[06:54] <inetpro> good morning
[07:42] <Squirm> ooooh, Pretoria tomorrow
[09:53] <charlvn> Squirm: what's happening in pretoria tomorrow?
[10:05] <superfly> morning
[10:05] <superfly> er, afternoon
[10:31] <charlvn> hi superfly 
[10:39] <superfly> hey charlvn
[12:35] <zeref> ...
[12:37] <charlvn> hi zeref 
[14:45] <zeref> finally finished programming project
[14:45] <zeref> :D
[16:20] <inetpro> zeref: well done
[16:20] <inetpro> zeref: have you submitted?
[16:57] <mazal> Evening all
[17:09] <smile> hi :p
[17:12] <Banlam> smile is always so happy :)
[17:12] <smile> yes :)
[17:12] <smile> it's hot :p
[17:12] <smile> outside :)
[17:12] <Banlam> really
[17:13] <Banlam> you're in belgium or somewhere?
[17:13] <Banlam> or am i getting people mixed ip?
[17:13] <Banlam> up*
[17:14] <smile> belgium :D
[17:14] <smile> :)
[17:15] <Banlam> is that a yes?
[17:22] <smile> Banlam: jap! :)
[17:22] <smile> :p
[17:22] <smile> Banlam: and you are from south africa :p
[17:23] <Banlam> I am yes
[17:24] <smile> ^^
[17:29] <smile> cool :)
[17:29] <smile> Banlam: in europe it's very hot atm
[17:29] <smile> there also? :p
[17:29] <Banlam> haha
[17:29] <Banlam> not really
[17:30] <Banlam> it doesn't get as cold as winters there
[17:30] <Banlam> but we don't consider it warm
[17:32] <smile> how "warm"? :p
[17:32] <smile> :)
[17:34] <Banlam> where I am it never drops below 0, if it drops below 5 I'll be surprised
[17:34] <Banlam> the weeks forecast is min 10 max 20 most days
[17:34] <Banlam> which is chilly
[17:34] <Banlam> but some warm clothes and one is comforable
[17:35] <smile> yes :)
[17:35]  * smile is jealous :p
[17:35] <Banlam> haha
[17:35] <smile> minus 5 is not unusual :p
[17:36] <smile> and in summer it's 23 - 32 :)
[17:39]  * Banlam likes the 'cold'
[17:44] <charlvn> hi all
[17:44] <highvoltage> howdy
[17:44] <inetpro> good evening 
[17:44] <charlvn> hi highvoltage 
[17:44] <charlvn> hi inetpro 
[17:44] <inetpro> wb highvoltage
[17:45] <highvoltage> how are things?
[17:45] <charlvn> hi Banlam, smile 
[17:45] <Banlam> gd evening
[17:45] <charlvn> highvoltage: good good, long time no speak to, yourself?
[17:45] <inetpro> highvoltage: cool in Pretoria and there?
[17:45] <highvoltage> charlvn: yep doing good thanks
[17:46] <highvoltage> inetpro: 27°C here
[17:46] <inetpro> yikes
[17:46] <inetpro> highvoltage: in Canada?
[17:46] <highvoltage> yeah. there is a few weeks of nice weather every year, at least :)
[17:47] <inetpro> nice to see #ubuntu-za gathering a few foreigners in here
[17:47] <inetpro> not that highvoltage is a foreigner of course
[17:48] <highvoltage> nah mars is a local planet
[17:48] <inetpro> :-)
[17:48] <charlvn> irc is teh international
[17:49] <inetpro> highvoltage: how's things going with edubuntu?
[17:49] <highvoltage> inetpro: taking on a lot of work for the next cycle, reviving the server part and also dabbling with tablets. 12.04 was a very good release.
[17:49] <inetpro> sounds good
[17:50] <inetpro> at least you still sound as passionate as ever
[17:51] <highvoltage> nah I just have no life :)
[17:51] <inetpro> haha
[17:52] <charlvn> live is for noobs
[17:52] <charlvn> *life
[17:52] <smile> charlvn: hi! :D
[17:52] <highvoltage> yeah
[17:52] <charlvn> live is not for noobs because irc is live
[17:53] <smile> inetpro: i'm not foreign :p i'm a belg! :p
[17:53] <inetpro> heh smile, you just keep smiling!
[17:53] <inetpro> :-)
[17:53] <smile> I will ;)
[17:53] <smile> :)
[17:54] <charlvn> smile: flemish, walloon or german?
[17:54] <inetpro> wallon?
[17:54] <inetpro> walloon*
[17:54] <smile> charlvn: flemish of course! :p
[17:55]  * smile spreekt Nederlands
[17:55] <smile> :p
[17:55] <charlvn> ah ok nee dat is goed dan :P
[17:55] <smile> :p
[17:55] <smile> charlvn: jij ook? :o
[17:55] <Kerbero> hey
[17:55] <Kerbero> english here
[17:55] <inetpro> first time ever that I heard about walloon
[17:55] <charlvn> inetpro: a walloon is a french-speaking belgian, they live in the southern parts of belgium
[17:55] <smile> Kerbero: jaja :p
[17:55] <Kerbero> :P
[17:55] <inetpro> charlvn: I just checked on wikipedia
[17:56] <inetpro> very interesting
[17:56] <inetpro> never to old to learn
[17:56] <smile> inetpro: so is Vlaams. :p
[17:56] <charlvn> smile: nee ik ben een nederlander ;)
[17:56] <smile> :p
[17:56] <Kerbero> *Flemmish
[17:57] <charlvn> Kerbero: wtfbbqktnxbye (does that qualify as english?)
[17:57] <inetpro> smile: as jy Vlaams praat dan verstaan jy waarskynlik ook Afrikaans
[17:57] <Kerbero> ja hy doen
[17:57] <Kerbero> ek praat baie afrikaans met hom
[17:57] <Kerbero> maar in #ubuntu-afr
[17:57] <Kerbero> waar dit hoort
[17:58] <inetpro> Kerbero: I've noticed that :-)
[17:58] <smile> inetpro: ja, ek verstaan afrikaans :p
[17:59] <charlvn> Kerbero: why is afrikaans not allowed in this #, it's an official language of south africa yes?
[17:59] <Kerbero> long story
[17:59] <Kerbero> not banned
[17:59] <Kerbero> but english is preffered here
[17:59] <charlvn> is xhosa or zulu allowed here?
[17:59] <smile> charlvn: if you can speak it ;)
[18:00] <Kerbero> i doubt it
[18:00] <Kerbero> lol
[18:00] <charlvn> or swetswana or venda etc
[18:00] <Kerbero> all 11?
[18:00] <charlvn> smile: lol i don't haha
[18:00] <Kerbero> north and south sotho?
[18:00] <inetpro> charlvn: nobody banned Afrikaans in here
[18:00] <charlvn> i wonder if it's possible to type bushmen language
[18:00] <Kerbero> ja
[18:00] <Kerbero> a lot o !'s and \'s
[18:01] <smile> :)
[18:01] <charlvn> lol
[18:01] <Kilos> good evening superfly smile and others
[18:01] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[18:01] <Kilos> lo charlvn 
[18:01] <superfly> hi oom Kilos
[18:01] <Kerbero> example: http://www.mieliestronk.com/landwapen.html
[18:01] <inetpro> charlvn: but when there's a lot of chatter in Afrikaans it's better to move to the dedicated channel because not everyone can understand it in here
[18:01] <Kerbero> a lot of !'s and /'s
[18:02] <inetpro> all depends on the situation
[18:02] <charlvn> inetpro: it's a surprise people don't complain about the dutch in here... especially since it's not even a south african language :P
[18:02] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[18:02] <Kilos> hiya inetpro 
[18:02] <Kerbero> lol
[18:02] <inetpro> wb superfly
[18:02] <superfly> thanks inetpro
[18:03] <smile> good evening Kilos 
[18:03] <smile> no parlare espagnol? :p
[18:03] <Kilos> nein
[18:04] <Kerbero> nyen
[18:04] <inetpro> smile: heh!
[18:04] <Kerbero> *nyet
[18:04] <Kilos> aikona
[18:04] <Kerbero> haha
[18:04] <Kilos> you guys all well??
[18:05] <smile> Kilos: ;)
[18:05] <smile> I don't speak Spanish :)
[18:05] <Kerbero> <thumbs up>
[18:05] <Kilos> nice to see some action here and some joking and smiles
[18:05] <smile> well we should keep alive, Kilos 
[18:06] <Kilos> smile normally i just see you say bye
[18:06] <Kilos> you had a good day today?
[18:06] <smile> yes :)
[18:06] <smile> Kilos: i know :p
[18:06] <Kilos> yay
[18:06] <smile> but i was busy today
[18:06] <smile> like always
[18:06] <smile> but now less busy then let's say, wednesday
[18:06] <smile> :p
[18:06] <Kilos> ah
[18:06] <smile> it was really hot today in europe :)
[18:06] <smile> a little bit too hot :p
[18:07] <smile> +- 32
[18:07] <smile> we are not used to it :p
[18:07] <Kilos> what do you call hot?
[18:07] <smile> (sorry, 23 :p )
[18:07] <Kilos> thats lekker not hot
[18:07] <Kerbero> dat is koud
[18:07] <Banlam> 32 is warm
[18:07] <Banlam> 40 is hot
[18:07] <Banlam> 23 is comfortable
[18:07] <Kerbero> bo 30 is eers warm
[18:07] <Kerbero> lol @ banlam
[18:07] <Kerbero> hot vs warm
[18:07]  * Banlam 's climate control in his car is set to 22
[18:07] <Banlam> hot is warmer than warm
[18:08] <Kilos> thats too cold
[18:08] <smile> Kerbero: dat is warm. :p
[18:08] <Banlam> 22 is delightful
[18:08] <Banlam> for shrots and a shirt
[18:08] <Kilos> and penguins
[18:08] <smile> Kerbero: koud is -5 ;)
[18:08] <Banlam> penguins \o/
[18:08] <Kerbero> banlam is shorts and a shirt is awesome
[18:08] <Kerbero> *in
[18:08] <Banlam> ;)
[18:09] <Kerbero> ;) back to you
[18:09] <Kilos> inetpro, en hoe gaan dit by jou
[18:09] <Kilos> hi barns
[18:11] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:11]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:11] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[18:11] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[18:11] <Kilos> Maaz, with cremora
[18:11] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[18:11] <Kilos> Maaz, and milk
[18:11] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[18:12] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[18:12] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[18:12] <Kilos> doop n ouma doop n ouma
[18:12] <smile> Kilos: jy praat ook afrikaans :o
[18:12] <smile> ^^
[18:13] <Kilos> oh my i wondered what dictionary i had here
[18:13] <inetpro> has anyone ever tried using Ubuntu in Afrikaans?
[18:13] <Kerbero> no
[18:13] <Kerbero> has anyone ever tried using windows in afrikaans?
[18:13] <Kilos> there is no afrikaans for sudo
[18:14] <Kerbero> rhetorical question
[18:14] <smile> nee, Kerbero 
[18:14] <Kerbero> sgdo
[18:14] <Kerbero> supergebruiker doen
[18:14] <inetpro> yikes
[18:14] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:14] <Kerbero> janee
[18:14] <charlvn> most people i know just use it in english, it's a pain to get used to a new language in menus etc even if you speak it
[18:15] <smile> ;)
[18:15] <inetpro> charlvn: I agree
[18:15] <charlvn> usually it's more of a pain than to just use it in english
[18:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[18:15] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:15] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:15] <smile> Maaz: :D
[18:15] <Maaz> smile: Sorry...
[18:15] <charlvn> and full disclosure, i used to be involved with translate.org.za, i have nothing against software translation or anything
[18:15] <smile> Maaz: I want cookies! :D
[18:15] <Maaz> smile: What?
[18:15] <inetpro> I have a friend who uses the Afrikaans version of Firefox and Thunderbird
[18:15] <smile> cookies! :o
[18:15] <inetpro> on Windows
[18:15] <smile> inetpro: werk dit goed? :p
[18:15] <Kilos> shame poor guy inetpro 
[18:16] <charlvn> as soon as you search for a proxy and have to go to "instaanbediener" you get lost
[18:16] <Kerbero> hehe
[18:16] <Kerbero> maak my koekies skoon
[18:16] <Kerbero> verwyder almal van hulle
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: he's still as happy as ever
[18:17] <inetpro> just not sure whether he's using the latest version
[18:17] <Kilos> he never knew any better i spose
[18:17] <Kilos> win7 is very heavy
[18:17] <Kilos> the iso is 3.3g
[18:19] <Kilos> inetpro, you have nearly a whole month to organise kid stuff to not interfere with next months meeting hey
[18:19] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[18:19] <Kilos> hehe
[18:19] <inetpro> Kilos: when is the next date?
[18:20] <Kilos> sec
[18:20] <Kilos> 18th looks like
[18:20] <Kilos> 5 days before im 61
[18:20] <Kilos> whew ou donner
[18:22] <inetpro> highvoltage: can you op me again so I can change that topic, please
[18:23] <inetpro> or superfly, drubin, ...
[18:23] <Kilos> inetpro, why dont you stay opped instead of unopping after changing topic?
[18:24] <inetpro> Kilos: nah, better to stay out of the limelight
[18:24] <smile> inetpro: you will die.. ooit :p
[18:24] <Kilos> bangbroek
[18:24] <smile> haha! :p
[18:24] <inetpro> smile: hmm...
[18:25] <Banlam> plausible deniability
[18:25] <smile> inetpro: dat is waar he :)
[18:25] <superfly> inetpro: what do we need the topic changed to?
[18:26] <inetpro> - IRC meeting Mon, 21 May 19:30 SAST  
[18:26] <inetpro> +IRC meeting Mon, 18 June 19:30 SAST 
[18:26] <Kilos> hi conradvo 
[18:27]  * smile knuffelt inetpro
[18:27] <Kilos> long time since we showed over 40 peeps here
[18:27] <inetpro> smile: wat het ek nou verkeerd gedoen?
[18:28] <charlvn> lol
[18:28] <charlvn> does inetpro know what knuffel means
[18:29] <charlvn> smile: it's a "druk" in afrikaans
[18:29] <Kilos> what does it mean and in what language
[18:29] <Banlam> haha
[18:29] <smile> inetpro: niets. :)
[18:29] <smile> ;)
[18:29] <Kilos> oh a hug?
[18:29] <charlvn> yes
[18:29] <smile> ja! :)
[18:29] <charlvn> in dutch it's a knuffel
[18:29] <smile> :D
[18:29] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:29] <inetpro> charlvn: yikes!
[18:29] <smile> inetpro: wat het jy gedink? ;)
[18:29] <Kilos> inetpro, s wife will hit him
[18:30] <charlvn> lol
[18:30] <inetpro> ek het gedink hy smile bedoel om my te knyp
[18:30] <Kilos> lmga
[18:30] <charlvn> hahahahaha this is classic
[18:31] <inetpro> s/hy//
[18:31] <smile> inetpro: nee, ek knyp jou nie! :)
[18:31] <charlvn> i always use this one to troll south africans with: http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/catinboxkevinsteeleflickerphoto.jpg
[18:31] <Kilos> smile why you hide your name
[18:31] <smile> how do you mean? :)
[18:32] <charlvn> recipe: take a photo of a cat in a box and ask a dutchman to describe what he sees
[18:32] <charlvn> then give his/her answer to a south african
[18:32] <charlvn> end: epic troll
[18:32] <Kerbero> lol nee
[18:32] <Kilos> in xchat if one right clicks the nicks on the right it shows who you are
[18:32] <Kerbero> 'n kat telery is beter
[18:32] <smile> hmm.. strange :p
[18:33] <smile> Kilos: check out www.hugsmile.eu to know who I am :)
[18:33] <smile> ^^
[18:33] <inetpro> charlvn: eh
[18:33] <Kerbero> cute
[18:33] <Kilos> naw i cant go browsing
[18:33] <inetpro> jy loop nou op dun ys
[18:33] <smile> good night everyone! :D
[18:33] <Kerbero> smile = st niklaas
[18:33] <Banlam> hugesmile
[18:33] <Kerbero> :P
[18:33] <smile> "Welcome on the site of Geoffrey De Belie! You can contact me here.
[18:33] <Banlam> ooh, a .eu domain
[18:33] <smile> I live in Belgium, in a town called Sint-Niklaas. I'm often on msn, wikipedia and irc (see also chatting in #hugsmile). I'm addicted to smileys. I have brown eyes and brown hair. You find more information about me on my public profile. It's also the place to look for pictures of me. I don't have pets anymore.
[18:33] <smile> Geoffrey De Belie "
[18:33] <smile> :p
[18:33] <smile> Banlam: yes, i'm proud eu member :)
[18:34] <smile> good night everyone, see ya :)
[18:34] <Kerbero> i'm not :(
[18:34] <Banlam> can anyone get a .eu?
[18:34] <charlvn> smile: yuck, you're proud of the .eu ?
[18:34] <charlvn> Banlam: nope, you have to live in the EU
[18:34] <Kerbero> hy is 'n belg, hulle regeer die EU
[18:34] <Kilos> night smile sleep tight
[18:34] <charlvn> lol i thought it was the bilderbergers
[18:34] <Kerbero> ...brussel
[18:34] <smile> charlvn: no, to be a member of the European Union :)
[18:35] <charlvn> yeah that's what i meant :)
[18:35] <smile> thank you, Kilos :)
[18:35] <inetpro> smile: lekker slaap
[18:35] <charlvn> anti-EU sentiment has been growing in a lot of countries
[18:35] <Kerbero> smile: do you onle have to give an address in the EU?
[18:35] <smile> I do think so :(
[18:35] <Kerbero> sophi nummer?
[18:35] <smile> Kerbero: but you can give a fake one ;)
[18:35] <smile> no. :p
[18:35] <Kerbero> i have a real one
[18:36] <Kerbero> real address
[18:36] <smile> oh :o
[18:36] <Banlam> or we can give smile's one :)
[18:36] <smile> well i really have to go now ;) good night ;)
[18:36] <Kerbero> lol
[18:36] <smile> yes, indeed :)
[18:36] <smile> ^^
[18:36] <Kerbero> i'm sure i do have a sophi number too
[18:36] <charlvn> Kerbero: sofi numbers are long gone, it's a BSN now and it's only for the netherlands, other countries don't have it
[18:36] <Kerbero> ok
[18:36] <Banlam> sofi numbers?
[18:36] <Banlam> id number?
[18:36] <Kerbero> yes
[18:36] <charlvn> and yes you need a real physical address, i don't think you need anything else
[18:36] <Kerbero> ok
[18:37] <Kerbero> i have a physical address in NL
[18:37] <charlvn> then you can register a .eu
[18:37] <Kilos> same as on aim you need a usa addy
[18:37] <Kerbero> yeah
[18:37] <charlvn> Banlam: a bsn is to the netheralands as an id number to south africa
[18:37] <charlvn> americans have social security numbers
[18:37] <Banlam> right
[18:37] <Kilos> but addies are easy to find but who would want an eu one?
[18:38] <charlvn> Kilos: yes exactly my question :)
[18:38] <Kerbero> spre.eu
[18:38] <Kilos> hehe
[18:38] <Kerbero> me.eu
[18:38] <charlvn> and yes you can most likely give up a fake address
[18:38] <charlvn> i don't think they verify everything
[18:38] <Kerbero> google verified my NL address \o/
[18:38] <Banlam> lol
[18:39] <Kilos> aol/aim didnt check i just gave the first usa addy i found
[18:39] <Banlam> apple thinks I live in Kenya
[18:39] <Kerbero> ... Liberty Isle, New York, USA
[18:39] <Banlam> all they check is the postal cod
[18:39] <Banlam> e
[18:39] <charlvn> yeah
[18:40] <Banlam> and kenya don't use postal codes :)
[18:40] <charlvn> hahahaha big surprise
[18:40] <Kilos> wow do they have post?
[18:40] <charlvn> that is strange though, it used to be an english colony
[18:41] <charlvn> that's a good question Kilos 
[18:41]  * Banlam doesn't know
[18:41] <charlvn> the roads in the middle of nairobi are in such terrible shape, you need a bike to get around
[18:41] <Kerbero> how about kongo, ex belgian colony
[18:41] <Kerbero> we should ask smile
[18:41] <Kilos> hehe
[18:42] <charlvn> ok i need to bugger off, bbl all
[18:42] <Kilos> hi psydroid you well?
[18:42] <Kilos> we are getting peeps from all over
[18:43] <Kilos> i see our ruskies have left
[18:43] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:43] <Kilos> psydroid, studying hard?
[18:43] <psydroid> hi charlvn Kerbero Banlam
[18:44] <Kerbero> goedenavond
[18:44] <Banlam> hey psydroid 
[18:44] <psydroid> Kilos, somewhat, I'm learning Python now
[18:44] <Kilos> from byteofpython psydroid 
[18:44] <Banlam> needs moar brackets
[18:44] <Banlam> and semi-colons
[18:45] <Kilos> Banlam, more?
[18:45] <Banlam> yes
[18:45] <psydroid> Kilos, and you?
[18:45] <Banlam> but i wrote maor on purpose
[18:45] <Banlam> it has more heart
[18:45] <Banlam> moar*
[18:45] <psydroid> hehe
[18:45] <Kilos> psydroid, im parking off shivering 
[18:45] <Kilos> its winter here
[18:46] <psydroid> oh, I completely forgot about that
[18:46] <Banlam> you forgot it's winter?
[18:46] <Kilos> he is in the netherlands
[18:46] <Kilos> lol
[18:47] <Kilos> its always winter there
[18:47] <Kilos> like the uk
[18:47] <psydroid> hehe
[18:47] <psydroid> it's actually a bit warmer now
[18:47] <Kerbero> altijd 11 steden tocht
[18:47] <Kerbero> :P
[18:47] <psydroid> since last week
[18:50] <Kilos> Banlam, what do you need more brackets for?
[18:50] <Kerbero> python
[18:50] <Kerbero> it has too little rackets
[18:50] <Kerbero> *few
[18:51] <Kerbero> w/e
[18:51] <Kerbero> min
[18:51] <Kerbero> geen
[18:51] <Kilos> set your keyboard to auto repaet and hold key down and you get lots
[18:51] <Kilos> ah
[18:51] <Kerbero> maar dan kla die compiler
[18:51] <Kilos> lol
[18:51] <bakuman> lol
[18:51] <superfly> Kerbero: whaddyamean it needs more brackets?
[18:51] <Kerbero> java/c vs python
[18:51] <Kilos> ha ha ha now you had it
[18:52] <Kerbero> "o i love all these brackets" vs "where has all my brackets gone?"
[18:52] <superfly> you can do all sorts of awesome things like: stuff = [{'moo': item.moo, 'bar': item.bar} for item in items]
[18:52] <Kerbero> jaja
[18:52] <Kerbero> for la in bla { ... }
[18:52] <Kerbero> vs
[18:53] <Kerbero> for la in bla:
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[18:53] <Kerbero> that is why i like php
[18:54] <Kerbero> you can use both java/c brackets and your python brackets
[18:58] <superfly> urgh
[18:58] <superfly> PHP is a hammer with 2 claws
[18:59] <Kerbero> heh indeed
[18:59] <Kerbero> but easy to get something done
[19:00] <bakuman> aka BIG hammer?
[19:01] <Kilos> night guys, sleep tight
[19:02] <bakuman> nite nite
[19:02] <Kerbero> nag oom ki...
[19:12] <magespawn> howdy all
[19:16] <psydroid> hi magespawn
[19:16] <inetpro> magespawn: wb
[19:16] <magespawn> hey psydroid
[19:17] <psydroid> hi inetpro
[19:44] <superfly> hi magespawn
[19:45] <charlvn> hi all
[19:46] <magespawn> hey superfly
[20:40] <charlvn> nn all
[20:44] <Mezenir> oooh
[20:44] <Mezenir> late already
[20:45] <Mezenir> gnite
[21:08] <nuvolari> o/
[21:08] <Squirm> 0/
[21:08] <Squirm> I win
[21:15] <magespawn> night all
[22:49] <drubin> inetpro: Sorry I was out... we should get highvoltage to give you +O or something