| jtatum | philipballew: it did? | 00:04 |
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| bkerensa | winner winner chicken dinner two bugs fixed in one merge proposal :D | 01:01 |
| DonkeyHotei | bkerensa: any chance in hell you could pick this up for me? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/syd/3021426258.html | 01:32 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: I will see... I just texted the guy he said something about meeting him outside Portland? For some reason he listed it in Portland even though he doesnt live here | 01:40 |
| DonkeyHotei | well, as long as it's convenient for both | 01:45 |
| philipballew | jtatum, yeah. A circuit breaker thing. I might just reinstall | 02:37 |
| wildintellect | is the mailing list archive on nabble? | 02:42 |
| DonkeyHotei | bkerensa: did he respond? | 03:48 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: yeah he said if i didn't meet him tonight that i c8old try to go out to beaver to meet him but he wouldn't guarantee to hold it | 04:17 |
| bkerensa | He said he had a possible offer in morning | 04:18 |
| DonkeyHotei | bkerensa: that was likely me | 04:56 |
| DonkeyHotei | make sure to mention that | 04:57 |
| MarkDude | This sounds like a Pink Panther movie.... | 04:58 |
| kdub | morning ubuntubers | 15:27 |
| akk | Any idea what happened to the perl plugin package for xchat in pangolin? | 16:43 |
| akk | I'm really missing one of my plugins since upgrading -- pangolin doesn't seem to have the Xchat perl module. | 16:44 |
| philipballew | So if when I was upgrading lucid to persice, the power shut off, is it just worth it to reinstall, or is there an easy way to fix it? | 18:43 |
| philipballew | Yeah, its kinda annoying | 18:44 |
| akk | Even though upgrades say DO NOT INTERRUPT, I think in the download portion it might be worth trying to restart it | 18:46 |
| akk | since it hasn't actually changed any packages yet, just downloaded files. | 18:46 |
| philipballew | well akk it did change the sources file from lucid to 12.04 already | 18:50 |
| philipballew | If i run do-release upgrade I do get a funky error. :) | 18:51 |
| akk | Ah, true. Maybe if you just apt-get dist-upgrade, then? | 18:51 |
| philipballew | Can I manually change the sources file back? | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | +1 akk, you don't want to run do-release-upgrade again, that'll try to upgrade it to quantal | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | (or fail entirely at this stage :)) | 18:52 |
| philipballew | its already saying: | 18:52 |
| philipballew | E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python2.7-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) | 18:52 |
| philipballew | whenever I do anything with apt-get | 18:52 |
| philipballew | I have read the man page for that as well | 18:53 |
| philipballew | if the sources.list file has already been changed, wont it try to upgrade to 12.04 no matter what? | 18:56 |
| akk | Editing sources.list to go back to lucid is certainly worth a try (save the current version somewhere in case the back-rev doesn't work). | 18:58 |
| philipballew | im going to try apt-get -f install && aptitude update && aptitude -y safe-upgrade and if that does not work look for the source file. | 19:01 |
| philipballew | maybe for kicks ill do it as root | 19:01 |
| * philipballew gives akk a big high five | 19:03 | |
| akk | yeah! | 19:03 |
| akk | Of course none of that would do much if you're not root. :) | 19:03 |
| philipballew | indeed. Ubuntu is not any less stable if I run things as root. (root as in #) ? | 19:05 |
| akk | I usually use root rather than sudo, myself. | 19:05 |
| philipballew | yeah, both are fine. The "debian way" is root | 19:07 |
| akk | I use sudo for apps I run a lot where I have myself listed as nopasswd in sudoers | 19:08 |
| akk | but for things like apt-get where I'll probably have to type multiple commands, I prefer root so I only have to type my passwd once. | 19:08 |
| philipballew | agreed, its just easier that way. | 19:09 |
| philipballew | I just do sudo su | 19:09 |
| akk | I have a root passwd on my own machines, but otherwise I do sudo bash (or sudo tcsh or sudo zsh). | 19:10 |
| akk | sudo su might make more sense | 19:10 |
| * philipballew loves zsh | 19:10 | |
| philipballew | there are so many ways to get things done on a Linux system. | 19:11 |
| akk | Yep, the beauty of linux! | 19:11 |
| akk | I've been pretty happy with zsh since I switched -- took a long time to turn off a few annoyances in the autocomplete | 19:12 |
| akk | and I still haven't figured out how to get it to ignore #, that's the only real annoyance left. | 19:12 |
| akk | so I can do things like grep whatever ~/.xchat/xchatlogs/Fre<tab>#ubu<tab>us<tab> | 19:12 |
| philipballew | zsh is something few use, because once you learn one shell, why learn a whole new way of doing things | 19:13 |
| philipballew | do any distros use zsh by default? not iirc. | 19:13 |
| akk | I used csh/tcsh for <mumble really big number> years, and only switched to zsh about a year ago. | 19:13 |
| philipballew | I like that | 19:14 |
| akk | Tried a couple times to switch to bash, but it has some really bad history bugs that I couldn't tolerate. | 19:14 |
| akk | But zsh seems to have most of the good features of both bash and csh. | 19:14 |
| akk | (Along with about a gazillion other features that would take a lifetime to learn -- it's the emacs of shells. :) | 19:15 |
| philipballew | emacs is crazy! | 19:19 |
| philipballew | Does anyone know of a place to find a default 10.04 sources.list file? | 19:20 |
| philipballew | hey look! http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ | 19:21 |
| akk | Cool! | 19:22 |
| akk | What a good idea. | 19:22 |
| philipballew | probably a doog idea do do a dpkg reconfigure and apt get -f and what not | 19:26 |
| philipballew | *good | 19:26 |
| raevol | philipballew: now putting winxp on a virtual machine to run ms office | 19:51 |
| bkerensa | >.< | 20:01 |
| bkerensa | why run ms office? | 20:01 |
| DonkeyHotei | bkerensa: any news on that battery? | 20:04 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: no response this morning | 20:04 |
| raevol | bkerensa: my work :( | 20:06 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: apparently he does some sort of driving for a living because he told me yesterday its kind of a hit or miss thing... I have to be ready to hop whenever is good for him | 20:07 |
| bkerensa | I think he commutes between Gresham/Troutdale and Beaverton | 20:07 |
| DonkeyHotei | ok | 20:07 |
| bkerensa | on another note I hear Lubuntu is dying pretty fast? | 20:08 |
| DonkeyHotei | not what they said at uds, but then, you were there | 20:09 |
| bkerensa | yeah this happened more recent | 20:09 |
| bkerensa | people have resigned | 20:09 |
| bkerensa | and there was a blow up on their mailing list and irc | 20:09 |
| DonkeyHotei | :( | 20:14 |
| raevol | ok virtualbox seamless mode is the nuttiest thing of my life | 20:21 |
| DonkeyHotei | then don't use it | 20:25 |
| raevol | no i mean that in a good way | 20:33 |
| DonkeyHotei | oh | 20:35 |
| DonkeyHotei | personally, i find it annoying | 20:36 |
| raevol | it's great for me because i need to jump back and forth between tasks on my host and guest | 20:38 |
| raevol | i would guess that a user's mileage with it would depend a lot on their use case | 20:38 |
| philipballew | I wonder if wine runs it well | 22:18 |
| raevol | philipballew: i intend to try to get it working in wine, but on my first try it fails terribly | 22:20 |
| philipballew | what version of ms offics? | 22:22 |
| philipballew | also, id try upstream wine, | 22:22 |
| philipballew | Attemting upgrade to 12.04 again!!! | 22:27 |
| philipballew | bkerensa, How can Lubuntu die when Its my distro! | 22:56 |
| bkerensa | simple? Everyone gets in big fight and resigns? | 22:57 |
| bkerensa | https://plus.google.com/117485690627814051450/posts/4fR1Xgayf5R | 22:57 |
| philipballew | The Internet is a easy place to get feelings hurt. | 22:57 |
| * philipballew sees his time to shine and take the lead | 22:58 | |
| bkerensa | heh | 22:58 |
| philipballew | Maybe Ill stay on Squeeze for a while with the desktop | 22:59 |
| philipballew | im 50 percent lxde 50 percent gnome. Though all run gtk | 23:01 |
| philipballew | raevol, hows the vm going? | 23:05 |
| raevol | decent | 23:05 |
| raevol | well | 23:05 |
| raevol | the VM is great | 23:05 |
| philipballew | If you want, you can try cross over as well | 23:05 |
| raevol | this order management software we are using is terribad | 23:05 |
| philipballew | or reactos if you feel like hacking | 23:05 |
| raevol | eh | 23:05 |
| philipballew | vmware or virtualbox? | 23:07 |
| raevol | virtualbox | 23:08 |
| raevol | ose | 23:08 |
| raevol | from the repos | 23:08 |
| raevol | AS LAZY AS POSSIBLE | 23:08 |
| raevol | (while not running windows) | 23:08 |
| raevol | (on metal)( | 23:08 |
| philipballew | I would not recommend a bare metal windows install | 23:13 |
| raevol | me either | 23:14 |
| raevol | thus the VM | 23:14 |
| philipballew | What ms office program do you need to run? | 23:15 |
| philipballew | excel or access or something like that? | 23:15 |
| kdub | juju install windows? | 23:16 |
| philipballew | might get some geek cred if you write tht | 23:18 |
| philipballew | They say Charms can be written in any Language. I am still looking for a more obscure language to write one in just for kicks. | 23:19 |
| kdub | philipballew: try golang, its my favorite 'new' language | 23:19 |
| philipballew | funny that I had to google it to see what it is. | 23:20 |
| kdub | great concurrency model :D | 23:20 |
| raevol | philipballew: need to run word and excel, and then a crappy order management software that runs in access | 23:21 |
| raevol | funny story: the order manager runs faster in WinXP in VirtualBox in Ubuntu than it did in WinXP "Mode" in Windows 7 | 23:21 |
| philipballew | Scumbag Oracle | 23:21 |
| raevol | virtualbox-ose | 23:22 |
| raevol | yay it's fun having pidgin and irc at work again :D | 23:24 |
| philipballew | aint no party like an IRC party! | 23:28 |
| philipballew | Holla!!! | 23:28 |
| philipballew | I think im going to make a terminal pluggin to play action songs whenever I do anything cool from it. | 23:32 |
| kdub | philipballew: did you apply for summer of code? | 23:43 |
| philipballew | Did not make it. Next year I will be. applying as well kdub | 23:47 |
| philipballew | not sure what project | 23:48 |
| philipballew | kdub, Birdrock good these days? | 23:51 |
| kdub | sure, same as always :D | 23:55 |
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