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lixDarkLobster: welcome00:00
MrGizmo757Hey guys.  is it Normal for Ubuntu to Make my computer run hotter then it dose in windows?00:04
MrGizmo757i Average 41c in windows  and i average 65c in ubuntu00:05
NewWorldMrGizmo757:  Maybe look into cpu frequency scaling00:05
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NewWorldMrGizmo757:  but that's not normal and really weird that it's hotter!00:05
jimi_I am getting this error after upgrading: Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed.00:06
spacetigerI am not able to mount a shared partition on my computer ( shared between ubuntu and windows). I get an "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." Any help appreciated!00:06
MrGizmo757the CPU limit is 85 according to intel. so its still in the safe zone. but it still makes me a little nervous00:06
OerHeksjimi_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing_libdvdcss00:07
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gmachine_24Using Ubuntu 11.04; have an encrypted partition. I back up with tar - I imagine I must create an encrypted partition on a back up drive in order to back up the info on my encrypted partition - is this correct?00:07
jimi_OerHeks, its already installed00:07
rembrandtupdating to 11.04 right now..00:07
OerHeksjimi_, i know there are still encrypted dvd's that does not run after this script.00:08
blackmatrix_nyhello folks...I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a samsung notebook and after stating that it has successfully installed and needs to reboot...it just keeps on restarting itself without getting past the boot screen...anyone know this issue ?00:08
chrislu5ticI cant click allow of flash player tab,  any help ?00:09
gmachine_24did you remove the install cd?00:09
gmachine_24blackmatrix_ny, did you remove the install cd?00:10
spacetigerAnyone?!00:10
wilee-nileeblackmatrix_ny, is this a install from windows or a partitioned install?00:10
blackmatrix_nygmachine_24, I used a usb and yea I removed the install usb before rebooting00:10
blackmatrix_nywilee-nilee, I booted from the usb and did a test run and everything looked good and installation was smooth too00:11
gmachine_24blackmatrix_ny, sometimes I've had to actually turn the machine off completely and then turn it back on to get the install to work.00:11
blackmatrix_nygmachine_24, its not responding to a power button hold or lid close...trying to figure out how to remove battery to completely shut it down00:12
AethrsGrub is waiting at a menu allowing me to select the kernel or memtest86.  It just sits there forever.  This started when I held down "shift" once to revert to a earlier kernel, how do I stop it?00:12
BYCspacetiger: BYC Paste your /etc/fstab & fdisk result00:12
wilee-nileeblackmatrix_ny, try crtl-alt-o=prtsc REISUB run the leters slowly00:12
subcoolok - Um Can anyone help me with my grub? pLease00:13
subcoolim having issues00:13
wilee-nileeblackmatrix_ny,  crtl-alt-prtsc REISUB00:13
gmachine_24subcool, what are your issues00:13
Danger2012hello00:13
subcooli have a partition with ubuntu, but im not sure which one is is anymore (im kinda close). Installed win7 and lost grub.00:14
subcoolgmachine_24: trying to recover that lost ubuntu00:14
gmachine_24subcool, what happens when you turn the computer on?00:14
blackmatrix_nywilee-nilee, wouldn't let me a chance to type that...it just in a crazy cycle of rebooting...I can only press f2 successively and get into the bios to stop it from doing that00:14
wilee-nilee!bootinfo | subcool00:14
ubottusubcool: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).00:14
wilee-nileeblackmatrix_ny, I see the description is getting clearer now, not sure really.00:15
delinquentmesoo im in bash right .... and im trying to arrow around through my input .. and instead of moving the cursor .. im getting ^[[D^[[D00:15
delinquentmeanyone know what this is aboot?00:16
wilee-nileesubcool, if you run that script and pastebin it we can most likely get you set.00:16
spacetigerBYC, etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/8EWawF0q fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/JGGGpUvw00:16
gmachine_24blackmatrix_ny, sounds as if you should remove the battery and then perhaps reboot without the battery if you have the electrical cord etc.00:16
AethrsShould I do the same thing with grub waiting at a menu forever until i select the only kernel?00:17
blackmatrix_nygmachine_24, Let me try that...im a bit worried that the SSD might not be ready when the OS is trying to read from it...not really sure what is going on00:17
m0rn1ng5tardelingquentme: The previous command is still running00:17
escottgmachine_24, there is a root_delay kernel parameter you can try if blackmatrix_ny is correct00:17
gmachine_24blackmatrix, _ny, well if you can't turn the computer off that's a problem right there.00:18
erapplemanhi, my volume hotkeys no longer work. xev detects them, but the volup/voldown assignments do nothing.00:18
AethrsIs there a gui or something for grub I can persuade to boot the system without manual intervention?00:19
escottAethrs, there is a timeout in /etc/default/grub00:20
gmachine_24Aethrs, if you're relatively new to Ubuntu/Linux and even if you're not I often recommend people try a CD they can make from http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  supergrub disk 2 or rescatux - you can d/l the iso, burn it to a cd and then boot to a fix-it menu.00:21
Aethrsescott- Thanks for the suggestion.  GRUB_TIMEOUT=10, however grub will wait at least an hour.00:21
blackmatrix_nygmachine_24, ok I was able to do a hard reboot from the bios by holding the power button...still in the same cycle...it would not even boot from USB either00:21
AethrsGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0.. Not sure what this is.00:21
mopheadis there an issue with the medibuntu repository right now? my machine can't connect to it...00:21
escottAethrs, once it sees an up/down arrow i think it waits indefinitely for an ENTER, but otherwise the Timeouts should hold00:22
arooni-mobilehi folks; just swapped the hard drive in my lenovo t420 under warranty ; and i ran the smartmontools on the new drive with these results for the long test:  https://gist.github.com/2782166 ... however the DISK UTILITY says pending sector count: 20.  ... not sure if there is a conflict here or if i should be concerned...00:22
Aethrsescott- No up/down arrow.00:22
Aethrsescott- I'm just watching the virtual machine boot, not even clicked on the window.00:22
Aethrsescott- This started when my /boot filled up and it fubar'd a kernel.  I had to hold down shift to get a grub menu and boot from an earlier one.  I uninstalled manu kernels00:22
escottAethrs, i would comment the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT (or at least change it to 1 -- 0 often means infinity)00:22
escottAethrs, after you make that change be sure to run update-grub00:23
AethrsRunning update-grub now.00:23
escottAethrs, were you able to otherwise fix your full /boot00:23
Aethrsescott- Apparently all I need to do was hold down shift during boot!  I was able to select an earlier kernel and all is well.00:23
AethrsSo all that crap with boot rescue and otherwise was really the wrong track... Which was good because I couldn't get any of it to work.00:24
spacetigerBYC, any leads?00:24
escottAethrs, but you know how to remove old kernel with dpkg when your /boot fills?00:24
Aethrsescott- I used apt-get remove00:25
Aethrsescott- But yes, boot has plenty of room now.00:25
mopheadhas anyone been reporting issues with the medibuntu repository right now? my machine can't connect to it...00:25
escottAethrs, ok. just wanted to check that you got that fixed properly00:25
wilee-nileemophead, post the error in a pastebin, have you tried changing servers?00:26
Aethrsescott- Rebooting the machine now.  I'm watching it at the grub menu so hopefully it gets past it in 10 seconds.(I set the hidden to 10.)00:26
AethrsUnfortunately.. it seems to be just sitting there dumbly  :(00:26
escottAethrs, is grub_default set properly?00:26
Aethrsescott- It may not be.  How can I check?  I removed the 'latest' kernel which was fubar.00:27
BYCspacetiger: can't see any shared partion in your fstab is this error occured in your booting progress?00:28
AethrsEven installing a new kernel doesn't help.  It shows both kernels but doesn't appear to have a clue which one to use by default.  How can i set a default?00:35
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gantrySome how my language got set to Chinese.  How do I set it back to English?00:38
escottAethrs, how about just pasting your /etc/default/grub00:39
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oscarpaatsHi. I need to modify grub 2... grub.d/40_custom00:39
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gensymvHi, after reinstalling ubuntu todaay, I no longer can boot into my system. ("Operation Sysyem Not Found" and no grub). Boot-repair tells me that i have efi boot enabled and need an efi partition... is there someone that could help me with that?00:41
gensymv(there is no bios option to turn the damned thing off)00:41
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ozpyHi00:46
RakkoWhat's the proper way to compile a C program that uses varargs? It's supposed to #include <stdarg.h>, but that file doesn't seem to exist in any package. From what I've just read, stdarg is compiler-dependent so it's tucked away in a dir like /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4/include. But even if I add that to my -I path, gcc complains that it can't find the function va_start (when va_start is supposed to be a macro, not a function!)00:46
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shekk./root/gcc4.7/build/gcc/include/stdarg.h00:46
MonkeyDustRakko  #c++ is the channel you want, you have to register your nickname to enter00:46
shekkoops00:46
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Rakkoit's C, not C++. But yeah, I tried joining ##c and nickserv was down. I'm in now though. Thanks.00:46
shekk./usr/include/c++/4.6/tr1/stdarg.h00:46
MonkeyDustRakko  then #C00:46
shekkyeh there it is00:46
RakkoI'm not using C++.00:46
shekkmaybe thats your problem00:46
shekkcompile with g++00:47
Guest61807Hi, I would like to request some assistance on how to configure my CRT TV as a second monitor, to play movies on the living room, right now it has some vertical bars with inverted colors and it is plugged together via SVideo. The VGA is a NVidia FX 5500. I appreciate any input that could lead me to understand the problem. Thanks00:47
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HoNgOuRuhi, yesterday at night my  soundcard was playing fine. now I restarted and I found that the onboard soundcard is as defauilt, I can't make the system to use the other one00:50
HoNgOuRuHELP00:50
escottHoNgOuRu, make sure it is seated properly in the socket00:51
HoNgOuRuit is00:51
escottHoNgOuRu, and does the kernel see the soundcard00:51
HoNgOuRuI edited this lines to suit my needs....00:52
HoNgOuRuoptions snd_hda_intel index=000:52
HoNgOuRuoptions snd_ca0106 index=100:52
SilversongHey guys, I got a quick question. I got Flash on my Firefox for Ubuntu 12.04. When I get the little pop-up window in my flash applet, it asks me for Adobe Flash Player Setting, [Allow] [Deny], that one, I can't click either of the buttons. Anyone know why & how to fix it?00:52
subcoolcan someone help with grub issues, im having crazy issues..00:52
HoNgOuRuI want snd_hda_intel to be the default, but it plays on the other one00:52
Guest61807Hi, I would like to request some assistance on how to configure my CRT TV as a second monitor, to play movies on the living room, right now it has some vertical bars with inverted colors and it is plugged together via SVideo. The VGA is a NVidia FX 5500. I appreciate any input that could lead me to understand the problem. Thanks00:53
marckHi -- I need some help: I'm very new to linux and am attempting to install minecraft. It says I don't have permission to execute the file. can anyone lend a hand?00:53
lixsubcol: tell me...00:53
escottHoNgOuRu, if you dont want to use one of them i would either blacklist the module or just change the hardware selection in the pulseaudio control gui00:53
HoNgOuRuim not using pulseaudio00:53
Stramithhi00:53
lixStramith: hi00:53
NewWorldmarck:  Okay can you access the terminal?00:54
HoNgOuRuI want to make the default the hda, and have the other as a second choice cause it is hooked with the frontal headphones00:54
StramithTks lix00:54
escott!permissions | marck00:54
ubottumarck: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:54
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NewWorldmarck:  OK what is the installer file? A .jar file?00:55
marckall: !permissions | marck gives me :bash !permissions: event not found00:55
marckyep, it's a .jar, but the site says it should be executable00:56
HoNgOuRuescott, I dont know whats happening, yesterday I used it at night00:56
HoNgOuRuwith no problems00:56
escottHoNgOuRu, i would just say install pulseaudio00:56
NewWorldmarck:  If you are confident about the source of the file, then running "sudo java -jar installfile.jar" and supplying the password should run it00:57
netmkmarck: the .jar file for minecraft is a server only, if you didn't know.00:58
HoNgOuRuescott, ok, do I remove alsa?00:58
marckI got Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar00:58
dillonsup fellas00:58
HoNgOuRuescott,  or just sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ?00:58
netmkthe minecraft download page tells you how to run it:  java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar00:58
marckahhh, I did not know netmk00:58
marckwhen I was running windows, it also had the .jar file, so it seemed alright00:59
MrUnagi_how can i configure the display name of a message sent using mail00:59
MrUnagi_cli mail00:59
netmkah actually..00:59
escottHoNgOuRu, pulse works on top of alsa so you would keep alsa, but you would also want to install the guis00:59
netmkdepends what you downloaded00:59
netmkthere is a client version for linux00:59
HoNgOuRuok00:59
netmkhttps://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar00:59
blackmatrix_nyWould creating a startup usb for a 64 bit Ubuntu on a 32 bit computer be the cause of my booting problem ?01:00
Enkwiwhat is this minecraft link for01:00
netmkand run it with:   java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame01:00
netmkEnkwi: playing minecraft on linux.01:00
roastedHello! Any Motion users here? I'm trying to figure out what entry to edit in the config in the event my IP Camera I want to use with Motion is not on port 80. Anybody have any experience with this offhand?01:00
MagicJI am running 12.04 and do not want it to lock when I close the laptop lid - how do I disable this?01:00
marcknetmk: even with that file, it still blocks me from executing it in the "open with" function, and gives me an "Unable to access jarfile" in the terminal01:01
EnkwiTrying to run a minecraft server?01:01
netmkEnkwi: no, client.01:01
Enkwiohh okok01:01
netmkgive me a sec, i'll try it here.01:01
marckawesome thanks01:01
NewWorldmarck:  do it from terminal with the command netmk gave and see what is the output01:02
HoNgOuRuescott, if I uninstall pulseaudio, will It get back to what it was before¡?01:02
escottHoNgOuRu, i dont know01:02
wilee-nileeMagicJ, brightness and lock I think01:02
NewWorldHoNgOuRu:  It should01:02
HoNgOuRuok01:02
marckthe last one i did was "sudo java -jar minecraft.jar" and it returned "unable to access jarfile"01:02
wilee-nileein system settings MagicJ01:03
HoNgOuRuthank you, its working with pulse, ( i didn't want to install pulseaudio) but I didn't have any chance01:03
EnkwiTo play MC I just right click my .jar file and open with OpenJDK java 6 runtime01:03
marckEnkwi: it's blocking me from doing so01:03
MagicJwilee-nilee: I do not see it under settings - but I do have a brightness and lock - will try and report back01:03
subcoolGrub issues, please... if anyone has a lil amount of time. i have tried four huides.01:04
netmkmarck: hmm, works fine here if I run with:  java -jar minecraft.jar01:04
escott!details | subcool01:04
ubottusubcool: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:04
NewWorldmarck:  netmk gave a better longer command01:04
marckEnkwi: it says it's not marked as executable01:04
Enkwihumm it did the same for me01:04
subcoolescott: scroll up01:04
escottmarck, then mark it as executable01:04
Enkwidon't remember what I did though01:04
marckhow do I do that01:04
netmkchmod +x minecraft.jar01:05
Enkwimarck: proprieties/permission/allow executable01:05
netmkyou guys with your interface.. ;p01:05
Enkwiallow executing file as program*01:05
Enkwi:P01:05
escottsubcool, if its not on the page you can/should resend01:05
Enkwisorry, still kinda bad with terminal :P01:05
marckholy jeez, it worked01:06
karstensragecould someone give me some ideas about what to check or what to look at?01:06
marckall I had to do was mark as executable01:06
Enkwi:D yw01:06
subcooli have a partition with ubuntu, but im not sure which one is is anymore (im kinda close). Installed win7 and lost grub.  escott01:06
marckbahahaha thanks you guys!01:06
karstensragei have a webapp that takes standard GET requests over HTTPS01:06
Enkwihave fun!!!01:06
MKeigher83hey, is anyone there to help with a remote destop issue?01:06
Enkwiwhat kind of issue01:07
karstensrageit seems to choke on GET's that are too long on ubuntu running on a vm01:07
MKeigher83im new to ubuntu (12.10) and i would like to know how to easily setup remote desktop01:07
Enkwiidk, new to linux sooo :P01:07
karstensrageit seems to work fine with the same long GET on FreeBSD running on metal01:07
MKeigher83what the best website for beginners on ubuntu...01:07
MKeigher83??01:07
escottsubcool, so boot to a livecd. use sudo parted -l /dev/sdb to find the ext4 partition with ubuntu. then mount it, bind mount /dev, chroot in and rerun grub install01:07
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escott!grub | subcool01:07
ubottusubcool: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:07
MKeigher83not to do funky thing on it..but for business purposes....01:07
Enkwiwell01:08
escott!manual | MKeigher8301:08
ubottuMKeigher83: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/01:08
EnkwiI have a good site in french though01:08
roastedHello! Any Motion users here? I'm trying to figure out what entry to edit in the config in the event my IP Camera I want to use with Motion is not on port 80. Anybody have any experience with this offhand?01:08
MKeigher83i have a specific question about SNMP too...anyone up for it?01:08
MagicJwilee-nilee: indeed it was bricghtness and lock - thank you01:09
EnkwiSNMP? what is it01:09
wilee-nileeMagicJ, Cool. L)01:09
wilee-nilee;)01:09
spacetigerAlright one more time, I cannot mount my shared partition. I keep getting "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." Help!!01:09
subcoolescott: i tried i think both of those methods..01:09
subcooli know i tried the boot-repair.. that cant detect the grub01:09
MKeigher83how can i have a ubuntu desktop setup to trawl my netowrk and collect snmp data?01:09
subcoolim realding throught the grub2 right now..01:10
wilee-nileesubcool, pastebin the script from bootrepair01:10
linux4uhi guys. I am having mdadm problems01:10
EnkwiMKeigher83: can't help you on that one01:10
escottsubcool, if you can give more detailed messages about what you are seeing we can probably help01:10
linux4uI keep seeing arrays I didnt create. like md126 and md12701:10
MagicJMy users find the panel on the right confusing and do not need it - how do I get rid of it in 12.0401:10
wilee-nileesubcool, or the http of it01:11
netmkMKeigher83: start by install the snmp tools (sudo apt-get install snmp)01:11
escottlinux4u, what does mdadm --status say aobut them01:11
EnkwiI am new to IRC, does it really show your IP adress? isn't that kinda stupid? can you do something with someone's IP or is it harmless?01:11
MKeigher83thanks..will do!01:11
netmkMKeigher83: then you can use snmpwalk for specific hosts and get values from any OID you want.01:11
netmkif you know the community name obviously.01:11
MKeigher83snmpwalk!? easy tutorial available for that?01:12
MKeigher83how do i set a community name..or find it out?01:12
netmkMKeigher83: once you install snmp, just do 'man snmpwalk'01:12
netmkMKeigher83: it's set in the snmp server config, depends on the device01:12
MKeigher83oh ok. how do i review what it has found?01:12
delacEnkwi: depends on the irc server. this server does tell te ip to clients01:13
netmkthere are default community names like private and public, and snmpwalk will poll those by default.01:13
subcooli've tangled with: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - but it cant install boot-repair. The file cant be found. http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 - doesnt not detect the original grub, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 - can not execute01:13
delacEnkwi: but you cant really do anything with the ip other than track the user. and even that if the ip stays same all the time01:14
netmkMKeigher83: well.. you have to know what you're looking for, but snmpwalk can output all OIDs from a given MIB file01:14
netmkso it can be a lot of information..01:14
netmkor you can use snmpget to poll a specific OID01:14
escottsubcool, are you in a livecd01:14
MKeigher83ok...thanks for the tip..will start with that :)01:14
subcoolescott: liveusb01:15
escottsubcool, so start with "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb01:15
SilversongHey guys, I got a quick question. I got Flash on my Firefox for Ubuntu 12.04. When I get the little pop-up window in my flash applet, it asks me for Adobe Flash Player Setting, [Allow] [Deny], that one, I can't click either of the buttons. Anyone know why & how to fix it? :|01:15
escott!paste | subcool01:15
ubottusubcool: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:15
moes!qnx4.x01:15
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subcoolescott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005744/01:17
subcoolthe image should be on one of the first two partitions01:17
Prodigalhas anyone had issues with apt-get for installing cheese?01:17
Boohbahsudo apt-get install cheddar gouda swiss01:18
escottsubcool, try "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ubuntu; ls /media/ubuntu" and tell us what you see01:18
Riccardociao01:18
Prodigalfunny Boohbah - it locks up on an End User agreement and I cant navigate through or past it01:18
roastedAnybody use Motion? Trying to change the port to match my IP Camera but each time I do, everything fails. Not sure if I'm editing the right entry or not...01:20
BoohbahProdigal: did you try pressing 'q' or 'page down' ?01:20
sideup66hello room, i need help with configuring my graphics settings in a debian configuration, debian asked me to ask you folks...01:20
lixsideup66: go ahead01:20
sideup66I recently installed debian squeeze (6.0) and it all went well except when I booted the machine for whatever reason while it was booting up the system jumps to a very high resolution which is hard to read01:21
prophitHey guys - I'm running 12.04 in a VM through VirtualBox. I've started up guacd (part of the guacamole RDP server), and am trying to connect to it via localhost:4822, but my browser never gets a response from the server. Any ideas?01:21
sideup66it continues into the logon screen, I was able to over ride it in my user account by setting the resolution in system>preferences>monitor01:21
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escott!ot | sideup6601:22
ubottusideup66: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:22
subcoolescott: http://pastebin.ca/215380901:22
lixsideup66: ignore ubottu. he's just a stupid BOT01:22
sideup66k i thought i was getting booted around again01:22
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lixescott: just wait for sideup to declae his problem. - will you?01:23
Guest71518Guys where to exactly put neuropolitical font from this link : http://www.unixmen.com/next-generation-another-nice-conky-theme-from-conky-lua-author/01:23
sideup66anyway I had no xorg.conf file in x11 which I read means the system probes at every startup01:23
escottsubcool, verify that ls /media/ubuntu/boot is not empty and then run "sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev; sudo chroot /media/ubuntu; grub-install /dev/sdb"01:23
sideup66so I had x shut down and made it create a config file with Xorg -configure01:24
lixsideup66: you're on debina squeeze, are you?01:24
escottsideup66, ubuntu doesn't even have an xorg.conf in modern releases01:24
lixescot: exact01:24
sideup66yes i am01:24
escottlix, so can i tell him he is ot now?01:24
lixescott: but Debian squeeze does01:25
lix*sigh*01:25
lixubuntu is BASED on Debian, escott. - is it01:25
lixso let people express their needs first. - will you?01:25
sideup66I did paste my output to pastebin01:25
escottlix, and mint is based on ubuntu. but we DONT offer support for those systems in here01:25
sideup66sorry if im off guys01:26
lixbye guys! I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO!!01:26
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sideup66i can tell im not getting help here huh?01:26
sideup66-_-01:26
Enkwiwhat your prob01:27
sideup66I just explained it, i have debian squeeze which incase anyone needs to know is essentially the underpinning of ubuntu01:27
escottsideup66, you should be asking in #debian they will be better able to answer your questions. there are differences between the releases. i can't tell you to use jockey to install drivers because debian doesnt have jockey01:27
eegorsideone, not supported here.01:27
subcoolescott: ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu1/boot$ sudo chroot /media/ubuntu1chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error01:28
sideup66escott: I did...they sent me here01:28
sideup66why am i getting pingponged around and not helped?01:28
escottsubcool, 32bit liveusb?01:28
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escottsideup66, which was inappropriate of them01:28
subcoolescott: uh- idk.. lol01:28
Enkwidood we are just normal people you know, we don't work for you :P01:28
sideup66i know,im just frustrated *sigh*01:29
sideup66as this thing is gonna be a problem if debian goes south of the border on me01:29
Enkwiyeah, I understand it can be frustrating :(01:29
lawrenceHello...need help01:29
lawrencei just installed ubuntu 1201:29
Enkwifor?01:29
Enkwiok01:29
lawrencefrom usb01:29
lawrenceused mylinux live01:30
lawrencebut now01:30
Enkwiand the prob is01:30
subcoolescott: how do i determine that?01:30
escottsideup66, you are welcome to pm lix. he seemed willing to help, but it should be kept off the channel01:30
lawrencei cant boot ubuntu w.o the usb01:30
sideup66hmm ok01:30
Enkwieummç01:30
readmeAnyone know a good S3 client for Linux? I'm using dragondisk but I am not satisfied with it. It doesn't always do what I tell it to, such as delete a directory...01:30
Enkwiwhen you start with the USB, isn't there an icon to install on hard drive?01:30
Guest71518Guys where to exactly put neuropolitical font from this link : http://www.unixmen.com/next-generation-another-nice-conky-theme-from-conky-lua-author/01:30
escottsubcool, im pretty sure that is the issue. you cannot chroot into a 64bit os from a 32bit livecd/liveusb. so download the 64bit install image and create a liveusb from that and it should work01:30
lawrencenot anymore01:31
Enkwiok else go in your boot option in bios01:31
sideup66enki not to be a n00b but i dont know how to pm someone in this stupid thing...01:31
eegorlawrence, try this tool recommended repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair01:31
sideup66lix:are you there?01:31
sideup66!pm01:31
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.01:31
lawrenceeegor: ok..wil try that01:31
eegorlawrence, if it does not get you set post the HTTP to the bootinfo summary01:32
Enkwilawrence: wish you luck01:32
subcoolescott: how do i deteremine which usblive im using- i have a couple. i just grabbed one and ran it.01:32
bluesnowHi, I'm trying to use google app engine on Linux, but I keep getting Could not save into projects file /home/david/.google_appengine_projects.ini: Permission denied01:32
bluesnowI have read and write permissions on /home/david01:32
eegorlawrence, you can get to ubuntu though right.01:32
bluesnowBut the google app engine launcher can't create the file for some reason.01:32
escottsubcool, uname -a if it says i386/i686 its a 32bit if it says x86_64 it is a 64bit (the lib64 in sdb2 indicates that the on hard disk system is 64bit)01:33
subcoolescott: nice- got it. its a 32bit01:33
subcoolbrb- ill see if i have a 64 available..01:34
Enkwiwhat is the command line again to give read/write permission?01:34
escottEnkwi, chmod (uog)+(rw) filename01:34
Enkwithx01:34
aartistHow I can make my ubuntu installation crash-proof? ie.. if something happens, I like to restore the system ..01:35
escottaartist, so you want backup advice?01:36
aartistAlso need to clone the installation on another machine.01:36
aartistescott: yeh.. not just data, but for software I have installed.01:36
Guest71518How to install new FONT01:36
readmeRAID01:36
escott!clone | aartist01:36
ubottuaartist: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate01:36
escott!backup | aartist (although this is targeted more at user data)01:36
ubottuaartist (although this is targeted more at user data): There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning01:36
aartist!cloning01:38
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate01:38
aartist!automate01:38
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning01:38
escott!askthebot | aartist01:38
ubottuaartist: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".01:38
aartistescott: Thanks.. that was a good beiginning.. I will explore.01:39
Guest71518Jesus Christ almighty is there anyone who can help me here01:39
_pg_So botched some updates while some tc containers were mounted and now there's a lot of erros about /tmp. Can I safely erase the contents of /tmp?01:39
Enkwiwhat do you need guest?01:40
escott_pg_, usually /tmp is cleared on reboot01:40
Guest71518where to exactly put neuropolitical font from this link : http://www.unixmen.com/next-generation-another-nice-conky-theme-from-conky-lua-author/01:40
Guest71518@Enkwi01:40
Enkwioh sorry idk a whole lot about font01:40
Guest71518ahh nvm at least you responded01:41
Enkwiyou googled it?? (I guess you did but you know... making sure)01:41
_pg_How can I fix these broken updates? Failed to run update manager dust upgrade as root. Unable to copy users xauth file01:41
Guest71518Yea... thats what pisses me off01:41
escottGuest71518, there are lots of fonts in apt so you should check there first, but for other fonts putting them in ~/.fonts should be enough for most applications01:41
Enkwilook for smting like font directiry linux ?01:41
_pg_Ubuntu software update brings up the diet upgrade prompt and won't run it01:41
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Guest71518Ill try that escott01:42
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Enkwiescott is the man01:42
_pg_Im getting a lot of read only file system errors. For example updating or running dog configure a01:43
_pg_Dkpg01:43
escott_pg_, mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint01:44
_pg_I failed updates and now I cant update. Permissions problems01:44
_pg_escott: All one line?01:44
arooni-mobilehi folks; just swapped the hard drive in my lenovo t420 under warranty ; and i ran the smartmontools on the new drive with these results for the long test:  https://gist.github.com/2782166 ... however the DISK UTILITY says pending sector count: 20.  ... not sure if there is a conflict here or if i should be concerned...01:44
escott_pg_, if you have a failed apt install you should try apt-get -f upgrade01:45
_pg_escott: I don't understand how to run that command in terminal. The syntax doesn't work.01:45
_pg_Oh ok01:45
escott_pg_, you have to change /mountpoint to be the correct mountpoint01:46
_pg_escott: Dkpg was inturrepted01:46
Guest71518escott Im using lubuntu 12.04 (tried to ask on their channel but they are afk)  and tbh even though I check show hidden files I can see /. fonts folder ... Im doing something wrong?01:46
escottGuest71518, you may have to create the folder, but i think its the right name01:47
_pg_escott: What is the correct mountpoint01:47
escott_pg_, im not familiar with some of this software (dog and such) so i'm not entirely clear on what your problem is. if your "/" is mounted read-only I would start by running fsck on the device, and then if that is clean sudo mount -o remount,rw /01:48
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_pg_escott: Typo. Dpkg wont run01:48
escott_pg_, what does dpkg say when you try to run it?01:49
_pg_escott: I botched an update. I dont know how. Some tc containers were mounted. Now I have problems. I cant run updates. Or mount tc containers. Lots of read only errors01:49
escott_pg_, i dont know what a tc container is01:50
_pg_Dpkg was interrupted.01:50
_pg_Truecrypt01:50
_pg_Yu must manually run sudo dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem01:50
escott_pg_, sounds like a basic filesystem corruption problem which you need to fix first with fsck01:50
_pg_I have to boot externally to fix that right?01:51
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lawrenceeegor: the boot repair did work! thanks!01:52
escott_pg_, you should not run fsck on a read-write mounted system. you should be able to safely run it on a readonly fs. check "mount" to see if things are mounted read-only or rw01:52
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_pg_From a USB is easier?01:53
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escott_pg_, with your truecrypt i dont know what will be easier01:54
_pg_They were just for files. Not anything system related.01:55
escott_pg_, so what happens why you try to run dpkg?01:56
_pg_It can't run. Read only area01:56
escott_pg_, so you should run fsck on the device containing your / partition and then remount /. use "mount" to identify what the correct device is01:57
_pg_Ok01:57
_pg_Super lock is invalid01:57
_pg_Superblock is invalid01:57
_pg_Fsck is expecting an ext2 fs. Is ext4 ok?01:58
_pg_I ran verify from disk utility from external booted USB and it passed ok.01:58
escott_pg_, thats not good. ext* should have a backup superblock and there is a way to specify that fsck should use the backup superblock01:58
_pg_Ok ill try it01:58
escott_pg_, was the "fsck is expecting an ext2 is ext4 ok?" a question for me?01:58
_pg_Yes01:59
_pg_The fsck help for backup Superblock is talking about ext2.01:59
_pg_But my drive is ext401:59
_pg_Is that ok?01:59
escott_pg_, fsck can't identify what kind of ext it is because the superblock is corrupted. so tell it to use the backup and it should identify that it is ext4 and then use the journal02:00
escott_pg_, http://www.admon.org/using-alternative-superblock-to-check-ext3/02:00
amh345when running service --status-all what is the difference between the "+,-,?" ?02:00
_pg_Where are my alternate superblocks?02:02
escott_pg_, try the values in that link 8193 32768 9830402:03
_pg_Fsck says shit is clean. But didn't fix anything02:05
_pg_Serious rage02:05
lee_中文的聊天室怎么进02:05
_pg_The Superblock thing is because I was trying to repair dev sda but the ubuntu is on dev sda502:05
IdleOne!language | _pg_02:05
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bazhanglee_,#ubuntu-cn02:06
_pg_#ubuntudespair02:06
jimmyjohnhowdy all!\02:08
Boohbahhello jimmyjohn02:09
jimmyjohnI was just wondering about the Xorg high CPU usage issue that I'm seeing a lot in Gnome when scrolling and moving windows around.  I at first thought it was an issue specific to my machine, but I'm seeing it pretty much everywhere I turn.  In one case, I was using a machine with a Radeon 6450, and the packaged radeon driver was in sue, but it seemed like the GPU still didin't handle much of the Gnome load.02:10
jimmyjohnIs this something that most people are just kind of grinning and bearing, or does some magic combination of decreased visual performance and "just the right driver" actually elevate the issue?02:11
jimmyjohns/elevate/illeviate/02:12
jimmyjohnyou know what, I just can't spell, I need to find a new mode of communication =|02:13
checkm8hi can anyone assist me with troubleshooting my laptop?02:13
lixjimmyjohn: try morse-codes02:13
lixcheckm8: shoot02:13
checkm8lix: my internal subwoofer is not working02:13
checkm8lix: is there anything I can do?02:14
escottjimmyjohn, packaged? meaning not fglrx02:14
lixcheckm8: checked pulseaudio sttings?02:14
lixcheckm8: or alsamixer in the command line?02:14
_pg_escott: I think its working.02:14
checkm8lix: I went into the "sound settings" in ubuntu 12.04 and subwoofer is grayed out02:14
matlockso basically I'd like an audible event when i plug in a usb device02:15
jimmyjohnescott: the driver was labeled "radeon", by packaged I mean to say it came with the OS, as opposed to being obtained from the manufacturer or other thrid party02:15
lixcheckm8: what notbook model?02:15
checkm8lix: ASUS G73SW-XN202:15
matlockyea02:15
bazhangmatlock, on squeeze?02:15
matlocki got an asus m70 that linux doesn't like my subwoofer either02:15
escottjimmyjohn, you could try fglrx it might be better02:16
checkm8I dont want to go back to windoze ><02:16
matlockbazhang, yes I understand that this is an ubuntu channel but this type of thing shouldn't be distro specific02:16
bazhangmatlock, keep the posts in #debian please02:16
matlockand if you want i can open my ubuntu vm to work in there02:16
racesIs this the right place to ask about some issues setting a dual screen with an Nvidia card in ubuntu 12.04?02:17
matlockraces, what exactly is the issue?02:17
bazhangraces, with xrandr?02:17
racesone of the screen is totally white?02:17
racesI can move my mouse to the other screen but I cannot move apps windows there02:18
escottraces, let us know what driver you are using, nouveau or the nvidia proprietary drivers (installed through jockey)02:18
matlocksounds like you have two separate x sessions going on02:18
lixcheckm8: pls check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175110702:18
subcoolescott: ok, back.. running into a small problem..02:18
racesescott: I am using Nvidia version 295.3302:19
checkm8lix: I am reading it now I will get back to you and keep an eye on the channel02:19
escottraces, two possibilities (1) separate X servers or some kind of xinerama issue (2) no opengl on the second screen. when you try to move the windows do they just disappear on the other screen or is there some kind of boundary?02:19
escottsubcool, ok02:19
lixcheckm8: sure. and maybe read this too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound02:19
checkm8lix: thank you so much im reading now02:20
racesescott: there is like boundary... Thats exactly the problem.. the other monitor remains white and even the mouse pointer is a "X" instead of a regular arrow02:20
lixcheckm8: you are welcome. just trying to help02:20
jimmyjohnescott, thanks for the advice.  I haven't quite picked out a new desktop for this situation yet, but if I end up with an ATI card I'll try the fglrx drivers.02:20
lixcheckm8: am not familiar with the problem myself. - am just trying to find a solution for you to assist02:21
_pg_escott: Thanks so much. Sorry I lost my cool02:21
fslima0I've upgraded ubuntu to 12.04, and the fan is noiser than normal02:21
fslima0on my netbook02:21
fslima0help?02:21
escott_pg_, but working now?02:22
lixcheckm8: maybe also follow this (unsolved) thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198621402:22
lixfslima0: what does "top"say?02:22
racesescott: maybe you could have a better understanding if you read this post that I posted in Ubuntu Forums but nobody has replied so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198636502:22
lixfslima0 (in the command line)02:23
_pg_escott: Yeah. It is.02:23
escottraces, truth is i dont know much about nvidia02:23
fslima0let me see02:23
subcoolescott: my mouse wont let me cop/paste it..02:23
fslima0i know it's not the cpu scaling thing on full throttle02:23
racesok escott, thank you very much for trying to help...02:23
checkm8lix: that is my post, and unfortunately that guy was so rude im afraid to post :X02:23
fslima0because cpu is on its slowest frequency02:23
lixfslima0: are you familiar with "top"? - you can see what process is using the CPU and system most...02:24
racesescott: Do you know someone that I could reach to who has some experience with this kind of issues?02:24
escottraces, im a little puzzled by the existence of two Devices in the xorg.conf, but its been so long since ive looked at one. you should just ask the channel and provide whatever details you can02:24
fslima0lix: i know... does not seem to be cpu related02:24
_pg_escott: Seriously thou you gave me just enough to get it it fixed thank you.02:24
StramithHello for all02:24
lixcheckm8: am sorry for that. rude guys in a forum is a nogo...02:24
lixfslima0: I would say so. usually the fan cools the CPU02:25
escott_pg_, its not a hard problem. if you ever get dropped to a read-only root run fsck02:25
racesescott: The Channel? which channel? ubuntu Channel? or there is a Nvidia channel that I have missed it?02:25
checkm8lix: its okay you have been more than helpful so far :) thank you for your effort. I still am browsing the forums for a solution, if i come by one I will post on the forum02:25
escottraces, this channel02:25
subcoolescott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/100579602:25
alusionHello ubuntu I was wondering what were some of the better twitter clients for ubuntu linux02:25
_pg_escott: Everything is easy when you know how.02:25
racesescott: Great... Thanks02:25
checkm8lix: both of which you posted seem to not work. I have tried following an additional thread posted but it fails as well. It tells me to update my daemon.conf02:25
lixcheckm8: do so, please. and please ignore "rude" posts. these people are useless...02:25
Random832alusion: what exactly does a twitter client do?02:25
escottsubcool, once you chroot in you run "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" you do NOT specify a partition number so NOT sdb102:26
_pg_escott: Could I have done tht from a TTY terminal ? Or no since im booted to the disk I need to unmount?02:26
alusionRandom832, it is supposed to add more functionality and easier management for trending feeds and tweets02:26
lixcheckm8: daemon.conf ??? WTF!02:26
lixcheckm8: what for?02:26
escott_pg_, if / is mounted read-only is not going to harm the disk to run fsck on it, but you should not run fsck when it is mounted read-write02:26
lixcheckm8: hangon02:27
_pg_escott: And I cant be booted to it and make it read only correct?02:27
subcoolescott: ok- now just reboot? is there a way to test it?02:27
checkm8lix: the full path is /etc/pulse/daemon.conf02:27
escott_pg_, you can always try to remount read-only, but when fully booted thats not likely to work (all those applications with open filehandles will be VERY unhappy)02:27
escottsubcool, if grub-install ran without error then you should be ok02:28
lixcheckm9: is it possible, you need a patch for alsa? http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/451594-asus-rog-g73-ubuntu-6.html02:28
subcoolok- thanks a lot02:28
_pg_escott: I figured. External USB boot was ok. Thanks so much.02:28
xanguaalusion: ubuntu comes with gwibber  if you want only twitter, hotot is a good one02:28
subcoolescott: thanks a lot- giving it a whirl now..02:29
escottsubcool, drop back in if it doesnt work02:29
checkm8lix: i almost missed your post I will try that now02:29
alusionxangua, what's the difference between the two?02:29
lixcheckm8: check with alsa first, before messing around with pulseaudio, I would say ...02:30
checkm8lix: i dont even know the difference im such a noob to ubuntu lol02:30
xanguaalusion: that one is for multiple social networkd and the other just for twitter¿02:30
Harriswhat is an ubuntu equivialent to imovie02:31
lixcheckm8: me too. - hahha. just trying to asssist02:31
checkm8lix: how do i apply the patch? it seems as if though its a .c file02:31
xanguaHarris: aaah the movie player¿02:31
lixcheckm8: gimme a sec02:32
blackmatrix_nyhello folks...what's the best remote terminal app for ubuntu to ubuntu...ultravnc ?02:32
Harrisxangua,  what is the best movie maker in ubuntu02:32
checkm8blackmatrix_ny - have you tried ssh?02:32
blackmatrix_nycheckm8, I want a gui02:33
escottblackmatrix_ny, ssh -X will allow you to start gui applications by name02:33
lixcheckm8: watch out for tjis guy. he's into ubuntu audio stuff ... https://launchpad.net/~diwic02:33
xanguaHarris: if you want a  movie editor then say that, not imovie iglass ieye o_O02:33
alusionVery nice it comes for ubuntu, thank you xangua02:33
lixcheckm8: let me read his threads...02:33
alusionchrome*02:33
fslima0lix:02:33
xanguaHarris: plenty of them openshot, pitivi, cinelerra02:33
Harrisxangua, what is the best02:34
checkm8lix: thank you.. im also trying to find out how to patch this thing02:34
escottcheckm8, generally it would be patch -i /path/to/patchfile from within the project build directory02:34
lixcheckm8: because this thread is an older one http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg40884.html02:35
dillonnice finally got the burn effect to work when i open windows02:35
xanguabest best best....try and find out what is the best fot Your people! Harris02:35
lixcheckm8: so it should have been included already02:35
Harrisxangua, is kdenlive good02:35
lixcheckm8: what *buntu version are you running?02:35
lixfslima0: shoot02:35
lixfslima0: whats the matter?02:35
checkm8lix: i am running 12.0402:35
lixcheckm8: roger02:36
fslima0lix: fan is still noise on ubuntu 12.04 :(02:36
luis_i love ubu02:36
aldwinaldwinhello, after reboot I don't get into the GUI anymore. Last thing I did was trying to not start my Sybase server with command : update-rc -f sybase remove.02:36
Omen_20hi, i'm having issues with my laptop going to standby. I have a ASUS U56E and when it goes to standby the screen goes black but is still on. From there I can never get back and have to hold down the power button.02:38
lixfslima0: and what did "top" say?02:38
lixcheckm8: it seems to be a kernel issue. I guess it has been included into 3.202:38
lixchecm8: ... at least02:38
lixcheckm8: but I have to check first...02:38
checkm8lix: so what are the next steps? can I be of assistance anyhow? I do not know how to apply this patch.02:39
Azelphur_I keep randomly getting an issue with my keyboard and mouse, i can click on buttons, but cant focus any editboxes and thus cant type. i have to continually reboot to solve this. any ideas?02:39
lixcheckm8: am not a kernel hacker, am sorry. divic is not online now, so try to contact him by jabber or mail: "https://launchpad.net/~diwic"02:41
lixchckm8: he probably knows best02:41
aldwinaldwinOmen 20: I read something that the Swap must be big enough to hold a copy of your RAM, just an idea02:41
lixcheckm8: but hangon: you say the subwoofer is "greyed out"?02:41
lixfslima0: are you with me?02:42
checkm8lix: yes it is grayed out02:42
lixcheckm8: which means, it is "recognised"02:42
escottaldwinaldwin, Omen_20 you can't suspend if your swap is smaller than the RAM used by your processes. so that motivates a 1xRAM rule for many people02:42
lixcheckm8: hangon02:42
escottaldwinaldwin, Omen_20, rather hibernate as opposed to suspend02:42
Omen_20aldwinaldwin, escott  k. I had read that for hibernate but wasn't sure about suspend. I still need to try that.02:43
lixcheckm8: in alsamixer?02:43
checkm8lix: this is under the volume speaker icon and under "Sound Settings..."02:43
lixcheckm8: or what "app"?02:43
lixcheckm8: oh, I see. pulseaudio02:43
aldwinaldwinescott, Omen20, ok02:44
blackmatrix_nyhello folks...sorry got disconnected...I was looking for suggestions for a good remote terminal app02:44
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escottblackmatrix_ny, what do you want that ssh doesn't provide?02:44
lixcheckm8: can you check with alsamixer in the command line please?02:44
aldwinaldwinescott, Omen_20 : stupid question ... i am stuck in console after reboot, how do I start GUI?02:44
checkm8lix: what is the command to type in terminal02:44
lixalsamixer02:44
escottaldwinaldwin, sudo service lightdm (re)start02:45
lixcheckm8: alsamixer02:45
piihbCan someone help me with Thunderbird? I set it up for my school email account but it won't connect. It's not that difficult >.<02:45
aldwinaldwinescott, ok,i'll try02:45
lixpiib: what connection? IMAP? POP?02:45
checkm8I see02:45
piihbIMAP02:45
lixpiihb: do you have the configuration settings of your school at hand?02:46
blackmatrix_nyescott, you don't mean the ssh shell right ? or is there another program called ssh that provides a GUI02:46
piihbI'm looking at all my school's settings and stuff, but it keeps telling me my username/password combo is wrong.02:46
lixpiihb: IMAP is on port 99302:46
checkm8lix: I see "<bass speaker>" as one of the options and i turned it up all the way02:46
piihbI have that, lix02:46
piihband port 465 for my outgoing02:46
lixcheckm8: and? working now?02:46
lixpiihb: so incoming is working?02:47
escottpiihb, have you tried different settings in the IMAP password method02:47
mickelrunning 12.04 trying to launch wow.exe and launcher.exe wine seems to crash after trying to click from dolphin on the executable and dragging the .exe to the desktop and clicking on it doesnt work either02:47
mickelworld of warcraft02:47
piihblix and escott: Neither's working. Like I said, it recognizes the ports are right, but it keeps telling me my username/password combo is wrong.02:47
blackmatrix_nyescott, SSL/SSH VNC Viewer on ubuntu software center....Im going to give it a test ride...thanks for the suggestion02:48
escottpiihb, for the username are you including the @university.edu or not?02:48
piihbyeah02:48
lixpiihb: sometimes proprietary mailservers use \@hostname02:48
escottpiihb, try without02:48
checkm8lix: yes it is working!!02:48
checkm8lix: thank you so much!!02:48
lixpiihb: are you sure you got the good credentials02:48
lixcheckm8: am very happy now!!02:48
checkm8lix: unfortunately its not playing any bass though its just playing the highs ill work on it02:48
lixcheckm8: so it has been included into the latest kernel. you dont need to check on that02:49
blackmatrix_nybtw, i just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and I don't really like the Gnome...are there themes that look more or less like Gnome 2 ?02:49
piihbYes, lix.02:49
serdotlinhi, try to compile kernel 3.4 here on my netbook. Should i include IrDA (infrared) and NFC subsystem support in config?02:49
checkm8okay im going to write a guide on the forum02:49
lixcheckm8: just check on alsamixer settinggs02:49
checkm8lix: ill update my post02:49
lixcheckm8: yes please. and thanks!02:49
piihbescott: so for email address, just try the account without @domain02:49
escottblackmatrix_ny, you can install gnome-panel02:49
escottpiihb, yes02:50
lixpiihb: did you try just username and/or full email address?02:50
lixpiihb: exact02:50
lixpiihb: try all02:50
piihbI keep getting the message 'The Kerberos/G...." it went away again02:51
sjd_zeus.02:51
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^MikeHow can I tell what graphics driver my machine is using?02:51
escott^Mike, glxinfo has a few lines (like the renderer) which can help, but you can also just muddle through the Xorg.0.log in /var/log02:52
aldwinaldwinStarting LightDM Display managertc/default/speech-dispatcherar background program processing deamon [fail] ???02:52
dr_willis^Mike:  you can grep the x logs for the word 'driver' or 'Driver' also02:52
OerHeks ^Mike terminal:   jockey-text -l02:53
checkm8lix: I am still trying to route only the bass to the subwoofer I do not see it in alsamixer. Where would it be? Also, when i turn down the volume, the sound from the subwoofer stays the same volume.02:53
lixfslima0: are you with me?02:53
blackmatrix_nyescott, for the gnome theme that looks like gnome2 right ?02:53
lixcheckm8: alsamixer can be run with more options. - try that02:53
escottblackmatrix_ny, as i understand it, it is a forward ported version of gnome-panel minus all the stuff that couldnt get forward ported02:54
Harrisin the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue02:54
blackmatrix_nyescott, cool...thanks mate02:54
tatshi, i'm trying to install ubuntu alternate and I got the following error: "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted..." When I retry it still doesn't work. It's weird because it booted from the CD and asked me my language + keyboard but now it can't boot from the CD.02:55
tatsany idea?02:55
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escotttats, did you check the md5sum?02:55
blackmatrix_nyescott, so a ssl/ssh vnc server has to run on the machine Im trying to connect ?02:55
AndChat|565409which version would someone recommend to use on an acer aspire netbook 12.04 0r 11.02:56
tatsescott: no02:56
piihblix and escott: I keep getting a message that says something about a ticket not being accepted.02:56
escottblackmatrix_ny, i've never used vnc, but presumably02:56
Harrisin the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change the icon color to blue02:56
escottpiihb, kerberos ticket, its part of the authentication process02:56
piihbescott: Does that help figuring out what's wrong :/02:57
Guest76372Thanks for helping with grub, it worked. But stupid help guides f" me. That grub 4 DOS killed me. Somehow my wifi is disabled02:57
Harrisanybody have the answers02:57
tatsescott: there was no md5sum indicated, I downloaded it from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads02:58
escottblackmatrix_ny, vnc is different from ssh in that you run vnc with the session already started so the desktop already exists. so you might run a root vnc server and then login creating the session. ssh you just open the terminal and can open arbitrary windows outside of a gui session02:58
escotttats, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes02:58
OerHeks!hashes02:58
ubottuSee http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/12.04/MD5SUMS for the md5sums of the latest Ubuntu release02:58
tatsescott: shit, internal server error at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes02:59
escotttats try the mirror.anl link ^02:59
Harrisescott,  check pm02:59
HarrisOerHeks,  check pm02:59
OerHeks!pm | harris02:59
ubottuharris: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.03:00
Harrisxangua, check pm03:00
Harriscan i use a pm03:00
bazhangHarris, please dont03:00
xanguaHarris: you can try but i won't see, recieve any pm03:01
Harrisbazhang,  then can you help me03:01
bazhangHarris, PMing multiple users for help is not the way to go03:01
bazhangHarris, ask here, and if someone knows they will answer. be patient.03:02
Harrisbazhang,  in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue03:02
bazhangHarris, I dont use that launcher, so cannot help, sorry03:02
dr_willistry a differnt theme.03:03
tatsescott: the md5 corresponds03:03
Harrisin the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue03:03
escotttats, im not sure. so you got a normal boot the first time with the install disk, but subsequent boots dont work. are these cold or warm boots?03:04
blackmatrix_nyescott, ok...thanks03:05
Harrisin the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue03:05
AuzBulHello03:07
AuzBulCan Somone help me get a FloodBot?03:07
tatsescott: no. it actually boots from the cd (cold boot) and asks for my language + keyboard, but then it gets to the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" part and it fails03:07
piihbescott: What does it mean "make sure you are connected to the Kerbos realm" ?03:07
escottpiihb, never really understood kerberos that well03:08
ejoHarris: try changing your display theme -- it's under System Settings > Appearance03:09
escotttats, the standard thing to check is if the cd will boot on another system03:10
tatsescott: another system? you mean, eg. booting from a CD with another version of linux?03:11
escotttats, no a different computer to see if the cd is working or not03:11
tatsescott: ok i see03:11
tatswell i'll have to reboot this computer then03:11
tatsi'll be back03:11
escotttats, but if you have a known good cd thats a good thing to use as well03:12
AndChat|565409Yes03:14
MagicJhow do I stop 12.04 from bring the panel into view when I move the cursor to the left of the screen?03:14
dr_willisthere are auto hide/neverhide/ options for that panel.  i set mine to  never hide03:15
dr_willisccsm tool has settings for it.  therre may be other place for the setting also.  like in 'myunity' magicj03:16
lixMagicJ: System > Appearance > Behaviour > "Auto hide Launcher"03:17
MagicJlix:  ty03:18
lixMagicJ: you're welcome!03:18
matlockalright, how do i make ubuntu play a sound when i plug in a usb stick03:19
escottmatlock, you could try and establish a udev rule03:19
piihbAnyone use PlayOnLinux?03:20
polygonzhello unbutu03:20
matlockwould that work with any usb device or is it dev specific?03:20
lixpolygonz: Hello world03:20
polygonzyou are world?03:20
DarkAceZpolygonz, that's all you have to say to get attention?03:21
Harrisin the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue03:21
matlockpiihb, i remember using playon linux is that like a streaming service for your smartphone?03:21
polygonzthis only look like 60 people not whole world03:21
DarkAceZBecause usually to get anyone to notice me around here I have to do something... Uncalled for.03:21
matlockoh nvm that was another service03:22
MagicJhas remastersys gone in 12.04 - where do I find it now?03:22
polygonzhow can you uncall something?03:22
sun_devilAnyone know of a simple accounting program similar to quickens but is open-source?03:22
polygonzif you call someone up you have to travel back in time for it not to happen03:22
escottsun_devil, gnucash03:22
dr_willisHarris:  several times its been said..  to try differnt themes.03:22
Harrisdr_willis,  then how do i do it03:23
sherp89I need help with ubunut server03:23
sun_devilescott: from sourceforge?03:23
bazhangsherp89, #ubuntu-server03:23
polygonzDarkAceZ told me u all suck ballz only worse03:23
dr_willisMyUnity has theme settings Harris03:23
piihbmatlock: Someone recently told me it was used to play games that work on Windows - similar to WINE, but built for games.03:23
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escottsun_devil, there are a half dozen accounting programs in apt03:23
DarkAceZpolygonz, wat03:23
bazhangpolygonz, stop that03:23
polygonzwat03:23
sherp89just installed, no gui, ok i will get one... no internet, but on the network fine03:24
matlocki see, i've looked it up now, was mistaking it for another program piihb03:24
sun_devilI was getting tired of paying for them03:24
escottpiihb, IIRC it is wine but with improved directx support03:24
Harristerminal codes to download please dr_willis03:24
polygonz:{03:24
dr_willisharris use gthe package manager tool to seqarch for and install 'myunity'  theres numerous themes in the repos to install and the webupd8 site has a collection of nice themes also03:25
sun_devilescott: Do you know of any others?03:25
dr_willisharris and guides on themes in unity03:25
polygonzhow do i leave here?03:25
escottsun_devil, look through apt. kmymoney? or is it kwallet03:25
DarkAceZlol03:25
FyreFoXhi where can I find the latest ppa of chromium? chromium-daily seems to have stopped at 1803:25
sun_devilescott: ok, thanks03:25
jazzkovskyThis might be a stupid question, but I can't find the solution anywhere. I'm trying to copy a .so file, but lucid lynx doesn't create a copy, but creates a (broken) link instead. What am I doing wrong?03:25
polygonzthe end button on my keyboard aint working :( not ending chat :(03:26
jribjazzkovsky: why do you want to do this/03:26
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OerHeksFyreFoX, there is no chromium ppa, just wait for chromium 1903:28
eeegorFyreFoX, the web?03:28
dbummyDoes anyone know how to turn off mutliple virtual screens (tty1-tty6) in Ubuntu Server 12.04?  (not using screen... right after I boot alt-left(and right) bring me other login screens03:28
FyreFoXOerHeks: ah will 19 be released as an update by ubuntu?03:28
escottdbummy, remove /etc/init/tty*.conf03:28
sherp89what is the best desktop for ubuntu server?03:28
FyreFoXeeegor: I've been lookingm but my google fu isnt as good as I thought it was :(03:29
dbummyescott: Thanks!03:29
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Harrisdr_willis,  I LIKE THE BACKGROUND OF THE LAUNCHER JUST NOT THOSE APP ICONS I ONLY WANT THOSE CHANGED03:29
OerHeksFyreFoX, yes, i have no time when.03:29
eeegorFyreFoX, I don't use chromium, I would think the daily would have at least the equal to the stable or daily03:29
FyreFoXOerHeks: excellent. Thanks for your help03:30
dr_willisHarris:  again..  themyunity and other tools have an icon theme setting....03:30
jazzkovskyjrib, I need to copy and rename my  libBulletDynamics.so.2.75 with it pointing at the 2.77 version I have installed. Trying to install free orion on lucid lynx :)03:30
OerHekseeegor those PPa are only for oneiric03:30
dr_willisi use the faranza icon theme03:30
dbummyescott: I'm assuming I should leave tty1.conf?03:30
FyreFoXeeegor: it used to be current but then it stagnated and now is stuck on 18 since I moved to precise03:30
eeegorOerHeks, did not say to use them.03:30
aldwinaldwinescot,  service lightdm (re)start => no joy  ...  is there somewhere a logfile to check?03:30
escottdbummy, i would think so03:31
escottaldwinaldwin, you could also try startx. logs would be in /var/log03:31
aldwinaldwinescott, ok, will check it03:31
sun_devilkmymoney says works with KDE03:33
dr_willismany kde apps start with 'k' ;)03:33
dr_willissort of an old standard..  not as common these days03:34
dr_willisyou should be able to run most all kde apps on gnome03:35
eeegorkool03:37
abhijitruckshi03:38
lixhi03:38
eeegorFyreFoX, always look if the PPA actually supports your release, for chomium it would not really matter but, important with other packages in PPA's.03:39
eeegor*chromium03:39
tatsi can't remember the nick of who was helping me ... anyhow, I'm still unable to properly mount my Ubuntu alternate cd-rom03:40
tatsi tried it on another system and it works fine03:40
tatsbut on this computer it boots but when I try to install i run into problems03:41
tatstwo kinds of problems03:41
tatsin the first kind of problem it asks me my language + keyboard but it then fails to mount the CD-ROM03:42
tatsthe second kind of problems is that sometimes it won't even start the install process03:42
tatsthere's a green-over-black msg at the top of the screen saying "Error xxxx reading sector 64" and a dialog "Boot loader: /install/vmlinuz: file not found"03:43
tatsit's weird03:44
luochengsonghi03:44
dr_williserror  reading sounds like a bad/dirty disk or drive03:44
alusionHey anyone attending Blackhat USA 2012?03:45
jazzkovskyjrib: I need to copy and rename my  libBulletDynamics.so.2.75 with it pointing at the 2.77 version I have installed. Trying to install free orion on lucid lynx :)03:45
luochengsonggood luck03:45
tatsdr_willis: bad disk = do you mean hard drive or cd-rom? or it could be the drive?03:46
dr_willisjazzkovsky:  normally there would be a link fromlibBulletDynamics.so to the right  file03:46
dr_willistats:  or a combo of the 203:46
tatsfuck03:46
tatshow can i check?03:46
IdleOne!language | tats03:46
ubottutats: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:46
dr_willistats:  it says reading erorr - sounds like the optical drive03:46
dr_willisi aalways use usb these days03:46
bazhang!ot | alusion03:47
ubottualusion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:47
DarkAceZ!help03:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:47
tatsdr_willis: it might well be so... had similar problems (aka weirdness) trying to boot with a livecd03:47
dr_willisdisks burnt in one pc/drive may have issues being read in others..  not seen that much latelt - but years ago it  was not  uncommon03:47
alusionI was just wondering lol.03:47
alusionOH03:47
DarkAceZ!patience03:47
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:47
alusionWrong channel, sorry! LOL03:47
lixubottu: get lost03:48
bazhangDarkAceZ, /msg ubottu03:48
DarkAceZAh.03:48
jazzkovskydr_willis: yes, but specifically not so in freeorion.03:48
DarkAceZwat03:48
DarkAceZDoesn't work.03:48
tatsdr_willis: trying to run a CD on an old PC laptop burned on a Mac ... might explain it03:48
DarkAceZOh03:48
tatsdr_willis: usb is more stable?03:48
bazhangDarkAceZ, sure it does. dont spam the channel with that03:48
dr_willisinstalling from a usb flash is faster in most cases03:48
DarkAceZbazhang, got it working.03:49
tatsdr_willis: ok, will give it a try03:50
tatsthanks dr_willis03:50
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DarkAceZbazhang, also, I think you meant /query03:51
Logan_DarkAceZ: He meant /msg ubottu <command>.03:52
Logan_DarkAceZ: /query just opens a separate tab in which you can /msg ubottu.03:52
DarkAceZYou don't have to use /msg then.03:53
bazhang!ot | DarkAceZ03:53
ubottuDarkAceZ: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:53
dr_willisin the query window its all /msg by ddefault03:53
dr_willissee your irc client docs for details (tm)03:54
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Prodigali keep getting a message that i have a package manager running - but i cant find it...how do i see what processes ARE running?03:56
bazhangProdigal, open a terminal, type top03:56
lixProdigal: ps aux?03:56
IBMHPGOOGLEIs it an other program to access ext4 from Windows I can only find for ext2 and ext3 can someone please help03:57
Prodigalwhat is whiptail?03:58
sandydIBMHPGOOGLE: There is none.03:58
Tensotuhello all. how do I change keyboard layout on server edition?03:59
CnythnkTensotu, if i'm not wrong you do it by: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup04:00
IBMHPGOOGLESandyd: how come will they do one in the future04:00
zhenghhhello. This is for checking04:00
zhenghhIRC is used for what?04:01
amh345when i ssh into my server…  how can i set an idle time limit on that session?04:02
sandydIBMHPGOOGLE: Not Likely.04:04
TensotuCnythnk that will run command line?04:07
ImperialDroidI cannot get LAMP to install properly. I think it is because I tried to uninstall it. How can I uninstall it completely so I can do a full reinstall?04:09
dr_willis! purge04:09
ubottuTo purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P04:09
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dr_willispurge = remove competly04:09
zykotick9ImperialDroid: fyi there is no lamp package in ubuntu, so how are you actually installing it?  there is a tasksel task for lamp (but that shouldn't be used for uninstalling/purging)04:10
LiquidEdgeHi all!  Trying to install Handbrake and I get this error.04:10
LiquidEdgeError: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnotify1 (>= 0.4.5)04:10
zykotick9LiquidEdge: (honestly) i'd try a different ppa for handbrake (man i wish handbrake was totally free software and could be in everyone's repositories)04:12
LiquidEdgezykotick9, Do you have one you can recommend?04:13
dr_willis!info  handbrake04:13
ubottuPackage handbrake does not exist in precise04:13
zykotick9LiquidEdge: no sorry (don't run ubuntu)04:13
dr_willisinstalled handbrake here the other day 12.04 with no issues04:13
LiquidEdgedr_willis, Which ppa did you use?04:13
zykotick9dr_willis: the package names "should" be handbrake-gtk and handbrake-cli ;)04:13
dr_willisno idea LiquidEdge04:13
LiquidEdgeI tried the gtk one and that's when I got that error.04:14
LiquidEdgeI didn't use a ppa, came straight from the deb file04:14
ImperialDroidzykotick9, I used the tasksel to install04:14
dr_willisi just rcall being annoyed that they still use the name 'ghb' for  the actual binary ;)  this is 2012  we can handle descripttive names..04:14
zykotick9LiquidEdge: that's your issue then.  the deb file i mean - dpkg doesn't satify dependencies04:14
dr_willisLiquidEdge:  you installed the  .deb how exactly?04:14
LiquidEdgeI dunno.  I double clicked on it and it opened the software center then I got that message.04:15
dr_willisgdebi foo.deb    will install all needed deps. ;)04:15
LiquidEdgeBecause the ppa didn't work, either.04:15
LiquidEdgeAnd #handbrake seems to only people in there if they're willing to idle.04:15
zykotick9U.S.C. might satify dependencies?  i wouldn't know ;)04:15
dr_willisseems i used the stebbins ppa for handbrake04:16
david-yenorUbuntu 12.04 is awesome04:16
LiquidEdgeI'm getting 404 on the stebbins ppa04:16
ImperialDroiddavid-yenor, I agree04:16
zykotick9dr_willis: i know for a fact there is more then one ppa for handbrake, and i know some have issues04:16
dr_willisLiquidEdge:  worked for me like 3 days ago04:17
zykotick9dr_willis: i certainly man not "up to date" ;)04:17
dr_willisthere are ppa search tools04:17
LiquidEdgeAnyone know of a better conversion client?04:17
LiquidEdgeThat's GUI so my wife can use it.04:17
dr_willistheres tone of ways to convert stuff04:18
LiquidEdgeJust kidding, I need GUI.  I suck.04:18
dr_willisdepends on the  details04:18
david-yenorHas anyone else experienced any bugs though with Precise?04:18
bazhangLiquidEdge, the jstebbins ppa works 100% fine04:18
LiquidEdgeJust converting mts to avi04:18
dr_willisLiquidEdge:  try arista, or winff04:18
bazhangLiquidEdge, how did you add it exactly04:18
LiquidEdgeHere's my output:  http://pastebin.com/a8rxiZLK04:19
dr_willishandbreak dosent convert to  'avi' last i  looked. ;)04:19
bazhangLiquidEdge, did you update your sources list after adding it?04:19
LiquidEdgeYes.04:19
bazhangLiquidEdge, whats the command you used to add it04:19
metaphysicianI have a complaint about Canonical. They don't send kernel patches to upstream.04:20
bazhangmetaphysician, wrong channel04:20
zykotick9LiquidEdge: if you want MP4 output, handbrake is often the easiest/best output available IMO (for other formats others can surpas handbrake's quality)04:20
bazhangmetaphysician, email them04:20
LiquidEdgeI need to go from mts to avi04:21
zykotick9LiquidEdge: avi certainly IS NOT supported by handbrake, so you need something else04:21
bazhangLiquidEdge, you mean m4v04:21
dr_willisarists, and winff can most likely do it LiquidEdge '04:21
dr_willisarista04:21
LiquidEdgeNo.  .mts04:21
dr_willisnot sure ive ever seen a .mts04:21
bazhangLiquidEdge, not much will go an avi container04:21
LiquidEdgemp4 is fine, too, I reckon04:21
bazhangLiquidEdge, or m4v, as I just said04:22
zykotick9bazhang: m4v is mp4 - same thing04:22
LiquidEdgeTIL m4v is mp404:22
bazhangLiquidEdge, whats the exact command you used to add that ppa04:22
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LiquidEdgesudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases04:22
bazhanghe has two iirc04:23
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bazhangLiquidEdge, and you are on oneiric? natty? or what04:24
LiquidEdge12.0404:24
LiquidEdgeNames confuse me04:24
LiquidEdgeHowever, I am easily confused.04:24
jgrevichAny idea why /proc/mdstat yields, "md127 : inactive sdd1[1](S) sdc1[2](S) sdb1[3](S) sdh1[4](S) sdg1[5](S) sde1[0](S)".  All the drives are healthy, but for some reason they are no longer attached to the raid and it's missing one (sdf).04:26
Jeremy3Danyone here good with networking and routers?04:26
vnhello, I used to have lines beginning with sudo -c on Lucid LTS and just updated to Precise, now it appears syntax is incorrect, what should I use?04:27
bazhanghttps://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots  LiquidEdge this is the correct one, not the one you are using04:27
vnlines in rc.local04:27
bazhangLiquidEdge, ppa=purge the one you have and replace it with the correct one04:28
LiquidEdgeThat is signficant04:28
LiquidEdgeok04:28
Jeremy3Danyone know of a proper irc channel for router/networking problems?04:29
bazhangJeremy3D, ##networking perhaps04:29
jazzkovskydr_willis: Normally a program looks for the libBulletDynamics.so shortcut  file that would appropriately point to whatever version you may have  installed. Not so with Free Orion. For some reason it wants the exact  libBulletDynamics.so.2.75 file by version name. So, I'm still trying to copy my .so file. Is there no way?04:30
vnhow can I use sudo in a script so it runs a command as another user?04:30
Jeremy3Dbazhang, thanks that seems to be valid. hopefully someone is there...04:30
EliahKagan@vn sudo -u <username> <command>04:31
EliahKaganbut that doesn't reproduce the functionality sudo -c used to provide04:31
LiquidEdgebazhang, Yay!  Working.  Thanks so much.04:31
EliahKaganif you need to run a command with a specific login class, i am not sure how to do that in Precise or even if login classes exist anymore as such04:31
vnEliahKagan: how comes?  and do you know why it got removed?04:32
EliahKagan@vn i don't know, unfortunately -- i've never actually used sudo -c in my own scripts04:32
vnEliahKagan: ok, gonna try -u04:33
EliahKaganif you just need to run a command as a specific user, -u should do it for you04:33
vnyeah, just virtualboxes04:33
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wifioregonugh someone earlier gave me the command to safely install xfce. I'm using 12.04 with gnome classic04:43
wifioregonanyone know it?04:43
LiquidEdgeI use it on xubuntu04:43
joe42hey can any body help me copy a file into an encrypted folder04:43
joe42hello?04:45
EliahKagan@wifioregon: the most standard way to install a fully functional Xfce on an existing Ubuntu system is04:48
EliahKagansudo apt-get update04:48
EliahKagansudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:48
EliahKagan(or just install the xubuntu-desktop package in the Software Center)04:49
EliahKaganif you want fewer applications that are not strictly necessary installed, and more of a bare-bones but fully functional xfce, you can use04:49
EliahKagansudo apt-get update04:49
EliahKagansudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop04:50
jazzkovskyjrib: got it working. just had to copy the .so file via the terminal (root)04:52
jerrinI have two Linux distributions Debian and Ubuntu, and Windows installed in my computer. Ubuntu is the recently installed distro. Both are on an extended partition. I did a grub update from my Debian distro but it is failing to recognize Ubuntu. Anyway to get back the original configuration?04:55
squarepeghello04:57
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greenwolfsup04:58
squarepegI'm trying to upgrade a package04:58
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squarepegI had the package pinned, so it didn't upgrade when I did a dist-upgrade to precise04:58
squarepegnow I've erased the /etc/apt/preferences.d/file04:59
squarepegand The following packages have been kept back: libapache2-mod-php5 libglib2.0-0 php-pear php5 php5-cgi04:59
squarepegwhen I try to update04:59
squarepegI'm supposed to have php5.3 not php5.205:00
squarepegI checked the packages on the website for precise05:00
EliahKagan@squarepeg: how are you trying to update? if you're using the command-line, what command are you running?05:00
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squarepegEliahKagan: dpkg --configure -a05:00
squarepegEliahKagan: and then apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y05:01
EliahKagani wonder if the packages being kept back is unrelated to the package that had been pinned05:01
Tensotuaw crap.. comeone post the command line for chmod?05:01
Tensotumy OS is in portueguese..05:01
EliahKaganwhen you run sudo apt-get upgrade, it will only update packages that can be updated without installing or removing other packages05:01
EliahKaganhave you tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:02
squarepegEliahKagan: that's relevant05:02
squarepegI'll try that.05:02
wifioregonEliahKagan:  Thanks so much. That worked05:02
EliahKagan(it's not only, or even primarily, for upgrading to a new release -- in fact, except for "early" upgrades to unstable releases, it is not a recommended way to upgrade released in Ubuntu)05:02
squarepegEliahKagan: that's the ticket right there.05:02
squarepegthanks05:02
EliahKagancool -- glad it worked05:02
tr3nton!wayland05:02
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EliahKagan@Tensotu is this what you need?05:03
EliahKaganek@Apok:~$ chmod --help05:03
EliahKaganUsage: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE...05:03
EliahKagan  or:  chmod [OPTION]... OCTAL-MODE FILE...05:03
EliahKagan  or:  chmod [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE...05:03
EliahKaganChange the mode of each FILE to MODE.05:03
FloodBot1EliahKagan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:03
diverdudeCan you recommend any screencapture tools? (for making video)05:03
bazhangdiverdude, kazam05:04
GeekSquiddiverdude: recordmydesktop is the application you need05:04
dr_willisrecordmydesktop is handy. but recording sound can be a pain05:05
EliahKagansorry to flood, here's the chmod syntax in pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005913/05:05
dr_willis!permissions05:05
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions05:05
RealEyesi cant seem to get expo edge working, or the edge where it shows all my desktops05:06
RealEyeshelp?05:06
GeekSquidRealEyes: #compiz channel for that05:06
bazhangRealEyes, in unity 3d or 2d05:06
RealEyes3d05:07
dr_willisand come compiz plugins dont work well with unity and its other plugins05:07
RealEyesi have compiz installed05:07
bazhangRealEyes, does not clicking workspaces do it05:07
RealEyesit does05:07
RealEyesbut i want it set to an edge05:07
Daniel110Hi i have a new hp laptop and the hard drive has already 4 partitions. I really don't want to mess around with it so i decided to try to install wubi? What is the difference between a regular partition and will i notice any difference in performance especially?05:07
RealEyesany ideas bazhang?05:07
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AndChat|565409Hi05:07
GeekSquidRealEyes: do you have compizconifg-settings-manager installed05:07
RealEyesyes05:08
bazhangRealEyes, I only know for 2d, that works05:08
RealEyeshow can i tell if im in 2d or 3d?05:08
GeekSquidRealEyes: and the Unity compatibility plugin enabled?05:08
bazhangDaniel110, you can use wubi, though it's more of a trial run, better to dual boot05:08
dr_willisDaniel110:  wubi can be very fragile.  if you are just wanting to test out ubuntu, you couldl use virtualbox, or install to a decnetly cheap these days  flash drive.05:08
RealEyesGeekSquid, where is that?05:08
EliahKagan@Daniel110: wubi installs Ubuntu in a disk image file inside an NTFS (Windows) partition, which is mounted when it boots, so it doesn't add any partitions; in terms of performance, it may be slower because it is slower to access a disk image in NTFS than to access a real ext4 (or similar) filesystem05:09
bazhangRealEyes, in ccsm05:09
RealEyesok im there05:09
RealEyesnow where?05:09
EliahKaganit's also sometimes more difficult to recover data from a broken Wubi system05:09
Tensotuanyone able to help with tomcat?05:09
dr_willisand wubi seems to like to break...05:09
RealEyesgeneral? utility?05:09
zykotick9Daniel110: the fact that OEMs use 4 partitions is, i believe, a direct attempt to dicourage people from installing gnu/linux :(05:09
dr_willisccsm has a search feature  i think05:09
RealEyesi found the unity plugin it's enabled05:10
dr_willisRealEyes:  unity plugin has to be enabled or unity wont work. :)05:10
Daniel110ah k thanks i am already using virtualbox but i runs really slow, has anyone installed ubuntu on an hp laptop with 4 partitions?05:10
RealEyesits enabled dr_willis05:10
dr_willisDaniel110:  i always just  buy a new hd for my  new laptops ;P forbackups and linux, and keep the  original somewherfe safe05:10
dr_willisRealEyes:  of course it is...if it wasent - you wouldentbe using unity.05:11
RealEyeslol05:11
dr_willislast laptop i bought.. i bought a 2nd hd for it.. got it home. and realized the beast could take 2 hard drives.. ;)05:12
EliahKagan@Daniel110: VirtualBox shouldn't be too slow but it will almost definitely be slower than Wubi; if you tell us what each of the four existing partitions are for, that might help05:12
dr_willisthat gave linux itd own 500gb hd.05:12
RealEyesno one is talking in #compiz lol05:12
Daniel110dr_willis: the prolblem is that i still need windows so i would rather install it on my current hard drive05:12
EliahKaganyou probably have a recovery partition for restoring the OEM windows system, and a Windows system partition ...but what are the other two?05:12
dr_willisDaniel110:  dependong on whats in the 4 partitions, you can  backup then remove them05:12
EliahKaganif one of them is a backup partition, you may just be able to transfer its data elsewhere, remove it, and recreate it inside an extended partition05:12
GeekSquidRealEyes: realize most of the english speaking world is sleeping right now05:12
zykotick9Daniel110: if you want to keep your system (and possible update to next version) i'd say vbox is possibly less hassle then wubi05:13
RealEyesat 10:30pm?05:13
RealEyeslame05:13
Daniel110System, C:, Recovery, HP_TOOLS05:13
dr_willisits 1+am in the usa05:13
EliahKaganare they in that order, on the disk?05:13
GeekSquidRealEyes: you might be on the west coast, however New York and London are getting zzz's05:13
RealEyesawh05:14
Daniel110yes05:14
dr_willisDaniel110:  be sure to make a dvd-restore disk set befor messing with too much ;)05:14
Daniel110ah no sorry05:14
EliahKaganyou may want to look at your documentation first, but it seems to me that you should be able to remove and recreate the HP_TOOLS partition without problems05:14
Daniel110alrady did05:14
bongsawyeris it possible to have Ubuntu look, feel, and behave like Mac OS X Lion? Apple states Lion is the world's most advanced desktop OS.05:14
dr_willisbongsawyer:  apple states a lot of false claims and outright lies.05:15
EliahKaganif you do that, i'd make sure to put it first in the extended partition05:15
zykotick9dr_willis: don't feed ;)05:15
dr_willis;)05:15
LiquidEdgeI haven't seen Lion.05:15
EliahKaganso that anything that relies on drive letters will likely assign the same one two it that it had before05:15
LiquidEdgeBut Macbuntu is pretty handy.05:15
AndChat|565409Ok05:16
Daniel110of course apple is going to say that05:16
EliahKagan*to it05:16
dr_willismacbuntu - handy way to trash your install05:16
pangchongquit05:16
Daniel110why the hell does hp do this??05:16
bongsawyerzykotick9 is a wanker.05:16
AndChat|565409Hello05:17
Daniel110Do they get paid by microsoft?05:17
wifioregonhi AndChat|56540905:17
EliahKaganyou mean why don't they put the fourth partition in an extended partition, or use something besides an MSDOS disklabel (like GPT) that lets you have more than four primary partitions?05:17
dr_willisDaniel110:  now ya know why first thing i do with a new laptop is image the whole hd via dd to some other hd. for backups05:17
diverdudeGeekSquid: its not really working05:17
diverdudeits only recording an area of the size of the control window which is just a small patch of the entire screen even though i select it to capture a bigger window05:18
GeekSquiddiverdude: dr_willis reccommended kazam ... try that05:19
Daniel110dr_willis: ye i do the same thing on a cd but i just don't get how use all of the 4 partitions when they know that not everyone buying their laptops will use windows05:19
AndChat|565409dfg05:19
Vanican anyone help me configure my network? i was using tutorials, but when i enter the code it says command not found. I was told to do sudo lim/etc/netwrok/interfaces but that doesn't work05:19
dr_willisDaniel110:  its cheaper and easier for them to not worry about  the customer05:19
EliahKagan@Vani it looks like you have a typo in the command05:20
EliahKagancan you point us to the instructions you're using?05:20
GeekSquidVani: sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces ... or nano /etc/network/interfaces05:20
Vani>-< no that was just a typo on here, i've  been typing it in to Ubuntujust fine05:20
dr_williswhen did it become 'ok' to take away 10+% of the hard drive for os-restoreing05:20
EliahKaganso it says you don't have vim?05:20
Daniel110try vi05:20
Vaniif i do sudo vim it takes me into vim, but it won't take me into the further parts?05:21
EliahKaganyeah, vi will work...or if you want a simpler editor, you can use nano instead05:21
zykotick9Vani: lim isn't an editor - and why are you editing /etc/network/interfaces?  that will disable network-manager for any device you add.05:21
Orukusakiok05:21
EliahKaganor install vim with05:21
Vanioh.. nano is doing something now05:21
EliahKagansudo apt-get install vim05:21
luigiHi05:21
Vaniwell, will it install it if i don't have internet connection?05:22
luigiI need some help with Windows software05:22
dr_willisvim should be instlled by default05:22
zykotick9Vani: "sudo apt-get install vim" is the 1st thing i do on any debian-based system, the default vim-tiny doesn't cut it05:22
EliahKaganbut zykotick9 has a good point -- you should make sure you really want manual network configuration rather than NetworkManager for whatever interfaces you edit05:22
GeekSquidluigi: this is not the place for that ... #windows might be a better place05:22
Daniel110luigi: you mean running windows software on ubuntu?05:22
EliahKagan@luigi or are you trying to run the Windows software on Ubuntu?05:22
Vanioh, wait, i'd said i can get into vim itself, but when i type the whole thing it doesn't work.05:22
luigiDoes someone in here knows how to install Zune software in Ubuntu?05:22
Daniel110luigi: did you try wine?05:23
diverdudeHow is it i add a ppa in the terminal?05:23
luigiOh, ok. I'll take my question to #windows05:23
luigiYes, I tried05:23
OrukusakiIs there channel for compiz05:23
dr_willis!appdb | luigi05:23
ubottuluigi: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help05:23
EliahKaganwell, if you're trying to run it in Ubuntu then this is probably a better place than #windows05:23
RealEyesguess i will just youtube it05:23
Daniel110luigi: What went wrong05:23
Daniel110?05:23
dr_willisOrukusaki:  #compiz05:23
GeekSquiddiverdude: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-simplified-way-to-add-ppa-repositories-in-karmic.html05:24
OrukusakiOk05:24
xrdodrxWhat's the best way to switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu 12.04? I want to remove Unity and GNOME packages in the process.05:24
Odd-rationaleluigi: As far as I know, the Zune software does not work on Ubuntu, even with Wine.05:24
EliahKaganthe info on AppDB about running official Zune software with Wine is not too encouraging: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10663 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=574105:24
luigiWell, it does not installs at all, just gets me into a kind of error05:25
luigilet me retry it again05:25
zykotick9xrdodrx: i'm not sure if this is current but "/msg ubottu purekde"05:25
rkhshmis there a good rdp client for ubuntu?05:25
rkhshmI have remmina and it sucks05:25
luigi"extracting files"05:25
rkhshmI need another one urgently pls05:25
EliahKagan@xrdodrx take a look at this: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu05:26
luigi"Internal errors-invalid parameters received"05:26
GeekSquidrkhshm: tsclient works well for me05:26
GeekSquidrkhshm: this is for logging into windows?05:26
rkhshmGeekSquid: no loggin into another ubuntu server05:26
xrdodrxthanks EliahKagan05:26
GeekSquidrkhshm: vinagre is the common one I use05:27
rkhshmGeekSquid: there is no tsclient05:27
GeekSquidrkhshm: sudo apt-get install tsclient05:27
* zykotick9 thinks remote gui is silly, ssh with X when required, so much faster.05:27
rkhshmno such pkg05:28
dr_willis!info tsclient05:28
ubottuPackage tsclient does not exist in precise05:28
dr_willis!find tsclient05:28
ubottuFile tsclient found in dockmanager, elementary-icon-theme, gnome-brave-icon-theme, gnome-dust-icon-theme, gnome-human-icon-theme, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux, gnome-icon-theme-gperfection2, gnome-icon-theme-yasis, gnome-illustrious-icon-theme (and 6 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=tsclient&mode=&suite=precise&arch=any05:28
Onixs!ufail05:28
dashProblemHelpnewly installed 12.04 and Dash doesn't work. I think it might have something to do with my graphics because it says Im running in low resolution mode.  Anyone know much about this?  Please.  Thanks.05:29
dr_willisdashProblemHelp:  and your video card/chipset is?05:29
dashProblemHelplet me get it one sec05:29
diverdudedr_willis: where do i specify the output video file in this kazam?05:29
zykotick9dashProblemHelp: if you aren't sure - "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal would tell you05:30
dr_willisdiverdude:  no idea. never used it05:30
Odd-rationalediverdude: should give you the option to save video once you stop recording05:30
dashProblemHelpAdvanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B6005:31
EliahKagan@xrdrdrx just make sure to install kubuntu-desktop before you remove ubuntu-desktop and related packages05:31
luigiSince not using windows, they took me back here05:31
diverdudeOdd-rationale: no it didn't05:31
dr_willisluigi:  you  should check  the  wine  app database thsat app  may  not  work in wine at all05:31
Odd-rationalediverdude: did you pause recording or select finish recording?05:32
luigino workarounds or so? :(05:32
dr_willisluigi:  the wine people/devs may  know.  not  us.05:32
dr_willisluigi:  thsats the point  of the wine app database05:32
dr_willis!appdb05:32
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help05:32
diverdudeOdd-rationale: ahh it takes a while before it appears05:32
Odd-rationaleluigi: I've tried before. Zune software does not work on ubuntu05:33
dashProblemHelp<dr_willis> Advanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B6005:33
EliahKaganunfortunately it doesn't look like there's much of any way to use a Zune in Ubuntu right now (http://askubuntu.com/questions/1307/zune-ubuntu-what-are-my-options)05:33
dashProblemHelpdr_willis: Advanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B6005:33
dr_willisdashProblemHelp:  means  nothing to  me.. you did  run the  addational hardware tool and  see if it  needed any extra drivers?05:34
dashProblemHelpzykotick9: Advanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B6005:34
dashProblemHelpdr_willis: I have not. Is the additional hardware tool called "additional hardware tool?"05:35
diverdudeOdd-rationale: hmm seems like a pretty unstable program05:35
Vanihow do i check if ubuntu has internet access?05:35
dr_willisdashProblemHelp:  no idea. it is always changeing names in each release. i  run it from terminal 'gksudo jockey-gtk'05:35
diverdudeOdd-rationale: ok...the delaytime is just really big05:36
luigiWell, thanks for the help. If was for Zune I could be totally Windows-free. Hope you guys can make some workaround it.  Time to get the Windows DVD back. See ya 'round.05:36
dashProblemHelpdr_willis: I see, I will look into that. thank you.05:36
Odd-rationalediverdude: part of the problem of having it coded all in python... :)05:36
* dr_willis would just toss the zune05:36
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luigiCan't, I am using a Lumia 900. Kind of can't.05:37
diverdudeOdd-rationale: python is not that slow is it? I think it must be poorly programmed05:37
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Odd-rationalediverdude: That's probably it too.05:38
christusushi05:40
christusussomeone helps me to boot from another kernel? i have no gui here and it has to set-up over shell?05:41
celthunderchristusus: edit the kernel/initrd line in grub05:41
thauriswulfaQUESTION: whenever I type in Capitals on any IRC channel does that message is displayed in other's OSD?05:41
dr_willischristusus:  what other kernel?05:41
dr_willisthauriswulfa:  no.05:42
Odd-rationalethauriswulfa: nope. probably when someone mentions your nick05:42
thauriswulfaOne more question, well its not a #ubuntu question in its whole but what ANSI escape sequences should I use to make console output colorful in Java?05:44
RealEyessometimes, after switching views... My apps wont respond05:44
RealEyeslike05:44
RealEyesi have to minimize it or something before it will react05:44
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alankilathauriswulfa: \u001b[3;32m05:44
RealEyesi thought have this on SSD would be better05:44
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RealEyesdoesnt seem to matter when my stuff doesnt respond everytime05:45
thauriswulfaalankila: do you know a list of them?05:45
RealEyesalso, the sidetab sometimes wont notice my mouse trying to pop it out05:45
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alankilathauriswulfa: not really... that kind of list is out there. iirc the latter 3<color>m sets the color, the former selects style. there was some choices like underline, bold, for the style05:46
RealEyeslike right now05:46
RealEyesit wont pop out05:46
bazhang!enter | RealEyes05:46
ubottuRealEyes: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:46
roshanHello05:46
RealEyesand when i click the left edge, its acting like pidgin is there but its not! but when i double click, it opens a chat window05:46
RealEyesubuntu sucksss because of these little problems05:47
roshanI was trying to copile a kernel with Ubuntu 12.0 as secified inone of the ubuntu help pages05:47
alusionHow do I make a hidden folder or the equivalent of gallery lock on ubuntu ?05:47
alusionHOW DO I HIDE MY PR0NZ05:47
Vani>-< I just figured out why i was having that problem with vim, I didn't realize i needed a space between vim and /etc/network/interfaces05:47
roshanA particular section on the tutorial askes me to enable "Kernel module loader"05:47
roshanBut I couldn't find any?05:48
roshanWhere could I find it ?05:48
DaZalusion: get truecrypt :f05:49
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RealEyesPidgin will never show my messenger list, the dock/sidepanel just decides when it wants to behave and when it doesnt want to show. Switching workspaces is nice, but sometimes my apps dont respond right after.05:50
RealEyesridiculous!05:50
EliahKagan@alusion i'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but files and folders whose names start with a . character are hidden by default05:51
alusionahah that was the trick i was looking for actually05:51
alusionthanks!05:51
EliahKaganyou can still show hidden folders in Nautilus and other file browsers, or pass the -a flag to ls, to see them05:51
EliahKaganthe main purpose of dotfiles and dot-directories is to be out of the user's way when you don't *want* to see them05:52
EliahKaganthey're mainly used for configuration information05:52
alusion i see ctrl-h is used to show hidden files, i am still gunna encrypt my stash ;D05:53
EliahKaganyeah, i was going to say, if you have files you need to prevent others from reading even if they have access to them, you should use encryption05:53
EliahKaganwith a strong key/password05:53
EliahKaganof course, if it's actually just pr0n, then it may not really matter that much ...confidential client files or medical records and the like are a different story05:54
arulmozhineed help. guys. I thought posting it here is irrelevant. but now i hav no choice anybody?? please help. here is my post on linuxforums http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/kernel/189128-basic-requirements.html05:54
Sargun-WorkWhat is the overflow device mounted on /tmp?05:55
EliahKagan@arulmozhi If you want to make your own distro, check out http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/05:56
EliahKaganthat's not Ubuntu05:56
EliahKaganbut Ubuntu may not be what you want05:57
EliahKaganif you want to customize Ubuntu live media to incorporate the software you need, and you want to do it from scratch rather than starting with an existing live CD image, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch05:58
RealEyesbrasero would be good to burn an .iso to disc, yes?06:04
phoenix_k5ya brasero is good. if you need more stuff k3b is even faster and better06:07
VaniHow can you tell if you're connected to the internet?06:07
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dageriktest06:08
phoenix_k5try typing "ping www.google.com"06:09
phoenix_k5if it return some timing you are connected to internet. otherwise it will show an error06:09
dizzylizzyping -c 3 google.com is probably better06:09
dizzylizzywait why did I say anything nvm06:09
Vanisays unknown host06:10
ferniping 8.8.8.806:10
OrukusakiMy desktop went completely blank how do i restore06:11
VaniIs the internet under network? cause when i look i only see a loopback, and I don't see etho or wireless06:12
diverdudeOdd-rationale: ohhh gooood...recorded a 30 minute long video....that will take forever before the savebox appears06:12
diverdudeOdd-rationale: thats pretty hilarious on todays strong computers06:13
dmarjosHi... I need to know how to recover Windows XP boot after installing Ubuntu 10.10. My XP partition isn't the boot one. That's the Ubuntu partition...06:15
Vanican ubuntu use the same internet i use for windows? will it connect to a modem?06:15
dr_williswhat kind of modem vani06:15
StarryNightyes sir i had no problems with none06:15
Vanibelkin?06:15
dr_willisnot brand... kind.06:16
dr_willishow are yiu getting your internet06:16
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Vanicrap, i feel like an idiot, I know it's wireless and through comcast..06:17
grendal-primeubuntu-server06:17
dr_willisa normal 'cable' modem works fine here for me with linux or windows. I normally  plug a 'cable' modem into a router.06:17
dr_willisthen the pcs go into the router06:18
Vanisorry.. yess.. cable.06:18
dr_willisso  its a cable modem going straight via a network cable to thepc? or how06:18
VaniIt's wirelss06:19
dr_willisyour cable modem has wireelss built in?06:19
VaniI have a wireless card on my computer... do cable modems not usually have wirelss built in?06:20
dr_willisVani:  i saw a few high end Mortolla cable modems that did. I dident buy one of those. better to use a modem + a router06:20
Vaniumm.. well my dad's the one who has the internet set up... but i know when i have to restart the internet I think there's 2 different devices, so maybe we have a modem and a router?06:22
dr_willisif you only hasve a wireless connection to the internet from your pc. then you may need to do addational work getting your WIreLESS card working in linux.. nothing to do with the modem/router06:23
Vaniwell i just checked, and we have a wireless router. I kinda figured I'd have to do some extra work, since when i was intalling it couldn't find anything under etho or wireless... so i skipped it..06:27
dr_williseasiest thing to do woul  dbe to run a wire for a short time, install all updates/upgrades and run the addational drivers tool to see if it  suggests any extra wireless drivers06:34
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Vanierrr.. guess i'll have to wait till tomorrow for that, cause i dunno where any wires to do that would be at, since my dad is in charge of that.06:35
DarwinSurvivorVani: just to make sure, you are trying to set up a laptop right?06:35
VaniYeah06:35
DarwinSurvivorVani: can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the output of "lspci" into it?06:36
VaniI debated trying to do it on the desktop i'm on, but this desktop was made in 2003, and it's 32 bit, and i had the 64 bit version was i was worried it wouldn't run right.06:36
Vaniumm.. i'll check it out?06:37
dr_willis64bit os wont run on 32bit hardware06:37
dr_willisso it wouldent have been an issue. ;)06:37
alusiondr_willis has a taste in trance =)06:37
Vaniuhh.. wouldn't it just not running be an issue?06:38
shapeHello, I just installed an ATI/AMD video card on my computer. Used to have Nvidia. How do I uninstall the Nvidia drivers? In jokey it shows only the AMD/ATI ones now and no option to remove the Nvidia ones. Should I run sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current ? - Will this do it?06:38
dr_willis'wouldent run right' --. it woldent run at all.06:38
niklasfihey, i am looking for an upstart event my battery management can start on. this is what i tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005983/ this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005984/06:38
Vaniwell.. not running at all, still wouldn't be running right. I did figure it wouldn't run, but I knew if it could somehow do that, that it would have problems06:39
dr_willisshape check the xorg.conf  file also. you may need to remove it. or rename it.. or edit it06:39
shapedr_willis, is there a GUI way to do this?06:40
dr_willisvani  lubuntu or even ubuntu may run ok on that box. dependin on its hardware06:40
dr_willisshape for what : its just a text file... look  for it/at it...06:40
Vaniwell.. either way i'd still have the internet problem06:40
shapedr_willis so what should I do about xorg.conf ?06:40
DarwinSurvivorVani: can you run "lspci" in a terminal and look for something with "network" in the name?06:41
booiDarwinSurvivor, lol nice nick. :)06:41
DarwinSurvivorbooi: thank you06:41
dr_willisshape if its beenb customized for your nvidia card. remove/remame it.. you can rename it anyway if you wanted to be extra safe.. but it may not even exist.. so go see if its there06:41
jgrevichAny mdadm experts here?  My controller card falsely disabled 6 of my 7 raid disks and messed up their superblocks.  Can I safely wipe the superblocks from those 6 drives and recreate the array?  Do I need to figure out the correct order (since they may not be in order of drive letter?)06:42
shapedr_willis, so if i rename it, when I install the ati drivers a new xorg.conf will be created correct?06:42
dr_willisshape an xorg.conf is often not needed at all06:42
Vaniuhh.. in a terminal? like when using desktop version? I think if i were on desktop it would be easier, i'm on server, and I probably shouldn't be cause I don't know what I'm doing yet..06:42
dr_williswhy did you instgall the server edition vani? what was you hoping to gain by that06:43
Vaniwell.... I was using elithecomputerguy@youtube.com's tutorials, and it sounded like he was mostly gonna use server version, and he was saying how a lot of the things don't work as well in desktop06:44
dr_willisi cant imasgine anything that works  'better' on a server  thsat wouldent work as well on a desktop06:44
dr_willisso i sugest doing a desktop install..06:45
Vaniand i realized later that i could have use desktop and used the terminal...  well.. Yeah, I dunno, I'm listening to other people because i don't know06:45
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VaniI have it on a boot disk, cause i was originall going to do that, and then his first actually tutorial he was saying he was using server...06:46
aeon-ltdVani: well lesson learned and now you can spend a fun 30 minutes for a reinstall :)06:46
shapedr_willis I cant rename the xorg file06:46
dr_willismight be a good ideas to find a better set of tutorials....06:46
dr_willisshape its a system file. so you need root rights to do it.. linux fundamentals06:47
DarwinSurvivorVani: I just browsed his videos and most of them appear to be on fairly advanced topics (VPN, tcp/ip, snmp, etc). I'd recommend sticking with the ubuntu desktop tutorials and then going back to his videos after you've learned your way around linux first06:47
dr_willissudo mv /pth/to/thing /path/to/thing.backup06:47
Vaniyeahhh.... I kinda think so too, because the version he was using in the tutorail was from 2010 or something, so i keep seeing differences and getting confused06:47
DarwinSurvivorVani: go with desktop version. All the underlying stuff is the same except also installs a GUI which make the computer MUCH easier to use06:48
shapedr_willis yep, thanks! But may I ask, isn't xorg.conf needed?06:48
dr_willisshape x auto configures for the most part these days.. been that way for like 2+ years now06:49
DarwinSurvivorshape: xorg.conf is no longer needed. it is only used when you want to change defaults and do some fairly special setups. for 95% of users, they will never need one06:49
dr_willislook in the xorg.conf file. its most likely like 4 lines..06:49
Vaniwhat's the code to shut down?06:49
aeon-ltdVani: sudo halt06:49
dr_willisall my xorg.conf does is eneable twinview and the monitor layout06:49
dr_willisvani or 'shutdown'  logical eh?06:50
aeon-ltdor 'sudo shutdown -h now'06:50
Vaniahh, yeah the sudo shutdown -h now is the one i saw last night.06:50
shapedr_willis, done, so now I just have to install the Ati drivers correct?06:50
Vanii'm getting tired and felt lazy, and you guys know it so i figured i'd just ask you guys06:50
aeon-ltdVani: heh you should come here more often if you can't find a recent tutorial(s)06:51
dr_willisshape many ati cards are decently supported (or only supported) by the gpl drivers. so it depends on your card06:51
sheep_#ubuntu06:51
sheep_Hi there.06:51
shapeDarwinSurvivor, Thanks btw!06:51
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shapedr_willis, I need to install the drivers so I can get 3d acceleration working :(06:52
sheep_Is someone using Live voyager on a liveusb ?06:52
Vaniyeah.. well.. even after i realized when trying to look at the network information that i needed a space, it still messed up again..06:52
dr_willisnever heard of 'live voyager'06:52
sheep_That's a fork of xubuntu (12.04)06:52
Vanilive voyager makese me think star trek...06:52
dr_willisunofficiaal ubuntu variants are not supported here. check their own channels, or web sites06:53
DarwinSurvivorshape: no problem06:53
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sheep_Argh, they do not own irc in fact..06:53
dr_willis'own'? theres no cost for them to have an irc channel here.06:54
sheep_But, that's the same software center. So, can I ask you something ?06:54
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: because you asked nicely and because it's so quiet in here right now, I'll try to answer your question. but understand that there's a good chance the answer may be specific to your variant of ubuntu06:58
motokiabcde07:00
Shani0610Hello guys, I have apache 2.2 installed and working perfectly but my php5-cgi not working properly, where should I look for errors?07:00
motokiabc07:01
DarwinSurvivorShani0610: if your site isn't working, how do you know apache is?07:01
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor Ok, my liveusb is persistent. I tried to install libreoffice but it did not find the package. Then I went to Synaptic and discovered that the only software available were already installed.07:01
shapeHello, I tried installing the Ati proprietary drivers (post-release) and It said "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: jokey.log Should I paste-bin the log file. I looked in it and can't understand a thing.07:02
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: does it use the "software center" or another tool for installing software?07:02
lukicatany1 has a tutorial to set up a router with a latest version of debian or ubuntu?07:03
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor It uses the software center. Libreoffice is usualy in the sources.07:03
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: can you printscreen it, I think you may be on the wrong page07:04
trippy3199usreally odd question.. but i been trying to figure it out on my own and keep hitting dead ends... i have a flash drive with a bad sector.. and i cant get it to load in windows or ubuntu.. i use ubuntu however and i want to try to recover what i can..07:05
llutz_lukicat: web should be full of it, keywords are "ip-forwarding/-masquerading, dnsmasq"07:06
trippy3199usanyone have any idea where to look for information or any suggestions for me on recovering the files.. i do know what sector is bad.. and that it must be in the part of the FS that loads when its connected..07:06
Shani0610Hello guys, I have apache 2.2 installed and working perfectly but my php5-cgi not working properly, where should I look for errors?07:06
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: try "photorec" it was originally designed to recover pictures from flashcards, but apparently works fairly well for other files on usb drives as well07:07
DarwinSurvivorShani0610: if your site isn't working, how do you know apache is?07:07
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-25052012-090508.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-25052012-090525.php07:07
trippy3199usthanks so much darwinsurvivor07:07
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: no problem07:07
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor I don't know if you master french, it means : Not found, There is no package named "libreoffice" in your actual sources07:08
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: what happens when you click on one of the libreoffice ones?07:08
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: I'm fluent in french :)07:09
Shani0610DarwinSurvivor, I am pretty sure cuz I have checked my own templates properly working as desired, now i need php whivh is not working.07:09
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor The second screenshot is when I click it.07:09
DarwinSurvivorShani0610: have you used apache to display anything else?07:09
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: so when you click on one of the in screenshot #1, it shows you screenshot #2?07:10
DarwinSurvivor*them07:10
sheep_@DarwinSurvir Exactly.07:10
Shani0610DarwinSurvivor,  can you rephrase? specially else07:10
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sheep_@DarwinSurvivor The 3rd is my sources, which are all activated.07:11
DarwinSurvivorsheep_: that sounds like an issue specific to your variant, I'm afraid we won't be able to help you with this problem here since they most likely use different repositories07:11
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor That's the same repositories as xubuntu 12.04.07:12
DarwinSurvivorShani0610: if you go into "/var/log" there should be 2 things called "apache" or "httpd". one will say "errors", that's the one you want07:12
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DarwinSurvivorsheep_: well, they've obviously changed *something* (or it wouldn't be a variant), so you'll have to use their support channels07:13
Jordan_Utrippy3199us: DarwinSurvivor: Photorec isn't the first tool I would use if you're certain that the problem is a bad sector, it's more for recovering from software errors (overwritten filesystems) than hardware ones. I recommend first using GNU ddrescue (*not* dd_rescue) to create a full disk image, then if you can't mount the partition from the disk image running photorec on the image would be a good idea.07:13
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: Jordan_U has a point, you should make a full image of the drive first. If you know which device it is, use dd to make a copy ex: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/home/my_username/flashdrive_backup.img"07:14
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: replace X and Y with the appropriate values07:15
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: also, how did you find out it has a bad sector?07:15
Jordan_Utrippy3199us: DarwinSurvivor: If you know that there is a bad sector then dd won't be particularly useful. Use GNU ddrescue which is made to handle drives with bad sectors.07:15
Shani0610DarwinSurvivor, I have php5-cgi installed.07:16
sheep_ @DarwinSurvivor Yes, but they keep the same operating as xubuntu.07:16
sheep_@DarwinSurvivor We can UPDATE live voyager to a xubuntu.07:17
DarwinSurvivorShani0610: if you go into "/var/log" there should be 2 things called "apache" or "httpd". one will say "errors", that's the one you want07:17
llutz_!info libreoffice | sheep_  libreoffice is in main-repo, so check your sources07:19
ubottusheep_ libreoffice is in main-repo, so check your sources: libreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.5.3-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 22 kB, installed size 155 kB07:19
DarwinSurvivorllutz_: he's using a derivative07:19
lukicatllutz, ty foudn something07:20
llutz_DarwinSurvivor: thats why i said he should check his sources07:20
legend2440hello, has anyone here tried VMware-Player-4.0.3-703057.i386.bundle on ubuntu 12.04. it installs fine but when it tries to compile modules during first run I get vmnet errors and it won't run07:20
DarwinSurvivor!vmware | legend2440 did you follow these instructions?07:21
ubottulegend2440 did you follow these instructions?: VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware07:21
legend2440DarwinSurvivor:  thanks I will check it out07:21
prophitHey guys - I'm running 12.04 in a VM through VirtualBox. I've started up guacd (part of the guacamole RDP server), and am trying to connect to it via localhost:4822, but my browser never gets a response from the server. Any ideas?07:22
Vaniumm..i have both server and desktop version downloaded, at bootup screen is desktop th 24-generic-pae or the 23-generic (on dev/sda1)07:22
DarwinSurvivorVani: is this when booting off the disk?07:23
DarwinSurvivorVani: or when booting the computer by itself?07:23
Vanicomputer by itself07:23
llutz_prophit: you need to configure vm-networking as "bridged" to access it07:23
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trippy3199usdarwinsurvivor: any idea how to recover files.. if the disk isnt recognized ??07:24
DarwinSurvivorVani: ok, so are you trying to install right now, or have you done that already?07:24
llutz_prophit: you try "localhost:4822" from host-system?07:24
Vanialready did that07:24
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: does it show up in /dev?07:24
prophitllutz_: it's already bridged. guacd doesn't serve the page even when I go to localhost:4822 on the VM07:25
DarwinSurvivorVani: so you've installed the desktop version and are being given 2 options when rebooting them machine with the cd/usb removed?07:25
llutz_prophit: ah ok, then check logs why it doesn't run.07:25
DarwinSurvivorprophit: when in bridged mode, the VM will get it's own ip from your router. you need to find out what that IP is and connect to THAT07:25
trippy3199usdarwinsurvivor: nope... its compleatly unrecognized.. on every os i have tried... i think its because the part thats corrupted is the part that contains all the info about the drive itself..07:26
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llutz_prophit: on the vm "sudo lsof -i :4822"   does it list your service?07:26
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: how do you know it has a corrupted sector?07:26
Vaniwell... more like 7 options, but 2 of those are recovery modes, and 2 are memory tests and 1 says prvious linux versions and yeah i removed the cd. but I installed it along side of the server.... i probably should have installed it over it.07:26
DarwinSurvivorVani: is the "pae" one at the top of the list?07:27
Vaniyes07:27
trippy3199usif i use a terminal to try to load it.. it gives me an error claiming a bad sector..07:27
prophitllutz_: yes - guacd07:27
karthick87Ubuntu 12.04 applications menu showing some other language. How do i reset it to default ?07:27
DarwinSurvivorVani: basic rule of thumb when booting ubuntu is to pick the top one. if that doens't work, try the next one and so on :)07:27
Vaniok.07:28
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: how did you try to load it if it's not in /dev/?07:28
llutz_prophit: so its running but not responding. as i said, check logs07:28
DarwinSurvivor!details | trippy3199us07:28
ubottutrippy3199us: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:28
VaniOmg.. i see a purple screen of death...07:28
DarwinSurvivorVani: purple is GOOD!07:28
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DarwinSurvivorVani: that mean's it's booting :)07:28
vladhimhello there!07:28
Vanilol, yeah i know, sorry, was joking07:28
vladhimwhat's up!07:29
trippy3199usi just found it in /dev... sorry about that..07:29
karthick87Ubuntu 12.04 applications menu showing some other language. How do i reset it to default ?07:29
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: ok, what happens if you run "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt"? (replace X and Y appropriately)07:29
DarwinSurvivorkarthick87: has it always been that language since you installed, or did it recently change?07:30
prophitllutz_: I'm not seeing a "messages" file in /var/logs nor any other file that looks like it came from guacd07:30
m90087hello07:30
m90087myip?07:31
vladhimhey, do you know the error, "kernel panic"?07:31
llutz_prophit: grep -ri guacd /var/log                 or check guacd-config where it logs to07:32
Vanithanks for the help, i'm gonna get off now, but if i need anymore help i'll be sure to come back07:32
trippy3199uswhat should i replace XandY with i  found usb-PNY_Tech_USB_2.0_FD_058110501413481800281-0:007:33
trippy3199usin dev07:33
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karthick87DarwinSurvivor: it is changed recently.07:34
Jak2000hi all07:34
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: that's a strange name for it. is this a standard usb drive?07:34
DarwinSurvivorkarthick87: did you install any special language packs or anything?07:35
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Jak2000how to know wich ftp server is installed in my ubuntu server?07:36
llutz_Jak2000: none by default afaik, so if there is one, you installed it and you should know it07:38
Jak2000llutz not know07:40
Jak2000but i know the seerver have a ftp server installed07:40
llutz_Jak2000: "sudo lsof -i :21"07:40
no-name-what's the keyboard shortcut to open terminal?07:40
DarwinSurvivorno-name-: Ctrl+Alt+T07:40
no-name-cheers07:41
ekvright07:41
alFReD-NSHI'm gonna reinstall my ubuntu, need to backup my dotfiles, never done this before. Seen people syncing it to their github account. Any helper script? recommendation?07:41
ekvthere is backup in it already07:41
ekvalFReD-NSH;07:41
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: if you don't know how to use git, don't bother trying to use github.07:42
annexasl07:42
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: just backup your home folder onto an external drive and reinstall07:42
DarwinSurvivor!ot | annex07:42
ubottuannex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:42
alFReD-NSH DarwinSurvivor: I do know how to use, well at least the basic stuff for maintaining a repo...  Just wondering if there's a helper script for something like this or not...07:43
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: people that backup their config files onto github probably just create a git repo in their home folder and add the appropriate files to it.07:43
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: for a reinstall, i'd just copy them to an external drive, much simpler that way07:44
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: also, you may not want some of those files on a public website, some may contain passwords or personal information (ex: .mozilla holds all online passwords and browser history)07:44
alFReD-NSH DarwinSurvivor: Well I've been syncing them to my desktop mac... with the simple copy paste... I recall it tiring. As a programmer I feel bad about that. Also don't worry about that, I know which ones contain passwords. I don't show them to public...07:45
ServerCrashdoes Unity uses compiz ?07:46
ServerCrashby deafual07:46
alFReD-NSHW8! does mozilla hold all the passwords in flat files?07:46
karthick87DarwinSurvivor: No i havenot installed any language packs07:46
Jak2000llutz, i use ssh for ocnnect via FTP?07:46
DarwinSurvivorJak2000: no, ssh and ftp are 100% different protocols, NOT compatible07:47
llutz_Jak2000: no, an ftp-client if your really need to use ftp. think about using sftp, based on ssh07:47
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: they aren't a flat-file, but they ARE easily extracted (you really only need to load the profile and firefox does the extraction for you)07:47
ServerCrashis Compiz enabled by default on Ubuntu ?07:48
ServerCrashis Compiz enabled by default in Ubuntu 11.xx series?07:48
alFReD-NSHServerCrash: should be I assume07:48
Jak2000how to restart sshd service?07:49
alFReD-NSH DarwinSurvivor: true that, never thought about extracting them like that..07:49
llutz_Jak2000: sudo service ssh restart07:49
Jak2000llutz how to ocnnect to FTP via sshd?07:49
llutz_Jak2000: you can't07:49
DarwinSurvivorkarthick87: sorry, I don't know enough about languages to help you at this point (thought it might be something simple). perhaps someone else can help you07:50
DarwinSurvivorkarthick87: also, take a look at http://help.ubuntu.com for some possible answers07:50
DarwinSurvivorJak2000: what is it you are *actually* trying to do?07:50
llutz_Jak2000: you want to use the web to read about different services and their basics before you run any "servers"07:50
DarwinSurvivorJak2000: are you tring to make files available to others, transfer files across computers, download software off a website, backup your computer, etc?07:51
Jak2000yes07:52
DarwinSurvivorJak2000: *which* one?07:52
m90087ubuntu 12.04 is good now07:54
alFReD-NSHAnyone got any irc client better than pidgin?07:54
m90087xchat07:54
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: xchat07:55
wilee-nileeServerCrash, unity runs in compiz.07:55
dr_willismost irc cluents are better then pidgin07:56
wilee-nileealFReD-NSH, I have never used pidgin, but xchat seems to work for me.07:56
wilee-nileethere is iirc as well a cli07:57
DarwinSurvivorwilee-nilee: there are quite a few cli irc clients (I use irssi myself)07:57
alFReD-NSHsaw the screenshots of xchat, not really shiney...07:57
Uncle_hi guys07:58
Uncle_what is the difference between pkill and killall?07:58
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wilee-nileeDarwin4Ever, I am not surprised at the abundance. ;)07:58
alFReD-NSHgot any interesting feature that can make it difference from other clients?07:58
bhull05Hello, I was wondering if anyone was available to help me with a problem I'm having while trying to reformat a laptop into Ubuntu.07:59
llutz_Uncle_: not much difference on linux-systems, basically they do the same job.07:59
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: if you want shinny, irc probably isn't for you :)07:59
DarwinSurvivor!ask | bhull0507:59
ubottubhull05: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:59
Uncle_llutz ok, thx :)07:59
bhull05!patience08:00
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:00
llutz_Uncle_: try it on solaris and you'll see differences ;)08:00
NewWorldUncle_:  I was told to get used to pkill, because on some OSs (I think solaris) killall kills ALL processes08:00
Uncle_well, i am working on ubuntu, so i do not have a chance :)08:00
Uncle_good to know08:00
alFReD-NSH DarwinSurvivor: I can't ask the whole community to go a better system, there's not much wrong with irc , but it seems that a good client can't be found08:01
samueli'm using xchat, that seems pretty good to me, there are also some pretty good web based irc clients too08:01
llutz_alFReD-NSH: start with defining "good client"08:01
DarwinSurvivoralFReD-NSH: you are going to need to define "good". there is no "best" program for *anything*, it all depends on what you want08:01
dr_willisi find xchat and weechat to be very good clients08:01
llutz_alFReD-NSH: but pls use #ubuntu-offtopic for it08:02
samuelon linux mint, which is what i'm on right at this second xchat plonks you directly into their help channel - its just not as lively as this one :D hence i'm here08:02
amh345im trying to get my ssh session to expire when inactive i've put ClientAliveInterval 100 in etc/ssh/sshd_conf but it's done nothing.   am i missing something?08:02
llutz_dr_willis: konversation + irssi :)08:02
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bhull05Hello, I was wondering if anyone was available to help me with a problem I'm having while trying to reformat a laptop into Ubuntu using a USB Drive. I'm receiving erros: udevd[140] and udevd[159] repeatedly.08:02
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: at which point are you receiving those errors?08:03
alFReD-NSHwell you guys are right...08:03
bhull05Darwinsurvivor: I select boot preference to my Sandisk and then the installation menu comes up. I select 'install on harddrive disk' and then a wall of text scrolls by. And these two lines just keep repeating over and over.08:04
trippy3199usdarwinSurvivor: im sorry... my laptop tripped out on me.. im back tho... last i saw was trying something with mounting what i found in /dev/08:04
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: how did you make the usb disk? (unetbootin, dd, etc)08:04
trippy3199usdarwinSurvivor: sorry bout that.. damn computer.. horrible timing..08:05
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199us: ok, so use "sudo mount /dev/whatever-your-device-shows-up-as /mnt" and tell me if you get an error08:05
Jak2000llutz done sith Filezilla i can connect with SFTP (ssh deamon) thx08:07
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: I used the instruction manual on their website. And the program that they suggested. I'm trying to find the link now.08:07
DarwinSurvivorJak2000: what was it you were trying to do?08:07
samueli wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems08:07
Jak2000mount a FTP server08:07
Jak2000done08:07
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: please do post it, it will help a lot08:07
samuelevery time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel08:08
samuelhow can i get rid of that!08:08
DarwinSurvivorJak2000: if you used ssh and sftp, you did NOT use ftp, they are not the same08:08
samueli want it to read something else, like just "desktop"08:08
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/...ick-on-windows08:08
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: your link got "shortended", can you try that again?08:08
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DarwinSurvivorbhull05: there are a few tutorials that match that pattern and some of them are for older versions of ubuntu08:09
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows08:09
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: ok, and what is listed on the first menu you see when booting off of it? (what is the first question)08:10
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: It's called 'Installer boot menu08:11
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DarwinSurvivorbhull05: and what are all hte options?08:12
bhull05DarwinSurvivior: The options are "Run ubuntu from this usb" || "Install ubuntu on a hard disl" || "Test Memory" || "Boot from first hard disk" || "Advanced Options" || "Help"08:12
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trippy3199usmounmissing codepage or helper program, or other error08:12
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: I have selected "Install ubuntu on a hard disl"08:12
trippy3199usmounyou might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program08:13
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: And after about 6 seconds of scrolling texts, those errors just repeat over and over.08:13
trippy3199usmountry dmesg  |  tail or so08:13
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: use "run ubuntu from this usb"08:14
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: is that the output you got?08:14
trippy3199usmounill paste exactly .. one sec08:14
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: use "run", then once you get to the desktop, use the "install" icon on the desktop to do the installation08:16
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: Now it ends in a bug I've encountered before. I made a post on the ubuntu forum which describes the stopping point in detail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198654808:16
trippy3199usmounhttp://pastebin.com/X0crkahV08:16
MacroManI've got an annoying problem that I'm not sure anyone can help me with. About once a week, my computer freezes (but the mouse still moves). My comp is on for 9 hrs a day. There is nothing in syslog or any other log that I've looked at. No errors. Just completey unresponsive.08:17
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: did you get that same error when trying "run" instead of "install"?08:17
tarzeau_MacroMan: does it get hot, as in a fan is not working anymore?08:17
MacroManThere also doesn't seem to be a pattern. I'm usually using a different program when it happens.08:17
tarzeau_MacroMan: could be cpu fan, psu fan, gfx fan, case fan...08:17
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: do you remember what it was formatted to? (fat32, ntfs, ext3, etc?)08:17
MacroMantarzeau_: No, it's a relatively new machine, only 3 months old08:18
tarzeau_MacroMan: new or not, i've seen broken fans in newer machines08:18
MacroManWouldn't that trip a temp alarm?08:18
tarzeau_MacroMan: or not properly connected cables08:18
tarzeau_MacroMan: usually but not always08:18
MacroManCould be. So your thinking more of a hardware problem?08:18
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: Now, the 'Ubuntu' screen came up with the 4 dots underneath, but then the screen froze and it's a giant screen of black and white random bars....08:18
trippy3199usmounits an xbox formatted disk.. so probably fat3208:18
tarzeau_MacroMan: i would consider it, yes08:18
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DarwinSurvivorbhull05: did you try the nomodeset idea that the responder mentioned in the forum post you linked to?08:19
MacroMantarzeau_: Thanks, I'll open my case and see what's going on. Once thing that still bothers me though. Why does the mouse continue to move? It's not like the whole thing is frozen, just my desktop enviroment08:20
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/.... /mnt/"08:20
tarzeau_MacroMan: graphics card driver problem maybe? nvidia or not nvidia card/drier?08:20
tarzeau_MacroMan: i guess that's 1204?08:21
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: I press 'F6' but it doesnt do anything, the screen just flickers. But it opens no promps or ability to 'tick nomodeset'08:22
trippy3199usmoundarwinSurvivor: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-id/usb-PNY_Tech_USB_2.0_FD_05801105010413481800281-0:0 does not exist08:22
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: you need to hit it early in the boot, just keep hitting it over and over again08:22
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: check the /dev/ directory and make sure it is still there08:23
Rav3nI've previously been using ubuntu-desktop, and my pcmia wifi and wired cards were working fine. I recently reinstalled w/ ubuntu-server (11.04, now upgraded to 12.04) and my pcmia cards are not working. When i was using the gui system, I was able to install restricted drivers. Is there any way to install those restricted drivers from command line? I'm currently able to get internet by booting off a livecd and binding and chrooting to my hard drive.08:23
openvoid_i was thinking shift pressed brings boot menu in grub208:23
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: still there.. everyother file has 0 bytes.. but that file has 9 bytes.. for some reason08:24
DarwinSurvivoropenvoid_: good point08:24
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: hold shift while booting until you see a menu asking which kernel to boot, then hit F608:24
openvoid_Rav3n, apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or something same08:25
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: the bite size means very little, they are block devices08:25
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: I got the purple screen with the white 'Ubuntu' letters now and the 5 dots underneath are solid orange for about 2 minutes, nothing moving. Then my screen turns into a serious of black and white bars and squares that appear to be random.08:25
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: to rule out a typo, when you get to "/dev/usb-" hit tab and it should auto-complete the name08:25
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: the menu will be before the purple screen. if you see the purple screen, you missed the menu08:27
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: I've tried holding Shift through the whole boot process but no such menu is generated.08:28
trippy3199usmoundarwinSurvivor: same result08:29
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: ok, try "sudo dd if=/dev/the-device-here of=/home/your-username-here/flashbackup.img"08:31
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: that should make a backup of the device, you may be able to mount *that* instead08:31
amh345how is it possible that im still logged into my server via terminal even after i execute sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop08:33
MacroMantarzeau_: Yes, nVidia. I had trouble with the offical driver so I never installed it. Could that be it?08:33
samueli wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems08:34
samuelevery time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel08:34
samueli want it to read something else, like just "desktop"08:34
DarwinSurvivoramh345: yes, i've seen that happen before. don't rely on it though!08:34
trippy3199usmoundarwinSurvivor: no such file or directory?08:34
MacroMantarzeau_: Just had the cover off. All fans seem to be running fine and it doesn't seem too hot in there.08:34
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DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: weird08:34
amh345DarwinSurvivor: what do you mean dont rely on it?08:34
amh345hah08:34
trippy3199usmoundarwinSurvivor: ill double check everything real quick....08:35
ferniamh345: it just stops the server listening and accepting new connections08:35
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: and you're sure this is a standard off-the-shelf usb flash drive?08:35
CptK00kHi08:35
CptK00khow DO I ZOOM IN WITH BLUEFISH08:35
trippy3199usmoundarwinSurvivor: does it matter that its in /dev/disk/by-id/08:35
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: not some weird memory card that just happens to have a usb port?08:35
CptK00k>:(08:35
DarwinSurvivor!caps08:35
ubottuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:35
trippy3199usmounits a pny 8gb.. pretty common..08:35
amh345ferni: oh. youre right. heh08:35
CptK00koke, how do i zoom in with bluefish08:36
trippy3199usmounits about a year old.. and its really common.. its still on shelves...08:36
CptK00k?????????????08:36
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: ok, just wanted to make sure it wasn't some proprietary xbox thing08:36
DarwinSurvivor!patience | CptK00k08:36
ubottuCptK00k: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:36
amh345im trying to set my server to timeout the ssh session if it's idle for x amount of seconds.   i've put this in sshd_config ClientAliveInterval 30  but it doesnt seem to do anything at all.  any ideas?08:37
bhull05DarwinSurvivor: I keep getting the same issue of the frozen black and white screen. I can't figure out how to get the 'nomodeset' option up though. If you would like to send me a private message and wait until you have others' issues solved, that's fine with me.08:37
CptK00kSo nobody knows how to zoom in with a web editor.08:37
CptK00kwow08:37
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: nope, tho they would do that to us wouldnt they.. i swear they put timers in everything so you have to replace them.. lol..08:37
CptK00khow tragic08:38
samuelCptK00k, try with the built in accessability settings if there is no feature within the program08:38
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: I've never had to use nomodeset myself, I just know that it has helped quite a few users run 12.04.08:38
CptK00k:P08:39
CptK00kyou are kidding me right08:39
DarwinSurvivorbhull05: I probably won't be able to help you more than that forum post did, perhaps somebody else can assist you further08:39
CptK00k?08:39
bhull05Darwin08:39
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: you are not the only person in here getting help. please be patient and allow others that were here before you to be helped08:39
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: i think it might just write to it to much... every level of everygame.. so every ten minutes its rewriting over what was just saved.. the flash memory isnt like the old school memory in NINTENDO games.. it just isnt built right anymore...08:39
bhull05Thanks anyway, take it easy.08:39
nRy_Hi, does anyone know the AMI id for an Ubuntu 12.4 LTS image on Amazon Web Services?08:39
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: in the mean time, try holding Ctrl and using the scrollwheel on your mouse, that's a fairly universal scroll shortcut for browsers08:40
amh345anyone?  ssh ClientAliveInterval does nothing.   how to make it timeout?08:40
samuelor look under the view menu08:40
CptK00ki dont need help i need some information about how to zoom in with this shit, yes i tried holding down ctrl mousewheel but it zooooomsss out nomatter what direction08:40
samuelhave you tried ctrl and +08:41
CptK00kYES i did08:41
chuCptK00k: Please be careful with the language. Remember to keep it family friendly.08:41
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: try scrolling the other way...?08:41
samuelare you using the latest version of bluefish on the ubuntu repositories?08:41
CptK00kdoesnt work08:42
CptK00k:RAGE:08:42
samuelare you using the latest version of bluefish on the ubuntu repositories?08:42
CptK00kyes08:42
samuelit might be worth looking for a ppa with the developers latest version, it might be a bug that has already been fixed but hasnt been updated to ubuntu's repositories, are you using 12.04?08:43
CptK00kargh yes08:43
samuelcheck what version you are using, then go to google and type "bluefish ppa"08:44
DarwinSurvivor!ppa | sam08:44
ubottusam: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge08:44
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: any other suggestions.. or am i basically out of options besides the trash can.. just hate to lose over a year of hard work on my favorite games..08:44
samuelif the version there is lower than your current version, then update08:44
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: does the xbox not keep a local copy of the game saves...?08:44
CptK00kthere is no PPA for bluefish08:44
samuelif the version is the same, then file a bug report08:44
CptK00kARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR08:44
samuelthere is a ppa for bluefish because my colleague is using it to get the latest version even though he is using oneric08:45
trippy3199usmounthey need to make a cloud for xbox saves.. you have to pay for online play anyway.. whats it gunna hurt to include a cloud for save games.. damn microsoft.. exactly why i use ubuntu in the first place..08:45
CptK00kwell enlighten me08:45
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: i guess it could.. but then you can only play on one xbox period.. or everything you do gets lost..08:46
DarwinSurvivorsamuel: PPA's are not officially supported, they are not supposed to be recommended in the #ubuntu channel08:46
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: if there is a local save copy, you could put a new usb drive in and copy to that.08:47
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: I don't have an xbox, but on my PS3 all games are saved locally, then you can manually copy them on/off a usb stick for portability08:47
samuelwell in that case i recommend going here https://launchpad.net/bluefish and filing a bug08:47
trippy3199usmounthere isnt... its all on the usb unfortunatly.. and ps3 is way better... this would be one example of many..08:47
samuelgoing direct to the devs of the project will get you a better answer08:48
CptK00kso you are basicly saying to me that i need to download from a grimey ass PPA instead of the ubuntu directories, in which it clearly is added but doesnt seem to have the most simplistic function of zooming in on some code?08:48
trippy3199usmouni have both.. but i have never ever had an issue with my ps3.. and xbox i have had tons of problems with..08:48
CptK00kFML08:48
samueli didnt write it, no point raging at me08:48
samueli'm not a ubuntu developer08:48
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: samuel is right. bluefish is a fairly obscure browser on ubuntu, so you probably wont' find many people in here that have used it08:48
samueli'm trying very hard not to advise you to get a refund08:49
trippy3199usmounwell except.. my ps3 will not use vga anymore.. after a while it starts to bleed all the colors everywhere.. so i have to use hdmi now..08:49
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: their developers should be able to assist you though08:49
CptK00kCare to give me a alternative?08:49
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: ps3's don't have vga as far as I know (rca, hdmi and that 4-plug one dvd players use)08:49
trippy3199usmouni mean rca.. im sorry08:50
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: there are TONS of browsers. firefox is the default. what features are you looking for (other than zooming)08:50
trippy3199usmounred white yellow..08:50
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: yep, rca08:50
CptK00kITS NOT A BROWSER08:50
CptK00kITS A WEB EDITOR08:51
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: there may be more you can do to recover the drive, but at this point I can't think of anything08:51
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: OH, that bluefish!08:51
morsnowskiCptK00k, stop shouting!08:51
CptK00kShouting? its a chatroom dude , give me a break08:51
DarwinSurvivorCptK00k: hmm, for zooming in there, you'll probably have to go through the menus or something08:51
DarwinSurvivor!caps | CptK00k08:51
ubottuCptK00k: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:51
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CptK00kUppercasing is not shouting alright08:52
CptK00kshouting involves sound waves going through your eardrums08:52
cirustusok guys im new to ubuntu but have a few questions to ask08:52
chuCalm down CptK00k. You understand what they're saying, don't be so pedantic. Remember, people are here to *help* you.08:52
chucirustus: Sure, ask away!08:52
cirustusi have ubuntu 12.0408:53
cirustusnow im trying to connect to my windows share but cant access them08:53
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: thank you tho.. you gave me a few ideas ill tinker around with.. i didnt realize it was showing up in my /dev/ so ill see if i can work with that and the bad sector i error i found.. maybe ill be able to get it eventually.. wish my usb had a light on it so i could tell if im even really reading it.. my system knows its pny and its usb 2.0.. so there is hope..08:53
CptK00kyeah but iam getting pretty p*ssed off, ive spent my whole day fixing stuff instead of making webpages thus money08:53
chuCptK00k: Yep, understandble.08:53
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: one last thing08:53
CptK00ki can understand that for amateurs it sounds fun to tinker with this and that08:54
cirustusnow ive read the forums and they are saying samba had a re-write done08:54
CptK00kbut time == money08:54
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: most usb drives use a separate controller chip to identify it as a usb drive. you can completely mangle the fs itself (write random garbage to every sector) and you should still be able to access it for reformatting.08:54
nvucinichi, is there some project in ubuntu to install  printer on multiple computers at once?  i know about cluster ssh and similar stuff, but gui would be prefered....08:54
cirustusi have a older version of it but its a tar.gz file how do i install it08:54
samuelCptKook, then i suggest you get over to the launchpad page that i linked you to, submit a bug, then go back to the software center and look for annother ide to make your website08:54
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: this makes me think it may not be a bad-sector problem but possibly a hardware problem (loose plug, over-voltaged, etc)08:55
chuCptK00k: Well, now you're getting offtopic. Come to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat.08:55
onosendiWhat's ubuntu's dev channel?08:55
theadminonosendi: #ubuntu-devel08:55
CptK00kOfftopic? what is there offtopic about? iam giving you reasons for my FUCKING RAGE SO YOU DONT GET PISSED OFF AND FKNG KICK ME08:55
onosendithanks08:55
samuelor use ubuntu's accessability feature to zoom in and get on with it instead of wasting precious time complaining to people that 1 you are not paying and 2 have nothing to do with the software you are asking about08:55
chuCptK00k: Well, now you're swearing. I asked you to keep it family-friendly.08:56
theadmincirustus: To mount a Windows share, use: mount -t cifs //your_server/your_share some_directory -o user=your_share_username,password=your_share_password08:56
CptK00kjust saying08:56
dr_williswife likes that compiz zoom feature now that i showed it to her.. must be her fav feature08:56
CptK00kI am not always a douche but today i am08:56
cirustusmy share dont have usernames or passwords attached to them08:56
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurviver: is it worth sending in for $150 is what it may come down to.. they have the equipment to test that..  there otta be some software i can find thru research that will allow my computer to do some of those tests for me tho..08:57
theadmincirustus: Then make it simplier: mount -t cifs //your_server/your_share some_directory08:57
cirustusand thats using terminal correct08:57
theadmincirustus: Yeah, I have no idea how to do it in the GUI (haven't used Unity)08:57
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: that $150 (microsoft support?) will be for fixing the xbox (which is probably 100% functional), they probably won't even try to recover the usb drvie08:57
cirustusok does that use samba or the smb?08:58
theadmincirustus: Err, "samba" and "smb" are the same thing ("smb" is short for "samba")08:58
DarwinSurvivorcirustus: smb *is* samba (short name for it)08:58
cirustusok lol08:58
dr_willisthe nautilus file manager has samba share support .  smb://serverip_or_name/sharename cirustus08:58
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chuCptK00k: As I said, I understand the frustration. But please, if you want help, be patient and polite. People will be *far* more likely to help you.08:59
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: you might have more luck on some xbox channels or forums, there are probably others that have had this happen that might have suggestions for getting your games back08:59
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurviver: i found a USB Flash Drive recovery company that charges 146 for recovery of usb drives.. but im not really wanting to spend 146 for crap i already spend hundreds on in the first place..08:59
cirustusthe only other thing is all my shares are on a nas thats given an ip by dhcp so if a reboot the modem i get new ip address will i have to re mount it everytime i reboot?08:59
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: thats accually great advice.. your probably right08:59
DarwinSurvivorcirustus: set up a static ip on the nas, or get the router to use static-dhcp. NEVER try to set up a nas on dhcp alone!09:00
lpappHi! Is there a script that is run on boot so that I can make sure certain commands, I wish, are executed during the boot ? We have something like /etc/rc.local on Archlinux09:00
morsnowskicirustus, can't you give it a dedicated IP?09:00
dr_williscirustus:  samba is  supposed to handele the names of the server notip. but  it can have issues. I set my router to give static ip addresses to my servers - makes it easier09:00
samueltrippy3199usmoun, try photorec for recovering data from damaged flash drives09:00
nvucinichi, is there some project in ubuntu to install  printer on multiple computers at once?  i know about cluster ssh and similar stuff, but gui would be prefered....09:00
onosendi I'm using mate with marco as my WM. How would I go about getting the geometry of a window when it is closed? It's x, y, w, h, etc?09:00
chulpapp: have you looked for /etc/rc.local on Ubuntu?09:00
theadminlpapp: /etc/rc.local :P It's the good old init thing, it exists almost everywhere09:00
samuelits great for ripping files off any file system and copying them to a target directory09:00
trippy3199usmounsamuel: i tried.. but its not recognizing my drive09:00
dr_willisnvucinic:  its possible the cups web interface/tools may do it. but ive never noticed such a tool/gui09:00
cirustuswell my problem is that its not my nas but my house mates and he wont give it a static ip09:00
lpapptheadmin: heh true09:01
lpappI am dumb and blind ;)09:01
DarwinSurvivorcirustus: then I offically recommend that you smack him upside the head and tell him to :D09:01
nvucinicdr_willis: is there something like "local synaptic" where you can install apps on multiple servers ?09:01
samuelcant you do it by the host name? cirustus09:01
lpappgood to know it is not something distribution specific09:01
dr_willisfindsmb and smbtree can scan thenetwork and show the name/ips of servers. or nmap the network09:01
trippy3199usmounsamuel: it just shows my main hard drive.. and any other usb drives i plug in.. but not the one thats being a terd.. i noticed if i plug it into windows 7.. it just loads unloads loads unloads over and over again...09:02
cirustusi do that anyway be he refuses and if i do it for him i wont be allowed to use the net anymore ect...09:02
dr_willisnvucinic:  i set up a apt-cach-ng server, then just use ssh/scripts09:02
cirustusi can try09:02
nvucinicdr_willis: yeah, i have similar idea :D09:02
theadminlpapp: /etc/rc.conf doesn't exist in Ubuntu though :P09:02
DarwinSurvivortrippy3199usmoun: just had a last thought. try using some rubbing alcohol (99+%) and a q-tip to clean the contacts!09:02
vivien_mHello. xrandr (under Ubuntu 12.04) does not see my external monitor (plugged to VGA) while nvidia-settings sees it. How can I solve that?09:02
chutheadmin: /etc/rc.local though?09:03
CptK00kxorg.conf09:03
DarwinSurvivortheadmin: /etc/rc.local not rc.conf09:03
CptK00k@vivien_m09:03
chuCptK00k: Thank you :)09:03
vivien_mCptK00k: I would not like to write the configuration for that particular monitor in xorg.conf09:03
CptK00kThen Good Luck!09:03
CptK00kHave a nice day09:03
theadminDarwinSurvivor, chu: Please read the conversation more carefully -- He's migrating (or something) from Arch and looks for an alternative to /etc/rc.local (which is still there on Ubuntu, as I did say), however one must be aware that the almighty rc.conf is not there on Ubuntu.09:04
cirustusno it wont let me use the hostname :(09:04
dr_willisrc.totallyrocksthehouse  ;)09:04
dr_williscirustus:  nmap scan the network, or use findsmb or smbtree to get its ip#09:05
vivien_mCptK00k: In a previous installation, I had xrandr detecting everything without any action. Is it possible to write a generic xorg.conf so that xrandr detects any external monitor?09:05
trippy3199usmounDarwinSurvivor: will do that right now.. another good idea... thank you..09:05
CptK00kDo you get a whitescreen or just nothing09:05
CptK00kblackness.....09:05
vivien_mCptK00k: Nothing. xrandr does not list the external monitor at all.09:05
lpapptheadmin: rc.local does not quite work09:05
DarwinSurvivortheadmin: I know, i actually use arch myself.09:05
dr_willisthere is some ubuntu service  i recall thats supposed to help in the finding/maping of servers to their ip for samba09:06
lpapptheadmin: perhaps because the command is relevant to X ?09:06
vivien_mCptK00k: I tried in arandr which sees nothing either09:06
lpapptheadmin: xsetwacom set 12 area 323 242 3815 3663 -> it is for calibrating the touchscreen of the toughbook.09:06
dr_willislpapp:  rc.local cant do X stuff. ;)09:06
theadminlpapp: Uh, yeah, if you want to use X stuff you need to run it from inside X -- try the "Startup Applications" thing09:06
DarwinSurvivor!init | lpapp is this what you are looking for?09:06
ubottulpapp is this what you are looking for?: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto09:06
lpappdr_willis: exactly. This is why I asked now I remember09:06
lpappI tried back then and did not work09:06
lpappI just forgot that situation unfortunately.09:06
CptK00kDoes Xrander load?09:06
alFReD-NSHAnyone got any tool similar to unetbootin for ubuntu?09:07
lpappso prolly an .xsessionrc might work way better09:07
theadminalFReD-NSH: unetbootin has a Linux version and is actually in the Ubuntu repos.09:07
alFReD-NSHWanna put the ubuntu 12.04 iso on usb drive09:07
lpapptheadmin: start application sounds scary09:07
dr_willis.xsession would be a totsally custome X setup - it does not for example run your gnoime desktop AnD the .xsession09:07
vivien_mCptK00k: I do not know what Xrander is. A kernel module? It is not in my kernel module list, apparently.09:08
theadminlpapp: Meh I dunno then. ~/.profile ?09:08
lusersxinitrc / xsession ?09:08
lpappdr_willis: so what is the X way DE agnostically ?09:08
alFReD-NSHtheadmin: I tried it and my usb drive is already connected, but it doesn't show it there09:08
dr_willislpapp:  put a script in the .config/autostart dir09:08
lpapp.xinitrc I used earlier09:08
lizzini just installed ubuntu(12.04) for the first time. how do i tell it to start up in console mode instead of presenting the X login screen?09:08
lpappdr_willis: that looks DE specific09:08
theadminalFReD-NSH: Meh fudge it -- sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu-12.04.iso of=/dev/sdz09:08
dr_willislpapp:  theres tye system wide x configs/scripts that run befor the DE begins for all users09:08
lpappI need an X driven solution so that it is not gonna break with any DEs09:08
CptK00kHow did you install Nvidia drivers?09:08
theadmin!text | lizzin09:08
ubottulizzin: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode09:08
lpappok ok09:09
CptK00kthrough software manager?09:09
dr_willislpapp:  most all the des use the .config/autorun  what de are you using09:09
cirustussmbtree shows me the name but when i try to use the name to connect it says it cant09:09
CptK00kvivian?09:09
lpappdr_willis: is it standardized ?09:09
vivien_mCptK00k: aptitude install nvidia-current09:09
dr_williscirustus:  so use its ip.09:09
CptK00kyh dont do that09:09
cirustusi know the ip address for it and thats the only way i can connect to it09:09
alFReD-NSHtheadmin: /dev/sdz is the usb drive path?09:09
CptK00kyou need to reinstall09:09
dr_willislpapp:  for kde/gnome/lubuntu/xfce/ it is09:09
CptK00kgo download the drivers from nvidia09:09
lpappdr_willis: IOW, what is wrong with ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession ?09:09
lpappdr_willis: those look more standard options.09:09
theadminalFReD-NSH: Yesh, but note it's "sdz", not "sdz1" or some such (drive, not partition!)09:09
CptK00ksave them to Downloads09:09
vivien_mCptK00k: You suggest to install from NVidia sources?09:09
CptK00krename them to something like nvidia.run09:09
dr_willislpapp:  those get ran INSTEAD of the session you select at  the login screen ,09:09
CptK00kdo CTRL+ALT F209:10
lizzintheadmin: thanks09:10
CptK00kCd to Downloads09:10
alFReD-NSHtheadmin: actually on mine is /dev/sdb109:10
dr_willislpapp:  the login screen most likely has a 'custom' iutem that runs those..09:10
cirustusbut thats going to the home folder and typing in the address bar09:10
vivien_mCptK00k: The Ubuntu nvidia package is not reliable?09:10
lpappdr_willis: pardon ?09:10
CptK00kSh nvidia.run09:10
CptK00kohyeah do sudo service lightdm stop first09:10
lpappdr_willis: aren't they run for any login session ?09:10
lpappor even without that ?09:10
dr_willislpapp:  you go to login/lightdm, select unity. .xsession is ignored..09:10
bobweaverCptK00k,  you forgot to tell hom to stop X09:10
CptK00k"sudo service ligthdm stop"09:10
theadminalFReD-NSH: Make that /dev/sdb then09:10
lizzintheadmin: where is the default location for the X11 config file? i cant seem to find it in /etc/X1109:10
dr_willislpapp:  NO they are not. :)09:10
bobweavernm09:10
lpappdr_willis: problem is that with autostart, it is not gonna work for the logic screen09:10
lpappdr_willis: cannot use touch on the login screen etc either09:10
theadminlizzin: It's /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but it does not even exist by default, X autoconfigures most of the time. If you need, you can create one with the sections you need)09:11
vivien_mCptK00k: I have no lightdm, BTW. I installed from mini.iso09:11
dr_willislpapp:  what logic screen? if you want it to run for all users every time on all  possible X setups. you use the  /etc/X init scripts09:11
CptK00kYou cant install nvidia with X server enabled09:11
dr_willislpapp:  sounds like you have to go the /etc/ way.09:11
vivien_mCptK00k: Ok.09:11
lpappdr_willis: ok, let me reword: I would like to get touch work as soon as X up09:11
CptK00kyou have ubuntu right? 12.04 LTS?09:11
lpappdr_willis: X is definitely up for the login screen already.09:11
CptK00kthen you probably have lightdm09:11
vivien_mCptK00k: But why is the Ubuntu package not recommended?09:11
dr_willislpapp:  ccheck the /etc/ X init stuff then, ;) only way i know of09:12
vivien_mCptK00k: Yes, 12.04 LTS09:12
lpappdr_willis: which file in there ?09:12
ASKidwaiHello09:12
ASKidwaiThe installation could have failed because of an error in the corresponding software package or it was cancelled in an unfriendly way. You have to repair this before you can install or remove any further software.09:12
dr_willislpapp:  no idea. id have to explore it. I  bet askubuntu.com has some guides on it09:12
ASKidwaiI get this error, what do I do?09:12
lpappperhaps xorg.conf I guess09:12
ASKidwaiUbuntu 10.0409:12
dr_willislpapp:  no.. not xorg.conf that does not run commands09:12
bobweaverASKidwai,  sudo apt-get -f install09:12
lpappbut is really no script running for the X up ? :o09:12
CptK00kFollow this guide: http://www.moonlitdog.com/nvidia_ubuntu09:12
cirustusis there a way i can have the ip address auto mounted when i loggin09:12
vivien_mCptK00k: No, I started from a bare install and them installed the needed packages. I have no display manager.09:13
CptK00kVivian09:13
lpappdr_willis: sure... but that can be configured how to launch X ...09:13
dr_willislpapp:  theres several X init scripts in /etc/ somewhere.09:13
lpappdr_willis: let me know one09:13
dr_willislpapp:  xorg.conf defines the server layout and other settings. Its possible theres some settings in there that may make it so you dont need those commands09:13
lpappdr_willis: yes, there is09:13
dr_willislpapp:  im not on a ubuntu box. im on my phone at work. so  i cant.09:13
lpappI have checked out the vendor's page09:13
lpappbut a command run would mean less maintenance09:13
lpappeven if not the most precise solution for sure.09:14
vivien_mCptK00k: Ok, but why installing the nvidia drivers again? Is the Ubuntu package known to be buggy?09:14
ASKidwaibobweaver: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  <--- Says the terminal09:14
CptK00kjust do it!09:14
CptK00klike nike would say09:14
dr_willishow retro 1970's09:15
vivien_mCptK00k: You must have a reason ;-)09:15
CptK00kNo time to explain, Get on that horse, The world is at risk09:15
dr_willislpapp:  itss possible theres some lightdm configs that could run the command also. ive not explored lightdm much09:15
dr_willislpapp:  but the console and startx would bypass that.09:16
CptK00kI had exactly one fuck to give, it was my gift to you, Dont you want my single fuck?09:16
cirustusO.o09:16
lpappdr_willis: let us use .xsession then09:16
CptK00k:Insufficient Fucks:09:16
CptK00k40409:16
ASKidwaibobweaver: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.09:16
dr_willislpapp:  a .xsession would not work for the lightdm login screen. only after it09:17
bobweaver!language | CptK00k09:17
ubottuCptK00k: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.09:17
lpappdr_willis: yes, of course09:17
lpappbut I need to get something up asap09:18
ASKidwaiUh, bobweaver, thanks a lot09:18
vivien_mCptK00k: Usually, it is better to install packages, that are supported and updated. Installing from nvidia script must be justified somehow. The Ubuntu package is known to be bad?!09:18
bobweaverASKidwai,  not sure to tell you the truth look up that command I would say ?09:18
* ASKidwai was a bit stupid lol09:18
ASKidwaiYeah, it worked09:18
CptK00kWhy y ask so many questions?09:18
dr_willislpapp:  look in /etc/X11 NOTICE A xsessions.d full of scripts? ;)09:18
bobweaverGreat to here ASKidwai09:18
ASKidwai:D09:18
vmiheetI have installed llvm package using apt09:18
dr_willisit pays to expore /etc/09:18
vivien_mCptK00k: Because I want to understand! possibly to advice people later.09:18
vmiheetThe package has suffixed binaries like llvm-3.009:18
lizzintheadmin:  i would like to try xmonad. happen to know of any docs i can read to familiarize myself w/ 12.04 + lightdm  and unity? i really am not sure how all of these are connected. i have xmonad installed and the various install docs say to add 'exec xmonad' to ~/.xinitrc. but that alone is not doing it. what should i look into?09:19
vmiheetI want to add such suffix in manual build09:19
chulizzin: Do you boot to a login screen?09:19
lpappdr_willis: I think that is a bad way of doing this09:19
theadminlizzin: .xinitrc is onky ran when you do "xinit" manually honestly, if you use a desktop environment you should deal with this desktop environment's startup respectively.09:19
CptK00kIts because the nvidia drivers are proprietary software and nvidia does things right,09:20
lpappdr_willis: somewhat annoying the vendor's configuration util does not have a "store permanently" option.09:20
dr_willislpapp:  i think thats the 'designed' way for doing X setup stuff09:20
dr_willisor the xorg.conf file09:20
lpappdr_willis: not according to the vendor's wiki to say the least.09:20
chulizzin: There are a few things we can do here: a) Add `xmonad' to the login manager; b) disable the login manager.09:20
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vivien_mCptK00k: nvidia-current-updates will not do the job?09:20
CptK00kNO!09:20
lpappdr_willis: "Of course you can also apply the coordinates statically to the wacom.conf in xorg.conf.d or to the xorg.conf using: "09:20
theadminCptK00k: Nvidia doesn't do things right? Tell me about it! ATI drivers require Xorg 1.11, jeebus, took me ages to figure out how to downgrade.09:21
bobweavervivien_m,  can wew see a paste of  lspci -nn | grep VGA09:21
bobweaverwe *09:21
lpappdr_willis: tbh, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d did not work for me09:21
lpappunsure why09:21
CptK00kWe agree to disagree, i rather have some sort of OpenGl support then them nouveau boyz09:21
vivien_m01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [Quadro NVS 4200M] [10de:1056] (rev a1)09:21
CptK00kGhetto Fabolous for sure09:21
vivien_mbobweaver: just one line09:21
bobweavervivien_m,  there is no driver with xorgers or frsh crack for that  ?09:22
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bobweavervivien_m, do you know what that is ?09:22
vmiheetI have installed llvm with apt. The llvm binary has suffix like llvm-3.0 I want to add such suffix to the binaries build manually with ./configure && make... Can someone help me?09:22
lpappdr_willis: do you know what they mean by the "--xconf" switch ? http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/xsetwacom/09:22
lpappthat does not display anything I could just redirect into the xorg.conf...09:23
vivien_mbobweaver: lspci just shows the card, I believe09:23
bobweavervivien_m,  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates09:23
CptK00klawl i gave you the solution for your problem vivien_m09:23
bobweavervivien_m,  Bledding edge one https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa09:23
CptK00kwhat do you want?09:23
CptK00kmore fucks?09:23
jattban09:23
CptK00ki dont have any09:23
vivien_mbobweaver: lsmod show nvidia running. nvidia-settings does detect the external monitor09:23
FloodBot1CptK00k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:23
lizzinchu: i am currently booting to the std 12.04 login screen09:23
chulizzin: Yeah, so you ignore the .xinitrc (by going to the login manager).09:24
chuSo, couple of choices: Do you want to *keep* the login manager, and select `xmonad' from there. Or do you want to boot to TTY, login and `xmonad' is launched then?09:25
bobweavervivien_m,  can we see a lsomod && apt-cache policy dump nvidia09:25
vmiheetI have installed llvm with apt. The llvm binary has suffix like llvm-3.0 I want to add such suffix to the binaries build manually with ./configure && make... Can someone help me?09:25
emrhello, i'm trying add ip address to /etc/network/interfaces, but getting Ignoring unknown interface eth0:1=eth0:109:25
theadminvmiheet: Will need to edit the Makefile and change the compilation output (one way I can think of)09:26
lizzinchu: preferably the latter. but it would be nice to know how to bring back the login screen at some point if wanted09:26
vmiheettheadmin: is there a simple option ot pass to ../configure?09:26
chulizzin: Alright. Cool beans. Could we continue this in a private query window? (I don't want to clog up the channel)09:27
theadminvmiheet: "configure" is a manufacturer-supplied script, and I don't use llvm and never built it from source, so I wouldn't know -- try ./configure --help09:27
vivien_mbobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006147/09:27
vivien_mbobweaver: I added "apt-cache policy dump nvidia-current" too at the end09:27
lizzinchu: sure09:27
vmiheettheadmin: Thank you so much, I'll try09:28
bobweavervivien_m,  thanks looking now09:28
DarwinSurvivorvivien_m: c00k has been kicked, he was giving you bad advice (I just got back from a break)09:28
DarwinSurvivorvivien_m: please do use the drivers that are available in the repositories09:28
DarwinSurvivor!nvidia | vivien_m09:29
ubottuvivien_m: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto09:29
vivien_mDarwinSurvivor: Yes, thank you. That was my thinking!09:29
donnaRhey i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and for some reason my wireless adapter stops transmitting packets, any help?09:29
DarwinSurvivor!details | donnaR09:29
ubottudonnaR: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:29
donnaRyeah i just did09:29
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: "stops transmitting packets" is a VERY specific conclusion, how did you reach it?09:30
FuchsdonnaR: details would be: what wireless adapter with what driver, how does that error show itself?09:30
donnaRrun tcpdump09:30
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: it's like saying your car's not sending power through the transmission...09:30
donnaRwatchthe packets stop every 2-5mins09:30
donnaRwell i did a quick google search and the problem is common, thought i come here poitn me out a guide09:31
tarzeau_MacroMan: yeah probably, i'd use the official driver09:31
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: do you have any other wireless devices you can test with your router?09:31
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donnaRDarwinSurvivor, well the adapter works fine, i really dont know whats wrong right now i'm using a script that restarts the adapter every 5 min09:34
vivien_mThis is strange that nvidia-settings see the monitor, but not xrandr. :-()09:35
dr_willisxrandr i think cant be used with nvidia drivers, you use the nvidia tools09:35
dr_willisbut xrandr works with the  opensoured nvidia drivers09:36
vivien_mdr_willis: Before Ubuntu 12.04, I was using xrandr all time with nvidia proprietary drivers09:36
dr_willisat least i think thats what ive read i always use the nvidia tools09:36
dr_willisvivien_m:  i dont recall xrandr ever working for me with nvidia drivers/twinview09:36
dr_willisunless thers some limited set of functions that work09:36
vivien_mdr_willis: Maybe I was lucky then. I was working all time perfectly for me.09:37
vivien_mdr_willis: dual, rotation, etc.09:37
dr_willisi really havent needed xrandr much,  the rotation i belive does not work if using twinview09:37
vivien_mdr_willis: Can one write a script with nvidia tools? Like with xrandr?09:37
dr_willisat least you cant rotate one display, both or nothing09:37
dr_willisvivien_m:  havent really looked into them in ages.09:38
iceroot_dr_willis: just fyi if you are interested,  related to my nvidia optimus issue yesterday. nvidia-current is not able to handle optimus-cards so you have to use "bumblebee-nvidia" from a ppa, then everything is working fine09:38
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: can you try the adapter in another computer to rule out a hardware problem?09:38
vivien_mdr_willis: So you have a static configuration?09:38
dr_willisthe nvidia docs on their drivers at one time was very big. :) i read it once years back09:38
dr_willisvivien_m:  yep. i rarely move/remove monitors.09:38
donnaRwell it works fine under windows09:38
donnaRso it must be a driver problem09:38
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: ok09:39
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: what brand + model is it09:39
lpappso what is the difference between .xinitrc and .xsessionrc ?09:39
dr_willisiceroot_:  i dont even recall you mentioniong it was using optimus. :) i stay away from optimus..09:39
vivien_mdr_willis: Ok. Static configuration is easy. nvidia tools are good for that. But when you can have different external monitors, this is a different story.09:39
dr_willislpapp:  i thought .xinitrc has been superceded by .xsession   not seen a .xsessionrc09:40
iceroot_dr_willis: maybe i forgot to mention it :) optimus is a nice feature i think :)09:40
dr_willisvivien_m:  twinview changes require a X restart ive seen to work properly. so that may be an issue.09:40
dr_willisi always use twinview, rarely xinerama09:40
lpappdr_willis: Source global environment variables.  This  script  will  source anything  in  $HOME/.xsessionrc  if  the  file  is present.09:41
dr_willisiceroot_:  the way nvidia has treated the linux world with respect to optimus drivers.. makes me lean towards a laptop with intel video next time09:41
dr_willislpapp:  so things like EDITOR=foo go in there?09:42
donnaRDarwinSurvivor, ah to hell with it i'll put another distro09:42
lpappdr_willis: there is even such an xsession stuff in /etc/X11/Xsession.d: 40x11-common_xsessionrc09:42
dr_williswell sourced means it gets ran. :)09:42
lpappdr_willis: nope09:42
lpappdr_willis: it is a script09:42
lpappso anything that a script can handle09:42
lpappincluding custom command like in my case09:42
Tensotuhow do you untar a .tar.gz file from command line?09:42
iceroot_dr_willis: the only reason i bought this laptop was diablo 3, so intel VGA is the solution for me :( everything else is of course intel VGA and not nvidia/amd09:42
iceroot_is not09:43
dr_willissource fooscript  -: the commands in the script get ran as if you had typed them in  - be sure to not block the exectution of following commands09:43
DarwinSurvivordonnaR: have you tried the "binary drivers" utility to see if there are any special drivers for it?09:43
dr_willisiceroot_:  i will pass  on D3. ;)09:43
iceroot_dr_willis: great misstake :)09:43
lpappdr_willis: so you learned today what .xsessionrc is ;)09:43
Tensotudr_willis: mooege ftw?09:44
dr_willisiceroot_:   i will pass on anything by bblizzard for the foreseeable future. due to the companies past practices.09:44
dr_willisplus i got skyrim to play09:44
vivien_mTensotu: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz09:44
Tensotuthank you vivien_m09:44
dr_willislpapp:  no idea of anything i would ever need to put in it.09:44
iceroot_dr_willis: i respekt your opinion, i am doing the same for other company/products09:44
elainhello,everyone09:44
lpappdr_willis: any X configuration...09:44
lpapplike touch on essentially any device not calibrated well by default ec...09:45
lpappetc*, quite wide range tbh ;)09:45
dr_willislpapp:  you mean any commands.09:45
vivien_mdr_willis: Can you rotate in nvidia-settings? I cannot find the option!09:45
lpappdr_willis: yes, you can configure X with commands..09:45
dr_willisvivien_m:  i think you can. ive rarely needed to. and with twinvieew you can rotate both monitors or none.09:45
vivien_mdr_willis: I deactivated the laptop screen, activate the external monitor. But no rotation option, as far as I can see.09:46
dr_willisvivien_m:  no idea then. i rarely rotate. ;) except to read comic books09:47
dr_willisrotateing displays was a big thing for a while it seemed.. but now its not as common. perhaps becuse people are now watching videos instead of reading documents. ;)09:47
vivien_mdr_willis: Probably Option "RandRRotation" "true" needed in xorg.conf09:47
elainsd09:48
dr_willisor playing mame arcade games.. i rotated for that once ages ago09:48
vivien_mdr_willis: It happens I am still working. ;-) So I prefer the paper shape over the movie shape!09:48
MerwinHi. How can I search for all files under a directory which contains some text ? (I can't find how to do this in Nautilus, Ctrl+F only works for file names)09:49
djszapidr_willis: .xsessionrc worked oob09:49
dr_willisvivien_m:  next new feature in monitors will be... Square monitors!09:49
djszapidr_willis: do you know if I can remove the top bar on the default 12.04 Ubuntu installation ?09:49
dr_willisdjszapi:  for the login screen or after login?09:49
vivien_mWhere is xorg.conf?09:49
djszapiI would like to use my application (customer) only with a launcher icon on the desktop09:49
dr_willisdjszapi:  unity needs that too bar09:49
dr_willisuse a differnt window manager if you want more customization09:50
dr_williswith a siimple panel perhaps09:50
djszapidr_willis: after login since it was $HOME/.xsessionrc, but that is fine for now until the vendor replies.09:50
dr_willisor check out the various koisk type setups09:50
djszapiyou mean "kiosk" ?09:50
djszapiwell, why would Unity need that bar ?09:51
djszapiif I would not like to see that as a customer ?09:51
dr_willisdjszapi:  now in gdm. there WAS a gdm user that Might have their own .Xsessionrc that would run for gdm when it starts.. but I dont know if lightddm has that. or if the new gdm in 12.04 still has it..09:51
djszapiI am not saying this should be autohidden, but I would like to be able to turn that off.09:51
dr_willisdjszapi:  the apps menus appear there.09:51
djszapidr_willis: I know what that is for ;)09:52
djszapidr_willis: I also know what I would like to have.09:52
dr_willisunity may not be the best window manager for your needs.09:52
djszapiWhat is the simplest and fastest way to get a desktop _only_ where I have only one icon for launching the dedicated application.09:52
dr_willisyou could run openbox and a single dock like wbar.09:52
dr_willisor just set the ap to run and keep reruning when closed09:53
djszapidr_willis: that would not hide the top bar.09:53
dr_willisyou dont want to go the 'no window manager route' because that can cause issues with file requestors and other dialogs09:53
dr_willisdjszapi:  you are refering to the unity panel at the top with the cock and stuff? thast would not be there if you are not using unity at all09:54
djszapidr_willis: :( I did remove the launcher on the left side. Can that cause any troubles ?09:54
dr_willisclock ;)09:54
djszapi:p09:54
dr_willisdjszapi:  the left side panel again. is part of unity09:54
djszapidr_willis: ok... rewording: I made that autohide....09:54
dr_willisuse somthing other then unity = no left side or top panels..09:55
dr_willisunless the wm you are using has somthing similer.09:55
dr_willisYou could use icewm and make its  bottom panel hide, and just have a single app in its menus/quick launch bar09:56
dr_willisdozens of ways you could do it.09:56
djszapidr_willis: again, I did already autohide that.09:56
djszapiI presume, that can cause no issues.09:56
dr_willislauncher hideing is common ;)09:56
djszapidr_willis: iirc, it was even the default earlier times...09:57
dr_willisi always set it to nevver hide back then09:57
ggherdovHi all. I just "switched user", logged in with the new user, and I have a blank screen. What can I do? apart from don't panicking, which isn't that easy (reboot is not an option). CTRL+ALT+F{1,2,3,...,12} doesn't do anything.09:57
VMERSINTOwhat language is k3b written in?09:57
Tensotuanything wrong with this command? mv -Tf /etc /09:57
djszapiVMERSINTO: C++/Qt/KDE09:57
VMERSINTOno way09:58
VMERSINTOlol09:58
arianaggherdov, startx09:58
ariana:)09:58
dr_willisTensotu:  what are you trying to do?09:58
Tensotumerge that etc with /etc09:58
ggherdovariana: if I had a shell. but I don't.09:58
VMERSINTOdjszapi : its a combination of all three?09:59
ggherdovariana: blank screen. Keyboard is... ignored.09:59
djszapiKDE depends on Qt, Qt is a C++ framework...09:59
djszapidr_willis: thanks for your help!09:59
dr_willisdjszapi:  simplest way to do your thing may be to use jwm and just define a single launcher app for its panel  you can then autohide10:00
VMERSINTOdjszapi : I am a comp sci student using kubuntu doing c++ right now that why i was kind of shocked when you said that10:00
dr_willisjwm is also the ligtest wm ive seen10:00
Tensotudr_willis: merge that etc with /etc10:00
dr_willisVMERSINTO:  kde uses QT so whats so shocking10:00
dr_willisTensotu:  i alwyas cheat and use 'mc' for tasks like that10:01
VMERSINTOdr_willis : I havent learned about frameworks yet10:01
Tensotumc?10:01
VMERSINTOdr_willis : I am just seeing where c++ shows up10:01
dr_willis!info mc10:01
ubottumc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.1-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 500 kB, installed size 1279 kB10:01
* dr_willis runs away from C++10:01
Tensotuyea.. no GUI lol10:01
dr_willisluckly i  dont code.10:01
samueli wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems10:02
samuelevery time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel10:02
samueli want it to read something else, like just "desktop"10:02
dr_willisi thought 'ubuntu' was the pcs name/hostname10:02
VMERSINTOis python more versatile than c++10:02
ggherdovariana: EDIT: I was wrong. It is just damn slow. It is swapping like crazy (about 1 GB).10:02
hrwhi10:02
hrwdoes someone produced openvpn client keys using https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html doc?10:03
dr_willisbut python's core is written in.....  so that dosent make sence. ;)10:03
VMERSINTOdr_willis : I am just confused10:03
dr_willisVMERSINTO:  ;) yep. i think so.10:04
samuelunfortunately not, i looked in /etc/hostname and it just reads the name of the pc10:04
samuelnothing about ubuntu10:04
dr_willissamuel:  so whats your pcs hostname?10:04
ActionParsnipsamuel: that is what the file is for10:04
kouranhey guys, i am running a 3.2.0-generic ubuntu and need to compile c++ code for our cluster running a 2.6.18 kernel. any1 know how to cross compile this?10:05
samuelyes, i'm happy with the hostname, i only want to change what it says from the desktop10:05
dr_willissamuel:  so you rhostname is not 'ubuntu' ?10:05
samuelyes, thats right10:05
samuelin 12.04 it appears that when you have no active windows, the top panel reads "ubuntu desktop"10:06
samueli want to change it for the purposes of debranding10:06
dr_willisif nautilus is showing icons on the desktop... i wonder hos you have no active windows... ;)  may have to test thata10:07
samueli have previously been using a different distro which came with debranding but it seems that since 11.10 they havnt bothered, which is a problem for me10:07
dr_willisDeBrandBuntu10:08
samuelyes i mean apart from the icons, i mean when you first log in, before you have loaded anything it just says "ubuntu desktop" that is obviously a problem if you cannot ship ubuntu vanilla for legal reasons10:08
ActionParsnipkouran: could grab the liveCD ISO with that  kernel and chroot to it10:08
ActionParsnipsamuel: you can ship vanilla ubuntu10:08
samuelnot with proprietary software preinstalled10:08
ActionParsnipsamuel: thats not vanilla then is it...10:08
* dr_willis head spins..10:09
melvincvHow may I paste long numbers as it is in Libreoffice Calc? Like 1337939029482927020210:09
samuelwe have previously been using linux mint, but the changes in their desktop shell means inconsistancies with the interface - unity offers the best for that10:09
samueli have tried debrandbuntu but it does not load the 12.04 iso10:09
* dr_willis just made up the name DeBrandbuntu ;) never heard of it befor10:10
samuelbesides, this is surely something that is in a config file somewhere, it cant be in compiled code can it??10:10
dr_willissamuel:  with unity  and gnome - yes it can be compiled in.10:10
kouranActionParsnip: my current approach is simmilar, i'm running a vm in background that i use for compilation.  just thought maybe there is a better way in ubuntu.  in gentoo you could have multiple kernel sources alongside each other and tell gcc against which libraries to compile the code. but since those were tool i don't really know how to do that without them.10:10
auronandacesamuel: let me get this straight, you want to remove the branding and make a derivative?10:11
samuelits more about the desktop shell than it is about the distro, i want to use the unity desktop without falling foul of canonical's no proprietary software rule10:11
auronandacesamuel: what's stopping you?10:12
samuel"ubuntu desktop"10:12
samuelapart from that there is no other sign of it, i have even removed the circle of friends logo from the launcher10:13
auronandacesamuel: so am i right in concluding you want to make a derivative of ubuntu?10:13
edwinkcwHello, I have a zip file which is zipped under windows. I try unzip it under ubuntu, I found that the file seperator is wrong, which destroy the file hierarchy. How can I solve that?10:13
samuelderivative distro's are particularily unhelpul when it comes to advice over the configuration of unity, even if its work that they have previously done10:13
dr_willisedwinkcw:  what file seperator?10:13
auronandacesamuel: so what is the point of debranding unless you want to create a derivative?10:14
edwinkcwdr_willis: linux uses /, but I view the files in the zip, it uses \10:14
MerwinHow can I search for all files under a directory which contains some text ? (I can't find how to do this in Nautilus, Ctrl+F only works for file names)10:14
samueli dont want to change anything about ubuntu except for the branding, but i want to use the unity shell because the interface must be a) free sub menu's and b) work with or without graphics accelleratin and still retain its look10:14
edwinkcwdr_willis: after unzipping, the file becomes sth like folderA\folderB\a.txt10:14
dr_willisedwinkcw:  cant say ive ever seen that in a zip. You could always try winzip in wine i guess.10:15
auronandacesamuel: because...10:15
dr_willisedwinkcw:  or make a vfat filesystem in a file  mount it via loopback and unzip it in there..10:15
dr_willisedwinkcw:  or try one of the fuse-archive filesystems..10:15
edwinkcwdr_willis: which is a library called phpexcel, I just download it10:15
dr_willisi wonder how wine would do it.10:16
samuelwe dont distribute our software like a linux distro, once the alterations are made that make our software workable on the computer, it is kept as an iso or img and then written directly to the hardware and sold like that10:16
dr_willisim not at home so i cant test any of this edwinkcw  im just thinking of things to try10:16
ActionParsnipsamuel: then that'sfine afaik with the GPL etc10:16
edwinkcwdr_willis: ok10:16
samuelwhen you say derivative, thats like making your own distro, i'm not interested in doing that, i'm only interested in creating a suitable running environment for my software10:17
auronandacesamuel: ah, so you are making a derivative then, since you are redistributing it with hardware10:17
auronandacesamuel: that is beyond the scope of this channel10:17
dr_willisim not sure why removing ubuntu makes it suddenly ok..10:18
samuelis there no specific  channel just for unity?10:18
auronandacedr_willis: i don't think it does10:18
dr_willisauronandace:  but im not a laywer.. but i bet the people in #GPL may know10:18
samuelwell it means i can use a derivative distro and apply the same fix to it10:18
samuelthe problem is, linux mint have stopped removing the ubuntu branding from unity10:19
VX1hi, is there some easy way to do multiseat for 12.04 ?10:19
auronandacesamuel: mint doesn't use unity and isn't supported here either10:19
dr_willisVX1:  from what i hear lightdm supports multiseat. saw some artical onit on  the webupd8 blog site a month or 2 ago10:19
samuelits in their repo's, and its unmodified10:19
ActionParsnipsamuel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93688/can-i-legally-build-and-sell-desktops-with-ubuntu-pre-installed    I'd contact the OEM services team and check. You may ust be able to fling the proprietary stuff on and be ok.10:20
samuelits the same unity that you get in ubuntu10:20
auronandacesamuel: then you'd need to ask for help in the mint channel10:20
samueli have already tried that10:20
samuelit seems they dont offer help on all the packages in their own repo's10:21
dr_willisVX1:  there was some new/cheap multiseat hardware comming out also that aparently works out of the box with redhat, and ubuntu was being worked on next10:21
VX1well is there an alternative to multiseat ?10:21
dr_willisVX1:  clarify exactly what you want to do10:21
VX1well i got a bunch of people coming over tomorrow, so i want to plug a bunch of keyboard/mouse to my comp and have a small lan party10:22
dr_willisVX1:  no extra monitors?10:22
VX1ofcourse10:22
dr_willisyou need some way of driveing those monitors..10:23
ActionParsnipsamuel: userful is ok http://userful.com/products/userful-multiseat-linux10:23
dr_williswere those the guys selling the $50 mmultiseat adaptors..   you just add your own keyboard/mouse ;)10:24
dr_willisand monitor10:24
sam1967my alt-tab is no longer working . any ideas ?10:24
dr_willisi think they even used usb. so you could have a lot on a low end pc10:25
VX1well i can plug it in directly, gonna get a usb hub though for the k/m so its not too far from the pc10:25
VX1just want to be able to set it up quickly10:25
* nathan20081 the first time to use irc10:25
* nathan20081 is ubuntu popular in your country?10:27
auronandacenathan20081: this is a support channel, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic10:27
* nathan20081 thanks10:28
auronandacenathan20081: also irc basics in #freenode (you seem to be using /me a lot)10:28
nathan20081this is new to me10:29
anggamovic?10:31
serdotlinHello, I've done compiling kernel 3.4, something went wrong, how do I switch back to kernel 3.2?10:32
branantserdotlin: Keep compiling until you get it right! ;-)10:40
serdotlinbranant, is there a way to get my default ubuntu kernel 3.2, i know you have to press shift button. But I want kernel 3.2 as a default, please help me!!!10:42
serdotlinbranant: is there a way to get my default ubuntu kernel 3.2, i know you have to press shift button. But I want kernel 3.2 as a default, please help me!!! How  to remove 3.4 from grub menu entry?10:43
branantserdotlin: Try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:43
branantserdotlin: If I am right, this will get you back the default kernel. Once you are running it, do "sudo apt-get autoremove" and that will remove the other, unused kernels10:45
serdotlinbranant: i'm compiling on my netbook...it was painful...10:47
branantserdotlin: I know, but it doesn't get any more fun then that!10:48
khmerog_grrrr...kubuntu doesnt work with my HD 6870 card10:48
khmerog_depressing..10:49
serdotlinbranant: at login screen, i cannot use the touchpad...after login, resolution was terrible and no mouse cursor and touchpad...10:49
branantkhmerog:  Did you try to install ATI proprietary driver?10:49
branantserdotlin: Is there a way you can get to the terminal?10:50
khmerog_no i didnt branant10:51
serdotlinbranant: i'm using kernel 3.2 now...unity is working...sure10:51
khmerog_do u think that will work?10:51
branantkhmerog_: I am sure it usually works for nVidia cards. I am pretty sure it will work here too10:52
serdotlinbranant: but i have to press shift button to select 3.2...waiting for dist-upgrade now...10:53
serdotlinbranant: which terminal output do you want to see?10:53
branantserdotlin: uname -a10:53
khmerog_haha nevermind i figured it out10:54
khmerog_i just had to change the screen resolution10:54
serdotlinbranant: Linux precise 3.2.0-23-generic-pae10:54
khmerog_i went to the wrong place to do that10:54
ngomeshello , im having trouble upgrading from 11.10 to 12.0410:54
branantserdotlin: ok that's cool, now run sudo apt-get autoremove10:55
ngomesE:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.10:55
ngomesthis is the error10:55
fastaHow do I enable window previews for minimized and non-minimized applications in Unity?10:55
branantkhmerog_: I think you should still install the latest and greatest driver from ATI! ;)10:56
donnaRhey, does restarting your pc using shutdown cause files to disappear and disk damage?10:56
donnaRshutdown  the command that is10:56
branantdonnaR: No.10:56
fastaI enabled the window previews via compiz, but that only shows it for the currently active application (not even applications).10:56
datruthis there away to enable a proxy system wide?10:58
donnaRstrange it just rm'd my .bashrc twice in a row10:58
donnaRtime for xubuntu i guess10:58
fidel_donnaR: who is 'it'10:58
serdotlinbranant: look at this screenshot>http://imgur.com/JP8gP11:00
ngomeshello ?? any help ?11:01
[DeVil-BoY]tambem quero help11:01
[DeVil-BoY]ops wrong channel11:02
ngomescalou br11:02
khmerog_hi11:02
khmerog_i am having troubles installing kubuntu11:02
khmerog_can i ask it here or do they have their own channel?11:02
fidel_khmerog_: just ask11:02
fidel_kubuntu is nothing else then ubuntu using KDE ...so go for it ;)11:03
khmerog_do i make a partition before installing kub?11:03
fidel_khmerog_: the installer should analyse the situation of your disks and offer several options11:04
khmerog_when i do, during the installation it wont let me use that partition. instead it gives me a slider to let me choose how much space i want to use for kub BUT it doesnt let me use the drive i just partitioned11:04
fidel_some tend to be without user-input - some offer manual fiddling11:04
MonkeyDustkhmerog_  yes, use fdisk to that end -- start by typing sudo fdisk -l to get an idea11:04
khmerog_which is okay but now that drive i just partition is not usuable or i canot even extend it back to the windows 7 drive11:04
legend2440hello, i am using ubuntu 12.04. can someone tell me where you set behavior for things like when you put in a cd or dvd and you can set options like open or do nothing?11:05
khmerog_sudo fdisk -111:05
MonkeyDustkhmerog_  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l (l stands for list)11:05
fidel_legend2440: some default applications can be defined using 'System Settings'11:06
jobinarlegend2440,  I use Ubuntu 11.10, i have it in the system settings11:06
legend2440ok thanks11:06
jobinaru have an icon there "removable media"11:06
GoodByeMegatonhello11:08
GoodByeMegatonwhere can i adjust a defaults for wpa_supplicant in addiction to network-manager ? i need to set there scan_ssid=1 for all connections11:08
khmerog_what software do u use to uninstall a linux OS while keeping windows 7? everythime i uninstall (usually just delete the drive linux is on  :P)  i get a boot, grub error11:10
MonkeyDustkhmerog_  use a live cd, it installs the distro neatly alongside your windows installation11:10
fidel_khmerog_: well basically you wouldnt need grub anymore as well if you jump back to a windows7 only setup11:11
MonkeyDustkhmerog_  to uninstal, just delete the linu parttion11:11
MonkeyDustlinux*11:11
khmerog_like i said MonkeyDust i have done that many times and each time i get a boot up error MBR or Grub error one of them11:12
serdotlinsomebody show me how to remove kernel 3.4> here the screenshot> http://imgur.com/JP8gP11:12
khmerog_so there is no app out there that neatly removes any OS11:12
khmerog_live cd = wubi?11:12
fidel_khmerog_: in worst case - you'll need to repair the mbr afterwards11:12
MonkeyDustkhmerog_  have you used wubi to install?11:13
fidel_khmerog_: but it might help to see the actual error you really get11:13
khmerog_i have used wubi the first time i ever installed Ubuntu yes (11.xx) but ppl here say WUBI is bad bad idea11:13
khmerog_but now i usually either do the manual installation or use the slider to determine how much space i want to use11:14
khmerog_i love the slider option but not all distro has it..which is unfortunate11:14
MonkeyDustkhmerog_  wubi is about the worst invention since the atomic bomb, but anyway, to uninstall, just delete it in windows11:14
datruthAnyone know?11:14
jobinardatruth, what was ur question? Can u repeat?11:15
khmerog_lol monkeydust11:15
pfifodatruth, yes, HTTP_PROXY variable11:16
khmerog_wubi is very simple to use to install but why is it bad?11:16
khmerog_or what makes it bad?11:16
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jobinarwubi installs ubuntu "over" windows, that's y i think11:16
pfifodatruth, but some programs dont respect it (like web browsers)11:17
auronandacejobinar: inside, not over11:17
datruthhrmm11:17
Wizardkhmerog_, Wubi creates Ubuntu images as normal files on NTFS.11:17
WizardThat's why.11:17
datruthjobinar: wanted to know how to set system wide proxy11:17
datruthpfifo: where is the HTTP_PROXY var?11:17
jobinarauronandace, ya, my mistake11:17
WizardWubi is evil ]:->11:17
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jobinarWizard, does it, really?11:18
jobinarso how does the execution of programs take place?11:18
jobinarsince linux, i heard, executes only on ext partitions11:18
WizardIt creates partition image on Windows drive and set's up Grub4DOS.11:19
WizardSo, The image is being mounted as root during boot, that's all.11:19
WizardNo magic.11:19
WizardBut you can't rely on NTFS, since it was implemented mostly by reverse engineering, AFAIK.11:20
kubanci have a question about phoca and picasa. Is the authentication key with or without char '#' ?11:20
jobinarWizard, but if the files are stored on NTFS partition, how can u execute ur programs on NTFS partition? Does linux support execution on NTFS>11:20
Wizardjobinar, files aren't stored on NTFS.11:20
WizardWhole partition image is.11:21
auronandacejobinar: wubi makes an image file that is stored on the ntfs partition11:21
WizardOne, big file with EXT4 or whatever FS.11:21
jobinarauronandace, then is the image running on NTFS partition?11:21
auronandacejobinar: think of it as a virtual disk11:22
Wizardjobinar, However, I still don't recommend using Wubi.11:22
auronandacejobinar: the image file is stored on ntfs and mounted as a loopback device (afaik)11:23
Wizardauronandace, Something like that.11:23
shapeHello, I've just installed a new card ATI HD 3850 and I instaleld the Ati proprietary drivers and the whole system is laggy. Laggy mouse every 20 seconds or so, hell even a 360p video on youtube is extremely laggy.I've tried some fixes from forums which involved editing the xorg.confcan. Someone please please help me, I've been trying to fix this for the past 3 hours. :(11:23
jobinarwhats a loopback device, auronandace ?11:23
tuxx-hi, how can i disable the 'quote-spacebar' windows like behaviour in ubuntu 12.04 ? :)11:23
Wizardjobinar, a device "emulating" real device.11:23
sentenzaresult11:23
auronandacejobinar: like an iso emulates a cd11:23
lobster3038hello11:23
Dr_Willisquote spacebar?11:24
jobinarthen  Wizard is it that u don't recommend emulation?11:24
auronandacejobinar: wubi is not an emulator11:25
auronandacejobinar: emulation is better than wubi in my opinion (safer)11:25
Dr_Willisan iso file is a iso9660 filesystem in a file. ;)  its not emulating a cd.11:25
Wizardjobinar, No, I recommend normal install, on hard drive partition.11:25
tuxx-is there any way to disable the feature where you have to hit spacebar before a " shows up in ubuntu 12.04 ? Tried a different keyboard layout, but the feature remains :(11:26
auronandacejobinar: wubi was always intended as a way to test out ubuntu (never a long term solution)11:26
Dr_WillisI agree. normal install if you want to use Ubuntu, or test it in virtualbox.11:26
auronandaceDr_Willis: sorry, bad terminology11:26
Dr_Willis!info vice11:26
ubottuvice (source: vice): Versatile Commodore Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.dfsg-2 (precise), package size 5639 kB, installed size 15506 kB11:27
Dr_Willis:) my favorite emulator is 'vice'11:27
Shaitan|BIGfor emulating what?11:27
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Dr_WillisVersatile Commodore Emulator - C64, C128, Vic-2-11:27
Wizard;]11:27
andywhooo the commy11:27
khmerog_why dont they make the kubuntu installer do partitionauto for u :( like the swap, / , home, /root, etc..11:28
fastaHow do I enable window previews for minimized and non-minimized applications in Unity?11:28
WizardReal men use real hardware. Emulation is for.. kids.11:28
Wizard:>11:28
fastaI cannot believe it was shipped without this feature/with this bug.11:28
jobinarThanks everyone!11:29
fastaI basically like everything about Unity, except that.11:29
fastaIt completely kills the experience.11:29
erle-how can i get sound in a application that asks for /dev/dsp?11:29
erle-aoss does not work11:29
erle-ubuntu 12.0411:29
Wizardfasta, Screenshot, or id didn't happen ;]11:29
user2fasta:  rofl!11:30
fastaWizard: I am talking about hover mouse over a launcher icon.11:30
fastaWizard: no images are then displayed of all the windows on the current desktop.11:30
MonkeyDustuser2  don't lol and rofl here please11:30
Dr_Willisi used to enable that on the old gnome i rember fasta  never really noticed it missing. never really cared. ;)11:31
Wizardfasta, That's right.11:31
fastaDr_Willis: if I have 10 terminals open. How do I know which one to pick?11:31
Dr_WillisI wonder if that would work with some of the docks if you enabled the feature in compiz ccsm11:31
Dr_Willisfasta:  You should know - they are your terminals..11:31
* Dr_Willis uses screen11:31
WizardYou have to click on the tile, fasta. Than you will see thumbnails.11:31
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andywno loling or rolfing?11:32
chuIf you have 10 terminals open, you're probably doing something wrong.11:32
tailfif i want to test out an operating system in a VM, what's the best way to set this from ubuntu?11:32
fastaWizard: that's part of the 'it kills the experience'.11:32
WizardAh.11:32
WizardNow I get it.11:32
fastachu: there are people who manage 90 of them.11:32
chuThere are people doing something wrong.11:32
andywchu I often have a load of putty sessions open in windows11:33
fastaDr_Willis: Ì also use screen, but how exactly is the work flow then?11:33
Wizardfasta, Unity-2d has such feature, you click on the icon and it shows thumbnails of this application. Terminal, in your case.11:33
jobinarDoes anyone know what is the maximum no of OS anyone can install on their system, considering he has unlimited disk space?11:33
Dr_Willisfasta:  work? whats that? ;P11:33
jobinarhklj11:33
jobinargiu11:33
Dr_Willisfasta:  oh work.. thats where i sit all day and irc from my cellphone instead of the pc. ;)11:33
halvorsI'm having problems using IPv6 on my computer. It seems to prefer IPv4...11:34
Wizardjobinar, Infinity.11:34
andywjobinar, lots11:34
halvorsAny way to simply enable it?11:34
fastaDr_Willis: ... not helpful.11:34
DJonesjobinar: I don't think there is a maximum, it comes down to disk space and being able to create enough partitions11:34
halvorsWhy isn't IPv6 enabled by default.11:34
halvors?11:34
andywbecause so few places have support for it yet11:34
krababbelhalvors: just enable it11:34
Dr_Willisfasta:   i doubt if its going to be enablable in unity. the feature was rather buggy in  the old gnome.  I mentioned trying some of the docks out that Might emulate the old gnome panel enough where it might work with them11:34
halvorsHow? :)11:34
jobinarok11:34
Dr_Willismost guides are how to disable ipv6 :)11:35
halvorskrababbel: How do i enable it?11:35
DeltaHeavyHey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and whenever I open Nautalis via the GUI it takes anywhere between 5-10s to open, and the "Opening <dir name>" can hang for up to a little under a minute. When done through the terminal, it opens fine. Anybody know how to fix this? I'm using GNOME Classic.11:35
andywclassic a classy man11:35
halvorsDr_Willis: I know. But i want to use IPv6 since i actually have IPv6 connectivity.11:36
MonkeyDusthalvors  it isnt enabled, to avoid a lot of people asking how to disable it11:36
DeltaHeavyhalvors: You want to use IPv6 internally?11:36
andywhalvors, are you chatting from the future?11:36
khmerog_nope im having troubles..the best way that worked for me was to partition the drive on windows first and then install kubuntu. anyone else do it this way?11:36
Dr_Willishalvors:  wow. :) thats like having a color printer back in the 1960s ;)11:36
halvorsNo gloablly.11:36
halvorsWell, it's 6in4 on my Cisco router :P11:36
DeltaHeavykhmerog_: No, that way sounds terrible lol11:36
khmerog_hmm11:37
Dr_Willishalvors:  check the network manager settings? if it was anywhere. id think it would be there11:37
andywhalvors, windows mangles partitions11:37
krababbelit does not!11:37
khmerog_deltaheavy because if i dont do it that wy. kubuntu will install over my windows 711:37
Dr_Willishalvors:  theres a ipv6 settings tab in network manager.11:37
DeltaHeavykhmerog_: The NTFS drivers for Linux is terrible compared to naitive support11:37
halvorsDr_Willis: But there is no way to enable it...11:38
Dr_Williskhmerog_:  i use a gparted live cd and  resize and leave part of the HD unallocated for the linux installer to partion. or i just make the partions from gparted and tell the installer exactly where to install to.11:38
szalDeltaHeavy: still better than Ext* drivers for Windows11:38
DeltaHeavykhmerog_: Not if you do it properly. Shrink your NTFS partition in Windows then either set your partition table up manually for *buntu or select "Use exisitng free space"11:38
DeltaHeavyszal: Agree'd11:38
halvorsMy problem is that Ubuntu prefer IPv4 over IPv6, wich makes IPv6 pointless.11:38
Dr_Willishalvors:  it seems to be enabled here. set to automatic. buti got  no ipv6 router/features to give out any (that i know of)11:38
andywDr_Willis, you use gparted to shrink ntfs FSes?11:39
DeltaHeavyhalvors: IPv6 is meant to be used externally. Ubuntu really wasn't meant to be much more than a desktop OS.11:39
halvorsIPv6 should be enabled by default after World IPv6 Launch.11:39
Dr_Willisandyw:  it can do it. i do find windows7 can resize its own NTFS MUCH faster then gparted does11:39
DeltaHeavyhalvors: Plain false, IPv4 will be used internally for a long time to come. IPv6 is mainly for the actual internet, not your intranet.11:40
andywlast time i used gparted to resize a NTFS FS a train wreak doesn’t being to descibe the outcome11:40
Dr_Willisandyw:  and windows 7 can resize the partion while in use.. so i can play farmville  and resize. :) w11:40
halvorsBut how to enable it?11:40
halvorsEven Windows 7 prefer IPv6...11:40
DeltaHeavyYeah, if you're going to resize a propriary file system use it's proprietary tool to do so for best results11:40
Dr_Willisandyw:  the reccomended  routine is to scandisk/defrag then use gparted, then rescandisk i belive11:40
andywDr_Willis, really? when did they bring that in. Can it do the system volume?11:41
krababbeli'd never use gparted for ntfs11:41
Dr_Willisandyw:  i resized my main partion on a new windows box to install linux while in use. so yes.11:41
krababbelandyw: system volume resize while oneline works, on win711:41
Dr_Willisandyw:  befor win7 - i dont think it could.11:41
DeltaHeavyhalvors: You sure? I doubt it, I've only ever used IPv4 on Windows 7. Also try looking around in /etc/network/ for a configuration file.11:41
melvincvWhen the internet connection fails, the ssh session just gets stuck, I do not get my terminal prompt back. Why?11:41
andywThats pretty cool I have done live extensions in windows server but didnt know win7 can shrink the system vol live11:42
DeltaHeavymelvincv: Try an escape key like "Ctrl + C" or "Ctrl + Z"11:42
melvincvDeltaHeavy: no go11:43
krababbelandyw: it can, though windows has no tools to compact the files to get more space11:43
happyhi i am so happy whit ubuntu 12.04 , i want to know more this OS :)11:43
krababbelbut there are trial versions of defragmenters to do that11:43
andywthere is a free one as well11:43
andywforget the name11:43
c0deMasterhow to detect and block port scanning?11:44
krababbelI used perfect disk trial11:44
OnkeltemWould you recommend an app for monitoring traffic consumption by applications?11:44
andywc0deMaster,  depends on how your connected to the internet11:44
Dr_Williscompact the files?  you mean defrag the hd?11:45
DeltaHeavyc0deMaster: That's more a question for #networking or #security11:45
rildoHi ! I would like to talk about shell scripts. What is the channel ?11:45
MonkeyDustrildo  try #bash11:45
Dr_Willisc0deMaster:  theres services like fail2ban or  others.. but if you have no services listening.. then the scans see nothing.. so they move on.11:45
DeltaHeavyHey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and whenever I open Nautalis via the GUI it takes anywhere between 5-10s to open, and the "Opening <dir name>" can hang for up to a little under a minute. When done through the terminal, it opens fine. Anybody know how to fix this? I'm using GNOME Classic.11:45
andywso is this just a gen chat channel then?11:46
happyis there an internet maltiplayer in ubuntu11:46
happy?11:46
rildoThanks MonkeyDust11:46
van9oghI don't like unity11:46
Dr_Willisvan9ogh:  so use some of the other desktops11:46
DeltaHeavyhappy: Gaming in Linux is pretty much non-existant compared to Windows. Why I still run Windows mainly.11:46
MonkeyDustvan9ogh  i don't like/use unity11:46
DeltaHeavyandyw: Support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is gen chat11:47
van9oghyes,Mint11:47
MonkeyDustvan9ogh  mint is not supported here11:47
andywDeltaHeavy, cool just clarifying11:47
happyi do not understand what you mean ?11:47
Dr_Willisvan9ogh:  theres   kde, gnome-shell, lxde, xfce, and others..11:47
happy?11:47
c0deMasterandyw, for a vps?11:47
auronandacevan9ogh: mint is a distribution, not a desktop11:47
van9oghso,meta11:47
MonkeyDusthappy  start here http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html11:48
DeltaHeavyWho the hell puts a dir like /html/ on their website lol11:49
happyfirst of first [[ I NEED TO MAKE MY NAME IN THIS CHAT SHOW TO ME AS A DEFRENT COLOUR]]11:50
Dr_Willishappy:  no you dont.. its OUR clients that color the nicks.. not yours11:50
bazhanghappy, lose the caps11:50
Dr_Willishappy:  so check your irc client docs if you cant see your own nick. ;)11:50
happyokay sorry11:51
bazhanghappy, which irc client11:51
happyi am so new in this11:51
bazhangthe gateway11:51
bazhanghappy, you might ask in #freenode about the webchat client11:52
DeltaHeavyhappy: Usually if you go to Edit --> Preferences it'll be somewhere there.11:52
happythanks :)11:52
DeltaHeavyI have no idea what client you're using but it's the equivlent to 'Tools --> Options' in Windows.11:53
happyCTCP ?11:54
happywhat is CTCP ?11:54
bazhanghappy, to check your version irc client ctcp version11:55
Dr_Willishappy:  time to read up some irc basics sites i belive. ;)11:55
happyDr_Willis where would i find that ??11:56
DeltaHeavyhappy: The Googler11:56
Dr_Willisthe Internetz! ;)11:56
van9ogh有人会说中文吗11:57
bazhangvan9ogh, #ubuntu-cn11:57
DeltaHeavyhappy: Honestly I wouldn't be too concerned with learning IRC basics other than: 1) Registering   2) Getting around11:57
van9oghunderstand11:57
van9oghthx!11:57
shapeHello, I installed an ATI card and installed the proprietary drivers, and the mouse is laggy and the desktop is laggy as well. Even youtube videos. I searched online with no success. Any suggestions?11:58
happyi am learning now11:58
happyi will be back  :)11:58
DeltaHeavyshape: ATI isn't supported very well in Linux at all. There may not be a fix at all but I'm not certain.11:59
shapeDeltaHeavy, damn, I should've know before I bought it then :(11:59
MonkeyDusthappy  the best way to learn, is by just using it, like we all did and do11:59
shapeDeltaHeavy, should I install the drivers from their site? I heard they can break the system, on multiple forums.12:01
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Dr_Willisit also depends on how new the ati card and how old .:)12:01
DeltaHeavyshape: Is it a Linux driver?12:01
shapeDeltaHeavy, yes12:01
happy:( how to change the input languch to arabic in ubuntu ??12:01
DeltaHeavyshape: Is it reported to break on *buntu or Debian related distros, or distros like Fedora because I know Fedora has major issues with that.12:02
shapeDeltaHeavy, actually on their website, there is none!12:02
DeltaHeavyshape: What about the stuff you read?12:02
shapeDeltaHeavy, I would have to dig it up again. Also I can;t even install the post-release drivers even!. I get an error from jockey.12:03
shapeDeltaHeavy, would it matter if I had an nvidia card before, and purged the nvidia-current. After which I installed the card? Would it get fixed if I format everything and do a clean install?12:05
DeltaHeavyshape: What's the error?12:05
shapeDeltaHeavy, one sec.12:05
Dr_Willisshape:  if you have a spare flash drive you could do a quick instal to it. and try the ati drivers from a new install as a test12:05
DeltaHeavyshape: A reinstall would fix that but it's probably not needed. I'm not too sure about that though.12:05
happy:( how to change the input languch to arabic in ubuntu12:06
DeltaHeavyshape: You could also Google your exact card and the vesion of Ubuntu you're using like this '"<card>" "Ubuntu 12.04"'12:06
shapeDr_willis: I thought of that, but then I am too noob to know how to delete from Grub the Ubuntu option that would be on the flash after I remove the flash12:06
DeltaHeavyhappy: A lot of these questions can be awnsered very easily with a simple Google query. If you still can't find any awnsers, then ask here. I'd awnser you now but I'd have to Google it.12:07
shapeDeltaHeavy, what would I gain from doing that? you mean forum threads about peopel having problems?12:07
DeltaHeavyshape: If there were issues with that card running with your version of Ubuntu it'll pop up.12:07
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shapeDeltaHeavy, yeah I actually searched for the issues on google, and tried multiple fixes, even changing xorg.conf, but with no luck.12:08
DeltaHeavyshape: http://xkcd.com/963/12:09
DeltaHeavyshape: Could people get it working without performing some sort of rediculous amount of work?12:09
khmerogYAY!! i succesfully installed Kubuntu alongisde Windows 7...i had to partition the drive first in windows and then format it (sda3) then install kubuntu12:10
manixrockhey, I'm trying to make a linux image using buildroot-2012.05 (latest version right now), but when I run "make busybox-menuconfig" I get "No rule to make target"12:10
Dr_Willisshape:  it would have its own grub on the usb12:10
DeltaHeavykhmerog: Format it with Windows in NTFS or in the Kubuntu installer?12:10
manixrockmore specifically I get: make: *** No rule to make target `busybox-menuconfig'.  Stop.12:11
shapeDeltaHeavy, no, from what Ive seen. Ive searched mainly regarding mouse lag and laggy windows which gave a lot of results12:11
DeltaHeavymanixrock: When executing this command what's your present working directory? Have you tried running './configure'?12:11
khmerogformat it with windows in the disk managment12:11
DeltaHeavyshape: Then that's probably just an issue.12:11
shapeDr_Willis, So if I have running Ubuntu with Grub on my PC, the Ubuntu that I install on the flashdrive, will install grub on the flash, and once I remove the flash, the second grub wil lbe gone, correct?12:11
khmerogthis was the weirdest linux install i have ever done... ubuntu 1204 is easy, joliOS, Linux Mint, Lubuntu12:11
DeltaHeavykhmerog: I highly advise against that but if it's working for you enjoy. Don't be surprized if you see the odd corrupted file here and there.12:12
khmerogbut kubuntu not very simple12:12
NCS_Onehi12:12
manixrockDeltaHeavy: I get: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory12:12
shapeDeltaHeavy, so, from that comic, the more you open xorg.conf, the better?12:12
manixrockthe current directory is the buildroot folder12:12
DeltaHeavymanixrock: What's your present working directory when executing those commands.12:12
DeltaHeavyshape: The worse12:12
khmerogwell i will use kubuntu for web browsing since my HD 6870 always crashes in windows 7 while watching windows or a website that uses flash12:12
lpappDr_Willis: hm... what is the default "Standard" user ?12:12
manixrockDeltaHeavy: the current directory is the buildroot folder12:12
khmerogany downloads i do i will save it onto the Windows 7 drive12:12
lpappon an Ubuntu 12.04 installation ?12:13
DeltaHeavymanixrock: What's the output of 'pwd'12:13
shapeDeltaHeavy, oh sorry, yes, that's right12:13
NCS_OneI'm doing a script to open a couple of apps and would like to know how can I say to open an app on a different desk?12:13
lpappthe problem is that my program works, if I run that from command line, but not from the desktop with a launcher icon due to permission issues....12:13
manixrockDeltaHeavy: /home/myusername/Downloads/buildroot-2012.0212:13
DeltaHeavyshape: It's not safe to say yet, but it wouldn't be surprizing if you're SOL12:13
shapeDeltaHeavy, what's "SOL"12:14
DeltaHeavymanixrock: Can you pastebin the output of 'ls -la'12:14
DeltaHeavyshape: Shit Out of Luck12:14
Dr_Willislpapp:  im not sure what you mean.12:14
DeltaHeavylpapp: When you run the program in terminal are you using 'sudo'?12:15
lpappDr_Willis: there is an app requiring access to the serial port, so my package's postinst script puts that user into the "dialout" group12:15
shapeDeltaHeavy, the thing is, ATI has the best AGP cards, that would allow me to run hardware acceleration on this old computer (1.6Ghz sempron), So I can watch 1080p movies. :(12:15
lpappDeltaHeavy: nope12:15
shapeDr_Willis, thanks for the suggestion btw! I will probably end up doing the USB thing12:15
DeltaHeavylpapp: Are you framiliar with 'chmod'?12:15
manixrockDeltaHeavy: here - http://pastebin.com/BYpiZ5vX12:15
DeltaHeavyshape: They also have terrible linux support, and terrible drivers for Windows to begin with.12:16
lpappDeltaHeavy: yes, I used that 15 years ago first12:16
lpappwhat has this to do with chmod ?12:16
orgainmoin12:16
shapeDeltaHeavy, yeah, yet there are users who use them. And I thought I would take the chance.12:16
DeltaHeavylpapp: If it's a premissions issue are you sure the files you're trying to execute have proper premissions? You probably already checked that though so idk.12:17
lpappDeltaHeavy: really no clue what you mean12:17
manixrockDeltaHeavy: I downloaded those files as an archive from here: http://buildroot.uclibc.org/download.html12:17
melvincvshape: how about the open source ATI driver that's installed by default? What issues does it have?12:17
lpappthe process does have access to stuff, if it is run with the user created during the installation.12:17
manixrockDeltaHeavy: the link "buildroot-2012.02.tar.gz "12:17
NCS_OneI'm doing a script to open a couple of apps and would like to know how can I say to open an app on a different desk?12:17
shapemelvincv, no issues, but no hardware acceleration. :(12:18
deleteвсем привет12:18
DeltaHeavymanixrock: Try './Config.in' './Makefile' and if that doesn't work pastebin 'ls -la configs' or just mess around in there. If there's no target you probably need to run some sort of shell script in here12:18
DeltaHeavydelete: This is an english channel only.12:18
deleteok12:18
manixrockDeltaHeavy: the tutorial on this page - http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html#custom_busybox - says to run "make busybox-menuconfig"12:19
deletewe are russian cannel12:19
DJones!ru | delete If you want a russion channel, there is this12:19
ubottudelete If you want a russion channel, there is this: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:19
NewWorldNCS_One:  which window manager are you using?12:19
NCS_OneNewWorld: gnome12:19
NewWorldNCS_One:  ok then sorry I don't know12:19
DeltaHeavymanixrock: And it's saying there's no target? Try going into the root directory of the source files (the folder the .tar.gz gave you) and just run 'make'.12:20
manixrockDeltaHeavy: when I run "sudo ./Config.in" I get: "sudo: ./Config.in: command not found"12:20
ngomeswhitecrow is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.12:20
ngomesi got this error after upgrade to 12.0412:20
Dr_Willisso whitecrow was your main admin user?12:21
shapeDeltaHeavy, hey, thanks for your help btw. I really appreciate it. I will end up installing on the USB, and then probably if it doesn't work, just end up using the opensource drivers. Because the card is good. I can play 1080p in windows with this old processor, so I can still watch movies.12:21
DeltaHeavymanixrock: If you're going to use sudo don't include the './'12:21
ngomeslooks like i've writen sudoers conf from maintainer instead of maintain the old one12:21
ngomesDr_Willis, yes12:21
melvincvHow come 'no hardware acceleration' for the ATI radeon open source driver. But I get Ubuntu 3D Unity with it.12:21
DeltaHeavyshape: Not a problem12:21
ngomesDr_Willis, any way to recover , this is a VPS12:22
manixrockDeltaHeavy: when I run "sudo Config.in" I get: "sudo: Config.in: command not found"12:22
melvincvWhere to get info on how popular Ubuntu is atm? Like no. of users?12:22
ngomesi've read some instructions but looks to be for local computer12:22
KingKatariis there any other place in ubuntu server 12.04 LTS version that controls the total number of connections into a server besides net.core.somaxconn??????????12:23
Dr_Willisngomes:  ive never used a VPS so no idea12:23
lpappshouldn't the desktop shortcut run the stuff at the Exec line as the currently logged in user ? If yes, Ubuntu messes up stuff since I only created one account while installing this...12:24
oneksenhellp12:24
manixrockDeltaHeavy: running "make" in the buildroot directory throws these errors - http://pastebin.com/09pg1JTR12:24
ngomesmelvincv, distrowatch.com  , maybe12:24
lpappyeah, no other users in /home either, just the lost+found folder.12:24
happysorry, if i didnt answer anyone, but i really cannt seperate between the members by any colour12:25
ikoniamanixrock: you're missing dependencies12:25
manixrockikonia: how do I know which to install?12:25
DeltaHeavymanixrock: Ok now we're getting somewhere. Run 'sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel'12:25
ikoniamanixrock: meet the depencencies12:25
ikoniamanixrock: why are you building this from source ?12:25
manixrockok installing now12:25
Dr_Willislpapp:  try running 'xterm' and see what user it is.12:26
manixrockikonia: I want to make a tiny linux image12:26
happyand i thing i am using the online freenode , i mean not an installed software12:26
manixrockikonia: am I doing it wrong?12:26
ikoniamanixrock: what do you mean, tiny linux image ?12:26
Dr_Willislpapp:  exactly how are you running this stuff?12:26
lpappDr_Willis: in gnome-terminal12:26
lpappand run12:26
ikoniaKingKatari: please don't cross-post your questions between here and #ubuntu-server.12:27
lpappxterm exactly runs the same obviously as gnome-terminal12:27
lpappI do not really see the problem12:27
DeltaHeavymanixrock: Do you just want this installed or do you want to compile it from source?12:27
KingKatarik12:27
manixrockikonia: I want to recreate the linux image used in the Javascript PC Emulator - http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html12:27
Dr_Willislpapp:   You run an app from gnome-terminal and it changes users? so if you run xterm from gnome-terminal its now running as what user?12:27
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ikoniamanixrock: ok, so this really isn't anything to do with ubuntu12:28
lpappDr_Willis: I think you are overcomplicating this12:28
manixrockikonia: I want to re-create (and then modify) this: http://bellard.org/jslinux/vmlinux-2.6.20.bin12:28
lpappthere is only one user created, stop.12:28
ikoniamanixrock: yeah, I've just read the URL, you're basically creating a linux boot envionment based on the jslinux source/provided data12:28
manixrockikonia: yes. am I in the wrong chat room for this?12:29
ikoniamanixrock: yeah, I'd try the guys who build jslinux12:29
ikoniamanixrock: they should be able to walk through issues/problems/questions with you12:29
manixrockikonia: it's just a standard busybox built with buildroot as far as I can tell12:30
manixrockit shouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's used by the Js emulator12:30
ikoniamanixrock: looks like it sure12:31
manixrockso basically I just want to learn how to use the buildroot thing12:31
ikoniamanixrock: but that's also nothing to do with ubuntu12:31
lpappany ideas guys ?12:31
manixrockikonia: where should I ask then?12:31
ikoniamanixrock: no idea, the busy box guys ?12:31
manixrockdoesn't anyone here know how to build a binary linux image?12:32
ikoniamanixrock: sure, but it's an ubuntu support channel,12:32
ikoniamanixrock: hence why trying the busybox guys should be a better approach12:33
manixrockikonia: how do I find those guys? :)12:33
ikoniamanixrock: read their website for their contact/support information12:33
manixrockok12:33
WhereIsMySpoonHi, how many mount points can Ubuntu have? Like sda, sdb....sdaa...sdaaa, etc12:34
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: mount points or partitions12:34
WhereIsMySpoonmount points12:34
WhereIsMySpoonfor external usb devices, for example12:35
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: pretty much as many as you want, (I'm sure there is a limit, but it's something crazy like 25,0000)12:35
Dr_WillisWhereIsMySpoon:  those are device names...12:35
Dr_WillisWhereIsMySpoon:   and once ya get past sdz it goes to sdaa and sdab i belive ive read somewhere12:35
WhereIsMySpoon yes i know how it works12:35
WhereIsMySpooni just wanted to know if there was a limit12:35
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: a limit you'll never hit12:36
Dr_Willisive seen them at least 8+ characters..12:36
Dr_Willismccblk0p#  for sd cards12:36
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, ok12:36
DeltaHeavyWhereIsMySpoon: There isn't as far as I know. Winblows is the only OS I know if with such a stupid restriction.12:36
ikoniaooh wait, you mean a limit on the size of the label, or a limit on the number of number of mounts12:36
ikoniaDeltaHeavy: it's called "Windows" - please use the proper name12:36
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, well, surely the latter would stem from the former12:36
DeltaHeavyikonia: no12:37
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: no, how long a string is, has nothing to do with how many mount points12:37
WhereIsMySpoonotherwise you'd get multiple mounts on the same label12:37
DeltaHeavyWintendo, Winblow, Internet Exploder12:37
sam1967my alt-tab is no longer working . any ideas ?12:37
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, so what would happen when you reach max string size12:38
WhereIsMySpoonand you tried to mount12:38
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: it would just refuse with an error saying "mountpoint name too long" or "volume label too long" something like that12:38
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, ok then12:38
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: basically the mount point is the limit of the file/directory name size12:38
ikoniaI think that's 250 chars or something like that12:38
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, does that include the "/media/" before it ?12:39
WhereIsMySpoonor wherever you mounted it12:39
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: no, that would be a path, not a string12:39
WhereIsMySpooneh, i didnt mean media12:39
WhereIsMySpooni meant /dev/12:39
WhereIsMySpoonbut whatever12:40
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, so only the "sdxxxx" are counted from the path12:40
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: /dev is a device name, not a mount point or a volume label12:40
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: you don't need to worry about /dev devices12:40
WhereIsMySpooner12:40
khmerogdoes fedora use the same programs/software packages as ubuntu and linux mint?12:40
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, /dev/sd<whatever> is wha ti was talking about12:40
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: yes, you don't need to worry about that, it's managed by udev12:41
WhereIsMySpoonif there was a limit to those labels12:41
WhereIsMySpoonikonia, ? surely there must be a limit on that too12:41
ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: they are not labels, they are device file and outside your control12:41
WhereIsMySpoonohh12:41
ikoniakhmerog: core components, yes, put together different/versioned different, sure12:41
WhereIsMySpoonok then12:42
WhereIsMySpoonsorry for the confusion12:42
WhereIsMySpoonand thanks12:42
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ikoniaWhereIsMySpoon: not a problem, it can be confusing12:42
WhereIsMySpoonikonia,  :D12:42
khmerogi see12:42
khmerogbasicallt ubuntu, kubuntu, linux mint are all the same but they just look different correct?12:43
pungi-manwith a little difference btw ubuntu and linux mint12:43
Dr_Williskhmerog:  linux is all about layers :) think of it as layers of legos forming a house. the layers of the foundation may be the same  or close to the same, but the upper layers can be very differnt.12:44
ikoniakhmerog: bottom line -yes, different desktops, it's more complex but that's the bottom line of it12:44
Dr_Willisthe Desktop/Gui is just one of the many layers the user sees..  like the roof and sideing. ;P12:44
khmerogahhh!! very nice explanation/example12:45
Dr_Willisand Ogres are Like Onions...12:45
Dr_Willisbut the cake is a lie.12:45
* Dr_Willis shuts up now.12:45
NewWorldxD12:45
khmerogive been using linux for about 1 year but never got the technical part of it..i just like the visuals or maybe im just bored of windows12:46
khmeroghow about fedora?12:46
Dr_Willistechnically the kernel is 'linux' thats like the big green lego you stick all the others onto12:46
khmerogi see that fedora also has a KDE version12:46
ikoniakhmerog: what about it ?12:46
Dr_Williskernel is the kernel.. rest of layers are similer or differnt depending on the disrto. ;)12:47
khmerogfedora and ubuntu/mint uses the same software managers12:47
Dr_Williskhmerog:  last i looked.. mint uses apt-get/apt just like all deb based  disrtos12:47
khmerogor do they have their own softwares..example K3B burn is it only for ubuntu or is there veryso12:47
khmerogok12:47
Dr_Willisfedora uses RPM  - whish is very differnt12:47
Dr_Willissame software - differnt package managers...12:47
khmerogwhat really confused me is if i want to get the latest release of a software..i go to there website. but there is like 5 different linux versions12:48
Dr_Williskhmerog:  stick with the package manager tools..  going to a 'web site' to get software is a windows-type-mindset12:49
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NewWorldkhmerog:  Same program and same version of it, just different packages made for different package managers12:49
escottkhmerog, for ubuntu/mint/debian use apt. for redhat/suse use yum but dont download from the web12:49
khmerogsome pages like http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html  is pretty simple but there are others that dont list ubuntu12:49
NewWorldkhmerog:  If it lists others but not Ubuntu, look for a .deb package. Ubuntu can install that12:50
Dr_Willissometimes. it can at least. ;)12:51
khmerognewworld and what app do i use to install the .deb files?12:52
rbrooksthere is many different brands/types of linux...12:52
khmerogim not good at using terminal yet12:52
Dr_Willisrbrooks:  differnt 'disrtbutions'12:52
Dr_Willis!disrto12:52
khmerog!distros12:52
ubottuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)12:53
rbrooksok right, but you just have to try some to see12:53
Dr_Willisdistrowatch web site has a decent selection ;)12:53
dkmthi~~12:53
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pwasekDoes 12.04 have a bug with the smbldap tools.  I notice the configure.pl file is not in the usr/share/docs/smbldap-tools12:54
pwasekis there a fix for this12:54
pwasek?12:54
rbrookstry them all and download kubuntu, fedora, etc...12:55
Dr_Willis'Disrto Of the Month Club'12:55
rbrooksooo let me go check that site again12:55
Dr_Willisthen come back to ubuntu... ;)12:56
tuxx-hi guys, anyone know how i can disable the feature where i have to press spacebar after i've hit a ' or " key before the character actually shows up? :P12:56
rbrookslinux mint etc...12:56
SidewinderYes, always retutn to ubuntu; it's the friendliest. :)12:56
rbrooksyes then always back to ubuntu12:56
Dr_Willistuxx-:  sounds like some sort of extended character feture. like to make a fancy spanish e with marks bove ie.12:57
tuxx-Dr_Willis: yeah it does, but i hate it.12:57
tuxx-Dr_Willis: tried a different keyboard layout (english (USA)), didnt work though12:57
Dr_WillisIm on american english. :) so i dont even thin i have it.12:57
khmerogso if im using VLC player on kubuntu..and foiund a bug on vlc, well that same bug be on ubuntu and linux mint?12:57
khmerogand as a developer to fix that bug do they have to fix it for all distros?12:58
khmerogbasically im trying to see if their is a linux os more stable than the other12:58
Dr_Williskhmerog:   they fix their code.. disrto makers repackage it.12:58
Dr_Willisupdates come to us via package manager..12:59
Sidewinderkhmerog, You can chack launchpad.ore to either report the bug or see if there's a work-around/fix for it.12:59
Sidewindercheck, even.12:59
numbiehas anyone compiled zygrib?12:59
Sidewinderorg, even.;; Early still.12:59
Dr_Willis!info zygrib13:00
ubottuzygrib (source: zygrib): Weather data visualization,  GRIB file viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.2-1 (precise), package size 584 kB, installed size 1780 kB13:00
khmerog:)13:00
khmerogdistrowatch is a great website :D13:01
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numbieim using lucid and there is only 3.5 , it doesn't fetch the map13:01
Dr_Willisfind a ppa. or use the source i guess.13:02
numbiei tried to compile but it didnt work13:02
Dr_Willisfirst choice would be to find a ppa. ;)13:03
Dr_Willisbut the factits in the repos can make it easier to compile.13:03
Dr_Willissudo apt-get build-deps packagename     'should' pull in all needed dev packages to compile it.13:03
Dr_Willisor was it build-dep13:03
escotttuxx-, sounds like you have a compose key permanently enabled somehow13:04
ImgdlAny alternative to BulkImageDownloader,I read soemthing about wget and -l3 but Im totally new to wget usage13:04
Dr_Williswget has a few gui front ends also. :)13:05
ImgdlHmm google time :D13:05
Dr_Willisapt-cache search wget13:05
paul83I noticed that the smbldaptools is missing the configure.pl file in the usr/share/doc/smbldap-tools is this is know bug13:07
ImgdlDr_Willis only thing I see that looks like app I need it pwget13:07
Dr_Willisi use the command line.. rarely for wget13:09
Imgdlhttp://www.jensroesner.de/wgetgui/#install   This is just for Windows right? :/13:09
jhonahola?13:12
ulidtkohey guys, skype is coredumping on my system, any help?13:14
escottulidtko, its closed source there probably isn't much anyone can do13:14
ulidtkoit worked before the upgrade to 12.0413:14
ulidtkoescott: yeah, i understand that13:15
ulidtkobut from various activity in the community (like http://askubuntu.com/q/139279/9061 ) I conclude that it's not a generic problem with skype on ubuntu, but with specifically my system13:16
ulidtkoso i wonder how could i solve that13:16
compdochave to go thru the logs and see why how the system sees your devices13:17
numbiei just cant compile it :/13:18
Dr_Willisnumbie:  and what error do you get when you try?13:19
ImgdlAny tips how to properly set up wget to use "deeper" search egz. follow links to gallery and dl pics from them13:19
numbieDr_Willis,  alot13:20
Dr_WillisImgdl:  you may want to try some website-mirroring type tool like httrack (i think)13:20
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Dr_Willis!info httrack13:20
ubottuhttrack (source: httrack): Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.44.1-4 (precise), package size 31 kB, installed size 108 kB13:20
numbieDr_Willis,  how do i qmake ?13:20
Dr_Willis!info qmake13:21
ubottuPackage qmake does not exist in precise13:21
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Dr_WillisNo idea on qmake. been ages since id  more then just ./configure   make   sudo make install13:21
ImgdlDr_Willis that seems awesome,I just hope its all legal :D13:21
Dr_Willisgo copy google to your pc...13:23
Imgdlduckduckgo seems more fun13:24
Sidewindernumbie, You might also want to look at this (although it sounds like you have not gotten that far): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall13:25
numbieit wont work13:26
UnixLoverHello13:26
Dr_Willisyou could pastebin the errors and session so we can see numbie  or check the apps homepage for compile instructions13:26
numbiethere isnt really any instructions13:26
numbiethey say i shall qmake13:26
numbiebut it wont work13:27
OerHeksnumbie there should be a read.me in the source13:29
ImgdlDr_Willis Thank you httrack is doing what I need,now time to google best settings for my needs. :)13:29
ulidtkookay, so the problem with Skype was in my handwritten Apparmor profile13:30
ulidtkoI have removed it, then sudo service apparmor reload, and skype works again13:30
numbiehttp://www.zygrib.org/#section_linux   for anyone who wants to try13:30
UnixLoverAnybody have experience with truecrypt?13:33
filo#v01d13:35
huayraUnixLover, some. What do you need?13:35
UnixLoverIs it possible to install ubuntu with a already encrypted harddrive13:37
UnixLoverPreboot auth13:37
UnixLoverBecouse I cant get ubuntu to recognize my hardrive partititon13:37
UnixLoverEven tho I decrypted it with truecrypt within ubuntu13:37
OerHeksnumbie, i tried, added the key & repo "deb http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages ubuntu-dha precise" and it is available in synaptic13:38
OerHeksUnixLover, why would you install ubuntu on a already encrypted hdd ..let ubuntu handle encryption.13:40
josefnpatUnixLover, check this guy out: https://grepular.com/Protecting_a_Laptop_from_Simple_and_Sophisticated_Attacks13:40
UnixLoverJosef13:41
UnixLoverBookmarked13:41
UnixLoverThanks13:41
UnixLoverOerHeks13:41
UnixLoverNL?13:41
FloodBot1UnixLover: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:41
OerHeksyes :-)13:41
UnixLoverOerheks I wanna do windows dual boot13:42
designbybeckI forgot what the command was to see how much free space you have on all your HDD drives/usb drives13:43
designbybeckcan anyone refresh my memory ?13:43
UnixLoverHmmmmm13:44
dontknowi changed cursor theme as black. but the cursor theme changes black if i go over a link or on any flash video13:44
OerHeksdf -h13:44
designbybeckthere it is!! OerHeks thanks!!13:44
UnixLoverDontknow13:44
UnixLoverWich browser are you using13:44
UnixLoverAnd13:44
dontknowUnixLover, chromium 1813:44
designbybeckI was just quizing you OerHeks.... you passed13:44
UnixLoverSirously why does it matter?13:44
UnixLoverDontknow?13:45
dontknowUnixLover, "Sirously why does it matter?" did you asked to me?13:45
UnixLoverYes.13:45
dontknowUnixLover, because i want black cursor theme?13:46
Dr_Willissome times not all apps see the new cursor  untill they are restarted, or X is restarted13:46
Dr_Willisseen it in the past. differnt apps useing differnt cursors13:46
Dr_WillisI seem to recall kde not having the issue. but the old gnome2 had a similer issue13:46
dontknowDr_Willis, i restarted of course. the issue is system wide not only in browser13:47
halvorsDeltaHeavy: I'm sure. But it may depend on your IPv6 status. Do you have IPv6 Connectivity?13:47
UnixLoverDid you upgrade yet13:47
dontknowDr_Willis, and chromium is still 18 lol13:48
numbieOerHeks,  mine wont get the gpg13:48
bmoezQUESTION: what is the best alternative to HandyCofe for ubuntu?13:48
dontknowOerHeks, you said chromium updates will come, but it is still 1813:48
UnixLoverDontknow. I know its a stupid suggestion but did you do apt-get update , apt-get upgrade13:49
jcrzaAnyone else use keepass with precise?13:49
dontknowUnixLover, of course13:49
halvorsAnyone knows how to enable IPv6 in Ubuntu, can only find howto disable it...13:49
MKeigher83hey all.... i am trying to setup ubuntu to collect snmp data from my network...before i begin...is this possible?13:49
OerHeksnumbie, enter: "  wget http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages/dha-debpackages.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -  "  and then it ask for your password13:49
dontknowhalvors, it is enabled by default13:49
halvorsNope. Have IPv6 connectivity, when i lookup google.com i get the A record, not the AAAA...13:50
UnixLoverhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv613:50
halvorsI've read that...13:50
tixwhy is this happening on my ubuntu vps? http://107.20.237.221/13:50
njinHello, terminal and resume from screensaver don't accepting my password, login and tty accept, /etc/sudoers is ok, any hint ?13:50
piezotix: what should happen?13:50
jribtix: what exactly is your question?13:50
piezo:) i see only a blog13:51
numbieOerHeks,  no it doesnt :/13:51
tixjrib: heh, i just wanted people to visit the URL... i'm testing real-time analytics13:51
tixlike 8 people visited heh13:51
jribtix: don't do that.13:51
numbiewell now it worked :/  blah13:52
tix6 from the US, 1 from germany, and 1 from ukraine13:52
UnixLoverLol not risking browser-autopwn xD13:52
piezotix: might a reason to kick/ban...dont do that13:52
tixUnixLover: rofl13:52
dontknowOerHeks, when will chromium updates come :D ?13:52
MKeigher83hey all.... i am trying to setup ubuntu to collect snmp data from my network...before i begin...is this possible?13:52
tixmetasploit13:52
UnixLoverYep13:52
OerHeksnumbie, oke, now update & upgrade13:52
OerHeksdontknow, dont know, soon.13:52
MKeigher83is it inbuilt? or what do i need to install to setup it up?13:52
piezoMKeigher83: with what piece of software?..13:52
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piezocacti, mrtg, collectd...?13:53
MKeigher83thats what i want to know.13:53
tixokay, who came in from boston?13:53
tix2 people from boston visited my blog13:53
dontknowOerHeks, i think you just made it up13:53
MKeigher83new to snmp and i wanted to know if i could get ubuntu to collect data on my networked devices13:53
compdocthats amazing13:53
UnixLoverMkeigher13:53
jribtix: stop discussing it.  It's not about ubuntu support.  And please don't do something like that again13:53
piezoMKeigher83: maybe collectd or mrtg is a start.13:53
UnixLoverTake a look at Backtrack13:53
tixjrib: lol13:53
MKeigher83collect trap13:53
tixbut people clicked13:54
tixi could have had an exploit pack on there13:54
MKeigher83backtrack?13:54
MKeigher83ok13:54
piezothx jrib, as i said...13:54
numbieOerHeks, W: Failed to fetch "the zygrib.deb" Hash Sum mismatch13:55
halvorsReally? Nobody knows how to enable IPv6? Also so Ubuntu prefer that over IPv4?13:55
UnixLoverHalvors. I think there is plenty support online13:55
halvorsNope...13:55
halvorsCan't find anything.13:55
MKeigher83whats snmp walk?13:56
piezohalvors: im online with ipv6 right now speaking to you13:56
halvorsSure?13:56
MKeigher83am i on the right track?13:56
piezoMKeigher83: if you dont know about snmp, read about :) with walk you only can get all data from a mib13:56
halvorsWell, when i surf on Google, doing DNS lookups everything "prefer" IPv4.13:56
* Dr_Willis heard they were waiting for Service pack one for Chromium to come out befor they release updates.......13:56
dontknowhalvors, open network settings, in ipv6 section choose auto13:56
piezohalvors gai.conf?13:56
MKeigher83ok13:56
halvorsI can browse IPv6 sites, the problem is that Ubuntu prefer A record over AAAA records...13:57
halvorsgai.conf?13:57
halvorsIn /etc?13:57
UnixLoverAny nerdcore lovers on13:57
josefnpatnerdcore lover?13:58
piezohalvors: http://pastebin.com/e5kaGA6313:58
piezohalvors: http://linux.die.net/man/5/gai.conf13:58
josefnpatUnixLover, I'm a big chiptune fan13:58
UnixLoverWhat is Chiptune?13:58
halvorsDo i really need to change .conf files for doing this?13:58
halvorsI thought Ubuntu was ahead on Windows with IPv6...13:59
piezohalvors: try it...dont know if ubuntu prefers it, just using deb :)13:59
josefnpatUnixLover, what is nerdcore?14:01
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josefnpatUnixLover, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune14:01
josefnpatAnd for Nerdcore, do you mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerdcore14:01
UnixLoverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY14:01
Artemis3UnixLover, tunes produce by a chip?, such as sid 6581? or perhaps music including said tunes?14:01
josefnpatUnixLover, does music like that have lasting power?14:02
UnixLoverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvGRNu08B414:02
UnixLoverI'm going tattoo nerdlife on my arm in a month14:02
UnixLoverSo I will never stop loving it atleast14:03
josefnpatReally?14:03
sepokiHi, i have to run m program in all files at the folder how can i do it ? my program usage is "java Test *.html"14:03
josefnpat"I am the warez loder"?14:03
halvorsThink i figured it out, it's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1002454?comments=all14:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1002454 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "IPv4 DNS preferred over IPv6 ones" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:03
UnixLoverSepoki be more specific14:03
sepokii have a lot of files .html14:04
MKeigher83ok heres a simple question...how do i stop the prompt that always asks me for my user password when i want to intsall things?? NOT in the terminal that is...just the GUI?14:04
Dr_Willissepoki:  use the find command, or a bash script14:04
MKeigher83or if one thing disbales both, then thats fine14:04
sepokiand i have to execute this program in java using that comando14:04
MKeigher83im just sick of always typing in ym admin password14:04
UnixLoverLogin as user root14:04
UnixLoverMK14:04
MKeigher83anyway to give my account root privs?14:04
MKeigher83*workaround14:05
UnixLoverGoogle14:05
Dr_Willisif you have sudo rights. then you do have root privs14:05
dontknowMKeigher83, what do you mean14:05
sepokiUnixLover, understand it ?14:05
Dr_Willisthe sudoers file can have exceptions. check the sudoer docs/examples14:05
Dr_Willisthen it wont ask for the pass for specific programs14:05
UnixLoverSepoki no14:06
MKeigher83well wehen i type sudo apt-get install "whatever" i get asked for my password...thats fine...as im in the terminal14:06
UnixLoverWhich program do you want to open the files with14:06
UnixLovermk14:06
UnixLoverIf you do sudo su14:06
MKeigher83but when i doing other things in the GUI...a box pops up prompting for my password14:06
UnixLoverYou get root terminal14:06
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sepokiUnixLover, mine program14:07
MKeigher83ah ok..well thats fine in the terminal! :)14:07
MKeigher83what about he GUI?14:07
UnixLoverWell you need to run xorg as admin14:07
dontknowMKeigher83, what king of changes do you do forexample?14:07
UnixLoversepoki im thinking14:08
MKeigher83install things on synaptic.14:08
MKeigher83go to change some system settings14:08
MKeigher83i just seem to get prompted a lot14:08
sepokiand the syntax of usage is java Test blabla.html14:08
MKeigher83i understand security, just anted to disable tat prompt all the time14:08
dontknowMKeigher83, it is expected behavior asking password when installing something14:08
UnixLoverSepoki You know that if you use * as a willdcard14:08
Dr_Willissystem settings would be differnt then installing packages.14:08
BrainFrostyAny small tools that chops up audio files?14:09
UnixLoverjava Test *14:09
sepokiUnixLover, i already tried but didnt  worked14:09
Dr_Willis!info sox14:09
ubottusox (source: sox): Swiss army knife of sound processing. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.3.2-3 (precise), package size 92 kB, installed size 209 kB14:09
UnixLoverWhat did it say14:09
dontknowMKeigher83, don't try to change that14:09
Dr_WillisBrainFrosty:  try sox14:09
BrainFrostyNice Dr_Willis14:09
BrainFrostythankz14:09
Dr_Willissox is a bit old-skool. so it might not support all file formats14:09
dontknow!info chromium14:09
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in precise14:09
dontknowxD14:09
UnixLoverchromium-browser14:09
UnixLoverIs package name14:10
dontknow!info chromium-browser14:10
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 18.0.1025.151~r130497-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 21157 kB, installed size 78055 kB14:10
duncan-nzHow do disable assisitive technologies? Can't find that setting in Unity14:10
numbiethis pisses me off14:10
dontknowubottu, why is it still 1814:10
dontknow:D14:10
* Dr_Willis heard they were waiting for Service pack one for Chromium to come out befor they release updates.......14:10
sepokiUnixLover, nothing just execute in one file14:10
* Dr_Willis ducks14:11
UnixLoverAre you in the folder that contains html files14:11
dontknowDr_Willis, what service pack, dont kiding around dude :D14:11
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/112432/chromium-19-for-ubuntu14:12
razeldaI keep getting  a signature error when i try to run updates is there a problem with the ubuntu repository ... by the way i tried thought the CLI and the GUI Updater... I'm also getting the same problem thought the software center14:14
dontknowDr_Willis, i know that link very well :D where does it say something about service pack14:14
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sepokiUnixLover, yeah14:15
sharp15is there a way to have the live cds display the boot messages during boot?14:17
UnixLoverf614:18
UnixLoverI thought it was14:18
Dr_Willisuse the advanced options  and use options like 'noquiet nosplash verbose nomodeset'14:18
Dr_WillisF5 or F6 i dont recall either14:18
sharp15ok. thanks.14:19
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antonhs14:22
duncan-nzanyone know how to disable assistive technology in unity?14:27
somersb3hi. can anyone help me with VPNC I am getting asked for the third password   "Password for VPN"  after i have topped in group and user password14:28
sepokiwhy this didnt work "java ParseHTML *.html"14:29
Dr_WillisHmm.14:30
Dr_Willissepoki:  the shell expands that to be  java paresehtml  every.html file.html that.html has.html14:30
Dr_Willis;) you get the idea.14:31
Dr_Willisif your app can handle such a list then it would work14:31
sepokihum14:31
zatanhey, how can i remove packgage NAGIOS3 ? I did sudo apt-get remove nagio3 but still in  /etc/14:31
sepokiit didnt run one-by-one14:31
sepoki:14:31
Dr_Williszatan:  if you mean the settings are there. you should 'purge' not remove14:31
sepoki?14:31
Dr_Willissepoki:  aparently the app cant handle a list of files14:32
sepokiit doesnt14:32
sepokiHow can i run one-by-one14:32
Dr_Willisso we are back to using the 'find' command, or some bash construct like i mentioned earlier....14:32
StramithHi14:32
mneptoksepoki: why not try asking in Java-related channels?14:33
sepokimneptok, cause its a shell problem dude14:33
sepokii think14:33
Dr_Willisits a user not knowing how to use the shell problem.14:33
Dr_WillisHmm My browers seems broken.14:33
mneptoksepoki: no, once that first command"java" gets run, the shell is out of it.14:33
Dr_Williscant find any find tutorials ;)14:33
Stramithsome women wanting to talk?14:35
mneptokStramith: wrong channel.14:35
sepokilol14:36
Stramithmneptok: what would be the channel?14:37
mneptokStramith: i don't know.14:37
mneptokStramith: but such things are unwelcome here.14:37
Stramithmneptok: Ok, tku14:38
mneptokStramith: de nada14:38
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sepokiDr_Willis, i didnt find nothing like that14:43
Stramith.I'm online on the site for ubuntu. how do I figure out the irc network to connect elsewhere?14:44
happyhow can i use bluestack in ubuntu using wine ???14:45
bazhanghappy, check the appdb14:45
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bazhanghappy then join #winehq14:45
bazhang!appdb | happy14:45
ubottuhappy: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help14:45
fastaFor lots of applications I get: error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory14:48
fastaUbuntu has no /usr/lib which seems to confuse the linker.14:48
fastaWhat's the idea behind that?14:48
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namoamitabuddhadoes vboxvideo support kms?14:51
sharp15does ubuntu keep the .deb files somewhere on the hard-drive after install?14:52
randomDudeyes sharp1514:52
EliahKagan@sharp15 yes, it keeps them in /var/cache/apt/archives14:52
namoamitabuddhauntil you do apt-get clen.14:53
namoamitabuddhaclean14:53
EliahKagan@fasta for liblzma.so.2, you probably just have to install the liblzma2 package14:53
EliahKaganas for /usr/lib/, Ubuntu certainly does have it ...does your Ubuntu system not have /usr/lib ?14:53
EliahKagan(that would be bad...)14:53
fastaEliahKagan: and how do I get it?14:53
sharp15darn.  that won't work.  nevermind.14:53
fastaEliahKagan:  apt-get install liblzma2 => not found14:53
EliahKagan@fasta what Ubuntu release are you running?14:54
fastaEliahKagan: ah, right, it does have it.14:54
fastaEliahKagan: I mean /usr/lib14:54
fastaEliahKagan: still no lzma14:54
sharp15i have a machine with a bad network card that i need to use for something.  was going to copy the .deb files between machines.  problem.  one machine is 64bit the other is 32 bit.14:54
Linux_userIs this safe setting for UFW? (Windows user here so Im kinda used to a different firewalls) http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1290/201205251648551024x768s.png14:55
fastaLinux_user: firewalls don't create secure systems.14:55
fastaLinux_user: correct code and defined security policies create secure systems.14:56
Linux_userfew ports scans dont show any open ports but still14:56
Linux_userfasta you realize I dont have a clue what you are talking about right?14:57
sharp15Linux_user: he means choosing well written and properly configured systems will secure something more effectively than a firewall.14:58
escottLinux_user, (a) you shouldnt need to specify outbound open ports, (b) why are you allowing tcp and udp on 6881, surely bittorrent is tcp only (c) resize your window to keep the posted images family friendly14:58
Lady-Tuxhttp://pastebin.com/GcYy4Zt3 <-- pls help14:59
Linux_userThx escott ,and pardon for that :D14:59
Lady-Tuxops14:59
Lady-Tuxsorry14:59
Lady-Tuxwrong window14:59
fastaLinux_user: if that's the case, then perhaps you shouldn't ask how to setup a firewall.14:59
fastaEliahKagan: is it in multi-verse or whatever it is that Ubuntu calls it?14:59
fasta,liblzma215:00
sharp15is there a way to have apt create a list of urls/files it wants downloaded to install something so i can do it on another machine using wget or something?15:00
Linux_userfasta that is your opinion ,nvm escott helped me on that subject.Bye15:00
miles_Hello15:00
EliahKagan@fasta sorry of you already said this, but what release of Ubuntu are you running?15:00
bazhang!clone | sharp1515:00
ubottusharp15: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate15:00
fastaEliahKagan: Precise15:00
miles_Issue: since a power failure while the computer was running, X can't start anymore on my machine15:01
miles_What can I do?15:01
bazhangsharp15, or use aptoncd if the arch is the same15:01
bazhang!aptoncd | sharp1515:01
ubottusharp15: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline15:01
EliahKaganfasta: liblzma2 is no longer provided in Precise :-(15:02
hudnixCan someone tell me how to get vuze icon to be visible in the panel in gnome?15:02
fastaEliahKagan: but there are still applications dependent on it.15:02
fastaEliahKagan: Ubuntu would have known this if they had executed every application at least one.15:02
fastaEliahKagan: once*15:02
EliahKaganwhat applications are giving the errors saying they need liblzma.so.2 ?15:02
elisaBonjour!15:02
sharp15bazhang: i'm not trying to clone.  i have a machine with a bad network card and someone who wants to use it to edit the occaisional word file (no need for the net).15:03
hudnixAfter upgrading, whenever I start vuze it is invisible because it starts minimized to the panel.15:03
bazhang!fr | elisa15:03
ubottuelisa: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:03
fastaEliahKagan: hmm, I think it was my environment. Never mind.15:03
bazhangsharp15, aptoncd then perhaps15:03
elisaSorry i haven't seen15:03
Shred00what has to happen to get the upload of changelogs to the changelog server to actually be reliable?15:03
Shred00where do i file a request/bug about this?15:04
EliahKaganfasta: yeah, when a project is built on Launchpad, the build should fail if it depends on any shared libraries that are not packaged15:04
y0om4is there a way to mv over existing files without using copy -Ru because cp -Ru would not do if you have limited space on a hard drive15:04
JeroenDeDauwCan anyone recommend a good VM to run Windows in when running Ubuntu? Stuff associated with Oracle gets automatically disqualified from being good ofc :)15:04
EliahKaganJoroenDeDauw: if you're willing to use proprietary software, in my experience VMware tends to outperform VirtualBox considerably15:05
sharp15bazhang: unfortunately.  this machine is 32bit and every other machine i own is 64bit.15:05
fastaJeroenDeDauw: I am not aware of anything which qualifies15:05
JeroenDeDauw:/15:06
fastaJeroenDeDauw: qemu-kvm does run it, but not with high-end graphics.15:06
EliahKaganVMware Workstation is proprietary payware but VMware Player is proprietary "freeware" and there are third party tools for creating empty VMs you can start with15:06
EliahKagandepending on your needs, Xen (which is free open source software) may work as well or better than VMware15:06
EliahKaganbut if you're looking for something like VirtualBox but technically better, IMO VMware Workstation fits the bill15:07
fastaJeroenDeDauw: virtualbox is GPL.15:07
JeroenDeDauwEliahKagan: fasta: ok, thnx :)15:07
EliahKagan@fasta it's an Oracle product though so presumably JeroenDeDauw does not want to use it15:07
escottfasta, but it has been touched by the oracle demon whose powers extend to destroy licenses... oh wait nevermind they lost to google15:07
Netheril Hello15:08
* sandyd go vmware!15:08
* sandyd hides15:08
EliahKaganfrom a perspective of staying free though, VirtualBox is FOSS, and VMware is not...15:08
EliahKagani'm not trying to dis VMware, i use it regularly, but if you want FOSS then virtualbox is a better call15:08
tattoli_he wants a vm guys not a software license15:09
EliahKaganhi Netheril15:09
Star2012is there a network admin here .. msg me plz15:14
Star2012network/server person15:14
NetherilHi master15:14
hairydogfound the coolest theme ever15:15
hairydogmac osx lion theme for ubuntu15:15
hairydogreally sweet15:15
mohtadihi everyone, i've a question please, i'm building my own kernel to get a custom os, i'm trying to make a 3G key work on it, for that i've to use usb_modeswitch , to switch from mass storage mode to modem mode and get the key on ttyUSB , the problem is that after launching  usb_switchmode, i get nothing on a ttyUSB, apparently it's a kernelconfig problem, does anyone know what should activate, include as a module and deactivate?15:15
amh345i've been trying to configure a session timeout in sshd_config, but no matter what i do it wont timeout.   here is what i have ClientAliveInterval 3   ClientAliveCountMax 1   is it possible im missing something? i dont see why it wont work.15:15
bazhanghairydog, avoid it15:15
hairydogwhy15:15
hairydogit's awesome15:15
bazhanghairydog, it breaks your system , is unsupported15:15
hairydogalready using it and I love it15:15
hairydogno it doesn't lol15:16
hairydogI've been using it just fine15:16
OnixsOn average rig, how long would it to backup a 1TB of data on another hd15:16
bazhanghairydog, thats fine, its unsupported.15:16
hairydoghttp://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/mac-os-x-lion-for-ubuntu-1204-precise.html15:16
hairydog^ that one?15:16
hairydogit just uses compiz, ubuntu tweak, and cairo dock15:16
bazhanghairydog, lets stay on topic for supported issues please15:16
bazhangStar2012, see your PM15:17
hairydogbazhang,  are we talking about the same theme at http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/mac-os-x-lion-for-ubuntu-1204-precise.html15:17
hairydog^ that one is unsupported?15:17
cccangelHey guys I am having an opengl crash with Ubuntu 12.04 intel drivers.  I have vmware workstation and every time I acheive aero with opengl through driconf, ubuntu freezes completely.  Its there a easy way to get an older/newer driver for intel graphics in ubuntu 12.04?15:17
ZenMasterI want to upgrade to 12.04 but I am afraid it is going to break stuff.15:18
ZenMaster:D15:18
cccangelI know i had this working in Ubuntu 11.10 intel drivers...15:19
Toph2ZenMaster,,, the 12.04 upgrade is the first in the last 3 that didn't break things for me15:20
hairydogcan I login to my yahoo account on empathy?15:20
escotthairydog, just select accounts, select yahoo, put the email address and password in15:21
[pq]hello. I've got some problem having DKMS build nvidia-current kernel module on 3.2.0-24-generic (ubuntu precise). Anyone can help me fix that?15:22
poire21Hi, my first time here. Can't login to my Ubuntu 12.04 setup, seems to be a problem with video. Thought maybe the update to Xorg...15:23
EliahKaganZenMaster: you may want to try 12.04 LTS out on a live CD/DVD or USB flash drive, before upgrading to it15:23
sandydpoire21: why can't you login? Password not accepting? screen not turning on?15:24
amh345is there something about my sshd_config question that prevents a response? i only ask because i've posed the question about 6 times in the last 24 hrs. heh15:24
escottamh345, probably because people dont know15:24
poire21Screen turns on, but instead of the usuall login screen (with familiar wallpaper) I get a terminal-esque screen stating the name of my computer and asking for my login (username) and then my password15:24
ant0neoanyone any idea Y I cannot log in 2 youtube on this machine after the latest updates?? I use ubuntu 10.04 LTS my other machine that has'nt been updated yet has'nt got this issue or AM I way off the mark in my consideration HERE??15:25
amh345escott: hmm. that's possible. i thought it would have been standard fare.15:25
sandydpoire21: Looks like Xorg died. What video card you using?15:25
amh345perhaps people dont ssh in very often15:25
hairydogescott, where do I select accounts at?15:25
EliahKaganOnixs: transfer rate from one drive to another depends on the drive speed (speed of the interface, drive's rotational speed if it's a traditional disk rather than SSD; and the speed supported by the drive's electronics), as well as the filesystem, whether you're copying a few big files or many smaller files, and whether or not you're using any kind of compression or encryption15:26
escotthairydog, from the contacts list edit->accounts15:26
sandydpoire21: you installed any proprietary drivers15:26
jacobpc-8917H15:26
sandydpoire21: from the additional drivers (jockey) thingy15:26
EliahKaganan extremely vague estimate for transfer rate is that it will probably be between 10 MB/s and 30 MB/s15:26
poire21I have an AMD Radeon 6870 1GB15:26
hairydogoh ok I found it thank you escott15:26
mohtadihi everyone, i've a question please, i'm building my own kernel to get a custom os, i'm trying to make a 3G key work on it, for that i've to use usb_modeswitch , to switch from mass storage mode to modem mode and get the key on ttyUSB , the problem is that after launching  usb_switchmode, i get nothing on a ttyUSB, apparently it's a kernelconfig problem, does anyone know what should activate, include as a module and deactivate?15:26
EliahKagancould well be much higher with SSD's though or much lower if you back up to a share over a slow network15:26
poire21Yes I had Catalyst installed from AMD15:26
poire21I had installed directly from AMD site15:27
sandydpoire21: ah.15:27
sandydpoire21: there is the problem.15:27
sandydpoire21: the one on the site does not rebuild whenever you update to a new kernel.15:27
poire21worked great, I simply rebooted after an update, which I seem to recall included Xorg15:27
hairydogsaying authentication failed :(15:27
poire21oh... crappy15:28
EliahKaganfor 1 TB of data, 10 MB/s takes about 28 hours, and 30 MB/s takes about 9 hours15:28
sandydpoire21: you need to remove the driver you installed, and reconfigure xorg15:28
sandydpoire21: Ill send you a wiki page on how to do that15:28
poire21Thank you so much!15:28
Toph2when I boot, I get the message,'Network Service discovery disabled. Your current network has a local......'. Is this a problem?15:29
sandydpoire21: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx15:30
[pq]hello. I've got some problem having DKMS build nvidia-current kernel module on 3.2.0-24-generic (ubuntu precise). Looks like there is some problem detecting configured headers. Anyone can help me fix that?15:32
poire21sandyd: so I have not worked in that mode before; should I just type the commands on the terminal-esque screen (after I input my login), or should I go to recovery mode15:32
sandydpoire21: Their the same15:33
EliahKaganpoire21: you should just be able to run those commands in a Terminal window15:33
EliahKaganyou can even paste them in15:33
unkn-errorhello15:33
EliahKaganif you don't have a GUI15:33
EliahKaganthen you can run them in a virtual console15:33
unkn-errorI connected to the server with putty and run tasksel15:33
unkn-errorand I have this pink screen http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/main/5/14502210258.jpg15:34
unkn-errorit is normal to be pink?15:34
poire21sandyd: Thank you so much for your help! Hopefully you won't see me here again in a few minutes ;-)15:34
EliahKaganunkn-error: yes15:34
sandydpoire21: your welcome :)15:34
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sandydI had a LED monitor when that purple screen flashed on. hurt my eyes so badly lol15:35
unkn-errorwierd in tuorial is blue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel15:35
EliahKaganif the command-line is pink before or after, that's weird, but it's normal for package management interfaces in Ubuntu that use ncurses to be pink/purple15:35
qubuntuwhen i started ubuntu i saw a "could not write byte: broken pipe" lol. should i be worried? :D15:35
EliahKaganive seen it both colors in different versions of Ubuntu and other Debian-based OSes15:36
unkn-errorI belived that is because of some putty settings15:36
EliahKaganthat makes sense -- sometimes i work via SSH, and sometimes not15:36
EliahKaganqbuntu: unless you're having other errors, i wouldn't worry about that -- i've seen that message when first booting up a number of times on different machines, without problems15:37
unkn-errorokay then15:37
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MyrttiAdvertising: stop it.15:40
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swebis any good script to create standard zone and reverse zone files on ubuntu/debian ?15:41
pravihello15:47
Unknown0BCHi, in oneiric when trying to use phpMyAdmin I get : Cannot start session without errors, please check errors given in your PHP and/or webserver log file and configure your PHP installation properly.15:47
pravianyone pls help15:47
Sidewinder!ask | pravi15:47
ubottupravi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:47
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jacobpc-8917!patience15:48
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:48
pravibattery detection problem in toshiba15:48
escottpravi, there are various acpi options to the kernel you can try15:49
pravitried someone but not successful15:49
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pravianyone have any idea15:50
mneptokpravi: LiveCD of another distro will tell you if this is a general kernel issue with that laptop.15:50
pravimneptok tried many versions but same problem15:51
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phunyguyis there a command line ALAC encoder to go from FLAC to ALAC in ubuntu? Ormaybe a dbpoweramp alternative?15:51
phunyguy(one that maintains 24bit audio unlike ffmpeg)15:52
mneptokpravi: then the Linux kernel itself is the problem. it is not Ubuntu specific. file bugs at kernel.org or use Ubuntu's bug system (launchpad.net) to report issues15:52
unkn-errorI have this problem, and It seems that I can not resolve it15:53
unkn-error" W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192 "15:53
unkn-errorI followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890&page=315:53
unkn-errorbut it dosen't fix it15:53
escottunkn-error, use apt-ket to add the key from the keyserver.ubuntu.com15:53
escottunkn-error, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C119215:54
kleewyckI have a ltsp server running Ubuntu 11.10 and my clients seem to work just fine. When update to 12.04 I have no audio on my clients. Anyone had this issue?15:54
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unkn-errorescott: so, the command will be sudo apt-get add http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192 ?15:56
Sidewinder!rootirc > Guest1007315:56
escottunkn-error, save that key (if you trust it you should verify) to a file and then run sudo apt-key add filename.pub15:56
moesOpened parted and recieved the following error: Unallocated partition table..invalid partition table on /dev/sda wrong signature 5954..This is my Ubuntu-10.04 partition.Any fix ??15:57
moes*gparted15:58
escottmoes, best bet is probably to build a new partition table that matches the old one EXACTLY15:58
escottmoes, and verify the disk isn't failing by checking the smart status15:58
jacomanh15:58
klynci have an nfs export with 'root_squash' option on the server, mounted on the client via autofs. i had to change a user's numeric uid and gid, which i did on both ends, but now the export shows up as nobody:nogroup. can't figure out what i'm missing. restarted nfs on the server and autofs on the client, but still not luck. ideas?15:58
unkn-errorso that will be, cd /home/wolfy/Downloads && wget http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192 && sudo apt-key filename15:59
markdtxtHi guys, i recently installed lmms on U.E 2.7 but the sound is not fuctioning. Please help.15:59
escottunkn-error, basically15:59
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GeekSquidunkn-error: you will have to strip the header from that file15:59
moesescott, I checked smart data and have one bad sector and alsoreallocated sector count warning16:00
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jacobpc-8917//msg nickserv identify jacoman treescape891716:00
escottjacobpc-8917, time to change the password16:01
GeekSquidjacobpc-8917: one less shash16:01
jacobpc-8917les16:01
jacobpc-8917yes16:01
NSNOoh wow16:01
unkn-errorhm http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006603/16:01
escottunkn-error, there is a & in the URL. it is not quoted or escaped so it backgrounded the first bit prior to the &16:02
GeekSquidunkn-error: goto http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192 and copy the text starting with -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- to a text file and save it to key.pub and use that file16:03
cdavisI am using byobu and when I cannot resize the pane to fit my window after using a virt-terminal. the screen is padded with "."16:03
escottunkn-error, it would be easier to just open the browser and copy and paste the keyblock. its ascii armored so you wont hurt it16:03
cdavisF5 doesn't resize the pane either16:03
unkn-errorI am connected with ssh to the server, so only cli16:04
GeekSquidunkn-error:  use nano, you can still paste using Ctrl-Shift-V16:04
unkn-errorgood point!16:05
persona24How can I have mutliple workspaces in KDE?16:05
moesescott, http://pastebin.com/B0psRgRf...data from fdisk -l I don't know what the qnx4.x entry is ..that partition was my swap file16:07
unkn-errorGeekSquid escott worked! :)16:08
GeekSquidmoes: that is a bad link16:08
escottmoes, you might want to use testdisk to verify your partition table16:09
escottmoes, but its going to be hard for us to make any kind of recommendation regarding a corrupted mbr16:09
persona24How can I have multiple workspaces in KDE?16:09
jagan_hmmmmmmmmm16:10
kirklandcdavis: then you have another window or user connected to the session elsewhere, with a smaller terminal16:11
kirklandcdavis: kill off that connection or user, and you'll be full screen again16:11
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moesescott, Would Super fdisk-1.0 also be an option16:15
GVolkmannHi all. I have a problem with Gnome3 crashing, appears to be something in the configuration. How do I completely delete a user profile for Gnome3 in 12.04?16:16
cdaviskirkland: yep, doh on my part. thanks16:16
escottmoes, dont know that tool, but something that scans the disk for superblocks to identify where filesystems begin and end would be advisable16:16
moesescott, Thanks for the info16:16
sfearsGVolkmann: create a new user and delete the home folder of the one that's having problems16:18
sfearsmake sure you backup all your documents16:18
sfearsor just delete all the .folders GVolkmann16:18
Riccardo!list16:19
ubottuRiccardo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:19
unkn-errorhow can I shut down the system? " halt " command will just "halt" the os, not power off the hardware16:19
GVolkmannsfears: yeah, I was affraid the answer was the hard way :( a bit of the baby is going out with the bath watter16:19
sfearsGVolkmann: before you delete anything16:20
sfearsGVolkmann: create a new user, log into it and see if it fixes your problem... if it does, it's something in your home folder.  if the new user doesn't fix it, it's something on the system side16:20
GVolkmannsfears: good idea.16:21
djszapihey, what is the name of the kernel package on ubuntu ?16:25
djszapiI would like to reinstall the kernle.16:25
djszapikernel, even.16:25
djszapiis it kernel-image ?16:26
* djszapi has no clue...16:26
sfearsyou wouldn't really reinstall the kernel djszapi, you could upgrade it16:26
nelson777brhello, I'm having problems with 12.04 video drivers. how can I active nouveau driver ? it is loading some generic driver ("renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)")16:26
djszapisfears: nope16:26
djszapisfears: I would like to reinstall it16:26
djszapisince it behaves weird after an sdcard clone.16:26
djszapiso what is the kernel package name ?16:27
nelson777brI want to restore to the default after instalation video configuration16:27
sfearslinux-image16:27
sfearsis you don't know what the package is called what makes you think it's the kernel causing issues djszapi?16:27
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nelson777brhello, I'm having problems with 12.04 video drivers. how can I active nouveau driver ? it is loading some generic driver ("renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)"). I want to restore to the default after instalation video configuration16:28
sfearsnelson777br: use the "restricted drivers" package16:29
sfearsnelson777br: "additional drivers"16:30
escottnelson777br, that is nouvea16:32
nelson777brescott: "renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)" is nouveau ?16:33
escottnelson777br, i believe so16:35
djszapisfears: please do not troll :)16:36
nelson777brCan anyone confirm "renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)" is nouveau ?16:36
nelson777brI mean, how can I check nouveau driver is active ?16:36
Guest16630turkce bılen varmı acaba16:37
jobinarAre there any drivers for touchpad in Ubuntu, since my touchpad has stopped working suddenly in the evening today. I don't remember having installed any drivers since i installed 11.1016:38
meharzadahello16:38
escottnelson777br, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/MesaDrivers16:38
meharzadahow can i get authanticaton password16:38
meharzada?16:38
escottmeharzada, password for what16:39
madwillCan anybody point to a low footprint stripped down ubuntu i could use16:39
madwilli need low memory and no usual services16:39
meharzadato insstall any application on note book16:39
escott!minimal | madwill16:39
ubottumadwill: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD16:39
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escott!root | meharzada does this answer your question16:40
ubottumeharzada does this answer your question: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo16:40
madwillthanks16:40
meharzadathere  is user authantication password requierd  m not geting it16:40
unkn-errorlinux-image-server work's also on latop?16:41
unkn-errorI am using a laptop as a server16:41
escottmeharzada, if your password doesnt work then you are not an admin. is this your own machine?16:41
meharzadawhat is user authantication password in 10.10 ?16:41
meharzadayea16:41
unkn-errorif I will install linux-image-server will wifi gonna work?16:41
Logos01Halloa! The 12.04 Ubuntu release's NetworkManager seems to be using dnsmasq on the local machine for dns setup. Is there a decent resource for configuring this?16:42
oCeanmeharzada: the sudo password is your own (user) password16:42
meharzadaescott its mine16:42
Logos01(I want to set up a '--server=' flag to that instance.)16:42
oCeanmeharzada: also, please note that 10.10 is end of life since april16:42
Logos01unkn-error: There's no reason it shouldn't.16:42
meharzadao cean its not working16:42
Logos01unkn-error: However, you can validate this by installing the package and checking for the modules within it before rebooting to it.16:42
oCeanmeharzada: does it work when you use it in a terminal?16:42
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unkn-errorhow do I check the modules?16:43
oCeanmeharzada: so on a terminal prompt, running   sudo -i   works with your own password?16:43
meharzadai diddent check it ocean16:43
duncan-nzNEW: how do I disable assistive technology?16:43
meharzadakindly can you tell me how it will b resolv16:44
escottmeharzada, what is the output of the "groups" command on the comman line16:44
oCeanmeharzada: please try it in a terminal first, so we know you are using the correct password16:44
nelson777brescott: thnx!16:45
splnetHow do I gracefully stop X from ? I've tried init 3.16:45
splnets/stop X from/stop X/16:45
escottsplnet, (a) you are by default at runlevel 2 and 2-5 are all the same. (b) sudo service lightdm stop16:45
Logos01unkn-error: modprobe -S {proper kernel version number} {modulename}16:45
yggdrasilgood day, i have a lenovo w510 with 12.4 and i cant get my secondary display working ..anyone have suggestions ?16:46
Logos01unkn-error: Correction... modprobe -S {kernel-version} -n {modulename}16:46
meharzadahow can i use  terminal . m new on ubnntu16:46
sfearsyggdrasil: have you looked in the display control panel?16:46
Logos01You'll have to figure out the module name for yourself but if it's an Intel driver it's likely iwlagn; if it's Atheros it's ath16:47
splnetescott: ok thanks16:47
yggdrasilsfears: yes, it doesnt show up there.16:47
yggdrasilonly the internal display is there.16:47
Logos01Anybody -- resources for modifying config of dnsmasq used by NetworkManager?16:47
oCeanmeharzada: you are new, but you are using release 10.10?16:47
sfearslook on your f1-f12 keys. is there a logo of a display on any of them? you may have to use the fn or ctrl key to turn on the secondary monitor.  laptops disable by default to save power16:48
meharzadayea16:48
racar_Hello folks,  i installed 12.04 and i have an issue. Sometimes the window menu ( at the top left ) , when i mouse over  the main level is displaying but not the second one. Its doing the same thing for all my window. Any idea ?16:48
oCeanmeharzada: please use a more recent version (12.04 is latest) Version 10.10 is end of life and no longer supported16:48
yggdrasilsfears: yea tried that too..16:48
meharzadacan i upgrade it16:48
meharzada?16:48
sfearsyggdrasil: have you looked in the additional drivers application to make sure you have non-generic drivers installed?16:48
oCeanmeharzada: yes, but fresh install is much easier16:48
oCeanmeharzada: it's a long way from 10.10 to 12.0416:49
djszapioCean: why ?16:49
oCeandjszapi: why what16:49
djszapiI can upgrade a more years old archbox without any issues16:49
djszapito the new system...16:49
yggdrasilsfears: yes, i have loaded the two different versions that are presented to me in the additional drivers and rebooted with both. no go :(16:49
meharzadaok nice but how can i resolve the issue which i m facing16:49
yggdrasilive googled and cant seem to find anything either.16:49
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AcidRain2012my ubuntu radio stream has streamed almost 20,000 songs :)16:50
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escottmeharzada, start by opening a terminal and typing "sudo echo success[ENTER]" and see if it prints success after you type in your password16:51
keen_Hi, is anyone familiar with the ban process on irc.icq.com? I am trying to sign in and it tells me I'm banned and I cannot make any sense of it...16:51
meharzadahow can i check the terminal16:51
meharzada?16:51
oCeandjszapi: ubuntu does not always have direct upgrade paths16:51
oCeanmeharzada: your version is too old, the repositories (software) is no longer available16:51
sfearsyggdrasil: what video card are you using?16:51
oCeanmeharzada: so, FIRST install a new version THEN come ask for support16:52
yggdrasilmmm16:52
yggdrasilits some nvidia16:52
L3topsOk, so after upgrading through from 1004 to 1204, my the only issues I encountered were flashplugin nomenclature breaking the upgrade to oneiric, and asterisk issues... which I got around... now in 1204 my dash home appears to be deaf dumb and blind to any applications I have. Nothing I type in there returns any results, and there are no defaults in there... filters set to all. Any ideas?16:52
sfearsand your desktop effects are working properly yggdrasil?16:52
yggdrasillet me check.16:52
yggdrasilsfears: yea everything works fine, except im trapped on the lapto pscreen.16:53
L3topsyggdrasil: lspci -nn | grep VGA16:53
yggdrasil01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [Quadro FX 880M] (rev a2)16:53
yggdrasilits a lenovo w51016:53
BA707Just successfully upgraded v10.04 to v12.04 LTS by following the upgrade instructions on the doc page (link provided here, Thank You trism).  No evident problems with the Intel i810 video chipset, unless you count lagging response.  VERY slow...16:53
L3topscan I get the same with the -nn in there please?16:54
uskerinehi, how can i modify the application list in unity FOR ALL USERS (like removing the Dash board icon from /usr/share/unity-2d/shell/launcher16:54
uskerine=16:54
Slakkan#Hello16:54
sfearsyggdrasil: in the display control panel is there a second monitor picture displayed at all?  are you 100% that the 2nd monitor is plugged in? does it say no signal?16:54
meharzadaok thanks bye16:54
yggdrasilit is plugged in16:54
splnetHow do I display the grub boot screen on boot?16:55
yggdrasiland if i close the lid when i turn it on, the initial bio screen appears on the external display until... x loads i believe.16:55
L3topssplnet: press shift a few times during boot16:55
yggdrasilyes, i am positibe its not there, just checked16:55
yggdrasil\\]16:55
splnetL3tops: thanks.16:56
L3topsyggdrasil: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you have one... which I think you will need to run dual monitors)16:56
splnetWhat does ubuntu use instead of inittab? /etc/inittab doesn't seem to exist16:56
AcidRain2012for some odd reason i cant left click on my desktop16:57
AcidRain2012or any files in any folder16:57
AcidRain2012how do i fix this?16:57
AcidRain2012i cant even left click on the channels16:57
AcidRain2012i can only left click on the bottom bar, and top bar16:57
yggdrasilL3tops: sure give me a minute16:57
AcidRain2012everything else is right click only16:57
AcidRain2012eh.... ill just restart16:58
uskerinehi, where is the configuration file to select which applications are displayed for new users in the panel?16:59
yggdrasilL3tops: http://pastebin.ca/215398517:00
L3topsthat would be your problem yggdrasil17:00
L3topsyggdrasil: ctrl alt f2, then: sudo service lightdm stop; sudo nvidia-xconfigure17:01
yggdrasilindeed.17:01
yggdrasilone sec.17:02
yggdrasili have to take acare of a bit of gui work.17:02
L3topsI do not know how to fix dash home in 1204 if it cannot display or find anything. Would appreciate some help (upgraded here from 1004)17:03
WizardL3tops: Do same problem ocurr in Unity-2d?17:04
L3topsExcellent question... I am sort of a KDE guy... where do I change that Wizard?17:04
SlakkanI'm trying to install LinuxMint. Im partitioning the drive for 50gb. When it asks for mount point do i choose / or /boot to put it on the boot loader?17:05
* L3tops is really sort of a terminal guy17:05
L3tops!mint | Slakkan17:05
ubottuSlakkan: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:05
WizardYou have to log out and change session in login manager :)17:05
guntbert!upstart | splnet17:05
ubottusplnet: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/17:05
L3topsty Wizard.17:05
L3topsBRB17:05
yggdrasilL3tops: i am too.17:05
yggdrasili just happen to by tryign to get some work done here :)17:05
yggdrasilYou will see this irssi session does not disconnet; )17:06
yggdrasilgive me a few i gotta work.17:06
yggdrasilyou going to be around for a bit ?17:06
WizardWho?17:06
yggdrasilL3tops:17:06
WizardL3tops: Is here pretty often.17:06
WizardHe said BRB, so prolly he'll be here :D17:07
bhull05Hello. I'm having an issue while attempting to format a laptop into ubuntu. I have tried using a USB flash drive and a CD and I encounter the same issue, after the installation process commences the screen freezes for 2 minutes and I get a screen of black and white horizontal bars frozen permanently until a forced reboot. Help anyone?17:07
guntbertyggdrasil: please take it easy on the <enter> key :), and it usually helps all if you put the nick of a person you are talking to at the start of your line17:07
bjorkintoshmy dell laptop has buttons for controlling the volume and for muting ...17:08
bjorkintoshsomehow, mute works properly, but unmute does not.17:08
bjorkintoshhow're the buttons associated with the volume controls?17:08
amh345when running a command like cpulimit -e process -l 40  < is this permanent or does it revert when rebooted?17:09
bjorkintoshamh345, reverts.17:09
bjorkintoshit only becomes 'permanent' if you set it every time you boot up.17:09
amh345oh ok.  thank you.17:09
bjorkintoshor if the values are saved somewhere.17:09
Wizardamh345: you can add it /etc/rc.local17:10
amh345and just so i understand.  that's 40% of the CPU, correct?17:10
amh345Wizard: thank you117:10
rbrooksbjorkintosh, check out acpid17:10
Wizardbhull05: ping.17:10
Wizardbhull05: Does it freeze after you hit "Restart"?17:10
dijonyummyhow are you folks liking 12.0417:11
bhull05Wizard: No, it freezes when I press "Run Ubuntu from USB Drive"17:12
bjorkintoshdijonyummy, i've been on it for a few months now.17:12
bjorkintoshhmm. i wonder. anyone using 3.4 yet?17:12
Wizard3.what? :>17:12
bhull05Wizard: Then, it scrolls through a wall of text and the purple Ubuntu screen comes up, but after the 5 dots go from white to orange it freezes for about 2 minutes, and then the black and white bar screen comes up.17:13
bjorkintoshWizard, kernel.17:13
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innocivI installed some things from FUBAR, the same thing but different versions, and now it's really fubar. How do I clean it up?17:13
Wizardbjorkintosh: 3.2.0-24-powerpc-smp17:13
Wizardbhull05: Which gfx card? Optimus?17:14
bhull05Wizard: Graphics card?17:14
WizardYup.17:14
pieruccio!list17:15
ubottupieruccio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:15
L3topsYes wizard, same in 2d or 3d.17:15
bhull05Wizard: Geforce GTS 360M17:15
rbrooks!appz17:15
rbrookscrap17:16
Wizardbhull05: Hmm. This has to be something with gfx card. It is possible to change video mode during cd boot, but I've forgotten how ;P17:16
L3topsbhull05: have you installed the nvidia drivers?17:17
WizardL3tops: He's booting LiveCD ;]17:18
L3topsdoh17:19
WizardL3tops: I also don't know how to help you with Dash. Look at .xsession-errors, maybe some config file is screwed.17:19
WizardI mean broken ;P17:19
L3topstry booting with the nomodeset option bhull0517:19
bhull05L3tops: Now I'm encountering another issue while attempting to install. I have a thread on the ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986548   ... Please take a look becuase this is the screen I'm currently encountering.17:19
pierucciohallo17:20
dijonyummyis there a command line torrent client17:20
nemodijonyummy: several17:20
Wizarddijonyummy: Lots.17:20
nemodijonyummy: you can even run azureus on a commandline17:21
dijonyummynemo: cool, which is good and easy to use17:21
nemodijonyummy: which is kinda handy if you want to switch back and forth17:21
pieruccioirc.rizon.net17:21
nemodijonyummy: *shrug* that's personal taste17:21
nemoI mentionedo ne17:21
nemoI'm currently seeding Hedgewars tar.bz2 and exe in azureus, but that's mostly laziness.  I did experiment w/ some others but had various configuration issues17:22
innociv_"libmysqlclient15off: 5.1.30really5.0.83-0ubuntu3 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with libmysqlclient15off:i386 5.0.96-0ubuntu1 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed17:22
innociv_"17:22
innociv_"sudo dpkg -r libmysqlclient15off"17:22
innociv_ tells me it's not installed17:22
Wizardnemo: I think transmission has CLI too.17:22
nemoWizard: ah. good to know.17:23
CiDhedNeed some help.17:23
CiDhedIs there any way to make a limited user have the ability to connect to a wifi network without requiring password?17:23
Wizardnemo: I'm not sure, check apt ;]17:23
Wizardnemo: Yup, it does :P17:24
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Wizardnemo: If Transmission has, than what else one needs? :D17:24
L3topsinnociv_: sudo dpkg -r libmysqlclient15off:i38617:24
bhull05Wizard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986548 Here I created a thread describing my issue. If you could take a quick glance I'd appreciate it. I can't figure out how to set the nomodeset as this gentlemen suggests though. Any help would be great.17:25
nemoWizard: well, I've been using azureus for years. but might be worth moving.17:25
L3topsCiDhed: The only way I can think to do it is to script a connection to a SSID that doesn't change.17:25
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rodhashHello guys.... what is the mta installed on ubuntu??? I see there's no sendmail and postfix... my messages file also is not being used...17:26
L3tops!nomodeset | bhull0517:26
ubottubhull05: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:26
Wizardbhull05: I can, but I'm not good at this gfx issues.17:26
nemoWizard: hm. 9 years to be specific17:26
Wizardkewl ;]17:26
beandogrodhash: ssmtp?17:27
CiDhedI am building portable laptops that need to be able to connect to public wireless points.17:27
CiDhedI don't want to give them root though.17:27
beandognetworkmanager17:27
rodhashbeandog, there's no ssmtp installed too17:28
beandogrodhash: hmm, dunno then17:28
CiDhedInstall network manager?17:28
CiDhedMaybe I can just use wicd.17:28
L3topsWizard: all my lenses are crashing... just going with xfce4... thanks17:28
WizardLül.17:29
WizardL3tops: np ;]17:29
WizardL3tops: have you checked that error file?17:29
WizardUnity is really worth trying.17:29
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rodhashbeandog, no :/17:29
WizardIf you don't have many specific options, you can also remove .config .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd and so ;]17:29
L3topsyes... I have other performance issues with it on this junk ATI... just going a bit lighter weight. I have no shortage of machines to run it on17:30
bustabustCIFS mounting issue... I have a drobo NAS with a share called central. I can 'smbclient -L drobo-primary' and see the share called central. However when I run the command 'sudo mount -t cifs -o username=bustabust,password=mypass //10.10.1.150/central /mnt/drobo' error says Unable to find suitable address. Any ideas? I've googled the heck out of this thing17:30
nemoWizard: I'm trying hard to get used to it.  Still handles apps like Eclipse badly though (loses track of it and tries to launch again instead of switching)17:30
nemoWizard: also lack of applets *really* pisses me off. I miss my cpu/network monitors17:30
Wizardnemo: Java apps are easy to fix.17:31
WizardI did that with my IntelliJ <317:31
L3topsCiDhed I didn't think about that... maybe you could launch wicd as root from startup17:31
Wizardnemo: you just have to edit their desktop file and add StartupWMClass.17:31
nemoWizard: oh. and if I launch 2 instances of firefox, even with completely different paths, (/home/nemo/firefox.nightly/firefox vs /usr/bin/firefox) it thinks they are same firefox as on launcher, and clicking focuses the nightly one.   I guess I could try making another launcher, now that I learned alacarte is the workaround for their removing that capability from pretty much anywhere17:32
CiDhedL3tops, that is what I am trying now.17:32
nemoWizard: now about those applets... :-p17:32
WizardWhich you can get by running xprop.17:32
CiDhedwicd has always been a decent network manager. Don't know why it isn't the main in ubuntu.17:32
Wizardnemo: Unity uses WM_CLASS to sort windows.17:32
WizardFirefox will allways be Firefox ;]17:32
nemoWizard: that has nothing to do with firefox17:33
WizardIt has.17:33
nemoWizard: and everything to do w/ launching another app w/ same name but totally different location17:33
WizardI told you, Unity uses WM_CLASS window hint.17:33
nemoWizard: you did mention, I'm just saying how it is annoying as a user17:34
WizardApplications usually use *same* WM_CLASS regardless of version or path.17:34
nemoI don't particularly care *what* they chose to do. they are just replacing an interface that did work17:34
Wizardnemo: You can't do anything with this.17:34
Wizardnemo: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback17:34
lellohi guys, i've a desktop with an i5 and an ati 6750. With proprietary ati drivers, 3d won't work, instead if I use the integrated intel everything works fine, except sometimes17:34
WizardNothing is being replaced :/17:34
nemoWizard: this was more about your "unity is really worth trying" so I mentioned my trying, and things encountered.  I could go on17:35
nemoWizard: for example, Unity2D makes resizing windows almost impossible17:35
lellosometimes, desktop start withouth 3d working17:35
lelloand I don't know why17:35
nemothere's an open bug on that. has been open for a while17:35
Wizardnemo: Yes, I know.17:35
nemomy SO is using Unity2D 'cause 3D was too unreliable (crashy/sluggish) on her intel gfx card17:36
WizardI got used to alt+right click resize years ago, so I don't care ;P17:36
nemoWizard: yeeeah. 'scuse me for not recommending that to her.17:36
ferrisI am having a problem starting audacity... with errors.... something to do with alsa or possible jack... so i ran the script and uploaded the output to http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=1e069eb0ac6fa82fb489549ceca37fc5affa0d3e17:36
nemoWizard: I'm experimenting w/ MATE but unfortunately it still doesn't play nice w/ Gnome3 installed17:36
Wizardnemo: This bug is a metacity bug actually.17:36
nemoWizard: maybe soon.17:36
nemoWizard: well. metacity + excessively thin border themes in default Unity2D17:37
nemoWizard: shouldn't give users a non-functional experience in the interests of style17:37
cypher-neonemo: Don't like Unity? Try something else, like Xubuntu or GNOME-Shell.17:37
nemocypher-neo: ...17:37
dlentznemo, you should try the Mint 13 MATE edition17:37
codeM0nK3Yhow can i check which version of php is in the repos? the lampstack page says php5, but that could mean 5.1 for all I know17:38
ferrisnot really sure why audacity is not working17:38
nemodlentz: hm. I was using the one off the ubuntu PPA - is it significantly different in Mint?17:38
ferriscan someone help me out with this?17:38
cypher-neonemo, I found an amazing XFCE distro called Voyager. It doesn't use Unity at all so you shouldn't have a problem it.17:38
ferrisand thanks in advanced17:38
nemodlentz: main issue was w/ config daemon startup errors, causing most of config to be unusable. someone blamed that on having Gnome3 installed17:39
lellono one may help me?17:39
guntbert!details | ferris17:39
ubottuferris: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:39
Wizardnemo: Usually new users are amused by Unity.17:39
nemodlentz: but I was unwilling to remove Gnome3 - esp since I'm experimenting w/ MATE to try and find my mom a migration path off 11.04 that she's been trapped on17:39
WizardIt works. It's predictable. Preconfigured.17:39
cypher-neoferris, You're having problems with Sound? Go to Advanced Settings, and click on Sound. Make sure the Sound is turned up and not muted, and then from Sound Settings you can run tests and see why it's not working.17:39
nemoWizard: heh. unless they use Unity2D17:39
Wizardnemo: I do.17:39
nemothen they are amused in not-a-fun-way17:39
WizardReligion forbids me using Compiz.17:40
Wizard;P17:40
nemounity2d also made moving apps between monitors almost impossible17:40
WizardLet's take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.17:40
nemoway too hard to drag them around17:40
nemoWizard: these are legit bugs that I'm looking for fixes on. hardly off-topic17:40
Wizardnemo: I got thing into my hands and fixed a bug myself.17:40
WizardI added patch to launchpad issue, but *nobody* did *anything* with it.17:41
nemoanother fun one w/ 2 monitor setup. experimenting w/ disabling laptop monitor and just using plugged in one. every time she reboots I have to disable the laptop monitor again, it always forgets.  That one might be lowerlevel than Unity I guess, although XFCE did not do this17:41
WizardFor more than a week.17:41
Wizard;]17:41
Wizardnemo: I agree, many things need polishing.17:41
nemoto put it mildly :)17:41
WizardBut. I appreciate one thing.17:41
Wizardnemo: ;)17:42
nemoWizard: they haven't even gotten to the level of function my mom has been used to for years in Gnome2 :)17:42
cypher-neonemo, Out of curiousity, which XFCE distro did you use? Standard Xubuntu, or another X flavor?17:42
WizardYes, I know.17:42
guntbertnemo: sop that ranting please17:42
guntbert*stop17:42
schultzahow do i check to see how much physical memory i have?17:42
WizardBut at least Linux has *unique* GUI.17:42
ferrisguntbert... when i start audacity it silently quits. When I start it in a terminal it gives errors and quits.... never gets to the ui17:42
nemoguntbert: those aren't rants. those are a list of bugs. if you know of workarounds or fixes, you could be helpful instead of rude. if you're an admin, well, still being rude17:42
dlentzschultza, sudo dmidecode17:43
WizardAnd I was waiting for this for more than 10 years.17:43
ferristhe alsa-info information is posted at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=1e069eb0ac6fa82fb489549ceca37fc5affa0d3e17:43
nemocypher-neo: I'm not using an XFCE4 distro - I install it on standard ubuntu17:43
L3topsschultza: cat /proc/meminfo will tell you more than you ever wanted to know :)17:43
nemocypher-neo: just one more window manager17:43
WizardBesides, Unity's gui reminds me WindowMaker ;P17:43
guntbertnemo: this is a support channel, no developers here17:43
WizardI used to like WindowMaker.17:43
nemoguntbert: yes. and those are user interface bugs. perhaps there are workarounds or fixes.17:43
ferrisI am not having playback issues as i can listen to music, watch videos ect... just can't start audacity17:44
guntbertferris: send the output of audacity to a !pastebin17:44
dlentzferris, have you made any attempt to google the error you receive from audacity in the terminal?17:44
Wizardnemo: join #ubuntu-offtopic.17:44
nemoguntbert: I'm quite familiar w/ how to find the dev channel thanks, just none of this is appropriate to it :-p17:44
schultzathere was another command that showed both physical and page/disk memory used and total17:44
ferrisyes17:44
WizardWe can talk freely there.17:44
guntbert!google | dlentz17:44
ubottudlentz: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.17:44
L3topsschultza: top will also tell you about resources.17:44
cypher-neonemo, Oh, okay. I experimented with a sweet XFCE distro last week called Voyager.17:45
escottschultza, free -m17:45
WizardBah.17:45
schultzathanks17:45
nemocypher-neo: unfortunately XFCE4 is still not too novice friendly. even doing something simple like adjusting clock. also config is not very integrated/consistent. I wouldn't inflict it on my mom17:45
ferrisdlentz, yeah i have which is why i am hoping someone can take a look at the output and tell me what I need to do17:45
dlentzguntbert, thanks for the information (that i've seen a bazillion times), but i did not tell anyone to google anything, just asked if they already had17:45
nemoWizard: have more than enough channels open in irssi. thanks anyway.17:45
Wizard:S17:45
WizardToo bad, it was such a interesting discussion.17:46
ferristhis just started after the upgrade to 12 lts17:46
guntbertferris: you need to show us the output :-) (use a pastebin please)17:46
cypher-neonemo, Funny... I just adjusted my clock....17:46
cypher-neonemo, Didn't seem too hard to me.17:47
nemocypher-neo: try timezone :-p17:47
dlentzferris, yes, do as guntbert suggested and pastebin the error17:47
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cypher-neonemo, Oh... I see what you mean.17:47
unkn-erroris webmin safe or is a security flaw?17:47
ferrisNot sure it will display properly in pastebin but we will see17:47
guntbert!webmin | unkn-error17:47
ubottuunkn-error: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.17:47
ferrisok... it looks like it will work17:48
unkn-erroris there an free alternative to webmin and cpanel?17:48
ferrishttp://pastebin.com/jM4SKaFm17:48
cypher-neonemo, Actually... once I put my mind to figuring it out, it wasn't too difficult to do.17:49
guntbertferris: that is the output of audacity?17:50
nemocypher-neo: oh? is there a nice gui for it? last I checked it still had to be done on commandline17:50
ferrisdlentz guntbert  It is in paste bin... those are the outputs from the alsa-info script17:50
nemounacceptable for mom or SO17:50
cypher-neonemo, I opened Settings, clicked on Calendar, and there was a Timezone option.17:50
ferrisguntbert, yes17:50
nemocypher-neo: oh. haha. that doesn't actually change it :)17:50
nemoyes. I know. also. really hard to navigate17:50
ferrisguntbert, no... that is from alsa17:50
ferrisnot audacity17:50
guntbertferris: I expected the output of audacity, but maybe someone else will be able to see problems in the alsa-info17:51
CiDhedFigured it out, if anyone cares17:52
schultzaCiDhed: figured what out?17:52
ferrisguntbert,  this is the output from audacity http://pastebin.com/ZPe4zpxR17:52
CiDhedLimited users not being able to connect to new public networks without a root password.17:52
cypher-neod3m!urg34rch0n$17:53
cypher-neoLOL. Typing in the wrong window17:53
schultzaCiDhed: is a fix for that?17:53
guntbertferris: now I see why you posted the alsa-info - alas I am not able to help with those issues - sorry17:53
roasted_Anybody running Motion? I'm trying to set up multiple cameras and am curious about the motion.conf file. With multiple cameras, you use the thread.conf files (1 per camera). Okay fine. But in motion.conf, /dev/video0 still takes primary unless I have a netcam_url specified. So what do I do for this portion of the file when the cams should be configured in thread1.conf, etc?17:54
guntbertcypher-neo: change that password ;-)17:54
CiDhedschultza, yeah, you edit the network manager policy in /usr/share/polkit-117:55
schultzanevermind... ill be back. rebooting for ubuntu updates (cups, unity)17:55
cypher-neoguntbert, lol. Yeah17:55
CiDhedThere really should be a permissions application.17:55
dlentzferris, you should really report the segmentation faoult on launchpad. audacity shouldn't be doing that even if it has issues with your sound17:55
ferrisI have clicked submit a report when the dialog box popped up... is that the same as using launchpad?17:56
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dlentzferris, yes, do you have a link?17:56
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ferrisno.17:56
ferrisi start audacity and then it gives me the report a problem... so I click  submit a problem17:57
patc1Hello, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on notebook. If using single screen (external), I can use kaffeine. If I activate the notebook screen too, kaffeine does not work (no image, but still sound OK). This all works fine under 10.10, but 10.10 is no longer supported. I think it comes from xorg or something about the screens management... any idea please?17:57
ferrishaven't gone into anything else17:58
dlentzferris, does tha bring up a browser??17:58
ferrisno17:58
schultzaim back17:58
dlentzbug 99068317:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 990683 in audacity (Ubuntu) "Audacity crashes when run" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99068317:59
ferriswhen i start it with sudo... i get a pop up that says... Audacity could not find a place to store temporary files.17:59
ferrisPlease enter an appropriate directory in the preferences dialog.17:59
dlentzsee if workaround in comment 5 on that bug fixes it17:59
anelsHi, guys. Does anyone know how to configure the compression rate when create an archive?17:59
Wizardanels: Yes, gzip has switches from -1 to -9.17:59
ferristhen I get another dialog box... that says...18:00
escottanels, gzip -#18:00
WizardSee man gzip for details.18:00
ferrisDo you want to report the problem now?18:00
ferrisI click report problem...18:00
WizardOther compressors have simmilar params.18:00
anelsThanks, how about GUI? I mean I like right-click compress18:00
ferristhen it asks for admin pass18:00
dlentzferris, see if workaround in comment 5 on that bug fixes it https://launchpad.net/bugs/99068318:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 990683 in audacity (Ubuntu) "Audacity crashes when run" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:01
do1080why does the command who return 0 users?  specifically the chain "who | wc -l"18:01
do1080does it not count myself?18:01
ferrisok18:01
ferristhanks18:01
dlentzferris, i have to go, but good luck18:01
patc1nobody?18:01
Wizarddo1080: It should.18:01
escottdo1080, who only counts tty's and psuedo ttys. not all terminal like applications open a tty18:01
do1080makes sense18:01
do1080thanks18:01
escottdo1080, guake for one doesn't although im not sure what it does if it doesnt have a tty...18:02
do1080appreciate the response; have a nice day18:03
LaykeI'm trying to kill a process.. it's not dying.. sudo kill pid18:03
LaykeI'm in the list of sudoers18:03
schultzatry "kill -9 [pid]"18:03
LaykeThanks18:04
LaykeThat killed it.18:04
LaykeWhat was the difference?18:04
biebubuntu 12.04 LTSP.. trying to install Firefox as local app... did chroot /opt/ltsp/i386.. apt-get update.. apt-get install firefox.. Unable to locate Firefox...  what is the package name for Firefox?  It used to be just "firefox"18:05
escottLayke, a different signal was sent -9 is SIGHUP i believe18:05
schultzaLayke: some programs may have NOHUP status on them which keeps them running, or there is another reason. The kill -9 forces it to close like the system is shutting down. Please read the "man kill" about it for more information.18:05
patc1Hello, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on notebook. If using single screen (external), I can use kaffeine. If I activate the notebook screen too, kaffeine does not work (no image, but still sound OK). This all works fine under 10.10, but 10.10 is no longer supported. I think it comes from xorg or something about the screens management... any idea please?18:05
ferrisdlentz, it worked... thanks a lot18:06
cccangelpatc1, have you tried dual booting an install of 12.04 to see if that helps fixing the problem?18:06
LaykeThanks for the tip.18:07
schultzaLayke: yw18:07
patc1cccangel: no. I know that it works under 10.10. What I would like to know is how to make it work under 10.04.18:07
SyriaPlease help me with applying a socks proxy system wide on Kubuntu 12.04.18:07
patc1cccangel: so I think it'll be OK under 12.04... but I need it to work under 10.0418:07
uofm49426can i upgrade from lts to lts18:08
uofm49426can i go from 11.04 to 12.0418:08
schultzauofm49426: there is a current problme with that from the last lts to this new one. They are frantically working on it now.18:08
cccangelpatc1, what kindof grpahics card are you on?18:08
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patc1cccangel: intel graphics I can check more in details if needed18:09
dilloncan someone help me with an issue i seem to be having? i can get WoW to run in ubuntu but i get low FPS18:09
uofm49426so right nows i have to step to 11.10 before going to 12.0418:10
dillon?18:10
cccangelpatc1, thats all i need to know.  i think your best bet is to look into https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa and see what that can offer as for a graphics update ...18:11
schultzauofm49426: actually, there is a problem with that too. But at this time, thats the upgrade path.18:11
fixtehinterwebshi! i'm using 12.04 and i'm having issues with tomcat. Specifically, i have a deployed application that wants to write logs to ${catalina.home}/logs , and what that yields is an error in catalina.out which complains about ioexceptions in /usr/share/tomcat6/ . That directory contains no symlink to /var/log/tomcat6 . So i add an export for CATALINA_HOME in root's .bashrc pointing to /usr/lib/tomcat6 , but funnily enough that pr18:11
bazhangdillon, via wine?18:11
dillonyessir18:11
fixtehinterwebsso, i dig up the /etc/init.d/tomcat6 file, and that declares a CATALINA_HOME at /usr/share/tomcat618:11
bazhangcheck the appdb and /join #winehq dillon18:11
patc1cccangel: thank you, I'll have a look!18:11
bazhang!appdb | dillon18:11
ubottudillon: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help18:11
dillonty sirt18:12
fixtehinterwebswhich is whats breaking my application, but i need /usr/lib/tomcat618:12
dillonsirs18:12
cccangelpatc1, because 11.10 uses an updated xserver, mesa, and etc... and they backport newer versions ..18:12
fixtehinterwebsso, wtf18:12
fixtehinterwebsubuntu, Y U BREAK MY TOMCAT?18:12
uofm49426ill just go to 11.04 till i can pick up a cdr18:12
patc1cccangel: but do you have an idea why it works under 10.10? I know it's not easy! ;)18:13
fixtehinterwebsfurthermore, ubuntu, Y U KEEP CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE in different directories, without symlinks, and causing this kind of migration work a fucking pain in the ass?18:13
bazhangfixtehinterwebs, no cursing here18:14
cccangelpatc1, the reason it works is because it uses a newer xserver, and xorg drivers that are stable and realized around that time period18:14
fixtehinterwebspardon bazhang , but still, WTF?18:14
bazhangfixtehinterwebs, stop it.18:15
patc1cccangel: OK I understand. Maybe I can find a way to goaround it! :)18:15
hairydogI love ubuntu18:15
Syriabazhang: Do you have a minute please?18:15
patc1cccangel: thanks for your help.18:15
cccangelpatc1, your best bet is use bleeding edge updates for that version18:15
bazhangSyria, ask the channel, if they know the answer someone will try18:15
cccangelpatc1, aka... the link i gave you18:15
patc1cccangel: yes oki, thanks!18:15
hairydogbazhang, do you know how to view ubuntu shares?18:16
hairydogI need to see what folders I'm sharing18:16
fixtehinterwebsbazhang: i apologize, but that doesnt make me less in need of help and less pissed off at how a distro is breaking my webapps18:16
SyriaHow can apply a socks proxy system wide please?? Kubuntu 12.04.18:16
bazhanghairydog, samba shares? nfs? please clarify18:16
hairydogsamba18:16
unkn-erroruff18:16
bazhanghairydog, are you sharing between windows and ubuntu?18:16
hairydogtrying to18:17
unkn-errori tried this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006820/ but I still have no bootscreen / bootsplash18:17
hairydogI just want to see what folders I have shared so far18:17
naryfaHi everyone18:17
bazhanghairydog, got the drive mounted in fstab?18:17
hairydognot sure what fstab is18:17
schultzahairydog: ddid you install samba-server ?18:17
hairydogI'm new to ubuntu18:17
hairydogumm let me show you18:17
bazhang!fstab | hairydog18:17
ubottuhairydog: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions18:17
hairydoghang on 1 sec18:17
roasted_hairydog: what's the goal here? To have shared folders on Ubuntu that Windows can access?18:18
schultzahairydog: samba client is already installed by default. server side is not18:18
roasted_schultza: I've never installed samba-server, and I've always hosted shares on my ubuntu system.18:18
bytemanIf I run <<$ echo -e "foo">> I get "foo", but if I run <<$ sh -c 'echo -e "foo"'>> I get "-e foo" ---why do I get the "-e" in the second example?18:18
baazigar|rajatThe following packages have unmet dependencies:18:18
unkn-errorhow can I disable the boot splash to see only the text when it's booting? at least if is not working too see a text on the screen, not just a dark / blank screen18:18
roasted_in fact, samba-server isn't even a valid package in 12.0418:18
baazigar|rajatgnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed18:19
baazigar|rajat               Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed18:19
hairydogI followed this guide18:19
hairydoghttps://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html18:19
baazigar|rajathi i am getting this error when installing tweak tool18:19
schultzaroasted_: with this install of 12.04, ive had to physically installed [smb|samba]-server to get it working.18:19
roasted_schultza: samba-server is not a valid package in ubuntu 12.0418:19
hairydogand yeah the goal is to have ubuntu folders that I can view from my windows machine18:19
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: Do you have PPAs installed?18:19
roasted_E: Unable to locate package samba-server18:19
baazigar|rajatno18:19
escottbyteman, compare to /bin/bash -c 'echo -e "foo"'18:19
hairydogso far I have gotten it to where I can see my ubuntu vm, and can see the folder I shared, but when I try to open it, windows asks for authentication, I want it not to do that so I can just view the folder18:19
schultzawell, i know i had to install some sort of server package in connection with samba to get mine to work18:20
vekexasiaHello all, i've just installed ubuntu on my desktop machine. Do you know which daemon is listening on port 53 ?18:20
roasted_hairydog: that guide looks good. However, if you want a more "no bs" way to configure samba, check out system-config-samba... it's a small but easy to use GUI to handle those tasks.18:20
hairydogsudo apt-get install system-config-samba ??18:20
roasted_hairydog: personally, when I began to tinker with samba, the config file kind of had me confused, so I would make changes in the gui and check the config file to see what the gui changed. From there, I learned much quicker.18:20
roasted_hairydog: yes18:20
hairydogk ty18:20
baazigar|rajatL3tops: is there no way to solve this dependency error???18:20
hairydogI'll check it out18:20
roasted_hairydog: it's also in the software center, listed as "samba", but just run that in terminal and you'll download it.18:20
hairydogI'm falling in love with ubuntu18:21
roasted_hairydog: it'll show up in your menu as Samba... need root to open the application. From there you can set up shares and whatnot. You'll see when you get there, but like I said, check out the smb.conf when you're done making changes. It'll help you learn.18:21
hairydogthe more I learn the more I like it18:21
L3topsWell baazigar|rajat we must first figure out what is causing it...18:21
escottbyteman, i think what is happening is that in /bin/sh which is really /bin/dash "echo" is a builtin that does not understand -e18:21
roasted_hairydog: it's a good platform. We're porting from Mac to Ubuntu here at work.18:21
hairydogNice18:21
L3topstypically baazigar|rajat it is due to some errant ppa18:21
roasted_hairydog: just keep your resources in mind... ubuntuforums, this IRC channel, etc.18:21
escottbyteman, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/25967118:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259671 in dash (Ubuntu) "dash: echo builtin interprets backslash escape sequences" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:22
vekexasiadio porco18:22
hairydogI installed a osx lion theme and it makes ubuntu look so good :P18:22
baazigar|rajatL3tops : i installed gimp then this error came18:22
The_BROShow to install tar.bz2 archive in Ubuntu?18:22
schultzamy next project is getting my top of the line games working with codeweaver's version of wine.. forgot its name at the moment.18:22
hairydogthe only reason I won't install ubuntu as my primary os is because I game a lot on pc18:22
roasted_hairydog: nice. I think it looks pretty good by default anyway :P18:22
hairydogif I wasn't a gamer, I wouldn't need windows for anything18:22
schultzahairydog: same here18:22
schultzaif i can fix that, id go linux all the time18:23
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: what version of gimp?18:23
hairydogI wish the way the dash is clear was the whole window theme and stuff18:23
hairydogif they did that I would love the default ubuntu theme18:23
baazigar|rajatlatest, i downloaded it 3 days ago18:23
schultzadid you know that other gamers told me to get a gaming console to fix that need for windows. :) dont they know the games im after are not on the console18:23
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: apt-cache policy gimp | grep Installed18:24
hairydogI just don't like console lol. I play bf3 and cod and stuff but don't like controllers, I prefer mouse and keyboard + the pc gaming community is much better than the 12 year olds on xbox live18:24
vekexasiaSomeone can help me with ubuntu caching ip addresses ? I can't force my desktop ubuntu to refresh its cache18:24
schultzame neither. im so used to the keyboard/mouse gaming i cant go console without slowing waaaay down18:24
hairydogI wish they would make games work for ubuntu though18:24
bytemanescott / ubottu : thanks!18:24
hairydogany good mmos that work on ubuntu?18:24
bazhangvekexasia, hairydog lets get on topic please18:25
roasted_hairydog: it's all about the game maker. Ubuntu itself is a good gaming platform.... but you need games... whcih game makers aren't caving to just yet.18:25
baazigar|rajatL3tops : I removed it then, Installed: (none)18:25
schultzahairydog: ive asked the gaming companies... their excuse, not enough demand18:25
bartjhello all18:25
bartjI am still on jaunty18:25
vekexasiabazhang: ???18:25
bartjand need to install this: libmysqlclient15-dev18:25
schultzajaunty!?!?!18:25
bazhangwhoops sorry vekexasia thats for schultza18:25
bartjbut, when I try "sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient15-dev"18:25
schultzabartj: please do not use enter as punctuation18:25
vekexasianevermind bazhang, :) Can you help me with my little problem?18:25
povoacaohelp. I have ubuntu 32 bits running at 64 bit hardware. Now I want to recompile kernel to have a 64 bit kernel. anyone have links to do this ?18:26
lelamal!enter | bartj18:26
bartji get 404 for a lot of the repositories, how do i fix this ?18:26
ubottubartj: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:26
L3topshow did you install it baazigar|rajat?18:26
escottpovoacao, you need to reinstall18:26
bazhangpovoacao, not possible. reinstall to change arch18:26
baazigar|rajatL3tops : through software-center18:26
hairydogSo game makers won't make games for Ubuntu ? Is that just because it's open source and free or what?18:26
hairydogand bazhang  this is Ubuntu support, I'm asking questions related to Ubuntu and game support :P18:27
bazhanghairydog, thats outside the support topic here18:27
hairydognot uh!18:27
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: have you done an apt-get update    lately?18:27
schultzabartj: jaunty is no longer supported, you will need to upgrade to a newer version18:27
hairydogit says ubuntu support, that is technically ubuntu support18:27
escotthairydog, they are coming around slowly, but it always seems a couple years out18:27
povoacaoresintall ? is it  not enough to recompile the kernel and install the required libraries ? only reinstalling...18:27
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: sudo apt-get update18:27
vekexasiaHello guys, I don't want to sound annoying but I've an issue. I can't refresh the ip address of a website. dig always query localhost for the dns but I don't have any dns installed. Any idea ?18:27
bazhanghairydog, no it's not. lets move on18:27
baazigar|rajatL3tops : i did it an hour ago18:27
roasted_hairydog: beware of bazhang. He holds the magical ban hammer.18:27
hairydog!topic18:27
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic18:27
bartjschultza, or I could try installing from the sources ?18:27
hairydogOfficial Ubuntu Support Channel. Hey just cause I ask about games because I'm a gamer and want to game on Ubuntu doesn't make it any less important than anyone else's questions you're just being hitler.18:28
schultzaor go from the sources. id recommend a ubuntu upgrade (install from disk) option though18:28
schultzayou will not get supported updates without doing everything yourself18:28
roasted_hairydog: I'd drop it bro... he holds the ban hammer.18:28
roasted_sigh...18:28
bazhangroasted_, lets move on18:28
roasted_color me surprised18:28
baazigar|rajatL3tops : can you help or should i reinstall ubuntu ???18:29
bartjschultza, i tried googling a bit but couldn't find the sources for libmysqlclient15-dev18:29
schultzasorry guys, i helped the gaming topic along18:29
vekexasiaHello guys, I don't want to sound annoying but I've an issue. I can't refresh the ip address of a website. dig always query localhost for the dns but I don't have any dns installed. Any idea ?18:29
L3topsWe can figure it out... a reinstall is a drastic step baazigar|rajat. What were you trying to install to begin with that gave you the depend error18:29
roasted_Question - any Motion users here? I'm trying to set up multiple network cameras, but I'm having an issue with the config file. I understand I am to use the thread.conf files for individual cameras, but what about the motion.conf where /dev/video0 takes priority?18:29
hairy-dogjerk.18:29
baazigar|rajatL3tops : Advanced setting18:29
escottroasted_, im curious what this "motion" project is18:30
baazigar|rajatL3tops : Tweak advanced gnome 3 settings18:30
zacktuis there a live cd tool that can examine the mbr on a disk and say that it has been corrupted  beyone repair?18:30
roasted_escott: it's a motion detection software for Linux... uses your webcam by default, or you can set up network cameras.18:30
shred805hello does anyone know the command to run the add printer wizard18:30
roasted_escott: I can set share paths in the config and itll save the images/video stream to that location whenever something moves across the camera field of view.18:30
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: have you run an apt-get upgrade?18:30
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: sudo18:31
shred805im trying to run it though ssh need the command18:31
hairy-dogbazhang, how about instead of kicking me, you could direct me to a channel where I CAN talk about gaming on Ubuntu?18:31
baazigar|rajatL3tops  : yes sudo apt-get update, not upgrade18:31
roasted_hairy-dog: #ubuntu-offtopic18:31
escottroasted_, ok. i was wondering if it was some open source attempt at something like kinect18:31
bazhanghairy-dog, #ubuntu-offtopic18:31
sweb1what is pacakge name of sun java in ubuntu  ?18:31
hairy-dogthank you roasted_18:31
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: I am confused at the error, because they both appear to want and not be installed because of the same version... please sudo apt-get upgrade and try again18:31
sweb1no openjdk18:31
roasted_escott: not necessarily. Its appealing to me because ZoneMinder has been giving me some issues with my higher resolution surveillance cameras... so I wanted to try Motion, which users have been praising, but I just can't find much info on the subject.18:32
roasted_escott: I can figure out how to get 1 camera to work in the config, but once I introduce other cameras and have to split my configs in the thread1.conf thread2.conf etc files, I lose it.18:32
escottroasted_, i've never heard of the project i was just curious what it is18:33
escottsweb1, sun java can no longer be distributed by canonical per instructions from oracle18:33
roasted_escott: sounds good. :)18:33
baazigar|rajatL3tops : how much time will it take ? on 256 kbps net speed?18:33
povoacaoif I use make x86_64_defconfig in my 32 bits ubuntu, my new kernel will support 64 bit hardware ?18:34
sweb1escott: for any distrubtion of linux ? or just ubuntu ?18:34
bazhangpovoacao, you have to reinstall to change arch18:34
escottpovoacao, its not supported. your userspace including glibc would still be 32bit18:34
BrainFrostyWhat's a genius?18:34
BrainFrostyI heard it was a male with an oversized penis18:35
kurtwp_sweb1: to my knowledge sun-java it is still in the repo18:35
bazhangBrainFrosty, related to ubuntu?18:35
escottsweb1, i believe it was for everyone18:35
BrainFrostyno in general18:35
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: I cannot know that. Go ahead and run it, and it will tell you the amount of megs that will need to be downloaded18:35
baazigar|rajatL3tops : around 1 GB of upgrades, it will take a lot of time.18:35
bazhangBrainFrosty, wrong channel. stop it18:35
hairy-doghow do I take a screenshot in ubuntu?18:35
BrainFrostyalright fine18:35
kurtwp_hairy-dog: download shutter18:35
baazigar|rajatL3tops : i ran it18:36
sweb1package name : kurtwp_18:36
sweb1?18:36
L3topsbaazigar|rajat: perhaps a better answer is... less time than a backup/reinstall/restore?18:36
escottsweb1, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/18:36
schultzakurtwp_: there is no default solution?18:36
L3topsI will be around baazigar|rajat.18:36
kurtwp_sweb1: do a apt-cache search sun | more18:36
kurtwp_see what you see18:36
baazigar|rajatL3tops : ok18:36
kurtwp_schultza: for what18:36
schultzakurtwp_: for the screen capture18:36
kurtwp_schultza: correct so let me re-phrase I recommend shutter for a screen cap utility18:37
hairy-dogkurtwp_, sudo apt-get install shutter?18:37
kurtwp_hairy-dog: do a apt-cache search shutter to make sure18:37
schultzai just did.. shutter is a package18:38
povoacaois possible to install with the DVD ubuntu 64 bit without loose my data on my 32 bit ubuntu ?18:41
escottpovoacao, just backup your /home and the user data should be safe18:41
bazhangpovoacao, got a /home partition thats separate?18:41
povoacaomy /home partition is cripted18:41
escottpovoacao, that shouldnt be a problem as long as you backup all of /home18:42
povoacaoall other filesystems is under /18:42
schultzayour home dir is encrypted. but while you are in it.. it's available to you, right18:42
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kurtwp_povoacao: back it up anyways18:42
povoacaoI would like to preserve the applications too18:42
povoacaoa lot of applications...18:43
schultzanot sure how you would be able to preserve the apps18:43
escott!clone | povoacao18:43
ubottupovoacao: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate18:43
ankush_Hi all18:43
zbeefyhi18:43
nemoWizard: found another app horribly painful to use in Unity - GIMP.  Having menu along top of each window is really useful. going to top of screen and trying to figure out which window is being referenced, not so much18:43
escottpovoacao, when you backup the encrypted /home you should do so from a livecd so as to avoid issues with having the ecryptfs mounted on top of /home/username18:43
nemoWizard: actually, that one I think is enough to drive me back to gnome3 or anything else18:44
ankush_I have just installed ubuntu 11.04 , installed some softwares, and restarted, but now it freezes on the purple loading screen? what should I do?18:44
nemoWizard: well. that on top of the other problems.18:44
povoacaoI think I can install without format filesystem ou recreate them18:44
schultzanemo: it's not as bad for the mac osx users.. that's their normal18:45
artaremASTERIN IN UBUNTU18:45
zaggynlhas anyone managed to boot ubuntu server x64 on virtualbox?18:46
povoacaoI would like to preserve the applications...not reinstall...only install the 64 bit kernel and the necessary packages18:46
povoacaoand update any or other pack if necessary18:46
schultzai dont think you can update from a i386 (32 bit) to a x86-64 (64 bit) arch18:46
schultzawithout a reinstall... great.. now im punctuating again with enter18:47
povoacaothey tell me to reinstall....18:47
schultzayeah, i think that's your best option18:47
schultzabut back up what you have installed with the method they told you on the programs.. then backup your /home dirs... then reinstall...18:47
povoacaoI want the easy option18:47
schultzai think that's the best option right now...18:48
povoacaoand not the best in this case.18:48
escottpovoacao, thats the ONLY option in this case. please don't ask again18:48
arta_Indonesia .........18:48
schultzayou are talking of TWO DIFFERENT archs.. you cant upgrade from one to another18:48
arta_help remasteering18:48
schultzawithout rebuilding the whole system.. thats why there needs to be a reinstall18:48
piihbCan someone explain the different versions of Adobe to download for Linux?18:49
escottpiihb, adobe what?18:49
arta_I am Ubuntu 11.0418:49
piihbescott: Flash.18:49
schultzaarta_: what are you trying to remaster?18:50
escottpiihb, can you give an example of what you are trying to pick between?18:50
arta_yas,,, I have trobol18:50
o67pcaff18:51
o67pcisp fdp18:51
o67pcWhat is the file of we change the ttl of linux?18:51
zacktua friend gave me a computer -- installs of windows xp and ubuntu won't boot -- system rescue cd will find ubuntu and boot it, but ubuntu won't boot off the disk -- i've tried fixmbr and fixboot for windows w/ no success -- is it time to trash the disk?18:51
povoacao<schultza>: yes I know is two different archs18:51
piihbescott: YUM for Linux; .tar.gz for other Linux; .rpm for other Linux18:51
povoacaoI know I need gcc , libs and other suffs 64 bits18:52
escott!apt | piihb use apt to install flash do not download programs from websites18:52
ubottupiihb use apt to install flash do not download programs from websites: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)18:52
schultzapovoacao: but there is no command to switch archs at this time18:52
schultzaonce you installed an arch, it stays in that arch for any updates/upgrades.18:52
povoacaoyes I know....but will be good if someone create this command18:53
zbeefyzacktu: you could check the drive under ubuntu live CD using Disk Utility18:53
povoacaoto switch archs18:53
bazhangpovoacao, cannot be done. reinstall18:53
zacktuzbeefy: disk utility says the disk is ok18:53
o67pc What is the file of we change the ttl of linux?18:53
povoacaoI work with AIX....AIX I can just switch18:53
roasted_Anybody running Motion? I'm trying to configure multiple network cams but I'm having some confusion in regard to the /dev/video0 vs network cams in the config file. Anybody familiar with this?18:53
arta_schultza use ubuntu 11.0418:53
bazhangpovoacao, lets move on please18:54
piihbescott: So, sudo apt-get adobe flash    ?18:54
zbeefyzacktu: then it must be okay, format it in Disk Utility18:54
escottpovoacao, and its open source so you can start hacking on that. but it is not supported yes and it is certainly not supported here18:54
violinappren!id | arta_18:54
ubottuarta_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia18:54
zbeefyzacktu: and assign a new partition table18:54
escottpiihb, you may have to enable the partner repos18:54
povoacaowill be good if ubuntu in the near future support this....18:54
escott!info flashplugin-installer | piihb18:54
ubottupiihb: flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.235ubuntu0.12.04.1 (precise), package size 8 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:54
schultzaarta_: what program is trobol?18:54
zbeefyzacktu: but remember to format the drive, not the partition18:54
o67pcWhat is the file of we can change the ttl of linux?18:54
yeatso67pc: what does "the ttl of linux" mean?18:55
arta_thank  Boy....     saya mau coba rombak semua Ubuntu 11.04nya18:55
piihbescott: What's wrong with downloading from websites?18:55
o67pcyeats, the time to live of the packet delivered..18:55
o67pcyeats, i rementer is on /proc/net or something like that18:55
escottpiihb, you start downloading from websites and you end up with an OS like microsh** win**ows and we wouldn't like that18:56
arta_im join http://www.ubuntu-id.org sedikit yang oooll18:56
schultzaarta_: what language is that?18:56
violinapprenarta_:  wrtie: /join #ubuntu-id18:57
arta_Indonesia Sir18:57
o67pcschultza: I think is germany?18:57
arta_I  am sorry not speak English18:57
piihbhaha thanks, escott :P18:58
zacktuzbeefy: i let ubuntu have the entire drive when doing the install -- most of the drive was one partition, with also a partition for swap and one more i think18:58
schultza!indonesian | arta_18:58
ubottuarta_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia18:58
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zbeefyzacktu: and you installed grub on /dev/sda ?18:58
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zacktuzbeefy: didn't install grub as a separate activity -- it's not been necessary for any installs that i have done before19:00
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arta_okay19:00
arta_I've been following ubuntu.id, little is online19:00
schultzawhat other languages do you know well?19:00
zbeefyzacktu: then it installed itself automatically, and what, it didn't boot after that?19:00
schultzaand im sorry. i dont know the program "trobol"19:00
violinapprenschultza: misspelled trouble19:01
androidbrucehas anyone had issues updating samba4 in 12.04?19:01
schultzawell, there is a parser otu there spelled that way19:01
Sysiwhen I play music (mp3) with VLC after boot, sound crackles for a minute or a half and then starts working properly, sound output is set to be pulseaudio, some way to fix it?19:01
schultzaarta_: what is the problem you are having?19:02
zacktuzbeefy: it won't boot -- all i get is a blinking cursor19:02
violinapprenSysi: only in VLC?19:02
schultzaSysi: if it happens in other programs as well, I'd suspect it's the file that has recorded static/crackling19:02
zbeefyzacktu: at which point, since the beginning of the bootup process? Is BIOS set to boot off of this drive?19:02
WoLfHello everyone, I've just updated my ubuntu installation to 12.04 and I'm having an issue trying to fix a problem.. I can't get tleds to work anymore, and it's listed as removed from this version..19:03
arta_does anyone else19:03
arta_plans for remastering my internet needs19:03
arta_can help to provide advice or guidance on how the process of remastering...19:03
bazhangarta_, UCK19:03
bazhang!uck | arta_19:03
Sysiviolinappren: I don't have other players installed, what should I compare with? something with gstreamer, mplayer?19:03
ubottuarta_: uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/19:03
bazhangarta_, read that link First19:04
violinapprenSysi: download mplayer or gnome-media-player19:04
violinappren!remaster | arta_19:04
ubottuarta_: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility19:04
zacktuzbeefy: i've had it as the top -- also below the CD and used bios to select the hard drive when i wanted to test so i know that i'm trying to boot from the disk19:04
WoLfIs it removed cause it was not compatible anymore, or just cause it was obsolete? If so, which apt source can I add to retrieve it again without having to completely remove 12.04?19:04
tim`is anyone very familiar with the linker updates in 12.04? I am trying to link against an existing .so file but it is missing some symbols - I'm wondering if moving 11.10 to 12.04 could have caused this due to the whole non-exporting of symbols of dependent libraries business ?19:04
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ankush_Hi, I have just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my Dell Vostro 1450 intel core i3, after installing some softwares, i  tried to restart, but now it freezes on purple loading screen, need help in diagnosing the problem19:05
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zacktuzbeefy: i've booted system rescue cd and tried 2 options: 1) find a linux system and boot it; 2) boot from the hard disk ---- #1 works and #2 doesn't19:06
zbeefyzacktu: linux will be read from the CD into the RAM, so it will work19:06
arta_sorry sir19:07
arta_whether there is a translation language chat here?19:07
arta_I apologize for using the new ubuntu19:07
zbeefyzacktu: is it a laptop?19:07
UncleSlippyFisthello, everybody! I was simply wondering if there's an easy way to get a tiling window manager up and running? I don't feel like dealing with toooo much configuring19:07
wilee-nilee!bootinfo | zacktu for your mbr and grub problems19:07
ubottuzacktu for your mbr and grub problems: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).19:07
arta_I apologize for a long time back, because I have to translate in google traslate first19:08
Escherialhey, anyone happen to know if support for realtek wireless adapters has improved at all in 12.04? i tried installing it earlier, but was unable to work on account of being unable to connect to wireless routers that used any kind of encryption (WEP, WPA, etc.)19:08
zbeefyzacktu: try manually disconnecting the drive and connecting it back19:08
piihbescott: I'm having trouble with the Adobe download...19:08
escottpiihb, details19:09
Escherialhad to go back to 11.10, which paradoxically has better support for my rt3040 (which it recognizes as an rt2800pci for some reason)19:09
arta_thanks for the help pack19:09
piihbescott: I used the command: sudo apt-get install flashplugin non-free    It got to a certain point with the download and then said 'Processing triggers for update-notifier-common...[LINK]19:10
piihbescott: Just click the link?19:10
ankush_Hi, I have just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my Dell Vostro 1450 intel core i3, after installing some softwares, i  tried to restart, but now it freezes on purple loading screen, need help in diagnosing the problem19:10
zacktuzbeefy: this is a dell desktop -- i thought it would be a nice sandbox19:10
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escottpiihb, can you paste what you are seeing19:11
UncleSlippyFistis bluetile a viable tiling wm?19:11
zacktuzbeefy: i'll also ready over the suggestions on the thread that the bot sent - thanks for your help19:11
zbeefyzacktu: I remember I had problems like that once but that was because of bad sectors. I could only use the drive for storage.19:11
WoLfNevermind my question I guess. there's so much stuff that went wrong in 12.04 I see now.. my apologies but I'm going back to 10.04 until it lasts.19:12
zbeefyzacktu: sorry I couldn't resolve it19:12
zeidozis it possible to share a file in one user's home directory with another user?19:14
piihbescott: It seems that it was just taking it's time; no problems. Thanks!19:14
Walexzeidoz: if you set permissions (to 'group', 'other' or with an ACL).19:14
escottzeidoz, yes. unless you encrypted your home directory (that makes it harder). otherwise just create a group for the two users. sudo usermod -a -G newgroup username for both (DO NOT FORGET the -a) and chgrp filename19:15
zeidozWalex: so chmod 777 should do it, right?19:15
escottzeidoz, 777 grants full access to everyone on the computer19:15
zeidozescott: hmmm, still wouldn't work, not sure why19:15
abhinavmehtaI'm bored with the traditional '$' or '#' character, displaying on my shell(terminal)….I want some new character as my Prompt. Anyone using something creative..?19:15
zeidozwell, at least i know it *should* work19:16
zeidozoh, damn, nevermind19:16
zeidozthanks escott19:16
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Sysiviolinappren: mplayer plays music fine when VLC gives broken sound, I guess I need new music player19:16
escottabhinavmehta, just change $PS119:16
abhinavmehtaescott: I know how to change, but I need some new character to change with..19:17
Sysiabhinavmehta: % or > works pretty well19:17
abhinavmehtaSysi: these are old too….isn't there some new-improvement.19:17
yeatsabhinavmehta: that isn't really ubuntu support, is it?19:17
abhinavmehtayeats: I agree, it's not ubuntu support…but just asking fools here…if they are sing something interesting.19:18
abhinavmehta*oops folks19:18
yeatsabhinavmehta: there's an offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic - fyi19:18
abhinavmehtathat's auto-correct sorry..19:18
abhinavmehta*using19:19
abhinavmehtayeats: ok, I've taken this to #ubuntu-offtopic, but guess what I was talking about was a very general topic.19:21
zowszi need work have a nice day19:22
zbeefyzeidoz: zero doesn't give permission, one grants permission, now binary: 1 = 001, 2 = 010, 3 = 011, 4 = 100, 5 = 101, 6 = 110, 7=111,  each digit in 3-digit-binary-number (like 111) stands for READ WRITE EXECUTE respectively. Permissions are given to USER GROUP OTHER. Therefore permission 7 will grant a USER: read write and execute. The next consecutive 7 will do the same to GROUP, another consecutive 7 will do the same to OTHER.19:23
zbeefyI only hope I explained it clear lol19:23
zbeefyclearly*19:23
zbeefyBut this is valuable19:23
zbeefyeasy to calculate19:23
conanbatt_im using ubuntu server for my web application, on an ec2- amazon instance with 8GB diskspace.  I am running out of harddrive space, but i dont get why. Ive tried to use du or find to find large files or folders, but nothing is bigger than half a Gig19:25
schultzaconanbatt_: try df -h for human readable based on partition19:25
glcheetham                   .               ,.19:25
glcheetham                  T."-._..---.._,-"/|19:25
glcheetham                  l|"-.  _.v._   (" |19:25
glcheetham                  [l /.'_ \; _~"-.`-t19:25
glcheetham                  Y " _(o} _{o)._ ^.|19:25
FloodBot1glcheetham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:25
conanbatt_yeah it says "/dev/xvda1            7.9G  7.9G     0 100%"19:26
schultzaouch!!19:26
conanbatt_it hasnt crashed yet, but its gradually growing19:26
conanbatt_i could delete some downloads and its clearly gradually expanding itself19:26
yeatsconanbatt_: you'll want to act quickly19:26
schultzaclean out the tmp dir recently?19:26
FrankZZ?19:27
conanbatt_no, lets see19:27
schultzacheck log file sizes19:27
schultzathen run through du with the /home /usr etc to find out where the data is all going.. -h for human readable19:28
conanbatt_tmp is 96k. I have deleted all my log files, which were decent, but none of them over 100 megs19:28
conanbatt_ok19:28
schultzaset quotas so it doesnt happen again.. :)19:28
MO_Handeshow to run the GUI file manager as root?19:28
yeatsMO_Handes: 'gksu nautilus'19:28
schultzagksudo [filemanager program]19:28
negevhi, i have a ubuntu 12.04LTS box configured as a pptp client. the vpn connects and everything looks fine, I can ping the remote endpoint etc, but if i do:  $ curl --interface ppp0 ifconfig.me    it hangs. tcpdump shows the traffic going out over ppp0 and valid responses coming back, all with correct ip addresses, so i am confused as to why this doesn't work. oddly if i specific:  route add ifconfig.me dev ppp0, it then works, but that doesn't help me if i want to be19:32
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aquaforehello\19:33
hairy-dogDoes anyone know of any good NASA apps for Ubuntu?19:37
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carl-cbmI am trying to configure the subpixel rendering on 12.04 - the best I can find online is a ref to a package 'ubuntu-tweak-tool' that is not shown in aptitude19:38
OerHekshairy-dog, celestia is a nice skyviewer, never seen nasa apps besides openstack19:39
fidel_carl-cbm: there is ubuntu-tweak and gnome-tweak-tool (just to avoid name-confusion)19:40
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wilee-nileecarl-cbm, ubuntu-tweak is a 3rd party with a PPA19:40
UncleSlippyFistoh lordy, I'm trying awesomewm. What did I get myself into?19:40
flametai1Hi everybody, would anyone know of a website or anything at all for getting themes for 12.04 LTS?19:41
carl-cbmthe problem I am having is really bad font rendering  - when I move a terminal horizontally it does the thing where it looks like it is moving across a lot of black lines.19:41
fidel_flametai1: webupd8 reports about such things from time to time19:42
schultzaconanbatt_ has a situation where du and df are not reporting the same thing for his system's disk usage19:42
c0deMasterI installed Macbuntu then removed it but now the globam app menu is not working, how can i renable it?19:43
flametai1fidel_, Thank you, I didn't even know this website existed. Seems very good for knowing about what's going on19:44
LUXX_hello guys, i need some help with the cheat sheet to access a drive. keyboard settings are fine, but somehow the pass isnt working... any suggestions?http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=eba097ee17afec56d455655406bdf09c&t=868681&page=419:44
OerHeksc0deMaster, bleh, you were warned that we do not support macbuntu, now you want us to support the troubles it makes ?19:44
c0deMasterOerHeks, what is the name of the global app menu package?19:46
jammsindicator-appmenu19:48
nascentmindHi. How do I make the apparmor module go to quiet mode. Its very noisy in the dmesg output19:50
yggdrasilL3tops:19:50
yggdrasilyou in ?19:50
L3topsvery busy but here19:51
yggdrasilok19:51
schultzanascentmind: what is it complaining about?19:51
yggdrasiluhm i think i fianly got some time to mess with x, if your too busy its cool. wont matter in 3 hours.19:51
yggdrasiluh 2 hours...19:51
nascentmindschultza, mysql process terminated with status 119:51
nascentmindschultza, whole list of mysql nonsense.19:52
schultzanascentmind: checking19:52
schultzanascentmind: check http://tanghus.net/2012/03/yet-another-mysql-vs-apparmor-barf/ about fixing apparmor for similar messages you are getting19:54
maokeianyone here with some experience ntfsundelete19:59
maokeiI haave to restore data on a ntfs partition that has been formated but not overwritten19:59
schultza!datarecovery | maokei20:00
schultzahmm20:00
maokei!datarecovery20:00
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modernbobis there a system-switch-mail for ubuntu20:03
OerHeks!testdisk20:03
escottmaokei, testdisk might work20:03
maokeialright ill try giving it a go20:04
unkn-errorI have changed to Text in /etc/defalut/grub the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text", but I wish to see more text, is there a way to increase the verbosity?20:04
unkn-error like in " recovery mode"20:05
OerHeksunkn-error, the text that rolls on your screen in recovery or normal boot mode, are different anyhow. "text"option in grub is all there is.20:08
guntbertunkn-error: try to add "noquiet"20:09
BlueWolfHi, Does reinstalling a computer with ubuntu clear out the registry? I am trying to learn more about the Linux operating system and I thought it would be good to know how to erase the registry so that no one can see stuff?20:10
AprelThe windows registry. No, ubuntu won't clear that20:10
OerHeksBlueWolf, mbr ?20:10
unkn-errorsudo update-grub or sudo update-grub2? is there a difference?20:11
schultzaBlueWolf: there is no registry like in windows in ubuntu. Ubuntu has a collection of config files throughout the whole computer though.20:11
BlueWolf20:11
BlueWolfAprel: Ya a windows one.20:11
BlueWolfschultza: Is that cleared when one reinstall Ubuntu with Ubuntu or Windows?20:11
unkn-errorBlueWolf: your nick was my nick name ten years ago :D20:12
AprelBlueWolf: Only a windows reinstall will clear the windows registry. Or edit the registry manually20:12
schultzaBlueWolf: in order to clear out the history, you will have to delete all partitions and start fresh. But keep in mind the hard drive keeps the last 7 bits per bit.. so it's still possible to get that information.20:12
AprelBlueWolf: Though many "registry errors" reported by those "free-scan" online programs are just cons to get you to install tehir software20:13
BlueWolf20:13
BlueWolfunkn-error: Funny, Mine now :D20:13
cccangelAprel, there is also the Win PE that can be used for offline registery edits...20:13
schultzaBlueWolf: i dont mean to make you paranoid, but most hard drives are magnetic and will retain prior information.20:13
guntbertunkn-error: yes, there is a big difference, you probably want sudo update-grub20:13
BlueWolfschultza, Aprel: So is it possible for an experienced Hacker to recover sensitive information?20:14
cccangelschultza, lol... is that why some people will download programs to format their hd like 10 times with different methods?20:14
schultzaBlueWolf: most companies that have what they consider top secret (not to be released to the world) will first do a DoD-7 level wipe and then destroy the hard drive physically.20:15
AprelBlueWolf: yeah, if they have access to your hard drive. There are tools that can help ""permanently"" delete your data in Ubuntu20:15
cccangelBlueWolf, yes.  an experienced person can use fragmented data left in sectors on your harddrive to compose complete file headers then restore files.20:15
unkn-errorBlueWolf: If I will gonna take your hardisk from your computer and run a data recovery software I will gonna see all the "pictures, banners" etc. from the site you visited20:15
schultzaor if they are keeping it.. keep it on top secret level and just dod-7 wipe20:15
maokeiwhats the propper way to unmount a a harddrive in ubuntu sudo unmount /dev/sda220:15
unkn-errorBlueWolf: but if the hardisk is encrypted then I would not have a chance20:16
mahsomI need Yahoo messenger with support webcam and voice .20:16
schultzamaokei: umount, not unmount20:16
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escottmaokei, you can also mount and unmount without sudo using "udisks"20:16
AprelBluewolf: something like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/partition_you_want_to_wipe can help delete data permanently.20:16
maokeialright20:16
schultzaescott: udisks?20:17
escottschultza, the backend that nautilus uses20:17
AprelI say "help" delete because some organizations like the NSA only recommend phyiscal destruction of the drive to wipe it clean20:17
cccangelAprel, BlueWolf , there is a program i stumbled into that can encrypt your harddrive with multiple layers...20:17
cccangelbut its a pain to set up20:17
unkn-errorBlueWolf: you may wish to "wipe" a hardisk, one pass is just enough - really, you will not need gutmann or etc. for home usage, and on a 74-80 gb hdd will gonna take about 2-3 or 4 hours depending by the controler20:17
canceri want to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary'20:17
schultzaAprel: that's the 3rd stage in a 7-run wipe (DoD-7)20:17
Aprelccangel: truecrypt?20:18
cccangelAprel, yes thats the one20:18
canceri want to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary'20:18
unkn-errortryecrypt is very nice, if you will not encrypt the whole hardisk20:18
BlueWolfschultza: I once Zeroed my hard disk, sorry don't know what the name is but it wipe everything off better that formating. Dose that delete all the information or can it still be salvaged?20:18
Aprelschultza: you mean they recommend certain steps before incineration of the drive? lol, what do they think can be recovered from an incinerated drive?20:19
unkn-errorI currently speak with you guy's from a Sandboxed Brownser which resides in a Tryecrypt container20:19
hairy-dogQuick question: does anyone know any good sites for Ubuntu specific C++ programming so I can start programming applications for Ubuntu?20:19
cccangelunkn-error, lol... i couldnt ever sit through the process of setting truecrypt up. too lengthy20:20
AprelBlueWolf: zeroing out completely an hdd probably makes it unrecoverable to most hackers.20:20
guntbert!ot | schultza unkn-error Aprel20:20
ubottuschultza unkn-error Aprel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:20
BlueWolfAprel: But can information still be accessed and put back together?20:21
cccangelhairy-dog, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65672120:21
cccangelhairy-dog, scroll down and look at the think available20:22
hairy-dogthank you20:22
unkn-errorBlueWolf: I really need to write an article about this subject, I hope it will be ready in two weeks20:22
BlueWolfunkn-error: And you point on Earth is? :D20:23
cccangelBlueWolf, if your data isn't wiped up with the programs that offer DoD 7 wipe, then it can be recovered20:23
amh345is anyone here using google authenticator?  having a problem where it's not accepting my password20:23
cccangelbut also realize BlueWolf that technology is not perfect (ever) so if someone is motivated to do anything, it can be achieved20:23
cccangelperiod20:23
BlueWolf20:23
BlueWolfcccangel: What exactly is "DoD 7 wipe" ?20:24
unkn-errorBlueWolf: will be www.marcelcuculici.tk20:24
* cccangel goes to google20:24
AprelBlueWolf: it's more of a security question. Probably not, especially without physical access to the drive. The CIA, NSA, or government security organization in your area will have a much more detailed analysis of how to have complete piece of mind when destroying sensitive ddata.20:24
unkn-errorBlueWolf check this out: http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1211/~/how-to-low-level-format-or-write-zeros-(full-erase)-to-a-wd-hard-drive-or-solid#windlg20:24
cancerAprel: unkn-error: how to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary' PLEASE20:25
cccangelBlueWolf, check this out as well... (i love google) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tools-to-delete-files-securely-in-ubuntu-linux.html20:25
salvatoreI am trying to install Windows 7 on VM but i got this error: cannot boot from cd code 5...anyone experienced this??20:25
unkn-errorand this one http://www.marksanborn.net/howto/wiping-a-hard-drive-with-dd/20:25
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Aprelsalvatore: are you using virtualbox or vmware?20:27
salvatorevirtual box20:27
salvatoreany solution?20:28
BlueWolfSo basically the only people able to recover data from a hard disk that has been zeroed is CIA and other government authorities?20:28
BlueWolfNot basic hackers?20:28
AprelBlueWolf: Not necessarily, but they'll share some tips with you on how you can fullyd estroy your data20:29
guntbertBlueWolf: please move that discussion (to #ubuntu-offtopic for instance) - it has nothing to do with ubuntu-support20:30
Aprelsalvatore: are you using the phyiscal cd for the install or a ripped iso?20:30
salvatorephysical cd20:31
guntbertsalvatore: vbox support can be found in #vbox20:31
salvatorethen i tried to mount directly the iso20:31
dhalsim22hi20:32
salvatoreok then...if nobody can help me here i'll try in vbox channel....thanks!20:32
BlueWolf20:32
BlueWolf20:32
BlueWolfAprel: Sorry could I move this conversation to offtopic before I get kicked off this chat as some people find it a custom.20:32
FloodBot1BlueWolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:32
BlueWolfguntbert: Moving now, sorry to bother you with my conversation. :D20:32
dhalsim22i've got a problem, I use the accessibility options and now I have big fonts and a gigantic cursor, how can I revert to normal?20:33
nelson777brhello I was trying to fix the video of my 12.04, and now it just won't show any. Just a blank screen appears with truncated characters in it. No GUI. How can I restore a minimal video from a live cd ? I have a blacklisted Geforce 730020:33
nelson777brI just want it to find nouveu driver20:34
nelson777bracctually ANY working driver20:34
escottnelson777br, just uninstall the nvidia driver and then it should fall back to nouveau20:34
nelson777brI were using nouveau and don't have nvidia installed when I get into this problem20:35
escott!nomodeset | nelson777br20:36
ubottunelson777br: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:36
nelson777brI only have access to the partition via the live cd / mount partition20:36
escottnelson777br, you can chroot in and run apt commands20:36
nelson777brok then20:37
nelson777brI'll try20:37
guntbert!chroot | nelson777br20:38
ubottunelson777br: A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot20:38
nelson777brescott, guntberg: thnx20:39
modernbobis there a way to make postfix the default mail mta20:42
escottmodernbob, check /etc/alternatives20:42
modernbobescott: is that executable?20:44
escottmodernbob, no its a directory of symlinks20:44
modernbobescott: don't see anything that looks like postfix.. is there a system-switch-mail for ubuntu20:45
escottmodernbob, update-alternatives is designed to interface with /etc/alternatives20:45
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modernbobescott: how do you use it20:46
escottmodernbob, is bsd-mailx an mta>?20:47
* Hayro #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv220:48
* Hayro #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv220:48
escottmodernbob, i think update-alternatives --list mailx should list the options20:48
modernbobescott: I have no idea20:49
modernbobescott: that didn't work20:49
salvatore_Hi guys i've been to #vbox...but they cant helmp me...again: I am trying to install Windows 7 on VM but i got this error: cannot boot from cd code 5...anyone experienced this??20:50
escottmodernbob, didn't work?20:50
onektusing skype & chrome,  if one plays audio,  the other cannot find a playback device.  How to manage or work around?  using alsa.20:50
modernbobescott: nothing came up20:51
Aprelsalvatore_ I looked that error online but didn't find much useful. Most people said it's from a burned copy of a win-install cd, and it's some copy-protection remnant from MS, it seems20:51
escottmodernbob, "update-alternatives --list mailx" printed nothing?20:52
BFranksReading https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html  .. it claims that vsftpd allows anon login by default.. yet both the 'ftp' and 'anonymous' users give me 'bad password' failures?20:53
modernbobescott: just said no alternative to postfix.. so my issue is this.. postfix doesn't appear to be listening ...  but when I do netstat its listening.. no mail though from outside. when I poke that port from outside machine postfix isn't there even though in main.cf protocal is all and interface is all20:54
jonnyciao20:54
jonny!list20:54
ubottujonny: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:54
escottmodernbob, firewall?20:54
modernbobescott: checked it and port 25 is open20:54
jonnyno20:54
jonnytu?20:55
escottmodernbob, so port is open in netstat, not firewall or NAT, but from outside you cant get in. can you get a response locally. What about telnetting in and just saying HELO (is HELO correct?)20:56
E144Someone told me that 12.04 handels x displays differently for multipule monitors, does anyone know what changed20:56
minasHi. Is there a possibility that the proprietary graphics drivers be worse than the open source ones or even causing problems?20:56
schultzaHELO is used on mail servers20:56
modernbobescott: checking nat/router firewall now20:56
E144Minas: most ppl dont notice the diff from closed and open20:57
modernbobescott: no joy..  maybe time to uninstall postfix and start over20:57
E144Minas: even Intel card ppl have difficulty from what i hear20:57
xxxxxxxelo20:58
schultzaxxxxxxx: no new mail at this time20:58
schultza:)20:58
xxxxxxxktos od samby dla poczatkujacego20:58
minasE144: I'm asking because sometimes my pc just freezes for a few moments, then logs off itself. Then the screen flickers all the time... I was using the proprietary ATI driver. Is there a possibility that that was the problem?20:58
schultza!english | xxxxxxx20:58
ubottuxxxxxxx: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList20:58
guntbert!pl | xxxxxxx21:00
ubottuxxxxxxx: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:00
escottminas, is there a possibility. yes21:01
schultzaguntbert: i need to learn other langauges so i can tell which one is which.21:01
xxxxxxxok im new one on lubuntu- 12.04 and need some help with samba configuration21:01
minasescott: Thank you! I hope the problem will disappear now :)21:01
n-iCegot a raid 1 problem in 12.04 after upgrade - it doesn't mount , hw controller sees the raid fine, os not so much21:02
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escottn-iCe, what kind of hardware raid?21:02
E144I had a similar problem a while ago something with mdam fixed my raid 121:03
n-iCeuhm .. can't recall what brand or make it is, can I see that somewhere without opening the case up?, its a card escott21:05
schultzan-iCe: yes.. .lspci21:05
escottn-iCe, lspci. i guess check your /etc/modules and maybe rerun update-initramfs to make sure the module is in the initramfs21:06
persona24Hello, I can't get Oracle Virtualbox to work. Is there another app I can use?21:07
n-iCeescott: 01:07.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)21:07
Aprelpersona24: vmware21:07
n-iCe#vbox  persona2421:07
n-iCeescott: http://pastebin.com/JqCNNVG921:08
schultzaotherwise, ive seen pictures of austria21:09
schultzaoops21:10
persona24n-iCe: I don't think this is a virtualbox problem. . . I try to start an emulation and there's an error saying "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)"21:10
BlueWolf21:10
BlueWolfschultza: Ok here. Oh and the Ubuntu is 7.04 as thats what the computer can handle. It's just a basic work type computer, not a gaming one. Ready21:10
jonnyciao21:10
jonny!list21:10
ubottujonny: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».21:10
E144N-Ice: Silicon Image 3114, i had a board in raid 1 with that config, asus a8nsli premium21:10
schultzaBlueWolf: open up terminal21:11
BlueWolfschultza: Sorry it took so long complication after complication, it's just loading the cd now, how long will this take it's a 40GB hard disk?21:11
schultzaBlueWolf: awhile21:11
skylin 12.04, can I browse the -dev packages? The software center doesn't seem to search through them and I don't know exactly what I want ...21:12
BlueWolf21:12
BlueWolfschultza: 2 hours, because this computer makes a noise and I am in my room and bed time is soon? :D21:12
skylfor instance, I want to look around for packages related to directfb but I don't know if there is a graphical interface to do so as there was in previous versions of ubuntu21:13
nug700I just accessed ubuntu website for the first time in a few months, but i can't find ubuntu 10 download anymore..21:13
schultzaBlueWolf: it will take at least 2 hours.21:13
guggerohey all! Can someone tell me how I assign a fixed device name (e.g. /dev/sdX) to an USB drive? It keeps changing on every boot and mixing with my SATA disks and therefore messing with my ZFS setup. Thanks for any advice!21:14
kelvinellan-iCe: hello there?21:14
escottguggero, you cant21:14
zykotick9guggero: that's why UUIDs or LABELS are recommended21:15
escottguggero, us "sudo blkid" to identify uuids and mount with those21:15
BlueWolfschultza: Ok then could you paste a step by step in the private chat so I can do it another time. What I type in what to do etc. Then if I get stuck I will come for help tomorrow.21:15
guggerook, then how can I change my ZFS setup to use UUIDs without losing all data?21:15
BlueWolf:D21:15
guggeroI'm kind of new to ZFS21:15
Dr_Willisyou mean the fstab entries?21:16
skylI guess `apt-cache search` is the way21:16
nug700where would i go to download ubuntu 10? it doesn't seem to be in the download section on the ubuntu website.21:16
Dr_Willisthe ftp servers i thought had all the old iso versions.21:16
Dr_Willisyou mean 10.04 ?21:17
nimeiHi. Is there some option such as: '--ask-me-everything-at-the-start-and-then-do-it-automatically' for the Ubuntu Server ISO installer?21:17
schultza!pastebin21:17
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:17
nug700yes21:17
Mr_Spraygood evening all, I am running 12.04 LTS and I ran update-manager last night and after the updates I rebooted.  Update-manager will no longer run (script errors), anyone able to help if I pm the error?21:17
Dr_Willishttp://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/21:17
nug700thanks21:18
Dr_Willishttp://releases.ubuntu.com/21:18
dijonyummyhow to scroll up in a tmux pane/window inside konsole. seems tmux disables konsole scrollback ability21:18
elanzwhat's the best ldap client for ubuntu21:18
zykotick9nug700: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid21:18
Dr_Willisdijonyummy:  try pageup/pagedown?21:18
dijonyummydont work21:19
E144Cool?21:19
svasdasd/dev/disk/by-id21:20
MonkeyDustdijonyummy  or ctrl-page up/down21:20
guntbertdijonyummy: I hear tmux is similar to screen,  in screen I use <ctrl>A<esc>21:20
MonkeyDustbyobu/screen <321:20
Mr_Sprayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1007177/21:20
nimeiAlso: is there a way to replicate an ubuntu install on another machine? (the same exact packages/configuration/everything that runs on this machine)21:20
ohadhello21:21
MonkeyDust!clone| nimei21:21
ubottunimei: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate21:21
svasdasd  /dev/disk/by-id21:21
zykotick9nimei: the !clone factoid looks after package installation, but you'd need to copy configs separately21:22
nimeiMonkeyDust: would that also replicate all the configuration and user folders ($HOME)? Is it enough to just copy it verbatim?21:22
ohadwhy does my brightness bar have only 6 phases? during restart it has more phases but when entering ubuntu, there are only 6. under 10.04 I had more options...21:22
nimeiMonkeyDust, zykotick9, good, thanks. :)21:22
Dr_Willisnimei:  if you want a exact clone, you can use clonezilla. or get fancy with dd21:23
Dr_Willisnimei:  but if the pcs are going to be on the same lan you would need to change hostnames and so foth21:23
guggerozykotick9: thanks for the hint about the UUID. I was searching on the wrong end. I now changed my ZFS configuration to use /dev/disk/by-id/ instead of just /dev21:23
MonkeyDustnimei  and don't forget to backup personal documents21:23
nimeiDr_Willis: yes. they are on the same LAN. 'dd' seems an interesting option.21:23
Dr_Willisnimei:  if to more then 1 pc.. clonezilla is an amazeing tool21:25
Dr_Williseven for one pc to antoerh pc.. its very handy21:25
nimeiDr_Willis: would grub work after 'dd'? I mean, probably different disk ids or such stuff.21:25
Dr_Willisnimei:  the uuids would be the same.21:25
Dr_Willisnimei:  if the HDs are differnt sizes you would need to fix that also.21:26
escottnimei, dd is low level so you can capture everything, but that raises the question why would you want to capture everything.21:26
Sargun-WorkHow much disk space does the default ubuntu pool take up21:26
Dr_Willisdd even copies the empty space. ;)21:26
nimeiOh.21:26
Dr_Willisdd most likely copies dark matter btween the hd tracks.. ;P21:26
nimeiWell, since that will take forever I think I'll probably try clonezilla first or the factoid.21:26
nimeiThanks to everyone for the hints. :)21:27
E144I just boot a livecd with both drives on the computer and copy paste XD21:27
ohadno one encountered this??21:27
escottSargun-Work, depends on how much you install 10-20Gigs is sufficient for a fully loaded desktop21:27
E144But clonezilla is good too mainly for copying disks when theyre dying or ur attempting file recovery21:28
escottohad, you can dig around with acpi stuff in /sys21:28
ohadI want to change the increments for each click on the Fn+brightness button21:29
tzhuangHey guys. I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04. My MSN account running through Empathy disconnects everytime I type something to one of my contacts. Can anyone help with this?21:32
ernandosousak21:33
Sargun-WorkHow does the pool directory on a debian mirror differ than the dists/$DISTNAME21:33
noel_gI am trying to understand how subdomain resolution is working for me.  I set up a server at my company and requested a dns entry for myserver.mycompany.com  I set up apache and a vhost to that and all is fine.  Then I deployed other apps to app1.myserver.mycompany.com app2.myserver.mycompany.com  but I did not request DNS entries for app1 or app2.  they work, but I am trying to understand how those names are resolving21:33
escottnoel_g, no idea myself but i would start by digging the app1.myserver.mycompany.com and seeing what you get back21:35
L3topsyggdrasil: werent we just going to shutdown the DM and run nvidia-xconfigure?21:37
AprelJust downloaded oracle's java runtime (I need it over openjdk). I extracted the tar file and it has a bin dir and a lib dir but no install script. What's the proper way to manually install binary files from an extracted tar?21:37
|DM|plz don't shut me down :D21:37
L3topsyggdrasil: sorry I am very tied up trying to get this guy that is only on a few hours at a time on the other side of the world to run annoying to figure out code.21:38
L3topsyggdrasil: but if that is what we were doing, anyone can help you.21:38
escottAprel, i would imagine unpack it to /opt and then change /etc/alternatives symlinks with update-alternatives to point to your version in /opt21:38
noel_gescott: thanks21:38
Aprelescott: do I have to add any links to /usr/bin?21:39
propmanthe information at the following url has changed.   I am trying to access (find) a copy of the original information at that url......any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks21:39
propmanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command_Line_and_Rescue_Mode21:39
ohadI'm using a thinkpad and it seems like the hdaps isn't working. I installed hdapsd and hdaps-utils21:40
escottAprel, /usr/bin/java symlinks to /etc/alternatives21:40
klyncis there anything running by default that would cache nfs uid/gid21:41
klync.... having weird problems with autofs after changing a user's numeric id21:41
Aprelescott: ah, I see. curious: is there any disadvantage to just changing the link at /usr/bin/java to point inside /opt?21:41
escottAprel, update-alternatives is the way you are meant to do things21:42
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Aprelescott: oh, just realized now that update-alternatives is a program designed for this thing (on hearing it, thought it was a dir full of symlinks). thanks.21:46
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arooni-mobilehi folks; trying to run meld; but getting some weird errors:  https://gist.github.com/5ea9c52fde934f8b2dd9 ... ideas on how to fix?21:52
escott!find patch | arooni-mobile21:52
ubottuarooni-mobile: Found: dpatch, patch, patchutils, speech-dispatcher, speech-dispatcher-dbg, bsdiff, cl-speech-dispatcher, commit-patch, dh-kpatches, dpsyco-patch (and 37 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=patch&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all21:52
prodigelhi all. I have a partition/mbr problem. I have a big extended partition which I've resized to create some 50 GB of free space at the end, and from windows I've created a new ntfs partition in that space. I wanted to be on the safe side with all this, but the contrary happened. Now grub is corrupted, gparted shows me 'unallocated partition' while fdisk sees them properly. The data is there, as I can mount the linux partition without problems. Is there an21:53
prodigeleasy way to fix this? Thanks21:53
prodigel... now I'm using a live usb drive to check all this21:54
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YewbaccaHi. Does anyone know how to tune the Samba server in Ubuntu to make a folder with 30000 files faster over the network? Actually, the issue is this: If I mount the SMB sharepoint and view it in a terminal and just type "ls", I get a super fast listing of all files. The issue is that Mac OS X does the equivalent of ls -l, by requesting attributes and modification times for every freaking file.21:54
YewbaccaThe result is that it takes like half an hour to open the folder. Can samba somehow cache file attributes and return them faster? :S21:54
escott!paste | prodigal send us the output of sudo parted -l /dev/sdb21:54
ubottuprodigal send us the output of sudo parted -l /dev/sdb: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:54
Frank-N-Steenprodigel, how is grub involved?21:55
Frank-N-Steenprodigel, Did you move the front of a Linux partition?21:56
prodigelFrank-N-Steen, after rebooting from windows it give me an error,  and the recovery console21:56
prodigelFrank-N-Steen, didn't touch the start of the partition, I've made it smaller, taking from the end, no movement21:57
Frank-N-Steen!bootinfo | prodigel Run the is script and pasebin it.21:57
ubottuprodigel Run the is script and pasebin it.: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).21:57
Frank-N-Steenthis*21:57
unkn-errorubuntu 12.04 have runlevels?21:58
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Frank-N-Steenunkn-error, it is linux it must21:59
edgyhi, # hostname && hostname -f21:59
edgyserver821:59
edgyhostname: Name or service not known21:59
escott!runlevel | unkn-error21:59
ubottuunkn-error: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.21:59
edgywhy I cannot get fqdn?21:59
Frank-N-Steen!pastebin > Edgan22:00
ubottuEdgan, please see my private message22:00
Frank-N-SteenEdgan, sorry, ;) not for you my bad22:00
unkn-errorhow can I find in what runlevel is my machine? (init / telinit) gives me nothing22:01
OerHekswith the desktop gui you are in 722:01
unkn-errorI have no gui :)22:02
bastidrazorunkn-error: runlevels do not mean anything in Ubuntu now.22:03
arooni-mobilehi folks; trying to run meld: Invoking 'patch' failed.  Maybe you don't have 'GNU patch' installed,or you use an untested version of Git. ..... dont know what to do now22:03
unkn-errorsysv-rc-conf show me some runleveles this is why I was asking, because I really need to disable some services22:04
escottarooni-mobile, in what way would meld depend on git?22:04
arooni-mobileescott, no idea... i'm running it on a git directory22:04
arooni-mobileescott, but thats the error message i get22:04
unkn-errorI have too mutch ram "eaten"22:04
escottarooni-mobile, have you set meld as your git merge tool?22:05
linux4ujust for it to come out the other end unkn-error22:05
arooni-mobileescott, i'm just running meld from the command line22:05
arooni-mobileescott, meld . in the git directory22:05
unkn-errorlinux4u: huh?22:06
escottarooni-mobile, i would try running meld outside the git dir just in case there is some weird interaction there22:06
nimeiunkn-error: how are you looking at how much ram is being eaten?22:06
linux4uNM22:06
prodigelFrank-N-Steen, http://pastebin.com/La0cjSjD let me know if it helps ...22:06
unkn-errorwith free -m22:06
linux4uguys, is setting up mdadm during install pretty bug proof?22:07
nimeiunkn-error: are you taking account of the cached memory?22:07
arooni-mobileescott, but i need meld for that dir22:07
unkn-errornimei: I wish too look on what is starting up automaitcally and disable some stuff, also I wish to enable other stuff22:08
unkn-errorbeside this I installed the machine in the morning and after reboot had 128 mb free, now after installing a lot of software, it has only 16 or 8 mb free after reboot22:09
escottarooni-mobile, yes and we are trying to figure out what the problem is. so why dont we start by seeing if something specific to that directory is the problem22:09
HimHi all. I'm trying to connect to a Netgear Wifi Range Extender that I bought, but it keeps giving me an error. Something along the lines of it being a .local domain and incompatible with avahi. Anything I can do to remedy this?22:09
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catmistakehello. looking for a little direction... with getting teh wireless card up on my edgy box (don't laugh... sick uptimes, does whats needed). old a22m died, swapped drive into t43 and it boots... would love teh wireless cared to work... not sure where to begin. is there an chan for old ubuntu installs?22:10
arooni-mobileescott, well i can open it on a different directory ;  and open files there22:10
Frank-N-Steenprodigel, from the live cd run these commands, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007256/22:10
Jordan_Uprodigel: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?22:10
nimeiunkn-error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services (second answer)22:11
nosse1Finally I've merged over to 12.04 (from natty) and I'm trying to adopt to the new unity stuff. Is there some way I can add a workspace switcher on the top "panel" ?22:11
escottarooni-mobile, what is the command you are running to start meld in that git dir22:11
escottlinux4u, if you know what you are doing sure. remember to use the alternate installer22:11
Frank-N-Steenprodigel, but follow Jordan_U as well you are in good hands.22:11
unkn-errornimei: thank you really, I was google for this but I did hit only unnoficial sites22:12
nimeiunkn-error: np. :)22:12
linux4uescott, is it another iso?22:13
escott!alternate | linux4u22:13
ubottulinux4u: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal22:13
prodigel Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/puxRZ6WW22:14
arooni-mobileescott, meld .22:14
linux4uescott, I am doing server? is there an alternate for server?22:14
catmistakefollowup... bah... nevermind... sources won't work on edgy, obviously... if i can find the debs i can install the stuff i need. thx for teh quick response. carry on.22:14
escottarooni-mobile, when you run it that way it does something to parse the .git directory. evidently it doesnt like your version of git.22:15
escottlinux4u, i dont think so, but you could also try !minimal and install the ubuntu-server target22:15
prodigelFrank-N-Steen, when trying to grub-install it complains: bad boot flag | Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. | will not proceed with blocklist22:16
arooni-mobileescott, should i try a different version of git?22:16
Jordan_Uprodigel: The starting sector for sda7 is 2,941,963,786 but your drive only has 976,773,168 sectors.22:16
escottarooni-mobile, i dont know how you would but sure22:16
linux4uescott, so the default server iso should allow me to do software raid?22:17
prodigelJordan_U, the windows partition manager probably f**ed it up. I saw something strange looking there, but I continued on it, as I couldn't do more about it22:17
escottlinux4u, is the server iso otherwise a normal debian installer?22:17
Jordan_Uprodigel: Please watch your language, obfuscated or otherwise,22:17
prodigelJordan_U, sorry about that22:18
zakihi all i need help on wifi on ubuntu 12.0422:18
Frank-N-Steenprodigel, something is amiss Jordan_U is your best contact at this point.22:19
nodestoolhi zaki22:19
zakihi nodestool22:19
Frank-N-Steenbetter than me anyway, lol22:19
Jordan_Uprodigel: Try the utility "fixparts". It's good at figuring out how things actually should be. If it can't get you to a state where all your partitions are readable try testdisk as well (which can search your drive to find where filesystems start/end and create a new partition table based on that information).22:19
nodestoolzaki: what is your question22:19
dbummyclear22:19
HimHi all. I'm trying to connect to a Netgear Wifi Range Extender that I bought, but it keeps giving me an error. Something along the lines of it being a .local domain and incompatible with avahi. Anything I can do to remedy this? Running Ubuntu 11.1022:20
zakinodestool: i hav pro vth my wifi its connected bt i cant able to browse internet22:20
nodestoolcan you `ping yahoo.com` ?22:20
nodestooltraceroute yahoo.com22:20
zakinodestool: no22:21
nodestooland `traceroute yahoo.com` ?22:21
nodestoolzaki: did you try via the ethernet cable?22:22
zakiya thn its working22:22
zakinodestool: bt trough wifi i cant able to22:23
nodestoolzaki: can you ping the router?22:24
zakinodestool: its showing 192.168.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data22:26
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zakinodestool" are you vth me22:29
PWIHAMSTERHey guys, how can I prevent my porn from showing up on the Unity menu as recent files?22:29
zakinodestool: are you vth me22:29
Frank-N-SteenPWIHAMSTER, turn off the save history in privacy in system settings probably, and clear it all, lol22:31
PWIHAMSTERBut I'd like the rest of the stuff to show up though :(22:31
Guest71249You could chown your porn files to another user22:32
Frank-N-SteenPWIHAMSTER, can't help you there really, just don't know22:32
Frank-N-Steenlol22:32
trismPWIHAMSTER: on the files tab, there is a option to ignore directories (or file types), I haven't tried it though22:32
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faceI need help with .asoundrc22:40
amine_bonsoir a tous22:40
faceplease????22:40
OerHeks!ask | face22:41
ubottuface: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:41
amine_qui peu m aider22:42
faceIm trying to create a asoundrc file to make my USB Audio Kontrol 1 soundcard work with Mixx22:43
Fuchsamine_: en français? Ici probablement personne. Essaie #ubuntu-fr22:43
Fuchsamine_: ou demande en anglais :)22:43
faceIm trying to create a asoundrc file to make my USB Audio Kontrol 1 soundcard work with Mixx but I have no idea where to start. Ive used [vi /home/xxx/.asoundrc] but it doesnt seem to work. How do I create and save a .asoundrc file???22:44
OerHeksface, something like asoundconf set-default-card <PARAMETER> >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/asoundconf.1.html22:44
zakican anyone help on wifi issue22:45
wilee-nileeHello channel what is the logout from the terminal command?22:45
OerHeksopen terminal, " alsamixer " and select the usb with F622:45
amine_jai un pblm avec prise on charge des longe ??22:46
wilee-nileeto the login22:46
wilee-nileerunning precise22:46
thebrassehi! after upgrading to 12.04 my ubuntu installation won't remember my wireless password. it prompts for it everytime i start the laptop. it can connect fine once i have entered the password. anyone have a clue why this might be?22:46
OerHekswilee-nilee, just type "logout"22:47
nimeiwilee-nilee: or try `exit'22:47
wilee-nileethebrasse, have you gone into the edit?22:47
amine_ok dsl22:47
OerHeksnimei exit wil close terminal22:47
nimeiwell, yes it will22:48
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Banan^hi22:48
Banan^sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sde122:48
Banan^what's wrong with that syntax?`22:48
thebrassewilee-nilee: yes, i entered the password there as well, and saved it. still doesn't work..22:48
wilee-nileelogout does not work and of course exit closese the terminal22:48
Banan^trying to mount a windows raid 1 system - it disappered after 12.04 upgrade22:48
OerHeksBanan^, missing mountpoint afer /dev/sde122:48
wilee-nileethebrasse, strange, not sure.22:49
OerHeksc/afer/after22:49
Banan^so what would I write?22:49
Banan^as the mountpoint?22:49
amine_.22:50
R33p3Rhello22:50
BobMarleyR33p3R,  we are not very hellowish here, but anyway hello22:50
XiRoNHi22:51
mkanyicyBanan^, you can create a new folder and use it as a mountpoint or an existing folder22:51
thebrassewhere is the wifi password saved on disk?22:52
XiRoNHow do I install the PHP extention FreeType GD on ubuntu?22:52
LordOfTimeXiRoN:  apt-get install php5-gd22:52
mkanyicyBanan^, so your full statement would be: sudo mount -o umask=0222 /dev/sde1 /mnt/myfolder22:52
XiRoNLordOfTime: That's what I thought but apparently that doesn't work :/22:52
Banan^ah22:53
Banan^I see you dropped the nls=utf8 there - any reason?22:53
mkanyicyBanan^, this assumes that you have created a folder like: sudo mkdir /mnt/myfolder22:53
nulldevxiron whats dpkg --list | grep php show?22:53
mkanyicyBanan^, first -t ntfs is no longer needed22:54
golffikgot a sligt problem22:54
golffikand need help, anybody?22:55
digitalslaveanyone know of a bug im assuming with flash and chromium browser where it kicks you back to the ubuntu logon screen?22:55
mkanyicyBanan^, I guess you might need that nls=utf8, i neve use it22:55
digitalslavejust did a fresh install with 12.04 and am running into this22:55
golffikwhat if i can not istall?22:56
nulldevdigitalslave sounds like its crashing your x11 enviroment anything in messges log or xorg log?22:56
golffikmy netbook is repetady rebooting it slehf22:56
golffikcan somebody help me in this boooring matter?22:57
XiRoNnulldev: http://pastebin.com/EE4318v022:57
digitalslavenulldev, im still crawling though the logs - also wondering if it's an nvidia driver issue22:57
golffikjust ran out of ideas..22:58
nulldevxiron you enter it in wrong "dpkg --list | grep php"22:58
golffikdoes anybody can help begginer?22:59
nulldevdigitalslave unlikely to be a nvidia driver issue they dont get updated often could be a kernel update though22:59
XiRoNnulldev: It shows up in there but when I run a command that uses GD freetype it doesnt work23:00
XiRoNI'm just trying to put text over a banner23:01
nulldevxiron is it php-blah or php5-blah?23:01
XiRoNphp5-blah23:01
nulldevphp5-gd should work then what errors are you getting?23:02
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XiRoNnulldev: Got it working I was doing the command wrong {facepalm}23:04
nulldevxiron cool , we aall do make mistakes23:04
XiRoNI always blame ubuntu when I make them23:05
XiRoNThat's why I'm here :P23:05
nulldevxiron as a mainly CentOs based admin I do to (always changing stuff)23:05
nulldevor following Debian23:06
nulldevJust asking a slightly off topic question but what would everyone like out of there "perfect distro"?23:08
cccangelgah i dont know where the problem lies! is it vmware workstation 8.0.3, ubuntu 12.04 with the intel drivers, or what that is causing the whole computer to lock up?!23:08
cccangelnulldev, ... damn small linux23:09
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nulldevcccangel size of install or resource usage?23:10
cccangelabout to see if this is a distro problem and try out another distro to see if the problem is repeated on it23:10
cccangelnulldev, if you are asking for a perfect distro for using virutally anywhere (off a pendrive) then ya its nice23:10
nulldevcccangel no Im building a ditro on Gentoo at the moment23:10
cccangeloh...23:11
cccangeli dont know... im thinking about chaning out my distro primary... i have a headache.23:11
nulldevcccangel install is still a basic bash script at this point using a live cd and chrooting so way of release if ever23:11
digitalslavenulldev, gdk-warning fnome-session fatal io error 11 resource temporarily unavailable on x server - how helpful :D23:12
cccangelwell... im curious as to a solution with my vmware problem23:12
cccangeli had windows 7 aero working in vmware workstation 8.0.1/8.0.2 on ubuntu 11.10 but i dont know if the problem lies in ubuntu or in vmware's "update"23:13
cccangelbut the problem tends to lie in the opengl rendering ... so ugh23:14
nulldevdigitalslave that error says whtever chromium and flash are doing are crashing the desktop. Apart from updating chromium and flash anything else done?23:14
digitalslavenulldev, no im just starting to look into the issue and wondered if it was know.. haven't seen anything on the boards... will continue to test to see which one is the culprit23:16
nulldevcccangel if your having problems with gfx in a vm most likely something thats not possible in a vm they can only emulate gfx cards to a certain extent23:16
AzizeHello, I am using version 12.04. I enabled desktop sharing to remote connect by VNC, but when I connect, it shows only a black screen. With version 10.10 it works normally. Someone knows what is wrong?23:17
jonnyboyhi23:18
digitalslavecccangel, there are also multiple drivers vm uses, one of which does support 3d acceleration but im not sure you are going to get any of that in player23:18
jonnyboy.flod23:18
jonnyboy.flood23:18
jonnyboyhi23:18
nulldevdigitalslave Im using 10.04 but havent come across that issue my chromium and flash are up to date also but not heard any similar issues sorry23:19
cccangeldigitalslave, i had this working just fine in ubuntu 11.10 but i think i found the problem in the log23:19
jonnyboydo any of you have navy battle?23:19
cccangelsome extension its trying to fire....23:19
cccangeli am going to see about disabling it23:19
cccangeldonnu how though so im uploading this to pastebin23:20
digitalslaveheh no problem nulldev, should have waited to upgrade myself. was completely stable and now im running into this and bluetooth issues although the bluetooth has been stable the last couple days.23:20
Banan^mkanyicy: still there bro?23:21
Banan^mkanyicy: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.23:21
nulldevdigitalslave I was the sme until I worked in a production IT enviroment , always make backups and rol back plans :)23:22
ajan_ajitatorhello! which one is faster plasma-netbook or unity-2d?23:23
cccangelokay if someone knows how to read vmware dump logs.... can you take a look at this for me please?  (im stuck. http://pastebin.com/igN0Vc8f)23:24
nulldevajan_ajitator xfce23:24
nulldevccangel not looked properly yet but [msg.dictionary.load.openFailed] Cannot open file "/usr/lib/vmware/settings"23:26
digitalslavehaha nulldev oh im well versed in that - made a backup of my raid before i touched anything :D23:26
ccccccrunning 12.04, 64 bit here, why doesn't a newly installed program get added to unity's search database when installed with apt-get23:26
jonnyboysex???23:26
jonnyboyd23:26
jonnyboydd23:26
jonnyboydd23:26
jonnyboyd23:26
FloodBot1jonnyboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:26
ajan_ajitatornulldev: thanks i use lxde on ubuntu on my netbook, ill try xfce out23:26
OerHekswrong channel, jonnyboy23:27
nulldevajan_its cool but simple23:27
jonnyboywhat?23:27
OerHeks!ot | jonnyboy23:27
ubottujonnyboy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:27
L3topsit should cccccc23:28
jonnyboyfile:///home/bewley/Desktop/Love%20the%20Way%20You%20Mine%20(eric-mastered).mp323:29
OerHekscccccc, not if it has no gui23:29
ccccccL3tops, it gets updated when i switch to the guest session, is there a command line program to force it to update23:29
jonnyboyfile:///home/bewley/Desktop/Ding...Fries%20Are%20Done!!.mp323:29
jonnyboy    file:///home/bewley/Desktop/%5Btindeck.com%5D%20-%20hojjoshMC%20-%208-Bituary.mp323:29
jonnyboy  23:29
digitalslavecccccc, ive seen it work and not work as well but then again i dumped it for gnome3 after about 30 minutes again23:29
ccccccdigitalslave, unity's been kinda slow for me, how does gnome3 perform23:31
yggdrasil /j #freenas23:31
OerHeks!nounity23:31
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic23:31
digitalslavegnome3 has been great... before 12.04 it had problems allowing other apps go full screen as its top bar was on screen but i haven't had any problems with it with the fresh 12.04 build23:32
digitalslavealso love how gnome3 just gets out of the way with the top left and bottom right hover menus23:34
nulldevreally not loking forward to the forced gnome323:35
OerHeksGnome3 needs a SSD23:35
nulldevonly used it on a fedora livecd to be fair but I dont like change23:35
cockatriceIf I installed ubuntu on a usb flash drive with something like UNetBootin and I changed the settings, they would persist, right? It's not like a liveCD?23:35
OerHeks!persistant23:36
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:36
cockatriceThanks a bunch!23:37
nulldevcockatrice Ive not used it for a while but there should be a checkbox in unetbottin to create a writable partition or something similar to keep settings23:37
cockatriceAlso, when I updated from Oneiric to whatever it is now, it was severly messed up. Is there anything I can do? Some graphics are missing and my mouse won't move.23:38
ccccccOerHeks, why does gnome3 need a ssd23:39
nulldevccccc not 100% but for the proxy maybe23:40
OerHeksfast accestime to systemfiles, it really boost performance23:40
golfik467funkyHat?23:41
funkyHatgolfik467: hi23:41
ccccccOerHeks, how does gnome3 compare to unity without ssd?23:41
Jordan_Ugolfik467: It sounds like your hardware just doesn't work with Syslinux for some reason. Have you tested the USB you created on another machine to confirm that it was at least created properly?23:42
golfik467yes i did23:42
golfik467it worked perfectly23:42
funkyHatJordan_U: it's a samsung nc-110 which apparently has UEFI, and he wants to dual boot with Windows23:42
nulldevccccc lol sorry misread thought you said ssid not solid state23:42
golfik467just like it suposed to do23:42
nulldevssid*23:42
funkyHatSo I don't know if switching on bios compatibility mode will break Windows somehow...23:43
nulldevsaid*23:43
Jordan_Ugolfik467: When it failed, you did at least see some message indicating that Syslinux had started, correct?23:43
golfik467no, it just reeboted it over and over again23:43
nulldevfunkyhat bios changes shouldnt break windows but microsoft break it enough for anything else to I guess23:44
golfik467but reebot was while the prompt from linux was shown23:44
golfik467reboot*23:45
golfik467sry for mistakes my eng is poor :/23:45
golfik467and it's amost 2 am here :P23:45
Jordan_Ugolfik467: In #ubutnu-offtopic you said "got SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS Copyright... and that was what i saw before it rebooted" That is enough to tell me that Syslinux at least started.23:45
nulldevgolfik467 my English is poor to so dont worry about it I am English too lol23:46
golfik467and it did every time, but after this message it just reeboted23:46
Jordan_UfunkyHat: Since golfik467 is seeing some output form Syslinux, which doesn't support UEFI, I don't think disabling UEFI is needed or would be helpful.23:46
Jordan_Ugolfik467: I recommend trying to make a USB with grub instead of Syslinux in case grub happens to not have the same problem with your hardware that Syslinux does.23:47
golfik467so how do i do that?23:47
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nulldevJordan_U how do you work that out?23:48
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nulldevfunkyHat: Since golfik467 is seeing some output form Syslinux, which doesn't support UEFI, I don't think disabling UEFI is needed or would be helpful if it dont support it could be the service thats running causing the issue crashing a loop maybe23:48
Jordan_Ugolfik467: What version of Ubuntu is on the iso, and what version of Ubuntu are you using to create the USB?23:48
Guest26985buenas a tod@s23:49
golfik467newest one 12.0423:49
kdlslsllalot of my files have failed an rkunter test23:50
nulldevkdlslsll ../ files can usually be ignored23:50
kdlslsll00:44:53]   /usr/bin/top                                    [ Warning ] [00:44:53] Warning: The file properties have changed: [00:44:53]          File: /usr/bin/top [00:44:53]          Current hash: 4998ec6cef8694ea13decb84f74199b4ff23e798 [00:44:53]          Stored hash : 12f00aef4c0b23846b664912e5221e95cc4d6a3e [00:44:53]          Current inode: 8395406    Stored inode: 8394715 [00:44:53]          Current file modification time: 23:50
kdlslsllsorry23:50
nulldevsorry ..23:50
kdlslsllis this ok23:50
Jordan_Ugolfik467: Great. First copy the Ubuntu iso (do *not* extract it, simply copy the file itself) to the USB drive. I would put it in a directory called "boot-isos" but you can put the file anywhere.23:51
kdlslsllthat is just one example23:51
funkyHatkdlslsll: have you recently run updates?23:51
kdlslsllyes23:51
nulldevkdlslsll rkhunter usually warns of hidden files only because they are hidden. So some hidden files in /home can be flagged as dodgy i.e flash23:51
golfik467k. wait asec23:51
golfik467jorda ca u give ma a PM?23:52
kdlslsllok i c23:52
golfik467i woud be easier23:52
golfik467?23:52
golfik467sorry for my incopitence but i"m using IRC for first time :./23:53
Jordan_Ugolfik467: I prefer to keep discussion in channel. You can use "/lastlog golfik467" in your IRC client to show all of the messages which have been sent to or from you. If you'd still prefer PM though then just PM me.23:53
nulldevalso rkhunter doesent detect updates so unless you give it the update packages switch it will warn on newer versions that are legit23:53
golfik467no a problem23:53
kdlslsllive got warnings for most file properties checks eg  /usr/sbin/adduser23:53
golfik467but I'll to browse alittle bit :P23:53
golfik467should I format drive first and put it as default?23:54
kdlslsllhow do i update rkhunter to sync with current file properties (legit ones)23:54
nulldevkdlslsll but you cant unless you know a Linux box in and out work out wether they are legitanite warnings or not to worry about23:54
golfik467i meant as bootable device23:54
golfik467as i said poor english :P23:55
kdlslslloh i c23:55
nulldevlike I said above it gives alot of false positives23:55
kdlslsllok thanks23:55
Jordan_Ugolfik467: There is no need to format the drive. You can either set it as the default boot defice or use your machines one-time boot selection menu, whichever you prefer.23:55
Jordan_Ugolfik467: When you're done copying the iso over tell me where your USB drive's partition is mounted and the path you copied the iso file to.23:55
L3tops* Unknown command LASTLOG23:55
golfik467k23:56
Jordan_UL3tops: I feel sorry for you, I find it to be an invaluable feature. What IRC client are you using?23:56
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L3topsIt would be... I was very excited to read it... quassel23:56
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Jordan_UL3tops: I've heard good things about quassel, they probably have a similar feature with a different name/inteface.23:57
L3topsProbably because it uses a database and goes back months and months Jordan_U23:57
nulldevkdlslsll personally I advise running rkhunter with your update script and updating its db then using chkrootkit seperately. Personally crackers dont really target Linux though we have no viruses in the wild because there using Linux23:57
L3topsalso invaluable... just search part of that magic command someone put in a few weeks ago...23:58
CelltechI LOVE the netbook desktop.. I found it under my log in screen with normal and openbox... Netbook is better and way faster23:59
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ninuxhi folks! i have to send tty1 content "live" to USB and tried it with the following:"tail -f /dev/tty1 | cat -- >> /media/usbstick/log_tty.txt" and i get the problem that tty1 cant get input anymore. where is the fault? anybody an idea?23:59

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