| * bobweaver reads ^^ | 00:41 | |
| bobweaver | Ok I have a couple of questions why would we use a "default image" and Not Ubuntu Core ? < making ISO's | 00:47 |
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| bobweaver | mhall119, is right the more scopes that we have the better off Ubuntu TV will be. I need help with a scope and lens. that I am building for yourtube, (it is just a old altered scope) I have Ubuntu TV installed to 12.04 and the Video lens Also works from there "the stock one" | 00:49 |
| bobweaver | To recap What I have been up too I made it so that all things work from the launcher (besides youtube) I added three more launchers to the launcher | 00:51 |
| bobweaver | contacts | 00:51 |
| bobweaver | photos | 00:51 |
| bobweaver | files and folders | 00:51 |
| bobweaver | For the last tqwo day's I have been trying like heck to get "nm-applet" plugged in but with no luck | 00:52 |
| bobweaver | so I am building network manager from ground up | 00:52 |
| bobweaver | that is going to take a bit | 00:52 |
| bobweaver | I am hoping to have done by sunday but we will see | 00:53 |
| bobweaver | the power button runs "gnome-session-quit" Now | 00:53 |
| bobweaver | Things that I need HELP with are wrote down http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985869 | 00:55 |
| bobweaver | Thou some Jack wagon thinks that they are for something else LOL | 00:56 |
| bobweaver | Some thing to think about Game System lens and scope that is for Good Emulators IE jpsp pcsx2 pcsx muppen ect | 01:05 |
| bobweaver | stuff that still requires end user to use bios codes | 01:05 |
| bobweaver | Other things to think about https://code.launchpad.net/onehundredscopes | 01:07 |
| bobweaver | there are some real good ones in there that should be pluged in | 01:08 |
| bobweaver | like watchseries | 01:08 |
| bobweaver | I have pluged GroveShark into the Music lens also | 01:09 |
| bobweaver | But I think that Puging in and make a ubuntu One lens and scope is so important | 01:13 |
| bobweaver | I should be sending video/audio logs to the mailing list I am hoping every 3 days from now on out. | 01:53 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, we're making a default image. SImilar to how mythbuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu are done | 02:17 |
| tgm4883 | we wouldn't add in things that don't make sense for a TV distribution | 02:18 |
| bobweaver | tgm4883, where or how can I get involved with that ? and is it being what is being used to build like core up ? | 02:18 |
| bobweaver | we are talking about debian live here ? | 02:19 |
| tgm4883 | i'm not familiar with debian live | 02:19 |
| bobweaver | it uses hooks and scripts to build a image | 02:20 |
| bobweaver | it is quite useful | 02:20 |
| tgm4883 | it's similar I guess | 02:20 |
| bobweaver | Is there any docs on this or anything so that I am not spinning my wheels | 02:20 |
| tgm4883 | There are the man pages I linked earlier | 02:21 |
| bobweaver | ok | 02:21 |
| tgm4883 | popey_ might know where more info is, he interviewed someone from that project on UUPC | 02:21 |
| bobweaver | what are good scopes that you think should 100% be inculded | 02:22 |
| bobweaver | I keep reading that canonical is waiting on corp or angles too show up | 02:23 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, rather than including a bunch of scopes, IMHO I think there needs to be an easy way to install scopes | 02:23 |
| bobweaver | that could be real easy with C++ QT with the framework that is already in place | 02:23 |
| bobweaver | but there must be base one's right music pictures | 02:24 |
| bobweaver | contacts | 02:24 |
| tgm4883 | well the issue is we need either A) the ability to install scopes to root only areas using only a remote | 02:24 |
| tgm4883 | or more likely, B), being able to use scopes installed in the home directory | 02:24 |
| bobweaver | we could just use apt yea | 02:24 |
| bobweaver | tied into C++ QT with xml | 02:25 |
| tgm4883 | right, but that is something we'd have to talk to another team about | 02:25 |
| bobweaver | like have a section like software center for lenses and scopes | 02:25 |
| bobweaver | only ^^ | 02:25 |
| bobweaver | I know that I like to uses the applications lens and scope more then any other but I do not have pvr/dvr card | 02:26 |
| tgm4883 | right, but it still needs to be installable via a remote control. Which means you either need to make it have the correct permissions to do that, or install in a location where a normal user has permission | 02:26 |
| bobweaver | could alter sudo file ? | 02:27 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, again, I think that decision is above us | 02:27 |
| tgm4883 | probably need someone from the security team to weigh in | 02:27 |
| tgm4883 | it's probably more likely to access scopes in the user directory | 02:27 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, ^^ | 02:27 |
| bobweaver | /usr/share/unity/lenes/nameoflens | 02:28 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, but a regular user can't write there | 02:28 |
| bobweaver | why write to scope or lens | 02:29 |
| tgm4883 | to install it? | 02:29 |
| bobweaver | so have key combo's for remote ? | 02:30 |
| bobweaver | to use sudo | 02:30 |
| tgm4883 | yes that is one option | 02:30 |
| bobweaver | before one can even open up the ubuntu tv software center | 02:30 |
| bobweaver | so little johhny can not go get pron | 02:30 |
| bobweaver | porn * | 02:31 |
| bobweaver | that would also take care of channels but IMHO they whole EGP needs to be looked at again | 02:31 |
| bobweaver | I want to spend more time testing your lens and try to intergrate some others | 02:32 |
| bobweaver | ohh time :) | 02:33 |
| bobweaver | I want to learn more about unity-shell and see if there is a way to cut back on some of the code. If it is possible to even only have formfactor tv and No formfactor desktop | 02:34 |
| bobweaver | If so then can the core be altered to metacity | 02:37 |
| bobweaver | I wanted to get icons and what not before I pushed code but I am going to also do that tonight | 02:39 |
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| mhall119 | tgm4883: what was that discussion about sudo? | 11:55 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, we were discussing scopes and thinking there needs to be a way to install them via remotes. Which means you either need to authenticate somehow with the remote or scopes need to be able to be installed in the home directory | 14:02 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: they will be installable the same way any software would be installed through the software center | 14:04 |
| mhall119 | presumably USC will be made remote-navigable | 14:04 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, you still have to put a password into it though | 14:04 |
| tgm4883 | which if you have a remote, kinda sucks | 14:04 |
| mhall119 | depends, I don't know how the user setup will be on TVs | 14:05 |
| jhodapp | tgm4883: what if you had a boxee-like remote with keyboard on the back? | 14:05 |
| tgm4883 | jhodapp, I don't think you can count on that | 14:05 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: with TVs being single-user and not having a login screen, it may be as simple as having a 4-digit pin | 14:05 |
| jhodapp | of course not, but then you can fall back to an on screen keyboard | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | or a modified gksudo that doesn't need a password but still requires user confirmation | 14:06 |
| jhodapp | indeed | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | at any rate, privilege escalation is something that will need to be resolves system-wide, so you should not have to worry about that when working on your lenses and scopes | 14:07 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, right. This comes from us talking about what scopes should be on the live disk, and I said they should be installable | 14:08 |
| tgm4883 | and discussion from there | 14:08 |
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| bobweaver | The more that I keep thinking about permissions and and all this other stuff(lens and what not). The more I keep thinking that people are going to want a keyboard of somekind | 16:13 |
| bobweaver | I mean people are going to want *everything* that ubuntu offers all ready | 16:14 |
| bobweaver | why not just add more | 16:14 |
| bobweaver | I like the boxy remote but I also like the idea of any remote I mean I am poor and I can not afford a remote that is $ so I think that it is best to think from that stand point | 16:16 |
| bobweaver | like yeah the software is free but ... | 16:16 |
| bobweaver | another idea is to make daemon that is ties into Ubuntu One and you Launchpad account | 16:17 |
| bobweaver | get rid of the passwords and only sign in once | 16:18 |
| bobweaver | but there is security matters to that as well but it is a option | 16:18 |
| bobweaver | C++ and QT can handle just about every thing too ? | 16:19 |
| bobweaver | but I think that SSO +LP + U.One that would work | 16:21 |
| bobweaver | modifed of cource | 16:21 |
| bobweaver | or landscape IDK maybe if we tie everything together there will be a big knot | 16:24 |
| bobweaver | IDK I have been up for a long time know. maybe If I sleep then that will be good. On a postive side of things I have all the layout done (.qml) for the indicators not just to tie in commands | 16:28 |
| bobweaver | good night everybody :) | 16:28 |
| jhodapp | goodnight bobweaver | 16:31 |
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