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tumbleweedbregma: did you ever forward the patch in bug 871548 to debian?01:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 871548 in guichan (Ubuntu) "Library does not load in Ubuntu 11.10 due to missing symbols" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87154801:44
bregmanot sure, I'll have to check....01:54
tumbleweedwell, either way it needs a merge01:55
bregmanope, it looks like I missed forwarding that one01:58
tumbleweed:)01:59
bregmaworks fine in sid without the patch, at least last time I checked, it only fails in Ubuntu02:01
tumbleweedstill, means, you have to regularly merge it. If you can persuade the debian maintainer to take the patch, then :)02:01
bregmaOK, I'll submit the bug up to Debian02:11
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bobweaverhello there I have a question about merging branches or more so on purposing merge branches. I have made changes here https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide  (im joseph mills)    I have requested a merge for one of the pushes here https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fixed-bug767276/+merge/106929     My question is Should I be doing this for all the merges that I want aka all the pushes that I h02:48
bobweaverave done ? thanks for your time.02:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 106929 in Web Team projects "figure out how to import existing chapter wikis into our wiki farm" [Undecided,Fix released]02:48
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TheMusoWhere does discussion about ubuntu-dev-tools usually take place these days?03:58
TheMusoOther than bugs?03:59
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geserTheMuso: usually here, as the most active devs (Laney, tumbleweed) are here too06:24
dholbachgood morning07:05
gesergood morning07:08
bobweaverhello and gooed morning to you also07:09
bobweaverdholbach,  I see that you left me a message asking to .......07:09
bobweaverabout merging branches or more so on purposing merge branches. I have made changes here https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide  (im joseph mills)    I have requested a merge for one of the pushes here https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fixed-bug767276/+merge/106929     My question is Should I be doing this for all the merges that I want aka all the pushes that I have done ? thanks for your time07:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 106929 in Web Team projects "figure out how to import existing chapter wikis into our wiki farm" [Undecided,Fix released]07:10
dholbachbobweaver, yes please - if you push your code to launchpad, that's fine, but only if you ask for it to be merged (merge proposal) do others really get aware of it07:12
bobweavercool07:12
bobweavershould I be pushing code like that ?  bzr branch lp:~foo/bar  alter it then push back up  then delete the one that I just pushed and start all over again ?07:14
bobweaverfor each change07:14
dholbachyes, I do separate new branches for every bug I work on - I feel it gets less confusing07:15
dholbachbut maybe others in here have different modes of working07:15
bobweaversweet thanks for your time now back to hacking ubuntu tv if I could just get this lens and sccope to work :) cya07:16
dholbachall the best with that :)07:19
bobweaverone more question Traditional Packaging or the page for the guide is like using dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage -F  and fakerooot ?07:25
bobweaverlike "packaging from scratch " but with out bzr tools and what not thanks again07:26
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dholbachbroder, allison, tumbleweed, ajmitch, (and anybody else really): could you have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative and see if it's clear enough or add some new opportunities or edit it in any other way?10:28
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ogra_you forgot to mention that all armhf bugs are the ones with the highest prio for everyone !10:30
Laneyalso you missed the "fix mono on arm" challenge10:30
ogra_++10:31
ajmitchLaney: a trivial 5-minute job for a new contributor? :)10:31
ogra_yeah, its low hanging fruit10:31
Laneybzr branch; hack; commit; propose; win!10:31
ajmitchLaney: y no git clone? :)10:31
ogra_(because its such heavy fruit it hangs very low)10:31
ajmitchheh10:31
Laneyput that in the packaging guide ^o)10:31
Laneyit's such a ripe, juicy fruit10:32
* ajmitch wants to be able to build on armhf at home10:32
dholbachany more serious notes? :)10:32
ogra_even more serious ?10:33
ajmitchdholbach: I looked at the list earlier today, it looked useful :)10:33
Laneywell, are you proposing to have uploads for those typo fixes?10:33
ajmitchI'll try & add anything else I come across that may be useful10:33
dholbachLaney, they're ubuntu-only packages10:34
LaneyI know, I'm just wondering about uploading /just/ to fix a one-word typo10:34
dholbachI'll leave that to the sponsor to decide10:35
dholbachif they just want to commit into some branch, that's fine with me :)10:35
Laneyok10:35
LaneyI don't know how much of an emphasis you will be placing on having stuff in the archive is all10:36
dholbachI guess the main point is that we provide new contributors with stuff they can easily start with and get their feet wet10:37
ajmitchI think if fixes aren't uploaded they may get lost in the noise10:37
ajmitch& people like to see their name on the -changes list10:37
ajmitcheven if it's a really small fix for something10:37
dholbachso if they enjoy fixing something, easily learn processes and tools and find and entry point, then we have succeeded10:37
* ajmitch wonders if he can switch timezones with someone in order to make it to the meeting this week10:42
dholbachit might be a good idea to try to agree on alternating times for the meeting10:43
dholbachI realised that this meeting is going to clash with a meeting I have as well :-/10:43
ajmitchcould be, but only if you're going to have enough people showing up at the agreed-upon times10:43
dholbachI think we had the old meetings at 12 and 22 UTC or something - this might work better for UTC+ and UTC- timezones10:44
ajmitchwe can sort that out when needed10:45
geserI saw "revu-tools" on that list? is revu-tools still used and usefull?11:03
geserdholbach: didn't the old MOTU meetings rotate with 8h?11:05
dholbachah yes, sorry11:05
dholbach12 and 20 UTC11:05
dholbachI just checked some of the entries on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Headers/NextMOTUMeeting?action=info11:06
geserI mean, didn't we have 3 meeting times?11:06
ajmitchgeser: it's so long ago now :)11:06
dholbachgeser, I think I recall us doing that for Packaging Training sessions, but for the meeting, I'm unsure11:07
geserlooking at diffs from your linked page: 4:00 UTC, 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC11:07
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cjwatsontumbleweed: So you know the way I said that Archive.getPublishedSources() probably wouldn't be that slow for figuring out what to auto-sync?14:59
cjwatsonUm, yeah14:59
cjwatson>>> date(); len([(s.source_package_name, s.source_package_version) for s in quantal_sources]); date()14:59
cjwatsonWed May 23 14:23:29 BST 201215:00
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tumbleweedcjwatson: aah, I thought you were just going to look at Sources.bz215:37
cjwatsonThat's the next fallback; unfortunately it doesn't correspond well with what Launchpad's imported, in the case of Debian15:38
cjwatsonWhich means that I need to concern myself with the case where somebody uploads something to unstable every six hours and we never sync it because Launchpad is always a bit behind Sources15:39
cjwatsonI guess I can use the Debian Sources file just for "is it newer", and the rest can come from what Launchpad has imported15:39
tumbleweedthat works15:42
gesercjwatson: wouldn't it be enough to check only new published records (created_since_date) since the last run? or am I missing something?16:13
cjwatsonThat might help if I knew when the last run was16:13
cjwatsonI mean, I do, but the script doesn't16:13
cjwatsonIt's not necessarily always run by the same admin, for instance16:14
gesercan't the script save the date it got last run in some file?16:15
geserhmm, that probably won't work if the AA run that script on their own machines, unless there is some common storage all AA can access16:17
vibhavtumbleweed: ping16:32
tumbleweedan overlap presumably wouldn't matter too much16:44
tumbleweedvibhav: yup?16:44
vibhavtumbleweed: Since I have not triaged any bugs, what do I write in my application to the bug control?16:46
tumbleweedvibhav: if you haven't been triaging bugs, what do you need bugcontrol membership for?16:47
ScottKYou wait until you triage some bugs, I'd think.16:47
vibhavtumbleweed: Nominating bugs for SRU16:48
jtaylorI don't think bug control can do that anymore16:49
jtayloror was it bug squad where it was changed?16:49
vibhavI think its still bug control16:53
ScottKIn any case, you need to do some triaging first.16:53
vibhavok16:55
PaoloRotoloSalve17:07
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dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/1000356 anyone knows what bugreporter just means ?18:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1000356 in remmina (Ubuntu) "remmina/xfreerdp crashes while trying to use 'remote control'" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:50
dupondjecan't seem to simulate it18:50
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