=== matthew is now known as powda [00:27] hello does anyone know how ubuntu 12.04can detect and install a driver usb ethernet adapter? === rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli [00:38] hello does anyone know how ubuntu 12.04can detect and install a driver usb ethernet adapter? === Gryllida is now known as gry === Guest45554 is now known as cryptfu === kubuntu is now known as Hunterbabe [01:06] sunitasethi: hi [01:06] What adapter? [01:09] Is there any way to get back to the desktop, after you go into this full-screen terminal by pressing ctrl + alt + F1, without rebooting? [01:10] hi, can somebody tell me the package name i would install to get some screensavers to choose from in kubuntu 12.04? i only have "blank screen" and "random" in my list right now === warren is now known as Guest19484 [01:11] NoiseCounselling: alt+ctrl+F7 [01:11] NoiseCounselling: Want me to teach you about what's happeneing? [01:11] giantpune: How do you install packages? [01:12] sudo apt-get install ... or synaptic package manager. im not a big fan for muon [01:13] giantpune: try apt-cache search screensaver | grep kde [01:13] no need for sudo [01:13] NoiseCounselling: I guess you are also the NoiseCounsellor? [01:14] dasKreech, the only one that pops up with that is kde-workspace-bin and i already have it installed [01:14] but in case you are in a hurry [01:14] !info kscreensaver | giantpune [01:14] giantpune: kscreensaver (source: kdeartwork): Additional screensavers for KScreenSaver. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.8.2-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 474 kB, installed size 1529 kB [01:14] dasKreech: Thanks! And yes, I am. Pulled up the fullscreen terminal and ^C rebooted... :/ [01:15] NoiseCounselling: The Way that UNIX (and hence Linux) thinks about computers is that it expects multiple people to be using the computer at once. [01:15] woot. that gave me some to chose from [01:16] Each person would have their own terminal and can interact with the system without disturbing anyone else [01:16] giantpune: :-) [01:16] daskreech: it is the usb ethernet adapter...i found it in the lsusb list but i cannot get it to work [01:16] NoiseCounselling: In the new brave world of only having one computer Linux gives you VTs or virtual terminals [01:17] Those are by default spawned on boot and exist on alt+Ctrl+F1 to alt+ctrl+F7 [01:18] sunitasethi: can you apstebin lspci ? [01:18] ppastebin [01:18] what is that daskreech? [01:18] i am new to ubuntu [01:19] NoiseCounselling: So when you press alt+ctrl+F1 you are not switching to a new command line you are switching to another computer terminal [01:19] sunitasethi: What is pastebin ? [01:19] yes [01:19] or lspci ? [01:19] !pastebin | sunitasethi [01:19] sunitasethi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:19] Ah, so is that this whole tty1. tty2 etc business? guess tty1 defaults to text for compatibility or something? [01:19] NoiseCounselling: By default the Graphic interface is put on termianl 7 [01:19] NoiseCounselling: Yes [01:19] ok [01:20] NoiseCounselling: It would be better to say that 7 defaults to GUI for incompatibilty with the old fogeys :) [01:20] yes daskreech i put in lspci [01:21] i do not see the ethernet adapter [01:21] sunitasethi: Ok go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output in there. It will give you a new URL. Give us the URL here [01:23] NoiseCounselling: It is useful however since if you really really mess up things in one terminal (Say the GUI) you can just jump to another one login and fix the problem [01:23] They are segregated [01:24] dasKreech: Wow, thanks! I'm trying to read up it all, but I have to admit, it's lot to learn. [01:25] 1 [01:25] 2 [01:25] 3 [01:25] 4 [01:25] 5 [01:25] 6 [01:25] 7 [01:25] 8 [01:25] 9 [01:25] 10 [01:25] 11 [01:25] 12 [01:25] 13 [01:25] 14 [01:25] 15 [01:25] 16 [01:25] 17 [01:25] 18 [01:25] 19 [01:25] 20 [01:25] 21 [01:25] 22 [01:25] sunitasethi: What are you doing? [01:26] i think those were the line numbers from pastie he copied and pasted [01:26] NoiseCounselling: Ha yeah I used to encourage learning as much as you can but now I just direct people to learn about what's possible. As much as you can is slightly more than the lifespan of most people [01:26] Oh dear [01:27] sunitasethi: Sorry I meant just the URL from paste.ubuntu.com [01:27] hello [01:28] sunitasethi: Please don't paste flood like that. [01:28] IdleOne: Think he was following my badly explained instructions [01:29] dasKreech: happens. [01:29] sorry idle [01:29] no worries. [01:29] sunitasethi: The URL only is needed please [01:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002242/ [01:30] you see daskreech...this is the output for lsusb [01:30] not how to i get the speedstream to work? [01:31] the lspci output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002236/ ? [01:31] ues [01:31] yes [01:31] i do not see Bus 002 Device 016: ID 067c:1001 Efficient Networks, Inc. Siemens SpeedStream 100MBps Ethernet there [01:31] i see it in lsusb [01:31] sunitasethi: Right I'm looking at it. The Gigabit Ethernet doesn't work? [01:32] thats lsusb, not lspci [01:32] that is the interal ethernt that is not working [01:32] sunitasethi: Right that means that when you plugged it in it identifiedd itself but Linux has no drivers for it [01:32] how do i get the driver? [01:32] sunitasethi: as in doesn't work at all or doesn't work under Linux? [01:33] what about dmesg? [01:33] i do not have the driver for it [01:33] the driver cd is for windows 2000 [01:33] sunitasethi: I know seems to be a issue for speedstream devices. Do you know what model it is? [01:34] sunitasethi: can you pastebin the output of dmesg ? [01:34] it is ss1001 [01:35] sunitasethi: looks like http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/110PTR45WYL._SL500_AA300_.jpg ? [01:35] yes [01:35] that is it [01:36] ok [01:37] the dmesg output is very long [01:37] shuld i send it? [01:37] the last 10 or 20 lines should be good enough [01:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002253/ [01:39] this is for dmesg [01:39] looks like line 191 may be it [01:40] yes [01:40] how do i get it to work..i do not have the ubuntu driver for it [01:40] giantpune: Lots of cannot enumerate USB 6 [01:41] you can unplug it and plug it back in and see the end of that output and see which one it is [01:41] or dmesg -c [01:43] dmesg -c did not work [01:43] I see someone getting the 1012 to work [01:43] how do i get the driver for this? [01:44] sunitasethi: doesn't seem as if one was ever done. :-/ [01:44] And apparently they had Linux support on the box for it [01:44] yes [01:44] On the site they have Linux support coming soon. When it came out in like 2002 [01:45] well it is surely detected [01:45] 10 years is possibly not a common definition of soon [01:46] just cannot get it to show in the network list [01:46] sunitasethi: Yes that means the card is working. It announces itself on the USB bus [01:47] someone suggested this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002262/ [01:47] but i coud not get it to work [01:49] Right since it breaks at lspci [01:49] so now? [01:49] Ok there seems to be a pegasus driver that address speedstream USB in general. [01:50] I'm guessing that's if it's using the pegasus network controller [01:52] dazkreech: can anything be done? [01:52] Possibly but it does seem like an obscure problem. [01:53] where did you buy it? [01:53] Ok it does seem to use the pegasus chipset [01:54] So may just take adding the edid to the recognized list for that driver [01:54] Hopefully >_> [01:55] Seems a load of people are having issues having it recognized on vista as well so it's possible that it uses some variant of the chipset firmware that makes it unique [01:56] ebay [01:56] not sure [01:57] dasKreech: If there was nothing left to learn, what would be the fun in that? Appreciate the lesson. Thanks! Still, I also believe in learning by doing and I'd rather ask a question and get an answer than be stuck and/or abort. For example: I'm currently setting up a second machine but the screen keeps freezing. I accidentally switched to the fullscreen terminal on this box instead of the other and got stuck. I knew how to get there and [01:57] thought about it like some sort of emergency tool only. Also. that's why I'm replying like, half an hour late... [01:57] sunitasethi: Do you have a /lib/modules directory ? [01:58] NoiseCounselling: so you believe in learning by doing but rather ask a question that get stuck? :) seems contradictory [01:58] no [01:58] NoiseCounselling: but alt+ctrl+F7 should should get you bcak to where you are comfortable [01:59] daskreech how can i find out? [01:59] NoiseCounselling: You can log into here from the terminal as well. I often advise people to learn how to do that in casethey horribly break something [01:59] sunitasethi: ls /lib/modules [02:00] i cant even find the section for ethernet stuff on their website. they have siemens bullet trains, windmill power plants, washers and driers, ... . but no ethernet adapters [02:00] type in lib/modules ? [02:01] sunitasethi: ls before it. [02:01] sunitasethi: It's a directory so ls lists your files [02:01] and /lib/modules is where it exists [02:02] the first / is important [02:02] ok [02:02] !info irssi | NoiseCounselling [02:02] NoiseCounselling: irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.15-4ubuntu3 (precise), package size 870 kB, installed size 2396 kB [02:04] dasKreech: I mean _occassionally_ ask questions or for help. All theory is useless, if you have no opportunity to use it. I guess in the end I prefer whichever provides more benefit in the long term. I mean, I don't have a man tty1 and man tty didn't tell me how to get back, either. When I somehow broke KWin by switching to an incompatible rendering device I managed to fix it perfectly fine with nothing but tty and vim, hehe. [02:04] NoiseCounselling: Ha ha excellent :) [02:05] NoiseCounselling: I think I'd like the theory on waht happens to the lungs after 6 minutes of breathing underwater over teh practical [02:05] NoiseCounselling: but most theory is only warm fuzzies without actual use :) [02:05] i'd say the lungs fill with water [02:06] daskreech i have the windows 2000 driver cd for the adapter [02:06] sunitasethi: Yes but that doesn't even work on windows any more [02:07] hi cancer [02:08] dasKreech: hey [02:08] yes i know [02:08] sunitasethi: how are you online now? Wireless? [02:09] hi ronnoc [02:11] bye ronnoc XD [02:12] any luck daskreech? [02:12] dasKreech: what's the problem? [02:13] why are you asking about wireless? [02:13] $3 usb-ethernet adapter from ebay said it was supported in linex, but it isnt working out-of-the-box === unit193_ is now known as TheDrums [02:15] sunitasethi: can you pastebin the output of ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net ? [02:17] ops sorry, dasKreech i was mistaken. [02:17] is it important to have 2 nick. [02:18] sunitasethi: ack wait. ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net [02:18] cancer: :-) [02:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002289/ [02:20] here das [02:21] sunitasethi: Is that the second comamand I gave you? [02:21] !tab | sunitasethi [02:21] sunitasethi: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [02:21] You can use tab it finish the spelling of my name [02:21] Makes life much easier [02:21] Works on the terminal as well [02:22] NoiseCounselling: Hopefully you know about the above too [02:22] no [02:22] i used the 1st [02:22] an you pastebin the output of ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net ? [02:22] ok [02:23] ty [02:23] thanks [02:23] thank u dasKreech [02:23] sunitasethi: Sorry I'm looking for drivers. try ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb [02:23] That should give the drivers you have available for USB ethernet cards [02:24] or wireless. [02:24] or cable >_> [02:24] dasKreech: auto-completion by pressing tab I knew. Yesterday, I found out you could simply "cd directory" instead of "cd ./directory/" [02:25] NoiseCounselling: Ah that's helpful. I presume you know the difference betwenn absolute and relative paths? Please don't humble my presumptious nature :) [02:26] I know that /path/to is relative and that C:\Useless\Folder would be an example for absolute! :) I figure relaitve applies to wherever you are inside the file structure and absolute always starts at the root directory? [02:29] did not work [02:29] the command was not ofund [02:29] found [02:33] sunitasethi: "ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb" doesn't work, because command wasn't found? "ls" is a small L, not an I. I used to think it was an I when I got started... [02:34] sunitasethi: command not found? ls ? [02:36] it did [02:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002299/ this is it [02:37] what dasKreech said did not [02:37] what NoiseCounselling said did [02:37] hooray NoiseCounselling :) [02:38] "ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb" worked [02:38] Ah ok so you have pegasus [02:38] pegsus? [02:38] sunitasethi: pegasus.ko That should be the driver for the ethernet card [02:38] It's just not being loaded (hopefully) [02:39] ok [02:39] k [02:39] hw do i get it to load? [02:40] daskreech is there a driver for windows 7?? [02:40] dasKreech: how to activate dictionary for kubuntu to check spellings either in here.:) [02:41] dictionary? [02:41] cancer: I think that you can type alt=F2 -> dict: word [02:41] But that may have been something I did myself [02:41] There is a dictioanry widget [02:41] i have xchat and it has spellchecking already [02:41] oh spellings [02:41] cancer: alt+F2 -> spell word_that_speel_horriably [02:42] also auto-replace. usually i misspell "the" so i got xchat to fix it automatically for me [02:43] dasKreech: it's a Joke right :D | 'spell word_that_speel_horriably' :p [02:44] giantpune: but "teh" is one of the greatest ways to emphazise something! [02:44] sunitasethi: sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko [02:44] cancer: yes :) but it should work it will give you the proper speeling :) [02:44] NoiseCounselling: aint' that teh truth! [02:44] no response [02:45] s working [02:45] is working i think [02:45] it is looking for wired connetion [02:45] sunitasethi: Shooooo [02:45] Works :-) [02:46] Now we need to get Linux to associate the USB with that driver [02:46] Well let me not rejoice [02:46] let m wait till it gets an IP [02:47] sorry [02:47] it keeps disconnecting [02:47] i also have wireless on [02:47] not sure why [02:48] rejoice fail [02:48] yo everyone, good day. I have kubuntu 12.04 installed, but have started using Xmonad. I have some things in .xinitrc, such as xset for keyboard rate, but they don't appear to be running when start xmonad by default from kdm. Does .xinitrc not run by default? is there somewhere else I should place these? I made a symlink from .xinitrc->.xsession, but that didn't help either. Cheers [02:49] xixor_: Yes it reads it [02:49] sunitasethi__: So it doesn't get an IP? [02:49] daskreech it reads it but keeps disconnecting [02:49] it is connecting [02:49] ok so may need to modify the driver [02:49] ok [02:49] dasKreech: my .xinitrc has the following: exec xset r rate 250 35 & [02:50] dasKreech: and: exec xcompmgr &, but neither appear to be running? Any suggestions? cheers [02:50] how dasKreech [02:50] Why do you have & and exec ? [02:50] no idea [02:51] dasKreech: is it a one or the other? [02:51] ah well exec destroys the shell so nothing after that line will be executed anyway as far as I remember [02:51] oh really? [02:51] So that makes the & redundant [02:52] It's essentially killing it's parent and taking it's place [02:52] what is inxi for? [02:52] cancer: where did you see it? [02:52] dasKreech: I have multiple commands in .xinitrc, should I be using & on all of them without exec? I tried that, but the commands didn't seem to run [02:52] xixor_: yeah I'd take out eh exec [02:52] how descreech? [02:53] how do i get the disconnecting and connecting loop to connect? [02:53] dasKreech: alright, thanks, cheers mate [02:53] Note: It is important that only one exec line is uncommented, or else only the first uncommented line will be run <-- xixor_ [02:53] the last line would be something like exec xmonad [02:53] dasKreech: it keeps disconnecting [02:54] sunitasethi__: ermm I'll try and get some help since a) I'm leaving soon and b)it's starting to go out of my depth. [02:54] ok [02:54] thanks [02:54] sadreech well the cable is on [02:54] it is working [02:55] it is just not maintaining connection [02:55] dasKreech: why is it disconnecting? [02:56] sunitasethi__: I'd need to look at the NM logs [02:56] Network Manager logs [02:56] What is going on with freenode? Is someone attacking the servers again? [02:57] k [02:57] where are the logs dasKreech? [03:01] sorry dasKreech where is the log? where do i find it [03:01] sunitasethi__: grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog [03:01] i am a novice [03:02] sunitasethi__: It's ok. almost all logs that are not made by you personally running your own personal program (like IRC) will be in /var/log [03:03] If it's a personal program then it will be in your home directory [03:03] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002310/ === cancer is now known as shan [03:03] this is the log for "grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog" === shan is now known as cancer [03:04] i have the wireless connection on also dasKreech [03:04] ccan both be on? === cancer is now known as shan === shan is now known as cancer [03:05] sunitasethi__: Yes it will just choose the faster/less congested [03:06] dasKreech: can both be connected? [03:06] sunitasethi__: hi [03:06] I've seen computers with 6 cards in there [03:06] ok [03:06] so how come this is not connecting? dasKreech [03:07] how do you highlight the messages here? [03:08] sunitasethi__: just have someone say your name [03:08] Your IRC client will colour it [03:08] ok [03:08] k [03:09] did you see the log dasKreech? [03:09] Yes [03:09] will this work "lshw -C Network" [03:09] could be a NM bug instead of the driver this time [03:09] sunitasethi__: I don't know. Try it. It will list your hardware network cards [03:10] ls = list hw = hardware [03:10] ok [03:10] the wired network is not connecting at all now [03:10] it did connect [03:11] i dont know what happened [03:13] sunitasethi__: try service network-manager restart. it will kick you off the net though [03:14] k [03:15] dasKreech: in the ipv6 settings tab (same area as where for ipv4 you set "shared to other computers") change "automatic" to "ignore". This looks like it works [03:17] sunitasethi__: Ah well it was turning off right after the IPv6 [03:21] dasKreech: u there? [03:23] dasKreech: the connection is established as shown but still not connected [03:28] sunitasethi: not sure that means what I think it means [03:28] so it says it's connected but it really isn't? [03:28] yes [03:28] yes dasKreech [03:29] wired connection established [03:29] but without wireless router connection it does not connect to the server [03:29] my firefox pages say that no server [03:30] and irc disconnects dasKreech [03:31] sunitasethi: ok can you pastebin the output if ip a [03:31] of [03:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002320/ dasKreech [03:32] the connection is not there but says established [03:32] dasKreech: [03:34] sunitasethi: It says no carrier [03:34] ? [03:34] the adapter's light is on [03:34] It can't detect the cable [03:34] Yeah but something is up [03:35] Where is it getting the 10.42. IP address from? [03:35] the wired connection is showing in network connections [03:35] i do not know where the ip address is set [03:36] the router maybe? [03:36] ip address is from the router [03:36] is it not? [03:37] dasKreech: router? [03:38] dasKreech: i am using the router's wireless connection and this is the wored [03:38] sunitasethi: Yes I just wanted to know if that was familiar. Is it the same router that has the wireless? [03:38] wired [03:38] yes [03:38] Hmm a little strange [03:38] ubuntu is connected wirelessly and i am trying this wired connection [03:39] normally it would be giving out the same netmask So if your wireless gets a 192.168 ip address the wired would get one as well not 10.42 [03:39] Not impossible but still a little strange [03:39] ok [03:40] JontheEchidna: ping [03:42] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002324/ see this [03:42] i changed the wired connection setting to default settings [03:42] see [03:43] dasKreech: see this [03:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002324/ [03:43] ok [03:43] dasKreech: i had changed the settings...now back to default and now there is no connection at all [03:44] it is looking for connections dasKreech [03:44] sunitasethi: can you type sudo dhclient eth3 and see what it does [03:45] nothing [03:45] JontheEchidna: Who would be the person to talk to about networking ? [03:45] sunitasethi: as in it returns without saying anything? [03:45] yes dasKreech [03:46] :-/ [03:47] dasKreech: i had to reopen terminal [03:47] dasKreech: there was no response === NoiseCounselling is now known as NoiseCounseling [03:49] It didn't return the prompt to you? [03:50] no dasKreech [03:51] dasKreech: let me try again [03:52] dasKreech: the cursur is flahing [03:52] Let it run [03:52] ok [03:52] May just be trying something [03:53] dasKreech: still flashing [03:53] The lights? [03:54] in terminal there is a white square flashing dasKreech [03:56] the light is stable [03:56] dasKreech [03:57] ok [03:57] and the terminal hasn't returned ? [03:58] yes [03:58] OK I'm going to guess the driver needs some tweaking. do you need this working right now? [03:58] ok [03:59] well will take long? [03:59] I have no idea. Tahat [03:59] i hate this [03:59] That's the issue right now. There is very little information I have on this [03:59] ok [04:00] sunitasethi Yeah it's kinda sucky but at least with Linux you can dig into it and fix it somewhow on Windows you basically just give up :( [04:00] daskreech: what to do? [04:01] sunitasethi: ok lets do something to help speed this up next time. Lets make a new command to load the network card [04:01] * dasKreech waits === cancer is now known as shan === shan is now known as cancer === cancer is now known as shan [04:06] dasKreech: there? [04:06] sunitasethi: yes [04:07] dasKreech: where are you looking? [04:07] dasKreech: maybe i can do search with you [04:07] sunitasethi: would you like to make a new command to load the drivers so you can get help if I'm not here next time? [04:07] sunitasethi: many many places :) [04:08] dasKreech: alright just need the adapter to get internet [04:08] it is already connected to the router [04:08] the connection is with router not the internet [04:08] * NoiseCounseling celebrates his first kern panic! [04:09] sunitasethi: Wait you can ping the router? [04:09] Where would I look for probably graphics card related error logs, that cause the entire system to freeze up or cause a kernel panic? :/ === shan is now known as Shan [04:10] NoiseCounseling: /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.lorg [04:10] log [04:10] ok [04:10] sunitasethi: no wait that doesn't make sense :-/ [04:12] thanks dasKreech [04:13] sunitasethi: I was thining that maybe your route isn't set. actualy that may be true. [04:13] sunitasethi: can you pastebin route [04:14] the router is set [04:14] it is the same router for wireless [04:15] can yuo pastbin ip a ? [04:15] dasKreech: can't seem to mount the partition /var/ was on any more, Guess I'll disassemble that machine and start from scratch. [04:15] ok [04:15] NoiseCounseling: hmm? what's mount saying? [04:17] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002339/ [04:17] dasKreech: the adapter is still looking for connection [04:19] well, uhm, I booted from CD and the partition wouldn't show up at first. before I got to do anything to try and recover or at least fsck it, the machine shut down. I don't feel like retrying any more since it keeps resetting without warning. If I've had to guess, I'd think the heat spreaders on CPU or GPU aren't making sufficient contact so it keeps overheating [04:23] dasKreech: there? [04:24] NoiseCounseling: Ouch. [04:24] sunitasethi: can you pastebin grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog ? [04:25] I just want to find out if it has stabilized [04:25] daskreech it is not the router it is the ethernet adapter [04:25] i can connected wired with another computer [04:25] dasKreech: [04:25] there? [04:27] sunitasethi: I know that :) Just trying to figure out if the issue is the driver or network management [04:28] dasKreech: Your first block indicates there's no DHCP server on your local network. found this [04:30] sunitasethi: Yes I was guessing that the driver is having an issue keeping up the connection. It would be the most reasonable assumption but I've found a Network manager bug that shows this same pattern that was discovered this year so trying to figure out which is the problem [04:30] Shan: ho [04:30] hi [04:31] dasKreech: wow where do you get this info? [04:31] sunitasethi: network manager and redhat Bug listings [04:32] ok [04:32] I looked for the wrror messages from the syslog and tried to see if there was any driver related issues [04:32] dasKreech: yes, i'm here ;-) [04:32] dasKreech: oh [04:32] I didn't find anything that looked close enough so I looked for other pages that had the same error and found a lot of bugs filed. They were filed this year so they seemed pretty recent [04:33] dasKreech: alright thanks for your help [04:34] sunitasethi: ok I'm going to have to go but let me do this. Lets make a command that you can use to load up teh driver again when you boot [04:34] what would you like it to be named? [04:34] no spaces :) [04:34] O.o [04:35] ok [04:35] so all this work can be deleted? [04:36] I'm not sure what you mean. Which work? [04:36] getting the adapter to recognize the router [04:36] Shan: That's goign to be really hard to find a good pair of spectacles for [04:36] it just has not connected [04:36] with the router [04:36] dasKreech: [04:37] sunitasethi: right when you reboot it will be back to default. I'm going to make a command so you can load up the driver (and if you like another one to unload) [04:37] dasKreech: and sure there isn't you pair for find. i like that sense.... [04:38] dasKreech: are you married :D [04:38] So when you come back you can just load it up and be back to here. Ifit's not a driver issue then we can take it from there. if it s a driver issue we can edit the driver and get that working [04:38] ok [04:38] thanks [04:38] can I reboot and try? [04:38] please [04:38] sh :) [04:38] k [04:38] sunitasethi: Sure if you like. The USB controller won't be recognized again when you do that but the wireless should work right? :) [04:39] ok [04:39] then i will need to go through those steps again? [04:40] what is the driver commend? [04:40] command? [04:41] you know what forget it [04:41] there is no point [04:41] sunitasethi: that's what I said [04:42] sunitasethi: I will make a command that you can remember [04:42] i mean this has taken forever [04:42] ok [04:42] thanks [04:42] please tell [04:42] sunitasethi: name the command yourself [04:42] what would you remember? [04:42] you can do all this in linux lol [04:42] wow [04:42] sunitasethi: You can do almost anything that you can think of :) [04:43] speedstreamdrivers1001 [04:43] speedstream1001driver [04:43] Ok [04:43] hmmm...would you call this programming? [04:44] it is :) [04:44] sunitasethi: ok type nano ~/.bashrc [04:44] k [04:44] you should get a file with a line that says fi [04:45] you can start typing below the fi === artao is now known as artao_beerRun [04:45] can you type ther? [04:45] yes [04:45] dasKreech: i can try this command too : 'nano ~/.bashrc' ? [04:46] ok [04:46] Shan: yes [04:46] sunitasethi: Ok type #My command aliases [04:46] and then to go back to default what will be the command? [04:47] on the next line type alias speedstream1001driver="sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko" [04:47] then press ctrl+x [04:47] dasKreech: bash'rc'? [04:48] rc? [04:48] Shan: yes rc. It means resource controller [04:49] sunitasethi: at the bottom you will see the commands. ^means ctrl [04:49] so ^v is control+V ^M is ctrl+M [04:49] it is stuck [04:49] if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] && ! shopt -oq posix; then [04:49] . /etc/bash_completi [04:49] i did not get to ype #my [04:50] sunitasethi: doing what? you typed in anything [04:50] sunitasethi: Ok press ctrl+C [04:50] i did not get to type #my [04:50] almoxarife: hey [04:50] i do not know why this is so complicated? [04:50] sunitasethi: It isn't [04:50] the driver installation [04:51] press ctrl+x then answer no to saving it [04:51] ok [04:51] now what? [04:51] sunitasethi: They are using a very obscure chipset from a company I don't think even exists anymore there were only about 30 cards ever made with the chip so it's a little strange [04:51] ok [04:52] sunitasethi: press alt+f2 and you will get a little drop down from the top of the screen [04:52] type kate ~/.bashrc in there [04:52] you will get a more normal editor :) [04:52] ok [04:52] dasKreech: what's about 'IBM E72' monitor with Nvidia Quadro FX1000 compatibility. [04:53] Shan: I don't know that much about that monitor what's the problem? [04:53] sunitasethi: after the fi put a new line that says #My command aliases [04:54] ok [04:54] The # is a comment so it's just to remind you that you put it there [04:54] ok [04:54] problem isn't in my ways, it was for cancer once. but he decieded not to play with it anymore. [04:54] should i "sudo apt-get install kate" [04:54] on the next line type alias speedstream1001driver="sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko" [04:54] Does anyone know how to fix the conflict with libtasn and the i386 version of the same library? [04:54] sunitasethi: you don't have kate installed? [04:55] All I'm finding are bug reports and nothing else. [04:55] insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/3.2.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko': -1 File exists [04:55] dasKreech: [04:55] no [04:56] dasKreech: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/3.2.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko': -1 File exists [04:56] this was a response [04:56] sunitasethi: ok it works then. [04:56] ok [04:56] wha works? [04:56] sunitasethi: You already have it loaded so it's telling you that it won't do it again [04:57] ok [04:57] sunitasethi: that's when you try to type speedstream1001driver right? [04:57] ok [04:58] ok [04:58] rbetzen: tasn-library is new ? [04:59] ok [04:59] thanks [05:00] thanks got ya [05:00] i just wish the adapter would connect [05:00] Shan: According to the description, it is a library to manage Abstract Syntax Notation Structures. Judging from the bug reports, this library has been around since at least 2006. [05:01] dasKreech: i wish the adapter would connect [05:01] The bug just showed up when I upgraded to Precise. [05:01] rbetzen: ok [05:03] Looks like a conflict between 32bit and 64bit versions, but I can't even force uninstall the packages and just reinstall one. === artao_beerRun is now known as artao [05:05] rbetzen: pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.10/...i386/libtasn1-3-dev_2.9-4_i386.deb.html [05:05] pkgs.org/ubuntu...i386/libtasn1-3-dev_2.7-1ubuntu1_i386.deb.html [05:06] check those links, can't say about your fault. [05:06] dasKreech: wish it worked [05:06] dasKreech: any advice? [05:06] :D [05:06] Shan: Will give it a try. Thanks! :-) [05:06] :) sure. [05:07] sunitasethi: I know and it's being picked up so that's a large first step. Hopefully should take some poking to get it stabilzed but I don't know enough right now to know what to put in the config for the driver [05:08] sunitasethi: Most of the ubuntu world is sleeping now so the morning may be better to get help gathered [05:08] ok [05:08] ok [05:08] when are you usually here? [05:08] sunitasethi: What do you need the wired connection for? [05:08] dasKreech: [05:09] well sometimes the wireless is slow [05:09] sunitasethi: Maybe in 10 hours? [05:09] or keeps jamming [05:09] sunitasethi: Ah right same reason I use wired. [05:09] not sure why [05:09] the speed was faster in wired kinda [05:09] it is ok though [05:09] i just got my money back from ebay [05:10] it was only 6 dollars [05:10] but still [05:10] Shan: ideas about? [05:10] sunitasethi: Also really annoying they advertise that it works under Linux then never did any work to make it work [05:11] dasKreech: cancer [05:12] Shan: Ah the videocard? I still dont' know what the problem is [05:13] sunitasethi: if I was more currentl on driver stuff it would probably be working alredy v_v [05:13] daskreech: windows 7 cannot find server either or maybe i did something [05:13] dasKreech: nah.... Oo.oO [05:13] daskreech is it possible that i did something? [05:13] ops sorry not for you. [05:13] sunitasethi: no that's correct a lot of the complaints I found about the "card" are from windows users [05:15] k [05:15] thanks [05:16] As i said it's a strange chipset (the pegasus) and I can't find the company anymore so the drivers are pretty messed up everywhere. I tshould work with that driver but may need some extra info [05:16] dasKreech: do you know of channel name '#pimpmymin' but not from kubuntu irc. it's from different channel. i saw some nick from this channel there. so i'm asking. want that network name. [05:18] [correction] '#pimpmymint'* [05:18] Shan: you mean a different server? [05:18] yes [05:19] Shan: try /server irc.spotchat.org [05:20] i got this message: you may not registered. ? [05:22] Shan: You need to register [05:22] !register [05:22] Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [05:23] Without the /join #freenode of course since it's on spotchat :) [05:24] how to join that server [05:24] ? [05:25] dasKreech: i'm registered === Shan is now known as cancer [05:26] dasKreech: do i need to manually add that server. [05:28] cancer: Umm what are you using quassel? [05:28] yes :-) [05:29] cancer: No quassel automatically remembers what you were in when you shut down [05:30] dasKreech: yup, but not after a new installation of kubuntu [05:30] cancer: you are reinstalling? Oh no wait you reinistalled [05:31] Well once you are joined it shuld remember [05:31] not again. [05:31] last time. as i remember a day before yesterday. i am talking about that install. yes it will now remember history. [05:31] dasKreech: why do you have ~roger@00.00.00.000 [05:33] some have quassel@unaffiliate.|blah blew agrr, etc.... why? [05:33] i'll like to be same if that's called security :-) [05:36] dasKreech: why that alwasy happen when i start to ask questions. don't tell me it's off-topic. =( [05:41] dasKreech: [05:42] cancer: Yes? [05:42] dasKreech: aren't you getting my messages? [05:43] cancer: Yes but I'm not at this computer. [05:43] cancer: You are quassell@unaffiliated if you care to know [05:45] dasKreech: if you like to tell, yes. [05:45] cancer: It's the connect string for the IRC client. Mine says my name and the computer I'm connecting from. The network I'm on is behind two virtual routers so it comes up without an ip [05:45] cancer: quassel doesn't put your name it just puts quassel@your isp name [05:46] or whatever they identify as. [05:46] dasKreech: you aren't using quassel? is that also because of ssl/tor.? === kubuntu is now known as Guest78297 [05:48] i mean ssl/tor set on you account/nick whatever. [05:48] dasKreech: i mean to get more secure. [05:48] cancer: No it's because I'm using this computer remotely so I'm just piping hte IRC text here [05:49] but you can put yourself behind tor if you like. I'm not sure how much more secure it is but does make you more anonymous [05:49] granted if someone really wants to get to you they still can but it's a good first step [05:51] dasKreech: ok [05:52] you are more secure than tor/ssl right now? [05:54] what i understood is that you are just behind routers. wait a .... what that 'virtual' router you mean by. [05:54] virtual router is 'script' based? [05:57] cancer: I doubt it ;) [05:57] Didn't TOR essentially switch your IP address with another TOR user by routing your traffic through that other user? [05:58] cancer: correct it's software based. Just breaking up very large networks into smaller internal netwworks [05:58] dasKreech: i used to work on mikrotik server. hope you know it. [05:59] I do [06:00] They had a replaceable firmware or OS or something like that [06:00] Iwas considering them for a job about 3 years ago [06:00] right. [06:01] In my country those servers are used for mostly wireless networks. [06:01] it'a again time for power...... in any second. :(( [06:01] which country? === hns is now known as Guest81836 [06:23] dolphine says my "could not start proccess. unable to creat io-slave; klauncher said unknown protocol 'filie' and muon is stuck and confguring libgs9 at 38 percent for half an hour [06:26] newbie: can you open a konsole? [06:29] user1_: cna You open a konsole/ [06:30] ya [06:30] and the directory listing is going file there [06:30] dasKreech, muon is stuck and confguring libgs9 at 38 percent for half an hour [06:31] user1_: kill muon and put sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install in konsole [06:31] ok [06:31] what will -f do [06:32] -fix [06:32] Or if you like finish but it means fix [06:32] ok [06:33] thanks! whats wrong with dolphin [06:34] Just guessing I would say something got stuck in Muon so it's in a partial installed state. When that's done try dolphin agian [06:35] Is there an acpi workaround that doesn't involve the acpi=off flag? [06:36] ok [06:37] dasKreech, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [06:37] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [06:38] i think i need to restart? [06:39] user1_: no [06:39] sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock [06:40] hm..! [06:41] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [06:41] user1_: do it [06:41] on it [06:42] what computer do you have by the wayi f may i ask [06:42] I built it [06:42] which one [06:43] What are you looking for? [06:43] i have dell 630 laptop and the fan doesnot runs. the shop keeper says its auto when heat is too much. how can i be sure. is there a way to run it by a software to let me know? [06:43] !inifo fancontrol [06:43] !info fancontrol [06:43] fancontrol (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 20 kB, installed size 111 kB [06:44] hm [06:44] i hope its gui [06:49] user1_: :) somehow I doubt it if it's 20 kb. That's smaller than one image [06:49] user1_: you can probably find GUI stuff for it though [06:52] * dasKreech steps away === niels_ is now known as nielsbusch [07:40] lordievader: hey :) [07:41] Shan: Good morning [07:41] How are you? [07:41] Good morning. that' what we call it in english. O.O [07:42] i'm fine, how's about you :) [07:42] lordievader: would you mind tell about you country. just name will be enough. :) [07:43] Shan: Please join the #kubuntu-offtopic channel for such conversations. === Shan is now known as cancer === cancer is now known as Shan === jeremy_ is now known as Guest50527 === Guest50527 is now known as haladur [07:55] hello? [07:56] i need some help [07:56] hi [07:56] haladur: is that nick from asia? [07:56] haladur: What is your problem? [07:56] im stuck on ubuntu and i have no idea how to use it [07:56] i need to mount an ISO [07:58] haladur: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821717 [07:58] haladur: Check the 5th post. [07:59] got a noob version [07:59] i never used linux before [08:00] haladur: Do you happen to know how to use the konsole/terminal? [08:00] like i said i NEVER used an linux before [08:01] haladur: Ok, look in the menu for konsole and open it. [08:01] termnal? [08:02] haladur: In the menu you have a search bar in there you can type konsole, and the konsole will pop up, click to open. [08:03] ok [08:04] Well in there type: sudo mount -t iso9660 .iso /media/cdrom0 -o loop [08:08] i got it mounted [08:09] i only see a tiny txt file in a 4gb iso [08:09] haladur: Good job! [08:10] haladur: I don't know what is supposed to be on there. [08:10] supposed to be win7 setup [08:11] Try re-mounting it... [08:12] how do i run an exe? [08:13] haladur: Linux cannot (natively) run exe's. That is windows stuff, if you really need to run it (something else than a windows installation...) you could try wine. [08:13] i need to reinstall windows [08:14] haladur, an exe? and win7? you need to reformat c:, a couple of times [08:14] almoxarife: im trying to [08:14] haladur, keep at it [08:14] almoxarife: What are you saying?!?! [08:14] This isn't helpfull it will just destroy his windows partition! [08:15] is there a program similier to unetbootin? [08:15] lordievader, ? explaining how he can install win7? [08:15] almoxarife: Ah ok, then I misunderstood. [08:16] haladur: Kubuntu has it's own usb installer thingie, look for Startup Disk Creator [08:16] haladur, if that does not work, turn the machine on and off a few times [08:16] almoxarife: windows is absoulty broke for me it just wont start up anymore [08:17] haladur, its a shame, thank god you got kde [08:17] haladur: Have you backed up your data? [08:17] i backed it up on my 2nd drive [08:17] haladur: Because then you can just reinstall windows, you will lose your settings though. [08:19] anyone have issues with the 3.4xxx kernel? [08:20] better yet, anyone have a fix for wicd-kde crashing on exit/quit ? i dont do it often but it is annoying [08:20] almoxarife: [08:21] Shan, i re-did it from source, it does the same thing, like if it was built to crash on exit === Shan is now known as cancer [08:23] almoxarife: can we talk in pm [08:23] please [08:23] dasKreech: welcome :) === cancer is now known as Shan [08:29] almoxarife: aren't you getting my messages in pm? [08:30] Shan, we having fun and games night? === KRF_ is now known as KRF === cancer is now known as Shan === Hansip-Hc is now known as LKJHG [10:57] hi, anyone know how to start hjsplit in kubuntu [10:57] ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === miro is now known as Guest91551 === frega_ is now known as frega [12:02] Hiyas all === Raging_Hog is now known as Guest67513 [12:05] Hi all. I have a problem with Quassel. It seems I have lost the icons next to the channels, those blue ones that show connected channels. They now look like white pages. I'll post an image to show you what I mean: http://imagebin.org/213431. Can anybody help me troubleshoot this, please? [12:16] lelamal: I'm taking a look at the quassel settings ...I have it open as a different user [12:17] Thanks, BluesKaj [12:29] lelamal: not sure what it could be , unless it's something to do with the colours ...the chat icons are a default blue here [12:29] hi [12:30] means I've joined [12:30] kmix anyone? when i tap the multimedia keys which are mapped to kmix, the volume gets changed in 5% increments, how can i change it to increment with 1%? [12:31] BluesQ: I can join too from Quassel, it's just that the icons look like white pages. Just a cosmetic glitch, that is. Oh well, time to try Konversation. Many thanks for your time, though! [12:32] ok lelamal , you'll enjoy konversation === ubuntu is now known as phox === phox is now known as haladur_phox === haladur_phox is now known as ubuntu === ubuntu is now known as haladur_phox2 [12:35] i need help [12:36] !help | haladur_phox2 [12:36] haladur_phox2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [12:36] i need help installing windows from ubuntu [12:36] i have an ISO of win 7 [12:36] as virtual or on the physical machine? [12:37] phycal [12:37] do you have more than 1 harddisk ? [12:37] yes [12:37] do you want the spare one filled with windows? [12:38] you say it like its a bad thing [12:38] that notion was not intended, its actually making the thing easier [12:39] i want my main drive used for windows [12:39] haladur_phox2: make sure you install windows on the sda device drive , the first drive in your bios [12:40] haladur_phox2: look in your bios , make sure your main drive is first in the list [12:40] how do i look? [12:40] when your pc starts it shows a key which you can press to get in bios menu [12:40] often f12 or entf [12:41] its before windows/linux starts [12:41] how do i install windows? [12:42] haladur_phox2: ok , run sudo fdisk -l , the drive to install windows on will be first in the list [12:44] -ok [12:44] is it listed first? [12:45] i think so [12:45] the first is then called hda or sda [12:46] sdb1 [12:46] /dev/sdb1 1 32796 263425574 7 HPFS/NTFS [12:46] already ntfs formatted? [12:46] yea [12:46] is there any stuff on it? [12:46] nothing importaint [12:47] then you can burn your windows iso and install from it. in the installer delete the readymade ntfs partition and tell windows to install in free space (in case youre installing windows 7 which creates 2 partitions) [12:47] haladur_phox2: I tried to install W7 to my sdb drive , it wouldn't install .I was told by the windows guys it has to sda or hda [12:48] i dont have a blank disk to burn [12:48] has to be [12:48] i got a usb drive [12:49] microsoft has a usbstick maker tool but it runs only on windows, do you have wine set up? [12:50] not compatable with this computer (i386) [12:50] haladur_phox2: I'm warning you ..windows won't install to the sdb drive ..it will fail [12:50] BluesKaj: You know if you can dd win images? [12:50] faglnar, dunno [12:51] haladur_phox2: laptop or pc? when pc plug to dirve to the first port [12:51] dirve -> drive [12:51] pc [12:53] how do i choose what OS to boot up at startup? [12:53] your bios will have a boot menu key, where you can choose from which drive you boot [12:54] whats the key? [12:54] also, when installed both and the ubuntu drive boots by default, ubuntus boot manager will ask you wheter to boot ubu or win [12:55] i dont see that windows just opens automaticly [12:55] is already installed? [12:55] xp not 7 [12:55] its not working [12:55] ah mm wait *memory diggin* [12:56] hi [12:56] but ubuntu still works? [12:56] i put the the disk in and selected try ubuntu [12:56] what happened to this claire lotion woman? there's a news on the kde dot but no info... [12:57] i try a software four learn english ? is possible ? [12:57] haladur_phox2: the ubuntu disk? do you wnat to install windows or ubuntu? [12:57] windows [12:58] what have you done already? [12:58] qualcuno parla italiano ? [12:58] !it | alice [12:58] alice: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [12:59] i tried installing xp but it wont work for me so i came back to ubuntu [12:59] :) sorry [12:59] alice: np :) [12:59] haladur_phox2: so you have ubuntu installed on one drive and a free ntfs partition on the other drive? [13:00] i got ubuntu installed on my 2nd drive [13:00] i vorrei or want speach in english , but not have the element now [13:01] haladur_phox2: then you need some way to burn your xp iso, i'll look if you can put it on usbstick [13:01] alice: this chat isn't meant for English lessons [13:01] i need win 7 installed === miro is now known as Guest60155 [13:02] haladur_phox2: why don't you join #windows chat , they can tell you how [13:02] blueskaj ok arysòrry :) [13:03] #ubuntu-it [13:04] alice: the correct one is /join #ubuntu-it [13:05] how do i get that OS menu back? [13:05] lelamal: on konversation ? [13:05] I'm on Konversation, yes BluesKaj [13:06] lelamal: It's a matter of taste , but I prefer konversation over quassel [13:07] haladur_phox2: the one from ubuntu? did you replug the drive for windows to first? if yes then look at your bios and search for a hint named bootmenu which lets you choose the drive [13:07] lelamal: I like Koversation more, too [13:07] its an internal HDD [13:08] BluesKaj: I'm starting to like it more too :), BluesKaj and faglnar [13:08] haladur_phox2: so waht exactly does happen if you start your pc without doing anything? [13:08] windows starts [13:08] faglnar: I tried changing the boot menu , there was no option , there the boot sequence but it only let's me choose boot groups like cdrom group , HDD group, etc. not the individual drives [13:10] BluesKaj: where do you mean? in the windows installer or bios? [13:10] bios [13:11] on my machine i can choose individual drive, how is it with yours haladur_phox2? [13:12] dunno [13:12] I was trying to do exactly what haladur_phox2 is doing and window won't install to a sdb partition , whether it's on a differnt drive or not [13:12] windows 7 [13:14] so windows 7 is installed or not? do you have a working windows somewhere, where you can create an windows 7 install media from? [13:14] can i just have a simple answer please [13:17] haladur_phox2: the simple answer is to install windows to the drive grub has designated as sda or hda , so install W7 on sda , then install kubuntu on the other drive, sdb [13:18] i have no idea what you said === abe_ is now known as abe [13:18] haladur_phox2: so do you have windows 7 on dvd or only as .iso file? [13:18] haladur_phox2: then ask in ##windows chat [13:19] * BluesKaj goes back to kubuntu support [13:19] just as an iso [13:20] do you have an empty dvd? [13:20] no [13:22] you can either buy a stash of empty ones for the easy way or try it the hard way with an usbstick. [13:22] ill buy dvds later [13:22] then report back when you have [13:22] can you tell me how to get that OS menu back? [13:23] this one where you choose ubuntu or ubuntu recovery? [13:23] yea [13:24] did you plug the harddisk in another port? [13:24] it would be hard to [13:25] I need help. I want to quadboot my computer. [13:25] its installed on my 2nd HDD [13:26] haladur_phox2: so you did not change any plugs of the hardrives? did you change something in the bios menu? did you try to install something already as this could have destroyed the os menu? [13:26] DFrostedWang: how many HDDs? [13:26] haladur_phox2: brb @ toilet [13:26] 2. Backup drive is 15 GB and has kubuntu on it, though. [13:27] i installed winxp faglnar [13:27] any windows OS going to be installed , DFrostedWang? [13:28] I want to get rid of windows and not lose wubi install [13:30] haladur_phox2: where did you install it? [13:30] !grub2 | haladur_phox2 [13:30] haladur_phox2: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [13:31] DFrostedWang: this is the method for that http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html [13:39] BluesKaj: That doesn't work for me. I have a version of wubi that's incompatible. [13:42] then you may have to just install kubuntu on a different partition , DFrostedWang , or find another method [13:42] BluesKaj: whats a good app to burn iso? [13:42] not kubuntu, ubuntu. And I need to shrink windows to do that. And I can't. [13:43] Does anyone have any problems with pover-management in newest Kubuntu? I disabled all screensavers dimming and so on, and still when I watch some movie, display becomes blank after some time. [13:44] haladur_phox2: in windows or kubuntu ? [13:44] ubuntu [13:44] pity setup your power management to plus 180 mins [13:46] haladur_phox2: what's the default burn app in ubuntu , I've forgotten , in kubuntu it's k3b [13:46] haladur_phox2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [13:47] bah === ubuntu is now known as Guest97756 [13:49] lelamal: that link crashed all the apps i had open [13:52] Guest97756: that's just a link to the official Ubuntu documentation for burning ISO files. I don't see how it could. === Guest97756 is now known as haladur_phox2 === ubuntu_ is now known as haladur_phox2 [13:53] lelamal: Executable: drkonqi PID: 11823 Signal: 7 (Bus error) [13:54] haladur_phox2: I don't have a clue about the error displayed. Try to copy/paste the link in your web browser instead of clicking on it. [13:55] it just crashes firefox [13:55] also, you may want to try the #ubuntu channel, which is more suitable for Ubuntu support. This is the Kubuntu channel. [13:55] haladur_phox2: ^ [13:58] Guest11406: then you have oyther problems ..that link is fine [14:00] oops wrong guest ..wish you guests would choose a nick [14:09] ok ..BBL , stuff to do === lindalou is now known as westmi [14:32] hi, can i upgrade from maverick to precise? [14:33] or i must upgrade to nattu and the to precise? [14:33] *natty [14:34] hello === Guest11406 is now known as akSeya === akSeya is now known as Guest14742 [14:43] snikker: maverick>natty>onieric>precise ...you'll be better off to backup your data and do a precise 12.04 clean install [14:44] BluesKaj: ok, thank you [14:44] has anyone had experience editing .desktop files? [14:44] snikker: unless you have separate / and /home partitions , then just install precise to / . [14:45] If so, can you explain to me how to edit .desktop files to allow a shortcut to appear on the Ubuntu launcher for all users? [14:45] Mitchell_M: you can edit the original ones as root [14:45] faglnar: yes [14:45] I am the admin [14:46] Mitchell_M: they are in /usr/share/applications [14:46] faglnar: yes, I've been trying to play with them. I cannot figure out how to get them to do what I want [14:46] for example i copied my firefox shortcut to one with another name, so i can have two different profiles as shortcut [14:46] whatdo you want to do? [14:47] So say I have MATLAB, I want to run a script that will make a .desktop file so that the program appears in the launcher for my clients to access easy [14:47] Of course there will be one running the installation too [14:48] So after the install [14:49] Mitchell_M: i am really not that confident about scripting, maybe someone else can help [14:50] Well if I can get the idea, you don't need to tell me anything about scripting [14:50] But no worries, I got an answer from another channel :) [14:50] They sent me here http://askubuntu.com/questions/73096/how-to-make-applications-pinned-in-launcher-appear-for-all-users [14:50] in KDE normally every .dsektop file in /usr/share/applications will appear in the launcher after relogin [14:51] :O, I see [14:51] I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 so I'm not sure it would work the same [14:51] BluesKaj: i've two partitions /boot and / [14:52] Mitchell_M: then better ask in #ubuntu as I did not use unity or gnome much [14:58] kk [14:59] snikker: I suggest you change /boot to / , /boot isn't absolutely necessary unless you're using it under special circumstances , grub will install . [15:00] BluesKaj: i use xfs filesystem and the version of grub wich i use doesn't support xfs for boot [15:02] faglnar: i'm noticing a lot of ubuntu users coming here for help , could it be they are overwhelmed with unity etc probs [15:02] BluesKaj: may be? havent joined #ubuntu often [15:03] oh, crap. I just deleted corpstoratge-bikeshed. [15:03] in mtv [15:03] BluesKaj: nobody talking there right now. but they have 3 floodbots, we have 2 === emma is now known as em [15:06] snikker: sorry , you could have mentioned that sooner ...most of us have no experience with xfs ...anyone ? [15:16] I do [15:16] wwhat is the issue? [15:18] L3top: pls address the person you're asking [15:19] I guess that would be snikker. I just got here. What is the issue with xfs? [15:19] i want to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 using the alternate CD, but cdromupgrade freeze and nothing happen [15:24] saidi: perhaps the cd is corrupted [15:25] BluesKaj, i checked it with md5sum and it's ok [15:25] L3top: i must upgrade to precise, i've got /boot (ext2) and / (with xfs) [15:26] L3top: can i merge all in / with xfs? [15:27] L3top: grub whixh is installed with precise, support xfs? [15:35] you can... grub will reside in the master boot record... but so you know, xfs is not really ideal for an install partition. It works very well for large media due to its unique journaling system, but not so great for lots of little read/writes. [15:36] snikker: ^ [15:36] L3top: thank you [15:41] L3top: I read in the forums where xfs quite slow vs ext with regular read writes to compressed and uncompressed files [15:43] yes... it should really just be used for media storage/streaming... it is ideally suited for that purpose BluesKaj [15:44] L3top: so my external media drive should have an xfs ...it has all our viseo, audio and photos on it [15:45] err video [15:46] it's not a usb drive , it's an esata>sata . L3top [15:46] yes.... that would be an ideal situation BluesKaj. Esp if you stream to more than one location... [15:47] oh... I thought it was a NAS... but yes... same still applies. [15:47] L3top: this pc is our media server located right under the HT setup [15:48] I use LinuxMCE (built on kubuntu), and stream from the NAS to everywhere in the house... [15:49] so it plays to the TV thru a dvi/hdmi to the TV and spdif/coax to the audio ystem [15:49] I have one headless server, and a lot of little ions which PXE boot from the server connected to the tv's through hdmi. [15:50] and a 9Tb NAS [15:50] yeah i was going to setup a NAS on my other linux box but the mobo died in the middle of the transition [15:50] hi. where package contain smooth tasks? [15:51] sorry * what package [15:51] hello === mozafar is now known as hanibana [15:51] anyone know about the pegsus ethernet adapter? [15:51] mozafar plasma-widget-smooth-tasks [15:52] Not specifically sunitasethi... what is the problem you are having with it? [15:53] L3top: no: Couldn't find any package whose name ... Also I get nothing with "apt-cache search smooth task" [15:54] what version are you on hanibana? [15:54] L3top: 12.04 LTS [15:54] L3top: ubuntu 12.04 found the ethernet adapter in lsusb but the adapter is not connecting to the internet [15:54] ok ,yardwork beckons ...time to get off my butt and get moving ...later folks [15:55] * L3top ignores desperate cry from yard === joel is now known as Guest2710 [15:55] L3top: i found out that my ubuntu uses pegusus ethernet [15:55] L3top: i needed to activate pegusus...which command do i need? [15:55] !info plasma-widget-smooth-tasks lucid [15:55] plasma-widget-smooth-tasks (source: plasma-widget-smooth-tasks): alternate task manager Plasma widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0~wip20100227-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 290 kB, installed size 708 kB [15:56] i do not see an alternate for 1204 hanibana [15:57] sunitasethi: the type of adapter should not matter, it is either supported or it is not... does lspci | grep Ethernet return the adapter? [15:58] L3top: I suppose I've got last kubuntu version. So, what's the problem? [15:59] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/universe/base/plasma-widget-smooth-tasks <=--------- hanibana [15:59] it was deleted from the repository. [16:00] er... sorry sunitasethi [16:00] L3top: no [16:00] sunitasethi: yes. [16:00] L3top: i see it in lsusb [16:00] L3top: i do not see it in "lspci | grep Ethernet " [16:01] L3top: how can i place it in lspci? [16:01] wait it is a usb dongle or something? [16:02] You do not place things there, it reads the pcibus, if it cannot see it in the bus then you would have to add the firmware... but this isn't a pci device if I understand you correctly. [16:03] sunitasethi: ^ [16:03] L3top: this is a usb ethernet adapter [16:04] sunitasethi: can you please pastebin /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [16:04] L3top: i do not have the driver for it [16:04] L3top: i had someone help me here yesterday and he helped me connect but it is all gone [16:04] L3top: i did not take notes [16:04] here is the log http://pastebin.com/4hCqyACb [16:05] L3top: it says permission denied to the 70 persistent net command [16:05] L3top: i know that the adapter can work and is functional [16:06] sudo cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [16:06] sunitasethi: ^ [16:06] L3top: what does this do? [16:06] L3top: they are rules? [16:06] L3top: KDE 4.8 has an icon-only Task manager. :) [16:07] it makes you root, so you have permission... cat will display the contents of the file on your screen. I need to see them. [16:07] sunitasethi: [16:08] included with its default widgets. [16:08] L3top: what is 70 persistent? [16:10] 70 indicates its priority, persistent net rules is generated at boot with the internet adapters it can recognize that are attached to the system so that the rest of the system can manipulate/assign them [16:16] sunitasethi: did you see my reply? You dropped at some point. [16:17] L3top: i can get the system to recognize the adapter in lsusb [16:17] L3top: can u give me command to show this in ethernet connections [16:17] L3top: please [16:19] sunitasethi: I am trying to help you, but you aren't letting me help you. cat /etc/network/interfaces will show you how your network is currently assigned. [16:21] However if 70-persistent-net.rules does not list this adapter, then nothing will be able to assign it for use, which is why I asked to see the contents of that file. [16:21] L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003230/ [16:21] it is part of the udev system designed specifically for ethernet device management. [16:21] yes.... I dont need that [16:22] I need to see the udev rule. [16:22] L3top: as i said someone helped me get to work last night and now it is all gone [16:22] L3top: i am new to linux and programming [16:22] L3top: i know that the adapter works [16:22] sunitasethi: I am not them. I don't know what they did, but if you aren't going to give me what I need, I cannot help you. Perhaps you can wait for them. [16:22] L3top: it connects to internet but it is not right now [16:23] L3top: please tell me the command [16:23] sudo cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [16:25] L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003234/ === mgagne is now known as wftl [16:26] do you have several of these? [16:27] sunitasethi: ^ [16:27] L3top: no [16:27] L3top: just 1 [16:28] L3top: there are 3 usb connections on this computer [16:28] I ask because each has its own mac address. [16:28] sunitasethi: the first thing I would do is backup that file, then delete it, then boot with that device plugged in and a new rules file will be generated. [16:29] Good evening. [16:29] ok [16:29] sunitasethi: sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ~/Documents [16:30] sunitasethi: reboot [16:30] sunitasethi: keeping the usbdevice plugged in [16:31] what will this do? [16:31] This will move the file to your users Documents folder. [16:35] evening lordievader. [16:38] sunitasethi: Hi [16:40] L3top: I can give some background if you like [16:41] Sure! Just trying to get him running with the adapters he actually has ;) [16:41] dasKreech: ^ [16:43] L3top: He has three cards in the systems a gigbit Ethernet that he says isn't working a USB Siemens Speedstream USB adapter that says Linux compatible on the box when it isn't and a wireless [16:43] diaper change brb [16:43] and Lo nad behold only the wireless works. Fascinating what world we live in these days [16:43] i want to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 using the alternate CD, but cdromupgrade freeze and nothing happen, here is the log http://pastebin.com/4hCqyACb [16:43] L3top: I'l keep feeding you info [16:44] saidi: dio you have a netbook or a laptop? [16:45] dasKreech, laptop [16:45] L3top: I did some research and found the chipset in the device is called pegasus. If he does sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko then the device turns up and starts connecting but then resets itself [16:46] saidi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and try again [16:47] L3top: The error it was throwing was Carrier off or carrier lost I forget now but it could have eihter been the driver (I think likely) or a fairly recent NM bug I couldn't decipher which [16:47] dasKreech, i get this error http://pastebin.com/iQBQNaKC [16:48] saidi: :-/ anything else you'd like to tell me about the computer? does sudo apt-get update work? [16:50] dasKreech, some packages are update using oneiric repos (by mistake) [16:51] apt-get update works fine [16:55] saidi: I would generate a precise sources.list and go again. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ [16:56] saidi: by go again I mean sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [16:57] L3top, i'm using natty [16:57] ohhhhhhhh... then I would not follow my advice. [16:58] well... I would but I would use oneiric [16:59] I would also backup anything important that I had not already saidi [17:01] here are the packages http://pastebin.com/b06JFNH7 how can i go back to older version? [17:05] dasKreech, can this be fixed? [17:10] i can list the folders on the client but when i am prompted for username and password and i give it.. it doesnt lets me in. what can be wrong. using kubunt as server and kubuntu as client [17:10] !downgrade | saidi [17:10] saidi: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. [17:12] newbie: how are you attempting to connect, to what? [17:12] hi guys ... can anyone point me to a room where to ask about how to get my wacom bamboo tablet working? [17:12] can anyone tell me how to find out which usb ethernet adapter ubuntu is using? [17:12] sunitasethi: ifconfig [17:12] L3top, i just go to samba shares [17:13] sunitasethi: what do you mean by "using"? you mean "using to connect to the Internet" ? [17:13] how do i find pegasus on my system? [17:14] * Shaan7 has no idea what pegasus is, sorry === NoiseCounsellor is now known as NoiseCounselling [17:14] dasKreech is here sunitasethi. He helped you last night. [17:15] yes l3top [17:15] thanks [17:15] dasKreech: hello [17:16] dasKreech: i tried to get back to where we left off but everthing seems to be reset [17:16] L3top: thanks [17:18] hello?? can someone point me to a channel where I can get help on how to get my wacom bamboo tablet working on kubuntu? or can someone here help? I solely see it using "lsmod" and the kernel-module wacom seems to be loaded [17:18] but in the graphics tablet configuration it says no tablet found [17:19] and xsetwacom doesn't find it either [17:20] I followed the latest wacom driver install guide on ubuntu-channel ... === vsrao is now known as Wheatley [17:26] joehannes: Try "sudo xsetwacom" to try it with root privileges. If you succeed, it's a permissions problem. [17:26] !wacom | joehannes [17:26] sunitasethi: what's happening. Did you try the command we made? [17:26] tried sudo to no avail ... [17:26] !wacom ? [17:26] joehannes: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:27] joehannes: Hmm htere used to be a wacom link from the robot [17:27] !wacom [17:27] joehannes: It's gone now :( [17:27] :( [17:27] I just found theres a libwacom2 driverk-package which hasn't been installed before ... just checking if this helps [17:28] joehannes: "apt-cache search wacom" will show you all packages for wacom. [17:29] dasKreech: yes [17:29] xserver-xorg-input-wacom driver should be installed by default [17:29] dasKreech: last it did start to connect but now it is the same [17:29] thx DarthFrog ... I've done that as well ... not much to be found apart from the xserver-wacom package, the libwacom and the kde-graphic-tablet thingy ... all installed now and the kde-graphic-tablet config tool says no tablet device found [17:30] dasKreech: it says that command is not found [17:31] joehannes: Have you checked that yours is a supported model? [17:31] well ... how to? :) but it's a very basic, in fact the most basic wacom bamboo pen [17:32] joehannes: I'd do a google search for Linux and your wacom model. [17:32] As a start. [17:33] and in fact before I did a dist upgrade to the newest kernel it was a diff error msg .. it said wacom deamon not running .. but tablet found ... then I updated the kernel and now it's gone [17:33] sunitasethi: :-( [17:34] kde help says only if neither xsetwacom, lsusb or xinput show the tablet it's not supported ... but lsusb shows the tablet ... [17:34] sunitasethi: type sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko [17:34] i can see the adapter in the lsusb but nowhere else [17:34] I wonder if I do have to do some magic insmod thingy .. not good at such things ... ahh exactly [17:35] joehannes: If you do, use modprobe instead of insmod. And list your module in /etc/modules. [17:36] dasKreech: it did not work [17:36] will try, thx [17:36] sunitasethi: gave an error? [17:36] dasKreech: command not found [17:36] joehannes: you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom already? [17:37] sunitasethi: sudo ? === Wheatley is now known as dpak [17:37] sunitasethi: or insmod ? [17:38] dasKreech: command not found === dpak is now known as Fury [17:38] dasKreech: please retype the command in " [17:38] in quotes [17:40] daskreech ... yesyes :) [17:40] but none of those options work [17:40] dkms-wacom doesn't exist === Fury is now known as gibberish [17:41] blues bails out on apt-get install [17:41] xsetwacom doesn't find the tablet [17:41] dasKreech: may I have the command again please? [17:41] hmmmm ...FATAL: Module /lib/modules/3.2.0_24_generic_pae/kernel/drivers/input/tablet/wacom.ko not found. [17:42] sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko gave back the prompt === gibberish is now known as dr__floss [17:42] dasKreech: sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/usb/pegasus.ko gave back the prompt === dr__floss is now known as flatulence [17:42] sunitasethi: right that's the command [17:43] L3top: ok you can start again. Should have the device back now [17:43] dasKreech: dasKreech i am not seeing the usbethernet adapter in my network settings === flatulence is now known as vsrao [17:44] joehannes: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Wacom_Tablet_Set_Up ? === ubuntu is now known as Guest56968 [17:44] sunitasethi: So it came up saying it's trying to connect? [17:46] hmm ... I'm afraid that doesn't help ... as xsetwacom won't recognize the tablet [17:48] dasKreech: that was last night but now there is no adapter to be found other than in lsusb === AD is now known as Guest80193 [17:48] haha ... just found out modprobe wacom ... without the specific location works [17:49] but I guess I'll have to restart for the xserver to recognize the kernel module which will not be autoloaded again and ... endlessloop [17:49] can someone tell me to which file to add the "wacom" mod so it gets autoloaded? just looking as well [17:50] joehannes: /etc/modules I think [17:50] sunitasethi: does it show up in ip a ? [17:50] as eth3 ? [17:50] cool [17:50] dasKreech: no [17:51] dasKreech: the adapter light is off also [17:51] rebooting now ... thx for the help [17:52] dasKreech: ok it is trying to connect but the adapter is not on [17:53] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003371/ [17:55] sunitasethi: ok [17:56] sunitasethi: so not detected. Hmm come that worked last night? [17:56] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003371/ see this [17:57] sunitasethi: Oh wait! try sudo ifconfig -a [17:57] dasKreech: last night it did connect and the light on the adapter came in [17:58] sunitasethi: Right I remember [17:59] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003382/ [18:00] dasKreech: the adapter light is not on and it is not connecting at all..last night i saw it connect [18:01] dasKreech: the mac address of device trying to connect is not in the sudo ifconfig -a [18:02] dasKreech: i have poor memory [18:02] dasKreech: i just do not know which command made the adapter to work [18:03] sunitasethi: can you pastebin lshw -C network ? [18:05] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003392/ === HakanS is now known as Guest61939 [18:06] sunitasethi: why doesn't the Gigabit work? [18:06] dasKreech: it is the 2nd network ethernet [18:06] dasKreech: the adapter is broken from outside..my father puller the wire out and not the wire does not stay in [18:08] Right. Just checking if it works [18:08] ok [18:11] dasKreech: will it work? [18:12] sunitasethi: asking for help. We'll try to get it sorted out [18:12] There is little info aout the adapter as I said === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox [18:15] dasKreech: it worked [18:16] dasKreech: i do not know how the light on the adapter came on but it did..you installed the driver [18:16] dasKreech: the driver is missing again [18:17] the device is read dasKreechbut not functioning [18:19] kde is upgrading now? [18:20] rapidsp: Hmm? [18:20] sunitasethi: ok so progress :) [18:21] dasKreech: nope [18:21] KDE 4.8.3 has moved from the testing PPA into the mainstream repo I think [18:21] my apt-get asks to update many packages [18:21] sunitasethi: It's on :) [18:21] dasKreech: no [18:21] dasKreech: it is off [18:22] again? [18:23] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003425/ this is all i have and not sure what its mac address is [18:25] dasKreech: how did you activate pegasus last night? [18:30] dasKreech: there? [18:31] Has anyone ever edited the /usr/share/glib-2.0/schema/ files before? I need help setting default Icons I want for new and current users. === NoiseCounselling is now known as NoiseChancellor [18:32] hello boicechancellor [18:32] noise [18:34] sunitasethi: I'm here [18:34] looking up /win 13 [18:34] looking up the ID for hte adapter [18:35] dasKreech: still not working [18:36] dasKreech: i thought it started to work last night..how did you start pegasus last night? [18:36] dasKreech: which command? [18:38] sunitasethi: can you join the Ubuntu channel? [18:38] sunitasethi: type /join #ubuntu in quassel [18:41] OMG, I have lost my kubuntu-desktop, how can I reinstall it please? [18:41] skype has broken my install I suppose [18:41] floown: calm down/ What's happeneing [18:42] I restart in recovery mode now [18:42] I can't log me [18:42] floown: what happens when you try to login ? [18:44] Does it attempt to login then throw you back to the login screen? [18:44] do you get an error before? [18:44] wait I'm reboot now… :| [18:45] I have update and upgrade my Kubuntu [18:45] I have notice that packets are for 386 instead 64 bits [18:46] floown: Oh ok You installed 64 bit? [18:46] ok, I'm on the log screen [18:46] Skype doesn't have a 64 Bit as I recall [18:46] yes I was in 64 bits untill I installed skype… [18:47] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesn't work in a TTY [18:47] impossible… === JDA is now known as JDA1 [18:49] floown: does sudo apt-get install pastebinit work ? [18:50] packets are not sort from incoming [18:50] it's the message… [18:51] yes it install pastebinit [18:51] Hello? How can I kill all currently running plasma widgets? [18:52] lorddelta: what are you trying to do? [18:52] dasKreech: what can I do now please? [18:52] floown: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | pastebinit [18:52] lorddelta: i think with plasma only [18:53] The problem is that I actually need to kill a rogue clock; my desktop...euhm...reset? itself recently, and I think the old plasma widgets which were on my desktop are still running, one of them is speaking the time at me every 10 minutes or so, and I want it to stop. I've removed all my visible clocks, and I'm still being told the time. [18:53] dasKreech: 1003882 [18:53] Question: [18:54] Trying to switch from Gnome to Kubuntu/KDE. Can not figure out how I can move task bar buttons to the location in the task bar that I want them to be. Is this correct forum? [18:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003482/ [18:55] floown: thanks [18:55] As an aside, I seem to be reporting bugs left and right in the kde interface. Seems like there's work to be done! [18:55] thx to you [18:55] I intend to help out, but first things first, I need to be able to shut up my clock when I go to sleep, I use a white-noise application to get rest... [18:56] lorddelta: kquitapp plasma-desktop would stop all running processes (and the desktop) if you need it down right now [18:56] lorddelta: i think you need ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/ [18:56] If you click on the add widgets interface you can filter by runing widgets and remove them there [18:58] dasKreech: Hmm? [18:58] Where would I filter, sorry? [18:58] Umm top left I think [18:58] I found it I think too, I forgot KDE has this nifty workspace feature...I'm used to just using a single desktop! :D [18:58] lorddelta: Oh you mean just normal removal :) [18:59] Thought you were having some issue with the X button on the plasmoid [18:59] dasKreech: No, but in case I want to see a list of running widgets where would I go? Is there a picture/documentation? [19:00] lorddelta: when you go to add a widget there is a filter for hte type of widgets One of htem is currently Running [19:01] granted it's a bad interface and I've complained about it in the past but it's what is there for now [19:01] floown: can you do sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin ? [19:02] Ah, found it. I don't see a way to kill the widget from the interface... [19:02] But yeah that lists all the currently running widgets.. [19:02] rapidsp: I'll try what you suggested too [19:02] Having a cmd line fallback is always nice/best [19:03] rapidsp: No, nvm doesn't look like that'll work, unless I'm missing something... [19:03] dasKreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003499/ [19:05] heh i upgraded now too :) [19:05] Anyways I solved my problem; I apologize for being a desktop idiot. I'm always looking for a terminal solution, sometimes its terminal ;) [19:05] may be i will have same problems :) [19:06] Ok, so I guess its off to kubuntu-dev to ask a question! [19:07] lorddelta: terminal solutions can work but require some amount of knowledge of hte underlying system [19:07] !info kde-workspace-bin [19:07] kde-workspace-bin (source: kde-workspace): core binaries for the KDE Plasma Workspace. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.2a-0ubuntu4 (precise), package size 2129 kB, installed size 10073 kB [19:08] floown: You have installed 4.8.3 ? [19:08] yes [19:08] the ppa [19:08] dasKreech: Well usually the battle for me is finding the knowledge of where to look. [19:08] After that its just reading! [19:09] lorddelta: Good idea. you acn ask in here. If I"m here I'll point you at places or systems [19:09] Or explain them if I can [19:11] Does anyone know how to drag task bar buttons to the desired location? I can't do that. [19:13] JDA1: open panel setting and do it [19:14] Sorry to be such a newbie, but am considering switch from Gnome to KDE. Could you be more specific? Is there a setting that says "Enable buttons to be moved"? (Sorry!) [19:16] i was wrong if that [19:17] JDA1: Which buttons? [19:17] icon-only task manager can that [19:18] another task widget [19:18] Not sure of the right terminology, but I mean the buttons at the bottom that represent running programs, such as email, browser, etc. I want to be able to drag the buttons to a certain place in the "task bar". [19:19] JDA1: errm Yeah that's possible Just trying to remember how now :) [19:19] may be legacy task widget cannot this [19:19] rapidsp may be right [19:21] JDA1: try with Shift or another prefix [19:22] JDA1: if I understood you correctly, click on the Panel Tool Box (right-most icon on the panel) [19:23] you could then grab the taskbar with the entries, and move it around within the panel. [19:25] lelamal_: Will log off, go to kubuntu, and try it and then come back. Thanks. [19:26] JDA1: np [19:26] JDA1: You can log in here from Kubuntu :) [19:26] Will do -- just got to switch from Gnome to KDE. Will return... [19:27] dasKreech: will do. thnx. [19:34] When I go to Panel Tool Box, it appears to be letting me move the ENTIRE task bar, but not the locations of the individual task buttons. Can you all drag your task buttons. For example, if your want your IRC client to be the left-most? [19:35] JDA1: ah I think I get what you mean [19:36] JDA1: then right-click on an empty area of the taskbar, and click on Task manager Settings [19:36] lelamal_: Good! One of my problems was just trying to describe what I wanted to do! I don't know the right terms for this stuff! [19:37] do you see Grouping and Sorting? Choose Sorting: Manually, from the drop-down menu [19:38] then apply, and retry what you wanted to do [19:38] lelamal_: YAY! That's IT!!! It was trying to sort them, so would not let me move them! I might just be able to use KDE after all! Thanks! ;-) [19:39] :) np! [19:41] JDA1: For mst people the entire bottom is the task manager. For KDE it's the panel. The Task manager just keeps track of the windows. And you can (as I have) remove it totally if you want to [19:43] dasKreech: Interesting. Still getting used to this. I'm pretty task bar oriented, so need it to be "just so". I find it helpful to just know a certain program is in a certain place on the bar. [19:46] JDA1: I stopped caring oncei I found ctrl+F9 [19:47] dasKreech: Wow, pretty cool. Looks like my Android! :-) Will keep that in mind! [19:48] dasKreech: You can also set Present Windows to one of the corners of your screen [: [19:50] JDA1: then if you type he name of a document or the window title or soomething for htat window it will focus in on it [19:51] like at least 6 times faster than moving the mouse to the taskbar for me [19:59] dasKreech: cool, thanks for the tips :). You never stop learning on this channel! [20:00] lelamal_: That's why I ask people to ask questions in here instead of in PM. You can get more help if more people see it and if other people didn't know then they learn as well [20:03] dasKreech: That focusing feature is pretty handy, especially if you have a lot of tasks open. [20:07] JDA1: Thnk that's fun? Look at ctrl+F8 [20:09] floown: how is it going? [20:32] Hum. Found another bug. [20:33] Chrome playing adobe induces ghosting on the screen, when minimized. [20:39] lorddelta: I seem to remember that hardware accelleration might be causing this. Do you have it turned on? === fernando is now known as Guest21349 [20:43] dasKreech: Ctrl+F8 -- also cool. Guess I better try Ctrl+F, to see what else is waiting! [20:53] NoiseChancellor: Likely? [20:54] dasKreech: the ppa is not updated [20:54] I think I usually have to use nvidia drivers else I experience what can only be described as a mix between a green/red filter and interlaced video, with a weird sort of meter in the upper right, which I can't tell what it'd be trying to do... [20:57] lorddelta: I didn't mean the hardware drivers. The flash plugins have an option to enable or disable accelleration [20:57] NoiseChancellor: Hmm, let me check [20:57] lorddelta: I'm not sure about Chrome, in Firefox you can get there, when you right click a player widget [20:59] NoiseChancellor: Yup. [20:59] Looks like that's the issue. [21:00] NoiseChancellor: Or not. [21:00] I thought it was fixed...in firefox. [21:01] ...interesting. Pidgin IRC isn't affected by this, but MSN pidgin windows are... [21:04] NoiseChancellor: its more specific than that...debug messages in pidgin are affected, despite the hardware acceleration of flash player... [21:06] lorddelta: Sorry, I'm out of ideas. I just remembered reading about it [21:07] wtf i'm doing in a kubuntu channel? [21:15] is there anny way to chage the background coulers in kickoff panel === len is now known as Guest27587 [21:25] rzs19: wasting your connection :-) [21:33] BlouBlou: yeah i was confused :D [21:44] good night I've a problem ti sincronize Kcontacts with google calendar someboby can help me to resolve [21:45] swecarp: yes, you can either change the entire desktop theme, or just change the kickoff one to be from another theme [21:46] I installed akonadi resorurce everything go well with my contacts but the calendar it's not good [21:48] giandomenico: from what I saw, you need to add two resources. one for Google contacts and one for Google calendar. [21:48] do you know the resource for gcaendar [21:48] the calendar one didn't work in the video I saw, but that video was probably old [21:49] I have no clue. I use web-mail only [21:50] Anyway i istalled two resorce I red a post on line and follow it [21:50] For contacts all righth for calendar no [21:51] anywa [21:51] tu === jeremy_ is now known as Guest10545 === Guest10545 is now known as haladur_phox === rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli === jason is now known as Guest78240 === manu is now known as Guest82009 === amichair_ is now known as amichair