[00:44] <jyo> yay, afraid.org supports AAAA but apparently nameservers don't have IPv6 connectivity. :/
[00:49] <DonkeyHotei> he.net rules
[00:55] <philipballew> bkerensa, I see you have conned your way into a new house yet again...
[00:55] <bkerensa> ?
[00:56] <bkerensa> philipballew: what new house?
[00:56] <philipballew> the one in the picture bkerensa
[00:57] <philipballew> I now know where to crash in Portland
[00:57] <bkerensa> philipballew: thats Linus Torvalds house
[00:57] <bkerensa> and Im pretty sure he would not let you within a hundred yards
[00:57] <bkerensa> ;)
[00:57] <bkerensa> that or the Lake Corporation's Patrols would get you ;p
[00:57] <DonkeyHotei> whither battery?
[00:58] <philipballew> he lives in a gated community?
[00:58] <bkerensa> philipballew: no he lives in Lake Oswego which is managed by the Lake Corporation
[00:58] <bkerensa> you have to pay an extra $2500 to $3500 to be a member each year
[00:58] <bkerensa> which covers things like security and lobbying
[00:59] <bkerensa> :P
[00:59] <philipballew> I live near an irrigation canal
[00:59] <bkerensa> http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-28689-oswego_lake_access_issue_heads_to_federal_court.html
[00:59] <philipballew> Lakes are nice
[00:59] <bkerensa> Well in Oregon all bodies of water are public land
[00:59] <bkerensa> however Lake Oswego (The City of) has given a monopoly to the Lake Corporation
[00:59] <bkerensa> which is funded by the ultra wealthy
[00:59] <philipballew> My family has a free cabin in Lake Tahoe. Thats about it
[01:00] <DonkeyHotei> water is land? what a weird state
[01:00] <bkerensa> the houses cost more then tahoe
[01:00] <bkerensa> a cheap one runs for $2 million easy
[01:00] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: yep and in fact Oregonians own the ocean in front of their property
[01:00] <bkerensa> :)
[01:00] <philipballew> hum, shoot. Where does everyone get the money
[01:01] <bkerensa> I cant remember how far out but the beach and ocean in front of your land in Oregon is your private land
[01:01] <philipballew> ca is a weird state DonkeyHotei
[01:01] <DonkeyHotei> three miles?
[01:01] <bkerensa> philipballew: idk... Nike? Adiddas? Intel? Yahoo? Google? Facebook? :P they are all here
[01:01] <bkerensa> Xerox?
[01:01] <bkerensa> :P
[01:01] <DonkeyHotei> CA is an altered state
[01:01] <philipballew> Navada is where its at for business.
[01:02] <philipballew> They have the whole tax thing down
[01:02] <DonkeyHotei> nevada is dirt-poor
[01:03] <bkerensa> philipballew: what do they have down?
[01:03] <philipballew> low taxes
[01:03] <philipballew> they have taxes down
[01:03] <DonkeyHotei> they have a sales tax, and oregon doesn't
[01:03] <bkerensa> Oregon is the place for business because we create economic zones for any company who moves in which is why every tech company is trying to build datacenters here and pay zero taxes
[01:03] <philipballew> down as in nothing for the buissnes
[01:04] <philipballew> no sales tax there DonkeyHotei
[01:04] <bkerensa> ?
[01:04] <bkerensa> and?
[01:04] <bkerensa> Most big business in this state doesnt have to pay property taxes
[01:04] <DonkeyHotei> oregon also has no income tax AFAIK
[01:04] <bkerensa> Google and Facebook dont
[01:04] <philipballew> CA is the 49th most unfriendly state for companies iirc
[01:04] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: what?
[01:04] <bkerensa> We have income tax
[01:04] <DonkeyHotei> what's 50th?
[01:05] <bkerensa> we have one of the highest income taxes in the country
[01:05] <DonkeyHotei> bkerensa: state income tax? really?
[01:05] <philipballew> Apple funnels all their revenue through reno iirc
[01:05] <philipballew> ny DonkeyHotei
[01:05] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: yeah... Our income tax offsets the lack of sales tax
[01:05] <bkerensa> thats how our state gets revenue
[01:05] <DonkeyHotei> it's higher than CA?
[01:05] <bkerensa> heh
[01:07] <bkerensa> http://www.myoregon.org/oregon-taxes/
[01:09] <bkerensa> http://www.oregon.gov/DOR/BUS/docs/206-430.pdf?ga=t