[02:16] <rick_h_> greg-g: woot! lit up like a christmas tree
[02:17] <rick_h_> get a ton of looks, but really like riding at night
[02:37] <brousch> i would poop my pants every time a car went by
[02:43] <rick_h_> hah, actually was pretty nice
[02:44] <rick_h_> freaked out one biker who pulled to the side as I came towards her
[02:44] <rick_h_> kind of hard to miss the blinking thing with twin  beams coming at ya
[02:57] <brousch> i'm slightly drunk. can someone check this to make sure it's not total crap? http://paste.mitechie.com/show/675/
[02:58] <greg-g> rick_h_: hah! nice
[02:59] <greg-g> brousch: on a school night?
[02:59] <brousch> eh?
[02:59] <greg-g> drunk
[03:01] <brousch> yeah, turns out this beer i drank is 9% alcohol
[03:01] <brousch> at least i'm  at home
[03:03] <greg-g> brousch: oh nice, founders?
[03:04] <brousch> brewery vivant
[03:04] <jjesse> mmmm brewery vivant
[03:04] <jjesse> was there last night for a work thing
[03:04] <jjesse> and my hard cider mug was never empty
[03:04] <jjesse> i think i had 8?
[03:04] <brousch> http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24678/71402
[03:05] <jjesse> ah i heard that was great
[03:05] <jjesse> damn my gluten alergy
[03:05] <brousch> pretty good
[03:05] <brousch> 9% ki9cks my butt
[03:06] <greg-g> oooo, a saison, love those
[03:06] <jjesse> brousch,  did you do a meeting there?
[03:06] <brousch> no, it is a can i bought
[03:06] <jjesse> ah nice :)
[11:27] <rick_h_> uhggg, the soreness is strong
[11:34] <shakes808> Good morning
[11:39] <rick_h_> party
[11:39] <rick_h_> reminder CHC tonight
[11:41] <shakes808> +1 will be there.
[11:41] <shakes808> I usually get there early. I go right after work
[11:41] <shakes808> Do we have the room yet?
[11:42] <rick_h_> party on, more hacking time
[11:43] <shakes808> I am slowly getting through that tut. I am on step 5 now, making templates. I keep having problems forgetting to start the venv lol I think I have that memorized now lol. :D
[11:56] <snap-l> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/1593/detail/
[11:57] <rick_h_> shakes808: awesome, repeat is good for you
[11:57] <shakes808> yeaup :D
[11:59] <shakes808> snap-l: on that loco.ubuntu link, the FB like and count box is shaking lol almost like it is a kid who knows the answer "OH! OH! OH! PICK ME! PICK ME!"
[11:59] <shakes808> lol
[12:03] <brousch> i don't see shaking
[12:23] <shakes808> I took a video with my phone. working on getting a link to it
[12:23] <brousch> put it in your dropbox public folder
[12:23] <brousch> or ubuntuone, if you swing that way.
[12:24] <shakes808> lol I am at work, haven't fully got into the UbuntuOne thing. I think I set it up. Dropbox it is ;) hold on
[12:27] <shakes808> it is an mp4, on Windows box at work brought it up in QuickTime. Not sure what others are using or what mp4 is compatible with. I can't change the format of the file that my phone takes. :(
[12:27] <shakes808> it is about 1/3 uploaded
[12:29] <brousch> wow, smoothest bug report ever! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloudprint/+bug/1003390
[12:29] <brousch> found the package, added bug, off it went.
[12:30] <shakes808> Went up on google docs faster :D https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwyEnz3QXUWfdHJYdmNVNG9Xd1U
[12:30] <brousch> freakish
[12:31] <shakes808> lol
[12:31] <shakes808> yeah, IE for ya ;)
[12:31] <brousch> you poor, poor man
[12:32] <shakes808> Doesn't happen in Chrome
[12:32] <shakes808> IE needs to go away
[12:32] <shakes808> or get better lol
[12:33] <shakes808> The compatibility for IE v EVERY OTHER browser is horrid in about 80% of newer conventions of CSS and JS
[12:33] <shakes808> That is one thing I don't like about web dev.
[12:34] <shakes808> making things IE compatible v Chrome/FF/Safari... capatible lol
[12:35] <brousch> rick_h_ says you're doing it wrong. go read more YUI docs
[12:35] <shakes808> HA HA
[12:44] <snap-l> shakes808: It's by design. I think all Facebook buttons shake
[12:44] <snap-l> like the ol' punch the monkey banner ads
[12:45] <brousch> only IE supports the <vibrate> tag
[12:52] <shakes808> lol
[13:16] <jcastro> rick_h_: snap-l what kind of microphones do you guys use for your podcast?
[13:17] <rick_h_> jcastro: snap-l  uses a snowball and I use an audio technica AT2020
[13:19] <rick_h_> jcastro: oh sorry, I upgraded to the at 2035
[13:19] <jcastro> ah, I was thinking about a snowball
[13:19] <rick_h_> I think he dreams up upgrading to the yeti
[13:20] <rick_h_> so I'd start there if you were going fresh
[13:23] <jcastro> ooh that looks nice
[13:23] <rick_h_> yea, think it's an upgraded snowball
[13:23] <jcastro> do you have like a fancy arm for yours
[13:23] <rick_h_> yea
[13:24] <jjesse> for all the webcasts and videos i do at work i use a snowball
[13:24] <rick_h_> nice for swinging in for stand ups, out of the wya when done
[13:24] <jjesse> as the mic
[13:24] <jcastro> oh dude, it has a headphone output right on it
[13:24] <jcastro> SOLD
[13:24] <rick_h_> jcastro: https://plus.google.com/photos/fromphone/5730219334788248274 can you see that?
[13:25] <jcastro> nope
[13:25] <snap-l> I love the snowball mic, but I'd love to play with the Yeti sometime
[13:25] <snap-l> just to see if it sounds better
[13:26] <rick_h_> jcastro: shared the pic with you on G+
[13:26] <jcastro> this is for G+ and Google On Air! things
[13:26] <jcastro> so it really just needs to be better  than the built in mic on my camera
[13:26] <rick_h_> yea, not hard
[13:26] <jcastro> yeti is a nice price too
[13:26] <snap-l> Snowball will get you that in spades
[13:26] <jcastro> should I get a pop filter thing?
[13:26] <rick_h_> jcastro: you just try a noise cancelling BT headset?
[13:26] <rick_h_> I did that for a G+ hangout at the coffee shop the other day
[13:26] <jcastro> snap-l: snowball looks like it needs a stand
[13:27] <rick_h_> wonder if that would just sound nice
[13:27] <snap-l> jcastro: it comes with a desk stand
[13:27] <jcastro> rick_h_: no more BT for me, that tech can die in a fire
[13:27] <rick_h_> hah
[13:27] <snap-l> jcastro: BT is great, when it works
[13:27] <jcastro> snap-l: is there a headphone plug on it too?
[13:27] <snap-l> jcastro: No
[13:27] <jcastro> damn
[13:28] <snap-l> It just has a USB port on the back, as well as a directional switch
[13:28] <snap-l> I've actually taken it apart. It's pretty solid inside
[13:28] <jcastro> the yeti has a headphone jack, I'd need that, now that I take my layout into account
[13:28] <jcastro> (my computer is under my desk)
[13:28] <snap-l> jcastro: You won't hurt my feelings one iota if you get a Yeti
[13:28] <rick_h_> jcastro: other thing is to just run a cable
[13:28] <rick_h_> I'm going to run a headphone extender and mount it under the front of hte standing desk
[13:29] <jcastro> snap-l: we're gearheads, I can't buy the same model as you, I have to go further!
[13:29] <snap-l> just understand that what you're hearing in the headphone jack might not be 100% what is getting fed to the computer
[13:29] <jcastro> well I was thinking so I didn't need to use external speakers during a call
[13:29] <snap-l> I think the headphone jack is just for the mic
[13:29] <snap-l> not for the computer
[13:30] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, I plug into my laptop itself, but want to run a a real line from the doc and mountit right under the lip of the desktop as an easy plug point
[13:30] <jcastro> that's a good idea for when I move and have a more permanent desk
[13:30] <snap-l> Oh, it is a two-way
[13:30] <snap-l> n/m me then
[13:31] <jcastro> where did you find that?
[13:31] <snap-l> http://the-gadgeteer.com/2010/08/11/blue_yeti_mic/
[13:31] <snap-l> jcastro: Normal caveats of pulseaudio apply.
[13:32] <jcastro> right, I haven't investigated that yet
[13:33] <jcastro> the only bummer is I like to type when I talk
[13:33] <jcastro> and there's really no way around that other than a headset
[13:33] <snap-l> jcastro: If you had a quiet keyboard, you wouldn't have a problem with that. :)
[13:33] <rick_h_> yea, why I like the mic on an arm
[13:33] <jcastro> rick_h_: ah ok, so I can eventually get an arm
[13:34] <jcastro> oh hey guys, I'm home this weekend
[13:34] <rick_h_> can move it away from the keyboard, mic right in the mouth kind of thing
[13:34] <jcastro> if you guys want to do shit on friday lmk
[13:34] <snap-l> Yeah,, even the snowball can be put on an arm
[13:34] <rick_h_> jcastro: dude!
[13:34] <snap-l> jcastro: Totally
[13:34] <jcastro> I was going to go hang out with aaron and the other guys
[13:34] <jcastro> this is our short trip but we'll be back a few weeks after
[13:35] <jcastro> rick_h_: you use headphones too right?
[13:35] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea
[13:36] <snap-l> I don't when we're on the call, and I have no problems with feedback
[13:36] <jcastro> hey if you're on an arm, and the speakers are behind the mic, can you get away w/o headphones?
[13:36] <jcastro> for calls I mean, not like, podcasts.
[13:36] <snap-l> at least none that I'm aware of.
[13:36] <jcastro> ah good good
[13:36] <rick_h_> jcastro: no idea, just haven't tried it
[13:37] <snap-l> I usually have things down pretty lown, though, so YMMV
[13:37] <snap-l> if your calls sound like you're standing in front of the MCP, it might have feedback issues.
[13:38] <jcastro> heh
[13:39] <jcastro> I need to find a better way to do audio in my office
[13:39] <jcastro> I think I need to bite the bullet and get a receiver
[13:39] <jcastro> too many inputs
[13:39] <snap-l> jcastro: Come back to Michigan. We have less echo
[13:39] <jcastro> we're coming back so she can interview
[13:39] <jcastro> so yeah, probably
[13:40] <snap-l> (hope hope hope)
[13:40] <snap-l> lmk where we can send the bribery
[13:40] <jcastro> she has two interviews this week
[13:40] <jcastro> one for Ann Arbor
[13:40] <jcastro> one for Birmingham
[13:41] <snap-l> I can't afford birmingham
[13:41] <jcastro> and if you could, would you?
[13:41] <jcastro> I'd prefer to live outside of it
[13:41]  * jcastro is partial to Rochester Hills
[13:41] <snap-l> I mean t to send bribes
[13:41] <jcastro> oh
[13:43] <snap-l> Hardest part about Birmingham is navigating around black cadillacs driven by women who can barely see over the sterring wheel, and are determined to take that parking spot.
[13:44] <jcastro> I just hate richers </southpark>
[13:49] <snap-l> I <3 that the expense report (in Excel) and receipts (electronically delivered) for software and ebooks (electronically delivered) has to be printed and physically signed.
[13:50] <snap-l> made sure to use the fountain pen to sign it. :)
[13:52] <brousch> Another good deal on a 120GB SSD http://goo.gl/H63jX
[13:52] <jcastro> rick_h_: I am disappoint on the new Thinkpads
[13:52] <jcastro> was hoping the X1 would be smaller
[13:52] <jcastro> I want an ultrabook now
[13:52] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, I didn't get that
[13:52] <jcastro> but a proper thinkpad
[13:53] <rick_h_> I'm going to get the x230 and give it a shot
[13:53] <jcastro> the X230 looks awesome
[13:53] <rick_h_> I've heard ok things about the keybaord change
[13:53] <jcastro> but man, it's the same laptop I have now
[13:53] <rick_h_> it's my upgrade come june
[13:53] <jcastro> nice
[13:53] <jcastro> My 220 is falling apart
[13:53] <jcastro> so I'm close
[13:53] <rick_h_> you currently have i7 gen 3 with 8gb of ram/
[13:53] <jcastro> I like the thinkpad chiclet, it's the one thing I miss from the X120e I sold snap-l
[13:53] <rick_h_> heh, my 201 is cooking string, thinking if seeing if hte wife wants it
[13:53] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, the prices have come down dramatically. Was looking at Best Buy, and they had similar Intel models pretty cheap
[13:53] <rick_h_> ok, well I'm nervous, but will hold out hope
[13:53] <jcastro> I have an x220i, it's an i3 with 4gb of RAM
[13:54] <jcastro> I don't need like, i7's and stuff, I use the cloud. :)
[13:54] <snap-l> I love the keyboard on the X120e
[13:54] <snap-l> rick_h_: If you want to try it at CHC tonight, LMK
[13:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: you don't have to run launchpad tests :P
[13:54] <jcastro> indeed
[13:54] <rick_h_> but yea, I'm just hoping the kernel is precise is ready
[13:54] <rick_h_> I don't want to have to do quantal too early because of drivers
[13:54] <rick_h_> :/
[13:55] <snap-l> rick_h_: That's usually why I hang back on new hardware
[13:55] <snap-l> I hate arrows, and the view from behind is pretty nice.
[13:55] <rick_h_> yea, but I'm eager for upgrade, it's a double edge sword. with the 2 dozen launchpad ppas I need to worry about ugh
[13:56] <rick_h_> it's either that or I do go desktop, but then I know I'll regret going back to two full machines again
[13:57] <snap-l> Get a beefy SSH box. ;)
[13:57] <brousch> i buy 2 or 3 year old machines
[13:57] <jcastro> you'll be fine on all the new thinkpads with precise
[13:57] <jcastro> ivy bridge runs awesome ootb all across the board
[13:58] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, hoping that's the case
[13:58] <jcastro> no it's the case, it's all certified already
[13:58]  * jcastro has been following with the hardware enablement guys
[13:58] <rick_h_> nice, in that case "take my $$ lenovo!"
[13:58] <jcastro> indeed
[13:58] <jcastro> he couldn't really tell me at first
[13:59] <jcastro> but it was like "wait until April wink wink"
[13:59] <rick_h_> june is what's been reported, start of june
[13:59] <rick_h_> review time just finished up at a good time :)
[14:03] <snap-l> btw: We updated the MUG site last night
[14:03] <snap-l> http://www.mug.org/membership/
[14:04] <snap-l> Yes, there is actually information on how to join. AMAZING!
[14:05] <rick_h_> lol
[14:05] <rick_h_> going all professional...what have you done to my MUG?
[14:05] <snap-l> rick_h_: Pretty soon you'll get electronic invoices for membership
[14:05] <brousch> you need a new logo
[14:06] <snap-l> No more spending $100 on postage
[14:06] <snap-l> brousch: We have one, but we need to find the files
[14:06] <snap-l> MUG has been around 25 years
[14:06] <snap-l> Hoping to get a presentation on the history of MUG at some point
[14:07] <rick_h_> hah, cool idea
[14:08] <snap-l> WEll, we have this amazing history that only a few members know about
[14:09] <jrwren> wtf is brewery vivant?
[14:09] <shakes808> snap-l: LOL got the paypal stuff up on there now :D
[14:09]  * jrwren is reading the log, can you tell?
[14:10] <jrwren> zomg, GR brewery I didn't know about.
[14:10] <snap-l> shakes808: I can neither confirm or deny that you helped aid that.
[14:10] <shakes808> Soon :D
[14:10] <shakes808> HA HA
[14:10] <rick_h_> jrwren: you weren't there man...you wouldn't understand :P
[14:10] <brousch> jrwren: a newish microbrewery in GR http://www.breweryvivant.com/
[14:10] <brousch> it's maybe 2 years old?
[14:10] <brousch> it's in an old church
[14:11] <snap-l> All of the good breweries and restaurants are.
[14:12] <shakes808> That looks nice
[14:12] <shakes808> But here is where I go
[14:12] <shakes808> http://www.dragonmead.com/
[14:13] <brousch> wow, hook them up with a new website
[14:17] <shakes808> I have thought about it
[14:17] <shakes808> lol
[14:18] <shakes808> maybe when I get a little better with the python stuff, I can experiment on it :D ;)
[14:19] <brousch> even Shmohz's site is better, and it's a hole in the wall http://schmohz.com/
[14:19] <shakes808> I am going to mess around with my other live site when I get my python skillz honed better as well
[14:21] <shakes808> brousch: that site is a wordpress site. Dragon Mead's site looks like it was made from scratch.
[14:21] <rick_h_> you guys check out the google doodle?
[14:21] <rick_h_> I imagine that's where snap-l disappeared to
[14:22] <jrwren> jcastro: YAY FOR COMING BACK!
[14:22] <jrwren> jcastro: pick ann arbor. There is much better beer here.
[14:23] <shakes808> n00b question, if I build a computer, could I load iOS?L
[14:24] <jrwren> shakes808: dragonmead is nice.
[14:24] <shakes808> jrwren: Jolly Pumpkin's is delicious :D
[14:24] <shakes808> haha
[14:27] <brousch> shakes808: you can build what's called a hackintosh and load OSX on it, but that's not really legal. as far as i know you can't load iOS on anything except what apple has blessed
[14:28] <shakes808> That is what I thought
[14:28] <shakes808> Thank you
[14:29] <shakes808> a buddy was asking and that is about what I said to him, wanted confirmation
[14:46] <snap-l> rick_h_: har har
[14:47] <snap-l> shakes808: I think you mean MacOSX
[14:47] <rick_h_> oh come on, you're not recording some tunes?
[14:47] <snap-l> rick_h_: I already have software synths. :)
[14:47] <shakes808> yeah, all the same lol Apple
[14:47] <shakes808> lol
[14:47] <snap-l> but yeah, this is an awesome doodle
[14:48] <rick_h_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rot9uaVO8s&feature=player_embedded speaking of awesome
[14:49] <shakes808> On America's Got Talent over the weekend there was something like this
[14:53] <snap-l> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9eliSCvq0U&feature=related
[14:55] <shakes808> That is really cool
[14:55] <rick_h_> yea, love that punch sequence
[14:55] <greg-g> rick_h_: thanks for that :)
[14:56] <rick_h_> greg-g: I'm on my 3rd viewing, so awesome
[14:57] <rick_h_> after this I'll get back to work, promise!
[14:57] <snap-l> heh
[14:58] <greg-g> rick_h_: yeah, I have this grant proposal to right today, but that was a good way to start the day
[14:58] <greg-g> right? write
[14:58] <greg-g> wow, good thing I'm not the last pass :)
[14:58] <rick_h_> hah
[15:05] <jrwren> brousch: what is "illegal" about hackintosh.
[15:05] <jrwren> A: nothing, but you break a EULA (which is no "illegal")
[15:07] <brousch> fine
[15:07] <brousch> sorry, should have been more pedantic in my response
[15:10] <brousch> the google doodle killed my laptop's midi
[15:10] <brousch> played 1 note, scratch, now nothing
[15:16] <jrwren> rick_h_: do you import logging and then logger=logging.getLogger(__name__) and then logger.info(..) in many of your modules?
[15:17] <greg-g> define illegal: if it is against the EULA, then it is illegal (see definition #2: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal )
[15:17] <jrwren> specifically do you do so in django views so you can observe runtime behavior?
[15:17] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea
[15:17] <rick_h_> jrwren: oh, in django views...not sure on that yet
[15:18] <rick_h_> we don't have logging setup right in our current thing atm
[15:18] <rick_h_> jrwren: if it's dev/etc I tend to use ipdb
[15:18] <rick_h_> logging is just for...well loggging
[15:18] <jrwren> well, if you didn't do django, I'd be asking about your pylons controllers nad views.
[15:18] <rick_h_> so yea, I do some logging if it's important, warning/info level
[15:18] <rick_h_> or running a test, and I go back and check teh logs
[15:18] <jrwren> I'm thinking more QA/Prod
[15:18] <rick_h_> but generally not really, logging can be expensive, disk access, etc
[15:18] <jrwren> I'd like to be able to answer questions when my users say "such and such happened..>"
[15:19] <jrwren> off by default of course :)
[15:19] <rick_h_> that stuff should generally should go more into an external app like sentry/etc
[15:19] <jrwren> how does that work?
[15:19] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, so I think my answer is yes
[15:19] <rick_h_> jrwren: basically ships the data off to a sync call to a web service
[15:19] <rick_h_> and then you can monitor/aggregate across installs, do searching/etc
[15:19] <jrwren> ah, interesing
[15:20] <rick_h_> https://github.com/dcramer/sentry
[15:21] <rick_h_> so say you run 3 app servers, they report to a single sentry you monitor
[15:22] <rick_h_> jrwren: so beware logging, anything you do in that logging is run
[15:22] <rick_h_> so if you format a string, etc, it's called even if hte logging is off
[15:22] <jrwren> yup, was already there reading :)
[15:22] <rick_h_> the .debug/info/etc is still a function call that runs
[15:22] <jrwren> and the string formatting and expense case is the same as .NET :)
[15:22] <rick_h_> ok, yea so you can hurt yourself if you do stuff like log.debug(someexpensivefunction())
[15:22] <jrwren> right.
[15:22] <rick_h_> right, but you might log more than a string
[15:22] <rick_h_> yea
[15:23] <jrwren> i had sent a patch to log4net that took llambdas
[15:23] <jrwren> log.debug( lambda: someexpsnsivefunction())
[15:23] <rick_h_> ah, nice
[15:23] <jrwren> and the imple of debug checks if logging is on and if not doesn't execute
[15:23] <jrwren> even less typing in C# cuz the lambda: becomes()=>
[15:23] <jrwren> ha, less characters, more keystrocks cuz of all teh SHIFT
[15:24] <jrwren> wow, my typing is terrible. appologies.
[15:38] <jrwren> anyone know the story behind dhclient logging to syslog verbosely by defualt?
[15:38] <jrwren> or has it always been that way and I just didn't know it?
[15:38] <snap-l> verbosely as in logging every time it hiccups?
[15:38] <snap-l> That's been like that for a few releases no
[15:39] <snap-l> at least it's been that way on my 11.04 machine
[15:39] <snap-l> Can't remember precisely when it changed.
[15:45] <brousch> jcastro? http://wtfcontent.com/img/133350120446.jpg
[15:53] <snap-l> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Representative-Table.aspx
[16:04] <devinheitmuell-1> snap-l: I wonder what happens if somebody specifies month "NULL".
[16:04] <devinheitmuell-1> :-)
[16:07] <snap-l> Or if soemone enters muerte";drop table dates;
[16:08]  * devinheitmuell-1 thinks of "Little Bobby Tables"
[16:08] <snap-l> a-yep
[16:08] <devinheitmuell-1> xkcd.com/327/
[17:28] <brousch> there is 1 comment http://www.mlive.com/opinion/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/05/question_of_the_day_how_can_gr.html
[17:29] <rick_h_> crap, forgot the headphones at the coffee shop again :/
[17:30] <snap-l> Might have someone else coming to CHC tonight
[17:30] <rick_h_> cool
[17:30] <rick_h_> who you wrangling up?
[17:30] <devinheitmuell-1> I miss CHC.  :-(
[17:31] <snap-l> The founder of Olark.com
[17:31] <rick_h_> I still don't think we have the room, but maybe
[17:31] <rick_h_> oh yea? awesome. I know some of those guys
[17:31] <rick_h_> steiza/etc
[17:31] <rick_h_> good guys, on my backup list when I joined canonical
[17:31] <snap-l> Yeah, Ben Congleton
[17:31] <rick_h_> nice
[17:36] <greg-g> Ben? he's an SI grad
[17:36] <greg-g> (the school I attended there)
[17:45] <snap-l> Yeah, Mouly sent him my way.
[17:46] <snap-l> Ann Arbor: The Silicon Valley of the mitten state
[17:47] <greg-g> MOULY!
[17:47] <greg-g> I still have one of Moul's books, heh
[17:47] <greg-g> Mouly, that is
[17:48] <snap-l> Yeah, he wondered if I remembered him
[17:48] <snap-l> Nobody forgets Mouly
[17:50] <snap-l> Also, is it just me, or has the inclusion of Lucia pretty much made KMFDM albums the same?
[17:51] <snap-l> Seriously, I used to wait patiently for nw albums, now I couldn't care less.
[17:52] <snap-l> http://www.metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/metallica-cant-live-off-their-royalties-anymore?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+metalinjection+%28Metal+Injection+%3A%3A+Latest+Updates%29
[18:03] <nixternal> Host 'CaboWabo', running Linux 3.2.0-24-generic - Cpu0: Intel 2327 MHz Cpu1: Intel 2327 MHz Cpu2: Intel 2327 MHz Cpu3: Intel 2327 MHz; Up: 11d+18:15; Users: 1; Load: 1.32; Free: [Mem: 133/1994 Mio] [Swap: 2036/2036 Mio] [/: 216089/235910 Mio] [/boot: 189/228 Mio]; Vpenis: 113.1 cm;
[18:03] <nixternal> reboot time. damn kernel upgrades
[18:06] <greg-g> 11days uptime with a 113cm penis?
[18:07] <snap-l> Apparently those e-mails really do work
[18:08] <greg-g> even cumulatively
[18:09] <jjesse> nnWOW
[18:09] <jjesse> wow
[18:10] <snap-l> I love the judge in the Google / Oracle trial
[18:11] <snap-l> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57439320-38/oracle-google-jury-stymied-by-more-technical-questions/
[18:14] <devinheitmuell-1> snap-l: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/05/google-v-oracle-no-patent-infringement-found/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
[18:14] <devinheitmuell-1> Google v. Oracle: no patent infringement found
[18:18] <greg-g> weee
[18:25] <snap-l> That makes me very, very happy
[18:26] <snap-l> Now if we can get the API issue out of the way
[18:26] <snap-l> I'm so happy we got a programming judge
[18:26] <snap-l> plus he laid into the lawyers for essentially muddying up the waters
[19:10] <jrwren> snap-l: KMFDM has been pretty generic for 15 yrs.
[19:15] <snap-l> jrwren: Yeah, I got bored during WWIII
[19:15] <snap-l> Haven't really picked up much since then
[19:20] <snap-l> Actually, my frined got me Hau Ruck for Christmas one year
[19:34] <brousch> what did i do to deserve this? "@rails_apps is now following you on Twitter"
[19:40] <jrwren> i still like nihil and the one before it.
[19:41] <jrwren> wtf is the one with light and drug against war?
[19:45] <brousch> sadness http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/2012/05/23/djangobook-schluss.html
[19:55] <jrwren> :(
[19:56] <jrwren> django needs a new book.
[19:56] <jrwren> most are very old.
[19:56] <jrwren> I've got a 1.1 and a 1.0
[19:56] <jrwren> and i'm targetting 1.2 :(
[20:10] <brousch> heh, and 1.4 is current
[21:01] <snap-l> jrwren: Angst
[22:09] <waldo323_> is there a location for deprecated repos? looking to upgrade a machine from jaunty up to present but the jaunty repos are gone
[22:14] <greg-g> old-releases.ubuntu.com I believe
[22:14] <greg-g> waldo323_: ^
[22:14] <waldo323_> thanks