[01:20] <Zlycher> Where is a good place to start learning about Terminal?
[01:20] <escott> Zlycher, man pages? unix in a nutshell
[01:21] <Zlycher> Okay sweet thanks
[04:39] <stlsaint>  /window 31
[04:40] <IAmNotThatGuy> Lol
[04:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> Stlsaint. Did you mean "windoze" ? :P
[04:42] <stlsaint> no :P
[04:42] <IAmNotThatGuy> He he
[04:44] <Unit193> http://niklas.laxstrom.name/page/eng/irssi that may help...
[10:02] <raubvogel> How can I find out which device grub thinks it was installed to?
[10:05] <bioterror> check /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:05] <bioterror> that's where it checks it out
[10:05] <raubvogel> bioterror: Thanks. Right now I am dist-upgrading a machine and got this: http://pastie.org/private/g4q677aemhwcqsx199mng
[10:05] <bioterror> you want to install it on /dev/sda
[10:06] <bioterror> no numbers
[10:06] <bioterror> just plain SDA
[10:06] <raubvogel> bioterror: Coolness. /boot/grub/grub.cfg was giving me loads of uuids, which makes me understand why it was bitching
[10:06] <bioterror> you will probably get a new more reasonable config file ;)
[10:07] <raubvogel> That is always an improvement :)
[10:07] <raubvogel> Fingers crossed while it reboots
[10:09] <raubvogel> it's back :)
[10:12] <raubvogel> bioterror: danke!
[20:30] <tats> hi
[20:31] <tats> i'm trying to install ubuntu as a dual boot on a pc with windows xp installed
[20:31] <tats> i ran the installation cd (ubuntu alternate on usb stick) but on the partition step i can't resize the ntfs partition
[20:32] <tats> how can I resize the ntfs partition (make it smaller) so as to create a partition for linux?
[20:33] <bioterror> use gparted?
[20:35] <escott> tats, when you boot the livecd you can choose to "try ubuntu" and use gparted there
[20:36] <tats> escott: the livecd is not the same as the installation cd i guess
[20:36] <tats> cause i didn't see that option
[20:37] <geirha> They are the same
[20:38] <geirha> Anyway, which option did you choose at the partitioning step?
[20:38] <tats> manual
[20:38] <geirha> It should be possible to slide on the figures representing your harddrive and its partition... though I haven't tried the 12.04 installer yet
[20:40] <tats> geirha: i didn't see an option "try ubuntu"
[20:41] <geirha> the menu is hidden now. When there's a purple screen with a keyboard = human icon, you can hit a key on your keyboard to get the menu
[20:42] <geirha> Hm... or strike that
[20:43] <geirha> Just booted the 12.04 iso in a VM, you get the choice at the very first step of the installer, where you choose language and then you can click on "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
[20:43] <tats> let me check once again
[20:44] <tats> nope
[20:44] <tats> i don't have the "Try ubuntu" option
[20:45] <tats> maybe because I'm using the alternate version
[20:45] <geirha> what is the first option you're greated with?
[20:45] <tats> "Install Ubuntu"
[20:45] <escott> tats, yeah the alternate installer is just the debian installer so there is no gui
[20:46] <tats> i see
[20:46] <geirha> Oh! sorry, I missed that you said the alternative iso earlier
[20:46] <escott> tats, you could probably ctrl-alt-f1 but i dont know how to resize from the cli parted
[20:47] <geirha> I'd consider just resizing it from windows
[20:47] <tats> geirha: yeah that's what i think would be best
[20:47] <geirha> just leave some unpartitioned space behind, and let ubuntu grab that
[20:47] <tats> is there a standard program on winxp to use for that? on windows xp?
[20:49] <geirha> I think so. Disk Management or something like that
[21:06] <tats> what is the difference between the standard ubuntu and the alternate? my friend recommended me to use alternate, i don't know why
[21:06] <tats> maybe i should use the standard install it would make everything much easier
[21:08] <escott> tats, alternate is no gui and supports raid/lvm and more exotic setups
[21:09] <tats> escott: ah ok, i understand now... it's because i want to use lvm
[22:25] <zeidoz> \o
[22:25] <zeidoz> any ideas why i couldn't cat a file with 777 permissions?
[22:26] <zeidoz> hmmm, i have an idea
[22:28] <zeidoz> nope, didn't do it