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lorddeltaGreetings. There aren't any clock speech features pending for kubuntu? I'm working on a patch for the plasma clocks...to enable some new features for the clock. I would like to know if there is any support for city/region in addition to country in the klocale, or anywhere in kde...04:07
lorddeltaHmmm...looks like the answer is no....and like the true answer is, put simply, complicated.04:48
lorddeltaI was going to attempt to do the whole country/city/region, but it looks like it might actually be easier to let the user specify these.04:49
lorddeltaSince I'm not up to speed on the whole Location spaghetti mess.04:50
cpatrick08can somebody help me the 20120523 daily-iso iso wont launch the installer and ubiquity is version 2.11.106:13
debfxyofel: do you know why kde-window-manager-common started depending on libegl1-mesa?08:26
bulldog98 We need a newer owncloud in precise, cause there were security issues and we should update it, I’d do all the stuff that necessary09:19
bulldog98yofel: ^09:19
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Tm_Tagateau: howdy11:04
Tm_Tagateau: I assume that it's plasma-widget-menubar that is crashing plasma-desktop here, but without debug symbols for that applet, trace isn't very useful? http://www.tm-travolta.net/traces/plasma-desktop-20120524-140454.kcrash11:06
apacheloggeruhm11:09
apacheloggersounds actually like deserialization of a custom dbus type falls over11:09
Tm_Thappens if I close a window while the desktop is starting after login (so on a heavy load) or other similar cases11:13
agateauTm_T: reading11:37
agateauTm_T: indeed debug symbols would help :/11:38
yofelagateau: the symbols that are there look like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/99863011:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 998630 in plasma-widget-menubar (Ubuntu) "plasma netbook shell crashes on kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10" [Undecided,New]11:44
agateauyofel: thanks11:47
agateaummm, this code looks a little too confident...11:48
agateauand a little too synchronous...11:50
apachelogger^^11:53
Tm_Tdebug symbols aren't available via our repositories, if I have understood correctly12:05
Tm_T(for this particular applet that is)12:05
apacheloggerthey are in the ddebs archive12:07
BluesKajHey all12:18
Tm_Tapachelogger: hm?12:29
yofelTm_T: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash12:30
Tm_Taah thanks12:30
Tm_Tperfect12:31
agateauTm_T: can you try code from: lp:~agateau/plasma-widget-menubar/fix-crash-in-fake-unity-ats ?12:35
Tm_Tsure12:39
bulldog98yofel: would you like to help me get a newer owncloud into precise, cause there are some security issues with the one in main12:41
bulldog98s/main/universe/12:41
kubotubulldog98 meant: "yofel: would you like to help me get a newer owncloud into precise, cause there are some security issues with the one in universe"12:41
yofelbulldog98: you'll be better off asking a MOTU for help12:41
bulldog98yofel: point me to one please12:42
rbelemDarkwing, ping12:42
yofelbulldog98: uh... any core dev, the folks in #ubuntu-motu, or felix, jt, quintasa...12:43
rbelemheya bulldog98, yofel :-)12:44
Tm_Tagateau: installed, we'll see the results when I relogin in a minute12:45
apacheloggerBug 1003918 - didn't we turn off hibernate?12:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1003918 in kile (Ubuntu) "Kile2.1.0 forgets document after waking up from Hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100391812:46
apacheloggerthat is ... our ubuntu overlords12:46
Tm_Tyes12:47
yofelit's turned off by default, the release notes link to a page though that explains how to re-enable it12:47
apacheloggerstill don't care about the bug though :P12:48
* apachelogger very much agrees with not having hibernation turned on12:48
apacheloggerwayyyyy too many issues12:48
yofelagreed12:48
yofelnow we just need to remove the hibernate buttons...12:49
apacheloggerwhere12:49
yofelkickoff for example?12:50
yofelwhich reminds me that I need to file a bug about solid12:51
apacheloggerOo12:52
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/sInpW.png12:53
yofelapachelogger: just me then I guess, the interesting part:12:56
yofel$upower --dump12:56
yofel  can-hibernate    no12:56
yofel$ qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate12:56
yofeltrue12:56
yofelso something's wrong there12:56
Tm_Tagateau: now plasma-desktop crashed even quicker, will show traces after drkonqi has loaded them successfully13:00
agateauTm_T: damn :/13:00
Tm_Thttp://www.tm-travolta.net/traces/plasma-desktop-20120524-160126.kcrash13:02
Tm_Tcrash immediately after login13:02
agateaummm, that is an assert13:03
agateauvery strange13:03
agateauI actually tested that code!13:03
Tm_T(:13:04
Tm_Tlet me know if I have to do some further testing13:04
Tm_Tnow I have to rush to a bus13:04
agateauok13:04
agateauthanks for testing13:04
agateauTm_T: pushed a one line patch to hopefully fix that. Let me know the results when you get to test it13:08
apacheloggeryofel: >>> qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate13:12
apacheloggerfalse13:12
yofelyeah, that's what it's supposed to say13:13
apacheloggermaybe you are using hal :P :P13:13
yofeluh no, most definitely not ^13:13
yofel^^13:14
Tm_Tagateau: will test13:35
Quintasan\o13:36
Tm_Tmrrh, mobile connection is slow13:37
Quintasanwhere be me todos?13:40
Tm_Tagateau: no crashes here13:48
Tm_Tso seems like it's working now13:49
Tm_Twell-spent bus travel (:13:49
agateauTm_T: good!13:51
Tm_Tagateau: thanks, now I don't have to worry about messy systray that is after plasma-desktop crashes13:52
agateauTm_T: :)13:52
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linuxTagping agateau, to look who can debug it, and know which component is responsible in rendering svg in gwenview/kdm 15:35
agateaulinuxTag: gwenview/kdm?15:35
agateaulinuxTag: gwenview uses QSvgRenderer from Qt. I don't know about KDM15:36
linuxTagagateau: for exemple http://geeko.ioda.net/git/art/12.2/kdm/panel.svg this file render perfect under webkit (shadows are good) but under gwenview, or kdm they just look plain color (grey)15:36
linuxTagas the defect is present on allmost all distribution and kde 4.7/4.8 this is more an upstream bug then ? 15:37
agateaulinuxTag: oh I see. It's most likely QSvgRenderer fault then15:37
linuxTagagateau: thx a lot ... 15:41
linuxTagnow mission is to find someone that will have fun fixing it :-) 15:42
agateau:)15:42
linuxTagagateau: you ? 15:42
linuxTagI can send a pack of 6 free beer .-)15:43
agateaulinuxTag: I know nothing about svg rendering: I just trust what Qt offers :/15:43
linuxTag:-) see you 15:43
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afiestasany idea what is the best way of fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/96691316:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966913 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Akonadi contact resource wrong defaults" [High,Confirmed]16:00
debfxfix akonadi to create that folder?16:06
afiestasdebfx: I'm not sure akonadi si the one to blame16:06
afiestasthe problem was iirc that .local/share didn't exists16:07
afiestasgoing to confirm16:07
debfxxdg dir spec says "If, when attempting to write a file, the destination directory is non-existant an attempt should be made to create it with permission 0700."16:13
debfxso it is the responsibility of akonadi to create it16:14
micahgumm, so the new KDE stack pulls in libegl1-mesa and wayland, was this intended16:15
micahg4.8.3 in precise16:15
micahgcommented in SRU bug16:18
debfxI hope not, because it will make our 12.04.1 images explode16:18
micahgyeah, about 12MB larger16:19
afiestasdebfx: can you paste me a url where that is docummented?16:45
afiestasand whyere that's docummented for .local/share folder, or included16:45
afiestasnot sure if ~/Music is the same as .local/share16:45
debfxhttp://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html16:49
debfxhm I'm a bit confused why it's under "Referencing this specification"16:49
* ScottK already had libegl1-mesa and did not get wayland pulled in.18:07
ScottKDid any figure out what's up with micahg's issue on new packages?18:07
yofelthere were some gl/es related cmake changes, I'm looking at those again. (I had egl already installed too so didn't notice a diff either)18:23
yofelmgraesslin: looking at bug 299685 again, and your opengl build fixes in 4.8.3, as I understand it you are fully intentionally linking your kwin KCM against OpenGLES here: http://paste.kde.org/48623618:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 299685 in poldek "Poldek doesn't allow upgrading colored packages to no color ones" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29968518:35
yofelmake that kde bug http://paste.kde.org/48623618:35
yofel*sigh* - kde bug 29968518:35
ubottuKDE bug 299685 in compositing "System Settings crashes when trying to re-enable Open GL detection or use "Screen Edges" kcm" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29968518:35
yofelmgraesslin: and is there a particular reason why you made those changes only in KDE/4.8 but not master?18:40
lorddeltaSo, yeah, I asked this question last night, but I suppose I'll pose it again since there are people around. I want to add a feature to the clock speaker, and I wanted to know if there's a reliable way to access the city/region data in KDE...so far my research seems to point that being somewhat of an impossibility, at least with the free stuff. However, I'm not an expert with timezone databases, so is this true? And ar19:00
lorddeltaBasically I'm trying to get KSpeech to speak the city/region/country as well as the time, optionally.19:02
lorddeltaCountry is easy; its already in the locale. But it looks like City/Region is something that doesn't exist everywhere.19:02
lorddeltaOf course this is just the fault of the database, so I figure I can add the feature still, it will just have to be less automated.19:03
lorddeltaAm I right?19:03
claydohapachelogger and JontheEchidna: I want to personally thank both of you for taking time to post in kubuntuforums.19:08
yofellorddelta: in case nobody answers again: As long as it's a coding question you might have a better chance to get help in #kde-devel for this19:09
lorddeltayofel: thnx19:14
mgraesslinyofel: ping19:52
yofelpong19:53
mgraesslinyofel: I don't understand what you pasted me above, can you give me some context, please?19:53
yofelok, first I was trying to figure out why kwin_compositing.so suddenly linked against libEGL since 4.8.3 which is adding some dependencies to out packages19:55
yofelWhile I was doing that I remembered that someone had filed a bug about the kcm crashing with fglrx and you mentioning on the bug that it's because we link that against openGLES19:55
yofelnow, if I look at your cmake setup, that looks intentional to me...19:56
mgraesslinthat is new since 4.8.3?19:57
mgraesslinin that case 1554ba408633397066d31c3d565c217b5a385fb8 is most likely to blame19:57
mgraesslinhttps://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/1554ba408633397066d31c3d565c217b5a385fb819:57
yofelyeah, that's what I think too - and while I was looking at it I noticed that this commit is only in the KDE/4.8 branch, not in master19:58
yofelmgraesslin: got a suggestion on what to best do here? Otherwise I'll revert that commit in our package20:01
apacheloggerScottK: ping20:38
mgraesslinyofel: my suggestion is to revert the patch in the package20:45
yofelack20:51
ScottKapachelogger: pong20:58
apacheloggerScottK: already acted on impulse, feel free to cleanup after me :P21:00
apacheloggeractually first impulse was probably conflicting with the coc :S21:00
yofelScottK: if I upload a new kde-workspace, can I reupload ubuntu0.1 or do I need to use 0.2?21:02
ScottKyofel: ubuntu0.2.21:03
yofelk21:03
micahgyofel: don't forget -v LAST_VERSION_IN_UPDATES when uploading21:06
yofeloh right, thanks21:07
micahgthat's a variable not a flag :)21:07
micahgi.e. fill in the version21:07
yofelI've used it before, just forgot it's purpose21:07
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 641 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) add kubuntu_revert_1554ba408633397066d31c3d565c217b5a385fb8.diff to revert the broken openGL build fixes from this commit. Replaces kubuntu_fix_gleffects.diff (LP: #997625)21:55
yofelScottK: kde-workspace 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu0.2 uploaded21:59
micahgyofel: sorry, I probably should've given you a separate bug for that22:07
micahgah, nevermind22:08
yofelif it's needed let ScottK reject it and I'll reupload, but that would have to be tomorrow22:08
yofelScottK: actually, do reject my first upload, I passed the wrong value to -v in the first one -.-22:21
* yofel is off to bed22:21
* JontheEchidna gets on the libktorrent ftbfs22:28
JontheEchidnahopefully that'll get ktorrent out of depwait :>22:29
JontheEchidnaSweet, libktorrent built on all archs23:29
JontheEchidnajust needs a push through new queue23:29
JontheEchidnathen we can get libktorrent3 off the NBS list :)23:34
CIA-42[akonadi] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120524234036-pm76bwl6j0g5c3po * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)23:40
CIA-42* Merge with Debian, remaining changes: - Add a mysqld-akonadi wrapper script. -23:40
CIA-42Add apparmor profile for mysqld-akonadi (usr.sbin.mysqld-akonadi). - Make23:40
JontheEchidnawhee, kdemultimedia is now split23:42
JontheEchidnawe'll have a bit of fun with that one ;-)23:42
CIA-42[kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120524234622-cvbscafbbr9g6ew2 * debian/control Bump replaces/breaks version to 4:4.4.80~23:46
JontheEchidnahey, all of our kdelibs patches apply with 4.8.80, nice :)23:53

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