| === diddledan is now known as zz_diddledan | ||
| AlanBell | morning al | 06:44 |
|---|---|---|
| awilkins | NHS Hack Day! | 06:59 |
| Azelphur | o.O? | 07:01 |
| awilkins | Not cracking, hacking | 07:09 |
| Azelphur | still wat | 07:10 |
| awilkins | Train arrives, must gather self | 07:10 |
| DJones | i was just about to tell my wife not to switch her laptop on so she didn't get hacked | 07:11 |
| DJones | :) | 07:11 |
| DJones | anyway who's idea is 18C at 8am on a weekend, too warm to sleep, too sleepy too get up | 07:13 |
| DJones | This is the life, lying in bed, updating a server using a tablet | 07:38 |
| Mez_ | So, I receive an email from paypal | 08:01 |
| Mez_ | from a known phishing address | 08:01 |
| Mez_ | (server) | 08:02 |
| Mez_ | but it's DKIM signed | 08:02 |
| Mez_ | and domainkey signed | 08:02 |
| Mez_ | correctly as paypal. | 08:02 |
| Azelphur | o.O | 08:02 |
| Mez_ | I've tried sending it to spoof@ who say it's a legit email | 08:02 |
| Mez_ | But I don't believe them | 08:03 |
| Azelphur | I'm curious, you can forward it to me if you want xD | 08:03 |
| Mez_ | (Email telling me that my account was in arrears... but it wasnt.. | 08:03 |
| Mez_ | !paste | 08:06 |
| lubotu3 | Pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 08:06 |
| czajkowski | morning | 08:06 |
| Mez_ | hmm | 08:06 |
| Mez_ | thats what I thought | 08:06 |
| Mez_ | but its not working | 08:06 |
| Mez_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007759/ | 08:07 |
| christel | i didnt think your PP account could go in arrears | 08:07 |
| Mez_ | I think it can if someone charges back and you've spent the money | 08:07 |
| Mez_ | or if you lose a dispute or something? | 08:08 |
| Mez_ | but I'm rather concerned by that email | 08:08 |
| Mez_ | even if it doesnt go to a fishing site... it's not legit | 08:08 |
| MartijnVdS | won't they try to get it back to 0 by charging your cc? | 08:09 |
| Mez_ | looks to be a test | 08:09 |
| Mez_ | but concerned that domainkey and DKIM is there | 08:09 |
| Mez_ | and correct, AFAICS | 08:09 |
| Azelphur | Mez_: yea, it's definitely a phish xD | 08:09 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: don't log in through the mail | 08:09 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: type "paypal.com" into your browser and check it like that | 08:09 |
| Mez_ | MartijnVdS, I wouldnt XD | 08:09 |
| christel | MartijnVdS: yeah thats what i would have assumed, that they just used the "funding sources" on file to balance the account | 08:10 |
| Mez_ | Azelphur, the link actually goes through to PP | 08:10 |
| MartijnVdS | it looks legit | 08:10 |
| Mez_ | MartijnVdS, even though the links dont go to paypal and it wasnt sent by paypals servers? | 08:10 |
| Azelphur | Mez_: that pastebin you gave is epicly corrupted fyi | 08:11 |
| Mez_ | Azelphur, how so ? | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: it's not, it's quoted-printable | 08:11 |
| Azelphur | "2.=09Click =E2=80=98Add Funds=E2=80=99 near the top of the page." :P | 08:11 |
| Mez_ | what MartijnVdS said | 08:11 |
| Azelphur | *shrug* | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: the "List-Unsubscribe" is fishy | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: and the reply-to | 08:12 |
| Mez_ | and the servers it was sent through | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | no wait.. that's the From: as well.. and it's @paypal.com | 08:12 |
| christel | yet it is addressed to you by name so doesnt seem super generic | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: report suspecting phish on paypal.com, and check balance there :) | 08:12 |
| Mez_ | MartijnVdS, I reported it - i just get an automated email back even though I've asked for an explanation | 08:12 |
| Mez_ | saying it's legit | 08:13 |
| Mez_ | which I don't believe | 08:13 |
| Mez_ | espescially as the servers it's sent through have been reported for a paypal phish attempt before on a major scale | 08:14 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 08:14 |
| Azelphur | and that mkt2944 site is known for phishing | 08:14 |
| MartijnVdS | isn't it just a big mailserver service provider? | 08:14 |
| Mez_ | yeah - as far as i can see | 08:15 |
| Mez_ | It's like a "mailshot" kinda email | 08:15 |
| MartijnVdS | makes sense to use the same service provider as the one you're trying to spoof ;) | 08:15 |
| Mez_ | MartijnVdS, do you think the email is legit, or not? | 08:16 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: do you have the GMail "show authenticated mails" lab hing on? | 08:16 |
| MartijnVdS | thing* | 08:17 |
| MartijnVdS | if so, does it show a yellow key next to the mail? | 08:17 |
| Mez_ | yes it does | 08:17 |
| MartijnVdS | then gmail thinks it's legit | 08:17 |
| Mez_ | as I said - the DKIM/Domainkey is legit. | 08:17 |
| Mez_ | Which is why I think it's a massive security concern | 08:17 |
| Mez_ | as the email is saying I've got a negative balance, which I dont | 08:18 |
| Mez_ | it wasnt sent through paypals servers | 08:18 |
| Mez_ | and is from a known phishing mail host | 08:18 |
| Mez_ | therefore - I'm concerned that DKIM/Domainkey has been compromised here | 08:18 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: if spoof@paypal doesn't think it's a spoof, it's their problem | 08:18 |
| MartijnVdS | Mez_: how would they know your full name though | 08:19 |
| Mez_ | MartijnVdS, because they can quite happily get that through G+ these days ? Because I've got my name all over the web ? | 08:19 |
| MartijnVdS | good pointw | 08:19 |
| * Mez_ is rather concerned/disturbed by this | 08:20 | |
| shauno | that's a really odd one. nothing looks actually wrong, just a lot of red flags | 08:34 |
| shauno | mkt2944 doesn't look particularly scammy. they're using markmonitor as their registrar. and they're freaking expensive. $40k for a one off, but you can beat them down to $10k in bulk | 08:38 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:38 |
| AlanBell | Mez_: presumably your account is non-negative? | 08:40 |
| Mez_ | AlanBell, yes. it's something like £6 positive? | 08:40 |
| shauno | The more I look, the more it looks legit to me | 08:57 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: mail sent | 08:57 |
| * MartijnVdS upgrades to Q | 09:31 | |
| kvarley | How can I find out what resolution a pdf file is? | 09:42 |
| MartijnVdS | PDFs don't have resolution. The images in them can | 09:42 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: what are you trying to do? | 09:43 |
| kvarley | Trying to dump a pdf page to a jpeg without any change in size | 09:43 |
| kvarley | It's an open source diagram but the author used a microsoft visio format so I don't think I can edit that | 09:43 |
| kvarley | My bad | 09:44 |
| kvarley | LibreOffice opened it perfectly =D | 09:44 |
| kvarley | Sorry about that xD | 09:44 |
| popey | Morning all | 10:58 |
| penguin42 | Hey Popey | 10:59 |
| Seeker` | o/ | 10:59 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings popey | 11:03 |
| bigcalm | Afternoon peeps :) | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | Goodness, is it only just afternoon? | 11:09 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings bigcalm :) | 11:09 |
| * bigcalm dislikes getting work done on a Saturday morning | 11:09 | |
| bigcalm | Got Hayley's presents wrapped though :) | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | Hey brobostigon | 11:10 |
| * bigcalm tickles popey | 11:10 | |
| penguin42 | hmm got my 1st 'we use cookies' warning | 11:19 |
| ali1234 | i got one yesterday by email | 11:20 |
| ali1234 | email! | 11:21 |
| dwatkins | I got one from Rapid Electronics. | 11:23 |
| ali1234 | yes me too :) | 11:23 |
| dwatkins | haha, and Domino's | 11:25 |
| bigcalm | Bored of coding | 11:58 |
| * bigcalm pokes popey with mc | 11:58 | |
| popey | yo | 12:01 |
| StevenR_ | Awesome. I walked two miles in wonderful leafy sunshine. I bought a printer. I walked two miles home, carrying the printer. I plugged the printer in, connected it to my precise laptop, and clicked next a few times, and now I have a lovely printer test page. | 13:42 |
| StevenR_ | from my previous dealings with printers (on any and all OSes), I expected this process to suck more. | 13:43 |
| popey | Printers are devices for causing pain. | 13:46 |
| popey | They also sometimes print stuff. | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | printers lol | 13:47 |
| Seeker` | people still print things? | 13:48 |
| Seeker` | other than circuit boards | 13:48 |
| StevenR_ | popey: yes. The good part of being a network specialist, is that if I can ping the printer, my work is done. | 13:48 |
| Azelphur | printers? | 13:48 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| czajkowski | aloha | 14:28 |
| popey | yo czajkowski | 15:01 |
| czajkowski | popey having a good wrekend ? | 16:50 |
| czajkowski | weekend even | 16:50 |
| gord | eurovision night \o/ | 17:09 |
| * Darael screams and runs away, cowering under a sofa. | 17:14 | |
| penguin42 | heck, 381MB of upgrades to Precise in the last week? | 17:21 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: you don't like it? go install Windows! ;) | 17:26 |
| SuperEngineer | ..count your MB in GB | 17:27 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Oh I'm ok with it, it's just unusual | 17:27 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: for what it's worth - I updated 4 Ubuntu systems this week in less time than one windoze sys | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | oh I've never had Windows systems at home, and haven't used any at work for a few years | 17:29 |
| dogmatic69 | Vista service pack 1 back in the day was 1.something gigs | 17:33 |
| * SuperEngineer is choosing between vallium, suicide or putting a hammer through the the tv.... anything to avoid eurovision | 17:44 | |
| popey | penguin42: yes including my very first package update to unity and bamf! :D | 17:46 |
| penguin42 | popey: How long did you sweat on it before doing the commit ? | 17:47 |
| popey | far too long! :D | 17:48 |
| popey | next week its lenses | 17:48 |
| penguin42 | :-) | 17:48 |
| popey | my team have taken over releases of unity, bamf, dee, libunity etc | 17:48 |
| popey | nice to get the gimp fix out | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | what was up with that? | 17:49 |
| popey | of course we're just packaging the fixes everyone else does, and don't do the actual fixes ourselves | 17:49 |
| popey | bamf isn't perfect | 17:49 |
| popey | especially with multi-window apps like gimp | 17:49 |
| popey | glad to see upstream have fixed that by making single window gimp ;) | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | yeh, pity that missed PP - I must give it a go | 17:50 |
| popey | yeah, guess we can get it in a backport | 17:50 |
| popey | once it hits quantal | 17:50 |
| Daviey | popey: is your team the new Didler? | 17:50 |
| * popey hugs Laney | 17:50 | |
| popey | yes | 17:50 |
| Daviey | super | 17:51 |
| ali1234 | single window gimp is not as good as it sounds | 17:52 |
| ali1234 | you might have expected MDI, but no | 17:52 |
| ali1234 | it uses tabs so you can't look at two images side by side | 17:52 |
| penguin42 | your gimp doesn't like being trapped in a single window? | 17:52 |
| popey | erk | 17:52 |
| ali1234 | it's probably the weirdest thing i've ever seen | 17:52 |
| popey | you cant open in a new window? | 17:52 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Doesn't let you tear a tab off? | 17:52 |
| ali1234 | no and no | 17:52 |
| popey | wow | 17:53 |
| popey | thats demented | 17:53 |
| popey | almost worse | 17:53 |
| ali1234 | it's like they implemented single window in the worst possible way just so they could later drop it because "nobody uses it" | 17:53 |
| Daviey | I *really* wish they'd review the name of it. | 17:54 |
| popey | fork it :D | 17:55 |
| Daviey | go fork yourself. :) | 17:55 |
| penguin42 | Daviey: Yeh, it's really difficult to google for instructions on using the mask feature | 17:55 |
| popey | best offer I've had all day | 17:55 |
| popey | zoiks | 17:55 |
| popey | just tried that | 17:55 |
| Daviey | popey: hah | 17:55 |
| Daviey | "gimp mask feature" .. first 3 hits for me are accurate :) | 17:56 |
| ali1234 | gimp masks lol | 17:59 |
| ali1234 | gimp doesn't support using a path as a mask | 18:00 |
| ali1234 | that really sucks | 18:00 |
| ali1234 | also it doesn't support adjustment layers | 18:00 |
| ali1234 | nor smart objects for that matter... they're not as useful though | 18:01 |
| ali1234 | the thing about the name is... if it had a better name, people would expect it to be actually good | 18:02 |
| Laney | my god | 19:18 |
| penguin42 | yes? | 19:19 |
| Laney | #thehump | 19:23 |
| penguin42 | oh | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | my money is on spain after they said they didn't want to win | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | i can see trolls all over europe voting for them just to try to bankrupt the country | 19:25 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's being suggested everywhere | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | of course it could have been the most amazing piece of reverse psychology | 19:25 |
| SuperEngineer | my money is on Greece | 19:27 |
| SuperEngineer | - and LLoyds - and RBS - Nothern Rock | 19:27 |
| SuperEngineer | please don't tell me we've turned into Ubuntu-Eurovsion.. please... please... please | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | Ubuntuvision? | 19:27 |
| * MartijnVdS is watching NED-BUL | 19:27 | |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: When do you sing? | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | what's a NED-BUL? | 19:27 |
| * SuperEngineer is singing now | 19:28 | |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: ball of feet | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: pre-EC "trial" football match | 19:28 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Anybody else watching Eurovision? | 19:33 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Russian grannies are on right now. | 19:33 |
| MartijnVdS | I prefer good music :P | 19:34 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: if football translates as ball of feet... I love to hear NED->UK for basketball ;) | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: nah football translates as voetbal :) | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: and basketball we don't bother to translate | 19:35 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: ooo - cutting! | 19:35 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: nah, practical reasons -- we speak English well enough | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korfball already took the proper translated name | 19:36 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Baskjetbjall. | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | MarquessDeBonBon: no Dutch != Swedish | 19:37 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: most other nations speak Enlish better than [some] English peeps I know ;) | 19:38 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | SuperEngineer: apart from Americans. | 19:39 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | English is spoken in the US as if it's their fifth language which they only use when talking to their elderly grandma at weddings and Christmas. | 19:39 |
| MartijnVdS | MarquessDeBonBon: Americans speak a horrible version of English :) | 19:40 |
| SuperEngineer | MarquessDeBonBon: that's because they think england is just a cute little American airbase | 19:40 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: they're wrong, that's Scotland | 19:41 |
| * SuperEngineer giggles | 19:41 | |
| MarquessDeBonBon | And Wales is where Pot Noodle is mined. | 19:42 |
| SuperEngineer | MarquessDeBonBon: you should see Gloucestershire.... we've got treacle mines! | 19:45 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: http://wiki.openttd.org/Climate#Toyland ? | 19:45 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: toffee quarries as well? | 19:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Cola wells? | 19:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Little known fact: Gloucestershire is pronounced "Gloostershire". | 19:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | True story. | 19:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Plastic fountains? | 19:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | I literally do not know where Gloucestershire is. | 19:46 |
| MartijnVdS | MarquessDeBonBon: it's pronounced "Here be dragons" | 19:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Is it in the north? | 19:46 |
| SuperEngineer | no | 19:46 |
| * MarquessDeBonBon opens up maps.google.com | 19:46 | |
| MartijnVdS | I tried typing it into google maps | 19:46 |
| MartijnVdS | but I mistyped it as "Gloucestershite" | 19:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Well fuck me, it's almost in Wales. | 19:47 |
| SuperEngineer | try slightly north of Bristol up the M% | 19:47 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | That's why I didn't know where it was. | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | !language | 19:47 |
| lubotu3 | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 19:47 |
| SuperEngineer | ...& we are not welsh | 19:47 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | The whole east of the UK is "here be dragons" for me. | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | MarquessDeBonBon: Welsh dragons | 19:47 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Well | 19:47 |
| SuperEngineer | MarquessDeBonBon: & the west,apparently | 19:48 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Anywhere that isn't the Home Counties, Greater London or Essex is "here be dragons" on my mental map. | 19:48 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Scotland is like...Discworld. | 19:48 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Except the turtles are alcoholic wifebeaters. | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | MarquessDeBonBon: Midlands? Yorkshire? | 19:48 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Never been there. | 19:48 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | My strategy for when I find myself outside the HCs or London: "Get to St. Pancras". | 19:49 |
| SuperEngineer | MarquessDeBonBon: are you sure that's not St. Pancreas? | 19:51 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | I call it St. Pancreas. | 19:51 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Damn...this Danish chick is hot. | 20:12 |
| daubers | Evening | 20:25 |
| Laney | turkey so far tbh | 20:29 |
| ali1234 | why do javascript developers use so many anonymous functions? | 20:33 |
| ali1234 | it makes the scoping really difficult to figure out | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | because they hate you | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | :( | 20:34 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: don't worry, there's http://i.imgur.com/oH16b.jpg | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | :C | 20:35 |
| DJones | Laney: When did C3PO get a twin and learn to sing? | 20:44 |
| Laney | for small "learn" | 20:45 |
| Laney | it's catchy :$ | 20:46 |
| Laney | i like it :( | 20:46 |
| cocoa117 | anyone here using Intel DQ67SW mobo? | 21:16 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | cocoa117: what's the issue? | 21:31 |
| * AlanBell wonders if it is too late for cake | 21:34 | |
| brobostigon | always time for cake, :) | 21:34 |
| popey | why is http://www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7343176.stm the 2nd most popular video on bbc now | 21:39 |
| * brobostigon wonders, what people would vote for, in eurovision. | 21:40 | |
| popey | i have managed to avoid every single eurovision song and programme | 21:41 |
| brobostigon | good idea. | 21:42 |
| brobostigon | i did fnd, 1, maybe two songs, that were any good. | 21:42 |
| AlanBell | it *was* time for cake. Chocolate Guinness cake. | 21:46 |
| brobostigon | sounds yummy. | 21:46 |
| penguin42 | talking of cake; this is incredible: http://io9.com/5913308/this-tim-burton-zoetrope-cake-is-way-too-nifty-to-eat | 22:29 |
| === chalced is now known as chalcedony | ||
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