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davidkyou are running X on a framebuffer?00:00
davidkif not the log basically says "driver not found" and you should install an appropriate graphics driver for whatever your hardware is.00:01
davidkif you are sure that is NOT the case I have another idea00:02
davidkbut fixing your kernel would be the proper way to do it00:02
davidkgood night, and good luck with that00:03
AlexGerhmm00:03
AlexGerit should emulate the Grafics00:04
AlexGerph00:04
AlexGerCirrus emulated graphics adapter00:06
davidkwhat vm is this?00:06
davidkvmware?00:09
davidkAlexGer: ?00:10
AlexGersry00:10
AlexGerno00:11
AlexGercitrix00:11
AlexGerxenserver00:11
AlexGerhttp://pastebin.com/msjGPkcp00:13
TheWonderingGuruHello everyone, quick question. What do I do to switch my clock in lubuntu 11.10 from 24 hour time to normal time?00:13
wxlTheWonderingGuru: replace %H with %I00:14
wxladd %p at the end if you want AM/PM00:15
davidkAlexGer: http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=29796900:15
TheWonderingGuruIt only gave me the hour when I switched from %R to %I. I would like it to show up as for example 8:15pm00:15
wxlthen you want %I:%M%p00:16
AlexGerthis guy has ha way for ubuntu, but it isn't working at all ->00:16
AlexGerhttp://www.jansipke.nl/installing-xenserver-tools-on-ubuntu-10-04/00:16
wxldon't there there's lowercase am/pm00:16
TheWonderingGuruYou are sincerely badass, thank you so much!00:16
wxlnp00:16
TheWonderingGuruThat has been annoying me for sooo long00:17
TheWonderingGurulol00:17
wxli read the "man date" ;000:17
davidkTheWonderingGuru: 24 hours IS normal :P00:17
wxli was going to say that davidk but i didn't XD00:17
TheWonderingGuruNormal if I was still in college, but it annoys the crap out of me.00:17
TheWonderingGurulol00:17
TheWonderingGuruLike I know the times, but my mind automatically has to do a little math.00:17
TheWonderingGuruWhen I am in a rush doing 10 other things at once, I want to know what time it is at a glance.00:18
davidkTheWonderingGuru: over here we only use 24h digital clocks. it is now 02:1800:18
wxli used to have a binary clock set up00:18
wxlnow that's doing math00:18
TheWonderingGuruIntriguing.00:18
TheWonderingGuruBinary clock00:18
TheWonderingGuruhow would that work like its 010010101 o clock or something?00:18
wxlhttp://binary.onlineclock.net/00:18
davidkwxl: it would be, but last I checked the "binary clock" only did decimal digits in binary, not the whole time00:18
TheWonderingGuruNow that is strange lol00:19
TheWonderingGuruCool though!00:19
davidkwxl: better than the stuff I've seen for sale00:19
TheWonderingGuruI've been a distro hopper for awhile now and I am finding more and more that I am recommending Lubuntu for people seeking to make the switch to Linux.00:20
wxlditto00:20
wxli've pretty much gone and called it home00:20
TheWonderingGuruThe fastest distro out there in my opinion, the only one that semi keeps up without much style is puppy linux or a custom built arch linux with lxde.00:20
wxltho i did inadvertently get a friend hooked on bodhi ;)00:20
wxlpuppy = barf00:21
wxlarch is the only other one i really like00:21
davidkyesterday I installed kubuntu for the first time00:21
davidkKDE crashed00:21
TheWonderingGuruI would love to give arch a real go, but I don't know the ins and outs of it like I do with debian based distros.00:21
Unit193Needed low? AntiX? SliTaz?00:21
wxlhahahahah00:21
davidktoday I wanted to install lubuntu00:21
davidkinstaller crashed00:21
davidkthis whole *ubuntu is not working for me so far :P00:22
Unit193Though, if this isn't support I suppose #lubuntu-offtopic would be better.00:22
TheWonderingGuruI did have an issue with the lubuntu installer once, scared the crap out of me. Which version did you try?00:22
wxlinstaller crashed? that's strange. how did you install, which version, etc.?00:22
davidkTheWonderingGuru: today the normal one, tomorrow the alternate one00:22
TheWonderingGuru12.04?00:22
wxliso to cd davidk ?00:22
davidkwxl: yes00:22
wxlassumedly you checked the md5?00:23
davidkwxl: no, but that is not the issue, works way too long00:23
davidkI'll check for you00:23
wxlwhat computer?00:23
TheWonderingGuruHonestly, with all ubuntu based distro releases, you want to give it a good 3-4 months for them to work out all of the issues. Im using version 11.10 and honestly its rock solid stable with absolutely no issues.00:24
TheWonderingGuruI would go with 11.10 if I were you.00:24
TheWonderingGurudouble the honesty double the fun00:24
wxlchecking release notes no obvious installer issues00:25
TheWonderingGurusometimes I don't look at my sentences before I press enter lol.00:25
davidkwxl: md5 is ok00:25
wxlwhat did the crash report say?00:25
davidkwxl: Dell Latitude C510/C61000:25
davidkwxl: there is no report, X just crashes after finishing the copy process00:26
TheWonderingGuruSigning off, namaste everyone00:26
wxlDell Studio XPS 1340,Alienware m17x has some problem on boot but assumedly that's unrelated00:26
wxlta TheDrums00:26
wxlup00:26
wxloh well00:26
davidkwxl: i386 version, REALLY old hardware00:26
wxlhm. there's plenty of people using 12.04 on old hardware00:26
davidkwait, I'll get the dmesg line from the log00:26
wxlheck, even the ppc guys are doing ok00:26
wxlthat's a good idea00:26
davidkposted it here00:27
davidkabout 8 hours ago00:27
davidk "init: lightdm main process (8546) terminated with status 1"00:27
wxlso it's a process with starting lightdm00:28
wxlinteresting00:28
davidkreproducable, tried it twice00:28
AlexGerlol can't apt get...00:30
davidkand now I'm off to bed. 2:30 is late enough. good night everyone.00:31
AlexGerdavidk: thanks! good night00:32
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Guest73135I'm insalling via usb and it seems to be stalled at 50%....do I cancell?03:34
Guest73135Anyone?03:35
Guest73135hello?03:39
Guest73135dammit, do I shut down and rety or not?03:42
IAmNotThatGuyGuest73135, What is the screen saying?03:42
Unit193How long have you waited?03:42
IAmNotThatGuyIs that stuck up with a certain package or is it just showing 50 % ?03:42
Guest7313550% loaded and waiting for the past 20 mins03:43
Guest73135No hard drive light activity\03:43
IAmNotThatGuyAre you dual booting?03:43
Guest73135Yes03:44
IAmNotThatGuy20 mins is way too much. Just try a reboot, do a checksum first and then proceed with the install from live USB03:44
IAmNotThatGuybrb. Showers03:45
jmarsdenYou could use Alt-F1 to Alt-F4 first to see if any consoles have useful error messages in them, before rebooting.03:45
IAmNotThatGuyUnit193, the table is all yours :)03:45
Unit193CTRL+alt+F1 - CTRL+alt+F4, and if you do reboot, there should be an option to check install media.03:46
IAmNotThatGuyjmarsden, I believe there might be a missing driver or something. Or else it will throw an error outside (AFAIK)03:46
jmarsdenYes, it really isn03:46
jmarsden't supposed to hang like that... but you never know, there might be some useful info there in one of the text mode consoles... waiting isn't going to do anything useful, so after checking the consoles, a reboot seems a good idea.03:47
IAmNotThatGuylaters04:20
xisorshadowanyone alive over here? i need some help06:29
Unit193!ask06:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:29
xisorshadowlol06:29
Unit193Though, it is 230am :P06:29
xisorshadowhow do i change the default environment from lxde, to xbmc?06:29
xisorshadowim on xbmcbuntu, which is built on lubuntu06:30
xisorshadowor at least make it so xbmc launches at startup automatically06:30
xisorshadoweither way is perfectly fine06:30
Unit193Never seen xbmcbuntu, but are you looking for the "Session" section of the llogin screen?06:32
xisorshadowim not sure, i want it to automatically run xbmc session when it boots instead of lxde06:33
xisorshadowits a choice on the login screen, but how do i make it DEFAULT?06:33
Unit193What version of Ubuntu?06:33
xisorshadow11. something06:33
xisorshadow11.10 i think06:33
xisorshadownever used linux before XD06:34
xisorshadowxbmcbuntu is lubuntu with xbmc built in, its for using as a media center06:34
valdur55login screen remembers last choise06:34
Unit193So you should have LXDM? /etc/lxdm/ and there should be a config file in there.06:34
xisorshadowvaldur55: really? will it also remember my password and auto log me in?06:34
n1ckn4me09876543how do I reuse a cd-rw in linux?  on Windows OS, all I do is go to My Computer, right click cd-rom, click ERASE THIS DISC then voila I can reuse the disc again08:43
davidkn1ckn4me09876543: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html08:47
n1ckn4me09876543davidk: thnx, will look into it08:50
AmberJ_Anyone here using Lubuntu 12.04 on bare metal?09:01
AmberJ_I mean is it stable enough to install it on HDD? Or, are most people using it in a VM?09:01
not_foundstable enough for sure09:02
Unit193It was released last month and all...09:02
Unit193Upgrade from 11.10 even went well.09:03
AmberJ_I won't be able to upgrade on this machine with slowish ~60kbps down throughput connection...09:04
AmberJ_But now that you guys say it, I can sure install from scratch09:04
* AmberJ_ downloads lubuntu-12.04-amd64.iso09:04
AmberJ_Thanks not_found and Unit193 :)09:05
Unit193Yeppers.09:05
not_foundAmberJ, enjoy :)09:05
KETCHUP_BOTTLEAmber, no, better to go with xubuntu, lubuntu sucks snot on a hot sultry day09:12
Unit193KETCHUP_BOTTLE: Please don't do that. If you don't like it, make a blog post or something.09:18
not_found+109:19
KETCHUP_BOTTLEUnit193, does that apply to you too?  Should you make a blog post or "something"?09:19
Unit193If I didn't like Lubuntu, I'd part this channel.09:20
KETCHUP_BOTTLEIf you liked another ubuntu, you'd join it?09:20
Unit193Bashing other distros, this distro, or anyone is not acceptable here.09:21
KETCHUP_BOTTLEUnit, you see it as bashing, I see it as advising09:22
KETCHUP_BOTTLEI spent a good week trying to get Lubuntu working09:22
KETCHUP_BOTTLEIt's Lubuntu's choice to improve ir09:22
KETCHUP_BOTTLEit09:23
Unit193It's working find for me and many others, so please don't do it again.09:23
Unit193Report bugs if there are errors.09:23
Unit193!bugs  | KETCHUP_BOTTLE09:23
ubottuKETCHUP_BOTTLE: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.09:23
KETCHUP_BOTTLEUnit, so, oligarchy is strong in your neck of the woods?09:23
KETCHUP_BOTTLEok, I will abide09:24
KETCHUP_BOTTLEgoodbye09:24
Unit193Thank you.09:24
not_foundah |:( was hoping to see a kick to the head09:24
Unit193Heh.09:24
not_foundwell handled sir :)09:25
Unit193Thanks.09:25
AmberJ_heh, trolls09:28
AmberJ_As if I was going to follow his advice to switch to another distro...09:29
AmberJ_"IF" 12.04 had, any problems, I would prefer to stick with 11.10 (which works fine on this laptop).09:29
not_foundAmberJ, choice is yours :) but 12.04 is A-OK AFAIK09:32
AmberJ_I said "IF" it had any problems. Now that you say there aren't, I'll try installing it :)09:36
not_found:) well tell us how it went and if there was problems blame Unit19309:42
AmberJ_heh sure, I'll report here :)09:49
leszekhi14:38
light_is there an option for lubuntu when the computer lid close what the computer will do?14:38
light_hi leszek14:38
diegoyes14:39
diegopower management menu14:39
leszeklight_: open up the xfce4-power-manager preferences14:39
light_ive found iot14:39
light_it*14:39
light_okay14:39
light_thanks14:39
light_;P14:39
theixleI'm experiencing issues with tail command in lubuntu 12.04. I'm not sure it's related to lubuntu necessarily but I only am noticing it on this machine currently.15:13
theixleCan anyone suggest any good ways of determing what the problem could be? It seems really odd to have such a standard and prolific utility not work. Basically it's not updating regardless of using -F or -f15:14
theixlextail works (just slowly without the -s option), and less -F works, but I need to display a file with ANSI color codes15:15
diegohave you checked if there are open bugs?15:28
theixleI can't find anything reported.15:28
theixleAlmost everyone's issues on the forums were from people having their file changed and not using -F15:28
fw190hello16:14
fw190I've got a question/problem16:15
LordOfTimeso ask?16:15
LordOfTime!ask16:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:15
fw190I would like to install Lubuntu, but I have already installed Ubuntu and now I want to wipe the ubuntu and have only clean lubuntu when I paritioned my disk for ubuntu i made swap / and /home. Is there a clean way to wipe ubuntu, save my data and install lubuntu16:16
EliahKaganfw190: yes, you can do that -- just back up all your documents and important files to another drive (or cloud storage or email or another machine or something), then when run you run the Lubuntu installer, tell it to use the whole disk (not to "install alongside")16:19
fw190ah so this is the hard way16:20
LordOfTimefw190:  you could just install lubuntu-desktop and uninstall ubuntu-desktop16:20
EliahKaganhowever, you probably do not need to do that, since there is a technique for converting a regular Ubuntu system into a Lubuntu system (without the other stuff): first install the package called lubuntu-desktop, then do this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu16:20
LordOfTimeah yeah that'd work16:20
EliahKaganLordOfTime: well, uninstalling ubuntu-desktop doesn't always do the trick, because there are a lot of other packages installed with Ubuntu and unless you installed Ubuntu by manually installing ubuntu-desktop (and haven't subsequently installed other software manually that pulls in any of it as dependencies), they may not be marked as automatically installed (so they wouldn't be removed with apt-get autoremove)16:21
LordOfTimeEliahKagan:  if you use purge it will, in 75% of times.16:22
fw190so now I'm confused- two opinions ;)16:22
fw190to sum up. I install lubuntu-desktop16:22
LordOfTimefw190:  use EliahKagan's recommendation16:23
LordOfTimenot mine16:23
fw190and then do the thingie from the link provided16:23
fw190and this will lead me to a celan lubuntu16:23
fw190or other programs installed wil stay?16:23
fw190I'm preparing an image on pendrive would it be possible to install it like I did with ubuntu - I remenber that there was an option to overwrite ubuntu with ubuntu. Is ther an option to overwrite ubuntu with lubuntu?16:28
LordOfTimeoverwrite may overwrite the important stuff16:28
LordOfTimei'd back up your /home stuff before messing with what is or isnt on the system anyways16:28
LordOfTimejust because16:28
fw190ok. it seems to me that I will end up wiht backing up 250GB of data anyway. Tahnk you for helping and answers given. All the best16:30
LordOfTimewell i recommend backups anyways regardless16:30
LordOfTimebecause that's what technicians do16:30
LordOfTimeheck, i make weekly backups of my home directories :P16:30
EliahKaganLordOfTime: using purge or --purge never changes what packages get removed by an autoremove; the only difference between remove and purge is that purge removes systemwide configuration files16:30
EliahKagani think you may have just gotten lucky and had everything you wanted gone marked as installed automatically as dependencies of the metapackage you removed16:31
EliahKaganbackups are good16:31
LordOfTimeEliahKagan:  aptitude seems to do that well :P16:31
* LordOfTime uses aptitude almost exclusively16:31
LordOfTimehaving said this, 95% of the time im' in CLI regardless of DE, so... :P16:31
EliahKaganthat's a good point...i use apt-get most of the time16:31
LordOfTimeyeah, for installing apt-get's pretty decent16:32
LordOfTimesome reason i like aptitude though *shrugs*16:32
pcroqueIf I upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 will files in ~/.config get overwritten (autostart, lubuntu-rc.xml, etc)?17:28
Unit193Shouldn't, but always good to backup.17:30
LordOfTime^ that17:31
pcroqueThanks. Yes...I'll backup the backup!17:31
pcroqueI'm looking forward to a smooth and painless upgrade...not that that ever happened for me with Ubuntu...but hoping Lubuntu is different.17:34
Unit193Same core, just with LXDE and different default programs and settings.  It did go well for me though.17:36
pcroqueGood to hear it. Lubuntu is the greatest!17:38
tataI have Lubuntu 10.04, how can I watch tv live on internet?17:49
smile4linuxOf course! :)17:49
smile4linuxwith flash? :p17:49
smile4linux:)17:49
tata???17:50
smile4linuxtata: find a website with online tv & you will able to play it with adobe flash player :)17:50
tataits not work, told me, I need to instal something like video stream or something like this17:52
holsteintata: if it has a proprietary player that is not made to work with linux, it wont work17:53
holsteinits likely just flash though, as smile4linux suggests... i would try installing the chrome browser, and go from there... https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/17:54
smile4linuxchromium or firefox, tata ? :p17:55
holsteini suggest chrome as a troubleshooting step since it has the most current version of flash available for linux AFAIK17:55
tatasea monkey 2.0., it is mozilla17:56
Unit193Also, I've been recommending to purge flashplugin-installer, adding !partner repo, and installing adobe-flashplugin.17:56
holsteinUnit193: good idea!17:57
smile4linuxtata: maybe that's the cause of your problem (your browser)17:57
tatamaybe17:58
tataI delete chromium two years ago and install seamonkey17:59
holsteintata: chromiumm wont have current flash18:00
holsteintata: to get current flash, you can try chrome, or do what Unit193 suggests18:01
holsteintata: it is *not* the browser anyways... its the flash version18:01
holsteinif flash is involved, and something is funky, its flash that is the issue18:01
EliahKaganChrome and Chromium are different -- Chrome is proprietary and has Adobe Flash built in, and it generally is the latest version18:02
tataok i will18:02
holsteinim not suggesting you switch to the chrome browser tata , im just saying that *if* you install it for testing puproses, and your TV works, then its safe to assume its flash18:03
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rnshey?19:07
rnsI installed (?) qcad. Can't ‌find it on the menu. Now what?19:09
bioterrordpkg -L qcad19:10
bioterrorit will show you where the binary is installed19:10
Unit193It's a meta, librecad is the real one.19:10
rnsok. meta? that's over my head.19:19
rnsdpkq -L qcad .... that's in the terminal?19:20
rnsSo how do I start it? How do I get it on the menu?19:23
daswortIs it right that lubuntu has only 3 y support? Why is it so? Doesn't use lubuntu the official repos of ubuntu?22:26
GridCubedaswort, lubuntu has no lts22:37
GridCubenot even 3 years22:38

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