| wilee-nilee | could we have a user removed at #ubntuforums Transhumanist | 02:21 |
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| wilee-nilee | #ubuntuforums | 02:21 |
| wilee-nilee | xrated spam | 02:21 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | wilee-nilee, Your request will be processed and we do not permit idling here. Thanks | 03:35 |
| bazhang | <Harris> bazhang go to my channel <--- keeps soliciting people to help him in his channel | 04:32 |
| bazhang | seems like offtopic, and advertising | 04:32 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from harris) | 04:51 |
| bazhang | all the notifier bots seem to be down | 05:09 |
| ikonia | hey Inquisitor thanks for joining | 10:31 |
| Inquisitor | no prob | 10:32 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: care to explain what that bot is all about please ? | 10:32 |
| Inquisitor | i m connecting towards few network at a same time | 10:32 |
| Inquisitor | but is a trouble to connect each 1 at the same time | 10:32 |
| Inquisitor | so i made up a server to connect all different network channels | 10:32 |
| Inquisitor | at my own server | 10:32 |
| Inquisitor | :) | 10:32 |
| ikonia | ok, but that bot was relaying other peoples conversation into #ubuntu | 10:32 |
| ikonia | so it was "spamming" ubuntu | 10:33 |
| ikonia | pbd: can we help you ? | 10:33 |
| Inquisitor | is not spamming | 10:33 |
| Inquisitor | i was actually talking | 10:33 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: what is it doing then ? | 10:33 |
| Inquisitor | just now | 10:33 |
| Inquisitor | if i chat on my server chan it will auto relay to #ubuntu | 10:33 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: yes, but that bot is relaying your conversations from other channels/networks into #ubuntu | 10:33 |
| Inquisitor | thats how it works | 10:33 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: ok, well, we can't allow that | 10:33 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: if you want to talk in #ubuntu, you need to join #ubuntu | 10:33 |
| ikonia | pbd: can we help you ? | 10:33 |
| ikonia | !idle | pbd | 10:34 |
| ubottu | pbd: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 10:34 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: if you can remove that bot from joining #ubuntu, I'll remove the ban on it's connection | 10:35 |
| Inquisitor | ikonia i m having an issue here with my main server | 10:35 |
| Inquisitor | :( | 10:35 |
| ikonia | I'm sorry about that | 10:35 |
| Inquisitor | IdleOne | 10:36 |
| Inquisitor | ikonia | 10:36 |
| Inquisitor | do u have any idea why is it happening ? | 10:36 |
| ikonia | no idea, I don't manage your server | 10:36 |
| Inquisitor | well i have updated the sql by apt-get update | 10:36 |
| Inquisitor | all my bloges gone.... | 10:36 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: I'm happy to help you in #ubuntu, if you can remove that bot from auto joining | 10:37 |
| Inquisitor | ok | 10:37 |
| Inquisitor | gimme a while | 10:37 |
| ikonia | Inquisitor: if you /part this channel and just rejoin when you've removed the bot, I'll remove the connection ban | 10:38 |
| === gry- is now known as gry | ||
| popey | who owns twobottux? | 12:53 |
| popey | amithkk maybe? | 12:53 |
| popey | yes.. | 12:53 |
| elky | yep | 13:05 |
| mcloy | helo | 13:17 |
| IdleOne | hello mcloy | 13:18 |
| mcloy | iam banned for months. may i know the reason? (#ubuntu) | 13:18 |
| IdleOne | How can I be of assistance today? | 13:18 |
| IdleOne | yes, you can. | 13:18 |
| IdleOne | looks like you were banned because of multiple cross postings in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server and also ban evading. | 13:19 |
| IdleOne | The cross posting issue is easily resolved. You just have to stop. The ban evading is a little more concerning though. | 13:20 |
| IdleOne | !guidelines | mcloy please have a read of the guidelines and let me know if you understand and agree to abide by them | 13:21 |
| ubottu | mcloy please have a read of the guidelines and let me know if you understand and agree to abide by them: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 13:21 |
| ikonia | the bottom line is mcloy knew not to cross-posted, he's been asked multiple times not to do it, and just bluntly refused to stop | 13:21 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, will the ban remain and should i /part or do my fingers have a future :) ? | 13:22 |
| IdleOne | I think that if mcloy agrees to stop cross posting we can agree to give him a chance | 13:22 |
| ikonia | to be honest I don't | 13:23 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: the ban will remain until you agree to stop doing what it is that got you banned | 13:23 |
| ikonia | I shouldn't have to ban someone | 13:23 |
| mcloy | we= "?" | 13:23 |
| ikonia | mcloy's attitude stinks, I spent details explaining why cross-posting was not helpful, and appox 90 seconds after that detailed explainition he did it again, and refused to comply | 13:23 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: we = the ops team | 13:23 |
| mcloy | who will lift off the ban. ? you or some other person (who banned me if may i ask in the first place)? | 13:23 |
| ikonia | I shouldn't have to ban someone for such a simple thing to follow, I can only asume mcloy was trying to push the rules and break them | 13:24 |
| ikonia | mcloy: I banned you | 13:24 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: ikonia is the one who set the ban and any one of the ops can remove it if they feel you understand not to repeat the behaviour | 13:24 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, as you can see. its not cross posting or ban evading. its personalism coming from ikonia | 13:24 |
| ikonia | mcloy: I banned you because you refused to stop cross-posting | 13:25 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, if you can remove it. ill be happy :) | 13:25 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: ok, I see. I think the ban will stay in place for another 15 days minimum. | 13:25 |
| IdleOne | I hope you return then with a different outlook. Have a nice day. | 13:25 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, as you please .. | 13:25 |
| ikonia | mcloy: I asked you multiple times to not cross-post so that I didn't have to ban you as that wasn't he plan | 13:25 |
| ikonia | but as soon as I'd explained it in pretty long detail, you cross-posted straight after, you didn't really leave me much option | 13:26 |
| * mcloy doesnt cares to talk to ikonia atleast. | 13:26 | |
| ikonia | mcloy: in that case, if you don't want to talk to me, we are done. | 13:26 |
| mcloy | <IdleOne> mcloy: the ban will remain until you agree to stop doing what it is that got you banned | 13:26 |
| LjL | mcloy: then why should we care to talk to you? | 13:26 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, if i agree.. then can you lift up now? | 13:26 |
| mcloy | LjL, we !=ikonia | 13:26 |
| mcloy | #ubuntu!=ikonia OKAY | 13:27 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: unfortunately no. you chose to blame others for your behaviour instead of owning it. think about that for 2 weeks | 13:27 |
| LjL | mcloy: if you don't even accept to talk to one of our ops (especially the one who banned you), i'm absolutely not inclined to help you, personally. | 13:27 |
| mcloy | thats the truth. not a blame . its not cross posting or ban evading. its personalism coming from ikonia | 13:27 |
| LjL | so you did not cross post or ban evade? | 13:28 |
| mcloy | that is my choice. you can ban me for 15 years. i wont talk to ikonia | 13:28 |
| mcloy | that my choice | 13:28 |
| LjL | sure | 13:28 |
| mcloy | are you forcing me to? | 13:28 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: We are done for today. Don't make this harder on yourself and us. Come back in 2 weeks. | 13:28 |
| mcloy | ok. | 13:29 |
| IdleOne | thank you. | 13:29 |
| mcloy | iam stoping using ubuntu and its support | 13:29 |
| IdleOne | ok. | 13:29 |
| IdleOne | I hear arch is good. | 13:29 |
| IdleOne | Please part this channel. | 13:29 |
| mcloy | redhat | 13:29 |
| mcloy | is this channel loged? | 13:29 |
| mcloy | :) | 13:30 |
| IdleOne | it is | 13:30 |
| IdleOne | !logs | 13:30 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 13:30 |
| mcloy | great for me | 13:30 |
| mcloy | bye. | 13:30 |
| IdleOne | bye. | 13:30 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops mcloy refuses to accept responsability for not following the rules or ban dodging. Please be aware of history when considering granting access to the channel | 13:30 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 13:30 |
| IdleOne | I tried working with him, offered him a out, he refused it :/ | 13:31 |
| StephenS | I love ubuntu | 13:33 |
| IdleOne | Awesome. How can we help you? | 13:33 |
| ikonia | hi StephenS | 13:33 |
| StephenS | hi | 13:33 |
| StephenS | I want to become ubuntu op helper | 13:33 |
| StephenS | possible | 13:33 |
| IdleOne | !canibeanop | 13:34 |
| ubottu | If you are interested in joining the Ops team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc. | 13:34 |
| IdleOne | look at that, follow instructions. good luck :) | 13:34 |
| IdleOne | Please don't idle in this channel StephenS | 13:34 |
| Fuchs | (note that he was a bit in a goofy mood in other channels today, might need an eye on) | 13:36 |
| IdleOne | noted | 13:36 |
| LjL | more like, he's a troll | 13:36 |
| * Fuchs puts a deerstalker on LjL | 13:37 | |
| Fuchs | he has his good moments, though | 13:37 |
| Fuchs | just seem to be some phases he goes through. Anyway, off for a bit, have fun :) | 13:37 |
| * LjL goes to stalk deer | 13:38 | |
| mcloy | IdleOne, iam here | 14:01 |
| ikonia | mcloy: you've been told come back in 2 weeks | 14:02 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: As I told you earlier. I was willing to unban you had you read and agreed to follow the guidelines. You instead chose to accuse ikonia of having personal reasons for banning you. | 14:02 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: I asked him to rejoin just now | 14:02 |
| ikonia | ahhh | 14:02 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, ill sure follow the guides | 14:02 |
| ikonia | apoloies | 14:02 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: first step to redemption is accepting our own failures. | 14:02 |
| IdleOne | you did not. | 14:03 |
| mcloy | ok.. | 14:03 |
| ikonia | mcloy: for the recording pm'ing users in other channels with abuse about me won't helpyou | 14:03 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: I'm sorry, I'm going to cut you off as I've just had users tell me that mcloy is pm'ing them abuse about me | 14:03 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, i do. | 14:03 |
| IdleOne | So, now I will ask you again to wait 2 more weeks and then return here and we can discuss removing the ban at that time. asking in #freenode is not going to help because freenode staff do not get involved in channel issues | 14:03 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops mcloy asked to come back in 2 weeks, instead chooses to pm other users with abuse about me. Unable to participate in channels | 14:04 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 14:04 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, i request that i have already been baned for a very long time. and its fair enough now to lift up the ban. | 14:04 |
| mcloy | and stop all and my self to be personalism. ubuntu is alot biger thing than personalism | 14:05 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: request has been processed and declined. Also, stop abusing ikonia and harassing other users. | 14:05 |
| mcloy | the ban will be lifted in 2 weeks? | 14:05 |
| mcloy | i dont even want to talk to ikonia. how can i abuse her | 14:06 |
| IdleOne | We will see in two weeks provided your behavious in this matter improves greatly. | 14:06 |
| IdleOne | behaviour* | 14:06 |
| ikonia | mcloy: you pm'd a user calling me an asshole and asking to get you unbanned from #ubuntu | 14:06 |
| ikonia | mcloy: that is unacceptable. | 14:06 |
| mcloy | its been a month. . more than that i think. my behaviour was nice since then. not talking to ikonia is my personal preference | 14:07 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: you can discuss this issue with any of the #ubuntu ops, it does not have to be ikonia. | 14:07 |
| mcloy | hm. glade to choose you | 14:07 |
| ikonia | mcloy: tell you what, come back when you WILL talk to me, because the bottom line is, you are not going back in the channel until you start talking to me/confirming you understand what I'm saying to you | 14:07 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, you just said that if i follow guides. you will remain ban right now. i can promise that. please have some time to rethink. i can come back in some minutes | 14:08 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: 2 weeks, no sooner | 14:08 |
| mcloy | you said to remove right now. was that a mistake/ | 14:08 |
| IdleOne | I did not say that | 14:09 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: sorry - this is unacceptalbe | 14:09 |
| IdleOne | I am telling you 2 weeks | 14:09 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: I agree. please step back. | 14:09 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: a users is stating he is going to ingnore an op, I have no issue with someone else dealing with this, but I'm not going to allow this to continue until it's acklowledged by the user this is unacceptable and stops | 14:09 |
| mcloy | thats what i was talking about. not about cross posting . its personalism. IdleOne now you se | 14:10 |
| mcloy | i didnt said anything wrong or vulgure..right..? | 14:11 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, so .. | 14:12 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: moment please | 14:12 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, ok | 14:12 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: I have to go now. Come back at a later date when you are willing to speak with any one of the members of the ops team including ikonia. Please part the channel now. | 14:13 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, i hope its not cumpulsory to talk to ikonia . as you said i can talk to any op. ill be back in some minutes. | 14:14 |
| ikonia | mcloy: lets make this simepl | 14:15 |
| ikonia | mcloy: did you cross-post yes/no | 14:15 |
| mcloy | or is there any other op available here now? | 14:15 |
| * mcloy waits for another op | 14:15 | |
| ikonia | mcloy: if you don't answer the question, you'll not get this progressed, it's that simple | 14:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | mcloy; hmm? | 14:16 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, hi | 14:16 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, i asume you saw a bit of the above chat. | 14:16 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, i was requesting the ban be lifted. its been more than a month. | 14:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | Mostly you looked for another op? Have to read back still | 14:17 |
| mcloy | il recap | 14:17 |
| mcloy | i was baned by ikonia for cross posting which i to is just personalism. and i didnt wanted to talk to her. i was requesting to lift the ban... | 14:18 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, you can read the rest | 14:18 |
| ikonia | mcloy: the channel is run by the operators, if you are refusing to respond to an operator, you won't be allowed back into the channel | 14:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | "<IdleOne> [16:05:23] mcloy: request has been processed and declined. Also, stop abusing ikonia and harassing other users." | 14:18 |
| ikonia | it's that simple, if you chose to repond and THEN resolve the issues, that's fine | 14:19 |
| mcloy | <IdleOne> mcloy: I have to go now. Come back at a later date when you are willing to speak with any one of the members of the ops team including ikonia. Please part the channel now. | 14:19 |
| ikonia | I'm more than happy for someone else to resolve the issue, but while you are saying "I will ignore a member of the operators team" - it's not going to happen | 14:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | "<mcloy> [16:06:06] i dont even want to talk to ikonia. how can i abuse her" | 14:20 |
| mcloy | ture | 14:20 |
| mcloy | true | 14:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | So I'm not going to interfere here. | 14:20 |
| mcloy | whom to i talk to then? | 14:20 |
| mcloy | an op i gues. and you are one. | 14:21 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, | 14:21 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, fellow ops are fellows but does that have to do anything with rules and justice? (IdleOne if you are not away) | 14:23 |
| ikonia | mcloy: are you going to respond to me yes/no | 14:23 |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, do i have a right to not to respone to an op stating in #ubuntu-ops that it will increase personalism and i have a right not to talk to ? | 14:24 |
| mcloy | injustice | 14:25 |
| ikonia | mcloy: are you going to respond yes/no | 14:25 |
| * mcloy waits for an op | 14:25 | |
| mcloy | MrChrisDruif, do i have a right to not to respone to an op stating in #ubuntu-ops that it will increase personalism and i have a right not to talk to ? | 14:25 |
| Tm_T | hi incog | 14:29 |
| incog | yes, hello | 14:29 |
| incog | mcloy said you were bullying him | 14:29 |
| incog | is this true | 14:29 |
| Tm_T | incog: we do not discuss issues with third party | 14:30 |
| LjL | incog: i'm not sure i see how it's any of your business | 14:30 |
| incog | he's my wife | 14:30 |
| IdleOne | stupid troll | 14:30 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: there is a lot as you said ;) | 14:30 |
| IdleOne | heh | 14:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | Great, now mcloy starts pm'ing me <_<" | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | haha | 14:36 |
| LjL | MrChrisDruif: you're not the only one | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | MrChrisDruif: just explain what's the deal | 14:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | Seems he stopped as I didn't respond ^_^ | 14:38 |
| mcloy | IdleOne, Daviey anyone changed his mind since then? | 19:39 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: have you been following requests of us ops? | 19:46 |
| Myrtti | I would prefer if you'd not try to pm everyone who are/were in the channel, there are people here who can't unban you at all even if they'd want to | 19:47 |
| mcloy | what requests...? | 19:48 |
| mcloy | requests of ops? | 19:48 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: I recall you were asked to be back later, much later than just few hours | 19:48 |
| mcloy | Tm_T, just checking for any mind changing | 19:50 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: what needs to be changed is your behaviour | 19:50 |
| Tm_T | that's the only way you to regain access to #ubuntu | 19:50 |
| mcloy | ok. Tm_T we can start on it | 19:51 |
| mcloy | what do you want me to change | 19:51 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: first, do not blame others of your actions, second, follow requests and instructions from us ubuntu ops, and if you disagree, discuss it here, politely | 19:51 |
| Tm_T | third, you do not, I repeat, you do not ignore ops | 19:52 |
| Tm_T | you can disagree, but ignoring an op is something I atleast won't take lightly | 19:52 |
| mcloy | hm.. | 19:53 |
| mcloy | i dont want to talk to "1" op. just... to make thing calm. i hope that will be ok | 19:53 |
| mcloy | iam ready to cooperate. | 19:54 |
| Tm_T | it's ok to want to discuss with other ops, it's not ok to ignore | 19:54 |
| mcloy | i told you the reason. | 19:55 |
| mcloy | any ways. its been 2 months now | 19:55 |
| mcloy | can you release the ban | 19:55 |
| Tm_T | time doesn't matter | 19:55 |
| mcloy | do you require an oath then? | 19:55 |
| Tm_T | what matters, is that you show that I can trust you won't do what caused you being banned to begin with | 19:56 |
| mcloy | how can i do that.. oath? | 19:56 |
| Tm_T | no oath required | 19:57 |
| Tm_T | do you understand you cannot ignore the rules the operators give you? | 19:57 |
| mcloy | i thought waiting for 4 hours after 2 months to be part of a comunity would be enough in the first place. | 19:57 |
| mcloy | Tm_T, what you require then? | 19:57 |
| Tm_T | discussing here | 19:58 |
| mcloy | ok. which part? | 19:58 |
| LjL | [21:57:21] <Tm_T> do you understand you cannot ignore the rules the operators give you? | 19:58 |
| LjL | you could start by answering that | 19:58 |
| mcloy | ok | 19:58 |
| mcloy | yes for that | 19:58 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: so, do you understand why you were banned? | 19:59 |
| mcloy | yup.. | 19:59 |
| Tm_T | what was it? | 19:59 |
| mcloy | cros posting. evading a ban once. ignoreing what an op said. | 19:59 |
| Tm_T | and you understand why we cannot allow that? | 20:00 |
| mcloy | ofcourse | 20:00 |
| Tm_T | did you understand it back then? | 20:00 |
| mcloy | crystal.. | 20:00 |
| mcloy | crystal clear i mean | 20:01 |
| Tm_T | interesting | 20:01 |
| Tm_T | so you violated our rules knowingly, which makes me wonder, what has changed | 20:02 |
| mcloy | 2 months remotness from ubuntu is the change. | 20:02 |
| Tm_T | so, if I let you back in, you do follow our guidelines and channel rules, and do respect our community | 20:03 |
| mcloy | Tm_T, why do you think prisoners are release when the did crimes knowingly. | 20:03 |
| mcloy | Tm_T, sure | 20:03 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: ban is not a punishment, prison time is | 20:03 |
| mcloy | hm | 20:03 |
| mcloy | ill follow guidelines and rules... | 20:04 |
| Tm_T | mcloy: this means, you also listen what any of us ops say, and if you disagree, you come here, and do not act against wishes in our other channels? | 20:05 |
| mcloy | ya. i understand that now... didnt knew it before | 20:05 |
| Tm_T | !guidelines > mcloy read this while I check something | 20:06 |
| ubottu | mcloy, please see my private message | 20:06 |
| mcloy | ok | 20:06 |
| mcloy | Tm_T, i already had.. | 20:07 |
| Tm_T | rereading never hurts | 20:07 |
| mcloy | i did that today. i ll do it again if you say so | 20:07 |
| mcloy | Tm_T, done | 20:09 |
| * mcloy waits for Tm_T | 20:13 | |
| Tm_T | mcloy: ban(s) has been removed, I wish you happy ircing on #ubuntu | 20:14 |
| mcloy | thank you. | 20:15 |
| Myrtti | mcloy: was there anything else you needed help with? | 20:26 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: I'm glad to see things got resolved, if you could part this channel now that would be great | 20:26 |
| mcloy | thank you all of you! | 20:26 |
| mcloy | can i free add a comment? | 20:27 |
| IdleOne | go ahead | 20:27 |
| mcloy | before leaving | 20:27 |
| mcloy | i might be wrong in many things. lack of knowledge or frustration/panic , but ikonia did became very personal with me. ubuntu is far more a greater thing than mcloy or ikonia . the behaviour of a designated operator should not be like ikonia 's . it has happend many times before (as i saw happening with other people and some of my friends) "rude behavriour" (suggestion for ubuntu.) | 20:27 |
| mcloy | i could have used another nick or ip and join #ubuntu and no one would know. but i did all that to show something. . it was a great talk with you all... really. | 20:28 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: We appreciate your opinion and will take it into consideration. | 20:28 |
| mcloy | i wish good for ubuntu | 20:28 |
| mcloy | special thanks to all who chatted with me. infact there were so many ops | 20:29 |
| mcloy | ba bye! | 20:29 |
| Daviey | mcloy: Please make sure there is no reason for you to return :) | 20:29 |
| mcloy | not even to say hi?:) | 20:29 |
| IdleOne | you can say hi to us in #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:29 |
| mcloy | i was think i have gone quite popular any way. why not stand in elections this winter... ops contest | 20:30 |
| mcloy | ok.. | 20:30 |
| mcloy | ba bye! | 20:31 |
| IdleOne | bye. | 20:31 |
| Daviey | mcloy: seriously.. people have put faith into you, so don't abuse it. Please leave now, and be a good chappy. | 20:31 |
| mcloy | dont wory. :) i can take guarantee with all other ops.. except one IF (she gets personal again) | 20:32 |
| Tm_T | ... | 20:32 |
| IdleOne | mcloy: Going to ask nicely this time, leave this channel. | 20:32 |
| bazhang | thats not going to work | 20:33 |
| mcloy | i was reply Daviey | 20:33 |
| mcloy | repling | 20:33 |
| mcloy | see you:) | 20:33 |
| Daviey | mcloy: leave please. | 20:33 |
| bazhang | mcloy, bye | 20:33 |
| Tm_T | oh well,I try continue discussion with him, as clearly work is not done yet | 20:34 |
| ikonia | just let it go | 20:34 |
| ikonia | he ust wants a platform, screw it | 20:34 |
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