[00:03] <KombuchaKip> http://digitizor.com/2011/08/04/linus-torvalds-ditches-gnome-for-xfce/
[00:07] <mlsmith> KombuchaKip: The first comment on there made me chuckle
[00:08] <KombuchaKip> mlsmith: LOL ;)
[00:24] <stueng> hi, I had ubuntu 12.04, I apt-get install xubuntu-desktop but how do I make this my default session? instead of unity?
[00:24] <stueng> and I dont mean choose a session when I start, I want it default
[00:30] <stueng> surely this is something that is done quite commonly
[00:36] <sankey> stueng: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins
[00:37] <sankey> i think it's in your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[00:38] <sankey> but when i used ubuntu 11.10, i just clicked on one and it automatically defaulted to it
[00:38] <sankey> you shouldn't have to mess with config files
[00:38] <sankey> just pick one, and bam, it's the defaul
[00:44] <GridCube> what seems to be the problem?
[00:47] <sankey> GridCube: in ubuntu 12.04 and lightdm, cliking on a session automatically makes it default, right?
[00:48] <GridCube> it should, only if you dont use autologin
[00:49] <GridCube> if you use autologin you need to manually edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and change the default there
[00:51] <GridCube> like this line: user-session=xubuntu
[00:51] <sankey> GridCube: just to clarify, i was answering somebody else's problem :)
[00:51] <GridCube> :)
[00:51] <sankey> but thanks
[01:35] <KombuchaKip> Anyone know what happened to the thunar-shares-plugin? Was it abandoned?
[02:27] <GridCube> !info thunar-shares-plugin
[02:27] <GridCube> it seems like
[02:46] <Gnumatic> I have xfce4 on 12.04 (upgraded from 11.04-11.10) and it worked nicely, but now when I start a xfce session I have no window decorations and my keyboard isn't working, my guess is that compiz is starting as a windows manager instead of metacity or whatever and compiz is stomping on my interface. Since my keyboard isn't working I can't type "metacity --replace" and have to kill X.  What can I do to ensure that compiz isn't activated 
[02:47] <holstein> Gnumatic: remove it
[02:47] <Gnumatic> Won't that screw up Unity if I want to use it?
[02:48] <Gnumatic> I was kind of hoping for a less drastic solution.
[02:48] <holstein> Gnumatic: i would just run metacity --replace on startup
[02:49] <Gnumatic> I would, but my keyboard isn't working in xfce.  Is there a XFCE-specific startup script that I could add that to?
[02:54] <holstein> Gnumatic: i would get the keyboard working in XFCE first
[02:55] <Gnumatic> Maybe if I disable compositing. Unfortunately when I run xfce4-settings-manager from KDE the fields in Window Manager and Window Manager Tweaks are greyed out.
[02:55] <Gnumatic> But it seems like I can access the Application Autostart applet in Session & Startup.
[02:58] <Gnumatic> I disabled a couple of things, I'll try to log in to Xubuntu again, if it doesn't work I can try adding a "metacity --replace" script there. Is metacity the normal XFCE window manager?
[02:58] <Gnumatic> Or is it xfwm?
[03:01] <Gnumatic> I guess it is xfwm4.
[08:44] <Gagarin> Hi, i have a problem since 12.04 LTS: Everytime i go to standby there is ~ 50% chance that after wakeup there is a black "fog" on the screen
[08:44] <Gagarin> only the coursor is white and unaffected
[08:45] <Gagarin> it looks like that what comes on the desktop if a policy kit dialog pops up
[08:45] <Gagarin> but without the dialog
[08:46] <Gagarin> i can use everything, but it all very dark, and it does not go away until i relogin.
[09:20] <car^xubuntu> hi there
[09:22] <car^screen> guess would be better to join in a screen when trying to fix x-problems :)
[09:23] <car^screen> yesterday i accidentally ubgraded from 11.04 to 12.04 and now I am having troubles with xfce running via my usb-vga-adapter (need this to attach 2nd monitor to my laptop)
[09:24] <car^screen> full resolution works, desktop is showing and such, but I cannot move windows or maximize them... ich can resize them but they keep jumping to the upper left corner upon resize
[09:26] <car^screen> actually i _can_ move them but only in the space they are using when shown...
[09:26] <car^screen> damn, this is hard to describe :)
[09:27] <car^screen> additionally no menues are working... neither the "home/start"-menu nor any rightclick on the desktop
[09:31] <Fudge> oh thats bad
[09:31] <Fudge> perhaps purge your gconf and start over?
[09:31] <Fudge> does that work on xfce
[09:31] <car^screen> i just reinstalled the system with a fresh 12.04
[09:31] <car^screen> same problem :/
[09:32] <car^screen> there must be some difference between 11.04 and 12.04 that is causing this behaviour
[09:32] <car^screen> kde is able to handle windows on that display
[09:33] <car^screen> but i do not like kde (still on core2duo, not enough for kde)
[09:35] <Fudge> yeah lag sux
[09:36] <car^screen> since kde is able to handle windows there i don't think it is a problem with the usb-vga-adapter
[09:36] <car^screen> or they do have some fancy workarounds hacked in :)
[09:37] <laite> car^screen: you could perhaps ask from #xfce, might be better place to get answers for that
[09:37] <car^screen> might be, i will give it a try
[09:43] <Jonne_> has anyone here upgraded to xfce 4.10 using the ppa yet?
[09:43] <Jonne_> any issues?
[09:43] <Sysi> no issues for me
[09:43] <Jonne_> does the indicator applet still work?
[09:44] <Jonne_> i use a bunch of gnome/ubuntu stuff in the panel
[09:44] <Jonne_> meh, i'll just go for it
[09:45] <Marzata> no issues with 4.10 but on VM only
[09:45] <Marzata> will not do that on production machines
[09:57] <knome> Jonne_, please note that the ppa is not officially supported
[09:58] <Jonne_> i know
[09:58] <Jonne_> half the stuff on this box is not supported
[09:58] <knome> yup, just mentioning :)
[10:11] <altairbueno> hola
[10:12] <knome> hello
[10:16] <Guest93877> Hola.
[10:16] <Guest93877> ¿Hello?
[10:18] <knome> hello
[10:22] <astraljava> Hi.
[10:23] <ochosi> ahoi
[10:38] <fenoamby> bonjour, hello
[10:39] <gordonjcp> fenoamby: hi
[10:39] <fenoamby> gordonjcp > french ou english ?
[11:35] <gordonjcp> fenoamby: non, je n'suis pas anglais, je suis ecossais
[11:36] <gordonjcp> fenoamby: mais je parle un petit petit peu francais ;-)
[11:43] <fenoamby> gordonjcp   i want to install a ?buntu version (X for a light version with a XP 2200+ and 512 RAM) but the installation block. I try Knoppix and there is no problem
[11:45] <astraljava> fenoamby: You could try the alternate installer, that should be able to cope with those resources.
[11:46] <fenoamby> i try the alternate version on a USB Key, but the installation try to mount the CD/DVD and it stop
[11:47] <fenoamby> Sorry for my english (i m french)...
[11:51] <olbi> I wonder, why Xubuntu LiveCD on USB doubled the repositories, I have cdrom and ethernet :) it is normal?
[11:55] <astraljava> fenoamby: How did you create the USB stick?
[11:56] <astraljava> olbi: You should just comment out the cdrom, as that's obviously going to be outdated pretty quickly.
[11:56] <fenoamby> i DL the xubuntu alternate iso and i use Unetbootwin
[11:56] <fenoamby> astraljava>  i DL the xubuntu alternate iso and i use Unetbootwin
[11:59] <gordonjcp> fenoamby: what does it get stuck on?
[12:00] <gordonjcp> fenoamby: your English is way better than my French ;-)
[12:02] <fenoamby> gordonjcp > the installer try to find the CD/DVD and i block
[12:03] <olbi> I did it in USC or edit sources.list :P But didn't know about this error :P
[12:04] <olbi> I use UNetBootIn on Ubuntu or Universal USB Installer on Windows 7
[12:07] <astraljava> fenoamby: Hmm... that's strange, I'm gonna have to give it a go when I get home. Can't really help until that, sorry.
[12:35] <xubuntu017_> anyone here?
[12:35] <furycd001> Anyone know the best way to create window boarders in xfce :?
[13:03] <fenoamby> i try again an install but the installer want to mount the DVD Drive and the installation Stop
[14:25] <valdur55> Installing xubuntu 12.04. Looks nice
[14:31] <ochosi> valdur55: good to hear
[14:34] <valdur55> Why is risetto and gthumb default installed?
[14:34] <valdur55> are *
[14:36] <knome> gthumb can import photos from cameras, ristretto is lighter to quickly look at images
[14:40] <Yoshimi-pink> my panels are suppose to be clear but for some reason they are grey and i cant find the appearance settings to make them invisible again
[14:42] <ystesta> hey fellas!
[14:42] <valdur55> Ok. Do i have double envice installed?
[14:43] <knome> ystesta, enable display compositing
[14:43] <ochosi> Yoshimi-pink: maybe you switched off compositing?
[14:43] <knome> Yoshimi-pink, ^
[14:43] <valdur55> I see it on Office and Graphics
[14:43] <ystesta> I managed to get xubuntu working after screwing it up badly, but now I decided to swing by to see if you have any suggestions for things I should download
[14:43] <Yoshimi-pink> how could i find out if i did?
[14:43] <knome> valdur55, no, it's possible apps are visible oin multiple menus
[14:43] <ystesta> :x like theme packs and stuff
[14:45] <Yoshimi-pink> oh sweet
[14:45] <Yoshimi-pink> thanks guise
[14:46] <knome> ystesta, if you want to change the appearance, see xfce-look.org (for xfwm and gtk themes) and gnome-look.org (for gtk themes) - however, please note that many gtk themes aren't supporting gtk3 well yet
[14:47] <ystesta> knome, thanks!
[14:47] <ystesta> sure beats searching for packs in the console
[14:48] <ystesta> o_o however I have just stumbled onto a worrying complication
[14:48] <ystesta> can't log in as root
[14:48] <knome> you shouldn't log in as root.
[14:48] <mips1911> it's disabled by default, you can enable it it by setting a password for the account
[14:49] <ystesta> I thought I had one
[14:49] <knome> !root | ystesta, mips1911
[14:49] <mips1911> that's a bit misleading
[14:49] <knome> mips1911, that's to say, enabling root is the least encouraged thing to do.
[14:50] <mips1911> freedom of choice.
[14:50] <ystesta> thanks for the tip
[14:50] <knome> ystesta, you shouldn't, not with a default install. use sudo
[14:50] <knome> mips1911, of course, but if you have enabled root, you "void your warranty"
[14:50] <mips1911> linux comes without any warranties
[14:50] <mips1911> and you use at your own risk
[14:51] <knome> mips1911, xubuntu has community suppot - but if you enable root and anything bad comes out of it, you're out of luck - it is not supported on xubuntu
[14:51] <ystesta> knome, thanks for the tip!
[14:51] <knome> ystesta, no problem :)
[14:51] <mips1911> knome, I know. Like I said use at your own risk.
[14:52] <ystesta> for some reason this whole time I felt I had to log in as root to do stuff in the console
[14:52] <ystesta> my ignorance of linux is vast and unprecedented :D
[14:52] <knome> mips1911, well, yes, after i told you it's not supported on xubuntu. this is not an argument - please don't tell people to enable root
[14:53] <mips1911> ystesta, in that case you should not use it.
[14:53] <knome> ystesta, fortunately there is all kind of tutorials and support channels :)
[14:54] <mips1911> knome, I did not tell anyone to use root. I just said it's disabled and it can be enabled by setting it's password.
[14:54] <knome> ystesta, a good rule of thumb is that if you don't know what you are doing, don't :)
[14:54] <mips1911> there is nothing factually incorrect or encouraging in what I said.
[14:54] <ystesta> knome, I'll take advantage of that when I break everything again
[14:54] <knome> mips1911, okay, to be nitpicky then, please don't do that again then.
[14:55] <valdur55> You can use sudo -s for root shell
[14:55] <knome> usa_today, hello?
[14:55] <mips1911> knome, ok in future I will tell people to use google. I'm not gonna lie to them.
[14:56] <knome> mips1911, no, don't tell people to "use google". you can use the !root factoid, which explains why enabling root account is not suggested
[14:56] <valdur55> !root
[14:57] <mips1911> knome, that factoid is false to a degree. Anybody that googles this out of their own free will will get a gazillion hits on how to do it.
[14:57] <knome> valdur55, yeah, "sudo -s" is muuuuch better :)
[14:57] <gordonjcp> root with a valid login is obsolete
[14:58] <gordonjcp> basically there should be a script that zeroes out all attached disks if it detects a valid root password has been set
[14:58] <knome> mips1911, sure. but that factoid tells they are using it at their own risk and that it is not encouraged - with explanations - which many of the sites from google do not do
[14:58] <mips1911> knome, if you look at the link in the factoid it will even tell you how to enable root and this is a official ubuntu site.
[14:58] <gordonjcp> "ok, there's a valid root password! rm -rf / time!"
[14:58] <gordonjcp> root passwords made sense 30 years ago, not now
[14:59] <knome> mips1911, yes, but it is after long explanations and with caution.
[14:59] <knome> mips1911, as i said, this is not an argument. please don't tell people they can enable root account, or point them to google. you can use the !root factoid, if necessary.
[15:00] <mips1911> knome, ok I will tell them to look at the root factoid which will tell them how to do it anyway. Same thing at the end of the day.
[15:01] <knome> mips1911, no, it's not. most people do not want to enable root, they just think they need to because some tutorial or user told them to
[15:01] <knome> mips1911, or because they thought there was, or should have been, a root account
[15:02] <ystesta> got a really general question for you
[15:02] <ystesta> what is GTK
[15:02] <mips1911> knome, I will just point to !root factoid in future and leave them be.
[15:02] <mips1911> gnome toolkit I think
[15:02] <knome> mips1911, thanks
[15:02] <knome> yes, that's it
[15:02] <ystesta> is it an alternate theming thing or is it something that runs alongside the default theming thing
[15:02] <knome> actually, gimp toolkit ;)
[15:02] <ystesta> I'm an expert in all teminology
[15:03] <mips1911> knome, yes gimp
[15:03] <knome> ystesta, it is a toolkit that defines how different widgets are drawn
[15:03] <knome> ystesta, you need a theme to change the default appearance
[15:04] <knome> ystesta, themes basically tell GTK that "you need to draw the button like this" etc.
[15:04] <ystesta> I managed to nab a couple and I'm trying to figure out where to put them
[15:04] <ystesta> oh
[15:04] <ystesta> so GTK manages all the themes?
[15:04] <knome> well, gtk is linked only with gtk themes.
[15:05] <ystesta> what's the other sort of themes?
[15:05] <ystesta> xfwm or something?
[15:05] <knome> xfwm themes, which control the window borders
[15:05] <ystesta> hm
[15:05] <ystesta> but gtk, that controls more than window borders
[15:05] <ystesta> how do I know which ones I'm choosin'?
[15:06] <knome> the buttons, text areas and anything else inside the windows, and usually panel appearance too
[15:06] <knome> ystesta, xfce-look.org should tell you whether the theme is gtk or xfwm
[15:06] <ystesta> oh it does, but I don't know where to put them
[15:06] <ystesta> where in the settings menu do I find the gtk settings and the xfwm settings
[15:07] <knome> under /home/yourusername/.themes/
[15:07] <ystesta> or is it just appearance and window manager, respectively
[15:07] <knome> yep
[15:08] <ystesta> and if there isn't a .themes here, I just make one?
[15:08] <knome> yep
[15:08] <ystesta> (looking at all the hidden folders)
[15:08] <ystesta> ah okay
[15:10] <ystesta> yeah that didn't work
[15:11] <ystesta> do I save it as .tar.bz in there
[15:11] <knome> extract it
[15:13] <ystesta> fantastic!
[15:13] <ystesta> now, is it the same for mice?
[15:13] <ystesta> and anything goes in .themes, gtk or xfwm?
[15:15] <knome> ystesta, both gtk and xfwm go to ~/.themes
[15:15] <knome> ystesta, i think cursor themes too
[15:16] <ystesta> cool
[15:18] <ystesta> what if they don't show up?
[15:19] <ystesta> of all the ones I put in there, only one came around
[15:30] <ystesta> haha figured it out
[15:35] <xubuntu052> Hello, can someone help me?
[15:36] <xubuntu052> I accidently removede the volume control from the panel.. I can finf pulse audio, but not the simples volume control
[15:37] <McGuyver> xubuntu052: i think what you want to add back in is "indicator plugin"
[15:38] <xubuntu052> Thasnks! I'll give it a shot.
[15:48] <ystesta> quick question
[15:48] <ystesta> where do new fonts go?
[15:49] <fenoamby> i want to install Xubuntu but the installer crash with a Desktop version or an alternate
[15:51] <fenoamby> it's an USB dongle. with the alternate, the installer want to mount the DVD/CD drive and stop. i add "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" in the command before installing but it try to mount it.
[16:08] <xubuntutest> Hi, I'm testing the latest Xubuntu and so far I'm pleased with it, so I want to install it on my hard drive.
[16:09] <xubuntutest> Can this be done from an usb device?
[16:09] <xubuntutest> (I don't have a DVD drive on the target computer)
[16:09] <pleia2> xubuntutest: yep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[16:10] <pleia2> pretty common method these days, a lot of systems don't have optical drives
[16:10] <xubuntutest> This is a desktop from 2005-ish, but the DVD-drive is broken.
[16:10] <xubuntutest> Thanks for the link.
[16:11] <xubuntutest> Another question would be: for some reason Abiword refuses to use the Clearlooks or any gtk2-based theme. Is this normal?
[16:11] <xubuntutest> It looks fine with the Bluebird theme though.
[16:16] <xubuntutest> Also, to whoever is responsible for the font quality in xubuntu: thank you. This may be the first time I actually like fonts in a linux distribution.
[16:21] <ystesta> hey fellas, I have another question
[16:21] <ystesta> I tried to modify a theme but after I did that it refused to use the GTK colors
[16:22] <ystesta> I basically altered the brightness of pixels
[16:22] <ystesta> did I just commit a travesty?
[16:23] <laite> ystesta: are you talking about modifying window borders/titlebar?
[16:23] <laite> or gtk2/gtk3-theming
[16:28] <ystesta> laite, modifying one of the window managers
[16:29] <ystesta> I suppose that's the correct way to say it?
[16:29] <laite> ystesta: gtk-colors are taken by .xpm-files, see http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/xfwm4_theme#from_wikipedia_the_free_encyclopedia
[16:29] <ystesta> I might just bite the bullet and make all my stuff
[16:29] <ystesta> :| I modified the .xpm files
[16:29] <ystesta> shooot
[16:30] <ystesta> laite, so why would modifying one part of an xpm file change the whole deal?
[16:30] <laite> you'll just have to take note of colors and edit .xpm manually by text editor to get them link 'real color' and wanted 'gtk color'
[16:31] <ystesta> I did that though
[16:31] <laite> ystesta: when .xpm are saved by image handling program, like GIMP, it loses gtk links (I think)
[16:31] <ystesta> oh
[16:31] <laite> so they have to be manually rewritten
[16:31] <ystesta> :| how do I fix that
[16:32] <laite> you could load original images, take note of gtk-colors from them and use them after you modify pictures
[16:32] <laite> also, that xfce4 wiki page I linked might be useful to read as a whole
[16:33] <laite> you can e.g. use one .xpm and one .png to form a single 'image' to window border
[16:35] <ystesta> hmm
[16:36] <ystesta> wow I had it very wrong
[16:36] <ystesta> is it true that a theme basically has a handful of colors working for it?
[16:38] <ystesta> for gtk that is
[16:58] <ystesta> well I helped it out a little
[16:58] <ystesta> I suppose the only way to make it satisfying is to change everything and learn how it all works
[18:40] <recon69_lap> hi, anyone know how to get the brightness app remember it's setting between boots?
[18:51] <milen8204> any one know how to make script for desktop changing?
[18:59] <xuserr> hi
[18:59] <xuserr> i cant install xfce 4.10
[19:00] <xuserr> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[19:00] <xuserr> my internet connnection is working
[19:00] <rbrt> did you check your sources.list file
[19:02] <xuserr> ???
[19:02] <xuserr> how can i do this
[19:03] <xuserr> ok i resolved my problem
[19:04] <rbrt> ok
[19:04] <xuserr> :)
[19:05] <rbrt> what was the problem, typo?
[19:19] <shpank> g'day
[19:19] <rbrt> g'day
[19:20] <shpank> could anyone be so kind to tell me why the audio volume doesn't change when i try to set it via keyboard? (Fn + F8/F9)
[19:20] <shpank> i use xubuntu 12.04 btw
[19:21] <baru_> hello guys... a question for you...
[19:21] <rbrt> hmm maybe your keyboard shortcuts aren't working right?
[19:22] <xubuntu855> Hi, I am using xubuntu net book as a printer server, since i dont need the whole desktop to load up ( i do need it to connect to wireless and see printer is plugged in via usb and execute one small script ), is there any way to reduce the boot time?
[19:26] <rbrt> shpank I think u can make a keyboard shortcut for that
[19:28] <xuserr> i installed xfce 4.10 and it works great
[19:28] <rbrt> shpank, or if the Fn key doesnt work with other stuff perhaps that is not functioning right
[19:28] <rbrt> xuserr, what was the problem before
[19:28] <shpank> rbrt: the shortcut works. the applet thingy shows up properly
[19:28] <shpank> some value gets changed
[19:28] <shpank> but not the right one
[19:28] <recon69_lap> shpank: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137421/volume-keys-working-in-unity-but-not-xfce4
[19:29] <xuserr> rbrt: no problem before
[19:29] <shpank> and i can't find out which one it's trying to change
[19:29] <xuserr> but i want to try xfce 4.10
[19:29] <rbrt> xuserr, oh ok
[19:30] <milen8204> say some way to make wallpaper changer
[19:31] <rbrt> shpank, maybe try making a different shortcut to see if it works?
[19:32] <shpank> where do i have to make that shortcut?
[19:33] <recon69_lap> milen8204: right click desktop, select desktop setting, hit the + and pick your wallpaper
[19:34] <milen8204> i want automatically change trough a period of time
[19:36] <rbrt> milen8204, https://launchpad.net/desktopnova
[19:36] <rbrt> never used it though
[19:37] <milen8204> rbrt, thanks
[19:37] <rbrt> you welcome
[19:38] <milen8204> rbrt, I tried that application but it does not work for me
[19:38] <rbrt> milen8204, ok maybe this iwll work for you http://sites.google.com/site/theitnotes/desktop/how-to-configure-the-wallpaper-to-periodically-rotate-in-xubuntu
[19:39] <Plamen> Hi there
[19:39] <rbrt> hi
[19:39] <Plamen> can anyone help me with a sh script that I want to run from desktop launcher in xubuntu x64 system??
[19:40] <milen8204> rbrt, I cant understand that :D
[19:40] <Plamen> :)
[19:40] <Plamen> ok, i will explane in short
[19:40] <rbrt> milen8204, yeah thats why i showed you the program
[19:41] <Plamen> I have WebStorm IDE  and it starts from a sh script
[19:41] <Plamen> I want to make a desktop launcher and start it from there
[19:41] <milen8204> rbrt, ok thanks
[19:41] <Plamen> but the script doesn't start at all from launcher
[19:42] <Plamen> it start if I write in console the exactly same command
[19:42] <shpank> rbrt: thanks for the help. after setting the shortcut again and logging out it works
[19:43] <rbrt> shpank, oh good!...it's hard to determine where to start with that because sometimes those function keys are all messed up and you need a driver
[19:43] <rbrt> I wasn't sure how much of an issue you were having lol
[19:43] <xubuntu155> hello!
[19:43] <rbrt> hi!
[19:44] <rbrt> milen8204, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1272105
[19:44] <xubuntu155> can i ask a question regarding shortcut keys in xubuntu
[19:44] <xubuntu155> ?
[19:44] <rbrt> milen8204,  you can try ot read through that if you like,, it's just a script
[19:44] <rbrt> xubuntu155,  I think so?
[19:45] <milen8204> rbrt, ok I will try that thanks a lot
[19:45] <rbrt> :)
[19:45] <xubuntu155> i ave a problem: fn + key combination works perfectly
[19:45] <xubuntu155> but i would like to use single key to control the volume
[19:46] <xubuntu155> in ubuntu its possible but in xubuntu i cant do it
[19:47] <xubuntu155> anyone?
[19:48] <rbrt> you want to use one key press?
[19:48] <xubuntu155> yes!
[19:48] <rbrt> like say letter 'v' ?
[19:48] <rbrt> im confused with the question
[19:48] <xubuntu155> well instead of using fn+f4 lets say
[19:49] <xubuntu155> to reduce the volume
[19:49] <xubuntu155> i would like to use only f6
[19:51] <recon69_lap> xubuntu155: I'm sure there is a way, have you tried adding a new short-cut key?
[19:52] <xubuntu155> well i am not an expert with linux so i am not sure how to do that
[19:52] <xubuntu155> actually i am novice
[19:53] <xubuntu155> i did try to read around but i found nothing
[19:53] <xubuntu155> no one seems to want what i'd like
[19:54] <xubuntu155> thats how i ended up on this chat
[19:54] <xubuntu155> i am kind of desperate
[19:56] <recon69_lap> xubuntu155:  http://wiki.xfce.org/faq and search for "Is it possible to use Media keys in the Shortcut Editor?" might give you some clues
[19:57] <xubuntu155> i'll try! thanks!
[19:58] <rbrt> xubuntu155, i know you can use amixer to set volume
[19:59] <recon69_lap> the m in master has to be capitalized too "amixer set Master 5%+"
[19:59] <rbrt> xubuntu155, like amixer set Master 5%+
[19:59] <rbrt> oh recon has it
[19:59] <rbrt> lol
[20:00] <rbrt> xubuntu155, so go to Settings Manager-> Keyboard->Application Shortcuts
[20:01] <rbrt> xubuntu155, then click Add button
[20:01] <xubuntu155> yes
[20:01] <rbrt> xubuntu155,  ok you ahve it?
[20:02] <rbrt> xubuntu155, amixer set Master 5%- for decrease and just pick 2 keys
[20:03] <xubuntu155> mhmm
[20:03] <xubuntu155> let me try
[20:05] <xubuntu155> and for the mute - ?unmute
[20:05] <recon69_lap> works a here :) plus/minus change volume, but cant use type them :)
[20:06] <rbrt> amixer set Master toggle
[20:06] <rbrt> thats for xubuntu155
[20:07] <xubuntu155> thank you..i sopouse i i should log aout
[20:07] <rbrt> I don't think you have to
[20:07] <rbrt> lol
[20:08] <rbrt> oops "lol" not for here
[20:08] <xubuntu155> i guess than i does not work
[20:08] <rbrt> what version are you on
[20:09] <xubuntu155> 12.04
[20:09] <xubuntu155> wait
[20:09] <xubuntu155> it works
[20:09] <rbrt> yeah it should
[20:10] <xubuntu155> GREAT!!
[20:10] <xubuntu155> :)
[20:10] <rbrt> :)
[20:10] <xubuntu155> sooo glad...thank you a loot
[20:10] <xubuntu155> :)
[20:10] <rbrt> no problem
[20:11] <recon69_lap> anyone know how to change the brightness permanently ?
[20:11] <cloir> Hi. How can I change the... heh. brightness.
[20:11] <cloir> Actually, the question is: how can I change the brightness without installing the nvidia driver (or other non-free stuff).
[20:12] <recon69_lap> cloir: the brightness applet not working for you?
[20:12] <cloir> Brightness applet? what brightness applet?
[20:12] <rbrt> recon69_lap, http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=362
[20:12] <cloir> Note that this is not a laptop.
[20:14] <cloir> It can't find a brightness applet when trying to add new items to the panel. Is it on the repositories?
[20:17] <recon69_lap> cloir: it's part of xfce4-power-manager , but might not work on a CRT monitor
[20:17] <cloir> recon69_lap: yep, installed it and although it is a LCD it says: 'no device found'.
[20:17] <cloir> So I need either another way to change the brighness or a monitor that isn't broken. :P
[20:18] <recon69_lap> cloir: is there a knob :)
[20:18] <cloir> recon69_lap: on the monitor itself?
[20:19] <recon69_lap> I know, so old fashioned :)
[20:19] <rbrt> ahah
[20:20] <cloir> It has a brightness button, but it's been broken for about 2 years.
[20:20] <rbrt> is this a monitor or laptop?
[20:20] <recon69_lap> cloir: have you installed the xfce4-power-manager-plugins and added the brightness applet to a panel?
[20:21] <cloir> recon69_lap: yes, "no device found".
[20:21] <cloir> rbrt: a normal lcd monitor on a desktop computer, no laptop here.
[20:21] <rbrt> oh ok
[20:21] <cloir> I know I can fix it installing the Nvidia driver.
[20:22] <cloir> But I would prefer not to use non-free software, since I won't be gaming anyway.
[20:22] <rbrt> well...
[20:22] <rbrt> lol
[20:22] <recon69_lap> right, back to my issue :)
[20:23] <recon69_lap> cloir: try "xgamma -gamma 0.9"
[20:26] <cloir> Let's try.
[20:27] <rbrt> if you say the driver solves the problem I'mthinking maybe there isn't a way aroudn it?
[20:27] <cloir> It does not fix it (probably because it changes gamma but not brightness) but it definitely helps.
[20:28] <cloir> So it's a good workaround for the time being, thanks recon69_lap.
[20:29] <recon69_lap> god, I forget the simplest stuff, how to get to etc/rc.local
[20:31] <rbrt> cloir, http://linux.die.net/man/1/xbacklight
[20:31] <rbrt> longshot
[20:31] <rbrt> lol
[20:32] <cloir> rbrt: thanks!
[20:32] <rbrt> we've moved beyond xubuntu at this point lol
[21:21] <cloir> So... I've made a new partition, using mkfs.ext4 on /dev/sda3, and it automatically shows up on my Desktop. However, only root can write to it, how do I give all users permissions to read/write to this new partition?
[21:25] <Unit193> If it's already got a entry in !fstab, just edit that.
[21:29] <rbrt> cloir, is itm ounted?
[21:29] <rbrt> mounted
[21:31] <rbrt> cloir_, if it's mounted you can do something like "sudo chown username:username /media/partitionname"
[21:31] <rbrt> "/media/paritionname " replaced with name of your partition
[21:32] <rbrt> sudo chown -R  ...sorry
[21:34] <beanpole> elooooooo
[21:34] <GridCube> !hi | beanpole
[21:35] <rbrt> hi beanpole
[21:35] <beanpole> thank u all
[21:36] <beanpole> zubuntu is better than ubuntu
[21:36] <beanpole> xfce ftw
[21:37] <cloir_> rbrt: I'm looking at 'mtab'. I would like to give permissions for that partition to ALL users not a particular one.
[21:41] <rbrt> cloir assign the users to a group then
[21:41] <rbrt> then use the gid
[21:42] <cloir_> That sounds good, I'll try.
[21:42] <cloir_> Thanks. :)
[21:42] <rbrt> :)
[21:58] <nuaimat> hello all, i have ubuntu setup, it's connected to LAN but not to internet, other devices connected to the same LAN can access inet, can anyone help please ?
[22:03] <GridCube> nuaimat, press alt-f2 and write: nm-connection-editor
[22:04] <nuaimat> GridCube: i am sshing to the server, i can't open display there
[22:04] <nuaimat> GridCube: is there any command line alternative for this ?
[22:04] <GridCube> let me see
[22:05] <GridCube> nm-tool
[22:05] <GridCube> should tell you what device is connected
[22:07] <nuaimat> GridCube: http://pastebin.com/TLGjpgHd
[22:09] <GridCube> you are not getting an ip
[22:10] <nuaimat> GridCube: http://pastebin.com/pmw8T0Na
[22:10] <nuaimat> GridCube:  that's the output of my ifconfig
[22:12] <GridCube> i see
[22:13] <GridCube> yes again you have no ip given by your router
[22:14] <nuaimat> GridCube: how can you say this ? inet addr:192.168.1.10
[22:14] <GridCube> oh yes
[22:14] <GridCube> i didnt see that im distracted sorry
[22:15] <nuaimat> GridCube: relax bro, no worries
[22:15] <GridCube> wait please
[22:19] <GridCube> nuaimat, you can use nmcli
[22:20] <GridCube> man nmcli to see how to use, i've never did that tho
[22:47] <xubuntu100> hello
[23:19] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[23:19] <mattwj2002> is xubuntu any good?
[23:19] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:20] <Unit193> Asking in the Xubuntu channel, most of us are going to say "yes, it is."
[23:20] <mattwj2002> lol
[23:20] <mattwj2002> yeah I know :P
[23:21] <Unit193> "Yes, it's awesome!"
[23:21] <mattwj2002> I used lubuntu it was pretty good but it was missing a lot of features I missed in ubuntu
[23:21] <mattwj2002> is xubuntu better in that regard?
[23:23] <Unit193> It's not quite as lightweight, but what were you missing?
[23:23] <mattwj2002> like the settings
[23:23] <mattwj2002> bluetooth support
[23:24] <Unit193> Should have it out of the box, has a "settings manager" too.
[23:24] <Unit193> Should, as in I don't have bluetooth.
[23:26] <mattwj2002> okay
[23:26] <mattwj2002> maybe I'll give it a try
[23:26] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:26] <Unit193> You can always check the Live Env.
[23:26] <mattwj2002> I really hate Unity
[23:26] <mattwj2002> :P
[23:36] <mattwj2002> anyone buy Facebook stock?
[23:36] <mattwj2002> :P
[23:37] <mattwj2002> that stock is doing well ;)
[23:56] <mekazu> Hi I'm on 12.04 with the latest updates. When I booted up this morning none of my windows contain borders or title bars, there are other problems too, Alt-Tab doesn't switch between windows anymore, Settings > Window manager and Settings > Window Manager Tweaks don't load (grey screen only), and I can't bring windows into the foreground. It makes it a bit difficult to get things done
[23:56] <mattwj2002> wow
[23:57] <mattwj2002> xubuntu has a pretty startup screen
[23:59] <mekazu> Also, none of the windows appear in the application panel