[04:07] <lorddelta> Greetings. There aren't any clock speech features pending for kubuntu? I'm working on a patch for the plasma clocks...to enable some new features for the clock. I would like to know if there is any support for city/region in addition to country in the klocale, or anywhere in kde...
[04:48] <lorddelta> Hmmm...looks like the answer is no....and like the true answer is, put simply, complicated.
[04:49] <lorddelta> I was going to attempt to do the whole country/city/region, but it looks like it might actually be easier to let the user specify these.
[04:50] <lorddelta> Since I'm not up to speed on the whole Location spaghetti mess.
[06:13] <cpatrick08> can somebody help me the 20120523 daily-iso iso wont launch the installer and ubiquity is version 2.11.1
[08:26] <debfx> yofel: do you know why kde-window-manager-common started depending on libegl1-mesa?
[09:19] <bulldog98>  We need a newer owncloud in precise, cause there were security issues and we should update it, I’d do all the stuff that necessary
[09:19] <bulldog98> yofel: ^
[11:04] <Tm_T> agateau: howdy
[11:06] <Tm_T> agateau: I assume that it's plasma-widget-menubar that is crashing plasma-desktop here, but without debug symbols for that applet, trace isn't very useful? http://www.tm-travolta.net/traces/plasma-desktop-20120524-140454.kcrash
[11:09] <apachelogger> uhm
[11:09] <apachelogger> sounds actually like deserialization of a custom dbus type falls over
[11:13] <Tm_T> happens if I close a window while the desktop is starting after login (so on a heavy load) or other similar cases
[11:37] <agateau> Tm_T: reading
[11:38] <agateau> Tm_T: indeed debug symbols would help :/
[11:44] <yofel> agateau: the symbols that are there look like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/998630
[11:47] <agateau> yofel: thanks
[11:48] <agateau> mmm, this code looks a little too confident...
[11:50] <agateau> and a little too synchronous...
[11:53] <apachelogger> ^^
[12:05] <Tm_T> debug symbols aren't available via our repositories, if I have understood correctly
[12:05] <Tm_T> (for this particular applet that is)
[12:07] <apachelogger> they are in the ddebs archive
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:29] <Tm_T> apachelogger: hm?
[12:30] <yofel> Tm_T: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[12:30] <Tm_T> aah thanks
[12:31] <Tm_T> perfect
[12:35] <agateau> Tm_T: can you try code from: lp:~agateau/plasma-widget-menubar/fix-crash-in-fake-unity-ats ?
[12:39] <Tm_T> sure
[12:41] <bulldog98> yofel: would you like to help me get a newer owncloud into precise, cause there are some security issues with the one in main
[12:41] <bulldog98> s/main/universe/
[12:41] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "yofel: would you like to help me get a newer owncloud into precise, cause there are some security issues with the one in universe"
[12:41] <yofel> bulldog98: you'll be better off asking a MOTU for help
[12:42] <bulldog98> yofel: point me to one please
[12:42] <rbelem> Darkwing, ping
[12:43] <yofel> bulldog98: uh... any core dev, the folks in #ubuntu-motu, or felix, jt, quintasa...
[12:44] <rbelem> heya bulldog98, yofel :-)
[12:45] <Tm_T> agateau: installed, we'll see the results when I relogin in a minute
[12:46] <apachelogger> Bug 1003918 - didn't we turn off hibernate?
[12:46] <apachelogger> that is ... our ubuntu overlords
[12:47] <Tm_T> yes
[12:47] <yofel> it's turned off by default, the release notes link to a page though that explains how to re-enable it
[12:48] <apachelogger> still don't care about the bug though :P
[12:48]  * apachelogger very much agrees with not having hibernation turned on
[12:48] <apachelogger> wayyyyy too many issues
[12:48] <yofel> agreed
[12:49] <yofel> now we just need to remove the hibernate buttons...
[12:49] <apachelogger> where
[12:50] <yofel> kickoff for example?
[12:51] <yofel> which reminds me that I need to file a bug about solid
[12:52] <apachelogger> Oo
[12:53] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/sInpW.png
[12:56] <yofel> apachelogger: just me then I guess, the interesting part:
[12:56] <yofel> $upower --dump
[12:56] <yofel>   can-hibernate    no
[12:56] <yofel> $ qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate
[12:56] <yofel> true
[12:56] <yofel> so something's wrong there
[13:00] <Tm_T> agateau: now plasma-desktop crashed even quicker, will show traces after drkonqi has loaded them successfully
[13:00] <agateau> Tm_T: damn :/
[13:02] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/traces/plasma-desktop-20120524-160126.kcrash
[13:02] <Tm_T> crash immediately after login
[13:03] <agateau> mmm, that is an assert
[13:03] <agateau> very strange
[13:03] <agateau> I actually tested that code!
[13:04] <Tm_T> (:
[13:04] <Tm_T> let me know if I have to do some further testing
[13:04] <Tm_T> now I have to rush to a bus
[13:04] <agateau> ok
[13:04] <agateau> thanks for testing
[13:08] <agateau> Tm_T: pushed a one line patch to hopefully fix that. Let me know the results when you get to test it
[13:12] <apachelogger> yofel: >>> qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate
[13:12] <apachelogger> false
[13:13] <yofel> yeah, that's what it's supposed to say
[13:13] <apachelogger> maybe you are using hal :P :P
[13:13] <yofel> uh no, most definitely not ^
[13:14] <yofel> ^^
[13:35] <Tm_T> agateau: will test
[13:36] <Quintasan> \o
[13:37] <Tm_T> mrrh, mobile connection is slow
[13:40] <Quintasan> where be me todos?
[13:48] <Tm_T> agateau: no crashes here
[13:49] <Tm_T> so seems like it's working now
[13:49] <Tm_T> well-spent bus travel (:
[13:51] <agateau> Tm_T: good!
[13:52] <Tm_T> agateau: thanks, now I don't have to worry about messy systray that is after plasma-desktop crashes
[13:52] <agateau> Tm_T: :)
[15:35] <linuxTag> ping agateau, to look who can debug it, and know which component is responsible in rendering svg in gwenview/kdm 
[15:35] <agateau> linuxTag: gwenview/kdm?
[15:36] <agateau> linuxTag: gwenview uses QSvgRenderer from Qt. I don't know about KDM
[15:36] <linuxTag> agateau: for exemple http://geeko.ioda.net/git/art/12.2/kdm/panel.svg this file render perfect under webkit (shadows are good) but under gwenview, or kdm they just look plain color (grey)
[15:37] <linuxTag> as the defect is present on allmost all distribution and kde 4.7/4.8 this is more an upstream bug then ? 
[15:37] <agateau> linuxTag: oh I see. It's most likely QSvgRenderer fault then
[15:41] <linuxTag> agateau: thx a lot ... 
[15:42] <linuxTag> now mission is to find someone that will have fun fixing it :-) 
[15:42] <agateau> :)
[15:42] <linuxTag> agateau: you ? 
[15:43] <linuxTag> I can send a pack of 6 free beer .-)
[15:43] <agateau> linuxTag: I know nothing about svg rendering: I just trust what Qt offers :/
[15:43] <linuxTag> :-) see you 
[16:00] <afiestas> any idea what is the best way of fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/966913
[16:06] <debfx> fix akonadi to create that folder?
[16:06] <afiestas> debfx: I'm not sure akonadi si the one to blame
[16:07] <afiestas> the problem was iirc that .local/share didn't exists
[16:07] <afiestas> going to confirm
[16:13] <debfx> xdg dir spec says "If, when attempting to write a file, the destination directory is non-existant an attempt should be made to create it with permission 0700."
[16:14] <debfx> so it is the responsibility of akonadi to create it
[16:15] <micahg> umm, so the new KDE stack pulls in libegl1-mesa and wayland, was this intended
[16:15] <micahg> 4.8.3 in precise
[16:18] <micahg> commented in SRU bug
[16:18] <debfx> I hope not, because it will make our 12.04.1 images explode
[16:19] <micahg> yeah, about 12MB larger
[16:45] <afiestas> debfx: can you paste me a url where that is docummented?
[16:45] <afiestas> and whyere that's docummented for .local/share folder, or included
[16:45] <afiestas> not sure if ~/Music is the same as .local/share
[16:49] <debfx> http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
[16:49] <debfx> hm I'm a bit confused why it's under "Referencing this specification"
[18:07]  * ScottK already had libegl1-mesa and did not get wayland pulled in.
[18:07] <ScottK> Did any figure out what's up with micahg's issue on new packages?
[18:23] <yofel> there were some gl/es related cmake changes, I'm looking at those again. (I had egl already installed too so didn't notice a diff either)
[18:35] <yofel> mgraesslin: looking at bug 299685 again, and your opengl build fixes in 4.8.3, as I understand it you are fully intentionally linking your kwin KCM against OpenGLES here: http://paste.kde.org/486236
[18:35] <yofel> make that kde bug http://paste.kde.org/486236
[18:35] <yofel> *sigh* - kde bug 299685
[18:40] <yofel> mgraesslin: and is there a particular reason why you made those changes only in KDE/4.8 but not master?
[19:00] <lorddelta> So, yeah, I asked this question last night, but I suppose I'll pose it again since there are people around. I want to add a feature to the clock speaker, and I wanted to know if there's a reliable way to access the city/region data in KDE...so far my research seems to point that being somewhat of an impossibility, at least with the free stuff. However, I'm not an expert with timezone databases, so is this true? And ar
[19:02] <lorddelta> Basically I'm trying to get KSpeech to speak the city/region/country as well as the time, optionally.
[19:02] <lorddelta> Country is easy; its already in the locale. But it looks like City/Region is something that doesn't exist everywhere.
[19:03] <lorddelta> Of course this is just the fault of the database, so I figure I can add the feature still, it will just have to be less automated.
[19:03] <lorddelta> Am I right?
[19:08] <claydoh> apachelogger and JontheEchidna: I want to personally thank both of you for taking time to post in kubuntuforums.
[19:09] <yofel> lorddelta: in case nobody answers again: As long as it's a coding question you might have a better chance to get help in #kde-devel for this
[19:14] <lorddelta> yofel: thnx
[19:52] <mgraesslin> yofel: ping
[19:53] <yofel> pong
[19:53] <mgraesslin> yofel: I don't understand what you pasted me above, can you give me some context, please?
[19:55] <yofel> ok, first I was trying to figure out why kwin_compositing.so suddenly linked against libEGL since 4.8.3 which is adding some dependencies to out packages
[19:55] <yofel> While I was doing that I remembered that someone had filed a bug about the kcm crashing with fglrx and you mentioning on the bug that it's because we link that against openGLES
[19:56] <yofel> now, if I look at your cmake setup, that looks intentional to me...
[19:57] <mgraesslin> that is new since 4.8.3?
[19:57] <mgraesslin> in that case 1554ba408633397066d31c3d565c217b5a385fb8 is most likely to blame
[19:57] <mgraesslin> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/1554ba408633397066d31c3d565c217b5a385fb8
[19:58] <yofel> yeah, that's what I think too - and while I was looking at it I noticed that this commit is only in the KDE/4.8 branch, not in master
[20:01] <yofel> mgraesslin: got a suggestion on what to best do here? Otherwise I'll revert that commit in our package
[20:38] <apachelogger> ScottK: ping
[20:45] <mgraesslin> yofel: my suggestion is to revert the patch in the package
[20:51] <yofel> ack
[20:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: pong
[21:00] <apachelogger> ScottK: already acted on impulse, feel free to cleanup after me :P
[21:00] <apachelogger> actually first impulse was probably conflicting with the coc :S
[21:02] <yofel> ScottK: if I upload a new kde-workspace, can I reupload ubuntu0.1 or do I need to use 0.2?
[21:03] <ScottK> yofel: ubuntu0.2.
[21:03] <yofel> k
[21:06] <micahg> yofel: don't forget -v LAST_VERSION_IN_UPDATES when uploading
[21:07] <yofel> oh right, thanks
[21:07] <micahg> that's a variable not a flag :)
[21:07] <micahg> i.e. fill in the version
[21:07] <yofel> I've used it before, just forgot it's purpose
[21:55] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 641 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) add kubuntu_revert_1554ba408633397066d31c3d565c217b5a385fb8.diff to revert the broken openGL build fixes from this commit. Replaces kubuntu_fix_gleffects.diff (LP: #997625)
[21:59] <yofel> ScottK: kde-workspace 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu0.2 uploaded
[22:07] <micahg> yofel: sorry, I probably should've given you a separate bug for that
[22:08] <micahg> ah, nevermind
[22:08] <yofel> if it's needed let ScottK reject it and I'll reupload, but that would have to be tomorrow
[22:21] <yofel> ScottK: actually, do reject my first upload, I passed the wrong value to -v in the first one -.-
[22:21]  * yofel is off to bed
[22:28]  * JontheEchidna gets on the libktorrent ftbfs
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> hopefully that'll get ktorrent out of depwait :>
[23:29] <JontheEchidna> Sweet, libktorrent built on all archs
[23:29] <JontheEchidna> just needs a push through new queue
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> then we can get libktorrent3 off the NBS list :)
[23:40] <CIA-42> [akonadi] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120524234036-pm76bwl6j0g5c3po * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[23:40] <CIA-42> * Merge with Debian, remaining changes: - Add a mysqld-akonadi wrapper script. -
[23:40] <CIA-42> Add apparmor profile for mysqld-akonadi (usr.sbin.mysqld-akonadi). - Make
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> whee, kdemultimedia is now split
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> we'll have a bit of fun with that one ;-)
[23:46] <CIA-42> [kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120524234622-cvbscafbbr9g6ew2 * debian/control Bump replaces/breaks version to 4:4.4.80~
[23:53] <JontheEchidna> hey, all of our kdelibs patches apply with 4.8.80, nice :)