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tumbleweed | bregma: did you ever forward the patch in bug 871548 to debian? | 01:44 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 871548 in guichan (Ubuntu) "Library does not load in Ubuntu 11.10 due to missing symbols" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871548 | 01:44 |
bregma | not sure, I'll have to check.... | 01:54 |
tumbleweed | well, either way it needs a merge | 01:55 |
bregma | nope, it looks like I missed forwarding that one | 01:58 |
tumbleweed | :) | 01:59 |
bregma | works fine in sid without the patch, at least last time I checked, it only fails in Ubuntu | 02:01 |
tumbleweed | still, means, you have to regularly merge it. If you can persuade the debian maintainer to take the patch, then :) | 02:01 |
bregma | OK, I'll submit the bug up to Debian | 02:11 |
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bobweaver | hello there I have a question about merging branches or more so on purposing merge branches. I have made changes here https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide (im joseph mills) I have requested a merge for one of the pushes here https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fixed-bug767276/+merge/106929 My question is Should I be doing this for all the merges that I want aka all the pushes that I h | 02:48 |
bobweaver | ave done ? thanks for your time. | 02:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 106929 in Web Team projects "figure out how to import existing chapter wikis into our wiki farm" [Undecided,Fix released] | 02:48 |
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TheMuso | Where does discussion about ubuntu-dev-tools usually take place these days? | 03:58 |
TheMuso | Other than bugs? | 03:59 |
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geser | TheMuso: usually here, as the most active devs (Laney, tumbleweed) are here too | 06:24 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:05 |
geser | good morning | 07:08 |
bobweaver | hello and gooed morning to you also | 07:09 |
bobweaver | dholbach, I see that you left me a message asking to ....... | 07:09 |
bobweaver | about merging branches or more so on purposing merge branches. I have made changes here https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide (im joseph mills) I have requested a merge for one of the pushes here https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fixed-bug767276/+merge/106929 My question is Should I be doing this for all the merges that I want aka all the pushes that I have done ? thanks for your time | 07:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 106929 in Web Team projects "figure out how to import existing chapter wikis into our wiki farm" [Undecided,Fix released] | 07:10 |
dholbach | bobweaver, yes please - if you push your code to launchpad, that's fine, but only if you ask for it to be merged (merge proposal) do others really get aware of it | 07:12 |
bobweaver | cool | 07:12 |
bobweaver | should I be pushing code like that ? bzr branch lp:~foo/bar alter it then push back up then delete the one that I just pushed and start all over again ? | 07:14 |
bobweaver | for each change | 07:14 |
dholbach | yes, I do separate new branches for every bug I work on - I feel it gets less confusing | 07:15 |
dholbach | but maybe others in here have different modes of working | 07:15 |
bobweaver | sweet thanks for your time now back to hacking ubuntu tv if I could just get this lens and sccope to work :) cya | 07:16 |
dholbach | all the best with that :) | 07:19 |
bobweaver | one more question Traditional Packaging or the page for the guide is like using dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage -F and fakerooot ? | 07:25 |
bobweaver | like "packaging from scratch " but with out bzr tools and what not thanks again | 07:26 |
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dholbach | broder, allison, tumbleweed, ajmitch, (and anybody else really): could you have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative and see if it's clear enough or add some new opportunities or edit it in any other way? | 10:28 |
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ogra_ | you forgot to mention that all armhf bugs are the ones with the highest prio for everyone ! | 10:30 |
Laney | also you missed the "fix mono on arm" challenge | 10:30 |
ogra_ | ++ | 10:31 |
ajmitch | Laney: a trivial 5-minute job for a new contributor? :) | 10:31 |
ogra_ | yeah, its low hanging fruit | 10:31 |
Laney | bzr branch; hack; commit; propose; win! | 10:31 |
ajmitch | Laney: y no git clone? :) | 10:31 |
ogra_ | (because its such heavy fruit it hangs very low) | 10:31 |
ajmitch | heh | 10:31 |
Laney | put that in the packaging guide ^o) | 10:31 |
Laney | it's such a ripe, juicy fruit | 10:32 |
* ajmitch wants to be able to build on armhf at home | 10:32 | |
dholbach | any more serious notes? :) | 10:32 |
ogra_ | even more serious ? | 10:33 |
ajmitch | dholbach: I looked at the list earlier today, it looked useful :) | 10:33 |
Laney | well, are you proposing to have uploads for those typo fixes? | 10:33 |
ajmitch | I'll try & add anything else I come across that may be useful | 10:33 |
dholbach | Laney, they're ubuntu-only packages | 10:34 |
Laney | I know, I'm just wondering about uploading /just/ to fix a one-word typo | 10:34 |
dholbach | I'll leave that to the sponsor to decide | 10:35 |
dholbach | if they just want to commit into some branch, that's fine with me :) | 10:35 |
Laney | ok | 10:35 |
Laney | I don't know how much of an emphasis you will be placing on having stuff in the archive is all | 10:36 |
dholbach | I guess the main point is that we provide new contributors with stuff they can easily start with and get their feet wet | 10:37 |
ajmitch | I think if fixes aren't uploaded they may get lost in the noise | 10:37 |
ajmitch | & people like to see their name on the -changes list | 10:37 |
ajmitch | even if it's a really small fix for something | 10:37 |
dholbach | so if they enjoy fixing something, easily learn processes and tools and find and entry point, then we have succeeded | 10:37 |
* ajmitch wonders if he can switch timezones with someone in order to make it to the meeting this week | 10:42 | |
dholbach | it might be a good idea to try to agree on alternating times for the meeting | 10:43 |
dholbach | I realised that this meeting is going to clash with a meeting I have as well :-/ | 10:43 |
ajmitch | could be, but only if you're going to have enough people showing up at the agreed-upon times | 10:43 |
dholbach | I think we had the old meetings at 12 and 22 UTC or something - this might work better for UTC+ and UTC- timezones | 10:44 |
ajmitch | we can sort that out when needed | 10:45 |
geser | I saw "revu-tools" on that list? is revu-tools still used and usefull? | 11:03 |
geser | dholbach: didn't the old MOTU meetings rotate with 8h? | 11:05 |
dholbach | ah yes, sorry | 11:05 |
dholbach | 12 and 20 UTC | 11:05 |
dholbach | I just checked some of the entries on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Headers/NextMOTUMeeting?action=info | 11:06 |
geser | I mean, didn't we have 3 meeting times? | 11:06 |
ajmitch | geser: it's so long ago now :) | 11:06 |
dholbach | geser, I think I recall us doing that for Packaging Training sessions, but for the meeting, I'm unsure | 11:07 |
geser | looking at diffs from your linked page: 4:00 UTC, 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC | 11:07 |
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cjwatson | tumbleweed: So you know the way I said that Archive.getPublishedSources() probably wouldn't be that slow for figuring out what to auto-sync? | 14:59 |
cjwatson | Um, yeah | 14:59 |
cjwatson | >>> date(); len([(s.source_package_name, s.source_package_version) for s in quantal_sources]); date() | 14:59 |
cjwatson | Wed May 23 14:23:29 BST 2012 | 15:00 |
cjwatson | 19783 | 15:00 |
cjwatson | Wed May 23 14:36:31 BST 2012 | 15:00 |
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tumbleweed | cjwatson: aah, I thought you were just going to look at Sources.bz2 | 15:37 |
cjwatson | That's the next fallback; unfortunately it doesn't correspond well with what Launchpad's imported, in the case of Debian | 15:38 |
cjwatson | Which means that I need to concern myself with the case where somebody uploads something to unstable every six hours and we never sync it because Launchpad is always a bit behind Sources | 15:39 |
cjwatson | I guess I can use the Debian Sources file just for "is it newer", and the rest can come from what Launchpad has imported | 15:39 |
tumbleweed | that works | 15:42 |
geser | cjwatson: wouldn't it be enough to check only new published records (created_since_date) since the last run? or am I missing something? | 16:13 |
cjwatson | That might help if I knew when the last run was | 16:13 |
cjwatson | I mean, I do, but the script doesn't | 16:13 |
cjwatson | It's not necessarily always run by the same admin, for instance | 16:14 |
geser | can't the script save the date it got last run in some file? | 16:15 |
geser | hmm, that probably won't work if the AA run that script on their own machines, unless there is some common storage all AA can access | 16:17 |
vibhav | tumbleweed: ping | 16:32 |
tumbleweed | an overlap presumably wouldn't matter too much | 16:44 |
tumbleweed | vibhav: yup? | 16:44 |
vibhav | tumbleweed: Since I have not triaged any bugs, what do I write in my application to the bug control? | 16:46 |
tumbleweed | vibhav: if you haven't been triaging bugs, what do you need bugcontrol membership for? | 16:47 |
ScottK | You wait until you triage some bugs, I'd think. | 16:47 |
vibhav | tumbleweed: Nominating bugs for SRU | 16:48 |
jtaylor | I don't think bug control can do that anymore | 16:49 |
jtaylor | or was it bug squad where it was changed? | 16:49 |
vibhav | I think its still bug control | 16:53 |
ScottK | In any case, you need to do some triaging first. | 16:53 |
vibhav | ok | 16:55 |
PaoloRotolo | Salve | 17:07 |
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dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/1000356 anyone knows what bugreporter just means ? | 18:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1000356 in remmina (Ubuntu) "remmina/xfreerdp crashes while trying to use 'remote control'" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:50 |
dupondje | can't seem to simulate it | 18:50 |
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