| micahg | knome: I'd like to set an address for the xubuntu-artwork team, do you mind if I set it to xubuntu-devel@l.u.c? | 01:21 |
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| micahg | this should prevent e-mail from going to recipients when the team is subscribed to a bug | 01:22 |
| bluesabre-laptop | knome: I know this is a late request, but can we enable the monitor power management (monitor to standby instead of black but on) for 12.10? Or does it not work properly? | 01:38 |
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| micahg | mr_pouit: congrats on being the top uploader in quantal :) http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/ | 05:50 |
| pleia2 | micahg: I used to do debian package (well, still have one package in debian), are there bite-size ways I can help out? | 05:51 |
| pleia2 | disappointed I got out of it, mostly because my job went very sysadminy rather than sticking to the debian package stuff, mostly I'm just maintaining packages at work now | 05:51 |
| micahg | pleia2: sure, bug fixes, merges | 05:52 |
| * micahg isn't up on the list of what needs to be done, most is done in Debian | 05:53 | |
| pleia2 | ok, I'll have a look around debian xfce | 05:54 |
| pleia2 | ah, svn :) | 05:54 |
| micahg | I'm sure Debian xfce would love help with bugs and what not (I'm sure we could use the help as well) | 05:55 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 05:56 |
| micahg | and if you need sponsoring in Ubuntu, I'm happy to help | 05:57 |
| pleia2 | much appreciated, I've never actually contributed directly to Ubuntu dev stuff | 05:58 |
| micahg | we've only got ~200 devs for all of Ubuntu, we definitely can use more | 06:00 |
| micahg | err..I should say 200 uploaders | 06:00 |
| * pleia2 nods | 06:00 | |
| ochosi | morning | 06:01 |
| pleia2 | I'm not quite up to speed with current tools, I was only really active in debian for a few years from 2006-2008ish | 06:01 |
| micahg | #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-packaging are great places to hang out to learn | 06:02 |
| micahg | and ask questions as well | 06:03 |
| pleia2 | I still lurk in #debian-mentors, should probably join -motu and -packaging to see how things are on this side of things | 06:07 |
| micahg | yeah, #debian-mentors is good too | 06:09 |
| ochosi | strange bug, ristretto hangs when started from thunar with exo-open (could be a 4.10 ppa regression) | 06:45 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: just uploaded a mockup for the --minimal dialog to the spec | 06:59 |
| ochosi | does anyone have a clue why my image-attachment in ubuntu-wiki is scaled up? | 07:09 |
| knome | micahg, sounds fine | 07:11 |
| micahg | knome: no, haven't looked at the development pages yet, I'd be happy to have people applying for xubuntu-dev if it's desired | 07:11 |
| micahg | err...xubuntu packageset | 07:12 |
| knome | heh, yeah :) | 07:12 |
| knome | it would be great if we could have *some* kind of "mentoring" | 07:13 |
| knome | i don't know what that would actually mean... but when people come asking how they can help us on the programming/packaging side, i don't know where exactly to point them | 07:13 |
| micahg | knome: we just had that discussion about an hour ago :) | 07:14 |
| knome | micahg, mm-hmm; unfortunately, the website is not updated accordingly | 07:15 |
| knome | micahg, i mean, what i'd actually like to do with the website/wiki is the same we've done for the rest of the areas of contribution: | 07:15 |
| knome | micahg, put anything that end-users or people *starting to contribute* to website, and only those things that developers need to reference *when already contributing* to wiki | 07:16 |
| ochosi | how can i add a TOC to a page in the ubuntu wiki? | 07:31 |
| knome | <<TableOfContents>> ?? | 07:32 |
| knome | or <<TableOfContents()>> | 07:32 |
| ochosi | wow, that looks very ugly | 07:33 |
| ochosi | i thought it would be positioned to the right and thrown in a box automatically | 07:33 |
| ochosi | but this plain list is really useless | 07:33 |
| knome | hmm. i wonder if there was some ubuntu template then | 08:08 |
| knome | that was moinmoin standard | 08:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, i haven't found anything else than that either | 08:09 |
| astraljava | ||<tablestyle="float:right; font-size: 0.9em; width:40%; margin: 1em 1em 0 0;" style="padding:0.5em; background:#F1F1ED;"><<TableOfContents>>|| | 08:39 |
| ochosi | thanks | 08:39 |
| ochosi | found one in older xubuntu patges | 08:39 |
| ochosi | there really should be a template for this | 08:39 |
| astraljava | Ok, I found it on the Studio meeting minutes page. | 08:40 |
| ochosi | astraljava: btw, if you have input on the spec (might be interesting for -studio as well), let me know: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/MultipleMonitors | 08:41 |
| ochosi | and feel free to pass it around | 08:41 |
| ochosi | it's still unfinished though | 08:41 |
| astraljava | ochosi: I'm positive it'll be interesting for many Studio users, as screen space is much needed in many functions. Thanks! I'll have a look, and mention it on #ubuntustudio-devel as well. | 08:44 |
| ochosi | thanks | 08:44 |
| ochosi | i'm updating that spec with more mockups on the go, will take a bit longer till it's finished | 08:55 |
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| knome | idea, which i'll also present in the reviewed strategy document: | 10:22 |
| knome | 1) do a few contributions, and you'll be able to join a team (like art, or web) for 'probation' | 10:22 |
| knome | 2) continue contributing and indicate motivation to contribute perpetually, and you'll be accepted to the team | 10:23 |
| ochosi | bluesabre-laptop: the custom date dialog looks good! all in all, very nice improvements there! | 10:39 |
| ochosi | bluesabre-laptop: humm, while the mime-list is kinda nice, it's also far too long... :) | 10:40 |
| bluesabre-laptop | ochosi: Yes, the mimetype list is insanely long. I could get rid of it, or try to split it into 2 comboboxes | 10:43 |
| ochosi | maybe there's a better list we could use instead | 10:43 |
| ochosi | i'll try to ask around | 10:43 |
| bluesabre-laptop | cool, thanks. The mimetypes also has a list of file extensions with it, which is just as long but possibly more friendly | 10:45 |
| ochosi | right | 10:45 |
| ochosi | what about grouping them? | 10:45 |
| ochosi | i mean everything with application/... goes into "application" | 10:45 |
| ochosi | (like the Group function in mysql) | 10:46 |
| ochosi | cause if you only want a single extension you most likely know the name and then it's always quicker to enter that by hand | 10:46 |
| bluesabre-laptop | that's currently what the others do (documents = text, pictures = image, etc) | 10:47 |
| ochosi | yeah | 10:47 |
| ochosi | but there are more choices in the combobox, no? | 10:47 |
| ochosi | (about applications: we could really limit them by extension) | 10:47 |
| bluesabre-laptop | agreed | 10:48 |
| ochosi | btw, is the custom extension filter supposed to work alreadyß | 10:48 |
| bluesabre-laptop | it was working with my limited testing | 10:48 |
| ochosi | right | 10:48 |
| ochosi | cause it seems it can "get stuck" | 10:48 |
| ochosi | after trying the filter (no results) and updating the searchterm nothing happens anymore | 10:49 |
| bluesabre-laptop | yikes | 10:49 |
| ochosi | i get "IndexError: string index out of range" | 10:49 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05222012-124944pm.php | 10:49 |
| bluesabre-laptop | I'll poke around with it a bit today and see what I can come up with | 10:50 |
| ochosi | sure | 10:51 |
| bluesabre-laptop | I probably have my nested if statements in the wrong order | 10:51 |
| ochosi | anyway, the other filters are working great | 10:51 |
| bluesabre-laptop | awesome | 10:51 |
| ochosi | i'll give it more testing to be able to give you more feedback | 10:51 |
| bluesabre-laptop | sounds good. I was really pleased with myself when I got the date filters to work | 10:51 |
| ochosi | :) | 10:52 |
| ochosi | yeah, they'er pretty cool | 10:52 |
| ochosi | and the menu button is also working/looking nicely now :) | 10:52 |
| ochosi | ah | 10:53 |
| ochosi | the custom date filter doesn't automatically update the search-results | 10:53 |
| ochosi | i have to execute the search again | 10:53 |
| bluesabre-laptop | woops | 10:53 |
| bluesabre-laptop | easy fix (hopefully) | 10:53 |
| ochosi | :) | 10:53 |
| ochosi | but the filtering works for as much as i can tell | 10:54 |
| ochosi | the dateformat is very american btw | 10:55 |
| ochosi | (in the last-modified column) | 10:55 |
| bluesabre-laptop | supposed, it should format based on locale | 10:55 |
| ochosi | yeah, that would be ideal | 10:55 |
| ochosi | but atm it's the same in thunar, so... | 10:55 |
| ochosi | it's something for final polishing | 10:56 |
| bluesabre-laptop | I'll set up a european vm for some extra testing, :D | 10:56 |
| ochosi | hehe | 10:56 |
| ochosi | i think you can install a different locale and switch | 10:56 |
| ochosi | i think 2px padding on the left side of the statusbar would be good | 10:56 |
| ochosi | otherwise the font looks glued to the edge | 10:56 |
| bluesabre-laptop | yeah, but my spanish has been slipping anyway, could use the practice | 10:57 |
| ochosi | :) | 10:57 |
| ochosi | in that case: venga! | 10:58 |
| ochosi | (or if you learned your .es in .mx: ándale! arriba! ándale!) | 10:58 |
| bluesabre-laptop | haha | 10:59 |
| bluesabre-laptop | calendar filtering is fixed, padding is added. | 11:05 |
| bluesabre-laptop | bbl | 11:05 |
| ochosi | cya | 11:08 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: hmm, the custom extension entering doesn't seem to work for me | 12:53 |
| ochosi | however the calendar works great now | 12:54 |
| ochosi | (i just have to improve greybird's theming of that widget) | 12:54 |
| ochosi | another common error-source: tick a few filters and then hide the advanced-sidebar | 12:56 |
| ochosi | the filters will remain active and hinder all future searches until catfish gets restarted | 12:56 |
| ochosi | my suggestion is to reset all filters when the advanced-sidebar is hidden/deactivated | 12:56 |
| ochosi | bluesabre, bluesabre-laptop ^ :) | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | good idea | 12:57 |
| ochosi | ah | 12:57 |
| ochosi | wasn't sure which nick you're using | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | always a mystery | 12:57 |
| ochosi | why are you using two at the same time btw? | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | laptop at home/vm at work | 12:57 |
| ochosi | right, but the laptop seems to be always on, right? | 12:58 |
| bluesabre | our network is tied down, so I can't remote out | 12:58 |
| ochosi | oh | 12:58 |
| ochosi | i see | 12:58 |
| ochosi | that makes sense then | 12:58 |
| bluesabre | I figured that it had to get confusing | 12:59 |
| ochosi | :) | 12:59 |
| ochosi | nah, it's fine | 12:59 |
| ochosi | i'll just be twice as annoying pinging you twice ;) | 12:59 |
| ochosi | i just discovered another bug | 13:01 |
| ochosi | when you open and close the about-dialog a few times it'll break at some point | 13:02 |
| ochosi | http://dpaste.com/751119/ | 13:02 |
| ochosi | so something is fishy there | 13:02 |
| ochosi | error-messages above ^ | 13:02 |
| bluesabre | I think I know how to fix that | 13:04 |
| ochosi | okie | 13:04 |
| bluesabre | this is going to be one stable app | 13:04 |
| * ochosi is keeping his fingers crossed | 13:04 | |
| ochosi | ;) | 13:04 |
| ochosi | a tooltip for the "search thoroughly" would also be good | 13:05 |
| ochosi | btw, do you like that wording? (after all you're the native speaker) | 13:06 |
| bluesabre | Sounded fine to me. | 13:06 |
| ochosi | cool | 13:06 |
| ochosi | oh and the duplication i mentioned earlier with $searchterm in the statusbar | 13:06 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 13:06 |
| ochosi | i think it's safe to drop that | 13:07 |
| bluesabre | I'm just going to remove it | 13:07 |
| ochosi | because i just noticed the window-border also contains $searchterm :) | 13:07 |
| bluesabre | I was looking at the windows search (gasp) and they have it at the top, and only the number at the bottom, made sense | 13:07 |
| ochosi | mhm | 13:07 |
| laite | ochosi: what would you say about changing the scrollbars blue: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05222012-040521pm.php | 13:08 |
| laite | too much blue? | 13:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, also it's better to have it in the window-title, because then the window is more easily identified (alt-tab, panel,..) | 13:08 |
| ochosi | laite: heh, it's pretty blue, yeah :) but it doesn't look bad | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | laite: what audio player is that? | 13:09 |
| laite | bluesabre: gmusicbrowser =) | 13:09 |
| ochosi | laite: to the least you can make the hover-color blue | 13:09 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: this is basically where laite and me got to know each other :) | 13:09 |
| laite | ochosi: yeah, that might work better | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | I like that interface arrangement | 13:10 |
| laite | Thanks, it's been a work in progress for a long time, but pretty much steady for now :) | 13:11 |
| ochosi | laite: any thoughts on the catfish-revamp? | 13:17 |
| laite | ochosi: it looks to shape up pretty good :) | 13:18 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: say, is it possible that suggestions stop working after one search? | 13:18 |
| laite | for me, 'search thoroughly' seems a bit clumsy though, but I don't know what would be better | 13:18 |
| ochosi | laite: if you have a better idea later feel free to let us know :) | 13:19 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: It's possible, I'm not sure why it would happen though | 13:19 |
| laite | I mean, it sounds like the application does lousy job on the first run, and that is not a good image for end-user to have :) | 13:19 |
| bluesabre | laite: Quick Search vs Deep Search? | 13:20 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ok, i think i can narrow it down: if you search for the same searchterm again, it doesn't pop up suggestions anymore | 13:20 |
| laite | bluesabre: much better | 13:20 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: (i mean while the results are still there) | 13:20 |
| bluesabre | thats odd | 13:20 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: still works for me? | 13:21 |
| ochosi | my bad, i used a searchterm that (for some reason) doesn't show me any suggestions the first time | 13:22 |
| ochosi | laite: what do you think of executing an action (exo-open) on suggestions that are actually filenames instead of searching for a filename? | 13:22 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i think another good option would be "close catfish after executing action" (i.e. if you double-click to exo-open a file from the result-set it closes itself) | 13:23 |
| laite | ochosi: exo-open on double clicking is must, but I'm not really sure what you mean by 'is a filename' | 13:24 |
| ochosi | laite: i'm talking about the suggestions-popup | 13:24 |
| laite | oh, right | 13:24 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I'm not so sure about that. If somebody is looking for a specific image or something, they might want to open several | 13:24 |
| laite | I think it sounds good | 13:25 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, probably, that's why i'd make it optional | 13:25 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: but it could get in the way if you always have to close the programme that actually just lost focus | 13:25 |
| bluesabre | true | 13:25 |
| laite | would it be too much a hassle if there was somethign like ctrl+click to open but not closing catfish? | 13:26 |
| laite | when 'close when double-clicking' is selected | 13:27 |
| ochosi | laite: the question is less: is it too much of a hassle, it's more: is it discoverable enough? | 13:30 |
| ochosi | we could just as well map it to middle-click | 13:30 |
| laite | true, I actually thought of that from web browsers, but since my mouse's middleclick has been broken for a while I've gotten used to ctrl+click links =D | 13:31 |
| ochosi | heh | 13:31 |
| ochosi | you know, mice aren't that expensive anymore ;) | 13:31 |
| ochosi | </just_sayin> | 13:32 |
| laite | But I really like my current one :P | 13:32 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: easy with ~80 no-change rebuilds :P | 13:33 |
| ochosi | bbl | 15:24 |
| astraljava | knome: If you're wondering whether the poll gets relatively few voters, it could be due to not being able to save your submissions on doodle. | 17:47 |
| knome | astraljava, huh? | 17:47 |
| knome | astraljava, can you elaborate :) | 17:47 |
| astraljava | knome: I did everything by the book, but still the save button remained disabled. | 17:48 |
| knome | astraljava, hmm. js disabled? | 17:48 |
| astraljava | Let me check. | 17:48 |
| astraljava | Voi lollero, I cannot even see how to do that in Chrome. :D | 17:49 |
| knome | lawl. | 17:49 |
| astraljava | Ahh... found it eventually. No, js is enabled. | 17:56 |
| knome | weird | 17:56 |
| ochosi | good, now i also have an excuse for the doodle :) | 18:59 |
| astraljava | *smirk* | 19:06 |
| ochosi | astraljava: btw, the catfish-project of bluesabre might also be of interest for u-studio | 19:07 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Ok, what's that about? I haven't been able to follow the discussion, really. | 19:19 |
| astraljava | Btw., knome, ochosi: I figured the issue out with doodle. It won't let you save in the Calendar view, but in the Table view. | 19:20 |
| ochosi | astraljava: catfish is the (rather old) tool for searching in xubuntu, i guess in u-studio as well | 19:20 |
| astraljava | Stupid design to even show the Save button in the Calendar view at all. | 19:20 |
| ochosi | astraljava: bluesabre is working on reviving and improving it | 19:20 |
| ochosi | yeah, +1 on doodle | 19:20 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Interesting. I haven't used it at all, and don't even wanna check now, cause I still haven't my desktop running (no tables for that), and I hate having to run it in Parallels. :) | 19:22 |
| ochosi | heh, doesn't sound very convenient | 19:22 |
| astraljava | Not really, no. The bedroom|study is quite small, and I'd need to put the table against the window, but there's the radiator in a very inconvenient height, so I need to get slightly taller legs for the tabletop. I can do that on the next pay day the earliest, though. :) | 19:24 |
| ochosi | heh | 19:37 |
| ochosi | i see | 19:37 |
| ochosi | night everyone! | 19:55 |
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