micahg | is there a reason why we only have 64 bit images? | 00:22 |
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astraljava | I haven't looked into it so far. I'm wondering where to sign up for the image-build mail in the first place. I know I receive it for Studio, but that's probably because the mail is forwarded to the -devel ml. | 05:57 |
astraljava | But anyway, does anyone have a clear overview what's been done for this cycle thus far? | 05:58 |
astraljava | I suppose I'd have to write some kind of report for the release meeting today, but I have no clue. :) | 05:58 |
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astraljava | At least people have been looking at the blueprints, voted on them, and some work has already happened with the desktop search. | 07:25 |
astraljava | Anything else? | 07:25 |
astraljava | Naturally refreshed packages from Debian. | 07:26 |
Unit193 | http://www.mail-archive.com/pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg16752.html That *seems* to be the best bet for dvd playback, but I'd bet not for Q. | 07:27 |
micahg | :( no GTK 3 for Xfce 4.12, we might not even get GTK 3 for the next LTS | 07:48 |
Unit193 | Geez... | 07:49 |
astraljava | Well, I can sort of understand it, if the resource hogging is that much worse, and is expected to diminish over time as GTK 3 evolves. | 07:51 |
astraljava | But I haven't followed the discussion at all, just a guess here. | 07:52 |
astraljava | grr... I haven't imported my ssh/gpg keys. | 08:55 |
knome | morning | 09:26 |
Unit193 | Jello, way past sleepy time. (And have I said I hate birds yet?) | 09:27 |
knome | :P | 09:28 |
pjotr | Hello, I have a request for Xubuntu. | 09:29 |
pjotr | The default double click time of the mouse, is now set at 250 ms. In my experience this is too short for many users: they have difficulty opening files with double click. A default value of 350 ms would be better, in my opinion. | 09:29 |
pjotr | For which package should I report this on Launchpad? | 09:29 |
knome | we haven't got any feedback on that beofore, so i'm not sure if it is so "many" users | 09:30 |
knome | but that would be xubuntu-default-settings | 09:30 |
pjotr | Some 50 % of the people that I have transferred to Xubuntu, that is.... Personal experience only, therefore. :-) | 09:31 |
knome | well yeah, as i said, haven't got any feedback on that before | 09:31 |
pjotr | thanks for pointing me to the right package. | 09:31 |
knome | np | 09:31 |
pjotr | especially elderly people have diffciculty clicking swift enough with 250 ms | 09:32 |
ochosi | hi everyone | 09:32 |
laite | has there been any plans for a xubuntu-related forum for internet? I for one feel that ubuntu's official forum is not the best place for xubuntu-conversations, especially while there is no subforum for it specifically | 09:33 |
laite | and hi :) | 09:33 |
knome | laite, not really - it would be quite a lot of maintenance | 09:34 |
Unit193 | All you have to do is tag it as Xubuntu. | 09:34 |
laite | things like this ^ could be easily polled if something like that existed | 09:34 |
chelz | having it more prominent that people should use askubuntu and tag xubuntu might be good | 09:34 |
laite | could we ask for a subforum to ubuntuforums? | 09:35 |
laite | For what I've seen, there's some questions that come over and over in #xubuntu, perhaps foruming them would make people use google before asking here :) | 09:36 |
knome | laite, isn't there one, under DE's ? | 09:36 |
laite | knome: I know it's recommended to use ubuntu forums with [xubuntu] tags, but for me it's just kind of a mess that there's also kubuntu/lubuntu etc. questions in the same forum | 09:38 |
knome | laite, for me, forums are a mess whatsoever ... :) | 09:39 |
pjotr | knome: I have published the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1004400 | 09:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1004400 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu: default double click time is too short" [Undecided,New] | 09:41 |
pjotr | Maybe you guys can talk this over some time? :-) | 09:42 |
knome | maybe | 09:42 |
pjotr | That's all I can ask.... Thanks for your time. :-) | 09:44 |
astraljava | knome: backlog! help me | 10:00 |
knome | astraljava, wut? help in what? :) | 10:00 |
astraljava | release mail. | 10:01 |
astraljava | I just noticed it was already due yesterday... :( | 10:02 |
knome | nothing much done; setting up the blueprints and drafting stuff | 10:02 |
* astraljava has to update his mental TODO notes | 10:02 | |
astraljava | Yeah ok, that's what I thought. | 10:02 |
knome | thanks for asking though | 10:02 |
knome | skaet had typoed your email addy | 10:03 |
astraljava | Anything about to land that'll have an impact on others? I suppose that some packages are deprecated, so I | 10:03 |
knome | that's probably why you didn't get it before... | 10:03 |
astraljava | 'll mention that. | 10:03 |
knome | well, xfce 4.10 is coming some time | 10:03 |
astraljava | Yeah, and I couldn't even add it to my google calendar as that's not my email. | 10:03 |
knome | :) | 10:03 |
astraljava | I don't suppose I can have a secondary email on that? | 10:07 |
knome | ask skaet :) | 10:08 |
knome | told her he mistyped it though, you should be able to add it now | 10:08 |
knome | she | 10:08 |
knome | .. | 10:08 |
astraljava | No, I'm getting it to my kapsi address, but that's not my google calendar address. | 10:09 |
knome | aha | 10:09 |
knome | in that case, d'oh! | 10:09 |
knome | i asked her to add that if it's okay | 10:10 |
knome | seems like it's not. | 10:10 |
astraljava | Oh it's okay, there just was a link I could use to add myself automatically. I'll just have to manually do that now, no problem. | 10:12 |
knome | heh :) | 10:12 |
knome | so, any plans for the evening? | 10:13 |
knome | (which i did ask you already) | 10:13 |
astraljava | I'm meeting with a few colleagues. Oh yeah, you did. I forgot, sorry. | 10:13 |
knome | heh, no problem | 10:13 |
knome | have fun then :) | 10:13 |
astraljava | We still have some training tomorrow, but it's technically the last night, so.. :) | 10:14 |
knome | lol | 10:14 |
* knome just created all the blueprints | 10:14 | |
knome | that's going to give me a massive amount of LP karma | 10:14 |
mr_pouit | (xfce 4.10 is already in quantal) | 10:18 |
ochosi | knome lives for the LP karma :) | 10:23 |
knome | haha | 10:23 |
knome | not really | 10:23 |
* knome is eating some garlic ciabatta | 10:23 | |
mr_pouit | knome: opinion is like won't fix | 10:24 |
mr_pouit | (for the double click time bug) | 10:24 |
knome | mr_pouit, ssshh! | 10:24 |
mr_pouit | knome: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ any idea why there's no topic-quantal-flavor-xubuntu? | 10:26 |
knome | mr_pouit, skaet just approved it today, probably appearing soonish | 10:28 |
ochosi | bluesabre: i assume there's no way of distinguishing whether an ogg is a video or audio? | 10:33 |
knome | except mime type magic (eg. read the file) | 10:34 |
ochosi | yeah, prolly | 10:34 |
mr_pouit | even with mime magic it's not obvious | 10:34 |
ochosi | not sure | 10:34 |
ochosi | it's just that thunar seems to detect that file as audio (which it is) while catfish says it's a video | 10:34 |
knome | mr_pouit, well at *some point* it has to be ;) | 10:34 |
mr_pouit | e.g. I had to open them with taglib and check them for validity to detect it's an audio file | 10:35 |
ochosi | one way could be by looking whether it has tags | 10:35 |
ochosi | right | 10:35 |
mr_pouit | (otherwise thunar-media-tags-plugin would crash trying to tag an ogg video file) | 10:35 |
ochosi | i think it's odd that there still arent any tags for videos | 10:35 |
knome | video files can't have tags? | 10:35 |
knome | :) | 10:35 |
ochosi | not that i know of | 10:35 |
knome | yeah | 10:35 |
ochosi | ok guys, i gotta go now, have a friend's wedding this afternoon | 10:36 |
ochosi | i'll be back sometime tomorrow | 10:36 |
knome | oh, have fun, and tell congrats to him/her ;) | 10:36 |
ochosi | yeah, i'll tell both of them :) | 10:36 |
knome | hihi | 10:36 |
knome | good! | 10:36 |
ochosi | :) | 10:36 |
ochosi | see y'all | 10:36 |
knome | i suppose you are giving them a xubuntu cd for present too? :P | 10:36 |
ochosi | obviously | 10:37 |
knome | hehe | 10:37 |
* knome is off too, at least for a moment | 10:37 | |
mr_pouit | knome: I've added work items to some blueprints, please fix them, sometimes I don't really known what is meant in the spec :P (e.g. rethink elementary-xfce icons) | 10:59 |
laite | One thing that has annoyed me with xfce4-indicator-plugin is that there is no tooltip for sound indicator (that would say 'volume: 56%' or something similar). Should I report this as a 'bug' in launchpad or is there some better way? | 12:13 |
mr_pouit | laite: is there a tooltip for indicator-sound with unity? | 12:16 |
mr_pouit | yes -> bug for xfce4-indicator-plugin, no -> wishlist bug for indicator-sound, I guess | 12:16 |
laite | mr_pouit: I have no idea, haven't used unity in ages | 12:17 |
mr_pouit | maybe someone here has, let's wait a bit :P | 12:17 |
laite | =) | 12:17 |
bluesabre | knome, ochosi: I was actually going to work on the filetype filters next. We'll see how well it goes. | 13:10 |
knome | :) | 13:10 |
knome | bluesabre, hm, you are this sean davis, right? https://launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis | 13:10 |
bluesabre | yes | 13:11 |
knome | good | 13:12 |
knome | just confusing since you haven't added your irc nick there | 13:12 |
bluesabre | oh | 13:12 |
bluesabre | I should do that | 13:12 |
bluesabre | :D | 13:12 |
knome | you are now the assignee to some blueprints | 13:12 |
knome | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis | 13:13 |
astraljava | Oh, we have blueprints now? | 13:13 |
knome | astraljava, yeah, i created them today | 13:13 |
knome | bluesabre, you could go through adding the work items with ochosi | 13:13 |
astraljava | Whee! But I won't update the release mail anyhoo. | 13:13 |
knome | bluesabre, but basically, edit the work items -section with [assignee_for_item] What to do: PROGRESS | 13:14 |
knome | bluesabre, where PROGRESS is... BLOCKED, TODO, INPROGRESS, DONE | 13:14 |
knome | or POSTPONED :) | 13:15 |
knome | bluesabre, if there are bugs related to any blueprint, there's a tool to link them - you don't need to add a work item for a bug, that's done automatically | 13:15 |
knome | bluesabre, there's a more thorough guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto | 13:16 |
knome | bluesabre, or you can just ask the channel :) | 13:16 |
bluesabre | Thanks! | 13:16 |
knome | np, just don't hesitate to ask since it's for the good for all of us | 13:17 |
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knome | is there any technical reason why ~xubuntu-dev or ~xubuntu-website should be members of ~xubuntu-team | 17:18 |
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knome | at least for -website, i don't think there is | 17:18 |
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