[00:00] <lix> DarkLobster: welcome
[00:04] <MrGizmo757> Hey guys.  is it Normal for Ubuntu to Make my computer run hotter then it dose in windows?
[00:05] <MrGizmo757> i Average 41c in windows  and i average 65c in ubuntu
[00:05] <NewWorld> MrGizmo757:  Maybe look into cpu frequency scaling
[00:05] <NewWorld> MrGizmo757:  but that's not normal and really weird that it's hotter!
[00:06] <jimi_> I am getting this error after upgrading: Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed.
[00:06] <spacetiger> I am not able to mount a shared partition on my computer ( shared between ubuntu and windows). I get an "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." Any help appreciated!
[00:06] <MrGizmo757> the CPU limit is 85 according to intel. so its still in the safe zone. but it still makes me a little nervous
[00:07] <OerHeks> jimi_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing_libdvdcss
[00:07] <gmachine_24> Using Ubuntu 11.04; have an encrypted partition. I back up with tar - I imagine I must create an encrypted partition on a back up drive in order to back up the info on my encrypted partition - is this correct?
[00:07] <jimi_> OerHeks, its already installed
[00:07] <rembrandt> updating to 11.04 right now..
[00:08] <OerHeks> jimi_, i know there are still encrypted dvd's that does not run after this script.
[00:08] <blackmatrix_ny> hello folks...I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a samsung notebook and after stating that it has successfully installed and needs to reboot...it just keeps on restarting itself without getting past the boot screen...anyone know this issue ?
[00:09] <chrislu5tic> I cant click allow of flash player tab,  any help ?
[00:09] <gmachine_24> did you remove the install cd?
[00:10] <gmachine_24> blackmatrix_ny, did you remove the install cd?
[00:10] <spacetiger> Anyone?!
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> blackmatrix_ny, is this a install from windows or a partitioned install?
[00:10] <blackmatrix_ny> gmachine_24, I used a usb and yea I removed the install usb before rebooting
[00:11] <blackmatrix_ny> wilee-nilee, I booted from the usb and did a test run and everything looked good and installation was smooth too
[00:11] <gmachine_24> blackmatrix_ny, sometimes I've had to actually turn the machine off completely and then turn it back on to get the install to work.
[00:12] <blackmatrix_ny> gmachine_24, its not responding to a power button hold or lid close...trying to figure out how to remove battery to completely shut it down
[00:12] <Aethrs> Grub is waiting at a menu allowing me to select the kernel or memtest86.  It just sits there forever.  This started when I held down "shift" once to revert to a earlier kernel, how do I stop it?
[00:12] <BYC> spacetiger: BYC Paste your /etc/fstab & fdisk result
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> blackmatrix_ny, try crtl-alt-o=prtsc REISUB run the leters slowly
[00:13] <subcool> ok - Um Can anyone help me with my grub? pLease
[00:13] <subcool> im having issues
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> blackmatrix_ny,  crtl-alt-prtsc REISUB
[00:13] <gmachine_24> subcool, what are your issues
[00:13] <Danger2012> hello
[00:14] <subcool> i have a partition with ubuntu, but im not sure which one is is anymore (im kinda close). Installed win7 and lost grub.
[00:14] <subcool> gmachine_24: trying to recover that lost ubuntu
[00:14] <gmachine_24> subcool, what happens when you turn the computer on?
[00:14] <blackmatrix_ny> wilee-nilee, wouldn't let me a chance to type that...it just in a crazy cycle of rebooting...I can only press f2 successively and get into the bios to stop it from doing that
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | subcool
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> blackmatrix_ny, I see the description is getting clearer now, not sure really.
[00:15] <delinquentme> soo im in bash right .... and im trying to arrow around through my input .. and instead of moving the cursor .. im getting ^[[D^[[D
[00:16] <delinquentme> anyone know what this is aboot?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> subcool, if you run that script and pastebin it we can most likely get you set.
[00:16] <spacetiger> BYC, etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/8EWawF0q fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/JGGGpUvw
[00:16] <gmachine_24> blackmatrix_ny, sounds as if you should remove the battery and then perhaps reboot without the battery if you have the electrical cord etc.
[00:17] <Aethrs> Should I do the same thing with grub waiting at a menu forever until i select the only kernel?
[00:17] <blackmatrix_ny> gmachine_24, Let me try that...im a bit worried that the SSD might not be ready when the OS is trying to read from it...not really sure what is going on
[00:17] <m0rn1ng5tar> delingquentme: The previous command is still running
[00:17] <escott> gmachine_24, there is a root_delay kernel parameter you can try if blackmatrix_ny is correct
[00:18] <gmachine_24> blackmatrix, _ny, well if you can't turn the computer off that's a problem right there.
[00:18] <erappleman> hi, my volume hotkeys no longer work. xev detects them, but the volup/voldown assignments do nothing.
[00:19] <Aethrs> Is there a gui or something for grub I can persuade to boot the system without manual intervention?
[00:20] <escott> Aethrs, there is a timeout in /etc/default/grub
[00:21] <gmachine_24> Aethrs, if you're relatively new to Ubuntu/Linux and even if you're not I often recommend people try a CD they can make from http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  supergrub disk 2 or rescatux - you can d/l the iso, burn it to a cd and then boot to a fix-it menu.
[00:21] <Aethrs> escott- Thanks for the suggestion.  GRUB_TIMEOUT=10, however grub will wait at least an hour.
[00:21] <blackmatrix_ny> gmachine_24, ok I was able to do a hard reboot from the bios by holding the power button...still in the same cycle...it would not even boot from USB either
[00:21] <Aethrs> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0.. Not sure what this is.
[00:21] <mophead> is there an issue with the medibuntu repository right now? my machine can't connect to it...
[00:22] <escott> Aethrs, once it sees an up/down arrow i think it waits indefinitely for an ENTER, but otherwise the Timeouts should hold
[00:22] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; just swapped the hard drive in my lenovo t420 under warranty ; and i ran the smartmontools on the new drive with these results for the long test:  https://gist.github.com/2782166 ... however the DISK UTILITY says pending sector count: 20.  ... not sure if there is a conflict here or if i should be concerned...
[00:22] <Aethrs> escott- No up/down arrow.
[00:22] <Aethrs> escott- I'm just watching the virtual machine boot, not even clicked on the window.
[00:22] <Aethrs> escott- This started when my /boot filled up and it fubar'd a kernel.  I had to hold down shift to get a grub menu and boot from an earlier one.  I uninstalled manu kernels
[00:22] <escott> Aethrs, i would comment the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT (or at least change it to 1 -- 0 often means infinity)
[00:23] <escott> Aethrs, after you make that change be sure to run update-grub
[00:23] <Aethrs> Running update-grub now.
[00:23] <escott> Aethrs, were you able to otherwise fix your full /boot
[00:23] <Aethrs> escott- Apparently all I need to do was hold down shift during boot!  I was able to select an earlier kernel and all is well.
[00:24] <Aethrs> So all that crap with boot rescue and otherwise was really the wrong track... Which was good because I couldn't get any of it to work.
[00:24] <spacetiger> BYC, any leads?
[00:24] <escott> Aethrs, but you know how to remove old kernel with dpkg when your /boot fills?
[00:25] <Aethrs> escott- I used apt-get remove
[00:25] <Aethrs> escott- But yes, boot has plenty of room now.
[00:25] <mophead> has anyone been reporting issues with the medibuntu repository right now? my machine can't connect to it...
[00:25] <escott> Aethrs, ok. just wanted to check that you got that fixed properly
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> mophead, post the error in a pastebin, have you tried changing servers?
[00:26] <Aethrs> escott- Rebooting the machine now.  I'm watching it at the grub menu so hopefully it gets past it in 10 seconds.(I set the hidden to 10.)
[00:26] <Aethrs> Unfortunately.. it seems to be just sitting there dumbly  :(
[00:26] <escott> Aethrs, is grub_default set properly?
[00:27] <Aethrs> escott- It may not be.  How can I check?  I removed the 'latest' kernel which was fubar.
[00:28] <BYC> spacetiger: can't see any shared partion in your fstab is this error occured in your booting progress?
[00:35] <Aethrs> Even installing a new kernel doesn't help.  It shows both kernels but doesn't appear to have a clue which one to use by default.  How can i set a default?
[00:38] <gantry> Some how my language got set to Chinese.  How do I set it back to English?
[00:39] <escott> Aethrs, how about just pasting your /etc/default/grub
[00:39] <oscarpaats> Hi. I need to modify grub 2... grub.d/40_custom
[00:41] <gensymv> Hi, after reinstalling ubuntu todaay, I no longer can boot into my system. ("Operation Sysyem Not Found" and no grub). Boot-repair tells me that i have efi boot enabled and need an efi partition... is there someone that could help me with that?
[00:41] <gensymv> (there is no bios option to turn the damned thing off)
[00:46] <ozpy> Hi
[00:46] <Rakko> What's the proper way to compile a C program that uses varargs? It's supposed to #include <stdarg.h>, but that file doesn't seem to exist in any package. From what I've just read, stdarg is compiler-dependent so it's tucked away in a dir like /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4/include. But even if I add that to my -I path, gcc complains that it can't find the function va_start (when va_start is supposed to be a macro, not a function!)
[00:46] <shekk> ./root/gcc4.7/build/gcc/include/stdarg.h
[00:46] <MonkeyDust> Rakko  #c++ is the channel you want, you have to register your nickname to enter
[00:46] <shekk> oops
[00:46] <Rakko> it's C, not C++. But yeah, I tried joining ##c and nickserv was down. I'm in now though. Thanks.
[00:46] <shekk> ./usr/include/c++/4.6/tr1/stdarg.h
[00:46] <MonkeyDust> Rakko  then #C
[00:46] <shekk> yeh there it is
[00:46] <Rakko> I'm not using C++.
[00:46] <shekk> maybe thats your problem
[00:47] <shekk> compile with g++
[00:47] <Guest61807> Hi, I would like to request some assistance on how to configure my CRT TV as a second monitor, to play movies on the living room, right now it has some vertical bars with inverted colors and it is plugged together via SVideo. The VGA is a NVidia FX 5500. I appreciate any input that could lead me to understand the problem. Thanks
[00:50] <HoNgOuRu> hi, yesterday at night my  soundcard was playing fine. now I restarted and I found that the onboard soundcard is as defauilt, I can't make the system to use the other one
[00:50] <HoNgOuRu> HELP
[00:51] <escott> HoNgOuRu, make sure it is seated properly in the socket
[00:51] <HoNgOuRu> it is
[00:51] <escott> HoNgOuRu, and does the kernel see the soundcard
[00:52] <HoNgOuRu> I edited this lines to suit my needs....
[00:52] <HoNgOuRu> options snd_hda_intel index=0
[00:52] <HoNgOuRu> options snd_ca0106 index=1
[00:52] <Silversong> Hey guys, I got a quick question. I got Flash on my Firefox for Ubuntu 12.04. When I get the little pop-up window in my flash applet, it asks me for Adobe Flash Player Setting, [Allow] [Deny], that one, I can't click either of the buttons. Anyone know why & how to fix it?
[00:52] <subcool> can someone help with grub issues, im having crazy issues..
[00:52] <HoNgOuRu> I want snd_hda_intel to be the default, but it plays on the other one
[00:53] <Guest61807> Hi, I would like to request some assistance on how to configure my CRT TV as a second monitor, to play movies on the living room, right now it has some vertical bars with inverted colors and it is plugged together via SVideo. The VGA is a NVidia FX 5500. I appreciate any input that could lead me to understand the problem. Thanks
[00:53] <marck> Hi -- I need some help: I'm very new to linux and am attempting to install minecraft. It says I don't have permission to execute the file. can anyone lend a hand?
[00:53] <lix> subcol: tell me...
[00:53] <escott> HoNgOuRu, if you dont want to use one of them i would either blacklist the module or just change the hardware selection in the pulseaudio control gui
[00:53] <HoNgOuRu> im not using pulseaudio
[00:53] <Stramith> hi
[00:53] <lix> Stramith: hi
[00:54] <NewWorld> marck:  Okay can you access the terminal?
[00:54] <HoNgOuRu> I want to make the default the hda, and have the other as a second choice cause it is hooked with the frontal headphones
[00:54] <Stramith> Tks lix
[00:54] <escott> !permissions | marck
[00:55] <NewWorld> marck:  OK what is the installer file? A .jar file?
[00:55] <marck> all: !permissions | marck gives me :bash !permissions: event not found
[00:56] <marck> yep, it's a .jar, but the site says it should be executable
[00:56] <HoNgOuRu> escott, I dont know whats happening, yesterday I used it at night
[00:56] <HoNgOuRu> with no problems
[00:56] <escott> HoNgOuRu, i would just say install pulseaudio
[00:57] <NewWorld> marck:  If you are confident about the source of the file, then running "sudo java -jar installfile.jar" and supplying the password should run it
[00:58] <netmk> marck: the .jar file for minecraft is a server only, if you didn't know.
[00:58] <HoNgOuRu> escott, ok, do I remove alsa?
[00:58] <marck> I got Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
[00:58] <dillon> sup fellas
[00:58] <HoNgOuRu> escott,  or just sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ?
[00:58] <netmk> the minecraft download page tells you how to run it:  java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
[00:58] <marck> ahhh, I did not know netmk
[00:59] <marck> when I was running windows, it also had the .jar file, so it seemed alright
[00:59] <MrUnagi_> how can i configure the display name of a message sent using mail
[00:59] <MrUnagi_> cli mail
[00:59] <netmk> ah actually..
[00:59] <escott> HoNgOuRu, pulse works on top of alsa so you would keep alsa, but you would also want to install the guis
[00:59] <netmk> depends what you downloaded
[00:59] <netmk> there is a client version for linux
[00:59] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[00:59] <netmk> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
[01:00] <blackmatrix_ny> Would creating a startup usb for a 64 bit Ubuntu on a 32 bit computer be the cause of my booting problem ?
[01:00] <Enkwi> what is this minecraft link for
[01:00] <netmk> and run it with:   java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[01:00] <netmk> Enkwi: playing minecraft on linux.
[01:00] <roasted> Hello! Any Motion users here? I'm trying to figure out what entry to edit in the config in the event my IP Camera I want to use with Motion is not on port 80. Anybody have any experience with this offhand?
[01:00] <MagicJ> I am running 12.04 and do not want it to lock when I close the laptop lid - how do I disable this?
[01:01] <marck> netmk: even with that file, it still blocks me from executing it in the "open with" function, and gives me an "Unable to access jarfile" in the terminal
[01:01] <Enkwi> Trying to run a minecraft server?
[01:01] <netmk> Enkwi: no, client.
[01:01] <Enkwi> ohh okok
[01:01] <netmk> give me a sec, i'll try it here.
[01:01] <marck> awesome thanks
[01:02] <NewWorld> marck:  do it from terminal with the command netmk gave and see what is the output
[01:02] <HoNgOuRu> escott, if I uninstall pulseaudio, will It get back to what it was before¡?
[01:02] <escott> HoNgOuRu, i dont know
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> MagicJ, brightness and lock I think
[01:02] <NewWorld> HoNgOuRu:  It should
[01:02] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[01:02] <marck> the last one i did was "sudo java -jar minecraft.jar" and it returned "unable to access jarfile"
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> in system settings MagicJ
[01:03] <HoNgOuRu> thank you, its working with pulse, ( i didn't want to install pulseaudio) but I didn't have any chance
[01:03] <Enkwi> To play MC I just right click my .jar file and open with OpenJDK java 6 runtime
[01:03] <marck> Enkwi: it's blocking me from doing so
[01:03] <MagicJ> wilee-nilee: I do not see it under settings - but I do have a brightness and lock - will try and report back
[01:04] <subcool> Grub issues, please... if anyone has a lil amount of time. i have tried four huides.
[01:04] <netmk> marck: hmm, works fine here if I run with:  java -jar minecraft.jar
[01:04] <escott> !details | subcool
[01:04] <NewWorld> marck:  netmk gave a better longer command
[01:04] <marck> Enkwi: it says it's not marked as executable
[01:04] <Enkwi> humm it did the same for me
[01:04] <subcool> escott: scroll up
[01:04] <escott> marck, then mark it as executable
[01:04] <Enkwi> don't remember what I did though
[01:04] <marck> how do I do that
[01:05] <netmk> chmod +x minecraft.jar
[01:05] <Enkwi> marck: proprieties/permission/allow executable
[01:05] <netmk> you guys with your interface.. ;p
[01:05] <Enkwi> allow executing file as program*
[01:05] <Enkwi> :P
[01:05] <escott> subcool, if its not on the page you can/should resend
[01:05] <Enkwi> sorry, still kinda bad with terminal :P
[01:06] <marck> holy jeez, it worked
[01:06] <karstensrage> could someone give me some ideas about what to check or what to look at?
[01:06] <marck> all I had to do was mark as executable
[01:06] <Enkwi> :D yw
[01:06] <subcool> i have a partition with ubuntu, but im not sure which one is is anymore (im kinda close). Installed win7 and lost grub.  escott
[01:06] <marck> bahahaha thanks you guys!
[01:06] <karstensrage> i have a webapp that takes standard GET requests over HTTPS
[01:06] <Enkwi> have fun!!!
[01:06] <MKeigher83> hey, is anyone there to help with a remote destop issue?
[01:07] <Enkwi> what kind of issue
[01:07] <karstensrage> it seems to choke on GET's that are too long on ubuntu running on a vm
[01:07] <MKeigher83> im new to ubuntu (12.10) and i would like to know how to easily setup remote desktop
[01:07] <Enkwi> idk, new to linux sooo :P
[01:07] <karstensrage> it seems to work fine with the same long GET on FreeBSD running on metal
[01:07] <MKeigher83> what the best website for beginners on ubuntu...
[01:07] <MKeigher83> ??
[01:07] <escott> subcool, so boot to a livecd. use sudo parted -l /dev/sdb to find the ext4 partition with ubuntu. then mount it, bind mount /dev, chroot in and rerun grub install
[01:07] <escott> !grub | subcool
[01:07] <MKeigher83> not to do funky thing on it..but for business purposes....
[01:08] <Enkwi> well
[01:08] <escott> !manual | MKeigher83
[01:08] <Enkwi> I have a good site in french though
[01:08] <roasted> Hello! Any Motion users here? I'm trying to figure out what entry to edit in the config in the event my IP Camera I want to use with Motion is not on port 80. Anybody have any experience with this offhand?
[01:08] <MKeigher83> i have a specific question about SNMP too...anyone up for it?
[01:09] <MagicJ> wilee-nilee: indeed it was bricghtness and lock - thank you
[01:09] <Enkwi> SNMP? what is it
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> MagicJ, Cool. L)
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[01:09] <spacetiger> Alright one more time, I cannot mount my shared partition. I keep getting "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: real size does not equal to size (0 != 4083007488)." Help!!
[01:09] <subcool> escott: i tried i think both of those methods..
[01:09] <subcool> i know i tried the boot-repair.. that cant detect the grub
[01:09] <MKeigher83> how can i have a ubuntu desktop setup to trawl my netowrk and collect snmp data?
[01:10] <subcool> im realding throught the grub2 right now..
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> subcool, pastebin the script from bootrepair
[01:10] <linux4u> hi guys. I am having mdadm problems
[01:10] <Enkwi> MKeigher83: can't help you on that one
[01:10] <escott> subcool, if you can give more detailed messages about what you are seeing we can probably help
[01:10] <linux4u> I keep seeing arrays I didnt create. like md126 and md127
[01:10] <MagicJ> My users find the panel on the right confusing and do not need it - how do I get rid of it in 12.04
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> subcool, or the http of it
[01:11] <netmk> MKeigher83: start by install the snmp tools (sudo apt-get install snmp)
[01:11] <escott> linux4u, what does mdadm --status say aobut them
[01:11] <Enkwi> I am new to IRC, does it really show your IP adress? isn't that kinda stupid? can you do something with someone's IP or is it harmless?
[01:11] <MKeigher83> thanks..will do!
[01:11] <netmk> MKeigher83: then you can use snmpwalk for specific hosts and get values from any OID you want.
[01:11] <netmk> if you know the community name obviously.
[01:12] <MKeigher83> snmpwalk!? easy tutorial available for that?
[01:12] <MKeigher83> how do i set a community name..or find it out?
[01:12] <netmk> MKeigher83: once you install snmp, just do 'man snmpwalk'
[01:12] <netmk> MKeigher83: it's set in the snmp server config, depends on the device
[01:12] <MKeigher83> oh ok. how do i review what it has found?
[01:13] <delac> Enkwi: depends on the irc server. this server does tell te ip to clients
[01:13] <netmk> there are default community names like private and public, and snmpwalk will poll those by default.
[01:13] <subcool> i've tangled with: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair - but it cant install boot-repair. The file cant be found. http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 - doesnt not detect the original grub, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 - can not execute
[01:14] <delac> Enkwi: but you cant really do anything with the ip other than track the user. and even that if the ip stays same all the time
[01:14] <netmk> MKeigher83: well.. you have to know what you're looking for, but snmpwalk can output all OIDs from a given MIB file
[01:14] <netmk> so it can be a lot of information..
[01:14] <netmk> or you can use snmpget to poll a specific OID
[01:14] <escott> subcool, are you in a livecd
[01:14] <MKeigher83> ok...thanks for the tip..will start with that :)
[01:15] <subcool> escott: liveusb
[01:15] <escott> subcool, so start with "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[01:15] <Silversong> Hey guys, I got a quick question. I got Flash on my Firefox for Ubuntu 12.04. When I get the little pop-up window in my flash applet, it asks me for Adobe Flash Player Setting, [Allow] [Deny], that one, I can't click either of the buttons. Anyone know why & how to fix it? :|
[01:15] <escott> !paste | subcool
[01:15] <moes> !qnx4.x
[01:16] <moes> !qnx4.x | moes
[01:17] <subcool> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005744/
[01:17] <subcool> the image should be on one of the first two partitions
[01:17] <Prodigal> has anyone had issues with apt-get for installing cheese?
[01:18] <Boohbah> sudo apt-get install cheddar gouda swiss
[01:18] <escott> subcool, try "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ubuntu; ls /media/ubuntu" and tell us what you see
[01:18] <Riccardo> ciao
[01:18] <Prodigal> funny Boohbah - it locks up on an End User agreement and I cant navigate through or past it
[01:20] <roasted> Anybody use Motion? Trying to change the port to match my IP Camera but each time I do, everything fails. Not sure if I'm editing the right entry or not...
[01:20] <Boohbah> Prodigal: did you try pressing 'q' or 'page down' ?
[01:20] <sideup66> hello room, i need help with configuring my graphics settings in a debian configuration, debian asked me to ask you folks...
[01:20] <lix> sideup66: go ahead
[01:21] <sideup66> I recently installed debian squeeze (6.0) and it all went well except when I booted the machine for whatever reason while it was booting up the system jumps to a very high resolution which is hard to read
[01:21] <prophit> Hey guys - I'm running 12.04 in a VM through VirtualBox. I've started up guacd (part of the guacamole RDP server), and am trying to connect to it via localhost:4822, but my browser never gets a response from the server. Any ideas?
[01:21] <sideup66> it continues into the logon screen, I was able to over ride it in my user account by setting the resolution in system>preferences>monitor
[01:22] <escott> !ot | sideup66
[01:22] <subcool> escott: http://pastebin.ca/2153809
[01:22] <lix> sideup66: ignore ubottu. he's just a stupid BOT
[01:22] <sideup66> k i thought i was getting booted around again
[01:23] <lix> escott: just wait for sideup to declae his problem. - will you?
[01:23] <Guest71518> Guys where to exactly put neuropolitical font from this link : http://www.unixmen.com/next-generation-another-nice-conky-theme-from-conky-lua-author/
[01:23] <sideup66> anyway I had no xorg.conf file in x11 which I read means the system probes at every startup
[01:23] <escott> subcool, verify that ls /media/ubuntu/boot is not empty and then run "sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev; sudo chroot /media/ubuntu; grub-install /dev/sdb"
[01:24] <sideup66> so I had x shut down and made it create a config file with Xorg -configure
[01:24] <lix> sideup66: you're on debina squeeze, are you?
[01:24] <escott> sideup66, ubuntu doesn't even have an xorg.conf in modern releases
[01:24] <lix> escot: exact
[01:24] <sideup66> yes i am
[01:24] <escott> lix, so can i tell him he is ot now?
[01:25] <lix> escott: but Debian squeeze does
[01:25] <lix> *sigh*
[01:25] <lix> ubuntu is BASED on Debian, escott. - is it
[01:25] <lix> so let people express their needs first. - will you?
[01:25] <sideup66> I did paste my output to pastebin
[01:25] <escott> lix, and mint is based on ubuntu. but we DONT offer support for those systems in here
[01:26] <sideup66> sorry if im off guys
[01:26] <lix> bye guys! I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO!!
[01:26] <sideup66> i can tell im not getting help here huh?
[01:26] <sideup66> -_-
[01:27] <Enkwi> what your prob
[01:27] <sideup66> I just explained it, i have debian squeeze which incase anyone needs to know is essentially the underpinning of ubuntu
[01:27] <escott> sideup66, you should be asking in #debian they will be better able to answer your questions. there are differences between the releases. i can't tell you to use jockey to install drivers because debian doesnt have jockey
[01:27] <eegor> sideone, not supported here.
[01:28] <subcool> escott: ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu1/boot$ sudo chroot /media/ubuntu1chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[01:28] <sideup66> escott: I did...they sent me here
[01:28] <sideup66> why am i getting pingponged around and not helped?
[01:28] <escott> subcool, 32bit liveusb?
[01:28] <escott> sideup66, which was inappropriate of them
[01:28] <subcool> escott: uh- idk.. lol
[01:28] <Enkwi> dood we are just normal people you know, we don't work for you :P
[01:29] <sideup66> i know,im just frustrated *sigh*
[01:29] <sideup66> as this thing is gonna be a problem if debian goes south of the border on me
[01:29] <Enkwi> yeah, I understand it can be frustrating :(
[01:29] <lawrence> Hello...need help
[01:29] <lawrence> i just installed ubuntu 12
[01:29] <Enkwi> for?
[01:29] <Enkwi> ok
[01:29] <lawrence> from usb
[01:30] <lawrence> used mylinux live
[01:30] <lawrence> but now
[01:30] <Enkwi> and the prob is
[01:30] <subcool> escott: how do i determine that?
[01:30] <escott> sideup66, you are welcome to pm lix. he seemed willing to help, but it should be kept off the channel
[01:30] <lawrence> i cant boot ubuntu w.o the usb
[01:30] <sideup66> hmm ok
[01:30] <Enkwi> eummç
[01:30] <readme> Anyone know a good S3 client for Linux? I'm using dragondisk but I am not satisfied with it. It doesn't always do what I tell it to, such as delete a directory...
[01:30] <Enkwi> when you start with the USB, isn't there an icon to install on hard drive?
[01:30] <Guest71518> Guys where to exactly put neuropolitical font from this link : http://www.unixmen.com/next-generation-another-nice-conky-theme-from-conky-lua-author/
[01:30] <escott> subcool, im pretty sure that is the issue. you cannot chroot into a 64bit os from a 32bit livecd/liveusb. so download the 64bit install image and create a liveusb from that and it should work
[01:31] <lawrence> not anymore
[01:31] <Enkwi> ok else go in your boot option in bios
[01:31] <sideup66> enki not to be a n00b but i dont know how to pm someone in this stupid thing...
[01:31] <eegor> lawrence, try this tool recommended repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:31] <sideup66> lix:are you there?
[01:31] <sideup66> !pm
[01:31] <lawrence> eegor: ok..wil try that
[01:32] <eegor> lawrence, if it does not get you set post the HTTP to the bootinfo summary
[01:32] <Enkwi> lawrence: wish you luck
[01:32] <subcool> escott: how do i deteremine which usblive im using- i have a couple. i just grabbed one and ran it.
[01:32] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm trying to use google app engine on Linux, but I keep getting Could not save into projects file /home/david/.google_appengine_projects.ini: Permission denied
[01:32] <bluesnow> I have read and write permissions on /home/david
[01:32] <eegor> lawrence, you can get to ubuntu though right.
[01:32] <bluesnow> But the google app engine launcher can't create the file for some reason.
[01:33] <escott> subcool, uname -a if it says i386/i686 its a 32bit if it says x86_64 it is a 64bit (the lib64 in sdb2 indicates that the on hard disk system is 64bit)
[01:33] <subcool> escott: nice- got it. its a 32bit
[01:34] <subcool> brb- ill see if i have a 64 available..
[01:34] <Enkwi> what is the command line again to give read/write permission?
[01:34] <escott> Enkwi, chmod (uog)+(rw) filename
[01:34] <Enkwi> thx
[01:35] <aartist> How I can make my ubuntu installation crash-proof? ie.. if something happens, I like to restore the system ..
[01:36] <escott> aartist, so you want backup advice?
[01:36] <aartist> Also need to clone the installation on another machine.
[01:36] <aartist> escott: yeh.. not just data, but for software I have installed.
[01:36] <Guest71518> How to install new FONT
[01:36] <readme> RAID
[01:36] <escott> !clone | aartist
[01:36] <escott> !backup | aartist (although this is targeted more at user data)
[01:38] <aartist> !cloning
[01:38] <aartist> !automate
[01:38] <escott> !askthebot | aartist
[01:39] <aartist> escott: Thanks.. that was a good beiginning.. I will explore.
[01:39] <Guest71518> Jesus Christ almighty is there anyone who can help me here
[01:39] <_pg_> So botched some updates while some tc containers were mounted and now there's a lot of erros about /tmp. Can I safely erase the contents of /tmp?
[01:40] <Enkwi> what do you need guest?
[01:40] <escott> _pg_, usually /tmp is cleared on reboot
[01:40] <Guest71518> where to exactly put neuropolitical font from this link : http://www.unixmen.com/next-generation-another-nice-conky-theme-from-conky-lua-author/
[01:40] <Guest71518> @Enkwi
[01:40] <Enkwi> oh sorry idk a whole lot about font
[01:41] <Guest71518> ahh nvm at least you responded
[01:41] <Enkwi> you googled it?? (I guess you did but you know... making sure)
[01:41] <_pg_> How can I fix these broken updates? Failed to run update manager dust upgrade as root. Unable to copy users xauth file
[01:41] <Guest71518> Yea... thats what pisses me off
[01:41] <escott> Guest71518, there are lots of fonts in apt so you should check there first, but for other fonts putting them in ~/.fonts should be enough for most applications
[01:41] <Enkwi> look for smting like font directiry linux ?
[01:41] <_pg_> Ubuntu software update brings up the diet upgrade prompt and won't run it
[01:42] <Guest71518> Ill try that escott
[01:42] <Enkwi> escott is the man
[01:43] <_pg_> Im getting a lot of read only file system errors. For example updating or running dog configure a
[01:43] <_pg_> Dkpg
[01:44] <escott> _pg_, mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint
[01:44] <_pg_> I failed updates and now I cant update. Permissions problems
[01:44] <_pg_> escott: All one line?
[01:44] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; just swapped the hard drive in my lenovo t420 under warranty ; and i ran the smartmontools on the new drive with these results for the long test:  https://gist.github.com/2782166 ... however the DISK UTILITY says pending sector count: 20.  ... not sure if there is a conflict here or if i should be concerned...
[01:45] <escott> _pg_, if you have a failed apt install you should try apt-get -f upgrade
[01:45] <_pg_> escott: I don't understand how to run that command in terminal. The syntax doesn't work.
[01:45] <_pg_> Oh ok
[01:46] <escott> _pg_, you have to change /mountpoint to be the correct mountpoint
[01:46] <_pg_> escott: Dkpg was inturrepted
[01:46] <Guest71518> escott Im using lubuntu 12.04 (tried to ask on their channel but they are afk)  and tbh even though I check show hidden files I can see /. fonts folder ... Im doing something wrong?
[01:47] <escott> Guest71518, you may have to create the folder, but i think its the right name
[01:47] <_pg_> escott: What is the correct mountpoint
[01:48] <escott> _pg_, im not familiar with some of this software (dog and such) so i'm not entirely clear on what your problem is. if your "/" is mounted read-only I would start by running fsck on the device, and then if that is clean sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[01:48] <_pg_> escott: Typo. Dpkg wont run
[01:49] <escott> _pg_, what does dpkg say when you try to run it?
[01:49] <_pg_> escott: I botched an update. I dont know how. Some tc containers were mounted. Now I have problems. I cant run updates. Or mount tc containers. Lots of read only errors
[01:50] <escott> _pg_, i dont know what a tc container is
[01:50] <_pg_> Dpkg was interrupted.
[01:50] <_pg_> Truecrypt
[01:50] <_pg_> Yu must manually run sudo dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem
[01:50] <escott> _pg_, sounds like a basic filesystem corruption problem which you need to fix first with fsck
[01:51] <_pg_> I have to boot externally to fix that right?
[01:52] <lawrence> eegor: the boot repair did work! thanks!
[01:52] <escott> _pg_, you should not run fsck on a read-write mounted system. you should be able to safely run it on a readonly fs. check "mount" to see if things are mounted read-only or rw
[01:53] <_pg_> From a USB is easier?
[01:54] <escott> _pg_, with your truecrypt i dont know what will be easier
[01:55] <_pg_> They were just for files. Not anything system related.
[01:56] <escott> _pg_, so what happens why you try to run dpkg?
[01:56] <_pg_> It can't run. Read only area
[01:57] <escott> _pg_, so you should run fsck on the device containing your / partition and then remount /. use "mount" to identify what the correct device is
[01:57] <_pg_> Ok
[01:57] <_pg_> Super lock is invalid
[01:57] <_pg_> Superblock is invalid
[01:58] <_pg_> Fsck is expecting an ext2 fs. Is ext4 ok?
[01:58] <_pg_> I ran verify from disk utility from external booted USB and it passed ok.
[01:58] <escott> _pg_, thats not good. ext* should have a backup superblock and there is a way to specify that fsck should use the backup superblock
[01:58] <_pg_> Ok ill try it
[01:58] <escott> _pg_, was the "fsck is expecting an ext2 is ext4 ok?" a question for me?
[01:59] <_pg_> Yes
[01:59] <_pg_> The fsck help for backup Superblock is talking about ext2.
[01:59] <_pg_> But my drive is ext4
[01:59] <_pg_> Is that ok?
[02:00] <escott> _pg_, fsck can't identify what kind of ext it is because the superblock is corrupted. so tell it to use the backup and it should identify that it is ext4 and then use the journal
[02:00] <escott> _pg_, http://www.admon.org/using-alternative-superblock-to-check-ext3/
[02:00] <amh345> when running service --status-all what is the difference between the "+,-,?" ?
[02:02] <_pg_> Where are my alternate superblocks?
[02:03] <escott> _pg_, try the values in that link 8193 32768 98304
[02:05] <_pg_> Fsck says shit is clean. But didn't fix anything
[02:05] <_pg_> Serious rage
[02:05] <lee_> 中文的聊天室怎么进
[02:05] <_pg_> The Superblock thing is because I was trying to repair dev sda but the ubuntu is on dev sda5
[02:05] <IdleOne> !language | _pg_
[02:06] <IdleOne> !cn | lee_
[02:06] <bazhang> lee_,#ubuntu-cn
[02:06] <_pg_> #ubuntudespair
[02:08] <jimmyjohn> howdy all!\
[02:09] <Boohbah> hello jimmyjohn
[02:10] <jimmyjohn> I was just wondering about the Xorg high CPU usage issue that I'm seeing a lot in Gnome when scrolling and moving windows around.  I at first thought it was an issue specific to my machine, but I'm seeing it pretty much everywhere I turn.  In one case, I was using a machine with a Radeon 6450, and the packaged radeon driver was in sue, but it seemed like the GPU still didin't handle much of the Gnome load.
[02:11] <jimmyjohn> Is this something that most people are just kind of grinning and bearing, or does some magic combination of decreased visual performance and "just the right driver" actually elevate the issue?
[02:12] <jimmyjohn> s/elevate/illeviate/
[02:13] <jimmyjohn> you know what, I just can't spell, I need to find a new mode of communication =|
[02:13] <checkm8> hi can anyone assist me with troubleshooting my laptop?
[02:13] <lix> jimmyjohn: try morse-codes
[02:13] <lix> checkm8: shoot
[02:13] <checkm8> lix: my internal subwoofer is not working
[02:14] <checkm8> lix: is there anything I can do?
[02:14] <escott> jimmyjohn, packaged? meaning not fglrx
[02:14] <lix> checkm8: checked pulseaudio sttings?
[02:14] <lix> checkm8: or alsamixer in the command line?
[02:14] <_pg_> escott: I think its working.
[02:14] <checkm8> lix: I went into the "sound settings" in ubuntu 12.04 and subwoofer is grayed out
[02:15] <matlock> so basically I'd like an audible event when i plug in a usb device
[02:15] <jimmyjohn> escott: the driver was labeled "radeon", by packaged I mean to say it came with the OS, as opposed to being obtained from the manufacturer or other thrid party
[02:15] <lix> checkm8: what notbook model?
[02:15] <checkm8> lix: ASUS G73SW-XN2
[02:15] <matlock> yea
[02:15] <bazhang> matlock, on squeeze?
[02:15] <matlock> i got an asus m70 that linux doesn't like my subwoofer either
[02:16] <escott> jimmyjohn, you could try fglrx it might be better
[02:16] <checkm8> I dont want to go back to windoze ><
[02:16] <matlock> bazhang, yes I understand that this is an ubuntu channel but this type of thing shouldn't be distro specific
[02:16] <bazhang> matlock, keep the posts in #debian please
[02:16] <matlock> and if you want i can open my ubuntu vm to work in there
[02:17] <races> Is this the right place to ask about some issues setting a dual screen with an Nvidia card in ubuntu 12.04?
[02:17] <matlock> races, what exactly is the issue?
[02:17] <bazhang> races, with xrandr?
[02:17] <races> one of the screen is totally white?
[02:18] <races> I can move my mouse to the other screen but I cannot move apps windows there
[02:18] <escott> races, let us know what driver you are using, nouveau or the nvidia proprietary drivers (installed through jockey)
[02:18] <matlock> sounds like you have two separate x sessions going on
[02:18] <lix> checkm8: pls check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751107
[02:18] <subcool> escott: ok, back.. running into a small problem..
[02:19] <races> escott: I am using Nvidia version 295.33
[02:19] <checkm8> lix: I am reading it now I will get back to you and keep an eye on the channel
[02:19] <escott> races, two possibilities (1) separate X servers or some kind of xinerama issue (2) no opengl on the second screen. when you try to move the windows do they just disappear on the other screen or is there some kind of boundary?
[02:19] <escott> subcool, ok
[02:19] <lix> checkm8: sure. and maybe read this too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[02:20] <checkm8> lix: thank you so much im reading now
[02:20] <races> escott: there is like boundary... Thats exactly the problem.. the other monitor remains white and even the mouse pointer is a "X" instead of a regular arrow
[02:20] <lix> checkm8: you are welcome. just trying to help
[02:20] <jimmyjohn> escott, thanks for the advice.  I haven't quite picked out a new desktop for this situation yet, but if I end up with an ATI card I'll try the fglrx drivers.
[02:21] <lix> checkm8: am not familiar with the problem myself. - am just trying to find a solution for you to assist
[02:21] <_pg_> escott: Thanks so much. Sorry I lost my cool
[02:21] <fslima0> I've upgraded ubuntu to 12.04, and the fan is noiser than normal
[02:21] <fslima0> on my netbook
[02:21] <fslima0> help?
[02:22] <escott> _pg_, but working now?
[02:22] <lix> checkm8: maybe also follow this (unsolved) thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986214
[02:22] <lix> fslima0: what does "top"say?
[02:22] <races> escott: maybe you could have a better understanding if you read this post that I posted in Ubuntu Forums but nobody has replied so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986365
[02:23] <lix> fslima0 (in the command line)
[02:23] <_pg_> escott: Yeah. It is.
[02:23] <escott> races, truth is i dont know much about nvidia
[02:23] <fslima0> let me see
[02:23] <subcool> escott: my mouse wont let me cop/paste it..
[02:23] <fslima0> i know it's not the cpu scaling thing on full throttle
[02:23] <races> ok escott, thank you very much for trying to help...
[02:23] <checkm8> lix: that is my post, and unfortunately that guy was so rude im afraid to post :X
[02:23] <fslima0> because cpu is on its slowest frequency
[02:24] <lix> fslima0: are you familiar with "top"? - you can see what process is using the CPU and system most...
[02:24] <races> escott: Do you know someone that I could reach to who has some experience with this kind of issues?
[02:24] <escott> races, im a little puzzled by the existence of two Devices in the xorg.conf, but its been so long since ive looked at one. you should just ask the channel and provide whatever details you can
[02:24] <fslima0> lix: i know... does not seem to be cpu related
[02:24] <_pg_> escott: Seriously thou you gave me just enough to get it it fixed thank you.
[02:24] <Stramith> Hello for all
[02:24] <lix> checkm8: am sorry for that. rude guys in a forum is a nogo...
[02:25] <lix> fslima0: I would say so. usually the fan cools the CPU
[02:25] <escott> _pg_, its not a hard problem. if you ever get dropped to a read-only root run fsck
[02:25] <races> escott: The Channel? which channel? ubuntu Channel? or there is a Nvidia channel that I have missed it?
[02:25] <checkm8> lix: its okay you have been more than helpful so far :) thank you for your effort. I still am browsing the forums for a solution, if i come by one I will post on the forum
[02:25] <escott> races, this channel
[02:25] <subcool> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005796
[02:25] <alusion> Hello ubuntu I was wondering what were some of the better twitter clients for ubuntu linux
[02:25] <_pg_> escott: Everything is easy when you know how.
[02:25] <races> escott: Great... Thanks
[02:25] <checkm8> lix: both of which you posted seem to not work. I have tried following an additional thread posted but it fails as well. It tells me to update my daemon.conf
[02:25] <lix> checkm8: do so, please. and please ignore "rude" posts. these people are useless...
[02:25] <Random832> alusion: what exactly does a twitter client do?
[02:26] <escott> subcool, once you chroot in you run "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" you do NOT specify a partition number so NOT sdb1
[02:26] <_pg_> escott: Could I have done tht from a TTY terminal ? Or no since im booted to the disk I need to unmount?
[02:26] <alusion> Random832, it is supposed to add more functionality and easier management for trending feeds and tweets
[02:26] <lix> checkm8: daemon.conf ??? WTF!
[02:26] <lix> checkm8: what for?
[02:26] <escott> _pg_, if / is mounted read-only is not going to harm the disk to run fsck on it, but you should not run fsck when it is mounted read-write
[02:27] <lix> checkm8: hangon
[02:27] <_pg_> escott: And I cant be booted to it and make it read only correct?
[02:27] <subcool> escott: ok- now just reboot? is there a way to test it?
[02:27] <checkm8> lix: the full path is /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[02:27] <escott> _pg_, you can always try to remount read-only, but when fully booted thats not likely to work (all those applications with open filehandles will be VERY unhappy)
[02:28] <escott> subcool, if grub-install ran without error then you should be ok
[02:28] <lix> checkm9: is it possible, you need a patch for alsa? http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/451594-asus-rog-g73-ubuntu-6.html
[02:28] <subcool> ok- thanks a lot
[02:28] <_pg_> escott: I figured. External USB boot was ok. Thanks so much.
[02:28] <xangua> alusion: ubuntu comes with gwibber  if you want only twitter, hotot is a good one
[02:29] <subcool> escott: thanks a lot- giving it a whirl now..
[02:29] <escott> subcool, drop back in if it doesnt work
[02:29] <checkm8> lix: i almost missed your post I will try that now
[02:29] <alusion> xangua, what's the difference between the two?
[02:30] <lix> checkm8: check with alsa first, before messing around with pulseaudio, I would say ...
[02:30] <checkm8> lix: i dont even know the difference im such a noob to ubuntu lol
[02:30] <xangua> alusion: that one is for multiple social networkd and the other just for twitter¿
[02:31] <Harris> what is an ubuntu equivialent to imovie
[02:31] <lix> checkm8: me too. - hahha. just trying to asssist
[02:31] <checkm8> lix: how do i apply the patch? it seems as if though its a .c file
[02:31] <xangua> Harris: aaah the movie player¿
[02:32] <lix> checkm8: gimme a sec
[02:32] <blackmatrix_ny> hello folks...what's the best remote terminal app for ubuntu to ubuntu...ultravnc ?
[02:32] <Harris> xangua,  what is the best movie maker in ubuntu
[02:32] <checkm8> blackmatrix_ny - have you tried ssh?
[02:33] <blackmatrix_ny> checkm8, I want a gui
[02:33] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, ssh -X will allow you to start gui applications by name
[02:33] <lix> checkm8: watch out for tjis guy. he's into ubuntu audio stuff ... https://launchpad.net/~diwic
[02:33] <xangua> Harris: if you want a  movie editor then say that, not imovie iglass ieye o_O
[02:33] <alusion> Very nice it comes for ubuntu, thank you xangua
[02:33] <lix> checkm8: let me read his threads...
[02:33] <alusion> chrome*
[02:33] <fslima0> lix:
[02:33] <xangua> Harris: plenty of them openshot, pitivi, cinelerra
[02:34] <Harris> xangua, what is the best
[02:34] <checkm8> lix: thank you.. im also trying to find out how to patch this thing
[02:34] <escott> checkm8, generally it would be patch -i /path/to/patchfile from within the project build directory
[02:35] <lix> checkm8: because this thread is an older one http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg40884.html
[02:35] <dillon> nice finally got the burn effect to work when i open windows
[02:35] <xangua> best best best....try and find out what is the best fot Your people! Harris
[02:35] <lix> checkm8: so it should have been included already
[02:35] <Harris> xangua, is kdenlive good
[02:35] <lix> checkm8: what *buntu version are you running?
[02:35] <lix> fslima0: shoot
[02:35] <lix> fslima0: whats the matter?
[02:35] <checkm8> lix: i am running 12.04
[02:36] <lix> checkm8: roger
[02:36] <fslima0> lix: fan is still noise on ubuntu 12.04 :(
[02:36] <luis_> i love ubu
[02:36] <aldwinaldwin> hello, after reboot I don't get into the GUI anymore. Last thing I did was trying to not start my Sybase server with command : update-rc -f sybase remove.
[02:38] <Omen_20> hi, i'm having issues with my laptop going to standby. I have a ASUS U56E and when it goes to standby the screen goes black but is still on. From there I can never get back and have to hold down the power button.
[02:38] <lix> fslima0: and what did "top" say?
[02:38] <lix> checkm8: it seems to be a kernel issue. I guess it has been included into 3.2
[02:38] <lix> checm8: ... at least
[02:38] <lix> checkm8: but I have to check first...
[02:39] <checkm8> lix: so what are the next steps? can I be of assistance anyhow? I do not know how to apply this patch.
[02:39] <Azelphur_> I keep randomly getting an issue with my keyboard and mouse, i can click on buttons, but cant focus any editboxes and thus cant type. i have to continually reboot to solve this. any ideas?
[02:41] <lix> checkm8: am not a kernel hacker, am sorry. divic is not online now, so try to contact him by jabber or mail: "https://launchpad.net/~diwic"
[02:41] <lix> chckm8: he probably knows best
[02:41] <aldwinaldwin> Omen 20: I read something that the Swap must be big enough to hold a copy of your RAM, just an idea
[02:41] <lix> checkm8: but hangon: you say the subwoofer is "greyed out"?
[02:42] <lix> fslima0: are you with me?
[02:42] <checkm8> lix: yes it is grayed out
[02:42] <lix> checkm8: which means, it is "recognised"
[02:42] <escott> aldwinaldwin, Omen_20 you can't suspend if your swap is smaller than the RAM used by your processes. so that motivates a 1xRAM rule for many people
[02:42] <lix> checkm8: hangon
[02:42] <escott> aldwinaldwin, Omen_20, rather hibernate as opposed to suspend
[02:43] <Omen_20> aldwinaldwin, escott  k. I had read that for hibernate but wasn't sure about suspend. I still need to try that.
[02:43] <lix> checkm8: in alsamixer?
[02:43] <checkm8> lix: this is under the volume speaker icon and under "Sound Settings..."
[02:43] <lix> checkm8: or what "app"?
[02:43] <lix> checkm8: oh, I see. pulseaudio
[02:44] <aldwinaldwin> escott, Omen20, ok
[02:44] <blackmatrix_ny> hello folks...sorry got disconnected...I was looking for suggestions for a good remote terminal app
[02:44] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, what do you want that ssh doesn't provide?
[02:44] <lix> checkm8: can you check with alsamixer in the command line please?
[02:44] <aldwinaldwin> escott, Omen_20 : stupid question ... i am stuck in console after reboot, how do I start GUI?
[02:44] <checkm8> lix: what is the command to type in terminal
[02:44] <lix> alsamixer
[02:45] <escott> aldwinaldwin, sudo service lightdm (re)start
[02:45] <lix> checkm8: alsamixer
[02:45] <piihb> Can someone help me with Thunderbird? I set it up for my school email account but it won't connect. It's not that difficult >.<
[02:45] <aldwinaldwin> escott, ok,i'll try
[02:45] <lix> piib: what connection? IMAP? POP?
[02:45] <checkm8> I see
[02:45] <piihb> IMAP
[02:46] <lix> piihb: do you have the configuration settings of your school at hand?
[02:46] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, you don't mean the ssh shell right ? or is there another program called ssh that provides a GUI
[02:46] <piihb> I'm looking at all my school's settings and stuff, but it keeps telling me my username/password combo is wrong.
[02:46] <lix> piihb: IMAP is on port 993
[02:46] <checkm8> lix: I see "<bass speaker>" as one of the options and i turned it up all the way
[02:46] <piihb> I have that, lix
[02:46] <piihb> and port 465 for my outgoing
[02:46] <lix> checkm8: and? working now?
[02:47] <lix> piihb: so incoming is working?
[02:47] <escott> piihb, have you tried different settings in the IMAP password method
[02:47] <mickel> running 12.04 trying to launch wow.exe and launcher.exe wine seems to crash after trying to click from dolphin on the executable and dragging the .exe to the desktop and clicking on it doesnt work either
[02:47] <mickel> world of warcraft
[02:47] <piihb> lix and escott: Neither's working. Like I said, it recognizes the ports are right, but it keeps telling me my username/password combo is wrong.
[02:48] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, SSL/SSH VNC Viewer on ubuntu software center....Im going to give it a test ride...thanks for the suggestion
[02:48] <escott> piihb, for the username are you including the @university.edu or not?
[02:48] <piihb> yeah
[02:48] <lix> piihb: sometimes proprietary mailservers use \@hostname
[02:48] <escott> piihb, try without
[02:48] <checkm8> lix: yes it is working!!
[02:48] <checkm8> lix: thank you so much!!
[02:48] <lix> piihb: are you sure you got the good credentials
[02:48] <lix> checkm8: am very happy now!!
[02:48] <checkm8> lix: unfortunately its not playing any bass though its just playing the highs ill work on it
[02:49] <lix> checkm8: so it has been included into the latest kernel. you dont need to check on that
[02:49] <blackmatrix_ny> btw, i just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and I don't really like the Gnome...are there themes that look more or less like Gnome 2 ?
[02:49] <piihb> Yes, lix.
[02:49] <serdotlin> hi, try to compile kernel 3.4 here on my netbook. Should i include IrDA (infrared) and NFC subsystem support in config?
[02:49] <checkm8> okay im going to write a guide on the forum
[02:49] <lix> checkm8: just check on alsamixer settinggs
[02:49] <checkm8> lix: ill update my post
[02:49] <lix> checkm8: yes please. and thanks!
[02:49] <piihb> escott: so for email address, just try the account without @domain
[02:49] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, you can install gnome-panel
[02:50] <escott> piihb, yes
[02:50] <lix> piihb: did you try just username and/or full email address?
[02:50] <lix> piihb: exact
[02:50] <lix> piihb: try all
[02:51] <piihb> I keep getting the message 'The Kerberos/G...." it went away again
[02:51] <sjd_zeus> .
[02:51] <^Mike> How can I tell what graphics driver my machine is using?
[02:52] <escott> ^Mike, glxinfo has a few lines (like the renderer) which can help, but you can also just muddle through the Xorg.0.log in /var/log
[02:52] <aldwinaldwin> Starting LightDM Display managertc/default/speech-dispatcherar background program processing deamon [fail] ???
[02:52] <dr_willis> ^Mike:  you can grep the x logs for the word 'driver' or 'Driver' also
[02:53] <OerHeks>  ^Mike terminal:   jockey-text -l
[02:53] <checkm8> lix: I am still trying to route only the bass to the subwoofer I do not see it in alsamixer. Where would it be? Also, when i turn down the volume, the sound from the subwoofer stays the same volume.
[02:53] <lix> fslima0: are you with me?
[02:53] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, for the gnome theme that looks like gnome2 right ?
[02:53] <lix> checkm8: alsamixer can be run with more options. - try that
[02:54] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, as i understand it, it is a forward ported version of gnome-panel minus all the stuff that couldnt get forward ported
[02:54] <Harris> in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue
[02:54] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, cool...thanks mate
[02:55] <tats> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu alternate and I got the following error: "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted..." When I retry it still doesn't work. It's weird because it booted from the CD and asked me my language + keyboard but now it can't boot from the CD.
[02:55] <tats> any idea?
[02:55] <escott> tats, did you check the md5sum?
[02:55] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, so a ssl/ssh vnc server has to run on the machine Im trying to connect ?
[02:56] <AndChat|565409> which version would someone recommend to use on an acer aspire netbook 12.04 0r 11.
[02:56] <tats> escott: no
[02:56] <piihb> lix and escott: I keep getting a message that says something about a ticket not being accepted.
[02:56] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, i've never used vnc, but presumably
[02:56] <Harris> in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change the icon color to blue
[02:56] <escott> piihb, kerberos ticket, its part of the authentication process
[02:57] <piihb> escott: Does that help figuring out what's wrong :/
[02:57] <Guest76372> Thanks for helping with grub, it worked. But stupid help guides f" me. That grub 4 DOS killed me. Somehow my wifi is disabled
[02:57] <Harris> anybody have the answers
[02:58] <tats> escott: there was no md5sum indicated, I downloaded it from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[02:58] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, vnc is different from ssh in that you run vnc with the session already started so the desktop already exists. so you might run a root vnc server and then login creating the session. ssh you just open the terminal and can open arbitrary windows outside of a gui session
[02:58] <escott> tats, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[02:58] <OerHeks> !hashes
[02:59] <tats> escott: shit, internal server error at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[02:59] <escott> tats try the mirror.anl link ^
[02:59] <Harris> escott,  check pm
[02:59] <Harris> OerHeks,  check pm
[02:59] <OerHeks> !pm | harris
[03:00] <Harris> xangua, check pm
[03:00] <Harris> can i use a pm
[03:00] <bazhang> Harris, please dont
[03:01] <xangua> Harris: you can try but i won't see, recieve any pm
[03:01] <Harris> bazhang,  then can you help me
[03:01] <bazhang> Harris, PMing multiple users for help is not the way to go
[03:02] <bazhang> Harris, ask here, and if someone knows they will answer. be patient.
[03:02] <Harris> bazhang,  in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue
[03:02] <bazhang> Harris, I dont use that launcher, so cannot help, sorry
[03:03] <dr_willis> try a differnt theme.
[03:03] <tats> escott: the md5 corresponds
[03:03] <Harris> in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue
[03:04] <escott> tats, im not sure. so you got a normal boot the first time with the install disk, but subsequent boots dont work. are these cold or warm boots?
[03:05] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, ok...thanks
[03:05] <Harris> in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue
[03:07] <AuzBul> Hello
[03:07] <AuzBul> Can Somone help me get a FloodBot?
[03:07] <tats> escott: no. it actually boots from the cd (cold boot) and asks for my language + keyboard, but then it gets to the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" part and it fails
[03:07] <piihb> escott: What does it mean "make sure you are connected to the Kerbos realm" ?
[03:08] <escott> piihb, never really understood kerberos that well
[03:09] <ejo> Harris: try changing your display theme -- it's under System Settings > Appearance
[03:10] <escott> tats, the standard thing to check is if the cd will boot on another system
[03:11] <tats> escott: another system? you mean, eg. booting from a CD with another version of linux?
[03:11] <escott> tats, no a different computer to see if the cd is working or not
[03:11] <tats> escott: ok i see
[03:11] <tats> well i'll have to reboot this computer then
[03:11] <tats> i'll be back
[03:12] <escott> tats, but if you have a known good cd thats a good thing to use as well
[03:14] <AndChat|565409> Yes
[03:14] <MagicJ> how do I stop 12.04 from bring the panel into view when I move the cursor to the left of the screen?
[03:15] <dr_willis> there are auto hide/neverhide/ options for that panel.  i set mine to  never hide
[03:16] <dr_willis> ccsm tool has settings for it.  therre may be other place for the setting also.  like in 'myunity' magicj
[03:17] <lix> MagicJ: System > Appearance > Behaviour > "Auto hide Launcher"
[03:18] <MagicJ> lix:  ty
[03:18] <lix> MagicJ: you're welcome!
[03:19] <matlock> alright, how do i make ubuntu play a sound when i plug in a usb stick
[03:19] <escott> matlock, you could try and establish a udev rule
[03:20] <piihb> Anyone use PlayOnLinux?
[03:20] <polygonz> hello unbutu
[03:20] <matlock> would that work with any usb device or is it dev specific?
[03:20] <lix> polygonz: Hello world
[03:20] <polygonz> you are world?
[03:21] <DarkAceZ> polygonz, that's all you have to say to get attention?
[03:21] <Harris> in the launcher the dash workspace switcher and trash are all a boring grey how do i change it to blue
[03:21] <matlock> piihb, i remember using playon linux is that like a streaming service for your smartphone?
[03:21] <polygonz> this only look like 60 people not whole world
[03:21] <DarkAceZ> Because usually to get anyone to notice me around here I have to do something... Uncalled for.
[03:22] <matlock> oh nvm that was another service
[03:22] <MagicJ> has remastersys gone in 12.04 - where do I find it now?
[03:22] <polygonz> how can you uncall something?
[03:22] <sun_devil> Anyone know of a simple accounting program similar to quickens but is open-source?
[03:22] <polygonz> if you call someone up you have to travel back in time for it not to happen
[03:22] <escott> sun_devil, gnucash
[03:22] <dr_willis> Harris:  several times its been said..  to try differnt themes.
[03:23] <Harris> dr_willis,  then how do i do it
[03:23] <sherp89> I need help with ubunut server
[03:23] <sun_devil> escott: from sourceforge?
[03:23] <bazhang> sherp89, #ubuntu-server
[03:23] <polygonz> DarkAceZ told me u all suck ballz only worse
[03:23] <dr_willis> MyUnity has theme settings Harris
[03:23] <piihb> matlock: Someone recently told me it was used to play games that work on Windows - similar to WINE, but built for games.
[03:23] <escott> sun_devil, there are a half dozen accounting programs in apt
[03:23] <DarkAceZ> polygonz, wat
[03:23] <bazhang> polygonz, stop that
[03:23] <polygonz> wat
[03:24] <sherp89> just installed, no gui, ok i will get one... no internet, but on the network fine
[03:24] <matlock> i see, i've looked it up now, was mistaking it for another program piihb
[03:24] <sun_devil> I was getting tired of paying for them
[03:24] <escott> piihb, IIRC it is wine but with improved directx support
[03:24] <Harris> terminal codes to download please dr_willis
[03:24] <polygonz> :{
[03:25] <dr_willis> harris use gthe package manager tool to seqarch for and install 'myunity'  theres numerous themes in the repos to install and the webupd8 site has a collection of nice themes also
[03:25] <sun_devil> escott: Do you know of any others?
[03:25] <dr_willis> harris and guides on themes in unity
[03:25] <polygonz> how do i leave here?
[03:25] <escott> sun_devil, look through apt. kmymoney? or is it kwallet
[03:25] <DarkAceZ> lol
[03:25] <FyreFoX> hi where can I find the latest ppa of chromium? chromium-daily seems to have stopped at 18
[03:25] <sun_devil> escott: ok, thanks
[03:25] <jazzkovsky> This might be a stupid question, but I can't find the solution anywhere. I'm trying to copy a .so file, but lucid lynx doesn't create a copy, but creates a (broken) link instead. What am I doing wrong?
[03:26] <polygonz> the end button on my keyboard aint working :( not ending chat :(
[03:26] <jrib> jazzkovsky: why do you want to do this/
[03:28] <OerHeks> FyreFoX, there is no chromium ppa, just wait for chromium 19
[03:28] <eeegor> FyreFoX, the web?
[03:28] <dbummy> Does anyone know how to turn off mutliple virtual screens (tty1-tty6) in Ubuntu Server 12.04?  (not using screen... right after I boot alt-left(and right) bring me other login screens
[03:28] <FyreFoX> OerHeks: ah will 19 be released as an update by ubuntu?
[03:28] <escott> dbummy, remove /etc/init/tty*.conf
[03:28] <sherp89> what is the best desktop for ubuntu server?
[03:29] <FyreFoX> eeegor: I've been lookingm but my google fu isnt as good as I thought it was :(
[03:29] <dbummy> escott: Thanks!
[03:29] <Harris> dr_willis,  I LIKE THE BACKGROUND OF THE LAUNCHER JUST NOT THOSE APP ICONS I ONLY WANT THOSE CHANGED
[03:29] <OerHeks> FyreFoX, yes, i have no time when.
[03:29] <eeegor> FyreFoX, I don't use chromium, I would think the daily would have at least the equal to the stable or daily
[03:30] <FyreFoX> OerHeks: excellent. Thanks for your help
[03:30] <dr_willis> Harris:  again..  themyunity and other tools have an icon theme setting....
[03:30] <jazzkovsky> jrib, I need to copy and rename my  libBulletDynamics.so.2.75 with it pointing at the 2.77 version I have installed. Trying to install free orion on lucid lynx :)
[03:30] <OerHeks> eeegor those PPa are only for oneiric
[03:30] <dr_willis> i use the faranza icon theme
[03:30] <dbummy> escott: I'm assuming I should leave tty1.conf?
[03:30] <FyreFoX> eeegor: it used to be current but then it stagnated and now is stuck on 18 since I moved to precise
[03:30] <eeegor> OerHeks, did not say to use them.
[03:30] <aldwinaldwin> escot,  service lightdm (re)start => no joy  ...  is there somewhere a logfile to check?
[03:31] <escott> dbummy, i would think so
[03:31] <escott> aldwinaldwin, you could also try startx. logs would be in /var/log
[03:31] <aldwinaldwin> escott, ok, will check it
[03:33] <sun_devil> kmymoney says works with KDE
[03:33] <dr_willis> many kde apps start with 'k' ;)
[03:34] <dr_willis> sort of an old standard..  not as common these days
[03:35] <dr_willis> you should be able to run most all kde apps on gnome
[03:37] <eeegor> kool
[03:38] <abhijitrucks> hi
[03:38] <lix> hi
[03:39] <eeegor> FyreFoX, always look if the PPA actually supports your release, for chomium it would not really matter but, important with other packages in PPA's.
[03:39] <eeegor> *chromium
[03:40] <tats> i can't remember the nick of who was helping me ... anyhow, I'm still unable to properly mount my Ubuntu alternate cd-rom
[03:40] <tats> i tried it on another system and it works fine
[03:41] <tats> but on this computer it boots but when I try to install i run into problems
[03:41] <tats> two kinds of problems
[03:42] <tats> in the first kind of problem it asks me my language + keyboard but it then fails to mount the CD-ROM
[03:42] <tats> the second kind of problems is that sometimes it won't even start the install process
[03:43] <tats> there's a green-over-black msg at the top of the screen saying "Error xxxx reading sector 64" and a dialog "Boot loader: /install/vmlinuz: file not found"
[03:44] <tats> it's weird
[03:44] <luochengsong> hi
[03:44] <dr_willis> error  reading sounds like a bad/dirty disk or drive
[03:45] <alusion> Hey anyone attending Blackhat USA 2012?
[03:45] <jazzkovsky> jrib: I need to copy and rename my  libBulletDynamics.so.2.75 with it pointing at the 2.77 version I have installed. Trying to install free orion on lucid lynx :)
[03:45] <luochengsong> good luck
[03:46] <tats> dr_willis: bad disk = do you mean hard drive or cd-rom? or it could be the drive?
[03:46] <dr_willis> jazzkovsky:  normally there would be a link fromlibBulletDynamics.so to the right  file
[03:46] <dr_willis> tats:  or a combo of the 2
[03:46] <tats> fuck
[03:46] <tats> how can i check?
[03:46] <IdleOne> !language | tats
[03:46] <dr_willis> tats:  it says reading erorr - sounds like the optical drive
[03:46] <dr_willis> i aalways use usb these days
[03:47] <bazhang> !ot | alusion
[03:47] <DarkAceZ> !help
[03:47] <tats> dr_willis: it might well be so... had similar problems (aka weirdness) trying to boot with a livecd
[03:47] <dr_willis> disks burnt in one pc/drive may have issues being read in others..  not seen that much latelt - but years ago it  was not  uncommon
[03:47] <alusion> I was just wondering lol.
[03:47] <alusion> OH
[03:47] <DarkAceZ> !patience
[03:47] <alusion> Wrong channel, sorry! LOL
[03:48] <lix> ubottu: get lost
[03:48] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, /msg ubottu
[03:48] <DarkAceZ> Ah.
[03:48] <jazzkovsky> dr_willis: yes, but specifically not so in freeorion.
[03:48] <DarkAceZ> wat
[03:48] <DarkAceZ> Doesn't work.
[03:48] <tats> dr_willis: trying to run a CD on an old PC laptop burned on a Mac ... might explain it
[03:48] <DarkAceZ> Oh
[03:48] <tats> dr_willis: usb is more stable?
[03:48] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, sure it does. dont spam the channel with that
[03:48] <dr_willis> installing from a usb flash is faster in most cases
[03:49] <DarkAceZ> bazhang, got it working.
[03:50] <tats> dr_willis: ok, will give it a try
[03:50] <tats> thanks dr_willis
[03:51] <DarkAceZ> bazhang, also, I think you meant /query
[03:52] <Logan_> DarkAceZ: He meant /msg ubottu <command>.
[03:52] <Logan_> DarkAceZ: /query just opens a separate tab in which you can /msg ubottu.
[03:53] <DarkAceZ> You don't have to use /msg then.
[03:53] <bazhang> !ot | DarkAceZ
[03:53] <dr_willis> in the query window its all /msg by ddefault
[03:54] <dr_willis> see your irc client docs for details (tm)
[03:56] <Prodigal> i keep getting a message that i have a package manager running - but i cant find it...how do i see what processes ARE running?
[03:56] <bazhang> Prodigal, open a terminal, type top
[03:56] <lix> Prodigal: ps aux?
[03:57] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Is it an other program to access ext4 from Windows I can only find for ext2 and ext3 can someone please help
[03:58] <Prodigal> what is whiptail?
[03:58] <sandyd> IBMHPGOOGLE: There is none.
[03:59] <Tensotu> hello all. how do I change keyboard layout on server edition?
[04:00] <Cnythnk> Tensotu, if i'm not wrong you do it by: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[04:00] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Sandyd: how come will they do one in the future
[04:00] <zhenghh> hello. This is for checking
[04:01] <zhenghh> IRC is used for what?
[04:02] <amh345> when i ssh into my server…  how can i set an idle time limit on that session?
[04:04] <sandyd> IBMHPGOOGLE: Not Likely.
[04:07] <Tensotu> Cnythnk that will run command line?
[04:09] <ImperialDroid> I cannot get LAMP to install properly. I think it is because I tried to uninstall it. How can I uninstall it completely so I can do a full reinstall?
[04:09] <dr_willis> ! purge
[04:09] <dr_willis> purge = remove competly
[04:10] <zykotick9> ImperialDroid: fyi there is no lamp package in ubuntu, so how are you actually installing it?  there is a tasksel task for lamp (but that shouldn't be used for uninstalling/purging)
[04:10] <LiquidEdge> Hi all!  Trying to install Handbrake and I get this error.
[04:10] <LiquidEdge> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnotify1 (>= 0.4.5)
[04:12] <zykotick9> LiquidEdge: (honestly) i'd try a different ppa for handbrake (man i wish handbrake was totally free software and could be in everyone's repositories)
[04:13] <LiquidEdge> zykotick9, Do you have one you can recommend?
[04:13] <dr_willis> !info  handbrake
[04:13] <zykotick9> LiquidEdge: no sorry (don't run ubuntu)
[04:13] <dr_willis> installed handbrake here the other day 12.04 with no issues
[04:13] <LiquidEdge> dr_willis, Which ppa did you use?
[04:13] <zykotick9> dr_willis: the package names "should" be handbrake-gtk and handbrake-cli ;)
[04:13] <dr_willis> no idea LiquidEdge
[04:14] <LiquidEdge> I tried the gtk one and that's when I got that error.
[04:14] <LiquidEdge> I didn't use a ppa, came straight from the deb file
[04:14] <ImperialDroid> zykotick9, I used the tasksel to install
[04:14] <dr_willis> i just rcall being annoyed that they still use the name 'ghb' for  the actual binary ;)  this is 2012  we can handle descripttive names..
[04:14] <zykotick9> LiquidEdge: that's your issue then.  the deb file i mean - dpkg doesn't satify dependencies
[04:14] <dr_willis> LiquidEdge:  you installed the  .deb how exactly?
[04:15] <LiquidEdge> I dunno.  I double clicked on it and it opened the software center then I got that message.
[04:15] <dr_willis> gdebi foo.deb    will install all needed deps. ;)
[04:15] <LiquidEdge> Because the ppa didn't work, either.
[04:15] <LiquidEdge> And #handbrake seems to only people in there if they're willing to idle.
[04:15] <zykotick9> U.S.C. might satify dependencies?  i wouldn't know ;)
[04:16] <dr_willis> seems i used the stebbins ppa for handbrake
[04:16] <david-yenor> Ubuntu 12.04 is awesome
[04:16] <LiquidEdge> I'm getting 404 on the stebbins ppa
[04:16] <ImperialDroid> david-yenor, I agree
[04:16] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i know for a fact there is more then one ppa for handbrake, and i know some have issues
[04:17] <dr_willis> LiquidEdge:  worked for me like 3 days ago
[04:17] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i certainly man not "up to date" ;)
[04:17] <dr_willis> there are ppa search tools
[04:17] <LiquidEdge> Anyone know of a better conversion client?
[04:17] <LiquidEdge> That's GUI so my wife can use it.
[04:18] <dr_willis> theres tone of ways to convert stuff
[04:18] <LiquidEdge> Just kidding, I need GUI.  I suck.
[04:18] <dr_willis> depends on the  details
[04:18] <david-yenor> Has anyone else experienced any bugs though with Precise?
[04:18] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, the jstebbins ppa works 100% fine
[04:18] <LiquidEdge> Just converting mts to avi
[04:18] <dr_willis> LiquidEdge:  try arista, or winff
[04:18] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, how did you add it exactly
[04:19] <LiquidEdge> Here's my output:  http://pastebin.com/a8rxiZLK
[04:19] <dr_willis> handbreak dosent convert to  'avi' last i  looked. ;)
[04:19] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, did you update your sources list after adding it?
[04:19] <LiquidEdge> Yes.
[04:19] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, whats the command you used to add it
[04:20] <metaphysician> I have a complaint about Canonical. They don't send kernel patches to upstream.
[04:20] <bazhang> metaphysician, wrong channel
[04:20] <zykotick9> LiquidEdge: if you want MP4 output, handbrake is often the easiest/best output available IMO (for other formats others can surpas handbrake's quality)
[04:20] <bazhang> metaphysician, email them
[04:21] <LiquidEdge> I need to go from mts to avi
[04:21] <zykotick9> LiquidEdge: avi certainly IS NOT supported by handbrake, so you need something else
[04:21] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, you mean m4v
[04:21] <dr_willis> arists, and winff can most likely do it LiquidEdge '
[04:21] <dr_willis> arista
[04:21] <LiquidEdge> No.  .mts
[04:21] <dr_willis> not sure ive ever seen a .mts
[04:21] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, not much will go an avi container
[04:21] <LiquidEdge> mp4 is fine, too, I reckon
[04:22] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, or m4v, as I just said
[04:22] <zykotick9> bazhang: m4v is mp4 - same thing
[04:22] <LiquidEdge> TIL m4v is mp4
[04:22] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, whats the exact command you used to add that ppa
[04:22] <LiquidEdge> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases
[04:23] <bazhang> he has two iirc
[04:24] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, and you are on oneiric? natty? or what
[04:24] <LiquidEdge> 12.04
[04:24] <LiquidEdge> Names confuse me
[04:24] <LiquidEdge> However, I am easily confused.
[04:26] <jgrevich> Any idea why /proc/mdstat yields, "md127 : inactive sdd1[1](S) sdc1[2](S) sdb1[3](S) sdh1[4](S) sdg1[5](S) sde1[0](S)".  All the drives are healthy, but for some reason they are no longer attached to the raid and it's missing one (sdf).
[04:26] <Jeremy3D> anyone here good with networking and routers?
[04:27] <vn> hello, I used to have lines beginning with sudo -c on Lucid LTS and just updated to Precise, now it appears syntax is incorrect, what should I use?
[04:27] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots  LiquidEdge this is the correct one, not the one you are using
[04:27] <vn> lines in rc.local
[04:28] <bazhang> LiquidEdge, ppa=purge the one you have and replace it with the correct one
[04:28] <LiquidEdge> That is signficant
[04:28] <LiquidEdge> ok
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> anyone know of a proper irc channel for router/networking problems?
[04:29] <bazhang> Jeremy3D, ##networking perhaps
[04:30] <jazzkovsky> dr_willis: Normally a program looks for the libBulletDynamics.so shortcut  file that would appropriately point to whatever version you may have  installed. Not so with Free Orion. For some reason it wants the exact  libBulletDynamics.so.2.75 file by version name. So, I'm still trying to copy my .so file. Is there no way?
[04:30] <vn> how can I use sudo in a script so it runs a command as another user?
[04:30] <Jeremy3D> bazhang, thanks that seems to be valid. hopefully someone is there...
[04:31] <EliahKagan> @vn sudo -u <username> <command>
[04:31] <EliahKagan> but that doesn't reproduce the functionality sudo -c used to provide
[04:31] <LiquidEdge> bazhang, Yay!  Working.  Thanks so much.
[04:31] <EliahKagan> if you need to run a command with a specific login class, i am not sure how to do that in Precise or even if login classes exist anymore as such
[04:32] <vn> EliahKagan: how comes?  and do you know why it got removed?
[04:32] <EliahKagan> @vn i don't know, unfortunately -- i've never actually used sudo -c in my own scripts
[04:33] <vn> EliahKagan: ok, gonna try -u
[04:33] <EliahKagan> if you just need to run a command as a specific user, -u should do it for you
[04:33] <vn> yeah, just virtualboxes
[04:43] <wifioregon> ugh someone earlier gave me the command to safely install xfce. I'm using 12.04 with gnome classic
[04:43] <wifioregon> anyone know it?
[04:43] <LiquidEdge> I use it on xubuntu
[04:43] <joe42> hey can any body help me copy a file into an encrypted folder
[04:45] <joe42> hello?
[04:48] <EliahKagan> @wifioregon: the most standard way to install a fully functional Xfce on an existing Ubuntu system is
[04:48] <EliahKagan> sudo apt-get update
[04:48] <EliahKagan> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <EliahKagan> (or just install the xubuntu-desktop package in the Software Center)
[04:49] <EliahKagan> if you want fewer applications that are not strictly necessary installed, and more of a bare-bones but fully functional xfce, you can use
[04:49] <EliahKagan> sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <EliahKagan> sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <jazzkovsky> jrib: got it working. just had to copy the .so file via the terminal (root)
[04:55] <jerrin> I have two Linux distributions Debian and Ubuntu, and Windows installed in my computer. Ubuntu is the recently installed distro. Both are on an extended partition. I did a grub update from my Debian distro but it is failing to recognize Ubuntu. Anyway to get back the original configuration?
[04:57] <squarepeg> hello
[04:58] <greenwolf> sup
[04:58] <squarepeg> I'm trying to upgrade a package
[04:58] <squarepeg> I had the package pinned, so it didn't upgrade when I did a dist-upgrade to precise
[04:59] <squarepeg> now I've erased the /etc/apt/preferences.d/file
[04:59] <squarepeg> and The following packages have been kept back: libapache2-mod-php5 libglib2.0-0 php-pear php5 php5-cgi
[04:59] <squarepeg> when I try to update
[05:00] <squarepeg> I'm supposed to have php5.3 not php5.2
[05:00] <squarepeg> I checked the packages on the website for precise
[05:00] <EliahKagan> @squarepeg: how are you trying to update? if you're using the command-line, what command are you running?
[05:00] <squarepeg> EliahKagan: dpkg --configure -a
[05:01] <squarepeg> EliahKagan: and then apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[05:01] <EliahKagan> i wonder if the packages being kept back is unrelated to the package that had been pinned
[05:01] <Tensotu> aw crap.. comeone post the command line for chmod?
[05:01] <Tensotu> my OS is in portueguese..
[05:01] <EliahKagan> when you run sudo apt-get upgrade, it will only update packages that can be updated without installing or removing other packages
[05:02] <EliahKagan> have you tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:02] <squarepeg> EliahKagan: that's relevant
[05:02] <squarepeg> I'll try that.
[05:02] <wifioregon> EliahKagan:  Thanks so much. That worked
[05:02] <EliahKagan> (it's not only, or even primarily, for upgrading to a new release -- in fact, except for "early" upgrades to unstable releases, it is not a recommended way to upgrade released in Ubuntu)
[05:02] <squarepeg> EliahKagan: that's the ticket right there.
[05:02] <squarepeg> thanks
[05:02] <EliahKagan> cool -- glad it worked
[05:02] <tr3nton> !wayland
[05:03] <EliahKagan> @Tensotu is this what you need?
[05:03] <EliahKagan> ek@Apok:~$ chmod --help
[05:03] <EliahKagan> Usage: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE...
[05:03] <EliahKagan>   or:  chmod [OPTION]... OCTAL-MODE FILE...
[05:03] <EliahKagan>   or:  chmod [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE...
[05:03] <EliahKagan> Change the mode of each FILE to MODE.
[05:03] <FloodBot1> EliahKagan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <diverdude> Can you recommend any screencapture tools? (for making video)
[05:04] <bazhang> diverdude, kazam
[05:04] <GeekSquid> diverdude: recordmydesktop is the application you need
[05:05] <dr_willis> recordmydesktop is handy. but recording sound can be a pain
[05:05] <EliahKagan> sorry to flood, here's the chmod syntax in pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005913/
[05:05] <dr_willis> !permissions
[05:06] <RealEyes> i cant seem to get expo edge working, or the edge where it shows all my desktops
[05:06] <RealEyes> help?
[05:06] <GeekSquid> RealEyes: #compiz channel for that
[05:06] <bazhang> RealEyes, in unity 3d or 2d
[05:07] <RealEyes> 3d
[05:07] <dr_willis> and come compiz plugins dont work well with unity and its other plugins
[05:07] <RealEyes> i have compiz installed
[05:07] <bazhang> RealEyes, does not clicking workspaces do it
[05:07] <RealEyes> it does
[05:07] <RealEyes> but i want it set to an edge
[05:07] <Daniel110> Hi i have a new hp laptop and the hard drive has already 4 partitions. I really don't want to mess around with it so i decided to try to install wubi? What is the difference between a regular partition and will i notice any difference in performance especially?
[05:07] <RealEyes> any ideas bazhang?
[05:07] <AndChat|565409> Hi
[05:07] <GeekSquid> RealEyes: do you have compizconifg-settings-manager installed
[05:08] <RealEyes> yes
[05:08] <bazhang> RealEyes, I only know for 2d, that works
[05:08] <RealEyes> how can i tell if im in 2d or 3d?
[05:08] <GeekSquid> RealEyes: and the Unity compatibility plugin enabled?
[05:08] <bazhang> Daniel110, you can use wubi, though it's more of a trial run, better to dual boot
[05:08] <dr_willis> Daniel110:  wubi can be very fragile.  if you are just wanting to test out ubuntu, you couldl use virtualbox, or install to a decnetly cheap these days  flash drive.
[05:08] <RealEyes> GeekSquid, where is that?
[05:09] <EliahKagan> @Daniel110: wubi installs Ubuntu in a disk image file inside an NTFS (Windows) partition, which is mounted when it boots, so it doesn't add any partitions; in terms of performance, it may be slower because it is slower to access a disk image in NTFS than to access a real ext4 (or similar) filesystem
[05:09] <bazhang> RealEyes, in ccsm
[05:09] <RealEyes> ok im there
[05:09] <RealEyes> now where?
[05:09] <EliahKagan> it's also sometimes more difficult to recover data from a broken Wubi system
[05:09] <Tensotu> anyone able to help with tomcat?
[05:09] <dr_willis> and wubi seems to like to break...
[05:09] <RealEyes> general? utility?
[05:09] <zykotick9> Daniel110: the fact that OEMs use 4 partitions is, i believe, a direct attempt to dicourage people from installing gnu/linux :(
[05:09] <dr_willis> ccsm has a search feature  i think
[05:10] <RealEyes> i found the unity plugin it's enabled
[05:10] <dr_willis> RealEyes:  unity plugin has to be enabled or unity wont work. :)
[05:10] <Daniel110> ah k thanks i am already using virtualbox but i runs really slow, has anyone installed ubuntu on an hp laptop with 4 partitions?
[05:10] <RealEyes> its enabled dr_willis
[05:10] <dr_willis> Daniel110:  i always just  buy a new hd for my  new laptops ;P forbackups and linux, and keep the  original somewherfe safe
[05:11] <dr_willis> RealEyes:  of course it is...if it wasent - you wouldentbe using unity.
[05:11] <RealEyes> lol
[05:12] <dr_willis> last laptop i bought.. i bought a 2nd hd for it.. got it home. and realized the beast could take 2 hard drives.. ;)
[05:12] <EliahKagan> @Daniel110: VirtualBox shouldn't be too slow but it will almost definitely be slower than Wubi; if you tell us what each of the four existing partitions are for, that might help
[05:12] <dr_willis> that gave linux itd own 500gb hd.
[05:12] <RealEyes> no one is talking in #compiz lol
[05:12] <Daniel110> dr_willis: the prolblem is that i still need windows so i would rather install it on my current hard drive
[05:12] <EliahKagan> you probably have a recovery partition for restoring the OEM windows system, and a Windows system partition ...but what are the other two?
[05:12] <dr_willis> Daniel110:  dependong on whats in the 4 partitions, you can  backup then remove them
[05:12] <EliahKagan> if one of them is a backup partition, you may just be able to transfer its data elsewhere, remove it, and recreate it inside an extended partition
[05:12] <GeekSquid> RealEyes: realize most of the english speaking world is sleeping right now
[05:13] <zykotick9> Daniel110: if you want to keep your system (and possible update to next version) i'd say vbox is possibly less hassle then wubi
[05:13] <RealEyes> at 10:30pm?
[05:13] <RealEyes> lame
[05:13] <Daniel110> System, C:, Recovery, HP_TOOLS
[05:13] <dr_willis> its 1+am in the usa
[05:13] <EliahKagan> are they in that order, on the disk?
[05:13] <GeekSquid> RealEyes: you might be on the west coast, however New York and London are getting zzz's
[05:14] <RealEyes> awh
[05:14] <Daniel110> yes
[05:14] <dr_willis> Daniel110:  be sure to make a dvd-restore disk set befor messing with too much ;)
[05:14] <Daniel110> ah no sorry
[05:14] <EliahKagan> you may want to look at your documentation first, but it seems to me that you should be able to remove and recreate the HP_TOOLS partition without problems
[05:14] <Daniel110> alrady did
[05:14] <bongsawyer> is it possible to have Ubuntu look, feel, and behave like Mac OS X Lion? Apple states Lion is the world's most advanced desktop OS.
[05:15] <dr_willis> bongsawyer:  apple states a lot of false claims and outright lies.
[05:15] <EliahKagan> if you do that, i'd make sure to put it first in the extended partition
[05:15] <zykotick9> dr_willis: don't feed ;)
[05:15] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:15] <LiquidEdge> I haven't seen Lion.
[05:15] <EliahKagan> so that anything that relies on drive letters will likely assign the same one two it that it had before
[05:15] <LiquidEdge> But Macbuntu is pretty handy.
[05:16] <AndChat|565409> Ok
[05:16] <Daniel110> of course apple is going to say that
[05:16] <EliahKagan> *to it
[05:16] <dr_willis> macbuntu - handy way to trash your install
[05:16] <pangchong> quit
[05:16] <Daniel110> why the hell does hp do this??
[05:16] <bongsawyer> zykotick9 is a wanker.
[05:17] <AndChat|565409> Hello
[05:17] <Daniel110> Do they get paid by microsoft?
[05:17] <wifioregon> hi AndChat|565409
[05:17] <EliahKagan> you mean why don't they put the fourth partition in an extended partition, or use something besides an MSDOS disklabel (like GPT) that lets you have more than four primary partitions?
[05:17] <dr_willis> Daniel110:  now ya know why first thing i do with a new laptop is image the whole hd via dd to some other hd. for backups
[05:17] <diverdude> GeekSquid: its not really working
[05:18] <diverdude> its only recording an area of the size of the control window which is just a small patch of the entire screen even though i select it to capture a bigger window
[05:19] <GeekSquid> diverdude: dr_willis reccommended kazam ... try that
[05:19] <Daniel110> dr_willis: ye i do the same thing on a cd but i just don't get how use all of the 4 partitions when they know that not everyone buying their laptops will use windows
[05:19] <AndChat|565409> dfg
[05:19] <Vani> can anyone help me configure my network? i was using tutorials, but when i enter the code it says command not found. I was told to do sudo lim/etc/netwrok/interfaces but that doesn't work
[05:19] <dr_willis> Daniel110:  its cheaper and easier for them to not worry about  the customer
[05:20] <EliahKagan> @Vani it looks like you have a typo in the command
[05:20] <EliahKagan> can you point us to the instructions you're using?
[05:20] <GeekSquid> Vani: sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces ... or nano /etc/network/interfaces
[05:20] <Vani> >-< no that was just a typo on here, i've  been typing it in to Ubuntujust fine
[05:20] <dr_willis> when did it become 'ok' to take away 10+% of the hard drive for os-restoreing
[05:20] <EliahKagan> so it says you don't have vim?
[05:20] <Daniel110> try vi
[05:21] <Vani> if i do sudo vim it takes me into vim, but it won't take me into the further parts?
[05:21] <EliahKagan> yeah, vi will work...or if you want a simpler editor, you can use nano instead
[05:21] <zykotick9> Vani: lim isn't an editor - and why are you editing /etc/network/interfaces?  that will disable network-manager for any device you add.
[05:21] <Orukusaki> ok
[05:21] <EliahKagan> or install vim with
[05:21] <Vani> oh.. nano is doing something now
[05:21] <EliahKagan> sudo apt-get install vim
[05:21] <luigi> Hi
[05:22] <Vani> well, will it install it if i don't have internet connection?
[05:22] <luigi> I need some help with Windows software
[05:22] <dr_willis> vim should be instlled by default
[05:22] <zykotick9> Vani: "sudo apt-get install vim" is the 1st thing i do on any debian-based system, the default vim-tiny doesn't cut it
[05:22] <EliahKagan> but zykotick9 has a good point -- you should make sure you really want manual network configuration rather than NetworkManager for whatever interfaces you edit
[05:22] <GeekSquid> luigi: this is not the place for that ... #windows might be a better place
[05:22] <Daniel110> luigi: you mean running windows software on ubuntu?
[05:22] <EliahKagan> @luigi or are you trying to run the Windows software on Ubuntu?
[05:22] <Vani> oh, wait, i'd said i can get into vim itself, but when i type the whole thing it doesn't work.
[05:22] <luigi> Does someone in here knows how to install Zune software in Ubuntu?
[05:23] <Daniel110> luigi: did you try wine?
[05:23] <diverdude> How is it i add a ppa in the terminal?
[05:23] <luigi> Oh, ok. I'll take my question to #windows
[05:23] <luigi> Yes, I tried
[05:23] <Orukusaki> Is there channel for compiz
[05:23] <dr_willis> !appdb | luigi
[05:23] <EliahKagan> well, if you're trying to run it in Ubuntu then this is probably a better place than #windows
[05:23] <RealEyes> guess i will just youtube it
[05:23] <Daniel110> luigi: What went wrong
[05:23] <Daniel110> ?
[05:23] <dr_willis> Orukusaki:  #compiz
[05:24] <GeekSquid> diverdude: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-simplified-way-to-add-ppa-repositories-in-karmic.html
[05:24] <Orukusaki> Ok
[05:24] <xrdodrx> What's the best way to switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu 12.04? I want to remove Unity and GNOME packages in the process.
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> luigi: As far as I know, the Zune software does not work on Ubuntu, even with Wine.
[05:24] <EliahKagan> the info on AppDB about running official Zune software with Wine is not too encouraging: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10663 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5741
[05:25] <luigi> Well, it does not installs at all, just gets me into a kind of error
[05:25] <luigi> let me retry it again
[05:25] <zykotick9> xrdodrx: i'm not sure if this is current but "/msg ubottu purekde"
[05:25] <rkhshm> is there a good rdp client for ubuntu?
[05:25] <rkhshm> I have remmina and it sucks
[05:25] <luigi> "extracting files"
[05:25] <rkhshm> I need another one urgently pls
[05:26] <EliahKagan> @xrdodrx take a look at this: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[05:26] <luigi> "Internal errors-invalid parameters received"
[05:26] <GeekSquid> rkhshm: tsclient works well for me
[05:26] <GeekSquid> rkhshm: this is for logging into windows?
[05:26] <rkhshm> GeekSquid: no loggin into another ubuntu server
[05:26] <xrdodrx> thanks EliahKagan
[05:27] <GeekSquid> rkhshm: vinagre is the common one I use
[05:27] <rkhshm> GeekSquid: there is no tsclient
[05:27] <GeekSquid> rkhshm: sudo apt-get install tsclient
[05:27]  * zykotick9 thinks remote gui is silly, ssh with X when required, so much faster.
[05:28] <rkhshm> no such pkg
[05:28] <dr_willis> !info tsclient
[05:28] <dr_willis> !find tsclient
[05:28] <Onixs> !ufail
[05:29] <dashProblemHelp> newly installed 12.04 and Dash doesn't work. I think it might have something to do with my graphics because it says Im running in low resolution mode.  Anyone know much about this?  Please.  Thanks.
[05:29] <dr_willis> dashProblemHelp:  and your video card/chipset is?
[05:29] <dashProblemHelp> let me get it one sec
[05:29] <diverdude> dr_willis: where do i specify the output video file in this kazam?
[05:30] <zykotick9> dashProblemHelp: if you aren't sure - "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal would tell you
[05:30] <dr_willis> diverdude:  no idea. never used it
[05:30] <Odd-rationale> diverdude: should give you the option to save video once you stop recording
[05:31] <dashProblemHelp> Advanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B60
[05:31] <EliahKagan> @xrdrdrx just make sure to install kubuntu-desktop before you remove ubuntu-desktop and related packages
[05:31] <luigi> Since not using windows, they took me back here
[05:31] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: no it didn't
[05:31] <dr_willis> luigi:  you  should check  the  wine  app database thsat app  may  not  work in wine at all
[05:32] <Odd-rationale> diverdude: did you pause recording or select finish recording?
[05:32] <luigi> no workarounds or so? :(
[05:32] <dr_willis> luigi:  the wine people/devs may  know.  not  us.
[05:32] <dr_willis> luigi:  thsats the point  of the wine app database
[05:32] <dr_willis> !appdb
[05:32] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: ahh it takes a while before it appears
[05:33] <Odd-rationale> luigi: I've tried before. Zune software does not work on ubuntu
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[05:33] <EliahKagan> unfortunately it doesn't look like there's much of any way to use a Zune in Ubuntu right now (http://askubuntu.com/questions/1307/zune-ubuntu-what-are-my-options)
[05:33] <dashProblemHelp> dr_willis: Advanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B60
[05:34] <dr_willis> dashProblemHelp:  means  nothing to  me.. you did  run the  addational hardware tool and  see if it  needed any extra drivers?
[05:34] <dashProblemHelp> zykotick9: Advanced Micro Devices AMD nee ATI RV 370 5B60
[05:35] <dashProblemHelp> dr_willis: I have not. Is the additional hardware tool called "additional hardware tool?"
[05:35] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: hmm seems like a pretty unstable program
[05:35] <Vani> how do i check if ubuntu has internet access?
[05:35] <dr_willis> dashProblemHelp:  no idea. it is always changeing names in each release. i  run it from terminal 'gksudo jockey-gtk'
[05:36] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: ok...the delaytime is just really big
[05:36] <luigi> Well, thanks for the help. If was for Zune I could be totally Windows-free. Hope you guys can make some workaround it.  Time to get the Windows DVD back. See ya 'round.
[05:36] <dashProblemHelp> dr_willis: I see, I will look into that. thank you.
[05:36] <Odd-rationale> diverdude: part of the problem of having it coded all in python... :)
[05:36]  * dr_willis would just toss the zune
[05:37] <luigi> Can't, I am using a Lumia 900. Kind of can't.
[05:37] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: python is not that slow is it? I think it must be poorly programmed
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> diverdude: That's probably it too.
[05:40] <christusus> hi
[05:41] <christusus> someone helps me to boot from another kernel? i have no gui here and it has to set-up over shell?
[05:41] <celthunder> christusus: edit the kernel/initrd line in grub
[05:41] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: whenever I type in Capitals on any IRC channel does that message is displayed in other's OSD?
[05:41] <dr_willis> christusus:  what other kernel?
[05:42] <dr_willis> thauriswulfa:  no.
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> thauriswulfa: nope. probably when someone mentions your nick
[05:44] <thauriswulfa> One more question, well its not a #ubuntu question in its whole but what ANSI escape sequences should I use to make console output colorful in Java?
[05:44] <RealEyes> sometimes, after switching views... My apps wont respond
[05:44] <RealEyes> like
[05:44] <RealEyes> i have to minimize it or something before it will react
[05:44] <alankila> thauriswulfa: \u001b[3;32m
[05:44] <RealEyes> i thought have this on SSD would be better
[05:45] <RealEyes> doesnt seem to matter when my stuff doesnt respond everytime
[05:45] <thauriswulfa> alankila: do you know a list of them?
[05:45] <RealEyes> also, the sidetab sometimes wont notice my mouse trying to pop it out
[05:46] <alankila> thauriswulfa: not really... that kind of list is out there. iirc the latter 3<color>m sets the color, the former selects style. there was some choices like underline, bold, for the style
[05:46] <RealEyes> like right now
[05:46] <RealEyes> it wont pop out
[05:46] <bazhang> !enter | RealEyes
[05:46] <roshan> Hello
[05:46] <RealEyes> and when i click the left edge, its acting like pidgin is there but its not! but when i double click, it opens a chat window
[05:47] <RealEyes> ubuntu sucksss because of these little problems
[05:47] <roshan> I was trying to copile a kernel with Ubuntu 12.0 as secified inone of the ubuntu help pages
[05:47] <alusion> How do I make a hidden folder or the equivalent of gallery lock on ubuntu ?
[05:47] <alusion> HOW DO I HIDE MY PR0NZ
[05:47] <Vani> >-< I just figured out why i was having that problem with vim, I didn't realize i needed a space between vim and /etc/network/interfaces
[05:47] <roshan> A particular section on the tutorial askes me to enable "Kernel module loader"
[05:48] <roshan> But I couldn't find any?
[05:48] <roshan> Where could I find it ?
[05:49] <DaZ> alusion: get truecrypt :f
[05:50] <RealEyes> Pidgin will never show my messenger list, the dock/sidepanel just decides when it wants to behave and when it doesnt want to show. Switching workspaces is nice, but sometimes my apps dont respond right after.
[05:50] <RealEyes> ridiculous!
[05:51] <EliahKagan> @alusion i'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but files and folders whose names start with a . character are hidden by default
[05:51] <alusion> ahah that was the trick i was looking for actually
[05:51] <alusion> thanks!
[05:51] <EliahKagan> you can still show hidden folders in Nautilus and other file browsers, or pass the -a flag to ls, to see them
[05:52] <EliahKagan> the main purpose of dotfiles and dot-directories is to be out of the user's way when you don't *want* to see them
[05:52] <EliahKagan> they're mainly used for configuration information
[05:53] <alusion>  i see ctrl-h is used to show hidden files, i am still gunna encrypt my stash ;D
[05:53] <EliahKagan> yeah, i was going to say, if you have files you need to prevent others from reading even if they have access to them, you should use encryption
[05:53] <EliahKagan> with a strong key/password
[05:54] <EliahKagan> of course, if it's actually just pr0n, then it may not really matter that much ...confidential client files or medical records and the like are a different story
[05:54] <arulmozhi> need help. guys. I thought posting it here is irrelevant. but now i hav no choice anybody?? please help. here is my post on linuxforums http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/kernel/189128-basic-requirements.html
[05:55] <Sargun-Work> What is the overflow device mounted on /tmp?
[05:56] <EliahKagan> @arulmozhi If you want to make your own distro, check out http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[05:56] <EliahKagan> that's not Ubuntu
[05:57] <EliahKagan> but Ubuntu may not be what you want
[05:58] <EliahKagan> if you want to customize Ubuntu live media to incorporate the software you need, and you want to do it from scratch rather than starting with an existing live CD image, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[06:04] <RealEyes> brasero would be good to burn an .iso to disc, yes?
[06:07] <phoenix_k5> ya brasero is good. if you need more stuff k3b is even faster and better
[06:07] <Vani> How can you tell if you're connected to the internet?
[06:08] <dagerik> test
[06:09] <phoenix_k5> try typing "ping www.google.com"
[06:09] <phoenix_k5> if it return some timing you are connected to internet. otherwise it will show an error
[06:09] <dizzylizzy> ping -c 3 google.com is probably better
[06:09] <dizzylizzy> wait why did I say anything nvm
[06:10] <Vani> says unknown host
[06:10] <ferni> ping 8.8.8.8
[06:11] <Orukusaki> My desktop went completely blank how do i restore
[06:12] <Vani> Is the internet under network? cause when i look i only see a loopback, and I don't see etho or wireless
[06:12] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: ohhh gooood...recorded a 30 minute long video....that will take forever before the savebox appears
[06:13] <diverdude> Odd-rationale: thats pretty hilarious on todays strong computers
[06:15] <dmarjos> Hi... I need to know how to recover Windows XP boot after installing Ubuntu 10.10. My XP partition isn't the boot one. That's the Ubuntu partition...
[06:15] <Vani> can ubuntu use the same internet i use for windows? will it connect to a modem?
[06:15] <dr_willis> what kind of modem vani
[06:15] <StarryNight> yes sir i had no problems with none
[06:15] <Vani> belkin?
[06:16] <dr_willis> not brand... kind.
[06:16] <dr_willis> how are yiu getting your internet
[06:17] <Vani> crap, i feel like an idiot, I know it's wireless and through comcast..
[06:17] <grendal-prime> ubuntu-server
[06:17] <dr_willis> a normal 'cable' modem works fine here for me with linux or windows. I normally  plug a 'cable' modem into a router.
[06:18] <dr_willis> then the pcs go into the router
[06:18] <Vani> sorry.. yess.. cable.
[06:18] <dr_willis> so  its a cable modem going straight via a network cable to thepc? or how
[06:19] <Vani> It's wirelss
[06:19] <dr_willis> your cable modem has wireelss built in?
[06:20] <Vani> I have a wireless card on my computer... do cable modems not usually have wirelss built in?
[06:20] <dr_willis> Vani:  i saw a few high end Mortolla cable modems that did. I dident buy one of those. better to use a modem + a router
[06:22] <Vani> umm.. well my dad's the one who has the internet set up... but i know when i have to restart the internet I think there's 2 different devices, so maybe we have a modem and a router?
[06:23] <dr_willis> if you only hasve a wireless connection to the internet from your pc. then you may need to do addational work getting your WIreLESS card working in linux.. nothing to do with the modem/router
[06:27] <Vani> well i just checked, and we have a wireless router. I kinda figured I'd have to do some extra work, since when i was intalling it couldn't find anything under etho or wireless... so i skipped it..
[06:34] <dr_willis> easiest thing to do woul  dbe to run a wire for a short time, install all updates/upgrades and run the addational drivers tool to see if it  suggests any extra wireless drivers
[06:35] <Vani> errr.. guess i'll have to wait till tomorrow for that, cause i dunno where any wires to do that would be at, since my dad is in charge of that.
[06:35] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: just to make sure, you are trying to set up a laptop right?
[06:35] <Vani> Yeah
[06:36] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the output of "lspci" into it?
[06:36] <Vani> I debated trying to do it on the desktop i'm on, but this desktop was made in 2003, and it's 32 bit, and i had the 64 bit version was i was worried it wouldn't run right.
[06:37] <Vani> umm.. i'll check it out?
[06:37] <dr_willis> 64bit os wont run on 32bit hardware
[06:37] <dr_willis> so it wouldent have been an issue. ;)
[06:37] <alusion> dr_willis has a taste in trance =)
[06:38] <Vani> uhh.. wouldn't it just not running be an issue?
[06:38] <shape> Hello, I just installed an ATI/AMD video card on my computer. Used to have Nvidia. How do I uninstall the Nvidia drivers? In jokey it shows only the AMD/ATI ones now and no option to remove the Nvidia ones. Should I run sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current ? - Will this do it?
[06:38] <dr_willis> 'wouldent run right' --. it woldent run at all.
[06:38] <niklasfi> hey, i am looking for an upstart event my battery management can start on. this is what i tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005983/ this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1005984/
[06:39] <Vani> well.. not running at all, still wouldn't be running right. I did figure it wouldn't run, but I knew if it could somehow do that, that it would have problems
[06:39] <dr_willis> shape check the xorg.conf  file also. you may need to remove it. or rename it.. or edit it
[06:40] <shape> dr_willis, is there a GUI way to do this?
[06:40] <dr_willis> vani  lubuntu or even ubuntu may run ok on that box. dependin on its hardware
[06:40] <dr_willis> shape for what : its just a text file... look  for it/at it...
[06:40] <Vani> well.. either way i'd still have the internet problem
[06:40] <shape> dr_willis so what should I do about xorg.conf ?
[06:41] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: can you run "lspci" in a terminal and look for something with "network" in the name?
[06:41] <booi> DarwinSurvivor, lol nice nick. :)
[06:41] <DarwinSurvivor> booi: thank you
[06:41] <dr_willis> shape if its beenb customized for your nvidia card. remove/remame it.. you can rename it anyway if you wanted to be extra safe.. but it may not even exist.. so go see if its there
[06:42] <jgrevich> Any mdadm experts here?  My controller card falsely disabled 6 of my 7 raid disks and messed up their superblocks.  Can I safely wipe the superblocks from those 6 drives and recreate the array?  Do I need to figure out the correct order (since they may not be in order of drive letter?)
[06:42] <shape> dr_willis, so if i rename it, when I install the ati drivers a new xorg.conf will be created correct?
[06:42] <dr_willis> shape an xorg.conf is often not needed at all
[06:42] <Vani> uhh.. in a terminal? like when using desktop version? I think if i were on desktop it would be easier, i'm on server, and I probably shouldn't be cause I don't know what I'm doing yet..
[06:43] <dr_willis> why did you instgall the server edition vani? what was you hoping to gain by that
[06:44] <Vani> well.... I was using elithecomputerguy@youtube.com's tutorials, and it sounded like he was mostly gonna use server version, and he was saying how a lot of the things don't work as well in desktop
[06:44] <dr_willis> i cant imasgine anything that works  'better' on a server  thsat wouldent work as well on a desktop
[06:45] <dr_willis> so i sugest doing a desktop install..
[06:45] <Vani> and i realized later that i could have use desktop and used the terminal...  well.. Yeah, I dunno, I'm listening to other people because i don't know
[06:46] <Vani> I have it on a boot disk, cause i was originall going to do that, and then his first actually tutorial he was saying he was using server...
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> Vani: well lesson learned and now you can spend a fun 30 minutes for a reinstall :)
[06:46] <shape> dr_willis I cant rename the xorg file
[06:46] <dr_willis> might be a good ideas to find a better set of tutorials....
[06:47] <dr_willis> shape its a system file. so you need root rights to do it.. linux fundamentals
[06:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: I just browsed his videos and most of them appear to be on fairly advanced topics (VPN, tcp/ip, snmp, etc). I'd recommend sticking with the ubuntu desktop tutorials and then going back to his videos after you've learned your way around linux first
[06:47] <dr_willis> sudo mv /pth/to/thing /path/to/thing.backup
[06:47] <Vani> yeahhh.... I kinda think so too, because the version he was using in the tutorail was from 2010 or something, so i keep seeing differences and getting confused
[06:48] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: go with desktop version. All the underlying stuff is the same except also installs a GUI which make the computer MUCH easier to use
[06:48] <shape> dr_willis yep, thanks! But may I ask, isn't xorg.conf needed?
[06:49] <dr_willis> shape x auto configures for the most part these days.. been that way for like 2+ years now
[06:49] <DarwinSurvivor> shape: xorg.conf is no longer needed. it is only used when you want to change defaults and do some fairly special setups. for 95% of users, they will never need one
[06:49] <dr_willis> look in the xorg.conf file. its most likely like 4 lines..
[06:49] <Vani> what's the code to shut down?
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> Vani: sudo halt
[06:49] <dr_willis> all my xorg.conf does is eneable twinview and the monitor layout
[06:50] <dr_willis> vani or 'shutdown'  logical eh?
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> or 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[06:50] <Vani> ahh, yeah the sudo shutdown -h now is the one i saw last night.
[06:50] <shape> dr_willis, done, so now I just have to install the Ati drivers correct?
[06:50] <Vani> i'm getting tired and felt lazy, and you guys know it so i figured i'd just ask you guys
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> Vani: heh you should come here more often if you can't find a recent tutorial(s)
[06:51] <dr_willis> shape many ati cards are decently supported (or only supported) by the gpl drivers. so it depends on your card
[06:51] <sheep_> #ubuntu
[06:51] <sheep_> Hi there.
[06:51] <shape> DarwinSurvivor, Thanks btw!
[06:52] <shape> dr_willis, I need to install the drivers so I can get 3d acceleration working :(
[06:52] <sheep_> Is someone using Live voyager on a liveusb ?
[06:52] <Vani> yeah.. well.. even after i realized when trying to look at the network information that i needed a space, it still messed up again..
[06:52] <dr_willis> never heard of 'live voyager'
[06:52] <sheep_> That's a fork of xubuntu (12.04)
[06:52] <Vani> live voyager makese me think star trek...
[06:53] <dr_willis> unofficiaal ubuntu variants are not supported here. check their own channels, or web sites
[06:53] <DarwinSurvivor> shape: no problem
[06:53] <sheep_> Argh, they do not own irc in fact..
[06:54] <dr_willis> 'own'? theres no cost for them to have an irc channel here.
[06:54] <sheep_> But, that's the same software center. So, can I ask you something ?
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: because you asked nicely and because it's so quiet in here right now, I'll try to answer your question. but understand that there's a good chance the answer may be specific to your variant of ubuntu
[07:00] <motoki> abcde
[07:00] <Shani0610> Hello guys, I have apache 2.2 installed and working perfectly but my php5-cgi not working properly, where should I look for errors?
[07:01] <motoki> abc
[07:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Shani0610: if your site isn't working, how do you know apache is?
[07:01] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor Ok, my liveusb is persistent. I tried to install libreoffice but it did not find the package. Then I went to Synaptic and discovered that the only software available were already installed.
[07:02] <shape> Hello, I tried installing the Ati proprietary drivers (post-release) and It said "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: jokey.log Should I paste-bin the log file. I looked in it and can't understand a thing.
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: does it use the "software center" or another tool for installing software?
[07:03] <lukicat> any1 has a tutorial to set up a router with a latest version of debian or ubuntu?
[07:03] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor It uses the software center. Libreoffice is usualy in the sources.
[07:04] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: can you printscreen it, I think you may be on the wrong page
[07:05] <trippy3199us> really odd question.. but i been trying to figure it out on my own and keep hitting dead ends... i have a flash drive with a bad sector.. and i cant get it to load in windows or ubuntu.. i use ubuntu however and i want to try to recover what i can..
[07:06] <llutz_> lukicat: web should be full of it, keywords are "ip-forwarding/-masquerading, dnsmasq"
[07:06] <trippy3199us> anyone have any idea where to look for information or any suggestions for me on recovering the files.. i do know what sector is bad.. and that it must be in the part of the FS that loads when its connected..
[07:06] <Shani0610> Hello guys, I have apache 2.2 installed and working perfectly but my php5-cgi not working properly, where should I look for errors?
[07:07] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: try "photorec" it was originally designed to recover pictures from flashcards, but apparently works fairly well for other files on usb drives as well
[07:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Shani0610: if your site isn't working, how do you know apache is?
[07:07] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-25052012-090508.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-25052012-090525.php
[07:07] <trippy3199us> thanks so much darwinsurvivor
[07:07] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: no problem
[07:08] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor I don't know if you master french, it means : Not found, There is no package named "libreoffice" in your actual sources
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: what happens when you click on one of the libreoffice ones?
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: I'm fluent in french :)
[07:09] <Shani0610> DarwinSurvivor, I am pretty sure cuz I have checked my own templates properly working as desired, now i need php whivh is not working.
[07:09] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor The second screenshot is when I click it.
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Shani0610: have you used apache to display anything else?
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: so when you click on one of the in screenshot #1, it shows you screenshot #2?
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> *them
[07:10] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvir Exactly.
[07:10] <Shani0610> DarwinSurvivor,  can you rephrase? specially else
[07:11] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor The 3rd is my sources, which are all activated.
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: that sounds like an issue specific to your variant, I'm afraid we won't be able to help you with this problem here since they most likely use different repositories
[07:12] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor That's the same repositories as xubuntu 12.04.
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Shani0610: if you go into "/var/log" there should be 2 things called "apache" or "httpd". one will say "errors", that's the one you want
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> sheep_: well, they've obviously changed *something* (or it wouldn't be a variant), so you'll have to use their support channels
[07:13] <Jordan_U> trippy3199us: DarwinSurvivor: Photorec isn't the first tool I would use if you're certain that the problem is a bad sector, it's more for recovering from software errors (overwritten filesystems) than hardware ones. I recommend first using GNU ddrescue (*not* dd_rescue) to create a full disk image, then if you can't mount the partition from the disk image running photorec on the image would be a good idea.
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: Jordan_U has a point, you should make a full image of the drive first. If you know which device it is, use dd to make a copy ex: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/home/my_username/flashdrive_backup.img"
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: replace X and Y with the appropriate values
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: also, how did you find out it has a bad sector?
[07:15] <Jordan_U> trippy3199us: DarwinSurvivor: If you know that there is a bad sector then dd won't be particularly useful. Use GNU ddrescue which is made to handle drives with bad sectors.
[07:16] <Shani0610> DarwinSurvivor, I have php5-cgi installed.
[07:16] <sheep_>  @DarwinSurvivor Yes, but they keep the same operating as xubuntu.
[07:17] <sheep_> @DarwinSurvivor We can UPDATE live voyager to a xubuntu.
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> Shani0610: if you go into "/var/log" there should be 2 things called "apache" or "httpd". one will say "errors", that's the one you want
[07:19] <llutz_> !info libreoffice | sheep_  libreoffice is in main-repo, so check your sources
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> llutz_: he's using a derivative
[07:20] <lukicat> llutz, ty foudn something
[07:20] <llutz_> DarwinSurvivor: thats why i said he should check his sources
[07:20] <legend2440> hello, has anyone here tried VMware-Player-4.0.3-703057.i386.bundle on ubuntu 12.04. it installs fine but when it tries to compile modules during first run I get vmnet errors and it won't run
[07:21] <DarwinSurvivor> !vmware | legend2440 did you follow these instructions?
[07:21] <legend2440> DarwinSurvivor:  thanks I will check it out
[07:22] <prophit> Hey guys - I'm running 12.04 in a VM through VirtualBox. I've started up guacd (part of the guacamole RDP server), and am trying to connect to it via localhost:4822, but my browser never gets a response from the server. Any ideas?
[07:22] <Vani> umm..i have both server and desktop version downloaded, at bootup screen is desktop th 24-generic-pae or the 23-generic (on dev/sda1)
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: is this when booting off the disk?
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: or when booting the computer by itself?
[07:23] <Vani> computer by itself
[07:23] <llutz_> prophit: you need to configure vm-networking as "bridged" to access it
[07:24] <trippy3199us> darwinsurvivor: any idea how to recover files.. if the disk isnt recognized ??
[07:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: ok, so are you trying to install right now, or have you done that already?
[07:24] <llutz_> prophit: you try "localhost:4822" from host-system?
[07:24] <Vani> already did that
[07:24] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: does it show up in /dev?
[07:25] <prophit> llutz_: it's already bridged. guacd doesn't serve the page even when I go to localhost:4822 on the VM
[07:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: so you've installed the desktop version and are being given 2 options when rebooting them machine with the cd/usb removed?
[07:25] <llutz_> prophit: ah ok, then check logs why it doesn't run.
[07:25] <DarwinSurvivor> prophit: when in bridged mode, the VM will get it's own ip from your router. you need to find out what that IP is and connect to THAT
[07:26] <trippy3199us> darwinsurvivor: nope... its compleatly unrecognized.. on every os i have tried... i think its because the part thats corrupted is the part that contains all the info about the drive itself..
[07:26] <llutz_> prophit: on the vm "sudo lsof -i :4822"   does it list your service?
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: how do you know it has a corrupted sector?
[07:26] <Vani> well... more like 7 options, but 2 of those are recovery modes, and 2 are memory tests and 1 says prvious linux versions and yeah i removed the cd. but I installed it along side of the server.... i probably should have installed it over it.
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: is the "pae" one at the top of the list?
[07:27] <Vani> yes
[07:27] <trippy3199us> if i use a terminal to try to load it.. it gives me an error claiming a bad sector..
[07:27] <prophit> llutz_: yes - guacd
[07:27] <karthick87> Ubuntu 12.04 applications menu showing some other language. How do i reset it to default ?
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: basic rule of thumb when booting ubuntu is to pick the top one. if that doens't work, try the next one and so on :)
[07:28] <Vani> ok.
[07:28] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: how did you try to load it if it's not in /dev/?
[07:28] <llutz_> prophit: so its running but not responding. as i said, check logs
[07:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | trippy3199us
[07:28] <Vani> Omg.. i see a purple screen of death...
[07:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: purple is GOOD!
[07:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Vani: that mean's it's booting :)
[07:28] <vladhim> hello there!
[07:28] <Vani> lol, yeah i know, sorry, was joking
[07:29] <vladhim> what's up!
[07:29] <trippy3199us> i just found it in /dev... sorry about that..
[07:29] <karthick87> Ubuntu 12.04 applications menu showing some other language. How do i reset it to default ?
[07:29] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: ok, what happens if you run "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt"? (replace X and Y appropriately)
[07:30] <DarwinSurvivor> karthick87: has it always been that language since you installed, or did it recently change?
[07:30] <prophit> llutz_: I'm not seeing a "messages" file in /var/logs nor any other file that looks like it came from guacd
[07:30] <m90087> hello
[07:31] <m90087> myip?
[07:31] <vladhim> hey, do you know the error, "kernel panic"?
[07:32] <llutz_> prophit: grep -ri guacd /var/log                 or check guacd-config where it logs to
[07:32] <Vani> thanks for the help, i'm gonna get off now, but if i need anymore help i'll be sure to come back
[07:33] <trippy3199us> what should i replace XandY with i  found usb-PNY_Tech_USB_2.0_FD_058110501413481800281-0:0
[07:33] <trippy3199us> in dev
[07:34] <karthick87> DarwinSurvivor: it is changed recently.
[07:34] <Jak2000> hi all
[07:34] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: that's a strange name for it. is this a standard usb drive?
[07:35] <DarwinSurvivor> karthick87: did you install any special language packs or anything?
[07:36] <Jak2000> how to know wich ftp server is installed in my ubuntu server?
[07:38] <llutz_> Jak2000: none by default afaik, so if there is one, you installed it and you should know it
[07:40] <Jak2000> llutz not know
[07:40] <Jak2000> but i know the seerver have a ftp server installed
[07:40] <llutz_> Jak2000: "sudo lsof -i :21"
[07:40] <no-name-> what's the keyboard shortcut to open terminal?
[07:40] <DarwinSurvivor> no-name-: Ctrl+Alt+T
[07:41] <no-name-> cheers
[07:41] <ekv> right
[07:41] <alFReD-NSH> I'm gonna reinstall my ubuntu, need to backup my dotfiles, never done this before. Seen people syncing it to their github account. Any helper script? recommendation?
[07:41] <ekv> there is backup in it already
[07:41] <ekv> alFReD-NSH;
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: if you don't know how to use git, don't bother trying to use github.
[07:42] <annex> asl
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: just backup your home folder onto an external drive and reinstall
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> !ot | annex
[07:43] <alFReD-NSH>  DarwinSurvivor: I do know how to use, well at least the basic stuff for maintaining a repo...  Just wondering if there's a helper script for something like this or not...
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: people that backup their config files onto github probably just create a git repo in their home folder and add the appropriate files to it.
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: for a reinstall, i'd just copy them to an external drive, much simpler that way
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: also, you may not want some of those files on a public website, some may contain passwords or personal information (ex: .mozilla holds all online passwords and browser history)
[07:45] <alFReD-NSH>  DarwinSurvivor: Well I've been syncing them to my desktop mac... with the simple copy paste... I recall it tiring. As a programmer I feel bad about that. Also don't worry about that, I know which ones contain passwords. I don't show them to public...
[07:46] <ServerCrash> does Unity uses compiz ?
[07:46] <ServerCrash> by deafual
[07:46] <alFReD-NSH> W8! does mozilla hold all the passwords in flat files?
[07:46] <karthick87> DarwinSurvivor: No i havenot installed any language packs
[07:46] <Jak2000> llutz, i use ssh for ocnnect via FTP?
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: no, ssh and ftp are 100% different protocols, NOT compatible
[07:47] <llutz_> Jak2000: no, an ftp-client if your really need to use ftp. think about using sftp, based on ssh
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: they aren't a flat-file, but they ARE easily extracted (you really only need to load the profile and firefox does the extraction for you)
[07:48] <ServerCrash> is Compiz enabled by default on Ubuntu ?
[07:48] <ServerCrash> is Compiz enabled by default in Ubuntu 11.xx series?
[07:48] <alFReD-NSH> ServerCrash: should be I assume
[07:49] <Jak2000> how to restart sshd service?
[07:49] <alFReD-NSH>  DarwinSurvivor: true that, never thought about extracting them like that..
[07:49] <llutz_> Jak2000: sudo service ssh restart
[07:49] <Jak2000> llutz how to ocnnect to FTP via sshd?
[07:49] <llutz_> Jak2000: you can't
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> karthick87: sorry, I don't know enough about languages to help you at this point (thought it might be something simple). perhaps someone else can help you
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> karthick87: also, take a look at http://help.ubuntu.com for some possible answers
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: what is it you are *actually* trying to do?
[07:50] <llutz_> Jak2000: you want to use the web to read about different services and their basics before you run any "servers"
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: are you tring to make files available to others, transfer files across computers, download software off a website, backup your computer, etc?
[07:52] <Jak2000> yes
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: *which* one?
[07:54] <m90087> ubuntu 12.04 is good now
[07:54] <alFReD-NSH> Anyone got any irc client better than pidgin?
[07:54] <m90087> xchat
[07:55] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: xchat
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> ServerCrash, unity runs in compiz.
[07:56] <dr_willis> most irc cluents are better then pidgin
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> alFReD-NSH, I have never used pidgin, but xchat seems to work for me.
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> there is iirc as well a cli
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> wilee-nilee: there are quite a few cli irc clients (I use irssi myself)
[07:57] <alFReD-NSH> saw the screenshots of xchat, not really shiney...
[07:58] <Uncle_> hi guys
[07:58] <Uncle_> what is the difference between pkill and killall?
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> Darwin4Ever, I am not surprised at the abundance. ;)
[07:58] <alFReD-NSH> got any interesting feature that can make it difference from other clients?
[07:59] <bhull05> Hello, I was wondering if anyone was available to help me with a problem I'm having while trying to reformat a laptop into Ubuntu.
[07:59] <llutz_> Uncle_: not much difference on linux-systems, basically they do the same job.
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: if you want shinny, irc probably isn't for you :)
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> !ask | bhull05
[07:59] <Uncle_> llutz ok, thx :)
[08:00] <bhull05> !patience
[08:00] <llutz_> Uncle_: try it on solaris and you'll see differences ;)
[08:00] <NewWorld> Uncle_:  I was told to get used to pkill, because on some OSs (I think solaris) killall kills ALL processes
[08:00] <Uncle_> well, i am working on ubuntu, so i do not have a chance :)
[08:00] <Uncle_> good to know
[08:01] <alFReD-NSH>  DarwinSurvivor: I can't ask the whole community to go a better system, there's not much wrong with irc , but it seems that a good client can't be found
[08:01] <samuel> i'm using xchat, that seems pretty good to me, there are also some pretty good web based irc clients too
[08:01] <llutz_> alFReD-NSH: start with defining "good client"
[08:01] <DarwinSurvivor> alFReD-NSH: you are going to need to define "good". there is no "best" program for *anything*, it all depends on what you want
[08:01] <dr_willis> i find xchat and weechat to be very good clients
[08:02] <llutz_> alFReD-NSH: but pls use #ubuntu-offtopic for it
[08:02] <samuel> on linux mint, which is what i'm on right at this second xchat plonks you directly into their help channel - its just not as lively as this one :D hence i'm here
[08:02] <amh345> im trying to get my ssh session to expire when inactive i've put ClientAliveInterval 100 in etc/ssh/sshd_conf but it's done nothing.   am i missing something?
[08:02] <llutz_> dr_willis: konversation + irssi :)
[08:02] <bhull05> Hello, I was wondering if anyone was available to help me with a problem I'm having while trying to reformat a laptop into Ubuntu using a USB Drive. I'm receiving erros: udevd[140] and udevd[159] repeatedly.
[08:03] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: at which point are you receiving those errors?
[08:03] <alFReD-NSH> well you guys are right...
[08:04] <bhull05> Darwinsurvivor: I select boot preference to my Sandisk and then the installation menu comes up. I select 'install on harddrive disk' and then a wall of text scrolls by. And these two lines just keep repeating over and over.
[08:04] <trippy3199us> darwinSurvivor: im sorry... my laptop tripped out on me.. im back tho... last i saw was trying something with mounting what i found in /dev/
[08:04] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: how did you make the usb disk? (unetbootin, dd, etc)
[08:05] <trippy3199us> darwinSurvivor: sorry bout that.. damn computer.. horrible timing..
[08:05] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199us: ok, so use "sudo mount /dev/whatever-your-device-shows-up-as /mnt" and tell me if you get an error
[08:07] <Jak2000> llutz done sith Filezilla i can connect with SFTP (ssh deamon) thx
[08:07] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I used the instruction manual on their website. And the program that they suggested. I'm trying to find the link now.
[08:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: what was it you were trying to do?
[08:07] <samuel> i wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems
[08:07] <Jak2000> mount a FTP server
[08:07] <Jak2000> done
[08:07] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: please do post it, it will help a lot
[08:08] <samuel> every time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel
[08:08] <samuel> how can i get rid of that!
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: if you used ssh and sftp, you did NOT use ftp, they are not the same
[08:08] <samuel> i want it to read something else, like just "desktop"
[08:08] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/...ick-on-windows
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: your link got "shortended", can you try that again?
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: there are a few tutorials that match that pattern and some of them are for older versions of ubuntu
[08:09] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:10] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: ok, and what is listed on the first menu you see when booting off of it? (what is the first question)
[08:11] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: It's called 'Installer boot menu
[08:12] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: and what are all hte options?
[08:12] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivior: The options are "Run ubuntu from this usb" || "Install ubuntu on a hard disl" || "Test Memory" || "Boot from first hard disk" || "Advanced Options" || "Help"
[08:12] <trippy3199usmoun> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[08:12] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I have selected "Install ubuntu on a hard disl"
[08:13] <trippy3199usmoun> you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program
[08:13] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: And after about 6 seconds of scrolling texts, those errors just repeat over and over.
[08:13] <trippy3199usmoun> try dmesg  |  tail or so
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: use "run ubuntu from this usb"
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: is that the output you got?
[08:14] <trippy3199usmoun> ill paste exactly .. one sec
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: use "run", then once you get to the desktop, use the "install" icon on the desktop to do the installation
[08:16] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: Now it ends in a bug I've encountered before. I made a post on the ubuntu forum which describes the stopping point in detail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986548
[08:16] <trippy3199usmoun> http://pastebin.com/X0crkahV
[08:17] <MacroMan> I've got an annoying problem that I'm not sure anyone can help me with. About once a week, my computer freezes (but the mouse still moves). My comp is on for 9 hrs a day. There is nothing in syslog or any other log that I've looked at. No errors. Just completey unresponsive.
[08:17] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: did you get that same error when trying "run" instead of "install"?
[08:17] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: does it get hot, as in a fan is not working anymore?
[08:17] <MacroMan> There also doesn't seem to be a pattern. I'm usually using a different program when it happens.
[08:17] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: could be cpu fan, psu fan, gfx fan, case fan...
[08:17] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: do you remember what it was formatted to? (fat32, ntfs, ext3, etc?)
[08:18] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: No, it's a relatively new machine, only 3 months old
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: new or not, i've seen broken fans in newer machines
[08:18] <MacroMan> Wouldn't that trip a temp alarm?
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: or not properly connected cables
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: usually but not always
[08:18] <MacroMan> Could be. So your thinking more of a hardware problem?
[08:18] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: Now, the 'Ubuntu' screen came up with the 4 dots underneath, but then the screen froze and it's a giant screen of black and white random bars....
[08:18] <trippy3199usmoun> its an xbox formatted disk.. so probably fat32
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: i would consider it, yes
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: did you try the nomodeset idea that the responder mentioned in the forum post you linked to?
[08:20] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: Thanks, I'll open my case and see what's going on. Once thing that still bothers me though. Why does the mouse continue to move? It's not like the whole thing is frozen, just my desktop enviroment
[08:20] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/.... /mnt/"
[08:20] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: graphics card driver problem maybe? nvidia or not nvidia card/drier?
[08:21] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: i guess that's 1204?
[08:22] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I press 'F6' but it doesnt do anything, the screen just flickers. But it opens no promps or ability to 'tick nomodeset'
[08:22] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-id/usb-PNY_Tech_USB_2.0_FD_05801105010413481800281-0:0 does not exist
[08:22] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: you need to hit it early in the boot, just keep hitting it over and over again
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: check the /dev/ directory and make sure it is still there
[08:23] <Rav3n> I've previously been using ubuntu-desktop, and my pcmia wifi and wired cards were working fine. I recently reinstalled w/ ubuntu-server (11.04, now upgraded to 12.04) and my pcmia cards are not working. When i was using the gui system, I was able to install restricted drivers. Is there any way to install those restricted drivers from command line? I'm currently able to get internet by booting off a livecd and binding and chrooting to my hard drive.
[08:23] <openvoid_> i was thinking shift pressed brings boot menu in grub2
[08:24] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: still there.. everyother file has 0 bytes.. but that file has 9 bytes.. for some reason
[08:24] <DarwinSurvivor> openvoid_: good point
[08:24] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: hold shift while booting until you see a menu asking which kernel to boot, then hit F6
[08:25] <openvoid_> Rav3n, apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or something same
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: the bite size means very little, they are block devices
[08:25] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I got the purple screen with the white 'Ubuntu' letters now and the 5 dots underneath are solid orange for about 2 minutes, nothing moving. Then my screen turns into a serious of black and white bars and squares that appear to be random.
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: to rule out a typo, when you get to "/dev/usb-" hit tab and it should auto-complete the name
[08:27] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: the menu will be before the purple screen. if you see the purple screen, you missed the menu
[08:28] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I've tried holding Shift through the whole boot process but no such menu is generated.
[08:29] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: same result
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: ok, try "sudo dd if=/dev/the-device-here of=/home/your-username-here/flashbackup.img"
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: that should make a backup of the device, you may be able to mount *that* instead
[08:33] <amh345> how is it possible that im still logged into my server via terminal even after i execute sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[08:33] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: Yes, nVidia. I had trouble with the offical driver so I never installed it. Could that be it?
[08:34] <samuel> i wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems
[08:34] <samuel> every time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel
[08:34] <samuel> i want it to read something else, like just "desktop"
[08:34] <DarwinSurvivor> amh345: yes, i've seen that happen before. don't rely on it though!
[08:34] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: no such file or directory?
[08:34] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: Just had the cover off. All fans seem to be running fine and it doesn't seem too hot in there.
[08:34] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: weird
[08:34] <amh345> DarwinSurvivor: what do you mean dont rely on it?
[08:34] <amh345> hah
[08:35] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: ill double check everything real quick....
[08:35] <ferni> amh345: it just stops the server listening and accepting new connections
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: and you're sure this is a standard off-the-shelf usb flash drive?
[08:35] <CptK00k> Hi
[08:35] <CptK00k> how DO I ZOOM IN WITH BLUEFISH
[08:35] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: does it matter that its in /dev/disk/by-id/
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: not some weird memory card that just happens to have a usb port?
[08:35] <CptK00k> >:(
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> !caps
[08:35] <trippy3199usmoun> its a pny 8gb.. pretty common..
[08:35] <amh345> ferni: oh. youre right. heh
[08:36] <CptK00k> oke, how do i zoom in with bluefish
[08:36] <trippy3199usmoun> its about a year old.. and its really common.. its still on shelves...
[08:36] <CptK00k> ?????????????
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: ok, just wanted to make sure it wasn't some proprietary xbox thing
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | CptK00k
[08:37] <amh345> im trying to set my server to timeout the ssh session if it's idle for x amount of seconds.   i've put this in sshd_config ClientAliveInterval 30  but it doesnt seem to do anything at all.  any ideas?
[08:37] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I keep getting the same issue of the frozen black and white screen. I can't figure out how to get the 'nomodeset' option up though. If you would like to send me a private message and wait until you have others' issues solved, that's fine with me.
[08:37] <CptK00k> So nobody knows how to zoom in with a web editor.
[08:37] <CptK00k> wow
[08:37] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: nope, tho they would do that to us wouldnt they.. i swear they put timers in everything so you have to replace them.. lol..
[08:38] <CptK00k> how tragic
[08:38] <samuel> CptK00k, try with the built in accessability settings if there is no feature within the program
[08:38] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: I've never had to use nomodeset myself, I just know that it has helped quite a few users run 12.04.
[08:39] <CptK00k> :P
[08:39] <CptK00k> you are kidding me right
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: I probably won't be able to help you more than that forum post did, perhaps somebody else can assist you further
[08:39] <CptK00k> ?
[08:39] <bhull05> Darwin
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: you are not the only person in here getting help. please be patient and allow others that were here before you to be helped
[08:39] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: i think it might just write to it to much... every level of everygame.. so every ten minutes its rewriting over what was just saved.. the flash memory isnt like the old school memory in NINTENDO games.. it just isnt built right anymore...
[08:39] <bhull05> Thanks anyway, take it easy.
[08:39] <nRy_> Hi, does anyone know the AMI id for an Ubuntu 12.4 LTS image on Amazon Web Services?
[08:40] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: in the mean time, try holding Ctrl and using the scrollwheel on your mouse, that's a fairly universal scroll shortcut for browsers
[08:40] <amh345> anyone?  ssh ClientAliveInterval does nothing.   how to make it timeout?
[08:40] <samuel> or look under the view menu
[08:40] <CptK00k> i dont need help i need some information about how to zoom in with this shit, yes i tried holding down ctrl mousewheel but it zooooomsss out nomatter what direction
[08:41] <samuel> have you tried ctrl and +
[08:41] <CptK00k> YES i did
[08:41] <chu> CptK00k: Please be careful with the language. Remember to keep it family friendly.
[08:41] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: try scrolling the other way...?
[08:41] <samuel> are you using the latest version of bluefish on the ubuntu repositories?
[08:42] <CptK00k> doesnt work
[08:42] <CptK00k> :RAGE:
[08:42] <samuel> are you using the latest version of bluefish on the ubuntu repositories?
[08:42] <CptK00k> yes
[08:43] <samuel> it might be worth looking for a ppa with the developers latest version, it might be a bug that has already been fixed but hasnt been updated to ubuntu's repositories, are you using 12.04?
[08:43] <CptK00k> argh yes
[08:44] <samuel> check what version you are using, then go to google and type "bluefish ppa"
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> !ppa | sam	
[08:44] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: any other suggestions.. or am i basically out of options besides the trash can.. just hate to lose over a year of hard work on my favorite games..
[08:44] <samuel> if the version there is lower than your current version, then update
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: does the xbox not keep a local copy of the game saves...?
[08:44] <CptK00k> there is no PPA for bluefish
[08:44] <samuel> if the version is the same, then file a bug report
[08:44] <CptK00k> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[08:45] <samuel> there is a ppa for bluefish because my colleague is using it to get the latest version even though he is using oneric
[08:45] <trippy3199usmoun> they need to make a cloud for xbox saves.. you have to pay for online play anyway.. whats it gunna hurt to include a cloud for save games.. damn microsoft.. exactly why i use ubuntu in the first place..
[08:45] <CptK00k> well enlighten me
[08:46] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: i guess it could.. but then you can only play on one xbox period.. or everything you do gets lost..
[08:46] <DarwinSurvivor> samuel: PPA's are not officially supported, they are not supposed to be recommended in the #ubuntu channel
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: if there is a local save copy, you could put a new usb drive in and copy to that.
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: I don't have an xbox, but on my PS3 all games are saved locally, then you can manually copy them on/off a usb stick for portability
[08:47] <samuel> well in that case i recommend going here https://launchpad.net/bluefish and filing a bug
[08:47] <trippy3199usmoun> there isnt... its all on the usb unfortunatly.. and ps3 is way better... this would be one example of many..
[08:48] <samuel> going direct to the devs of the project will get you a better answer
[08:48] <CptK00k> so you are basicly saying to me that i need to download from a grimey ass PPA instead of the ubuntu directories, in which it clearly is added but doesnt seem to have the most simplistic function of zooming in on some code?
[08:48] <trippy3199usmoun> i have both.. but i have never ever had an issue with my ps3.. and xbox i have had tons of problems with..
[08:48] <CptK00k> FML
[08:48] <samuel> i didnt write it, no point raging at me
[08:48] <samuel> i'm not a ubuntu developer
[08:48] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: samuel is right. bluefish is a fairly obscure browser on ubuntu, so you probably wont' find many people in here that have used it
[08:49] <samuel> i'm trying very hard not to advise you to get a refund
[08:49] <trippy3199usmoun> well except.. my ps3 will not use vga anymore.. after a while it starts to bleed all the colors everywhere.. so i have to use hdmi now..
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: their developers should be able to assist you though
[08:49] <CptK00k> Care to give me a alternative?
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: ps3's don't have vga as far as I know (rca, hdmi and that 4-plug one dvd players use)
[08:50] <trippy3199usmoun> i mean rca.. im sorry
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: there are TONS of browsers. firefox is the default. what features are you looking for (other than zooming)
[08:50] <trippy3199usmoun> red white yellow..
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: yep, rca
[08:50] <CptK00k> ITS NOT A BROWSER
[08:51] <CptK00k> ITS A WEB EDITOR
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: there may be more you can do to recover the drive, but at this point I can't think of anything
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: OH, that bluefish!
[08:51] <morsnowski> CptK00k, stop shouting!
[08:51] <CptK00k> Shouting? its a chatroom dude , give me a break
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: hmm, for zooming in there, you'll probably have to go through the menus or something
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> !caps | CptK00k
[08:52] <CptK00k> Uppercasing is not shouting alright
[08:52] <CptK00k> shouting involves sound waves going through your eardrums
[08:52] <cirustus> ok guys im new to ubuntu but have a few questions to ask
[08:52] <chu> Calm down CptK00k. You understand what they're saying, don't be so pedantic. Remember, people are here to *help* you.
[08:52] <chu> cirustus: Sure, ask away!
[08:53] <cirustus> i have ubuntu 12.04
[08:53] <cirustus> now im trying to connect to my windows share but cant access them
[08:53] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: thank you tho.. you gave me a few ideas ill tinker around with.. i didnt realize it was showing up in my /dev/ so ill see if i can work with that and the bad sector i error i found.. maybe ill be able to get it eventually.. wish my usb had a light on it so i could tell if im even really reading it.. my system knows its pny and its usb 2.0.. so there is hope..
[08:53] <CptK00k> yeah but iam getting pretty p*ssed off, ive spent my whole day fixing stuff instead of making webpages thus money
[08:53] <chu> CptK00k: Yep, understandble.
[08:53] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: one last thing
[08:54] <CptK00k> i can understand that for amateurs it sounds fun to tinker with this and that
[08:54] <cirustus> now ive read the forums and they are saying samba had a re-write done
[08:54] <CptK00k> but time == money
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: most usb drives use a separate controller chip to identify it as a usb drive. you can completely mangle the fs itself (write random garbage to every sector) and you should still be able to access it for reformatting.
[08:54] <nvucinic> hi, is there some project in ubuntu to install  printer on multiple computers at once?  i know about cluster ssh and similar stuff, but gui would be prefered....
[08:54] <cirustus> i have a older version of it but its a tar.gz file how do i install it
[08:54] <samuel> CptKook, then i suggest you get over to the launchpad page that i linked you to, submit a bug, then go back to the software center and look for annother ide to make your website
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: this makes me think it may not be a bad-sector problem but possibly a hardware problem (loose plug, over-voltaged, etc)
[08:55] <chu> CptK00k: Well, now you're getting offtopic. Come to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat.
[08:55] <onosendi> What's ubuntu's dev channel?
[08:55] <theadmin> onosendi: #ubuntu-devel
[08:55] <CptK00k> Offtopic? what is there offtopic about? iam giving you reasons for my FUCKING RAGE SO YOU DONT GET PISSED OFF AND FKNG KICK ME
[08:55] <onosendi> thanks
[08:55] <samuel> or use ubuntu's accessability feature to zoom in and get on with it instead of wasting precious time complaining to people that 1 you are not paying and 2 have nothing to do with the software you are asking about
[08:56] <chu> CptK00k: Well, now you're swearing. I asked you to keep it family-friendly.
[08:56] <theadmin> cirustus: To mount a Windows share, use: mount -t cifs //your_server/your_share some_directory -o user=your_share_username,password=your_share_password
[08:56] <CptK00k> just saying
[08:56] <dr_willis> wife likes that compiz zoom feature now that i showed it to her.. must be her fav feature
[08:56] <CptK00k> I am not always a douche but today i am
[08:56] <cirustus> my share dont have usernames or passwords attached to them
[08:57] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurviver: is it worth sending in for $150 is what it may come down to.. they have the equipment to test that..  there otta be some software i can find thru research that will allow my computer to do some of those tests for me tho..
[08:57] <theadmin> cirustus: Then make it simplier: mount -t cifs //your_server/your_share some_directory
[08:57] <cirustus> and thats using terminal correct
[08:57] <theadmin> cirustus: Yeah, I have no idea how to do it in the GUI (haven't used Unity)
[08:57] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: that $150 (microsoft support?) will be for fixing the xbox (which is probably 100% functional), they probably won't even try to recover the usb drvie
[08:58] <cirustus> ok does that use samba or the smb?
[08:58] <theadmin> cirustus: Err, "samba" and "smb" are the same thing ("smb" is short for "samba")
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> cirustus: smb *is* samba (short name for it)
[08:58] <cirustus> ok lol
[08:58] <dr_willis> the nautilus file manager has samba share support .  smb://serverip_or_name/sharename cirustus
[08:59] <chu> CptK00k: As I said, I understand the frustration. But please, if you want help, be patient and polite. People will be *far* more likely to help you.
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: you might have more luck on some xbox channels or forums, there are probably others that have had this happen that might have suggestions for getting your games back
[08:59] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurviver: i found a USB Flash Drive recovery company that charges 146 for recovery of usb drives.. but im not really wanting to spend 146 for crap i already spend hundreds on in the first place..
[08:59] <cirustus> the only other thing is all my shares are on a nas thats given an ip by dhcp so if a reboot the modem i get new ip address will i have to re mount it everytime i reboot?
[08:59] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: thats accually great advice.. your probably right
[09:00] <DarwinSurvivor> cirustus: set up a static ip on the nas, or get the router to use static-dhcp. NEVER try to set up a nas on dhcp alone!
[09:00] <lpapp> Hi! Is there a script that is run on boot so that I can make sure certain commands, I wish, are executed during the boot ? We have something like /etc/rc.local on Archlinux
[09:00] <morsnowski> cirustus, can't you give it a dedicated IP?
[09:00] <dr_willis> cirustus:  samba is  supposed to handele the names of the server notip. but  it can have issues. I set my router to give static ip addresses to my servers - makes it easier
[09:00] <samuel> trippy3199usmoun, try photorec for recovering data from damaged flash drives
[09:00] <nvucinic> hi, is there some project in ubuntu to install  printer on multiple computers at once?  i know about cluster ssh and similar stuff, but gui would be prefered....
[09:00] <onosendi>  I'm using mate with marco as my WM. How would I go about getting the geometry of a window when it is closed? It's x, y, w, h, etc?
[09:00] <chu> lpapp: have you looked for /etc/rc.local on Ubuntu?
[09:00] <theadmin> lpapp: /etc/rc.local :P It's the good old init thing, it exists almost everywhere
[09:00] <samuel> its great for ripping files off any file system and copying them to a target directory
[09:00] <trippy3199usmoun> samuel: i tried.. but its not recognizing my drive
[09:00] <dr_willis> nvucinic:  its possible the cups web interface/tools may do it. but ive never noticed such a tool/gui
[09:00] <cirustus> well my problem is that its not my nas but my house mates and he wont give it a static ip
[09:01] <lpapp> theadmin: heh true
[09:01] <lpapp> I am dumb and blind ;)
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> cirustus: then I offically recommend that you smack him upside the head and tell him to :D
[09:01] <nvucinic> dr_willis: is there something like "local synaptic" where you can install apps on multiple servers ?
[09:01] <samuel> cant you do it by the host name? cirustus
[09:01] <lpapp> good to know it is not something distribution specific
[09:01] <dr_willis> findsmb and smbtree can scan thenetwork and show the name/ips of servers. or nmap the network
[09:02] <trippy3199usmoun> samuel: it just shows my main hard drive.. and any other usb drives i plug in.. but not the one thats being a terd.. i noticed if i plug it into windows 7.. it just loads unloads loads unloads over and over again...
[09:02] <cirustus> i do that anyway be he refuses and if i do it for him i wont be allowed to use the net anymore ect...
[09:02] <dr_willis> nvucinic:  i set up a apt-cach-ng server, then just use ssh/scripts
[09:02] <cirustus> i can try
[09:02] <nvucinic> dr_willis: yeah, i have similar idea :D
[09:02] <theadmin> lpapp: /etc/rc.conf doesn't exist in Ubuntu though :P
[09:02] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: just had a last thought. try using some rubbing alcohol (99+%) and a q-tip to clean the contacts!
[09:02] <vivien_m> Hello. xrandr (under Ubuntu 12.04) does not see my external monitor (plugged to VGA) while nvidia-settings sees it. How can I solve that?
[09:03] <chu> theadmin: /etc/rc.local though?
[09:03] <CptK00k> xorg.conf
[09:03] <DarwinSurvivor> theadmin: /etc/rc.local not rc.conf
[09:03] <CptK00k> @vivien_m
[09:03] <chu> CptK00k: Thank you :)
[09:03] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I would not like to write the configuration for that particular monitor in xorg.conf
[09:03] <CptK00k> Then Good Luck!
[09:03] <CptK00k> Have a nice day
[09:04] <theadmin> DarwinSurvivor, chu: Please read the conversation more carefully -- He's migrating (or something) from Arch and looks for an alternative to /etc/rc.local (which is still there on Ubuntu, as I did say), however one must be aware that the almighty rc.conf is not there on Ubuntu.
[09:04] <cirustus> no it wont let me use the hostname :(
[09:04] <dr_willis> rc.totallyrocksthehouse  ;)
[09:05] <dr_willis> cirustus:  nmap scan the network, or use findsmb or smbtree to get its ip#
[09:05] <vivien_m> CptK00k: In a previous installation, I had xrandr detecting everything without any action. Is it possible to write a generic xorg.conf so that xrandr detects any external monitor?
[09:05] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: will do that right now.. another good idea... thank you..
[09:05] <CptK00k> Do you get a whitescreen or just nothing
[09:05] <CptK00k> blackness.....
[09:05] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Nothing. xrandr does not list the external monitor at all.
[09:05] <lpapp> theadmin: rc.local does not quite work
[09:05] <DarwinSurvivor> theadmin: I know, i actually use arch myself.
[09:06] <dr_willis> there is some ubuntu service  i recall thats supposed to help in the finding/maping of servers to their ip for samba
[09:06] <lpapp> theadmin: perhaps because the command is relevant to X ?
[09:06] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I tried in arandr which sees nothing either
[09:06] <lpapp> theadmin: xsetwacom set 12 area 323 242 3815 3663 -> it is for calibrating the touchscreen of the toughbook.
[09:06] <dr_willis> lpapp:  rc.local cant do X stuff. ;)
[09:06] <theadmin> lpapp: Uh, yeah, if you want to use X stuff you need to run it from inside X -- try the "Startup Applications" thing
[09:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !init | lpapp is this what you are looking for?
[09:06] <lpapp> dr_willis: exactly. This is why I asked now I remember
[09:06] <lpapp> I tried back then and did not work
[09:06] <lpapp> I just forgot that situation unfortunately.
[09:06] <CptK00k> Does Xrander load?
[09:07] <alFReD-NSH> Anyone got any tool similar to unetbootin for ubuntu?
[09:07] <lpapp> so prolly an .xsessionrc might work way better
[09:07] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: unetbootin has a Linux version and is actually in the Ubuntu repos.
[09:07] <alFReD-NSH> Wanna put the ubuntu 12.04 iso on usb drive
[09:07] <lpapp> theadmin: start application sounds scary
[09:07] <dr_willis> .xsession would be a totsally custome X setup - it does not for example run your gnoime desktop AnD the .xsession
[09:08] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I do not know what Xrander is. A kernel module? It is not in my kernel module list, apparently.
[09:08] <theadmin> lpapp: Meh I dunno then. ~/.profile ?
[09:08] <lusers> xinitrc / xsession ?
[09:08] <lpapp> dr_willis: so what is the X way DE agnostically ?
[09:08] <alFReD-NSH> theadmin: I tried it and my usb drive is already connected, but it doesn't show it there
[09:08] <dr_willis> lpapp:  put a script in the .config/autostart dir
[09:08] <lpapp> .xinitrc I used earlier
[09:08] <lizzin> i just installed ubuntu(12.04) for the first time. how do i tell it to start up in console mode instead of presenting the X login screen?
[09:08] <lpapp> dr_willis: that looks DE specific
[09:08] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: Meh fudge it -- sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu-12.04.iso of=/dev/sdz
[09:08] <dr_willis> lpapp:  theres tye system wide x configs/scripts that run befor the DE begins for all users
[09:08] <lpapp> I need an X driven solution so that it is not gonna break with any DEs
[09:08] <CptK00k> How did you install Nvidia drivers?
[09:08] <theadmin> !text | lizzin
[09:09] <lpapp> ok ok
[09:09] <CptK00k> through software manager?
[09:09] <dr_willis> lpapp:  most all the des use the .config/autorun  what de are you using
[09:09] <cirustus> smbtree shows me the name but when i try to use the name to connect it says it cant
[09:09] <CptK00k> vivian?
[09:09] <lpapp> dr_willis: is it standardized ?
[09:09] <vivien_m> CptK00k: aptitude install nvidia-current
[09:09] <dr_willis> cirustus:  so use its ip.
[09:09] <CptK00k> yh dont do that
[09:09] <cirustus> i know the ip address for it and thats the only way i can connect to it
[09:09] <alFReD-NSH> theadmin: /dev/sdz is the usb drive path?
[09:09] <CptK00k> you need to reinstall
[09:09] <dr_willis> lpapp:  for kde/gnome/lubuntu/xfce/ it is
[09:09] <CptK00k> go download the drivers from nvidia
[09:09] <lpapp> dr_willis: IOW, what is wrong with ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession ?
[09:09] <lpapp> dr_willis: those look more standard options.
[09:09] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: Yesh, but note it's "sdz", not "sdz1" or some such (drive, not partition!)
[09:09] <CptK00k> save them to Downloads
[09:09] <vivien_m> CptK00k: You suggest to install from NVidia sources?
[09:09] <CptK00k> rename them to something like nvidia.run
[09:09] <dr_willis> lpapp:  those get ran INSTEAD of the session you select at  the login screen ,
[09:10] <CptK00k> do CTRL+ALT F2
[09:10] <lizzin> theadmin: thanks
[09:10] <CptK00k> Cd to Downloads
[09:10] <alFReD-NSH> theadmin: actually on mine is /dev/sdb1
[09:10] <dr_willis> lpapp:  the login screen most likely has a 'custom' iutem that runs those..
[09:10] <cirustus> but thats going to the home folder and typing in the address bar
[09:10] <vivien_m> CptK00k: The Ubuntu nvidia package is not reliable?
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: pardon ?
[09:10] <CptK00k> Sh nvidia.run
[09:10] <CptK00k> ohyeah do sudo service lightdm stop first
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: aren't they run for any login session ?
[09:10] <lpapp> or even without that ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> lpapp:  you go to login/lightdm, select unity. .xsession is ignored..
[09:10] <bobweaver> CptK00k,  you forgot to tell hom to stop X
[09:10] <CptK00k> "sudo service ligthdm stop"
[09:10] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: Make that /dev/sdb then
[09:10] <lizzin> theadmin: where is the default location for the X11 config file? i cant seem to find it in /etc/X11
[09:10] <dr_willis> lpapp:  NO they are not. :)
[09:10] <bobweaver> nm
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: problem is that with autostart, it is not gonna work for the logic screen
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: cannot use touch on the login screen etc either
[09:11] <theadmin> lizzin: It's /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but it does not even exist by default, X autoconfigures most of the time. If you need, you can create one with the sections you need)
[09:11] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I have no lightdm, BTW. I installed from mini.iso
[09:11] <dr_willis> lpapp:  what logic screen? if you want it to run for all users every time on all  possible X setups. you use the  /etc/X init scripts
[09:11] <CptK00k> You cant install nvidia with X server enabled
[09:11] <dr_willis> lpapp:  sounds like you have to go the /etc/ way.
[09:11] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Ok.
[09:11] <lpapp> dr_willis: ok, let me reword: I would like to get touch work as soon as X up
[09:11] <CptK00k> you have ubuntu right? 12.04 LTS?
[09:11] <lpapp> dr_willis: X is definitely up for the login screen already.
[09:11] <CptK00k> then you probably have lightdm
[09:11] <vivien_m> CptK00k: But why is the Ubuntu package not recommended?
[09:12] <dr_willis> lpapp:  ccheck the /etc/ X init stuff then, ;) only way i know of
[09:12] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Yes, 12.04 LTS
[09:12] <lpapp> dr_willis: which file in there ?
[09:12] <ASKidwai> Hello
[09:12] <ASKidwai> The installation could have failed because of an error in the corresponding software package or it was cancelled in an unfriendly way. You have to repair this before you can install or remove any further software.
[09:12] <dr_willis> lpapp:  no idea. id have to explore it. I  bet askubuntu.com has some guides on it
[09:12] <ASKidwai> I get this error, what do I do?
[09:12] <lpapp> perhaps xorg.conf I guess
[09:12] <ASKidwai> Ubuntu 10.04
[09:12] <dr_willis> lpapp:  no.. not xorg.conf that does not run commands
[09:12] <bobweaver> ASKidwai,  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:12] <lpapp> but is really no script running for the X up ? :o
[09:12] <CptK00k> Follow this guide: http://www.moonlitdog.com/nvidia_ubuntu
[09:12] <cirustus> is there a way i can have the ip address auto mounted when i loggin
[09:13] <vivien_m> CptK00k: No, I started from a bare install and them installed the needed packages. I have no display manager.
[09:13] <CptK00k> Vivian
[09:13] <lpapp> dr_willis: sure... but that can be configured how to launch X ...
[09:13] <dr_willis> lpapp:  theres several X init scripts in /etc/ somewhere.
[09:13] <lpapp> dr_willis: let me know one
[09:13] <dr_willis> lpapp:  xorg.conf defines the server layout and other settings. Its possible theres some settings in there that may make it so you dont need those commands
[09:13] <lpapp> dr_willis: yes, there is
[09:13] <dr_willis> lpapp:  im not on a ubuntu box. im on my phone at work. so  i cant.
[09:13] <lpapp> I have checked out the vendor's page
[09:13] <lpapp> but a command run would mean less maintenance
[09:14] <lpapp> even if not the most precise solution for sure.
[09:14] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Ok, but why installing the nvidia drivers again? Is the Ubuntu package known to be buggy?
[09:14] <ASKidwai> bobweaver: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  <--- Says the terminal
[09:14] <CptK00k> just do it!
[09:14] <CptK00k> like nike would say
[09:15] <dr_willis> how retro 1970's
[09:15] <vivien_m> CptK00k: You must have a reason ;-)
[09:15] <CptK00k> No time to explain, Get on that horse, The world is at risk
[09:15] <dr_willis> lpapp:  itss possible theres some lightdm configs that could run the command also. ive not explored lightdm much
[09:16] <dr_willis> lpapp:  but the console and startx would bypass that.
[09:16] <CptK00k> I had exactly one fuck to give, it was my gift to you, Dont you want my single fuck?
[09:16] <cirustus> O.o
[09:16] <lpapp> dr_willis: let us use .xsession then
[09:16] <CptK00k> :Insufficient Fucks:
[09:16] <CptK00k> 404
[09:16] <ASKidwai> bobweaver: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:17] <dr_willis> lpapp:  a .xsession would not work for the lightdm login screen. only after it
[09:17] <bobweaver> !language | CptK00k
[09:17] <lpapp> dr_willis: yes, of course
[09:18] <lpapp> but I need to get something up asap
[09:18] <ASKidwai> Uh, bobweaver, thanks a lot
[09:18] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Usually, it is better to install packages, that are supported and updated. Installing from nvidia script must be justified somehow. The Ubuntu package is known to be bad?!
[09:18] <bobweaver> ASKidwai,  not sure to tell you the truth look up that command I would say ?
[09:18]  * ASKidwai was a bit stupid lol
[09:18] <ASKidwai> Yeah, it worked
[09:18] <CptK00k> Why y ask so many questions?
[09:18] <dr_willis> lpapp:  look in /etc/X11 NOTICE A xsessions.d full of scripts? ;)
[09:18] <bobweaver> Great to here ASKidwai
[09:18] <ASKidwai> :D
[09:18] <vmiheet> I have installed llvm package using apt
[09:18] <dr_willis> it pays to expore /etc/
[09:18] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Because I want to understand! possibly to advice people later.
[09:18] <vmiheet> The package has suffixed binaries like llvm-3.0
[09:19] <lizzin> theadmin:  i would like to try xmonad. happen to know of any docs i can read to familiarize myself w/ 12.04 + lightdm  and unity? i really am not sure how all of these are connected. i have xmonad installed and the various install docs say to add 'exec xmonad' to ~/.xinitrc. but that alone is not doing it. what should i look into?
[09:19] <vmiheet> I want to add such suffix in manual build
[09:19] <chu> lizzin: Do you boot to a login screen?
[09:19] <lpapp> dr_willis: I think that is a bad way of doing this
[09:19] <theadmin> lizzin: .xinitrc is onky ran when you do "xinit" manually honestly, if you use a desktop environment you should deal with this desktop environment's startup respectively.
[09:20] <CptK00k> Its because the nvidia drivers are proprietary software and nvidia does things right,
[09:20] <lpapp> dr_willis: somewhat annoying the vendor's configuration util does not have a "store permanently" option.
[09:20] <dr_willis> lpapp:  i think thats the 'designed' way for doing X setup stuff
[09:20] <dr_willis> or the xorg.conf file
[09:20] <lpapp> dr_willis: not according to the vendor's wiki to say the least.
[09:20] <chu> lizzin: There are a few things we can do here: a) Add `xmonad' to the login manager; b) disable the login manager.
[09:20] <vivien_m> CptK00k: nvidia-current-updates will not do the job?
[09:20] <CptK00k> NO!
[09:20] <lpapp> dr_willis: "Of course you can also apply the coordinates statically to the wacom.conf in xorg.conf.d or to the xorg.conf using: "
[09:21] <theadmin> CptK00k: Nvidia doesn't do things right? Tell me about it! ATI drivers require Xorg 1.11, jeebus, took me ages to figure out how to downgrade.
[09:21] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  can wew see a paste of  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:21] <bobweaver> we *
[09:21] <lpapp> dr_willis: tbh, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d did not work for me
[09:21] <lpapp> unsure why
[09:21] <CptK00k> We agree to disagree, i rather have some sort of OpenGl support then them nouveau boyz
[09:21] <vivien_m> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [Quadro NVS 4200M] [10de:1056] (rev a1)
[09:21] <CptK00k> Ghetto Fabolous for sure
[09:21] <vivien_m> bobweaver: just one line
[09:22] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  there is no driver with xorgers or frsh crack for that  ?
[09:22] <bobweaver> vivien_m, do you know what that is ?
[09:22] <vmiheet> I have installed llvm with apt. The llvm binary has suffix like llvm-3.0 I want to add such suffix to the binaries build manually with ./configure && make... Can someone help me?
[09:22] <lpapp> dr_willis: do you know what they mean by the "--xconf" switch ? http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/xsetwacom/
[09:23] <lpapp> that does not display anything I could just redirect into the xorg.conf...
[09:23] <vivien_m> bobweaver: lspci just shows the card, I believe
[09:23] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[09:23] <CptK00k> lawl i gave you the solution for your problem vivien_m
[09:23] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  Bledding edge one https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[09:23] <CptK00k> what do you want?
[09:23] <CptK00k> more fucks?
[09:23] <jatt> ban
[09:23] <CptK00k> i dont have any
[09:23] <vivien_m> bobweaver: lsmod show nvidia running. nvidia-settings does detect the external monitor
[09:23] <FloodBot1> CptK00k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:23] <lizzin> chu: i am currently booting to the std 12.04 login screen
[09:24] <chu> lizzin: Yeah, so you ignore the .xinitrc (by going to the login manager).
[09:25] <chu> So, couple of choices: Do you want to *keep* the login manager, and select `xmonad' from there. Or do you want to boot to TTY, login and `xmonad' is launched then?
[09:25] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  can we see a lsomod && apt-cache policy dump nvidia
[09:25] <vmiheet> I have installed llvm with apt. The llvm binary has suffix like llvm-3.0 I want to add such suffix to the binaries build manually with ./configure && make... Can someone help me?
[09:25] <emr> hello, i'm trying add ip address to /etc/network/interfaces, but getting Ignoring unknown interface eth0:1=eth0:1
[09:26] <theadmin> vmiheet: Will need to edit the Makefile and change the compilation output (one way I can think of)
[09:26] <lizzin> chu: preferably the latter. but it would be nice to know how to bring back the login screen at some point if wanted
[09:26] <vmiheet> theadmin: is there a simple option ot pass to ../configure?
[09:27] <chu> lizzin: Alright. Cool beans. Could we continue this in a private query window? (I don't want to clog up the channel)
[09:27] <theadmin> vmiheet: "configure" is a manufacturer-supplied script, and I don't use llvm and never built it from source, so I wouldn't know -- try ./configure --help
[09:27] <vivien_m> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006147/
[09:27] <vivien_m> bobweaver: I added "apt-cache policy dump nvidia-current" too at the end
[09:27] <lizzin> chu: sure
[09:28] <vmiheet> theadmin: Thank you so much, I'll try
[09:28] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  thanks looking now
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> vivien_m: c00k has been kicked, he was giving you bad advice (I just got back from a break)
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> vivien_m: please do use the drivers that are available in the repositories
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> !nvidia | vivien_m
[09:29] <vivien_m> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, thank you. That was my thinking!
[09:29] <donnaR> hey i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and for some reason my wireless adapter stops transmitting packets, any help?
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | donnaR
[09:29] <donnaR> yeah i just did
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: "stops transmitting packets" is a VERY specific conclusion, how did you reach it?
[09:30] <Fuchs> donnaR: details would be: what wireless adapter with what driver, how does that error show itself?
[09:30] <donnaR> run tcpdump
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: it's like saying your car's not sending power through the transmission...
[09:30] <donnaR> watchthe packets stop every 2-5mins
[09:31] <donnaR> well i did a quick google search and the problem is common, thought i come here poitn me out a guide
[09:31] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: yeah probably, i'd use the official driver
[09:31] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: do you have any other wireless devices you can test with your router?
[09:34] <donnaR> DarwinSurvivor, well the adapter works fine, i really dont know whats wrong right now i'm using a script that restarts the adapter every 5 min
[09:35] <vivien_m> This is strange that nvidia-settings see the monitor, but not xrandr. :-()
[09:35] <dr_willis> xrandr i think cant be used with nvidia drivers, you use the nvidia tools
[09:36] <dr_willis> but xrandr works with the  opensoured nvidia drivers
[09:36] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Before Ubuntu 12.04, I was using xrandr all time with nvidia proprietary drivers
[09:36] <dr_willis> at least i think thats what ive read i always use the nvidia tools
[09:36] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  i dont recall xrandr ever working for me with nvidia drivers/twinview
[09:36] <dr_willis> unless thers some limited set of functions that work
[09:37] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Maybe I was lucky then. I was working all time perfectly for me.
[09:37] <vivien_m> dr_willis: dual, rotation, etc.
[09:37] <dr_willis> i really havent needed xrandr much,  the rotation i belive does not work if using twinview
[09:37] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Can one write a script with nvidia tools? Like with xrandr?
[09:37] <dr_willis> at least you cant rotate one display, both or nothing
[09:38] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  havent really looked into them in ages.
[09:38] <iceroot_> dr_willis: just fyi if you are interested,  related to my nvidia optimus issue yesterday. nvidia-current is not able to handle optimus-cards so you have to use "bumblebee-nvidia" from a ppa, then everything is working fine
[09:38] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: can you try the adapter in another computer to rule out a hardware problem?
[09:38] <vivien_m> dr_willis: So you have a static configuration?
[09:38] <dr_willis> the nvidia docs on their drivers at one time was very big. :) i read it once years back
[09:38] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  yep. i rarely move/remove monitors.
[09:38] <donnaR> well it works fine under windows
[09:38] <donnaR> so it must be a driver problem
[09:39] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: ok
[09:39] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: what brand + model is it
[09:39] <lpapp> so what is the difference between .xinitrc and .xsessionrc ?
[09:39] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  i dont even recall you mentioniong it was using optimus. :) i stay away from optimus..
[09:39] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Ok. Static configuration is easy. nvidia tools are good for that. But when you can have different external monitors, this is a different story.
[09:40] <dr_willis> lpapp:  i thought .xinitrc has been superceded by .xsession   not seen a .xsessionrc
[09:40] <iceroot_> dr_willis: maybe i forgot to mention it :) optimus is a nice feature i think :)
[09:40] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  twinview changes require a X restart ive seen to work properly. so that may be an issue.
[09:40] <dr_willis> i always use twinview, rarely xinerama
[09:41] <lpapp> dr_willis: Source global environment variables.  This  script  will  source anything  in  $HOME/.xsessionrc  if  the  file  is present.
[09:41] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  the way nvidia has treated the linux world with respect to optimus drivers.. makes me lean towards a laptop with intel video next time
[09:42] <dr_willis> lpapp:  so things like EDITOR=foo go in there?
[09:42] <donnaR> DarwinSurvivor, ah to hell with it i'll put another distro
[09:42] <lpapp> dr_willis: there is even such an xsession stuff in /etc/X11/Xsession.d: 40x11-common_xsessionrc
[09:42] <dr_willis> well sourced means it gets ran. :)
[09:42] <lpapp> dr_willis: nope
[09:42] <lpapp> dr_willis: it is a script
[09:42] <lpapp> so anything that a script can handle
[09:42] <lpapp> including custom command like in my case
[09:42] <Tensotu> how do you untar a .tar.gz file from command line?
[09:42] <iceroot_> dr_willis: the only reason i bought this laptop was diablo 3, so intel VGA is the solution for me :( everything else is of course intel VGA and not nvidia/amd
[09:43] <iceroot_> is not
[09:43] <dr_willis> source fooscript  -: the commands in the script get ran as if you had typed them in  - be sure to not block the exectution of following commands
[09:43] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: have you tried the "binary drivers" utility to see if there are any special drivers for it?
[09:43] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  i will pass  on D3. ;)
[09:43] <iceroot_> dr_willis: great misstake :)
[09:43] <lpapp> dr_willis: so you learned today what .xsessionrc is ;)
[09:44] <Tensotu> dr_willis: mooege ftw?
[09:44] <dr_willis> iceroot_:   i will pass on anything by bblizzard for the foreseeable future. due to the companies past practices.
[09:44] <dr_willis> plus i got skyrim to play
[09:44] <vivien_m> Tensotu: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:44] <Tensotu> thank you vivien_m
[09:44] <dr_willis> lpapp:  no idea of anything i would ever need to put in it.
[09:44] <iceroot_> dr_willis: i respekt your opinion, i am doing the same for other company/products
[09:44] <elain> hello,everyone
[09:44] <lpapp> dr_willis: any X configuration...
[09:45] <lpapp> like touch on essentially any device not calibrated well by default ec...
[09:45] <lpapp> etc*, quite wide range tbh ;)
[09:45] <dr_willis> lpapp:  you mean any commands.
[09:45] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Can you rotate in nvidia-settings? I cannot find the option!
[09:45] <lpapp> dr_willis: yes, you can configure X with commands..
[09:45] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  i think you can. ive rarely needed to. and with twinvieew you can rotate both monitors or none.
[09:46] <vivien_m> dr_willis: I deactivated the laptop screen, activate the external monitor. But no rotation option, as far as I can see.
[09:47] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  no idea then. i rarely rotate. ;) except to read comic books
[09:47] <dr_willis> rotateing displays was a big thing for a while it seemed.. but now its not as common. perhaps becuse people are now watching videos instead of reading documents. ;)
[09:47] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Probably Option "RandRRotation" "true" needed in xorg.conf
[09:48] <elain> sd
[09:48] <dr_willis> or playing mame arcade games.. i rotated for that once ages ago
[09:48] <vivien_m> dr_willis: It happens I am still working. ;-) So I prefer the paper shape over the movie shape!
[09:49] <Merwin> Hi. How can I search for all files under a directory which contains some text ? (I can't find how to do this in Nautilus, Ctrl+F only works for file names)
[09:49] <djszapi> dr_willis: .xsessionrc worked oob
[09:49] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  next new feature in monitors will be... Square monitors!
[09:49] <djszapi> dr_willis: do you know if I can remove the top bar on the default 12.04 Ubuntu installation ?
[09:49] <dr_willis> djszapi:  for the login screen or after login?
[09:49] <vivien_m> Where is xorg.conf?
[09:49] <djszapi> I would like to use my application (customer) only with a launcher icon on the desktop
[09:49] <dr_willis> djszapi:  unity needs that too bar
[09:50] <dr_willis> use a differnt window manager if you want more customization
[09:50] <dr_willis> with a siimple panel perhaps
[09:50] <djszapi> dr_willis: after login since it was $HOME/.xsessionrc, but that is fine for now until the vendor replies.
[09:50] <dr_willis> or check out the various koisk type setups
[09:50] <djszapi> you mean "kiosk" ?
[09:51] <djszapi> well, why would Unity need that bar ?
[09:51] <djszapi> if I would not like to see that as a customer ?
[09:51] <dr_willis> djszapi:  now in gdm. there WAS a gdm user that Might have their own .Xsessionrc that would run for gdm when it starts.. but I dont know if lightddm has that. or if the new gdm in 12.04 still has it..
[09:51] <djszapi> I am not saying this should be autohidden, but I would like to be able to turn that off.
[09:51] <dr_willis> djszapi:  the apps menus appear there.
[09:52] <djszapi> dr_willis: I know what that is for ;)
[09:52] <djszapi> dr_willis: I also know what I would like to have.
[09:52] <dr_willis> unity may not be the best window manager for your needs.
[09:52] <djszapi> What is the simplest and fastest way to get a desktop _only_ where I have only one icon for launching the dedicated application.
[09:52] <dr_willis> you could run openbox and a single dock like wbar.
[09:53] <dr_willis> or just set the ap to run and keep reruning when closed
[09:53] <djszapi> dr_willis: that would not hide the top bar.
[09:53] <dr_willis> you dont want to go the 'no window manager route' because that can cause issues with file requestors and other dialogs
[09:54] <dr_willis> djszapi:  you are refering to the unity panel at the top with the cock and stuff? thast would not be there if you are not using unity at all
[09:54] <djszapi> dr_willis: :( I did remove the launcher on the left side. Can that cause any troubles ?
[09:54] <dr_willis> clock ;)
[09:54] <djszapi> :p
[09:54] <dr_willis> djszapi:  the left side panel again. is part of unity
[09:54] <djszapi> dr_willis: ok... rewording: I made that autohide....
[09:55] <dr_willis> use somthing other then unity = no left side or top panels..
[09:55] <dr_willis> unless the wm you are using has somthing similer.
[09:56] <dr_willis> You could use icewm and make its  bottom panel hide, and just have a single app in its menus/quick launch bar
[09:56] <dr_willis> dozens of ways you could do it.
[09:56] <djszapi> dr_willis: again, I did already autohide that.
[09:56] <djszapi> I presume, that can cause no issues.
[09:56] <dr_willis> launcher hideing is common ;)
[09:57] <djszapi> dr_willis: iirc, it was even the default earlier times...
[09:57] <dr_willis> i always set it to nevver hide back then
[09:57] <ggherdov> Hi all. I just "switched user", logged in with the new user, and I have a blank screen. What can I do? apart from don't panicking, which isn't that easy (reboot is not an option). CTRL+ALT+F{1,2,3,...,12} doesn't do anything.
[09:57] <VMERSINTO> what language is k3b written in?
[09:57] <Tensotu> anything wrong with this command? mv -Tf /etc /
[09:57] <djszapi> VMERSINTO: C++/Qt/KDE
[09:58] <VMERSINTO> no way
[09:58] <VMERSINTO> lol
[09:58] <ariana> ggherdov, startx
[09:58] <ariana> :)
[09:58] <dr_willis> Tensotu:  what are you trying to do?
[09:58] <Tensotu> merge that etc with /etc
[09:58] <ggherdov> ariana: if I had a shell. but I don't.
[09:59] <VMERSINTO> djszapi : its a combination of all three?
[09:59] <ggherdov> ariana: blank screen. Keyboard is... ignored.
[09:59] <djszapi> KDE depends on Qt, Qt is a C++ framework...
[09:59] <djszapi> dr_willis: thanks for your help!
[10:00] <dr_willis> djszapi:  simplest way to do your thing may be to use jwm and just define a single launcher app for its panel  you can then autohide
[10:00] <VMERSINTO> djszapi : I am a comp sci student using kubuntu doing c++ right now that why i was kind of shocked when you said that
[10:00] <dr_willis> jwm is also the ligtest wm ive seen
[10:00] <Tensotu> dr_willis: merge that etc with /etc
[10:00] <dr_willis> VMERSINTO:  kde uses QT so whats so shocking
[10:01] <dr_willis> Tensotu:  i alwyas cheat and use 'mc' for tasks like that
[10:01] <VMERSINTO> dr_willis : I havent learned about frameworks yet
[10:01] <Tensotu> mc?
[10:01] <VMERSINTO> dr_willis : I am just seeing where c++ shows up
[10:01] <dr_willis> !info mc
[10:01]  * dr_willis runs away from C++
[10:01] <Tensotu> yea.. no GUI lol
[10:01] <dr_willis> luckly i  dont code.
[10:02] <samuel> i wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems
[10:02] <samuel> every time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel
[10:02] <samuel> i want it to read something else, like just "desktop"
[10:02] <dr_willis> i thought 'ubuntu' was the pcs name/hostname
[10:02] <VMERSINTO> is python more versatile than c++
[10:02] <ggherdov> ariana: EDIT: I was wrong. It is just damn slow. It is swapping like crazy (about 1 GB).
[10:02] <hrw> hi
[10:03] <hrw> does someone produced openvpn client keys using https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html doc?
[10:03] <dr_willis> but python's core is written in.....  so that dosent make sence. ;)
[10:03] <VMERSINTO> dr_willis : I am just confused
[10:04] <dr_willis> VMERSINTO:  ;) yep. i think so.
[10:04] <samuel> unfortunately not, i looked in /etc/hostname and it just reads the name of the pc
[10:04] <samuel> nothing about ubuntu
[10:04] <dr_willis> samuel:  so whats your pcs hostname?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> samuel: that is what the file is for
[10:05] <kouran> hey guys, i am running a 3.2.0-generic ubuntu and need to compile c++ code for our cluster running a 2.6.18 kernel. any1 know how to cross compile this?
[10:05] <samuel> yes, i'm happy with the hostname, i only want to change what it says from the desktop
[10:05] <dr_willis> samuel:  so you rhostname is not 'ubuntu' ?
[10:05] <samuel> yes, thats right
[10:06] <samuel> in 12.04 it appears that when you have no active windows, the top panel reads "ubuntu desktop"
[10:06] <samuel> i want to change it for the purposes of debranding
[10:07] <dr_willis> if nautilus is showing icons on the desktop... i wonder hos you have no active windows... ;)  may have to test thata
[10:07] <samuel> i have previously been using a different distro which came with debranding but it seems that since 11.10 they havnt bothered, which is a problem for me
[10:08] <dr_willis> DeBrandBuntu
[10:08] <samuel> yes i mean apart from the icons, i mean when you first log in, before you have loaded anything it just says "ubuntu desktop" that is obviously a problem if you cannot ship ubuntu vanilla for legal reasons
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> kouran: could grab the liveCD ISO with that  kernel and chroot to it
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> samuel: you can ship vanilla ubuntu
[10:08] <samuel> not with proprietary software preinstalled
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> samuel: thats not vanilla then is it...
[10:09]  * dr_willis head spins..
[10:09] <melvincv> How may I paste long numbers as it is in Libreoffice Calc? Like 13379390294829270202
[10:09] <samuel> we have previously been using linux mint, but the changes in their desktop shell means inconsistancies with the interface - unity offers the best for that
[10:09] <samuel> i have tried debrandbuntu but it does not load the 12.04 iso
[10:10]  * dr_willis just made up the name DeBrandbuntu ;)  never  heard of it befor
[10:10] <samuel> besides, this is surely something that is in a config file somewhere, it cant be in compiled code can it??
[10:10] <dr_willis> samuel:  with unity  and gnome - yes it can be compiled in.
[10:10] <kouran> ActionParsnip: my current approach is simmilar, i'm running a vm in background that i use for compilation.  just thought maybe there is a better way in ubuntu.  in gentoo you could have multiple kernel sources alongside each other and tell gcc against which libraries to compile the code. but since those were tool i don't really know how to do that without them.
[10:11] <auronandace> samuel: let me get this straight, you want to remove the branding and make a derivative?
[10:11] <samuel> its more about the desktop shell than it is about the distro, i want to use the unity desktop without falling foul of canonical's no proprietary software rule
[10:12] <auronandace> samuel: what's stopping you?
[10:12] <samuel> "ubuntu desktop"
[10:13] <samuel> apart from that there is no other sign of it, i have even removed the circle of friends logo from the launcher
[10:13] <auronandace> samuel: so am i right in concluding you want to make a derivative of ubuntu?
[10:13] <edwinkcw> Hello, I have a zip file which is zipped under windows. I try unzip it under ubuntu, I found that the file seperator is wrong, which destroy the file hierarchy. How can I solve that?
[10:13] <samuel> derivative distro's are particularily unhelpul when it comes to advice over the configuration of unity, even if its work that they have previously done
[10:13] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  what file seperator?
[10:14] <auronandace> samuel: so what is the point of debranding unless you want to create a derivative?
[10:14] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: linux uses /, but I view the files in the zip, it uses \
[10:14] <Merwin> How can I search for all files under a directory which contains some text ? (I can't find how to do this in Nautilus, Ctrl+F only works for file names)
[10:14] <samuel> i dont want to change anything about ubuntu except for the branding, but i want to use the unity shell because the interface must be a) free sub menu's and b) work with or without graphics accelleratin and still retain its look
[10:14] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: after unzipping, the file becomes sth like folderA\folderB\a.txt
[10:15] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  cant say ive ever seen that in a zip. You could always try winzip in wine i guess.
[10:15] <auronandace> samuel: because...
[10:15] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  or make a vfat filesystem in a file  mount it via loopback and unzip it in there..
[10:15] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  or try one of the fuse-archive filesystems..
[10:15] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: which is a library called phpexcel, I just download it
[10:16] <dr_willis> i wonder how wine would do it.
[10:16] <samuel> we dont distribute our software like a linux distro, once the alterations are made that make our software workable on the computer, it is kept as an iso or img and then written directly to the hardware and sold like that
[10:16] <dr_willis> im not at home so i cant test any of this edwinkcw  im just thinking of things to try
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> samuel: then that'sfine afaik with the GPL etc
[10:16] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: ok
[10:17] <samuel> when you say derivative, thats like making your own distro, i'm not interested in doing that, i'm only interested in creating a suitable running environment for my software
[10:17] <auronandace> samuel: ah, so you are making a derivative then, since you are redistributing it with hardware
[10:17] <auronandace> samuel: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[10:18] <dr_willis> im not sure why removing ubuntu makes it suddenly ok..
[10:18] <samuel> is there no specific  channel just for unity?
[10:18] <auronandace> dr_willis: i don't think it does
[10:18] <dr_willis> auronandace:  but im not a laywer.. but i bet the people in #GPL may know
[10:18] <samuel> well it means i can use a derivative distro and apply the same fix to it
[10:19] <samuel> the problem is, linux mint have stopped removing the ubuntu branding from unity
[10:19] <VX1> hi, is there some easy way to do multiseat for 12.04 ?
[10:19] <auronandace> samuel: mint doesn't use unity and isn't supported here either
[10:19] <dr_willis> VX1:  from what i hear lightdm supports multiseat. saw some artical onit on  the webupd8 blog site a month or 2 ago
[10:19] <samuel> its in their repo's, and its unmodified
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> samuel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93688/can-i-legally-build-and-sell-desktops-with-ubuntu-pre-installed    I'd contact the OEM services team and check. You may ust be able to fling the proprietary stuff on and be ok.
[10:20] <samuel> its the same unity that you get in ubuntu
[10:20] <auronandace> samuel: then you'd need to ask for help in the mint channel
[10:20] <samuel> i have already tried that
[10:21] <samuel> it seems they dont offer help on all the packages in their own repo's
[10:21] <dr_willis> VX1:  there was some new/cheap multiseat hardware comming out also that aparently works out of the box with redhat, and ubuntu was being worked on next
[10:21] <VX1> well is there an alternative to multiseat ?
[10:21] <dr_willis> VX1:  clarify exactly what you want to do
[10:22] <VX1> well i got a bunch of people coming over tomorrow, so i want to plug a bunch of keyboard/mouse to my comp and have a small lan party
[10:22] <dr_willis> VX1:  no extra monitors?
[10:22] <VX1> ofcourse
[10:23] <dr_willis> you need some way of driveing those monitors..
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> samuel: userful is ok http://userful.com/products/userful-multiseat-linux
[10:24] <dr_willis> were those the guys selling the $50 mmultiseat adaptors..   you just add your own keyboard/mouse ;)
[10:24] <dr_willis> and monitor
[10:24] <sam1967> my alt-tab is no longer working . any ideas ?
[10:25] <dr_willis> i think they even used usb. so you could have a lot on a low end pc
[10:25] <VX1> well i can plug it in directly, gonna get a usb hub though for the k/m so its not too far from the pc
[10:25] <VX1> just want to be able to set it up quickly
[10:25]  * nathan20081 the first time to use irc
[10:27]  * nathan20081 is ubuntu popular in your country?
[10:27] <auronandace> nathan20081: this is a support channel, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:28]  * nathan20081 thanks
[10:28] <auronandace> nathan20081: also irc basics in #freenode (you seem to be using /me a lot)
[10:29] <nathan20081> this is new to me
[10:31] <anggamovic> ?
[10:32] <serdotlin> Hello, I've done compiling kernel 3.4, something went wrong, how do I switch back to kernel 3.2?
[10:40] <branant> serdotlin: Keep compiling until you get it right! ;-)
[10:42] <serdotlin> branant, is there a way to get my default ubuntu kernel 3.2, i know you have to press shift button. But I want kernel 3.2 as a default, please help me!!!
[10:43] <serdotlin> branant: is there a way to get my default ubuntu kernel 3.2, i know you have to press shift button. But I want kernel 3.2 as a default, please help me!!! How  to remove 3.4 from grub menu entry?
[10:43] <branant> serdotlin: Try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <branant> serdotlin: If I am right, this will get you back the default kernel. Once you are running it, do "sudo apt-get autoremove" and that will remove the other, unused kernels
[10:47] <serdotlin> branant: i'm compiling on my netbook...it was painful...
[10:48] <branant> serdotlin: I know, but it doesn't get any more fun then that!
[10:48] <khmerog_> grrrr...kubuntu doesnt work with my HD 6870 card
[10:49] <khmerog_> depressing..
[10:49] <serdotlin> branant: at login screen, i cannot use the touchpad...after login, resolution was terrible and no mouse cursor and touchpad...
[10:49] <branant> khmerog:  Did you try to install ATI proprietary driver?
[10:50] <branant> serdotlin: Is there a way you can get to the terminal?
[10:51] <khmerog_> no i didnt branant
[10:51] <serdotlin> branant: i'm using kernel 3.2 now...unity is working...sure
[10:51] <khmerog_> do u think that will work?
[10:52] <branant> khmerog_: I am sure it usually works for nVidia cards. I am pretty sure it will work here too
[10:53] <serdotlin> branant: but i have to press shift button to select 3.2...waiting for dist-upgrade now...
[10:53] <serdotlin> branant: which terminal output do you want to see?
[10:53] <branant> serdotlin: uname -a
[10:54] <khmerog_> haha nevermind i figured it out
[10:54] <khmerog_> i just had to change the screen resolution
[10:54] <serdotlin> branant: Linux precise 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[10:54] <khmerog_> i went to the wrong place to do that
[10:54] <ngomes> hello , im having trouble upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[10:55] <branant> serdotlin: ok that's cool, now run sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:55] <ngomes> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:55] <ngomes> this is the error
[10:55] <fasta> How do I enable window previews for minimized and non-minimized applications in Unity?
[10:56] <branant> khmerog_: I think you should still install the latest and greatest driver from ATI! ;)
[10:56] <donnaR> hey, does restarting your pc using shutdown cause files to disappear and disk damage?
[10:56] <donnaR> shutdown  the command that is
[10:56] <branant> donnaR: No.
[10:56] <fasta> I enabled the window previews via compiz, but that only shows it for the currently active application (not even applications).
[10:58] <datruth> is there away to enable a proxy system wide?
[10:58] <donnaR> strange it just rm'd my .bashrc twice in a row
[10:58] <donnaR> time for xubuntu i guess
[10:58] <fidel_> donnaR: who is 'it'
[11:00] <serdotlin> branant: look at this screenshot>http://imgur.com/JP8gP
[11:01] <ngomes> hello ?? any help ?
[11:01] <[DeVil-BoY]> tambem quero help
[11:02] <[DeVil-BoY]> ops wrong channel
[11:02] <ngomes> calou br
[11:02] <khmerog_> hi
[11:02] <khmerog_> i am having troubles installing kubuntu
[11:02] <khmerog_> can i ask it here or do they have their own channel?
[11:02] <fidel_> khmerog_: just ask
[11:03] <fidel_> kubuntu is nothing else then ubuntu using KDE ...so go for it ;)
[11:03] <khmerog_> do i make a partition before installing kub?
[11:04] <fidel_> khmerog_: the installer should analyse the situation of your disks and offer several options
[11:04] <khmerog_> when i do, during the installation it wont let me use that partition. instead it gives me a slider to let me choose how much space i want to use for kub BUT it doesnt let me use the drive i just partitioned
[11:04] <fidel_> some tend to be without user-input - some offer manual fiddling
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  yes, use fdisk to that end -- start by typing sudo fdisk -l to get an idea
[11:04] <khmerog_> which is okay but now that drive i just partition is not usuable or i canot even extend it back to the windows 7 drive
[11:05] <legend2440> hello, i am using ubuntu 12.04. can someone tell me where you set behavior for things like when you put in a cd or dvd and you can set options like open or do nothing?
[11:05] <khmerog_> sudo fdisk -1
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l (l stands for list)
[11:06] <fidel_> legend2440: some default applications can be defined using 'System Settings'
[11:06] <jobinar> legend2440,  I use Ubuntu 11.10, i have it in the system settings
[11:06] <legend2440> ok thanks
[11:06] <jobinar> u have an icon there "removable media"
[11:08] <GoodByeMegaton> hello
[11:08] <GoodByeMegaton> where can i adjust a defaults for wpa_supplicant in addiction to network-manager ? i need to set there scan_ssid=1 for all connections
[11:10] <khmerog_> what software do u use to uninstall a linux OS while keeping windows 7? everythime i uninstall (usually just delete the drive linux is on  :P)  i get a boot, grub error
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  use a live cd, it installs the distro neatly alongside your windows installation
[11:11] <fidel_> khmerog_: well basically you wouldnt need grub anymore as well if you jump back to a windows7 only setup
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  to uninstal, just delete the linu parttion
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> linux*
[11:12] <khmerog_> like i said MonkeyDust i have done that many times and each time i get a boot up error MBR or Grub error one of them
[11:12] <serdotlin> somebody show me how to remove kernel 3.4> here the screenshot> http://imgur.com/JP8gP
[11:12] <khmerog_> so there is no app out there that neatly removes any OS
[11:12] <khmerog_> live cd = wubi?
[11:12] <fidel_> khmerog_: in worst case - you'll need to repair the mbr afterwards
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  have you used wubi to install?
[11:13] <fidel_> khmerog_: but it might help to see the actual error you really get
[11:13] <khmerog_> i have used wubi the first time i ever installed Ubuntu yes (11.xx) but ppl here say WUBI is bad bad idea
[11:14] <khmerog_> but now i usually either do the manual installation or use the slider to determine how much space i want to use
[11:14] <khmerog_> i love the slider option but not all distro has it..which is unfortunate
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  wubi is about the worst invention since the atomic bomb, but anyway, to uninstall, just delete it in windows
[11:14] <datruth> Anyone know?
[11:15] <jobinar> datruth, what was ur question? Can u repeat?
[11:15] <khmerog_> lol monkeydust
[11:16] <pfifo> datruth, yes, HTTP_PROXY variable
[11:16] <khmerog_> wubi is very simple to use to install but why is it bad?
[11:16] <khmerog_> or what makes it bad?
[11:16] <jobinar> wubi installs ubuntu "over" windows, that's y i think
[11:17] <pfifo> datruth, but some programs dont respect it (like web browsers)
[11:17] <auronandace> jobinar: inside, not over
[11:17] <datruth> hrmm
[11:17] <Wizard> khmerog_, Wubi creates Ubuntu images as normal files on NTFS.
[11:17] <Wizard> That's why.
[11:17] <datruth> jobinar: wanted to know how to set system wide proxy
[11:17] <datruth> pfifo: where is the HTTP_PROXY var?
[11:17] <jobinar> auronandace, ya, my mistake
[11:17] <Wizard> Wubi is evil ]:->
[11:18] <jobinar> Wizard, does it, really?
[11:18] <jobinar> so how does the execution of programs take place?
[11:18] <jobinar> since linux, i heard, executes only on ext partitions
[11:19] <Wizard> It creates partition image on Windows drive and set's up Grub4DOS.
[11:19] <Wizard> So, The image is being mounted as root during boot, that's all.
[11:19] <Wizard> No magic.
[11:20] <Wizard> But you can't rely on NTFS, since it was implemented mostly by reverse engineering, AFAIK.
[11:20] <kubanc> i have a question about phoca and picasa. Is the authentication key with or without char '#' ?
[11:20] <jobinar> Wizard, but if the files are stored on NTFS partition, how can u execute ur programs on NTFS partition? Does linux support execution on NTFS>
[11:20] <Wizard> jobinar, files aren't stored on NTFS.
[11:21] <Wizard> Whole partition image is.
[11:21] <auronandace> jobinar: wubi makes an image file that is stored on the ntfs partition
[11:21] <Wizard> One, big file with EXT4 or whatever FS.
[11:21] <jobinar> auronandace, then is the image running on NTFS partition?
[11:22] <auronandace> jobinar: think of it as a virtual disk
[11:22] <Wizard> jobinar, However, I still don't recommend using Wubi.
[11:23] <auronandace> jobinar: the image file is stored on ntfs and mounted as a loopback device (afaik)
[11:23] <Wizard> auronandace, Something like that.
[11:23] <shape> Hello, I've just installed a new card ATI HD 3850 and I instaleld the Ati proprietary drivers and the whole system is laggy. Laggy mouse every 20 seconds or so, hell even a 360p video on youtube is extremely laggy.I've tried some fixes from forums which involved editing the xorg.confcan. Someone please please help me, I've been trying to fix this for the past 3 hours. :(
[11:23] <jobinar> whats a loopback device, auronandace ?
[11:23] <tuxx-> hi, how can i disable the 'quote-spacebar' windows like behaviour in ubuntu 12.04 ? :)
[11:23] <Wizard> jobinar, a device "emulating" real device.
[11:23] <sentenza> result
[11:23] <auronandace> jobinar: like an iso emulates a cd
[11:23] <lobster3038> hello
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> quote spacebar?
[11:24] <jobinar> then  Wizard is it that u don't recommend emulation?
[11:25] <auronandace> jobinar: wubi is not an emulator
[11:25] <auronandace> jobinar: emulation is better than wubi in my opinion (safer)
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> an iso file is a iso9660 filesystem in a file. ;)  its not emulating a cd.
[11:25] <Wizard> jobinar, No, I recommend normal install, on hard drive partition.
[11:26] <tuxx-> is there any way to disable the feature where you have to hit spacebar before a " shows up in ubuntu 12.04 ? Tried a different keyboard layout, but the feature remains :(
[11:26] <auronandace> jobinar: wubi was always intended as a way to test out ubuntu (never a long term solution)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> I agree. normal install if you want to use Ubuntu, or test it in virtualbox.
[11:26] <auronandace> Dr_Willis: sorry, bad terminology
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> !info vice
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> :) my favorite emulator is 'vice'
[11:27] <Shaitan|BIG> for emulating what?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Versatile Commodore Emulator - C64, C128, Vic-2-
[11:27] <Wizard> ;]
[11:27] <andyw> hooo the commy
[11:28] <khmerog_> why dont they make the kubuntu installer do partitionauto for u :( like the swap, / , home, /root, etc..
[11:28] <fasta> How do I enable window previews for minimized and non-minimized applications in Unity?
[11:28] <Wizard> Real men use real hardware. Emulation is for.. kids.
[11:28] <Wizard> :>
[11:28] <fasta> I cannot believe it was shipped without this feature/with this bug.
[11:29] <jobinar> Thanks everyone!
[11:29] <fasta> I basically like everything about Unity, except that.
[11:29] <fasta> It completely kills the experience.
[11:29] <erle-> how can i get sound in a application that asks for /dev/dsp?
[11:29] <erle-> aoss does not work
[11:29] <erle-> ubuntu 12.04
[11:29] <Wizard> fasta, Screenshot, or id didn't happen ;]
[11:30] <user2> fasta:  rofl!
[11:30] <fasta> Wizard: I am talking about hover mouse over a launcher icon.
[11:30] <fasta> Wizard: no images are then displayed of all the windows on the current desktop.
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> user2  don't lol and rofl here please
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> i used to enable that on the old gnome i rember fasta  never really noticed it missing. never really cared. ;)
[11:31] <Wizard> fasta, That's right.
[11:31] <fasta> Dr_Willis: if I have 10 terminals open. How do I know which one to pick?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if that would work with some of the docks if you enabled the feature in compiz ccsm
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  You should know - they are your terminals..
[11:31]  * Dr_Willis uses screen
[11:31] <Wizard> You have to click on the tile, fasta. Than you will see thumbnails.
[11:32] <andyw> no loling or rolfing?
[11:32] <chu> If you have 10 terminals open, you're probably doing something wrong.
[11:32] <tailf> if i want to test out an operating system in a VM, what's the best way to set this from ubuntu?
[11:32] <fasta> Wizard: that's part of the 'it kills the experience'.
[11:32] <Wizard> Ah.
[11:32] <Wizard> Now I get it.
[11:32] <fasta> chu: there are people who manage 90 of them.
[11:32] <chu> There are people doing something wrong.
[11:33] <andyw> chu I often have a load of putty sessions open in windows
[11:33] <fasta> Dr_Willis: Ì also use screen, but how exactly is the work flow then?
[11:33] <Wizard> fasta, Unity-2d has such feature, you click on the icon and it shows thumbnails of this application. Terminal, in your case.
[11:33] <jobinar> Does anyone know what is the maximum no of OS anyone can install on their system, considering he has unlimited disk space?
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  work? whats that? ;P
[11:33] <jobinar> hklj
[11:33] <jobinar> giu
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  oh work.. thats where i sit all day and irc from my cellphone instead of the pc. ;)
[11:34] <halvors> I'm having problems using IPv6 on my computer. It seems to prefer IPv4...
[11:34] <Wizard> jobinar, Infinity.
[11:34] <andyw> jobinar, lots
[11:34] <halvors> Any way to simply enable it?
[11:34] <fasta> Dr_Willis: ... not helpful.
[11:34] <DJones> jobinar: I don't think there is a maximum, it comes down to disk space and being able to create enough partitions
[11:34] <halvors> Why isn't IPv6 enabled by default.
[11:34] <halvors> ?
[11:34] <andyw> because so few places have support for it yet
[11:34] <krababbel> halvors: just enable it
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> fasta:   i doubt if its going to be enablable in unity. the feature was rather buggy in  the old gnome.  I mentioned trying some of the docks out that Might emulate the old gnome panel enough where it might work with them
[11:34] <halvors> How? :)
[11:34] <jobinar> ok
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> most guides are how to disable ipv6 :)
[11:35] <halvors> krababbel: How do i enable it?
[11:35] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and whenever I open Nautalis via the GUI it takes anywhere between 5-10s to open, and the "Opening <dir name>" can hang for up to a little under a minute. When done through the terminal, it opens fine. Anybody know how to fix this? I'm using GNOME Classic.
[11:35] <andyw> classic a classy man
[11:36] <halvors> Dr_Willis: I know. But i want to use IPv6 since i actually have IPv6 connectivity.
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> halvors  it isnt enabled, to avoid a lot of people asking how to disable it
[11:36] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: You want to use IPv6 internally?
[11:36] <andyw> halvors, are you chatting from the future?
[11:36] <khmerog_> nope im having troubles..the best way that worked for me was to partition the drive on windows first and then install kubuntu. anyone else do it this way?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  wow. :) thats like having a color printer back in the 1960s ;)
[11:36] <halvors> No gloablly.
[11:36] <halvors> Well, it's 6in4 on my Cisco router :P
[11:36] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog_: No, that way sounds terrible lol
[11:37] <khmerog_> hmm
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  check the network manager settings? if it was anywhere. id think it would be there
[11:37] <andyw> halvors, windows mangles partitions
[11:37] <krababbel> it does not!
[11:37] <khmerog_> deltaheavy because if i dont do it that wy. kubuntu will install over my windows 7
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  theres a ipv6 settings tab in network manager.
[11:37] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog_: The NTFS drivers for Linux is terrible compared to naitive support
[11:38] <halvors> Dr_Willis: But there is no way to enable it...
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> khmerog_:  i use a gparted live cd and  resize and leave part of the HD unallocated for the linux installer to partion. or i just make the partions from gparted and tell the installer exactly where to install to.
[11:38] <szal> DeltaHeavy: still better than Ext* drivers for Windows
[11:38] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog_: Not if you do it properly. Shrink your NTFS partition in Windows then either set your partition table up manually for *buntu or select "Use exisitng free space"
[11:38] <DeltaHeavy> szal: Agree'd
[11:38] <halvors> My problem is that Ubuntu prefer IPv4 over IPv6, wich makes IPv6 pointless.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  it seems to be enabled here. set to automatic. buti got  no ipv6 router/features to give out any (that i know of)
[11:39] <andyw> Dr_Willis, you use gparted to shrink ntfs FSes?
[11:39] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: IPv6 is meant to be used externally. Ubuntu really wasn't meant to be much more than a desktop OS.
[11:39] <halvors> IPv6 should be enabled by default after World IPv6 Launch.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  it can do it. i do find windows7 can resize its own NTFS MUCH faster then gparted does
[11:40] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: Plain false, IPv4 will be used internally for a long time to come. IPv6 is mainly for the actual internet, not your intranet.
[11:40] <andyw> last time i used gparted to resize a NTFS FS a train wreak doesn’t being to descibe the outcome
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  and windows 7 can resize the partion while in use.. so i can play farmville  and resize. :) w
[11:40] <halvors> But how to enable it?
[11:40] <halvors> Even Windows 7 prefer IPv6...
[11:40] <DeltaHeavy> Yeah, if you're going to resize a propriary file system use it's proprietary tool to do so for best results
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  the reccomended  routine is to scandisk/defrag then use gparted, then rescandisk i belive
[11:41] <andyw> Dr_Willis, really? when did they bring that in. Can it do the system volume?
[11:41] <krababbel> i'd never use gparted for ntfs
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  i resized my main partion on a new windows box to install linux while in use. so yes.
[11:41] <krababbel> andyw: system volume resize while oneline works, on win7
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  befor win7 - i dont think it could.
[11:41] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: You sure? I doubt it, I've only ever used IPv4 on Windows 7. Also try looking around in /etc/network/ for a configuration file.
[11:41] <melvincv> When the internet connection fails, the ssh session just gets stuck, I do not get my terminal prompt back. Why?
[11:42] <andyw> Thats pretty cool I have done live extensions in windows server but didnt know win7 can shrink the system vol live
[11:42] <DeltaHeavy> melvincv: Try an escape key like "Ctrl + C" or "Ctrl + Z"
[11:43] <melvincv> DeltaHeavy: no go
[11:43] <krababbel> andyw: it can, though windows has no tools to compact the files to get more space
[11:43] <happy> hi i am so happy whit ubuntu 12.04 , i want to know more this OS :)
[11:43] <krababbel> but there are trial versions of defragmenters to do that
[11:43] <andyw> there is a free one as well
[11:43] <andyw> forget the name
[11:44] <c0deMaster> how to detect and block port scanning?
[11:44] <krababbel> I used perfect disk trial
[11:44] <Onkeltem> Would you recommend an app for monitoring traffic consumption by applications?
[11:44] <andyw> c0deMaster,  depends on how your connected to the internet
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> compact the files?  you mean defrag the hd?
[11:45] <DeltaHeavy> c0deMaster: That's more a question for #networking or #security
[11:45] <rildo> Hi ! I would like to talk about shell scripts. What is the channel ?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> rildo  try #bash
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> c0deMaster:  theres services like fail2ban or  others.. but if you have no services listening.. then the scans see nothing.. so they move on.
[11:45] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and whenever I open Nautalis via the GUI it takes anywhere between 5-10s to open, and the "Opening <dir name>" can hang for up to a little under a minute. When done through the terminal, it opens fine. Anybody know how to fix this? I'm using GNOME Classic.
[11:46] <andyw> so is this just a gen chat channel then?
[11:46] <happy> is there an internet maltiplayer in ubuntu
[11:46] <happy> ?
[11:46] <rildo> Thanks MonkeyDust
[11:46] <van9ogh> I don't like unity
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> van9ogh:  so use some of the other desktops
[11:46] <DeltaHeavy> happy: Gaming in Linux is pretty much non-existant compared to Windows. Why I still run Windows mainly.
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> van9ogh  i don't like/use unity
[11:47] <DeltaHeavy> andyw: Support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is gen chat
[11:47] <van9ogh> yes,Mint
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> van9ogh  mint is not supported here
[11:47] <andyw> DeltaHeavy, cool just clarifying
[11:47] <happy> i do not understand what you mean ?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> van9ogh:  theres   kde, gnome-shell, lxde, xfce, and others..
[11:47] <happy> ?
[11:47] <c0deMaster> andyw, for a vps?
[11:47] <auronandace> van9ogh: mint is a distribution, not a desktop
[11:47] <van9ogh> so,meta
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> happy  start here http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[11:49] <DeltaHeavy> Who the hell puts a dir like /html/ on their website lol
[11:50] <happy> first of first [[ I NEED TO MAKE MY NAME IN THIS CHAT SHOW TO ME AS A DEFRENT COLOUR]]
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> happy:  no you dont.. its OUR clients that color the nicks.. not yours
[11:50] <bazhang> happy, lose the caps
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> happy:  so check your irc client docs if you cant see your own nick. ;)
[11:51] <happy> okay sorry
[11:51] <bazhang> happy, which irc client
[11:51] <happy> i am so new in this
[11:51] <bazhang> the gateway
[11:52] <bazhang> happy, you might ask in #freenode about the webchat client
[11:52] <DeltaHeavy> happy: Usually if you go to Edit --> Preferences it'll be somewhere there.
[11:52] <happy> thanks :)
[11:53] <DeltaHeavy> I have no idea what client you're using but it's the equivlent to 'Tools --> Options' in Windows.
[11:54] <happy> CTCP ?
[11:54] <happy> what is CTCP ?
[11:55] <bazhang> happy, to check your version irc client ctcp version
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> happy:  time to read up some irc basics sites i belive. ;)
[11:56] <happy> Dr_Willis where would i find that ??
[11:56] <DeltaHeavy> happy: The Googler
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> the Internetz! ;)
[11:57] <van9ogh> 有人会说中文吗
[11:57] <bazhang> van9ogh, #ubuntu-cn
[11:57] <DeltaHeavy> happy: Honestly I wouldn't be too concerned with learning IRC basics other than: 1) Registering   2) Getting around
[11:57] <van9ogh> understand
[11:57] <van9ogh> thx!
[11:58] <shape> Hello, I installed an ATI card and installed the proprietary drivers, and the mouse is laggy and the desktop is laggy as well. Even youtube videos. I searched online with no success. Any suggestions?
[11:58] <happy> i am learning now
[11:58] <happy> i will be back  :)
[11:59] <DeltaHeavy> shape: ATI isn't supported very well in Linux at all. There may not be a fix at all but I'm not certain.
[11:59] <shape> DeltaHeavy, damn, I should've know before I bought it then :(
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> happy  the best way to learn, is by just using it, like we all did and do
[12:01] <shape> DeltaHeavy, should I install the drivers from their site? I heard they can break the system, on multiple forums.
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> it also depends on how new the ati card and how old .:)
[12:01] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Is it a Linux driver?
[12:01] <shape> DeltaHeavy, yes
[12:01] <happy> :( how to change the input languch to arabic in ubuntu ??
[12:02] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Is it reported to break on *buntu or Debian related distros, or distros like Fedora because I know Fedora has major issues with that.
[12:02] <shape> DeltaHeavy, actually on their website, there is none!
[12:02] <DeltaHeavy> shape: What about the stuff you read?
[12:03] <shape> DeltaHeavy, I would have to dig it up again. Also I can;t even install the post-release drivers even!. I get an error from jockey.
[12:05] <shape> DeltaHeavy, would it matter if I had an nvidia card before, and purged the nvidia-current. After which I installed the card? Would it get fixed if I format everything and do a clean install?
[12:05] <DeltaHeavy> shape: What's the error?
[12:05] <shape> DeltaHeavy, one sec.
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> shape:  if you have a spare flash drive you could do a quick instal to it. and try the ati drivers from a new install as a test
[12:05] <DeltaHeavy> shape: A reinstall would fix that but it's probably not needed. I'm not too sure about that though.
[12:06] <happy> :( how to change the input languch to arabic in ubuntu
[12:06] <DeltaHeavy> shape: You could also Google your exact card and the vesion of Ubuntu you're using like this '"<card>" "Ubuntu 12.04"'
[12:06] <shape> Dr_willis: I thought of that, but then I am too noob to know how to delete from Grub the Ubuntu option that would be on the flash after I remove the flash
[12:07] <DeltaHeavy> happy: A lot of these questions can be awnsered very easily with a simple Google query. If you still can't find any awnsers, then ask here. I'd awnser you now but I'd have to Google it.
[12:07] <shape> DeltaHeavy, what would I gain from doing that? you mean forum threads about peopel having problems?
[12:07] <DeltaHeavy> shape: If there were issues with that card running with your version of Ubuntu it'll pop up.
[12:08] <shape> DeltaHeavy, yeah I actually searched for the issues on google, and tried multiple fixes, even changing xorg.conf, but with no luck.
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> shape: http://xkcd.com/963/
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Could people get it working without performing some sort of rediculous amount of work?
[12:10] <khmerog> YAY!! i succesfully installed Kubuntu alongisde Windows 7...i had to partition the drive first in windows and then format it (sda3) then install kubuntu
[12:10] <manixrock> hey, I'm trying to make a linux image using buildroot-2012.05 (latest version right now), but when I run "make busybox-menuconfig" I get "No rule to make target"
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> shape:  it would have its own grub on the usb
[12:10] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog: Format it with Windows in NTFS or in the Kubuntu installer?
[12:11] <manixrock> more specifically I get: make: *** No rule to make target `busybox-menuconfig'.  Stop.
[12:11] <shape> DeltaHeavy, no, from what Ive seen. Ive searched mainly regarding mouse lag and laggy windows which gave a lot of results
[12:11] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: When executing this command what's your present working directory? Have you tried running './configure'?
[12:11] <khmerog> format it with windows in the disk managment
[12:11] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Then that's probably just an issue.
[12:11] <shape> Dr_Willis, So if I have running Ubuntu with Grub on my PC, the Ubuntu that I install on the flashdrive, will install grub on the flash, and once I remove the flash, the second grub wil lbe gone, correct?
[12:11] <khmerog> this was the weirdest linux install i have ever done... ubuntu 1204 is easy, joliOS, Linux Mint, Lubuntu
[12:12] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog: I highly advise against that but if it's working for you enjoy. Don't be surprized if you see the odd corrupted file here and there.
[12:12] <khmerog> but kubuntu not very simple
[12:12] <NCS_One> hi
[12:12] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: I get: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[12:12] <shape> DeltaHeavy, so, from that comic, the more you open xorg.conf, the better?
[12:12] <manixrock> the current directory is the buildroot folder
[12:12] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: What's your present working directory when executing those commands.
[12:12] <DeltaHeavy> shape: The worse
[12:12] <khmerog> well i will use kubuntu for web browsing since my HD 6870 always crashes in windows 7 while watching windows or a website that uses flash
[12:12] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: hm... what is the default "Standard" user ?
[12:12] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: the current directory is the buildroot folder
[12:12] <khmerog> any downloads i do i will save it onto the Windows 7 drive
[12:13] <lpapp> on an Ubuntu 12.04 installation ?
[12:13] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: What's the output of 'pwd'
[12:13] <shape> DeltaHeavy, oh sorry, yes, that's right
[12:13] <NCS_One> I'm doing a script to open a couple of apps and would like to know how can I say to open an app on a different desk?
[12:13] <lpapp> the problem is that my program works, if I run that from command line, but not from the desktop with a launcher icon due to permission issues....
[12:13] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: /home/myusername/Downloads/buildroot-2012.02
[12:13] <DeltaHeavy> shape: It's not safe to say yet, but it wouldn't be surprizing if you're SOL
[12:14] <shape> DeltaHeavy, what's "SOL"
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Can you pastebin the output of 'ls -la'
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Shit Out of Luck
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:  im not sure what you mean.
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> lpapp: When you run the program in terminal are you using 'sudo'?
[12:15] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: there is an app requiring access to the serial port, so my package's postinst script puts that user into the "dialout" group
[12:15] <shape> DeltaHeavy, the thing is, ATI has the best AGP cards, that would allow me to run hardware acceleration on this old computer (1.6Ghz sempron), So I can watch 1080p movies. :(
[12:15] <lpapp> DeltaHeavy: nope
[12:15] <shape> Dr_Willis, thanks for the suggestion btw! I will probably end up doing the USB thing
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> lpapp: Are you framiliar with 'chmod'?
[12:15] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: here - http://pastebin.com/BYpiZ5vX
[12:16] <DeltaHeavy> shape: They also have terrible linux support, and terrible drivers for Windows to begin with.
[12:16] <lpapp> DeltaHeavy: yes, I used that 15 years ago first
[12:16] <lpapp> what has this to do with chmod ?
[12:16] <orgain> moin
[12:16] <shape> DeltaHeavy, yeah, yet there are users who use them. And I thought I would take the chance.
[12:17] <DeltaHeavy> lpapp: If it's a premissions issue are you sure the files you're trying to execute have proper premissions? You probably already checked that though so idk.
[12:17] <lpapp> DeltaHeavy: really no clue what you mean
[12:17] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: I downloaded those files as an archive from here: http://buildroot.uclibc.org/download.html
[12:17] <melvincv> shape: how about the open source ATI driver that's installed by default? What issues does it have?
[12:17] <lpapp> the process does have access to stuff, if it is run with the user created during the installation.
[12:17] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: the link "buildroot-2012.02.tar.gz "
[12:17] <NCS_One> I'm doing a script to open a couple of apps and would like to know how can I say to open an app on a different desk?
[12:18] <shape> melvincv, no issues, but no hardware acceleration. :(
[12:18] <delete> всем привет
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Try './Config.in' './Makefile' and if that doesn't work pastebin 'ls -la configs' or just mess around in there. If there's no target you probably need to run some sort of shell script in here
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> delete: This is an english channel only.
[12:18] <delete> ok
[12:19] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: the tutorial on this page - http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html#custom_busybox - says to run "make busybox-menuconfig"
[12:19] <delete> we are russian cannel
[12:19] <DJones> !ru | delete If you want a russion channel, there is this
[12:19] <NewWorld> NCS_One:  which window manager are you using?
[12:19] <NCS_One> NewWorld: gnome
[12:19] <NewWorld> NCS_One:  ok then sorry I don't know
[12:20] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: And it's saying there's no target? Try going into the root directory of the source files (the folder the .tar.gz gave you) and just run 'make'.
[12:20] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: when I run "sudo ./Config.in" I get: "sudo: ./Config.in: command not found"
[12:20] <ngomes> whitecrow is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:20] <ngomes> i got this error after upgrade to 12.04
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> so whitecrow was your main admin user?
[12:21] <shape> DeltaHeavy, hey, thanks for your help btw. I really appreciate it. I will end up installing on the USB, and then probably if it doesn't work, just end up using the opensource drivers. Because the card is good. I can play 1080p in windows with this old processor, so I can still watch movies.
[12:21] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: If you're going to use sudo don't include the './'
[12:21] <ngomes> looks like i've writen sudoers conf from maintainer instead of maintain the old one
[12:21] <ngomes> Dr_Willis, yes
[12:21] <melvincv> How come 'no hardware acceleration' for the ATI radeon open source driver. But I get Ubuntu 3D Unity with it.
[12:21] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Not a problem
[12:22] <ngomes> Dr_Willis, any way to recover , this is a VPS
[12:22] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: when I run "sudo Config.in" I get: "sudo: Config.in: command not found"
[12:22] <melvincv> Where to get info on how popular Ubuntu is atm? Like no. of users?
[12:22] <ngomes> i've read some instructions but looks to be for local computer
[12:23] <KingKatari> is there any other place in ubuntu server 12.04 LTS version that controls the total number of connections into a server besides net.core.somaxconn??????????
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> ngomes:  ive never used a VPS so no idea
[12:24] <lpapp> shouldn't the desktop shortcut run the stuff at the Exec line as the currently logged in user ? If yes, Ubuntu messes up stuff since I only created one account while installing this...
[12:24] <oneksen> hellp
[12:24] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: running "make" in the buildroot directory throws these errors - http://pastebin.com/09pg1JTR
[12:24] <ngomes> melvincv, distrowatch.com  , maybe
[12:24] <lpapp> yeah, no other users in /home either, just the lost+found folder.
[12:25] <happy> sorry, if i didnt answer anyone, but i really cannt seperate between the members by any colour
[12:25] <ikonia> manixrock: you're missing dependencies
[12:25] <manixrock> ikonia: how do I know which to install?
[12:25] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Ok now we're getting somewhere. Run 'sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel'
[12:25] <ikonia> manixrock: meet the depencencies
[12:25] <ikonia> manixrock: why are you building this from source ?
[12:25] <manixrock> ok installing now
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:  try running 'xterm' and see what user it is.
[12:26] <manixrock> ikonia: I want to make a tiny linux image
[12:26] <happy> and i thing i am using the online freenode , i mean not an installed software
[12:26] <manixrock> ikonia: am I doing it wrong?
[12:26] <ikonia> manixrock: what do you mean, tiny linux image ?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:  exactly how are you running this stuff?
[12:26] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: in gnome-terminal
[12:26] <lpapp> and run
[12:27] <ikonia> KingKatari: please don't cross-post your questions between here and #ubuntu-server.
[12:27] <lpapp> xterm exactly runs the same obviously as gnome-terminal
[12:27] <lpapp> I do not really see the problem
[12:27] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Do you just want this installed or do you want to compile it from source?
[12:27] <KingKatari> k
[12:27] <manixrock> ikonia: I want to recreate the linux image used in the Javascript PC Emulator - http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:   You run an app from gnome-terminal and it changes users? so if you run xterm from gnome-terminal its now running as what user?
[12:28] <ikonia> manixrock: ok, so this really isn't anything to do with ubuntu
[12:28] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: I think you are overcomplicating this
[12:28] <manixrock> ikonia: I want to re-create (and then modify) this: http://bellard.org/jslinux/vmlinux-2.6.20.bin
[12:28] <lpapp> there is only one user created, stop.
[12:28] <ikonia> manixrock: yeah, I've just read the URL, you're basically creating a linux boot envionment based on the jslinux source/provided data
[12:29] <manixrock> ikonia: yes. am I in the wrong chat room for this?
[12:29] <ikonia> manixrock: yeah, I'd try the guys who build jslinux
[12:29] <ikonia> manixrock: they should be able to walk through issues/problems/questions with you
[12:30] <manixrock> ikonia: it's just a standard busybox built with buildroot as far as I can tell
[12:30] <manixrock> it shouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's used by the Js emulator
[12:31] <ikonia> manixrock: looks like it sure
[12:31] <manixrock> so basically I just want to learn how to use the buildroot thing
[12:31] <ikonia> manixrock: but that's also nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:31] <lpapp> any ideas guys ?
[12:31] <manixrock> ikonia: where should I ask then?
[12:31] <ikonia> manixrock: no idea, the busy box guys ?
[12:32] <manixrock> doesn't anyone here know how to build a binary linux image?
[12:32] <ikonia> manixrock: sure, but it's an ubuntu support channel,
[12:33] <ikonia> manixrock: hence why trying the busybox guys should be a better approach
[12:33] <manixrock> ikonia: how do I find those guys? :)
[12:33] <ikonia> manixrock: read their website for their contact/support information
[12:33] <manixrock> ok
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, how many mount points can Ubuntu have? Like sda, sdb....sdaa...sdaaa, etc
[12:34] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: mount points or partitions
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> mount points
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> for external usb devices, for example
[12:35] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: pretty much as many as you want, (I'm sure there is a limit, but it's something crazy like 25,0000)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  those are device names...
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:   and once ya get past sdz it goes to sdaa and sdab i belive ive read somewhere
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon>  yes i know how it works
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just wanted to know if there was a limit
[12:36] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: a limit you'll never hit
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ive seen them at least 8+ characters..
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> mccblk0p#  for sd cards
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ok
[12:36] <DeltaHeavy> WhereIsMySpoon: There isn't as far as I know. Winblows is the only OS I know if with such a stupid restriction.
[12:36] <ikonia> ooh wait, you mean a limit on the size of the label, or a limit on the number of number of mounts
[12:36] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: it's called "Windows" - please use the proper name
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, well, surely the latter would stem from the former
[12:37] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: no
[12:37] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no, how long a string is, has nothing to do with how many mount points
[12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise you'd get multiple mounts on the same label
[12:37] <DeltaHeavy> Wintendo, Winblow, Internet Exploder
[12:37] <sam1967> my alt-tab is no longer working . any ideas ?
[12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, so what would happen when you reach max string size
[12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> and you tried to mount
[12:38] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: it would just refuse with an error saying "mountpoint name too long" or "volume label too long" something like that
[12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ok then
[12:38] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: basically the mount point is the limit of the file/directory name size
[12:38] <ikonia> I think that's 250 chars or something like that
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, does that include the "/media/" before it ?
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> or wherever you mounted it
[12:39] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no, that would be a path, not a string
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh, i didnt mean media
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> i meant /dev/
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> but whatever
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, so only the "sdxxxx" are counted from the path
[12:40] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: /dev is a device name, not a mount point or a volume label
[12:40] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: you don't need to worry about /dev devices
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
[12:40] <khmerog> does fedora use the same programs/software packages as ubuntu and linux mint?
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, /dev/sd<whatever> is wha ti was talking about
[12:41] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: yes, you don't need to worry about that, it's managed by udev
[12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> if there was a limit to those labels
[12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ? surely there must be a limit on that too
[12:41] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: they are not labels, they are device file and outside your control
[12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> ohh
[12:41] <ikonia> khmerog: core components, yes, put together different/versioned different, sure
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry for the confusion
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> and thanks
[12:42] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: not a problem, it can be confusing
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia,  :D
[12:42] <khmerog> i see
[12:43] <khmerog> basicallt ubuntu, kubuntu, linux mint are all the same but they just look different correct?
[12:43] <pungi-man> with a little difference btw ubuntu and linux mint
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:  linux is all about layers :) think of it as layers of legos forming a house. the layers of the foundation may be the same  or close to the same, but the upper layers can be very differnt.
[12:44] <ikonia> khmerog: bottom line -yes, different desktops, it's more complex but that's the bottom line of it
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> the Desktop/Gui is just one of the many layers the user sees..  like the roof and sideing. ;P
[12:45] <khmerog> ahhh!! very nice explanation/example
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> and Ogres are Like Onions...
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> but the cake is a lie.
[12:45]  * Dr_Willis shuts up now.
[12:45] <NewWorld> xD
[12:46] <khmerog> ive been using linux for about 1 year but never got the technical part of it..i just like the visuals or maybe im just bored of windows
[12:46] <khmerog> how about fedora?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> technically the kernel is 'linux' thats like the big green lego you stick all the others onto
[12:46] <khmerog> i see that fedora also has a KDE version
[12:46] <ikonia> khmerog: what about it ?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> kernel is the kernel.. rest of layers are similer or differnt depending on the disrto. ;)
[12:47] <khmerog> fedora and ubuntu/mint uses the same software managers
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:  last i looked.. mint uses apt-get/apt just like all deb based  disrtos
[12:47] <khmerog> or do they have their own softwares..example K3B burn is it only for ubuntu or is there veryso
[12:47] <khmerog> ok
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> fedora uses RPM  - whish is very differnt
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> same software - differnt package managers...
[12:48] <khmerog> what really confused me is if i want to get the latest release of a software..i go to there website. but there is like 5 different linux versions
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:  stick with the package manager tools..  going to a 'web site' to get software is a windows-type-mindset
[12:49] <NewWorld> khmerog:  Same program and same version of it, just different packages made for different package managers
[12:49] <escott> khmerog, for ubuntu/mint/debian use apt. for redhat/suse use yum but dont download from the web
[12:49] <khmerog> some pages like http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html  is pretty simple but there are others that dont list ubuntu
[12:50] <NewWorld> khmerog:  If it lists others but not Ubuntu, look for a .deb package. Ubuntu can install that
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> sometimes. it can at least. ;)
[12:52] <khmerog> newworld and what app do i use to install the .deb files?
[12:52] <rbrooks> there is many different brands/types of linux...
[12:52] <khmerog> im not good at using terminal yet
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> rbrooks:  differnt 'disrtbutions'
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> !disrto
[12:52] <khmerog> !distros
[12:53] <rbrooks> ok right, but you just have to try some to see
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> distrowatch web site has a decent selection ;)
[12:53] <dkmt> hi~~
[12:54] <pwasek> Does 12.04 have a bug with the smbldap tools.  I notice the configure.pl file is not in the usr/share/docs/smbldap-tools
[12:54] <pwasek> is there a fix for this
[12:54] <pwasek> ?
[12:55] <rbrooks> try them all and download kubuntu, fedora, etc...
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> 'Disrto Of the Month Club'
[12:55] <rbrooks> ooo let me go check that site again
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> then come back to ubuntu... ;)
[12:56] <tuxx-> hi guys, anyone know how i can disable the feature where i have to press spacebar after i've hit a ' or " key before the character actually shows up? :P
[12:56] <rbrooks> linux mint etc...
[12:56] <Sidewinder> Yes, always retutn to ubuntu; it's the friendliest. :)
[12:56] <rbrooks> yes then always back to ubuntu
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> tuxx-:  sounds like some sort of extended character feture. like to make a fancy spanish e with marks bove ie.
[12:57] <tuxx-> Dr_Willis: yeah it does, but i hate it.
[12:57] <tuxx-> Dr_Willis: tried a different keyboard layout (english (USA)), didnt work though
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Im on american english. :) so i dont even thin i have it.
[12:57] <khmerog> so if im using VLC player on kubuntu..and foiund a bug on vlc, well that same bug be on ubuntu and linux mint?
[12:58] <khmerog> and as a developer to fix that bug do they have to fix it for all distros?
[12:58] <khmerog> basically im trying to see if their is a linux os more stable than the other
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:   they fix their code.. disrto makers repackage it.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> updates come to us via package manager..
[12:59] <Sidewinder> khmerog, You can chack launchpad.ore to either report the bug or see if there's a work-around/fix for it.
[12:59] <Sidewinder> check, even.
[12:59] <numbie> has anyone compiled zygrib?
[12:59] <Sidewinder> org, even.;; Early still.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !info zygrib
[13:00] <khmerog> :)
[13:01] <khmerog> distrowatch is a great website :D
[13:01] <numbie> im using lucid and there is only 3.5 , it doesn't fetch the map
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> find a ppa. or use the source i guess.
[13:02] <numbie> i tried to compile but it didnt work
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> first choice would be to find a ppa. ;)
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> but the factits in the repos can make it easier to compile.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get build-deps packagename     'should' pull in all needed dev packages to compile it.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> or was it build-dep
[13:04] <escott> tuxx-, sounds like you have a compose key permanently enabled somehow
[13:04] <Imgdl> Any alternative to BulkImageDownloader,I read soemthing about wget and -l3 but Im totally new to wget usage
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> wget has a few gui front ends also. :)
[13:05] <Imgdl> Hmm google time :D
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search wget
[13:07] <paul83> I noticed that the smbldaptools is missing the configure.pl file in the usr/share/doc/smbldap-tools is this is know bug
[13:07] <Imgdl> Dr_Willis only thing I see that looks like app I need it pwget
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> i use the command line.. rarely for wget
[13:09] <Imgdl> http://www.jensroesner.de/wgetgui/#install   This is just for Windows right? :/
[13:12] <jhona> hola?
[13:14] <ulidtko> hey guys, skype is coredumping on my system, any help?
[13:14] <escott> ulidtko, its closed source there probably isn't much anyone can do
[13:14] <ulidtko> it worked before the upgrade to 12.04
[13:15] <ulidtko> escott: yeah, i understand that
[13:16] <ulidtko> but from various activity in the community (like http://askubuntu.com/q/139279/9061 ) I conclude that it's not a generic problem with skype on ubuntu, but with specifically my system
[13:16] <ulidtko> so i wonder how could i solve that
[13:17] <compdoc> have to go thru the logs and see why how the system sees your devices
[13:18] <numbie> i just cant compile it :/
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> numbie:  and what error do you get when you try?
[13:19] <Imgdl> Any tips how to properly set up wget to use "deeper" search egz. follow links to gallery and dl pics from them
[13:20] <numbie> Dr_Willis,  alot
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Imgdl:  you may want to try some website-mirroring type tool like httrack (i think)
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !info httrack
[13:20] <numbie> Dr_Willis,  how do i qmake ?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> !info qmake
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> No idea on qmake. been ages since id  more then just ./configure   make   sudo make install
[13:21] <Imgdl> Dr_Willis that seems awesome,I just hope its all legal :D
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> go copy google to your pc...
[13:24] <Imgdl> duckduckgo seems more fun
[13:25] <Sidewinder> numbie, You might also want to look at this (although it sounds like you have not gotten that far): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[13:26] <numbie> it wont work
[13:26] <UnixLover> Hello
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> you could pastebin the errors and session so we can see numbie  or check the apps homepage for compile instructions
[13:26] <numbie> there isnt really any instructions
[13:26] <numbie> they say i shall qmake
[13:27] <numbie> but it wont work
[13:29] <OerHeks> numbie there should be a read.me in the source
[13:29] <Imgdl> Dr_Willis Thank you httrack is doing what I need,now time to google best settings for my needs. :)
[13:30] <ulidtko> okay, so the problem with Skype was in my handwritten Apparmor profile
[13:30] <ulidtko> I have removed it, then sudo service apparmor reload, and skype works again
[13:30] <numbie> http://www.zygrib.org/#section_linux   for anyone who wants to try
[13:33] <UnixLover> Anybody have experience with truecrypt?
[13:35] <filo> #v01d
[13:35] <huayra> UnixLover, some. What do you need?
[13:37] <UnixLover> Is it possible to install ubuntu with a already encrypted harddrive
[13:37] <UnixLover> Preboot auth
[13:37] <UnixLover> Becouse I cant get ubuntu to recognize my hardrive partititon
[13:37] <UnixLover> Even tho I decrypted it with truecrypt within ubuntu
[13:38] <OerHeks> numbie, i tried, added the key & repo "deb http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages ubuntu-dha precise" and it is available in synaptic
[13:40] <OerHeks> UnixLover, why would you install ubuntu on a already encrypted hdd ..let ubuntu handle encryption.
[13:40] <josefnpat> UnixLover, check this guy out: https://grepular.com/Protecting_a_Laptop_from_Simple_and_Sophisticated_Attacks
[13:41] <UnixLover> Josef
[13:41] <UnixLover> Bookmarked
[13:41] <UnixLover> Thanks
[13:41] <UnixLover> OerHeks
[13:41] <UnixLover> NL?
[13:41] <FloodBot1> UnixLover: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:41] <OerHeks> yes :-)
[13:42] <UnixLover> Oerheks I wanna do windows dual boot
[13:43] <designbybeck> I forgot what the command was to see how much free space you have on all your HDD drives/usb drives
[13:43] <designbybeck> can anyone refresh my memory ?
[13:44] <UnixLover> Hmmmmm
[13:44] <dontknow> i changed cursor theme as black. but the cursor theme changes black if i go over a link or on any flash video
[13:44] <OerHeks> df -h
[13:44] <designbybeck> there it is!! OerHeks thanks!!
[13:44] <UnixLover> Dontknow
[13:44] <UnixLover> Wich browser are you using
[13:44] <UnixLover> And
[13:44] <dontknow> UnixLover, chromium 18
[13:44] <designbybeck> I was just quizing you OerHeks.... you passed
[13:44] <UnixLover> Sirously why does it matter?
[13:45] <UnixLover> Dontknow?
[13:45] <dontknow> UnixLover, "Sirously why does it matter?" did you asked to me?
[13:45] <UnixLover> Yes.
[13:46] <dontknow> UnixLover, because i want black cursor theme?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> some times not all apps see the new cursor  untill they are restarted, or X is restarted
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> seen it in the past. differnt apps useing differnt cursors
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall kde not having the issue. but the old gnome2 had a similer issue
[13:47] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i restarted of course. the issue is system wide not only in browser
[13:47] <halvors> DeltaHeavy: I'm sure. But it may depend on your IPv6 status. Do you have IPv6 Connectivity?
[13:47] <UnixLover> Did you upgrade yet
[13:48] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, and chromium is still 18 lol
[13:48] <numbie> OerHeks,  mine wont get the gpg
[13:48] <bmoez> QUESTION: what is the best alternative to HandyCofe for ubuntu?
[13:48] <dontknow> OerHeks, you said chromium updates will come, but it is still 18
[13:49] <UnixLover> Dontknow. I know its a stupid suggestion but did you do apt-get update , apt-get upgrade
[13:49] <jcrza> Anyone else use keepass with precise?
[13:49] <dontknow> UnixLover, of course
[13:49] <halvors> Anyone knows how to enable IPv6 in Ubuntu, can only find howto disable it...
[13:49] <MKeigher83> hey all.... i am trying to setup ubuntu to collect snmp data from my network...before i begin...is this possible?
[13:49] <OerHeks> numbie, enter: "  wget http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages/dha-debpackages.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -  "  and then it ask for your password
[13:49] <dontknow> halvors, it is enabled by default
[13:50] <halvors> Nope. Have IPv6 connectivity, when i lookup google.com i get the A record, not the AAAA...
[13:50] <UnixLover> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[13:50] <halvors> I've read that...
[13:50] <tix> why is this happening on my ubuntu vps? http://107.20.237.221/
[13:50] <njin> Hello, terminal and resume from screensaver don't accepting my password, login and tty accept, /etc/sudoers is ok, any hint ?
[13:50] <piezo> tix: what should happen?
[13:50] <jrib> tix: what exactly is your question?
[13:51] <piezo> :) i see only a blog
[13:51] <numbie> OerHeks,  no it doesnt :/
[13:51] <tix> jrib: heh, i just wanted people to visit the URL... i'm testing real-time analytics
[13:51] <tix> like 8 people visited heh
[13:51] <jrib> tix: don't do that.
[13:52] <numbie> well now it worked :/  blah
[13:52] <tix> 6 from the US, 1 from germany, and 1 from ukraine
[13:52] <UnixLover> Lol not risking browser-autopwn xD
[13:52] <piezo> tix: might a reason to kick/ban...dont do that
[13:52] <tix> UnixLover: rofl
[13:52] <dontknow> OerHeks, when will chromium updates come :D ?
[13:52] <MKeigher83> hey all.... i am trying to setup ubuntu to collect snmp data from my network...before i begin...is this possible?
[13:52] <tix> metasploit
[13:52] <UnixLover> Yep
[13:52] <OerHeks> numbie, oke, now update & upgrade
[13:52] <OerHeks> dontknow, dont know, soon.
[13:52] <MKeigher83> is it inbuilt? or what do i need to install to setup it up?
[13:52] <piezo> MKeigher83: with what piece of software?..
[13:53] <piezo> cacti, mrtg, collectd...?
[13:53] <MKeigher83> thats what i want to know.
[13:53] <tix> okay, who came in from boston?
[13:53] <tix> 2 people from boston visited my blog
[13:53] <dontknow> OerHeks, i think you just made it up
[13:53] <MKeigher83> new to snmp and i wanted to know if i could get ubuntu to collect data on my networked devices
[13:53] <compdoc> thats amazing
[13:53] <UnixLover> Mkeigher
[13:53] <jrib> tix: stop discussing it.  It's not about ubuntu support.  And please don't do something like that again
[13:53] <piezo> MKeigher83: maybe collectd or mrtg is a start.
[13:53] <UnixLover> Take a look at Backtrack
[13:53] <tix> jrib: lol
[13:53] <MKeigher83> collect trap
[13:54] <tix> but people clicked
[13:54] <tix> i could have had an exploit pack on there
[13:54] <MKeigher83> backtrack?
[13:54] <MKeigher83> ok
[13:54] <piezo> thx jrib, as i said...
[13:55] <numbie> OerHeks, W: Failed to fetch "the zygrib.deb" Hash Sum mismatch
[13:55] <halvors> Really? Nobody knows how to enable IPv6? Also so Ubuntu prefer that over IPv4?
[13:55] <UnixLover> Halvors. I think there is plenty support online
[13:55] <halvors> Nope...
[13:55] <halvors> Can't find anything.
[13:56] <MKeigher83> whats snmp walk?
[13:56] <piezo> halvors: im online with ipv6 right now speaking to you
[13:56] <halvors> Sure?
[13:56] <MKeigher83> am i on the right track?
[13:56] <piezo> MKeigher83: if you dont know about snmp, read about :) with walk you only can get all data from a mib
[13:56] <halvors> Well, when i surf on Google, doing DNS lookups everything "prefer" IPv4.
[13:56]  * Dr_Willis heard they were waiting for Service pack one for Chromium to come out befor they release updates.......
[13:56] <dontknow> halvors, open network settings, in ipv6 section choose auto
[13:56] <piezo> halvors gai.conf?
[13:56] <MKeigher83> ok
[13:57] <halvors> I can browse IPv6 sites, the problem is that Ubuntu prefer A record over AAAA records...
[13:57] <halvors> gai.conf?
[13:57] <halvors> In /etc?
[13:57] <UnixLover> Any nerdcore lovers on
[13:58] <josefnpat> nerdcore lover?
[13:58] <piezo> halvors: http://pastebin.com/e5kaGA63
[13:58] <piezo> halvors: http://linux.die.net/man/5/gai.conf
[13:58] <josefnpat> UnixLover, I'm a big chiptune fan
[13:58] <UnixLover> What is Chiptune?
[13:58] <halvors> Do i really need to change .conf files for doing this?
[13:59] <halvors> I thought Ubuntu was ahead on Windows with IPv6...
[13:59] <piezo> halvors: try it...dont know if ubuntu prefers it, just using deb :)
[14:01] <josefnpat> UnixLover, what is nerdcore?
[14:01] <josefnpat> UnixLover, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune
[14:01] <josefnpat> And for Nerdcore, do you mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerdcore
[14:01] <UnixLover> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY
[14:01] <Artemis3> UnixLover, tunes produce by a chip?, such as sid 6581? or perhaps music including said tunes?
[14:02] <josefnpat> UnixLover, does music like that have lasting power?
[14:02] <UnixLover> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvGRNu08B4
[14:02] <UnixLover> I'm going tattoo nerdlife on my arm in a month
[14:03] <UnixLover> So I will never stop loving it atleast
[14:03] <josefnpat> Really?
[14:03] <sepoki> Hi, i have to run m program in all files at the folder how can i do it ? my program usage is "java Test *.html"
[14:03] <josefnpat> "I am the warez loder"?
[14:03] <halvors> Think i figured it out, it's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1002454?comments=all
[14:03] <UnixLover> Sepoki be more specific
[14:04] <sepoki> i have a lot of files .html
[14:04] <MKeigher83> ok heres a simple question...how do i stop the prompt that always asks me for my user password when i want to intsall things?? NOT in the terminal that is...just the GUI?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> sepoki:  use the find command, or a bash script
[14:04] <MKeigher83> or if one thing disbales both, then thats fine
[14:04] <sepoki> and i have to execute this program in java using that comando
[14:04] <MKeigher83> im just sick of always typing in ym admin password
[14:04] <UnixLover> Login as user root
[14:04] <UnixLover> MK
[14:04] <MKeigher83> anyway to give my account root privs?
[14:05] <MKeigher83> *workaround
[14:05] <UnixLover> Google
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> if you have sudo rights. then you do have root privs
[14:05] <dontknow> MKeigher83, what do you mean
[14:05] <sepoki> UnixLover, understand it ?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> the sudoers file can have exceptions. check the sudoer docs/examples
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> then it wont ask for the pass for specific programs
[14:06] <UnixLover> Sepoki no
[14:06] <MKeigher83> well wehen i type sudo apt-get install "whatever" i get asked for my password...thats fine...as im in the terminal
[14:06] <UnixLover> Which program do you want to open the files with
[14:06] <UnixLover> mk
[14:06] <UnixLover> If you do sudo su
[14:06] <MKeigher83> but when i doing other things in the GUI...a box pops up prompting for my password
[14:06] <UnixLover> You get root terminal
[14:07] <sepoki> UnixLover, mine program
[14:07] <MKeigher83> ah ok..well thats fine in the terminal! :)
[14:07] <MKeigher83> what about he GUI?
[14:07] <UnixLover> Well you need to run xorg as admin
[14:07] <dontknow> MKeigher83, what king of changes do you do forexample?
[14:08] <UnixLover> sepoki im thinking
[14:08] <MKeigher83> install things on synaptic.
[14:08] <MKeigher83> go to change some system settings
[14:08] <MKeigher83> i just seem to get prompted a lot
[14:08] <sepoki> and the syntax of usage is java Test blabla.html
[14:08] <MKeigher83> i understand security, just anted to disable tat prompt all the time
[14:08] <dontknow> MKeigher83, it is expected behavior asking password when installing something
[14:08] <UnixLover> Sepoki You know that if you use * as a willdcard
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> system settings would be differnt then installing packages.
[14:09] <BrainFrosty> Any small tools that chops up audio files?
[14:09] <UnixLover> java Test *
[14:09] <sepoki> UnixLover, i already tried but didnt  worked
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !info sox
[14:09] <UnixLover> What did it say
[14:09] <dontknow> MKeigher83, don't try to change that
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> BrainFrosty:  try sox
[14:09] <BrainFrosty> Nice Dr_Willis
[14:09] <BrainFrosty> thankz
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> sox is a bit old-skool. so it might not support all file formats
[14:09] <dontknow> !info chromium
[14:09] <dontknow> xD
[14:09] <UnixLover> chromium-browser
[14:10] <UnixLover> Is package name
[14:10] <dontknow> !info chromium-browser
[14:10] <duncan-nz> How do disable assisitive technologies? Can't find that setting in Unity
[14:10] <numbie> this pisses me off
[14:10] <dontknow> ubottu, why is it still 18
[14:10] <dontknow> :D
[14:10]  * Dr_Willis heard they were waiting for Service pack one for Chromium to come out befor they release updates.......
[14:10] <sepoki> UnixLover, nothing just execute in one file
[14:11]  * Dr_Willis ducks
[14:11] <UnixLover> Are you in the folder that contains html files
[14:11] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, what service pack, dont kiding around dude :D
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/112432/chromium-19-for-ubuntu
[14:14] <razelda> I keep getting  a signature error when i try to run updates is there a problem with the ubuntu repository ... by the way i tried thought the CLI and the GUI Updater... I'm also getting the same problem thought the software center
[14:14] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i know that link very well :D where does it say something about service pack
[14:15] <sepoki> UnixLover, yeah
[14:17] <sharp15> is there a way to have the live cds display the boot messages during boot?
[14:18] <UnixLover> f6
[14:18] <UnixLover> I thought it was
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> use the advanced options  and use options like 'noquiet nosplash verbose nomodeset'
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> F5 or F6 i dont recall either
[14:19] <sharp15> ok. thanks.
[14:22] <anton> hs
[14:27] <duncan-nz> anyone know how to disable assistive technology in unity?
[14:28] <somersb3> hi. can anyone help me with VPNC I am getting asked for the third password   "Password for VPN"  after i have topped in group and user password
[14:29] <sepoki> why this didnt work "java ParseHTML *.html"
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> sepoki:  the shell expands that to be  java paresehtml  every.html file.html that.html has.html
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> ;) you get the idea.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> if your app can handle such a list then it would work
[14:31] <sepoki> hum
[14:31] <zatan> hey, how can i remove packgage NAGIOS3 ? I did sudo apt-get remove nagio3 but still in  /etc/
[14:31] <sepoki> it didnt run one-by-one
[14:31] <sepoki> :
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> zatan:  if you mean the settings are there. you should 'purge' not remove
[14:31] <sepoki> ?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> sepoki:  aparently the app cant handle a list of files
[14:32] <sepoki> it doesnt
[14:32] <sepoki> How can i run one-by-one
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> so we are back to using the 'find' command, or some bash construct like i mentioned earlier....
[14:32] <Stramith> Hi
[14:33] <mneptok> sepoki: why not try asking in Java-related channels?
[14:33] <sepoki> mneptok, cause its a shell problem dude
[14:33] <sepoki> i think
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> its a user not knowing how to use the shell problem.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Hmm My browers seems broken.
[14:33] <mneptok> sepoki: no, once that first command"java" gets run, the shell is out of it.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> cant find any find tutorials ;)
[14:35] <Stramith> some women wanting to talk?
[14:35] <mneptok> Stramith: wrong channel.
[14:36] <sepoki> lol
[14:37] <Stramith> mneptok: what would be the channel?
[14:37] <mneptok> Stramith: i don't know.
[14:37] <mneptok> Stramith: but such things are unwelcome here.
[14:38] <Stramith> mneptok: Ok, tku
[14:38] <mneptok> Stramith: de nada
[14:43] <sepoki> Dr_Willis, i didnt find nothing like that
[14:44] <Stramith> .I'm online on the site for ubuntu. how do I figure out the irc network to connect elsewhere?
[14:45] <happy> how can i use bluestack in ubuntu using wine ???
[14:45] <bazhang> happy, check the appdb
[14:45] <bazhang> happy then join #winehq
[14:45] <bazhang> !appdb | happy
[14:48] <fasta> For lots of applications I get: error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:48] <fasta> Ubuntu has no /usr/lib which seems to confuse the linker.
[14:48] <fasta> What's the idea behind that?
[14:51] <namoamitabuddha> does vboxvideo support kms?
[14:52] <sharp15> does ubuntu keep the .deb files somewhere on the hard-drive after install?
[14:52] <randomDude> yes sharp15
[14:52] <EliahKagan> @sharp15 yes, it keeps them in /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:53] <namoamitabuddha> until you do apt-get clen.
[14:53] <namoamitabuddha> clean
[14:53] <EliahKagan> @fasta for liblzma.so.2, you probably just have to install the liblzma2 package
[14:53] <EliahKagan> as for /usr/lib/, Ubuntu certainly does have it ...does your Ubuntu system not have /usr/lib ?
[14:53] <EliahKagan> (that would be bad...)
[14:53] <fasta> EliahKagan: and how do I get it?
[14:53] <sharp15> darn.  that won't work.  nevermind.
[14:53] <fasta> EliahKagan:  apt-get install liblzma2 => not found
[14:54] <EliahKagan> @fasta what Ubuntu release are you running?
[14:54] <fasta> EliahKagan: ah, right, it does have it.
[14:54] <fasta> EliahKagan: I mean /usr/lib
[14:54] <fasta> EliahKagan: still no lzma
[14:54] <sharp15> i have a machine with a bad network card that i need to use for something.  was going to copy the .deb files between machines.  problem.  one machine is 64bit the other is 32 bit.
[14:55] <Linux_user> Is this safe setting for UFW? (Windows user here so Im kinda used to a different firewalls) http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1290/201205251648551024x768s.png
[14:55] <fasta> Linux_user: firewalls don't create secure systems.
[14:56] <fasta> Linux_user: correct code and defined security policies create secure systems.
[14:56] <Linux_user> few ports scans dont show any open ports but still
[14:57] <Linux_user> fasta you realize I dont have a clue what you are talking about right?
[14:58] <sharp15> Linux_user: he means choosing well written and properly configured systems will secure something more effectively than a firewall.
[14:58] <escott> Linux_user, (a) you shouldnt need to specify outbound open ports, (b) why are you allowing tcp and udp on 6881, surely bittorrent is tcp only (c) resize your window to keep the posted images family friendly
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> http://pastebin.com/GcYy4Zt3 <-- pls help
[14:59] <Linux_user> Thx escott ,and pardon for that :D
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> ops
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> sorry
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> wrong window
[14:59] <fasta> Linux_user: if that's the case, then perhaps you shouldn't ask how to setup a firewall.
[14:59] <fasta> EliahKagan: is it in multi-verse or whatever it is that Ubuntu calls it?
[15:00] <fasta> ,liblzma2
[15:00] <sharp15> is there a way to have apt create a list of urls/files it wants downloaded to install something so i can do it on another machine using wget or something?
[15:00] <Linux_user> fasta that is your opinion ,nvm escott helped me on that subject.Bye
[15:00] <miles_> Hello
[15:00] <EliahKagan> @fasta sorry of you already said this, but what release of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:00] <bazhang> !clone | sharp15
[15:00] <fasta> EliahKagan: Precise
[15:01] <miles_> Issue: since a power failure while the computer was running, X can't start anymore on my machine
[15:01] <miles_> What can I do?
[15:01] <bazhang> sharp15, or use aptoncd if the arch is the same
[15:01] <bazhang> !aptoncd | sharp15
[15:02] <EliahKagan> fasta: liblzma2 is no longer provided in Precise :-(
[15:02] <hudnix> Can someone tell me how to get vuze icon to be visible in the panel in gnome?
[15:02] <fasta> EliahKagan: but there are still applications dependent on it.
[15:02] <fasta> EliahKagan: Ubuntu would have known this if they had executed every application at least one.
[15:02] <fasta> EliahKagan: once*
[15:02] <EliahKagan> what applications are giving the errors saying they need liblzma.so.2 ?
[15:02] <elisa> Bonjour!
[15:03] <sharp15> bazhang: i'm not trying to clone.  i have a machine with a bad network card and someone who wants to use it to edit the occaisional word file (no need for the net).
[15:03] <hudnix> After upgrading, whenever I start vuze it is invisible because it starts minimized to the panel.
[15:03] <bazhang> !fr | elisa
[15:03] <fasta> EliahKagan: hmm, I think it was my environment. Never mind.
[15:03] <bazhang> sharp15, aptoncd then perhaps
[15:03] <elisa> Sorry i haven't seen
[15:03] <Shred00> what has to happen to get the upload of changelogs to the changelog server to actually be reliable?
[15:04] <Shred00> where do i file a request/bug about this?
[15:04] <EliahKagan> fasta: yeah, when a project is built on Launchpad, the build should fail if it depends on any shared libraries that are not packaged
[15:04] <y0om4> is there a way to mv over existing files without using copy -Ru because cp -Ru would not do if you have limited space on a hard drive
[15:04] <JeroenDeDauw> Can anyone recommend a good VM to run Windows in when running Ubuntu? Stuff associated with Oracle gets automatically disqualified from being good ofc :)
[15:05] <EliahKagan> JoroenDeDauw: if you're willing to use proprietary software, in my experience VMware tends to outperform VirtualBox considerably
[15:05] <sharp15> bazhang: unfortunately.  this machine is 32bit and every other machine i own is 64bit.
[15:05] <fasta> JeroenDeDauw: I am not aware of anything which qualifies
[15:06] <JeroenDeDauw> :/
[15:06] <fasta> JeroenDeDauw: qemu-kvm does run it, but not with high-end graphics.
[15:06] <EliahKagan> VMware Workstation is proprietary payware but VMware Player is proprietary "freeware" and there are third party tools for creating empty VMs you can start with
[15:06] <EliahKagan> depending on your needs, Xen (which is free open source software) may work as well or better than VMware
[15:07] <EliahKagan> but if you're looking for something like VirtualBox but technically better, IMO VMware Workstation fits the bill
[15:07] <fasta> JeroenDeDauw: virtualbox is GPL.
[15:07] <JeroenDeDauw> EliahKagan: fasta: ok, thnx :)
[15:07] <EliahKagan> @fasta it's an Oracle product though so presumably JeroenDeDauw does not want to use it
[15:07] <escott> fasta, but it has been touched by the oracle demon whose powers extend to destroy licenses... oh wait nevermind they lost to google
[15:08] <Netheril>  Hello
[15:08]  * sandyd go vmware!
[15:08]  * sandyd hides
[15:08] <EliahKagan> from a perspective of staying free though, VirtualBox is FOSS, and VMware is not...
[15:08] <EliahKagan> i'm not trying to dis VMware, i use it regularly, but if you want FOSS then virtualbox is a better call
[15:09] <tattoli_> he wants a vm guys not a software license
[15:09] <EliahKagan> hi Netheril
[15:14] <Star2012> is there a network admin here .. msg me plz
[15:14] <Star2012> network/server person
[15:14] <Netheril> Hi master
[15:15] <hairydog> found the coolest theme ever
[15:15] <hairydog> mac osx lion theme for ubuntu
[15:15] <hairydog> really sweet
[15:15] <mohtadi> hi everyone, i've a question please, i'm building my own kernel to get a custom os, i'm trying to make a 3G key work on it, for that i've to use usb_modeswitch , to switch from mass storage mode to modem mode and get the key on ttyUSB , the problem is that after launching  usb_switchmode, i get nothing on a ttyUSB, apparently it's a kernelconfig problem, does anyone know what should activate, include as a module and deactivate?
[15:15] <amh345> i've been trying to configure a session timeout in sshd_config, but no matter what i do it wont timeout.   here is what i have ClientAliveInterval 3   ClientAliveCountMax 1   is it possible im missing something? i dont see why it wont work.
[15:15] <bazhang> hairydog, avoid it
[15:15] <hairydog> why
[15:15] <hairydog> it's awesome
[15:15] <bazhang> hairydog, it breaks your system , is unsupported
[15:15] <hairydog> already using it and I love it
[15:16] <hairydog> no it doesn't lol
[15:16] <hairydog> I've been using it just fine
[15:16] <Onixs> On average rig, how long would it to backup a 1TB of data on another hd
[15:16] <bazhang> hairydog, thats fine, its unsupported.
[15:16] <hairydog> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/mac-os-x-lion-for-ubuntu-1204-precise.html
[15:16] <hairydog> ^ that one?
[15:16] <hairydog> it just uses compiz, ubuntu tweak, and cairo dock
[15:16] <bazhang> hairydog, lets stay on topic for supported issues please
[15:17] <bazhang> Star2012, see your PM
[15:17] <hairydog> bazhang,  are we talking about the same theme at http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/mac-os-x-lion-for-ubuntu-1204-precise.html
[15:17] <hairydog> ^ that one is unsupported?
[15:17] <cccangel> Hey guys I am having an opengl crash with Ubuntu 12.04 intel drivers.  I have vmware workstation and every time I acheive aero with opengl through driconf, ubuntu freezes completely.  Its there a easy way to get an older/newer driver for intel graphics in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:18] <ZenMaster> I want to upgrade to 12.04 but I am afraid it is going to break stuff.
[15:18] <ZenMaster> :D
[15:19] <cccangel> I know i had this working in Ubuntu 11.10 intel drivers...
[15:20] <Toph2> ZenMaster,,, the 12.04 upgrade is the first in the last 3 that didn't break things for me
[15:20] <hairydog> can I login to my yahoo account on empathy?
[15:21] <escott> hairydog, just select accounts, select yahoo, put the email address and password in
[15:22] <[pq]> hello. I've got some problem having DKMS build nvidia-current kernel module on 3.2.0-24-generic (ubuntu precise). Anyone can help me fix that?
[15:23] <poire21> Hi, my first time here. Can't login to my Ubuntu 12.04 setup, seems to be a problem with video. Thought maybe the update to Xorg...
[15:23] <EliahKagan> ZenMaster: you may want to try 12.04 LTS out on a live CD/DVD or USB flash drive, before upgrading to it
[15:24] <sandyd> poire21: why can't you login? Password not accepting? screen not turning on?
[15:24] <amh345> is there something about my sshd_config question that prevents a response? i only ask because i've posed the question about 6 times in the last 24 hrs. heh
[15:24] <escott> amh345, probably because people dont know
[15:24] <poire21> Screen turns on, but instead of the usuall login screen (with familiar wallpaper) I get a terminal-esque screen stating the name of my computer and asking for my login (username) and then my password
[15:25] <ant0neo> anyone any idea Y I cannot log in 2 youtube on this machine after the latest updates?? I use ubuntu 10.04 LTS my other machine that has'nt been updated yet has'nt got this issue or AM I way off the mark in my consideration HERE??
[15:25] <amh345> escott: hmm. that's possible. i thought it would have been standard fare.
[15:25] <sandyd> poire21: Looks like Xorg died. What video card you using?
[15:25] <amh345> perhaps people dont ssh in very often
[15:25] <hairydog> escott, where do I select accounts at?
[15:26] <EliahKagan> Onixs: transfer rate from one drive to another depends on the drive speed (speed of the interface, drive's rotational speed if it's a traditional disk rather than SSD; and the speed supported by the drive's electronics), as well as the filesystem, whether you're copying a few big files or many smaller files, and whether or not you're using any kind of compression or encryption
[15:26] <escott> hairydog, from the contacts list edit->accounts
[15:26] <sandyd> poire21: you installed any proprietary drivers
[15:26] <jacobpc-8917> H
[15:26] <sandyd> poire21: from the additional drivers (jockey) thingy
[15:26] <EliahKagan> an extremely vague estimate for transfer rate is that it will probably be between 10 MB/s and 30 MB/s
[15:26] <poire21> I have an AMD Radeon 6870 1GB
[15:26] <hairydog> oh ok I found it thank you escott
[15:26] <mohtadi> hi everyone, i've a question please, i'm building my own kernel to get a custom os, i'm trying to make a 3G key work on it, for that i've to use usb_modeswitch , to switch from mass storage mode to modem mode and get the key on ttyUSB , the problem is that after launching  usb_switchmode, i get nothing on a ttyUSB, apparently it's a kernelconfig problem, does anyone know what should activate, include as a module and deactivate?
[15:26] <EliahKagan> could well be much higher with SSD's though or much lower if you back up to a share over a slow network
[15:26] <poire21> Yes I had Catalyst installed from AMD
[15:27] <poire21> I had installed directly from AMD site
[15:27] <sandyd> poire21: ah.
[15:27] <sandyd> poire21: there is the problem.
[15:27] <sandyd> poire21: the one on the site does not rebuild whenever you update to a new kernel.
[15:27] <poire21> worked great, I simply rebooted after an update, which I seem to recall included Xorg
[15:27] <hairydog> saying authentication failed :(
[15:28] <poire21> oh... crappy
[15:28] <EliahKagan> for 1 TB of data, 10 MB/s takes about 28 hours, and 30 MB/s takes about 9 hours
[15:28] <sandyd> poire21: you need to remove the driver you installed, and reconfigure xorg
[15:28] <sandyd> poire21: Ill send you a wiki page on how to do that
[15:28] <poire21> Thank you so much!
[15:29] <Toph2> when I boot, I get the message,'Network Service discovery disabled. Your current network has a local......'. Is this a problem?
[15:30] <sandyd> poire21: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[15:32] <[pq]> hello. I've got some problem having DKMS build nvidia-current kernel module on 3.2.0-24-generic (ubuntu precise). Looks like there is some problem detecting configured headers. Anyone can help me fix that?
[15:32] <poire21> sandyd: so I have not worked in that mode before; should I just type the commands on the terminal-esque screen (after I input my login), or should I go to recovery mode
[15:33] <sandyd> poire21: Their the same
[15:33] <EliahKagan> poire21: you should just be able to run those commands in a Terminal window
[15:33] <EliahKagan> you can even paste them in
[15:33] <unkn-error> hello
[15:33] <EliahKagan> if you don't have a GUI
[15:33] <EliahKagan> then you can run them in a virtual console
[15:33] <unkn-error> I connected to the server with putty and run tasksel
[15:34] <unkn-error> and I have this pink screen http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/main/5/14502210258.jpg
[15:34] <unkn-error> it is normal to be pink?
[15:34] <poire21> sandyd: Thank you so much for your help! Hopefully you won't see me here again in a few minutes ;-)
[15:34] <EliahKagan> unkn-error: yes
[15:34] <sandyd> poire21: your welcome :)
[15:35] <sandyd> I had a LED monitor when that purple screen flashed on. hurt my eyes so badly lol
[15:35] <unkn-error> wierd in tuorial is blue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[15:35] <EliahKagan> if the command-line is pink before or after, that's weird, but it's normal for package management interfaces in Ubuntu that use ncurses to be pink/purple
[15:35] <qubuntu> when i started ubuntu i saw a "could not write byte: broken pipe" lol. should i be worried? :D
[15:36] <EliahKagan> ive seen it both colors in different versions of Ubuntu and other Debian-based OSes
[15:36] <unkn-error> I belived that is because of some putty settings
[15:36] <EliahKagan> that makes sense -- sometimes i work via SSH, and sometimes not
[15:37] <EliahKagan> qbuntu: unless you're having other errors, i wouldn't worry about that -- i've seen that message when first booting up a number of times on different machines, without problems
[15:37] <unkn-error> okay then
[15:39] <Advertising> please help !!!!!!!!!! http://www.kidsmag.ro /// is this real about ubuntu !? VIRUS free or not ?!
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[15:39] <FloodBot1> Advertising: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <Advertising> please help !!!!!!!!!! http://www.kidsmag.ro /// is this real about ubuntu !? VIRUS free or not ?!
[15:40] <Advertising> anyone?
[15:40] <Myrtti> Advertising: stop it.
[15:41] <sweb> is any good script to create standard zone and reverse zone files on ubuntu/debian ?
[15:47] <pravi> hello
[15:47] <Unknown0BC> Hi, in oneiric when trying to use phpMyAdmin I get : Cannot start session without errors, please check errors given in your PHP and/or webserver log file and configure your PHP installation properly.
[15:47] <pravi> anyone pls help
[15:47] <Sidewinder> !ask | pravi
[15:48] <jacobpc-8917> !patience
[15:48] <pravi> battery detection problem in toshiba
[15:49] <escott> pravi, there are various acpi options to the kernel you can try
[15:49] <pravi> tried someone but not successful
[15:50] <pravi> anyone have any idea
[15:50] <mneptok> pravi: LiveCD of another distro will tell you if this is a general kernel issue with that laptop.
[15:51] <pravi> mneptok tried many versions but same problem
[15:51] <phunyguy> is there a command line ALAC encoder to go from FLAC to ALAC in ubuntu? Ormaybe a dbpoweramp alternative?
[15:52] <phunyguy> (one that maintains 24bit audio unlike ffmpeg)
[15:52] <mneptok> pravi: then the Linux kernel itself is the problem. it is not Ubuntu specific. file bugs at kernel.org or use Ubuntu's bug system (launchpad.net) to report issues
[15:53] <unkn-error> I have this problem, and It seems that I can not resolve it
[15:53] <unkn-error> " W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192 "
[15:53] <unkn-error> I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890&page=3
[15:53] <unkn-error> but it dosen't fix it
[15:53] <escott> unkn-error, use apt-ket to add the key from the keyserver.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <escott> unkn-error, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192
[15:54] <kleewyck> I have a ltsp server running Ubuntu 11.10 and my clients seem to work just fine. When update to 12.04 I have no audio on my clients. Anyone had this issue?
[15:56] <unkn-error> escott: so, the command will be sudo apt-get add http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192 ?
[15:56] <Sidewinder> !rootirc > Guest10073
[15:56] <escott> unkn-error, save that key (if you trust it you should verify) to a file and then run sudo apt-key add filename.pub
[15:57] <moes> Opened parted and recieved the following error: Unallocated partition table..invalid partition table on /dev/sda wrong signature 5954..This is my Ubuntu-10.04 partition.Any fix ??
[15:58] <moes> *gparted
[15:58] <escott> moes, best bet is probably to build a new partition table that matches the old one EXACTLY
[15:58] <escott> moes, and verify the disk isn't failing by checking the smart status
[15:58] <jacoman> h
[15:58] <klync> i have an nfs export with 'root_squash' option on the server, mounted on the client via autofs. i had to change a user's numeric uid and gid, which i did on both ends, but now the export shows up as nobody:nogroup. can't figure out what i'm missing. restarted nfs on the server and autofs on the client, but still not luck. ideas?
[15:59] <unkn-error> so that will be, cd /home/wolfy/Downloads && wget http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192 && sudo apt-key filename
[15:59] <markdtxt> Hi guys, i recently installed lmms on U.E 2.7 but the sound is not fuctioning. Please help.
[15:59] <escott> unkn-error, basically
[15:59] <GeekSquid> unkn-error: you will have to strip the header from that file
[16:00] <moes> escott, I checked smart data and have one bad sector and alsoreallocated sector count warning
[16:00] <jacobpc-8917> //msg nickserv identify jacoman treescape8917
[16:01] <escott> jacobpc-8917, time to change the password
[16:01] <GeekSquid> jacobpc-8917: one less shash
[16:01] <jacobpc-8917> les
[16:01] <jacobpc-8917> yes
[16:01] <NSNO> oh wow
[16:01] <unkn-error> hm http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006603/
[16:02] <escott> unkn-error, there is a & in the URL. it is not quoted or escaped so it backgrounded the first bit prior to the &
[16:03] <GeekSquid> unkn-error: goto http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16126D3A3E5C1192 and copy the text starting with -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- to a text file and save it to key.pub and use that file
[16:03] <cdavis> I am using byobu and when I cannot resize the pane to fit my window after using a virt-terminal. the screen is padded with "."
[16:03] <escott> unkn-error, it would be easier to just open the browser and copy and paste the keyblock. its ascii armored so you wont hurt it
[16:03] <cdavis> F5 doesn't resize the pane either
[16:04] <unkn-error> I am connected with ssh to the server, so only cli
[16:04] <GeekSquid> unkn-error:  use nano, you can still paste using Ctrl-Shift-V
[16:05] <unkn-error> good point!
[16:05] <persona24> How can I have mutliple workspaces in KDE?
[16:07] <moes> escott, http://pastebin.com/B0psRgRf...data from fdisk -l I don't know what the qnx4.x entry is ..that partition was my swap file
[16:08] <unkn-error> GeekSquid escott worked! :)
[16:08] <GeekSquid> moes: that is a bad link
[16:09] <escott> moes, you might want to use testdisk to verify your partition table
[16:09] <escott> moes, but its going to be hard for us to make any kind of recommendation regarding a corrupted mbr
[16:09] <persona24> How can I have multiple workspaces in KDE?
[16:10] <jagan_> hmmmmmmmmm
[16:11] <kirkland> cdavis: then you have another window or user connected to the session elsewhere, with a smaller terminal
[16:11] <kirkland> cdavis: kill off that connection or user, and you'll be full screen again
[16:15] <moes> escott, Would Super fdisk-1.0 also be an option
[16:16] <GVolkmann> Hi all. I have a problem with Gnome3 crashing, appears to be something in the configuration. How do I completely delete a user profile for Gnome3 in 12.04?
[16:16] <cdavis> kirkland: yep, doh on my part. thanks
[16:16] <escott> moes, dont know that tool, but something that scans the disk for superblocks to identify where filesystems begin and end would be advisable
[16:16] <moes> escott, Thanks for the info
[16:18] <sfears> GVolkmann: create a new user and delete the home folder of the one that's having problems
[16:18] <sfears> make sure you backup all your documents
[16:18] <sfears> or just delete all the .folders GVolkmann
[16:19] <Riccardo> !list
[16:19] <unkn-error> how can I shut down the system? " halt " command will just "halt" the os, not power off the hardware
[16:19] <GVolkmann> sfears: yeah, I was affraid the answer was the hard way :( a bit of the baby is going out with the bath watter
[16:20] <sfears> GVolkmann: before you delete anything
[16:20] <sfears> GVolkmann: create a new user, log into it and see if it fixes your problem... if it does, it's something in your home folder.  if the new user doesn't fix it, it's something on the system side
[16:21] <GVolkmann> sfears: good idea.
[16:25] <djszapi> hey, what is the name of the kernel package on ubuntu ?
[16:25] <djszapi> I would like to reinstall the kernle.
[16:25] <djszapi> kernel, even.
[16:26] <djszapi> is it kernel-image ?
[16:26]  * djszapi has no clue...
[16:26] <sfears> you wouldn't really reinstall the kernel djszapi, you could upgrade it
[16:26] <nelson777br> hello, I'm having problems with 12.04 video drivers. how can I active nouveau driver ? it is loading some generic driver ("renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)")
[16:26] <djszapi> sfears: nope
[16:26] <djszapi> sfears: I would like to reinstall it
[16:26] <djszapi> since it behaves weird after an sdcard clone.
[16:27] <djszapi> so what is the kernel package name ?
[16:27] <nelson777br> I want to restore to the default after instalation video configuration
[16:27] <sfears> linux-image
[16:27] <sfears> is you don't know what the package is called what makes you think it's the kernel causing issues djszapi?
[16:28] <nelson777br> hello, I'm having problems with 12.04 video drivers. how can I active nouveau driver ? it is loading some generic driver ("renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)"). I want to restore to the default after instalation video configuration
[16:29] <sfears> nelson777br: use the "restricted drivers" package
[16:30] <sfears> nelson777br: "additional drivers"
[16:32] <escott> nelson777br, that is nouvea
[16:33] <nelson777br> escott: "renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)" is nouveau ?
[16:35] <escott> nelson777br, i believe so
[16:36] <djszapi> sfears: please do not troll :)
[16:36] <nelson777br> Can anyone confirm "renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)" is nouveau ?
[16:36] <nelson777br> I mean, how can I check nouveau driver is active ?
[16:37] <Guest16630> turkce bılen varmı acaba
[16:38] <jobinar> Are there any drivers for touchpad in Ubuntu, since my touchpad has stopped working suddenly in the evening today. I don't remember having installed any drivers since i installed 11.10
[16:38] <meharzada> hello
[16:38] <escott> nelson777br, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/MesaDrivers
[16:38] <meharzada> how can i get authanticaton password
[16:38] <meharzada> ?
[16:39] <escott> meharzada, password for what
[16:39] <madwill> Can anybody point to a low footprint stripped down ubuntu i could use
[16:39] <madwill> i need low memory and no usual services
[16:39] <meharzada> to insstall any application on note book
[16:39] <escott> !minimal | madwill
[16:40] <escott> !root | meharzada does this answer your question
[16:40] <madwill> thanks
[16:40] <meharzada> there  is user authantication password requierd  m not geting it
[16:41] <unkn-error> linux-image-server work's also on latop?
[16:41] <unkn-error> I am using a laptop as a server
[16:41] <escott> meharzada, if your password doesnt work then you are not an admin. is this your own machine?
[16:41] <meharzada> what is user authantication password in 10.10 ?
[16:41] <meharzada> yea
[16:41] <unkn-error> if I will install linux-image-server will wifi gonna work?
[16:42] <Logos01> Halloa! The 12.04 Ubuntu release's NetworkManager seems to be using dnsmasq on the local machine for dns setup. Is there a decent resource for configuring this?
[16:42] <oCean> meharzada: the sudo password is your own (user) password
[16:42] <meharzada> escott its mine
[16:42] <Logos01> (I want to set up a '--server=' flag to that instance.)
[16:42] <oCean> meharzada: also, please note that 10.10 is end of life since april
[16:42] <Logos01> unkn-error: There's no reason it shouldn't.
[16:42] <meharzada> o cean its not working
[16:42] <Logos01> unkn-error: However, you can validate this by installing the package and checking for the modules within it before rebooting to it.
[16:42] <oCean> meharzada: does it work when you use it in a terminal?
[16:43] <unkn-error> how do I check the modules?
[16:43] <oCean> meharzada: so on a terminal prompt, running   sudo -i   works with your own password?
[16:43] <meharzada> i diddent check it ocean
[16:43] <duncan-nz> NEW: how do I disable assistive technology?
[16:44] <meharzada> kindly can you tell me how it will b resolv
[16:44] <escott> meharzada, what is the output of the "groups" command on the comman line
[16:44] <oCean> meharzada: please try it in a terminal first, so we know you are using the correct password
[16:45] <nelson777br> escott: thnx!
[16:45] <splnet> How do I gracefully stop X from ? I've tried init 3.
[16:45] <splnet> s/stop X from/stop X/
[16:45] <escott> splnet, (a) you are by default at runlevel 2 and 2-5 are all the same. (b) sudo service lightdm stop
[16:45] <Logos01> unkn-error: modprobe -S {proper kernel version number} {modulename}
[16:46] <yggdrasil> good day, i have a lenovo w510 with 12.4 and i cant get my secondary display working ..anyone have suggestions ?
[16:46] <Logos01> unkn-error: Correction... modprobe -S {kernel-version} -n {modulename}
[16:46] <meharzada> how can i use  terminal . m new on ubnntu
[16:46] <sfears> yggdrasil: have you looked in the display control panel?
[16:47] <Logos01> You'll have to figure out the module name for yourself but if it's an Intel driver it's likely iwlagn; if it's Atheros it's ath
[16:47] <splnet> escott: ok thanks
[16:47] <yggdrasil> sfears: yes, it doesnt show up there.
[16:47] <yggdrasil> only the internal display is there.
[16:47] <Logos01> Anybody -- resources for modifying config of dnsmasq used by NetworkManager?
[16:47] <oCean> meharzada: you are new, but you are using release 10.10?
[16:48] <sfears> look on your f1-f12 keys. is there a logo of a display on any of them? you may have to use the fn or ctrl key to turn on the secondary monitor.  laptops disable by default to save power
[16:48] <meharzada> yea
[16:48] <racar_> Hello folks,  i installed 12.04 and i have an issue. Sometimes the window menu ( at the top left ) , when i mouse over  the main level is displaying but not the second one. Its doing the same thing for all my window. Any idea ?
[16:48] <oCean> meharzada: please use a more recent version (12.04 is latest) Version 10.10 is end of life and no longer supported
[16:48] <yggdrasil> sfears: yea tried that too..
[16:48] <meharzada> can i upgrade it
[16:48] <meharzada> ?
[16:48] <sfears> yggdrasil: have you looked in the additional drivers application to make sure you have non-generic drivers installed?
[16:48] <oCean> meharzada: yes, but fresh install is much easier
[16:49] <oCean> meharzada: it's a long way from 10.10 to 12.04
[16:49] <djszapi> oCean: why ?
[16:49] <oCean> djszapi: why what
[16:49] <djszapi> I can upgrade a more years old archbox without any issues
[16:49] <djszapi> to the new system...
[16:49] <yggdrasil> sfears: yes, i have loaded the two different versions that are presented to me in the additional drivers and rebooted with both. no go :(
[16:49] <meharzada> ok nice but how can i resolve the issue which i m facing
[16:49] <yggdrasil> ive googled and cant seem to find anything either.
[16:50] <AcidRain2012> my ubuntu radio stream has streamed almost 20,000 songs :)
[16:51] <escott> meharzada, start by opening a terminal and typing "sudo echo success[ENTER]" and see if it prints success after you type in your password
[16:51] <keen_> Hi, is anyone familiar with the ban process on irc.icq.com? I am trying to sign in and it tells me I'm banned and I cannot make any sense of it...
[16:51] <meharzada> how can i check the terminal
[16:51] <meharzada> ?
[16:51] <oCean> djszapi: ubuntu does not always have direct upgrade paths
[16:51] <oCean> meharzada: your version is too old, the repositories (software) is no longer available
[16:51] <sfears> yggdrasil: what video card are you using?
[16:52] <oCean> meharzada: so, FIRST install a new version THEN come ask for support
[16:52] <yggdrasil> mmm
[16:52] <yggdrasil> its some nvidia
[16:52] <L3tops> Ok, so after upgrading through from 1004 to 1204, my the only issues I encountered were flashplugin nomenclature breaking the upgrade to oneiric, and asterisk issues... which I got around... now in 1204 my dash home appears to be deaf dumb and blind to any applications I have. Nothing I type in there returns any results, and there are no defaults in there... filters set to all. Any ideas?
[16:52] <sfears> and your desktop effects are working properly yggdrasil?
[16:52] <yggdrasil> let me check.
[16:53] <yggdrasil> sfears: yea everything works fine, except im trapped on the lapto pscreen.
[16:53] <L3tops> yggdrasil: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[16:53] <yggdrasil> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [Quadro FX 880M] (rev a2)
[16:53] <yggdrasil> its a lenovo w510
[16:53] <BA707> Just successfully upgraded v10.04 to v12.04 LTS by following the upgrade instructions on the doc page (link provided here, Thank You trism).  No evident problems with the Intel i810 video chipset, unless you count lagging response.  VERY slow...
[16:54] <L3tops> can I get the same with the -nn in there please?
[16:54] <uskerine> hi, how can i modify the application list in unity FOR ALL USERS (like removing the Dash board icon from /usr/share/unity-2d/shell/launcher
[16:54] <uskerine> =
[16:54] <Slakkan> #Hello
[16:54] <sfears> yggdrasil: in the display control panel is there a second monitor picture displayed at all?  are you 100% that the 2nd monitor is plugged in? does it say no signal?
[16:54] <meharzada> ok thanks bye
[16:54] <yggdrasil> it is plugged in
[16:55] <splnet> How do I display the grub boot screen on boot?
[16:55] <yggdrasil> and if i close the lid when i turn it on, the initial bio screen appears on the external display until... x loads i believe.
[16:55] <L3tops> splnet: press shift a few times during boot
[16:55] <yggdrasil> yes, i am positibe its not there, just checked
[16:55] <yggdrasil> \\]
[16:56] <splnet> L3tops: thanks.
[16:56] <L3tops> yggdrasil: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you have one... which I think you will need to run dual monitors)
[16:56] <splnet> What does ubuntu use instead of inittab? /etc/inittab doesn't seem to exist
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> for some odd reason i cant left click on my desktop
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> or any files in any folder
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> how do i fix this?
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> i cant even left click on the channels
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> i can only left click on the bottom bar, and top bar
[16:57] <yggdrasil> L3tops: sure give me a minute
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> everything else is right click only
[16:58] <AcidRain2012> eh.... ill just restart
[16:59] <uskerine> hi, where is the configuration file to select which applications are displayed for new users in the panel?
[17:00] <yggdrasil> L3tops: http://pastebin.ca/2153985
[17:00] <L3tops> that would be your problem yggdrasil
[17:01] <L3tops> yggdrasil: ctrl alt f2, then: sudo service lightdm stop; sudo nvidia-xconfigure
[17:01] <yggdrasil> indeed.
[17:02] <yggdrasil> one sec.
[17:02] <yggdrasil> i have to take acare of a bit of gui work.
[17:03] <L3tops> I do not know how to fix dash home in 1204 if it cannot display or find anything. Would appreciate some help (upgraded here from 1004)
[17:04] <Wizard> L3tops: Do same problem ocurr in Unity-2d?
[17:04] <L3tops> Excellent question... I am sort of a KDE guy... where do I change that Wizard?
[17:05] <Slakkan> I'm trying to install LinuxMint. Im partitioning the drive for 50gb. When it asks for mount point do i choose / or /boot to put it on the boot loader?
[17:05]  * L3tops is really sort of a terminal guy
[17:05] <L3tops> !mint | Slakkan
[17:05] <Wizard> You have to log out and change session in login manager :)
[17:05] <guntbert> !upstart | splnet
[17:05] <L3tops> ty Wizard.
[17:05] <L3tops> BRB
[17:05] <yggdrasil> L3tops: i am too.
[17:05] <yggdrasil> i just happen to by tryign to get some work done here :)
[17:06] <yggdrasil> You will see this irssi session does not disconnet; )
[17:06] <yggdrasil> give me a few i gotta work.
[17:06] <yggdrasil> you going to be around for a bit ?
[17:06] <Wizard> Who?
[17:06] <yggdrasil> L3tops:
[17:06] <Wizard> L3tops: Is here pretty often.
[17:07] <Wizard> He said BRB, so prolly he'll be here :D
[17:07] <bhull05> Hello. I'm having an issue while attempting to format a laptop into ubuntu. I have tried using a USB flash drive and a CD and I encounter the same issue, after the installation process commences the screen freezes for 2 minutes and I get a screen of black and white horizontal bars frozen permanently until a forced reboot. Help anyone?
[17:07] <guntbert> yggdrasil: please take it easy on the <enter> key :), and it usually helps all if you put the nick of a person you are talking to at the start of your line
[17:08] <bjorkintosh> my dell laptop has buttons for controlling the volume and for muting ...
[17:08] <bjorkintosh> somehow, mute works properly, but unmute does not.
[17:08] <bjorkintosh> how're the buttons associated with the volume controls?
[17:09] <amh345> when running a command like cpulimit -e process -l 40  < is this permanent or does it revert when rebooted?
[17:09] <bjorkintosh> amh345, reverts.
[17:09] <bjorkintosh> it only becomes 'permanent' if you set it every time you boot up.
[17:09] <amh345> oh ok.  thank you.
[17:09] <bjorkintosh> or if the values are saved somewhere.
[17:10] <Wizard> amh345: you can add it /etc/rc.local
[17:10] <amh345> and just so i understand.  that's 40% of the CPU, correct?
[17:10] <amh345> Wizard: thank you1
[17:10] <rbrooks> bjorkintosh, check out acpid
[17:10] <Wizard> bhull05: ping.
[17:10] <Wizard> bhull05: Does it freeze after you hit "Restart"?
[17:11] <dijonyummy> how are you folks liking 12.04
[17:12] <bhull05> Wizard: No, it freezes when I press "Run Ubuntu from USB Drive"
[17:12] <bjorkintosh> dijonyummy, i've been on it for a few months now.
[17:12] <bjorkintosh> hmm. i wonder. anyone using 3.4 yet?
[17:12] <Wizard> 3.what? :>
[17:13] <bhull05> Wizard: Then, it scrolls through a wall of text and the purple Ubuntu screen comes up, but after the 5 dots go from white to orange it freezes for about 2 minutes, and then the black and white bar screen comes up.
[17:13] <bjorkintosh> Wizard, kernel.
[17:13] <innociv> I installed some things from FUBAR, the same thing but different versions, and now it's really fubar. How do I clean it up?
[17:13] <Wizard> bjorkintosh: 3.2.0-24-powerpc-smp
[17:14] <Wizard> bhull05: Which gfx card? Optimus?
[17:14] <bhull05> Wizard: Graphics card?
[17:14] <Wizard> Yup.
[17:15] <pieruccio> !list
[17:15] <L3tops> Yes wizard, same in 2d or 3d.
[17:15] <bhull05> Wizard: Geforce GTS 360M
[17:15] <rbrooks> !appz
[17:16] <rbrooks> crap
[17:16] <Wizard> bhull05: Hmm. This has to be something with gfx card. It is possible to change video mode during cd boot, but I've forgotten how ;P
[17:17] <L3tops> bhull05: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[17:18] <Wizard> L3tops: He's booting LiveCD ;]
[17:19] <L3tops> doh
[17:19] <Wizard> L3tops: I also don't know how to help you with Dash. Look at .xsession-errors, maybe some config file is screwed.
[17:19] <Wizard> I mean broken ;P
[17:19] <L3tops> try booting with the nomodeset option bhull05
[17:19] <bhull05> L3tops: Now I'm encountering another issue while attempting to install. I have a thread on the ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986548   ... Please take a look becuase this is the screen I'm currently encountering.
[17:20] <pieruccio> hallo
[17:20] <dijonyummy> is there a command line torrent client
[17:20] <nemo> dijonyummy: several
[17:20] <Wizard> dijonyummy: Lots.
[17:21] <nemo> dijonyummy: you can even run azureus on a commandline
[17:21] <dijonyummy> nemo: cool, which is good and easy to use
[17:21] <nemo> dijonyummy: which is kinda handy if you want to switch back and forth
[17:21] <pieruccio> irc.rizon.net
[17:21] <nemo> dijonyummy: *shrug* that's personal taste
[17:21] <nemo> I mentionedo ne
[17:22] <nemo> I'm currently seeding Hedgewars tar.bz2 and exe in azureus, but that's mostly laziness.  I did experiment w/ some others but had various configuration issues
[17:22] <innociv_> "libmysqlclient15off: 5.1.30really5.0.83-0ubuntu3 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with libmysqlclient15off:i386 5.0.96-0ubuntu1 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed
[17:22] <innociv_> "
[17:22] <innociv_> "sudo dpkg -r libmysqlclient15off"
[17:22] <innociv_>  tells me it's not installed
[17:22] <Wizard> nemo: I think transmission has CLI too.
[17:23] <nemo> Wizard: ah. good to know.
[17:23] <CiDhed> Need some help.
[17:23] <CiDhed> Is there any way to make a limited user have the ability to connect to a wifi network without requiring password?
[17:23] <Wizard> nemo: I'm not sure, check apt ;]
[17:24] <Wizard> nemo: Yup, it does :P
[17:24] <Wizard> nemo: If Transmission has, than what else one needs? :D
[17:24] <L3tops> innociv_: sudo dpkg -r libmysqlclient15off:i386
[17:25] <bhull05> Wizard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986548 Here I created a thread describing my issue. If you could take a quick glance I'd appreciate it. I can't figure out how to set the nomodeset as this gentlemen suggests though. Any help would be great.
[17:25] <nemo> Wizard: well, I've been using azureus for years. but might be worth moving.
[17:25] <L3tops> CiDhed: The only way I can think to do it is to script a connection to a SSID that doesn't change.
[17:26] <rodhash> Hello guys.... what is the mta installed on ubuntu??? I see there's no sendmail and postfix... my messages file also is not being used...
[17:26] <L3tops> !nomodeset | bhull05
[17:26] <Wizard> bhull05: I can, but I'm not good at this gfx issues.
[17:26] <nemo> Wizard: hm. 9 years to be specific
[17:26] <Wizard> kewl ;]
[17:27] <beandog> rodhash: ssmtp?
[17:27] <CiDhed> I am building portable laptops that need to be able to connect to public wireless points.
[17:27] <CiDhed> I don't want to give them root though.
[17:27] <beandog> networkmanager
[17:28] <rodhash> beandog, there's no ssmtp installed too
[17:28] <beandog> rodhash: hmm, dunno then
[17:28] <CiDhed> Install network manager?
[17:28] <CiDhed> Maybe I can just use wicd.
[17:28] <L3tops> Wizard: all my lenses are crashing... just going with xfce4... thanks
[17:29] <Wizard> Lül.
[17:29] <Wizard> L3tops: np ;]
[17:29] <Wizard> L3tops: have you checked that error file?
[17:29] <Wizard> Unity is really worth trying.
[17:29] <rodhash> beandog, no :/
[17:29] <Wizard> If you don't have many specific options, you can also remove .config .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd and so ;]
[17:30] <L3tops> yes... I have other performance issues with it on this junk ATI... just going a bit lighter weight. I have no shortage of machines to run it on
[17:30] <bustabust> CIFS mounting issue... I have a drobo NAS with a share called central. I can 'smbclient -L drobo-primary' and see the share called central. However when I run the command 'sudo mount -t cifs -o username=bustabust,password=mypass //10.10.1.150/central /mnt/drobo' error says Unable to find suitable address. Any ideas? I've googled the heck out of this thing
[17:30] <nemo> Wizard: I'm trying hard to get used to it.  Still handles apps like Eclipse badly though (loses track of it and tries to launch again instead of switching)
[17:30] <nemo> Wizard: also lack of applets *really* pisses me off. I miss my cpu/network monitors
[17:31] <Wizard> nemo: Java apps are easy to fix.
[17:31] <Wizard> I did that with my IntelliJ <3
[17:31] <L3tops> CiDhed I didn't think about that... maybe you could launch wicd as root from startup
[17:31] <Wizard> nemo: you just have to edit their desktop file and add StartupWMClass.
[17:32] <nemo> Wizard: oh. and if I launch 2 instances of firefox, even with completely different paths, (/home/nemo/firefox.nightly/firefox vs /usr/bin/firefox) it thinks they are same firefox as on launcher, and clicking focuses the nightly one.   I guess I could try making another launcher, now that I learned alacarte is the workaround for their removing that capability from pretty much anywhere
[17:32] <CiDhed> L3tops, that is what I am trying now.
[17:32] <nemo> Wizard: now about those applets... :-p
[17:32] <Wizard> Which you can get by running xprop.
[17:32] <CiDhed> wicd has always been a decent network manager. Don't know why it isn't the main in ubuntu.
[17:32] <Wizard> nemo: Unity uses WM_CLASS to sort windows.
[17:32] <Wizard> Firefox will allways be Firefox ;]
[17:33] <nemo> Wizard: that has nothing to do with firefox
[17:33] <Wizard> It has.
[17:33] <nemo> Wizard: and everything to do w/ launching another app w/ same name but totally different location
[17:33] <Wizard> I told you, Unity uses WM_CLASS window hint.
[17:34] <nemo> Wizard: you did mention, I'm just saying how it is annoying as a user
[17:34] <Wizard> Applications usually use *same* WM_CLASS regardless of version or path.
[17:34] <nemo> I don't particularly care *what* they chose to do. they are just replacing an interface that did work
[17:34] <Wizard> nemo: You can't do anything with this.
[17:34] <Wizard> nemo: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[17:34] <lello> hi guys, i've a desktop with an i5 and an ati 6750. With proprietary ati drivers, 3d won't work, instead if I use the integrated intel everything works fine, except sometimes
[17:34] <Wizard> Nothing is being replaced :/
[17:35] <nemo> Wizard: this was more about your "unity is really worth trying" so I mentioned my trying, and things encountered.  I could go on
[17:35] <nemo> Wizard: for example, Unity2D makes resizing windows almost impossible
[17:35] <lello> sometimes, desktop start withouth 3d working
[17:35] <lello> and I don't know why
[17:35] <nemo> there's an open bug on that. has been open for a while
[17:35] <Wizard> nemo: Yes, I know.
[17:36] <nemo> my SO is using Unity2D 'cause 3D was too unreliable (crashy/sluggish) on her intel gfx card
[17:36] <Wizard> I got used to alt+right click resize years ago, so I don't care ;P
[17:36] <nemo> Wizard: yeeeah. 'scuse me for not recommending that to her.
[17:36] <ferris> I am having a problem starting audacity... with errors.... something to do with alsa or possible jack... so i ran the script and uploaded the output to http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=1e069eb0ac6fa82fb489549ceca37fc5affa0d3e
[17:36] <nemo> Wizard: I'm experimenting w/ MATE but unfortunately it still doesn't play nice w/ Gnome3 installed
[17:36] <Wizard> nemo: This bug is a metacity bug actually.
[17:36] <nemo> Wizard: maybe soon.
[17:37] <nemo> Wizard: well. metacity + excessively thin border themes in default Unity2D
[17:37] <nemo> Wizard: shouldn't give users a non-functional experience in the interests of style
[17:37] <cypher-neo> nemo: Don't like Unity? Try something else, like Xubuntu or GNOME-Shell.
[17:37] <nemo> cypher-neo: ...
[17:37] <dlentz> nemo, you should try the Mint 13 MATE edition
[17:38] <codeM0nK3Y> how can i check which version of php is in the repos? the lampstack page says php5, but that could mean 5.1 for all I know
[17:38] <ferris> not really sure why audacity is not working
[17:38] <nemo> dlentz: hm. I was using the one off the ubuntu PPA - is it significantly different in Mint?
[17:38] <ferris> can someone help me out with this?
[17:38] <cypher-neo> nemo, I found an amazing XFCE distro called Voyager. It doesn't use Unity at all so you shouldn't have a problem it.
[17:38] <ferris> and thanks in advanced
[17:39] <nemo> dlentz: main issue was w/ config daemon startup errors, causing most of config to be unusable. someone blamed that on having Gnome3 installed
[17:39] <lello> no one may help me?
[17:39] <guntbert> !details | ferris
[17:39] <Wizard> nemo: Usually new users are amused by Unity.
[17:39] <nemo> dlentz: but I was unwilling to remove Gnome3 - esp since I'm experimenting w/ MATE to try and find my mom a migration path off 11.04 that she's been trapped on
[17:39] <Wizard> It works. It's predictable. Preconfigured.
[17:39] <cypher-neo> ferris, You're having problems with Sound? Go to Advanced Settings, and click on Sound. Make sure the Sound is turned up and not muted, and then from Sound Settings you can run tests and see why it's not working.
[17:39] <nemo> Wizard: heh. unless they use Unity2D
[17:39] <Wizard> nemo: I do.
[17:39] <nemo> then they are amused in not-a-fun-way
[17:40] <Wizard> Religion forbids me using Compiz.
[17:40] <Wizard> ;P
[17:40] <nemo> unity2d also made moving apps between monitors almost impossible
[17:40] <Wizard> Let's take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:40] <nemo> way too hard to drag them around
[17:40] <nemo> Wizard: these are legit bugs that I'm looking for fixes on. hardly off-topic
[17:40] <Wizard> nemo: I got thing into my hands and fixed a bug myself.
[17:41] <Wizard> I added patch to launchpad issue, but *nobody* did *anything* with it.
[17:41] <nemo> another fun one w/ 2 monitor setup. experimenting w/ disabling laptop monitor and just using plugged in one. every time she reboots I have to disable the laptop monitor again, it always forgets.  That one might be lowerlevel than Unity I guess, although XFCE did not do this
[17:41] <Wizard> For more than a week.
[17:41] <Wizard> ;]
[17:41] <Wizard> nemo: I agree, many things need polishing.
[17:41] <nemo> to put it mildly :)
[17:41] <Wizard> But. I appreciate one thing.
[17:42] <Wizard> nemo: ;)
[17:42] <nemo> Wizard: they haven't even gotten to the level of function my mom has been used to for years in Gnome2 :)
[17:42] <cypher-neo> nemo, Out of curiousity, which XFCE distro did you use? Standard Xubuntu, or another X flavor?
[17:42] <Wizard> Yes, I know.
[17:42] <guntbert> nemo: sop that ranting please
[17:42] <guntbert> *stop
[17:42] <schultza> how do i check to see how much physical memory i have?
[17:42] <Wizard> But at least Linux has *unique* GUI.
[17:42] <ferris> guntbert... when i start audacity it silently quits. When I start it in a terminal it gives errors and quits.... never gets to the ui
[17:42] <nemo> guntbert: those aren't rants. those are a list of bugs. if you know of workarounds or fixes, you could be helpful instead of rude. if you're an admin, well, still being rude
[17:43] <dlentz> schultza, sudo dmidecode
[17:43] <Wizard> And I was waiting for this for more than 10 years.
[17:43] <ferris> the alsa-info information is posted at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=1e069eb0ac6fa82fb489549ceca37fc5affa0d3e
[17:43] <nemo> cypher-neo: I'm not using an XFCE4 distro - I install it on standard ubuntu
[17:43] <L3tops> schultza: cat /proc/meminfo will tell you more than you ever wanted to know :)
[17:43] <nemo> cypher-neo: just one more window manager
[17:43] <Wizard> Besides, Unity's gui reminds me WindowMaker ;P
[17:43] <guntbert> nemo: this is a support channel, no developers here
[17:43] <Wizard> I used to like WindowMaker.
[17:43] <nemo> guntbert: yes. and those are user interface bugs. perhaps there are workarounds or fixes.
[17:44] <ferris> I am not having playback issues as i can listen to music, watch videos ect... just can't start audacity
[17:44] <guntbert> ferris: send the output of audacity to a !pastebin
[17:44] <dlentz> ferris, have you made any attempt to google the error you receive from audacity in the terminal?
[17:44] <Wizard> nemo: join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:44] <nemo> guntbert: I'm quite familiar w/ how to find the dev channel thanks, just none of this is appropriate to it :-p
[17:44] <schultza> there was another command that showed both physical and page/disk memory used and total
[17:44] <ferris> yes
[17:44] <Wizard> We can talk freely there.
[17:44] <guntbert> !google | dlentz
[17:44] <L3tops> schultza: top will also tell you about resources.
[17:45] <cypher-neo> nemo, Oh, okay. I experimented with a sweet XFCE distro last week called Voyager.
[17:45] <escott> schultza, free -m
[17:45] <Wizard> Bah.
[17:45] <schultza> thanks
[17:45] <nemo> cypher-neo: unfortunately XFCE4 is still not too novice friendly. even doing something simple like adjusting clock. also config is not very integrated/consistent. I wouldn't inflict it on my mom
[17:45] <ferris> dlentz, yeah i have which is why i am hoping someone can take a look at the output and tell me what I need to do
[17:45] <dlentz> guntbert, thanks for the information (that i've seen a bazillion times), but i did not tell anyone to google anything, just asked if they already had
[17:45] <nemo> Wizard: have more than enough channels open in irssi. thanks anyway.
[17:45] <Wizard> :S
[17:46] <Wizard> Too bad, it was such a interesting discussion.
[17:46] <ferris> this just started after the upgrade to 12 lts
[17:46] <guntbert> ferris: you need to show us the output :-) (use a pastebin please)
[17:46] <cypher-neo> nemo, Funny... I just adjusted my clock....
[17:47] <cypher-neo> nemo, Didn't seem too hard to me.
[17:47] <nemo> cypher-neo: try timezone :-p
[17:47] <dlentz> ferris, yes, do as guntbert suggested and pastebin the error
[17:47] <cypher-neo> nemo, Oh... I see what you mean.
[17:47] <unkn-error> is webmin safe or is a security flaw?
[17:47] <ferris> Not sure it will display properly in pastebin but we will see
[17:47] <guntbert> !webmin | unkn-error
[17:48] <ferris> ok... it looks like it will work
[17:48] <unkn-error> is there an free alternative to webmin and cpanel?
[17:48] <ferris> http://pastebin.com/jM4SKaFm
[17:49] <cypher-neo> nemo, Actually... once I put my mind to figuring it out, it wasn't too difficult to do.
[17:50] <guntbert> ferris: that is the output of audacity?
[17:50] <nemo> cypher-neo: oh? is there a nice gui for it? last I checked it still had to be done on commandline
[17:50] <ferris> dlentz guntbert  It is in paste bin... those are the outputs from the alsa-info script
[17:50] <nemo> unacceptable for mom or SO
[17:50] <cypher-neo> nemo, I opened Settings, clicked on Calendar, and there was a Timezone option.
[17:50] <ferris> guntbert, yes
[17:50] <nemo> cypher-neo: oh. haha. that doesn't actually change it :)
[17:50] <nemo> yes. I know. also. really hard to navigate
[17:50] <ferris> guntbert, no... that is from alsa
[17:50] <ferris> not audacity
[17:51] <guntbert> ferris: I expected the output of audacity, but maybe someone else will be able to see problems in the alsa-info
[17:52] <CiDhed> Figured it out, if anyone cares
[17:52] <schultza> CiDhed: figured what out?
[17:52] <ferris> guntbert,  this is the output from audacity http://pastebin.com/ZPe4zpxR
[17:52] <CiDhed> Limited users not being able to connect to new public networks without a root password.
[17:53] <cypher-neo> d3m!urg34rch0n$
[17:53] <cypher-neo> LOL. Typing in the wrong window
[17:53] <schultza> CiDhed: is a fix for that?
[17:53] <guntbert> ferris: now I see why you posted the alsa-info - alas I am not able to help with those issues - sorry
[17:54] <roasted_> Anybody running Motion? I'm trying to set up multiple cameras and am curious about the motion.conf file. With multiple cameras, you use the thread.conf files (1 per camera). Okay fine. But in motion.conf, /dev/video0 still takes primary unless I have a netcam_url specified. So what do I do for this portion of the file when the cams should be configured in thread1.conf, etc?
[17:54] <guntbert> cypher-neo: change that password ;-)
[17:55] <CiDhed> schultza, yeah, you edit the network manager policy in /usr/share/polkit-1
[17:55] <schultza> nevermind... ill be back. rebooting for ubuntu updates (cups, unity)
[17:55] <cypher-neo> guntbert, lol. Yeah
[17:55] <CiDhed> There really should be a permissions application.
[17:55] <dlentz> ferris, you should really report the segmentation faoult on launchpad. audacity shouldn't be doing that even if it has issues with your sound
[17:56] <ferris> I have clicked submit a report when the dialog box popped up... is that the same as using launchpad?
[17:56] <dlentz> ferris, yes, do you have a link?
[17:56] <ferris> no.
[17:57] <ferris> i start audacity and then it gives me the report a problem... so I click  submit a problem
[17:57] <patc1> Hello, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on notebook. If using single screen (external), I can use kaffeine. If I activate the notebook screen too, kaffeine does not work (no image, but still sound OK). This all works fine under 10.10, but 10.10 is no longer supported. I think it comes from xorg or something about the screens management... any idea please?
[17:58] <ferris> haven't gone into anything else
[17:58] <dlentz> ferris, does tha bring up a browser??
[17:58] <ferris> no
[17:58] <schultza> im back
[17:59] <dlentz> bug 990683
[17:59] <ferris> when i start it with sudo... i get a pop up that says... Audacity could not find a place to store temporary files.
[17:59] <ferris> Please enter an appropriate directory in the preferences dialog.
[17:59] <dlentz> see if workaround in comment 5 on that bug fixes it
[17:59] <anels> Hi, guys. Does anyone know how to configure the compression rate when create an archive?
[17:59] <Wizard> anels: Yes, gzip has switches from -1 to -9.
[18:00] <ferris> then I get another dialog box... that says...
[18:00] <escott> anels, gzip -#
[18:00] <Wizard> See man gzip for details.
[18:00] <ferris> Do you want to report the problem now?
[18:00] <ferris> I click report problem...
[18:00] <Wizard> Other compressors have simmilar params.
[18:00] <anels> Thanks, how about GUI? I mean I like right-click compress
[18:00] <ferris> then it asks for admin pass
[18:01] <dlentz> ferris, see if workaround in comment 5 on that bug fixes it https://launchpad.net/bugs/990683
[18:01] <do1080> why does the command who return 0 users?  specifically the chain "who | wc -l"
[18:01] <do1080> does it not count myself?
[18:01] <ferris> ok
[18:01] <ferris> thanks
[18:01] <dlentz> ferris, i have to go, but good luck
[18:01] <patc1> nobody?
[18:01] <Wizard> do1080: It should.
[18:01] <escott> do1080, who only counts tty's and psuedo ttys. not all terminal like applications open a tty
[18:01] <do1080> makes sense
[18:01] <do1080> thanks
[18:02] <escott> do1080, guake for one doesn't although im not sure what it does if it doesnt have a tty...
[18:03] <do1080> appreciate the response; have a nice day
[18:03] <Layke> I'm trying to kill a process.. it's not dying.. sudo kill pid
[18:03] <Layke> I'm in the list of sudoers
[18:03] <schultza> try "kill -9 [pid]"
[18:04] <Layke> Thanks
[18:04] <Layke> That killed it.
[18:04] <Layke> What was the difference?
[18:05] <bieb> ubuntu 12.04 LTSP.. trying to install Firefox as local app... did chroot /opt/ltsp/i386.. apt-get update.. apt-get install firefox.. Unable to locate Firefox...  what is the package name for Firefox?  It used to be just "firefox"
[18:05] <escott> Layke, a different signal was sent -9 is SIGHUP i believe
[18:05] <schultza> Layke: some programs may have NOHUP status on them which keeps them running, or there is another reason. The kill -9 forces it to close like the system is shutting down. Please read the "man kill" about it for more information.
[18:05] <patc1> Hello, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on notebook. If using single screen (external), I can use kaffeine. If I activate the notebook screen too, kaffeine does not work (no image, but still sound OK). This all works fine under 10.10, but 10.10 is no longer supported. I think it comes from xorg or something about the screens management... any idea please?
[18:06] <ferris> dlentz, it worked... thanks a lot
[18:06] <cccangel> patc1, have you tried dual booting an install of 12.04 to see if that helps fixing the problem?
[18:07] <Layke> Thanks for the tip.
[18:07] <schultza> Layke: yw
[18:07] <patc1> cccangel: no. I know that it works under 10.10. What I would like to know is how to make it work under 10.04.
[18:07] <Syria> Please help me with applying a socks proxy system wide on Kubuntu 12.04.
[18:07] <patc1> cccangel: so I think it'll be OK under 12.04... but I need it to work under 10.04
[18:08] <uofm49426> can i upgrade from lts to lts
[18:08] <uofm49426> can i go from 11.04 to 12.04
[18:08] <schultza> uofm49426: there is a current problme with that from the last lts to this new one. They are frantically working on it now.
[18:08] <cccangel> patc1, what kindof grpahics card are you on?
[18:09] <patc1> cccangel: intel graphics I can check more in details if needed
[18:09] <dillon> can someone help me with an issue i seem to be having? i can get WoW to run in ubuntu but i get low FPS
[18:10] <uofm49426> so right nows i have to step to 11.10 before going to 12.04
[18:10] <dillon> ?
[18:11] <cccangel> patc1, thats all i need to know.  i think your best bet is to look into https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa and see what that can offer as for a graphics update ...
[18:11] <schultza> uofm49426: actually, there is a problem with that too. But at this time, thats the upgrade path.
[18:11] <fixtehinterwebs> hi! i'm using 12.04 and i'm having issues with tomcat. Specifically, i have a deployed application that wants to write logs to ${catalina.home}/logs , and what that yields is an error in catalina.out which complains about ioexceptions in /usr/share/tomcat6/ . That directory contains no symlink to /var/log/tomcat6 . So i add an export for CATALINA_HOME in root's .bashrc pointing to /usr/lib/tomcat6 , but funnily enough that pr
[18:11] <bazhang> dillon, via wine?
[18:11] <dillon> yessir
[18:11] <fixtehinterwebs> so, i dig up the /etc/init.d/tomcat6 file, and that declares a CATALINA_HOME at /usr/share/tomcat6
[18:11] <bazhang> check the appdb and /join #winehq dillon
[18:11] <patc1> cccangel: thank you, I'll have a look!
[18:11] <bazhang> !appdb | dillon
[18:12] <dillon> ty sirt
[18:12] <fixtehinterwebs> which is whats breaking my application, but i need /usr/lib/tomcat6
[18:12] <dillon> sirs
[18:12] <cccangel> patc1, because 11.10 uses an updated xserver, mesa, and etc... and they backport newer versions ..
[18:12] <fixtehinterwebs> so, wtf
[18:12] <fixtehinterwebs> ubuntu, Y U BREAK MY TOMCAT?
[18:12] <uofm49426> ill just go to 11.04 till i can pick up a cdr
[18:13] <patc1> cccangel: but do you have an idea why it works under 10.10? I know it's not easy! ;)
[18:13] <fixtehinterwebs> furthermore, ubuntu, Y U KEEP CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE in different directories, without symlinks, and causing this kind of migration work a fucking pain in the ass?
[18:14] <bazhang> fixtehinterwebs, no cursing here
[18:14] <cccangel> patc1, the reason it works is because it uses a newer xserver, and xorg drivers that are stable and realized around that time period
[18:14] <fixtehinterwebs> pardon bazhang , but still, WTF?
[18:15] <bazhang> fixtehinterwebs, stop it.
[18:15] <patc1> cccangel: OK I understand. Maybe I can find a way to goaround it! :)
[18:15] <hairydog> I love ubuntu
[18:15] <Syria> bazhang: Do you have a minute please?
[18:15] <patc1> cccangel: thanks for your help.
[18:15] <cccangel> patc1, your best bet is use bleeding edge updates for that version
[18:15] <bazhang> Syria, ask the channel, if they know the answer someone will try
[18:15] <cccangel> patc1, aka... the link i gave you
[18:15] <patc1> cccangel: yes oki, thanks!
[18:16] <hairydog> bazhang, do you know how to view ubuntu shares?
[18:16] <hairydog> I need to see what folders I'm sharing
[18:16] <fixtehinterwebs> bazhang: i apologize, but that doesnt make me less in need of help and less pissed off at how a distro is breaking my webapps
[18:16] <Syria> How can apply a socks proxy system wide please?? Kubuntu 12.04.
[18:16] <bazhang> hairydog, samba shares? nfs? please clarify
[18:16] <hairydog> samba
[18:16] <unkn-error> uff
[18:16] <bazhang> hairydog, are you sharing between windows and ubuntu?
[18:17] <hairydog> trying to
[18:17] <unkn-error> i tried this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006820/ but I still have no bootscreen / bootsplash
[18:17] <hairydog> I just want to see what folders I have shared so far
[18:17] <naryfa> Hi everyone
[18:17] <bazhang> hairydog, got the drive mounted in fstab?
[18:17] <hairydog> not sure what fstab is
[18:17] <schultza> hairydog: ddid you install samba-server ?
[18:17] <hairydog> I'm new to ubuntu
[18:17] <hairydog> umm let me show you
[18:17] <bazhang> !fstab | hairydog
[18:17] <hairydog> hang on 1 sec
[18:18] <roasted_> hairydog: what's the goal here? To have shared folders on Ubuntu that Windows can access?
[18:18] <schultza> hairydog: samba client is already installed by default. server side is not
[18:18] <roasted_> schultza: I've never installed samba-server, and I've always hosted shares on my ubuntu system.
[18:18] <byteman> If I run <<$ echo -e "foo">> I get "foo", but if I run <<$ sh -c 'echo -e "foo"'>> I get "-e foo" ---why do I get the "-e" in the second example?
[18:18] <baazigar|rajat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:18] <unkn-error> how can I disable the boot splash to see only the text when it's booting? at least if is not working too see a text on the screen, not just a dark / blank screen
[18:18] <roasted_> in fact, samba-server isn't even a valid package in 12.04
[18:19] <baazigar|rajat> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[18:19] <baazigar|rajat>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[18:19] <hairydog> I followed this guide
[18:19] <hairydog> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[18:19] <baazigar|rajat> hi i am getting this error when installing tweak tool
[18:19] <schultza> roasted_: with this install of 12.04, ive had to physically installed [smb|samba]-server to get it working.
[18:19] <roasted_> schultza: samba-server is not a valid package in ubuntu 12.04
[18:19] <hairydog> and yeah the goal is to have ubuntu folders that I can view from my windows machine
[18:19] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: Do you have PPAs installed?
[18:19] <roasted_> E: Unable to locate package samba-server
[18:19] <baazigar|rajat> no
[18:19] <escott> byteman, compare to /bin/bash -c 'echo -e "foo"'
[18:19] <hairydog> so far I have gotten it to where I can see my ubuntu vm, and can see the folder I shared, but when I try to open it, windows asks for authentication, I want it not to do that so I can just view the folder
[18:20] <schultza> well, i know i had to install some sort of server package in connection with samba to get mine to work
[18:20] <vekexasia> Hello all, i've just installed ubuntu on my desktop machine. Do you know which daemon is listening on port 53 ?
[18:20] <roasted_> hairydog: that guide looks good. However, if you want a more "no bs" way to configure samba, check out system-config-samba... it's a small but easy to use GUI to handle those tasks.
[18:20] <hairydog> sudo apt-get install system-config-samba ??
[18:20] <roasted_> hairydog: personally, when I began to tinker with samba, the config file kind of had me confused, so I would make changes in the gui and check the config file to see what the gui changed. From there, I learned much quicker.
[18:20] <roasted_> hairydog: yes
[18:20] <hairydog> k ty
[18:20] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops: is there no way to solve this dependency error???
[18:20] <hairydog> I'll check it out
[18:20] <roasted_> hairydog: it's also in the software center, listed as "samba", but just run that in terminal and you'll download it.
[18:21] <hairydog> I'm falling in love with ubuntu
[18:21] <roasted_> hairydog: it'll show up in your menu as Samba... need root to open the application. From there you can set up shares and whatnot. You'll see when you get there, but like I said, check out the smb.conf when you're done making changes. It'll help you learn.
[18:21] <hairydog> the more I learn the more I like it
[18:21] <L3tops> Well baazigar|rajat we must first figure out what is causing it...
[18:21] <escott> byteman, i think what is happening is that in /bin/sh which is really /bin/dash "echo" is a builtin that does not understand -e
[18:21] <roasted_> hairydog: it's a good platform. We're porting from Mac to Ubuntu here at work.
[18:21] <hairydog> Nice
[18:21] <L3tops> typically baazigar|rajat it is due to some errant ppa
[18:21] <roasted_> hairydog: just keep your resources in mind... ubuntuforums, this IRC channel, etc.
[18:22] <escott> byteman, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/259671
[18:22] <vekexasia> dio porco
[18:22] <hairydog> I installed a osx lion theme and it makes ubuntu look so good :P
[18:22] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : i installed gimp then this error came
[18:22] <The_BROS> how to install tar.bz2 archive in Ubuntu?
[18:22] <schultza> my next project is getting my top of the line games working with codeweaver's version of wine.. forgot its name at the moment.
[18:22] <hairydog> the only reason I won't install ubuntu as my primary os is because I game a lot on pc
[18:22] <roasted_> hairydog: nice. I think it looks pretty good by default anyway :P
[18:22] <hairydog> if I wasn't a gamer, I wouldn't need windows for anything
[18:22] <schultza> hairydog: same here
[18:23] <schultza> if i can fix that, id go linux all the time
[18:23] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: what version of gimp?
[18:23] <hairydog> I wish the way the dash is clear was the whole window theme and stuff
[18:23] <hairydog> if they did that I would love the default ubuntu theme
[18:23] <baazigar|rajat> latest, i downloaded it 3 days ago
[18:23] <schultza> did you know that other gamers told me to get a gaming console to fix that need for windows. :) dont they know the games im after are not on the console
[18:24] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: apt-cache policy gimp | grep Installed
[18:24] <hairydog> I just don't like console lol. I play bf3 and cod and stuff but don't like controllers, I prefer mouse and keyboard + the pc gaming community is much better than the 12 year olds on xbox live
[18:24] <vekexasia> Someone can help me with ubuntu caching ip addresses ? I can't force my desktop ubuntu to refresh its cache
[18:24] <schultza> me neither. im so used to the keyboard/mouse gaming i cant go console without slowing waaaay down
[18:24] <hairydog> I wish they would make games work for ubuntu though
[18:24] <byteman> escott / ubottu : thanks!
[18:24] <hairydog> any good mmos that work on ubuntu?
[18:25] <bazhang> vekexasia, hairydog lets get on topic please
[18:25] <roasted_> hairydog: it's all about the game maker. Ubuntu itself is a good gaming platform.... but you need games... whcih game makers aren't caving to just yet.
[18:25] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : I removed it then, Installed: (none)
[18:25] <schultza> hairydog: ive asked the gaming companies... their excuse, not enough demand
[18:25] <bartj> hello all
[18:25] <bartj> I am still on jaunty
[18:25] <vekexasia> bazhang: ???
[18:25] <bartj> and need to install this: libmysqlclient15-dev
[18:25] <schultza> jaunty!?!?!
[18:25] <bazhang> whoops sorry vekexasia thats for schultza
[18:25] <bartj> but, when I try "sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient15-dev"
[18:25] <schultza> bartj: please do not use enter as punctuation
[18:25] <vekexasia> nevermind bazhang, :) Can you help me with my little problem?
[18:26] <povoacao> help. I have ubuntu 32 bits running at 64 bit hardware. Now I want to recompile kernel to have a 64 bit kernel. anyone have links to do this ?
[18:26] <lelamal> !enter | bartj
[18:26] <bartj> i get 404 for a lot of the repositories, how do i fix this ?
[18:26] <L3tops> how did you install it baazigar|rajat?
[18:26] <escott> povoacao, you need to reinstall
[18:26] <bazhang> povoacao, not possible. reinstall to change arch
[18:26] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : through software-center
[18:26] <hairydog> So game makers won't make games for Ubuntu ? Is that just because it's open source and free or what?
[18:27] <hairydog> and bazhang  this is Ubuntu support, I'm asking questions related to Ubuntu and game support :P
[18:27] <bazhang> hairydog, thats outside the support topic here
[18:27] <hairydog> not uh!
[18:27] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: have you done an apt-get update    lately?
[18:27] <schultza> bartj: jaunty is no longer supported, you will need to upgrade to a newer version
[18:27] <hairydog> it says ubuntu support, that is technically ubuntu support
[18:27] <escott> hairydog, they are coming around slowly, but it always seems a couple years out
[18:27] <povoacao> resintall ? is it  not enough to recompile the kernel and install the required libraries ? only reinstalling...
[18:27] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: sudo apt-get update
[18:27] <vekexasia> Hello guys, I don't want to sound annoying but I've an issue. I can't refresh the ip address of a website. dig always query localhost for the dns but I don't have any dns installed. Any idea ?
[18:27] <bazhang> hairydog, no it's not. lets move on
[18:27] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : i did it an hour ago
[18:27] <roasted_> hairydog: beware of bazhang. He holds the magical ban hammer.
[18:27] <hairydog> !topic
[18:27] <bartj> schultza, or I could try installing from the sources ?
[18:28] <hairydog> Official Ubuntu Support Channel. Hey just cause I ask about games because I'm a gamer and want to game on Ubuntu doesn't make it any less important than anyone else's questions you're just being hitler.
[18:28] <schultza> or go from the sources. id recommend a ubuntu upgrade (install from disk) option though
[18:28] <schultza> you will not get supported updates without doing everything yourself
[18:28] <roasted_> hairydog: I'd drop it bro... he holds the ban hammer.
[18:28] <roasted_> sigh...
[18:28] <bazhang> roasted_, lets move on
[18:28] <roasted_> color me surprised
[18:29] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : can you help or should i reinstall ubuntu ???
[18:29] <bartj> schultza, i tried googling a bit but couldn't find the sources for libmysqlclient15-dev
[18:29] <schultza> sorry guys, i helped the gaming topic along
[18:29] <vekexasia> Hello guys, I don't want to sound annoying but I've an issue. I can't refresh the ip address of a website. dig always query localhost for the dns but I don't have any dns installed. Any idea ?
[18:29] <L3tops> We can figure it out... a reinstall is a drastic step baazigar|rajat. What were you trying to install to begin with that gave you the depend error
[18:29] <roasted_> Question - any Motion users here? I'm trying to set up multiple network cameras, but I'm having an issue with the config file. I understand I am to use the thread.conf files for individual cameras, but what about the motion.conf where /dev/video0 takes priority?
[18:29] <hairy-dog> jerk.
[18:29] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : Advanced setting
[18:30] <escott> roasted_, im curious what this "motion" project is
[18:30] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : Tweak advanced gnome 3 settings
[18:30] <zacktu> is there a live cd tool that can examine the mbr on a disk and say that it has been corrupted  beyone repair?
[18:30] <roasted_> escott: it's a motion detection software for Linux... uses your webcam by default, or you can set up network cameras.
[18:30] <shred805> hello does anyone know the command to run the add printer wizard
[18:30] <roasted_> escott: I can set share paths in the config and itll save the images/video stream to that location whenever something moves across the camera field of view.
[18:30] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: have you run an apt-get upgrade?
[18:31] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: sudo
[18:31] <shred805> im trying to run it though ssh need the command
[18:31] <hairy-dog> bazhang, how about instead of kicking me, you could direct me to a channel where I CAN talk about gaming on Ubuntu?
[18:31] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops  : yes sudo apt-get update, not upgrade
[18:31] <roasted_> hairy-dog: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:31] <escott> roasted_, ok. i was wondering if it was some open source attempt at something like kinect
[18:31] <bazhang> hairy-dog, #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:31] <sweb1> what is pacakge name of sun java in ubuntu  ?
[18:31] <hairy-dog> thank you roasted_
[18:31] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: I am confused at the error, because they both appear to want and not be installed because of the same version... please sudo apt-get upgrade and try again
[18:31] <sweb1> no openjdk
[18:32] <roasted_> escott: not necessarily. Its appealing to me because ZoneMinder has been giving me some issues with my higher resolution surveillance cameras... so I wanted to try Motion, which users have been praising, but I just can't find much info on the subject.
[18:32] <roasted_> escott: I can figure out how to get 1 camera to work in the config, but once I introduce other cameras and have to split my configs in the thread1.conf thread2.conf etc files, I lose it.
[18:33] <escott> roasted_, i've never heard of the project i was just curious what it is
[18:33] <escott> sweb1, sun java can no longer be distributed by canonical per instructions from oracle
[18:33] <roasted_> escott: sounds good. :)
[18:33] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : how much time will it take ? on 256 kbps net speed?
[18:34] <povoacao> if I use make x86_64_defconfig in my 32 bits ubuntu, my new kernel will support 64 bit hardware ?
[18:34] <sweb1> escott: for any distrubtion of linux ? or just ubuntu ?
[18:34] <bazhang> povoacao, you have to reinstall to change arch
[18:34] <escott> povoacao, its not supported. your userspace including glibc would still be 32bit
[18:34] <BrainFrosty> What's a genius?
[18:35] <BrainFrosty> I heard it was a male with an oversized penis
[18:35] <kurtwp_> sweb1: to my knowledge sun-java it is still in the repo
[18:35] <bazhang> BrainFrosty, related to ubuntu?
[18:35] <escott> sweb1, i believe it was for everyone
[18:35] <BrainFrosty> no in general
[18:35] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: I cannot know that. Go ahead and run it, and it will tell you the amount of megs that will need to be downloaded
[18:35] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : around 1 GB of upgrades, it will take a lot of time.
[18:35] <bazhang> BrainFrosty, wrong channel. stop it
[18:35] <hairy-dog> how do I take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[18:35] <BrainFrosty> alright fine
[18:35] <kurtwp_> hairy-dog: download shutter
[18:36] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : i ran it
[18:36] <sweb1> package name : kurtwp_
[18:36] <sweb1> ?
[18:36] <L3tops> baazigar|rajat: perhaps a better answer is... less time than a backup/reinstall/restore?
[18:36] <escott> sweb1, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[18:36] <schultza> kurtwp_: there is no default solution?
[18:36] <L3tops> I will be around baazigar|rajat.
[18:36] <kurtwp_> sweb1: do a apt-cache search sun | more
[18:36] <kurtwp_> see what you see
[18:36] <baazigar|rajat> L3tops : ok
[18:36] <kurtwp_> schultza: for what
[18:36] <schultza> kurtwp_: for the screen capture
[18:37] <kurtwp_> schultza: correct so let me re-phrase I recommend shutter for a screen cap utility
[18:37] <hairy-dog> kurtwp_, sudo apt-get install shutter?
[18:37] <kurtwp_> hairy-dog: do a apt-cache search shutter to make sure
[18:38] <schultza> i just did.. shutter is a package
[18:41] <povoacao> is possible to install with the DVD ubuntu 64 bit without loose my data on my 32 bit ubuntu ?
[18:41] <escott> povoacao, just backup your /home and the user data should be safe
[18:41] <bazhang> povoacao, got a /home partition thats separate?
[18:41] <povoacao> my /home partition is cripted
[18:42] <escott> povoacao, that shouldnt be a problem as long as you backup all of /home
[18:42] <povoacao> all other filesystems is under /
[18:42] <schultza> your home dir is encrypted. but while you are in it.. it's available to you, right
[18:42] <kurtwp_> povoacao: back it up anyways
[18:42] <povoacao> I would like to preserve the applications too
[18:43] <povoacao> a lot of applications...
[18:43] <schultza> not sure how you would be able to preserve the apps
[18:43] <escott> !clone | povoacao
[18:43] <ankush_> Hi all
[18:43] <zbeefy> hi
[18:43] <nemo> Wizard: found another app horribly painful to use in Unity - GIMP.  Having menu along top of each window is really useful. going to top of screen and trying to figure out which window is being referenced, not so much
[18:43] <escott> povoacao, when you backup the encrypted /home you should do so from a livecd so as to avoid issues with having the ecryptfs mounted on top of /home/username
[18:44] <nemo> Wizard: actually, that one I think is enough to drive me back to gnome3 or anything else
[18:44] <ankush_> I have just installed ubuntu 11.04 , installed some softwares, and restarted, but now it freezes on the purple loading screen? what should I do?
[18:44] <nemo> Wizard: well. that on top of the other problems.
[18:44] <povoacao> I think I can install without format filesystem ou recreate them
[18:45] <schultza> nemo: it's not as bad for the mac osx users.. that's their normal
[18:45] <arta> remASTERIN IN UBUNTU
[18:46] <zaggynl> has anyone managed to boot ubuntu server x64 on virtualbox?
[18:46] <povoacao> I would like to preserve the applications...not reinstall...only install the 64 bit kernel and the necessary packages
[18:46] <povoacao> and update any or other pack if necessary
[18:46] <schultza> i dont think you can update from a i386 (32 bit) to a x86-64 (64 bit) arch
[18:47] <schultza> without a reinstall... great.. now im punctuating again with enter
[18:47] <povoacao> they tell me to reinstall....
[18:47] <schultza> yeah, i think that's your best option
[18:47] <schultza> but back up what you have installed with the method they told you on the programs.. then backup your /home dirs... then reinstall...
[18:47] <povoacao> I want the easy option
[18:48] <schultza> i think that's the best option right now...
[18:48] <povoacao> and not the best in this case.
[18:48] <escott> povoacao, thats the ONLY option in this case. please don't ask again
[18:48] <arta_> Indonesia .........
[18:48] <schultza> you are talking of TWO DIFFERENT archs.. you cant upgrade from one to another
[18:48] <arta_> help remasteering
[18:48] <schultza> without rebuilding the whole system.. thats why there needs to be a reinstall
[18:49] <piihb> Can someone explain the different versions of Adobe to download for Linux?
[18:49] <escott> piihb, adobe what?
[18:49] <arta_> I am Ubuntu 11.04
[18:49] <piihb> escott: Flash.
[18:50] <schultza> arta_: what are you trying to remaster?
[18:50] <escott> piihb, can you give an example of what you are trying to pick between?
[18:50] <arta_> yas,,, I have trobol
[18:51] <o67pc> aff
[18:51] <o67pc> isp fdp
[18:51] <o67pc> What is the file of we change the ttl of linux?
[18:51] <zacktu> a friend gave me a computer -- installs of windows xp and ubuntu won't boot -- system rescue cd will find ubuntu and boot it, but ubuntu won't boot off the disk -- i've tried fixmbr and fixboot for windows w/ no success -- is it time to trash the disk?
 yes I know is two different archs
[18:51] <piihb> escott: YUM for Linux; .tar.gz for other Linux; .rpm for other Linux
[18:52] <povoacao> I know I need gcc , libs and other suffs 64 bits
[18:52] <escott> !apt | piihb use apt to install flash do not download programs from websites
[18:52] <schultza> povoacao: but there is no command to switch archs at this time
[18:52] <schultza> once you installed an arch, it stays in that arch for any updates/upgrades.
[18:53] <povoacao> yes I know....but will be good if someone create this command
[18:53] <zbeefy> zacktu: you could check the drive under ubuntu live CD using Disk Utility
[18:53] <povoacao> to switch archs
[18:53] <bazhang> povoacao, cannot be done. reinstall
[18:53] <zacktu> zbeefy: disk utility says the disk is ok
[18:53] <o67pc>  What is the file of we change the ttl of linux?
[18:53] <povoacao> I work with AIX....AIX I can just switch
[18:53] <roasted_> Anybody running Motion? I'm trying to configure multiple network cams but I'm having some confusion in regard to the /dev/video0 vs network cams in the config file. Anybody familiar with this?
[18:53] <arta_> schultza use ubuntu 11.04
[18:54] <bazhang> povoacao, lets move on please
[18:54] <piihb> escott: So, sudo apt-get adobe flash    ?
[18:54] <zbeefy> zacktu: then it must be okay, format it in Disk Utility
[18:54] <escott> povoacao, and its open source so you can start hacking on that. but it is not supported yes and it is certainly not supported here
[18:54] <violinappren> !id | arta_
[18:54] <zbeefy> zacktu: and assign a new partition table
[18:54] <escott> piihb, you may have to enable the partner repos
[18:54] <povoacao> will be good if ubuntu in the near future support this....
[18:54] <escott> !info flashplugin-installer | piihb
[18:54] <schultza> arta_: what program is trobol?
[18:54] <zbeefy> zacktu: but remember to format the drive, not the partition
[18:54] <o67pc> What is the file of we can change the ttl of linux?
[18:55] <yeats> o67pc: what does "the ttl of linux" mean?
[18:55] <arta_> thank  Boy....     saya mau coba rombak semua Ubuntu 11.04nya
[18:55] <piihb> escott: What's wrong with downloading from websites?
[18:55] <o67pc> yeats, the time to live of the packet delivered..
[18:55] <o67pc> yeats, i rementer is on /proc/net or something like that
[18:56] <escott> piihb, you start downloading from websites and you end up with an OS like microsh** win**ows and we wouldn't like that
[18:56] <arta_> im join http://www.ubuntu-id.org sedikit yang oooll
[18:56] <schultza> arta_: what language is that?
[18:57] <violinappren> arta_:  wrtie: /join #ubuntu-id
[18:57] <arta_> Indonesia Sir
[18:57] <o67pc> schultza: I think is germany?
[18:57] <arta_> I  am sorry not speak English
[18:58] <piihb> haha thanks, escott :P
[18:58] <zacktu> zbeefy: i let ubuntu have the entire drive when doing the install -- most of the drive was one partition, with also a partition for swap and one more i think
[18:58] <schultza> !indonesian | arta_
[18:58] <zbeefy> zacktu: and you installed grub on /dev/sda ?
[19:00] <zacktu> zbeefy: didn't install grub as a separate activity -- it's not been necessary for any installs that i have done before
[19:00] <arta_> okay
[19:00] <arta_> I've been following ubuntu.id, little is online
[19:00] <schultza> what other languages do you know well?
[19:00] <zbeefy> zacktu: then it installed itself automatically, and what, it didn't boot after that?
[19:00] <schultza> and im sorry. i dont know the program "trobol"
[19:01] <violinappren> schultza: misspelled trouble
[19:01] <androidbruce> has anyone had issues updating samba4 in 12.04?
[19:01] <schultza> well, there is a parser otu there spelled that way
[19:01] <Sysi> when I play music (mp3) with VLC after boot, sound crackles for a minute or a half and then starts working properly, sound output is set to be pulseaudio, some way to fix it?
[19:02] <schultza> arta_: what is the problem you are having?
[19:02] <zacktu> zbeefy: it won't boot -- all i get is a blinking cursor
[19:02] <violinappren> Sysi: only in VLC?
[19:02] <schultza> Sysi: if it happens in other programs as well, I'd suspect it's the file that has recorded static/crackling
[19:02] <zbeefy> zacktu: at which point, since the beginning of the bootup process? Is BIOS set to boot off of this drive?
[19:03] <WoLf> Hello everyone, I've just updated my ubuntu installation to 12.04 and I'm having an issue trying to fix a problem.. I can't get tleds to work anymore, and it's listed as removed from this version..
[19:03] <arta_> does anyone else
[19:03] <arta_> plans for remastering my internet needs
[19:03] <arta_> can help to provide advice or guidance on how the process of remastering...
[19:03] <bazhang> arta_, UCK
[19:03] <bazhang> !uck | arta_
[19:03] <Sysi> violinappren: I don't have other players installed, what should I compare with? something with gstreamer, mplayer?
[19:04] <bazhang> arta_, read that link First
[19:04] <violinappren> Sysi: download mplayer or gnome-media-player
[19:04] <violinappren> !remaster | arta_
[19:04] <zacktu> zbeefy: i've had it as the top -- also below the CD and used bios to select the hard drive when i wanted to test so i know that i'm trying to boot from the disk
[19:04] <WoLf> Is it removed cause it was not compatible anymore, or just cause it was obsolete? If so, which apt source can I add to retrieve it again without having to completely remove 12.04?
[19:04] <tim`> is anyone very familiar with the linker updates in 12.04? I am trying to link against an existing .so file but it is missing some symbols - I'm wondering if moving 11.10 to 12.04 could have caused this due to the whole non-exporting of symbols of dependent libraries business ?
[19:05] <ankush_> Hi, I have just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my Dell Vostro 1450 intel core i3, after installing some softwares, i  tried to restart, but now it freezes on purple loading screen, need help in diagnosing the problem
[19:06] <zacktu> zbeefy: i've booted system rescue cd and tried 2 options: 1) find a linux system and boot it; 2) boot from the hard disk ---- #1 works and #2 doesn't
[19:06] <zbeefy> zacktu: linux will be read from the CD into the RAM, so it will work
[19:07] <arta_> sorry sir
[19:07] <arta_> whether there is a translation language chat here?
[19:07] <arta_> I apologize for using the new ubuntu
[19:07] <zbeefy> zacktu: is it a laptop?
[19:07] <UncleSlippyFist> hello, everybody! I was simply wondering if there's an easy way to get a tiling window manager up and running? I don't feel like dealing with toooo much configuring
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | zacktu for your mbr and grub problems
[19:08] <arta_> I apologize for a long time back, because I have to translate in google traslate first
[19:08] <Escherial> hey, anyone happen to know if support for realtek wireless adapters has improved at all in 12.04? i tried installing it earlier, but was unable to work on account of being unable to connect to wireless routers that used any kind of encryption (WEP, WPA, etc.)
[19:08] <zbeefy> zacktu: try manually disconnecting the drive and connecting it back
[19:08] <piihb> escott: I'm having trouble with the Adobe download...
[19:09] <escott> piihb, details
[19:09] <Escherial> had to go back to 11.10, which paradoxically has better support for my rt3040 (which it recognizes as an rt2800pci for some reason)
[19:09] <arta_> thanks for the help pack
[19:10] <piihb> escott: I used the command: sudo apt-get install flashplugin non-free    It got to a certain point with the download and then said 'Processing triggers for update-notifier-common...[LINK]
[19:10] <piihb> escott: Just click the link?
[19:10] <ankush_> Hi, I have just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my Dell Vostro 1450 intel core i3, after installing some softwares, i  tried to restart, but now it freezes on purple loading screen, need help in diagnosing the problem
[19:10] <zacktu> zbeefy: this is a dell desktop -- i thought it would be a nice sandbox
[19:11] <escott> piihb, can you paste what you are seeing
[19:11] <UncleSlippyFist> is bluetile a viable tiling wm?
[19:11] <zacktu> zbeefy: i'll also ready over the suggestions on the thread that the bot sent - thanks for your help
[19:11] <zbeefy> zacktu: I remember I had problems like that once but that was because of bad sectors. I could only use the drive for storage.
[19:12] <WoLf> Nevermind my question I guess. there's so much stuff that went wrong in 12.04 I see now.. my apologies but I'm going back to 10.04 until it lasts.
[19:12] <zbeefy> zacktu: sorry I couldn't resolve it
[19:14] <zeidoz> is it possible to share a file in one user's home directory with another user?
[19:14] <piihb> escott: It seems that it was just taking it's time; no problems. Thanks!
[19:14] <Walex> zeidoz: if you set permissions (to 'group', 'other' or with an ACL).
[19:15] <escott> zeidoz, yes. unless you encrypted your home directory (that makes it harder). otherwise just create a group for the two users. sudo usermod -a -G newgroup username for both (DO NOT FORGET the -a) and chgrp filename
[19:15] <zeidoz> Walex: so chmod 777 should do it, right?
[19:15] <escott> zeidoz, 777 grants full access to everyone on the computer
[19:15] <zeidoz> escott: hmmm, still wouldn't work, not sure why
[19:15] <abhinavmehta> I'm bored with the traditional '$' or '#' character, displaying on my shell(terminal)….I want some new character as my Prompt. Anyone using something creative..?
[19:16] <zeidoz> well, at least i know it *should* work
[19:16] <zeidoz> oh, damn, nevermind
[19:16] <zeidoz> thanks escott
[19:16] <Sysi> violinappren: mplayer plays music fine when VLC gives broken sound, I guess I need new music player
[19:16] <escott> abhinavmehta, just change $PS1
[19:17] <abhinavmehta> escott: I know how to change, but I need some new character to change with..
[19:17] <Sysi> abhinavmehta: % or > works pretty well
[19:17] <abhinavmehta> Sysi: these are old too….isn't there some new-improvement.
[19:17] <yeats> abhinavmehta: that isn't really ubuntu support, is it?
[19:18] <abhinavmehta> yeats: I agree, it's not ubuntu support…but just asking fools here…if they are sing something interesting.
[19:18] <abhinavmehta> *oops folks
[19:18] <yeats> abhinavmehta: there's an offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic - fyi
[19:18] <abhinavmehta> that's auto-correct sorry..
[19:19] <abhinavmehta> *using
[19:21] <abhinavmehta> yeats: ok, I've taken this to #ubuntu-offtopic, but guess what I was talking about was a very general topic.
[19:22] <zowsz> i need work have a nice day
[19:23] <zbeefy> zeidoz: zero doesn't give permission, one grants permission, now binary: 1 = 001, 2 = 010, 3 = 011, 4 = 100, 5 = 101, 6 = 110, 7=111,  each digit in 3-digit-binary-number (like 111) stands for READ WRITE EXECUTE respectively. Permissions are given to USER GROUP OTHER. Therefore permission 7 will grant a USER: read write and execute. The next consecutive 7 will do the same to GROUP, another consecutive 7 will do the same to OTHER.
[19:23] <zbeefy> I only hope I explained it clear lol
[19:23] <zbeefy> clearly*
[19:23] <zbeefy> But this is valuable
[19:23] <zbeefy> easy to calculate
[19:25] <conanbatt_> im using ubuntu server for my web application, on an ec2- amazon instance with 8GB diskspace.  I am running out of harddrive space, but i dont get why. Ive tried to use du or find to find large files or folders, but nothing is bigger than half a Gig
[19:25] <schultza> conanbatt_: try df -h for human readable based on partition
[19:25] <glcheetham>                    .               ,.
[19:25] <glcheetham>                   T."-._..---.._,-"/|
[19:25] <glcheetham>                   l|"-.  _.v._   (" |
[19:25] <glcheetham>                   [l /.'_ \; _~"-.`-t
[19:25] <glcheetham>                   Y " _(o} _{o)._ ^.|
[19:25] <FloodBot1> glcheetham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <conanbatt_> yeah it says "/dev/xvda1            7.9G  7.9G     0 100%"
[19:26] <schultza> ouch!!
[19:26] <conanbatt_> it hasnt crashed yet, but its gradually growing
[19:26] <conanbatt_> i could delete some downloads and its clearly gradually expanding itself
[19:26] <yeats> conanbatt_: you'll want to act quickly
[19:26] <schultza> clean out the tmp dir recently?
[19:27] <FrankZZ> ?
[19:27] <conanbatt_> no, lets see
[19:27] <schultza> check log file sizes
[19:28] <schultza> then run through du with the /home /usr etc to find out where the data is all going.. -h for human readable
[19:28] <conanbatt_> tmp is 96k. I have deleted all my log files, which were decent, but none of them over 100 megs
[19:28] <conanbatt_> ok
[19:28] <schultza> set quotas so it doesnt happen again.. :)
[19:28] <MO_Handes> how to run the GUI file manager as root?
[19:28] <yeats> MO_Handes: 'gksu nautilus'
[19:28] <schultza> gksudo [filemanager program]
[19:32] <negev> hi, i have a ubuntu 12.04LTS box configured as a pptp client. the vpn connects and everything looks fine, I can ping the remote endpoint etc, but if i do:  $ curl --interface ppp0 ifconfig.me    it hangs. tcpdump shows the traffic going out over ppp0 and valid responses coming back, all with correct ip addresses, so i am confused as to why this doesn't work. oddly if i specific:  route add ifconfig.me dev ppp0, it then works, but that doesn't help me if i want to be
[19:33] <aquafore> hello\
[19:37] <hairy-dog> Does anyone know of any good NASA apps for Ubuntu?
[19:38] <carl-cbm> I am trying to configure the subpixel rendering on 12.04 - the best I can find online is a ref to a package 'ubuntu-tweak-tool' that is not shown in aptitude
[19:39] <OerHeks> hairy-dog, celestia is a nice skyviewer, never seen nasa apps besides openstack
[19:40] <fidel_> carl-cbm: there is ubuntu-tweak and gnome-tweak-tool (just to avoid name-confusion)
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> carl-cbm, ubuntu-tweak is a 3rd party with a PPA
[19:40] <UncleSlippyFist> oh lordy, I'm trying awesomewm. What did I get myself into?
[19:41] <flametai1> Hi everybody, would anyone know of a website or anything at all for getting themes for 12.04 LTS?
[19:41] <carl-cbm> the problem I am having is really bad font rendering  - when I move a terminal horizontally it does the thing where it looks like it is moving across a lot of black lines.
[19:42] <fidel_> flametai1: webupd8 reports about such things from time to time
[19:42] <schultza> conanbatt_ has a situation where du and df are not reporting the same thing for his system's disk usage
[19:43] <c0deMaster> I installed Macbuntu then removed it but now the globam app menu is not working, how can i renable it?
[19:44] <flametai1> fidel_, Thank you, I didn't even know this website existed. Seems very good for knowing about what's going on
[19:44] <LUXX_> hello guys, i need some help with the cheat sheet to access a drive. keyboard settings are fine, but somehow the pass isnt working... any suggestions?http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=eba097ee17afec56d455655406bdf09c&t=868681&page=4
[19:44] <OerHeks> c0deMaster, bleh, you were warned that we do not support macbuntu, now you want us to support the troubles it makes ?
[19:46] <c0deMaster> OerHeks, what is the name of the global app menu package?
[19:48] <jamms> indicator-appmenu
[19:50] <nascentmind> Hi. How do I make the apparmor module go to quiet mode. Its very noisy in the dmesg output
[19:50] <yggdrasil> L3tops:
[19:50] <yggdrasil> you in ?
[19:51] <L3tops> very busy but here
[19:51] <yggdrasil> ok
[19:51] <schultza> nascentmind: what is it complaining about?
[19:51] <yggdrasil> uhm i think i fianly got some time to mess with x, if your too busy its cool. wont matter in 3 hours.
[19:51] <yggdrasil> uh 2 hours...
[19:51] <nascentmind> schultza, mysql process terminated with status 1
[19:52] <nascentmind> schultza, whole list of mysql nonsense.
[19:52] <schultza> nascentmind: checking
[19:54] <schultza> nascentmind: check http://tanghus.net/2012/03/yet-another-mysql-vs-apparmor-barf/ about fixing apparmor for similar messages you are getting
[19:59] <maokei> anyone here with some experience ntfsundelete
[19:59] <maokei> I haave to restore data on a ntfs partition that has been formated but not overwritten
[20:00] <schultza> !datarecovery | maokei
[20:00] <schultza> hmm
[20:00] <maokei> !datarecovery
[20:03] <modernbob> is there a system-switch-mail for ubuntu
[20:03] <OerHeks> !testdisk
[20:03] <escott> maokei, testdisk might work
[20:04] <maokei> alright ill try giving it a go
[20:04] <unkn-error> I have changed to Text in /etc/defalut/grub the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text", but I wish to see more text, is there a way to increase the verbosity?
[20:05] <unkn-error>  like in " recovery mode"
[20:08] <OerHeks> unkn-error, the text that rolls on your screen in recovery or normal boot mode, are different anyhow. "text"option in grub is all there is.
[20:09] <guntbert> unkn-error: try to add "noquiet"
[20:10] <BlueWolf> Hi, Does reinstalling a computer with ubuntu clear out the registry? I am trying to learn more about the Linux operating system and I thought it would be good to know how to erase the registry so that no one can see stuff?
[20:10] <Aprel> The windows registry. No, ubuntu won't clear that
[20:10] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, mbr ?
[20:11] <unkn-error> sudo update-grub or sudo update-grub2? is there a difference?
[20:11] <schultza> BlueWolf: there is no registry like in windows in ubuntu. Ubuntu has a collection of config files throughout the whole computer though.
[20:11] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:11] <BlueWolf> Aprel: Ya a windows one.
[20:11] <BlueWolf> schultza: Is that cleared when one reinstall Ubuntu with Ubuntu or Windows?
[20:12] <unkn-error> BlueWolf: your nick was my nick name ten years ago :D
[20:12] <Aprel> BlueWolf: Only a windows reinstall will clear the windows registry. Or edit the registry manually
[20:12] <schultza> BlueWolf: in order to clear out the history, you will have to delete all partitions and start fresh. But keep in mind the hard drive keeps the last 7 bits per bit.. so it's still possible to get that information.
[20:13] <Aprel> BlueWolf: Though many "registry errors" reported by those "free-scan" online programs are just cons to get you to install tehir software
[20:13] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:13] <BlueWolf> unkn-error: Funny, Mine now :D
[20:13] <cccangel> Aprel, there is also the Win PE that can be used for offline registery edits...
[20:13] <schultza> BlueWolf: i dont mean to make you paranoid, but most hard drives are magnetic and will retain prior information.
[20:13] <guntbert> unkn-error: yes, there is a big difference, you probably want sudo update-grub
[20:14] <BlueWolf> schultza, Aprel: So is it possible for an experienced Hacker to recover sensitive information?
[20:14] <cccangel> schultza, lol... is that why some people will download programs to format their hd like 10 times with different methods?
[20:15] <schultza> BlueWolf: most companies that have what they consider top secret (not to be released to the world) will first do a DoD-7 level wipe and then destroy the hard drive physically.
[20:15] <Aprel> BlueWolf: yeah, if they have access to your hard drive. There are tools that can help ""permanently"" delete your data in Ubuntu
[20:15] <cccangel> BlueWolf, yes.  an experienced person can use fragmented data left in sectors on your harddrive to compose complete file headers then restore files.
[20:15] <unkn-error> BlueWolf: If I will gonna take your hardisk from your computer and run a data recovery software I will gonna see all the "pictures, banners" etc. from the site you visited
[20:15] <schultza> or if they are keeping it.. keep it on top secret level and just dod-7 wipe
[20:15] <maokei> whats the propper way to unmount a a harddrive in ubuntu sudo unmount /dev/sda2
[20:16] <unkn-error> BlueWolf: but if the hardisk is encrypted then I would not have a chance
[20:16] <mahsom> I need Yahoo messenger with support webcam and voice .
[20:16] <schultza> maokei: umount, not unmount
[20:16] <escott> maokei, you can also mount and unmount without sudo using "udisks"
[20:16] <Aprel> Bluewolf: something like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/partition_you_want_to_wipe can help delete data permanently.
[20:16] <maokei> alright
[20:17] <schultza> escott: udisks?
[20:17] <escott> schultza, the backend that nautilus uses
[20:17] <Aprel> I say "help" delete because some organizations like the NSA only recommend phyiscal destruction of the drive to wipe it clean
[20:17] <cccangel> Aprel, BlueWolf , there is a program i stumbled into that can encrypt your harddrive with multiple layers...
[20:17] <cccangel> but its a pain to set up
[20:17] <unkn-error> BlueWolf: you may wish to "wipe" a hardisk, one pass is just enough - really, you will not need gutmann or etc. for home usage, and on a 74-80 gb hdd will gonna take about 2-3 or 4 hours depending by the controler
[20:17] <cancer> i want to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary'
[20:17] <schultza> Aprel: that's the 3rd stage in a 7-run wipe (DoD-7)
[20:18] <Aprel> ccangel: truecrypt?
[20:18] <cccangel> Aprel, yes thats the one
[20:18] <cancer> i want to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary'
[20:18] <unkn-error> tryecrypt is very nice, if you will not encrypt the whole hardisk
[20:18] <BlueWolf> schultza: I once Zeroed my hard disk, sorry don't know what the name is but it wipe everything off better that formating. Dose that delete all the information or can it still be salvaged?
[20:19] <Aprel> schultza: you mean they recommend certain steps before incineration of the drive? lol, what do they think can be recovered from an incinerated drive?
[20:19] <unkn-error> I currently speak with you guy's from a Sandboxed Brownser which resides in a Tryecrypt container
[20:19] <hairy-dog> Quick question: does anyone know any good sites for Ubuntu specific C++ programming so I can start programming applications for Ubuntu?
[20:20] <cccangel> unkn-error, lol... i couldnt ever sit through the process of setting truecrypt up. too lengthy
[20:20] <Aprel> BlueWolf: zeroing out completely an hdd probably makes it unrecoverable to most hackers.
[20:20] <guntbert> !ot | schultza unkn-error Aprel
[20:21] <BlueWolf> Aprel: But can information still be accessed and put back together?
[20:21] <cccangel> hairy-dog, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656721
[20:22] <cccangel> hairy-dog, scroll down and look at the think available
[20:22] <hairy-dog> thank you
[20:22] <unkn-error> BlueWolf: I really need to write an article about this subject, I hope it will be ready in two weeks
[20:23] <BlueWolf> unkn-error: And you point on Earth is? :D
[20:23] <cccangel> BlueWolf, if your data isn't wiped up with the programs that offer DoD 7 wipe, then it can be recovered
[20:23] <amh345> is anyone here using google authenticator?  having a problem where it's not accepting my password
[20:23] <cccangel> but also realize BlueWolf that technology is not perfect (ever) so if someone is motivated to do anything, it can be achieved
[20:23] <cccangel> period
[20:23] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:24] <BlueWolf> cccangel: What exactly is "DoD 7 wipe" ?
[20:24] <unkn-error> BlueWolf: will be www.marcelcuculici.tk
[20:24]  * cccangel goes to google
[20:24] <Aprel> BlueWolf: it's more of a security question. Probably not, especially without physical access to the drive. The CIA, NSA, or government security organization in your area will have a much more detailed analysis of how to have complete piece of mind when destroying sensitive ddata.
[20:24] <unkn-error> BlueWolf check this out: http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1211/~/how-to-low-level-format-or-write-zeros-(full-erase)-to-a-wd-hard-drive-or-solid#windlg
[20:25] <cancer> Aprel: unkn-error: how to remove these from jockey 'nvidia binary xorg driver, module kernal and VDPAU libarary' PLEASE
[20:25] <cccangel> BlueWolf, check this out as well... (i love google) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tools-to-delete-files-securely-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[20:25] <salvatore> I am trying to install Windows 7 on VM but i got this error: cannot boot from cd code 5...anyone experienced this??
[20:25] <unkn-error> and this one http://www.marksanborn.net/howto/wiping-a-hard-drive-with-dd/
[20:27] <Aprel> salvatore: are you using virtualbox or vmware?
[20:27] <salvatore> virtual box
[20:28] <salvatore> any solution?
[20:28] <BlueWolf> So basically the only people able to recover data from a hard disk that has been zeroed is CIA and other government authorities?
[20:28] <BlueWolf> Not basic hackers?
[20:29] <Aprel> BlueWolf: Not necessarily, but they'll share some tips with you on how you can fullyd estroy your data
[20:30] <guntbert> BlueWolf: please move that discussion (to #ubuntu-offtopic for instance) - it has nothing to do with ubuntu-support
[20:30] <Aprel> salvatore: are you using the phyiscal cd for the install or a ripped iso?
[20:31] <salvatore> physical cd
[20:31] <guntbert> salvatore: vbox support can be found in #vbox
[20:31] <salvatore> then i tried to mount directly the iso
[20:32] <dhalsim22> hi
[20:32] <salvatore> ok then...if nobody can help me here i'll try in vbox channel....thanks!
[20:32] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:32] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:32] <BlueWolf> Aprel: Sorry could I move this conversation to offtopic before I get kicked off this chat as some people find it a custom.
[20:32] <FloodBot1> BlueWolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <BlueWolf> guntbert: Moving now, sorry to bother you with my conversation. :D
[20:33] <dhalsim22> i've got a problem, I use the accessibility options and now I have big fonts and a gigantic cursor, how can I revert to normal?
[20:33] <nelson777br> hello I was trying to fix the video of my 12.04, and now it just won't show any. Just a blank screen appears with truncated characters in it. No GUI. How can I restore a minimal video from a live cd ? I have a blacklisted Geforce 7300
[20:34] <nelson777br> I just want it to find nouveu driver
[20:34] <nelson777br> acctually ANY working driver
[20:34] <escott> nelson777br, just uninstall the nvidia driver and then it should fall back to nouveau
[20:35] <nelson777br> I were using nouveau and don't have nvidia installed when I get into this problem
[20:36] <escott> !nomodeset | nelson777br
[20:36] <nelson777br> I only have access to the partition via the live cd / mount partition
[20:36] <escott> nelson777br, you can chroot in and run apt commands
[20:37] <nelson777br> ok then
[20:37] <nelson777br> I'll try
[20:38] <guntbert> !chroot | nelson777br
[20:39] <nelson777br> escott, guntberg: thnx
[20:42] <modernbob> is there a way to make postfix the default mail mta
[20:42] <escott> modernbob, check /etc/alternatives
[20:44] <modernbob> escott: is that executable?
[20:44] <escott> modernbob, no its a directory of symlinks
[20:45] <modernbob> escott: don't see anything that looks like postfix.. is there a system-switch-mail for ubuntu
[20:45] <escott> modernbob, update-alternatives is designed to interface with /etc/alternatives
[20:46] <modernbob> escott: how do you use it
[20:47] <escott> modernbob, is bsd-mailx an mta>?
[20:48]  * Hayro #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2
[20:48]  * Hayro #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2
[20:48] <escott> modernbob, i think update-alternatives --list mailx should list the options
[20:49] <modernbob> escott: I have no idea
[20:49] <modernbob> escott: that didn't work
[20:50] <salvatore_> Hi guys i've been to #vbox...but they cant helmp me...again: I am trying to install Windows 7 on VM but i got this error: cannot boot from cd code 5...anyone experienced this??
[20:50] <escott> modernbob, didn't work?
[20:50] <onekt> using skype & chrome,  if one plays audio,  the other cannot find a playback device.  How to manage or work around?  using alsa.
[20:51] <modernbob> escott: nothing came up
[20:51] <Aprel> salvatore_ I looked that error online but didn't find much useful. Most people said it's from a burned copy of a win-install cd, and it's some copy-protection remnant from MS, it seems
[20:52] <escott> modernbob, "update-alternatives --list mailx" printed nothing?
[20:53] <BFranks> Reading https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html  .. it claims that vsftpd allows anon login by default.. yet both the 'ftp' and 'anonymous' users give me 'bad password' failures?
[20:54] <modernbob> escott: just said no alternative to postfix.. so my issue is this.. postfix doesn't appear to be listening ...  but when I do netstat its listening.. no mail though from outside. when I poke that port from outside machine postfix isn't there even though in main.cf protocal is all and interface is all
[20:54] <jonny> ciao
[20:54] <jonny> !list
[20:54] <escott> modernbob, firewall?
[20:54] <modernbob> escott: checked it and port 25 is open
[20:54] <jonny> no
[20:55] <jonny> tu?
[20:56] <escott> modernbob, so port is open in netstat, not firewall or NAT, but from outside you cant get in. can you get a response locally. What about telnetting in and just saying HELO (is HELO correct?)
[20:56] <E144> Someone told me that 12.04 handels x displays differently for multipule monitors, does anyone know what changed
[20:56] <minas> Hi. Is there a possibility that the proprietary graphics drivers be worse than the open source ones or even causing problems?
[20:56] <schultza> HELO is used on mail servers
[20:56] <modernbob> escott: checking nat/router firewall now
[20:57] <E144> Minas: most ppl dont notice the diff from closed and open
[20:57] <modernbob> escott: no joy..  maybe time to uninstall postfix and start over
[20:57] <E144> Minas: even Intel card ppl have difficulty from what i hear
[20:58] <xxxxxxx> elo
[20:58] <schultza> xxxxxxx: no new mail at this time
[20:58] <schultza> :)
[20:58] <xxxxxxx> ktos od samby dla poczatkujacego
[20:58] <minas> E144: I'm asking because sometimes my pc just freezes for a few moments, then logs off itself. Then the screen flickers all the time... I was using the proprietary ATI driver. Is there a possibility that that was the problem?
[20:58] <schultza> !english | xxxxxxx
[21:00] <guntbert> !pl | xxxxxxx
[21:01] <escott> minas, is there a possibility. yes
[21:01] <schultza> guntbert: i need to learn other langauges so i can tell which one is which.
[21:01] <xxxxxxx> ok im new one on lubuntu- 12.04 and need some help with samba configuration
[21:01] <minas> escott: Thank you! I hope the problem will disappear now :)
[21:02] <n-iCe> got a raid 1 problem in 12.04 after upgrade - it doesn't mount , hw controller sees the raid fine, os not so much
[21:02] <escott> n-iCe, what kind of hardware raid?
[21:03] <E144> I had a similar problem a while ago something with mdam fixed my raid 1
[21:05] <n-iCe> uhm .. can't recall what brand or make it is, can I see that somewhere without opening the case up?, its a card escott
[21:05] <schultza> n-iCe: yes.. .lspci
[21:06] <escott> n-iCe, lspci. i guess check your /etc/modules and maybe rerun update-initramfs to make sure the module is in the initramfs
[21:07] <persona24> Hello, I can't get Oracle Virtualbox to work. Is there another app I can use?
[21:07] <n-iCe> escott: 01:07.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)
[21:07] <Aprel> persona24: vmware
[21:07] <n-iCe> #vbox  persona24
[21:08] <n-iCe> escott: http://pastebin.com/JqCNNVG9
[21:09] <schultza> otherwise, ive seen pictures of austria
[21:10] <schultza> oops
[21:10] <persona24> n-iCe: I don't think this is a virtualbox problem. . . I try to start an emulation and there's an error saying "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)"
[21:10] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:10] <BlueWolf> schultza: Ok here. Oh and the Ubuntu is 7.04 as thats what the computer can handle. It's just a basic work type computer, not a gaming one. Ready
[21:10] <jonny> ciao
[21:10] <jonny> !list
[21:10] <E144> N-Ice: Silicon Image 3114, i had a board in raid 1 with that config, asus a8nsli premium
[21:11] <schultza> BlueWolf: open up terminal
[21:11] <BlueWolf> schultza: Sorry it took so long complication after complication, it's just loading the cd now, how long will this take it's a 40GB hard disk?
[21:11] <schultza> BlueWolf: awhile
[21:12] <skyl> in 12.04, can I browse the -dev packages? The software center doesn't seem to search through them and I don't know exactly what I want ...
[21:12] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:12] <BlueWolf> schultza: 2 hours, because this computer makes a noise and I am in my room and bed time is soon? :D
[21:13] <skyl> for instance, I want to look around for packages related to directfb but I don't know if there is a graphical interface to do so as there was in previous versions of ubuntu
[21:13] <nug700> I just accessed ubuntu website for the first time in a few months, but i can't find ubuntu 10 download anymore..
[21:13] <schultza> BlueWolf: it will take at least 2 hours.
[21:14] <guggero> hey all! Can someone tell me how I assign a fixed device name (e.g. /dev/sdX) to an USB drive? It keeps changing on every boot and mixing with my SATA disks and therefore messing with my ZFS setup. Thanks for any advice!
[21:14] <kelvinella> n-iCe: hello there?
[21:14] <escott> guggero, you cant
[21:15] <zykotick9> guggero: that's why UUIDs or LABELS are recommended
[21:15] <escott> guggero, us "sudo blkid" to identify uuids and mount with those
[21:15] <BlueWolf> schultza: Ok then could you paste a step by step in the private chat so I can do it another time. What I type in what to do etc. Then if I get stuck I will come for help tomorrow.
[21:15] <guggero> ok, then how can I change my ZFS setup to use UUIDs without losing all data?
[21:15] <BlueWolf> :D
[21:15] <guggero> I'm kind of new to ZFS
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> you mean the fstab entries?
[21:16] <skyl> I guess `apt-cache search` is the way
[21:16] <nug700> where would i go to download ubuntu 10? it doesn't seem to be in the download section on the ubuntu website.
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> the ftp servers i thought had all the old iso versions.
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> you mean 10.04 ?
[21:17] <nimei> Hi. Is there some option such as: '--ask-me-everything-at-the-start-and-then-do-it-automatically' for the Ubuntu Server ISO installer?
[21:17] <schultza> !pastebin
[21:17] <nug700> yes
[21:17] <Mr_Spray> good evening all, I am running 12.04 LTS and I ran update-manager last night and after the updates I rebooted.  Update-manager will no longer run (script errors), anyone able to help if I pm the error?
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[21:18] <nug700> thanks
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[21:18] <dijonyummy> how to scroll up in a tmux pane/window inside konsole. seems tmux disables konsole scrollback ability
[21:18] <elanz> what's the best ldap client for ubuntu
[21:18] <zykotick9> nug700: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> dijonyummy:  try pageup/pagedown?
[21:19] <dijonyummy> dont work
[21:19] <E144> Cool?
[21:20] <svasdasd> /dev/disk/by-id
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> dijonyummy  or ctrl-page up/down
[21:20] <guntbert> dijonyummy: I hear tmux is similar to screen,  in screen I use <ctrl>A<esc>
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> byobu/screen <3
[21:20] <Mr_Spray> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007177/
[21:20] <nimei> Also: is there a way to replicate an ubuntu install on another machine? (the same exact packages/configuration/everything that runs on this machine)
[21:21] <ohad> hello
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> !clone| nimei
[21:21] <svasdasd>   /dev/disk/by-id
[21:22] <zykotick9> nimei: the !clone factoid looks after package installation, but you'd need to copy configs separately
[21:22] <nimei> MonkeyDust: would that also replicate all the configuration and user folders ($HOME)? Is it enough to just copy it verbatim?
[21:22] <ohad> why does my brightness bar have only 6 phases? during restart it has more phases but when entering ubuntu, there are only 6. under 10.04 I had more options...
[21:22] <nimei> MonkeyDust, zykotick9, good, thanks. :)
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> nimei:  if you want a exact clone, you can use clonezilla. or get fancy with dd
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> nimei:  but if the pcs are going to be on the same lan you would need to change hostnames and so foth
[21:23] <guggero> zykotick9: thanks for the hint about the UUID. I was searching on the wrong end. I now changed my ZFS configuration to use /dev/disk/by-id/ instead of just /dev
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> nimei  and don't forget to backup personal documents
[21:23] <nimei> Dr_Willis: yes. they are on the same LAN. 'dd' seems an interesting option.
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> nimei:  if to more then 1 pc.. clonezilla is an amazeing tool
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> even for one pc to antoerh pc.. its very handy
[21:25] <nimei> Dr_Willis: would grub work after 'dd'? I mean, probably different disk ids or such stuff.
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> nimei:  the uuids would be the same.
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> nimei:  if the HDs are differnt sizes you would need to fix that also.
[21:26] <escott> nimei, dd is low level so you can capture everything, but that raises the question why would you want to capture everything.
[21:26] <Sargun-Work> How much disk space does the default ubuntu pool take up
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> dd even copies the empty space. ;)
[21:26] <nimei> Oh.
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> dd most likely copies dark matter btween the hd tracks.. ;P
[21:26] <nimei> Well, since that will take forever I think I'll probably try clonezilla first or the factoid.
[21:27] <nimei> Thanks to everyone for the hints. :)
[21:27] <E144> I just boot a livecd with both drives on the computer and copy paste XD
[21:27] <ohad> no one encountered this??
[21:27] <escott> Sargun-Work, depends on how much you install 10-20Gigs is sufficient for a fully loaded desktop
[21:28] <E144> But clonezilla is good too mainly for copying disks when theyre dying or ur attempting file recovery
[21:28] <escott> ohad, you can dig around with acpi stuff in /sys
[21:29] <ohad> I want to change the increments for each click on the Fn+brightness button
[21:32] <tzhuang> Hey guys. I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04. My MSN account running through Empathy disconnects everytime I type something to one of my contacts. Can anyone help with this?
[21:33] <ernandosousa> k
[21:33] <Sargun-Work> How does the pool directory on a debian mirror differ than the dists/$DISTNAME
[21:33] <noel_g> I am trying to understand how subdomain resolution is working for me.  I set up a server at my company and requested a dns entry for myserver.mycompany.com  I set up apache and a vhost to that and all is fine.  Then I deployed other apps to app1.myserver.mycompany.com app2.myserver.mycompany.com  but I did not request DNS entries for app1 or app2.  they work, but I am trying to understand how those names are resolving
[21:35] <escott> noel_g, no idea myself but i would start by digging the app1.myserver.mycompany.com and seeing what you get back
[21:37] <L3tops> yggdrasil: werent we just going to shutdown the DM and run nvidia-xconfigure?
[21:37] <Aprel> Just downloaded oracle's java runtime (I need it over openjdk). I extracted the tar file and it has a bin dir and a lib dir but no install script. What's the proper way to manually install binary files from an extracted tar?
[21:37] <|DM|> plz don't shut me down :D
[21:38] <L3tops> yggdrasil: sorry I am very tied up trying to get this guy that is only on a few hours at a time on the other side of the world to run annoying to figure out code.
[21:38] <L3tops> yggdrasil: but if that is what we were doing, anyone can help you.
[21:38] <escott> Aprel, i would imagine unpack it to /opt and then change /etc/alternatives symlinks with update-alternatives to point to your version in /opt
[21:38] <noel_g> escott: thanks
[21:39] <Aprel> escott: do I have to add any links to /usr/bin?
[21:39] <propman> the information at the following url has changed.   I am trying to access (find) a copy of the original information at that url......any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
[21:39] <propman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command_Line_and_Rescue_Mode
[21:40] <ohad> I'm using a thinkpad and it seems like the hdaps isn't working. I installed hdapsd and hdaps-utils
[21:40] <escott> Aprel, /usr/bin/java symlinks to /etc/alternatives
[21:41] <klync> is there anything running by default that would cache nfs uid/gid
[21:41] <klync> .... having weird problems with autofs after changing a user's numeric id
[21:41] <Aprel> escott: ah, I see. curious: is there any disadvantage to just changing the link at /usr/bin/java to point inside /opt?
[21:42] <escott> Aprel, update-alternatives is the way you are meant to do things
[21:46] <Aprel> escott: oh, just realized now that update-alternatives is a program designed for this thing (on hearing it, thought it was a dir full of symlinks). thanks.
[21:52] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; trying to run meld; but getting some weird errors:  https://gist.github.com/5ea9c52fde934f8b2dd9 ... ideas on how to fix?
[21:52] <escott> !find patch | arooni-mobile
[21:53] <prodigel> hi all. I have a partition/mbr problem. I have a big extended partition which I've resized to create some 50 GB of free space at the end, and from windows I've created a new ntfs partition in that space. I wanted to be on the safe side with all this, but the contrary happened. Now grub is corrupted, gparted shows me 'unallocated partition' while fdisk sees them properly. The data is there, as I can mount the linux partition without problems. Is there an
[21:53] <prodigel> easy way to fix this? Thanks
[21:54] <prodigel> ... now I'm using a live usb drive to check all this
[21:54] <Yewbacca> Hi. Does anyone know how to tune the Samba server in Ubuntu to make a folder with 30000 files faster over the network? Actually, the issue is this: If I mount the SMB sharepoint and view it in a terminal and just type "ls", I get a super fast listing of all files. The issue is that Mac OS X does the equivalent of ls -l, by requesting attributes and modification times for every freaking file.
[21:54] <Yewbacca> The result is that it takes like half an hour to open the folder. Can samba somehow cache file attributes and return them faster? :S
[21:54] <escott> !paste | prodigal send us the output of sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[21:55] <Frank-N-Steen> prodigel, how is grub involved?
[21:56] <Frank-N-Steen> prodigel, Did you move the front of a Linux partition?
[21:56] <prodigel> Frank-N-Steen, after rebooting from windows it give me an error,  and the recovery console
[21:57] <prodigel> Frank-N-Steen, didn't touch the start of the partition, I've made it smaller, taking from the end, no movement
[21:57] <Frank-N-Steen> !bootinfo | prodigel Run the is script and pasebin it.
[21:57] <Frank-N-Steen> this*
[21:58] <unkn-error> ubuntu 12.04 have runlevels?
[21:59] <Frank-N-Steen> unkn-error, it is linux it must
[21:59] <edgy> hi, # hostname && hostname -f
[21:59] <edgy> server8
[21:59] <edgy> hostname: Name or service not known
[21:59] <escott> !runlevel | unkn-error
[21:59] <edgy> why I cannot get fqdn?
[22:00] <Frank-N-Steen> !pastebin > Edgan
[22:00] <Frank-N-Steen> Edgan, sorry, ;) not for you my bad
[22:01] <unkn-error> how can I find in what runlevel is my machine? (init / telinit) gives me nothing
[22:01] <OerHeks> with the desktop gui you are in 7
[22:02] <unkn-error> I have no gui :)
[22:03] <bastidrazor> unkn-error: runlevels do not mean anything in Ubuntu now.
[22:03] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; trying to run meld: Invoking 'patch' failed.  Maybe you don't have 'GNU patch' installed,or you use an untested version of Git. ..... dont know what to do now
[22:04] <unkn-error> sysv-rc-conf show me some runleveles this is why I was asking, because I really need to disable some services
[22:04] <escott> arooni-mobile, in what way would meld depend on git?
[22:04] <arooni-mobile> escott, no idea... i'm running it on a git directory
[22:04] <arooni-mobile> escott, but thats the error message i get
[22:04] <unkn-error> I have too mutch ram "eaten"
[22:05] <escott> arooni-mobile, have you set meld as your git merge tool?
[22:05] <linux4u> just for it to come out the other end unkn-error
[22:05] <arooni-mobile> escott, i'm just running meld from the command line
[22:05] <arooni-mobile> escott, meld . in the git directory
[22:06] <unkn-error> linux4u: huh?
[22:06] <escott> arooni-mobile, i would try running meld outside the git dir just in case there is some weird interaction there
[22:06] <nimei> unkn-error: how are you looking at how much ram is being eaten?
[22:06] <linux4u> NM
[22:06] <prodigel> Frank-N-Steen, http://pastebin.com/La0cjSjD let me know if it helps ...
[22:06] <unkn-error> with free -m
[22:07] <linux4u> guys, is setting up mdadm during install pretty bug proof?
[22:07] <nimei> unkn-error: are you taking account of the cached memory?
[22:07] <arooni-mobile> escott, but i need meld for that dir
[22:08] <unkn-error> nimei: I wish too look on what is starting up automaitcally and disable some stuff, also I wish to enable other stuff
[22:09] <unkn-error> beside this I installed the machine in the morning and after reboot had 128 mb free, now after installing a lot of software, it has only 16 or 8 mb free after reboot
[22:09] <escott> arooni-mobile, yes and we are trying to figure out what the problem is. so why dont we start by seeing if something specific to that directory is the problem
[22:09] <Him> Hi all. I'm trying to connect to a Netgear Wifi Range Extender that I bought, but it keeps giving me an error. Something along the lines of it being a .local domain and incompatible with avahi. Anything I can do to remedy this?
[22:10] <catmistake> hello. looking for a little direction... with getting teh wireless card up on my edgy box (don't laugh... sick uptimes, does whats needed). old a22m died, swapped drive into t43 and it boots... would love teh wireless cared to work... not sure where to begin. is there an chan for old ubuntu installs?
[22:10] <arooni-mobile> escott, well i can open it on a different directory ;  and open files there
[22:10] <Frank-N-Steen> prodigel, from the live cd run these commands, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007256/
[22:10] <Jordan_U> prodigel: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[22:11] <nimei> unkn-error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services (second answer)
[22:11] <nosse1> Finally I've merged over to 12.04 (from natty) and I'm trying to adopt to the new unity stuff. Is there some way I can add a workspace switcher on the top "panel" ?
[22:11] <escott> arooni-mobile, what is the command you are running to start meld in that git dir
[22:11] <escott> linux4u, if you know what you are doing sure. remember to use the alternate installer
[22:11] <Frank-N-Steen> prodigel, but follow Jordan_U as well you are in good hands.
[22:12] <unkn-error> nimei: thank you really, I was google for this but I did hit only unnoficial sites
[22:12] <nimei> unkn-error: np. :)
[22:13] <linux4u> escott, is it another iso?
[22:13] <escott> !alternate | linux4u
[22:14] <prodigel>  Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/puxRZ6WW
[22:14] <arooni-mobile> escott, meld .
[22:14] <linux4u> escott, I am doing server? is there an alternate for server?
[22:14] <catmistake> followup... bah... nevermind... sources won't work on edgy, obviously... if i can find the debs i can install the stuff i need. thx for teh quick response. carry on.
[22:15] <escott> arooni-mobile, when you run it that way it does something to parse the .git directory. evidently it doesnt like your version of git.
[22:15] <escott> linux4u, i dont think so, but you could also try !minimal and install the ubuntu-server target
[22:16] <prodigel> Frank-N-Steen, when trying to grub-install it complains: bad boot flag | Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. | will not proceed with blocklist
[22:16] <arooni-mobile> escott, should i try a different version of git?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> prodigel: The starting sector for sda7 is 2,941,963,786 but your drive only has 976,773,168 sectors.
[22:16] <escott> arooni-mobile, i dont know how you would but sure
[22:17] <linux4u> escott, so the default server iso should allow me to do software raid?
[22:17] <prodigel> Jordan_U, the windows partition manager probably f**ed it up. I saw something strange looking there, but I continued on it, as I couldn't do more about it
[22:17] <escott> linux4u, is the server iso otherwise a normal debian installer?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> prodigel: Please watch your language, obfuscated or otherwise,
[22:18] <prodigel> Jordan_U, sorry about that
[22:18] <zaki> hi all i need help on wifi on ubuntu 12.04
[22:19] <Frank-N-Steen> prodigel, something is amiss Jordan_U is your best contact at this point.
[22:19] <nodestool> hi zaki
[22:19] <zaki> hi nodestool
[22:19] <Frank-N-Steen> better than me anyway, lol
[22:19] <Jordan_U> prodigel: Try the utility "fixparts". It's good at figuring out how things actually should be. If it can't get you to a state where all your partitions are readable try testdisk as well (which can search your drive to find where filesystems start/end and create a new partition table based on that information).
[22:19] <nodestool> zaki: what is your question
[22:19] <dbummy> clear
[22:20] <Him> Hi all. I'm trying to connect to a Netgear Wifi Range Extender that I bought, but it keeps giving me an error. Something along the lines of it being a .local domain and incompatible with avahi. Anything I can do to remedy this? Running Ubuntu 11.10
[22:20] <zaki> nodestool: i hav pro vth my wifi its connected bt i cant able to browse internet
[22:20] <nodestool> can you `ping yahoo.com` ?
[22:20] <nodestool> traceroute yahoo.com
[22:21] <zaki> nodestool: no
[22:21] <nodestool> and `traceroute yahoo.com` ?
[22:22] <nodestool> zaki: did you try via the ethernet cable?
[22:22] <zaki> ya thn its working
[22:23] <zaki> nodestool: bt trough wifi i cant able to
[22:24] <nodestool> zaki: can you ping the router?
[22:26] <zaki> nodestool: its showing 192.168.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data
[22:29] <zaki> nodestool" are you vth me
[22:29] <PWIHAMSTER> Hey guys, how can I prevent my porn from showing up on the Unity menu as recent files?
[22:29] <zaki> nodestool: are you vth me
[22:31] <Frank-N-Steen> PWIHAMSTER, turn off the save history in privacy in system settings probably, and clear it all, lol
[22:31] <PWIHAMSTER> But I'd like the rest of the stuff to show up though :(
[22:32] <Guest71249> You could chown your porn files to another user
[22:32] <Frank-N-Steen> PWIHAMSTER, can't help you there really, just don't know
[22:32] <Frank-N-Steen> lol
[22:32] <trism> PWIHAMSTER: on the files tab, there is a option to ignore directories (or file types), I haven't tried it though
[22:40] <face> I need help with .asoundrc
[22:40] <amine_> bonsoir a tous
[22:40] <face> please????
[22:41] <OerHeks> !ask | face
[22:42] <amine_> qui peu m aider
[22:43] <face> Im trying to create a asoundrc file to make my USB Audio Kontrol 1 soundcard work with Mixx
[22:43] <Fuchs> amine_: en français? Ici probablement personne. Essaie #ubuntu-fr
[22:43] <Fuchs> amine_: ou demande en anglais :)
[22:44] <face> Im trying to create a asoundrc file to make my USB Audio Kontrol 1 soundcard work with Mixx but I have no idea where to start. Ive used [vi /home/xxx/.asoundrc] but it doesnt seem to work. How do I create and save a .asoundrc file???
[22:44] <OerHeks> face, something like asoundconf set-default-card <PARAMETER> >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/asoundconf.1.html
[22:45] <zaki> can anyone help on wifi issue
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Hello channel what is the logout from the terminal command?
[22:45] <OerHeks> open terminal, " alsamixer " and select the usb with F6
[22:46] <amine_> jai un pblm avec prise on charge des longe ??
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> to the login
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> running precise
[22:46] <thebrasse> hi! after upgrading to 12.04 my ubuntu installation won't remember my wireless password. it prompts for it everytime i start the laptop. it can connect fine once i have entered the password. anyone have a clue why this might be?
[22:47] <OerHeks> wilee-nilee, just type "logout"
[22:47] <nimei> wilee-nilee: or try `exit'
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> thebrasse, have you gone into the edit?
[22:47] <amine_> ok dsl
[22:47] <OerHeks> nimei exit wil close terminal
[22:48] <nimei> well, yes it will
[22:48] <Banan^> hi
[22:48] <Banan^> sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sde1
[22:48] <Banan^> what's wrong with that syntax?`
[22:48] <thebrasse> wilee-nilee: yes, i entered the password there as well, and saved it. still doesn't work..
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> logout does not work and of course exit closese the terminal
[22:48] <Banan^> trying to mount a windows raid 1 system - it disappered after 12.04 upgrade
[22:48] <OerHeks> Banan^, missing mountpoint afer /dev/sde1
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> thebrasse, strange, not sure.
[22:49] <OerHeks> c/afer/after
[22:49] <Banan^> so what would I write?
[22:49] <Banan^> as the mountpoint?
[22:50] <amine_> .
[22:50] <R33p3R> hello
[22:50] <BobMarley> R33p3R,  we are not very hellowish here, but anyway hello
[22:51] <XiRoN> Hi
[22:51] <mkanyicy> Banan^, you can create a new folder and use it as a mountpoint or an existing folder
[22:52] <thebrasse> where is the wifi password saved on disk?
[22:52] <XiRoN> How do I install the PHP extention FreeType GD on ubuntu?
[22:52] <LordOfTime> XiRoN:  apt-get install php5-gd
[22:52] <mkanyicy> Banan^, so your full statement would be: sudo mount -o umask=0222 /dev/sde1 /mnt/myfolder
[22:52] <XiRoN> LordOfTime: That's what I thought but apparently that doesn't work :/
[22:53] <Banan^> ah
[22:53] <Banan^> I see you dropped the nls=utf8 there - any reason?
[22:53] <mkanyicy> Banan^, this assumes that you have created a folder like: sudo mkdir /mnt/myfolder
[22:53] <nulldev> xiron whats dpkg --list | grep php show?
[22:54] <mkanyicy> Banan^, first -t ntfs is no longer needed
[22:54] <golffik> got a sligt problem
[22:55] <golffik> and need help, anybody?
[22:55] <digitalslave> anyone know of a bug im assuming with flash and chromium browser where it kicks you back to the ubuntu logon screen?
[22:55] <mkanyicy> Banan^, I guess you might need that nls=utf8, i neve use it
[22:55] <digitalslave> just did a fresh install with 12.04 and am running into this
[22:56] <golffik> what if i can not istall?
[22:56] <nulldev> digitalslave sounds like its crashing your x11 enviroment anything in messges log or xorg log?
[22:56] <golffik> my netbook is repetady rebooting it slehf
[22:57] <golffik> can somebody help me in this boooring matter?
[22:57] <XiRoN> nulldev: http://pastebin.com/EE4318v0
[22:57] <digitalslave> nulldev, im still crawling though the logs - also wondering if it's an nvidia driver issue
[22:58] <golffik> just ran out of ideas..
[22:58] <nulldev> xiron you enter it in wrong "dpkg --list | grep php"
[22:59] <golffik> does anybody can help begginer?
[22:59] <nulldev> digitalslave unlikely to be a nvidia driver issue they dont get updated often could be a kernel update though
[23:00] <XiRoN> nulldev: It shows up in there but when I run a command that uses GD freetype it doesnt work
[23:01] <XiRoN> I'm just trying to put text over a banner
[23:01] <nulldev> xiron is it php-blah or php5-blah?
[23:01] <XiRoN> php5-blah
[23:02] <nulldev> php5-gd should work then what errors are you getting?
[23:04] <XiRoN> nulldev: Got it working I was doing the command wrong {facepalm}
[23:04] <nulldev> xiron cool , we aall do make mistakes
[23:05] <XiRoN> I always blame ubuntu when I make them
[23:05] <XiRoN> That's why I'm here :P
[23:05] <nulldev> xiron as a mainly CentOs based admin I do to (always changing stuff)
[23:06] <nulldev> or following Debian
[23:08] <nulldev> Just asking a slightly off topic question but what would everyone like out of there "perfect distro"?
[23:08] <cccangel> gah i dont know where the problem lies! is it vmware workstation 8.0.3, ubuntu 12.04 with the intel drivers, or what that is causing the whole computer to lock up?!
[23:09] <cccangel> nulldev, ... damn small linux
[23:10] <nulldev> cccangel size of install or resource usage?
[23:10] <cccangel> about to see if this is a distro problem and try out another distro to see if the problem is repeated on it
[23:10] <cccangel> nulldev, if you are asking for a perfect distro for using virutally anywhere (off a pendrive) then ya its nice
[23:10] <nulldev> cccangel no Im building a ditro on Gentoo at the moment
[23:11] <cccangel> oh...
[23:11] <cccangel> i dont know... im thinking about chaning out my distro primary... i have a headache.
[23:11] <nulldev> cccangel install is still a basic bash script at this point using a live cd and chrooting so way of release if ever
[23:12] <digitalslave> nulldev, gdk-warning fnome-session fatal io error 11 resource temporarily unavailable on x server - how helpful :D
[23:12] <cccangel> well... im curious as to a solution with my vmware problem
[23:13] <cccangel> i had windows 7 aero working in vmware workstation 8.0.1/8.0.2 on ubuntu 11.10 but i dont know if the problem lies in ubuntu or in vmware's "update"
[23:14] <cccangel> but the problem tends to lie in the opengl rendering ... so ugh
[23:14] <nulldev> digitalslave that error says whtever chromium and flash are doing are crashing the desktop. Apart from updating chromium and flash anything else done?
[23:16] <digitalslave> nulldev, no im just starting to look into the issue and wondered if it was know.. haven't seen anything on the boards... will continue to test to see which one is the culprit
[23:16] <nulldev> cccangel if your having problems with gfx in a vm most likely something thats not possible in a vm they can only emulate gfx cards to a certain extent
[23:17] <Azize> Hello, I am using version 12.04. I enabled desktop sharing to remote connect by VNC, but when I connect, it shows only a black screen. With version 10.10 it works normally. Someone knows what is wrong?
[23:18] <jonnyboy> hi
[23:18] <digitalslave> cccangel, there are also multiple drivers vm uses, one of which does support 3d acceleration but im not sure you are going to get any of that in player
[23:18] <jonnyboy> .flod
[23:18] <jonnyboy> .flood
[23:18] <jonnyboy> hi
[23:19] <nulldev> digitalslave Im using 10.04 but havent come across that issue my chromium and flash are up to date also but not heard any similar issues sorry
[23:19] <cccangel> digitalslave, i had this working just fine in ubuntu 11.10 but i think i found the problem in the log
[23:19] <jonnyboy> do any of you have navy battle?
[23:19] <cccangel> some extension its trying to fire....
[23:19] <cccangel> i am going to see about disabling it
[23:20] <cccangel> donnu how though so im uploading this to pastebin
[23:20] <digitalslave> heh no problem nulldev, should have waited to upgrade myself. was completely stable and now im running into this and bluetooth issues although the bluetooth has been stable the last couple days.
[23:21] <Banan^> mkanyicy: still there bro?
[23:21] <Banan^> mkanyicy: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[23:22] <nulldev> digitalslave I was the sme until I worked in a production IT enviroment , always make backups and rol back plans :)
[23:23] <ajan_ajitator> hello! which one is faster plasma-netbook or unity-2d?
[23:24] <cccangel> okay if someone knows how to read vmware dump logs.... can you take a look at this for me please?  (im stuck. http://pastebin.com/igN0Vc8f)
[23:24] <nulldev> ajan_ajitator xfce
[23:26] <nulldev> ccangel not looked properly yet but [msg.dictionary.load.openFailed] Cannot open file "/usr/lib/vmware/settings"
[23:26] <digitalslave> haha nulldev oh im well versed in that - made a backup of my raid before i touched anything :D
[23:26] <cccccc> running 12.04, 64 bit here, why doesn't a newly installed program get added to unity's search database when installed with apt-get
[23:26] <jonnyboy> sex???
[23:26] <jonnyboy> d
[23:26] <jonnyboy> dd
[23:26] <jonnyboy> dd
[23:26] <jonnyboy> d
[23:26] <FloodBot1> jonnyboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <ajan_ajitator> nulldev: thanks i use lxde on ubuntu on my netbook, ill try xfce out
[23:27] <OerHeks> wrong channel, jonnyboy
[23:27] <nulldev> ajan_its cool but simple
[23:27] <jonnyboy> what?
[23:27] <OerHeks> !ot | jonnyboy
[23:28] <L3tops> it should cccccc
[23:29] <jonnyboy> file:///home/bewley/Desktop/Love%20the%20Way%20You%20Mine%20(eric-mastered).mp3
[23:29] <OerHeks> cccccc, not if it has no gui
[23:29] <cccccc> L3tops, it gets updated when i switch to the guest session, is there a command line program to force it to update
[23:29] <jonnyboy> file:///home/bewley/Desktop/Ding...Fries%20Are%20Done!!.mp3
[23:29] <jonnyboy>     file:///home/bewley/Desktop/%5Btindeck.com%5D%20-%20hojjoshMC%20-%208-Bituary.mp3
[23:29] <jonnyboy>   
[23:29] <digitalslave> cccccc, ive seen it work and not work as well but then again i dumped it for gnome3 after about 30 minutes again
[23:31] <cccccc> digitalslave, unity's been kinda slow for me, how does gnome3 perform
[23:31] <yggdrasil>  /j #freenas
[23:31] <OerHeks> !nounity
[23:32] <digitalslave> gnome3 has been great... before 12.04 it had problems allowing other apps go full screen as its top bar was on screen but i haven't had any problems with it with the fresh 12.04 build
[23:34] <digitalslave> also love how gnome3 just gets out of the way with the top left and bottom right hover menus
[23:35] <nulldev> really not loking forward to the forced gnome3
[23:35] <OerHeks> Gnome3 needs a SSD
[23:35] <nulldev> only used it on a fedora livecd to be fair but I dont like change
[23:35] <cockatrice> If I installed ubuntu on a usb flash drive with something like UNetBootin and I changed the settings, they would persist, right? It's not like a liveCD?
[23:36] <OerHeks> !persistant
[23:37] <cockatrice> Thanks a bunch!
[23:37] <nulldev> cockatrice Ive not used it for a while but there should be a checkbox in unetbottin to create a writable partition or something similar to keep settings
[23:38] <cockatrice> Also, when I updated from Oneiric to whatever it is now, it was severly messed up. Is there anything I can do? Some graphics are missing and my mouse won't move.
[23:39] <cccccc> OerHeks, why does gnome3 need a ssd
[23:40] <nulldev> ccccc not 100% but for the proxy maybe
[23:40] <OerHeks> fast accestime to systemfiles, it really boost performance
[23:41] <golfik467> funkyHat?
[23:41] <funkyHat> golfik467: hi
[23:41] <cccccc> OerHeks, how does gnome3 compare to unity without ssd?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> golfik467: It sounds like your hardware just doesn't work with Syslinux for some reason. Have you tested the USB you created on another machine to confirm that it was at least created properly?
[23:42] <golfik467> yes i did
[23:42] <golfik467> it worked perfectly
[23:42] <funkyHat> Jordan_U: it's a samsung nc-110 which apparently has UEFI, and he wants to dual boot with Windows
[23:42] <nulldev> ccccc lol sorry misread thought you said ssid not solid state
[23:42] <golfik467> just like it suposed to do
[23:42] <nulldev> ssid*
[23:43] <funkyHat> So I don't know if switching on bios compatibility mode will break Windows somehow...
[23:43] <nulldev> said*
[23:43] <Jordan_U> golfik467: When it failed, you did at least see some message indicating that Syslinux had started, correct?
[23:43] <golfik467> no, it just reeboted it over and over again
[23:44] <nulldev> funkyhat bios changes shouldnt break windows but microsoft break it enough for anything else to I guess
[23:44] <golfik467> but reebot was while the prompt from linux was shown
[23:45] <golfik467> reboot*
[23:45] <golfik467> sry for mistakes my eng is poor :/
[23:45] <golfik467> and it's amost 2 am here :P
[23:45] <Jordan_U> golfik467: In #ubutnu-offtopic you said "got SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS Copyright... and that was what i saw before it rebooted" That is enough to tell me that Syslinux at least started.
[23:46] <nulldev> golfik467 my English is poor to so dont worry about it I am English too lol
[23:46] <golfik467> and it did every time, but after this message it just reeboted
[23:46] <Jordan_U> funkyHat: Since golfik467 is seeing some output form Syslinux, which doesn't support UEFI, I don't think disabling UEFI is needed or would be helpful.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> golfik467: I recommend trying to make a USB with grub instead of Syslinux in case grub happens to not have the same problem with your hardware that Syslinux does.
[23:47] <golfik467> so how do i do that?
[23:48] <nulldev> Jordan_U how do you work that out?
[23:48] <nulldev> funkyHat: Since golfik467 is seeing some output form Syslinux, which doesn't support UEFI, I don't think disabling UEFI is needed or would be helpful if it dont support it could be the service thats running causing the issue crashing a loop maybe
[23:48] <Jordan_U> golfik467: What version of Ubuntu is on the iso, and what version of Ubuntu are you using to create the USB?
[23:49] <Guest26985> buenas a tod@s
[23:49] <golfik467> newest one 12.04
[23:50] <kdlslsll> alot of my files have failed an rkunter test
[23:50] <nulldev> kdlslsll ../ files can usually be ignored
[23:50] <kdlslsll> 00:44:53]   /usr/bin/top                                    [ Warning ] [00:44:53] Warning: The file properties have changed: [00:44:53]          File: /usr/bin/top [00:44:53]          Current hash: 4998ec6cef8694ea13decb84f74199b4ff23e798 [00:44:53]          Stored hash : 12f00aef4c0b23846b664912e5221e95cc4d6a3e [00:44:53]          Current inode: 8395406    Stored inode: 8394715 [00:44:53]          Current file modification time: 
[23:50] <kdlslsll> sorry
[23:50] <nulldev> sorry ..
[23:50] <kdlslsll> is this ok
[23:51] <Jordan_U> golfik467: Great. First copy the Ubuntu iso (do *not* extract it, simply copy the file itself) to the USB drive. I would put it in a directory called "boot-isos" but you can put the file anywhere.
[23:51] <kdlslsll> that is just one example
[23:51] <funkyHat> kdlslsll: have you recently run updates?
[23:51] <kdlslsll> yes
[23:51] <nulldev> kdlslsll rkhunter usually warns of hidden files only because they are hidden. So some hidden files in /home can be flagged as dodgy i.e flash
[23:51] <golfik467> k. wait asec
[23:52] <golfik467> jorda ca u give ma a PM?
[23:52] <kdlslsll> ok i c
[23:52] <golfik467> i woud be easier
[23:52] <golfik467> ?
[23:53] <golfik467> sorry for my incopitence but i"m using IRC for first time :./
[23:53] <Jordan_U> golfik467: I prefer to keep discussion in channel. You can use "/lastlog golfik467" in your IRC client to show all of the messages which have been sent to or from you. If you'd still prefer PM though then just PM me.
[23:53] <nulldev> also rkhunter doesent detect updates so unless you give it the update packages switch it will warn on newer versions that are legit
[23:53] <golfik467> no a problem
[23:53] <kdlslsll> ive got warnings for most file properties checks eg  /usr/sbin/adduser
[23:53] <golfik467> but I'll to browse alittle bit :P
[23:54] <golfik467> should I format drive first and put it as default?
[23:54] <kdlslsll> how do i update rkhunter to sync with current file properties (legit ones)
[23:54] <nulldev> kdlslsll but you cant unless you know a Linux box in and out work out wether they are legitanite warnings or not to worry about
[23:54] <golfik467> i meant as bootable device
[23:55] <golfik467> as i said poor english :P
[23:55] <kdlslsll> oh i c
[23:55] <nulldev> like I said above it gives alot of false positives
[23:55] <kdlslsll> ok thanks
[23:55] <Jordan_U> golfik467: There is no need to format the drive. You can either set it as the default boot defice or use your machines one-time boot selection menu, whichever you prefer.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> golfik467: When you're done copying the iso over tell me where your USB drive's partition is mounted and the path you copied the iso file to.
[23:55] <L3tops> * Unknown command LASTLOG
[23:56] <golfik467> k
[23:56] <Jordan_U> L3tops: I feel sorry for you, I find it to be an invaluable feature. What IRC client are you using?
[23:56] <L3tops> It would be... I was very excited to read it... quassel
[23:57] <Jordan_U> L3tops: I've heard good things about quassel, they probably have a similar feature with a different name/inteface.
[23:57] <L3tops> Probably because it uses a database and goes back months and months Jordan_U
[23:57] <nulldev> kdlslsll personally I advise running rkhunter with your update script and updating its db then using chkrootkit seperately. Personally crackers dont really target Linux though we have no viruses in the wild because there using Linux
[23:58] <L3tops> also invaluable... just search part of that magic command someone put in a few weeks ago...
[23:59] <Celltech> I LOVE the netbook desktop.. I found it under my log in screen with normal and openbox... Netbook is better and way faster
[23:59] <ninux> hi folks! i have to send tty1 content "live" to USB and tried it with the following:"tail -f /dev/tty1 | cat -- >> /media/usbstick/log_tty.txt" and i get the problem that tty1 cant get input anymore. where is the fault? anybody an idea?