[11:40] <stueng> if you click the start button thing and type drivers you will get the propietry driver installation tool
[11:40] <Orpheon> yes
[11:40] <Orpheon> that's how I installed it
[11:40] <stueng> you should see two versions
[11:40] <ActionPa1snip> start button ...... hahaha
[11:40] <thauriswulfa> HELP: xfwm4 is running but there are no compositing effects http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05222012-050822pm.php
[11:40] <stueng> lol whats it called ActionPa1snip ?
[11:41] <Orpheon> dash button or something would have been my guess
[11:41] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: easier to just open a terminal and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:41] <Orpheon> or dash launcher
[11:41] <McFaggot> ActionPa1snip: duckduckgo? come on..
[11:41] <stueng> Orpheon: I installed the latest unstable release, then switched back to the stable one and it resolved my issues
[11:41] <madzik> Hello everyone i installed pj sip user agent and when i run the test wizard i get "no audio device" error message, any idea how to fix that?
[11:41] <ActionPa1snip> McFaggot: what do you mean?
[11:42] <Orpheon> stueng: Strange, because I did that too, and it didn't help
[11:42] <McFaggot> ActionPa1snip: Weird search engine, that's all.
[11:42] <ActionPa1snip> McFaggot: what? just because it's not google?
[11:42] <Orpheon> although right now I think I'm following the xorg PPA
[11:42] <Orpheon> the stable one
[11:42] <McFaggot> actionParsnip: Maybe..
[11:42] <stueng> if its not on google it doesnt exist
[11:43] <actionParsnip> McFaggot: there are lots more search engines than just google, dude
[11:43]  * actionParsnip doesn't like being bubbled
[11:43] <Vivekananda> I also tried troubleshooting cron from this site but not getting anywhere --- http://askubuntu.com/questions/23009/reasons-why-crontab-does-not-work
[11:44] <Orpheon> actionParsnip: I don't think there is any that can match google though
[11:44] <ikonia> McFaggot: most of the OS-X driven themes for linux have stability issues due to the way the desktop works (being honet)
[11:44] <actionParsnip> Orpheon: well I help many on here and loads on launchpad forum and I don't use google
[11:44] <ikonia> honest
[11:44] <McFaggot> actionParsnip: Is it because some users are paranoid that Google might track whatever they do?
[11:44] <Orpheon> ah ok
[11:44] <spartan2276> How can I fix this error(http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1000667/)?
[11:44] <actionParsnip> McFaggot: its not tracking, its being bubbled
[11:44] <prodigel> hi all. I'm looking for a simple way to match any .localhost domain to my local machine. I saw that hosts file is not accepting regex, can I do this easily with BIND? no experience whatsoever ...
[11:44] <actionParsnip> Orpheon: exactly
[11:44] <Orpheon> actionParsnip: Not saying it's the only one, and I'm fine with it if you're not using it, but I still think it's the best
[11:45] <ikonia> spartan2276: the symlink it's trying to make already exists
[11:45] <Orpheon> at least, I haven't met a better one yet
[11:45] <actionParsnip> Orpheon: the way it gets results ristricts results and may hide pags which give what you need
[11:45] <ikonia> prodigel: sorry, what do you want to do ?
[11:45] <spartan2276> ikonia, I have zero clue as to how to fix it
[11:45] <uuser> hi all. can someone gives me an hint about the reason why if i run update-grub from two different installation (sda1 and sda2) it has effect only in one case? thanks.
[11:45] <McFaggot> actionParsnip: Okay, if you say so.
[11:46] <actionParsnip> McFaggot: if you knew how google filtered your results...
[11:46] <spartan2276> ikonia, because of this my system won't update
[11:46] <prodigel> ikonia, I want to find a way to avoid cluttering my hosts file each time I define an apache virtualhost
[11:46] <McFaggot> actionParsnip: Filtering? Like what?
[11:46] <actionParsnip> McFaggot: go to the duckduckgo site, it tells you. I thought you'd know. you sounded all informed and stuff
[11:46] <bazhang> actionParsnip, lets move on please
[11:46] <prodigel> ikonia, a dns server would do probably, but I have no idea how to install/configure one
[11:47] <McFaggot> actionParsnip: I am, I'm just making conversation.
[11:47] <bazhang> McFaggot, wrong place for it. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[11:47] <mosayeb_> how can i update only a specific repository?
[11:48] <McFaggot> bazhang: I am terribly sorry. Please forgive me, your highness.
[11:48] <uuser> could it be because grub has been installed in one partition intead of the mbr?
[11:50] <Chris-C> Hi all. I have an Acer Aspire 5733. The brightness controls do not work. Is there any kind of third party apps that can do that for me? I have searched all around Google and no one seems to have a solution that works for me.
[11:51] <DottorLeo> hi!
[11:51] <DottorLeo> i've installed the new kernel 3.4
[11:52] <DottorLeo> but now the wireless doesn't work anymore because it says that the switch is hard locked
[11:52] <DottorLeo> i haven't change nothing
[11:52] <bazhang> DottorLeo, installed from where
[11:52] <DottorLeo> after the upgrade
[11:53] <DottorLeo> ppa kernel.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <actionParsnip> DottorLeo: not supported here
[11:53] <bazhang> DottorLeo, contact the ppa maintainer then, it s not supported
[11:53] <dury> hi there dudes :-)
[11:53] <stueng> I did sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and changed user-session=xfce but upon reboot I still get unity?
[11:54] <spartan2276> How can I fix this error(http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1000667/)?
[11:54] <stueng> The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist.
[11:56] <DottorLeo> oh ok. kernel.ubuntu is not official from Ubuntu team?
[11:56] <stueng> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1000667/
[11:56] <dury> my question is: would it be fast enough if I install it in a Vmware. the box is having 4 GB RAM with 200 GB Hard Disk and the processor is Intel i5
[11:56] <bazhang> DottorLeo, PPA are not supported, kernel or otherwise
[11:56] <stueng> dury: yes
[11:57] <DottorLeo> ok
[11:57] <actionParsnip> DottorLeo: its from a PPA, we cannot support PPAs here
[11:57] <gusnnbs> hey
[11:57] <dury> stueng: sure?
[11:57] <Wizard> Bad Microsoft had to call step by step dialog box a wizard and now everybody hilights me :(
[11:57] <stueng> dury: yeah, that spec is plenty
[11:57] <stueng> 1ghz, 1gb ram, 5gb HDD will do you fine
[11:58] <dury> stueng: right I see
[11:58] <ChesterX> hello everyone, is there anyway to install other DEs (xfce & kde) without the application packages that come with it?
[11:58] <stueng> dury: my media computer runs off an atom 1ghz cpu with 2gb ram and 20GB SSD. it plays 1080p silkly smoothe
[11:59] <dury> stueng: but consider that it's in virtual machine
[11:59] <dury> stueng: Vmware
[11:59] <stueng> yeh thats fine man, an I5 will kick Ubuntu ass
[12:00] <vlt> Wizard: My name is a common abbreviation in chats of my native language :(
[12:00] <stueng> dury, have you looked at Wubi ?
[12:00] <Vivekananda> no one
[12:00] <dury> stueng: right... really appreciate your suggestions
[12:00] <Wizard> vlt, :(
[12:01] <dury> stueng: thanks indeed
[12:02] <elspuddy> whats an easy way of backing up a mac hard drive in ubuntu ?
[12:02] <stueng> !backup
[12:02] <ilogical> L3top: I am afraid the problem is back, and I can't change to any tty and go back
[12:03] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?
[12:03] <elspuddy> thanks stueng
[12:04] <ChesterX> is it possible to install the xubuntu-desktop package from the xubuntu cd? or do i have to download the package via the software center?
[12:05] <dury> stueng: could you tell me the Wubi url for that, please?
[12:05] <stueng> dury: what?
[12:05] <krababbel> ChesterX: probably, reenable the cd source in software center
[12:05] <stueng> !wubi
[12:06] <dury> stueng: thanks
[12:06] <stueng> wubi is an awesome way to try ubuntu
[12:07] <ilogical> L3top: now I can't manage to use the system to get help, I am on another windows computer
[12:08] <freakolowsky> aloha ... got two questions  ... does 12.04 use gconf or dconf?
[12:09] <ChesterX> krababbel, does it work with both the "normal" and the alternate cd?
[12:10] <dritharashtra> hi
[12:14] <Fat-Thing> im having a problem with my youtube video....everytime i'll open new video i have to refresh the page so that it will load and display the video any solution for that?
[12:14] <krababbel> ChesterX: don't know, probably alternative, if there is that desktop, never used alternate
[12:15] <krababbel> if it's on the cd, it will work
[12:16] <Snowie> Hi all. how is 12.04 goin
[12:17] <ChesterX> krababbel, ok. in this case i don t have to download the alternate cd ^^ (lessen the usage of bandwith is always a good thing) thanks
[12:20] <Snowie> My real question is, will upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 improve or reduce performance/capability for
[12:20] <Snowie> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series]
[12:20] <Snowie> at best atm I run 2d desktop
[12:21] <Snowie> so i assume that means i have no hardware acceleration
[12:21] <Lantizia> Hey I mount an sftp share using fstab - but this one host i'm connecting to doesn't do public key auth so its password only - any way to automate this?
[12:21] <crizis> it has newer proprietary driver, so should work better
[12:21] <crizis> Snowie: also you can install fgrlx-updates or somesuch package to get newer proprietary driver
[12:21] <hje841> From Ubuntu 11.10 I'm trying to connect to an external MySQL database with php through my localhost (Apache2), but I keep getting 'Unknown MySQL server host'. the ip is correct, but no joy
[12:21] <crizis> i have 6870 myself without any probs
[12:21] <hje841> any ideas?
[12:22] <Snowie> crizis: are you managing 3d desktop? if so, what driver setup have you got, and how can i tell what im running. it was so long ago with so many hassles i cant really remember
[12:23] <actionParsnip> hje841: can you ping the IP?
[12:23] <hje841> actionParsnip, yes
[12:23] <crescent_sun> can someone show me some simple code for using the trigger function on jquery?
[12:24] <hje841> I've found a possible solution by using SELinux, but that didn't work
[12:26] <ubuntu_64bit> link for ubuntu installlation inside windows microsft
[12:26] <e2b04836> !wubi |ubuntu_64bit
[12:26] <KM0201> ubuntu_64bit: it's not really the best way to install Ubuntu... just partition your drive and install...
[12:27] <Fat-Thing> im having a problem with my youtube video....everytime i'll open new video i have to refresh the page so that it will load and display the video any solution for that?
[12:27] <KM0201> Fat-Thing: html5?
[12:28] <LinuxMonkey> hje841: is it a website your trying to build from scrach using php or is it a cms like wordpress or joomla. i'm thinking you have non Ubuntu issues.
[12:28] <wordToDaBird[Lap> i had been avoiding upgrading my ubuntu box for a while, i just installed 11.04, I have to go to 11.10 then to 12.04 or can I can straight?
[12:28] <Fat-Thing> nope
[12:28] <KM0201> wordToDaBird[Lap: yes, you have to go through 11.10
[12:28] <KM0201> wordToDaBird[Lap: if you just installed, just clean install 12.04
[12:29] <Snowie> ZOM14%%!FG, having a TB hd and an interest in the software in the repos means my upgrade is 2G!!! is that normal?
[12:29] <wordToDaBird[Lap> KM0201, ty
[12:29] <GNS3Talk> Any network drivers guru in this channel?
[12:29] <wordToDaBird[Lap> nah, ive been using the system for years, but didn't want to deal with unity.  I think the UI is hideous
[12:30] <hje841> LinuxMonkey, I'm building a webapp from scratch with JavaScript, but with php as connection to the database. it works fine when my codebase is on the same server as the database, but now I've moved it to my own pc and executing it on Apache2 but the DB is still on a WinServer
[12:31] <e2b04836> hje841: you need to edit your mysql config to allow connections from remote computers
[12:31] <Snowie> wordToDaBird[Lap: i know that it's a real personal pref thing. But i'm a gui user but a keyboarder, so i think it's awesome. main reason i want 12.04 is for menu search shortcut
[12:31] <LinuxMonkey> hje841: what e2b04836 said is what I was gonna say
[12:31] <ubuntu_64bit> KM0201, why isnt safe to install without using wubi
[12:32] <actionParsnip> Snowie: more packages installed == more to upgrade
[12:32] <KM0201> ubuntu_64bit: i said i wouldn't *use* wubi, not that I would only install using wubi... just google "wubi problems".. they are often hard to fix, and usually brick OS's when they happen.
[12:32] <GNS3Talk> Gents, I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, and my Quad NIC cards don't work on the new version. From the drop down menu, I see 'Device Not Ready' message. Can anybody help why I'm receiving this message?
[12:32] <Snowie> actionParsnip: yeah. might be in my interest do ditch a bunch of them
[12:33] <actionParsnip> Snowie: its why I keep a tight ship and use as few packages as possible
[12:33] <Snowie> GNS3Talk: i would start with poking at ifconfig
[12:33] <GNS3Talk> Snowie: The ifconfig shows all the NICs.
[12:33] <ilogical> L3top: I would go for a fresh new install if I knew this problem wouldn't appear again
[12:34] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: did you try manual configuration instead of network manager?
[12:34] <45PAAKV28> I need help with quintuple boot
[12:35] <GNS3Talk> krababbel: I switched to Linux about two months ago. I know how to get things working, but not too sure what you mean. Could you please clarify?
[12:35] <ndee> I wanted to install the updated clamav from here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa <-- I added the ppa location, when I do a apt-get update, I see following line: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwibber-daily/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US <-- what could cause that line?
[12:35] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: 'ip' command is the current way to do it. save into /etc/network/interfaces for next boot.
[12:35] <LinuxMonkey> !ppa | ndee
[12:35] <GNS3Talk> I will try that and get back to you.
[12:35] <GNS3Talk> Thanks krababbel :)
[12:35] <ndee> !ppa-purge
[12:35] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: maybe network manager, which is in task bar, has problems. you can remove it in software center. then you need to configuer manually
[12:36] <OerHeks> ndee that ppa is not suitable for Precise 12.04
[12:36] <ndee> OerHeks, I'm on 10.04
[12:36] <GNS3Talk> krababbel:  Possibly! But when I plug a network cable into the port, the OS doesn't identify it.
[12:37] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: you mean nm at the top doesn't see it?
[12:37] <DFrostedWang> Just a tip: If you find this annoying that you have to switch between irc and terminal try Guake.
[12:37] <DFrostedWang> It's much better since so much happens in the terminal.
[12:37] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: try it manually, maybe you don't even have to remove nm for a try, just don't use it. 'ip link' for instance should see all interfaces.
[12:38] <krababbel>  GNS3Talk 'ip addr' shows adresses.
[12:38] <krababbel> 'ip addr add 10.0.0.1/24 dev eth0' adds an adress,
[12:39] <ubuntu_64bit> KM0201, about using wubi if there is some problem why dont u tell or report the problem so the ubuntu developers could fix
[12:39] <GNS3Talk> krababbel: I will try that command to add the IP address setting manually via CLI.
[12:40] <GNS3Talk> I'm back on 11.10 now, and I asked the question many times over the Ubuntu forum but no one bothered to reply :) Cheers krababbel
[12:40] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: also don't forget 'ip route' 'ip route add ...' and dns config then. for the next boot, you need interfaces file in /etc/network/ :)
[12:40] <hje841> e2b04836, a colleague can access the db from a windows machine no problem, but from my ubuntu 11.10 I get 'Unknown host'
[12:41] <GNS3Talk> Yep thanks. I will study the 'ip' command and all the options it offers (DNS, Gateway, Subnet mask, etc)
[12:41] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: also dns entry is needed now in /etc/resolvconf/base, resolvconf package manages dns now
[12:41] <krababbel> np
[12:41] <DFrostedWang> I need help with quintuple boot, if anyone can help.
[12:41] <e2b04836> hje841: is it a mysql database?
[12:41] <krababbel> GNS3Talk: though in interfaces file there is a line for dns too, forgot that
[12:41] <krababbel> GNS3Talk:
[12:41] <master_> hi
[12:42] <hje841> e2b04836, yes
[12:42] <DFrostedWang> hi
[12:42] <DFrostedWang> I need help with quintuple boot.
[12:42] <Snowie> DFrostedWang: i dont think i can help directly, but if you start describing your issue, someone in the chat will let you know if your in the right place. might be better to try the room for the bootloader you are using
[12:42] <DFrostedWang> IDK what a bootloader is, exactly.
[12:42] <master_> anyone knows about bash scripts ???
[12:43] <DFrostedWang> I can only have 4 partitions, though.
[12:43] <DFrostedWang> I'm already using my Windows backup drive.
[12:43] <Snowie> DFrostedWang: ah, k. so when you say 'quintuple boot' what do you mean exactly. that five different operating systems?
[12:43] <DFrostedWang> as kubuntu
[12:43] <DFrostedWang> Yes
[12:43] <DFrostedWang> 2 within a windows partition
[12:43] <e2b04836> hje841: what happens if you try to connect to the database using the commandline from another machine?
[12:43] <DFrostedWang> 1 on backup hard drive
[12:44] <nyuszika7h> Hi, what is /dev/port?
[12:44] <DFrostedWang> 3 on Windows partition counting Windows
[12:44] <hje841> e2b04836, the same - 'Unknown host...'
[12:44] <DFrostedWang> The one I have an issue with is on SD card.
[12:44] <Snowie> master_, there is a bash chat room #bash
[12:45] <freakolowsky> I've got a strange issue with super key ... using system settings -> keyboard i bind "Super-T" to terminal ... works fine ... then i bind "Super-E" to home and "Super-L" to lock screen ... in both cases i get the search bar (as if super wasn't pressed)
[12:45] <freakolowsky> any ideas?
[12:45] <Snowie> so you are trying to install Kubuntu, but you have 3 windows installs allread?????
[12:46] <e2b04836> hje841: are you using the machines ip or dns name?
[12:46] <DFrostedWang> I have ubuntu within windows alongside another non-linux on Windows partition. My backup partition has kubuntu. Xubuntu is on SDHC card.
[12:47] <hje841> e2b04836, IP.
[12:47] <Snowie> DFrostedWang: ok, that's full on man. what's the issue your having?
[12:48] <sancas> i have eclipse in ~/.eclipse/eclipse... and i want create a launcher for it
[12:48] <altin_> anyone knows a good way to set up a VPN connection between 2 servers
[12:48] <altin_> in ubuntu
[12:48] <e2b04836> hje841: that is very strange indeed i'm all out of ideas
[12:48] <DFrostedWang> it won't launch
[12:48] <DFrostedWang> doesnt show up
[12:48] <DFrostedWang> I should point something out, though.
[12:48] <Snowie> sancas: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[12:49] <spass> altin_: neorouter :)
[12:49] <hje841> e2b04836, the only difference is that I'm the only one with an Ubuntu pc.
[12:49] <DFrostedWang> When my machine turns on I have kubuntu bootloader asking how to boot. I have to choose the Windows bootloader from there to boot something on Windows partition.
[12:51] <Snowie> DFrostedWang: ok. I can only assume if you cant see the SDHC card, that it's not mounting properly. i think you will have to modify the bootloader to get that to happen. but that's about the best advice i can offer. hope it helps.
[12:51] <DFrostedWang> how
[12:51] <DFrostedWang> ?
[12:51] <Snowie> the bootloader is called grub
[12:52] <Snowie> top google result for mound sdhc in grub doesnt offer much confidence sorry
[12:52] <Snowie> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2012-03/msg01484.html
[12:53] <hottuna> hello! im having some issues with fglrx and jockey-gtk. fglrx crasches and has terrible performance
[12:53] <notze> and gain
[12:54] <hottuna> whats the best way of fixing it?
[12:54] <sancas> thanks Snowie
[12:54] <danieldeusing> http://tuxthink.blogspot.de/2011/12/send-output-from-one-terminal-to.html <--- how can I read the output if I am connected to this maschine via ssh ?
[12:54] <notze> apt-get upgrade ->hash sum missmatch
[12:54] <notze> what the helk
[12:54] <Snowie> hottuna. first thing i would try is 2d mode for unity. if you can get the splash screen, it is one of the options. thats what i did :S
[12:55] <tester_> Can anybody tell me why i'm getting this problem.....
[12:55] <tester_> tester@tester~/Desktop$ scp -v expert root@192.168.62.129:/home/tester/Desktop/.Executing: program /usr/bin/ssh host 192.168.62.129, user root, command scp -v -t -- /home/tester/Desktop/.
[12:55] <DFrostedWang> The internet says UNetbootin is better than Startup Disk Creator for this, so I'll try that...
[12:55] <tester_> OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: Applying options for *
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: Connecting to 192.168.62.129 [192.168.62.129] port 22.
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: Connection established.
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
[12:55] <FloodBot1> tester_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1
[12:55] <tester_> debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
[12:55] <hottuna> 2d mode works. 3d mode works aswell, however fglrx crasches ever 5-45 minutes
[12:56] <altin_> spass never heard of it...
[12:56] <altin_> is that good
[12:56] <altin_> ?
[12:56] <Snowie> lol
[12:56] <LinuxMonkey> !paste | tester_
[12:56] <fidel_> altin_: spass has quit
[12:57] <freakolowsky> ... guess nobodyž
[12:57] <Snowie> hottuna: can you post the output of $ lspci | grep VGA'
[12:57] <Snowie> hottun
[12:58] <Snowie> hottuna: sorry, without the `    fat fingers tonight
[12:58] <tester_> browser N.A. Sorry for this time...Any Help Please
[12:59] <Snowie> tester_: huh?
[12:59] <hottuna> Snowie: http://pastebin.com/AE4am454
[12:59] <tester_> Snowie: Pls Sorry
[12:59] <Snowie> hottuna: ok, have you tried the radeon drivers instead
[13:00] <hottuna> yes, thay crasch every 5-45 minutes :(
[13:00] <hottuna> and have equally bad performance
[13:01] <Snowie> hottuna: ouch. have you had this card working recently with other os?
[13:02] <hottuna> yes, it ran ok under linux mint until recently. I've also tried another radeon card with the same results
[13:02] <Snowie> ok, so i think we can eliminate the card and the drivers as being faulty. the issue must lie somewhere else. got any custom effects?
[13:03] <hottuna> teh default ones on unity 3d
[13:03] <tester_> sending my problem: cmd output as a text file
[13:03] <LinuxMonkey> hottuna: when the issue started did you possibly install a new kernel?
[13:04] <tester_> snowie : sending my problem: cmd output as a text file
[13:04] <hottuna> maybe via apt-get upgrade. no manual stuff however
[13:04] <ldz420> hottuna: you might need to update some packages or even the linux source or header packages
[13:04] <Vlan> sorry guys, i'd need a help real quick... i'm using 12.04 and i can't see any of the menus
[13:04] <Vlan> how do i replace them?
[13:05] <mykhi_> hey guys what does it mean when 'ls -l' shows that all directories have szie of 4,0K but one is like 50000,0K
[13:05] <hottuna> ldz420, LinuxMonkey ill try and update and see if jockey-gtk will intstall properly now
[13:05] <angel279> Hello, I've purchase a vps (xen) with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now I would like to upgrade to 12.04 (do-release-update -d) but after the upgrade process the server not load up and I dont have access via the SSH, I can press choose after the upgrade to not restart the server.. but I still dont know what to do in order to fix this issue?
[13:05] <Vlan> i've used metacity --replace but it seems to have made things worse
[13:05] <taxi> i would like to upgrade to lolita
[13:05] <taxi> nymphet
[13:06] <dontknow> chromium stable channel is still on 18 WTH?  https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable
[13:06] <taxi> young uns
[13:06] <nh2> what is the 12.04 equivalent of gnome-power-manager? The binary is gone
[13:06] <taxi> pthc
[13:06] <taxi> cp
[13:06] <Snowie> Vlan: um, restart doesn't work?
[13:07] <Zio_Liuc> hi guys....I've an ubuntu 11.10 with the /home encrypted, can I format the / without loss any data?
[13:07] <ldz420> Vlan: so what if you try and press the hold alt  button?
[13:07] <wN> Zio_Liuc: yes
[13:07] <hottuna> Could someone ban taxi, childporn is not acceptable
[13:07] <wN> Zio_Liuc: wait... no data loss on /home
[13:07] <Zio_Liuc> Thank you wN ;)
[13:07] <wN> Zio_Liuc: / will be lost. and if your'e using cryptosetup you probably need your /etc/crypttab file (i think). im not sure how it works in ubuntu
[13:07] <Sidewinder> Vlan, You may wish to have a look here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[13:08] <escott> Zio_Liuc, encrypted /home is self contained in /home. but before you do that you might want to backup your decryption key just in case
[13:09] <Aritz> ?
[13:09] <Zio_Liuc> sure...I'll backup the /home, but just the important files.
[13:09] <scintillae> would 12.04 report a bc4311 minipci wifi card with lspci... even though it isn't physically installed on a Dell D630?
[13:09] <Zio_Liuc> this is the fist time that I encrypt my home..
[13:09] <escott> Zio_Liuc, if you are backing up /home be sure to do so when the user is not logged in
[13:10] <Zio_Liuc> with the uprade  from 11.04 to 11.10
[13:10] <Snowie> Zio_Liuc: speaking of, you ever use ubuntu1 for that. i havnt really bothered, but im thinking i should
[13:10] <Zio_Liuc> no problem
[13:10] <tester_> scp -v expert root@192.168.62.129:/home/tester/Desktop/.             Executing: program /usr/bin/ssh host 192.168.62.129, user root, command scp -v -t -- /home/tester/Desktop/.                     OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010           debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config                     debug1: Applying options for *                      debug1: Connecting to 192.168.62.129 [192.168.62.129] port 22.
[13:10] <tester_>                     debug1: Connection established.                debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa type -1                  debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1                         debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_dsa type -1                            debug1: identity file /home/tester/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1                          debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_
[13:10] <tester_> 5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5                               debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5 pat OpenSSH*                                   debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0                               debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu5                                    debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent                                 Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[13:10] <tester_>                   lost connection
[13:10] <FloodBot1> tester_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <Zio_Liuc> but I would format the / for the upgrade to 12.04
[13:12] <escott> tester_, a lot of sshd configs prohibit root login. that might be your problem
[13:12] <LinuxMonkey> escott: he quit
[13:14] <compdoc> after I modify sshd_config, how do I restart ssh on U 12.04 ?
[13:14] <vadi> whats going on
[13:14] <escott> compdoc, service ssh restart
[13:14] <Snowie> compdoc: i think i installed the service command.
[13:15] <compdoc> thanks
[13:15] <nh2> "sudo restart ssh" is also possible
[13:15] <raph_ael> hi, since 1204, i notice an overhall slowness of the system and seemingly bad disks accesses, is it a known problem ?
[13:15] <nh2> what is the 12.04 equivalent of gnome-power-manager? The binary is gone :(
[13:15] <dontknow> i want to build chromium myself like stable channel do https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable. but i don't know anything about it. how and where do they chose for stable chromium, how do they build, do they add extra things etc?
[13:16] <k41s3r80> ciao a tutti
[13:16] <Snowie> dontknow: there must be a chromium channel with better answers
[13:16] <k41s3r80> qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi?
[13:17] <Sidewinder> !it | k41s3r80
[13:17] <k41s3r80> grazie mille ubottu!
[13:17] <escott> nh2, probably upowerd
[13:18] <LinuxMonkey> !info gnome-power-manager
[13:18] <DFrostedWang> I need help with quintuple boot. Specifically SDHC card.
[13:19] <tdn> After installing recent updates (new kernel), my LUKS encrypted system does no longer boot. It says: evms_activate not available. If I boot the previous kernel, I do not get this error. How do I fix this?
[13:20] <LinuxMonkey> nh2: its still there see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gnome-power-manager
[13:21] <nh2> LinuxMonkey: yes, that's the package, but it doesn't contain the binary any more for some reason
[13:21] <vadi> i really like linux but it is so hard to get away from windows
[13:21] <badabum> how can i find out in ubuntu where a windows .lnk link is pointing to?
[13:21] <nh2> escott: upowerd? does that also start the gnome applet?
[13:21] <Snowie> vadi: i read a blog post once that said that's the one way to be sure to get help in a linux chat room. what exactly are you having trouble with
[13:22] <escott> nh2, thats the daemon. looks like you can install the old gui if thats what you want
[13:22] <nh2> badabum: I think you can open it in an editor, e.g. gedit
[13:22] <DasEi> tdn: with no expertise on that specific errormessage, seems you new kernel lacks some luks-ability, where is it from ? encryption enabled ? same keyalgo like aes,dsa then previous system ? luks/modules there ?
[13:22] <vadi> wine, i have read wine but not sure how to operate programs in it
[13:22] <badabum> nh2: i tried that, it can't open it
[13:22] <nh2> escott: how? and what is the thing that is shown in unity as the battery applet?
[13:23] <nh2> badabum: hmm true, they seem to be binary
[13:23] <tester> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818/
[13:23] <Snowie> vadi: wine has it's own channel. Not really looked after here. but as always, read the manual. if you WANT to get away from windows, it will take plenty of reading. head to wine.org
[13:23] <tdn> DasEi, well, the kernel is the default one used when installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit alternate. I have not done anything to explicitly enable any luks modules. Neither have I done this in previous versions of Ubuntu since 7.04 and up until now.
[13:24] <nh2> badabum: but if you open it with an editor that can display text inside binaries (e.g. vim), you are at least able to make out the path
[13:24] <vadi> thanks snowie
[13:24] <Snowie> vadi: sorry, winehq.org
[13:24] <vadi> thanks.
[13:25] <DasEi> tdn: raid possibly ?
[13:25] <badabum> nh2: vim gives me a lot of garbled text with lots of @s in it
[13:25] <vadi> i have been doing reading on linux and it is very nice. windows kinda ruins people i believe
[13:25] <tester> hey Snowie: it's me tester_ here is  my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818/
[13:25] <nh2> badabum: yes, but for me it contains the path somewhere in beween
[13:25] <pfalcon> Hi! We're having troubles with accessing EC2 S3-based Ubuntu mirror: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g++_4.5.2-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden
[13:26] <tdn> DasEi, no raid.
[13:26] <pfalcon> anybody might have an idea what can be wrong with it?
[13:26] <badabum> nh2: found it, thanks
[13:26] <LinuxMonkey> tester: first off why are you running as root?
[13:26] <Snowie> vadi: i have come and gone from linux distros many times. BUT, i have been using ubuntu as my desktop now for over 3 years. just generally. lovin it
[13:26] <DasEi> tdn: so I'd boot a live system, then open it from there and, after chrooting in, recheck initramfs, update/grade and then update-grub
[13:26] <tdn> pfalcon, 1: check if you can access it from another site, 2: tcptraceroute it.
[13:27] <tester> LinuxMonkey: i'm sending to the root  user at another machine....
[13:27] <Snowie> tester: all i did was ask what problem you were having, and that's WAY beyond my depth. Anyone?
[13:27] <tdn> DasEi, I can boot the previous kernel (just did that now). Can't I just recheck initramfs, update/grade, etc. from here?
[13:27] <tdn> DasEi, and how to recheck initramfs, and so on?
[13:27] <pfalcon> tdn: essentially, we have it in automated build system in the cloud, and some (and only some) packages started to throw 403 couple of hours ago
[13:28] <tdn> DasEi, I have a terminal open with root shell.
[13:28] <tdn> pfalcon, check tcptraceroute?
[13:28] <DasEi> tdn: the command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade spits no errors ?
[13:28] <tdn> pfalcon, and check if you can reach it from elsewhere. Also, do you use any proxy?
[13:28] <prateekp> why i am getting no rule to make target clean on make clean command
[13:29] <pfalcon> tdn: do you have an idea if Ubuntu EC2 S3 mirror is under maintenance now?
[13:29] <tdn> DasEi, no errors.
[13:29] <Snowie> prateekp: i have no context, but what target are you trying to make clean?
[13:29] <tester> Snowie: wat's wrong ? I'm new . so getting habitual to it might take time....can you help me out ?
[13:29] <DasEi> tdn: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[13:29] <subb1> hi all..
[13:29] <tdn> pfalcon, no, did you check the things I suggested?
[13:30] <tdn> DasEi, no errors on dist-upgrade either.
[13:30] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?
[13:30] <sk1special> okay. i have two hdds. primary via sata and has ubuntu 12.04 , secondary via ide and has windows xp pro. now my xp pro messed up and i had to reinstall. the start up menu list that shows ubuntu , safe mode windows whatever boot options , the shortcut there to windows no longer works im assuming since i reinstalled its a diff address or something ish lol. how do i fix this?
[13:30] <DasEi> tdn: cd /boot/grub && sudo updateinitramfs -u
[13:30] <subb1> I have a toshiba laptop, 12.04 installed with chicony usb cam. which pack do i need to downlaod to test my video cam functioning?
[13:30] <LinuxMonkey> tester: you probably dont have ssh keys on that system
[13:30] <naggu> i have few notepad files saved in windows, when i open them in unix getting wierd characters at end of each line/column
[13:30] <prateekp> snowie: target means
[13:30] <tdn> DasEi, zsh: command not found: updateinitramfs
[13:30] <vlt> subb1: “xawtv” for example
[13:31] <Snowie> tester: if im right, yur trying to ssh to a box that's giving you grief. I use ubuntu as my desktop, so i really dont know how to help. try describing your issue a little bit. a random error wont help the many experts in here give you advice
[13:31] <pfalcon> tdn: tcptraceroute works, its some .deb files referenced in Packages file are gone from their location apparently
[13:31] <tdn> DasEi, mkinitramfs?
[13:31] <DasEi> tdn: cd /boot/grub && sudo update-initramfs -u
[13:31] <DasEi> typo, sry
[13:31] <tdn> pfalcon, can you get those packages from other networks? (from the same mirror)
[13:31] <escott> sk1special, boot linux and run "sudo update-grub"
[13:32] <prateekp> snowie: target means
[13:32] <prateekp> ?
[13:32] <tdn> pfalcon, and I am not interested in if tcptraceroute "works", obviously you can reach the server if you get 403. However, maybe the route is different and the enpoint different. Maybe a transparent proxy?
[13:32] <DasEi> tdn: will take a minute or so, no errors ?
[13:32] <sk1special> escott: on ubuntu now..lemme try it
[13:32] <tester> snowie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818/      every time it gives me conn. reset by peer
[13:32] <pfalcon> tdn: not really, without lot of manual hacking around. again, it's automated system which "just works". or breaks ;-)
[13:32] <sk1special> mmk brb to check
[13:33] <vincenzoml> Hi there, I recall there's a tool that automatically "backports" some packages from +1 distribution
[13:33] <vincenzoml> do you know the name of the tool?
[13:33] <naggu> any name for issue am encountering
[13:33] <DasEi> vincenzoml: enable backports repo
[13:33] <DasEi> !backports
[13:33] <tdn> pfalcon, well, right now it has "broken", so you must do some manual debugging.
[13:33] <vincenzoml> DasEi: no I would like to backport something that is not there
[13:34] <tester> LinuxMonkey: i'v tried by keeping same rsa file at both side and change the sshd_config......but still it gives me error: socket read: conn. reset by peer
[13:34] <Snowie> prateekp: exactly. its telling you your trying to run a clean command. all commands have a target. the thing your executing the command on. apparently that target cant be cleaned, its against the rules. what are you trying to do when you get that error. i gaurantee i wont have the answer, but that's where the problem is
[13:34] <vincenzoml> DasEi: i need a new ocaml package which is in quantal
[13:34] <MrFaggot> Does btrfs require defragmantation?
[13:34] <DasEi> vincenzoml: you want an older version ?
[13:34] <tdn> DasEi, it has finished: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-24-generic
[13:34] <tdn> DasEi, reboot?
[13:34] <vincenzoml> DasEi: no a newer one, I remember there's a program that does it (and of course the result may be good or bad)
[13:34] <DasEi> tdn:sudo update-grub
[13:34] <tdn> pfalcon, which automation system do you use?
[13:34] <kutchbhi> Hello losers!
[13:34] <tdn> DasEi, done
[13:35] <Orpheon> I'm missing libvdpau_nvidia.so, which reinstalling nvidia-current didn't give for some reason. This is (I think) causing my wine to error each time I try to execute somethign that requires DirectX. Any ideas why or what I could do to replace this leak?
[13:35] <kutchbhi> loving your permanently in beta distro
[13:35] <prateekp> i am tring to clean the TMPDIR directory present in /tmp
[13:35] <pfalcon> tdn: https://android-build.linaro.org/jenkins/
[13:35] <kutchbhi> GET a life and switch to windows
[13:36] <MrFaggot> Does the btrfs file system need to be defragmented?
[13:36] <pfalcon> tdn: and before doing any changes, I'd just like to know what's the status of us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com
[13:36] <DasEi> vincenzoml: neither quantal or ocaml tell me anything, the only thing I can think of is either a foreign repo (ough, and then only selective) as a foreign package, as you mentioned, risky (try in vm first)
[13:36] <DasEi> tdn: try reboot
[13:36] <prateekp> snowie: i am tring to clean the TMPDIR directory present in /tmp
[13:36] <Snowie> prateekp: yup, dont have the answer, but google that phrase even. Im sure one of the experts in here is watching me fumble with this and may have an answer
[13:36] <vincenzoml> DasEi: it's prevu!
[13:36] <DasEi> vincenzoml: prevu ?
[13:37] <tdn> pfalcon, ok, I do not know Jenkins. I use MetaConfig myself ( http://www.metaconfig.com )
[13:37] <vincenzoml> DasEi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu
[13:37] <tdn> DasEi, ok.
[13:37] <vincenzoml> but prevu does not exist anymore
[13:37] <vincenzoml> why?
[13:37] <sk1special> escott: awesome t/y.
[13:38] <Ecila> hi!
[13:38] <pfalcon> tdn: any hints about Ubuntu EC2 S3 mirror status, like "it is known to work as of now"/"it is known not to work"/"i don't know"? thanks.
[13:38] <prateekp> ok i ask it again .. why do i get  No rule to make target clean while i do make clean
[13:38] <sk1special> now im trying to upgrade my xp to win 8 ..and after a few failed attempts ive learned its because i need to update my motherboard. id rather use ubuntu for this.. what would be the safest most stable way to update it without killing anything ?
[13:39] <vincenzoml> did anyone ever hear of prevu and do you know what can I use instead of it?
[13:39] <Ecila> Can anyone help me? I've been suggested to install a newer version of ubuntu (currently mine is 10.04), but I don't know how to do so
[13:39] <eightieskhild> !java
[13:39] <Orpheon> !upgrade
[13:40] <Orpheon> !upgrade | Ecila
[13:40] <tmus> having problems with limits - processes started from init.d are not applied limit from /etc/security/limits.conf. have included pam_limit.so to /etc/pam.d/common-session  but to no avail - Anyone?
[13:40] <tester> vincenzoml: wat's prevu? wat does it do ?
[13:40] <tdn> DasEi, I rebooted. Same error.
[13:40] <prateekp> ok i ask it again .. why do i get  No rule to make target clean while i do make clean
[13:40] <tmus> oh, it would appear that only root processes are not handled
[13:40] <Ecila> Orpheon thanks
[13:40] <vincenzoml> tester: it was an ubuntu-specific program, here's a link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu
[13:40] <Ecila> I'll have a look
[13:40] <Orpheon> you're welcome
[13:40] <actionParsnip> prateekp: maybe the clean function isn't in the make file
[13:40] <DasEi> vincenzoml: your link didn't work, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu though, and I can't find such packet either in the pangolin repo, so can't help there
[13:40] <Orpheon> good luck
 I'm missing libvdpau_nvidia.so, which reinstalling nvidia-current didn't give for some reason. This is (I think) causing my wine to error each time I try to execute somethign that requires DirectX. Any ideas why or what I could do to replace this leak?
[13:40] <FloodBot1> Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:41] <Snowie> actionParsnip: ty
[13:41] <tdn> pfalcon, I do not know. I use a different mirror. Try asking your vendor?
[13:41] <prateekp> actionParsnip: the place where i am running this command does not have a make file
[13:41] <anom> Does anyones menu bars go unresponsive from now and again? Like my chrome menu bar, when I try and hit the X it just clicks the desktop behind it?
[13:41] <subb1> vlt, thanks mate !
[13:41] <vincenzoml> DasEi: I posted the very same link...
[13:41] <prateekp> actionParsnip: does it need to have a make file
[13:42] <actionParsnip> prateekp: not strictly
[13:42] <dv310p3r> good morning. I woke up this morning to some major issues. My apport the bug reporting program can't report bugs. It keeps telling me: "Since development is complete for the 'precise' version of ubuntu you should probably use it's support channels instead of this tool.
[13:42] <prateekp> actionParsnip: so should i look for make file now ?
[13:42] <dv310p3r> I thought precise was lts?
[13:43] <actionParsnip> prateekp: could contact the maintainer(s)
[13:43] <actionParsnip> dv310p3r: it is
[13:43] <actionParsnip> !12.04 | dv310p3r
[13:43] <nitzer_> hey, anybody knows how to debug VGA problems? i have some misbehavior in my vga , and don't know how to fix it , maybe is a hardware problem
[13:43] <dv310p3r> actionParsnip, so, any ideas what's going on?
[13:43] <actionParsnip> nitzer_: what are you seeing?
[13:43] <eightieskhild> I have tryed several times
[13:43] <eightieskhild> how do i install java?
[13:43] <actionParsnip> dv310p3r: run:  ubuntu-bug apport     then report a bug
[13:44] <tdn> DasEi, do you have something else I can try?
[13:44] <LinuxMonkey> !java | eightieskhild
[13:44] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_:
[13:44] <eightieskhild> LinuxMonkey, tryed it already
[13:44] <DasEi> tdn: sudo apt-get install pastebinti && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[13:44] <crizis> Snowie[noobspert: running on proprietary ati drivers from fgrlx-updates package (newer than defaults, 12.1 i think), and ye 3d desktops and games work fine
[13:44] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: hey mate. can you post the output of $ lspci | grep VGA
[13:44] <actionParsnip> eightieskhild: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[13:45] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: iea,
[13:45] <eightieskhild> actionParsnip, thanks
[13:45] <tdn> DasEi, http://paste.adora.dk/P2400.html <- my fstab
[13:45] <dv310p3r> how can I switch to the old kernel. Yesterday it was upgraded?
[13:45] <nitzer_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series
[13:45] <actionParsnip> dv310p3r: hold shift at boot
[13:45] <dv310p3r> ty
[13:46] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: were we talking earlier?
[13:46] <eightieskhild> actionParsnip, dpkg: error processing oracle-java7-installer (--configure):
[13:46] <eightieskhild> any clue?
[13:46] <nitzer_> the problem are many, first of all, when the screen is locked for long time, i cant see the login input
[13:46] <tdn> DasEi, http://paste.adora.dk/P2401.txt <- my /etc/crypttab
[13:46] <actionParsnip> eightieskhild: did you add the ppa?
[13:46] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: noup, my first time here :)
[13:46] <eightieskhild> I did
[13:46] <eightieskhild> it downloaded
[13:47] <nitzer_> now i'm experiencing some misbehavior with google chrome, when i scroll up or down, just a segment of the windows moves, the other part stays like if i didn't do anything
[13:47] <actionParsnip> eightieskhild: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html   is the more manual way, make sure you remove the ppa
[13:47] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: ok, this is for the rest of the room, but someone else had the same card earlier 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
[13:48] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: it's probably a cheap card ;p
[13:48] <sk1special> nitzer_: are you trying to do anything special? i used xwinwrap to have a screen saver as my desktop and when its running my windows do stuff like that
[13:48] <tdn> DasEi, does that give you anything?
[13:48] <nitzer_> no, just installed 12.04
[13:48] <DasEi> tdn: it seems the initram of your newer kernel doesn't include the evms support the older kernel does, I'm overasked how to tell that to an existing initramfs, your fstab tells luks was there before
[13:49] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: you running open or proprietry?
[13:49] <DasEi> tdn: behind my knowledge : http://evms.sourceforge.net/install/root.html
[13:49] <tdn> DasEi, ok, so where does that leave me?
[13:49] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: installed the additional drivers
[13:49] <dv310p3r> ok, I just realized that the new kernel .24 is crashing my gpu.
[13:49] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: do you get the same behaviour with both?
[13:49] <DasEi> tdn: find someone experienced with evms, get initram to support it
[13:50] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: let me see the version ...
[13:50] <dv310p3r> How can I report this as I switched back to my old gpu. And the apport thing kept crashing and wasn't reporting it when in that kernel.
[13:50] <tdn> DasEi, ok, but is this an intended change in the kernel package frmo Ubuntu? That it does not include evms anymore?
[13:50] <dv310p3r> sorry, switch back to my old kernel
[13:50] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: didn't installed the others , but the problem with the unlock had it with the propetary drivers also in 11.10
[13:50] <DasEi> tdn: as said, over my knowledge
[13:50] <tdn> DasEi, ok.
[13:50] <tdn> DasEi, thanks for your help.
[13:51] <dash> hey guys. Any of you know if the ubuntu installer images support console login? I booted the Oneiric installer image on my mx53 board and I want to get to a command prompt without waiting for the full install to complete
[13:51] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: i solved alot of my dramas with the 2d desktop. still running it now
[13:51] <dash> but I don't know what username/password it's configured with
[13:52] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: it may solve the problems, but is not how i like to use it, but i'll try, no fix arround?
[13:52] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: let me check if 2d solves something
[13:52] <acicula> dash you mean a virtual console or a serial terminal?
[13:52] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: then i'm going to instal propetary drivers :)
[13:52] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: thanks :)
[13:53] <dash> acicula: a virtual console
[13:53] <acicula> eds i see this post form 2008 about evms being dropped from ubuntu http://www.michele.me/blog/archives/2008/02/evms-bit-my-ubuntu-upgrade/
[13:53] <acicula> i guess its been gone awhile?
[13:53] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: if you've tired 2 different drivers and have the same issue, then i say it's not the drivers. I'm NOT a linux guru or ubuntu expert, that just makes solid sense to me
[13:54] <acicula> dash: pressing ctrl-alt-F2 etc doesnt give you a vt?
[13:54] <loganrun> how do I upgrade to the latest release of Ubuntu
[13:54] <dash> acicula: it does but it prompts for login
[13:54] <loganrun> I saw a pop up message about it once, but no longer
[13:54] <dash> acicula: and i don't know what accounts the installer has.
[13:54] <acicula> dash: euh, try all F keys, think one of them should just give you a login
[13:54] <acicula> or hit enter
[13:54] <acicula> or we
[13:55] <acicula> should not need a password for those
[13:55] <wormmd> My local terminal is rxvt-unicode-256color, but I'm ssh'd into a server that doesn't know what type of terminal that is, so there are various functions that don't work. How do I update TERMINFO or TERMCAP on the remote server?
[13:55] <DFrostedWang> Do I nee the HPTools partition on my Windows drive?
[13:55] <DFrostedWang> I can only have 4
[13:55] <sk1special> anyone know the best/safest/most stable way to update my motherboard?
[13:56] <dash> acicula: it's the usual normal-linux setup, 6 VCs and X
[13:56] <acicula> sk1special: you mean the bios?
[13:56] <dash> acicula: first 6 running login
[13:56] <acicula> dash: ah its an existing installation?
[13:56] <dash> acicula: no, this is the installer.
[13:56] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: it didn't resolved the problems with the scroll on the screen
[13:56] <dash> acicula: I _have_ an existing installation on an external disk, which I would like to poke at :)
[13:56] <sk1special> acicula: yeah to whatever the current version is without killing everything like my windows did :]
[13:57] <dash> acicula: but my boot media got screwed up
[13:57] <DFrostedWang> Do I nee the HPTools partition on my Windows drive?
[13:57] <DFrostedWang> need*
[13:57] <dash> acicula: so i thought the installer would help me :)
[13:57] <Snowie[noobspert> loganrun: default install? just hit the Super(windows key) and then type update, it will let you know there is a latest version
[13:57] <acicula> sk1special: the bios manual ussually has a procedure listed for that, typically its an usb based update or a program you can run from windows
[13:57] <acicula> dash: ah
[13:57] <LinuxMonkey> DFrostedWang: You can have more than 4 partitions on a hard drive
[13:57] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: does the down arrow scroll down?
[13:57] <DFrostedWang> It's a Not on mine
[13:58] <acicula> dash: euh, you can use the installer to boot your own system directly or drop to a live system and then chroot into your system
[13:58] <DFrostedWang> Not on mine.*
[13:58] <dash> acicula: that's what I want to do
[13:58] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: iep, just a part of the window, like if there's a box
[13:58] <sk1special> acicula : yeah i know how to do it in windows..but i like the way ubuntu works alot better with stuff like updateing lol. was wondering if theres a good way to do it on here
[13:58] <odinswand> hello, i need to forward email for a certain user to a hotmail address - is there an easy way to do thet?? please help!!
[13:58] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: wait, when you say scroll, you mean its all over the place flickering?
[13:58] <dash> acicula: but it launches the installer gui on boot and doesn't offer me a chance to get at a commandline :)
[13:58] <branant> is it possible to switch to a new kernel without rebooting the machine
[13:58] <DFrostedWang> LinuxMonkey: How do I do it, then?
[13:58] <nitzer_> Snowie[noobspert: something like that,
[13:58] <odinswand> hello, i need to forward email for a certain user to a hotmail address - is there an easy way to do that?? please help!!
[13:59] <acicula> sk1special: technically possible yes, stick with the procedures your mobo manufacturer suplies though. bricked mobo's are pretty useless
[13:59] <dash> odinswand: sure. is this email you're receiving via SMTP?
[13:59] <loganrun> Snowie[noobspert, thanks
[13:59] <odinswand> dash: yes
[13:59] <dash> odinswand: what MTA are you using?
[13:59] <DFrostedWang> I shrunk /dev/sda2 witch had windows on it. When i went to add it to the table it said the partition table could only have 4
[13:59] <acicula> dash euh, when you boot the livecd you should get the choice for installing ubuntu or booting a live cd, etc
[13:59] <odinswand> dash: mta?
[13:59] <Sidewinder> DFrostedWang, You might want to check out the differences between Primary, Extended, and Logical partitions.
[13:59] <dash> acicula: i don't have a live cd, i have a microsd card with an installer image on it
[13:59] <sk1special> acicula: ah yeah..thats why i wanted to do it here haha. sudo apt-get install awesome new bios. trying to upgrade to win 8 but need to upgrade that and last time it killed my drive
[14:00] <DFrostedWang> Sidewinder: How?
[14:00] <acicula> dash: just the kernel and initrd or something?
[14:00] <dash> acicula: this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5/QuickStart
[14:00] <wormmd> DFrostedWang: Google will help here. You can only have 4 primary partitions, but an larger number of extended partitions.
[14:00] <DFrostedWang> /dev/sda2 is primary. /dev/sda3 is extended
[14:00] <acicula> dash: right
[14:00] <DFrostedWang> i only have 4 counting the extended
[14:01] <DFrostedWang> It says that's the max
[14:01] <DFrostedWang> Let me try again...
[14:01] <odinswand> dash: postfix?
[14:01] <Sidewinder> DFrostedWang, This should explain all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[14:01] <wormmd> DFrostedWang: are you trying to add extended partitions or primary partitions? Make sure you specify.
[14:02] <dash> odinswand: hmm, i am not a postfix expert. but I believe you can edit /etc/aliases and add "youruser: someuser@hotmail.com"
[14:02] <dash> odinswand: and it'll use that for forwarding
[14:02] <dash> odinswand: or you can put "someuser@hotmail.com" in /home/youruser/.forward
[14:02] <Snowie[noobspert> nitzer_: when did you first get this problem
[14:04] <DFrostedWang> I need to add one for xubuntu
[14:04] <alexis> hey, I 'm trying to change my police font on unity, but can't find the dialog to do that, any pointer?
[14:05] <wormmd> alexis: police font?
[14:05] <alexis> the size of the font, sorry
[14:05] <alexis> font is "police" in french, hence my mistake.
[14:05] <wormmd> alexis: interesting...
[14:05] <odinswand> hello world, i need the help of a system admin on Skype - i can pay. please let me know if you can help, i have no idea how to do some basic things! please help
[14:05] <Onixs> police
[14:06] <actionParsnip> in myunity, can you change stuff there
[14:06] <eightieskhild> ok
[14:06] <Onixs> run!
[14:06] <LinuxMonkey> alexis: it would be done in Universal Access
[14:06] <wormmd> actionParsnip: thanks, I don't run Unity :)
[14:06] <actionParsnip> wormmd: what do you use?
[14:06] <alexis> LinuxMonkey: ok, that works
[14:06] <odinswand> hello world, i need the help of a system admin on Skype - i can pay. please let me know if you can help, i have no idea how to do some basic things! please help
[14:07] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?
[14:07] <wormmd> actionParsnip: Running Lubuntu 12.04 with the awesome window manager.
[14:07] <fidel_> vlt: talking about unity?
[14:07] <actionParsnip> wormmd: nice, so you will want to change the font in awesome's config ?
[14:07] <actionParsnip> odinswand: just ask, it's free
[14:08] <vlt> fidel_: Yes. Is there something else than Unity?
[14:08] <wormmd> actionParsnip: That was a question from alexis, I was investigating, but thanked you for your answer to alexis because I'm not familiar with Unity.
[14:08] <DFrostedWang> I can't seem to resize my windows partition of my hard drive. It thinks I want to make another primary when I just want an extended.
[14:08] <fidel_> vlt: for sure - unity is just one option - the default one - others might be selected at the login screen. thats why i was asking if you are using unity in the first place
[14:09] <vlt> DFrostedWang: What did you do?
[14:09] <vlt> fidel_: I installed a basic Ubuntu debootstrap install and the pkg “ubuntu-desktop” so far.
[14:10] <Sidewinder> DFrostedWang, I certainly hope that you defragmented your NTFS partition, prior to resizing it..
[14:10] <DFrostedWang> I'm using KDE Partition Manager to make a partition for Xubuntu
[14:11] <ThinkCigar> Hi. After I installed Ubuntu 12.04 automatically, How can I change the mount points of /boot & swap? Those Partitions exists in before OS Ubuntu 11.10.
[14:12] <vlt> ThinkCigar: Edit /etc/fstab
[14:13] <ThinkCigar> Any details?
[14:13] <eightieskhild> so i need java working
[14:13] <ThinkCigar> vlt,
[14:13] <eightieskhild> 64 bit
[14:13] <eightieskhild> i can't find instruations that work...
[14:13] <ThinkCigar> vlt, Any details?
[14:13] <tester> i'm not able to do scp file transfer or any other ssh job like sftp .....any help ???   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000818
[14:13] <JPeterson> what's the equivalent name of debian's 'unstable' apt repo?
[14:13] <vlt> ThinkCigar: Should be quite self-explanatory.
[14:14] <thiebaude> !java
[14:14] <JPeterson> (what do i put in suources.list to get the latest unstable code)
[14:14] <Darkenvy> Hello, I'm trying to play a DVD on ubuntu12.04 but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/SqZP1i0J
[14:14] <Sidewinder> !fstab | ThinkCigar
[14:14] <JPeterson> what's the equivalent names for oldstable, stable, testing, unstable?
[14:15] <nemo> Ok. I'm only mildly annoyed that 12.04 installed dnsmasq w/o telling me, and broke my pdns setup and took me a while to figure out why one machine was working but the others weren't
[14:15] <ThinkCigar> vlt, Thinks.
[14:15] <nemo> My actual question though is.  dnsmasq has --listen-address=127.0.0.1
[14:15] <nemo> where is that set so I can change it
[14:15] <actionParsnip> nemo: yeah it can help but can cause isues
[14:15] <petsounds> JPeterson: ask in #debian
[14:15] <fidel_> JPeterson: debian != ubuntu in that area
[14:15] <nemo> actionParsnip: I had pdnsd set, and it could not longer start since dnsmasq had swiped the port
[14:15] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Darkenvy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[14:16] <nemo> I don't mind trying dnsmasq, I just want to know where it is configured so I can rebind it to the external interface
[14:16] <ThinkCigar> Think you all.
[14:16] <Darkenvy> Thanks
[14:16] <JPeterson> petsounds: why would i ask debian what ubuntu's APT repos are called?
[14:16] <nemo> actionParsnip: there is no dnsmasq.conf anywhere.
[14:16] <nemo> actionParsnip: and a grep in init.d does not reveal any mention of dnsmasq
[14:16] <actionParsnip> nemo: /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[14:16] <nemo> actionParsnip: yeah. no
[14:16] <nemo> actionParsnip: although I see /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf in the startup line
[14:17] <nemo> actionParsnip: I doubt that'll let me override the commandline param though. I'd like to know how the service is being started
[14:17] <LinuxMonkey> !repos | JPeterson
[14:17] <fidel_> vlt: regarding the logout menu - this should depend on the selected login-session. personaly i dont use unity - so i am not sure if apps like myunity allow you to change the unity-logout menu or not
[14:17] <wormmd> My local terminal is rxvt-unicode-256color, but I'm ssh'd into a server that doesn't know what type of terminal that is, so there are various functions that don't work. How do I update TERMINFO or TERMCAP on the remote server?
[14:17] <Orpheon> what does it mean if compiz spits out "(compiz:3091): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" before crashing?
[14:18] <Snowie_NOOBspert> ok, so im trying to help out on here for a change with the same noobie questions in know ive asked. Where can i find a complete manual for Ubotto
[14:18] <Orpheon> !ubottu | Snowie_NOOBspert
[14:18] <JPeterson> LinuxMonkey: can u answer the question directlly?
[14:19] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Orpheon, ty ;
[14:19] <JPeterson> what's the equivalent names for oldstable, stable, testing, unstable?
[14:19] <JPeterson> no links
[14:19] <JPeterson> print the answer
[14:19] <petsounds> JPeterson: because you don't do that (change release sources) in ubuntu.
[14:19] <nemo> actionParsnip: doesn't look like /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf lets one configure it either. only disable it
[14:19] <Sidewinder> Snowie_NOOBspert, Or, you could always open a private chat with her. ;-)
[14:19]  * nemo sighs
[14:19] <nemo> why do they do this sort of stuff and not tell people.
[14:20] <OerHeks> JPeterson, testing/unstable = proposed
[14:20] <JPeterson> OerHeks: what's th latest apt repo?
[14:20] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Sidewinder, yeah, but i point to NOOBspert in my title. just dont want to break anything. i know how painful it can be ;)
[14:21] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Sidewinder, at least one of you might stop me if i break something
[14:22] <OerHeks> JPeterson, latest are just in the regular repo's.
[14:22] <OerHeks> i guess
[14:22] <Orpheon> I'm starting to get really confused with problems I have between opengl, wine, nvidia drivers and copiz
[14:22] <Orpheon> *compiz
[14:22] <Sidewinder> Snowie_NOOBspert, "Breaking something" with the bot is not very likely, but I understand what you're sayin'.
[14:22] <nemo> actionParsnip: hm. looks like it creates that config on the fly. grrr.
[14:23] <actionParsnip> nemo: there is a how to in order to disable it
[14:23] <nemo> ok. does *anyone* know how to change this dnsmasq in 12.04 from using 127.0.0.1 to eth0
[14:23] <nemo> actionParsnip: I know how to do *that*
[14:23] <actionParsnip> nemo: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-dnsmasq-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[14:23] <nemo> actionParsnip: the thing is I was already using a dns cacher.
[14:23] <Darkenvy> got DVDs to run Thanks Snowie_NOOBspert
[14:23] <nemo> actionParsnip: I don't mind using theirs - I just want to know how to configure the dang thing
[14:24] <JPeterson> it's amazing that no one understand a simple question, the equivalents of oldstable, stable, testing, unstable is natty oneiric precise quantal
[14:24] <nemo> actionParsnip: something they apparently are making not at all obvious or documented or maybe possible
[14:24] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Darkenvy, np :D
[14:24] <Sidewinder> Snowie_NOOBspert, Yes, just open a private dialog window with her; as you just did with me.. :)
[14:24] <wormmd> JPeterson: That is not true. Those are releases.
[14:24] <Sidewinder> Snowie_NOOBspert, Just make sure that you give her some cookies.
[14:25] <eightieskhild> !repos
[14:25] <actionParsnip> nemo: could remove that config then use normal dnsmasq
[14:25] <fidel_> JPeterson: maybe cause you are using terms from the debian world - while at least some inhere are more focused on ubuntu -> not used to all debian-terms
[14:26] <nemo> ok. that was not at all helpful :-/
[14:26] <nemo> oh well
[14:27] <usalabs> hi all, anyone know how to remove the power icon at the bottom right corner of the login screen?, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2 (unity sucks big time), when someone is logged in, and they press keys CTRL-ALT-L to lock screen, but anyone can touch a key and click on 'Switch User' then hit the power icon and select shutdown, and all data not saved would be gone
[14:28] <JPeterson> where are the small installation images? like 50 MB for online installation
[14:28] <killer> usalabs :i think teh system will resume your user account where u left
[14:28] <usalabs> I hope so, lol
[14:29] <fidel_> JPeterson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:29] <EvanR> is anyone else having problems with postfix sasl auth after upgrading
[14:29] <JPeterson> fidel_: thx
[14:30] <Sidewinder> usalabs, The 'pain in the neck' answer is to train all of the users to get in the habit of saving their work, often.
[14:30] <nemo> usalabs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772220 ?
[14:30] <Orpheon> wine cannot execute programs that require DirectX, it warns that it cannot initialize OpenGL. Then compiz crashes. As I'm on a 64-bit system, I suspected my 32-bit opengl libs were not completely there, and I was right: Looking at the .xsession_errors file, I saw that I lacked libvdpau_nvidia.so. After some adventures with installing different things, I finally managed to settle on nvidia-current that had that file. The wine error didn't
[14:30] <Orpheon>  disappear, and compiz errors changed. This is a log of the entire compiz session from start, the executing of the wine program and then the crashing (I used &> to pipe): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1000938/ The wine error looks like this: http://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD  (particularily important are I think the lines 345-348).  Any ideas?
[14:31] <usalabs> Sidewinder training and them doing are 2 different things lol,,, ever got an electronic gadget and not read the instructions? lol
[14:32] <Sidewinder> :)
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> instructions are for chumps
[14:32] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[14:33] <Orpheon> any help guys?
[14:33] <Sidewinder> Is that commin' from the "Head Chump?" ;-)
[14:33] <nemo> aaagh. dang upgrade wiped my pdnsd config too :( and I didn't get a prompt for it. lesson learned, back up /etc when working w/ ubuntu
[14:33] <usalabs> nemo I want to remove the 'shutdown/restart' button on the login screen, not disable switch user
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> nemo: indeed, its about 3Mb in size
[14:34] <nemo> usalabs: your question described ctrl-alt-l and switch user...
[14:34]  * nemo shrugs
[14:34] <nemo> oh. whew. there *is* still the dpkg version
[14:35] <nemo> er. no. n/m
[14:35] <nemo> that's something totally different :(.  it is gone.
[14:36] <usalabs> nemo, yes, true, but if there's more than a few users, and they switch by pressing CTRL-ALT-L then click switch user, but while the screen is locked, anyone can touch any key, then click on switch user, then click the power icon, and select restart or shutdown,,,,, I want the power icon completely removed, so that other users can stilll switch, but no-one can restart or shut it down while screen is locked
[14:37] <nemo> usalabs: m'k.  seems disabling switching would be more reliable if you don't trust your users
[14:37] <nemo> usalabs: and after all, isn't like there's anything preventing people from just pressing the power switch
[14:37] <nemo> unless you disconnect that too
[14:38] <nemo> I can't believe ubuntu makes it this hard to configure dnsmasq - whatever happened to using /etc and init.d and whatnot? I've grepped through all of /etc and see no hint of the stuff I see on the dnsmasq commandline
[14:38] <usalabs> nemo I trust the users, but not the people around them,,,,, the pc's are in an air conditioned, locked unit
[14:38] <Sidewinder> usalabs, Not to ask a totally dumb question, but even after removing said icons and controls, what's to prevent some one from simply pulling the plug? If you know what I mean..
[14:39] <nemo> usalabs: ok... so the people *around* them are the ones logging things out?
[14:39] <nemo> 'cause you know, you can always just do sudo shutdown
[14:39] <nemo> usalabs: once you allow user switching, people can shut down through all kinds of ways
[14:39] <usalabs> not if the users are not in the sudoers list
[14:39] <nemo> usalabs: ctrl-alt-del on a console
[14:40] <nemo> usalabs: local is special powers
[14:40] <nemo> magic sysrq
[14:40] <nemo> usalabs: you have lots of stuff to disable
[14:40] <nemo> have fun
[14:40] <mneptok> usalabs: the main point is that people have physical access to the machine. with physical access, you cannot prevent a shutdown or reboot. not without physical locks.
[14:40] <usalabs> hmmm, maybe I should just use kiosk software
[14:40] <nemo> mneptok: and even with physical locks there are a lot of ways to bounce a machine besides the gui that he has to take care of
[14:41] <nemo> usalabs: there are kiosk linux distros yes
[14:41] <nemo> they probably disable sysrq and ctrl-alt-del
[14:41] <eightieskhild> !repos
[14:41] <fabiobik> does anyone knows how to start PCSC daemon?
[14:41] <nemo> they probably don't have user switching either since that'd be pretty silly :)
[14:41] <ThinkCigar> How to enable the laptop-mode-tools? my laptop's screen is always on top degree bright
[14:41] <fabiobik> to read rfid card?
[14:42] <usalabs> nemo I'll look into kiosk distros, thanks
[14:42] <nemo> ugh. I cannot find where ubuntu hid the dnsmasq config :(
[14:42] <nemo> screwit. sticking w/ pdnsd - works good enough
[14:43] <silentpj> hello, I've problem with ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64 installation on esxi5, grub-pc install failes every time. Does anybody know hot to install it properly?
[14:44] <oldereagle> anybody else experiencing that Filezilla freezes on Ubuntu 12.04? It started a couple of days ago. It randomly freeze and I have to kill it to be able to use it again.
[14:44] <scotty^> silentpj: pardon my lack of knowledge, but what is esxi5?
[14:45] <LinuxMonkey> oldereagle: I dont have that issue myself and I use it every day
[14:45] <silentpj> vmware hypervizor
[14:45] <fidel_> oldereagle: no issues so far. do you get any error output? tried to start it from a cli? log-output?
[14:45] <scotty^> ok\
[14:45] <mneptok> oldereagle: invoke it from the command-line and see what errors get generated.
[14:45] <oldereagle> mneptok, ok.
[14:45] <fidel_> oldereagle: there is #filezilla as well - maybe a good additional place to ask
[14:46] <oldereagle> fidel_, ok. Thanks
[14:46] <oldereagle> Thanks to LinuxMonkey and mneptok also.
[14:47] <silentpj> scotty^: http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/esxi-and-esx/overview.html
[14:51] <mario_> chi mi aiuta
[14:53] <LinuxMonkey> !italian | mario_
[14:55] <esuave> how can i make a connection to an FTPS server via command line?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> esuave: is 'sftp' a command?
[14:56] <esuave> ah yes thanks ActionParsnip
[14:57] <beandog> esuave: depends on what you wanna do
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> esuave: or you can use scp
[14:57] <esuave> connect to an SFTP server on a specific port
[14:57] <esuave> to send over files
[14:57] <beandog> I like yafc
[14:57] <beandog> yafc sftp://user:pass@server.com/
[14:57] <esuave> so ActionParsnip, if i telnet IP PORT.. that should verify connectivity correct?
[14:58] <beandog> but rsync / scp would work fine too
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> esuave: yes, telnet will connect to any socket
[14:58] <esuave> cool thanks guys
[14:58] <adam_> wow
[14:59] <adam_> #bandung
[15:01] <esuave> also, how can i show the routing table with just IP's.. not hostnames
[15:02] <Pumpkin-> esuave: most likely adding a -n flag to whatever you were already doing
[15:02] <esuave> coo thanks Pumpkin-
[15:03] <eyjay1991> Guys quick question. I'm using fallback mode in ubuntu 12.04. Can i somehow remove the bottom panel and replace with docky?
[15:03] <NoVoteLoss> eyjay1991 i gave up on unity and use GNOME shell with docky
[15:04] <eyjay1991> @NoVoteLoss Yes, I'm using Gnome Shell, but my question is, how can i remove the bottom panel? Right Click Menu doesn't give me something
[15:05] <syria_> Could you please guys help me with creating an ssh tunnel using putty?
[15:07] <syria_> please?
[15:07] <olskolirc> syria there are plenty of youtube videos on putty and tor
[15:08] <olskolirc> putty with tor syria_
[15:08] <eyjay1991> to answer my question above, to delete/add a panel in fallback mode in ubuntu 12.04, the key is. SUPER KEY+ALT+Right Click
[15:09] <syria_> olskolirc:  I have a vps server and I want to create an ssh channel with it using putty.
[15:11] <syria_> olskolirc:  Do you have an idea about this please?
[15:12] <valentin> salut
[15:12] <syria_> !en
[15:12] <syria_> :P
[15:12] <valentin> Hello
[15:12] <LinuxMonkey> syria_: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html
[15:13] <syria_> LinuxMonkey: Thank you for your help, I have googled this subject before but the version I am using is different from that one in the tutorial. :( .
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | syria_
[15:14] <LinuxMonkey> should generally be somewhat the same
[15:14] <syria_> ActionParsnip:  I don't need VNC at all. !
[15:14] <ThinkCigar> !fstab
[15:14] <syria_> ActionParsnip:  I am talking about ssh tunnel.
[15:14] <LinuxMonkey> syria_: what version you using?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> syria_: yes but it tells you how to make an SSH tunnel. !
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> syria_: try reading
[15:15] <syria_> ActionParsnip:  I see, Thank you.
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> syria_: thats why I gave the factoid
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> syria_: makes sense doesn't it
[15:16] <wormmd> ActionParsnip: that may not have been immediately apparent to him, given that he asked about one thing and you linked him to another. Maybe explain yourself in a little more detail next time.
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> wormmd: reading still helps
[15:16] <wormmd> ActionParsnip: so does being concise.
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> wormmd: it says the words 'SSH tunne' which is required
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> wormmd: so the same process applies and is useful
[15:17] <wormmd> ActionParsnip: The page was about VNC. He was asking about an SSH tunnel. How could he have gleaned that the VNC page contained information about an SSH tunnel had you not said, "The instructions are there, even though that topic isn't what you were asking about?"
[15:19] <Yoshimi-pink> how can i remove the ubuntu software center without uninstalling my DE
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> wormmd: because the factoid says it is advised to go through an SSH tunnel, so its safe to assume that the link contains a how to on SSH tunnelling
[15:20] <wormmd> !vnc
[15:20] <wormmd> ActionParsnip: Vaguely.
[15:20] <beandog> Heh, I read that as VLC and was like ... whut?
[15:23] <Fat-Thing> is there any tools for extracting email adds on a website?
[15:23] <ikonia> extracting email ads ?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Fat-Thing: you could download the page then grep it I guess
[15:24] <Fat-Thing> http://www.spotht.com/2010/11/how-to-extract-email-addresses-from-web.html <--- i got this ... is it safe command in terminal?
[15:25] <Keo-w> i just want to install the bacula client and not the entire bacula server package onto one of my ubuntu servers. I'm assuming apt-get install bacula-client will do the trick?
[15:25] <ikonia> Fat-Thing: not helping you harvest emails
[15:26] <Fat-Thing> :(
[15:27] <wormmd> Fat-Thing: why do you want to do this?
[15:28] <Fat-Thing> wormmd, i need an onlinejob :( even this kind of job just to earn for me to support my siblings on their tuitions
[15:29] <ikonia> Fat-Thing: get a job with some sort of moral value rather than helping spammers
[15:29] <ikonia> we will not help you
[15:29] <deejay31> Hey everyone!
[15:32] <eyjay1991> goodnight! =)
[15:34] <aciduk1> Hi all , looking for some advise on how to network boot ubuntu that is not official and has been repackaged
[15:34] <aciduk1> as im getting errors with the Release gpg file
[15:37] <Vivekananda> hello everyone, How do I redirect a cron job so it is displayed in a terminal?
[15:37] <sunbird> anyone seen this error when (attempting to) start an application - No GSettings schemas are installed.
[15:37] <NoVoteLoss> anyone reccomend a usenet server for linux/ubuntu?
[15:37] <sunbird> this is trying to run pidgin, which worked last night, but won't start up today.
[15:38] <gorancia> how can i protect myself against sniffing in ubuntu?
[15:39] <Sidewinder> Use a hankie?
[15:39] <Sidewinder> Sorry..
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> Vivekananda: the answer is "with difficulty". If you know the pts number of the session you want to display it on, you can just redirect the output to /dev/pts/$WHATEVER
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> however, given the dynamic nature of pts numbers, this might not be so useful
[15:39] <LinuxMonkey> NoVoteLoss: server as in you want to run your own ?
[15:40] <Pumpkin-> getting it to display on the correct pts for what you actually want could be harder.
[15:40] <NoVoteLoss> sorry LinuxMonkey, i meant one that i can connect to to get info on linux\ubuntu. i dont know much about usenet
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: tried renaming ~/.purple
[15:40] <pratz> hey guys how to disable speaker beep sound in ubuntu
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: then rerun the app, you'll get default config but it may start the app
[15:41] <Vivekananda> Pumpkin:I just meant to launch a display in the foreground whenever a scheduled cron job is run. If it is difficult then can writing a shell script and calling the script from the cron be easier?
[15:41] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: doesn't work, same error.
[15:41] <pratz> hey guys how to disable speaker beep sound in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> pratz: if you run:  lsmod | grep pc     do you see pcspkr
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: what is the output of:  lsb_relese -sc
[15:42] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: i'm running precise x64
[15:42] <pratz> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/vip0W75F here output
[15:42] <macmartine> I'm on Ubuntu, following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html Under "Configuring SASL" it asks me to change a block in dovecot.conf. I don't see a socket listen { master { section anywhere. So where do I put it?
[15:42] <Vivekananda> Also can someone point me to a good tutorial on shell scripting for beginner and advanced users
[15:42] <LinuxMonkey> NoVoteLoss: check out xpn newsreader if your looking to read/write
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: if you run:  apt-cache policy pidgin    what is the full version number of pidgin have installed?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: i'd ask in #bash
[15:43] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: 1:2.10.3-0ubuntu1
[15:43] <nasello> lista
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[15:43] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: also, this worked fine when i upgraded a week ago, and continued working last night. it was broken this morning when i woke up.
[15:45] <Sidewinder> Vivekananda, Perhaps try here: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/part1.html
[15:45] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: sorry, that doesn't work either. same error.
[15:45] <lvlv> hello,my ubuntu is 12.04.3.2.0-24, i want to install the ck patch,any idea?
[15:45] <lvlv> 64bits
[15:46] <ikonia> lvlv: what ck patch ?
[15:46] <Tunn3l> damn.. moonlight doesnt work properly :(
[15:46] <ikonia> lvlv: what's the actual issue ?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: did it upgrade the package ok?
[15:46] <lvlv> just the
[15:46] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: yes.
[15:46] <lvlv> a patch that is very coooooool
[15:47] <ikonia> lvlv: a patch for what ?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> sunbird: ok I suggest you roll back and report a bug
[15:47] <lvlv> linus say it is a killer frture
[15:47] <lvlv> feture
[15:47] <ikonia> lvlv: what is the problem/what do you want to achieve
[15:47] <lvlv> feature
[15:47] <ikonia> lvlv: you need to give us details if you want help
[15:47] <Tunn3l> moonlight doesnt show any video which uses silverlight 5 :(
[15:47] <Tunn3l> arghh
[15:47]  * Tunn3l blame me
[15:47] <lvlv> i want to install the ck patch
[15:47] <ikonia> lvlv: what ck patch, a patch for what
[15:47] <ikonia> lvlv: you need to give us info
[15:47] <sunbird> ActionParsnip: thanks. will do.
[15:47] <madzik> hello, could anyone tell me how to recompile alsa?
[15:48] <lvlv> aaaaa,
[15:48] <Tunn3l> madzik just compile it again?
[15:48] <ikonia> madzik: that's quite a big ask, why do you need to recompile alsa ?
[15:48] <lvlv> plz wait a minute
[15:48] <ikonia> madzik: alsa is pretty important to the sound system in ubuntu, are you sure you want to recompile it ?
[15:49] <madzik> @Tunn3l @ikonia i need to intall pencore-amr0.1 because my app won't work otherwise
[15:49] <ikonia> madzik: ok, so why does that need alsa to be recompiled ?
[15:49] <madzik> @ikonia to apply changes
[15:50] <ikonia> madzik: isn't pencore-amr0.1 a seperate application ?
[15:50] <ikonia> (I don't know, I'm asking)
[15:50] <lvlv> http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ his website
[15:51] <madzik> @ikonia i am pretty new to ubuntu too http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/ that's what people recommend in a discussion group, first install this opencore and then recompile alsa
[15:51] <ikonia> madzik: give me a moment to look
[15:51] <madzik> @ikonia : do you know any tutorial that would guide me step by step how to do it?
[15:51] <syria_> LinuxMonkey:  Hi
[15:51] <madzik> @ikonia, take your time, thx!
[15:51] <ikonia> lvlv: that's a kernel patch - you don't want to be playing with that
[15:52] <lvlv> ikonia, why?
[15:52] <syria_> LinuxMonkey:  Do you have 5 miunutes for me please? I need your help regarding the ssh tunnel.
[15:52] <lvlv> my pc is very hoooooooot!!!
[15:53] <ikonia> lvlv: because rebuilding a kernel to an unsupported state is nothing something I'd advise doing
[15:53] <Tunn3l> syria_, what is your Q?
[15:53] <Tunn3l> I agree with ikonia
[15:53] <mneptok> lvlv: you already have a scheduler in the kernel.
[15:53] <ikonia> madzik: I can't see any information on that website that says the application needs alsa re-copmiling
[15:54] <ikonia> madzik: I've not used this app before so I don't know, but I can't see anything that suggests alsa needs re-compiling
[15:54] <stefano__> dovrei programmare sulla porta porallela qualcuno sa come si fa vedere l' indirizzo della porta?
[15:54] <scotty^> madzik: AMR-NB and AMR-WB decoding is in recent versions of one of the gstreamer plugins (or in gst-ffmpeg).  Or do want AMR-NB and AMR-WB encoding?
[15:54] <Vivekananda> what did I miss. Lost internet connection temporarily
[15:54] <syria_> Tunn3l:  I live in syria and my country is forbidden on apple app store, I want to create an ssh tunnel with my vps to bypass the settings!
[15:54] <lvlv> mneptok, you mean that i donot need to install the patch??
[15:54] <Tunn3l> syria_, what system are you using for setting up a tunnel?
[15:54] <wormmd> !en | stefano__
[15:54] <lvlv> ikonia, oooooohhhh
[15:54] <lvlv> ikonia, hot hot hot !!
[15:55] <syria_> Tunn3l: I usually use teminal, ssh -D port user@address.
[15:55] <ikonia> I don't know what you are talking about
[15:55] <LinuxMonkey> syria_:  what ya need?
[15:55] <unkn-error> where are the fortune files/database stored? I see the forune is in /usr/games but I guess there should be some text/files/database somewhere from which fortune read's them and display
[15:55] <stefano__> addres parallel port terminal comand?
[15:55] <mneptok> lvlv: i mean that the BF scheduler was a proof-of-concept by Cin, and that is was never meant to replace CFS.
[15:55] <Tunn3l> syria_, but you need a tunnel for that
[15:55] <pratz> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/vip0W75F here output
[15:55] <Sidewinder> Vivekananda, I suggested that you look here for scripting how to: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/part1.html
[15:55] <pratz> ActionParsnip: any ideas ?
[15:55] <mneptok> *con
[15:55] <Tunn3l> syria_, which is allready installed/configured
[15:55] <wormmd> stefano__: that makes no sense, you really should look into a channel in your language.
[15:55] <pratz> ActionParsnip: this sound is really annoying
[15:55] <lvlv> mneptok, ok,i got it
[15:56] <Tunn3l> syria_,  I prefer setting up an external VPN server based on linux
[15:56] <Vivekananda> thanks Sidewinder and also tell me is there a way I can look at these chats if I get dc again? I mean is there a way to retrieve conversations?
[15:56] <lvlv> thanks
[15:56] <syria_> Tunn3l:  Can you help me with that please? I am running itunes on windows 7 virtual machine.
[15:56] <pratz> hey guys how to disable speaker beep sound in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:57] <Tunn3l> syria_,
[15:57] <Tunn3l> http://www.howtoforge.com/openvpn-server-on-centos-5.2
[15:57] <Tunn3l> easy doing.
[15:57] <FloodBot1> Tunn3l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <OerHeks> unkn-error, /usr/share/games/fortune. This is where fortune stores its database files. fortune will randomly select one of those files to pick a quote.
[15:57] <syria_> Tunn3l:  I don't have a vpn service, All I have is my VPS server which is located in UK,
[15:57] <pratz> ActionParsnip: there buddy ?
[15:57] <madzik> @ikonia and @ scotty i need AMR-NB and AMR-WB encoding, plus as i told you i am a newbie, all of the ppl in the discussion group recomend compiling alsa after installing opencore amr in order to make pjsip work on ubuntu 12.04
[15:57] <Sidewinder> Vivekananda, Most of the core channels are logged here; this is a listing on the days in the month of May: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/
[15:57] <playsexwebcam> playsexwebcam.com  entry here and get 120 credits free for chat, more guys and girls
[15:57] <Tunn3l> syria_, which OS is your VPS running?
[15:57] <playsexwebcam> playsexwebcam.com  entry here and get 120 credits free for chat, more guys and girls
[15:58] <NoVoteLoss> wtf
[15:58] <Tunn3l> !ban playsexwebcam
[15:58] <Vivekananda> thanks
[15:58] <syria_> Tunn3l:  Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS.
[15:58] <NoVoteLoss> thank you tunn3l
[15:58] <Sidewinder> Vivekananda, My pleasure. :)
[15:58] <ikonia> madzik: I've never used this, so I'm only going back the documents
[15:58] <unkn-error> OerHeks: oh, so that was a folder! :)
[15:58] <unkn-error> THX !
[15:58] <Tunn3l> syria_, http://madisonlinux.org/InstallingOpenVPNOnUbuntu10.04
[15:59] <madzik> @ ikonia, i ve installed the thing and sound still doesnt work with this pjsip app, so i guess i need to recompile alse
[15:59] <madzik> alsa*
[15:59] <ikonia> madzik: I wouldn't do that on a "guess"
[15:59] <syria_> Tunn3l:  Is it paid?
[15:59] <Tunn3l> no
[15:59] <syria_> Tunn3l:  :( ?
[15:59] <Tunn3l> syria_, free to install
[15:59] <ikonia> madzik: I'd want to know for certain first
[15:59] <Tunn3l> syria_, OpenVPN is free
[15:59] <Vivekananda> Also if I can get an answer to --:I just meant to launch a display in the foreground whenever a scheduled cron job is run. If it is difficult then can writing a shell script and calling the script from the cron be easier?
[15:59] <madzik> @ikonia i tried everything i coudl think of, and the sound still doesnt work with this app
[16:00] <syria_> Tunn3l:  I have it already installed, What manual should i read now?
[16:00] <ikonia> madzik: again, that's still not "I need to re-compile"
[16:00] <Tunn3l> syria_, which I gave youj
[16:00] <Tunn3l> you*
[16:00] <ikonia> madzik: that doesn't mean you don't need to, I'd just want to be %100 certain it was needed before doing it
[16:01] <escott> Vivekananda, if you want to launch a gui program within a shell script you will have to export the DISPLAY variable before running the gui command
[16:01] <syria_> Tunn3l:  Thank you I will read it and come back to you.
[16:01] <syria_> LinuxMonkey:  Thank you buddy, I will read open vpn manual now.
[16:01] <Tunn3l> np
[16:01] <Tunn3l> Good luck syria_
[16:02] <LinuxMonkey> hehehe I did nothing and get credit..love syria_
[16:02] <madzik> @ikonia, i really am new to linux and all of the ppl in this app discussion group who tried to make it work on ubuntu 12/04 write they had to
[16:02] <syria_> :D
[16:02] <Tunn3l> haha LinuxMonkey
[16:02] <unkn-error> what is that program in ubuntu like pastie / pastebunz? what should I "apt-get install" to get easy pastes?
[16:03] <Vivekananda> escott: I could launch grsync(the gui) but I am ok with just launching rsync but in the foreground and displayed in a terminal.What do I need ?
[16:03] <madzik> @ikonia so maybe you could guide me through? or recommend a good tutorial?
[16:03] <beandog> unkn-error: nopaste
[16:03] <Laika> Hi
[16:03] <ikonia> madzik: guide you through what ?
[16:04] <OerHeks> !pastebinit | unkn-error
[16:04] <Laika> Can someone help me with something?
[16:04] <wormmd> !ask | Laika
[16:04] <Tunn3l> Laika, sure
[16:04]  * unkn-error installing
[16:04] <escott> Vivekananda, I would recommend running rsync in the background either in a screen session or just dumping the output to a text file. then you can start a gui terminal to monitor (either tail -f or connect to the screen session) without worrying that rsync won't start because your gui is not running
[16:04] <madzik> @ikonia recompilation of alsa
[16:05]  * Tunn3l is installing a Virtual WindowsXP
[16:05] <Vivekananda> escott:
[16:05] <ikonia> madzik: sorry, I've just said it's not something I would do unless a.) you know you need to recompile it b.) you know the specfic options your application requires
[16:05] <lledet> can anyone help with this problem? http://serverfault.com/questions/391485/postfix-not-sending-email-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-12-04
[16:05] <ikonia> madzik: do you a.) know that you NEED to recompile it b.) know the specific options your application requires ?
[16:05] <nasello> !list
[16:06] <ikonia> lledet: Unauthenticated senders not
[16:06] <ikonia> allowed (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[16:06] <nasello> ciao
[16:06] <ikonia> lledet: you do not have a user who is authenticated sending mail
[16:06] <ikonia> lledet: look at the postfix config and see what auth it's looking for
[16:06] <Tunn3l> nasello, try /list
[16:06] <Laika> I've accidentally set Firestarter (the firewall) to run with elevated priviledges when I log in on my main account. The problem is, every time I log on, Firefox also runs, and for some reason because Firestarter gives the dialogue asking for a password it freezes and I can't click anything. I assume this is because Firefox is blocking it, and as it freezes the screen when asking for a password, this is the cause of my proble
[16:06] <Laika> m. Is there any way to edit startup applications without logging into my account?
[16:07] <madzik> @ikonia as i told you the app still doesnt work, thats the only thing left to try thats recomennded, what do you mean by specific options?
[16:07] <Vivekananda> escott: I am ok with the screen sesssion( what is it though?) and I dont want to run the gui. What I do want is to see progress of the command coz if I use the dump method and if the rsync is for a very large file then I have to wait for a couple of hours before I am even sure that it is running or not in the background.
[16:07] <Laika> !patience
[16:07] <ikonia> madzik: no - you don't re-compile things blindly
[16:07] <ikonia> madzik: if you NEED to recompile it, you'll need to change the default options (or it will just re-build how it is now, which won't work according to your theory)
[16:07] <ikonia> madzik: so you'll need to know the compile options you'll need to make it work with your app
[16:07] <OerHeks> madzik, sound doesn't seem to work unless pjsua sees the alsa header files at make time. just do a "apt-get install libasound2-dev" and then (re)make the pjsua binary
[16:08] <lledet> ikonia: i setup the user using smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sendgrid is that what you mean?
[16:08] <ikonia> madzik: however again, unless you KNOW you NEED to recompile, I wouldn't try it, and if you do KNOW you NEED to recompile you'll NEED the specific compile options your app wants
[16:08] <ikonia> lledet: ok, so you need to look at why the user you are sending mail is not matching that auth table
[16:08] <Laika> Any help would be greatly appreciated, as my laptop is completely defunct at the moment. =)
[16:09] <wormmd> Laika: what window manager are you using?
[16:09] <ikonia> madzik: saying "it's the only thing left" is not a reason to re-compile, more so if you have no reason to think it's the problem or no fix in compile options
[16:09] <Laika> Compiz I think.
[16:09] <Laika> Not sure though
[16:09] <Laika> I'm a Ubuntu newb- just installed it last week
[16:09] <wormmd> Laika: 12.04?
[16:09] <Laika> Yeah
[16:09] <syria_> Tunn3l: How can I make sure if openvpn is installed on my server please?
[16:10] <Laika> !ask
[16:10] <Laika> LTS or something
[16:10] <madzik> @OerHeks and @Ikonia as I told you i am completely new to ubuntu and its issues, i will try this libasound2-dev and get back to you
[16:11] <EvanR> ikonia: MAIL FROM isnt talking about system users, i dont think
[16:11] <madzik> @OerHeks do you have any experience with pjsua?
[16:11] <nasello> \list
[16:11] <ikonia> EvanR: have look at the log, it's realying
[16:11] <ikonia> relaying
[16:11] <ikonia> EvanR: not mail FROM
[16:11] <Tunn3l> syria_, setup a connection?
[16:11] <OerHeks> madzik verry poor, but this issue is know, i found your answer @ http://rrizun.blogspot.com/2010/12/pjsippjsua-wsound-on-ubuntu-1010.html
[16:12] <syria_> Tunn3l: I think that openvpn is already installed, How can know whether it is installed on my vps or not?
[16:12] <oCean> nasello, this is a support channel
[16:13] <escott> Vivekananda, when you start your rsync session start it with "screen -dmS rsync-cron rsync arguments" then you should be able to steal it with screen -RR -D rsync-cron
[16:13] <LinuxMonkey> !openvpn | syria_
[16:13] <nasello> sorry
[16:13] <Vivekananda> escott: all that will go into the shell script right?
[16:14] <madzik> @oerHeks wow, just downloaded and will remake pjsua and see where it gets me, have u ever used it to make calls?
[16:15] <OerHeks> madzik, nope, but let us know if you solved soundsupport
[16:15] <Laika> Any idea wormmd?
[16:15] <Vivekananda> I am a newbie in scripting so sorry about that and I will have to read scripting which I am doing now.I dont know where to put those lines and so direct me if you can to reading material.
[16:15] <escott> Vivekananda, so the script would first start rsync with "screen -dmS rsync-cron rsync ..." then later you can "export DISPLAY=:0" and "gnome-terminal -- screen -RR -D rsync-cron"
[16:15] <msejic28> good day
[16:16] <wormmd> Laika: how did you set that program up to run at startup?
[16:16] <waza-ari> Hey, im using ubuntu 12.04 (UpToDate) on my laptop with an external (secondary) screen connected via hdmi. When i have a window on my primary (laptop) screen and maximize it, it gets moved to the second screen and maximized there. Anyone knows that behaviour?
[16:16] <Laika> Startup Applications under the cog in the top-right corner
[16:16] <escott> Vivekananda, when the gnome-terminal session starts up you can manipulate the cron job (or just view it) and to make it go away "Ctrl-A D"
[16:16] <msejic28> can anyone tell me why ar my notifications for pidgin and new update pink
[16:16] <madzik> @OerHeks re-making now, will let u knw
[16:17] <msejic28> i am usin xubuntu 12.04
[16:17] <msejic28> using
[16:18] <msejic28> anybody here
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> msejic28: many
[16:18] <wormmd> !patience | msejic28
[16:18] <madzik> @OerHeks wow, it solved the issue, thanks alot!
[16:19] <msejic28> ok
[16:19] <msejic28> why are my notifications pink in xubuntu 12.04
[16:19] <OerHeks> madzik, have fun!
[16:19] <Laika> So yeah, basically wormmd I just need to know how to edit startup applications from the recovery terminal
[16:20] <Chell> O.o
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> msejic28: I believe it copied the wallpaper some how
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> msejic28: try setting a different wallpaper, see if it changes
[16:20] <msejic28> pidgin update and crash notifications are pink
[16:20] <madzik> @OerHeks and @Ikonia thank you very much for your help and support!
[16:21] <bieb> I installed 12.04 LTSP to my server that has VGA adapter.. when I go to display settings it sees it as a laptop display. How do I change that?
[16:21] <wormmd> Laika: check /etc/xdg/autostart for your application and run "mv <your application> <your application>.bak"
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> wormmd: that'll need sudo
[16:22] <wormmd> Laika: what ActionParsnip said.
[16:22] <Laika> wormmd I can't see Firetstarter in there, just a whole load of .desktop files
[16:22] <msejic28> why are my notifications pink it is iritating
[16:22] <wormmd> Laika: not Firestarted.desktop?
[16:23] <Laika> wormmd: Nope. =(
[16:23] <Laika> Would you like me to post what I do have there wormmd?
[16:24] <wormmd> Laika: no.
[16:24] <wormmd> Laika: anything in /etc/rc.local?
[16:24] <msejic28> pidgin, update and crash notifications are pink
[16:25] <Laika> wormmd says it's not a directory
[16:25] <wormmd> Laika: it's a file, do "cat /etc/rc.local"
[16:26] <teicah> hi, I am using Gnome 3 with the Gnome Classic session.  How do I find the location of the background displayed right now?  It's not in /usr/share/backgrounds/ It's a stock image
[16:26] <Laika> Just has the default contents wormmd
[16:28] <Bulletrulz> hello
[16:28] <blitzkrieg766> halo
[16:28] <Bulletrulz> im using lubuntu
[16:28] <blitzkrieg766> right on
[16:28] <Bulletrulz> what r u using
[16:28] <blitzkrieg766> u needa help?
[16:28] <Bulletrulz> kinda
[16:28] <blitzkrieg766> i use a few distros
[16:29] <Bulletrulz> im kinda a noob to to this
[16:29] <blitzkrieg766> no prob, whatcha need?
[16:29] <Bulletrulz> is there anyway i can put themes on lubuntu
[16:30] <wormmd> Laika: I'm honestly surprised it's not in /etc/xdg/autostart, and don't know where to go from there (I don't use Unity). Maybe uninstall and reinstall Firestarter and don't set it to run with priveleges next time?
[16:30] <jan_> Hey guys, I have a problem - when using evince, all of the text on GUI widgets comes out as those square characters, but the pdf itself is alright. I've put the output from a command line in a paste here: http://pastebin.com/XsZNdc8D (and it would seem to be related) I just can't figure out what to do about it. Already tried reinstalling evince.
[16:30] <Laika> I don't know how to uninstall it wormmd?
[16:30] <wormmd> Laika: sudo apt-get remove firestarter or some such.
[16:31] <wormmd> !tab | Laika
[16:31] <Laika> !tab
[16:31] <Bulletrulz> ubottu hi\
[16:31] <Bulletrulz> !hi
[16:31] <Bulletrulz> !help
[16:31] <wormmd> !to | Laika
[16:31] <lineesh> hi
[16:31] <Bulletrulz> !thanks
[16:31] <Bulletrulz> !hi
[16:32] <Bulletrulz> !hello
[16:32] <lineesh> how to retrive deleted history in chrome
[16:32] <wormmd> Laika: try wor[TAB] before you type anything else. Makes it easier to see the things you've typed to me.
[16:32] <Laika> wormmd, OK, I can do that
[16:32] <wormmd> Laika: actually worm[TAB], or just type out my name first.
[16:32] <wormmd> Laika: Thanks :)
[16:33] <Bulletrulz> r there any good download managers?
[16:33] <Laika> wormmd, how do I run sudo in the guest account?
[16:33] <wormmd> Laika: guest doesn't have sudo priveleges.
[16:33] <Bulletrulz> laika say sudo
[16:33] <Laika> SO how will I be able to remove Firestarter?
[16:33] <Bulletrulz> then put in ur sudo pass
[16:33] <wormmd> Laika: maybe reboot in recovery mode.
[16:33] <Bulletrulz> no
[16:33] <Bulletrulz> wait
[16:33] <bioman> Hello
[16:34] <Bulletrulz> just say sudo
[16:34] <lineesh> Hi anobody pickup my query?
[16:34] <wormmd> Bulletrulz: guest is not in the sudoers file.
[16:34] <Bulletrulz>  remove t then it will come upp with the other account
[16:34] <bioman> backportpackage fails because of no gpg key found. Any ideas please ?
[16:34] <Bulletrulz> woorm yes if u say sudo it will come up with ur other account i had this probel with mint
[16:34] <Bulletrulz> !mint
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> lineesh: possibly use your backups if you backed up the data
[16:35] <Bulletrulz> lol
[16:35] <Bulletrulz> !ping
[16:35] <wormmd> Bulletrulz: Mint != Ubuntu
[16:35] <lineesh> i dont have backup
[16:35] <Bulletrulz> yes ik
[16:35] <Bulletrulz> lol
[16:35] <Bulletrulz> mint is ubuntu
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: its not
[16:36] <Bulletrulz> actionparsnip u obvisly never used mint
[16:36] <Bulletrulz> action i have it is
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: i know what it is and the standpoint of it in this channel
[16:37] <lineesh> any opensource software for recovering data
[16:37] <Bulletrulz> just with a diffrent starting desktop enviriment and
[16:37] <Bulletrulz> action i was saying i had this probel in mint
[16:37] <LinuxMonkey> Bulletrulz: mint is not ubuntu just like ubuntu is not debian. its based off it.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: none of the ubuntu based distros are supported here, like backtrack, pinguyos and so on
[16:37] <Laika> wormmd, apparently I can just remove Firestarter through the software centre
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: it doesn't matter if i've used it or not. the fact is it's not ubuntu so isn't supported here
[16:37] <wormmd> Laika: true, I didn't know if you could access that since you said the whole desktop was frozen.
[16:38] <Bulletrulz> linux monkey no really lol mint is just like ubuntu with a little changed crap its not based its edited
[16:38] <Laika> wormmd,  I'm on the guest account, I needed to type my admin password.
[16:38] <Sidewinder> lineesh, Have a look at "Testdisk" for data recovery.
[16:38] <Bulletrulz> laika told u lol
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Laika: you could run:  su name    where name is your other username, you can then use sudo
[16:38] <Bulletrulz> i told u wormmd all she had to do is type in her admin pass
[16:39] <wormmd> Laika: what ActionParsnip said.
[16:39] <Laika> *he
[16:39] <Laika> Do I still need to do that now that I've uninstalled it? wormmd
[16:40] <Bulletrulz> laika check
[16:40] <Laika> brb then guys =)
[16:40] <wormmd> Laika: I just wanted you to uninstall it so that hopefully you could reconfigure it when you reinstalled because we couldn't find the configuration file to tell it not to autostart with priveleges.
[16:40] <jhford> how do i go back to metacity+gnome-panels on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:41] <Sidewinder> lineesh, This should get you headed in the correct direction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_recovery_software
[16:41] <bioman> nobody here uses backportpackage ?
[16:41] <arcimboldo> does anybody has experience with preseed installation via network?
[16:41] <escott> jhford, supposedly you can install gnome-panel but i dont think it will feel the same
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> jhford: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> arcimboldo: no but it's my next project :)
[16:42] <Bulletrulz> can i use the ubuntu software center on lubuntu
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: sure
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: you can use any app from any DE, its all good
[16:43] <thomaspr> 2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.30
[16:43] <Bulletrulz> action thx man
[16:43] <Bulletrulz> um help!!!!!
[16:43] <ramon_> hey how are you
[16:44] <Bulletrulz> i treid to install something from ubutuntu software center and it keeps saying waiting for apt-get to exit
[16:44] <Sidewinder> Bulletrulz, Personally, I prefer Synaptic; it's in the repos..
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: if you reboot then run the command ubottu next gives
[16:44] <ramon_> I was hoping someone can help me out with a problem with ubuntu 12
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix
[16:44] <Bulletrulz> ill try synaptc
[16:44] <thomaspr> Bulletrulz: You have to manually close the other window
[16:45] <rockerfeller> hello
[16:45] <Sidewinder> Bulletrulz, Yes, you can not run more than one package mgt. program, simultaneously.
[16:45] <wormmd> !ask | ramon_
[16:45] <Bulletrulz> brb
[16:46] <thomaspr> Sidewinder: simultanously ?
[16:46] <blitzkrieg766> bullet.... type in "ps aux", find the process for the software manager, read its process id, then type "kill xxxx" replace xxxx with process id number
[16:46] <blitzkrieg766> as root, of course
[16:46] <rockerfeller> hey im having a problem booting up on my pc it goes to the boot from cd
[16:46] <blitzkrieg766> or, if you know what you're looking for, type "ps aux | grep whateveryou'researchingfor"
[16:46] <ramon_> what do i do if all of a sudden my update manager starts to not download and say Failed to download repository
[16:46] <blitzkrieg766> make sure you're full screen though so its easier to read the output
[16:46] <LinuxMonkey> blitzkrieg766:  he's gone.lol
[16:46] <lineesh> thanks
[16:46] <rockerfeller> GNU Grub version 1.98-ubuntu13
[16:46] <blitzkrieg766> lmao GOOD
[16:46] <MinaKumar> ramon_: install a fresh copy of ubuntu
[16:47] <blitzkrieg766> XD
[16:47] <blitzkrieg766> afk
[16:47] <rockerfeller> is there no way of restoreing it thru the script
[16:47] <rockerfeller> restroe*
[16:48] <ramon_> I was hoping maybe someone may have had this problem because i shouldn't have to install a new copy because of this
[16:48] <wormmd> rockerfeller: do you want to boot from cd or not?
[16:48] <arcimboldo> ActionParsnip: I'm having some troubles installing using preseed on a vm
[16:48] <wormmd> ramon_: you're being trolled.
[16:48] <arcimboldo> debian installation was fine thuogh
[16:49] <Sidewinder> thomaspr, Well, tour english is certainly better than my german. :)
[16:49] <ramon_> I'm new to this so please take time with me
[16:49] <rockerfeller> when i boot from the cd it goes in to the terminal anyway
[16:49] <thomaspr> 2.6.38-14 with Natty holds back packets --> so it doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.30
[16:49] <Laika> Didn't work wormmd
[16:49] <thomaspr> Why ?
[16:49] <MO_Handes> ramon_, reset repositories using `sudo synaptic` or `sudo gedit /etc/sources.list` and run a `sudo apt-get update`
[16:49] <Laika> Still freezes, but dialogue briefly flashes
[16:49] <Bulletrulz> !aptfix
[16:50] <ramon_> Thanks
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> arcimboldo: not something i've used dude. just something i'm interested in
[16:51] <kwag> hi all
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> thomaspr: if deps aren't met then the package won't come down
[16:51] <Sidewinder> ramon_, If you wish to open gedit with escalated privileges, might I suggest gksudo, in lieu of sudo?
[16:51] <kwag> hey actionparsnip
[16:52] <help> anyone here?
[16:52] <Bulletrulz> !aptfix
[16:52] <wo0f> help: just ask?
[16:52] <Sidewinder> ramon_, For a more detailed explanation, please see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[16:53] <Guest27129> well 2 things... in thunderbird how to i get to see my sent mail?   and u know the top tool line in linux mint12? how do i get programs to stick to it?
[16:53] <oleg> Привет! Как Вам Ubuntu 12.04
[16:53] <thomaspr> 2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.30 - why ???
[16:53] <ramon_> Thanks again
[16:53] <spitzi> Hello. I have Ubuntu 9.04 installed and I wish to install ubuntu 12.04 on another partition. Can I do so without using DOK ?
[16:54] <bs> i get this error when i try to update ubuntu Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[16:54] <bs> Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f
[16:54] <thomaspr> bs: answers to ?
[16:55] <Sidewinder> Guest27129, In T-Bird, just open your "sent" mailbox.
[16:55] <Guest27129> but it aint showing;P  where do i find it?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> spitzi: what is DOK?
[16:55] <spitzi> Disk-On-Key
[16:55] <Sidewinder> !eol | spitzi
[16:55] <dontknow> guys from #archlinux says never use gksu or gksudo because it will create root privilege files in home directory. what are you saying?
[16:55] <spitzi> USB stick
[16:56] <Laika> Any idea wormmd ?
[16:56] <bananapie> I have a process that is saying 'out of memory' despite having 6 gigs of free swap and 200mb of free memory ( 1 500 000kb  of cached files ). Is their something in UBuntu that blocks a process from taking up more than a certain amount of memory ? ( 32-bit machine )
[16:56] <Bulletrulz> what is the fasowserbrtest web
[16:56] <rockerfeller> ??
[16:56] <rockerfeller> help
[16:56] <Sidewinder> spitzi, Please see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:56] <Bulletrulz> what is the fastest web browser
[16:56] <bs> i get this error when i try to update ubuntu
[16:56] <bs> Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[16:56] <bs> Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f
[16:57] <spitzi> Sidewinder, I read some of it. I don't really want to upgrade, just make a fresh install.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> spitzi: you can use a CD if you want...
[16:57] <MO_Handes> does anybody have package `pokerth` installed? I've got some questions to ask
[16:57] <wormmd> Laika: not as of now, I have to get some actual work done now though. If you uninstalled Firestarter and restart and are still having the same issue, the problem is likely not firestarter.
[16:57] <escott> bananapie, with 32bit your process address space is only 4gb is the app using more than 4gb? without pae your kernel space is strictly less than 4gb, are you using pae?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> spitzi: the clean install is a good idea
[16:57] <auronandace> Bulletrulz: how long is a piece of string?
[16:57] <rockerfeller> says sudo isnt reginzed
[16:57] <bananapie> escott : 2.6.32-39-generic-pae
[16:57] <rockerfeller> recongized
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: twice as long as half of its length
[16:57] <Sidewinder> spitzi, OIC, just ignore me then; I missed some your requirements. :) Sorry.
[16:57] <EvanR> cut it in half, then double it
[16:58] <Bulletrulz> no what is the fastest browser i have dial up sooo......
[16:58] <EvanR> dillo
[16:58] <krababbel> elinks Bulletrulz
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Bulletrulz: midori is light and fast
[16:58] <bananapie> escott : it peaked at 3030m VIRT and 1.5G RES in top
[16:58] <escott> bananapie, the app could just be out of space/out of contiguous space
[16:58] <spitzi> GTG thanks
[16:59] <dontknow> guys from #archlinux says never use gksu or gksudo because it will create root privilege files in home directory. what are you saying?
[16:59] <bananapie> that matters in memory ?
[16:59] <MO_Handes> Firefox :D ( ActionParsnip , I think there was a bot or a channel here discussing and introducing top packages and application in every category?!)
[16:59] <Bulletrulz> im gonna try luakit
[16:59] <thomaspr> 2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.30
[16:59] <escott> dontknow, sudo has a tendency to result in xauthority files owned as root
[16:59] <EvanR> bananapie: it could because locality of reference helps cache performance
[16:59] <rockerfeller> GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu13 sudo not r recognized please respond
[17:00] <Bulletrulz> i love linux
[17:00] <EvanR> why dont you marry it then
[17:00] <Bulletrulz> evanr i aready have xD
[17:00] <Bulletrulz> jk
[17:01] <thomaspr> 2.6.38-14 with Natty doesn't upgrade to Version 2.6.38.15.30
[17:01] <MO_Handes> rockerfeller, what `which sudo` returns?
[17:01] <thomaspr> Holds back the packets
[17:01] <EvanR> Bulletrulz: ILLEGAL
[17:01] <MO_Handes> !tell thomaspr about repeating
[17:01] <rockerfeller> error unknown command
[17:01] <escott> bananapie, contiguous space absolutely matters. most applications just use "malloc" which allocates contiguous space only (its not worth the overhead to introduce a memory manager at the application virtual address space level). R (statistical programming tool) in particular, regularly fragments its virtual address space
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> thomaspr:can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:01] <dontknow> escott, i don't get what you say, they say don't ever use for graphical application sudo, gksudo or gksu.
[17:01] <thomaspr> ... or about leaving
[17:02] <thomaspr> It's short
[17:02] <bs> i ubdate ubuntu to 12.04 from update but i get erros
[17:02] <bananapie> that might explain the 'GSlice: failed to allocate 2040 bytes (alignment: 2048): Cannot allocate memory
[17:02] <bananapie> ' message
[17:02] <escott> dontknow, i dont know what they said, but im telling you that sudo doesn't set the environment in the right way for gui applications and .Xauthority ends up being root owned rather frequently
[17:03] <rockerfeller> sud 11.07
[17:03] <rockerfeller> sudo KDE
[17:03] <escott> bananapie, GSlice is intended to get around the fragmentation issues, but evidently it is having trouble. You might just save your work (if you can) and restart the application
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> thomaspr: if its more than 2 lines, please use a pastebin like http://pastie.org      thanks
[17:03] <thomaspr> sudo apt-get upgrade -s
[17:03] <thomaspr> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[17:03] <thomaspr> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[17:04] <thomaspr> Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
[17:04] <bananapie> I've restarted it about 20 times on two different machines.
[17:04] <thomaspr> Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
[17:04] <thomaspr>   firefox firefox-globalmenu linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[17:04] <FloodBot1> thomaspr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <Sidewinder> dontknow, Have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[17:04] <bananapie> It's the data file I am trying to open which is about 400mb
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> thomaspr: AGAIN...use a pastebin....
[17:04] <dontknow> escott, Sidewinder http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo this one explains well thanks
[17:04] <MinaKumar> thomaspr: he's trolling you. don't ever use a pastebin. copy the entire code here
[17:05] <thomaspr> firefox firefox-globalmenu linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[17:05] <thomaspr> are held back
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> thomaspr: I even gave you a pastebin link to use...
[17:05] <alexis>  /go dev
[17:05] <Sidewinder> dontknow, Oops, wrong link sorry; this is the one: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> thomaspr: ok what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic     USE A PASTEBIN
[17:05] <bs> what is the right way to install the update
[17:05] <dontknow> Sidewinder, :)
[17:06] <Sidewinder> dontknow, Too many windows/channels open, here; my humblest apologies. :)
[17:06] <JessicaW> anyone familiar with ubuntu and iscsi?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> bs: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    will install teh latest packages from the repos
[17:06] <Sidewinder> MinaKumar, WADR, that's not helpful.
[17:08] <rockerfeller> NVIDIA graphics card external 10 GB Random,Acess,Memory and a AMD64 processor im very frustrated with this boot issue  GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu13 unknown command sudo
[17:09] <escott> bananapie, you could probably get it to work with a 64bit system, but 400MB is a big file
[17:09] <ariana> rockerfeller, the same issue with my malfunctioned dvd drive
[17:09] <rockerfeller> #ubuntu
[17:09] <bs> how to know my ubuntu version
[17:09] <bananapie> ok
[17:09] <bananapie> thanks
[17:10] <rockerfeller> no when i try to install a OS it doesnt take it i even tryed with WIN
[17:10] <rockerfeller> It kicks it back
[17:10] <dontknow> bs launch details app
[17:11] <c0deMaster> how to fix iptables rules permanently ?
[17:11] <bs> dontknow, how?
[17:11] <rockerfeller> suggestions
[17:12] <escott> c0deMaster, if you are not using ufw, you can save your rules to a file and reload them with a custom rule in rc.local
[17:13] <dontknow> bs, click unity button and type "details" and launch
[17:14] <capsule> A
[17:14] <MO_Handes> anybody have package `pokerth` installed?
[17:15] <Sidewinder> !anybody
[17:16] <ThePendulum> Hey
[17:16] <dontknow> is there a way to open specific ports for specific software with ufw?
[17:16] <escott> dontknow, the gufw gui can help you do that
[17:16] <ThePendulum> I installed Ubuntu alongside Windows, yet I don´t get a OS choice during boot, it just boots into Windows
[17:17] <dontknow> escott, i have it but it allow for every software, for example i want to open 80, 443 ports for chrome
[17:18] <escott> dontknow, you should not need to do anything to open outbound ports
[17:18] <dontknow> escott, i set outgoing deny
[17:19] <escott> dontknow, im not sure if you can have application specific open ports, it might be easier to setup a proxy and then allow that proxy user access
[17:19] <MinaKumar> escott: ok
[17:20] <Laika> wormmd, I managed to fix it by deleting /home/alexander/.config/autostart/su-to-root.desktop
[17:21] <MinaKumar> everybody clap for Laika
[17:21] <Laika> I like that idea
[17:21] <dontknow> escott, dont know what you are saying but it is not a big deal for me actually. i will stick with my current ufw configuration
[17:22] <Laika> Anyway, see you guys around
[17:22] <ariana> ;-)
[17:22] <escott> dontknow, at one point i had rules in before.rules +-A ufw-before-output -m owner --uid-owner proxy -j ACCEPT
[17:22] <Laika> Thanks for the help wormmd  and Bulletrulz
[17:22] <MinaKumar> !anyway
[17:22] <MinaKumar> !lol
[17:23] <EvanR> MinaKumar: lol
[17:23] <beandog> heh
[17:24] <dontknow> i suggest using cinnamon everyone if you are suffering performance with unity
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> I suggest xfce, or lubuntu
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> since they are supported here. ;)
[17:24] <MinaKumar> I suggest Windows
[17:24] <MinaKumar> lol
[17:24] <C0deMaver1ck> lol
[17:25] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, if someone is using ancient machine, cinnamon is good choice
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> cinnamon is not suported by this channel. and lubuntu works very well on low end machines
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> Someone was mentioning movie editors earlier today and i cant recall the name of one that has a easy feature to cut a video into 'scenes/parts'
[17:26] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i mean if someone using ancient computer they can use xfce, if not and suffer, they can use cinnamon
[17:26] <MinaKumar> Windows is the best choice. download it free at http://thepiratebay.com
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> I reccomend lubuntu. lxde is not going to vanish overnight like cinnamon could.
[17:26] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, why it is not supported?
[17:26] <OerHeks> !ot | MinaKumar
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  its not in the official ubuntu repos, so its  not supported by ubuntu, or its devs, or this channel.
[17:27] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, they should put in official repos :D
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> they who?
[17:28] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, canonical
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> you want the ubuntu devs to spend time on it? not likely.
[17:28] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, it would be better than unity :D
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> I find unity works very well.
[17:29] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i didn't find
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> !cinelerra
[17:30] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, it is for new systems
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> and lubuntu is the reccomendation for low end systems
[17:31] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, lubuntu is not practical
[17:31] <OerHeks> dontknow, try gnome-shell or panel
[17:32] <c0deMaster> where is the logging file for iptables?
[17:32] <OerHeks> c0deMaster, usually in /var/log/
[17:32] <LucidGuy> Is Cinamon the default window manager of Linux Mint?  I thought it was simply a custom Gnome2
[17:32] <MinaKumar> why do you always argue about window managers and shit? why don't you use text mode?
[17:32] <dontknow> OerHeks, using cinnamon right now, i am ok with it
[17:33] <dontknow> LucidGuy, it uses gnome shell
[17:34] <LucidGuy> dontknow, So then whats Cinamon?
[17:34] <dontknow> LucidGuy, gnome3 fork, something like that :D
[17:34] <OerHeks> !cinnamon
[17:35] <MinaKumar> lol OerHeks there's no information about that
[17:35] <MinaKumar> and that shit is not supported here
[17:35] <MinaKumar> join #cinnamon
[17:35] <OerHeks> try to watch your language, MinaKumar.
[17:35] <LucidGuy> gnome3?  eww.  I thought someone commented that Cinnamon was a fast window manager...  Gnome3 is a big from my experience.
[17:36] <OerHeks> LucidGuy, gnome2 is dead.
[17:36] <dontknow> why ubuntu updates firefox but doesn't update chromium?
[17:36] <LucidGuy> OerHeks, not with RHEL
[17:36] <gypseh> hey all got a tricky one for ya today.......
[17:37] <gypseh> does anyone know what to do when somebody wipes the partition table on a drive that had a home folder encrypted?
[17:37] <OerHeks> LucidGuy, it is going offtopic, yes, for Fedora too.
[17:37] <MinaKumar> OerHeks: don't say that bullshit. gnome 2 is alive as hell
[17:37] <LucidGuy> OerHeks, my office is on Lucid still, mainly because of Unity and all the other poor options out there.
[17:37] <escott> gypseh, restore the partition table
[17:37] <gypseh> i wiped it a few times and it still shows the data there even when the partition table is destroyed and recreated
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> !updates
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> !update
[17:38] <escott> gypseh, do you want to destroy the data?
[17:38] <gypseh> and the worst part is i dont have the key
[17:38] <gypseh> yea i have a 60gb ssd that is showing up as a 57gb drive with 1.3gb used
[17:39] <gypseh> and with ssds the more data on them the slower they move....so you see why im kinda bugged
[17:39] <mneptok> !language > MinaKumar
[17:39] <escott> gypseh, you could check if your ssd supports ATA TRIM
[17:40] <gypseh> it does and it was enabled but i cant seem to disable the !security flag
[17:40] <allen_> is there a version of x-lite for ubuntu or an equivalent "softphone" application?
[17:40] <fraterm> So, at this point, I think my 12.04 system is fairly destroyed.
[17:40] <dontknow> why ubuntu updates firefox but doesn't update chromium?
[17:40] <fraterm> internal errors with the packaging system.
[17:40] <OerHeks> !voip
[17:40] <fraterm> keep happening.
[17:40] <beandog> dontknow: they update both
[17:40] <JessicaW> anyone familiar with ubuntu and iscsi?
[17:40] <allen_> did you install chromium from a non-repository location?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: depends whats in the repo, if there is no update to be had it won't be updated....
[17:41] <fraterm> "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error."
[17:41] <MinaKumar> JessicaW: yes, what do you want to know?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> updates normally happen in packages after release for security or other major bug fixs
[17:41] <gypseh> i tried just about every utill i could find one of the tools actually scanned all 60.2 gigs and claimed to wipe it but alas no dice
[17:41] <allen_> OerHeks, thanks.
[17:41] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, but someone can  install firefox or chromium without adding extra repo but it only updates firefox
[17:42] <gypseh> is there a program that will remove the security flag\ encryption stuff ?
[17:42] <OerHeks> dontknow, chromium 19 will be in the repo soon.
[17:42] <allen_> maybe the repository is not getting the updated chromium
[17:42] <escott> gypseh, you are going to have to be more specific about things, but i would just mark the whole disk empty with hdparm and trim, and then create a new partition table
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> !blender
[17:42] <fraterm> prhaps gypseh the drive really has the new measurement of Gigs rather than the old, and they are counting 1000 instead of 1024
[17:42] <JessicaW> MinaKumar: I have a weird situation that I can't figure out. using a dell MD3220i with two direct connections. it was mounted by device name. I changed to uuid and after reboot, one of the directories is missing. df -h still shows that 2TB are being used but the two viewable directories are empty.
[17:42] <dontknow> OerHeks, you mean official repo?
[17:42] <OerHeks> Yes.
[17:43] <JessicaW> MinaKumar: sorry about the book btw. There's just no short way to explain it.
[17:43] <dontknow> OerHeks, how do you know, are you the guy who put it in repo?
[17:43] <gypseh> fraterm makes sense but even still post wipe it shows data on the partition
[17:44] <gypseh> i tried using hdparm -Y /dev/sda like it said in partedmagic and it does the wipe but no dice
[17:44] <fraterm> gypseh, well that is ... odd.
[17:44] <gypseh> see i encrypted a home folder....on a few diff failed installs.......(fuck 12.04 and unity......)
[17:45] <gypseh> it just likes to die....and kill SSDS
[17:45] <escott> !language | gypseh
[17:45] <dontknow> OerHeks, it is too late, there will probably be second v19 update  soon, ubuntu is late unfortunately
[17:45] <gypseh> so is there anything i can do to fix this?
[17:45] <escott> gypseh, why dont you paste exactly what you are doing and what you are seeing
[17:45] <escott> !paste | gypseh
[17:47] <escott> gypseh, you are being far too vague for us to offer any help
[17:49] <sfsf32> oi
[17:49] <gypseh> escott
[17:50] <fraterm> I would find pasting the contents of my particular error easy, if I could actually copy and paste the text in some of these error dialogues.
[17:50] <gypseh> i used the encypt home folder option on a few diff failed installs and simply wiped instead of decrypting and now i have lost space that i can not partition it to see the full disk
[17:50] <fraterm> I'll have to screenshot these things.
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> a pastebin of 'sudo fdisk -l' may be helpfull
[17:51] <beandog> you don't need sudo
[17:52] <beandog> or yes you do.  derp.
[17:52] <sfsf32>  Is there a version of ubuntu designed for not-nerd people?
[17:52] <Sidewinder> !pastebinit | fraterm
[17:52] <gypseh> and when i wipe it regardless of what tools i use the partition menu only alows me to make a 57gb partition and on top of that it says theres 1.30gb used even after making a new partition table and what not
[17:52] <gypseh> and no i dont see how thats vague at all
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> and how big is this hard drive?
[17:52] <Ca11um> Hey guys.
[17:52] <gypseh> its default ubuntu encryption.......and i did the thing like 4 seprate times
[17:52] <escott> gypseh, how about the output of sudo parted -l /dev/sdb for a start
[17:53] <gypseh> its a 60.02gb ocz ssd sata III
[17:53] <Ca11um> Does anybody know a list of what LDAP offers to domains?
[17:53] <Ca11um> I find the documentation so in-depth, you can't actually find out what to use it for
[17:53] <fraterm> Sidewinder, fine and good, but these errors are actually coming from things that a control+C and a right click copy will not copy.
[17:53] <fraterm> though they are text
[17:53] <gypseh> escott what part of i cant take screens or boot into an os via the ssd did you not understand?
[17:53] <sfsf32>  Is there a version of ubuntu designed for not-nerd people?
[17:53] <Ca11um> Macintosh?
[17:54] <fraterm> the dialogue boxes do not expose the content of the error message in such a way that I can paste them.
[17:54] <gypseh> i only stated that i am on a seprate box 5 times......
[17:54] <beandog> sfsf32: all of them are pretty user-friendly
[17:54] <escott> gypseh, the part where you are unwilling to do anything to get help
[17:54] <gypseh> escott stop being a dick
[17:54] <Sidewinder> fraterm, Nothin's ever easy; I just thought that pastebinit might help; sorry for butting in. :)
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> a live cd would be handy in this case.
[17:54] <Mitchell_M> Hey everyone, wondering if there was anyone who has tried to use a bash script to disable account list login page that worked on Ubuntu 10 but not on 122?
[17:54] <mneptok> !attitude | gypseh
[17:54] <fraterm> Sidewinder, nah, just expressing some frustration at the error dialogues.
[17:54] <Mitchell_M> If anyone has this problem can you tell me how you solved it
[17:54] <Sidewinder> Understood.
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> Mitchell_M: 'account list login page' ? whats that exactly?
[17:55] <Mitchell_M> Oh, and that's supposed to say 12 not 122
[17:55] <gypseh> i simply asked wtf to do to undo encryption when the key has been lost theres no generic method?
[17:55] <Mitchell_M> Dr_Willis You know that startup page when you install ubuntu that shows the accounts you have
[17:55] <beandog> gypseh: you lost the encryption key?
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> Mitchell_M:  you mean the 'login screen' ?
[17:55] <lelamal> !wtf gypseh
[17:55] <beandog> gypseh: do you wanna delete the entire thing?
[17:55] <mneptok> gypseh: if you could do that easily, it would hardly be a secure system, would it?
[17:55] <beandog> because otherwise you're screwed
[17:55] <Ca11um> Um, how can I get a list of all external network connections to this machine?
[17:55] <gypseh> yea i said it was encrypted then the kernel update failed...soo i formatted it
[17:55] <Mitchell_M> Yep, sorry for using a funny name
[17:56] <Ca11um> Something very weird just happened, like somebody remote controlling the mouse
[17:56] <gypseh> cause i had no means to go in manually and repair it at the time
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: do you use VNC?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> Mitchell_M:  LightDM is whats used by 12.04 - any of your tweaks/hacks for the old  reelase wont work.
[17:56] <Ca11um> Nope
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> Mitchell_M:  check out various lightdm tweak/configs to get it how you want.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: if you run: netstat -tap      it will show the connections
[17:56] <Ca11um> All I've installed is Steam (via Wine), XChat, and Thunderbird
[17:56] <Mitchell_M> Dr_Willis: I see, okay. I'll look into that
[17:57] <Ca11um> Thanks, ActionParsnip
[17:57] <Ca11um> Seems to be nothing, but it was weird
[17:57] <Ca11um> Mouse randomly moved around the screen, dragged, and then right-clicked
[17:58] <gypseh> and now it wont let me partition to the full size of the drive...and when i partition......it says 57.8gb partition with 1.3gb used....even after formatting
[17:58] <mneptok> gypseh: formatting to what filesystem?
[17:58] <gypseh> so some how.... there has to be a way to disable the !security flag that hirens sees
[17:58] <electhor> ubuntuforums
[17:58] <gypseh> i have tried ntfs fat32 and ext4
[17:58] <hackerina> wow
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: is the system a laptop?
[17:59] <gypseh> yea i really railed the pooch on this one.......
[17:59] <mneptok> gypseh: ext4 will reserve blocks for root's use
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> 5% reserved of 60gb =
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: about 4.5Gb
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> sorry 3Gb ish
[18:00] <gypseh> ok.......but when there is NO Os it still tells me the partition can only be 57gb
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> of course even if its a 60gb. you will loose some to various inode/other things.
[18:00] <gypseh> and prior to this it was 60
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> how are you setting it to use 'no' os? is the question
[18:01] <gypseh> no im saying there is no os on the drive........i have been using a thumb drive to run utills to recover it
[18:01] <gypseh> i have it scanning for bad sectors as we speak
[18:02] <gypseh> in an attempt that it will label the encrypted stuff as bad and remove it
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> a drive marketed as 60gb.. having 57gb of actual partionable useable space.. sounds about right to me.
[18:02] <beandog> well if you're formatting it as extX then it's going to reserve space for root
[18:02] <Ca11um> No ActionParsnip; Desktop (Ethernet)
[18:02] <beandog> use tune2fs to change the amount reserved
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> if you  use 'dd' to zero the drive.. it will be erased. :)
[18:02] <mneptok> gypseh: it does not matter. it's formatted. formatting ususally marks bad blocks, creates journals, and otherwise has overhead by way of disk space used.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> beandog: not in ext2 ;)
[18:02] <beandog> Dr_Willis: That was gonna be my next suggestion
[18:02] <beandog> ActionParsnip: true that
[18:02] <Sidewinder> gypseh, If you haven't already tried, you might look into the "dd" command; I think it overwrites with 0s and 1s; I don't know how it will handle the encryption flag, though. Maybe worth a try..
[18:02] <gypseh> well first off i know i need to remove this !security flag
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> but a hit of 3Gb for the benfits of the journal is very wothwhile
[18:03] <beandog> gypseh: I'd zero out at least hte first few megs of the device.
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> gypseh:  there aint much that will survive  a zeroing by dd.
[18:03] <gypseh> sidewinder i tried that
[18:03] <Sidewinder> :)
[18:03] <gypseh> its as if its a partition inside a partition.........wrapped in a forcefield......
[18:03] <Sidewinder> Worth a shot.
[18:03] <beandog> You *could* format the entire drive as a partition, instead of selecting a parition.
[18:03] <mneptok> gypseh: have you considered booting off an Ubuntu Live CD and using the tools there?
[18:03] <beandog> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda for example
[18:04] <gypseh> tried that stuff
[18:04] <gypseh> it doesnt let me adjust the part over 57gb anymore.....
[18:04] <Ca11um> So with LDAP, user accounts can be stored on a server, and users can log into a single account from all the domain machines?
[18:04] <beandog> gypseh: zero it out.  It'll take forever, but it will *certainly* remove everything.
[18:04] <mneptok> gypseh: a drive labelled as 60GB will not actually have 60GB usuable space.
[18:04] <Ca11um> With synchronous documents
[18:05] <gypseh> it does have 60gb usable its an ssd.....
[18:05] <morsnowski> gypseh, did you try to boot with 'ro selinux=0'
[18:05] <beandog> gypseh: he means, marketed as 60 GB does not mean free space is 60 GB
[18:05] <beandog> gypseh:  it is ALWAYS less.
[18:05] <beandog> By about 5%
[18:06] <raptor67682> hi how to know the temperature of teh CPU and the level of usb of USB electricity ?
[18:06] <Sidewinder> 60-5%=57
[18:06] <anonfreak> hi all
[18:07] <anonfreak> hi all
[18:07] <Sidewinder> Hi
[18:07] <mneptok> gypseh: it does not matter if it's an SSD. it's that storage OEMs calcualte 1,000 kilobytes as a megabyte, and the closest binary is 1.024. OEMs cheat.
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: look into lm-sensors
[18:07] <anonfreak> i had a question
[18:07] <escott> raptor67682, sensors/lm-sensors will tell you the cpu temp. for usb voltage i have no idea. maybe /sys?
[18:08] <MinaKumar> raptor67682: use a thermometer
[18:08] <anonfreak> anyone knows how to use Havij
[18:08] <oCean> MinaKumar: be helpful, stop nonsense replies
[18:08] <mneptok> MinaKumar: unhelpful, and you have been since joining. stop.
[18:09] <beandog> raptor67682: acpi might show it as well ... acpi -Va, if I remember right
[18:09] <beandog> raptor67682: if it's a laptop
[18:09] <MinaKumar> anonfreak: persian?
[18:09] <anonfreak> anyone knows how to use Havij
[18:09] <anonfreak> ?
[18:10] <mneptok> !repeat | anonfreak
[18:10] <MinaKumar> anonfreak: persian?
[18:10] <MinaKumar> !anyone | anonfreak
[18:10] <anonfreak> what is persian?
[18:10] <beandog> anonfreak: just ignore him
[18:12] <Romance> Hello guys im currently monitoring my resources , i dont open web browser, i dont download anything, the things i only using now is IRC Client + system monitor, but why i keep receiving (download) 66KBps every 3 seconds ? are there any something i dont see 'downloading' behind me?
[18:12] <ron> how do I find out where the openssl packages are installed?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Romance: look into ntop
[18:13] <olskolirc> you see this where Romance
[18:13] <beandog> Romance: it's probably IRC ... 66k is *very* small
[18:13] <MindSpark> hi. I am not sure what this 12.04 version is for. But just out of curiosity, did Ubuntu change their "Linux for human beings" slogan ?
[18:13] <Romance> system monitor (resource tab)
[18:13] <Romance> 66k is not small , 0.6mbps
[18:13] <mneptok> MindSpark: is there a support question in there somewhere? this is a support channel.
[18:14] <beandog> Romance: a text file with a few lines is 66k.  It's miniscule.
[18:15] <BlouBlou> Romance: 66kbs is not 0.6 mbs
[18:15] <olskolirc> yes MindSpark they changed it to Linux for humans that are a glutton for punishment
[18:15] <mneptok> Romance: 600K is .6M. 66K is .066M.
[18:15] <beandog> okay, more than a few lines.  But still.
[18:15] <Romance> beandog : yeah i did close my IRC client, i dont do any internet surfing, monitoring it still giving me 66-90 kbps every 3 seconds , 'something' is downloading that i dont see maybe
[18:15] <MindSpark> ok, then how do I stop apport from popping up all the time, then, when trying to report anything that has crashed (unfortunately it just says something went wrong without saying what did), another instance pops up saying that apport has crashed
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: its still linux for human beings
[18:16] <MindSpark> then it must be me that's not human anymore
[18:16] <beandog> Romance: downloading or uploading?  It could just be local network traffic
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: works just as well....
[18:16] <beandog> could be anything
[18:16] <GRMrGecko> Hello. MySQL is giving me the error 1148 when using LOCAL INFILE.  I've read that this issue is due to the MySQL package on Ubuntu being compiled without it.
[18:16] <Brustofski> Is this a cinnamon issue or refresh rate issue? screen flickers or flashs like crazy like when opening and closing vlc or something eles... i'm in 12.04... I noticed the samething in mint 13 rc to!!
[18:16] <GRMrGecko> Is there plans to fix it?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski: cinnamon and mint are offtopic here
[18:17] <MindSpark> I've been trying to work for an hour without xorg crashing on me all day long
[18:17] <BlouBlou> Romance: ISP pings your computer, also regular pings, updates checker, email checker, msn...
[18:17] <MindSpark> I reinstalled, reformatted and downgraded then upgraded again
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: are you fully updated?
[18:17] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, unfortunately yes
[18:17] <CJKay> Hi guys, I'm building myself an Ubuntu remix and have used some cool tools on the net to build a very bare Ubuntu (but still Ubuntu). I have changed some files round, but I checked the disc for 'defects' (probably just something I did) but it all scrolls way too quickly for me to know what the single error at the end is. Any way to check from the terminal?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: tried Unity2D session?
[18:17] <MindSpark> I used to be able to click command-x or c-s and get the viewport
[18:18] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, yes, I am on U2d now
[18:18] <MindSpark> I don't see a difference though
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: have you tested your RAM?
[18:18] <Brustofski> ActionParsnip, I was just wondering if it's an issie with cinnamon or if it's a refresh rate issue... Cause i have no refresh settings in display!!
[18:18] <muh2000> hi
[18:18] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, how do I do that?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski: cinnamon isn't supported here
[18:18] <muh2000> how can i edit the adressbar in 12.04?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: hold shift at boot, then select it from Grub
[18:18] <MindSpark> alright, thanks, be back in a bit
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: address bar of what? Firefox? Thunar? Chromium????
[18:19] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: file browser for broswing network shares that are hidden...
[18:19] <Brustofski> ActionParsnip, Who know's if it's Cinnamon.. I seen on google someone saying it could be refresh
[18:19] <Brustofski> rate
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski: try a different desktop to test..
[18:20] <Brustofski> ok...
[18:21] <tarski> im in a loop where mysql install is half installed and broken and apt-get keeps trying to install it with each apt-x command. how can i completely remove it
[18:21] <beandog> tarski: do you care about your databases?
[18:23] <RGErrDay> hello
[18:24] <Wizard> Good evening.
[18:24] <bs> how to change gener for multi audio files at once
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> bs:  thers various id3 tag editor tools in the repos
[18:26] <bs> Dr_Willis, how to get it i'm beginner
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> bs:  fire up the 'software center' and look for id3 tag editors
[18:26] <alex__c> bs : EasyTag should be able to help
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> !info easytag
[18:27] <ZenMaster> Hi guys. I am trying to install a application called Voluntis. I am kind of lost on these instructions.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> I still wonder on a video file. the thumbnail is a single frame.. how does it decide what frame to use? and how can i have it select a specific frame.
[18:27] <ZenMaster> pastebin.com/2fcAQ52M
[18:28] <beandog> Dr_Willis: what ar eyou trying  to do?
[18:28] <bs> Dr_Willis, ok i installed it but donno how to run it i can't find it in the softwear home
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> beandog:  change the thumbnail frame/image to be the face of the grandkid instead of his backside... ;)
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> bs:  no idea. i dont use the app.
[18:29] <savr> I save a file in gedit
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: could grab an image and change the icon for that file to whatever you want
[18:29] <savr> and it crash just after
[18:29] <savr> and it did save the file :(
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  just trying to figure out how it decides what frame to use. thoght it was an id3 tag or somthing.
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  noticed if i reencode the video - it often changes
[18:29] <ZenMaster> Feel free to drop me a msg if you know what I am talking about. :D
[18:29] <savr> or when I went to open the file again it wasn't there
[18:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Do you have a few minutes as my keyboard input is here nor there in terms of providing consistent HMI to my windows in Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS ?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: not sure tbh. Maybe its random. Could clear the thumbnails, see if the same is chosen
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i wa thinking it was like 10 sec into the video.. but havent seen any rhyme to it.
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> windows does seem to select the same thumbnail image. which made me think its part of the video file.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> vindav: do you mean windows in a virtualbox?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Playing with Openshot. :) fairly nice video editor tool.
[18:32] <beandog> Dr_Willis: huh, never heard of this one
[18:33] <bs> how to run id3 tag editor
[18:33] <GRMrGecko> just asked my question here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+question/198107
[18:33] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  No, it is when I am using the distro, even when I open up a browser, a word document, e-mail prgm, or whatever, it seems that typing is there, then it locks up, and that it takes time to even do backspacing and deleting.
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> im basically having to take a HUGE long video file and split it into smaller clips for the wife.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> vindav: also how does the keyboard co
[18:33] <raptor67682> which package has the possibility to get the CPU temperature for CLI (non sensor wiht x111 stuffs)?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Connect
[18:33] <CJKay> Is there any way of slowing down the output of the "check disc for defects" option on the Live CD menu?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> bs:  just run the command 'easytag'
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: sudo sensors     will show the data in cli
[18:34] <bs> Dr_Willis, how i'm new
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> bs:  or hit the Big Ubunt button and type 'easy' it shows easy tag...
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> bs:  you might want to hit up some unity starter guides..
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> OR... hit the alt key.. and type 'easy' and it shows up
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> or alt-f2 and type 'easy' and it shows up... ;)
[18:35] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  When the keyboard works, it does, when it doesn't it is intermittent.  I tried resetting the 2.4GHz radio for it and it doesn't change things; I replaced the battery in it, and it still doesn't change things.  The mouse that pairs with it is good.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> vindav: and the first question I asked....?
[18:37] <Ca11um> Noob question: Is a  computer's power consumption static or dynamic?
[18:37] <Ca11um> i.e. Does a more efficient OS use less power?
[18:37] <MinaKumar> ActionParsnip: you should not ask question. you must answer and support
[18:37] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  vindav: also how does the keyboard co
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  mondern computers throttle down to save power.
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: it changes with load
[18:37] <Ca11um> So a Linux server would save energy, compared to Windows Server?
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> depends on the system/cpu load.
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> less load = less heat = less cooling which saves more power then just having less load. ;)
[18:38] <Ca11um> The server does nothing except Active Directory (or I guess, LDAP for Linux's case)
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> MinaKumar: in order to support I need basic details. How else do you intend I get this if I cannot enquirie about the situation
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> vindav: is the windows system running in a virtualbox?
[18:39] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  No
[18:40] <negra> hello, i having problems to recognize wireless device, the privative drivers say it is using the wireless driver, but no wifi interface found
[18:40] <negra> any guide please ?
[18:40] <negra>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[18:40] <Ca11um> Anybody reckon Linux usage in the future will drastically increase?
[18:40] <Merceng> Hello, what's the best (easy to set up wise) IRC daemon for Ubuntu?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> vindav: so how is windows a factor here? You mentioned it earlier.
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  it is increaseing every day
[18:41] <beandog> Ca11um: I don't see it decreasing, if that's what you mean
[18:41] <Ca11um> Well so is the world population, I mean in comparison to other OS'
[18:41] <Ca11um> Windows, Macintosh mainly
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | negra
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  it is increaseing every day :) even with that crita
[18:41] <mneptok> !offtopic
[18:42] <Sidewinder> Ca11um, Off topic chit-chat would probably be better in #ubuntu-offtopic. :-)
[18:43] <HK> this
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Merceng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer
[18:43] <Merceng> thanks
[18:44] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Whether I am using Firefox browser, or Thunderbird e-mail prgm or using a LibreOffice spreadsheet or document writer, typing is inconsistent at best.  Sometimes I have to wait a while before I can start typing because the window will not respond to any typing I do.  Sometimes the mouse doesn't want to cooperate in terms of providing editing.
[18:44] <Ca11um> Sidewinder: I always find that a problem on Freenode; I always start a discussion, and there's already a channel for everything
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> vindav: tried unity2d session from the login screen
[18:45] <ghabit> Hello. I have ubuntu 12.04. Nvidia drivers installed. I have two monitors - but in settings - monitors I can see only one monitor. How I can use the second? Switch between them, or expand them.
[18:45] <ghabit> Help!
[18:45] <negra> This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[18:45] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   What do you mean ?
[18:46] <negra> but no wireless interface are detected, only eth0
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> ghabit: if you hit the 'detect displays' button, does it activate
[18:46] <vindav> ghabit:   I can help you on that.  Is you nVidia gui open ?
[18:46] <Sidewinder> Ca11um, I know what you mean; this channel especially gets exceedingly busy as it's support only.. OT is a nice channel to hang and chill.
[18:46] <ghabit> ActionParsnip, nope, nothing is happen.
[18:46] <vindav> ghabit:  Do you also have both monitors connected to your video card ?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> vindav: logoff and choose the unity2D session
[18:47] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I'll do that now.  I'll be right back
[18:47] <ghabit> vindav, nope, but i will open it now. Yes, they are both connected. Main via vga, secondary via hdmi
[18:47] <the-penguin> My gpg keys have disappeared
[18:47] <the-penguin> can't update my system
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> the-penguin: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[18:49] <ZenMaster> I have a question about some instructions for installing the Volantis application. I have posted them here http://pastebin.com/2fcAQ52M
[18:49] <ghabit> Hello. I have ubuntu 12.04. Nvidia drivers installed. I have two monitors - but in settings - monitors I can see only one monitor. How I can use the second? Switch between them, or expand them.
[18:51] <toumbo> I want to fill a bug but this page appears! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net
[18:51] <vlt> fidel_: Assuming I keep Unity … What is “myunity” and does it create conf files I could edit automatically to hide “Log out …” and “Soft up to date” (for all users)?
[18:51] <toumbo> What should I do to type the bug
[18:51] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I switched to Ubuntu 2D, and it seems to be working now.  Do you know why this is ? Will the developer of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS put a fix in for the next update ?
[18:51] <vindav> ghabit:  I just logged back in.  R you still there ?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> vindav: unity uses compiz. Unity2D uses metacity afaik
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> vindav: maybe your video hardware struggles with compiz
[18:53] <ZenMaster> Drop me a msg if you can provide some assistance. :) Thanks in advance.
[18:53] <alusion> My internet browsers have been extremely slow / losing connection and just plain bad lately, whats up?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: try running: ubuntu-bug packagename
[18:53] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I am logged to an Active directory domain from my ubuntu box, I want to share a folder with samba, people can open my pc icon and see the shared floder, but they are not able to get into the shared folder... need help with this cause my boss is hurrying me up.... ;)
[18:54] <HoNgOuRu> help
[18:54] <moop> Hello, I sseem to be having difficulty setting my nameservers in 10.04
[18:54] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I guess that makes sense.  It was really frustrating.  Now may I ask, since I switched over to Unity 2D which is using metacity afaik, what are my advantages and disadvantages ? What is my functionality now compared to what it was before ?
[18:54] <moop> 12.04
[18:54] <toumbo> ActionParsnip the bug is about plymouth and grub resolution(monitor out of range)... Where should I fill it?
[18:54] <moop> ive tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/140688/upgraded-server-to-12-04-dns-no-longer-working
[18:54] <HoNgOuRu> please help ASAP
[18:55] <moop> HoNgOuRu, what do you need help with?
[18:55] <deejay31> Is ZNC likely to use more that 100gb bandwith in a month?
[18:55] <HoNgOuRu> moop, read 3 6 messages up
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> vindav: metacity is lighter and less complex. It causes fewer stupid issues that compiz can cause.
[18:55] <deejay31> On #ubuntu
[18:55] <HoNgOuRu> sorry 6 messages
[18:55] <moop> HoNgOuRu, i just joined, read 3 messages up
[18:55] <HoNgOuRu> ok ok
[18:55] <HoNgOuRu> moop
[18:56] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I am logged to an Active directory domain from my ubuntu box, I want to share a folder with samba, people can open my pc icon and see the shared floder, but they are not able to get into the shared folder... need help with this cause my boss is hurrying me up.... ;)
[18:56] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Thanks.  I guess you've had your share of prblms there 2 eh ?
[18:56] <moop> why not give them the method you used to access it
[18:56] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?
[18:56] <ghabit> vindav, I'm here! ^)
[18:56] <moop> and no need for the proxy
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: did you try editting /etc/default/grub   and uncomment the resolution line and set it to 1024x768
[18:57] <HoNgOuRu> moop,  people can see me on the net, but the share I made is buggy i suppose....
[18:57] <vindav> ghabit:  I have had the problem you've had, and can help.  Do you have the nVidia gui open ?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> vindav: none actually. I've just seen them here far too often
[18:57] <moop> is there a search function for this chat to scour the help docs?
[18:57] <ghabit> vindav, yep.
[18:58] <toumbo> ActionParsnip Yes of course I solve this problem every clean installation since natty! Thanks to startupmanager!
[18:58] <moop> HoNgOuRu, look up samba in the ubuntu docs
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[18:58] <HoNgOuRu> moop thank you... I DID...
[18:59] <vindav> nhabit:  ok, click open the  'X Server Display Configuration' if you have both monitors connected to your video card..
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: you'll need to run: sudo update-grub    to apply the change
[18:59] <deejay31> ActionParsnip: Is ZNC likely to use more that 100gb bandwith in a month?
[18:59] <ghabit> vindav, done.
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> !info znc
[19:00] <toumbo> ActionParsnip but I'm annoyed if i know that I'll do this for every new version of ubuntu :P
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> deejay31: not sure. Not even heard of it til now. Sorry
[19:00] <deejay31> Oh ok
[19:00] <vindav> Which small window within this tab that you see that is highlighted and is there a small box checked off to say that it is the primary display for the X screen ?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: worth a shot. Its only a bootsplash...
[19:00] <toumbo> ActionParsnip As I said I solved it about a mounth ago. I Just want to prevent it in the future
[19:01] <toumbo> ActionParsnip Do you know in which section in launchpad should I fill this bug?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: could report the bug with:   ubuntu-bug plymouth
[19:01] <ubunlex> HELP! i am trying to install ati tv tuner 550 to watch and record programs on my ubuntu but i couldnt please help
[19:02] <vindav> ghabit:  Which small window within this tab that you see that is highlighted and is there a small box checked off to say that it is the primary display for the X screen ?
[19:02] <ghabit> vindav, i have no checkbox there with 'default' checkbox
[19:02] <Ca11um> So is this the biggest IRC channel to ever exist?
[19:02] <ghabit> vindav, secondary monitor looks disabled.
[19:03] <ZZz-RANDOM> where is xorg.conf located in ubuntu?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: thats offtopic here. Try asking in #freenode
[19:03] <vindav> ghabit:  I'll give you a screenshot in a sec to ask you a few more questions.
[19:03] <ghabit> vindav, ok!
[19:03] <toumbo> ActionParsnip thanks a lot!! :)
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> ZZz-RANDOM: by default there isn't one but if you put one in /etc/X11 it will be obeyed
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: np :-)
[19:05] <ZZz-RANDOM> hmm, then from where are settings being read/automaically-generated?
[19:06] <vindav> ghabit:  do you have this seen in your nVidia gui ?   http://imagebin.org/213462
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> ZZz-RANDOM: udev
[19:06] <ZZz-RANDOM> thx
[19:06] <LinuxMonkey> !xorgconf | ZZz-RANDOM
[19:07] <ghabit> vindav, well, i have to choose twin view, right?
[19:07] <Mitchell_M> What should I use in a script to add a program (e.g. MATLAB, LABWORKS, etc.) to the Ubuntu task bar for easy access for clients?
[19:07] <vindav> ghabit:  yes you do.
[19:07] <ghabit> vindav, do you use gnome or unity?
[19:07] <hwilde> why does the ctrl+c key not work anymore in my terminals??
[19:08] <NewWorld> hwilde:  which terminals have you tried?
[19:08] <hwilde> I dunno the default one that I always used
[19:08] <hwilde> was there an update or something?  ctrl+c does NOTHING
[19:08] <NewWorld> hwilde:  try in another terminal then
[19:08] <hwilde> ctrl+d works, ctrl+z works....
[19:08] <hwilde> I tried many terminals.
[19:08] <ghabit> vindav, can you show me your options of secondary monitor? Is it possible to have this options @ system options instead of nvidia application?
[19:08] <NewWorld> hwilde:  i mean a different terminal emulator program
[19:08] <Tengo_hambre> hi to  everybody
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Mitchell_M: make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications   I suggest copying one from ~/.config/autostart as a skeleton file as they are simpler
[19:09] <NewWorld> hwilde:  konsole, xterm, urxvt, etc.
[19:09] <yashwant> hi
[19:09] <ghabit> vindav, and main question - twin view allows 'expand' monitors - menu on primary, additional space on secondary, how i can switch between them?
[19:09] <ghabit> i mean working only 1 monitor, then only 2 monitor.
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: ctrl+shift+[cv]    to copy/paste.
[19:10] <Mitchell_M> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[19:10] <vindav> ghabit:  I use Unity.  Its smarter, and faster to find things and it's intuitive if you don't know what to look for.  I use to use gnome.  Twinview must be selected for both monitors that you want active.  I will show you the screenshot of my secondary monitor.  BTW, do you just want one monitor on, or have both on ? The nVidia gui will allow you to do both.
[19:10] <alfatau> hello! i need to display users full name at login screen. Because some of them are quite long, is there a way to increase the side panel displaying full names on lightdm login screen. thank you for your attention.
[19:11] <yashwant> i have some proble in empthy chat , while calling or comming call, ringer is not working what is happining in betwwen calling why sound is not indicating
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> vindav: by using unity, you are using gnome desktop.
[19:11] <yashwant> yes
[19:12] <hwilde> ActionParsnip, nah just ctrl+c like cancel, escape, etc.
[19:12] <hwilde> like if I run  tail -f on a logfile, I cannot ctrl+c anymore
[19:12] <DrManhattan> Im using 64 bit linux with 4g ram in the box. I'm only showing 3954 ram in the system, not the 4096 that is actually installed in there
[19:12] <hwilde> or if I run a ping for example, ctrl+c does not cancel it
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> vindav: unity is just a replacement for gnome-shell in older releases
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: ahh
[19:12] <ochkan> привет
[19:12] <jo-erlend> I need to figure out exactly which release something went wrong, so I need old images. Where do I get them? On old.releases.ubuntu.com, I only see 8.04, then 10.04. I need the ones in between.
[19:13] <vindav> ghabit:  oops, even though I am using Unity, I am using gnome desktop.  Here is the screenshot of my secondary monitor.  Also, unity is just a replacement for gnome-shell in older releases.  http://imagebin.org/213466
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: do you use onboard video chip?
[19:13] <sarsaeol> hwilde: does ctrl+z work to stop your pings, etc?
[19:13] <DrManhattan> No
[19:13] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, no, geforce 8400gs dedicated
[19:13] <hwilde> sarsaeol, it backgrounds them, then I can kill them
[19:14]  * ekv hello all
[19:14] <jo-erlend> ah. It's old-releases, not old.releases. :)
[19:14] <jackiechan0> hi there my windows borders are disappeared how can i fix ?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> jo-erlend: you can upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 directly. LTS to LTS upgrade
[19:14] <vindav> ghabit:  when you 'disable' the configuration for a monitor, It'll shut the display to it.
[19:15] <jo-erlend> ActionParsnip, I'm trying to find out if audio stopped working in 9.04 or in 9.10. I can't spend hours and hours upgrading just for that. :)
[19:15] <toumbo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1003074 	
[19:15] <toumbo> ActionParsnip It is correct?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: looks fine :-)
[19:16] <vindav> ghabit:  What's happening for u ?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> jo-erlend: cdimage may have it. Or torrent sites
[19:17] <jo-erlend> ActionParsnip, old-releases.u-c.
[19:17] <nick_> hello
[19:17] <jo-erlend> ActionParsnip, I thought it was old.releases.u-c. That makes a difference. :)
[19:17] <ghabit> vindav, thank you a lot for help!
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> As long as it passes md5sum, source is moot :-)
[19:18] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/317948
[19:18] <vivien> re
[19:18] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:18] <Guest13123> I need some help getting ati graphics drivers for the radeon hd 6310 notebook graphics to work with ubuntu/precise, anybody been able to do so?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: tried in xterm?
[19:19] <Guest13123> yeah
[19:19] <Guest13123> nothings been workin
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[19:20] <Guest13123> Already done this one and it doesn't work for me for some reason, i even tried the alternative and built a specific package. didn't work at all
[19:20] <DrManhattan> yeah ubuntu is showing the wrong amount of actual memory on my system, it appears that Im missing 50mb ram
[19:21] <yashwant> if any one have a depth knowledge abou sound in linux please help me .
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> yashwant: ask and the channel will reply
[19:22] <escott> DrManhattan, probably kernel memory
[19:22] <DrManhattan> http://pastebin.me/d6d2a56387d9d43e534639216211b499  <--- here is the issue I am having with my ram
[19:22] <Wiss> Hi.. I'd appreciate some help here as well as I have not been able to find a solution to a login issue i have been experiencing
[19:22] <jackiechan0> hi there my windows borders are disappeared how can i fix ?
[19:22] <DrManhattan> kernel memory doesnt get seen by the system?:
[19:22] <Wiss> I am unable to launch any app from the launcher menu after login
[19:23] <jackiechan0> hi there my windows borders are disappeared how can i fix ?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> jackiechan0: press Alt+F2 and run: unity --replace
[19:23] <Wiss> the app icon becomes highlighted but then nothing happens ... it only works after several relogins
[19:23] <KM0201> yashwant: thats pretty application specific.. you might have better luck seeking out empathy support.
[19:23] <vindav> ghabit:  did everything work out for you in this matter ?
[19:24] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: i'm running Natty
[19:24] <escott> DrManhattan, various bits of memory are reserved for different purposes and fall under the "kernel memory" banner, but free is a user-space tool so it won't see that memory
[19:24] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: Gnome
[19:24] <Wiss> on 12.04 precise LTS
[19:24] <DrManhattan> escott, right on, as long as all is well.
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> jackiechan0: then use:  compiz --replace
[19:25] <DrManhattan> now, I took the nouveau driver up and Im seeing some disturbing things when I boot- apparently a bunch of services are starting AND stopping when I boot
[19:25] <DrManhattan> things like ssh
[19:25] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: yeah but the problem is that all the time that i press on the windows menu on the top left the border disappears
[19:25] <DrManhattan> I can see the list of services when the system boots, but I can't find any record of the boot
[19:25] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: the windows menu is not usable anymore, a way to fix that?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> jackiechan0: press Ctrl+Alt+T   and run it there
[19:26] <escott> DrManhattan, /var/log/boot.log
[19:26] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, do you mean the menu where you have File, Edit, etc?
[19:27] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: no the menu in the top lef the little arrow that show you the windows menu so you can move the windows to another work space etc.
[19:27] <jackiechan0> jackiechan0: it disappeared when i press on it windows border disappears
[19:27] <jo-erlend> ActionParsnip, he's talking about the menu that used to be on the left side when the window controls were on the right, I think.
[19:27] <jelliebellie> How do I enter advanced menu options on Ubuntu Alternative CD, like I would be able to with debian?
[19:28] <DrManhattan> escott, would you please check out http://pastebin.me/d6d2a56387d9d43e534639216211bad4  and tell me if this is normal for booting?
[19:28] <DrManhattan> at least with ubuntu
[19:28] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: all the time that i press the arrow the windows border disappear
[19:28] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: how can i fix that?
[19:28] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, when a window is not maximized; if you right-click the titlebar, does that give you the menu you're looking for?
[19:28] <escott> DrManhattan, drives are clean services are ok. looks like a normal boot
[19:28] <ActionParsnip>  jelliebellie advanced options like what?
[19:28] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: yeah it works right clicking
[19:29] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: way yo fix that permanetly ?
[19:29] <DrManhattan> escott, ok then for my own curiosity, why is it "stopping" services that aren't running before starting them - like sshd
[19:29] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  It's starting again where it is a PIA to type from the keyboard.  Would it be wise to uninstall Compiz from my desktop ?
[19:29] <jackiechan0> ??
[19:29] <yashwant> KM0201, then how to solve our problem or which chant software will work better in linux
[19:29] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: way yo fix that permanetly ? ActionParsnip
[19:30] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: way yo fix that permanently ? ActionParsnip
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you could. It doesnt use much drive space
[19:30] <KM0201> yashwant: i have no iddea, but a problem that is that specific to an application, is better pursued through that programs support options
[19:30] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, there used to be one.. A gconf key that you could set to switch the layout for your window controls, but I'm not sure they're working anymore.
[19:30] <escott> DrManhattan, not sure, but its probably just the way the scripts were written. theoretically one could be changing runlevels instead of booting and therefore the service would already be running
[19:30] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: :(
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> jackiechan0: did the command sort it?
[19:31] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, don't give up. :)
[19:31] <DrManhattan> escott, ok, thank you for your patience
[19:31] <jelliebellie> ActionParsnip: like this http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/installguide/36debian.png
[19:31] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: which command ? if reload compit the border re appears the problem is that the windows menu on the top  left doesn't work and if i try to acces it the windows borders disappear again
[19:31] <jo-erlend> ActionParsnip, he's talking about the window menu. That is, the button that used to be on the left when close, minimize and maximize were on the right. It seems, you can only access it by unmaximizing a window and then right-clicking the titlebar.
[19:32] <vassalli> hi
[19:32] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, hold on, I'm looking.
[19:32] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: right it's on the top left, that little arrow down
[19:32] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: thanks :)
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> jelliebellie: ubuntu is designed to be simple and for Linux novices. I don't think it has that
[19:33] <yashwant> KM201, k
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> jo-erlend: gotcha
[19:33] <jelliebellie> ActionParsnip: weak, server edition should have it, or else ubuntu is not for enterprise imo. thx
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jackiechan0: alt+v to get view -> toolbars    maybe
[19:34] <Mitchell_M> I tried editing a .desktop application for thunderbird to see if I could get it to appear in desktop (since it was already created), however I am not sure what line to edit to have it appear on the ubuntu task bar?
[19:34] <Wiss> Anyone?
[19:34] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: doesn't works, i have to restart compiz or i have to restart gtk decorator under compiz menu
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jelliebellie: yep, your opinion...
[19:35] <jelliebellie> ActionParsnip: the right option.  not a real os for servers.
[19:35] <jelliebellie> thx
[19:36] <Mitchell_M> BTW, I was saying task bar,but that is a WINDOWS term, I really meant to say Launcher
[19:36] <DrManhattan> escott, thank you very much for explaining that to me in DrManhattan-proof terms. I actually understand that now!
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> jackiechan0: try:   metacity --replace
[19:38] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:39] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, hey. I tried something that made my desktop go nuts. :)
[19:39] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: ?
[19:39] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: Metacity --replace worked!! My  cairo dock is messed but i have just to reload it
[19:39] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, if you use Unity 2D, then you can get the button back. But it seems, you can no longer maximize your windows if you do.
[19:40] <Guest69427> Is there any way to remove dvtm's window title?
[19:40] <jackiechan0> ActionParsnip: jo-erlend what' happend to my cairodock ha a black square around
[19:40] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, oh. Perhaps I misunderstood? You knew about /apps/metacity/general/button_layout?
[19:41] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, didn't you use to ask about the windows menu? :)
[19:42] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: if i disable renable gtk-window-decorator --replace  the windows borders will back, but the menu on the top left isn't availalbe and if i click on it the windows border disappears
[19:42] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, anyway; in order to get the windows menu back onto your window decorator, you can use close,minimize,maximize,menu:
[19:42] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: if i run metacity --replace the windows menu works again but my cairodock becames messed
[19:43] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: didn't understand
[19:43] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, oh, ok. It wasn't about the button itself then?
[19:43] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: sorry? the button of thewindows menu make the windows borders diapperas
[19:43] <feet> Heya
[19:44] <jackiechan0> ??
[19:44] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, I don't know what that means. The windows menu was removed from the default in 10.04 I think, at the same time that window controls were moved from the right to left.
[19:45] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: the problem is with gtk-window-decorator --replace
[19:45] <sam555> hello all!
[19:45] <ultrixx> hi sam555
[19:45] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, I thought you wanted to get the windows menu button back...
[19:45] <sam555> I'm installing ubuntu server 64 bit.  Should I use ext4 or ext3?  We have in the past been using ext 3.  If I go to ext4 will there be major changes?
[19:46] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: yes but when i  run gtk-window-decorator --replace the windows border reappears
[19:46] <escott> sam555, the main change is in extents, although there are also some changes to how syncing and journaling works
[19:46] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, why are you running that command?
[19:46] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: the windows menu button make the borders disappear
[19:47] <sam555> escott.  Thanks for the update.  What would you recommend?
[19:47] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, check your settings. You _have_ to have the colon.
[19:47] <jackiechan0> ??
[19:48] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: i'm lost
[19:48] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, close,minimize,maximize,menu: <-- that way. Not close,minimize,maximize,menu
[19:48] <escott> sam555, i would probably use ext4, but if you are worried about performance you should see if there are benchmarks for your workloads
[19:48] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: i have these on the right
[19:48] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, do you have the colon?
[19:48] <DrManhattan> what is a hard drive benchmark for ubuntu?
[19:49] <DrManhattan> something I can run in console?
[19:49] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: what is colon?
[19:49] <ultrixx> sam555: ext4 is most probably the best filesystem for you
[19:49] <ikonia> DrManhattan: iostat
[19:49] <sam555> thanks for the input ultrixx and escott!!!  Very helpful.
[19:49] <vassalli> canale ubuntu ita
[19:49] <vassalli> tanchs
[19:50] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, your setting should be something like "menu:minimize,maximize,close", or ":menu,minimize,maximize,close". You have to have the ":" (colon). Otherwise, you'll run into problems. (which is what happened to me earlier)
[19:50] <KM0201> !it | vassalli
[19:50] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/960379
[19:51] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, ok. You were talking about metacity a moment ago? Then you started talking about cairodock I think. It's very difficult to understand. This is IRC.
[19:52] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: thanks for helping don't worry i'll fix it
[19:52] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, with regards to the menu-button... I'd make sure the settings are correct. Otherwise, metacity will crash.
[19:52] <jackiechan0> jo-erlend: ok
[19:53] <jo-erlend> jackiechan0, might want to use askubuntu, btw. And provide details. It's very difficult to get the entire picture here.
[19:53] <jo-erlend> good luck.
[19:54] <jellybellie> I hate ubuntu this month, it just sux.  Unity, not advanced menu with server install (or any thing else other disk), plew
[19:54] <jellybellie> not=no
[19:54] <jackiechan0> tnx
[19:55] <oconnore> how do I disable "recent files" in the unity menu? the option in settings -> privacy is non functional
[19:56] <ksian1> you must delete the history also
[19:59] <Bulletrulz> wtf happend lolD:
[19:59] <escott> oconnore, i dont know what the settings->privacy are but gnome-activity-journal should allow you to manage some privacy settings
[20:00] <escott> oconnore, rather "activity log manager"
[20:00] <Bulletrulz> i have a qestion???!!!!
[20:00] <oconnore> yeah, I'm using that. it does nothing
[20:00] <oconnore> escott: that doesn't work
[20:00] <guntbert> !ask | Bulletrulz
[20:01] <escott> oconnore, is it that its not deleting the old history? or that its not even preventing new entries from being made?
[20:01] <Bulletrulz> is it possible to duel boot with out usb stick or wubi or cd?
[20:01] <Bulletrulz> just a program
[20:01] <Bulletrulz> will unetbootin do that?
[20:01] <guntbert> !dualboot | Bulletrulz
[20:02] <KM0201> Bulletrulz: well how on earth would you expect to set up a dual boot, w/o some form of installation media?
[20:03] <oconnore> escott: it's not deleting the old history
[20:03] <escott> oconnore, its not expected to do that. you might want to purge your zeitgeist history and then setup your privacy settings
[20:03] <Bulletrulz> idk
[20:03] <oconnore> escott: it is expected to do that, that's a button on the first page
[20:04] <Bulletrulz> but i have 2 harddrives?
[20:04] <Bulletrulz> can i make one ubuntu and one windows
[20:04] <escott> oconnore, ok that bit. i dont know ive never tried it, i was thinking of the blacklist part
[20:04] <OerHeks> Bulletrulz, you could add an iso to an existing grub2/ubuntu installation
[20:04] <escott> Bulletrulz, yes you can do that
[20:05] <guntbert> Bulletrulz: you need a boot manager - use grub2 for that purpose
[20:05] <Bulletrulz> i can :D
[20:05] <Bulletrulz> will it take long?
[20:05] <oconnore> escott: how do you purge zeitgeist history?
[20:05] <marv_> when you are ready have two problems to discuss
[20:05] <Bulletrulz> oer im using wubi right now
[20:06] <OerHeks> Bulletrulz, then no.
[20:06] <escott> oconnore, nuke ~/.local/share/zeitgeist
[20:07] <ThePendulum> I installed Windows, and Ubuntu alongside it, yet only Windows boots. How do I quickfix this?
[20:07] <escott> !grub | ThePendulum
[20:07] <ThePendulum> (I don´t get a choice at all)
[20:07] <OerHeks> ThePendulum, hold shift @ boot to enter grubmenu
[20:07] <ThePendulum> escott: I installed Ubuntu last
[20:07] <ThePendulum> Ah
[20:07] <Bulletrulz> escoot will i still be able to access windows
[20:07] <escott> ThePendulum, do you have multiple disks? perhaps you have the wrong boot disk selected
[20:08] <ThePendulum> escott: They´re both on the same disk
[20:08] <escott> Bulletrulz, im not clear what you are asking. yes you can access files on ntfs from ubuntu
[20:08] <oconnore> escott: still nothing
[20:08] <Bulletrulz> escott will i need a usb drive still to install it
[20:08] <escott> oconnore, try logging out it might be cached in ram
[20:08] <muh2000> a fresh install of ubuntu: why does smb browsing not work (keep in mind, all other PCs can browse the smb world in my LAN)
[20:08] <Bulletrulz> i thing i have a removable harddrive
[20:08] <n1ckn4me09876543> is it possible to COPY my entire ubuntu folders  in   /          then transfer it to another drive, will it run when i turn on computer using that OTHER drive?
[20:09] <uw> for a harddisks, can i make sure that a certain UUID is tied to a certain /dev/sdX upon boot?
[20:09] <Bulletrulz> nick no lol
[20:09] <uw> cant find stright answer online
[20:09] <escott> Bulletrulz, you want to have some kind of bootable media on which to do the installation. you might be able to get creative if you have multiple disks, but the easiest is a usb thumb drive
[20:09] <NcA> uw: the UUID is a disk identifier
[20:09] <escott> n1ckn4me09876543, you would have to copy UUIDs for partitions, and bootloaders
[20:10] <NcA> uw: by nature it will only describe the disk that it was generated for
[20:10] <oconnore> escott: ah, that worked. That was hellish for such a simple problem.
[20:10] <Bulletrulz> escott i dont have a usb drive D: my freind has one will i hvae to use the usb drive everythime i boot?
[20:10] <Arkhelion> Hello everyone
[20:10] <uw> NcA, can i make sure that UUID is brought up as /dev/sda (or whatever) upon system boot?
[20:10] <escott> Bulletrulz, once you install you won't need the usb drive
[20:10] <escott> uw, no
[20:10] <Bulletrulz> hmmm how big of a flash drive
[20:11] <escott> uw, thats why we have UUIDs because they cannot guarantee enumeration ordering. access the drive through the symlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[20:11] <NcA> uw: a UUID <IS> a descriptor for a disk partition
[20:11] <rzyz> hello, i have problem to install sun-java6-jre on ubuntu 12.04 64bits
[20:11] <fraterm> so back to flashplugin-installer he(double hockey sticks): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1001659/
[20:11] <Bulletrulz> escott how big?
[20:11] <rzyz> i have the message on comment 6 : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9322391
[20:11] <escott> ThePendulum, how old is the computer you have
[20:11] <NcA> uw: so in fstab, instead of /dev/sdx, you replace it with UUID=<string>  mountpoint
[20:11] <escott> Bulletrulz, 700MB is large enough for the install media
[20:11] <Bulletrulz> hmmmmm ?
[20:12] <DrManhattan> how long should it take for mysql to start
[20:12] <Bulletrulz> i wish i had a usb stick
[20:12] <uw> escott, ok, does anyone know how linux enumerates /dev/sdX drives upon boot?  it keeps changing for me and messing things up.
[20:12] <Bulletrulz> wait can i use like a memory chip from my phone?
[20:12] <Arkhelion> Is there any "raid-guru" on? I'm having a kinda wierd issue with superblocks
[20:12] <Bulletrulz> brb
[20:12] <uw> NcA, ohhh ok i wil give that a try
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> rzyz  did you follow these instructions? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6
[20:13] <KM0201> a memory chip from his phone... and he doesn't want to spend $10 on a pen drive?
[20:13] <escott> uw, its really up to the hardware. the kernel cannot guarantee anything. DO NOT COUNT on device enumeration order. The kernel developers cannot and will not guarantee anything
[20:13] <NcA> uw: so, if your install keeps replacing the /dev/sdx entries, using the UUID will force it to mount that specific partition, regardless of the device naming
[20:14] <Bulletrulz> KM0 IM FUCKING 13 LOL
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> caps & language
[20:14] <uw> escott, NcA, oddly though, my fstab says (/dev/sdc1: UUID="9b1a3f76-aa42-4832-b5fa-010e381f8ad5" TYPE="ext4" )  as if it is tying /dev/sdc1 to a UUID?
[20:14] <escott> Bulletrulz, probably not
[20:14] <Bulletrulz> escott is a removiable memory card
[20:14] <guntbert> anyone | Arkhelion
[20:14] <escott> uw, the UUID is stored in the partition table. if that device comes up as sdd the UUID will still be discoverable
[20:14] <uw> escott, NcA, thanks for your advice and help btw
[20:14] <guntbert> !anyone | Arkhelion
[20:15] <Bulletrulz> and if i install will it void my warrenty to get rid of windows
[20:16] <Arkhelion> Okay sorry guntbert
[20:16] <Bulletrulz> escott can i use like a removilbe memory card and just plug my phone in?
[20:16] <ThePendulum> escott: Eh, about half a year old
[20:16] <escott> Bulletrulz, US law would make any such clause invalid (assuming you are in the US)
[20:16] <Bulletrulz> escott i dont get it so it wont?
[20:16] <Bulletrulz> escott void my warrent
[20:17] <NcA> uw: no worries. I haven't seen that behaviour, might be Ubuntu specific. Fstab will mount the device just using UUID= int the first field. You can find out UUID's by running "tune2fs -l /dev/sdxx | grep UUID"
[20:17] <escott> ThePendulum, its possible that it is a EFI/GPT system. When you were partitioning did you see an EFI partition? If you are in the livecd run "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb" assuming sdb is your hard disk
[20:18] <Bulletrulz> escott so they wont void my warrenty if i did
[20:18] <ThePendulum> escott: I got that error during the Windows installation, so I cleaned the entire disk and added a msdos partition table
[20:19] <Bulletrulz> hmmmm?! wait what about that one thing easy bcd
[20:19] <Arkhelion> So my issue is the following, after a kernel failure (which I'll investigate afterwards), the disk /dev/sdb has been removed from a raid1 array. I've been able to re-add /dev/sb1 to /dev/md0 but unable to re-add /dev/sdb2 to /dev/md1. In fact, the "wierd" thing is that if I zero-superblock /dev/sdb2, then I get nothing with mdadm -E /dev/sdb2 (that's kinda expected), but if I then re-add it to /dev/md1, I get superblocks back b
[20:19] <Arkhelion> ut with Events=0 and when I check in /dev/md1 I can't find my device in there...
[20:19] <NcA> uw: I would imagine it's your controller that's reporting the devices strangely during system startup as the kernel queries the dive controller
[20:19] <DrManhattan> hmm, very surprising, but ubuntu works a lot better than gentoo did this last run around
[20:19] <Bulletrulz> can i duel boot with that
[20:19] <DrManhattan> WAY better, to be honest
[20:19] <Silowyi> is there an apache 2.4.2 PPA out there yet?
[20:19] <DrManhattan> I had zoneminder up and running in less than a half-hour
[20:19] <_RED_> Unity is slow as balls on my lappy
[20:19] <Bulletrulz> escott what about easybcd is it ossible to duel boot that
[20:19] <_RED_> and the AMD drivers wont stop crashing
[20:19] <escott> Bulletrulz, you can talk to your attorney about that. Your vendor will say almost anything voids the warranty (their goal is not to pay), but in the US the warranty has to cover merchantability and they would have to show that linux caused the harm (which is wont)
[20:19] <DrManhattan> what's a normal start time for zoneminder?
[20:19] <guntbert> DrManhattan:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:20] <Bulletrulz> escott god sounds like a lot of work
[20:20] <Bulletrulz> anyway escott can i duel boot with easybcd
[20:20] <escott> DrManhattan, if you are coming from Gentoo, a word of advice "don't fiddle with the defaults." Gentoo teaches you to customize everything, but its better to just leave it be in ubuntu
[20:20] <_RED_> also any one know how to stop the AMD drivers from crashing or could recomend me to a good comunity made driver
[20:21] <escott> ThePendulum, got what error?
[20:21] <sw0rdfish> hi, did the old version ubuntu 8.10 or 9.10 live CD have stuff like smartctl or gparted installed?????????????????
[20:21] <DrManhattan> escott, it isnt just that it is set up properly, it's that the install and set up is very fast
[20:21] <DrManhattan> the only thing i miss is the gentoo colors in the console :)
[20:22] <ThePendulum> escott: Windows warned me about GPT, so did Ubuntu. So I just repartitioned the entire disk before continueing. Unless Windows threw a GPT partition table at it, I´m pretty sure it´s still msdos
[20:22] <DrManhattan> 334 megs for the box running apache2, mysql, and zoneminder
[20:22] <DrManhattan> and ssh
[20:23] <uw> NcA: yes it could be one of the sata controllers.  Also, there are 2 USB drives on boot so i wonder if they are messing up the enumeration.
 pro tip use windows to shrink NTFS partitions
[20:23] <escott> Bulletrulz, you probably could dual boot with easy bcd, but it would be easier (since you have two disks) to put grub on the mbr of the ubuntu disk, and make that the primary boot disk. grub will automatically be configured to chainload the windows
[20:23] <ThePendulum> _RED_: Why would I want to shrink an NTFS partition?
[20:23] <escott> ThePendulum, windows is not bootable in an efi/msdos configuration. only efi/gpt is supported. if you changed partition tables windows should not be bootable
[20:23] <_RED_> to dual boot
[20:23] <Bulletrulz> escoot sounds really techinal xD
[20:23] <uw> NcA escott, also, i see two types of UUIDs from blkid.  One in the format UUID="12280888994215613420", the other in the format UUID="9b1a3f76-aa42-4832-b5fa-010e381f8ad5"
[20:24] <ThePendulum> _RED_: I partitioned beforehand
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> !tab| Bulletrulz
[20:24] <_RED_> good
[20:24] <_RED_> also any one know a fix for AMD apu drivers?
[20:24] <uw> NcA escott, any thoughts to which one is correct or will either one work?
[20:24] <ThePendulum> escott: Then Windows changed it itself, because it´s actually only Windows that boots
[20:24] <_RED_> they wont stop crashing on me
[20:24] <sw0rdfish> hi, did the old version ubuntu 8.10 or 9.10 live CD have stuff like smartctl or gparted installed?
[20:24] <Bulletrulz> escoot it says i can boot from a iso i have lubuntu and ubuntus ido
[20:24] <Bulletrulz> iso
[20:24] <escott> uw, NTFS has these "UUID"s which are not actually UUIDs but they are sufficient to uniquely identify an NTFS partition. is that what you are seeing?
[20:24] <NcA> uw: did you run tune2fs?
[20:25] <Bulletrulz> is easybcd and wubi like the samething
[20:25] <NcA> the dashed format is the correct formatting for fstab
[20:25] <escott> !enter | Bulletrulz
[20:25] <NcA> uw:  I would test with a non-critical partition, add it to fstab, then run "sudo mount -a"
[20:25] <Bulletrulz> escoot sorry
[20:25] <AngrySpam98> so i told my teacher to get linux, and she gave me detention -.-
[20:25] <escott> ThePendulum, can you just verify what kind of partition table you have
[20:25] <kantlivelong> anyone know of a CLI lightscribe app? I just need basic text printing...
[20:25] <The_Explorer> Question: "Ubuntu will not boot after install" = I just installed ubuntu 12.x on my pc, (specs: FX series "bulldozer 8core" Nvidia GTS 250 series PCIX, 16gigs ram, asus board(xfire FX) || Live cd worked, installed, (Changed boot order to compensate) and rebooted. Black screen frozen(hard reset req)
[20:26] <D[4]ni> meh. dpkg seems to ignore my --ignore-depends switch.
 please go to off topic
[20:26] <ThePendulum> escott: What´s the best way to verify using Windows?
[20:26] <ThePendulum> Haven´t used Windows for years now...
[20:26] <mneptok> ThePendulum: does this machine use UEFI?
[20:26] <NcA> The_Explorer: "Black Screen"? Was there a cursor in the top right?
[20:26] <ThePendulum> mneptok: Yeah
[20:26] <NcA> The_Explorer: Chances are you didn't install grub to the proper boot disk's MBR
[20:26] <escott> Bulletrulz, easybcd is a tool to configure the windows boot process. wubi is a way of "installing" ubuntu without partitioning. they aren't really related
[20:26] <mneptok> ThePendulum: UEFI requires a GPT table
[20:27] <The_Explorer> NcA, negative. Full black screen, frozen, Unable to alt+ctrl+Fx
[20:27] <uw> escott, i dont think so,  none of these are NTFS partions.  only one is ext4 (OS) and the rest are zfs
[20:27] <escott> ThePendulum, i havent a clue. something in the disk partitioning tools should say
[20:27] <Bulletrulz> escoot but i can duel boot any os with easybcd right cause i wanna try alot
[20:27] <ThePendulum> I guess I´ll just format and wipe the entire disk again, partition it as GPT and install everything once again
[20:27] <uw> NcA: tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[20:27] <escott> uw, ZFS probably has some kind of volume or snapshot id. i dont know which one you would use
[20:27] <The_Explorer> NcA, Grub sucessfully booted after change in boot order. Malfunction happened after selection
[20:28] <undecim> Is there a program that can manage custom background scripts? Ideally something that sits in the notification area, and lists active scripts, allowing me to check and uncheck which scripts or cron jobs should be active.
[20:28] <escott> uw, /dev/sda? dont you mean /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 or something
[20:28] <Bulletrulz> escoot Boot anything.
[20:28] <Bulletrulz> Boot both from and into USB drives, ISO images, virtual disks, and more. i have the iso
[20:28] <ThePendulum> By the way, is there a way to display a custom notification as soon as I hit the off button on my PC or shut down my PC from within Ubuntu?
[20:28] <ThePendulum> I like to remind myself to switch off my wireless mouse, lol
[20:29] <NcA> uw: you need to specify /dev/sda1 (the partition number, not just the device)
[20:29] <escott> Bulletrulz, yes, i believe people have managed to boot ubuntu with easybcd. I'm not sure why you would do such a thing, but it has been done AFAIK
[20:29] <NcA> The_Explorer: I'm assuming you havee multiple disks in your system?
[20:29] <Bulletrulz> escoot i just want ubuntu regurlay so i dont run in to some of the prblems i had with wubi
[20:30] <The_Explorer> NcA, I have 2 drives, Sata AHCI WDC Green S&X models
[20:30] <undecim> If I select shutdown, at what point is the runlevel changed to 0?
[20:30] <escott> Bulletrulz, could you please spell my nickname correctly
[20:30] <uw> NcA escott whoops
[20:30] <uw> NcA escott, still though, same result
[20:30] <Bulletrulz> escott ok
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> undecim  start here http://linuxbasis.org/downloads_cron.html
[20:31] <undecim> ThePendulum: You could write a script to poll it and run zenity or xmessage when it's 0.... Though I'm not sure when the runlevel is actually changed.
[20:31] <escott> Bulletrulz, thank you. without knowing what problems you had with wubi, i can't say if they would be improved or not
[20:31] <The_Explorer> NcA, it cant be the drives, because that would be a different error. This has to be graphics or bios settings that would be different from ubuntu 10.x
[20:31] <uw> NcA escott, also, from fdisk -l, all of these disks report "Disk identifier: 0x00000000"
[20:31] <sw0rdfish> hi, did the old version ubuntu 8.10 or 9.10 live CD have stuff like smartctl or gparted installed?????????????????
[20:31] <uw> NcA escott except the ext4 disk
[20:31] <escott> uw, don't use fdisk. need to break that habit. sudo parted -l
[20:31] <NcA> The_Explorer: Sounds like when grub was installed, it's pointing to the wrong disk for your Ubuntu install
[20:32] <uw> escott, ok will do
[20:32] <Bulletrulz> escott anyway thx man
[20:32] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: no idea, why do you need to know?
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> sw0rdfish  8.10 and 9.10 are no longer supported
[20:32] <The_Explorer> NcA, I booted grub and selected recovery and Failsafe X option. After failsafe X, it failed to boot.
[20:32] <urlwolf> I have one of these trackpads: http://gizmodo.com/filco-smarttrack-neo/ but X recognizes it as a mouse. Is there any way I could convince it to recognize it as a trackpad?
[20:32] <NcA> The_Explorer: Sounds like it isn't graphics related then
[20:33] <Bulletrulz> i wanna put some themes on lubuntu is this possible?
[20:33] <Bulletrulz> !lubuntu
[20:33] <Bulletrulz> !kubuntu
[20:34] <Bulletrulz> !gobuntu
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> !botabuse| Bulletrulz
[20:34] <guntbert> !askthebot | Bulletrulz
[20:34] <uw> NcA escott ok i will keep working at this.  Thank you for your help.  I really appreciate it
[20:35] <NcA> uw: wait, what filesystem were the other disks?
[20:35] <sw0rdfish> guntbert, MonkeyDust: cuz thats the only live cd i have at the moment
[20:35] <sw0rdfish> and i need to use smartctl on an hdd
[20:35] <schultza_rcherba> how do i restart the samba service in 12.04... service samba restart doesnt find the service
[20:35] <NcA> schultza_rcherba: service smbd restart
[20:36] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: if you have it runnuin, why don't you try?
[20:36] <uw> NcA, they make up one zpool
[20:36] <NcA> look in /etc/init.d/ for the script names
[20:36] <deepsight> anyone knows what partition type should a mac partition_map have?
[20:36] <schultza_rcherba> unrecognized service
[20:36] <NcA> uw: ahhh
[20:36] <deepsight> (im trying to recover a partition with testdisk)
[20:36] <sw0rdfish> i'm struggling with my arch live cd atm, trying to get it online so i could install those packages
[20:36] <NcA> uw: that's a bit of a grey area, I've not touched zfs in ubuntu before
[20:37] <kantlivelong> deepsight: GPT
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> sw0rdfish  why not download it with the machine you're here with?
[20:37] <kantlivelong> deepsight: thats the table
[20:38] <kantlivelong> deepsight: other then that i dont think testdisk will handle osx partitions
[20:38] <uw> NcA, its not bad but i didnt define the zpool to use UUIDs, used /dev/sdX instead.  I'm not sure if you can use UUIDs but i will try
[20:38] <NcA> uw: best I can say is good luck! And do your research :)
[20:38] <sw0rdfish> and then what MonkeyDust ?
[20:38] <sw0rdfish> how do I get it to the live cd/
[20:39] <beonmaui> Aloha all.  12.01LTS is currently non-bootable on a troubled system.  I just need to rsync off encrypted data then reboot but am getting stuck by the creation and non-responsive nature of a USB drive that is not plugged in.  The error was on sdb so I plugged in a usb stick, now it's on sdc.  Does anybody know what created this ghost device and if I can edit it out of a config file so that it will boot?
[20:39] <deepsight> kantlivelong, it lists mac hfs, mac ufs, mC RAID, mac boot and mac label
[20:39] <uw> NcA, yup will do and thanks again
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> sw0rdfish  guess you can use any cd burning program to do it
[20:39] <beonmaui> [sdc] asking for cache data failed (plus other repeating lines)
[20:40] <aaa801> How can i mount the system as rw in a recovery root shell with a wubi install?
[20:40] <schultza_rcherba> ah... samba client is installed.. not server
[20:40] <beonmaui> first error seems to be usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[20:41] <beonmaui> four times
[20:41] <escott> aaa801, mount -o remount,rw /
[20:41] <aaa801> ty
[20:42] <aaa801> freking i915 ...
[20:42] <caesar_> where does one go in 12.04 to add user to vboxusers?
[20:43] <escott> caesar_, cli; sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers username
[20:44] <aaa801> o wtf
[20:44] <aaa801> this laptop has it in for me
[20:45] <caesar_> escott: i found that command but isn't it also in users accounts somewhere?
[20:45] <aaa801> Ubuntu splash is in top left, rest of screen is funky error colours
[20:45] <escott> caesar_, i think they took it out
[20:45] <mneptok> aaa801: language, please.
[20:45] <Bulletrulz> WINDOWS AZURE IS A COPY OF UBUNTU ONE
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> caps
[20:46] <Bulletrulz> srry
[20:48] <escott> !nomodeset | aaa801
[20:48] <aaa801> thanks, i had to put i915.modeset=1 to even get it to show
[20:49] <kb_oe> an interesting online comic book http://kh43.com
[20:50] <sam555> why does one need a caret after this command --> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[20:51] <zykotick9> sam555: lamp-server isn't a package, but a task (i'm guessing)
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> sam555  rather use tasksel (task select)
[20:52] <aaa801> escott: it showed the splash screen, then dumped me back to a black screen after that,
[20:53] <guntbert> MonkeyDust: sam555 but use tasksel for *addition* of tasks, *never* for removal!
[20:53] <guntbert> *only for addition
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> message taken
[20:54] <escott> aaa801, i dont really know
[20:54] <aaa801> il go pick through the xorg configs :/
[21:01] <donpdonp> how do i see/change what the 'system fixed width font' is?
[21:02] <donpdonp> (the font setting in gnome-terminal is set to that)
[21:03] <zykotick9> donpdonp: sidenote - i like terminus (both x and console available) as a fixed width font
[21:06] <codelurker> Bulletrulz: Azure is not a copy of Ubuntu One.  Ubuntu One is like Dropbox.  Azure is more like Amazon ECS.  Example - You cant run a database on ubuntu one.
[21:07] <mneptok> codelurker: offtopic nonetheless.
[21:07] <codelurker> agreed
[21:10] <HeadAche> Hello, I need to install make version 3.81, I have version 3.80. If I do apt-get install make. It says make is up to date. If I try manually building gnu-make from source and do make install, it still uses make version 3.80
[21:10] <donpdonp> zykotick9: cool thx
[21:12] <sam555> thank, zykotick9, MonkeyDust and guntbert
[21:13] <beonmaui> Great, ignore ignored all responses.  Is there a log of this channel?
[21:13]  * aaa801 crys,
[21:13] <aaa801> now its flashing alll the way through the bootscreen
[21:15] <D[4]ni> meh, i can't get my printer to work. i need to install a 32-bit version of libpopt0. i tried getlibs, but it didn't seem to help - ldd still says it is missing
[21:15] <GRMrGecko> When Ubuntu fails me, I go to Debian... Ubuntu fails me. "GROWROOT: FAILED: failed to get start and end for /dev/sdb4 in /dev/sdb"
[21:17] <Nach0z> D[4]ni: had that problem before, just removed libpopt0 from the deb dependency section, printer driver worked fine. not reccommended, clearly, but it worked >_>
[21:17] <rottik9> I am kinda a newbie to linux, would love some training, any suggestions?
[21:17] <D[4]ni> Nach0z: one executable of the driver fails to start.
[21:18] <bieb> this is sorta LTSP and Ubuntu question.. I have 12.04 installed on my ltsp server.. I have to connect to Active Directory.. I installed Likewise (now pbis) and I can do everything AD related testwise.. but I can't login to the server with AD credentials.. the users available are the user I created when installing Ubuntu and the Guest session.. no place for me to do domain
[21:18] <SuperEngineer> Hi folks.  Has anyone tried the Gimp 2.8 ppa? Is it safe in 12.04 as claimed?
[21:18] <bieb> domain\user
[21:18] <D[4]ni> cngpij: error while loading shared libraries: libpopt.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:18] <sam555> how does one find the latest linux headers to install emacs on ubuntu server 64?
[21:18] <Fleep> I'm running Ubuntu on an EC2 instance as a Postgres database server and in the past couple of days it's gone unavailable periodically forcing us to stop/start the instance and get new hardware. It's using an EBS volume as it's main drive so we still have all the logging. Where can I start looking for issues? I've checked in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog and haven't found anything notable when the outages began
[21:18] <Fleep> Anywhere else I should be looking?
[21:19] <GRMrGecko> rottik9: Best way to learn is by doing. Search for learn linux and learn basic terminal commands and also learn how the file structure is.
[21:20] <phaedra> Fleep, #ubuntu-server might be better for help
[21:20] <Fleep> phaedra: Thanks!
[21:20] <phaedra> Fleep, np
[21:21] <rottik9> I see, well i have been...looking for something else. paid or not
[21:21] <aaa801> holy.. full screen boot splash
[21:21] <D[4]ni> Nach0z: i already installed the drivers and stuff, but they don't work
[21:22] <aaa801> and now a black screen :/, any ideas guys
[21:22] <aaa801> im using nomodeset vga=733 i915.modeset=1
[21:23] <zykotick9> aaa801: fyi, vga= has been deprecated for a while (should still work though, but can also be an issue)
[21:23] <Mbae> Hi all
[21:23] <Tunn3l> hi
[21:23] <HeadAche> HELLO
[21:23] <schultza_rcherba> on boot... do f1 or ctrl + f1... or f12 to see the dmesg... if you can get them
[21:24] <beonmaui> I think it's alt f1 or control alt f1
[21:24] <The_Explorer> Just installed Ubuntu 12x, Freezes on boot. Live cd worked, Safe X failed, Grub did load...
[21:24] <schultza_rcherba> on shutdown ive been able to toggle with f12 for boot splash to dmesg OK/FAIL screen
[21:24] <zykotick9> beonmaui: on VTs it's just alt+Fkey, in Xorg it requires both ctrl+alt+Fkey
[21:25] <beonmaui> aok
[21:25] <schultza_rcherba> The_Explorer, what does grub say?
[21:25] <beonmaui> zykotick9: I guess I assumed X
[21:26] <zykotick9> beonmaui: save assumption ;)
[21:26] <zykotick9> s/save/safe/
[21:26] <aaa801> looks like this is my issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/541492
[21:26] <schultza_rcherba> is anyone still using epic/bitchx class irc clients?
[21:27] <beonmaui> schultza_rcherba: I miss bitchx, but still use irssi
[21:27] <schultza_rcherba> what is irssi?
[21:27] <zykotick9> schultza_rcherba: bitchx has security holes, irssi is a good replacement
[21:27] <luix> good morning/afternoon/night --- any boot troubleshooting in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:27] <schultza_rcherba> what about epic... what bitchx was directly branched from?
[21:27] <beonmaui> schultza_rcherba: old school, very scriptable, all console
[21:27] <curiousx> irssi is a IRC client
[21:27] <beonmaui> I lost touch with bitchx a long time ago
[21:27] <NictraSavios> Alright so I'm setting up Ubuntu for my mom and I have a little bit of an issue.... She has the typical windows XP, folder on desktopcall
[21:28] <NictraSavios> called stuf thats jam packed with all kinds of stuff... how do I sort this?
[21:28] <Embalmed> I installed the ubuntu cacti package and configured it to use apache2 with dpkg-reconfigure, but apache is still not pulling up the /cacti url.. any ideas what might be going on?
[21:28] <escott> NictraSavios, my advice: don't. if she wants it all in one folder thats her choice
[21:29] <Aprel> NictraSavios: Are you booted in Ubuntu and mounted the win partition, or booted in Windows/
[21:29] <NictraSavios> Sorry, I hit enter by accident while typing... and escott, yeah but then I gotta listen to her yelp while she sets up rythembox and shotwell and stuff. And nope, Ubuntu is installed, all her stuff is on a flash drive now.
[21:29] <curiousx> NictraSavios: with ubuntu-tweak you can see the trash en your home folder in desktop
[21:30] <curiousx> and* your home...
[21:30] <NictraSavios> I'm on my personal computer (Arch Linux/Ubuntu/OSX/Win7 Quad Boot Macbook) trying to sort her files out... well. I'm actually procrastinating doing it... but I will. haha.
[21:30] <Embalmed> hmm, removing it with --purge and reinstall now it works.. odd
[21:30] <NictraSavios> curiousx, Okay, but she didn't ask for that .. yet. She just wants this "Stuff" folder sorted.
[21:31] <Aprel> NictraSavios: you just want to organize it into folders? Maybe a bash script that mkdirs for every file ext (mp3s jpgs, etc.) mvs those files into those dirs.
[21:31] <escott> NictraSavios, there are suggested folders in ~ for Music Documents etc
[21:32] <NictraSavios> Aprel, Yeah, my thoughts were along those lines too... not as well formed. I can't say I'm any good with bash, is there anything like that already out there?
[21:32] <krababbel> um, if you do that script, your mom will kill you
[21:32] <NictraSavios> escott, Yeah, thats what I'm trying to sort it into. Right now its just one big cluster-mess of everything and anything.
[21:32] <krababbel> just do it then, it is a pain
[21:32] <HeadAche> It seems I have make 3.81 compiled, but doing make install doesnt correctly install it. When I type 'make' at the command line I still have version 3.80. What paths are checked? I manually installed the new version of make to /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin/make, but the shell --version without a full path still says 3.80
[21:33] <NictraSavios> krababbel, You may be right.. I didn't think of how they are organised by "Huggs" (Dog) and "Wedding" ... Oh god. I'm going to have to do this ....
[21:33] <beonmaui> I'm getting constant repeating errors while I try to fsck my media drive in root/safe mode. Every 50 seconds... "sd 5:0:0:0 [sdc] Asking for cache data failed", then "sd 5:0:0:0 [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through".  12.01LTS system will no longer boot due to this error.  Any clues?
[21:33] <macmartine> does linux cache symlinks? I have a cron that runs a rake file, but it's still running old code
[21:33] <SumoJim> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and can't seem to stop X and drop to a terminal window.    I have tried:  1) Ctrl-Alt-F2  2) sudo init 1  3) sudo stop gdm    All of these give me a dark grey screen with no cursor and no prompt.
[21:33] <NictraSavios> Ugh. Well... this should be an exercise in endurance the likes of a marthon.
[21:34] <beonmaui> BTW:  sdc is not plugges in
[21:34] <beanpole> hi all
[21:34] <NictraSavios> SumoJim, Do you know about sysrq keys?
[21:34] <escott> beonmaui, if the drive cache is failing you might be able to use hdparm to force it to bypass the cache
[21:34] <schultza_rcherba> beonmaui, actually the last post for news on irssi is dec 2011... while epic is this year... i think ill still with epic (parent of bitchx)
[21:34] <zykotick9> SumoJim: "sudo service gdm stop"
[21:34] <beonmaui> escott: not plugged in
[21:34] <SumoJim> NictraSavios: Somewhat
[21:34] <zykotick9> !runlevels > SumoJim
[21:35] <beonmaui> autocreated sdc instead of sdb when I plugged in a drive to fsck
[21:35] <krababbel> NictraSavios: do it one folder a day, or something, or whenever she needs some files, organize that part
[21:35] <beonmaui> errors continue
[21:35] <beanpole> why is my ubuntu booting slower than windoze 7
[21:35] <SumoJim> zykotick9: sudo service gdm stop took me to the same grey screen and rendered the PC unusable.
[21:36] <beonmaui> beanpole: probably some errors or too much vid accel without good hardware
[21:36] <NictraSavios> krababbel, I have about... 25 minutes.
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> !details| beanpole
[21:36] <NictraSavios> SumoJim, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[21:36] <zykotick9> SumoJim: are you using some vga= line perhaps?  sorry, no real suggestion then.
[21:36] <NictraSavios> SumoJim, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back
[21:36] <beanpole> hi i am running 12.04
[21:37] <beanpole> ubuntu and zubuntu zubuntu is faster wtf ubuntu
[21:37] <SumoJim> zykotick9: I'm using the default config in /etc/default/grub
[21:37] <HeadAche> I fixed it!
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> beanpole  watch your language here, please
[21:37] <HeadAche> Turns out I had some cross compiler on my $PATH variable coming *before* my local /usr/bin
[21:37] <SumoJim> NictraSavios: Ctrl-alt-F7 does nothing
[21:37] <Logan_> beanpole: What's Zubuntu?
[21:37] <beanpole> kubuntu is the shitiest distro i hav eva used it crashed in partitioning
[21:38] <SumoJim> This is a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> beanpole  language
[21:38] <beanpole> xubuntu i  call it zooboontu
[21:38] <beanpole> ahaha
[21:38] <SumoJim> Maybe just a bad install?
[21:38] <beanpole> i speak english mate
[21:38] <hawkal1> I have a password protected pdf I need to open. I know the password is one of 372 combinations I have with the pdf. Whats the quickest way to open the pdf testing all 372 combinations?
[21:39] <HeadAche> hawkal1: type in the correct combination
[21:39] <SumoJim> NictraSavios: Ctrl-Alt-F[Any] does nothing... just grey screen, no cursor, no prompt.
[21:39] <mouche> hawkal1: hire an intern
[21:39] <goddard> i think there is something wrong with my keyring
[21:39] <goddard> it is broken in netbeans and a few other programs
[21:40] <Boohbah> hawkal1: write a script to generate all possible combinations
[21:40] <hawkal1> Boohbah: I've done that but now i need a way to open the pdf using the cli
[21:40] <SumoJim> Ok, I'm going to re-install Ubuntu, and see if anything changes....
[21:41] <chabie> halooooo....
[21:41] <escott> hawkal1, see if the poppler utils will let you put the password in on the cli
[21:41] <chabie> haloooo
[21:41] <chabie> hallooo
[21:41] <hawkal1> escott: okay thank you
[21:41] <mouche> SumoJim: you could use autokey to automate the clicking. it uses python.
[21:41] <chabie> i have problem with my ubuntu
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> chabie  great! this is the support channel
[21:42] <beanpole_> olaaa
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> !es
[21:42] <SumoJim> mouche: Automate clicking what?
[21:43] <beanpole_> kubuntu crashed sayaing faulty dvd drive but i installed zubuntu wtf kubntu
[21:43] <Tunn3l> n1x
[21:43] <Tunn3l> arghh
[21:43] <krababbel> SumoJim: why, does the livecd work
[21:43] <Tunn3l> my nickname!
[21:43] <Tunn3l> btw, where do I change my hostname in this irc?
[21:43] <n1x> Tunn3l, really?? :P
[21:43] <SumoJim> krababbel: Good question, about to try now.
[21:43] <mouche> SumoJim: well typing too. Have it go through a list of combinations, type one in, wait, hit enter or click OK, and repeat
[21:43] <Tunn3l> yeah!!!
[21:43] <Tunn3l> xD
[21:43] <beanpole_> hey i have one question why do debian fanboys hate ubuntu fanboys
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> beanpole_  that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:44] <Tunn3l> beanpole_, that isn't true
[21:44] <beanpole_> unfortunately it is true
[21:44] <Tunn3l> !ask | beanpole_
[21:44] <Boohbah> hawkal1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/removing-password-from-pdf-on-linux/
[21:44] <beanpole_> :P
[21:44] <SumoJim> mouche: combinations of what? I haven't bee nkeeping up with conversations not directed at me, but I suspect your message was intgended for someome else?
[21:45] <dogmatic69> Hi all. Could anyone confirm that ubuntu would run this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/StorageTek-Fibre-Channel-1-9TB-14-Bay-HDD-Array-JBOD-NAS-/170830668306
[21:45] <mouche> SumoJim: whoops, it must have been
[21:45] <beanpole_> u all should be happy microsoft is baneed in germany ahahaha ;-0
[21:45] <chabie> this is my problem..
[21:45] <Tunn3l> Boohbah, does that password remover really work?
[21:45] <chabie> http://pastebin.com/nmZA44nB
[21:45] <Tunn3l> beanpole_, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:45] <beanpole_> how
[21:45] <chabie> there is solved??
[21:45] <beanpole_> i have a problem
[21:45] <Tunn3l> with /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:45] <beonmaui> 12.01LTS trouble still.  pointers towards this error anybody? system non-bootable... device does not exist afaik and is definetly not plugged in.  I need to edit an etc file somewhere I'd guess?? Just wanna boot, recover files, reinstall if needed. --->  sd 5:0:0:0 [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:45] <chabie> please i'm newbie
[21:45] <beanpole_> why ubuntu boots so slow zubuntu is faster
[21:46] <Tunn3l> omg
[21:46] <Boohbah> Tunn3l: you will notice that the password is required :)
[21:46] <beonmaui> every 50 seconds
[21:46] <mouche> hawkal1: if you can't enter the password from the cli, you could automate typing/clicking using Autokey. It uses python, so you could store the combinations in a list and then iterate over it.
[21:46] <beanpole_> can ny 1 help me
[21:46] <Tunn3l> Boohbah, arghh haha
[21:46] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?
[21:46] <beanpole_> odr wise i will delete ubuntu and install fedora 17
[21:46] <Tunn3l> beanpole_, go ahead
[21:47] <Boohbah> Tunn3l: but only 372 possible passwords can be bruteforced
[21:47] <beanpole_> waiting for fedora to release :)
[21:47] <krababbel> beonmaui: what device
[21:47] <Tunn3l> Boohbah, I found that one yeah :) with a little trick
[21:47] <beonmaui> krababbel: it thinks a usb flash drive
[21:47] <beanpole_> lol ubuntu users r fanboys ahaha :)
[21:47] <beonmaui> krababbel: sdb on boot, if I plug in another it's sdc error..  etc
[21:47] <hawkal1> boobbah + Mouche: Thank you very much
[21:47] <krababbel> beonmaui: you don't use it anymore? is that hdd you boot from?
[21:48] <beonmaui> krababbel: nope, sda
[21:48] <beanpole_> opensuse > fedora > ubuntu
[21:48] <beonmaui> krababbel: glitchy and odd.  started weeks ago, but now the system won't boot
[21:48] <krababbel> beonmaui: I had boot problems with one usb stick sometimes, changed it
[21:48] <beonmaui> krababbel: again, no usb sticks inserted at all
[21:49] <beonmaui> krababbel: lenovo ideabook, internal sata 500G, nothing else
[21:49] <beanpole_> Ok, the above is not that much of a real issue, but this is the main issue with Ubuntu. In my case, with every Ubuntu install comes new bugs.
[21:49] <beonmaui> krababbel: can't diagnose well without a CD, and need to make a livecd USB stick I guess.  Suggestions?
[21:49] <beonmaui> mm, guess I can plug in my external cd, off to try
[21:49] <olivier4444> beanpole_: what was wrong with unity?
[21:49] <krababbel> beonmaui: not really, a device which isn't plugged in, should be more than an empty file in linux
[21:50] <beanpole_> tablet interface aah
[21:50] <krababbel> unity ruleolzorz beanpole_
[21:50] <beanpole_> Ubuntu seems extra slow – All other distros are faster in comparison.
[21:50] <beonmaui> krababbel: I agree
[21:50] <olivier4444> are you trying it out on a tablet?
[21:50] <SumoJim> krababbel: Yea, live CD doesn't seem to be boothing to desktop, but I was able to install just fine with it... I'm going to try burning a new one.
[21:50] <krababbel> beonmaui: look in udev persistent rules maybe in /etc/
[21:50] <GRMrGecko> How can I contact an channel moderator?
[21:50] <beonmaui> krababbel: nonetheless, the device seems to get autocreated every boot
[21:50] <krababbel> beonmaui: and rebuild initramfs, but i'm new
[21:51] <beanpole_> yaaa ubuntu is better in tablets than in desktop imo
[21:51] <GRMrGecko> a user is spamming me
[21:51] <beanpole_> lulz
[21:51] <beonmaui> krababbel: mm, thx, will keep looking
[21:51] <krababbel> GRMrGecko: go to #freenode
[21:51] <beanpole_> mint does a gr8 job they listen to the users
[21:51] <chabie> woooooiiii
[21:51] <ant___> Hi
[21:51] <chabie> jancok
[21:51] <chabie> asu
[21:51] <chabie> http://pastebin.com/nmZA44nB
[21:51] <chabie> any solved?
[21:52] <beanpole_> unity has improved i must say :) but still :P
[21:52] <ant___> What's the easiest way of getting my global IP from the command line???
[21:52] <zykotick9> GRMrGecko: if you want an #ubuntu OP, try #ubuntu-ops
[21:52] <beanpole_> nvidia is buggy in ubuuntu lol
[21:52] <Unknown_> ant: wget -q -O - ipxen.com | tail -n 1
[21:52] <GRMrGecko> zykotick9: They are going on about SolusOS
[21:52] <GRMrGecko> whatever that is
[21:52] <chabie> rungu'no aku cok
[21:52] <krababbel> GRMrGecko: in #freenode the people were happy to note the spammer
[21:52] <ant___> I'll try that.
[21:52] <Unknown_> also works in conky ant
[21:53] <ant___> That's perfect, thank you!
[21:53] <chabie> fuck u all
[21:53] <chabie> please help me
[21:53] <beanpole_> ahaha
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> !patience
[21:53] <beanpole_> chubbyface
[21:54] <ant___> Yeah, mine was solved, thanks to unknown)
[21:54] <nuaimat> hello all, i had a xmbcbuntu setup on acer aspire revo, its connected though lan port eth0 , i can access it from LAN, but it is not connected to the net, while my other laptop connected to the same LAN can access the net. what might be the problem ? thanks :)
[21:54] <ant___> Unknown_: would you care to explain that command?
[21:55] <ant___> It works a treat, I'm just curious.
[21:55] <Unknown_> wish ant?
[21:55] <Unknown_> with
[21:55] <Unknown_> curious about what?
[21:55] <ant___> The IP command line thing.
[21:55] <deso> hey, I have Kubuntu installed on my Macbook Pro (5,5), brightness control won't work and the trackpad is overly sensitive when I'm trying to type; can anyone help me (I've done all the searching I can manage)
[21:56] <Unknown_> well wget pulls the index file from ipxen.com and then tail will grap the last line of the index file which is your ip address
[21:57] <chabie> i hate ubuntu forum
[21:57] <chabie> i hate ubuntu
[21:57] <Unknown_> chabie: me too
[21:57] <ant___> Sweet.  You mentioned conky, how would I integrate this into my config?
[21:57] <TheDrums> You can get your IP from ifconfig.me.
[21:57] <chabie> i quit
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> curl ifconfig.me
[21:58] <Unknown_> @ant 1 sec ill get it out of my conky.conf
[21:58] <Tunn3l> Conky <3
[21:58] <chabie> semua orang hanya mementingkan diri sendiri
[21:58] <beanpole_> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=8113
[21:58] <Tunn3l> chabie please speak english
[21:58] <beanpole_> my new awesome desktop
[21:58] <beanpole_> :P
[21:58] <beanpole_> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=8113
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Tunn3l  that was probably a rude insult
[21:58] <schultza_rcherba> conky is an on screen widget that can display (configurable) status on your computer... has dependancies i believe
[21:58] <Unknown_> add this ant
[21:58] <Unknown_> ${execi 3600 wget -q -O - checkip.dyndns.org|sed -e 's/.*Current IP Address: //' -e 's/<.*$//'
[21:58] <Tunn3l> nice beanpole_
[21:58] <schultza_rcherba> !conky
[21:58] <Unknown_> }
[21:58] <GRMrGecko> The only thing I like Ubuntu over Debian is the desktop environment modifications.
[21:58] <beanpole_> ;p
[21:59] <Unknown_> use the execi 3600 then the other command
[21:59] <Tunn3l> beanpole_, that is not the latest release?
[21:59] <Unknown_> also While ifconfig.me is good, ipxen is superior for configs, because it is just the plaintext IP.
[21:59] <chabie> aaaahhh.. all people just think about him self
[21:59] <mouche> beanpole_: how do you replace menu text with an icon?
[21:59] <beanpole_> its zubntu 12.04 wtf
[21:59] <Tunn3l> ah zubuntu
[22:00] <schultza_rcherba> beanpole_, what are you using for your desktop ?
[22:00] <schultza_rcherba> er GUI
[22:00] <chabie> where is the open mind here?
[22:00] <beanpole_> zoobuntu
[22:00] <chabie> is this nothing?
[22:00] <Unknown_> so ant
[22:00] <chabie> i hate u all
[22:00] <Unknown_> add this to your conky
[22:00] <Sidewinder> !ot > chabie
[22:00] <Unknown_> ${exec 3600 wget -q -O - ipxen.com | tail -n 1}
[22:01] <Unknown_> anything else?
[22:01] <nuaimat> hello all, i have ubuntu setup, it's connected to LAN but not to internet, other devices connected to the same LAN can access inet, can anyone help please ?
[22:01] <ant___> And that updates automatically?
[22:01] <schultza_rcherba> chabie, it looks like it is trying to use an existing file on your computer to download with... first try a "apt-get purge [pkg]" on it first and then reinstall.. let me know what that does, please..
[22:01] <beanpole_> my neighbour is a windowze user he loves unity lol i know why canonical preers unity hahaha
[22:01] <beonmaui> easier one then:  lubuntu system error.  when I insert a USB I get a DBUS error, an open window looking at the drive, and a "removable mediam is inserted" window that asks me to open in a file manager.  Clues??
[22:01] <Unknown_> @ant yes
[22:01] <ant___> Thank you :D
[22:02] <beonmaui> 12.01LTS as well, different system
[22:02] <chabie> taeeeeee'
[22:02] <chabie> jancoooook..
[22:02] <beanpole_> kubuntu is a real mess
[22:03] <beanpole_> :O
[22:03] <Tunn3l> gonna sleep! need to manage 300 users 2morrow
[22:03] <beanpole_> MICROSOFT BANNED IN GERMANY HOPE GERMANY WINS EURO 2012 AHAHAHA
[22:03] <nuaimat> guys, if you hate ubuntu, i don't know wtf are you doing here ? GTFO please !
[22:03] <Tunn3l> win2k8 servers..
[22:03] <Tunn3l> blehh
[22:03] <Tunn3l> beanpole_, should be kicked
[22:03] <schultza_rcherba> euro 2012?
[22:03] <Tunn3l> ciao guys
[22:04] <ant___> Win 2k8??? gtfo
[22:04] <Tunn3l> thats what I said
[22:04] <Tunn3l> yep
[22:04] <ant___> Using a windows backend is akin to having porcelain foundations on a house.
[22:04] <schultza_rcherba> lol
[22:04] <beanpole_> windows 8 is looking bad also metro is shit ;p
[22:05] <LnxMen> hows Unity? :P
[22:05] <ant___> Aaaahahahaha Metro... wtf were they thinking with that one.
[22:05] <a__> BLARGGGGGGG
[22:05]  * schultza_rcherba is still having problems with the latest and greatest games on linux (dx9+)
[22:05] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[22:05] <aaa801> well i fixed it going blackscreen when it boots
[22:05] <schultza_rcherba> unity? im sloooooowly getting used by it.. i mean used to it
[22:05] <aaa801> now its just the nomodeset issue :/
[22:06] <ThePendulum> Someone suggested using a GPT partition table rather than an MSDOS one... however, Windows 7 can not be installed on a GPT partition table. What partition table should I be using to correctly install both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 with the option which OS to boot during start-up?
[22:06] <chabie> fuck your ass baby
[22:06] <LinuX2half> How much does Chrome memory usage have?
[22:06] <LnxMen> I'm using Openbox and I'm satisfied xD
[22:06] <LinuX2half> When I try to load a webpage, it said: "He's dead Jim"
[22:07] <chabie> fuck
[22:07] <chabie> vagina
[22:07] <Sidewinder> !ops | chabie
[22:07] <chabie> dick
[22:07] <beanpole_> opera is best it has lowest memory in tabbed browsing
[22:07] <beanpole_> :)
[22:07] <chabie> ubotton : fuck your dick alone
[22:07] <yano> chabie: that's enough
[22:07] <chabie> what??
[22:08] <beanpole_> ahahah chabie what is ur problem u cannot play bf3 in ubuntu hahaha
[22:08] <Sidewinder> gone
[22:08] <escott> ThePendulum, that depends on what kind of system you have bios or efi. i was asking if you had an efi system
[22:08] <allens> no no.. its trying to install a package and wants to install  another version of the file.. and erroring out... libtasn i think it was
[22:08] <ThePendulum> escott: I have an UEFI system, which I made clear
[22:09] <escott> ThePendulum, then you MUST use GPT. Windows will not boot on EFI/MSDOS
[22:09] <ThePendulum> escott: I can't even install on GPT... and it can install on MSDOS and it booted on MSDOS
[22:09] <escott> ThePendulum, on the ubuntu side you will have to install grub-efi to have a bootloader for ubuntu
[22:09] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to remove the “Shut down …” and “Software up to date” lines in Ubuntu 12.04’s logout menu?
[22:09] <aaa801> HOYL FUCKNITS I GOT IT WORKING
[22:09] <escott> ThePendulum, then you don't have EFI. you have bios (or you are booting in bios emulation)
[22:10] <ThePendulum> escott: I am not an idiot
[22:10] <escott> !language | aaa801
[22:10] <aaa801> escott, had to change driver in xorg and then use nomodeset -vga=733 i915.modeset=1
[22:10] <ThePendulum> escott: I am sure I am running (U)EFI
[22:10]  * aaa801 dances around the room happely
[22:10] <imbezol> !spelling aaa801
[22:11] <imbezol> durn
[22:11] <ThePendulum> escott: Say it would be BIOS, then what partition table should I be using?
[22:11] <aaa801> ubuntu has killed my spelling skills, after messing with kernel settings for 3 hours ;)
[22:11] <allens> lol
[22:11] <escott> ThePendulum, the only supported windows boot methods are UEFI+GPT or BIOS+MSDOS. the other two combinations are not supported
[22:11] <ilpollo> spanish chanel please
[22:12] <imbezol> #ubuntu-es ?
[22:12] <escott> ThePendulum, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Windows_x64_64-bit_versions
[22:12] <ThePendulum> escott: I get an error during the installation of Windows 7 that it can not be installed to a GPT disk... that's a fact
[22:12] <allens> imbezol, si
[22:14] <escott> ThePendulum, you might have some kind of hybrid gpt/msdos partition table, which you can check by using gdisks
[22:15] <Steve^> How can I determine which entry in /dev corresponds to my DVD drive? I have a blank disk in the drive that I want to burn to
[22:15] <beanpole_> which is the best file manage dolphin nautilus or thunar ??/
[22:16] <imbezol> steve^: usually /dev/dvd or /dev/dvdrw
[22:16] <Steve^> imbezol, I have neither :(
[22:16] <imbezol> Steve^: do you have cdrw?
[22:16] <Aprel> my dvd drive is /dev/sr0
[22:16] <olivier4444> nautilus
[22:16] <olivier4444> :)
[22:16] <Steve^> imbezol, nope
[22:16] <Steve^> Aprel, I have that one!
[22:16] <beanpole_> ahaahaha my dear frnd is back :)
[22:16] <imbezol> Steve^: on my system dvd, dvdrw, cd, cdrw, are all symlinks to sr0
[22:17] <Steve^> awesome, thanks
[22:17] <imbezol> Steve^: hdparm -I /dev/sr0
[22:17] <beanpole_> thunar is fast
[22:17] <allens> is there a /proc file for knowing what a drive is capable of?
[22:18] <beanpole_> neva eva use pcmanfm it is really very bad
[22:18] <escott> allens, it would be in /sys, but you can use wodim --scanbus
[22:18] <Steve^> imbezol, HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Bad address
[22:18] <imbezol> Steve^: you'll want to use sudo
[22:18] <imbezol> if you didn't already
[22:18] <Steve^> I do :)
[22:18] <Steve^> bonus kudos to you imbezol, thanks a bunch
[22:19] <krababbel> Steve^: is it a sata drive? tried setting the port to ide in bios?
[22:19] <allens> ah, ok.. thanks escott... now that's a command im not going to remember soon
[22:19] <escott> allens, sorry confused you for another question wodim is specific to dvdrws
[22:19] <beanpole_> lxde should be banned it is the worst desktop environment i have used in my entire linux life :)
[22:19] <escott> allens, if you want hard drives then use hdparm
[22:19] <allens> it was CD/DVD
[22:19] <olivier4444> everything default on ubuntu is best :)
[22:19] <imbezol> allens & escott, smartctl also gives a bunch of info on a harddrive
[22:19] <allens> i was trying to learn on someone else's issue.. :)
[22:19] <beanpole_> aahahah fanboy
[22:20] <Guest36657> Eh, I just hope they make a GS remix
[22:20] <Guest36657> Ubuntu makes everything they put their spirit into great.
[22:20] <Guest36657> And I love GS, Unity is just mroe refined.
[22:20] <allens> No manual entry for smartctl
[22:20] <beanpole_> unity is slicker and faster have to agree :P
[22:20] <imbezol> allens: install smartmontools
[22:20] <beanpole_> canonical will screw it again in 12.10 :P hahaha
[22:21] <Guest36657> Well, in my experience GS is faster
[22:21] <ilpollo> spanish chanel please
[22:21] <Guest36657> But Unity is more visually appealing
[22:21] <Guest36657> And more intuitive
[22:21] <vlt> !es | ilpollo Right where you are now:
[22:21] <Guest36657> And you get to have Compiz
[22:21] <beanpole_> i don't know what gnome devs want
[22:21] <Guest36657> But, I must ask: Unity 3d or 2d?
[22:22] <ilpollo> please the spanish chanel, thanks
[22:22] <Steve^> 3d
[22:22] <beanpole_> lol 3d
[22:22] <beanpole_> ahaha
[22:22] <olivier4444> 3d
[22:22] <Steve^> 2d has bugs
[22:22] <Steve^> same as gnome classic
[22:22] <Guest36657> Yeah, it does.
[22:22] <xangua> !ot | Guest36657 Steve^
[22:22] <Steve^> and even that is bug-ridden when you use more than one monitor
[22:22] <beanpole_> dock in 2d is not that gr 8
[22:22] <Guest36657> But sometimes it feels smoother than 3d.
[22:22] <Guest36657> I'm still a 3d fan though.
[22:22] <ForSpareParts> Can anyone explain to me how to set emacs as my default text editor? I'm using gnome classic, if it matters. If I try to open anything in emacs it opens a blank buffer, unless I sudo emacs at the file from the terminal.
[22:23] <sumojim> I cannot get the Ubuntu 10.04 live CD to boot, I have already burned a second copy... Neither work, it just hangs with a pale purple background.
[22:23] <escott> ForSpareParts, set EDITOR in your .bashrc
[22:23] <ForSpareParts> escott, will that fix the problem with opening blank buffers, too?
[22:24] <ilpollo> sorry but i need help in the spanish chanel, i need the dir , thanks
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | sumojim
[22:24] <escott> ForSpareParts, if you get a blank buffer that goes away with sudo then its probably because you dont own the file. also you should not use sudo with gui programs
[22:24] <escott> !gksudo | ForSpareParts
[22:24] <beanpole_> hey is dream studio good for desktop use
[22:24] <beanpole_> ??
[22:24] <ilpollo> #ubuntu.es
[22:24] <wormmd> My local terminal is rxvt-unicode-256color, but I get 'rxvt-unicode-256color': unknown terminal type.
[22:25] <ForSpareParts> escott, ubottu, thank you.
[22:25] <wormmd> For a server I'm ssh'd into. How do I update it's TERMINFO or TERMCAP?
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> sumojim, burn it as an image at a slow speed and check the bots link.
[22:25] <ForSpareParts> Would it be unreasonable to force emacs to start gksudo all the time if I'm going to be editing a bunch of config files and stuff outside my home directory?
[22:25] <vlt> ilpollo: You have already been there. What’s the problem with #ubuntu-es?
[22:25] <ilpollo> #ubuntu-es
[22:25] <ForSpareParts> Like, I've got wordpress in /opt, for instance -- it'd be nice to be able to easily edit files in there with emacs.
[22:26] <beanpole_> hey i have question what is difference between gksudo and sudo
[22:26] <sumojim> wilee-nilee: Image should be good, checking link now.
[22:26] <imbezol> wormmd: i think the server has to have support for it
[22:26] <willie_> Could I ask an opinion really quick: Is getting a second monitor worth it? Does it increase your productivity at all? Is Ubuntu *automagically* compatible with multiple monitors?
[22:26] <imbezol> wormmd: you can just change your .bashrc to say if $TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color then set it to xterm-color
[22:26] <Aprel> willie: ubuntu is compatible. Make sure your gfx card supports it tho
[22:26] <xangua> !gksu | beanpole_
[22:27] <willie_> Aprel: SHould I get a second one though?
[22:27] <beanpole_> thanks good info :)
[22:27] <imbezol> wormmd: i eventually gave up on urxvt for that and other compatibility issues
[22:27] <wormmd> imbezol: I'll give that a go.
[22:28] <imbezol> wormmd: i've found roxterm to be great because it has all the features and can use sane TERM vars
[22:28] <willie_> Could I ask an opinion really quick: Is getting a second monitor worth it? Does it increase your productivity at all? Is Ubuntu *automagically* compatible with multiple monitors?
[22:28] <ceti331__> blender,blendercoders
[22:29] <wo0f> willie_, it works. ok if your gpu can handle it
[22:29] <imbezol> willie_: yes, yes, and yes
[22:29] <beanpole_> how to know if ubuntu is affected with virus
[22:29] <beanpole_> ??
[22:30] <Aprel> willie_: I use 2 monitors. Can't say i'm anymore prodictive. switching desktops in ubuntu is just as useful for me
[22:30] <imbezol> Aprel: depends what you od
[22:30] <imbezol> Aprel: i have a windows virtual machine on a second monitor because i have to be on a vpn full time as well
[22:30] <beanpole_> i heard ubuntu got infected with virus :O
[22:30] <imbezol> Aprel: one monitor would be painful for my setup
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> beanpole_, you have heard fud
[22:31] <imbezol> beanpole_: in 15 years i have seen 2 linux virii and neither were very clever
[22:31] <obyn> hi. i'm running xubuntu precise. i'd like to turn on an accesibility option that rapidly clicks if the mouse button has been held down for more than 1 second. i've looked around in the settings but found nothing.
[22:31] <allens> fud = fear,uncertain,doubt
[22:31] <beanpole_> good
[22:32] <beanpole_> why is kde so buggy man
[22:32] <chsados> anybody proficient in truecrypt/how the boot loader works.  currently i am trying to encrypt my entire C: drive which has windows 7 installed.  on a seperate drive (D) i have ubuntu installed.  I am at the part of the ful system encryption (window here http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u46173/HTtruecryptfull6_1.jpg) asking me if i have a dual boot setup.  Does this not pertain to me since my 2nd OS is installed on a seperate drive than
[22:32] <chsados>  my windows?
[22:32] <FloodBot1> chsados: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <beanpole_> kde partition crashed man wanted to use kde 4.8 it looks good
[22:32] <CAPITANO> Ciao a tutti!!!
[22:32] <chsados> anybody proficient in truecrypt/how the boot loader works.  currently i am trying to encrypt my entire C: drive which has windows 7 installed.  on a seperate drive (D) i have ubuntu installed.  I am at the part of the ful system encryption (window here http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u46173/HTtruecryptfull6_1.jpg) asking me if i have a dual boot setup.
[22:32] <chsados> Does this not pertain to me since my 2nd OS is installed on a seperate drive than my windows?
[22:32] <ForSpareParts> So, I tried opening a file my account has r/w permissions on in emacs through gnome right-click. Got a blank buffer.
[22:32] <FloodBot1> chsados: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <ForSpareParts> Any idea why that might happen?
[22:33] <beanpole_> this chat should be improved
[22:33] <sumojim> wilee-nilee: Odd thing is, it boots normall after an install, but doesn't work in Live mode. My end goal is actually to get to a command prompt without X running so I can install an Nvidia driver.
[22:33] <beanpole_> gmusicbrowser is better than rhythmbo
[22:33] <allens> chsados, yes
[22:33] <beanpole_> banshee is shit
[22:34] <zamba> hi there.. i was running two identical WD disks in a software raid-1 setup.. now the system has crashed and i need to retrieve the data off the disks.. when plugging either of the disks in a machine over usb, i see no partitions.. (fdisk -l returns nothing)..
[22:34] <xangua> !language | beanpole_
[22:34] <beanpole_> sit
[22:34] <beanpole_> ahaha
[22:34] <escott> zamba, gpt? use parted -l
[22:35] <beanpole_> kde makes me angry man
[22:35] <allens> beanpole_, why?
[22:35] <beanpole_> installer crashes
[22:35] <beanpole_> kubuntu crashed wtf
[22:35] <chsados> allens - so YES i need to select that i AM using dual OS?
[22:35] <beanpole_> lol hot dvd drive it was saying lulz
[22:35] <zamba> escott: what's gpt?
[22:36] <beanpole_> kubuntu just got screwed by me lol
[22:36] <allens> chsados, I would... even though the other partition is on the other drive... are you trying to encrypt both of them or just windows?
[22:36] <OerHeks> beanpole_, better join #kubuntu
[22:36] <chsados> just windows
[22:36] <allens> and this is really OT... is there a Truecrypt channel you can join?
[22:36] <beanpole_> ohh good idea
[22:36] <chsados> the c: drive - i have no idea how grub works
[22:36] <allens> yep... #truecrypt
[22:36] <chsados> c: = windows d: = ubuntu
[22:36] <beanpole_> i ll scold em for a horrible release
[22:37] <chsados> thanks allens ill confirm in that chan
[22:37] <allens> chsados, yw
[22:37] <willie_> Hey, do you guys know where I can find a guide/tutorial about all of the ins and outs and commands for IRC chatting? I'm new to it and I wish to learn more.
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> sumojim, that's the nvidia card and attempts to have everyone work on a live cd, you can crtl-alt-f1 to a tty in the install and do the deeds I think.
[22:39] <sumojim> wilee-nilee: Not sure what you mean by a tty in the install, but you gave me the idea to do a sudo init 1 and ssh from another PC to install
[22:39] <allens> wait a min... init 1 has networking?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> sumojim, tty is just a command area outside of the desktop, not sure of the true definition.
[22:40] <allens> its a terminal device (tty)... ctrl+alt+f1 opens a full  screen command terminal
[22:41] <escott> zamba, just stop using fdisk. it doesnt work for everything
[22:41] <allens> via wiki =>     tty, a Unix command that prints to standard output the name of the terminal connected to standard input.
[22:41] <sumojim> wilee-nilee: Yea, I was on earlier about a stopping X on a freshly installed version problem. Hitting any of crtl-alt-F[Any] takes me to a grey screen with no cursor and no prompt.
[22:42] <allens> what happens when you init 3 ?
[22:42] <bob_> trying to demo 12.04 but launcher panel is missing anyone know the fix?
[22:42] <zamba> escott: well, parted didn't show anything more
[22:42] <sumojim> wilee-nilee: I think it's a weird hardware compatability problem.
[22:42] <allens> sumojim, does the same thing happen when you init 1 or init 3?
[22:42] <willie_> bob_: try Alt-F2 then type in unity-panel
[22:43] <sumojim> allens: Yes
[22:43] <willie_> bob_: nevermind, just type in unity
[22:43] <allens> sumojim, how is this computer set up?
[22:43] <sumojim> It's a brand new laptop. Super high end.
[22:44] <sumojim> allens: Brand new high end laptop for customer.
[22:44] <sumojim> allen: Need anything specific?
[22:44] <beanpole_> cpu
[22:45] <allens> sumojim, what i it doing?
[22:45] <allens> s/what i/what is
[22:45] <mtrd`> any idea how my mail adress could spam me ? All my research ended up with Windows anti malwares
[22:46] <recon69_lap> mtrd` it's easy to spoof an email, you can have it say it's from anyone including you
[22:46] <beanpole_> hey what is the meaning of power user ??
[22:46] <mtrd`> recon69_lap, the only thing i can do is... close this adress ?
[22:47] <zykotick9> !runlevels > allens
[22:47] <recon69_lap> mtrd` no, just because an e-mail says it's from an address does not mean it is. just change your password if you think you account is being used
[22:47] <mtrd`> oh, okay, thank you. :)
[22:48] <beanpole_> is mint really leapfrogging ubuntu ??
[22:48] <sumojim> allens: I's seemingly working fine except I can't stop X and get to a terminal to install an Nvidia driver.... Aparently it has an intel graphics card and Nvidia graphics card.
[22:48] <allens> zykotick9, that really doesnt help when im learning about init in LPIC-101
[22:48] <Tangiera> what would be proper commands to display (a) ethernet speed & duplex (b) number of collisions?
[22:48] <beanpole_> mint is more popular than ubuntu lol
[22:49] <mneptok> beanpole_: please stay on-topic
[22:49] <beanpole_> is distrowatch accurate
[22:49] <sumojim> allens: I will try to install Bumblebee once I can get an NVidia driver installed.
[22:49] <beanpole_> what is the topic
[22:49] <mneptok> !offtopic > beanpole_
[22:49] <escott> zamba, if sudo parted -l /dev/sdb doesn't show anything it must not have a partition table. you could double check /proc/partitions
[22:49] <beanpole_> how to join offtopic
[22:49] <minas> when I open a terminal, the current directory is set to "~/.config"
[22:50] <minas> how can I change it to my home directory?
[22:50] <mneptok> beanpole_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:50] <zamba> escott: well, it -has- to be.. because it has been running as a software raid
[22:50] <zamba> escott: i checked both disks and both were empty
[22:50] <escott> zamba, was this bios raid?
[22:50] <zamba> escott: no, software
[22:50] <zykotick9> minas: how are you starting Xorg?  lightdm (or other DM) or with startx?
[22:50] <escott> zamba, what do you mean software raid? mdadm?
[22:51] <zamba> escott: yes
[22:51] <escott> zamba, and you were running mdadm on the raw device?
[22:51] <minas> zykotick9: I'm sorry, I didn't understand anything of what you said
[22:51] <sumojim> Does anyone have experience with an NVidia optimus graphics card and possibly Bumblebee?
[22:51] <allens> zykotick9, it still says to run "init 1" for changing the runlevel on upstart
[22:52] <zykotick9> minas: :) it's not an issue then.  good luck.  (why i asked, if you use startx then the default is whatever directory you started in)
[22:52] <zykotick9> allens: runlevels are largely all the same on debian/ubuntu
[22:52] <OerHeks> sumojim i do not, but the guys in #bumblebee are up2date
[22:52] <minas> zykotick9: I just open it using ctrl-alt-t
[22:52] <zykotick9> allens: for example, init 1 isn't command line, and init 3 isn't xorg...
[22:53] <zykotick9> minas: sorry, i don't have a suggestion for you.
[22:53] <Tangiera> what would be proper commands to display (a) ethernet speed & duplex (b) number of collisions?
[22:53] <minas> zykotick9: Thanks anyway :)
[22:53] <allens> zykotick9, sumo is trying to get out of x to a command prompt... ctrl+alt+f1 is not giving him a command prompt (he's updating graphics drivers)
[22:54] <sumojim> OerHeks: Oh, ok. Didn't even think to check if they had an IRC. I'll see if they have any ideas if my problems are surrounding that (I suspect so) thanks.
[22:54] <zykotick9> allens: well (i don't have any suggestions for that) but changing runlevels WON'T help
[22:54] <zth> what's the 12.04 choice of recommendation for a netbook?
[22:55] <chsados> another question: i am at the screen asking if there is "a non-windows boot loader (or boot manager) installed on the master boot record (MBR)?  again.  i have windows installed on C: and ubuntu on D:  in order for the screen to popup to allow me to dual boot i have to set D as the first boot drive..
[22:55] <allens> zykotick9, how will that not help?
[22:55] <zykotick9> !runlevels | allens
[22:55] <allens> why didnt they change runlevels then?
[22:55] <zykotick9> allens: you can't stop xorg on ubuntu using runlevels
[22:55] <allens> that's outside debian's standard... Run Level 1 is known as ‘single user’ mode. A more apt description would be ‘rescue’, or ‘trouble-shooting’ mode. In run level 1, no daemons (services) are started. Hopefully single user mode will allow you to fix whatever made the transition to rescue mode necessary.
[22:56] <zykotick9> allens: well, maybe it can be done?
[22:56] <allens> sumojim, i dont know an answer for your problem at the moment.. and im on my way home in a few
[22:57] <allens> i know it's a nother distro, but i know it can be done in opensuse
[22:57] <sumojim> allens: No worries, I'll figure something out eventually.
[22:57] <allens> but according to sumo, he doesnt get a command prompt (just a blank black screen) at init 1 or 3
[22:57] <chsados> is there anywat to see where grub is installed?
[22:57] <escott> chsados, there is the boot-info-script
[22:58] <allens> sumojim, i may be a lcd compat problem... try an external monitor for those modes?
[22:58] <sumojim> allens: I have an external monitor plugged in, but don't I need the nvidia driver to drive it?
[22:59] <allens> sumojim, for just a command prompt, you should be able to use the default vga driver while you are installing/upgrading the nvidia drivers
[23:00] <allens> gotta go... ttyl
[23:00] <sumojim> allens: Hmm... Maybey if I disable my Intel driver.
[23:00] <sumojim> allens
[23:00] <sumojim> allsns: later
[23:01] <Tangiera> sumojin; can you disable the intel video in the bios?
[23:02] <sumojim> Tangiera: My co-workers said they checked and they couldn't before they left for the day a few hors ago, I'll double check now.
[23:05] <sumojim> Tangiera: Nope, no option.
[23:05] <Tangiera> what about blacklisting the the driver for the intel?
[23:06] <chsados> escott may i pm you?
[23:06] <Tangiera> if you blacklistlist the intel driver driver, it would never try to load
[23:07] <chsados> in order to get my system to allow me to select ubunty i must select my D drive as first boot sequence.  if its at C it goes straight to windows.  I am trying to fully encrypt my C drive
[23:07] <chsados> i am at a screen in truecrypt asking if there is "a non-windows boot loader installed in the master boot record"
[23:07] <sumojim> Tangiera: Alright, just Googled how to do that's I'll try that in a minute.
[23:07] <chsados> im wondering if i hsould say yes or no to this questions
[23:08] <recon69_lap> chsados: I'm betting you're not fully backed up :)
[23:09] <chsados> not fully...but minimilly :D
[23:10] <chsados> all my movies/docs/passwords are on an external right now i just dont want to have to reinstall windows
[23:10] <psusi> chsados, and where are windows and ubuntu installed?
[23:10] <chsados> windows is installed on C drive ubunty on D
[23:10] <stef1a> I'm using 12.04 and Unity. I cannot edit the top panel -- no combination of clicks works. I've tried every combo of fn, the windows button, shift, ctrl, and alt while clicking, but nothing works. help?
[23:11] <chsados> in order to get the dual boot screen i have to have D set as first boot in bios
[23:11] <psusi> chsados, so what's the question?
[23:11] <chsados> my question is considering the above - is grub installed on D or C?
[23:11] <psusi> chsados, apparently "D"
[23:12] <stef1a> i should mention that i've been using the right mouse button.
[23:12] <chsados> its asking me if a non windows boot loader (ie grub im assuming in my case) is installed on the master boot record
[23:12] <chsados> and i think the master boot record is on D since this is a windows thing?
[23:12] <psusi> chsados, normally grub is installed to the MBR, yes...
[23:12] <trism> stef1a: you can't edit the unity panel (well, except for installing/uninstalling indicators), if you install gnome-panel and select gnome classic on the login screen you can edit the panel with alt+right click
[23:12] <psusi> chsados, each drive has its own MBR
[23:13] <psusi> chsados, it sounds like you have grub installed on one drive and windows on the other
[23:13] <chsados> pusi when i have C selected as first boot HDD it goes straight to windows so i dont think grub would be in that MBR?
[23:13] <chsados> yes
[23:13] <chsados> so im thinking for this question i should select NO i do not have a non windows boot loader installed on my master boot record (c:)
[23:14] <chsados> c:  *
[23:14] <Tangiera> chsados; the answer would be "yes",
[23:14] <chsados> hrmmm
[23:14] <stef1a> trism: but won't that get rid of the unity side panel? :/
[23:15] <chsados> i just installed ubunty literally 24 hours ago its fresh... perhaps it would be safest to just format the D drive and to truecrypt without all these complicated boot sector stuff?
[23:15] <trism> stef1a: it will, what modifications did you want to make with the panel?
[23:15] <Tangiera> chsados; whichever driver you have set to boot in the bios is the drive with the MBR in it
[23:15] <stef1a> trism: I want to add an app to it
[23:15] <stef1a> an indicator app
[23:16] <chsados> tangiera but when i select it as C to boot first it goes straight to windows
[23:16] <naryfa> chsados: you want the safest way? leave windows on its own drive, install linux on another, and install bootloader on the same drive you install linux on.
[23:16] <chsados> so there must be a MBR on c as well
[23:16] <openos> Helloo
[23:16] <naryfa> chsados: that's how I've always done it
[23:16] <escott> chsados, you have multiple mbrs one for each disk
[23:16] <Tangiera> chsados; when "d" is set to boot in the bios, then "d" is the C: drive, when "c" is set to boot in the bios then "c" is the "C:" drive
[23:16] <naryfa> chsados: upon boot on ONE TIME BOOT SCREEN (if your mobo has that feature) just select the drive to boot from
[23:16] <trism> stef1a: which indicator?
[23:17] <stef1a> trism: for an app called 'workaholic'
[23:17] <openos> Someone know how to remove unity and gnome shell after kde instalation ?? and how To make kde defaur DE
[23:17] <xangua> !purekde | openos
[23:17] <stef1a> it has no terminal options, and the only way to edit its preferences is from the panel indicator (this is how i did it in 10.10)
[23:17] <Tangiera> chsados; they both have an MBR, but only the MBR on the drive you're currently booting from counts
[23:17] <openos> And How To make KDE DEFAULT IDE
[23:18] <chsados> ok...so im going to hit yes. :S
[23:18] <chsados> if this screws everything up whats going to happen lol
[23:18] <trism> stef1a: oh, the indicator is there, you just want to get to the preferences?
[23:18] <HoNgOuRu> does anyone have sopcast installed on ubuntu ?????
[23:18] <trism> stef1a: left click, it is just a menu
[23:18] <Tangiera> the world will explode and godzilla will stomp on your house
[23:18] <escott> chsados, you can always boot to livecd and chroot in to reinstall grub
[23:18] <naryfa> openos: sudo apt-get remove unity unity-2d unity-2d-panel unity-2d-spread unity-asset-pool unity-services unity-lens-files unity-lens-music unity-lens-applications gir1.2-unity-5.0 unity-common indicator-sound indicator-power indicator-appmenu libindicator7 indicator-application indicator-datetime indicator-messages libnux-2.0-0 nux-tools libunity-misc4 unity-2d-common
[23:18] <HoNgOuRu> any sopcast user here?
[23:18] <HoNgOuRu> need a quick hand
[23:19] <Prodigal_> how to I install java to firefox? i downloaded the tar.gz and unzipped it
 what about gnome shell how te remove it and Make kde Default
[23:19] <naryfa> openos: to have KDE as a default you have to logout, choose KDE in LDM login screen and leave it that way.
[23:19] <naryfa> openos: log back in
[23:20] <psusi> chsados, answer to what question?
[23:20] <xangua> Prodigal_: if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras it will install openjdk with is already on the repository
[23:20] <chsados> well i selected YES and i got an error see here http://i.imgur.com/bDlYt.png
[23:20] <naryfa> openos: first make KDE default
[23:20] <escott> openos, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf user-session
[23:20] <naryfa> openos: before removing other stuff
[23:20] <Prodigal_> so apt-get install ubuntu-restricted?
[23:20] <openos> okey a will do that now
[23:20] <naryfa> openos: or take escott's advice
[23:21] <pzn> i know nothing about dlna... can I "stream" some app screen via dlna to a TV using ubuntu?
[23:21] <recon69_lap> Prodigal_: try  type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts"
[23:21] <Prodigal_> thank recon
[23:22] <zykotick9> recon69_lap: there is no sun-java* in ubuntu repos anymore
[23:22] <psusi> chsados, truecrypt does not play nice with grub
[23:22] <chsados> blarg
[23:23] <trism> stef1a: if the app only has a status icon and it isn't showing up, you may need to whitelist it though, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30742/how-do-i-access-and-enable-more-icons-to-be-in-the-system-tray
[23:23] <Prodigal_> in the tar folder i downloaded i have the bin lib man plugin folders...but cant get it to install
[23:23] <openos> How To Make this work in terminal /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf user-session
[23:23] <chsados> i think im just going to delete my ubuntu installation on D and truecrypt C alone.  and run ubuntu on a thumb drive and encrypt the entire thumb drive.
[23:24] <naryfa> openos: sudo nano /etc/...... , or sudo gedit /etc/.....
[23:24] <openos> i have kate
[23:24] <Tangiera> chsados; you could just temporarily disconnect the ubuntu drive while setting up truecrypt and then reconnect it later
[23:24] <naryfa> openos: use kate then
[23:25] <openos> there is a Blank doc
[23:25] <recon69_lap> Prodigal_: maybe "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" and "java -version" to see if it's installed
[23:25] <naryfa> openos: do the same without user-session
[23:25] <openos> Oki
[23:26] <openos> YEah now It's work
[23:26] <escott> !gksudo | naryfa openos
[23:26] <openos> user-session=gnome-shell I need to change it to user-session=kde
[23:27] <intok> ok, riddle me this batman, why is it on the POS comp I can transcode full 1920x1080p H.264 video files to a DVD.iso using DeVeDe, yet I can't transcode them anything else using Artista or Transmagedon since both of them crash after chewing on the file for a few mins.
[23:27] <naryfa> escott: I don't even know if kate is graphical, never used KDE
[23:27] <Prodigal_> thanks recon that did it
[23:27] <naryfa> openos: I think yes
  i need now to put kde in the place of gnome shell
[23:28] <openos> like this user-session=kde
[23:28] <naryfa> openos: yeah
 Thank You Broth
[23:29] <maradona10> is debian ny good
[23:29] <openos> now how to remove gnome shell
[23:29] <naryfa> openos: sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell-*
[23:29] <Tangiera> maradona10; it's the spiritual mentor of ubuntu
[23:29] <intok> maradona10 yeah, ubuntu is based on Debian, and Mint is based on Ubuntu
[23:29] <sumojim> I wish to blacklist my intel graphics driver, how can I find the name of the driver?
[23:30] <maradona10> should i install debian instead of ubuntu
[23:30] <naryfa> and wrigleys-spearmint is based on mint lol
[23:30] <naryfa> maradona10: you will have a higher learning curve
[23:30] <maradona10> should i go for it now
[23:30] <naryfa> maradona10: if you think you can handle it, go ahead
[23:30] <maradona10> i am thinking about replacing 10.04 lts
[23:31] <intok> maradona10 thats entirely up to you, for the average person Ubuntu or Mint are much eaisier to got to from Windows or Mac then Debian
[23:31] <escott> maradona10, debian has a strong focus on FOSS so things like "jockey" to install proprietary drivers are not present in debian
[23:31] <naryfa> maradona10: how long have you used Ubuntu?
[23:31] <maradona10> 2\3 days
[23:31] <naryfa> maradona10: +1 to mana for escott, vital info
[23:31] <recon69_lap> maradona10: lol, replacing 10.04 indeed
[23:31] <escott> maradona10, so look at things like http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and see if you want to deal with things like that or not
[23:32] <Tangiera> you wouldn't have stupid things like unity in debian
[23:32] <maradona10> debian is ugly
[23:32] <Tangiera> all computing is ugly
[23:32] <maradona10> is flash pre installed in debian
[23:33] <naryfa> maradona10: it's not
[23:33] <naryfa> maradona10: but it isn't difficult to install either
[23:33] <maradona10> is debian the oldest distro
[23:33] <xangua> !ot | Tangiera maradona10
[23:33] <OerHeks> maradona10, no need for flash with html5
[23:33] <naryfa> OerHeks: how come?
[23:34] <CookieM_> slackware is the oldest
[23:34] <maradona10> how to use html5
[23:34] <maradona10> is arch community better than ubuntu debian community
[23:35] <naryfa> maradona10: lol, try
[23:35] <OerHeks> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[23:35] <lionofgod> can someone please go to /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme and tell me the contents of the file?
[23:35] <Tangiera> ubuntu has the most active irc support channels. The others are kind of silent most of the time
[23:35] <naryfa> OerHeks: nice, thanks
[23:36] <maradona10> is mint better than ubuntu
[23:36] <lionofgod> no
[23:36] <lionofgod> obvs we gonna say yes
[23:36] <jclinux> hey all, new here with a strange question: i've accidentally multipathed my root filesystem on 12.04; how can i revert that?
[23:36] <OerHeks> maradona10, stop trolling, this is ubuntu support.
[23:36] <lionofgod> lol
[23:36] <maradona10> i heard mint looks good
[23:36] <lionofgod> can someone please tell me the results of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme!!!!
[23:37] <lionofgod> ^Sorry i meant the contents
[23:37] <jclinux> i'm trying to multi path another pair of SAN LUNs and finally got that but my config caused /dev/sda filesystems to become multipathed
[23:37] <naryfa> jclinux: how did you multipath it? What does it mean?
[23:37] <maradona10> what is this zorin os
[23:37] <jclinux> configuring /etc/multipath.conf
[23:37] <xangua> maradona10: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[23:37] <maradona10> which is the best distro i want to install in my inspiron
[23:38] <maradona10> tell me the best distro
[23:38] <lionofgod> Would someone please tell me the contents of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme I screwed around with the file so I need to know its original contents
[23:38] <escott> !best | maradona10
[23:38] <Tangiera> maradona10; have you used any kind of linux or unix before 2/3 days ago? If not, stick with ubuntu for a while and then switch later if you outgrow it
[23:38] <lionofgod> maradona10: Youw anna become a haxor, do backtrack
[23:38] <sumojim> I wish to blacklist my intel graphics driver, how can I find the name of the driver? lspci seems to give discriptions rather than names.
[23:38] <escott> sumojim, lsmod
[23:38] <lionofgod> maradona10: You wanna learn to use linux and then learn to ahck, use ubuntu then backtrack 5
[23:38] <escott> sumojim, i believe it would i915
[23:39] <maradona10> i wanna hear musci do some owrd works burn dvds play browser games
[23:39] <lionofgod> Would someone please tell me the contents of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme I screwed around with the file so I need to know its original contents
[23:39] <maradona10> suggest me a distro
[23:39] <lionofgod> Ubuntu
[23:39] <jclinux> i configured my multipath.conf with "multipathd -k" show config command then added a multipath config for the wwn for my SAN device, but i'd left out sda devices from the blacklist
[23:39] <lionofgod> = epic eyecandy + usability
[23:39] <Tangiera> maradona10; ubuntu will do all that
[23:39] <maradona10> is 12.04 good
[23:39] <lionofgod> Can someone PLEASE answer my QUESTION!!!
[23:39] <lionofgod> Would someone please tell me the contents of /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme I screwed around with the file so I need to know its original contents
[23:39] <OerHeks> !repeat | lionofgod
[23:40] <naryfa> sumojim: what if you search for intel in synaptic? will it show up?
[23:40] <escott> lionofgod, [Icon Theme]\nInherits=core
[23:40] <lionofgod> k ty
[23:40] <maradona10> is 1204 better than 10.04
[23:40] <escott> maradona10, stop it
[23:40] <maradona10> i heard both has compiz
[23:41] <maradona10> stop what
[23:41] <Tangiera> lionofgod; is the original file on your install disc?
[23:41] <lionofgod> esscot gave me the contents
[23:41] <escott> maradona10, asking offtopic questions. go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:41] <lionofgod> thanks : )
[23:42] <maradona10> should i stay with 10.04 or should i install 12.04
[23:42] <maradona10> tell me quick
[23:42] <naryfa> maradona10: make your own decision
[23:42] <kingofswords> my net is only partially working
[23:42] <lionofgod> maradona10: You need to watch porn? Ubuntu
[23:42] <maradona10> my frnd installed me this 10.04
[23:42] <lionofgod> Best image quality
[23:43] <lionofgod> very sharp
[23:43] <CookieM_> lionofgod try turning on hidden files, altered files are still on the disk
[23:43] <naryfa> hhahh
[23:43] <Guest75029> I am ™ Guest75029 ™
[23:43] <jclinux> let me rephrase my question: is there likely a relatively simple procedure for unmultipathing a root fiesystem or is it going to be something convoluted involving changing device symlinks, grub.conf, etc.?
[23:43] <lionofgod> CookieM_: thanx
[23:43] <maradona10> i don't watch porn just see a girl face and masturbate
[23:43] <escott> !ops
[23:43] <Tangiera> maradona10; sometimes older versions are more stable
[23:43] <lionofgod> maradona10: let me point you to Ubuntuofftopic...
[23:43] <maradona10> kk
[23:43] <lionofgod> maradona10: and 12.04 is REally stable
[23:44] <kingofswords> any1 in here know how to fix ubuntu problems?
[23:44] <maradona10> which is better btrfs or e4
[23:44] <naryfa> kingofswords: what's the specific problem?
[23:44] <kingofswords> dont know....
[23:44] <maradona10> ok i have decide iwill install this pangoling
[23:44] <escott> kingofswords, details please
[23:44] <kingofswords> mynet is loading half the web pges i want but not other half
[23:44] <maradona10> bye all thanks for help
[23:45] <maradona10> if i run in2 trouble i will comeback okk
[23:45] <kingofswords> escott, in fact web isnt workin  at all nowe
[23:46] <escott> kingofswords, (a) can you ping those website (open a terminal and type "ping www.google.com" or some other website) (b) do you have a proxy of any kind?
[23:46] <kingofswords> escott, i tether on a mobile
[23:46] <sumojim> escott: lsmod shows (Not exact format) [vgastate->vga1bfb], [videodev->uvcvideo], [v4l1_compat->uvcvideo, videodev], [output->video]. I'm assuming I need to blaccklist v4l1_compat? (I see no mention of i915) I may try naryfa's suggestion to look it up and temporarily uninstall it.
[23:46] <maradona10> hey guys mageia 2 just released should i install it
[23:46] <escott> kingofswords, good chance they are throttling you. are you paying for mobile tethering
[23:47] <maradona10> i have installed mandriva
[23:47] <hoanghoatham_aj> ffff
[23:47] <maradona10> is mageia based on mandriva
[23:47] <kingofswords> escott, no throttling....its proper unlimited, been using for months now
[23:47] <twilson_> Hi I'm on 12.04 with the latest updates. When I booted up this morning none of my windows contain borders or title bars, there are other problems too, Alt-Tab doesn't switch between windows anymore, Settings > Window manager and Settings > Window Manager Tweaks don't load (grey screen only). It makes it a bit difficult to get things done
[23:47] <escott> sumojim, uvcvideo is for your camera not the video card. not sure what vga1bfb
[23:47] <hoanghoatham_aj> 22222222
[23:47] <avinash> Hi friends, i am not able to mount a cifs directory in 12.04 .. was using 11.10 and was working .. not sure what is goofed up .. "sudo mount -t cifs 192.168.10.29:Public /media/labs.Public -o username=amahadeva"
[23:47] <avinash> command isn't working .. can some one pls help
[23:47] <mneptok> !offtopic > maradona10
[23:48] <kingofswords> escott, pinged google and it just keeps listed results
[23:48] <escott> mneptok, can you just kick him, he has been at it for a good 15minutes now
[23:48] <escott> kingofswords, what about the websites that werent working?
[23:48] <kingofswords> escott, they were working earlier
[23:48] <oqpo> Hi, I need to install java, but I don't know which of all versions. I see there is openjdk-6-jre and openjdk-7-jre, and also the one from Oracle. Which one is the recommended?
[23:49] <kingofswords> escott, too many sites for it sites being down
[23:49] <nodestool> oqpo: i tend to use sun-java
[23:49] <nodestool> oqpo: you can install more than one, and choose which one to use as the default
[23:49] <escott> mneptok, thanks
[23:50] <kingofswords> escott, on speedtest im getting 128 ping and 4.58meg dl
[23:50] <avinash> if i check "man mount", username option isn't there .. but it was there in 11.10 and was working gr8 .. now it doesn't ..
[23:51] <arooni-mobile__> hi folks.  my hard drive is dying.  other than /home ... what should i be backing up prior to swapping the disk?
[23:51] <oqpo> nodestool: ah, that is a good idea, I will try the the openjdk-7-jre one.
[23:51] <auu> Hello. I have a new laptop. My wireless is not working. I downloaded the driver and ran the installation but it failed resulting into network totally down as well (I needed to reboot:D).. I am having NB Lenovo IdeaPad Z570 and the wifi is Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[23:52] <Tangiera> arooni-mobile__; if you have enough space for backup, backup everything
[23:52] <psusi> arooni-mobile, if you don't want to have to reinstall, everything
[23:52] <escott> kingofswords, it sounds like things are working, but that you might just be overusing the limited connection
[23:52] <kingofswords> escott, its not limited thou....
[23:52] <arooni-mobile__> Tangiera, well i dont have an unlimited space
[23:52] <escott> kingofswords, bandwidth limited
[23:52] <kingofswords> escott, it is an actual unlimited bandwidth
[23:53] <Tangiera> arooni-mobile__; what percentage of your used space is available for backup space
[23:53] <kingofswords> escott, its true unlimited unlike other mobile networks
[23:53] <escott> kingofswords, Bandwidth (computing) or digital bandwidth: a rate of data transfer, bit rate or throughput, measured in bits per second (bps)
[23:53] <kingofswords> escott, 4.28meg?
[23:54] <escott> kingofswords, with a fairly high ping
[23:54] <TomKang> hi all, i installed android on ubuntu, but it error, Can you send  link steps install android?
[23:54] <auu> anyone to help me with the wifi card? please?
[23:54] <kingofswords> escott, i dont normal have problems getting on these sites
[23:54] <naryfa> sumojim: did it show up?
[23:55] <TomKang> kdjg
[23:55] <TomKang> sdkggjdg
[23:55] <TomKang> sddkgjgdkg
[23:55] <kingofswords> escott, plus the fact my ubuntu updated it self last nite plus ive constantly been having probs with ubuntu
[23:55] <escott> kingofswords, then you have to be more specific about a website that isnt working. then you can ping it, and perhaps try running wget to see if you can download anything
[23:55] <arooni-mobile__> Tangiera, i have eough froom for most of /home .. but should i be backing up anything else?  /var/  /opt/ etc
[23:55] <kingofswords> escott, its half the sites im using
[23:55] <escott> kingofswords, then pick one that isnt working right now
[23:56] <kingofswords> escott, what is ping readout suppose to be?
[23:56] <Tangiera> arooni-mobile__; home would be most important, unless you have custom files in other directories, the other directories would be reinitialized on a reinstall
[23:57] <escott> kingofswords, 128ms is high, but not awful. 50ms is normal for me
[23:57] <kingofswords> escott, 128 seems norm for me...but its a molbile so not bad i guess
[23:57] <knightrage> auu: guessing you got the driver off of http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false ?
[23:58] <escott> kingofswords, if it is responding to ping then try running "wget http://www.google.com" replacing www.google.com with whatever website you want
[23:58] <auu> knightrage: yes. maybe the trouble is I'm having a new kernel coming with 12.10
[23:58] <cosmicfires> how can I use 2 nvidia video cards with 12.04?
[23:58] <auu> knightrage: I mean 12.04 :)
[23:58] <kingofswords> escott, whats wget do?
[23:59] <escott> kingofswords, it will download the text of the website (no images)
[23:59] <kingofswords> ahh nice one ty