[01:57] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu bandit5432 recommending PPA as first step, randomly saying RTFM, arguing its a good idea to do so, constant offtopic, claims can never remember the guidelines
[01:58] <bandit5432> hey i dont like being called out every time i join #ubuntu and try and help
[01:58] <bazhang> bandit5432, then dont breach the guidelines
[01:58] <bandit5432> bazhang, I didnt on the ppa
[01:59] <bandit5432> and i didnt know about the rtfm issue
[01:59] <bandit5432> i dont appreciate being scolded like a little kid
[01:59] <bazhang> bandit5432, your first step recommend was to install the transmission PPA
[01:59] <bandit5432> yes which i checked first to make sure was a where stable releases are made
[02:00] <bandit5432> by the transmission team
[02:00] <bazhang> bandit5432, and if you have spent any time at all in #ubuntu , you know that saying RTFM is never ok
[02:00] <bandit5432> sorry i thought i was being helpful
 sorry i forget all the rules when i join here
[02:01] <bandit5432> maybe saying hey dont say rtfm here please we frown on that might work a little better then saying so this or i kick you
[02:01] <bazhang> bandit5432, if you cannot remember them, then best to relearn them, so I linked you the guidelines.
[02:02] <bazhang> RTFM is *never* helpful
 bandit5432, and dont recommend PPa as a first choice
 bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO
[02:02] <bazhang> bandit5432, yes, and?
[02:03] <bandit5432> and the post that i s was refearing to in the frst place links to ppas
[02:03] <bandit5432> bandit5432, PPA are not supported, why recommend that first? in short, you Don't
[02:03] <bandit5432> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[02:03] <bazhang> bandit5432, if you are unwilling or unable to remember and/or follow the guidelines, you will be removed
[02:03] <bandit5432> says to install Boot-Repair from a ppa
[02:04] <bazhang> bandit5432, long before that you recommended the PPA for transmission as a First step fix.
[02:04] <bandit5432> bazhang, i still dont see where that is not an option in the guildlines
[02:04] <bazhang> bandit5432, PPA are not supported.
[02:05] <IdleOne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/SupportersGuide
[02:05] <IdleOne> PPA should be a last resort option AFTER everything else has been tried.
[02:06] <bandit5432> ok cool but was my recommending a stable ppa worth the kick warning?
[02:06] <bazhang> bandit5432, that was in regards to RTFM
[02:06] <bandit5432> no it was not
[02:07] <bandit5432> if it was it was very unclear
 read the funny manual is not allowed?
[02:07] <bazhang>  <bazhang> bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO
[02:07] <bazhang> very clear from the logs
[02:08] <bandit5432> bandit5432, dont ever say that here
[02:08] <bandit5432> * viking (~david@200.7.199.60) has joined #ubuntu
 xistancelaptop: what type of router do you have?
 read the funny manual is not allowed?
 bandit5432, and dont recommend PPa as a first choice
 DarwinSurvivor DIR-825.. I think
 bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO
[02:08] <IdleOne> clear to me that last line is a response to your question
[02:08] <bazhang> bandit5432, this is not a debate. follow the guidelines, it's simple
[02:09] <bandit5432> all am i asking and have asked here before is please be a little respectful of those of us trying to be helpful most of us are not trying to cause problems
[02:09] <bazhang> rtfm is not respectful at all.
[02:09] <IdleOne> bandit5432: all we are asking is that you please be respectful of our channel guidelines
[02:09] <bandit5432> IdleOne, sorry again didnt know that rtfm was out of the question wont use it again
[02:10] <IdleOne> there is a no cursing rule in the guidelines
[02:10] <bandit5432> and i wont offer ppas as a fix to people
[02:10] <IdleOne> rtfm is known to contain a swear word
[02:10] <bazhang> !rtfm | bandit5432
[02:12] <bandit5432> thanks for listing to me rant figured here would be better than in the main channel
[02:12] <IdleOne> So, are we all on the same page now?
[02:12] <IdleOne> bandit5432: that was a good choice to come here and discuss this :)
[02:13] <bandit5432> no i am going to go have a good cry and take some pain medicine
[02:13] <bandit5432> have fun tonight
[02:13] <IdleOne> sounds like a plan. Please remember when in ubuntu channels to keep it family friendly.
[02:14] <IdleOne> @mark #ubuntu bandit543 appears to understand the guidelines now, still has a not so great attitude
[03:19] <h00k> hi