[01:21] <bobweaver> Arghhh so my pvr/dvr card cam in th mail today . Ane it is the Wrong one.
[01:21] <bobweaver> came *
[01:28] <tgm4883> bobweaver, which one is it?
[01:30] <bobweaver> I am not sure some lortax or something like that
[01:31] <bobweaver> I ordered a the one that is on the myth tv section
[01:31] <bobweaver> sorry mythubuntu tutorial section
[01:31] <bobweaver> this is my 1st card so plz bare with me here
[01:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:32] <tgm4883> never heard of it
[01:37] <bobweaver> all I know is that I am not going to take it out of its package I want to get my money back I saved up for a month to by that 80 card
[01:38] <bobweaver> 80 dollor *
[01:44] <tgm4883> bobweaver, what packages do you have installed in the image?
[01:44] <tgm4883> I'm taking a look at how we do the seeding for mythbuntu
[01:46] <bobweaver> you want a dpkg-query ?
[01:46] <tgm4883> yea that would be great
[01:46] <bobweaver> I just installed ubuntu-artwork
[01:47] <bobweaver> sure hang on
[01:56] <bobweaver> paste.ubuntu.com/10007454
[01:56] <bobweaver> woops
[01:56] <bobweaver> paste.ubuntu.com/1007454
[01:57] <tgm4883> bobweaver, thanks
[01:57] <bobweaver> after I get the indicators up and running I want to work on rm xbmc
[01:57] <bobweaver> I will give package list of last build also
[01:57] <tgm4883> removing xbmc should be rather easy, but I think we need a DB first
[01:58] <tgm4883> and we need unity to look in the right place for metadata
[01:58] <bobweaver> oh I have set up db on mine not the last list but mine on this computer
[01:59] <bobweaver> sqllight
[01:59] <bobweaver> but it is not a good idea for the masses it was just a test
[02:00] <bobweaver> mythbuntu uses mysql for db ?
[02:00] <tgm4883> yep
[02:00] <tgm4883> although there is talks of mythtv moving to mysql embedded
[02:01] <bobweaver> I just had a great idea
[02:01] <bobweaver> ok
[02:01] <bobweaver> so if me make meta packages that are sql scripts right
[02:01] <bobweaver> that fill tables with whatever
[02:01] <bobweaver> that can be stored on the ubuntu servers
[02:02] <bobweaver> then people can apt-get install thumbnail-movies info-movies
[02:02] <tgm4883> what is going to be in those?
[02:02] <bobweaver> so there will just be sql dumps that we could use to make the scripts
[02:03] <bobweaver> they would be fake packages
[02:03] <bobweaver> like
[02:03] <tgm4883> right
[02:03] <bobweaver> mysql-server
[02:03] <bobweaver> meta packages
[02:03] <tgm4883> but what is going to be in the SQL dumps that we need to have separate packages for?
[02:03] <bobweaver> the scripts
[02:03] <bobweaver> that will dump to the end users db
[02:04] <tgm4883> ok, but what are the scripts inserting into the db?
[02:04] <bobweaver> all sorts of things
[02:04] <bobweaver> movie info
[02:04] <bobweaver> actors
[02:04] <bobweaver> so on
[02:04] <tgm4883> but
[02:04] <bobweaver> call too local sites and scrape guides ect
[02:05] <tgm4883> why would you want to do it that way instead of getting it from a central location like tmdb.org?
[02:05] <bobweaver> we could use that as a central place
[02:05] <bobweaver> it is just scripts sql scripts that is it
[02:05] <bobweaver> for some
[02:05] <bobweaver> but not like
[02:06] <tgm4883> bobweaver, are you saying to ship movie info in the metapackages?
[02:06] <bobweaver> yes
[02:06] <bobweaver> just info how to connect to other sites
[02:06] <bobweaver> to grab and tie to api
[02:06] <tgm4883> i'm confused
[02:07] <tgm4883> you want to ship movie info in the packages AND scripts to download info from a website?
[02:07] <bobweaver> it is just a sql script that is it for the 1st idea
[02:07] <bobweaver> no icons in that
[02:07] <bobweaver> but
[02:08] <bobweaver> other packages could be icon packs that call to  sites in postinst to wget stuff
[02:08] <bobweaver> but that is ugly ^^
[02:08] <tgm4883> why wouldn't we just grab metadata for stuff the user actually has?
[02:09] <bobweaver> not sure what you mean ?
[02:09] <tgm4883> why do you want to download metadata for ALL movies to ALL users machines?
[02:09] <tgm4883> why wouldn't you just download info for videos that are in their library?
[02:10] <tgm4883> IMO, a much cleaner solution is to run the metadata grabber script when something is added to the library
[02:11] <bobweaver> where does script run and what if there is no internet ?
[02:12] <tgm4883> the script would run on the machine that has the database or the machine that added it to the library. Either one should be fine as long as the metadata gets added to the DB
[02:12] <tgm4883> I think it's safe to make the assumption that if they have no internet, they don't get metadata
[02:13] <bobweaver> I see you points and they are good
[02:14] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  how do you think that mythubuntu can tie into Ubuntu TV and do you think that it is a good option ?
[02:14] <bobweaver> what can we take from mythbuntu ?
[02:15] <tgm4883> I think mythbuntu would tie in as any other content source
[02:15] <tgm4883> I think with ubuntu tv, you have the ability to add sources, one of which is mythbuntu
[02:17] <tgm4883> bobweaver, give me a sec and I'll get something together for tmdb
[02:17] <bobweaver> cool
[02:18] <bobweaver> here is dump of laste iso filesystem.manifesto
[02:18] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007471/
[02:18] <tgm4883> pretty much everything is already there, what we'll need is a way to pass it a video, and then get the proper info to parse
[02:29] <bobweaver> run a loop on a while read in bash script  ?
[02:29] <bobweaver> stick it in cron
[02:30] <tgm4883> nah, better to use inotify
[02:33] <tgm4883> bobweaver, so with the scripts right now, I just did a search for "A New Hope" and was returned XML  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007482/
[02:34] <tgm4883> and that is pretty easy to get data from to place into the database
[02:38] <tgm4883> mhall119, has there been any discussion/work on the database portion?
[02:54] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  I am installing just about everything now from ubuntu-desktop with a fine filter at the moment. I will send you a dpkg-query -l again once i am done may hour or so
[02:54] <tgm4883> bobweaver, thanks. Anyway you can send me just the depends&recommends?
[02:54] <bobweaver> not sure what you mean ?
[02:55] <bobweaver> like from the control file ?
[02:55] <bobweaver> of all packages ?
[02:55] <tgm4883> no
[02:55] <bobweaver> good :)
[02:55] <tgm4883> so how exactly are you  creating this image?
[02:55] <bobweaver> the image is just a flowchart image
[02:55] <bobweaver> too get a good idea where to go next
[02:55] <bobweaver> it is remastersys
[02:56] <tgm4883> ok, so you are taking a ubuntu-desktop image and removing what you don't want?
[02:56] <bobweaver> but I know how to use debian live and am goiung to do that once I get all the testing done as popey  said that it was a good idea I am also looking
[02:56] <bobweaver> No ^^
[02:57] <bobweaver> I stared with Ubuntu-core
[02:57] <tgm4883> ok, what did you install on top of that then?
[02:57] <bobweaver> so I could see what the bare bare min packages that could be installed
[02:57] <bobweaver> I have logs
[02:57] <bobweaver> alot
[02:57] <tgm4883> those logs might be more helpful than the full package list
[02:57] <bobweaver> ^^ I installed alot packages but I have charts
[02:58] <bobweaver> I do not what to release early thou
[02:58] <bobweaver> I have a og image that has a bare min ubuntu tv on it
[02:58] <bobweaver> just startes unity-2d from the get go
[02:59] <bobweaver> that and metacity
[02:59] <bobweaver> once I am done with all the dependency I will look at the differeces and start to build a good image in a chroot envo
[02:59] <bobweaver> but not unity all the kinks are worked out
[03:00] <bobweaver> right now still looks like I am staring at a debian box :)
[03:02] <bobweaver> But at the rate that things are going we might be able to have a great ppa in 6 months or so maybe sooner
[03:03] <bobweaver> just a meatapackage
[03:03] <bobweaver> meata lol   meta*
[03:03] <tgm4883> I'd like to see a PPA sooner
[03:04] <bobweaver> there are 3 major things that I asee in the way
[03:04] <bobweaver> one making a epg lens and getting rid of the xml stuff that is there
[03:05] <bobweaver> two getting rid of unity-2d all together porting to 3d and just running "small QT/2-d shell
[03:06] <tgm4883> #1 isn't required for the PPA
[03:06] <tgm4883> #2 is, which is what is being worked on now
[03:06] <bobweaver> there tie in the awesome and powerful gnome panel and unity panel  to the indicators make a system call that is
[03:06] <bobweaver> there lol
[03:06] <bobweaver> three *
[03:07] <bobweaver> that is the super major things that I see that need to happen
[03:07] <tgm4883> I only think #2 is required
[03:07] <tgm4883> to get a PPA going
[03:07] <bobweaver> ohh and  a auto player for dvds
[03:07] <tgm4883> IMO that is minor
[03:08] <tgm4883> surely not required for a PPA
[03:08] <bobweaver> 3 is surly important
[03:09] <bobweaver> being able to log out and check network and also there is better C++ for contol of volume
[03:09] <tgm4883> #3 is a blocker to getting a PPA with Ubuntu TV code?
[03:09] <bobweaver> there are fix me tags that I see all over the place
[03:09] <tgm4883> fixme tags aren't necessarily a blocker
[03:10] <bobweaver> yea because it is in the  QT and C++ it is needed it is fake with out it
[03:10] <bobweaver> just the same way that the Simplelauncher.qml reads the lens  the  Indicator's should read gnome-panel
[03:11] <tgm4883> so it's completely untestable without #3?
[03:11] <bobweaver> Oh it is teastable atm
[03:11] <bobweaver> but it is not for the masses
[03:11] <tgm4883> UbuntuTV in a PPA isn't for the masses
[03:11] <tgm4883> at any point
[03:11] <bobweaver> the code that I pushed is testable
[03:12] <tgm4883> did you just push it to a branch, or to a PPA?
[03:13] <bobweaver> branch
[03:13] <bobweaver> I could build
[03:13] <bobweaver> but best to wait a min or two
[03:14] <bobweaver> sunday is the day I am hoping to be done but network manager and gnome panel is giving me a hard time and I am not the best QT programmer
[03:14] <bobweaver> Like there are alot examples but they are for cellphones and what not
[03:15] <bobweaver> I will get it
[03:16] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  if you or anyone has idea's I set this up for that https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntutv/launcher-indicators/+merge/107312
[03:17] <bobweaver> so we can track what I am doing better get more diffs ect
[03:24] <bobweaver> I also think that tieing in Ubuntu One is essential I dont even know where to begin with that.
[03:26] <bobweaver> I almost like the video lens that I have for 12.04 TV more then the one that is in the branch I can search online with that one it is alot nicer could tie the other one in maybe not sure
[03:27] <bobweaver> but then again the youtube scope is awesome in aeatheros or what ever it is called but the dang thing is is that you can def not have to lens called video
[03:28] <bobweaver> so I tried my hardest to convert code but failed
[03:29] <bobweaver> https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills  these two branches lp:~josephjamesmills/+junk/[unity-lens, youtube scope]
[04:02] <bobweaver> YESS !!! I just repaired the Youtube lens
[04:02] <bobweaver> man that feels good
[04:02] <bobweaver> scope is freezing up thou
[04:16] <bobweaver> yeah I might want to name /usr/share/glib2.0/   so /usr/share/glib-2.0/   wOOps
[09:50] <bobweaver> mhall119,  are you around can I bug you about lens plz
[09:55] <bobweaver> I keep getting error GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_call_internal: assertion `object_path != NULL && g_varient_is_object_path (object_path)' failed
[09:56] <bobweaver> I will also ask on ubuntu-unity
[15:00] <mhall119> sorry bobweaver, once you leave the python realm I'm not much help
[15:12] <bobweaver> thanks for getting back to me thou :)
[15:12] <bobweaver> I ripped the package open and performed open heart on it
[15:13] <bobweaver> after didling with it for 14 or so hours I think I just got it
[15:13] <bobweaver> dan calle gave me a hand nice person
[15:17] <bobweaver> scatch that ^^ (well the part about it working )