=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:25] FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (sunitasethi appears to be flooding, but emergency mode is on) [01:57] @mark #ubuntu bandit5432 recommending PPA as first step, randomly saying RTFM, arguing its a good idea to do so, constant offtopic, claims can never remember the guidelines [01:57] The operation succeeded. [01:58] hey i dont like being called out every time i join #ubuntu and try and help [01:58] bandit5432, then dont breach the guidelines [01:58] bazhang, I didnt on the ppa [01:59] and i didnt know about the rtfm issue [01:59] i dont appreciate being scolded like a little kid [01:59] bandit5432, your first step recommend was to install the transmission PPA [01:59] yes which i checked first to make sure was a where stable releases are made [02:00] by the transmission team [02:00] bandit5432, and if you have spent any time at all in #ubuntu , you know that saying RTFM is never ok [02:00] sorry i thought i was being helpful [02:00] sorry i forget all the rules when i join here [02:01] maybe saying hey dont say rtfm here please we frown on that might work a little better then saying so this or i kick you [02:01] bandit5432, if you cannot remember them, then best to relearn them, so I linked you the guidelines. [02:02] RTFM is *never* helpful [02:02] bandit5432, and dont recommend PPa as a first choice [02:02] bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO [02:02] bandit5432, yes, and? [02:03] and the post that i s was refearing to in the frst place links to ppas [02:03] bandit5432, PPA are not supported, why recommend that first? in short, you Don't [02:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub [02:03] bandit5432, if you are unwilling or unable to remember and/or follow the guidelines, you will be removed [02:03] says to install Boot-Repair from a ppa [02:04] bandit5432, long before that you recommended the PPA for transmission as a First step fix. [02:04] bazhang, i still dont see where that is not an option in the guildlines [02:04] bandit5432, PPA are not supported. [02:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/SupportersGuide [02:05] PPA should be a last resort option AFTER everything else has been tried. [02:06] ok cool but was my recommending a stable ppa worth the kick warning? [02:06] bandit5432, that was in regards to RTFM [02:06] no it was not [02:07] if it was it was very unclear [02:07] read the funny manual is not allowed? [02:07] bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO [02:07] very clear from the logs [02:08] bandit5432, dont ever say that here [02:08] * viking (~david@200.7.199.60) has joined #ubuntu [02:08] xistancelaptop: what type of router do you have? [02:08] read the funny manual is not allowed? [02:08] bandit5432, and dont recommend PPa as a first choice [02:08] DarwinSurvivor DIR-825.. I think [02:08] bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO [02:08] clear to me that last line is a response to your question [02:08] bandit5432, this is not a debate. follow the guidelines, it's simple [02:09] all am i asking and have asked here before is please be a little respectful of those of us trying to be helpful most of us are not trying to cause problems [02:09] rtfm is not respectful at all. [02:09] bandit5432: all we are asking is that you please be respectful of our channel guidelines [02:09] IdleOne, sorry again didnt know that rtfm was out of the question wont use it again [02:10] there is a no cursing rule in the guidelines [02:10] and i wont offer ppas as a fix to people [02:10] rtfm is known to contain a swear word [02:10] !rtfm | bandit5432 [02:10] bandit5432: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. [02:12] thanks for listing to me rant figured here would be better than in the main channel [02:12] So, are we all on the same page now? [02:12] bandit5432: that was a good choice to come here and discuss this :) [02:13] no i am going to go have a good cry and take some pain medicine [02:13] have fun tonight [02:13] sounds like a plan. Please remember when in ubuntu channels to keep it family friendly. [02:14] @mark #ubuntu bandit543 appears to understand the guidelines now, still has a not so great attitude [02:14] The operation succeeded. [03:19] hi [12:39] In ubottu, escott said: !fdisk is We suggest you use sudo parted -l instead of sudo fdisk -l as fdisk cannot read GPT disks.