[00:33] Hi all can i ask a qtion [00:35] i have a pb with firefox conexion [00:35] all was ok but today ??? [00:36] The server at www.google.com is taking too long to respond [00:37] thanks === lindalou is now known as westmi [01:50] I've got a "jumping cursor" and I'm pretty sure I haven't been accidentally touching the touch pad on my laptop. It happens in any program, not when running anything specific (it just happened actually). Any ideas out there? === AD is now known as Guest23691 [02:21] dasKreech: hi [02:21] dasKreech: i had no luck..I just gave up [02:21] dasKreech: you are right..i am just using wireless [02:32] hi [02:44] algunos hablan español === an is now known as Guest84919 [03:46] Hi all, :) [03:58] how do I make my USB webcam default? [05:29] I've installed amd64 kubuntu and have 4 GB physical memory. But, free commands shows 3824 MB total. What's wrong? [05:30] hanibana: some BIOS do stupid reservations [05:30] for instance on this DELL I have, it reserves ~600MB for whatever arcane reason [05:32] any command to see the reserved amount? [05:33] hateball: or just see BIOS settings directly? [05:35] hanibana: I guess that'd depend on your BIOS, if dmidecode would show anything [05:35] hanibana: you dont have shared memory with the GPU then? [05:37] hateball: don't know. Going to find ways to check both... thanks ;) === mike is now known as mickel [05:52] hey how do I get folder view (thought it was called quick launch) to show complete directory path? [05:55] anyone know if there's a ppa for kdenlive 0.9 yet? [06:29] robertzaccour: http://www.kdenlive.org/user-manual/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive/pre-compiled-packages/ubuntu-packages === niels_ is now known as nielsbusch [06:33] ferni, thanks very much [06:36] How can I migrate my Kontact data from my previous system (Fedora 14) to Kubuntu? any folder to copy? is there any database? [07:01] hanibana: checkout ~/.kde4/share/apps/kabc/ [07:01] or ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/ depending [07:05] L3top: copied, but no todo/contacts in new Kontact. [07:05] hanibana: it should be enough if you launch akonaditray, make backup of your akonadi database with it, and then restore the database from backup in the new system [07:06] Tm_T: ok, going to test... [07:06] does KDE have a network utilities equivalent? [07:06] by that I mean ping, whois, tracert, etc [07:08] forgeaus: Linux has ping, traceroute and an equivalent for whois doesn't spring to mind right now. Hold on. [07:08] no I mean a gui KDE4 tool [07:08] Network tool or network utilites depends on what OS/System you come from its usually called something like that [07:09] apparently Ubuntu has one (gtk based I guess by the look of it) [07:10] forgeaus: Phew good question, I don't know of any gui who can do this. [07:21] forgeaus: you should have a look at http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KSniffer?content=26258 [07:22] but unfortunately it hasn't been ported to KDE4 [07:28] forgeaus: you can use zenmap [07:28] ugh [07:28] I see the ubuntu packages have silly dependencies [07:30] but I don't really see the need of a GUI tool for these services, much easier to do in a konsole [07:32] the nmap syntax can be quite daunting if you're a first time user :) [07:33] Tm_T: my previous OS is really broken due to file system issues. But, I have its .kde files. Any other way? [07:33] forgeaus: I suggest also searching in http://qt-apps.org/ and http://server-apps.org/ [07:34] hanibana: copying all the related files, ~/.config/akonadi/ among the others [07:36] yeah ok. [07:36] forgeaus, hateball: maybe this: http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/nmapsi4?content=98515 [07:37] more info is here: http://www.nmapsi4.org/ [07:38] and it is in the Ubuntu repos [07:41] thx [07:45] Tm_T: no succuss with copying .config/akonadi. === luka is now known as Guest58741 === Guest58741 is now known as lukam [08:16] Mamarok: hey that's cool, hadnt seen that before :) === akSeya is now known as Guest98769 === elf is now known as Guest64686 [09:18] fhy [10:03] lordievader: if your still there OSX and Ubuntu both have them out of the box (network utility or network tools) [10:04] but ubuntu's is gtk and kubuntu doesn't have that package (but I installed ubuntu-desktop so I have it) === nosrepa is now known as aperson === JulienBussi is now known as JulienBu === frega_ is now known as frega === lindalou is now known as westmi [11:18] kubuntu crashed and I can't log on now. Help? [11:18] mega0wn3r: ? [11:18] kubuntu crashed is a bit general issue [11:18] what where when [11:20] I had to shut off holding power button. [11:20] It froze using nexuiz. [11:20] nexuz? [11:21] what is that? [11:21] a game [11:22] mega0wn3r: What error do you get when you try to log on? [11:22] Nothing. [11:22] It freezes. [11:22] Also, it makes me log in multiple times. [11:22] mega0wn3r: Can you still login to a tty? [11:22] And it shouldn't need me to log in, anyway. [11:23] I don't know what tty is. [11:23] mega0wn3r: sudo adduser testuser [11:23] mega0wn3r: sudo adduser testuser admin [11:23] startkde [11:24] mega0wn3r: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/ [11:25] mega0wn3r: At your login screen press ctrl + alt + F1, to get a tty. [11:26] tty works [11:27] Now what? [11:27] mega0wn3r: You can login in there? What is next is follow the advice of Peace- and try to login (gui wise) with that user. [11:27] kk [11:29] The group "admin" does not exist. [11:32] I made the user "testuser" then restarted and tried to log on. It brought me right back to the logon screen, though. [11:35] hi [11:37] Hey surbiks [11:37] how can find list of app that installed [11:38] surbiks: Do you want to know all the packages that are installed or just the programs? [11:39] just program [11:39] surbiks: Look in the start menu. [11:40] no i want use this list for my widget like lanchpad [11:41] surbiks: Phew I wouldn't know how to do that. [11:42] ok i want to create lanchpad like as apple lanchpad in mac OS X [11:45] surbiks: If you want to turn that into a plasma widget you might recieve more help in their channel: #plasma [11:46] surbiks: If you want to turn that into a plasma widget you might recieve more help in their channel: #plasma [11:47] lordievader : ok tnx [11:52] lordievader : php channel ??? === NoiseCounsellor is now known as NoiseCounselor [12:15] Hi guys [12:16] Is it important to have Kernals installed in Kubuntu. and how to check about kernals info. i mean i don't know if they are installed and are they too helpful with graphic card drivers? [12:17] Hey all [12:26] BluesKaj: hi :), what's up [12:26] Is it important to have Kernals installed in Kubuntu. and how to check about kernals info. i mean i don't know if they are installed and are they too helpful with graphic card drivers? [12:26] Even don't know what they are for :D [12:28] !kernel | cancer [12:28] cancer: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [14:21] clear [14:59] hi, all: i have 3 LVM volumes on 3 different servers. I formatted them as ext 4. They all mount fine. However, when the system is booting, it complains it cannot check them because of too high revision of the FS or damaged superblock (see http://pastebin.com/RVgrFk5U). If I do file -sL /dev/vg00/bacula_backups, it says it is indeed an ext4 FS, mounted or unclean. ANy ideas on how to fix this? Thanks. [15:05] level15, you may wait a while for a resonse to that kind of question here, maybe the ppl at #ubuntu can help since they have more than 5X more helpers then we do. [15:06] BluesKaj: yeah, I already asked over there, too. Thanks :-) [15:06] level15, ok [15:07] and on ##linux [15:07] no luck, though [15:07] level15: ok, lets take a look [15:07] walk me through it a bit, with a little more detail [15:08] ikonia: there is an LVM volume. I put an ext4 fs on it [15:09] i can mount i no problems [15:09] but i cannot fsck it [15:09] level15: ok - one step at a time [15:09] level15: this is kubuntu 12.04 ? [15:09] yes [15:09] wait [15:09] no, ubuntu server 12.04 [15:09] ok, so let me just check [15:09] !find ext [15:09] Found: byobu, doc-linux-text, e2fslibs, e2fslibs-dev, emacs-goodies-el, fonts-nanum-extra, genext2fs, gettext, gettext-base, gettext-doc (and 603 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ext&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all [15:09] !info e2fslibs, [15:09] e2fslibs (source: e2fsprogs): ext2/ext3/ext4 file system libraries. In component main, is required. Version 1.42-1ubuntu2 (precise), package size 195 kB, installed size 387 kB [15:10] level15: where these volume's created manually or with the installer ? [15:10] manually === patriss is now known as patriss_ [15:10] i did the vgcreate and mke2fs myself [15:10] and lvcreate [15:10] level15: ok, what was the mke2fs option you used === patriss_ is now known as patriss [15:13] ikonia: let me look them up on my history [15:13] level15: great, [15:13] ikonia: sudo mke2fs -r4 -L bacula_backups /dev/mapper/vg00-bacula_backups [15:13] interesting [15:14] paste [15:14] level15: out of interest, if you just do a fsck /dev/vg00/bacula_backups [15:15] what happens [15:15] same thing, fs rev too high, no valid superblock [15:15] level15: the -r flag doesn't actually set it to ext4 as I'm reading [15:15] (I've never used the -r flag) [15:16] -t ext4 would be creating it as ext4 [15:17] ikonia: yes [15:17] but -r4 is supposed to do that too [15:17] not as I read it [15:17] can you run a "tune2fs -l /dev/vg00/bacula_backups" [15:18] tune2fs also says invalid superblock blah blah blah :-( [15:18] hello [15:18] level15: very interesting, [15:19] level15: do you have any spare space in that volume group ? [15:19] i can increase it a little bit [15:19] in our Kubuntu Pangolin we don't have yet the global shortcut for kwin, it's a bug? [15:19] level15: I'm just wondering if you can make a test lv for me please. [15:19] s/shortcut/shortcuts/ [15:20] ikonia: what would that be? though i was just reading and i think you are right about the fs creation [15:20] it was wrong to use -r 4 [15:20] level15: yeah, I think that's the glitch [15:20] weird that file -sL /dev/... says it is ext4 [15:21] jeez this is all sooo weird [15:21] level15: as I'm reading it appears there is no "revision 4" file system, so that may explain the problem [15:21] level15: if you can create another LV, then do a proper ext4 creation and FS check on that new volume, I'd be interested [15:21] yesterday we hare lost some packet with the deinstallation of kubuntu-desktop, we have retreave use from the lastest kde 4.8.x but we have notice this now… [15:22] ikonia: sec [15:23] patriss, why did you remove kubuntu-desktop ...did you try to remove akonadi or nepomuk ? [15:24] ikonia: it checks allright [15:25] level15: I think we have a winner..... [15:26] ikonia: indeed [15:26] now I'm off to see how to change the revision back [15:27] BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1004905/ [15:28] why my 10.04 cannot proceed with updates and every time the system tries to update i am taking the following message "The specified update could not be found.It could have already been installed or no longer available on the remote server."? [15:29] BluesKaj: p kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts [15:29] konqueror-shorcuts is not installed [15:29] it's the problem ? [15:29] I think no… [15:30] patriss, search for kubuntu-desktop [15:31] i kubuntu-desktop [15:31] installed [15:32] hey, ikonia, thanks a lot for helping me figure out the issue [15:32] patriss, also , aptitude still works , but it's not actively supported any longer afaik , so your dependencies may not be resolved as cleanly as with apt-get [15:33] ok, so what can I do ? apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ? [15:33] patriss, yes [15:33] wow i had constant issues with Application menu's not wanting to come up. Is this normal for this Distro ? [15:34] ok I have done a apt-get remove aptitude too ^^ [15:35] BluesKaj: I should quit the session to do that? [15:35] X, I want say? [15:36] level15: bad news, the info I've found says you can't change the revision without re-applying the file system [15:36] level15: I don't know how solid that information is though [15:37] patriss, no need to quit session [15:37] ok, well I send the command line [15:38] why my 10.04 cannot proceed with updates and every time the system tries to update i am taking the following message "The specified update could not be found.It could have already been installed or no longer available on the remote server."? [15:39] ikonia: I'm on ext4 channel and some guy says he is trying to figure out a way to do it with a dd to the appropriate sector [15:40] level15: that would be super cool [15:40] ikonia: yeah, if it works, I'll share with you how he accomplished it [15:40] BluesKaj: the problems is the same [15:41] level15: please do [15:50] ikonia: dd if=/dev/vg00/bacula_backups of=/dev/vg00/bacula_backups bs=4 skip=$((256+15)) seek=$((256+19)) count=1 === v is now known as vorian [15:52] level15: is it really that simple ? [15:52] ikonia: it seems to be, now fsck runs, I am about to mount the fs [15:53] level15: very cool [15:54] yeah... you and these guys at #ext4 saved my life today, thank you sooo much [15:56] nice job [15:56] you're welcome [16:00] what is level15? [16:04] sunitasethi, it's a person :) === VirtualBlackness is now known as L3top [16:10] hi [16:12] received this notice -- Bell in session 'Shell' -- what is this? [16:17] totyk0: You've got a shell open and whatever program is running in it, is sending you a "Pay attention to me" signal. [16:21] Darkwing, ok [16:23] hi [16:24] ikonia: I dropped. If level15 provided that solution I would appreciate a pm with it... just to know. [16:24] I'm trying to connect a iphone to kubuntu and installed ifuse but when I connect the iphone it doesn't mount it [16:24] what do I have to do? === yue_ is now known as yue [16:29] !Iphone [16:29] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [16:29] NCS_One, ^ [16:40] BluesKaj: Thanks [16:40] NCS_One, hope it helps [16:53] BluesKaj: it doesn't :( [16:55] hi BluesKaj [16:55] NCS_One, well sorry , I don't have an Iphone and no experience observing it's support here [16:55] im confronted with the issue of the clock showing time in UTC .. not the local time [16:56] rebooted .. still its not fixed [16:58] really its annoying .. [16:59] any help pls.. [17:01] ok fixed [17:01] DONE [17:02] brb [17:05] HI [17:06] sOMEONE IS THERE? [17:06] !caps | jose___ [17:06] jose___: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [17:07] sorry [17:07] how can I enter in a xat about i want? [17:07] such as ubuntu? [17:08] jose___: type: /join #ubuntu [17:08] ok thanks [17:08] np [17:20] i need to report a bug but i don't know to whom. everytime i open libreoffice it crashes itself and plasma desktop. i found out that if i remove global menu it works. i'm using window menubar. so, i report the bug to kde, kubuntu or libreoffice? [17:25] Hali [17:26] !bug | pedor [17:26] pedor: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [17:26] Van itt olyan aki ubuntu 12.04 lts compuz beállításában jártas? [17:27] !hu | Wolf1983 [17:27] Wolf1983: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál [17:30] Köszönöm! [17:54] selam arkadaslar sorum olacak sizlere [17:55] ben frost wire kurmak isdiorm kubuntuda nasıl kurablirim bilmiorm yardımcı olurmusunuz [17:56] aloooooooooooo [17:56] kimse yokmuuuuuuuuuu [17:57] Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and the appropriate [17:57] headers, most likely linux-headers-generic. [17:57] but i have already installed virtualbox-ose-dkms [18:05] So install the kernel headers then. [18:06] sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) [18:06] what? [18:07] i thought i already have headers. dont i? [18:07] :-) [18:07] If so, then that command will tell you that they are already installed. If not, it'll install them. [18:08] hm [18:09] i am going to install nvidia proprietary driver using jockey, i am given with two options 1. "post release updates" 2. "version current" which one should i select? [18:09] now that is strange. it says need to get 0/12mb and is unpacking. so installing headers. dont the headers installed. what are headers by the way [18:09] DarthFrog, ^ [18:10] phoenix_firebrd: i did try lately the new updated from nvidia, but had only trouble with it, the current one worked better [18:11] It would seem to me that unless you have a brand spanking new video chip, you'd be better off with the current version. [18:12] Joit: DarthFrog ok i will install the current version [18:12] phoenix_firebrd: Besides, you can always change your mind later. [18:13] DarthFrog: ya, but i should be prepared for the boot problems before that :) [18:13] phoenix_firebrd: You've internalised the Boy Scout motto. :-) [18:14] DarthFrog, and sudo modprobe vboxdrv solved the problem further .thanks. [18:14] DarthFrog: :) [18:14] is there a channel for xbmc [18:17] phoenix_firebrd, yes , #xbmc [18:18] BluesKaj: ok [18:20] phoenix_firebrd: well it was not to worse, only a lot did slow down and did not work well [18:21] Joit: :D [18:22] yeah. but at last anything started and i could do some things [18:39] For the record Joit I disagree. The 295.40 driver has regression issues. nvidia-current-updates works better for everyone I have heard reports of installs for... except you. This is not to say that your experience will be unique, but in my purvue atm, it is. [19:02] L3top, not sure , but is the 295.53 diver available for 12.04 ...I'm on 12.10 [19:04] !info nvidia-current-updates [19:04] nvidia-current-updates (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 295.40-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 32650 kB, installed size 96014 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia) [19:04] bah... [19:04] Hi guys :) [19:04] im on 1004 atm. [19:05] :D talking Nvidia, Interesting [19:05] L3top: hey, how are you? [19:05] L3top: ups? well, yes at 10.04 both driver worked for me, but at 12.04 th new updated one did mess it up. but i said anyway explicit, " i had" [19:06] L3top: [17:26:27] Is it important to have Kernals installed in Kubuntu. and how to check about kernals info. i mean i don't know if they are installed and are they too helpful with graphic card drivers? [19:06] [17:26:49] Even don't know what they are for :D [19:06] L3top,think it might be the post-release version that uses the .53 [19:07] cancer, I gave you a post this earler today explaining with urls etc [19:08] Joit: again... was just more of an fyi ;) [19:08] * L3top blew up his 1204 desktop this morning and has been too lazy to fix it. [19:10] ok , gonna switch drives ,,,check how my 12.04 install is doing [19:11] I suppose I could chroot real quick... [19:11] BluesKaj: is there anyother place to ask the same question? [19:11] any channel? [19:12] !kernel | cancer [19:12] cancer: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [19:12] cancer, read the first url [19:12] Candidate: 295.49-0ubuntu0.1 [19:13] BluesKaj: ^ [19:36] hi === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox [20:03] xbmc doesnt start says " Xbmc needs hardware accelerated opengl rendering" [20:04] xbmc was working perfectly until before i installed the nvidia binary drivers [20:21] phoenix_firebrd: Hi [20:21] cancer: hi [20:22] :) [20:22] phoenix_firebrd: will you help me? [20:22] cancer: sure [20:22] about graphics drivers. http://shitohichiumaya.blogspot.com/2012/01/using-nvidia-quadro-10000m-lenovo-w520.html?m=1 [20:23] there's something i'm thinking to try from this link. [20:23] just got confused on two points. [20:24] cancer: what is it? [20:25] Old is gold :-p [20:26] phoenix_firebrd: i'm confused about; which way to use, what come to my mind is 2nd. that worked :D, and the other confusion is about drivers 32bits\64bits. [20:27] cancer: what about 32/64 bit? [20:28] qouted from the link; 'sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run (I don't install the 32bit compatible OpenGL libs. That might cause a problem. Others I answer yes.)' [20:29] phoenix_firebrd: ^-^ [20:30] cancer: what is your kubuntu is it 32 bit or 64 bit? [20:30] cancer: why didnt you install 64 bit opengl libs? [20:31] phoenix_firebrd: i tried to confirm about kubuntu bit's but didn't find the way. [20:32] cancer: so is your kubuntu 32 or 64 bit [20:32] how to check that? [20:35] cancer: lsb_release -a [20:36] cancer: what does the first line say? [20:36] cancer: try "arch " command [20:36] No LSB modules are available. [20:37] i686 [20:39] phoenix_firebrd: arch | i686 [20:40] cancer: yours is 32 bit [20:40] cancer: install the opengl libs and drivers that are 32 bit [20:40] opengl libs, what if they are already installed. any query? [20:41] cancer: nvidia ships their own openGL libraries, so just install their 32bit driver [20:42] cancer: if its a default install do noting, but if you had installed a 64bit version with arch override then uninstall it and install the 32 bit one [20:42] cancer try getconf LONG_BIT [20:42] 32 [20:42] then its 32 [20:42] thanks. [20:43] Joit: this is the path to 64bits, will i get 32 by changing '64' from it. http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/290.10/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run&lang=us&type=GeForce [20:45] cancer: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us [20:45] no, software is written for the purpose, they use different commands and may variables, you only will mess up in the system [20:45] cancer: what is your graphics card? [20:45] phoenix_firebrd: Nvidia Quadro Fx 1000 [20:47] cancer: do you need to boost your graphic performance, or why are you loking so hard for an driver? [20:47] Joit: check this link, i'm trying to follow the instructions that shown in the link working. http://shitohichiumaya.blogspot.com/2012/01/using-nvidia-quadro-10000m-lenovo-w520.html?m=1 === len is now known as Guest6287 [20:48] Joit: that's a long story, in simple i have tried much, even with L3top and other members from here. what i'm trying now will be experimental. [20:49] cancer: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.31-driver.html [20:50] Joit: past few minutes i saw a word 'Nvidia' some discussion was on it & now i'm charged again to work on it. :D [20:50] phoenix_firebrd: are they 173 drivers current/recommended one's? [20:51] cancer: so you are at 11.04 but your card is a fx1000? [20:51] yes [20:51] Joit: NO, 11.10 [20:51] cancer: dont know about that but it says "Quadro ODE driver" [20:51] !ODE [20:51] cancer: dont know about that but it says "Quadro ODE graphics driver" [20:52] cancer: your better check this [20:52] chttp://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us [20:52] cancer: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us [20:53] phoenix_firebrd: i have it already opened. :) [20:53] cancer: select the appropriate options and download [20:55] cancer you could try to start grub with the option --nomodeset, you may can enter the kde menu to configure it further. btw, what do happen at the otther drivers ? [20:55] we tried nomodeset. [20:56] wait [20:56] cancer: did you boot it with strg-x? [20:57] or strg-g, not sure [20:57] hi all [20:57] hi [20:57] Hi [20:58] Joit: | phoenix_firebrd : http://paste.kde.org/486398/ [20:58] Korganizer and kmail and others don't work. talk about akonadi server is not working. What is needed to Akonadi work? [20:59] cancer: the resolution problem happens just during boot or exist even after login? [21:00] phoenix_firebrd: nope, that not like that. [21:00] cancer: explain [21:01] can't do that. that's now like a story. [21:01] it's almost time to disconnect, electricity shortfall here. :( any second from now can be happened for an hour. [21:02] * cancer Muwahhhhhhh [21:02] cancer: ok [21:03] cancer: trow that card out or get an other monitor lol [21:04] how do you connect them now both? [21:04] hi everyone [21:04] they have different adaptors [21:05] how to install java? [21:05] cancer lok in muon or your package manager for openjdk [21:09] cancer: i cant find any models for e72, the one i can find is e74 [21:10] yours is maybe a different brand? [21:10] Joit: sorry my mistake, e74 [21:10] that's it. [21:10] ah. yeah then i got it [21:10] how do you connect both? did you make cables by your own? [21:10] Joit: no, it's DVI connector. [21:10] i have a problem after an update. which log i cold check? i'm in /var/log/upstart, error semms to be related to ConsoleKit, btu i'm checvking /var/log/upstart/module-init-tools.log and i've found FATAL: Module rtv not found. what i can check? kdm start succesfully but i dont have any login prompt... [21:11] using Connector or can say adapter as well. [21:11] *FATAL: Modulertc not found [21:11] http://www.superwarehouse.com/IBM_E74_Black_17_CRT_Monitor/63324HN/ps/38577 it says here 15 mini sub [21:13] i would crude say, that the drivers suspect a dvi monitor [21:15] expects, is it [21:15] Joit: yes, that could be the issue, and so i'm searching for the proprietary nVidia Quadro driver to use all of the capabilities of your graphics card [21:17]