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bobweaverArghhh so my pvr/dvr card cam in th mail today . Ane it is the Wrong one.01:21
bobweavercame *01:21
tgm4883bobweaver, which one is it?01:28
bobweaverI am not sure some lortax or something like that01:30
bobweaverI ordered a the one that is on the myth tv section01:31
bobweaversorry mythubuntu tutorial section01:31
bobweaverthis is my 1st card so plz bare with me here01:31
tgm4883hmm01:32
tgm4883never heard of it01:32
bobweaverall I know is that I am not going to take it out of its package I want to get my money back I saved up for a month to by that 80 card01:37
bobweaver80 dollor *01:38
tgm4883bobweaver, what packages do you have installed in the image?01:44
tgm4883I'm taking a look at how we do the seeding for mythbuntu01:44
bobweaveryou want a dpkg-query ?01:46
tgm4883yea that would be great01:46
bobweaverI just installed ubuntu-artwork01:46
bobweaversure hang on01:47
bobweaverpaste.ubuntu.com/1000745401:56
bobweaverwoops01:56
bobweaverpaste.ubuntu.com/100745401:56
tgm4883bobweaver, thanks01:57
bobweaverafter I get the indicators up and running I want to work on rm xbmc01:57
bobweaverI will give package list of last build also01:57
tgm4883removing xbmc should be rather easy, but I think we need a DB first01:57
tgm4883and we need unity to look in the right place for metadata01:58
bobweaveroh I have set up db on mine not the last list but mine on this computer01:58
bobweaversqllight01:59
bobweaverbut it is not a good idea for the masses it was just a test01:59
bobweavermythbuntu uses mysql for db ?02:00
tgm4883yep02:00
tgm4883although there is talks of mythtv moving to mysql embedded02:00
bobweaverI just had a great idea02:01
bobweaverok02:01
bobweaverso if me make meta packages that are sql scripts right02:01
bobweaverthat fill tables with whatever02:01
bobweaverthat can be stored on the ubuntu servers02:01
bobweaverthen people can apt-get install thumbnail-movies info-movies02:02
tgm4883what is going to be in those?02:02
bobweaverso there will just be sql dumps that we could use to make the scripts02:02
bobweaverthey would be fake packages02:03
bobweaverlike02:03
tgm4883right02:03
bobweavermysql-server02:03
bobweavermeta packages02:03
tgm4883but what is going to be in the SQL dumps that we need to have separate packages for?02:03
bobweaverthe scripts02:03
bobweaverthat will dump to the end users db02:03
tgm4883ok, but what are the scripts inserting into the db?02:04
bobweaverall sorts of things02:04
bobweavermovie info02:04
bobweaveractors02:04
bobweaverso on02:04
tgm4883but02:04
bobweavercall too local sites and scrape guides ect02:04
tgm4883why would you want to do it that way instead of getting it from a central location like tmdb.org?02:05
bobweaverwe could use that as a central place02:05
bobweaverit is just scripts sql scripts that is it02:05
bobweaverfor some02:05
bobweaverbut not like02:05
tgm4883bobweaver, are you saying to ship movie info in the metapackages?02:06
bobweaveryes02:06
bobweaverjust info how to connect to other sites02:06
bobweaverto grab and tie to api02:06
tgm4883i'm confused02:06
tgm4883you want to ship movie info in the packages AND scripts to download info from a website?02:07
bobweaverit is just a sql script that is it for the 1st idea02:07
bobweaverno icons in that02:07
bobweaverbut02:07
bobweaverother packages could be icon packs that call to  sites in postinst to wget stuff02:08
bobweaverbut that is ugly ^^02:08
tgm4883why wouldn't we just grab metadata for stuff the user actually has?02:08
bobweavernot sure what you mean ?02:09
tgm4883why do you want to download metadata for ALL movies to ALL users machines?02:09
tgm4883why wouldn't you just download info for videos that are in their library?02:09
tgm4883IMO, a much cleaner solution is to run the metadata grabber script when something is added to the library02:10
bobweaverwhere does script run and what if there is no internet ?02:11
tgm4883the script would run on the machine that has the database or the machine that added it to the library. Either one should be fine as long as the metadata gets added to the DB02:12
tgm4883I think it's safe to make the assumption that if they have no internet, they don't get metadata02:12
bobweaverI see you points and they are good02:13
bobweavertgm4883,  how do you think that mythubuntu can tie into Ubuntu TV and do you think that it is a good option ?02:14
bobweaverwhat can we take from mythbuntu ?02:14
tgm4883I think mythbuntu would tie in as any other content source02:15
tgm4883I think with ubuntu tv, you have the ability to add sources, one of which is mythbuntu02:15
tgm4883bobweaver, give me a sec and I'll get something together for tmdb02:17
bobweavercool02:17
bobweaverhere is dump of laste iso filesystem.manifesto02:18
bobweaverhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1007471/02:18
tgm4883pretty much everything is already there, what we'll need is a way to pass it a video, and then get the proper info to parse02:18
bobweaverrun a loop on a while read in bash script  ?02:29
bobweaverstick it in cron02:29
tgm4883nah, better to use inotify02:30
tgm4883bobweaver, so with the scripts right now, I just did a search for "A New Hope" and was returned XML  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007482/02:33
tgm4883and that is pretty easy to get data from to place into the database02:34
tgm4883mhall119, has there been any discussion/work on the database portion?02:38
bobweavertgm4883,  I am installing just about everything now from ubuntu-desktop with a fine filter at the moment. I will send you a dpkg-query -l again once i am done may hour or so02:54
tgm4883bobweaver, thanks. Anyway you can send me just the depends&recommends?02:54
bobweavernot sure what you mean ?02:54
bobweaverlike from the control file ?02:55
bobweaverof all packages ?02:55
tgm4883no02:55
bobweavergood :)02:55
tgm4883so how exactly are you  creating this image?02:55
bobweaverthe image is just a flowchart image02:55
bobweavertoo get a good idea where to go next02:55
bobweaverit is remastersys02:55
tgm4883ok, so you are taking a ubuntu-desktop image and removing what you don't want?02:56
bobweaverbut I know how to use debian live and am goiung to do that once I get all the testing done as popey  said that it was a good idea I am also looking02:56
bobweaverNo ^^02:56
bobweaverI stared with Ubuntu-core02:57
tgm4883ok, what did you install on top of that then?02:57
bobweaverso I could see what the bare bare min packages that could be installed02:57
bobweaverI have logs02:57
bobweaveralot02:57
tgm4883those logs might be more helpful than the full package list02:57
bobweaver^^ I installed alot packages but I have charts02:57
bobweaverI do not what to release early thou02:58
bobweaverI have a og image that has a bare min ubuntu tv on it02:58
bobweaverjust startes unity-2d from the get go02:58
bobweaverthat and metacity02:59
bobweaveronce I am done with all the dependency I will look at the differeces and start to build a good image in a chroot envo02:59
bobweaverbut not unity all the kinks are worked out02:59
bobweaverright now still looks like I am staring at a debian box :)03:00
bobweaverBut at the rate that things are going we might be able to have a great ppa in 6 months or so maybe sooner03:02
bobweaverjust a meatapackage03:03
bobweavermeata lol   meta*03:03
tgm4883I'd like to see a PPA sooner03:03
bobweaverthere are 3 major things that I asee in the way03:04
bobweaverone making a epg lens and getting rid of the xml stuff that is there03:04
bobweavertwo getting rid of unity-2d all together porting to 3d and just running "small QT/2-d shell03:05
tgm4883#1 isn't required for the PPA03:06
tgm4883#2 is, which is what is being worked on now03:06
bobweaverthere tie in the awesome and powerful gnome panel and unity panel  to the indicators make a system call that is03:06
bobweaverthere lol03:06
bobweaverthree *03:06
bobweaverthat is the super major things that I see that need to happen03:07
tgm4883I only think #2 is required03:07
tgm4883to get a PPA going03:07
bobweaverohh and  a auto player for dvds03:07
tgm4883IMO that is minor03:07
tgm4883surely not required for a PPA03:08
bobweaver3 is surly important03:08
bobweaverbeing able to log out and check network and also there is better C++ for contol of volume03:09
tgm4883#3 is a blocker to getting a PPA with Ubuntu TV code?03:09
bobweaverthere are fix me tags that I see all over the place03:09
tgm4883fixme tags aren't necessarily a blocker03:09
bobweaveryea because it is in the  QT and C++ it is needed it is fake with out it03:10
bobweaverjust the same way that the Simplelauncher.qml reads the lens  the  Indicator's should read gnome-panel03:10
tgm4883so it's completely untestable without #3?03:11
bobweaverOh it is teastable atm03:11
bobweaverbut it is not for the masses03:11
tgm4883UbuntuTV in a PPA isn't for the masses03:11
tgm4883at any point03:11
bobweaverthe code that I pushed is testable03:11
tgm4883did you just push it to a branch, or to a PPA?03:12
bobweaverbranch03:13
bobweaverI could build03:13
bobweaverbut best to wait a min or two03:13
bobweaversunday is the day I am hoping to be done but network manager and gnome panel is giving me a hard time and I am not the best QT programmer03:14
bobweaverLike there are alot examples but they are for cellphones and what not03:14
bobweaverI will get it03:15
bobweavertgm4883,  if you or anyone has idea's I set this up for that https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntutv/launcher-indicators/+merge/10731203:16
bobweaverso we can track what I am doing better get more diffs ect03:17
bobweaverI also think that tieing in Ubuntu One is essential I dont even know where to begin with that.03:24
bobweaverI almost like the video lens that I have for 12.04 TV more then the one that is in the branch I can search online with that one it is alot nicer could tie the other one in maybe not sure03:26
bobweaverbut then again the youtube scope is awesome in aeatheros or what ever it is called but the dang thing is is that you can def not have to lens called video03:27
bobweaverso I tried my hardest to convert code but failed03:28
bobweaverhttps://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills  these two branches lp:~josephjamesmills/+junk/[unity-lens, youtube scope]03:29
bobweaverYESS !!! I just repaired the Youtube lens04:02
bobweaverman that feels good04:02
bobweaverscope is freezing up thou04:02
bobweaveryeah I might want to name /usr/share/glib2.0/   so /usr/share/glib-2.0/   wOOps04:16
bobweavermhall119,  are you around can I bug you about lens plz09:50
bobweaverI keep getting error GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_call_internal: assertion `object_path != NULL && g_varient_is_object_path (object_path)' failed09:55
bobweaverI will also ask on ubuntu-unity09:56
mhall119sorry bobweaver, once you leave the python realm I'm not much help15:00
bobweaverthanks for getting back to me thou :)15:12
bobweaverI ripped the package open and performed open heart on it15:12
bobweaverafter didling with it for 14 or so hours I think I just got it15:13
bobweaverdan calle gave me a hand nice person15:13
bobweaverscatch that ^^ (well the part about it working )15:17

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