| apachelogger | hm | 00:31 |
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| apachelogger | kubotu: order coffee | 00:32 |
| * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger. | 00:32 | |
| JontheEchidna | ~karma | 00:33 |
| kubotu | karma for JontheEchidna: 14 | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | : D | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | cheat | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | ~karma | 00:33 |
| kubotu | karma for apachelogger: 14 | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | now that is wrong | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | there you have it, I'll stop developing as I am under appreciated | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | didn't I want to do that at some point already? | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | like 2 years ago | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | back to the roots I always say | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | what I need is a new kind of minion | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | also what kde needs is project timelord^2 | 00:35 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: sure, will make folks (or one folk) see we do pay attention | 00:40 |
| claydoh | re color schemes | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | kthx | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: what about talk-to-dev days? | 00:40 |
| claydoh | thank you to apachelogger and JontheEchidna for the great work! | 00:41 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: a really really good idea imo, jut be prepared for some tough-ish questions ;) | 00:42 |
| apachelogger | better to have tough questions answered than people ranting :P | 00:43 |
| claydoh | but some insight into how things are done, the restrictions and limitations there are, as well as the places we can go | 00:43 |
| claydoh | oh, they will rant anyway, haven't you figure that out yet :p | 00:43 |
| apachelogger | a decent person will not after having another person having spent their time talking to them :P | 00:45 |
| claydoh | the lack of firefox kde integration seems to be the rant or issue du jour | 00:45 |
| apachelogger | that is, I envision more direct interaction, not those regular people come to channel and loads of devs flood them with info | 00:45 |
| apachelogger | and perhaps at the same time start musing and discussing the things among each other | 00:45 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: actually the only post I saw regarding that was correctly pointing out that while sad it is not really anyone's fault but mozillas ;) | 00:46 |
| apachelogger | was on some danish or french forum | 00:46 |
| claydoh | that would be ideal | 00:47 |
| apachelogger | we should just convert the firefox installer to a chromium installer | 00:47 |
| apachelogger | then we can go ... "use sensible software" :P | 00:47 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: but some minor gnashing of teeth at the change | 00:47 |
| claydoh | regular people don't like change lol | 00:48 |
| apachelogger | well, they can still use firefox and if they have it installed it will not affect them | 00:48 |
| apachelogger | but we'd make a point | 00:48 |
| apachelogger | "if you screw our users, we do not care for your software" | 00:48 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: agreed | 00:49 |
| claydoh | hear some ideas from them, may be good ones that turn up | 00:49 |
| claydoh | and perhaps recruit more minions in the docs arena | 00:50 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 00:50 |
| claydoh | starbuck posted in kfn suggesting a kububtu/kde news type of site | 00:50 |
| apachelogger | though my primary incentive is stimulate direct communication with devs | 00:50 |
| claydoh | looking for names | 00:50 |
| claydoh | I think that is also a good idea | 00:51 |
| claydoh | kde/kubuntu news, how-to's interviews with the team | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: that requires people doing it ^^ | 00:51 |
| claydoh | I could handle some of that, starbuck was looking for url ideas for it | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | I mean, running the site | 00:55 |
| claydoh | said they have a similar magazine site for netrunner | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but you need a community to provide content | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | if you have to put 5 emloyees behind it to make it work it does not make sense IMHO | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | stuff like that should be self-sustaining in the long run | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | which is tricky because writing (good) articles is a tedious process and you always need to provide new content, otherwise no one will visit the site on a regular basis causing demotivation with the contributors | 00:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did I mention that msc needs to become hotter? | 01:01 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: look at omgbuntu......... | 01:01 |
| claydoh | said with tongue firmly planted in cheek | 01:02 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: don't they make monies with it? | 01:03 |
| claydoh | no idea | 01:04 |
| apachelogger | well they do have a company | 01:04 |
| apachelogger | so I'd assume their intention is to make monies | 01:04 |
| claydoh | we could do as well or better than http://netrunner-mag.com | 01:08 |
| claydoh | I think we have people in the community that would give more than just one writer | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | yes | 01:10 |
| apachelogger | BUT having one person spend their work time on writing stuff makes a solid base | 01:10 |
| claydoh | yes | 01:10 |
| apachelogger | i.e. it comensates for the mandatory flux of community contributions (RL getting in the way and what not) | 01:11 |
| claydoh | bbl, having tea, a rather late tea | 01:11 |
| claydoh | omg | 01:11 |
| apachelogger | that said, most of the articles are agnostic enough to be shared ... so that is an option one would want to look into ;) | 01:11 |
| claydoh | She already has me speaking non-american English! lol | 01:11 |
| apachelogger | lol | 01:12 |
| claydoh | Darned red headed Aussie woman is going to assimilate me back into the British empire weee! | 01:14 |
| claydoh | ok not "back" | 01:14 |
| apachelogger | http://theworldofm.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/queens-letter/ ? :P | 01:17 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: that's what Muon Discover is for | 01:23 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: naw, just an Australian girlfriend | 01:23 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yes, but it fails to integrate :P | 01:24 |
| JontheEchidna | for now :P | 01:24 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: :) | 01:24 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: excuses :P | 01:24 |
| * apachelogger wants awesome - now! | 01:26 | |
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| JontheEchidna | lol | 01:27 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, we can make our own "Kubuntu featured apps" slideshow for muon discover if we can get a server to serve up something like this: http://jacknjoe.net/api/packages/featured | 01:28 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that is handy | 01:29 |
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| apachelogger | stupid splitting | 01:30 |
| JontheEchidna | bleh | 01:31 |
| apachelogger | also we need a new website | 01:31 |
| apachelogger | ETOOMUCHTEXT | 01:31 |
| JontheEchidna | again? | 01:31 |
| apachelogger | also the top and icon navigation make your's truely go whoop whoop | 01:32 |
| apachelogger | skaet is getting us a quantal todo page set up | 01:39 |
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| JontheEchidna | lol, lunchpad strikes again: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2012-May/123060.html | 03:12 |
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| apachelogger | Bug Wars - The Lunch Strikes Back | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: so I am not allowed to ever file the SRU bug :P | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 10:11 |
| yofel_ | JontheEchidna: bwahaha. | 11:18 |
| yofel_ | Guess I'm back to sru-bugfiling-script-writing | 11:18 |
| yofel_ | *sigh* | 11:18 |
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| yofel | ~karma yofel | 11:18 |
| kubotu | karma for yofel: 16 | 11:18 |
| yofel | lol | 11:19 |
| yofel | apachelogger++ | 11:19 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna++ | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | http://9gag.com/gag/4243611 | 11:23 |
| yofel | tough piece of work ^^ | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | no jr? | 11:25 |
| yofel | he said he's taking a few weeks off for burnout prevention | 11:26 |
| yofel | (that was 2 weeks ago IIRC) | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | which reminds me | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: when do I get data on time-spent? | 11:28 |
| yofel | time-spent? | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | what we spend time on so that we can automated the tasks ;) | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/22/designing-for-pcs-that-boot-faster-than-ever-before.aspx | 11:30 |
| yofel | ah | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | always these long mails | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:02 |
| apachelogger | lo | 12:05 |
| apachelogger_ | quassel really needs UI fixes | 12:06 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: FWIW, I think the supportedness in muon is rather negative anyway | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | should be something like supported by cannonical vs. supported by the community | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | as it is right now it suggests that only software supported by canonical is supported software | 12:54 |
| ScottK | That's true. | 13:05 |
| ScottK | It could just as well say supported by $JRSNEWEMPLOYER and the Kubuntu community. | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | too long :P | 13:06 |
| jtechidna | hmm, but if we were to do that we'd need to somehow differentiate between that and the rest of universe, or wherever our packages land | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | also that conflicts with the idea of making kubuntu independent ;) | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: Maintainer = kubuntu-devel || Maintainer = *@kubuntu.org? | 13:07 |
| jtechidna | that could work | 13:07 |
| ScottK | People will get put off by no longer maintained by Canonical. | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that is for sure | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:07 |
| jtechidna | apachelogger: but then there is stuff in main that we sync from debian that has them as the maintainers | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | yah, just thought of it | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | I propose two support sets | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | supported by canonical | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | supported by the community | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | latter could have a subset supported by the kubuntu community, though I do not see the benefit in that | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | that said, if you want to mess with canonical you could make it supported by the Kubuntu community (on everything that is not canonical :P) | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | god how I hate that branding mess | 13:10 |
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| ScottK | The binary packages all have a *buntu maintainer as they are mangled during build. | 13:12 |
| ScottK | Even if the source is sync'ed from Debian and still shows the Debian maintainer. | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | oh, cool | 13:13 |
| ScottK | Of course parts of the system are still supported by Canonical. We aren't rolling our own kernel. | 13:13 |
| ScottK | So supported by is a bit nuanced in any case. | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | the information is only useful for support contract usrs anyway | 13:14 |
| jtechidna|work | OSS achievement get: Be quoted 4 levels deep in a mailing list. :P | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | it's all supported by someone, otherwise it would not be in the archive ^^ | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna|work: Oo | 13:15 |
| ScottK | yofel: Are you planning on looking after the retries needed for 4.8.3? I started mashing retry buttons for i386, but don't know I'll be able to sort them all out. | 13:44 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It looks like yofel neglected the l10n upload for 4.8.3 in precise-proposed. Could you do that? | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: heading to a meeting right now, I'd earliest get to it in 3 hours | 14:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: That'd be great. | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | ok ..BBL , stuff to do | 14:09 |
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| ScottK | yofel: Nevermind. I'm doing the retries. | 15:21 |
| yofel | ok, just got home | 15:22 |
| yofel | I didn't manage to do l10n yesterday (apachelogger: did you upload?) | 15:22 |
| ScottK | yofel: He didn't yet. | 15:28 |
| yofel | then I'll do it (takes an ~hour to generate) | 15:28 |
| CIA-42 | [kde-l10n-common-precise] Philip Muškovac * 118 * debian/ (changelog config) branch off for precise | 15:31 |
| yofel | ScottK: and the packages that I can't upload are: | 15:40 |
| yofel | http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pkgs/blinken_4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1.dsc | 15:40 |
| yofel | http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pkgs/cantor_4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1.dsc | 15:40 |
| ScottK | yofel: Please sign the packages. | 15:44 |
| ScottK | Without that, I've got no way to verify what I downloaded is correct. | 15:46 |
| yofel | oh, sec | 15:47 |
| yofel | ScottK: try again | 15:48 |
| ScottK | K. | 15:49 |
| ScottK | Done. | 15:50 |
| BluesKaj | ok ,yardwork beckons ...time to get off my butt and get moving ...later folks | 15:54 |
| technoviking | quick question, what is the hex color for Kubuntu blue? | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | yay, less works for me \o/ | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: time is mostly spent on exams xD | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Can't do it before the 6th of next month in any case | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | by that time I will have died of boredom | 18:06 |
| dasKreech | Who would I speak to about NM ? | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | the NM developers? :P | 18:09 |
| dasKreech | Debugging :) | 18:10 |
| dasKreech | I have someone with a USB network card that isn't loading the drier | 18:10 |
| dasKreech | Loaded up the pegasus chipset driver and it turns on but then resets everytime it gets an IP address with Carrier Off | 18:11 |
| dasKreech | which happens to be a recent NM bug so I'm trying to figure out if it's the driver (I think more likely)or the NM bug | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | driver :P | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | dasKreech: try #ubuntu-devel | 18:18 |
| dasKreech | apachelogger: ok good idea | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | asac does nm stuff I think | 18:18 |
| BluesKaj | dasKreech: does the pegasus need NM to run , perhaps removong NM and running with static lan settings in the network interfaces file will workaround the problem | 18:35 |
| dasKreech | BluesKaj: No idea | 18:38 |
| BluesKaj | dasKreech, then actionparsnip iin #ubuntu might know , if he's there today | 18:40 |
| dasKreech | BluesKaj: He's helping :) | 18:41 |
| dasKreech | apachelogger: is it me or does the service command not use stdout ? | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: have you already merged everything? | 18:55 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: we merged *something* - lots left to do | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | the pad is a bit confusing tbh | 18:56 |
| * shadeslayer waves fist at MoM | 19:00 | |
| highvoltage | they should've bought her a new server for mother's day | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | apparently it's supposed to be working | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | gtg | 19:03 |
| soee | hi, yofel any news about 4.9 ? | 19:14 |
| yofel | soee: won't be ready that soon, but first of all, 4.9 wasn't even tagged yet by KDE ^^ | 19:14 |
| yofel | the date's tomorrow | 19:15 |
| soee | oh, thouth beta was planned on 22 may? | 19:15 |
| yofel | soee: 30th http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Release_Schedule - but we won't make that | 19:15 |
| soee | so the dates chenged :) | 19:16 |
| yofel | hm, scripting sru bug filing wasn't as tricky as I feared... https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kate/+bug/971231 | 19:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 971231 in xorg (Ubuntu) "X leaks memory and becomes unusable" [Undecided,Invalid] | 19:28 |
| technoviking | quick question, what is the hex color for Kubuntu blue? | 20:15 |
| sreich | couldn't you just use kcolorpicker? | 20:16 |
| swecarp | is there anny way to chage the background coulers in kickoff panel | 21:17 |
| sreich | by changing the plasma theme | 21:18 |
| sreich | or customizing individual parts of it through the ui | 21:18 |
| sreich | system settings->workspace appearance | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x84m3YyO2oU | 21:22 |
| swecarp | sreich, what i mean can i change the wite background to the icons | 21:22 |
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