[00:41] * bobweaver reads ^^ [00:47] Ok I have a couple of questions why would we use a "default image" and Not Ubuntu Core ? < making ISO's [00:49] mhall119, is right the more scopes that we have the better off Ubuntu TV will be. I need help with a scope and lens. that I am building for yourtube, (it is just a old altered scope) I have Ubuntu TV installed to 12.04 and the Video lens Also works from there "the stock one" [00:51] To recap What I have been up too I made it so that all things work from the launcher (besides youtube) I added three more launchers to the launcher [00:51] contacts [00:51] photos [00:51] files and folders [00:52] For the last tqwo day's I have been trying like heck to get "nm-applet" plugged in but with no luck [00:52] so I am building network manager from ground up [00:52] that is going to take a bit [00:53] I am hoping to have done by sunday but we will see [00:53] the power button runs "gnome-session-quit" Now [00:55] Things that I need HELP with are wrote down http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985869 [00:56] Thou some Jack wagon thinks that they are for something else LOL [01:05] Some thing to think about Game System lens and scope that is for Good Emulators IE jpsp pcsx2 pcsx muppen ect [01:05] stuff that still requires end user to use bios codes [01:07] Other things to think about https://code.launchpad.net/onehundredscopes [01:08] there are some real good ones in there that should be pluged in [01:08] like watchseries [01:09] I have pluged GroveShark into the Music lens also [01:13] But I think that Puging in and make a ubuntu One lens and scope is so important [01:53] I should be sending video/audio logs to the mailing list I am hoping every 3 days from now on out. [02:17] bobweaver, we're making a default image. SImilar to how mythbuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu are done [02:18] we wouldn't add in things that don't make sense for a TV distribution [02:18] tgm4883, where or how can I get involved with that ? and is it being what is being used to build like core up ? [02:19] we are talking about debian live here ? [02:19] i'm not familiar with debian live [02:20] it uses hooks and scripts to build a image [02:20] it is quite useful [02:20] it's similar I guess [02:20] Is there any docs on this or anything so that I am not spinning my wheels [02:21] There are the man pages I linked earlier [02:21] ok [02:21] popey_ might know where more info is, he interviewed someone from that project on UUPC [02:22] what are good scopes that you think should 100% be inculded [02:23] I keep reading that canonical is waiting on corp or angles too show up [02:23] bobweaver, rather than including a bunch of scopes, IMHO I think there needs to be an easy way to install scopes [02:23] that could be real easy with C++ QT with the framework that is already in place [02:24] but there must be base one's right music pictures [02:24] contacts [02:24] well the issue is we need either A) the ability to install scopes to root only areas using only a remote [02:24] or more likely, B), being able to use scopes installed in the home directory [02:24] we could just use apt yea [02:25] tied into C++ QT with xml [02:25] right, but that is something we'd have to talk to another team about [02:25] like have a section like software center for lenses and scopes [02:25] only ^^ [02:26] I know that I like to uses the applications lens and scope more then any other but I do not have pvr/dvr card [02:26] right, but it still needs to be installable via a remote control. Which means you either need to make it have the correct permissions to do that, or install in a location where a normal user has permission [02:27] could alter sudo file ? [02:27] bobweaver, again, I think that decision is above us [02:27] probably need someone from the security team to weigh in [02:27] it's probably more likely to access scopes in the user directory [02:27] mhall119, ^^ [02:28] /usr/share/unity/lenes/nameoflens [02:28] bobweaver, but a regular user can't write there [02:29] why write to scope or lens [02:29] to install it? [02:30] so have key combo's for remote ? [02:30] to use sudo [02:30] yes that is one option [02:30] before one can even open up the ubuntu tv software center [02:30] so little johhny can not go get pron [02:31] porn * [02:31] that would also take care of channels but IMHO they whole EGP needs to be looked at again [02:32] I want to spend more time testing your lens and try to intergrate some others [02:33] ohh time :) [02:34] I want to learn more about unity-shell and see if there is a way to cut back on some of the code. If it is possible to even only have formfactor tv and No formfactor desktop [02:37] If so then can the core be altered to metacity [02:39] I wanted to get icons and what not before I pushed code but I am going to also do that tonight === popey_ is now known as popey [11:55] tgm4883: what was that discussion about sudo? [14:02] mhall119, we were discussing scopes and thinking there needs to be a way to install them via remotes. Which means you either need to authenticate somehow with the remote or scopes need to be able to be installed in the home directory [14:04] tgm4883: they will be installable the same way any software would be installed through the software center [14:04] presumably USC will be made remote-navigable [14:04] mhall119, you still have to put a password into it though [14:04] which if you have a remote, kinda sucks [14:05] depends, I don't know how the user setup will be on TVs [14:05] tgm4883: what if you had a boxee-like remote with keyboard on the back? [14:05] jhodapp, I don't think you can count on that [14:05] tgm4883: with TVs being single-user and not having a login screen, it may be as simple as having a 4-digit pin [14:06] of course not, but then you can fall back to an on screen keyboard [14:06] or a modified gksudo that doesn't need a password but still requires user confirmation [14:06] indeed [14:07] at any rate, privilege escalation is something that will need to be resolves system-wide, so you should not have to worry about that when working on your lenses and scopes [14:08] mhall119, right. This comes from us talking about what scopes should be on the live disk, and I said they should be installable [14:08] and discussion from there === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [16:13] The more that I keep thinking about permissions and and all this other stuff(lens and what not). The more I keep thinking that people are going to want a keyboard of somekind [16:14] I mean people are going to want *everything* that ubuntu offers all ready [16:14] why not just add more [16:16] I like the boxy remote but I also like the idea of any remote I mean I am poor and I can not afford a remote that is $ so I think that it is best to think from that stand point [16:16] like yeah the software is free but ... [16:17] another idea is to make daemon that is ties into Ubuntu One and you Launchpad account [16:18] get rid of the passwords and only sign in once [16:18] but there is security matters to that as well but it is a option [16:19] C++ and QT can handle just about every thing too ? [16:21] but I think that SSO +LP + U.One that would work [16:21] modifed of cource [16:24] or landscape IDK maybe if we tie everything together there will be a big knot [16:28] IDK I have been up for a long time know. maybe If I sleep then that will be good. On a postive side of things I have all the layout done (.qml) for the indicators not just to tie in commands [16:28] good night everybody :) [16:31] goodnight bobweaver === steev_ is now known as steev