 oh the other os im trying to install its some os i found on warez
 Windows Mac OS Pro Xp 2012
 ?
[05:28] <bazhang> thats a nasty hostmask if I am reading the spanish correctly
[05:28] <Madpilot> the guy you just showed the door in #u?
  why was I banned?
[05:29] <bazhang> Madpilot, yep ^
[05:31] <Madpilot> lovely
[05:38] <bazhang> lymon back with more nonsense
[06:11] <bazhang> * [omenz] (~vx@112.135.208.19): unknown
[06:11] <bazhang> this looks like that user 'poison crew' known troll
 bazhang how do I google?
[06:15] <bazhang> not going to respond...
[06:17] <Madpilot> lmgtfy
[06:17] <Madpilot> just saying
[06:17] <Madpilot> and yes, I know we usually discourage that sort of thing
[06:17] <Tm_T> just no
[06:18] <bazhang> yeah. so not going to respond, I value the CoC
 nm6 shut tht anus pls will ya   that was omenz /poison crew
[07:20] <Tm_T> ...then who are you? (: ^
[07:20] <bioterror> the another fella
[07:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> Not that guy for sure :)
[07:32] <jussi> oh dear... they let IAmNotThatGuy in here? :P
[07:32] <Tm_T> jussi: unfortunately
[07:33] <jussi> poor us :P
[07:33]  * jussi hugs IAmNotThatGuy
[07:33] <bioterror> this is like from the "Spaceballs" the moment when the apes sees spaceballs coming out of the maids nose
[07:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> Jussi Ohai :)
[07:33]  * IAmNotThatGuy hugs back
[07:33] <bioterror> "there goes our planet"
[07:35] <jussi> Tm_T: and if you want to know who he is... see his hostmask.. ;)
[07:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Talking about that guy????
[07:44] <Tm_T> jussi: that's not the point (:
[11:58] <bazhang> piracy!!!
[11:58] <bazhang> bwhaha
[11:59] <bazhang> good movie though
[16:46] <tonyyarusso> Did Ubuntu stop using -security as a separate repository section?  I keep noticing my MOTD saying things are security updates, but they're coming from the normal -updates, and it's throwing off my monitoring software.
[16:49] <topyli> tonyyarusso: -security is working for me. maybe you should try another mirror
[16:49] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Hrm, this is with the main archive.  Weird....
[16:49] <topyli> let me check. i did get updates this morning
[16:49] <tsimpson> I think they push to both -security and -updates
[16:51] <topyli> yep, at least my finnish mirror works
[16:53] <tonyyarusso> See http://pastebin.com/Y1yDY67Q
[16:54] <tonyyarusso> and the same thing on precise:  http://pastebin.com/KLxRvnt5
[16:56] <popey> i thought -security was the central one so guaranteed to be right even if mirrors are messed with
[16:56] <popey> but packages go to both -security and -updates, so they hit mirrors
[16:57] <tonyyarusso> hmm
[16:58] <tonyyarusso> Well, *something* has changed, because a year and a half ago when I was writing up something with this an apt-get -s upgrade would show them as coming from -security.
[16:58] <tonyyarusso> I wonder if there's a priority preference somewhere now.
[17:01] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I can confirm that they go both places - if I comment out -updates in my sources list and update, it shows the same packages as coming from security.
[17:30] <tsimpson> tonyyarusso: it's probably just sorted alphabetically and the first one with the file is chosen
[17:35] <tonyyarusso> tsimpson: Maybe...  There seem to be various Priority and Default-Release preferences for APT, but I'm not quite clear how to use them yet.
[17:36] <tsimpson> apt has an "interesting" configuration scheme
[18:04] <topyli> i like that. "interesting". like breezy badger was "special"
[18:05] <Myrtti> nothing beat Warty
[18:05] <Myrtti> it was painful enough that I updated it to Breezy immediately
[18:05] <topyli> well warty really was special
[18:06] <topyli> using it during development was what i would call "special". but i don't think anyone really though someone would actually use it. it was not linux for human beings
[18:08] <jussi> it was quite simply... warty! :D
[18:09] <topyli> :)
[18:10] <topyli> hey, it had the latest gnome! debian's gnome team was lagging a bit at the time, and ubuntu managed to recruit a few great gnome people
[18:11] <topyli> who cares if x crashed, gnome was up to date! :)
[18:12] <Myrtti> I'm still bitter about the 6.06.1 update
[18:12] <Myrtti> or the one before it
[18:13] <jussi> bah, and here I was thinking this was -offtopic...
[18:13] <topyli> it often is :)
[18:19] <mneptok> nedz moar kittehs
[20:13] <tonyyarusso> Huh.  The priorities in 'policy' seem right, but then it grabs the wrong one.
[20:13] <tonyyarusso>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages
[20:13] <tonyyarusso>         990 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main i386 Packages
[21:39] <jpds> tonyyarusso: We certainly want people to get packages from -updates rather than -security if they're there.
[21:40] <jpds> tonyyarusso: security.u.c == a small number of hosts.
[21:40] <jpds> tonyyarusso: People go there first to get the security fixes quick.
[21:40] <jpds> tonyyarusso: Then as the mirrors catch up, people go to -updates with their respective mirror instead.
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> jpds: Okay, that much makes sense, but doesn't explain a) Why that wouldn't act on the hostname instead of release, and b) why it seems to be in direct conflict with the priorities APT is displaying.
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> jpds: My paste just has the defaults from installation, but normally I would have it set to all of those lines being a local repository mirror, so -updates and -security are coming from the same location.