[00:07] <knome> mekazu, try running xfwm4
[00:10] <mekazu> xfwm4xasfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfx4wm4
[00:10] <mekazu> whoops, there you go, no window switching
[00:10] <rbrt> hm
[00:14] <mekazu> thanks, using xfwm4 --daemon worked. Obviously the window manager wasn't loading
[00:15] <mekazu> Not sure if that's a bug I can submit. It's replicable, but I suppose somebody would want to see a stacktrace
[00:15] <mekazu> and I don't know where to look for the logs
[00:22] <gurrag> Any reason why Xubuntu on Dell Mini 1018 with Synaptics touchpad/driver would be sending spurious middle clicks?
[03:18] <sly4tehwin> hi i neeed some assistance!
[06:55] <bazhang> !panels
[06:56] <khayyim> I just used xkill on the taskbar on accident.... how do I get taskbars back?
[06:56] <bazhang> see above
[06:56] <khayyim> oh hi
[06:56] <chelz> bazhang: psychic :o
[06:56] <bazhang> chelz, or in another channel :)
[06:56] <khayyim> Ding! fixed
[06:56] <khayyim> Thanks
[07:25]  * Marzata blue-tooth applet crashed again...
[07:57] <Jonne_> upgraded to 4.10, i have 2 issues
[07:57] <Jonne_> how do i make compiz start up automatically again
[07:57] <Jonne_> and why are all my panel items aligned to the left?
[07:58] <bazhang> 4.10?
[07:58] <bazhang> the ppa for xfce4.10?
[07:58] <Jonne_> yes
[07:58] <bazhang> contact the ppa maintainer
[07:59] <Jonne_> was hoping someone here would know these things
[07:59] <bazhang> since ppa are not supported, contact the maintainer, file bugs
[08:04] <sankey> Jonne_: regarding the panels on the left, i think you just need to enable some "auto expand" option/separator (which really should be the default)
[08:05] <sankey> it's just a matter of bad defaults
[08:06] <Jonne_> adding the seperator worked
[08:06] <Jonne_> tnx
[08:06] <sankey> also, between 4.8 and 4.10, the "window buttons" applet no longer auto-expands
[08:07] <sankey> it really isn't supposed to...that's what the separator is for
[08:07] <sankey> so with 4.10 you have more control
[08:07] <sankey> control over spacing and such
[08:07] <Jonne_> the compiz thing is weird, it's in my automatic startup thing, but it starts without window decorations (or anything, really)
[08:07] <Jonne_> i can get around this easily by just starting compiz myself
[08:08] <Jonne_> just wondering what the 'proper' way is
[08:08] <sankey> Jonne_: what exactly did you add to the auto start?
[08:09] <sankey> i think you just need to add the compiz tray icon
[08:10] <Jonne_> compiz --replace
[08:28] <sankey> Jonne_: if you want to do it that way, i think you need to just start the "fusion-icon"
[08:29] <sankey> but that first loads xfwm, then compiz (but you only need compiz)
[08:29] <Jonne_> i don't care how it's done, as long as it works :p
[08:29] <sankey> basically it's just slower
[08:29] <sankey> you could do it this way too: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz#Xfce_autostart_.28without_.22fusion-icon.22.29
[08:29] <Jonne_> i'll try fusion-icon
[08:30] <sankey> that's how i did it (with fusion-icon)
[08:30] <sankey> i never restarted my computer, so it didn't matter much
[08:46] <Jonne_> i apparently already have the xfce4-session.xml set up as mentioned in the wiki, doesn't seem to do anything
[08:47] <sankey> did fusion-icon work?
[08:48] <Jonne_> haven't restarted yet
[08:48] <Jonne_> i'll see tomorrow :p
[08:49] <sankey> you actually do want the compiz features, right? otherwise, you get some compositing from xfwm natively
[08:49] <sankey> like drop shadows
[08:50] <Jonne_> yeah, i use the opacity thing a lot when slicing websites
[08:50] <Jonne_> and wobbly windows :p
[08:50] <sankey> oh got, not wobbly windows
[08:50] <Jonne_> and the switcher
[08:51] <Jonne_> *scale plugin
[08:51] <Jonne_> i could live without the wobbly windows, but the opacity and scale thing is essential to me
[09:41] <laite> just out of curiosity, why does wine install want to remove my debhelper and some other packages
[09:46] <ochosi> laite: maybe bad packaging?-
[09:48] <Unit193> I have debhelper and wine installed, no hacks or workarounds.
[09:49] <ochosi> yeah, i can't see where/why the two would conflict (also had them installed side-by-side a few times)
[10:51] <cYmen> I have a weird problem with my keyboard layout. The escape key doesn't work anymore.
[10:52] <cYmen> Does anybody have an idea on how to fix or debug this?
[11:31] <xubuntu699> hi everyone!
[11:33] <xubuntu271> Hi!
[12:42] <Yoshimi-pink> how can i disable the notifications?
[13:07] <Yoshimi-pink> my computer is freezing on log in
[13:08] <Yoshimi-pink> i get tot he login screen and enter my password and it takes me to a xfce default background and just sits there
[13:08] <Yoshimi-pink> I'm using 12.04 does this sound familiar to anyone?
[13:11] <Yoshimi-pink> no?
[13:11] <Yoshimi-pink> thought not
[13:54] <martian> The volume control notification area applet seems to have gone missing on me and I don't see it available in the list of items to add to the panel. What can I do to restore it?
[13:56] <laite> martian: I believe it is 'indicator plugin'
[13:56] <holstein> i usually just add each one and learn what they do.. you can always fire up the live CD, or make a new user to "learn" what is what martian :)
[14:00] <martian> thanks laite; good idea, holstein!
[14:00] <holstein> martian: i dont have XFCE running right here in front of me to look, or i would...
[14:01] <martian> it was indicator :)
[15:13] <Corvin84> hello
[15:13] <rbrt> hello Corvin84
[15:15] <Corvin84> i have a (big) problem whit flash player and java script in to Xubuntu distro
[15:16] <Corvin84> anyone can help me please?
[15:16] <rbrt> what's the problem?
[15:17] <Corvin84> the flash video or interactive applications don't work
[15:18] <Corvin84> I tried to install it in all ways
[15:19] <Corvin84> console, apt..
[15:20] <Corvin84> same thing for java
[15:21] <rbrt> in your browser?
[15:21] <Corvin84> yeah
[15:22] <Corvin84> firefox and chrome
[15:22] <Corvin84> same
[15:24] <rbrt> in firefox when you go to Tools->addons-> plugins  do you see shockwave flash in list
[15:24] <Corvin84> yes
[15:24] <rbrt> so what happens when you go to page with flash on it
[15:25] <rbrt> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[15:25] <rbrt> go there to test
[15:26] <Corvin84> black window with missing plugin and one puzzle piece.. you know...
[15:26] <rbrt> which version of Xubuntu you using?
[15:27] <rbrt> do you have any flashblocker software etc isntalled
[15:27] <rbrt> add-in
[15:27] <Corvin84> 12.04
[15:28] <Corvin84> nothing the installation is totally clean..
[15:29] <rbrt> launch the ubuntu software center
[15:29] <rbrt> type adobe flash plugin in the search box
[15:29] <Corvin84> ok
[15:29] <rbrt> does it say installed
[15:30] <Corvin84> yes
[15:31] <rbrt> Click installed button top
[15:31] <rbrt> then go to Uncategorized
[15:31] <rbrt> do you have Ubuntu restricted extras installed
[15:33] <Corvin84> it's a question?
[15:33] <rbrt> no I am asking you if its under the category Uncategorized
[15:35] <Corvin84> ah ok.. one moment...
[15:35] <rbrt> can you type in terminal?
[15:36] <Corvin84> don't have xubuntu restricted extra
[15:37] <Corvin84> yes i can type
[15:38] <rbrt> you can try  doing a "apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-addons ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:39] <rbrt> see if that solves the problem
[15:39] <G__81> i am using 12.04 and i use xubuntu. Any package that i install i get errors with respect to locale can some one help me on how to resolve this
[15:39] <G__81> the errors are pasted @ http://fpaste.org/k1wB/
[15:40] <G__81> it would be very helpful if someone helps me out on this
[15:42] <Corvin84> rbrt: i can install xubuntu o ubuntu restricted addons... which you recommend?
[15:47] <rbrt> Corvin84: you can do "apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras"
[15:47] <rbrt> the xubuntu version is based on ubuntu i belive
[15:47] <G__81> hi rbrt can you help me out with those errors ?
[15:47] <rbrt> not sure if ther is differnce
[15:47] <rbrt> G__81: um nto sure if I can help gimme a sec
[15:48] <Corvin84> ok tnx try.. although I think I have already tried this solution
[15:49] <G__81> rbrt, am using 12.04 and i get these errors only in 12.04 :(
[15:52] <rbrt> G__81: whats the locale you are trying to use
[15:52] <G__81> its english only :(
[15:52] <rbrt> you want english?
[15:52] <G__81> yes
[15:53] <rbrt> G__81: "sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8"
[15:53] <rbrt> G__81: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:53] <G__81> would that solve all these errors ?
[15:53] <rbrt> I don't know you could give it a try
[15:53] <rbrt> have you tried that before?
[15:53] <G__81> ok sure will give it a try right away
[15:53] <G__81> no
[15:54] <G__81> i gave the second command though but not sudo locale_gen
[15:54] <rbrt> worth a shot I guess
[15:54] <rbrt> ok
[15:54] <rbrt> do that first
[15:54] <rbrt> before the reconfigure
[15:56] <Corvin84> rbrt: don't work...
[15:57] <rbrt> strange
[15:57] <rbrt> maybe try removing and reinstalling
[15:59] <Corvin84> with another install I tried them all
[15:59] <rbrt> hm
[15:59] <Corvin84> unistall.. re-install with offical repository...
[16:00] <rbrt> Corvin84: i don't know maybe google around
[16:01] <Corvin84> i have seen... tnx a lot bro...
[16:03] <rbrt> mayeb someone else will ahve a solution for you
[16:05] <Corvin84> i hope so... bye bye
[16:06] <rbrt> bye
[16:08] <G__81> rbrt, when i install the package citrix receiver i get the same errors again and again :(
[16:09] <G__81> rbrt, http://fpaste.org/0mdv/
[16:11] <rbrt> G__81: mayeb try :setenv LANG "en_US"
[16:11] <rbrt> G__81: setenv LANGUAGE "en_US.UTF-8"
[16:12] <G__81> interesting to see i dont have setenv command @ all :)
[16:12] <rbrt> yeah
[16:12] <rbrt> see if that works
[16:12] <G__81> it says setenv command not found
[16:13] <rbrt> I'm jsut taking guesses I don't have time really to look at it right now lol
[16:13] <rbrt> oh
[16:14] <rbrt> use export
[16:14] <rbrt> sorry bout that
[16:16] <rbrt> G__81: so export LANG=en_US
[16:17] <rbrt> G__81: so export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
[16:22] <G__81> rbrt, when i do sudo apt-get install i get the following errors
[16:23] <G__81> http://fpaste.org/H4o2/
[16:24] <rbrt> did that fix your locale issues
[16:30] <G__81> i am not sure about it :(
[16:30] <rbrt> G__81: type "uname -m"
[16:30] <rbrt> what's that return
[16:30] <G__81> uname -m
[16:30] <G__81> x86_64
[16:31] <rbrt> ok go to /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[16:31] <rbrt> is there a file called icaclient.postinst there
[16:32] <G__81> yeah one sec
[16:32] <G__81> yes
[16:32] <G__81> its there
[16:32] <rbrt> edit that file
[16:32] <rbrt> find the line "echo $Arch|grep "i[0-9]86&quot; >/dev/null"
[16:33] <rbrt> replce it with *echo $Arch|grep -E "i[0-9]86|x86_64" >/dev/null
[16:34] <G__81> i see only this
[16:34] <G__81> cho $Arch|grep "i[0-9]86" >/dev/null
[16:34] <G__81> this is the one right ?
[16:34] <rbrt> yes
[16:34] <rbrt> change it to the line i pasted
[16:35] <rbrt> then run a dpkg --configure icaclient
[16:35] <G__81> ok did that
[16:35] <G__81> ok
[16:35] <G__81> still it says errors
[16:35] <G__81> dpkg: error processing icaclient (--configure):
[16:35] <G__81>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[16:35] <G__81> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:35] <G__81>  icaclient
[16:38] <rbrt> maybe install it from tarball
[16:38] <rbrt> from citrix
[16:39] <G__81> ok i ll give it a try
[16:39] <G__81> how do we make sure that the locale issue is solved ?
[16:40] <rbrt> are you still getting the error?
[16:42] <G__81> i got that error when there were some updates shown by update manager but now since all updates are installed i am not able to check whether i get it or not
[16:44] <rbrt> type locale
[16:44] <rbrt> look for the Lang and Language cariables they shoudl ahve to results in them
[16:44] <rbrt> variables
[16:45] <G__81> this is what i get
[16:45] <G__81> http://fpaste.org/ysEU/
[16:45] <rbrt> you know you miht have to log in and log out
[16:46] <rbrt> link is broken
[16:46] <G__81> i still get the locale error
[16:46] <G__81> :(
[16:46] <G__81> installed vlc player to test whether the error does not come
[16:46] <G__81> i still get the same error
[16:47] <G__81> http://fpaste.org/reg5/
[16:49] <rbrt> what does locale give you
[16:49] <rbrt> when you type it
[16:51] <G__81> i removed icaclient and things seem to work fine
[16:51] <G__81> i dont see the locale errors
[16:52] <rbrt> jsut for good measure what is thr output when u type "locale"
[16:55] <rbrt> http://www.citrix.com/English/ss/downloads/details.asp?downloadId=2323812&productId=1689163
[16:56] <rbrt> you can download the deb from there
[16:56] <G__81> http://fpaste.org/7grG/
[16:56] <G__81> rbrt, i downloaded the citrix receiver from their site
[16:56] <rbrt> which one though
[16:56] <rbrt> the 32 bit or 64
[16:56] <G__81> 64
[16:57] <rbrt> well the locale should be ok
[16:57] <rbrt> did you install the motif  dependcy
[16:59] <rbrt> I would just install it from the tar file
[17:01] <G__81> ok i ll install it from the tar file
[17:01] <G__81> i installed the motif dependency too
[17:26] <G__81> rbrt, thanks a lot for your help and time
[17:28] <rbrt> G__81: were u able to get it working?
[17:28] <rbrt> I think the install script in the deb has issues?
[17:28] <G__81> oh is it but it worked fine with 11.10
[17:29] <rbrt> yeah
[17:29] <rbrt> it will be fixed
[17:29] <rbrt> maybe bring it to citrix attention
[17:30] <knome> file a bug
[17:30] <rbrt> knome: should you if its directly from citrix?
[17:31] <knome> rbrt, if it is in the ubuntu package, you should file a bug against that
[17:31] <knome> rbrt, if it's citrix's own bug, then it will be forwarded anyway
[17:31] <rbrt> knome: oh ok, it is a deb supplied on citrix site
[17:31] <knome> rbrt, right, in that case, file a bug for them
[17:32] <rbrt> G__81: you heard the man, file a bug lol
[17:33] <G__81> :)
[17:37] <chanhannigan> trying to install xubuntu 12.04 32 bit on an HP pavilion dv9000, 1) panels and menus seems to be missing
[17:37] <chanhannigan> and 2) install has taken ~2 hours so far from USB drive
[17:37] <chanhannigan> did I brakes the interwebs?
[17:38] <rbrt> yep
[17:38] <rbrt> :)
[17:38] <chanhannigan> fantastic
[17:38] <chanhannigan> Mint does the same thing
[17:39] <rbrt> both from usb ?
[17:39] <rbrt> maybe its the usb drive?
[17:41] <knome> usa_today, unless your connectivity issues stop, and unless you stop using awaynicks, i'm going to temporarily banforw you
[17:45] <rbrt> they porb aren't even around
[17:52] <knome> rbrt, probably not, but it's the third time i'm notifying - that's enough
[17:52] <rbrt> agreed
[19:41] <xwalk_> Can anyone enlighten me as to what is wrong with this cron file? http://ideone.com/JxrMk
[19:42] <knome> that doesn't look like a cron file.
[19:43] <xwalk_> It's one I made for a backup script I want to run.
[19:44] <knome> right, there's some new syntax...
[19:44] <knome> @midnight is not predefined value? try @daily
[19:44] <knome> or just 0 0 * * *
[19:45] <xwalk_> I didn't understand what man 5 crontab meant about asterisks being "first-last".
[19:45] <xwalk_> That phrase didn't mean anything to me for some reason.
[19:47] <knome> xwalk_, that means it means "any value for this column"
[19:47] <knome> xwalk_, eg. for months, * is 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and ... 12
[19:48] <knome> xwalk_, (like a normal "wildcard")
[19:48] <Liquidedge> Hi all
[19:48] <knome> hello Liquidedge
[19:49] <Liquidedge> I'm trying to do a fresh install but it seems that I can't get too far.  It looks like a video card problem.
[19:49] <knome> did you try if the live cd/session works?
[19:49] <Liquidedge> After I hit "Install Xubuntu" the screen just goes crazy.
[19:50] <Liquidedge> Will try that now.
[19:51] <Unit193> You could try a few alternate boot options, or use the alternate install CD.
[19:54] <Liquidedge> Unit193:  Which alternate boot options do you recommend?  nomodeset?
[19:54] <Liquidedge> knome:  Just tried the live session, made it reboot.
[19:57] <xwalk_> knome: Oh, okay. That makes much more sense.
[19:58] <knome> xwalk_, documentation is not always crystal-clear, just try to keep you head so, and try common sense, and you might get better results ;)
[19:58] <milen8204> my google-chrome crashes all the time see error http://pastebin.com/NFyz5a62
[19:58] <xwalk_> knome: Gotcha. Thanks =)
[19:58] <knome> xwalk_, np
[20:01] <Liquidedge> What boot options should I use to make it use less video resources?
[20:02] <knome> Liquidedge, i'd google your laptop(?) model and linux and see what other people have done :)
[20:02] <knome> Liquidedge, or if it's not a laptop, then google for you GPU model and linux and see the same ^ :)
[20:04] <Liquidedge> Yeah, just tried nomodeset and it went crazy.
[20:08] <Liquidedge> An another machine, it keeps making me choose my primary web browser.
[20:08] <Liquidedge> Is there a way to make it permanent?
[20:14] <martinphone> does any of you play warzone2100?
[20:14] <martinphone> its odd: I didnt have problems with ubuntu 11.10 and the game, but xubuntu and the game results in 10 minutes of playable time, then freeze
[20:15] <martinphone> only thing I can do then is reset the machine
[20:15] <martinphone> this is a 2GB RAM laptop
[20:17] <xwalk_> knome: One more thing about crontab. When I fill in the date fields, is that a tab character that I put between them and the command to be run?
[20:18] <knome> xwalk_, tab or space should work both
[20:18] <xwalk_> knome: Alright.
[21:03] <ChristopherNg> knome: are you there?
[21:04] <knome> ChristopherNg, i am.
[21:04] <ChristopherNg> on sec
[23:14] <Liquidedge> An another machine, it keeps making me choose my primary web browser.
[23:14] <Liquidedge> Is there a way to make it permanent?
[23:16] <drc> App Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Preferred Applications>Web browser
[23:34] <Liquidedge> drc, Thank you!
[23:35] <drc> np