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HungryMan | Hey, is this a good place to make a feature request/ suggestion? I was brought by the wiki =p | 02:18 |
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* apw yawns | 07:46 | |
smb | apw, needs more loudness | 07:47 |
smb | ... and listening caps | 07:47 |
smb | apw, you are loud now (or where) but could not hear me | 07:48 |
apw | right ... so normal 'mic adjusting to my level' thing | 07:48 |
apw | and pulse being broken | 07:48 |
diwic | of course it's the kernel that's broken | 07:49 |
smb | diwic, That is a dangerous thing to say here | 07:49 |
apw | diwic, heh probabally | 07:50 |
diwic | smb, my point was that pulse is often being blamed for problems elsewhere in the stack | 07:50 |
apw | diwic, especially by people who maintain other bits of it | 07:50 |
smb | diwic, Its cannot ever be our lovely kernel... :-P | 07:51 |
apw | s/lovely/near perfect/ | 07:51 |
apw | s/near perfect/near angelic/ | 07:51 |
diwic | I find it strange that mumble/murmur does not have an echo service, like skype test call. | 07:55 |
smb | diwic, It does, its called colleagues... | 08:02 |
apw | diwic, that would be nice | 08:18 |
apw | Merge branch 'perf-uprobes-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ | 08:55 |
apw | 08:55 | |
apw | Pull user-space probe instrumentation from Ingo Molnar: | 08:55 |
apw | smb, who was asking for uprobes ? | 08:56 |
smb | apw, someone... cannot remember | 08:56 |
apw | ogasawara, - The seccomp work from Will Drewry | 09:05 |
apw | seems we should expect that to fall out in v3.5 | 09:05 |
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ppisati | brb | 09:36 |
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ogasawara | apw: cool, I'll make a note for the 3.5-rc1 rebase | 13:00 |
jsalisbury | henrix, tgardner, just curious if someone had a chance to review bug 1002388 ? There are several new duplicates today. | 13:07 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1002388 in linux "package linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic 3.2.0-24.38 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 17" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002388 | 13:07 |
jMCg | OH YEAH! I know where it's stuck! | 13:33 |
jMCg | Finally! Good Afternoon ladies and gentleman. And welcome back to my favourite most bug! | 13:34 |
tgardner | apw, very sensible | 13:34 |
jMCg | http://dpaste.com/752116/ | 13:36 |
apw | jMCg, ? | 13:37 |
jMCg | apw: that's where it's stuck. It's not moving on from that point on. | 13:38 |
jMCg | That's what I see in the serial console - and it's not answering on any of the IPs I configured so I'll assume it's dead, Jim. | 13:40 |
apw | jMCg, does this happen reliably ? | 13:41 |
apw | if you add --verbose to the kernel command line (yes with the --) it will tell upstart (init) to tell us more about what it is doing as it goes, and may tell us what is stuck | 13:41 |
jMCg | apw: currently I'm booting Lucid with the kernel from Host which is running Precise. | 13:42 |
jMCg | But, yeah, I'll add --verbose and see what happens. | 13:42 |
jMCg | I have a feeling I'm doing this debugging every six or so months. | 13:43 |
jMCg | apw: http://sprunge.us/aRZA | 13:45 |
xnox | As part of 'backport kernels back to precise' are fs-tools backported as well (e.g. btrfs, ext4, etc)? | 13:46 |
xnox | if yes, how/where/by whom/? | 13:46 |
apw | xnox, hmmm, not currently, tgardner i wonder if we should be pulling fsck et al back as part of hwe-server conceptually | 13:47 |
tgardner | apw, only if there are significant improvements. Even then, they can come in via the -backports pocket and work for all kernels. | 13:48 |
xnox | ok. | 13:48 |
apw | tgardner, seems reasonable | 13:48 |
jMCg | apw: I may add --debug too, for more verbosity. | 13:48 |
xnox | After uploading updated btrfs-tools, almost immediatly I get a followup "can we have it in precise please?" | 13:49 |
apw | jMCg, i have been offered this "http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#establish-blocking-job" as maybe helpful | 13:49 |
apw | xnox, heh ... now thats not a supprise | 13:50 |
apw | jMCg, can you pastebing the --debug output pls | 13:50 |
apw | tgardner, so this symlink thing do we want to figure it out or just avoid id | 13:51 |
apw | tgardner, as if i unlink it, its gone and we'll never know about the error | 13:51 |
jMCg | apw: probably more easily that finding the blocking job. | 13:51 |
tgardner | apw, we likely have to figure itout 'cause it may impact LUKs installs, etc | 13:51 |
apw | tgardner, ok then just the fixed errors so we can tell which went wrong then | 13:51 |
tgardner | apw, right. we can get cjw and infinity to have a look as well. they likely have the institutional knowledge to advise us. | 13:52 |
jMCg | apw: it's just 40 lines longer.. http://sprunge.us/iGaU | 13:53 |
apw | jMCg, it feels like mountall has started and not finished | 13:56 |
apw | can you check the UUIDs from fstab, that they match both the swap and / | 13:56 |
jMCg | apw: I don't use UUIDs in /etc/fstab | 13:56 |
apw | missing device then, are all the device names right | 13:57 |
jMCg | apw: it's hard to get them wrong /dev/vda for / - /dev/vdb for swap, /dev/vdc for /var, /dev/vdd for /opt | 13:57 |
jMCg | But I'll check again. | 13:57 |
apw | smb, didn't we change the device names for virtual disks somewhen between lucid and precise ? | 13:58 |
apw | jMCg, did you say you had lucid userspace and precise kernel ? | 13:58 |
smb | apw, yes for xen | 13:58 |
apw | smb, was vda xen ? | 13:58 |
jMCg | Yeah, the software I need to run doesn't support prceise yet :-/ | 13:58 |
apw | so was the precise kernel just the HOST or in the VM as well | 13:59 |
smb | apw, It was hacked to sda for pv disks but shouold always have ben xvda | 13:59 |
smb | apw, vda sounds like kvm | 14:00 |
apw | smb, ok not that then | 14:00 |
jMCg | KVM it is. | 14:01 |
jMCg | Sorry, I'm pretty and sure I mentioned that. Yesterday. | 14:01 |
apw | be assured none of us can remember more than 10m ago, let alone yesterday | 14:02 |
jMCg | Which reminds me, I made tea.. a while ago. | 14:02 |
apw | see, you didn't remember your tea. heinus crimb | 14:02 |
apw | tgardner, top of quantal i386 generic is pae right ? | 14:03 |
tgardner | apw, that doesn't make sense to me. the _only_ i386 flavour is generic (which is PAE) | 14:04 |
apw | tgardner, thats what i was asking ... making sure i was building the flavour i watned | 14:05 |
jMCg | I think last time I had this problem i fixed it by upgrading to whatever came before what we have now. | 14:06 |
jMCg | 11.10, probably. | 14:07 |
jMCg | But I cannot do that in this case, because zimbra. | 14:07 |
apw | so disks matches for both fss and swap | 14:10 |
apw | jMCg, whats in your fstab | 14:12 |
jMCg | http://sprunge.us/MfYW | 14:13 |
jodh | jMCg: try adding '-v' to mountall in /etc/init/mountall.conf, and then creating a job like this:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006452/ | 14:13 |
jMCg | cool. | 14:14 |
jodh | jMCg: ... and try commenting those 2 remote mounts out of /etc/fstab :) | 14:14 |
jMCg | jodh: pfft ;) | 14:14 |
apw | jodh, do we do those at the same time, not later in a second mount pass ? | 14:15 |
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jMCg | apw, jodh - while adding -v might have done something, I don't think the job I created did: http://sprunge.us/ggIV | 14:25 |
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jodh | apw: it seems to tag remote mounts "nowait" so they will get processed after the rest, yes. | 14:32 |
jodh | jMCg: so did you comment out those 2 mounts? Can you boot to runlevel 1 btw? | 14:32 |
jMCg | jodh: yes, I did comment them out, and no, apparently not. | 14:33 |
jodh | jMCg: so you've tried an explicit "1" on the command-line? | 14:33 |
jMCg | jodh: no, I haven't - I never new you could do that! | 14:33 |
jMCg | "virsh destroy mail" | 14:34 |
jMCg | I'm glad it's actually harmless. | 14:34 |
jMCg | jodh: nope, 1 odesn't do a thing :-/ | 14:40 |
jodh | jMCg: ? it hangs still attempting to boot to runlevel 1? | 14:41 |
jMCg | jodh: yes | 14:42 |
jMCg | I might add that I don't see anything in either VNC or the serial console. | 14:51 |
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apw | tgardner, i am conflicted about putting a buglink in this fix for the grub errors, as we are almost cirtainly going to want to sru it to try and get more information from these failures, but i don't want the bug to close really ... sigh | 15:02 |
apw | tgardner, i feel i am right to put it in regardless | 15:03 |
apw | jsalisbury, bug #1002388 this is your master bug right ? | 15:03 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1002388 in linux "package linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic 3.2.0-24.38 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 17" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002388 | 15:03 |
jsalisbury | apw, correct | 15:03 |
jodh | jMCg: has this system ever booted correctly? I came in late to the conversation. Have you put any non-default jobs in place? If so, disable them. Maybe try booting with "init=/bin/bash" then "mount -oremount,rw /" and have a sniff around. | 15:10 |
apw | jsalisbury, so when these debug fixes drop into quantal, and likely later into precise we need to move the bug back to 'in progress' | 15:15 |
jodh | jMCg: err - hold on. I think mountall is getting SIGTRAP - indicating dodgy hardware. | 15:15 |
jsalisbury | apw, will do. How will I know when the debug fixes land? | 15:16 |
apw | well quantal i have pushed it in already so on the next upload, we'll see if the world explodes and if not then we'll push it back | 15:17 |
jMCg | jodh: it's a VM! | 15:17 |
jsalisbury | apw, ok, thanks | 15:17 |
apw | jsalisbury, not ideal, sigh, i could file a separate bug for the debug i guess, would that be less confusing? | 15:17 |
jsalisbury | apw, nah, I understand ;-) | 15:18 |
jMCg | Right. | 15:18 |
apw | jsalisbury, thanks ... i will forget :) | 15:21 |
jMCg | jodh: this is a KVM starting up a Lucid, and I'm booting it with Precise kernel because I dunno.. Grub doesn't quite boot it either.. | 15:22 |
jodh | jMCg: hmm. well waitid() appears to be returning SIGTRAP for mountall looking at your log. So has this system ever booted?? | 15:28 |
jMCg | jodh: it's KVM - it's booting many other other (Precise) VMs | 15:29 |
jodh | jMCg: that's not what i asked - has the vm we're talking about ever booted correctly? I came into this issue half way through. | 15:34 |
jMCg | jodh: nope. | 15:34 |
jMCg | Well, it has - with a grml ISO. | 15:34 |
jodh | jMCg: and going back to the other question - have you installed any additional jobs over the default set? | 15:35 |
jMCg | jodh: yes: ttyS0.conf | 15:36 |
jMCg | jodh: and the one you told me to install | 15:36 |
jMCg | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006452/ | 15:36 |
jMCg | I think it was you. Something about 10 minutes memory. | 15:37 |
jodh | jMCg: what does your ttyS0 do exacly? I can guess, but I'd rather see it. | 15:37 |
jodh | jMCg: and have you tried booting with init= yet? | 15:37 |
jMCg | 16:02:10 < apw> be assured none of us can remember more than 10m ago, let alone yesterday | 15:38 |
jMCg | jodh: not this time around. I was actually just getting ready for dinner, because sugar levels gone down and concentration out the window and stuff. | 15:38 |
jodh | jMCg: right - can this wait until Monday then? | 15:39 |
jMCg | probably I got enough other things to do. | 15:40 |
jMCg | jodh: which timezone are you? | 15:40 |
jMCg | I should probably pass init= an init.. | 15:40 |
jodh | jMCg: BST | 15:41 |
jMCg | otherwise you get: http://dpaste.com/752152/ ! | 15:41 |
jMCg | jodh: excellent. I'm in CEST. | 15:41 |
jMCg | Target filesystem doesn't have requested /bin/zsh. | 15:42 |
jMCg | ooops. | 15:42 |
jMCg | <cmdline>root=/dev/vda ro serial=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400 init=/bin/sh</cmdline> | 15:44 |
jMCg | still gets stuck at: Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done. | 15:45 |
jMCg | Anyway, off for dinner now. | 15:45 |
jodh | jMCg: try init=/bin/bash as I said. | 15:45 |
jMCg | 17:37:52 < jodh> jMCg: and have you tried booting with init= yet? | 15:45 |
jMCg | ;) | 15:45 |
jodh | jMCg: that was the reminder - look further up. | 15:45 |
jodh | jMCg: :) | 15:46 |
jMCg | Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done. | 15:46 |
jMCg | bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device | 15:46 |
jMCg | bash: no job control in this shell | 15:46 |
jodh | jMCg: that's expected - and you now have a shell. | 15:46 |
jMCg | jodh: headache, cold, and running nose all do prevent me from looking further up. | 15:47 |
jMCg | jodh: \o/ | 15:47 |
jMCg | Also, hunger. gaaaahnmpfzd. I'll leave the shell where it is, and see if I can get this thing booting itself after dinner. | 15:49 |
jMCg | And I need to restock hankie supply. | 15:49 |
jMCg | So, happy Towelday, and read you later o/~ | 15:50 |
tgardner | apw, is this right for the enforcer ? "arch amd64 & value CONFIG_XEN_ACPI_PROCESSOR y" | 15:52 |
cking | kirkland, more eCryptfs results heading your way | 15:56 |
apw | tgardner, checking | 15:56 |
apw | tgardner, do we care about the value in the other arches ? | 15:58 |
apw | tgardner, i worry it will be invalid on non-amd64, give me a sec to test | 15:59 |
apw | (arch amd64 & value CONFIG_XEN_ACPI_PROCESSOR y) | !arch amd64 | 16:01 |
apw | tgardner, ^^ | 16:01 |
kirkland | cking: woohoo! | 16:10 |
kirkland | cking: dude, you're tearing this up :-) | 16:10 |
kirkland | cking: really excited to have you on this :-) | 16:10 |
cking | kirkland, well, lets see what the results are on normal laptops - I don't want to get too excited yet ;-) | 16:10 |
kirkland | cking: heh | 16:12 |
kirkland | cking: i'm excited already | 16:12 |
cking | kirkland, yep, I'm pleased with the SSD results - it certainly is a positive step forward | 16:13 |
tgardner | ogasawara, even if we don't upload a 3.5-rc1 kernel for A1, we should consider uploading whats in master-next right now since it'll fix some AA problems. | 16:40 |
ogasawara | tgardner: was thinking the same and was gonna shove up an upload this afternoon | 16:41 |
tgardner | ogasawara, I like the way you think :) | 16:41 |
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splnet | How do I enable the kernel crashdump utility? I ran apt-get install linux-crashdump; reboot ; Then after rebooting, I experienced a kernel panic.. but it didn't reboot into the crash kernel. | 16:49 |
splnet | Is this what is supposed to happen? | 16:49 |
tgardner | Caribou, haven't you been working on this ? ^^ | 16:50 |
ppisati | herton: new P/omap4 "released" (1414.19), 1413.18 invalidated | 16:59 |
herton | ppisati, ack, will upload once the previous one QA and releases | 17:01 |
herton | previous one == .17 | 17:01 |
ppisati | herton: ack | 17:02 |
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ogasawara | dchroot -c quantal-amd64 | 17:27 |
ogasawara | em: Access not authorised | 17:27 |
ogasawara | ia: You do not have permission to access the schroot service. | 17:27 |
ogasawara | ia: This failure will be reported. | 17:27 |
ogasawara | tgardner-lunch: ^^ when you get back, seeing this on gomeisa | 17:27 |
apw | ogasawara, i think i've added you to sbuild | 17:42 |
apw | if you could logout, in and retest | 17:42 |
ogasawara | apw: ack | 17:42 |
ogasawara | apw: ah much better, thanks | 17:43 |
apw | ogasawara, hopfully i got everyone | 17:44 |
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jMCg | So! I'm back. From dinner. And I have bash as init. | 17:48 |
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tgardner | ogasawara, I know whats going on. gimme a sec | 17:52 |
ogasawara | tgardner: apw got me sorted | 17:52 |
tgardner | apw, did you run the install_kernel_devs.sh script ? | 17:53 |
apw | tgardner, nope, i thought that'd been done already | 17:53 |
tgardner | hmm, he must have. | 17:53 |
apw | i just sorted the groups | 17:53 |
tgardner | apw, you can run it repeatadly | 17:53 |
apw | i just sorted the groups | 17:53 |
apw | bah ... ok you should prolly do that | 17:54 |
tgardner | apw, its ok, on these LDAP machines that is about all the script accomplishes | 17:54 |
apw | ahh right | 17:55 |
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jjohansen | bjf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/971685, for the Quantal nomination is there in reason that is marked In Progress | 18:36 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 971685 in linux "CVE-2012-1601" [Medium,In progress] | 18:36 |
jjohansen | bjf: the fix is in the commit logs | 18:37 |
bjf | jjohansen: no reason i can think of | 18:38 |
jjohansen | bjf: okay, I'll change it then, thanks | 18:38 |
bjf | jjohansen: maybe i clicked on the wrong task and didn't notice | 18:38 |
* ogasawara lunch | 18:53 | |
HungryMan | Is this the proper area to make a feature request? | 20:12 |
ogasawara | wow, he didn't stick around long. and I was just about to tell him to file a bug | 20:16 |
jsalisbury | heh | 20:16 |
apw | heh he was in yesterday for a bit, again with noone about | 20:20 |
tgardner | ogasawara, pushed a couple of config changes before you pacvkage and upload | 20:24 |
ogasawara | tgardner: I saw the IWLWIFI_EXPERIMENTAL_MFP change. I was gonna hold it till the next upload as I'd already prepped the package and test built | 20:25 |
tgardner | ogasawara, thats fine. I'm just grinding through the config blueprint | 20:25 |
ogasawara | tgardner: ack, thanks for doing that | 20:26 |
tgardner | ogasawara, its mostly mindless, which is where I'm at this time of the week. | 20:26 |
tgardner | apw, CONFIG_CIFS_EXPERIMENTAL seems to have disappeared out of all Kconfigs, so why doesn't it get elided on an updateconfigs ? | 20:35 |
apw | tgardner, looking | 20:37 |
apw | tgardner, indeed, and its not in the generated configs either ... will poke its a thinko somewhere | 20:44 |
tgardner | apw, it'll wait until next week. I think I'm done for the day. | 20:45 |
apw | tgardner, its on my todo :) | 20:45 |
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hallyn | say, should 'apt-get install linux-headers-virtual' install linux-headers-3.2.0-23-virtual ? | 21:11 |
jMCg | hallyn: it should instll linux-headers-$latest-virtual, yes | 21:18 |
hallyn | ideally :) | 21:18 |
hallyn | doesn't seem to be happening though | 21:18 |
hallyn | (i'd have to fire up a new instance to debug more) this is on ec2 | 21:18 |
hallyn | basically after i do apt-get install linux-headers-virtual, i can't yet apt-get install --reinstall openvswitch-datapath-dkms | 21:19 |
hallyn | but after installing linux-headers-`uname -r` i can | 21:19 |
arges | sforshee, hey still around? | 21:24 |
sforshee | arges, hey | 21:47 |
arges | sforshee, hey, was going to bug you about a bug, but its too close to EOD. : ) | 21:48 |
sforshee | arges, sorry I didn't notice your ping earlier, I was off playing with a different machine | 21:48 |
arges | sforshee, yea no problem. | 21:48 |
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