[00:00] <Joit> i think also that a lot of windows problems are homemade, that others have work to fix it, and make a busines from it
[00:02] <Avihay> oh, I also agree with the feeling that installing/uninstalling things in windows make the system feel significantly more bloated. can you re-install windows nowadays? or does it count against your activation limit?
[00:03] <cancer> Joit: just cut/pasted the data ;)
[00:03] <Joit> cancer: it s better you burn it there
[00:04] <Joit> that would make the usb stick bootable
[00:04] <cancer> yes doing it
[00:05] <cancer> k3b isn't detecting any medium to burn on.
[00:05] <Avihay> sunitasethi: other then that, it's just another OS that you can run the KDE SC on
[00:06] <Joit> cancer: sigh
[00:06] <Joit> can you actually boot from a usb stick? do you have a idea? mostly you need to change your biso from it, do you know how to do that?
[00:07] <Joit> your bios*
[00:07] <cancer> Joit: i think i'm good with widows os's and their terminal as well.
[00:07] <cancer> Joit: know it well.:)
[00:07] <cancer> bios :)
[00:08] <cancer> only this Linux is issue with me right now :D
[00:09] <cancer> Joit: i have never booted machine from this usb i'm currently using but used other usbdrive 4gb & i don't have that now.
[00:09] <cancer> Anyways it's working fine with data. don't know about either will work with boot or not.
[00:09] <Joit> i need to look for that, how you can bring that iso at the proper format to the usbstick
[00:10] <Joit> ok, that are good news anyway
[00:10] <Joit> just for recover, you need to have a running system
[00:10] <cancer> this is running.
[00:11] <cancer> you want me to do imagebin?
[00:13] <Joit> i dont know that :p
[00:15] <Joit> cancer imagewriter?
[00:15] <Joit> !imagewriter
[00:16] <Joit> !info imagewriter
[00:16] <Joit> !info usb-imagewriter
[00:16] <cancer> Joit: i mean that with screenshots :-p
[00:17] <Joit> cancer: you could try this usb writer to bring that iso on your stick
[00:18] <cancer> sure, otherwise k3b will take time to configure it to find medium.
[00:19] <Joit> err. it looks like a backup program
[00:19] <cancer> what ?
[00:19] <Joit> writes img files to usb, doesnt mean, it can handle iso files
[00:19] <Joit> img imgaes files
[00:20] <cancer> well there are tiny tools to make bootable usb
[00:20] <Joit> images* like a backuped drive
[00:20] <cancer> Joit: i am aware of img :) have take my C: drive image.
[00:21] <cancer> ok finding tool will take a minute. :)
[00:22] <Joit> !info unetbootin
[00:22] <Joit> this one sounds better
[00:23] <cancer> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:23] <Joit> try to install it with apt-get?
[00:23] <Joit> what did l3 say, 15 mins? mmhmm
[00:24] <Joit> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[00:24] <Joit> sudo apt-get install new shiny harddrive
[00:24] <Joit> sudo apt-get install breakfast
[00:25] <Joit> usual its better to install from the sources, it works mostly better
[00:26] <cancer> Joit: http://linuxsagas.digitaleagle.net/2008/11/29/bootable-iso-to-usb-drive/
[00:26] <cancer> there the different way to apt-get ......
[00:26] <cancer> for unetbootin
[00:38] <sunitasethi> Avihay: what is kde?
[00:38] <sunitasethi> !kde
[00:38] <Avihay> ah, what is life?
[00:38] <Avihay> sunitasethi: http://kde.org/ is close to an answer
[00:47] <Avihay> sunitasethi: kde.org should answer that
[00:47] <cancer> cak
[00:47] <cancer> back
[00:47] <Joit> what :p
[00:47] <Avihay> !netsplit
[00:47] <cancer> it won't boot :D
[00:47] <Joit> wb then
[00:47] <Joit> lol
[00:47] <linuxfreak78> Hello all.  Would anyone be so kind as to point me to the setting which causes KDE to remember window positions?
[00:48] <Joit> did you copy the iso file wit unet?
[00:48] <cancer> yes i did.
[00:48] <cancer> it have given some error
[00:48] <cancer> attempting to boot from USB
[00:48] <cancer> Too many operating system blah blah
[00:49] <Joit> lol
[00:49] <Joit> never heared this
[00:49] <cancer> it's refusing because of having active OS
[00:49] <cancer> too many active operating system/boot... something like that.
[00:50] <sunitasethi> Avihay: thanks
[00:50] <Joit> when you turn off the hdd at the bios, then it will ?
[00:50] <cancer> when machine restart, first apear grub, then windows bootloader :D
[00:51] <Joit> it shouldnt
[00:51] <Joit> you know what your bios is?
[00:51] <Joit> you enter it at start mostly with the del key or f2
[00:51] <cancer> Basic Input / output system.
[00:51] <Joit> yeahh
[00:51] <cancer> Yes, f2, Del.
[00:51] <Avihay> linuxfreak78: system settings->window behaviour->window behaviour-> advanced   ,    or     system settings->window behaviour->Window rules , I think
[00:51] <cancer> some machine use f10 too ;D
[00:51] <Joit> it usual should not start grub, but go directly to the usb stick
[00:52] <Avihay> should be Built In OS
[00:52] <cancer> wait
[00:52] <Joit> that is what i would expect, i never made an bootable usb stick
[00:52] <cancer> Avihay: we talking clonezilla.
[00:52] <Joit> clonezilla and then booting from the usb stick
[00:53] <cancer> i'm with 173 nvidia driver installed.
[00:54] <Joit> cancer did you use this driver before too?
[00:54] <cancer> currently they are installed and there is an issue what i'm seeing is its not detecting DVI
[00:54] <cancer> yes joit
[00:54] <linuxfreak78> Thank you Avahay!  That did the trick for me.  I had to create a new, generic window rule and I'm happy once again. :)
[00:55] <cancer> Joit: even once i have managed to set its resolution to 1280x1024. but that is weird. it almost like using 4 monitors
[00:55] <Joit> so your 173 actually works so far. sounds like, you only have a section from your screen to view
[00:56] <Joit> or is your section only 1/4 from the complete screen?
[00:57] <cancer> Joit: example: take a picture and tear it in 4 pieces. i piece adjust in screen for other i have to move curson @ one monitor rate to get to the one of those 3 pieces
[00:57] <m0nkeylab> &khi
[00:57] <m0nkeylab> #minecraft
[00:57] <cancer> hope you get my point.
[00:57] <Joit> yeah i remeber having the same view
[00:58] <Joit> do you want to install the 290.10 driver?
[00:58] <cancer> Joit: surely, i'll do that now.
[00:59] <cancer> don't care about kubuntu now. :D
[00:59] <Joit> you may should only prepared to fix it with in the tty in case it doesnt work
[00:59] <cancer> that hope will be simple doing by removing them back.
[00:59] <cancer> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-290 | right
[01:00] <Joit> yes, its maybe only apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:00] <Joit> yeah that too
[01:00] <cancer> and how to undo this | sudo apt-get purge nvidia
[01:01] <Joit> not sure, if it gets overwritten with a new install
[01:01] <Joit> but cant answer that sorry
[01:01] <cancer> Joit: trying it on current drivers first :D
[01:02] <Joit> yeah, mainly right now it looks like its only the acpi parameter
[01:02] <cancer> ops, did i missed something
[01:03] <Joit> that was the line, what you did add to the grub.cfg
[01:03] <Joit> i don think, you did
[01:03] <cancer> may be i did one.
[01:03] <cancer> http://shitohichiumaya.blogspot.de/2012/01/using-nvidia-quadro-10000m-lenovo-w520.html?m=1
[01:04] <cancer> there was this>  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*   | and i did this  sudo apt-get purge nvidia -173
[01:04] <cancer> and then did it again> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[01:04] <cancer> what do you say:D
[01:04] <Joit> retry it :p
[01:05] <cancer> ok rebooting brb, and stay alert until you
[01:05]  * cancer is back
[01:05] <cancer> OK ;) pleasee
[01:06] <Joit> oki :P
[01:10] <Joit> wb cancer
[01:10] <cancer> Thanks
[01:10] <cancer> :)
[01:10] <cancer> not sure, but it happed a little.
[01:10] <Joit> how your screen doing
[01:10] <cancer> little different
[01:10] <cancer> little difference
[01:11] <Joit> only 3 different pices now?
[01:11] <cancer> it now max for 1024x768
[01:11] <Joit> lol
[01:11] <Joit> hope its not the only better thing
[01:11] <cancer> Joit: not that 4 pices thing happened when configured it manually, maybe i did some multipul monitor thing.
[01:12] <cancer> Joit: it's now not confirm which driver are in use.
[01:12] <cancer> let me lspci | grep -i VGA
[01:12] <cancer> is that right
[01:12] <cancer> command
[01:12] <Joit> for you yes
[01:12] <Joit> lol
[01:12] <Joit> worked before
[01:12] <cancer> Joit: what is the other one.
[01:12] <cancer> are you taking of '-nn'?
[01:12] <Joit> --nn i think
[01:12] <Joit> yeah
[01:13] <cancer> Joit:  nah that to bring those numbers L3top was talking about to judge exact gpu.
[01:14] <Joit> i look at the log for it
[01:14] <cancer> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] (rev a2)
[01:14] <cancer> 14:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] (rev a2)
[01:15] <cancer> L3top: are you done with dinner :D?
[01:16] <L3top> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] [10de:0309] (rev a2)
[01:16] <Joit>  lspci --nn | grep VGA
[01:16] <L3top> 0309 is the PCI Id
[01:16] <cancer> Joit: that the wrong command.
[01:16] <L3top> -nn
[01:16] <cancer> L3top: yes that was
[01:16] <Joit> cancer you now have the 290.10 installed=?
[01:16] <cancer> no. 173
[01:16] <Joit> yeah, i did only take it back what it was
[01:17] <Joit> ok
[01:17] <cancer> wt?
[01:17] <Joit> what is now still messed?
[01:17] <Joit> i did only copy the command again, what l3 posted before
[01:17] <cancer> jockey, all VPDAUP .... library inside it.
[01:17] <L3top> yeah... I had an extra - in there I think.
[01:17] <cancer> Joit: nope, you didn't
[01:18] <L3top> one of them anyway
[01:18] <L3top> maybe, dunno
[01:18] <cancer> that was. lspci | grep -nn VGA
[01:18] <L3top> no... lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:18] <cancer> L3top: how to check if my nvidia is working now?
[01:18] <L3top> Well... a desktop would be a good first sign
[01:19] <cancer> yes it is now 1024x768
[01:19] <L3top> I don't know how much better you will be able to go with that vga/dvi adapter
[01:20] <L3top> but you could play a video... do you have any HD content?
[01:20] <L3top> I see a lot of people test things with glgears or something to that effect
[01:21] <cancer> L3top: that all stuff was working fine withoudrivers too. even i managed to set resolution to 1280x1024 by using xrandr commands....
[01:21] <cancer> in the link there was this>  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*   | and i did this  sudo apt-get purge nvidia -173
[01:21] <cancer> and then did it again> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[01:21] <Joit> cancer i will go off for now, i need to, because its late and i getting tired, so have luck, hope L3top can help you a bit further
[01:21] <cancer> :D
[01:22] <L3top> It had a driver cancer... this is the proprietary driver.
[01:22] <L3top> you have changed the driver
[01:22] <Joit> was nice, and have a good evening you both
[01:22] <L3top> It should work better.
[01:22] <Joit> or whatever :p
[01:22] <L3top> night Joit
[01:22] <cancer> Joit: Thanks a lot, take care.
[01:22] <skreech__> !skype
[01:23] <L3top> Video playback should be better, more consistent, with less tearing.
[01:23] <L3top> cancer: however you mentioned VDPAU... you will not get any benefit from that... there is no HW for VDPAU to take advantage of.
[01:24] <cancer> and yes, now primary output is also there in display and monitor config window.
[01:24] <cancer> L3top: then, i'll roll back.
[01:24] <L3top> Can you change the resolution any higher using the nvidia tool?
[01:24] <cancer> didn't check yet
[01:24] <cancer> testing
[01:24] <L3top> It is still better cancer.
[01:24] <L3top> There is no reason to roll back.
[01:24] <cancer> ok
[01:25] <L3top> Unless of course you just want all free software
[01:25] <L3top> Which carries a nobility of its own
[01:25] <cancer> L3top: there isn't any nvidia tool.
[01:26] <L3top> click the k button and type nvidia
[01:26] <cancer> i did. nothing appeared
[01:26] <L3top> apt-get install nvidia-settings
[01:27] <cancer> done
[01:27] <cancer> now
[01:27] <L3top> check k button for nvidia again
[01:28] <cancer> nothing again
[01:29] <L3top> I cant see why a reboot would be needed.
[01:29] <cancer> giving it a shot.
[01:31] <cancer> L3top: nothing again
[01:31] <L3top> we dont use, and specifically break this tool
[01:32] <L3top> so let me look something up.
[01:32] <cancer> sure
[01:38] <L3top> cancer: in terminal can you type sudo nvidia-settings
[01:38] <cancer> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[01:39] <cancer> window opened
[01:39] <szal> cancer: do that
[01:39] <cancer> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:39] <cancer> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[01:40] <szal> cancer: in other words, you don't have the NVIDIA driver installed
[01:40] <cancer> szal: sure?
[01:40] <szal> because if you had, it'd most certainly be there
[01:40] <cancer> ok,
[01:41] <szal> (though that would not explain the presence of nvidia-settings)
[01:41] <cancer> szal: is there a way to undo these: sudo apt-get purge nvidia* | sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173
[01:41] <szal> cancer: what card do you have
[01:41] <szal> ?
[01:42] <cancer> nvidia quadro fx1000
[01:42] <szal> ugh, ancient..
[01:42] <cancer> szal: :D will 'remove' after 'purge' in both commands will work?
[01:43] <skreech__> szal: ha ha funny
[01:43] <szal> (1) sudo apt-get install nvidia-173   (2) sudo nvidia-xconfig   (3) reboot <- that should be all it takes
[01:44] <cancer> ok
[01:46] <szal> cancer: back in those wild days before everyone and their grandmother used Linux, it used to be 'apt-get remove --purge <packagename>'
[01:48] <szal> cancer: and don't expect miracles from the nvidia-173 driver; desktop effect will most likely not work, causing a blank screen instead (unfixed shader bug that probably won't get fixed any more)
[01:49] <szal> NVIDIA put the 173 on legacy status a bit before the fix was released for the then-current driver
[01:58] <skreech__> how old is that card?
[02:00] <L3top> circa 2003 maybe?
[02:31] <skreech__> ick
[02:43] <mickel> j/ #ubuntu
[02:45] <mickel> running 12.04 trying to launch wow.exe and launcher.exe  wine seems to crash after trying to click from dolphin on the executable and dragging the .exe to the desktop and clicking on it doesnt work either
[02:45] <mickel> world of warcraft
[02:52] <mickel> anyone know why windows executables when dragged from dolphin to the desktop will not open
[03:04] <skreech__> !wow
[03:05] <skreech__> mickel: symlink them in the ~/Desktop directory. They are stopped from being executable when you copy them .Standard UNIX security
[06:20] <elfh> hello
[06:21] <elfh> can anyone help me - i want to use my sony walkman as mtp device. now it is seen only in amarok, not in dolphin
[06:23] <ferni> so its working in amarok?
[06:24] <ferni> as you said, mtp, it should not show up in dolphin, unless the walkman can be put in usb mass storage mode
[06:25] <elfh> yes, it is working in amarok. i want to use it as a flash drive. it was working like that on windows. don't want to reboot every time for that
[06:37] <xrdodrx> Why does my cursor change when I put it over Firefox?
[06:37] <xrdodrx> I changed its theme and it changes back...only when it's floating over firefox though
[06:57] <hateball> xrdodrx: hmm, do you have the oxygen-gtk theme set?
[06:57] <hateball> but that should only affect windows I'd guess...
[07:24] <Fanfare> since last update of openssl i cant connect to my wlan anymore... Anyone knows about this
[09:16] <torbjorn> I just flushed my ipv6 addresses as part of debuging, how can I re-apply my default network settings? I tried service networking restart, but it only says stop/waiting and doesn't seem to do anything to my network settings
[09:29] <Layke> Hey. Is it normal for kubuntu to take up an additional 2GB RAM to run?
[09:29] <CruX|> ??
[09:29] <Layke> I only have 4GB, and I just notice that running Kubuntu is considerably slower, than say normal Unity
[09:30] <CruX|> maybee you have slow video driver
[11:15] <datruth> how do I set a system wide proxy?
[11:17] <hateball> datruth: alt+f2, type "proxy" and there you go
[11:18] <datruth> no such command
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:11] <hateball> datruth: it should have suggest the kcmmodule for proxy, I dunno its name. you can find it in system settings anyho
[13:06] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Something have gone funky with my KDE font... http://wstaw.org/m/2012/05/25/plasma-desktopSy3843.jpg you can see the settigns here but this isn't right. My screen rex is about 2000x1000px
[13:06] <hazamonzo> This is damn chunky
[13:25] <adry> ciao
[13:25] <adry> a chi posso chiedere aiuto ?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> !it | adry
[14:08] <laubosslink> hi everybody, there is somebody who can help me about gnupgp compilation ?
[14:47] <Mylena> Good morning! I'm loojing for informations about creating a runner plugin project
[14:48] <Mylena> *looking
[15:01] <laubosslink> Somebody could help me about gnupg compilation ?
[15:05] <hed> hello
[15:05] <BluesKaj> laubosslink, gnupg is in the repos , use your packag manager or apt-get to install it
[15:06] <laubosslink> i would like to make more than 4096 bits
[15:06] <laubosslink> that's why i need to compile
[15:06] <laubosslink> but i've a problem with libassuan
[15:07] <laubosslink> i've libassuan v2.0.2 and during compilation he ask me version > 1.0.x
[15:07] <laubosslink> normally it's run
[15:08] <laubosslink> BluesKaj: ? any idea
[15:09] <BluesKaj> no sorry I can't help , libassun 2.0 is in the repos , that what I see ..I have to leave
[15:10] <tsimpson> laubosslink: you need the development packages in order to compile software, install the relevant -dev packages
[15:11] <laubosslink> ok, i try
[15:31] <hed> anyone know how to acced to the french channel?
[15:35] <L3tops> !fr | hed
[15:35] <laubosslink> !fr
[15:35] <laubosslink> !fr | hed
[15:35] <hed> thanks
[16:55] <Guest46959> Hi
[16:56] <Guest46959> Does 'CTRL + ALT (numpad +/-)' change resolution :D?
[16:58] <Guest46959> l3Does 'CTRL + ALT (numpad +/-)' change resolution :D?
[16:58] <Guest46959> L3tops: does 'CTRL + ALT (numpad +/-)' change resolution :D?
[16:59] <Guest46959> I'm getting Signal out of range.
[16:59] <L3tops> not to my knowledge
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Guest46959, that KB command doesn't work here
[17:00] <Guest46959> KB?
[17:01] <Guest46959> L3tops: any manual way to get out of that prob.
[17:02] <L3tops> hmm... do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (I am poo with xranr)
[17:03] <Guest46959> i'm currently using xp. cannot get into /etc/x11/xorg.conf. wait let try to fetch that file.
[17:05] <Guest46959> L3tops: http://paste.kde.org/487040/
[17:10] <Guest46959> L3tops: ?
[17:11] <Guest46959> BluesKaj: is there any way i can change resolution from tty?
[17:13] <mmh> i have issue with ethenet internet connection please have a look at this http://paste.kde.org/487046/  in the process of helping me.
[17:16] <L3tops> I can give you a custom xorg.conf to change it... but it is probably going to take me a few... a little busy with my own probls atm. I do not know another way but I am sure there is.
[17:18] <Guest46959> custom xorg.conf?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Guest46959, do you mean the tty resolution?
[17:18] <L3tops> well.. they are all custom... I mean I can add a few lines to force a resolution that should work on just about anything so you can fix it
[17:19] <Guest46959> BluesKaj: everythink loads fine till grub, but i can't get into login, there comes the 'signal out of range' and it's all black. so i asked if could solve it using 'TTY'
[17:20] <Guest46959> L3tops: sure?
[17:20] <Guest46959> OK, sure.
[17:21] <Guest46959> BluesKaj: i believe it's resolution problem. just messed with my drivers.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> all xorg.conf are 'custom"  , since xorg.conf no longer exists by default
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Guest46959, what did you do 'messed with your drivers " ?
[17:23] <Guest46959> not messed, actually installed them.
[17:23] <lorddelta> Lots of updates today...
[17:23] <lorddelta> Is something going on I don't know about?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Guest46959, which graphics card ?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> lorddelta, depends on your OS version
[17:24] <Guest46959> BluesKaj: Nvidia. but i need to fix resolution right know.
[17:24] <lorddelta> BluesKaj: I'm running 12.04...
[17:25] <lorddelta> Guess I could grep my source.list file for beta channel links...
[17:27] <BluesKaj> Guest46959, then we nee to the right driver to install for your card . dpkg -l | grep nvidia , then post the line beside "nvidia-current-updates"
[17:28] <BluesKaj> need to know
[17:29] <BluesKaj> lorddelta, beta channel links ? ...don't you have the latest release installed ?
[17:29] <lorddelta> BluesKaj: Just checking that I don't have some weird testing repository installed.
[17:30] <lorddelta> Although it looks like i'm getting my packages from archive.ubuntu.com...so its doubtful.
[17:30] <BluesKaj> yeah , it is
[17:31] <lorddelta> Yup, I don't have any weird repos.
[17:32] <lorddelta> I'm not really complaining. Everything looks good. Just seems like there've been lots of updates recently. Updates are generally good. :)
[17:32]  * L3tops thinks that guest is cancer
[17:33] <lorddelta> Granted I'm seeing networkmanager updates, so I'll be happy if they're just fixing the bugs that were crashing the system recently...
[17:34] <BluesKaj> L3tops, well. if it is ..he shoots himself in the foot almost everyday
[17:34] <lorddelta> *moving along*
[17:37] <BluesKaj> L3tops, you're right . I scrolled back ..it's him
[17:37] <L3tops> ot
[17:48] <mcloy> how to know how many ram (physical in slot and how much each) does the system have without physically looking at the hardware.?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> mcloy, type free in the terminal
[17:56] <mcloy> BluesKaj,  thats giving total. answer to my question was sudo dmidecode
[17:58] <BluesKaj> mcloy, good to know , thanks
[17:59] <mcloy> welcome
[18:00] <BluesKaj> wow, that's a bit too much info :)
[18:03] <mcloy> BluesKaj, lspci -v will give you more
[18:05] <Syria> Hello,,, How Can I apply a socks proxy system wide? Kubuntu 12.04 .
[18:05] <Syria> please...
[18:08] <lorddelta> So basic question...but say I want lsb_release -a to say Kubuntu?
[18:08] <lorddelta> It currently says Ubuntu
[18:08] <lorddelta> KDE works just fine.
[18:08] <lorddelta> But. I'd like to switch at will ;)
[18:09] <Syria> System wide proxy please. :(
[18:14] <BluesKaj> lorddelta, it won't say kubuntu afaik
[18:14] <lorddelta> BluesKaj: This because Kubuntu no longer officially exists in Canonical's eyes?
[18:14] <lorddelta> Or that's just how it is?
[18:17] <mozzy39> think its just how it is
[18:17] <mozzy39> System:    Host linux-desktop Kernel 3.2.0-24-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[18:17] <mozzy39>            Desktop KDE 4.8.3 Distro Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[18:18] <mozzy39> id like that to say Kubuntu myself
[18:18] <mozzy39> guess it looks more to the base then the DM
[18:18] <mozzy39> desktop manager
[18:19] <BluesKaj> lor nope , it's because both OS use the same core
[18:19] <mozzy39> or should i say DE
[18:19] <BluesKaj> lorddelta, ^
[18:19] <mozzy39> yeah same core
[18:20] <mozzy39> so it reads the core and just spits that out
[18:20] <mozzy39> my guess
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Syria, system settings>nework settings>proxy
[18:22] <Syria> BluesKaj:  Which option should I choose please?
[18:23] <Syria> BluesKaj:  Use system proxy configuration?
[18:23] <Syria> BluesKaj: I want it to affect virtual box. BluesKaj
[18:29] <lorddelta> Ok.
[18:29] <lorddelta> mozzy39, BluesKaj, I can live with that.
[18:29] <lorddelta> At least until Kubuntu raises enough support/garners a kernel/distro dev.
[18:30] <lorddelta> Granted I guess it means I can still purchase support from Canonical...
[18:32] <graft> okay, i ask this question every few weeks, still hoping for an answer: how do i make firefox use KDE programs instead of gnome ones (or, for some reason i cannot fathom, acrobat reader)?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> graft, do you have gnome/unity installed ?
[18:34] <lorddelta> graft: firefox doesn't have the programs preferences section?
[18:34] <lorddelta> *Applications
[18:34] <graft> yeah, this was originally an ubuntu install
[18:35] <graft> lorddelta: yeah, but i don't want to have to go through and change every single application by hand
[18:35] <lorddelta> hmm...
[18:35] <BluesKaj> syon, sorry , I'm not real familiar with proxy
[18:35] <graft> this is why i use computers for things, so they can do the work for me :)
[18:35] <lorddelta> graft: Theoretically
[18:35] <BluesKaj> oops he's gone
[18:36] <lorddelta> Although in this case some poor human had to do it by hand originally
[18:36] <lorddelta> graft: I don't know that there would be a kde firefox compat package, but that's what I'd look for
[18:37] <lorddelta> graft: rekonq is kde's browser
[18:37] <graft> yeah... i would assume they'd support other browsers though
[18:37] <BluesKaj> graft, then gnome apps are still default . so if you want kde apps to be default hen you know what to do
[18:37] <lorddelta> graft: I wouldn't assume anything as presumptious as that
[18:38] <graft> BluesKaj: what's that?
[18:38] <lorddelta> BluesKaj: You sure that affects the browser?
[18:38] <L3tops> graft:  it is a :settings thing in firefox what is used
[18:38] <lorddelta> BluesKaj: I know I've run into issues like graft's before, changing system defaults didn't always change firefox's
[18:38] <L3tops> you type something in the address bar beginning with :
[18:38] <L3tops> I cant remember what it is
[18:39] <BluesKaj> lorddelta, nope I'm not sure , but FF defaults to gnome if it's available > I can tell you that from experience
[18:43] <graft> sigh... should i try rekonq? is it anywhere close to as nice as firefox?
[18:44] <graft> well, it seems to have crashed out of the box, so i guess no
[18:49] <lelamal> graft: you can always try konqueror
[18:49] <BluesKaj> graft, FF integration with kde is being dropped ...heard that thru the rumour mill ...is chromium an option for you ?
[18:52] <robotdevil> WHAT
[18:52] <robotdevil> I only use ff, konq is slow, chormium looks rough
[18:53] <graft> BluesKaj: i use chromium sometimes, but i much prefer FF... does chromium integrate any better?
[18:53] <graft> what's the deal with konq vs. rekonq?
[18:54] <robotdevil> I think rekonq is supposed to be more of a browser and less of dev tool
[18:54] <graft> konqueror is meant to be a dev tool?
[18:54] <lelamal> graft: konqueror is KDE's default browser, has been around for a while and is very stable. Rekonq is rather young and still buggy
[18:54] <BluesKaj> dunno , sounds political ...konqueror was/is a perfectly goiod browser
[18:54] <BluesKaj> good
[18:55] <BluesKaj> used it for a long time
[18:55] <graft> konqueror isn't even installed on my system, it seems like
[18:55] <graft> so either kubuntu thinks rekonq is a better default, or it's on the outs
[18:55] <robotdevil> anyone try launching .exe from the desktop on 12.04    I couldnt get it to work
[18:56] <graft> i used konqueror a lot back in like 2002 and it was a fine alternative to mozilla then
[19:07] <BluesKaj> graft, like i said , it's political ... just mention that in the kde chat and certain pll will throw thinly veiled insults :)
[19:09] <BluesKaj> robotdevil, is the file extn .exe , then you have to run it in wine or windows
[19:14] <robotdevil> BluesKaj: yes, anyway how do I make a shortcut to point to a windows executable from the desktop or from the panel
[19:19] <BluesKaj> robotdevil, well drag it to the desktop or panel , it should open with wine if wine is installed
[19:19] <cancer> L3tops: can i get xorg.conf
[19:20] <robotdevil> I dont want the executable on the desktop just a link
[19:21] <BluesKaj> it is a link
[19:22] <cancer> BluesKaj: did L3tops posted any link for custom 'xorg.conf' file?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> dunno
[19:23] <L3tops> busy
[19:26] <cancer> http://paste.kde.org/487172/
[19:53] <cancer> L3tops: i have solved 'signal out of range' issue by just changing 'horizontal/vertical sync' from 'xorg.conf' monitor section. :)
[19:53] <L3tops> busy... dont need a play by play... happy for you.
[19:54] <cancer> L3tops: OK :D
[20:11] <cancer> i want to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary'
[20:11] <cancer> will this command work for that sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[20:11] <cancer> sudo apt-get update
[21:00] <E144> Can anyone tell me what bluesystems is and what they do
[21:09] <apachelogger> ScottK: there you go :P
[21:09] <apachelogger> E144: they sponsor KDE-related software development
[21:10] <lelamal> E144: I don't know much, but you can follow the links in their website: http://blue-systems.com/
[21:11] <E144> Oh ic
[21:13] <E144> Is there a kde plasmoid similar to ubuntus chat/logoff in the top right of ubuntu - i had trouble configuring kde exactly as i needed it
[21:27] <dougl> anyway you can trigger rotating cube with mousebutton combo?
[21:31] <E144> I dont but i think theres a way
[21:54] <dougl> how do I change the number of desktops I have - cant find anywhere
[22:05] <Sentynel> dougl: you can right click on the switcher on the panel, or system settings > workspace behaviour for the full settings
[22:11] <Kondor> mmmm
[22:40] <wasea> Всем русскоязычным и всем кто не может уснуть привет!!
[22:40] <Unit193> !ru | wasea
[22:42] <wasea>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:45] <robotdevil> So I am trying to link a windows executable in my filesystem to my kde4 panel. To a custom icon on the panel