[00:04] Excellent. It is a really sweet area. === ryaxnb_ is now known as ryaxnb === Faqtotum is now known as DonkeyHotei === Faqtotum is now known as DonkeyHotei [07:11] this channel dies when I am most awake [07:11] We need a CA nighttime users group! [07:39] philipballew: ok, but you bring the snacks [18:12] Hello California... Bruce in Lake County, just outside Middletown (100 mi North of Oakland) just dropping in after being away from Ubuntu for a few years. [18:14] hi, BA707 [18:15] Greetings akk... [18:15] Where are you in CA ? [18:16] I'm in San Jose. [18:18] welcome BA707 [18:18] Greeting Pleia2. [18:19] Ah yes.. where it all began... San Jose and Sunnyvale.. ;) [18:19] silly-con valley [18:19] LOL [18:19] exactly [18:19] thank you [18:20] been through there several time when I was living in West Oak. [18:21] Not quite as scenic as where you are now. [18:21] aamof, was on my way to a concert in SJ when I got my LeBaron totaled. Never made the concert :( [18:22] true, very true. But more work to be had.. It's tough to survive up here, due to the lack of jobs. [18:22] Not much discretionary income out here for hiring a 'Computer Consultant' now days.. [18:23] But I flatly refuse to put myself in the place of the stress that comes with the corporate race. [18:23] at 55 (err 56 in a few days), that would not be healthy for me. [18:26] Need to do some updates. Using v10.04 Desktop from the ISO, and having some minor problems with it. Does anyone have advice on which updates to let Lucid do ? Or should I just let it run-free and do them ALL ? [18:27] no updates applied at this point [18:27] fresh install [18:28] A fresh install of 2-year-old Lucid? [18:29] in general I'd just let all the updates get applied, did you just download the iso (so.. 10.04.4) or an old iso? [18:29] yup.. that's the burn I had available. [18:29] I'd do all the updates, since they'll mostly be security updates, but why not update to Pangolin? [18:29] 12.04 is really nice [18:29] d/l it a couple years ago. started out with v8.04 LTS from the mailed CD set. [18:30] can the update to 12+ be dome online ? Or should I nuke and start from scratch ? [18:30] done [18:31] it can be, but if it's already a fresh install it would be faster to just reinstall [18:31] You can do it online -- there's a gui upgrade manager or commandline do-release-upgrade [18:31] As I recall that is in the Admin menu, yes ? [18:31] I'm not sure it's faster to install if you include time to download another ISO, then burn it, then install it, then get all the updates. [18:32] But it might be marginally safer (you know you get a clean install, no upgrade issues). [18:32] well, first you need to apply all the updates to 10.04, which is most likely a bigger download than a 700M iso [18:33] some of the updates to 10.04 smooth the transition to 12.04, otherwise it'll be a bit of a mess :\ [18:33] True, but I am not 100% sure about my burner at this point, I had started to have some issues with ISO burns on my last couple attempts testing other distros. [18:34] think I'll try the update path first and see if that completes. [18:34] I probably would -- burners are a hassle. Mine seem to die every other time I try to use them. [18:34] I'll do the scty updates first, then apply the misc, and see how that goes.. [18:35] (which admittedly is once or twice a year ... apparently they don't like sitting idle.) [18:35] Doing the updates is probably a waste of time if you're about to upgrade to a different release. [18:35] Except that you do want to make sure apt-get and do-release-upgrade are as current as possible. [18:36] * akk goes off to a meeting -- good luck, BA707! [18:37] You got THAT right.. I even started using a head cleaner on a regular basis, but to no avail... I'll be glad when we progress to the little crystaline 'sugar cube' for our data storage.. ;) [18:37] Thanks akk.. I'm going to go grab a cup of tea and watch the update here.. Thanks.. [18:39] pleia2: And I thank you for your advice... Sounds like I may have a chance.. You now have me hungry to try 12+ [18:39] * BA707 is closing apps to attempt the updates... [20:56] bkerensa: any luck with that guy? [20:59] Faqtotum: Waiting on response... I told him if he comes out tomorrow to NE I will buy it from him before I leave town Saturday morning but if not I asked if he can take Paypal and ship it to California to DonkeyHotei [21:00] that's me [21:00] if you get it before you leave, are you by any chance headed this way? [21:02] Faqtotum: lol not a chance :P im just going to a diff town in Oregon [21:02] Faqtotum: I thought it was for DonkeyHotei ? [21:02] Faqtotum: the guy says he will take paypal verified and ship? [21:04] raevol you made it@ [21:04] ! [21:04] * bkerensa poofs off to run errands [21:05] * Faqtotum is DonkeyHotei\ [21:06] all these crazy people with so many nik's [21:08] so confusing [21:09] people might not like if my name was both philip and betty at the same time. [22:05] philipballew: \o/ [23:30] jtatum: ah, just got my alert for the -us linode migration [23:32] going a lot slower than I imagined :) still haven't gotten one for my second linode [23:32] haven't gotten one for my personal one yet [23:33] i suppose it's a lot of work that they don't want to do all at once [23:33] * pleia2 nods [23:35] pleia2: your migrating away? :P [23:36] bkerensa: no, linode is doing hardware upgrades of all their systems, so they're creating tickets and migrating hosts [23:37] pleia2: ahh fun times