| JontheEchidna | Oo | 00:56 |
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| JontheEchidna | kde4libs 4.4.80 actually built with no changes to the packaging from 4.8.3 | 00:56 |
| JontheEchidna | I had to check to make sure it was actually the 4.4.80 tarball :P | 00:57 |
| JontheEchidna | but it is | 00:57 |
| JontheEchidna | *4.8.80 | 00:59 |
| CIA-122 | [kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120525011706-drw64ntuicunllti * debian/ (7 files) * New upstream beta release: - Update symbols files for new symbols | 01:17 |
| JontheEchidna | ^literally all that had to be done, and it even built without the symbols file updates | 01:17 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, hey. I can use this now | 01:42 |
| JontheEchidna | !ninjas | 01:42 |
| ubottu | Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel | 01:42 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, didn't know scp had tab-complete support | 01:46 |
| JontheEchidna | damn, I did this install in August 2011 and I haven't needed to install cdbs until this very moment | 02:22 |
| jjesse | yay? | 02:22 |
| JontheEchidna | it just goes to show how much stuff has migrated to dh7 :P | 02:24 |
| micahg | JontheEchidna: http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/dh-vs-cdbs/ | 02:33 |
| CIA-122 | [kdepimlibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120525031612-dri36atf9kmgyz14 * debian/ (9 files) * New upstream beta release: - Update .install files for name changes - Update symbols files | 03:16 |
| === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Now With Extra Awesome | Bug hunting: http://ur1.ca/8kam4 | 4.8.80 & merges: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| JontheEchidna | trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/preparetips', which is also in package kdelibs5-dev 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 | 03:36 |
| JontheEchidna | oops | 03:36 |
| CIA-122 | [kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120525034126-mrzqwfbc9wzpdm8a * debian/kdelibs5-dev.install Do not install /usr/bin/preparetips | 03:41 |
| ScottK | yofel_: Rejected. | 04:07 |
| JontheEchidna | g'night | 04:17 |
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| yofel | JontheEchidna: I think the kdelibs freeze helps too - although the works is just postponed until frameworks is done (not that I'm complaining :P) | 05:03 |
| * yofel will update the dep-graph later | 05:04 | |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:52 |
| highvoltage | hi everyone! | 14:07 |
| highvoltage | pairs (http://edu.kde.org/applications/preschool/pairs/) isn't in Ubuntu yet | 14:07 |
| highvoltage | is there a Kubuntu process I should follow or is it best filing an ITP with Debian and doing it there? | 14:07 |
| ScottK | highvoltage: Is it part of KDE 4.9? | 14:09 |
| ScottK | (will it be) | 14:09 |
| highvoltage | good questions (checking) | 14:09 |
| * highvoltage asks on #kde-edu | 14:10 | |
| ScottK | If the answer is yes, then generally we'd package it. You are more than welcome to help (there are a few KDE things we just don't have the time for). | 14:10 |
| jtechidna | yes, it's part of 4.9 | 14:10 |
| ScottK | Debian will release Wheezy with 4.8, so it'd be premature to go to Debian with it. | 14:11 |
| jtechidna | http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas <- it's on the list here | 14:11 |
| ScottK | highvoltage: ^^^ | 14:11 |
| highvoltage | ScottK: will Kubuntu also be shipping 4.8? | 14:11 |
| ScottK | highvoltage: We shipped 4.8 with 12.04. We'll be 4.9 for 12.10. | 14:12 |
| yofel | highvoltage: we already have 4.8, 4.9 will be in 12.10 and will be backported to 12.04 | 14:12 |
| ScottK | highvoltage: I think the process for us it talk to yofel since he's been working on 4.9 stuff, IIRC. | 14:12 |
| highvoltage | so would that automatically come along with the rest of 4.9? (sorry I'm kind of ignorant about KDE) | 14:12 |
| ScottK | Generally. | 14:13 |
| yofel | yeah, seems simple to do, so I see no reason not to package it | 14:13 |
| ScottK | If you'd like to help with creating the package, you're more than welcome to do so. | 14:13 |
| yofel | indeed ;) | 14:13 |
| highvoltage | great, I'll be hanging around, poke me if there's anything I could do | 14:13 |
| highvoltage | (I'll be a bit more proactive too, time permitting) | 14:14 |
| ScottK | highvoltage: Go make the package. Grab another, similar, kdeedu module and use it as an example. | 14:14 |
| ScottK | How's that for guidance? | 14:14 |
| highvoltage | ScottK: ok | 14:14 |
| highvoltage | ScottK: hah! uhm, I can't come up with anything sufficiently witty at this point :) | 14:15 |
| highvoltage | (but yes, I'll do that) | 14:15 |
| jtechidna | I won't be able to continue with 4.9 packaging until I get home from work, but I've just retried kdepimlibs. | 14:17 |
| jtechidna | we can continue up the stack after that | 14:17 |
| yofel | I'm doing the dep graph for 4.9 right now | 14:17 |
| yofel | (more or less accurate as it's based on neon) | 14:18 |
| highvoltage | not sure if this would be interesting for Kubuntu but I'm pasting it anyway :) | 14:29 |
| highvoltage | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2012-May/003816.html | 14:29 |
| ScottK | highvoltage: Do you ship marble? | 14:35 |
| highvoltage | ScottK: yes | 14:37 |
| ScottK | OK. I thought that'd be a good one. Thanks. | 14:38 |
| highvoltage | yes it's great, I guess it's just not technically part of kde-edu. | 14:38 |
| yofel | 4.9 draft up - "enjoy" | 14:39 |
| yofel | highvoltage: "KLettresNo, available in Ubuntu archives" | 14:40 |
| yofel | !info klettres | 14:40 |
| ubottu | klettres (source: klettres): foreign alphabet tutor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.2-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 40 kB, installed size 158 kB | 14:40 |
| yofel | ah, nvm me | 14:40 |
| yofel | I'm tired | 14:40 |
| * highvoltage knows the feeling :) | 14:40 | |
| ScottK | yofel: I reacted the same way when I read it, so don't feel bad. | 14:46 |
| yofel | ^^ | 14:47 |
| jtechidna | yay, pimlibs built this time | 14:48 |
| yofel | as a warning: nepomuk-core had file conflicts with kdelibs when I tried to build it in neon. So that'll be a fun one | 14:48 |
| jtechidna | yeah, that whole situation is kind of crappy | 14:48 |
| yofel | another fun thing is CMakeLists.txt from kde-runtime: | 14:51 |
| yofel | macro_optional_find_package(NepomukCore) | 14:51 |
| yofel | macro_log_feature(NepomukCore_FOUND "Nepomuk Core" "Nepomuk Core Libraries" "https://projects.kde.org/nepomuk-core" FALSE "" "Required to build Nepomuk.") | 14:51 |
| yofel | since when did nepomuk become "optional"? | 14:51 |
| jtechidna | if only it actually was :P | 14:52 |
| yofel | yeah, optionally required I guess... | 14:52 |
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| ScottK | Build time optional for runtime due to splits isn't the same thing as runtime optional to make stuff work. | 14:57 |
| CIA-122 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 216 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 15:18 |
| CIA-122 | * Merge with debian git, remainging changes: - keep breaks/replaces - keep | 15:18 |
| CIA-122 | symbol files - keep kubuntu patches - dolphin suggests and not recommends ruby - | 15:18 |
| ScottK | maco: Do you have time to do some pykde work on the installer this cycle? | 15:36 |
| maco | ScottK: pm | 15:37 |
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| CIA-122 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 217 * debian/ (9 files in 2 dirs) * Drop squence numbers from kubuntu patches * New upstrem beta release - refresh kubuntu_fix_systemsettings_about_me.diff - add new doc images to {konqueror,dolphin}.install | 16:44 |
| afiestas_ | on 12.04, why is apport reporting stuff from KDE (gwenview, knetattach) applications? | 16:56 |
| ScottK | Shouldn't be. | 16:59 |
| CIA-122 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 100 * debian/changelog New upstream beta release | 17:01 |
| afiestas_ | ScottK: should I report a bug? | 17:04 |
| afiestas_ | apport/dr.konqui seems like a quite basic issue maybe sonmethign is wrong with my installation | 17:04 |
| ScottK | afiestas_: apport shpuld be disabled. There's a config setting somewhere. | 17:04 |
| afiestas_ | also, shouldn't this ppa offer akonadi-google ? | 17:04 |
| ScottK | Could be as it was working fine for me even before release. | 17:04 |
| afiestas_ | https://launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff | 17:04 |
| ScottK | No idea who that is. | 17:05 |
| afiestas_ | that's "ouirs", we build testing packages in that ppa | 17:05 |
| afiestas_ | the thing is that apparently it says akonadi-google is OK but then I can't install it via apt | 17:06 |
| afiestas_ | ScottK: my mother's computer with no extra ppa, just udpates has the same issue with apport | 17:07 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:07 |
| afiestas_ | at least with knetattach, maybe knetattach isn't a KDE app but Qt | 17:07 |
| ScottK | Dunno what to tell you. | 17:07 |
| ScottK | Qt apps should use apport if it's active. | 17:08 |
| afiestas_ | so maybe knetattach is a QApplication and not KApplication, | 17:08 |
| * afiestas_ checks | 17:08 | |
| afiestas_ | nope, it is a KApplication | 17:09 |
| ScottK | Odd. | 17:09 |
| ScottK | afiestas_: Try this change: http://paste.debian.net/171162/ in /etc/apport/crashdb.conf. | 17:11 |
| afiestas_ | ScottK: rebooting | 17:13 |
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| afiestas_ | ScottK: killing app's now doesn't make apport appear | 17:20 |
| afiestas_ | ScottK: should the setting be changed on a update and or 12.04.1 ? | 17:25 |
| ScottK | apport should have been generally disabled (except for crash database data collection) at release. | 17:26 |
| ScottK | The change I showed you kills off the database collection as well. | 17:26 |
| ScottK | That may have been what you were seeing. | 17:26 |
| * afiestas_ is confused | 17:35 | |
| afiestas_ | I was getting apport windows saying that gwenview and knetattach crashed (one window per app) | 17:35 |
| ScottK | Apport does more than one thing. | 17:37 |
| ScottK | In addition to bug filing, there's no a separate crash database (similar to what Mozilla has). | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Now that I think about it, you may be seeing the latter. | 17:37 |
| afiestas_ | mm kinda "This app crashed in the past" right? | 17:39 |
| afiestas_ | if so I see, Dr.konqui doesn't do that | 17:40 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Now With Extra Awesome | Merry Towel Day | Bug hunting: http://ur1.ca/8kam4 | 4.8.80 & merges: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| ScottK | yofel: New -runtime tarball. | 17:50 |
| ScottK | Turns out we need a soprano snapshot too. | 17:50 |
| yofel | -runtime isn't done yet, so we're fine so far | 17:51 |
| yofel | runtime got moved to the top of the dep graph in fact | 17:52 |
| ScottK | lovely | 18:04 |
| yofel | ah, nepomuk-core depends got changed | 18:35 |
| * yofel is back to editing dep graph | 18:35 | |
| claydoh | are | 19:26 |
| claydoh | are lts upgrades not enabled until 12.04.1? | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: exactly | 19:28 |
| claydoh | i'nn need to edit the wiki to reflect that, we may also want to note that on the website announcement | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: for election 2 week nomination and 1 week cast time? | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | like last time | 19:49 |
| ScottK | Sounds good. | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | I guess we can just as well start that tomorrow | 19:49 |
| ScottK | You'll need to collect email addresses for all the Kubuntu members to mail out the ballot. | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | some smart member put the announcement of the election on the wiki ^^ | 19:49 |
| ScottK | There's some LP API way to get them, but I don't recall it. | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | so just copy'n'paste | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: yah, should be easy | 19:49 |
| ScottK | Nice. | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, JontheEchidna, Darkwing: sensible objections to closing date for nominations june 9 23:59 UTC? | 20:02 |
| jtechidna | apachelogger: sounds good to me | 20:05 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Doesn't need to be that early to run the election, but I'm OK with it. | 20:16 |
| bulldog98_ | ScottK: how do I do merges with debian? | 20:22 |
| ScottK | Look in their git repo for 4.8 and identify any packaging diff between Debian and Kubuntu. | 20:22 |
| ScottK | Add their changes to our 4.8.80 packages and send them an email with changes from ours they may want to incorporate. | 20:23 |
| yofel | they're not particular far with 4.8 - so if you find no 4.8 packaging either go ahead with 4.8.80 or poke eshat, he should know more about their progress | 20:25 |
| bulldog98_ | ScottK: to which email? | 20:26 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: do you have a dep graph? | 20:27 |
| ScottK | Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org> | 20:27 |
| yofel | bulldog98_: at the usual place | 20:27 |
| ScottK | bulldog98_: You can also discuss it with them on IRC. | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, until then we basically have to wait, so we might as well just announce it now | 20:33 |
| ScottK | Certainly. | 20:33 |
| ScottK | We should put it on the web site. | 20:33 |
| ScottK | If you email the announcement, I'll copy/paste to the web site. | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | oh, what I was wondering | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | ah, nvm | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | forgot what I was wondering ^^ | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna: I don't suppose you have access to JontheEchidna right now? | 20:43 |
| jtechidna | apachelogger: nein, but I shall in around an hour | 20:44 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: if we are at abi1 and debian is still at abi0, do we want to change that back? | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98_: no | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | ABI versions must not ever be decreased | 20:46 |
| yofel | keep ours | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | NOT EVER | 20:46 |
| yofel | there's no point in merging symbols anyway | 20:46 |
| yofel | bulldog98_: where did you find the 4.8 package for okular? | 20:48 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: hm | 20:49 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: good point | 20:49 |
| bulldog98_ | apachelogger: ok | 20:51 |
| bulldog98_ | apachelogger: that’s what I thought would be the thing to do | 20:52 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Now With Extra Awesome | Merry Towel Day | Council Nominations Open - See ML | Bug hunting: http://ur1.ca/8kam4 | 4.8.80 & merges: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Now With Extra Awesome | Merry Towel Day | Council Nominations Open - See http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-council-elections-2012 | Bug hunting: http://ur1.ca/8kam4 | 4.8.80 & merges: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| ScottK | jussi: Would you please post the elections link in #kubuntu. I don't have powerz to change /topic there. | 20:56 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You should blog this so it hits planets too. | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | blogzzz | 20:58 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: do you have quantal pbuilders? | 21:00 |
| yofel | yes (now I'm wondering if they're properly set up) | 21:01 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: the ninja one is missing | 21:01 |
| yofel | uh, no | 21:01 |
| yofel | quantal-ninja-amd64-base.tgz | 21:01 |
| jussi | ScottK: yes you do... just need to op before changing the topic. /msg chanserv op #kubuntu ScottK | 21:04 |
| jussi | the s/op/deop/ | 21:04 |
| jussi | then* | 21:05 |
| * jussi now really sleeps | 21:05 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: council members are opified in kubuntu channels | 21:07 |
| ScottK | Only if they know the magic commands. | 21:07 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: pbuilder tells me he does not know quantal | 21:07 |
| ScottK | Which I do for the moment now. | 21:07 |
| yofel | bulldog98_: edit pbuilderrc and add quantal to known releases | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | join the channel | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: | 21:07 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: hm I forgot that :( thanks | 21:08 |
| ScottK | I know. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | Thanks apachelogger. | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | FWIW you could just ask someone to op you from the council, chances are someone knows the command ^^ | 21:10 |
| ScottK | OK. | 21:12 |
| ScottK | jussi is always my go to guy on IRC, but you're right. | 21:12 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: could you create an quantal ninja pbuilder | 21:12 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: I’m creating one | 21:13 |
| yofel | bulldog98_: uh, it's already there | 21:13 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: ? | 21:14 |
| yofel | /var/cache/pbuilder/quantal-ninja-amd64-base.tgz is there | 21:14 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: but you forgot the folders for it | 21:14 |
| yofel | those are auto-created by pbuilder when needed | 21:14 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: no they aren’t | 21:15 |
| yofel | unless you assume they are there from the beginning | 21:15 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: I do that | 21:15 |
| yofel | ah, give me a minute | 21:15 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: First nomination is in. | 21:16 |
| yofel | bulldog98_: anything except the result folder? | 21:16 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: aptcache | 21:17 |
| yofel | done | 21:17 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: thanks | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | who is this Scott person? never heared of him | 21:20 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 21:21 |
| ScottK | bulldog98_: You need to keep better track of which channel you're in. | 21:25 |
| yofel | yeah | 21:26 |
| JontheEchidna | changelogs.ubuntu.com is really behind | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | 4 days, at least | 21:54 |
| bulldog98_ | ScottK: why? | 22:01 |
| ScottK | bulldog98_: [17:22:17] <bulldog98_> yofel: you don’t have the gpg key in the quantal ninjas pbuilder on #debian-qt-kde. | 22:01 |
| bulldog98_ | oh really? | 22:01 |
| bulldog98_ | oops | 22:02 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 22:02 |
| ScottK | Not a big deal though. | 22:02 |
| JontheEchidna | ew, that ubuntu-drivers-common stuff depends on python-packagekit | 22:02 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, that's not the python packagekit backend | 22:03 |
| JontheEchidna | ew retracted, although somewhat slightly, as it does depend on aptdaemon | 22:03 |
| JontheEchidna | :s | 22:03 |
| ScottK | yofel: The last of the 4.8.3 stuff is accepted. | 22:22 |
| CIA-122 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Jonathan Kolberg * 31 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - Refresh symbol files | 22:25 |
| yofel | bulldog98_: we usually add beta there, so make it "New upstream beta release" | 22:27 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: yeah forgot that | 22:27 |
| yofel | :) | 22:28 |
| bulldog98_ | maybe we should teach that to kgetsource | 22:28 |
| yofel | wonder how though, there's no fixed version convention to keep beta/rc apart | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Aren't betas in the .80's and rc in the .90's? | 22:30 |
| yofel | 4.7.90 was beta2, after I complained dirk said he's basing that on 'time left until release' | 22:31 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 22:32 |
| bulldog98_ | hm | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | isn't aacid doing the release this time? | 22:36 |
| Darkwing | ScottK: ping | 22:36 |
| yofel | oh right - meaning we have no idea what it's based on | 22:36 |
| ScottK | Darkwing: pong | 22:36 |
| yofel | I guess you could count the amount of different upstream versions >> .50 already the changelog, if that's at least 2 you have an rc | 22:37 |
| * yofel is off to bed - good night | 22:59 | |
| JontheEchidna | could somebody sanity-check these new binary packages please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007320/ | 23:22 |
| JontheEchidna | just to get another pair of eyes on them | 23:22 |
| ScottK | Seems sane at a glance. You might run the binary names by #debian-qt-kde before you upload to see if they agree on the naming scheme (saves transitional packages later for a rename). | 23:54 |
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