[00:32] hello everyone [00:36] i have an issue booting up xubuntu, can any one offer assistance? [00:37] its my first time joining these chat room so please forgive my noobness [00:43] strictland: Just ask your question and if someone has an answer, they'll say so. [00:43] i.r., don't ask to ask [01:09] So my xubuntu system is setup to shutdown via cron at a specific time everyday, then it wakes on lan everyday as well at a specified time. my problem is, a few weeks ago, my system would wake onlan but stop at a black screen with text saying something about "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported ubuntu" .... I dont know what to do? [01:18] Here are my boot info script results if that helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1004011/ [02:14] I installed xubuntu 12.04 on a system with this board: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/kino_690s1 It is hooked up a television as a "media" pc. I can't get fglrx to work, and otherwise am having serious resolution issues. None of the resolutions I select fit the screen very well. They are either oversized, or too small. Any ideas? === zmoylan1 is now known as zmoylan [03:05] Anyone know how I view the changelogs of files that will be upgraded, when I do apt-get upgrade? [03:06] I see there is a changelog option in the apt-get man, but I'm not sure how to go about useing it to display the files that come back from apt-get upgrade [03:10] apt-listchanges the only way to do this? [03:11] aptitude changelog package-name [03:11] Hey all. Having a rough time with a new install. [03:11] chelz: yeah but when I do apt-get upgrade and it spits me back a list of programs, there isn't a more automated way? [03:12] rbrt: you can use fancy aptitude searching for packages that will be upgraded [03:12] After I hit "Install Xubuntu" it works for a bit then the graphics on my screen go crazy. [03:12] Liquidedge: try passing options at boot for differnt video options [03:13] or try alternate install [03:13] I tried alternate install with nomodeset [03:13] What other options do you suggest? [03:13] chelz: can you elaborate on that? I think I'm jsut confusing myself now lol [03:14] Liquidedge: what kind of video card do u have [03:14] rbrt: the aptitude manpage says about searching stuff "see the section “Search Patterns” in the aptitude reference manual" [03:14] Not sure. It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop. [03:14] Older. [03:14] Model number is scratched off. [03:15] Can't even get to lspci to get info [03:15] Liquidedge: oh its alptop [03:15] I had Linux Mint on it. Just doesn't seem to like the Xubuntu install. [03:15] rbrt: for example to search installed packages for packagename, you can do: aptitude search '~i'packagename [03:16] chelz: how does that give me the changelog though? [03:16] rbrt: you find what gives you results of packages to be upgraded, then use it with "aptitude changelog" [03:17] aptitude changelog '~i'packagename [03:17] but not ~i [03:17] chelz: oh ok I have to read up on aptitude then [03:17] this is one way to do it. i'm used to aptitude more than apt-get so there might be some way with apt-get that i don't know about [03:17] chelz: I saw thi s apt-listchanges package too but I didn't want to go down the rabbit hole before seeing if there was a trick i was missign with apt-get [03:18] chelz: gotcha, thanks for the tip [03:18] rbrt: well that apt-listchanges might be some 3rd party tool, which is okay, like i like apt-file, but i prefer to use existing features of tools when i can [03:19] chelz: yeah I feel exactly same [03:19] So, it's a laptop so I'm screwed. [03:19] ? [03:19] Liquidedge: lol no sorry [03:19] let's see [03:20] Liquidedge: there's gotta be some magic combination of boot options [03:20] put it this way what have you tried so far [03:20] Liquidedge: it might take couple tries to figure it out [03:20] Is there a way to get past the graphical install environment but still have it be automated? [03:20] Liquidedge: if you take off "splash" and "quiet" and "--" you might get some info about where it's erroring [03:20] Liquidedge: you can do a preseed file but that's fairly advanced [03:22] did you try the nomodeset Liquidedge ? [03:23] mash f6 is one thing, and try the "try xubuntu" rather than just doing install. but yeah if you're having graphical errors then using the alternate CD does increase your chances of a good install [03:25] can you boot into windows maybe and get some info about the vid? so you have some idea what your dealing with [03:32] well if mint boots, can just boot a mint livecd [03:33] I was just thinking same thing [03:34] Sorry guys. Connection got weird. [03:34] Okay, I'll try it with mint. [03:35] Liquidedge: well i mean take off splash and quiet from boot options to get an error msg [03:38] fb=false you coudl try too [03:42] Liquidedge: add that to boot prompt [03:46] gotcha === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [04:24] Windows is installing just fine. [04:24] This makes me sad. [04:25] that's not mint ;/ [04:25] that is Wisonds? [04:26] Mint kept rebooting, too. [04:26] Must be something with the video card. [04:28] Liquidedge: heyy you said mint worked [04:28] Of course, Comcast has chosen this moment to be wonky so finding answers is extra hard. [04:28] It did, but I stopped that install to try other Xubuntu stuff. [04:28] Then it didn't work. [04:29] so [04:29] yay [04:30] dying vidjeo card maybe [04:31] Probably. I wonder if that's even replaceable on a laptop or if it's on the mobo? [04:32] a few laptops have gpus that aren't soldered but those are rare. the socket is called mxm [04:32] Liquidedge: still, you should try to boot xubuntu, mash f6, then on the boot option line take off quiet and splash [04:33] so you can get an error message [04:33] and find out what's actually wrong [04:33] Yeah, but as it's going, the text gets all weird looking. [04:34] I can get to the "Install Xubuntu" prompt and then hit F6 and change any of the variables. [04:37] Hi, I recently installed xubuntu besides my ubuntu (12.04). What I can't figure out: how do I change to a second user (go back to login screen)? [04:37] Top right there is a username, click that. [04:38] I found that, but there I have to log out. [04:39] I want to login another user... [04:40] And then switch between them: Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8. [04:40] I have it, I'll blame my version and say it'll be in the next version of Xubuntu. [04:40] Oh, that's a bit different. [04:42] lycrat: go to ctrl-alt-f6 say and do "startxfce4" [04:44] I had to login and got a fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. [04:47] startx -- :1 [04:47] lycrat: try that [04:49] It's easier: I had to lock my screen and then I can login another user. Now I have two displays running... [04:50] oh yeah that's fast user switching [04:50] Thanks guys! [05:37] Hello, I've been sent here from #UbuntuStudio because they couldn't figure out what what wrong with my desktop. I am using Xfce4 and have been having trouble for quite some time. Here is my tale. Many months ago I installed a distro called UbuntuStudio, I was unfamiliar with Xfce but over time I became familiar to it, but one fateful night the firey fox died, resulting in unforseen metamorphosis, the background became light blue [05:38] qwentin355: you got cut off at "became light blu" [05:42] thank you chelz, the defualt icons were never seen again, and the desktop icons I had made were gone, any new icons I made were now able to be resized, a feature that I profusley enjoyed for many nights, I started a new life with a linux that was the same but had changed so much in an very short time, and in time I grew fond of it, but last night the musical giant Ardour died which resulted again in change, back to the way thin [05:45] qwentin355: cut off again at "back to the way thi" [05:45] a fix might be panels [05:45] !panels [05:45] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [05:48] ngs were but not the same at all, this distro was different from the distro I knew before, it was broken, the windows no longer fit within there confines and... you know what I'm done with that time for the issues, my windows open outside of the monitor and just far enough out that I cannot manipulate them, I also cannot create new workspaces, when I open firefox or any program I cannot interact with the drop down widgets, when [05:51] qwentin355: you might want to pastebin what you want to say since you keep getting cut off [05:52] so I cannot access preferences for them, also right click drop down closes when my cursor is over it so I cannot copy paste I have run rm -r .config/xfce4 which did its job but did not fix all the problems, I can now maybe see the windows that I have open on my panel, I cannot be sure because the open window cover the left 2/3 of my screen, also === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:55] the minimize all open windows is completly inefectual. now we have tried restoring it to its original state to no avail, we have tried different monitors one a 46in and the other 22in both 1080 and that is the resolution being put out [05:58] my panels are still where they are supposed to be [05:59] hm [06:00] qwentin355: you could backup and try a fresh install [06:00] i'm not entirely sure what you're saying the issue you're experience is. is your display resolution changing on its own? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:04] the display resolution is fitting but windows simply open outside of the display, beyond the reach of my cursor, I am also unable to make more workspaces, I have added 7 but I still only have one, also all open windows do not show on the top panel where you would expect them to [06:06] qwentin355: hm might be easier to reinstall than figure out how to fix that stuff [06:07] if removing .config/xfce4 doesn't fix it, i'm not sure [06:08] yeh that was there conclusion but they sent me here just to make sure, I have no issue with reinstall just kinda wanted it to be a last ditch effort [06:09] qwentin355: anything in particular you were doing around the time this happened? [06:25] qwentin355: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6102 [06:25] try that [06:28] baizon are you a wizard? [06:28] qwentin355: ? [06:29] that looks exactly like what my issue might be [06:29] so i hope the sollution will help :) [06:30] Im certainly going to try when my upgrade finished downloading. [06:54] now I feel lame, and I really hope you do not role your eyes but I dont know how to run it in XTerm [06:55] can you help this noob out one more time? [06:57] you mean that command? [06:59] qwentin355: just open xterm, then type: "rm -r ~/.cache/sessions" [07:00] or instead of ~ you can type: "/home//.cache/sessions" [07:04] no such file or directory [07:06] then type "ls" [07:06] or better "ls -a" [07:06] and check for the .cache directory [07:11] not found [07:11] would something like cd .config work [07:13] what dirs do you got? [07:13] there must be a .cache dir [07:14] ~/.config$ rm -r ~/.cache showed no syntax but I am not sure if it did anything === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [07:21] ttyyy [07:22] should I descend into write protected directory /home/quentin/.mediatomb? [07:22] yy [07:32] oh dear god what have I done [07:32] gone, every thing gone [07:32] hahahahahaha [07:34] every filesystem is empty [07:34] but atleast the problem is fixed, silver lining [07:57] xD [07:59] i hope this isnt your productivity pc :) [08:05] so anyone know of a good file recovery program for linux? [08:06] !testdisk [08:06] ubottu: quiet. [08:07] qwentin355: Use testdisk, it's CLI, but works great. [08:11] well here is what happened, I came here for help to fix a problem and we accidentially removed almost everything from my harddrive, I still have every thing I got from software center but everything else is gone, will testdisk get these back? [08:13] Don't restore it to the same disk, or boot from it and your chances are higher. [08:17] looks like I have a lot to learn before I can run a recovery === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [08:18] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step Generally this site should help. [08:20] I hope this works, I am not sure If I have anything of value, thank you all, I hope this works but It can wait until the morning [08:23] Heck yeah, it's 04:23 here. :P [08:26] hello there, could anyonw please tell me how i could place a close button into the top panel so i can run all windows with miximus and than close them from the panel [08:38] xubuntu179: afaik you can't with xfce-panel [08:53] that dual-screen bug in window buttons is still not fixed in 4.10, apparently [08:58] Will I be presented with an option to use an encrypted homedir when installing? [08:59] 12.04 [09:00] yeah i found that xfpanel isnt used anymore and indicator applet doesnt work [09:00] but shound there be a possibility to add a button like bodhi close button or the close button which was in the mid edition [09:02] xubuntu179: what do you mean xfce-panel isn't used anymore? (same goes for the indicator-plugin btw, both are used by default in xubuntu) [09:02] cathper: i think so, but i'm not 100% positive [09:03] no i mean the xfpanel plugin to run stuff like gnome-window-picker [09:04] oh right, yeah, xfapplet is deprecated, that's true [09:08] so does anybody know a way to add a close button to the panel. not the whole stuff like the globalmenu. just a close button like in the ubuntu mid edition [09:09] ochosi: You were right. [09:56] hmm [09:57] is there a way to check if the cpu freq is scaling / changing? [10:05] dmidecode | grep “Current Speed” | head -n 1 [10:05] is this right? [10:05] cause then my cpu isnt changing the clock speed anymore :( [10:24] damn it [10:53] guys, how do you share folders to a windows network on xubuntu ? [10:53] there is no option to do it int he file explorer [10:59] Kingsy: samba [11:01] hellow. how is it possible to change a toolbar from being on the bottom to being on the top and vice versa (I would like to "swap" the toolbars, and I cannot find an option in the toolbar menu) [11:04] gordonjcp: yeah got it.. there is no tool for it, you just have to mount the drive manually in xmb.conf [11:04] somb* [11:04] ffs you get the idea [11:06] Kingsy: do you mean access files on the Xubuntu machine from Windows machines? [11:08] gordonjcp: yeah, its ok I got it working just fine, I was just wondering if there was a GUI tool was all, and there isnt one [11:08] Kingsy: tbh server-y things tend not to have GUIs [11:09] yeah.. the smb.conf file was pretty self explanitory.. it even had examples there I could use :) and bang.. restart samaba.. it works [11:14] ok got it, it is a bit complicated, one has to unlock it first and then lock it again === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [12:40] In Xubuntu 11.10, how do I edit the menu options? I want to add one. [12:54] SandJ: applications -> settings -> main menu [12:58] Kingsy, there is no "main menu" under "settings" [12:59] Actually, I remember now - there is no menu editor in Xubuntu. It is something to do with editing .desktop files. [13:01] SandJ: at least in 12.04 you can edit the menu with alacarte [13:01] might be that it's also possible in 11.10 [13:01] i just forgot, because i never do that [13:02] I was actually having trouble with alacarte. I cannot get rid of my Wine menu [13:03] bluesabre: wine's menus are in a separate folder in /home [13:03] usually in .local/share/applications/ [13:03] that's what I thought too [13:03] I deleted those, menu persists [13:03] don't ask me why though [13:03] it's kinda messy [13:03] that's odd [13:03] that usually works [13:03] I agree [13:04] I'll probably log that when I get home [13:04] mhm [13:04] btw, i have no problems with hiding the wine-menu with alacarte [13:04] i just unticked the "show" column for the wine menu and it's gone from the menu [13:05] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05242012-030516pm.php [13:06] Really weird [13:06] Time to recreate my profile! [13:06] :) [13:06] yeah, sometimes a good idea [13:06] lots of old cruft if you always keep everything in /home [13:06] (which i usually still do) [13:07] yeah, but I usually reinstall about once a month, so dunno === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [13:56] ochosi: just out of curiousity.. don't you have a windows buttons item on any of your panels? [13:56] you use the top panel for everything? [14:06] Kingsy: you mean the window-button plugin that shows open windows? [14:14] well no, its just a panel item [14:14] that shows you your open windows.. [14:18] Kingsy: yes, that's what i meant (and said), but to answer your question: yes, i do use that [14:18] otherwise my top-panel would be rather empty [14:18] (and i only have 1 panel btw) [14:19] like all right thinking people. [14:39] Hello, everyone! ^^ [14:40] I need a little help with Xubuntu on my laptop. Mine is one of those that has keys for volume control, right? [14:42] Well, my issue is that, while it changes the volume, it changes the volume of the wrong stream. Instead of my speaker, it changes the volume on my HDMI out. I don't have much PulseAudio knowledge so if anyone could help that would be great! [14:42] My laptop model is a HP Pavilion g6-1d18dx Notebook PC. [14:43] And, uh, that's just about it I guess! :3 [14:43] Again, if anyone could help that'd be great. [14:43] Hello Pen! What do you know about PulseAudio on laptops? [14:45] tinkerttoy: Have you looked at Sound Settings in the Sound Menu? [14:46] What you might be looking for would be under Output Devices. [14:46] Is there more than one device listed? [14:48] [09:42] Well, my issue is that, while it changes the volume, it changes the volume of the wrong stream. Instead of my speaker, it changes the volume on my HDMI out. I don't have much PulseAudio knowledge so if anyone could help that would be great! [14:49] "It" being the volume keys on my laptop. [14:50] You may just need to click the "Set as fallback" icon in the upper right of the Laptop Speaker output [14:51] Already tried that, Blue, didn't work. [14:53] uff, why can't I find the blog who had fix for that..' [14:56] Remember, the actual audio plays through the proper stream, it's just the keys that go to the wrong stream. [14:58] you need to change default device/channel in settings editor (not manager) [14:58] Okay, I've found the proper settings, I think I can figure out how to change this. [15:02] hi [15:02] I've read Thunar is already able to mount remote fie systems [15:03] Actually, I can't! >< How should I figure out the setting corresponding to the stream I need? [15:03] but using Go->Open location and adding a ssh:// correct address doesn't work for me :S [15:04] g0to, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work because ssh isn't a filesystem. Have you tried substituting it with ftp:// ? [15:04] try sftp instead of ssh, make sure you have gvfs-backends installed [15:05] Or go to System > Gigolo and let the gui do it for you :) [15:05] tinkerttoy, so it isn't ftp. Both are protocols to reach a remote system. [15:06] tinkerttoy, I've tried sftp since I have no ftp server running in the target machine [15:07] Well, I'm pretty sure you'd have to SSH into the server and transfer it back to you from within the console. I'm no expert on networking, though. :P [15:08] Sysi, gvfs-backends is not installed. I believed that it was only needed for Samba (2nd bullet on 2nd point -> http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/) [15:08] g0to: sftp should work [15:08] g0to: oh [15:09] bluesabre, ochosi :neither sftp or gigolo do the job but I can access the remote system using CLI ssh [15:10] g0to: any special parameters you're using or plain "ssh $user@$ip"? [15:10] you can also try sshfs btw [15:11] first you'd probably have to install sshfs, then "sshfs user@server:/folder mountpoint" [15:11] ochosi, the regular call but, when I use the Open Location feature, I use sftp://user@machine [15:13] g0to: that works for me [15:13] ochosi, I'm going to try installing gvfs-backends [15:14] g0to: hihi, yeah, without that it can't work :) [15:14] time to restart X, see you in a moment [15:17] ochosi, Sysi: it worked. After installing gvfs-backend I can ssh remote machines from Thunar [15:17] \o/ [15:18] thanks, guys ;) [15:18] np [15:34] guys a question... im using jupiter (http://www.jupiterapplet.org/), when i uninstall it the Asus Super Hybrid Engine (SHE) doesnt get the default settings. It stays on the last configuration [15:34] any ideas how to set the default settings? [15:47] I just installed the 64bit version of Xubuntu (uname -a: x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux) But it only think i have 3Gb of ram (Mem: 3083408k total) although i have 4Gb. Any idea why this could be? [15:48] neronin: integrated graphics card? [15:49] baizon, good question, it is a laptop. But i thought the card had its own memory.. I'll double check that [15:49] neronin: mine is integrated and uses 500MB memory :) so i got 3,5GB :) [15:51] Yes it seems i remembered correctly: Graphics Memory Type: ATI - Dedicated 1024Mb [15:51] I assume dedicated means its not taking those 1024 from my RAM, right? [15:51] so you got your answer :) [15:52] 4GB - 1 GB = 3GB :) [15:52] baizon, yes, but what about "Dedicated"? [15:53] Shouldn't it be "shared" if it used the RAM? [15:53] neronin: yes its shared but i allocates the amount of memory [15:53] when im not wrong you can change it in your BIOS [15:54] ...so its static [15:54] baizon, really, thats really shady marketing. I really thought "Dedicated" meant it had it's own memory [15:55] speaking of RAM, is it possible to force ubuntu to make more use of the ram? I have 24GB of ram and I swear its never been above 3% :P [15:55] it would be nice to see it load alot more stuff into ram.. just cos it can.. and obviously see the benefit with the speed.. [15:56] Kingsy, at least with other Linux distros you can load the whole OS into the RAM memory. Not sure how to do it in ubuntu though [15:56] Kingsy: http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-using-ramdisk-for-better-performance-and-fast-response [15:57] and put apps cache etc in there and it will run faster :) [15:58] well, I kinda already have a full installation.. will all of this mean a re=installation? [15:58] for example you can put there your browser cache so the webbrowser will run much faster [15:58] Kingsy: no [15:58] umm [15:58] Kingsy: search for "ramdisk" [15:59] Kingsy: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html [15:59] thanks [15:59] np [15:59] neronin: try to boot into your bios and change the amout of vram :) [16:00] baizon, I still think dedicated means the card has its own memory [16:00] "Dedicated and shared memory are exactly what they sound like: dedicated memory is memory, usually embedded on the graphics card itself, that is used only by the graphics card. Shared memory means that the graphics card uses system memory (RAM)" [16:00] bbl [16:01] baizon, I'll reboot and check the bios [16:01] neronin: ok so check it [16:01] damn [16:08] baizon, Ok problem solved. I only had 3Gb of RAM :) [16:08] :D [16:08] I was sure i had 4.. :) [16:08] and your right [16:09] dedicated means own [16:09] well...Then at least we learned that dedicated at least means its on the graphics card [16:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_adapter#GPU_forms [16:44] hi everybody [16:45] i need some help, xubuntu boot is too slow [17:52] hello guys [17:53] I have a doubt about xubuntu, somone could help me [17:54] formas: sure [17:55] OK. I have three users or sesions example alumno, admin and another if I want to boot alumno [17:55] How can do this? [17:56] formas, please don't enable the root account [17:56] formas, rather, use the sudoers -file to give sudo access to any users who need root access [17:56] In ubuntu ther is Login screen to configure [17:57] formas, applications -> system -> users and groups [17:59] OK I going to try it [18:05] hey, have upgraded to 12.04 and now dialog text and the like have a practically invisible colour for the theme I'm using (Albatros). Anyone know how to fix this? [18:07] doc|home, see #9 at http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ [18:08] knome: great, thanks, seems like a bug that should never have happened in the first place [18:08] doc|home, yeah - but gtk3 happened :) [18:09] I prefer the look of albatross :/ [18:09] oh well [18:10] we're working on porting it to gtk3, but that will take some time [18:10] ok, thanks [18:10] np [18:22] sALVE!!!!!!!111 === ponpon is now known as Guest26382 [18:53] good afternoon === Guest26382 is now known as ponpon [19:35] Hi [19:35] Which version of XFCE comes with Xubuntu 12.04? [19:36] 4.8 [19:59] hi [19:59] !hi [19:59] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [20:00] excuse me [20:00] i need some help [20:00] can you readme¿ === classic is now known as Adam_ [20:01] Yes. [20:01] well [20:02] i downloaded a 32bit alternate version of xubuntu... [20:03] i thank that it was live [20:03] thank you [20:04] but when i start xubuntu on pendrive [20:05] it try to install complete [20:05] and i need only livecd version [20:07] do you understand me? [20:08] You dowkoaded the alternate version of Xubuntu, installed it on a pendrive, booted it and it did not boot to a live version and you really need a live version? [20:08] downloaded [20:11] yes [20:12] from here: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [20:12] I don't think the alternate version has a "live version", that's why it takes so little ram to install [20:13] is there any version live? [20:13] At the URL you posted, choose "desktop" [20:14] really? [20:14] yes [20:15] well i'm going to try it [20:15] thank you so much [20:15] no problem...enjoy xubuntu [20:16] and... [20:18] with xubuntu, can i view, save and load file en XFS format hard disk? [20:21] I have never done it, but http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=xubuntu says yes. [20:23] ok, thanks === xubuntu058 is now known as Zhyl === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [21:53] hi quick question [21:54] just installed xubuntu 11.10 on a dell inspiron 1525 and now the mouse isn't working and wired ethernet connections aren't connecting to the net [21:54] not really sure what to do