[20:05] <eli_> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:05] <eli_> haloo
[20:05] <eli_> i have a problem in ubn 12
[20:06] <eli_> the screen is scrumble
[20:06] <eli_> any ideas?
[20:09] <eli_> anybody here? any help?
[20:22] <Avihay> eli_: you can try to run a non-3d accelerated desktop
[20:24] <Avihay> umm, let me make sure of something: you can boot without a problem and see the log-in screen but when you log-in there are problems?
[20:25] <eli_> the problems starts after log in immiedtly
[20:26] <eli_> i cant boot after i logged on
[20:27] <Avihay> then try to use a non-3d accelerated desktop (like unity2d or gnome2)
[20:28] <Avihay> you can select a different desktop environment from the log-in screen
[20:28] <Avihay> eli_: ^
[20:28] <eli_> ok - wait i'll try
[20:28] <Avihay> you may talk in Hebrew if it's easier for you
[20:29] <eli_> ok
[20:30] <eli_> יש לי שתי אופציות : ubuntu2D   &    אובנטו
[20:30] <Avihay> try the 2d
[20:31] <eli_> עבדי
[20:31] <eli_> תודה רבה
[20:31] <eli_> מה הייתה הבעיה?
[20:31] <Avihay> ok, now you have a good environment to work with
[20:32] <Avihay> your 3d driver has a problem
[20:32] <eli_> איך מתקנים?
[20:32] <Avihay> we can probably fix it by installing the propriatory driver so you can have 3d acceleration
[20:32] <eli_> אתה מתכוון לבעיה בחומרה?
[20:32] <Avihay> no, it's software
[20:32] <eli_> ok
[20:33] <Avihay> usually hardware manufacturers don't create drivers for linux, so linux users have to work blindly to create a driver for linux
[20:33] <eli_> מרכז התכנה של אובנטו יכול לעזור?
[20:33] <Avihay> ok, let's first make sure of what GFX card you have
[20:34] <Avihay> will you be so kind as to open a terminal window and type "lspci | grep vga" (without the "")
[20:34] <eli_> בטח, אני רק איטי קצת
[20:34] <Avihay> lspci = list (what devices are on the) PCI bus
[20:35] <Avihay>  grep vga = show only lines that contain the word "vga"
[20:36] <Avihay> so, ATI or AMD?  better show me the whole line if you can. you can run an IRC client from your linux desktop and copy-paste
[20:37] <eli_> איך אני פותח חלון טרמינל?
[20:37] <eli_> המעבד הוא AMD
[20:37] <Avihay> umm, I don't really use gnome, I forgot how it's called
[20:37] <Avihay> sec
[20:38] <Avihay> if you press alt+f2, do you get a run dialog?
[20:39] <eli_> כן
[20:39] <Avihay> ok, try writeing gnome-terminal in it
[20:40] <Avihay> and enter, I guess
[20:40] <Avihay> if that doesn't work, run xterm
[20:41] <eli_> זה נפתח
[20:41] <Avihay> ok
[20:41] <Avihay> lspci | grep vga
[20:42] <Avihay> you can run just "lspci" to see the full output
[20:42] <Avihay> and you might want to run an IRC client from the linux machine so you can copy/paste
[20:43] <eli_> כתבתי את שורת הפקודה שנתת למעלה - התוצאה כלום
[20:44] <eli_> יש "|" ?ון? נכ
[20:44] <Avihay> yes
[20:44] <Avihay> try just "lspci"
[20:46] <Avihay> ok, you should get a listing of the cards in your computer. find the one that describes the make and model of your GFX card. it usually has the word VGA in the same line
[20:46] <Avihay> ahh, it's VGA and not vga...
[20:46] <Avihay> lspci | grep VGA
[20:48] <eli_> אני מחליף למשתמש eli99
[20:49] <eli99> hi
[20:49] <Avihay> hi
[20:49] <Avihay> lspci | grep VGA
[20:50] <eli99> elias@elias-MS-7309:~$ lspci | grep VGA 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] (rev a2)
[20:50] <Avihay> there are also ls, lsusb, lshw and a few other neat utilities like that
[20:51] <eli99> so my vga card is geforce
[20:51] <Avihay> ok, you have an nVidia card. nVida cards like ATI card have two sets of drivers. the open-source one (it's the one installed by deafult and for you, it doesn't seem to work)
[20:51] <Avihay> and the closed-sourced one that nVidia is making
[20:52] <Avihay> installing the closed-source one will probably let you enjoy 3D acceleration
[20:52] <eli99> ok
[20:52] <Avihay> ubuntu has an easy to use GUI to doing that
[20:52] <eli_> איך?
[20:53] <Avihay> tell me if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:54] <Avihay> otherwise, I'll guide you on how to do it from the terminal
[20:56] <eli_> אני מנסה עכשיו
[20:56] <Avihay> good luck
[20:58] <eli_> מוריד ומתקין
[20:58] <eli_> :)
[20:58] <Avihay> oh, good, I don't know how it looks on your side, and I thought I need to guide you blindly
[21:01] <eli_> בינתיים זה מתקין
[21:02] <eli_> דרך אגב אני זוכר שזה אותה בעיה שהייתה לי כאשר הייתה לי פידורה 15
[21:03] <eli_> מפעיל מחדש
[21:04] <eli_> הצלחנו אחי
[21:04] <eli_> אני מודה לך מאד
[21:04] <eli_> אין עליך
[22:21] <nady> ?
[22:23] <nady> חג שמח
[22:33] <nady> מה עושים?
[22:45] <nady> מישהו ער?