[12:15] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[16:32] <BLZbubba> oh my god what will it take to get plymouth & upstart removed from 12.10?
[16:34] <jtaylor> pymouth no idea, but upstart will stay
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> BLZbubba, nice nic that is funny. :)
[16:49] <bjsnider> they aren't going to use systemd at this point, so upstart stays, and plymouth was added a couple of releases ago, no reason to remove it
[16:54] <jbicha> BLZbubba: you're welcome to try Fedora 17 if you need systemd
[17:44] <BLZbubba> wilee-nilee: :) thanks
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[17:45] <BLZbubba> jbicha: even a big list of commands in rc.local would be preferable to upstart, upstart is junk