[01:21] knome: I'd like to set an address for the xubuntu-artwork team, do you mind if I set it to xubuntu-devel@l.u.c? [01:22] this should prevent e-mail from going to recipients when the team is subscribed to a bug [01:38] knome: I know this is a late request, but can we enable the monitor power management (monitor to standby instead of black but on) for 12.10? Or does it not work properly? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [05:50] mr_pouit: congrats on being the top uploader in quantal :) http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/ [05:51] micahg: I used to do debian package (well, still have one package in debian), are there bite-size ways I can help out? [05:51] disappointed I got out of it, mostly because my job went very sysadminy rather than sticking to the debian package stuff, mostly I'm just maintaining packages at work now [05:52] pleia2: sure, bug fixes, merges [05:53] * micahg isn't up on the list of what needs to be done, most is done in Debian [05:54] ok, I'll have a look around debian xfce [05:54] ah, svn :) [05:55] I'm sure Debian xfce would love help with bugs and what not (I'm sure we could use the help as well) [05:56] thanks [05:57] and if you need sponsoring in Ubuntu, I'm happy to help [05:58] much appreciated, I've never actually contributed directly to Ubuntu dev stuff [06:00] we've only got ~200 devs for all of Ubuntu, we definitely can use more [06:00] err..I should say 200 uploaders [06:00] * pleia2 nods [06:01] morning [06:01] I'm not quite up to speed with current tools, I was only really active in debian for a few years from 2006-2008ish [06:02] #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-packaging are great places to hang out to learn [06:03] and ask questions as well [06:07] I still lurk in #debian-mentors, should probably join -motu and -packaging to see how things are on this side of things [06:09] yeah, #debian-mentors is good too [06:45] strange bug, ristretto hangs when started from thunar with exo-open (could be a 4.10 ppa regression) [06:59] mr_pouit: just uploaded a mockup for the --minimal dialog to the spec [07:09] does anyone have a clue why my image-attachment in ubuntu-wiki is scaled up? [07:11] micahg, sounds fine [07:11] knome: no, haven't looked at the development pages yet, I'd be happy to have people applying for xubuntu-dev if it's desired [07:12] err...xubuntu packageset [07:12] heh, yeah :) [07:13] it would be great if we could have *some* kind of "mentoring" [07:13] i don't know what that would actually mean... but when people come asking how they can help us on the programming/packaging side, i don't know where exactly to point them [07:14] knome: we just had that discussion about an hour ago :) [07:15] micahg, mm-hmm; unfortunately, the website is not updated accordingly [07:15] micahg, i mean, what i'd actually like to do with the website/wiki is the same we've done for the rest of the areas of contribution: [07:16] micahg, put anything that end-users or people *starting to contribute* to website, and only those things that developers need to reference *when already contributing* to wiki [07:31] how can i add a TOC to a page in the ubuntu wiki? [07:32] <> ?? [07:32] or <> [07:33] wow, that looks very ugly [07:33] i thought it would be positioned to the right and thrown in a box automatically [07:33] but this plain list is really useless [08:08] hmm. i wonder if there was some ubuntu template then [08:08] that was moinmoin standard [08:09] yeah, i haven't found anything else than that either [08:39] ||<>|| [08:39] thanks [08:39] found one in older xubuntu patges [08:39] there really should be a template for this [08:40] Ok, I found it on the Studio meeting minutes page. [08:41] astraljava: btw, if you have input on the spec (might be interesting for -studio as well), let me know: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/MultipleMonitors [08:41] and feel free to pass it around [08:41] it's still unfinished though [08:44] ochosi: I'm positive it'll be interesting for many Studio users, as screen space is much needed in many functions. Thanks! I'll have a look, and mention it on #ubuntustudio-devel as well. [08:44] thanks [08:55] i'm updating that spec with more mockups on the go, will take a bit longer till it's finished === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:22] idea, which i'll also present in the reviewed strategy document: [10:22] 1) do a few contributions, and you'll be able to join a team (like art, or web) for 'probation' [10:23] 2) continue contributing and indicate motivation to contribute perpetually, and you'll be accepted to the team [10:39] bluesabre-laptop: the custom date dialog looks good! all in all, very nice improvements there! [10:40] bluesabre-laptop: humm, while the mime-list is kinda nice, it's also far too long... :) [10:43] ochosi: Yes, the mimetype list is insanely long. I could get rid of it, or try to split it into 2 comboboxes [10:43] maybe there's a better list we could use instead [10:43] i'll try to ask around [10:45] cool, thanks. The mimetypes also has a list of file extensions with it, which is just as long but possibly more friendly [10:45] right [10:45] what about grouping them? [10:45] i mean everything with application/... goes into "application" [10:46] (like the Group function in mysql) [10:46] cause if you only want a single extension you most likely know the name and then it's always quicker to enter that by hand [10:47] that's currently what the others do (documents = text, pictures = image, etc) [10:47] yeah [10:47] but there are more choices in the combobox, no? [10:47] (about applications: we could really limit them by extension) [10:48] agreed [10:48] btw, is the custom extension filter supposed to work alreadyß [10:48] it was working with my limited testing [10:48] right [10:48] cause it seems it can "get stuck" [10:49] after trying the filter (no results) and updating the searchterm nothing happens anymore [10:49] yikes [10:49] i get "IndexError: string index out of range" [10:49] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05222012-124944pm.php [10:50] I'll poke around with it a bit today and see what I can come up with [10:51] sure [10:51] I probably have my nested if statements in the wrong order [10:51] anyway, the other filters are working great [10:51] awesome [10:51] i'll give it more testing to be able to give you more feedback [10:51] sounds good. I was really pleased with myself when I got the date filters to work [10:52] :) [10:52] yeah, they'er pretty cool [10:52] and the menu button is also working/looking nicely now :) [10:53] ah [10:53] the custom date filter doesn't automatically update the search-results [10:53] i have to execute the search again [10:53] woops [10:53] easy fix (hopefully) [10:53] :) [10:54] but the filtering works for as much as i can tell [10:55] the dateformat is very american btw [10:55] (in the last-modified column) [10:55] supposed, it should format based on locale [10:55] yeah, that would be ideal [10:55] but atm it's the same in thunar, so... [10:56] it's something for final polishing [10:56] I'll set up a european vm for some extra testing, :D [10:56] hehe [10:56] i think you can install a different locale and switch [10:56] i think 2px padding on the left side of the statusbar would be good [10:56] otherwise the font looks glued to the edge [10:57] yeah, but my spanish has been slipping anyway, could use the practice [10:57] :) [10:58] in that case: venga! [10:58] (or if you learned your .es in .mx: ándale! arriba! ándale!) [10:59] haha [11:05] calendar filtering is fixed, padding is added. [11:05] bbl [11:08] cya [12:53] bluesabre: hmm, the custom extension entering doesn't seem to work for me [12:54] however the calendar works great now [12:54] (i just have to improve greybird's theming of that widget) [12:56] another common error-source: tick a few filters and then hide the advanced-sidebar [12:56] the filters will remain active and hinder all future searches until catfish gets restarted [12:56] my suggestion is to reset all filters when the advanced-sidebar is hidden/deactivated [12:57] bluesabre, bluesabre-laptop ^ :) [12:57] good idea [12:57] ah [12:57] wasn't sure which nick you're using [12:57] always a mystery [12:57] why are you using two at the same time btw? [12:57] laptop at home/vm at work [12:58] right, but the laptop seems to be always on, right? [12:58] our network is tied down, so I can't remote out [12:58] oh [12:58] i see [12:58] that makes sense then [12:59] I figured that it had to get confusing [12:59] :) [12:59] nah, it's fine [12:59] i'll just be twice as annoying pinging you twice ;) [13:01] i just discovered another bug [13:02] when you open and close the about-dialog a few times it'll break at some point [13:02] http://dpaste.com/751119/ [13:02] so something is fishy there [13:02] error-messages above ^ [13:04] I think I know how to fix that [13:04] okie [13:04] this is going to be one stable app [13:04] * ochosi is keeping his fingers crossed [13:04] ;) [13:05] a tooltip for the "search thoroughly" would also be good [13:06] btw, do you like that wording? (after all you're the native speaker) [13:06] Sounded fine to me. [13:06] cool [13:06] oh and the duplication i mentioned earlier with $searchterm in the statusbar [13:06] yeah [13:07] i think it's safe to drop that [13:07] I'm just going to remove it [13:07] because i just noticed the window-border also contains $searchterm :) [13:07] I was looking at the windows search (gasp) and they have it at the top, and only the number at the bottom, made sense [13:07] mhm [13:08] ochosi: what would you say about changing the scrollbars blue: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05222012-040521pm.php [13:08] too much blue? [13:08] yeah, also it's better to have it in the window-title, because then the window is more easily identified (alt-tab, panel,..) [13:09] laite: heh, it's pretty blue, yeah :) but it doesn't look bad [13:09] laite: what audio player is that? [13:09] bluesabre: gmusicbrowser =) [13:09] laite: to the least you can make the hover-color blue [13:09] bluesabre: this is basically where laite and me got to know each other :) [13:09] ochosi: yeah, that might work better [13:10] I like that interface arrangement [13:11] Thanks, it's been a work in progress for a long time, but pretty much steady for now :) [13:17] laite: any thoughts on the catfish-revamp? [13:18] ochosi: it looks to shape up pretty good :) [13:18] bluesabre: say, is it possible that suggestions stop working after one search? [13:18] for me, 'search thoroughly' seems a bit clumsy though, but I don't know what would be better [13:19] laite: if you have a better idea later feel free to let us know :) [13:19] ochosi: It's possible, I'm not sure why it would happen though [13:19] I mean, it sounds like the application does lousy job on the first run, and that is not a good image for end-user to have :) [13:20] laite: Quick Search vs Deep Search? [13:20] bluesabre: ok, i think i can narrow it down: if you search for the same searchterm again, it doesn't pop up suggestions anymore [13:20] bluesabre: much better [13:20] bluesabre: (i mean while the results are still there) [13:20] thats odd [13:21] ochosi: still works for me? [13:22] my bad, i used a searchterm that (for some reason) doesn't show me any suggestions the first time [13:22] laite: what do you think of executing an action (exo-open) on suggestions that are actually filenames instead of searching for a filename? [13:23] bluesabre: i think another good option would be "close catfish after executing action" (i.e. if you double-click to exo-open a file from the result-set it closes itself) [13:24] ochosi: exo-open on double clicking is must, but I'm not really sure what you mean by 'is a filename' [13:24] laite: i'm talking about the suggestions-popup [13:24] oh, right [13:24] ochosi: I'm not so sure about that. If somebody is looking for a specific image or something, they might want to open several [13:25] I think it sounds good [13:25] bluesabre: yeah, probably, that's why i'd make it optional [13:25] bluesabre: but it could get in the way if you always have to close the programme that actually just lost focus [13:25] true [13:26] would it be too much a hassle if there was somethign like ctrl+click to open but not closing catfish? [13:27] when 'close when double-clicking' is selected [13:30] laite: the question is less: is it too much of a hassle, it's more: is it discoverable enough? [13:30] we could just as well map it to middle-click [13:31] true, I actually thought of that from web browsers, but since my mouse's middleclick has been broken for a while I've gotten used to ctrl+click links =D [13:31] heh [13:31] you know, mice aren't that expensive anymore ;) [13:32] [13:32] But I really like my current one :P [13:33] micahg: easy with ~80 no-change rebuilds :P [15:24] bbl [17:47] knome: If you're wondering whether the poll gets relatively few voters, it could be due to not being able to save your submissions on doodle. [17:47] astraljava, huh? [17:47] astraljava, can you elaborate :) [17:48] knome: I did everything by the book, but still the save button remained disabled. [17:48] astraljava, hmm. js disabled? [17:48] Let me check. [17:49] Voi lollero, I cannot even see how to do that in Chrome. :D [17:49] lawl. [17:56] Ahh... found it eventually. No, js is enabled. [17:56] weird [18:59] good, now i also have an excuse for the doodle :) [19:06] *smirk* [19:07] astraljava: btw, the catfish-project of bluesabre might also be of interest for u-studio [19:19] ochosi: Ok, what's that about? I haven't been able to follow the discussion, really. [19:20] Btw., knome, ochosi: I figured the issue out with doodle. It won't let you save in the Calendar view, but in the Table view. [19:20] astraljava: catfish is the (rather old) tool for searching in xubuntu, i guess in u-studio as well [19:20] Stupid design to even show the Save button in the Calendar view at all. [19:20] astraljava: bluesabre is working on reviving and improving it [19:20] yeah, +1 on doodle [19:22] ochosi: Interesting. I haven't used it at all, and don't even wanna check now, cause I still haven't my desktop running (no tables for that), and I hate having to run it in Parallels. :) [19:22] heh, doesn't sound very convenient [19:24] Not really, no. The bedroom|study is quite small, and I'd need to put the table against the window, but there's the radiator in a very inconvenient height, so I need to get slightly taller legs for the tabletop. I can do that on the next pay day the earliest, though. :) [19:37] heh [19:37] i see [19:55] night everyone!