[00:22] is there a reason why we only have 64 bit images? === therealnanotube is now known as nanotube === yofel_ is now known as yofel [05:57] I haven't looked into it so far. I'm wondering where to sign up for the image-build mail in the first place. I know I receive it for Studio, but that's probably because the mail is forwarded to the -devel ml. [05:58] But anyway, does anyone have a clear overview what's been done for this cycle thus far? [05:58] I suppose I'd have to write some kind of report for the release meeting today, but I have no clue. :) === koegs_ is now known as koegs [07:25] At least people have been looking at the blueprints, voted on them, and some work has already happened with the desktop search. [07:25] Anything else? [07:26] Naturally refreshed packages from Debian. [07:27] http://www.mail-archive.com/pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg16752.html That *seems* to be the best bet for dvd playback, but I'd bet not for Q. [07:48] :( no GTK 3 for Xfce 4.12, we might not even get GTK 3 for the next LTS [07:49] Geez... [07:51] Well, I can sort of understand it, if the resource hogging is that much worse, and is expected to diminish over time as GTK 3 evolves. [07:52] But I haven't followed the discussion at all, just a guess here. [08:55] grr... I haven't imported my ssh/gpg keys. [09:26] morning [09:27] Jello, way past sleepy time. (And have I said I hate birds yet?) [09:28] :P [09:29] Hello, I have a request for Xubuntu. [09:29] The default double click time of the mouse, is now set at 250 ms. In my experience this is too short for many users: they have difficulty opening files with double click. A default value of 350 ms would be better, in my opinion. [09:29] For which package should I report this on Launchpad? [09:30] we haven't got any feedback on that beofore, so i'm not sure if it is so "many" users [09:30] but that would be xubuntu-default-settings [09:31] Some 50 % of the people that I have transferred to Xubuntu, that is.... Personal experience only, therefore. :-) [09:31] well yeah, as i said, haven't got any feedback on that before [09:31] thanks for pointing me to the right package. [09:31] np [09:32] especially elderly people have diffciculty clicking swift enough with 250 ms [09:32] hi everyone [09:33] has there been any plans for a xubuntu-related forum for internet? I for one feel that ubuntu's official forum is not the best place for xubuntu-conversations, especially while there is no subforum for it specifically [09:33] and hi :) [09:34] laite, not really - it would be quite a lot of maintenance [09:34] All you have to do is tag it as Xubuntu. [09:34] things like this ^ could be easily polled if something like that existed [09:34] having it more prominent that people should use askubuntu and tag xubuntu might be good [09:35] could we ask for a subforum to ubuntuforums? [09:36] For what I've seen, there's some questions that come over and over in #xubuntu, perhaps foruming them would make people use google before asking here :) [09:36] laite, isn't there one, under DE's ? [09:38] knome: I know it's recommended to use ubuntu forums with [xubuntu] tags, but for me it's just kind of a mess that there's also kubuntu/lubuntu etc. questions in the same forum [09:39] laite, for me, forums are a mess whatsoever ... :) [09:41] knome: I have published the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1004400 [09:41] Launchpad bug 1004400 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu: default double click time is too short" [Undecided,New] [09:42] Maybe you guys can talk this over some time? :-) [09:42] maybe [09:44] That's all I can ask.... Thanks for your time. :-) [10:00] knome: backlog! help me [10:00] astraljava, wut? help in what? :) [10:01] release mail. [10:02] I just noticed it was already due yesterday... :( [10:02] nothing much done; setting up the blueprints and drafting stuff [10:02] * astraljava has to update his mental TODO notes [10:02] Yeah ok, that's what I thought. [10:02] thanks for asking though [10:03] skaet had typoed your email addy [10:03] Anything about to land that'll have an impact on others? I suppose that some packages are deprecated, so I [10:03] that's probably why you didn't get it before... [10:03] 'll mention that. [10:03] well, xfce 4.10 is coming some time [10:03] Yeah, and I couldn't even add it to my google calendar as that's not my email. [10:03] :) [10:07] I don't suppose I can have a secondary email on that? [10:08] ask skaet :) [10:08] told her he mistyped it though, you should be able to add it now [10:08] she [10:08] .. [10:09] No, I'm getting it to my kapsi address, but that's not my google calendar address. [10:09] aha [10:09] in that case, d'oh! [10:10] i asked her to add that if it's okay [10:10] seems like it's not. [10:12] Oh it's okay, there just was a link I could use to add myself automatically. I'll just have to manually do that now, no problem. [10:12] heh :) [10:13] so, any plans for the evening? [10:13] (which i did ask you already) [10:13] I'm meeting with a few colleagues. Oh yeah, you did. I forgot, sorry. [10:13] heh, no problem [10:13] have fun then :) [10:14] We still have some training tomorrow, but it's technically the last night, so.. :) [10:14] lol [10:14] * knome just created all the blueprints [10:14] that's going to give me a massive amount of LP karma [10:18] (xfce 4.10 is already in quantal) [10:23] knome lives for the LP karma :) [10:23] haha [10:23] not really [10:23] * knome is eating some garlic ciabatta [10:24] knome: opinion is like won't fix [10:24] (for the double click time bug) [10:24] mr_pouit, ssshh! [10:26] knome: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ any idea why there's no topic-quantal-flavor-xubuntu? [10:28] mr_pouit, skaet just approved it today, probably appearing soonish [10:33] bluesabre: i assume there's no way of distinguishing whether an ogg is a video or audio? [10:34] except mime type magic (eg. read the file) [10:34] yeah, prolly [10:34] even with mime magic it's not obvious [10:34] not sure [10:34] it's just that thunar seems to detect that file as audio (which it is) while catfish says it's a video [10:34] mr_pouit, well at *some point* it has to be ;) [10:35] e.g. I had to open them with taglib and check them for validity to detect it's an audio file [10:35] one way could be by looking whether it has tags [10:35] right [10:35] (otherwise thunar-media-tags-plugin would crash trying to tag an ogg video file) [10:35] i think it's odd that there still arent any tags for videos [10:35] video files can't have tags? [10:35] :) [10:35] not that i know of [10:35] yeah [10:36] ok guys, i gotta go now, have a friend's wedding this afternoon [10:36] i'll be back sometime tomorrow [10:36] oh, have fun, and tell congrats to him/her ;) [10:36] yeah, i'll tell both of them :) [10:36] hihi [10:36] good! [10:36] :) [10:36] see y'all [10:36] i suppose you are giving them a xubuntu cd for present too? :P [10:37] obviously [10:37] hehe [10:37] * knome is off too, at least for a moment [10:59] knome: I've added work items to some blueprints, please fix them, sometimes I don't really known what is meant in the spec :P (e.g. rethink elementary-xfce icons) [12:13] One thing that has annoyed me with xfce4-indicator-plugin is that there is no tooltip for sound indicator (that would say 'volume: 56%' or something similar). Should I report this as a 'bug' in launchpad or is there some better way? [12:16] laite: is there a tooltip for indicator-sound with unity? [12:16] yes -> bug for xfce4-indicator-plugin, no -> wishlist bug for indicator-sound, I guess [12:17] mr_pouit: I have no idea, haven't used unity in ages [12:17] maybe someone here has, let's wait a bit :P [12:17] =) [13:10] knome, ochosi: I was actually going to work on the filetype filters next. We'll see how well it goes. [13:10] :) [13:10] bluesabre, hm, you are this sean davis, right? https://launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis [13:11] yes [13:12] good [13:12] just confusing since you haven't added your irc nick there [13:12] oh [13:12] I should do that [13:12] :D [13:12] you are now the assignee to some blueprints [13:13] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis [13:13] Oh, we have blueprints now? [13:13] astraljava, yeah, i created them today [13:13] bluesabre, you could go through adding the work items with ochosi [13:13] Whee! But I won't update the release mail anyhoo. [13:14] bluesabre, but basically, edit the work items -section with [assignee_for_item] What to do: PROGRESS [13:14] bluesabre, where PROGRESS is... BLOCKED, TODO, INPROGRESS, DONE [13:15] or POSTPONED :) [13:15] bluesabre, if there are bugs related to any blueprint, there's a tool to link them - you don't need to add a work item for a bug, that's done automatically [13:16] bluesabre, there's a more thorough guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto [13:16] bluesabre, or you can just ask the channel :) [13:16] Thanks! [13:17] np, just don't hesitate to ask since it's for the good for all of us === allison is now known as wendar [17:18] is there any technical reason why ~xubuntu-dev or ~xubuntu-website should be members of ~xubuntu-team === wendar is now known as allison === allison is now known as wendar [17:18] at least for -website, i don't think there is