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micahgis there a reason why we only have 64 bit images?00:22
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astraljavaI haven't looked into it so far. I'm wondering where to sign up for the image-build mail in the first place. I know I receive it for Studio, but that's probably because the mail is forwarded to the -devel ml.05:57
astraljavaBut anyway, does anyone have a clear overview what's been done for this cycle thus far?05:58
astraljavaI suppose I'd have to write some kind of report for the release meeting today, but I have no clue. :)05:58
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astraljavaAt least people have been looking at the blueprints, voted on them, and some work has already happened with the desktop search.07:25
astraljavaAnything else?07:25
astraljavaNaturally refreshed packages from Debian.07:26
Unit193http://www.mail-archive.com/pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg16752.html That *seems* to be the best bet for dvd playback, but I'd bet not for Q.07:27
micahg:( no GTK 3 for Xfce 4.12, we might not even get GTK 3 for the next LTS07:48
Unit193Geez...07:49
astraljavaWell, I can sort of understand it, if the resource hogging is that much worse, and is expected to diminish over time as GTK 3 evolves.07:51
astraljavaBut I haven't followed the discussion at all, just a guess here.07:52
astraljavagrr... I haven't imported my ssh/gpg keys.08:55
knomemorning09:26
Unit193Jello, way past sleepy time. (And have I said I hate birds yet?)09:27
knome:P09:28
pjotrHello, I have a request for Xubuntu. 09:29
pjotrThe default double click time of the mouse, is now set at 250 ms. In my experience this is too short for many users: they have difficulty opening files with double click. A default value of 350 ms would be better, in my opinion.09:29
pjotrFor which package should I report this on Launchpad?09:29
knomewe haven't got any feedback on that beofore, so i'm not sure if it is so "many" users09:30
knomebut that would be xubuntu-default-settings09:30
pjotrSome 50 % of the people that I have transferred to Xubuntu, that is.... Personal experience only, therefore. :-)09:31
knomewell yeah, as i said, haven't got any feedback on that before09:31
pjotrthanks for pointing me to the right package.09:31
knomenp09:31
pjotrespecially elderly people have diffciculty clicking swift enough with 250 ms09:32
ochosihi everyone09:32
laitehas there been any plans for a xubuntu-related forum for internet? I for one feel that ubuntu's official forum is not the best place for xubuntu-conversations, especially while there is no subforum for it specifically09:33
laiteand hi :)09:33
knomelaite, not really - it would be quite a lot of maintenance09:34
Unit193All you have to do is tag it as Xubuntu.09:34
laitethings like this ^ could be easily polled if something like that existed09:34
chelzhaving it more prominent that people should use askubuntu and tag xubuntu might be good09:34
laitecould we ask for a subforum to ubuntuforums?09:35
laiteFor what I've seen, there's some questions that come over and over in #xubuntu, perhaps foruming them would make people use google before asking here :)09:36
knomelaite, isn't there one, under DE's ?09:36
laiteknome: I know it's recommended to use ubuntu forums with [xubuntu] tags, but for me it's just kind of a mess that there's also kubuntu/lubuntu etc. questions in the same forum09:38
knomelaite, for me, forums are a mess whatsoever ... :)09:39
pjotrknome: I have published the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/100440009:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004400 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu: default double click time is too short" [Undecided,New]09:41
pjotrMaybe you guys can talk this over some time?  :-)09:42
knomemaybe09:42
pjotrThat's all I can ask.... Thanks for your time.  :-)09:44
astraljavaknome: backlog! help me10:00
knomeastraljava, wut? help in what? :)10:00
astraljavarelease mail.10:01
astraljavaI just noticed it was already due yesterday... :(10:02
knomenothing much done; setting up the blueprints and drafting stuff10:02
* astraljava has to update his mental TODO notes10:02
astraljavaYeah ok, that's what I thought.10:02
knomethanks for asking though10:02
knomeskaet had typoed your email addy10:03
astraljavaAnything about to land that'll have an impact on others? I suppose that some packages are deprecated, so I10:03
knomethat's probably why you didn't get it before...10:03
astraljava'll mention that.10:03
knomewell, xfce 4.10 is coming some time10:03
astraljavaYeah, and I couldn't even add it to my google calendar as that's not my email.10:03
knome:)10:03
astraljavaI don't suppose I can have a secondary email on that?10:07
knomeask skaet :)10:08
knometold her he mistyped it though, you should be able to add it now10:08
knomeshe10:08
knome..10:08
astraljavaNo, I'm getting it to my kapsi address, but that's not my google calendar address.10:09
knomeaha10:09
knomein that case, d'oh!10:09
knomei asked her to add that if it's okay10:10
knomeseems like it's not.10:10
astraljavaOh it's okay, there just was a link I could use to add myself automatically. I'll just have to manually do that now, no problem.10:12
knomeheh :)10:12
knomeso, any plans for the evening?10:13
knome(which i did ask you already)10:13
astraljavaI'm meeting with a few colleagues. Oh yeah, you did. I forgot, sorry.10:13
knomeheh, no problem10:13
knomehave fun then :)10:13
astraljavaWe still have some training tomorrow, but it's technically the last night, so.. :)10:14
knomelol10:14
* knome just created all the blueprints10:14
knomethat's going to give me a massive amount of LP karma10:14
mr_pouit(xfce 4.10 is already in quantal)10:18
ochosiknome lives for the LP karma :)10:23
knomehaha10:23
knomenot really10:23
* knome is eating some garlic ciabatta10:23
mr_pouitknome: opinion is like won't fix10:24
mr_pouit(for the double click time bug)10:24
knomemr_pouit, ssshh!10:24
mr_pouitknome: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ any idea why there's no topic-quantal-flavor-xubuntu?10:26
knomemr_pouit, skaet just approved it today, probably appearing soonish10:28
ochosibluesabre: i assume there's no way of distinguishing whether an ogg is a video or audio?10:33
knomeexcept mime type magic (eg. read the file)10:34
ochosiyeah, prolly10:34
mr_pouiteven with mime magic it's not obvious10:34
ochosinot sure10:34
ochosiit's just that thunar seems to detect that file as audio (which it is) while catfish says it's a video10:34
knomemr_pouit, well at *some point* it has to be ;)10:34
mr_pouite.g. I had to open them with taglib and check them for validity to detect it's an audio file10:35
ochosione way could be by looking whether it has tags10:35
ochosiright10:35
mr_pouit(otherwise thunar-media-tags-plugin would crash trying to tag an ogg video file)10:35
ochosii think it's odd that there still arent any tags for videos10:35
knomevideo files can't have tags?10:35
knome:)10:35
ochosinot that i know of10:35
knomeyeah10:35
ochosiok guys, i gotta go now, have a friend's wedding this afternoon10:36
ochosii'll be back sometime tomorrow10:36
knomeoh, have fun, and tell congrats to him/her ;)10:36
ochosiyeah, i'll tell both of them :)10:36
knomehihi10:36
knomegood!10:36
ochosi:)10:36
ochosisee y'all10:36
knomei suppose you are giving them a xubuntu cd for present too? :P10:36
ochosiobviously10:37
knomehehe10:37
* knome is off too, at least for a moment10:37
mr_pouitknome: I've added work items to some blueprints, please fix them, sometimes I don't really known what is meant in the spec :P (e.g. rethink elementary-xfce icons)10:59
laiteOne thing that has annoyed me with xfce4-indicator-plugin is that there is no tooltip for sound indicator (that would say 'volume: 56%' or something similar). Should I report this as a 'bug' in launchpad or is there some better way?12:13
mr_pouitlaite: is there a tooltip for indicator-sound with unity?12:16
mr_pouityes -> bug for xfce4-indicator-plugin, no -> wishlist bug for indicator-sound, I guess12:16
laitemr_pouit: I have no idea, haven't used unity in ages12:17
mr_pouitmaybe someone here has, let's wait a bit :P12:17
laite=)12:17
bluesabreknome, ochosi: I was actually going to work on the filetype filters next.  We'll see how well it goes.13:10
knome:)13:10
knomebluesabre, hm, you are this sean davis, right? https://launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis13:10
bluesabreyes13:11
knomegood13:12
knomejust confusing since you haven't added your irc nick there13:12
bluesabreoh13:12
bluesabreI should do that13:12
bluesabre:D13:12
knomeyou are now the assignee to some blueprints13:12
knomehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis13:13
astraljavaOh, we have blueprints now?13:13
knomeastraljava, yeah, i created them today13:13
knomebluesabre, you could go through adding the work items with ochosi13:13
astraljavaWhee! But I won't update the release mail anyhoo.13:13
knomebluesabre, but basically, edit the work items -section with [assignee_for_item] What to do: PROGRESS13:14
knomebluesabre, where PROGRESS is... BLOCKED, TODO, INPROGRESS, DONE13:14
knomeor POSTPONED :)13:15
knomebluesabre, if there are bugs related to any blueprint, there's a tool to link them - you don't need to add a work item for a bug, that's done automatically13:15
knomebluesabre, there's a more thorough guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto13:16
knomebluesabre, or you can just ask the channel :)13:16
bluesabreThanks! 13:16
knomenp, just don't hesitate to ask since it's for the good for all of us13:17
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knomeis there any technical reason why ~xubuntu-dev or ~xubuntu-website should be members of ~xubuntu-team17:18
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knomeat least for -website, i don't think there is17:18

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