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| gary_poster | stgraber, I changed that description an hour or so ago | 01:12 |
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| randomDude | would i use puppet to manage firefox addons/settings/bookmarks, googlechrome addons/settings/bookmarks, thunderbird settings/useraccounts for a localnetwork of workstations deployed by a cobbler server? | 01:34 |
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| arooni-mobile | i'm not able to start mysql on ubuntu 10.04 lts; mysql pre-start process (2655) terminated with status 1 ... any ideas on how to fix? thanx! | 03:48 |
| jmarsden | arooni-mobile: read your log files for more details on the error? | 03:50 |
| arooni-mobile | jmarsden, thats all the info i have in my error logs | 03:52 |
| jmarsden | arooni-mobile: Thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499658 suggest maybe bug #573318 is relevant? | 03:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 573318 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "mysql server will not start" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/573318 | 03:55 |
| arooni-mobile | for some reason i can start mysql with safestart but i cant start with upstart /etc/init.d/mysql start | 04:08 |
| arooni-mobile | can someone help me resolve? | 04:08 |
| SpamapS | arooni-mobile: do you have anything in /var/log/mysql* ? | 05:01 |
| pdtpatrick | Question -- what creates the ~/.bashrc ? Reason i ask is I'm not seeing the same configs in /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile .. for instance, where'd this come from: "force_color_prompt" | 05:45 |
| bioman | Hello :) | 06:01 |
| bioman | Using 11.10 Server | 06:01 |
| bioman | Found 3.3.7 kernel here : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3.7-precise/ | 06:01 |
| bioman | Will it work ok ? | 06:02 |
| bioman | Nobody can tell me ? | 06:21 |
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| randomDude | 1. downloaded ubuntu-12.04-alternative-x86_64 iso from mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/, 2. installed a new ubuntu-12.04-x86_64 server in a vm 3. mounted the alternative iso to /media/cdrom 4. sudo apt-get install cobbler cobbler-web puppet 5. checked cobbler web is all up and running yep all good 6. sudo cobbler import --name=ubuntu-12.04-workstation --arch=x86_64 --path=/media/cdrom 7. checked distros : none. | 07:49 |
| randomDude | this exact process works on 10.10, after iso import, there appears the distro in the distro list for cobbler | 07:49 |
| randomDude | ok it worked this time... | 07:50 |
| randomDude | seems cobbler import isn't always reliable | 07:51 |
| Justinsas | Hi everyone, looking for a little help with a troublesome raid5, anyone able to have a look and see if they can help dmesg output is here https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvmcyppkx23y69u/raid.txt | 10:47 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: looks like a bad drive somewhere | 10:48 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: have you run fsck? | 10:48 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: also, check the drives with smartctl -H to see if something is obviously bad | 10:50 |
| Justinsas | It works fine if I reboot but soon after just dies and all drives disappear. | 10:50 |
| Justinsas | I'll run thouse and see what i get. | 10:50 |
| bencer | hi all, quick question, running zabbix 1.8.11 from precise, new item proc.num[slapd], running zabbix_agent -t proc.num[slapd] returns [u|1] while latest data reports 0, any idea what could be wrong here? | 10:50 |
| Justinsas | RoyK I've just removed a drive and sent it off because the raid told me it was failed. | 10:54 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: bingo ;) | 10:55 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: hope you have something to replace it with | 10:55 |
| Justinsas | But I thought the raid would be ok to run without one drive | 10:55 |
| Justinsas | it just wouldn't have any redundancy? | 10:55 |
| Justinsas | RoyK, I thought raid5 could run with one disk gone? | 10:58 |
| drecute | one of my filesystem failed to mount and now i can't reach the login console | 11:27 |
| alphanoop | I have bought a cheap server off ebay and have it on my LAN. I have installed Ubuntu Server 12.04. Where is a good place to learn to create and administer a website? | 12:14 |
| mardraum | alphanoop: bit of a broad question. Maybe start with a CMS like drupal or wordpress - see their docs | 12:16 |
| alphanoop | mardraum: I have tried Googling a bit and there is a ton of information. I was looking from someone with experience to give me a good n00b starting point or tutorial. | 12:18 |
| mardraum | you haven't given anymore information as to what you want | 12:20 |
| mardraum | do you want a CMS? | 12:20 |
| mardraum | are you interested in the site itself, or playing with web servers ? | 12:20 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: raid5 can run fine with a disk gone, but it's very vulnerable | 12:21 |
| RoyK | Justinsas: since the next disk that dies, will kill the raid | 12:21 |
| alphanoop | Whats a CMS? I know there are different kinds of websites php boards, etc... but I'm looking for a commercial type website. | 12:23 |
| alphanoop | sorry for the ambiguity | 12:24 |
| RoyK | !cms | 12:27 |
| RoyK | cms is a content management system | 12:28 |
| RoyK | usually a database-backed engine for making web pages easier | 12:28 |
| RoyK | with wordpress being a rather simple and very much used one, and drupal and joomla other, more advanced, but somewhat harder to learn | 12:29 |
| streulma | has rebooted a server... 7 minutes | 12:30 |
| streulma | maybe a long time before the raid controller is fully up :) | 12:31 |
| RoyK | some raid systems take ages to boot | 12:31 |
| streulma | haha | 12:32 |
| streulma | no worrys | 12:32 |
| streulma | it works fine now | 12:32 |
| * RoyK doesn't use raid controllers for linux systems anymore | 12:32 | |
| rb_ | hi everybody ! | 12:32 |
| rb_ | It's actually the first time I come to an IRC channel (you have to start sometime ...) ; may I ask you a few questions ? | 12:33 |
| streulma | yes | 12:33 |
| mardraum | you just did... | 12:33 |
| RoyK | !ask | 12:33 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 12:33 |
| rb_ | I'm planning on buying a server - this one : http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201105-8031/ | 12:34 |
| streulma | yes it's good | 12:35 |
| streulma | we use it also | 12:35 |
| RoyK | rb_: and... | 12:35 |
| RoyK | hm.. not certified for precise | 12:35 |
| rb_ | it is said that it can support ubuntu server, however, I saw that the raid1 controller is not supported, | 12:35 |
| streulma | it runs fine with Ubuntu Server 10.04 | 12:35 |
| streulma | raid controller not tested | 12:36 |
| RoyK | rb_: if it's a typical onboard raid-1 thing, it's bogus | 12:36 |
| RoyK | rb_: software raid is just as good, or better, than most hardware raid, so just use that instead | 12:36 |
| ikonia | rb_: so you have good info from the ubuntu site, the server is supported, but the raid controller is not | 12:36 |
| rb_ | but it seems that ... yes indeed software raid can do as fine | 12:36 |
| RoyK | rb_: some "raid" controllers, mostly those on the mobo, aren't really raid controllers. they have most of the raid stuff in the (windows) driver | 12:37 |
| RoyK | rb_: so, really, not a raid controller, perhaps a chip with some acceleration, but hardly worth looking at | 12:37 |
| RoyK | rb_: those controllers normally work well as ordinary disk controllers on linux machines | 12:38 |
| rb_ | I actually don't know much about computer components ; can I just buy this server with only 1 hard drive (and no raid) and then add another hard drive later ? | 12:38 |
| streulma | yes | 12:38 |
| rb_ | (I mean will there be a power supply for it ... ?) | 12:38 |
| streulma | it supports 2 hard drives | 12:38 |
| RoyK | rb_: if you want software raid, the server needs to be installed with it, but you may be able to install on a broken mirror | 12:39 |
| ikonia | rb_: I'd suggest contacting a hardware vendor, such as dell, and asking for advice with component selection | 12:39 |
| RoyK | rb_: do you want mirrored drives? | 12:39 |
| ikonia | rb_: if you are not sure how the basic hardware components work, you may benifit from the vendor helping you | 12:39 |
| rb_ | by mirrored drives you mean raid1 ? | 12:39 |
| RoyK | yes | 12:39 |
| rb_ | yes then | 12:39 |
| RoyK | rb_: then you need to create the mirror during installation | 12:40 |
| rb_ | ok | 12:40 |
| RoyK | rb_: IIRC installer supports creating a mirror on only one disk, aka a broken mirror - while worthless without a second drive, you can easily add the second later | 12:40 |
| rb_ | well my other question was about "UEFI Enablement" : is it worth it ? (I mean, I don't really know what it is ; should I enable it or not ?) | 12:40 |
| RoyK | rb_: UEFI is the new BIOS replacement, which is nice, but I'm not sure if it's as easy to setup as with old BIOS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting | 12:42 |
| rb_ | (sorry, I really am a begiiner) | 12:43 |
| RoyK | nothing to worry about - we've all started somewhere :) | 12:43 |
| rb_ | ok thanks a lot | 12:45 |
| drecute | hi | 13:09 |
| drecute | please I need help with this: http://markmail.org/message/6y4j7f7u6bvvve5f | 13:09 |
| streulma | hi | 13:27 |
| streulma | I have a BIND9 server on Ubuntu Server | 13:28 |
| streulma | the master server notifys the slave | 13:28 |
| streulma | but the slave is not up to date | 13:28 |
| streulma | the slave says it is up to date | 13:28 |
| streulma | but it is not | 13:28 |
| vrturbo | can you see the tcp 53 transfer traffic on the slave ? | 13:34 |
| vrturbo | have you got allow-transfer {slave ip} on the master ? | 13:35 |
| eutheria | does anyone use sssd on their servers? i have a weird issue with local users over uid 100 that don't come from my ldap server | 13:36 |
| vrturbo | have you tried deleting the zone file of the slave server ? | 13:36 |
| vrturbo | streulma, also check the bind / named logs on the slave, the master might be refusing | 13:38 |
| streulma | nothing refusing | 13:42 |
| eutheria | when sssd is running, i change user, has anyone seen anything like this before? http://pastie.org/3971359 | 13:42 |
| streulma | notify from ...... zone is up to date | 13:42 |
| streulma | refresh was 1 week | 13:48 |
| vrturbo | bingo | 13:49 |
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| RoyK | streulma: and serial is updated? and file is writable for the bind user? and apparmor isn't stopping anything? and all logs say ok? | 14:20 |
| streulma | ho, a good check | 14:21 |
| streulma | should I update the serial every time ? | 14:21 |
| streulma | everytime I change a recor | 14:21 |
| streulma | d | 14:21 |
| RoyK | yes | 14:22 |
| streulma | ok | 14:22 |
| RoyK | streulma: and it must be *incremented* every time | 14:22 |
| RoyK | the slave won't update anything unless it sees a larger serial | 14:23 |
| streulma | ow ok | 14:23 |
| streulma | how do I format a serial ? | 14:24 |
| RoyK | the usual way is YYYYMMDDxx, where xx being a serial starting with 00 | 14:24 |
| RoyK | but that's no *defined* way, just a guideline | 14:24 |
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| RoyK | so, for my private domain, I have serial 2012051501, which tells me I changed it, twice, the 15th | 14:26 |
| streulma | ok | 14:27 |
| streulma | I'll see it in a few hours if it's updated | 14:27 |
| RoyK | the slave should be notified immediately and update | 14:28 |
| RoyK | what takes time, is for the changes to propagate out throughout the net where dns servers cache things | 14:28 |
| RoyK | what's your domain name? | 14:28 |
| streulma | it's internal | 14:29 |
| RoyK | ok, then it shouldn't take much time | 14:29 |
| RoyK | as in, change should be immediate | 14:29 |
| RoyK | unless you have another dns server in front, caching | 14:29 |
| streulma | oh, it has not updated the serial in slave | 14:30 |
| RoyK | that's a rather clear hint that something's not good ;) | 14:30 |
| RoyK | check the slave's logs | 14:30 |
| RoyK | what's old/new serial? | 14:30 |
| streulma | old 1 :) | 14:31 |
| streulma | new 2012052601 | 14:31 |
| RoyK | ok :) | 14:31 |
| streulma | zone domain notify from master: zone is up to dae | 14:32 |
| RoyK | wtf | 14:32 |
| RoyK | can you pastebin that master zone file or at least its SOA? | 14:32 |
| streulma | in SOA localhost | 14:33 |
| streulma | we came from a standalone server | 14:33 |
| streulma | should I set SOA ns1.domain ? | 14:37 |
| RoyK | that's not the whole soa | 14:41 |
| RoyK | !pastebin | 14:41 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 14:41 |
| RoyK | this is an example | 14:43 |
| RoyK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008167/ | 14:43 |
| RoyK | line 1-2 isn't part of the SOA, the rest is | 14:43 |
| streulma | it's ok | 14:44 |
| streulma | now | 14:44 |
| streulma | when I retransfer the zone | 14:44 |
| streulma | rndc retransfer zone zonename | 14:44 |
| RoyK | streulma: just rndc reload on the master and the slave gets it? | 14:44 |
| RoyK | you shouldn't need to specifically retransfer | 14:44 |
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| SpamapS | zone transfers.. ugh | 14:48 |
| SpamapS | I was so much happier when I used tinydns+rsync .. :) | 14:48 |
| RoyK | nah - let's go back to the hosts file | 14:50 |
| * RoyK wonders how big that would be these days :D | 14:51 | |
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| haxxpop | From this link, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html, Can I set only Primary Master? | 15:14 |
| * RoyK only uses a single master | 15:19 | |
| RoyK | I guess a secondary master makes sense in a large setup | 15:20 |
| RoyK | for me it doesn't, if the master dies, I promote some slave to the master or reinstall the master and restore from backup | 15:20 |
| haxxpop | replace "example.com" with mine, right?? | 15:22 |
| RoyK | yep | 15:23 |
| haxxpop | Must I change "192.168.1.10" in the document? | 15:24 |
| RoyK | what? | 15:25 |
| RoyK | IN A 192.168.1.10 | 15:25 |
| RoyK | that one is an address record pointing 'example.com' to that ip | 15:25 |
| haxxpop | yes | 15:25 |
| RoyK | so obviously, if you want youdomain.tld to point to that address, keep it ;) | 15:27 |
| haxxpop | my ip is 122.155.18.33, so I should change 192.168.1.10 to 122.155.18.33, shouldn't I? | 15:27 |
| RoyK | yep | 15:27 |
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| haxxpop | In the website of my domain-name vendor, besides 2 ns records, should I add any one else? | 15:32 |
| haxxpop | two ns records are | 15:32 |
| haxxpop | dns1.pathosting.com | 15:33 |
| haxxpop | dns2.pathosting.com | 15:33 |
| haxxpop | while pathosting.com is my domain-name vendor | 15:33 |
| RoyK | then you need an A record for the domain, and one for www, and perhaps one for mail if you want that, and you probably want an MX record to tell things where to send mail@youdomain.tld | 15:34 |
| haxxpop | three A records and one MX record, right? | 15:35 |
| RoyK | as many A records as you might want ;) | 15:36 |
| RoyK | or CNAME for new hostnames that should point to the same server | 15:36 |
| RoyK | CNAME is like an alias | 15:36 |
| haxxpop | when I try to add an A record, it ask me three things: host name, destination ipv4 address, ttl. So I can't add more than one. | 15:39 |
| haxxpop | the host name should be different? | 15:40 |
| RoyK | ttl should be 3600 or perhaps 7200 or even 14400 | 15:40 |
| RoyK | huh | 15:40 |
| RoyK | if you open a browser and type "www.xkcd.com", www is the hostname / A record | 15:40 |
| RoyK | haxxpop: you should read up a little about how DNS works | 15:41 |
| haxxpop | RoyK: Should networking be read from the low layer to the high layer? | 15:45 |
| haxxpop | I'm trying to read from the Physical Layer | 15:45 |
| patdk-lap_ | all depends what the goal is | 15:46 |
| patdk-lap_ | normally knowing layer 2 and up is useful | 15:46 |
| patdk-lap_ | layer 1 is normally only if you physically are building it | 15:46 |
| RoyK | in most circumstances, knowing the details of layer 1 doesn't help much ;) | 15:46 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap_: L1 isn't really *physical*, it's the signalling etc, not the hardware | 15:47 |
| patdk-lap_ | ya, isn't signally, or electrical/optical | 15:47 |
| patdk-lap_ | the hardware does play into it, either fiber/copper/longreach/... | 15:48 |
| RoyK | but layers 2,3,4 are once that a techie should know | 15:48 |
| RoyK | s/once/ones/ | 15:48 |
| haxxpop | does layer 1 mean Physical and Data Link Layer ? | 15:48 |
| RoyK | haxxpop: L1 is signalling, L2 is data link | 15:49 |
| patdk-lap_ | normally, layer1 is elecrtical, but siganlling is a better term | 15:49 |
| RoyK | haxxpop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_model | 15:49 |
| patdk-lap_ | l2 would be mac, ip, ... | 15:49 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap_: IP is in L3 | 15:49 |
| patdk-lap_ | hmm, ya | 15:49 |
| RoyK | TCP port number, for instance, in L4 | 15:49 |
| haxxpop | RoyK: I think you might be talking abount TCP/IP | 15:49 |
| RoyK | haxxpop: TCP/IP maps neatly into the OSI model | 15:50 |
| patdk-lap_ | tcp does, other ones don't | 15:50 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap_: *generally* speakig (since I guess haxxpop is a newbie, and too much detail will be confusing), it maps ok | 15:50 |
| patdk-lap_ | hmm, maybe I'm thinking too much ipv6 these days | 15:51 |
| RoyK | mhm - soon out of IPs http://xkcd.com/865/ | 15:51 |
| patdk-lap_ | normally, in simple terms | 15:51 |
| patdk-lap_ | l1 = electrical | 15:52 |
| patdk-lap_ | l2 = network | 15:52 |
| patdk-lap_ | l3 = routing | 15:52 |
| patdk-lap_ | l4 = connection | 15:52 |
| patdk-lap_ | for a tcp/ip stack | 15:52 |
| RoyK | no, l2 is data link, not network, but I guess that depends on the definitions ;) | 15:52 |
| RoyK | l3 is network, including routing | 15:52 |
| RoyK | l4 is transport | 15:52 |
| RoyK | l5 is session, aka connection | 15:53 |
| patdk-lap_ | like I said, in *simple* terms :) | 15:53 |
| RoyK | simplifying doesn't mean lying ;) | 15:53 |
| * RoyK thinks 30˚C is a bit over the top in May, in Norway, where we usually start undressing before it's hit 15˚C | 15:54 | |
| patdk-lap_ | odd, irc is still working, but everything else is dead | 15:54 |
| RoyK | :) | 15:54 |
| patdk-lap_ | have my firewall halfway in a precise upgrade | 15:55 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap_: not precise enough? ;) | 15:55 |
| patdk-lap_ | I think it screwed my iptables, attempting to *help* | 15:55 |
| vrturbo | MOst of the time I deal with layer 1 i guess is flashing firmware onto mezz roms ha ha | 15:55 |
| patdk-lap_ | likely when upgrade is finished, it will be good again | 15:56 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap_: sure - mohaha :D | 15:56 |
| * RoyK have seen grub messup before | 15:56 | |
| haxxpop | do you know how much time will it take after my configuration? | 15:57 |
| patdk-lap_ | oh, it does, on every single upgrade I have done :) | 15:57 |
| patdk-lap_ | easy to fix though | 15:57 |
| RoyK | haxxpop: ? | 15:58 |
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| haxxpop | how long will the DNS be updated? | 15:59 |
| patdk-lap_ | did you just change your dns servers? | 16:00 |
| haxxpop | yes | 16:00 |
| patdk-lap_ | anywhere from now, till 2days | 16:00 |
| patdk-lap_ | depending on caching | 16:01 |
| haxxpop | I hope that my configuration is not wrong. | 16:03 |
| patdk-lap_ | what configuration? | 16:05 |
| patdk-lap_ | test it manually? | 16:05 |
| RoyK | haxxpop: dns updates are immediate if tested locally, what takes time, is the caching in the network, normally maximum TTL | 16:08 |
| haxxpop | patdk-lap_: DNS config | 16:10 |
| patdk-lap_ | yes, but what is a dns config? | 16:14 |
| patdk-lap_ | the configuration of your dns program? | 16:14 |
| patdk-lap_ | I just don't get what you mean | 16:14 |
| patdk-lap_ | testing your dns records are easy, use dig | 16:15 |
| haxxpop | patdk-lap_: in Bind, /etc/bind/named.conf.local and others | 16:22 |
| drecute | please I need help with this: http://markmail.org/message/6y4j7f7u6bvvve5f | 16:23 |
| haxxpop | Oh !! Thank to all of you. My server deployed. | 16:27 |
| patdk-lap | hmm | 17:35 |
| patdk-lap | well precise really screwed that that computer good :( | 17:35 |
| patdk-lap | e1000 driver looks very unstable on it | 17:35 |
| RoyK | e1000 driver? | 17:40 |
| RoyK | I thought that had stablilised years ago | 17:40 |
| streulma | RoyK: dns is working fine now | 17:43 |
| streulma | I must wait an hour before the slave has the new record | 17:44 |
| patdk-lap | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754589 | 17:52 |
| uvirtbot | patdk-lap: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 17:52 |
| patdk-lap | that is the exact issue I'm having with my e1000 on precise | 17:52 |
| patdk-lap | both vlan and tx checksum | 17:53 |
| streulma | hello | 20:03 |
| streulma | I've changed the hostname | 20:03 |
| streulma | in mail.log there is the old hostname | 20:03 |
| streulma | server is restarted | 20:03 |
| streulma | when I mail to postmaster@server | 20:03 |
| streulma | ok changed in /etc/mailname | 20:07 |
| LordOfTime | is it possible to edit already-existing SSH keys to have a different comment line (for example, if the current comment line is "Random SSH Key 1", can I rename it to "Nonrandom SSH Key 1" without regenerating the key) | 20:50 |
| benmunat | trying to upgrade my remote server from 10.04 to 12.04 and it failed; trying to continue the upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade but I get a lot of dependency errors: do-release-upgrade | 20:51 |
| benmunat | oops, meant: https://gist.github.com/fbd06971320fc4b9cb2e | 20:51 |
| patdk-lap | LordOfTime, the comment isn't part of the key, just edit it | 20:51 |
| LordOfTime | sweet, thanks | 20:53 |
| benmunat | ah, just had to remove a file from /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/ it appears | 20:54 |
| benmunat | ok, now stuck at: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /boot/grub/locale. | 21:11 |
| benmunat | i don't have a /boot/grub/locale directory | 21:12 |
| master | Hi, what speed of file transfer should i expect from a samba on the follwoing config: SATA2 hdd on 2 GHz via gigabit network? | 21:27 |
| master | if a homesetup | 21:27 |
| master | 1 | 21:29 |
| qman__ | master, too many factors to give you a decently accurate number, but 50MB/s is not unreasonable | 21:32 |
| qman__ | smb peaks around 100MB/s from SSD and sata 3 | 21:33 |
| qman__ | you can get 80MB/s with some decent controllers and a big raid | 21:33 |
| patdk-lap | qman, that makes no sense | 21:33 |
| qman__ | anecdotal numbers | 21:33 |
| patdk-lap | I get 90MB/sec over gigabit using smb and a single rotating disk on sata1 | 21:34 |
| master | so my setup is totaly horrible, i get 12 mb/s | 21:34 |
| qman__ | yes | 21:34 |
| patdk-lap | but ya, the limits are the disk, the interface, how the nic is connected on each computer, and cpu hz | 21:34 |
| qman__ | when I say 50MB/s, that's budget stuff | 21:35 |
| qman__ | the low end | 21:35 |
| patdk-lap | ya, most nic's will be limited to 30-50MB/sec | 21:35 |
| qman__ | it should be between that and 100MB/s | 21:35 |
| master | how to start diagnosing the problem | 21:35 |
| patdk-lap | master, test with iperf | 21:35 |
| qman__ | and test your disk speed | 21:35 |
| patdk-lap | make sure your network is fast and configure correctly | 21:35 |
| patdk-lap | plus, smb these days use encryption, so that will slow it down some too | 21:36 |
| master | patdk-lap: im setting a homeserver for filesharing, dhcp (not on at the moment), backup via bacula and so on | 21:36 |
| patdk-lap | what motherboard? | 21:37 |
| master | the metal is dc530 ultra slim, with 2ghz pentium 4, 2gb ram, at preset with the integrated NIC. Traffic is going via a TPlink 1043nd router | 21:38 |
| patdk-lap | heh? | 21:38 |
| master | patdk-lap: HP DC530 ultra slim oem machine | 21:38 |
| patdk-lap | no pcie? | 21:39 |
| patdk-lap | and no onboard gigabit nic | 21:39 |
| patdk-lap | so ya, your going get a max speed of 50MB/sec | 21:39 |
| patdk-lap | cause your sharing the disk access with the nic access | 21:39 |
| patdk-lap | and pci only has 100MB/sec to share | 21:39 |
| kalkin | hi | 21:39 |
| patdk-lap | so 50MB/sec to disk, and 50MB/sec to nic, and you maxed out the pci bus | 21:39 |
| kalkin | i have a really strange problem | 21:39 |
| master | the integrated NIC is gigabit | 21:40 |
| patdk-lap | hmm, odd quick google said 10/100 | 21:40 |
| master | or maybe i'm an idiot | 21:40 |
| patdk-lap | it's still probably shared on the same pci | 21:40 |
| patdk-lap | no, I see some that have gigabit, maybe they made several models like that, hp is annoying like that | 21:40 |
| patdk-lap | changing specs but not model numbers | 21:41 |
| kalkin | i have a really strange problem. every day at 2300 mysql have lots of writes (i see that in iotop) and i can't explain why. it's not because of my software, because it doesn't do more writes/updates then normal at this time | 21:41 |
| master | anyway, i'll test on the other NIC which is for sure gigabit on PCI | 21:41 |
| kalkin | my whole software stack slows down at 2300 and i can't figure out why | 21:41 |
| kalkin | i'm using ubuntu 11.04 | 21:41 |
| patdk-lap | PCI won't help you at all | 21:41 |
| patdk-lap | you need pcie | 21:41 |
| patdk-lap | or you will never got >50MB/sec | 21:41 |
| master | patdk-lap: yes, but if I can get around 30-40 MB/s it will be suitable as file server for my current needs | 21:42 |
| patdk-lap | basically, you need a more recent computer if you want to get increased speeds | 21:42 |
| patdk-lap | ya, you should get 40-50MB/sec | 21:43 |
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| patdk-lap | I would go back to iperf and test | 21:43 |
| patdk-lap | harddrive testing is also good | 21:43 |
| master | 12 MB is totaly unacceptable, I was able to get this from the 1043nd router with external HDD hooken on the USB port | 21:44 |
| master | hooked* | 21:44 |
| benmunat | managed to fix all the apt upgrade issues and rebooted (luckily with a web kvm) and grub is not finding a kernel; any suggestions? | 21:45 |
| benmunat | it's grub 1.9 and I'm at a grub shell prompt | 21:46 |
| master | lspci | grep Ethernet | 21:48 |
| master | oops | 21:49 |
| master | patdk-lap: here's the problem : NIC is gigabit however it's on 100base according to mii-tool | 21:53 |
| axisys | how do I make sure a file's mode is 644 all the time? I dont think incron do that | 23:06 |
| axisys | an app keep changing the mode to 600 from time to time and they have no option to keep it 644.. | 23:06 |
| axisys | cron running every 5 mins (*/5) but sometimes my monitor tool fails to read those 5 mins logs because the app log file was 600 | 23:07 |
| === imbrando1 is now known as imbrandon | ||
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