[00:02] <Celltech> I have 2.7ghx cpu, 120gb hdd, and 1gb ram... and my lubuntu is still slow, still glitching at simple things, and still acting like I don't have enough ram...
[00:20] <mysteriousdarren> is the swap turned on?
[01:11] <n1ckn4me09876543> where can i find the file to autostart a program? I found this when googling: "Search for startup applications from Dash home. Click open it."  idk what "dash" is
[02:09] <porwah> Hi, I setup a Lubuntu VM in VirtualBox.  I can't get my mouse to scroll.  I installed Fluxbox.  It doesn't scroll there either.
[02:09] <porwah> I've been messing with xorg.conf and haven't had any luck.
[02:09] <porwah> Any suggestions?
[02:16] <Unit193> You install the vbox extras?
[02:50] <porwah> Unit193, yes, I believe so
[02:50] <porwah> I've think I've installed them more than once
[02:51] <porwah> For that matter, I can't go full screen either.
[03:23] <Unit193> Weird, that normally goes well with me, wonder what he had.
[04:10] <AmberJ_> I have an atheros AR9285 wireless network adaptor. My laptop has a shortcut key to disable wifi when not in use. I used it to disable it.
[04:11] <AmberJ_> When I enabled it after sometime, I now get "Wireless networks disconnected" message in lubuntu task bar network management icon.
[04:12] <AmberJ_> When I right click on the icon in the lubuntu task bar, "Enable wireless" is checked/enabled...
[04:12] <AmberJ_> *networking icon
[04:13] <AmberJ_> 'lspci' output: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[05:33] <sere> is lubuntu 12.4 lts ?
[05:34] <jmarsden> sere: We don't have the developer resources to guarantee we can maintain a release for 5 years, so, I don't think is officially an LTS release.
[05:37] <Unit193> But the core/most things other than the LXDE components are.
[05:38] <Unit193> Lubuntu itself isn't.
[05:39] <jmarsden> lsb_release -d outputs Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  -- but thats because the lsb_release package is from Ubuntu 12.04, which is an LTS release.  So that is a little misleading/confusing.
[06:11] <AmberJ_> I had never installed x86-64bit lubuntu...
[06:11] <AmberJ_> I just got a new laptop and I am plannning to install 64-bit lubuntu.
[06:12] <AmberJ_> I guess 64-bit is as 'normal' as 32 bit lubuntu...
[06:12] <AmberJ_> Or, do I need to keep some issues in mind?
[06:19] <iceroot> AmberJ_: no it is the "same" as the 32bit version with the same programs
[06:19] <iceroot> AmberJ_: just with the ability to use more memory
[06:35] <AmberJ_> Thanks iceroot :)
[11:45] <porwah> Hi, I can't get my mouse to scroll in an Lubuntu virtual machine on VirtualBox.
[11:46] <porwah> I have Fluxbox installed and it doesn't scroll there.
[11:46] <porwah> It scrolls fine in a Xubuntu vm.
[11:46] <porwah> Any suggestions?
[18:15] <leszek> hi
[18:37] <n1ckn4me09876543> I need help autostarting a program when I log in
[18:38] <leszek> n1ckn4me09876543: what is exactly the problem ?
[18:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> I put the code  "@/usr/share/conkycolors/bin/conkyStart"    also tried "/usr/share/conkycolors/bin/conkyStart &" in /.config/lxsession/Lubuntu but nothing happens
[18:40] <leszek> have you checked the process monitor to see if it is maybe running in the background ?
[18:41] <n1ckn4me09876543> Task Manager? i dont see the program name in it
[18:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> i went to the directory of conkyStart and execute the file and it works,  just something wrong with autostart, i tried to autostart galculator and it ran fine
[18:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> so idk what im missing here
[18:43] <leszek> perhaps the script only works, if it is run from within the /usr/share/conkycolors/bin/ directory
[18:44] <n1ckn4me09876543> my home folder is encrypted do you think that contributes to the problem?
[18:44] <leszek> you could try creating a script that executes the commands you do when manually starting conkyStart (i.e. cd /usr/share/conkycolors/bin/ ; ./conkyStart) and add it to your autostart
[18:45] <leszek> it should be decrypted already when you entered your password at login
[18:46] <n1ckn4me09876543> this is the code inside conkyStart file   #!/bin/bash
[18:46] <n1ckn4me09876543> sleep 25 && conky -c ~/.conkycolors/conkyrc;
[18:46] <leszek> hmm... ok
[18:46] <n1ckn4me09876543> so how do I add that to autostart
[18:46] <leszek> this should work than nevertheless
[18:47] <leszek> is the script set to be executable ?
[18:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> yea
[18:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> File Properties> Make the file executable
[18:48] <n1ckn4me09876543> if i try to do autostart of      @conky     another conky start up with weird looking stats lol
[18:48] <leszek> ok than there should be an error message that indicates why it does not start
[18:49] <n1ckn4me09876543> how can i find that error
[18:49] <leszek> try lookint into ~/.xsession-errors
[18:49] <leszek> perhaps you can find something regarding conky there
[18:51] <n1ckn4me09876543> i found a lot of this  (lubuntu-software-center:1756): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[18:51] <n1ckn4me09876543> then one of this (pcmanfm:1658): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_entry_get_text: assertion `GTK_IS_ENTRY (entry)' failed
[18:51] <n1ckn4me09876543> but no conky
[19:07] <n1ckn4me09876543> brb gonna reboot trying something else
[19:09] <xerxes> hi im having some trouble with Lubuntu 10.04 the thing is that while in pcmanfm
[19:09] <xerxes> i can navigate without problem in my Desktop folder between the icons with arrow keys and run the apps with enter key.. BUT
[19:09] <xerxes> while native on my desktop i cant navigate the icons at all and when pressing enter nothing happens why is that?
[19:11] <holstein> xerxes: what icons? the ones on the desktop? i dont think thats a feature
[19:11] <xerxes> holstein: exactly
[19:11] <xerxes> for example qmmp desktop icon
[19:11] <xerxes> and chrome desktop icon
[19:11] <holstein> xerxes: i dont think thats something that is supposed to happen
[19:12] <xerxes> ehm me neither :S
[19:12] <holstein> im sure you can make it happen
[19:12] <xerxes> i dont know why this happend
[19:12] <xerxes> or how i repair it..
[19:12] <holstein> xerxes: im not sure it ever worked
[19:12] <xerxes> feels quite stupid to reinstall for this issue..
[19:12] <holstein> xerxes: i would try a new user temporarily
[19:12] <holstein> or try with a live CD
[19:13] <xerxes> well i could try a new user
[19:13] <xerxes> i modded my Lubuntu
[19:13] <xerxes> so it will autologin
[19:13] <xerxes> /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[19:13] <holstein> cool... you should be able to logout and log in as a different user temporarily as a test
[19:14] <holstein> pretty sure thats not a feature for LXDE
[19:14] <holstein> i dont use icons to launch like that, so i have tried
[19:14] <holstein> and i dont have LXDE in front of me, and the version i do have is 12.04
[19:15] <xerxes> no it's 10.04
[19:15] <xerxes> or more exactly Mint 9
[19:15] <holstein> xerxes: correct
[19:15] <xerxes> but it's based on 10.04
[19:15] <xerxes> and no a new user didnt work :(
[19:15] <xerxes> same thing
[19:16] <holstein> xerxes: *i* *have* 12.04 installed
[19:16] <holstein> xerxes: correct.. i dont think what you want happens in LXDE
[19:16] <xerxes> well i could use pcmanfm and just use "single click"
[19:16] <holstein> xerxes: mint can break that though
[19:16] <xerxes> dont think its a mint issue
[19:16] <holstein> xerxes: i would ask in a mint channel on spotchat
[19:16] <xerxes> if you look at this thread
[19:16] <holstein> xerxes: i dont think its an issue at all
[19:17] <xerxes> http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=lxde%20run%20apps%20enter&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CGAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.lxde.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D8%26t%3D31354&ei=J4m-T4DVEILdtAalsPTFDQ&usg=AFQjCNE2KAOZ31F7Dj2qSByvqczPwCT_Sw
[19:17] <holstein> xerxes: i dont think its something that is supposed to occur is what im saying
[19:17] <holstein> the feature is not there
[19:17] <holstein> nothing is broken
[19:17] <xerxes> holstein: ok so it's like a bug ?
[19:17] <holstein> its not supposed to do that
[19:17] <holstein> xerxes: nope
[19:17] <holstein> xerxes: its not a feature, is what im proposing
[19:17] <xerxes> nope
[19:17] <holstein> xerxes: the functionality you seek is not present
[19:17] <xerxes> hmm :/
[19:17] <xerxes> dont know why that functionality was lost for me though
[19:18] <xerxes> also one more thing
[19:18] <holstein> xerxes: how was it lost?
[19:18] <holstein> xerxes: when did it work?
[19:18] <xerxes> well
[19:18] <holstein> xerxes: have you asked in a mint support channel?
[19:18] <xerxes> it started with that i wanted to remove cups
[19:18] <xerxes> and like.. a loot of packages were uninstalled i know really stupid of me
[19:18] <xerxes> but then i dint have any window manager installed so i said oh well fuck it.. i just fix it myself
[19:19] <holstein> xerxes: mint is quite customized.. i would try a lubuntu live CD.. see if that funtionality is there
[19:19] <xerxes> im more in to try peppermint
[19:19] <xerxes> if i would go for something completely new
[19:19] <holstein> i would try something like kupfer as a launcher
[19:19] <holstein> xerxes: peppermint is quite a bit like lubuntu
[19:19] <holstein> its a custom LXDE
[19:19] <xerxes> yeah
[19:19] <holstein> quite nice.. those guys live near me actually
[19:20] <xerxes> but when im thinking
[19:20] <xerxes> it feels quite stupid to reinstall for this issue...
[19:20] <holstein> xerxes: agreed
[19:20] <xerxes> i mean i could just open pcmanfm
[19:20] <holstein> xerxes: maybe try kupfer
[19:20] <xerxes> and go to desktop folder and voila
[19:20] <xerxes> ok will try kupfer
[19:20] <holstein> xerxes: or just another FM
[19:20] <holstein> xerxes: or fixing what you borked by visiting a mint channel with what you removed
[19:21] <xerxes> i can confirm that this package is a bit weird..
[19:21] <xerxes> 1 moment
[19:21] <holstein> this package?
[19:21] <holstein> you'll need to report those for the mint team
[19:21] <xerxes> holstein: mint-lxde-default-settings - This Package contains the default system settings for Linux Mint LXDE Edition.
[19:22] <xerxes> when i try to install it
[19:22] <xerxes> i get dependencie error telling me this
[19:22] <holstein> xerxes: sure.. thats mint specific though
[19:22] <xerxes> The following packages have unmet dependencies: mint-lxde-default-settings: Depends: pcmanfm2 but it is not installable
[19:22] <holstein> you could try installing lubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <holstein> or using the -f flag
[19:22] <xerxes> apt-get -f install ?
[19:22] <holstein> OR asking in a mint channel!
[19:23] <holstein> im not sure whats up with the mint versions of packages
[19:23] <xerxes> holstein: do you possibly know how to get the trash bin in pcmanfm ?
[19:23] <xerxes> on the left hand side bar ?
[19:23] <holstein> OR what you have forced already that could be causing breakage
[19:23] <holstein> xerxes: i dont know what bar you have placed on the left hand sie
[19:23] <holstein> side*
[19:23] <holstein> is it an LXDE panel?
[19:23] <xerxes> no in pcmanfm
[19:23] <xerxes> you have a sidebar
[19:24] <xerxes> like there are mounted volumes
[19:24] <holstein> i dont have mint
[19:24] <xerxes> your download folder
[19:24] <xerxes> your home folder
[19:24] <holstein> i dont know what they have customized
[19:24] <xerxes> your Desktop "folder"
[19:24] <holstein> but those are "bookmarks" or "shortcuts"
[19:24] <xerxes> yes
[19:24] <xerxes> do you know how to add trash bin there?
[19:24] <holstein> and you should be able to remove the ~/.config file if you have borked it
[19:24] <xerxes> i copied mine
[19:25] <xerxes> from mint and changed name
[19:25] <xerxes> to lxde-rc
[19:25] <holstein> cool
[19:25] <xerxes> or what the hell the name was :p the standard one
[19:25] <holstein> i would ask in a mint channel then
[19:31] <xerxes> holstein: hi again
[20:15] <lubuntu_op> Evening mates ,I just installed Lubuntu 12.04 and smplayar crashes with this error in his log http://pastebin.com/BKhXZNzV
[20:16] <lubuntu_op> and flash games (which worked on Linux Mint 12 LXDE and Fedora 16) are sluggish and "slow" on Lubuntu .Any way to change that
[20:18] <Unit193> That looks more like the command it's passing to mplayer than an error, and what package of flash do you have?
[20:18] <Unit193> dpkg -l |grep flash
[20:20] <lubuntu_op> Unit193: ii  flashplugin-installer                11.2.202.235ubuntu0.12.04.1             Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[20:21] <Unit193> I don't think it'll help at all, but I always recommend adobe-flashplugin from the !partner repo.
[20:22] <lubuntu_op> Ill try firefox ,maybe there will be a different effect
[20:24] <lubuntu_op> I just hope it isnt Xorg related issue bcs I gave up last ubuntu (11.04 if I remember correctly) due to my AGP ATI x1050 card
[20:26] <lewellyn> tbh, i would have given up on ubuntu if it wasn't for the fact that the software i need has os requirements that intersect at xp32 or ubuntu32. can't get multi-card video working :/
[20:26] <lewellyn> (also, hi!)
[20:27] <lewellyn> but i do have a more pressing question... how do i stop the notifications from showing up every minute or so that my nics with unplugged cables are disconnected? :/
[20:28] <lubuntu_op> So far best distro (with almost everything working out of box ) was Mint 12 lxde ,for me at least . I just hope I can tweak lubuntu  to work same or better.
[20:28] <lubuntu_op> (and yea ,Hi :))
[20:28] <lewellyn> i don't want to outright disable them, but just get rid of the notifications
[20:29] <lewellyn> i have 4 nics with unplugged cables, so it's getting mighty annoying ;)
[20:30] <lubuntu_op> Well try at #ubuntu ,there is more ppl there and maybe they can help you
[20:31] <lewellyn> i thought that was an lxde widget thing
[20:32] <lubuntu_op> I would like to help you but Im new to lubuntu :D My only advice is to google like hell
[20:34] <lewellyn> oh, wait. i have nm-Fapplet running. i swear i didn't see that before
[20:34] <lewellyn> er. wtf. i got a "F" when the popup occurred that time O_o
[20:35] <lubuntu_op> fapplet
[20:35] <lubuntu_op> nice
[20:36] <lubuntu_op> video works normal in vlc but smplayer fails :/
[20:38] <lewellyn> oh joy. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/445872
[20:38] <lewellyn> this is just not my week
[20:40] <lubuntu_op> try to configure flash and xorg on my pc :D Thats a suicide mission
[20:40] <lewellyn> i'm guessing there isn't a lubuntu-specific replacement for nm-applet? ;)
[20:54] <lubuntu_op> anyone here use Truecrypt?
[20:56] <lewellyn> hm. i'm starting to see screen corruption. this can't be good :/
[20:56] <lubuntu_op> how do you mean?
[20:56] <lubuntu_op> artefacts or?
[20:57] <lubuntu_op> artifacts*
[20:58] <lewellyn> i can't describe them. i'm doing enough that my screen redraws before i can sit and figure out what i'm seeing.
[20:58] <lewellyn> it's happened in 3 apps so far though.
[20:59] <lubuntu_op> any extra drivers for your card at Preferences -> Additional Drivers?
[21:01] <lewellyn> "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[21:01] <lewellyn> :)
[21:01] <lewellyn> http://www.greenviolet.net/paste/1337893303.html is my lspci ;)
[21:04] <lubuntu_op> Like I said Im new to this but as much as I can read you have integrated graphic card.  As before I think guys at #ubuntu will react faster with advices ,especially to a woman :D
[21:05] <lewellyn> i know it's an integrated card. and there are no proprietary drivers available. ;)
[21:05] <lewellyn> and i'm not female...
[21:06] <lewellyn> but now to reboot so i can pull out the 4-port nic :(
[21:07] <lubuntu_op> Good luck and sorry for misunderstanding ;)
[21:09] <lewellyn> well, at least now i don't have constant "network disconnected" popups. now i'll just get to reboot relatively often to swap the nic in and out :/
[21:12] <Guest14322> has anyone managed it to get u1sdtool (Ubuntu One) working with appropriate proxy settings?
[21:14] <Guest14322> there is a ubuntuone-client-proxy package but I don't know from where this tool tries to read proxy settings
[21:14] <lewellyn> probably the gnome configuration, would be my guess
[21:16] <Guest14322> another question - is lubuntu based on gnome or gtk?
[21:16] <Guest14322> and the gnome configuration can be found in .gconf?
[21:17] <lubuntu_op> So any way Truecrypt can be set to open tc container without manually opening it in /media?
[21:19] <lewellyn> Guest14322: as for the lubuntu question, the FAQ in the channel topic may be useful
[21:20] <lewellyn> i would assume that you can use gconftool-2 and/or gsettings to alter the proxy info
[21:25] <Guest14322> lewellyn: very interesting, found some proxy related schemas and keys pointing to host and port settings - thanks for the hint
[21:26] <Guest14322> does it matter which of these tools I use?
[21:26] <Guest14322> especially under Lubuntu?
[21:26] <lewellyn> probably :)
[21:27] <Guest14322> ok, so I have to try it out
[21:27] <lewellyn> there's probably a package you can install which exposes the gnome proxy configuration as a gui for you
[21:31] <Guest14322> lewellyn: lxproxy looks promising
[21:32] <Guest14322> I will give it tomorrow a try
[21:32] <Guest14322> hm, cannot be found in the official repos
[21:33] <Guest14322> what a pity
[21:34] <Guest14322> bye
[21:59] <lubuntu_op> is there any safe setting for bleach bit?
[21:59] <lubuntu_op> dont wonna mess up anything
[22:00] <Unit193> That program is just supposed to clean/wipe files of other programs and not the system, so without looking at it I'd think it should be safe enough, what would make you think otherwise?
[22:13] <lubuntu_op> Well on windows I know what i safe (more/less) on ubuntu I can only trust bleach bit devs :D
[22:37] <lubuntu_op> Well Im off ,so far lubuntu seems really  fast,(so far) stable and good looking. Good night
[22:37] <wxl> that's cuz it is :)
[22:59] <lewellyn> wxl: i can't concur on the stability point, as stability also includes "doesn't require you to remove cards to shut up the os" in my book :/
[23:00] <lewellyn> but so far, it looks to be ubuntu bugs, not lubuntu-specific, at least!
[23:00] <wxl> yeah haven't had that issue lewellyn
[23:02] <lewellyn> wxl: i've had 3 issues so far... 1) cannot successfully boot with pci video card installed alongside the onboard graphics (unique to ubuntu). 2) network manager insists upon constantly reminding me that 4 nic ports are disconnected. 3) i got a notification that my keyboard's batteries are dead. it's ps/2 :/
[23:05] <wxl> 1. never had that problem before and i have such a situation tho that computer does not have 12.04 on it yet
[23:05] <wxl> 2. network-manager is a pain sometimes. try wicd.
[23:06] <wxl> 3. try removing bluetooth modules
[23:06] <wxl> lewellyn: ^
[23:06] <lewellyn> 1. i suspect the problem would be lessened if the secondary monitor supported more than 2 resolutions. :/
[23:06] <lewellyn> 2. isn't wicd for wireless?
[23:06] <wxl> ohhh right right
[23:06] <lewellyn> 3. i plan on adding a bluetooth dongle when things upset me less
[23:07] <wxl> wicd does wired and wireless
[23:07] <lewellyn> hm.
[23:08] <wxl> maybe it thinks you have a usb keyboard?
[23:08] <wxl> i would try removing bluetooth modules first and see if that is indeed the problem with the keyboard
[23:08] <wxl> if not then you can look at what usb keyboard driver it's loading and disable that
[23:09] <lewellyn> i'm atm considering whether to stick with ubuntu on this box though. it's been almost a week and i'm still not in a usable state. and it looks like one of the pieces of software i installed for (trying to do common-denominator os thing across multiple software products) may not actually have a linux build right now :/
[23:09] <lewellyn> i'm just confused why it'd say a ps/2 keyboard has low batteries. i couldn't get it to recognize my usb keyboard so i had to whip out a ps/2 keyboard
[23:09] <wxl> now it may have detected a usb keyboard
[23:10] <wxl> so it loaded usb keybaord modules
[23:10] <lewellyn> but there are none :/
[23:10] <wxl> right now, you're sure?
[23:10] <wxl> go through modprobe -l and check
[23:11] <lewellyn> http://www.greenviolet.net/paste/1337901059.html is my lsusb output
[23:11] <wxl> go through modprobe -l
[23:12] <lewellyn> lewellyn@ghoul:~$ modprobe -l|grep usb|wc -l
[23:12] <lewellyn> 264
[23:12] <lewellyn> ugh
[23:12] <wxl> i wouldn't necessarily expect it to be named "usb"
[23:12] <wxl> i don't have a usb keyboard so i don't know
[23:12] <lewellyn> that was to cut it down from 3526 lines
[23:12] <wxl> but drivers tend to have unexpected names
[23:13] <lewellyn> kernel/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbkbd.ko
[23:13] <lewellyn> i think that's always loaded though
[23:14] <lewellyn> without the hid drivers, it can't detect if you plug in a hid device iirc
[23:14] <lewellyn> but as my lsusb shows, i don't actually have anything plugged into a usb port
[23:16] <lewellyn> oh wait. that's a mouse hooked up on the last line
[23:17] <lewellyn> it's about time for me to go and have coffee before i start ranting about how, after a dozen years of "this is the year of the linux desktop!", it's far from it.