[00:00] <nulldev> ninux your syntax
[00:00] <nulldev> ninux incorrect for one cat -- >>
[00:00] <cockatrice> Should I choose 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu for the usb drive installation?
[00:00] <golfik467> done
[00:00] <golfik467> I'ts copied
[00:00] <L3tops> ninux: you could follow that with an & and it will be backgrounded
[00:00] <xomp> could someone nudge me in the right direction for help? My ubuntu server is often the target of DDoS attacks and I've been trying to use tcpdump to determine where the source of the attacks are coming from but it's not going too well for me.
[00:01] <golfik467> ISO with no extraction
[00:01] <ninux> nulldev: could you tell me the right command ?
[00:02] <ninux> L3tops: you mean to add "&" to my command and thats it?
[00:02] <nulldev> ninux what is you want to do, and why does it require the redirection of tty1
[00:02] <golfik467> Jordan do u need windows cofiguration?
[00:03] <L3tops> ninux: tee is probably what you are looking for anyway
[00:03] <ninux> i have a small ARM server (hacked seagate dockstar) and just a ethernet and som USB port. i want to add a display and need tty over USB-Serial to a microchip
[00:03] <nulldev> ninux you cant tail off tty*
[00:03] <L3tops> ninux: /join #bash
[00:04] <Jordan_U> golfik467: Are you currently booted into Windows or Ubuntu? If you're booted into Windows then please reboot (or change computers) so that you can work from an Ubuntu system.
[00:04] <nulldev> ninux so thats wherwe its failing
[00:04] <Jordan_U> golfik467: And please include my nick in your replies so that my client will highlight them.
[00:05] <golfik467> as I said I'm using IRC for first time
[00:05] <golfik467> Sry for inconvinience
[00:06] <golfik467> both my computer ran on windows
[00:06] <golfik467> sry, are running on windows
[00:07] <ninux> L3tops: from man tee "tee - read from std input n write to std output" but i have to copy the tty1 output to usb. so tee wont work or am i wrong?
[00:07] <PlayX> http://de.twitch.tv/playx83 who wants  play with me? ;-)
[00:07] <golfik467> Jordan_U: both are running on windows
[00:08] <cockatrice> If I had a 64-bit version of ubuntu, would it run on a 32-bit processor?
[00:08] <priori99> where are the ubuntu wallpapers stored in my machine?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> golfik467: Please boot your other computer into Ubuntu via the liveUSB then come back here.
[00:08] <golfik467> k
[00:08] <golfik467> Jordan_U: k
[00:09] <L3tops> ninux: read your sentence back... " write to std output but i have to copy the tty1 output to usb"  you want to tee the output to USB... again though... you need to join #bash... this is not an ubuntu issue.
[00:09] <golfik467> Jordan_U: brb
[00:09] <Jordan_U> golfik467: We should be able to switch it from booting via Syslinux to booting via grub from within the LiveUSB session itself.
[00:09] <OerHeks> cockatrice, maybe not.
[00:09] <xomp> could someone nudge me in the right direction for help? My ubuntu server is often the target of DDoS attacks and I've been trying to use tcpdump to determine where the source of the attacks are coming from but it's not going too well for me.
[00:09] <nulldev> ninux what is you need to get from tty1?
[00:09] <priori99> not themes, but wallpapers
[00:09] <cockatrice> OerHeks: so it's safer to just install the 32-bit version of Ubuntu if I want it to run on all modern computers?
[00:09] <nulldev> ninux you might be able to get it from a log
[00:10] <OerHeks> cockatrice, yes, that would do on every machine.
[00:10] <Jordan_U> PlayX: This channel is for Ubuntu support related discussion only, please don't make offtopic comments here (especially ones containing links making them look like spam).
[00:10] <cockatrice> OerHeks: Thanks!
[00:10] <IdleOne> xomp: might want to see if #ubuntu-hardened   can help you out
[00:10] <xomp> thanks IdleOne
[00:11] <IdleOne> xomp: or #ubuntu-server
[00:12] <nulldev> xomp ddod are exactly what they say distributed so hard to pinpoint and block
[00:12] <ninux> nulldev: actually i want to write a log on this road: tty* -> usb to serial -> microchip -> display
[00:12] <ninux> i'll try it at #bash
[00:12] <nulldev> ddos*
[00:12] <xomp> nulldev, I've noticed the majority of attacks are icmp floods which wireshark can sort and I can drop the traffic via iptables
[00:13] <nulldev> xomp yeah you can filter by packet but not from source
[00:14] <xomp> yeah, I had my own server show up as the source and that's why I'm curious to find a way since I don't want to drop packets from my own box hehe
[00:16] <nulldev> xomp ddos comes from to many sources unfortunately unless someone else more network orientated corrects me
[00:16] <nikama> http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=42757.msg328857#msg328857
[00:17] <xomp> nulldev, I see, I guess there is no use in trying to mitigate such attacks outside of asking my provider to null the route for 24 hours?
[00:17] <nikama> how i uninstall all vmware files, ubuntu 10.04
[00:18] <nulldev> xomp worth speaking with your host they can usually filter some out just not
[00:18] <nulldev> all
[00:18] <greenwolf> suo
[00:18] <xomp> my server is with Linode, they don't really offer any help at all and instead threaten to blacklist you from their services should any attacks you have impact their network too much.
[00:19] <flametai1> Hi everyone, does anybody know if it is possible to watch Netflix on Ubuntu at all?
[00:19] <GeekSquid> flametai1: netflix has a plugin for firefox that works
[00:19] <yeats> nikama: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server#Uninstalling_Source_Installs
[00:20] <flametai1> GeekSquid, it is called Moonlight correct?
[00:20] <xomp> I really enjoy Linode and all and would hate to lose them as a host but if these attacks continue (which they likely will) I'll be ousted and left with over crowded providers to choose from :/
[00:20] <nikama> yes
[00:20] <nulldev> xomp if your on self managed servers thats the way it is
[00:20] <Cerrdor> After I have my server install all set up then in order to have others use my server I need a DNS server? Or can they just point to my IP?
[00:20] <nikama> Thanks yeats!!!
[00:21] <GeekSquid> flametai1: yep
[00:21] <flametai1> GeekSquid, I installed it but it still just gives me the requirement screen?
[00:22] <xomp> nulldev, thanks for your help, I'll just ride this all out and hope for the best lol
[00:22] <nulldev> cerrdor as long as the zone entries are pesent on your server then all they need to do is point the ns to your ip
[00:23] <nulldev> xomp ok , good luck
[00:23] <sirriffsalot> Hey! I logged in this evening and the right side of my top panel (in gnome classic), with among many other things, system settings, shut down button, et cetera, has disappeared... I was stupid enough to exit the error message without checking... any ideas?
[00:25] <flametai1> Has anyone had trouble getting the moonlight plugin to work for netflix on Ubuntu 12.04? I can't watch anything it still gives me the requirements screen =/
[00:25] <foxmulder881> any conky freaks here?
[00:25] <GeekSquid> flametai1: from what I am reading DRM comes into play which makes it difficult to watch protected media... It is coming, but we have to be patient... Couple of things you can do... Run a virtual machine of windows, or android to allow playback via the native tools there
[00:26] <nulldev> lametail I personally use netflix and the fact it flags it works on android, looks to me like the dev need to adjust there check var as it aint looking for inux
[00:27] <nulldev> *Linux
[00:27] <flametai1> Okay good to know thank you GeekSquid and nulldev
[00:27] <foxmulder881> anyone help me with a conky issue?
[00:28] <Cerrdor> sirriffsalot: try alt+F2
[00:28] <Cerrdor> nulldev: where would I check for those?
[00:29] <sirriffsalot> Cerrdor: ok? then what?:P
[00:29] <nulldev> cerrdor not sure with ubuntu as Im red hat based
[00:29] <Cerrdor> sirriffsalot that should bring back your menus
[00:30] <greenwolf> yes same problem here i just installed moonlight and its not working for netflix
[00:30] <sirriffsalot> Cerrdor:  Brought fourth a "run" window... nothing else:/
[00:32] <Cerrdor> wierd
[00:32] <nulldev> cerrdor do a updatedb && locate named.* or updatedb && locate bind9
[00:32] <EliahKagan> greenwolf: moonlight doesn't work for Netflix because it doesn't support DRM
[00:32] <Cerrdor> sirriffsalot try sudo killall gnome-panel
[00:32] <Cerrdor> should force a restart
[00:33] <sam1967> anyone know why alt-tab doesnt work in ubuntu ?
[00:33] <EliahKagan> greenwolf: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/1488/is-there-a-way-to-stream-netflix and the links therein for details
[00:33] <EliahKagan> sam1967: it does work, in general -- what desktop environment and Ubuntu version are you using, and is this a VM?
[00:33] <greenwolf> ok thanks eliahkagan
[00:34] <greenwolf> i will check that out
[00:34] <sam1967> its not a vm. im using 12.04 with gnome classic
[00:34] <lcc> does the current release of ubuntu support uefi?
[00:34] <EliahKagan> greenwolf: i think at some point maybe silverlight was going to work in Chrome (proprietary Chrome, not foss Chromium); besides that, if you have a copy of Windows, you can make a virtual machine and access Netflix inside that
[00:35] <EliahKagan> lcc: yes it's still supported, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[00:36] <nulldev> Im not an android user so why doesent something that works on android not work on a desktop
[00:36] <greenwolf> ok so really the only way to view it is thru a vmaware or virtual box?
[00:36] <EliahKagan> sam1967: i don't know why that's not working, unless you've edited your shortcut key combinations and overloaded Alt+Tab
[00:36] <greenwolf> thru windows on that
[00:37] <EliahKagan> greenwolf: or other virtualization software (you can run windows on qemu too, for instance)
[00:37] <nulldev> is it google proprietary?
[00:37] <sirriffsalot> Cerrdor: nope, reset back to how it was... still can't see it=(
[00:37] <BronzeEagle> So I installed ubuntu 12.04 server edition on one of my servers on my cluster for testing and mpd keeps throwing "handle_mpd_output 420): from mpd on $HOSTNAME, invalid port info: no_port" any ideas?
[00:37] <EliahKagan> nulldev: i think Microsoft supports the Android platform
[00:38] <EliahKagan> but Google Chrome might support Netflix
[00:38] <greenwolf> EliahKagan: not to familiar with qemu what is it?
[00:38] <EliahKagan> so i think that's worth trying
[00:38] <Cerrdor> sirriffsalot have you tried logging out then back in?
[00:38] <sirriffsalot> Cerrdor: hehe, yep...
[00:38] <EliahKagan> it's another FOSS virtualization solution
[00:38] <greenwolf> nice
[00:38] <Cerrdor> wierd
[00:38] <lcc> EliahKagan: so if I get a laptop with uefi firmware I can boot an ubuntu cd and install it, or is it a more complicated process? I'm reading the docs...
[00:38] <Cerrdor> hit alt+F2 and type gnome-panel
[00:39] <EliahKagan> lcc: i don't think you should have any problems
[00:39] <escott> lcc, there are lots of growing pains. worst case you are going to have to play around with grub-efi and bootloaders. save 1MB of free space on your disk somewhere in case you need to switch to a bios emulated boot
[00:39] <EliahKagan> greenwolf: see http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qemu
[00:39] <nulldev> eliahkagan really m$ supporting google?
[00:39] <Cerrdor> brb need to load up VM
[00:41] <EliahKagan> nulldev: no, it seems that Netflix supports Android as a special case (not using Silverlight), see https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient
[00:42] <EliahKagan> i would hope Microsoft would support Android to help Silverlight compete against Flash, but i guess not
[00:42] <EliahKagan> according to Wikipedia, Silverlight 4 supports Chrome
[00:42] <Cerrdor> Ok back
[00:43] <Cerrdor> nulldev you still around?
[00:43] <EliahKagan> so you might try that: https://www.google.com/chrome/
[00:43] <alusion> Hey ubuntu I want to customize my windows and nautilus color themes and whatnot what can I use to tweak such settings?
[00:44] <nulldev> cerrdor I am but under influence og ganja and alcohol
[00:44] <nulldev> of*
[00:45] <EliahKagan> Google Chrome installation on Ubuntu is simple and should not be hindered significantly by those chemicals ;-)
[00:46] <Cerrdor> EliahKagan, lol
[00:46] <Studious> you can download the Google Chrome deb file directly from the website
[00:46] <BronzeEagle> So I installed ubuntu 12.04 server edition on one of my servers on my cluster for testing and mpd keeps throwing "handle_mpd_output 420): from mpd on $HOSTNAME, invalid port info: no_port" any ideas?
[00:46] <Studious> and install it with the command sudo dpkg -i chrome*.deb
[00:47] <EliahKagan> or just double click on it and it will open to install with the Software Center (or with gdebi, if you are running an Ubuntu variant without the Software Center)
[00:47] <Cerrdor> Studious, is there a .conf file somewhere you need to edit?
[00:48] <sirriffsalot> Anyone...?
[00:48] <nulldev> studious if that command ever fails because theres no chrome* in the dir
[00:48] <Studious> open terminal
[00:48] <Studious> then change to the directory where your download file is
[00:48] <alusion> Hey with compiz-effects what should I look out for when tweaking my system to not mess anything up?
[00:48] <nulldev> people copying and pasting from google you will breaak your box one day
[00:49] <Studious> so what you can type is: cd ~/Download or cd ~/download
[00:49] <EliahKagan> nulldev: the download link i pasted for Google Chrome isn't a google search result, it's the official dowload page for Chrome
[00:49] <Studious> then do ls *deb which will list all deb files in the directory
[00:49] <EliahKagan> since Chrome is a Google product
[00:49] <Harris> Dr_Willis,  what ubuntu comes after 12.04
[00:50] <EliahKagan> nulldev: did you download it?
[00:50] <EliahKagan> if so, you have to go to wherever you downloaded it
[00:50] <nulldev> studious install it with dpkg -i full path never give noobs wild cards
[00:50] <EliahKagan> (or specify that in the path)
[00:50] <Harris> what version of ubuntu is after 12.04
[00:51] <EliahKagan> Harris: 12.04 LTS will be followed by 12.10
[00:51] <nulldev> Ive seen alot of noobs wipe most there system out using wild cards
[00:51] <EliahKagan> the code name for 12.10 will be Quantal Quetzal
[00:51] <EliahKagan> you can already start testing it but there are not many changes yet, besides the compiler and toolchain
[00:51] <blackmatrix_ny> hello folks...the laptop is connected to a power source but battery state is not showing as charging...any known bugs regarding this ?
[00:51] <Harris> what will be new in ubuntu 12.10 EliahKagan
[00:53] <nulldev> eliahkagan I wont let Chrome on my box
[00:53] <EliahKagan> nulldev: gotcha, i didn't know if you were trying to install or not
[00:54] <EliahKagan> Harris: like every new Ubuntu release, Quantal will have new versions of all the software officially packaged for it....besides that, to be specific, here are some planned changes: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/next-ubuntu-q-to-bring-font-icon-quantum-openstack-service-to-linux/10813
[00:54] <nulldev> eliahkagan what worries me is that chromium fails to start if no RW on /dev/shm
[00:54] <EliahKagan> it's pretty preliminary so far, as Precise was just recently released
[00:55] <BronzeEagle> So I installed ubuntu 12.04 server edition on one of my servers on my cluster for testing and mpd keeps throwing "handle_mpd_output 420): from mpd on $HOSTNAME, invalid port info: no_port" any ideas?
[00:55] <Harris> does anyone know what the game is called where animated characters look like bobble heads and they appear on a ski lift and you have 100 seconds to guess who they are
[00:55] <Harris> the maker starts with an n
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Harris: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:56] <nulldev> bronzeeagle not familar with your setup but sounds like your config is wrong
[00:57] <BronzeEagle> nulldev: Well I my master node and node-1 are running Debian 6.0.4 and I've done the exact same thing with the ubuntu serv.
[00:58] <BronzeEagle> s/I my/my/
[00:58] <Harris> how d i run imovie in ubuntu for free
[00:58] <escott> nulldev, why does /dev/shm worry you?
[00:59] <Harris> how d i run imovie in ubuntu for free
[00:59] <nulldev> bronzeeagle where does it get the port from when run? Is it manually inputted, is the destination port open on the destinaton server?
[00:59] <Harris> EliahKagan,  how d i run imovie in ubuntu for free
[01:00] <schnuffle> Harris: stop repeating yourself. If someone knows you'll get an answer
[01:00] <nulldev> escott nothing apart from everythin else that uses it works fine apart from chromium when I set it to RO
[01:01] <BronzeEagle> nulldev: It's not manual and yes
[01:02] <Harris> schnuffle,  stop being rude
[01:02] <nulldev> bronzeeagle can you pastebin the config?
[01:03] <BronzeEagle> nulldev: sure one sec
[01:04] <EliahKagan> Harris: you don't -- iMovie only runs on Mac OS X, Mac OS, and iOS
[01:05] <EliahKagan> Ubuntu doesn't have a way to run programs for any of those platforms (except with virtualization/emulation, which is nontrivial and undesirable for high-end applications like serious use of iMovie)
[01:05] <Deep6> guys anyone use vmbuilder here?
[01:05] <nulldev> eliahkagan does it run on bsd then?
[01:05] <Harris> EliahKagan,  i have to make a slideshow for my class
[01:05] <EliahKagan> as a separate issue, iMovie is proprietary payware, so the part where you get it (unless you already have it) would probably not be free
[01:05] <EliahKagan> if your BSD system is Mac OS X yes, but otherwise, no
[01:05] <nulldev> so no
[01:06] <bobweaver> Elchzard,  this is kinda off topic but Ubuntu tv is  moving right along (I dont know what Imovie is thou )
[01:07] <nulldev> I love Unix because it inspired Linux but also hate it for its propriety ness
[01:07] <schnuffle> Deep6: Haven't used but sounds interessting. Up to now I used lxc to create chroot test envs
[01:07] <BronzeEagle> nulldev: the only line in the conf file is "secretword=mysecretword"
[01:07] <EliahKagan> yeah, unfortunately not -- if you have the source for a Mac OS X app that uses the Cocoa framework, and are skilled and willing to do a little work, you may be able to port it to gnustep which will run on Ubuntu, but there is no framework in Ubuntu or any BSD or Linux based OS (besides Mac OS X itself) that will run Mac OS X and iOS apps
[01:08] <EliahKagan> well currently Unix is technically just a label that applies to OSes that get certified by the Open Group -- this can be FOSS or proprietary OSes
[01:08] <nulldev> bronzeeagle could be an auth failure can you manually connect using the creds the scripot uses?
[01:08] <Deep6> schnuffle: check it out vmbuilder is a hypervisor abstraction script
[01:08] <Deep6> quite cool
[01:08] <Deep6> if I can get it to work
[01:09] <schnuffle> Deep6: where is your problem?
[01:09] <EliahKagan> the oldest Unix-like OSes that are still used regularly for general purpose applications are FOSS, they are the *BSD operating systems
[01:10] <nulldev> eliahkagan arent aix or hpaix still going I never kow the exact name
[01:10] <EliahKagan> (and Solaris, which isn't FOSS since Oracle sunset OpenSolaris but OpenIndiana is equivalent)
[01:10] <Deep6> schnuffle: I managed to figure it out  now-ish....but i'll have to wait to understand if it'll happen again
[01:10] <EliahKagan> nulldev: yeah, Aix is still going strong, though doesn't have nearly as much market penetration
[01:10] <EliahKagan> and is mainly used for servers
[01:11] <EliahKagan> i guess this depends on how we define "general purpose"
[01:11] <schnuffle> Deep6: okay then good luck
[01:11] <bobweaver> EliahKagan,  do you have a ubuntu releated questions if not there is a off-topic channel for off-yopic things
[01:11] <EliahKagan> bobweaver: sorry to go off-topic; i was responding to a comment about proprietary UNIX, i'll stop now ;-)
[01:12] <nulldev> eliahkagan my bsd experience is installing freebsd 4 (I think)
[01:12] <JonEdney> EliahKagan, restrain yourself! :P
[01:12] <EliahKagan> unless you have a question regarding comparison of Ubuntu to proprietary Unix, nulldev
[01:12] <nulldev> apart from that nothing apart from /bin/bash
[01:12] <greenwolf> what really is the primary difference between BSD and linux?
[01:12] <bobweaver> I like to hear it but if it is offtopic maybe the off-topic channel is a good place I respect you for hearing me out thanks.
[01:12] <bobweaver> EliahKagan,  ^^
[01:13] <EliahKagan> is BSD / Linux comparison on-topic for #ubuntu (as it's not specific to Ubuntu...but Ubuntu is Linux)?
[01:13] <EliahKagan> (i don't wanna keep offending ;-) )
[01:14] <nulldev> uibuntu isnt linux well not from there new kernel compiling its not
[01:14] <escott> EliahKagan, its just a matter of keeping the channel clear for people who need help now
[01:14] <bobweaver> EliahKagan,  I learned the hard way but if you are ever in doubt ask  #ubuntu-irc
[01:14] <OerHeks> greenwolf, mainly: The BSD License is much less restrictive and even allows for the distribution of binary-only source.
[01:15] <greenwolf> wow ok
[01:15] <greenwolf> any difference in regards to performance
[01:16] <Deep6> hrm....anyone have a way of shrinking /
[01:16] <escott> Deep6, boot the livecd/liveusb and use gparted
[01:16] <bobweaver> Deep6,  what do you `mean by shrink ?
[01:17] <JonEdney> Deep6, if you mean make the partition smaller, you can boot from live CD
[01:17] <JonEdney> Wow, that came a little late.
[01:17] <Deep6> well, it occurred to me that I for disk performance of my vm's I should be using raw lvm devices
[01:17] <nulldev> no other Linux chaneels act like this but they do linux-kernel not ubuntu-kernel are you funded by m$?
[01:17] <Deep6> so, given i have all of my lvm vg used up in the lv root
[01:18] <escott> Deep6, be careful with those. you can break things badly by mounting the raw device under host and guest
[01:18] <Deep6> I need to resize my lv root, to provide more space for lvm raw devices
[01:18] <Deep6> escott: they wouldn't be mounted under the host
[01:18] <Deep6> just essentially be raw lv's for guests
[01:18] <escott> Deep6, just make sure of that
[01:18] <Deep6> to improve disk io
[01:19] <Deep6> \
[01:19] <Deep6> ze plan is fullproof
[01:19] <Deep6> it'll be unsinkable!!!!
[01:19] <JonEdney> Like the titanic...
[01:19] <Deep6> drat, I knew I'd heard that before
[01:20] <Deep6> somewhere
[01:20] <EliahKagan> nulldev (and whoever): i just joined #ubuntu-offtopic, i'd be pleased to contrast GNU/Linux and BSD systems there if you're interested
[01:21] <nulldev> if titanic had been software it wouldnt have been heard of the amount of buggy software
[01:22] <nulldev> yeah will join you eliahkagan
[01:27] <Cerrdor> Is BIND9 what I need for DNS and Zone management?
[01:28] <mortal1> has anyone here ever set up whole disk encryption with a seperate home partition?
[01:28] <Deep6> Cerrdor: yes
[01:28] <Cerrdor> kthnx
[01:29] <Deep6> Cerrdor: it's not something you setup overnight, without experience
[01:29] <Cerrdor> thats what im about to learn
[01:29] <Deep6> try and find the Orielly book written by Cricket Liu
[01:30] <Cerrdor> Deep6, can you give me some idea of what is going to be involved here?
[01:30] <Deep6> Cerrdor: voodooo
[01:30] <Deep6> but fun voodoo
[01:31] <Deep6> look for the oreilly book online
[01:31] <Cerrdor> Meh I have been a voodoo practicianer for over 20 years now I dont think it is going to help tonight though lol
[01:31] <Deep6> most people don't truly get DNS, running your own server is one of the best ways of doing so
[01:32] <Cerrdor> thats what it is for. I want to learn what goes on on my hostings side of things I want to learn how they do it
[01:32] <Deep6> Cricket _gets_ DNS... more than a bazillion people combined, and on top of it, he's a good guy
[01:33] <oscarpaats> Hi. I can't edit my grub 2. I try gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom but it does not allow me. I run as administrator
[01:33] <Deep6> Cerrdor: 10 years ago people were using BIND a lot and manually maintaining their own zone files, often now people are using appliances
[01:33] <Deep6> or.....shudder....Windows for DNS
[01:34] <Deep6> Infoblox (whom Cricket works for) has appliances that are based on BIND
[01:34] <randomDude> is there some kind of linux method to centerally manage firefox, thunderbird, gnome-shell and googlechrome SETTINGS and updates for a local network of workstations from a central server?
[01:34] <randomDude> would i use puppet to manage firefox addons/settings/bookmarks, googlechrome addons/settings/bookmarks, thunderbird settings/useraccounts for a localnetwork of workstations deployed by a cobbler server?	
[01:36] <schnuffle> randomDude:  Puppet could do it
[01:37] <randomDude> schnuffle: is that just an observation or do you have some kind of links that document experience with this particular scenario?
[01:37] <schnuffle> randomDude: Just checking if I find the pages I read
[01:46] <mortal1> is it possible to have a seperate home partition using ubuntu's whole disk encryption?
[01:46] <escott> mortal1, should be
[01:52] <thanmustoki> hello world
[01:55] <dinguse> Hello, has anyone here had any experience syncing an iphone under ubuntu 12.04?
[01:55] <sam1967> hello thanmustoki. what does your name mean ?
[01:55] <dinguse> From what I've gathered, the best way to do this is with itunes on virtualbox, but i'm not sure if there's a better way
[01:56] <escott> !ipod
[01:56] <dinguse> escott, thanks
[01:57] <dinguse> escott, on that page there is nothing mentioning 12.04... can i assume that the instructions for 10.10 will work for me?
[01:58] <Harris> hi i added the cube under desktop in compiz and now when i go under workstation i cant click a window and move it to a different workstation
[01:59] <randomDude> schnuffle: did you have any luck finding that information ?
[01:59] <escott> dinguse, presumably
[01:59] <schnuffle> Not yet. I read an article about it, but couldn't find it in my linklist
[01:59] <dinguse> escott, thanks
[02:02] <noahnoah> Strange problem with startup applications in 12.04.  I have two applications listed - vncserver and quick synergy.  Upon startup I get 150 COPIES of each started.  Any idea who??
[02:02] <noahnoah> why??
[02:04] <JonEdney> noahnoah, I'm not familiar with that personally, but did you try removing the applications and reinstalling them?
[02:04] <noahnoah> That's couldn't possible be the issue.  The applications are fine.  the startup process is creating all the instances
[02:08] <VMERSINTO> what language is opera written in?
[02:09] <pslodge> Hi
[02:09] <EliahKagan> it's mostly C++
[02:09] <pslodge> Is there a way to make Ubuntu look a little smaller?
[02:09] <EliahKagan> smaller in what way?
[02:09] <pslodge> Like, OSX on the macbook is quite clear and sharp and not in your face
[02:09] <pslodge> ubuntu is.. kind of jumping out of the screen at me
[02:09] <pslodge> everything is just  a little too bulky
[02:09] <VMERSINTO> i think he means resolution
[02:09] <pslodge> Well, resolution is one way
[02:09] <pslodge> but I'm running at the highest
[02:10] <pslodge> which happens to be the same as my macbook
[02:10] <pslodge> but ubuntu is still looking a little chunky
[02:10] <EliahKagan> so you want the windows and menus to use fewer pixels
[02:10] <pslodge> expecially in eclipse
[02:10] <pslodge> Yes
[02:10] <pslodge> exactly
[02:10] <L3tops> !enter
[02:10] <FloodBot1> pslodge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <Harris> hi i added the cube under desktop in compiz and now when i go under workstation i cant click a window and move it to a different workstation
[02:11] <pslodge> I've made all the systems fonts smaller, that helped a little
[02:11] <L3tops> cube breaks unity... what version ubuntu are you on Harris?
[02:11] <xangua> Harris: happends then you force an incompatible compiz plugin with unity ;)
[02:11] <Harris> 12.04 L3tops
[02:11] <L3tops> yeah... cube does not play nice with the other kids...
[02:12] <Harris> L3tops, how do i fix it then
[02:12] <L3tops> disable the cube
[02:12] <Harris> i did
[02:12] <Harris> that did not work
[02:12] <L3tops> I am not really sure what enabling the cube asks you to disable in order to do it, but you will need to reenable those things.
[02:13] <Harris> should i uninstall compiz
[02:13] <L3tops> no... that would definitely break everything
[02:13] <xangua> Harris: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[02:13] <L3tops> ty xangua
[02:14] <cab938> I did an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, and now it seems a bunch of services are broken
[02:14] <cab938> any thoughts on how I best handle this?
[02:14] <L3tops> !details | cab938
[02:15] <HyperNerdV2> Guys, i have a quick question about android… Does anyone know if android phones give you the option to down-res movies automatically when attempting to send via e-mail?
[02:15] <HyperNerdV2> Much like when you take a photo and the os will ask if you want to send a "small" "medium"  or "large" version.
[02:16] <iBotPeaches> yes it does
[02:16] <cab938> I have a problem with being able to run various services.  I'm running ubuntu 12.04  When I tryand ssh into my machine, or connect to samba share I can't, even on localhost.  I get Connection refused.  ufw says it is disabled.  I can't connect based on my external IP either.
[02:16] <cab938> It's not just ssh, it is samba too
[02:16] <HyperNerdV2> iBotPeaches: was that directed at me?
[02:17] <iBotPeaches> HyperNerdV2, yes
[02:17] <HyperNerdV2> iBotPeaches: ha, thanks
[02:17] <escott> cab938, are you coming in from outside your local subnet
[02:18] <iBotPeaches> My comp has been sitting at the installer of "who are you?" for 25min, it only took 4 seconds on my laptop. Guess something failed, restarting and trying again
[02:18] <cab938> escott, from the same machine
[02:19] <cab938> I've tried same subnet too, but that didn't help
[02:19] <cab938> no problems with outgoing net traffic
[02:19] <cab938> and I can do things like torrent
[02:19] <cab938> so it seems to be specific to these services
[02:19] <escott> cab938, and what does service ssh status say
[02:20] <arooni-mobile> i read through : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-install-onionrouter-software/ ... but how do i get ubuntu to route *all* outgoing traffic through privoxy /tor?
[02:20] <cab938> ssh stop/waiting
[02:20] <escott> cab938, well its not running
[02:20] <cab938> And I just tried to restart it;
[02:20] <cab938> cab938@bamboo:~/sandboxes/cab938/Research$ sudo service ssh restart
[02:20] <cab938> stop: Unknown instance:
[02:20] <cab938> ssh start/running, process 3795
[02:20] <Zambz> hey guys, is there any similar application for Ubuntu to perform filer-like (ZFS Solaris) functions? :) thanks heaps
[02:20] <cab938> So it seems borked?
[02:20] <cab938> where would a find an error log for it?
[02:21] <escott> /var/log/
[02:21] <cab938> It did work before the upgrade, hence the thought that the upgrade killed it
[02:22] <escott> cab938, what is your runlevel? are you at 2?
[02:22] <cab938> yes
[02:22] <cab938> syslog has this:
[02:22] <cab938> May 25 20:22:48 bamboo kernel: [372835.638299] init: ssh main process (3835) killed by ABRT signal
[02:22] <cab938> May 25 20:22:48 bamboo kernel: [372835.638325] init: ssh respawning too fast, stopped
[02:22] <FloodBot1> cab938: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <cab938> A bunch of times
[02:23] <arooni-mobile> nevermind found this guide : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Tor
[02:23] <mortal1> is there a way to tell the ubuntu alt cd to use an existing lvm instead of creating one?
[02:23] <cab938> Is there a specific log file for ssh?
[02:24] <escott> cab938, that suggests that sshd is calling abort inside its own code. some assertion must be failing
[02:25] <escott> Zambz, you may want to tell us what those functions would do
[02:25] <cab938> When I tail the log and restart it tries about half a dozen times calling ABRT and then finally stopping
[02:26] <Zambz> escott: Hey buddy, well they provide snapshotting and RAID-Z of all filesystems, much like a filer
[02:26] <escott> Zambz, so btrfs (also a oracle product) supports snapshotting. another approach is lvm which provides various replication features
[02:27] <escott> Zambz, and if you want raid btrfs has that built in, or you can use mdam
[02:27] <Zambz> will check those out
[02:27] <Zambz> thanks!
[02:28] <escott> Zambz, btrfs is the most obvious direct competitor to things like ZFS but its not considered stable yet
[02:29] <foxmulder881> a stable btrfs seems a long time coming, actually.
[02:29] <cab938> escott, when I run sshd stand alone it seems to core dump; what would be the best way to reinstall it and is dependances?
[02:29] <cab938> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007480/
[02:29] <cab938> Shows the dump
[02:30] <escott> cab938, maybe. hard to say whats going on ther
[02:31] <escott> cab938, you dont have anything pinned do you
[02:31] <venenoverde> hello
[02:31] <EliahKagan> hi venenoverde
[02:31] <cab938> escott, is it sad I thought instantly about my wife's tablet and her pinterest usage?
[02:31] <cab938> :)
[02:31] <cab938> I'm afraid I don't know pinned in this context, unless its cpu, and no
[02:31] <escott> !pinning | cab938
[02:32] <foxmulder881> can anyone see my comments?
[02:32] <foxmulder881> reply just with "yes".
[02:33] <escott> foxmulder881, yes
[02:33] <foxmulder881> thanks escott. ;-)
[02:33] <cab938> I don't think I do escott, I don't have an /etc/apt/preferences file
[02:34] <cab938> and the sources.list looks like everything is now precise
[02:35] <akshatj__> Help! Ubuntu installer is stuck
[02:35] <escott> !details | akshatj__
[02:36] <akshatj__> 12.04, installing using USB
[02:37] <escott> and it is stuck doing what
[02:37] <akshatj__> Installing
[02:37] <escott> can you be more specific
[02:37] <akshatj__> It is stuck at "Installing System"
[02:38] <Zambz> escott: I also just installed zfs-fuse and created a new pool which looks to be working quite well!
[02:39] <venenoverde> hello
[02:39] <escott> akshatj__, i wonder if you could login to a tty while the installer is running. you could try it Ctrl-alt-f1 should bring up a tty, and ctrl-alt-f7 should take you back
[02:40] <escott> at the terminal you might be able to run top to see if the cpu is in use
[02:40] <Thehobo> Hey, I am trying to install Ubuntu and after boot, my monitor keeps saying "Check signal cable". I am running through a DVI to VGA adaptor (my monitor is samsung syncmaster 740N). And I can't even INSTALL the OS :(.
[02:40] <Thehobo> I looked on google and I couldnt find anything.
[02:40] <escott> Thehobo, dont run through adapters like that
[02:41] <Thehobo> escott, how come?
[02:41] <foxmulder881> above, avoid adapters.
[02:41] <cab938> escott, Is it insane to try and --reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[02:41] <cab938> I'm really at a loss where to go next with this
[02:41] <escott> Thehobo, cause they are all broken. edid gets screwed up, and you cant get modelines
[02:41] <escott> cab938, i dont think it would do anything because it would only reinstall that one package
[02:42] <cab938> is there a way to reinstall with deps?
[02:42] <Thehobo> escott, foxmulder881, but for example I tried booting a windows CD and that works. So I suspect it has to do with Ubuntu not knowing how to output?
[02:42] <foxmulder881> probably not recognizing the display through the adapter.
[02:42] <foxmulder881> do you really need the adapter?
[02:43] <Thehobo> foxmulder881, Yes, my monitor is very old and my graphics card only has DVI outputs. :(
[02:43] <Thehobo> foxmulder881, my only other choice is to buy a new monitor which is out of the question due to financial constrains.
[02:44] <foxmulder881> no suggestions other than get a more modern display. sorry can't help you with that.
[02:44] <escott> Thehobo, you will want to specify modelines then
[02:44] <foxmulder881> try another distro just for curiousity sake.
[02:44] <Harris> L3tops, i did all of the codes in the website that xangua  gave us but it didnt work
[02:44] <xangua> ¿¿
[02:45] <foxmulder881> might be worth trying swapping dvi ports too.
[02:45] <Thehobo> escott, how do I do that though? It just boots, shows the little man next to a keyboard at the bottom of the screen. And only after that it goes to "check signal cable" while the system is still loading from the Cd
[02:45] <Thehobo> foxmulder881, I did that :)
[02:45] <Harris> xangua,  what is the upside down ? mean
[02:45] <escott> Thehobo, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt
[02:45] <Thehobo> foxmulder881, I tried both Ubuntu and Xubuntu, you mean I should try something like fedora?
[02:45] <foxmulder881> yeah.
[02:45] <foxmulder881> just be interesting to see.
[02:46] <escott> Thehobo, basically any modern kernel 3.2 and up? is going to try and to KMS
[02:46] <xangua> Harris: as in what did you do¿
[02:46] <foxmulder881> escott, i did not know that. ;-)
[02:46] <Thehobo> escott, I am reading through the thing and I don't know how I can do that because I can't see anything.
[02:47] <escott> Thehobo, you would specify it at the boot loader
[02:47] <Gaybar2000> i got a problem
[02:47] <Harris> i copied the codes from your website to reset the compiz settings unity and launcher to get the workspaces working again but it didnt work xangua
[02:47] <Gaybar2000> how can i chose the kernel i want to boot from command line?
[02:48] <escott> Gaybar2000, hold down shift when grub starts
[02:48] <Gaybar2000> no, i can't hold shift, the computer is remote
[02:48] <Thehobo> escott, so the computer boots up. It says press any key to boot from CD, and then I get the problem I told you. I cannot see anything. How can I specify at the boot loader then?
[02:49] <escott> Gaybar2000, change the default index in /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub. be careful though as you dont want to end up not being bootable
[02:49] <escott> Thehobo, sounds like you cant
[02:49] <Gaybar2000> thank you
[02:50] <Thehobo> escott, yeah :( oh well, thanks for trying to help me btw!
[02:50] <escott> Thehobo, you could try the alternate installer
[02:51] <Harris> xangua,  do you know what to do now
[02:51] <Thehobo> escott, yep :) thanks
[02:51] <keithclark> anyone be able to help with my mic not working anymore on my emachines netbook?
[02:51] <escott> cab938, im afraid i dont have any god ideas for you
[02:52] <cab938> yea, I'm feeling pretty empty here
[02:52] <cab938> ty for your help though escott
[02:52] <cab938> I wish I could just reinstall all 12.04 packages, maybe one was corrupted, but I have no idea how to do that
[02:52] <cab938> you would think there would be an option in apt-get
[02:52] <Harris> xangua, WHAT DO I DO
[02:53] <escott> cab938, there is a fix broken argument
[02:53] <keithclark> Well time to try another distro.....I'm tired of these 12.04 problems.  Just too many to solve.
[02:56] <xangua> !caps | Harris
[02:56] <xangua> Harris: what did you do in first place to force the cube plugin in unity¿
[02:59] <keithclark> Well I see by the activity here that Ubuntu is dying.  I'll try another like Mint....
[02:59] <Harris> xangua, all i did was installedthe compizconfig manager from usc
[03:00] <Harris> oh and i accidently used caps not on purpose
[03:00] <Harris> !caps
[03:00] <Harris> !rpo
[03:00] <Harris> !rpa
[03:01] <Harris> !pap
[03:01] <Harris> !ppa
[03:01] <keithclark> This has gone to the shit
[03:01] <Harris> !language
[03:02] <Sach> Working ith libreoffice 3 in ubuntu 11.04. After a power failure, just opened a .doc and prompted to choose ASCII Filter Options. Why is this?
[03:02] <keithclark> Ok, can someone acknowledge that I was here?
[03:02] <Harris> xangua, what else can i do
[03:02] <lestat__> keithclark lol
[03:02] <deww> keithclark: nah
[03:03] <Thehobo> Can you install Ubuntu from Windows on an usb drive and then boot from that drive?
[03:03] <jordan> ok i really need some help with a ubuntu and windows 7 dual boot
[03:03] <keithclark> Ok, have fun.
[03:04] <Thehobo> jordan, what is the problem?
[03:05] <keithclark> I have to say before I leav e that this used to  be the o/s to have and the one to cphjjome to for help.  Now, nothing....I have no issue with that as there are many more to ch
[03:05] <keithclark> chose from.  Like Mint.
[03:05] <Gaybar2000> !seen komrad
[03:05] <lestat__> bye
[03:05] <keithclark> Wow
[03:05] <cab938> escott, Well, this looks like a line that will install all openssh-server dependancies.  Does it look crazy to attempt?
[03:05] <cab938> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007503/
[03:06] <Harris> hi i added the cube under desktop in compiz and now when i go under workstation i cant click a window and move it to a different workstation
[03:06] <Gaybar2000> !seen arganat
[03:06] <jordan> OK, who is knows a lot about dual booting ubuntu with another OS?! Cause I really need some help!
[03:06] <escott> cab938, sure. if you just wanted to reinstall the entire os you might manage to do that with some dpkg commands
[03:06] <Gaybar2000> you better use a virtual machine today
[03:07] <roasted> Question - I'm trying to figure out a way to rotate some items on my system. I'm running Motion, which takes continual JPGs when motion is detected on the camera. I want to keep a feed for 7 days... I'm trying to figure out with bash scripts and cron how at midnight I can move today's files as "yesterday" but retain monday/tuesday/wednesday as thedirectory names...
[03:07] <OerHeks> jordan, just ask your real question and find out?
[03:07] <escott> roasted, use logrotate. it runs daily you just need to create a config for it
[03:07] <keithclark> So that is Ubuntu's last chance to help me?
[03:08] <Harris> hi i added the cube under desktop in compiz and now when i go under workstation i cant click a window and move it to a different workstation
[03:08] <xangua> !helpme | keithclark
[03:10] <keithclark> xangua, thanks...I needed something more than posting an automated bot response.  I can see what  Ubuntu has come to.  Enjoy the slide!
[03:10]  * Boohbah enjoys the slide
[03:10] <Boohbah> cool! it's a waterslide!
[03:10] <keithclark> See?
[03:11] <keithclark> No asking how to fix or help
[03:11] <keithclark> A joke
[03:11] <flank> hello
[03:12] <GeekSquid> keithclark: please ask a real question, instead of badmouthing us... it helps if you have a question that we can answer... I logged on recently of if you posted before I didn't see it, others may not have either... see !patience
[03:12] <jordan> OK, so I installed Ubuntu on a friends laptop. I created a dual boot with windows 7 and Ubuntu and gave both equal amounts of memory. Hes going to use Windows for gaming and Ubuntu for everything else. However, he later told me that he needs more memory on the Windows partition since games take up so much memory. I used google to try to see if I can give more memory to the Windows partition, but everything I found was too confusing for me to fol
[03:12] <jordan> low. So can an expert give me an easy to understand answer on how I would give more memory to windows?
[03:12] <flank> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[03:12] <flank> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[03:12] <keithclark> GeekSquid, I did\
[03:12] <sary> keithclark: Hi , for people to be able to assist you .. you need to state your issue in details.
[03:12] <sary> flank: !
[03:12] <xangua> Harris: how about you open compiz settings manager, Disable the Cube and Largedesktop plugins and then Enable Desktop Wall plugin
[03:12] <xtu> hi, is there any bbs software for ubuntu based on text, no gui.
[03:12] <flank> i know
[03:13] <GeekSquid> jordan: use gparted, shrink the ubuntu partition, and increase the size of the windows partition... this will need to be done from the live disk, you can't do it with ubuntu mounted
[03:14] <flank> what talk about?
[03:14] <GeekSquid> flank ... this is support for ubuntu... not really a chat channel
[03:15] <flank> ???
[03:15] <sary> flank: this a support channel .. you can chit-chat in #defocus , or #ubuntu-offtopic .
[03:15] <Thehobo> jordan, Gparted comes with the Ubuntu Live CD. Just boot from the live CD and run Gparted and shrink the Ubuntu partition like Geeksquid said (very easy and intuitive)
[03:15] <jordan> Ok, on Gparted, how will i be able to tell which partition is ubuntu and which is windows 7
[03:15] <Harris> oops xangua  i uninstalled compiz
[03:15] <Thehobo> jordan, It will say on it: Windows is the NTFS one, and the Ubuntu one is the ext4 (or ext3)
[03:16] <escott> jordan, they will be different types. windows is ntfs
[03:16] <Harris> xangua,  do i reinstall it
[03:16] <flank> how to change ip by term?
[03:17] <Harris> !terminal
[03:18] <xangua> Harris: you did what¿!
[03:18] <xangua> sure uninstalling X Y and Z is the solutin to evertything...
[03:18] <flank> how to change ip by terminal?
[03:19] <Harris> xangua,  i uninstalled the app thinking it would fix
[03:19] <escott> flank, unless you have a static ip you cant just change it. it has to be set at the router
[03:20] <jordan> i think my friends laptop has a two windows (ntfs) partitions (I think one is windows 7 and the other is the recovery partition) is there any way to tell which one is which
[03:20] <escott> jordan, the recovery will likely be smaller
[03:20] <flank> such as ip 192.168.0.1 mask255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1
[03:20] <escott> jordan, ther eis also traditionally a label
[03:20] <Sach> Working with libreoffice 3 in ubuntu 11.04. After a power failure, just opened a .doc and prompted to choose ASCII Filter Options. Why is this?
[03:22] <jordan> ok, and your sure this is possible? there shouldnt be any problems i run into?
[03:22] <roasted> escott, thanks!
[03:22] <GeekSquid> flank: you will need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:22] <escott> jordan, its not a bad idea to backup before resizing, but otherwise it should be safe. it will take a long time to shrink the partition because the data has to be moved
[03:23] <escott> roasted, ok? not sure how i helped but ok
[03:23] <jordan> Ok, well thanks!
[03:24] <Harris> xangua,  please help me i reinstalled it
[03:24] <roasted> escott, that was a delayed answer to you suggesting logrotate. Had to run the dog outside for a few mins so it took me a bit to come back and see you replied.
[03:24] <escott> roasted, ahh
[03:24] <roasted> escott, seems like logrotate is already installed, which I never knew existed. I'll have to look into it and see how to set it up.
[03:25] <escott> roasted, its pretty straightforward, just base it off the config for your other logs
[03:25] <xangua> Harris: aaah.... this should install all default packages: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <xisor> hi im having a problem with wubi, it will not run on my windows 7 machine, it starts to load then closes, no error messages no nothing
[03:25] <xangua> (21:13:16) Harris: should i uninstall compiz
[03:25] <xangua> (21:13:22) L3tops: no... that would definitely break everything - i just don't get why you did it....
[03:25] <roasted> escott, so I can apply logrotate to items that aren't... logs?
[03:25] <jordan> actually wait...i just downloaded gparted to take a look at partitions...what is extended, ext4, and linux-swap? Which one should I shrink to shrink Ubuntu?
[03:26] <Harris> xangua,  maybe
[03:26] <escott> roasted, its just files. why would logrotate care whats in them
[03:26] <xisor> can anyone help me?
[03:26] <roasted> escott, good point
[03:26] <Harris> xangua,  i really want the cube though
[03:27] <GeekSquid> jordan: grab a screenshot and post it to imgbin.org
[03:27] <escott> extended is a container to hold other partitions, but it does not itself contain any data. ext4 is your linux partition, linux-swap is linux related but does not contain data
[03:27] <xangua> Harris: you do not want the cube because it breaks unity
[03:28] <xisor> guess not....
[03:28] <xangua> !anyone | xisor
[03:28] <xisor> i already asked my question, got zero response from anyone at all
[03:28] <Studious> escott: when your computer is low on physical memory (ram) it uses swap (harddisk partition) as alternate
[03:28] <GeekSquid> !patience | xisor
[03:29] <xisor> i asked if someone can help me figure out why wubi wont run at all on this machine, it doesnt even spit out an error message or anything
[03:29] <xangua> xisor: and why use wubi¿ why don't give a chance to reall install¿
[03:29] <escott> Studious, i know what it is. just didnt want to go through it all because its not really related to jordans quesion
[03:29] <xisor> simple, id rather not have to go out and buy an optical drive to try ubuntu, and even if i did i have no free usb or sata ports to plug it into.
[03:29] <jordan> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=8177   and i am aware that they are currently mounted....im not actually going to shrink any now, im just getting a look at the partitions so i know EXACTLY what i need to do
[03:30] <flank> how to read ext4 in windows?
[03:30] <sary> Sach: no simple answer as to why is that .. you stated that this occurred after a power failure , so its common that the app got crached .. see if LibreOffice is set as the default app / right click on the .doc file and select Properties .
[03:31] <escott> jordan, one headache you will have is that extended partition. you can shrink the ext4 and then move it back so that there is blank space between the end of sda2 and the start of sda5, but you cannot expand the sda2 without shrinking the extended
[03:31] <GeekSquid> jordan: shrink /dev/sda5, then shrink,sda4 with the empty space at the beginning of the partition, then expand sda2
[03:31] <Harris> xangua,  but i have seen youtube videos of other ubuntu 12.04 users with it
[03:31] <Sach> sary: yes, libreoffice is set as the default app.  Also, the file size is 32kb, so there is definitely something there!
[03:32] <escott> jordan, a couple of approaches at that point would be to (a) take a backup of your partition table and then delete it, and recreate a new one that matches the current partition table exactly, but has the extended partition starting later
[03:32] <xangua> Harris: well then do as you wish and good luck...
[03:32] <escott> jordan, alternately you could use a tool like gdisk to convert the mbr table to a gpt table and then convert from gpt back to mbr setting the extended partition as desired
[03:32] <xisor> is there a wubi specific support channel?
[03:33] <Loshki> flank: Perhaps http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[03:33] <Harris> xangua,  i am going to give you the outcomes of the command you gave me where do i post it
[03:33] <sary> Sach: Ok , is the file extension labled as doc , or docx .
[03:33] <Sach> sary: .doc
[03:34] <jordan> this is why i get so confused...can you explain this to me in plain english (i really dont understand partitions all that much)...or mabye you could give me a link to a website that explains all this to me...
[03:34] <escott> Loshki, flank, ext4 is not suppored by ext2fsd AFAIK
[03:34] <jordan> what is an extended partition??
[03:35] <meraj> hi
[03:35] <Harris> xangua,  i am sending you a file with the outcomes of the code you gave me
[03:35] <Loshki> escott: ext4 support may be new (I've never used it). The web page clearly says "Open source ext3/4 file system driver for Windows"...
[03:35] <escott> jordan, start by shrinking sda5. the shrink will happen at the end of sda5 leaving blank space between sda5 and sda6. then move sda5 so that it lines up with sda6. now you have blank space inside sda4 (its that extended container)
[03:35] <meraj> can any one help me..my 3g dongle is nt working wit ubuntu..
[03:35] <sary> Sach: Alright , i've never truobleshoot liberoffice before for whatever reason .. lets see where can we look in next .
[03:36] <escott> jordan, then you would want to resize the extended partition (you shrunk the boxes inside the extended partition box so now you can shrink the extended partition box itself) but the tools might not let you do that
[03:36] <xisor> is there a wubi specific support channel?
[03:36] <Harris> xangua, http://pastebin.com/tyXPEezT
[03:37] <meraj> jonEdney: can u help me..i m nt able to use my 3g dongle in ubuntu.
[03:37] <arooni-mobile>  i was trying to reset my mysql root password; and shut down mysql with: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop.  now mysql is refusing to start;  i have already checked /var/log/messages ; /var/log/mysql but nothing shows up ...
[03:37] <escott> jordan, and so you might have to work around that, and the two ways are to backup the table and create a new one, or to convert from mbr->gpt->mbr
[03:37] <escott> jordan, i dont know if that makes any more sense
[03:38] <jordan> ok...im kinda getting it...but ill come back when im actually doing the shrinking...and just to clarify: i can add more memory to the windows partition, correct? sorry but i really like to double check with this stuff :/
[03:38] <eje211> I'm on Pangolin. I need to install libavcodec52 or libavcodec-extra-52 as a dependency but libavcodec53 is the only one available on Pangolin. What should I do?
[03:38] <escott> jordan, with a bit of work yes you can add disk space to sda2
[03:38] <meraj> escott: can u help me..i m nt able to use my 3g dongle wit ubuntu.
[03:38] <escott> jordan, we reserve the work memory for RAM not hard disk space
[03:38] <JonEdney> meraj, I'm unfortunately not familiar with the compatibility of that.
[03:39] <Harris> xangua,  please ANSWER ME
[03:39] <meraj> ok
[03:39] <OerHeks> Harris, check your post
[03:39] <btorch> hello I'm trying to setup pbuilder and playing around with it . I'm trying to create a more dense package than bc and I'm runnig into dependencies issue. what's the best way to include the dependency already on my base image ?
[03:39] <Harris> OerHeks,  what posts
[03:39] <btorch> I'm following this btw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[03:39] <meraj> xisor:can u help me..i m nt able to use my 3g dongle wit ubuntu.
[03:40] <OerHeks> Harris check your own pastebin. and keep up the attitude
[03:40] <eje211> I'm on Pangolin. I need to install libavcodec52 or libavcodec-extra-52 as a dependency but libavcodec53 is the only one available on Pangolin. What should I do?
[03:40] <xangua> !caps | Harris
[03:40] <Harris> OerHeks,  are you being sarcastic
[03:40] <jordan> work memory?
[03:40] <xangua> Harris: yes that's what i wrote¿ you wanted to confirm what i wrote¿ i don't get anything
[03:40] <OerHeks> Harris are you trolling this channel ?
[03:40] <meraj> jordan:can u help me..i m nt able to use my 3g dongle wit ubuntu
[03:41] <escott> !patience | meraj
[03:41] <xangua> !helpme | meraj
[03:41] <Harris> OerHeks,  what is trolling
[03:41] <xisor> can someone please help with with wubi?
[03:41] <Harris> xangua,  http://pastebin.com/y5Wn7LaZ
[03:42] <jordan> meraj, i dont know too much about wireless connections, but try me
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> xisor, maybe you have to ask the question, not for help.
[03:42] <xisor> i need help figuring out why the wubi application will not even run on this pc
[03:42] <xisor> it acts like its going to, then nothing happens at all
[03:43] <escott> xisor, this is after you installed wubi and try to boot into it?
[03:43] <Sach> sary: any suggestions/
[03:43] <xisor> no, i cannot even get that far, wubi itself will not load so i can install it
[03:43] <Harris> xangua,  this is the right outcome http://pastebin.com/y5Wn7LaZ
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> xisor, I would go to the ubuntu forums and have wubi in the thread header, and get the help from like the one helper there if you get no help here.
[03:43] <caesar_> is there a known issue with the file operations transfer status indicator?
[03:44] <xisor> so basically they make this thing and nobody uses or supports it?
[03:44] <sary> Sach: I guess creating a new profile for it might might show a difference .. or see if that window wont pop-up while logged in to a different user .. test this with the guest session .
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> xisor, it is just not real popular help is hit and miss, it is for trying out the OS in lieu of a prtitioned instal.
[03:44] <eje211> Hi. I have a dependency issue that apt and gdebi can't resolve on their own. I'm on Pangolin. I need to install libavcodec52 or libavcodec-extra-52 as a dependency but libavcodec53 is the only one available on Pangolin. What should I do? Mark the 52 verson as installed or force installation from source or another package?
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> *partitioned
[03:45] <caesar_> when i cut/copy a file say 300mb.. it jumps to 290mb transfered and sticks there until the tranfer is complete
[03:45] <escott> xisor, its not very popular with most people in the channel. i would recommend you do a regular install or that you use virtualbox
[03:45] <xisor> why would i be willing to do a "real" install if wubi wont even open? does not speak well to the usability of the OS, im trying to test it out, and i dont have an optical drive so this is my ONLY option
[03:45] <xisor> im not going to go buy a drive to test an OS that i may not like
[03:45] <xisor> especially if the windows based installer wont even run
[03:46] <xisor> i want a full speed test, virtualbox is far too slow and without native hardware feature support that my machine has, so it is not a viable test
[03:46] <sary> Sach: Yeah , am looking at something ..
[03:46] <jordan> escott: i have one more question: what did you mean by "work memory"?
[03:46] <Sach> sary: great.  much appreciated
[03:46] <escott> xisor, what about a liveusb? can you do a usb boot
[03:46] <Harris> http://pastebin.com/y5Wn7LaZ xangua
[03:46] <caesar_> anyone?
[03:47] <xisor> i do not know if my usb hdd enclosure allows booting via usb or not, and no idea how to set it up to do so
[03:47] <escott> jordan "word memory" not work memory my typo. we call hard disk space "disk space" or just "space" memory is RAM
[03:47] <xangua> Harris: so if there is nothing to install, you did not uninstall compiz¿
[03:47] <Harris> not yet i reinstalled it
[03:48] <xisor> i dont know why wubi doesnt work though, my machine isnt too old, the OS has been recently re installed clean, everythings working fine, except that
[03:48] <xangua> Harris: then why are you spinning around¿
[03:48] <jordan> escott: so what does that have to do with the partitions i showed you?
[03:48] <arooni-mobile> i'm not able to start mysql on ubuntu 10.04 lts;  mysql pre-start process (2655) terminated with status 1 ... any ideas on how to fix?  thanx!
[03:48] <Harris> what does spinning around mean
[03:48] <escott> jordan, you kept saying you wanted more memory. it was confusing. you wanted more disk space. thats all
[03:48] <sary> Sach: Try to reset LibreOffice user profile .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/136029/libreoffice-calc-background-fill-options-all-white
[03:50] <HACKhalo2> with the global menu, is there a way to configure it to ignore certian applications and display the menu bar the old fasion way?
[03:50] <jordan> escott: ok im sorry....im used to refering to diskspace as "memory" and word memory as "RAM" my mistake
[03:50] <soapee45> sup ppl
[03:50] <eje211> Hi. I have a dependency issue that apt and gdebi can't resolve on their own. I'm on Pangolin. I need to install libavcodec52 or libavcodec-extra-52 as a dependency but libavcodec53 is the only one available on Pangolin. What should I do? Mark the 52 verson as installed or force installation from source or another package? Is it part of some mysterious repository?
[03:51] <jordan> escott: well thanks a bunch for your help!
[03:51] <jrib> eje211: why do you believe you need 52?
[03:51] <xisor> does ubuntu directly offer support? or no?
[03:51] <xisor> since its clear nobody is willing to help me here
[03:52] <eje211> Because GDebi tells me it can't install my .deb without it.
[03:52] <eje211> jrib: Because GDebi tells me it can't install my .deb without it.
[03:52] <jrib> eje211: what .deb...?
[03:53] <eje211> Panda3D <pandda3d.org>
[03:53] <eje211> jrib: I mean, Panda3D <panda3d.org>
[03:53] <Sach> sary: /.config/libreoffice doesnt exist on my laptop.
[03:53] <JoFo> Hello everybody
[03:54] <pbx2> how do I install JRE 7u4?
[03:54] <pbx2> I downloaded the .tar.gz file and extracted it
[03:54] <pbx2> now what?
[03:54] <jrib> eje211: they seem to provide a maverick package.  Ask them about a precise package, or build one yourself
[03:55] <Harris> xangua,  thanks for starting A chat with me and then just quieting without finishing
[03:55] <Sach> sary: instead, in my home directory i can find /.libreoffice/3
[03:55] <eje211> jrib: Is there a guide on adding a self-build package to the deb tree? I'm afraid of breaking stuff.. Or is it safe to just build it?
[03:55] <jrib> eje211: what do you mean by "deb tree"?
[03:55] <jrib> !packaging | eje211
[03:55] <Harris>  join
[03:56] <eje211> jrib: If I build it, then dpkg won't know about it. Is the packaging guide about solving that?
[03:57] <jrib> eje211: I meant for you to build a deb package; yes the guide tells you how
[03:57] <eje211> jrib: I could build a deb before, but now I know it's the righ thing to do. Thanks. I feel a lot safer now.
[03:58] <jrib> eje211: you should also get in touch with the panda3d people.  Maybe you can help by contributing packages for more recent versions of ubuntu
[03:59] <Sach> sary: just tried it, but the document still opens the same way :(
[03:59] <Harris> xangua, please finish helping me
[04:00] <eje211> jrib: I think I actually work with them. (They're at Carnegie Mellon University, I'm at Carnegie Mellon University), so in addition to emailing, I'll ask around in person. But, yes, I'll definitely bring it up.
[04:00] <Harris> xangua, please finish helping me
[04:00] <Harris> xangua,  PLEASE
[04:01] <xangua> Harris: i think you need to clear your mind; you said you uninstalled compiz, and then you say you reinstalled it, the cube breaks compiz but you want the cube....stop spinning around
[04:02] <Harris> xangua, i need my workspaces fixed which compiz messed up
[04:04] <Harris>  OP <Harris>
[04:04] <OerHeks> Harris the answer is easy: uninstall the cube, it breaks unity.
[04:04] <Harris> i did
[04:05] <sary> Sach: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile#Resetting_the_User-Profile
[04:06] <Harris> how do i become an op
[04:07] <OerHeks> Harris, start your own irc channel, then you are op.
[04:08] <Harris> how do i start a channel
[04:08] <OerHeks> ask in #freenode :-)
[04:10] <Harris> xangua, i uninstalled it but the workspaces still dont let me drag windows to a different station
[04:12] <xangua> HarryS: so you uninstalled compiz and you expect unity to work¿
[04:12] <xangua> Harris: above
[04:12] <Harris> yes
[04:12] <arooni-mobile> i'm not able to start mysql on ubuntu 10.04 lts;  mysql pre-start process (2655) terminated with status 1 ... any ideas on how to fix?  thanx!
[04:15] <Harris> xangua,  what do i have to do to make unity work again
[04:16] <OerHeks> arooni-mobile, if this happened after upgrade, answer 27/30 could solve it >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/573318
[04:16] <arooni-mobile> OerHeks, i think its happening cuz i have 3megabytes free on disk
[04:18] <Sach> sary:  no luck  :( :(
[04:18] <OerHeks> arooni-mobile, sure you are not missing /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld  ?
[04:19] <Harris> xangua,  i am begging you please help me i want my computer fixed and i am extremly tired
[04:19] <Harris> can you please spend 15 minutes one on one with me please
[04:19] <Harris> at my channel
[04:21] <matelot> Is this how Nautilus' copy/move to supposed to work ??? : http://i.imgur.com/SixqI.png
[04:21] <matelot> Just "Home" ???
[04:21] <Orukusaki> Hello
[04:22] <venenoverde> yeah
[04:22] <arooni-mobile> OerHeks, it was cuz i didnt have more than 3M of space hahaha
[04:23] <OerHeks> arooni-mobile, oke, solved then.
[04:25] <sary> Sach: ok , hold up .
[04:25] <Sach> sary: will do
[04:25] <arooni-mobile> thanks OerHeks
[04:27] <Harris> in workststions i cant move windows to different workstations
[04:27] <Cerrdor> If I want to find out what my IP address is on intranet is ifconfig the best way to do it or is there another tool?
[04:27] <bazhang> Harris, you mean workplaces
[04:27] <Harris> bazhang,  workspaces
[04:28] <bazhang> Harris, this is unity 2d or 3d
[04:28] <venenoverde> how in the hell do i get a downloaded file sent to me from another user using andchat on adroid
[04:28] <Harris> i dont know
[04:28] <Harris> i am new
[04:28] <bazhang> venenoverde, ask in #android
[04:28] <bazhang> venenoverde, or check if there is an #andchat channel
[04:29] <bazhang> !alis | venenoverde
[04:29] <OerHeks> Cerrdor, " ifconfig " will do
[04:30] <Harris> bazhang,  how do i find out what i have it is ubuntu 12.04
[04:30] <venenoverde> ok will do
[04:30] <Harris> bazhang go to my channel
[04:30] <bazhang> Harris, what did you login as: unity-2d or something else. it's at the login window
[04:31] <bazhang> Harris, no. dont solicit your channel here.
[04:31] <Harris> let me log out and relogin
[04:31] <Harris> where do i look
[04:32] <bazhang> Harris, after you choose your user, then the choices will appear. choose one
[04:32] <Harris> is there a terminal code
[04:32] <sary> Sach: am trying to figure out te proper command to run liberoffice in termianl , so that you might be able to spot any error ..
[04:32] <Harris> for that
[04:32] <Harris> because i dont want to sign out
[04:32] <Sach> sary: thanks!
[04:33] <blackmatrix_ny> hello everyone...just installed 12.04 and my touchpad is not working...tried different suggestions on forums but nothing fixed...anybody know how to fix, i would gladly appreciate
[04:34] <manadys> blackmatrix_ny: you mean you installed Ubuntu on an HP TouchPad?
[04:34] <Harris> who was just helping me
[04:34] <blackmatrix_ny> manadys, its a samsung laptop
[04:34] <CoJaBo_> Ok, so DHCP is working fine, renewing the IP every few hours or so. That would be all fine and dandy, but this machine seems to have forgotten it is a server, and has a static IP set via /etc/network/interfaces - Why is this setting being ignored?
[04:35] <OerHeks> blackmatrix_ny, do you have a FN key and mouse key somewhere in the same colour as FN ?
[04:35] <CoJaBo_> .msg nickserv ghost cojabo
[04:35] <Harris> when i go to workspaces i cant drag a window to a different workspace
[04:35] <bazhang> CoJaBo_, /   a
[04:35] <bazhang> whoops
[04:35] <Harris> bazhang
[04:35] <Harris> is there a terminal code
[04:35] <bazhang> Harris, what is it, unity 2d 3d or what
[04:36] <Harris> i dont know it didnt says
[04:36] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, maybe you have network manager installed overriding your settings
[04:36] <Harris> i just typed in password
[04:36] <bazhang> Harris, sign out then back in and select one
[04:36] <Harris> what one should i click
[04:36] <blackmatrix_ny> OerHeks, i dont have that
[04:36] <bazhang> Harris, whichever one you want, I dont know the various DE you have installed
[04:37] <ddn> hello all, after last update on my 12.04 network manager is lost and no connectivity at all. what happened?
[04:37] <bazhang> ddn, the icon? in the indicator applet, or did you install wicd
[04:37] <sary> Sach: i tryied ti run in terminal .. libreoffice-writer .. but its the wrong command
[04:38] <ddn> bazhang: the icon, I just updated, no installations
[04:38] <Sach> sary: hmm...ok
[04:38] <bazhang> ddn, did you try re-adding it?
[04:38] <Harris> bazhang, it is ubuntu 2d
[04:38] <subhadip> I installed IE7 with winetricks, but it's crashing as soon as I'm launching the IE
[04:39] <ddn> bazhang: haven't, how can I do it?
[04:39] <bazhang> subhadip, check the appdb, then /join #winehq
[04:39] <bazhang> !appdb | subhadip
[04:39] <sary> Sach: Sach am looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice , and the Crashes section in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOfficeBugWrangling
[04:39] <Harris> bazhang, it is ubuntu 2d
[04:39] <Sach> Sary: ok
[04:39] <subhadip> Ok thanks
[04:39] <Sach> Sary: i'll have a look here too
[04:40] <bazhang> sary, what about tab completing the command in the terminal
[04:40] <CoJaBo> jgmdev: How do I check? This worked before, I recently swapped the mobo and the new NIC identifies as eth1 instead of eth0
[04:40] <CoJaBo> dhclient was running, i did a killall on that and nothing bad happened.. is it going to restart every boot, or was it just a leftover from when it was set to dynamic i wonder...
[04:40] <OerHeks> sary >> libreoffice --writer
[04:40] <Harris> bazhang,
[04:40] <bazhang> Harris, yes
[04:40] <Harris> it is ubuntu 2d
[04:41] <bazhang> Harris, and what is the exact problem
[04:41] <Cerrdor> whats the command I use in terminal if I want it to exit to another prompt ? Like if I sudo gedit something.file ^ and it will run gedit but it will exit to another prompt while running gedit?
[04:41] <Harris> i cannot drag a window in one space to another bazhang
[04:41] <sary> bazhang: thanks , haven't thought about that .
[04:41] <Harris> bazhang,  can we go in my channel
[04:42] <bazhang> Harris, no. don't ask users here to go to your channel. I've asked before, so don't do it again
[04:42] <Harris> ok
[04:42] <Harris> now how do i fix my channel
[04:42] <Harris> not channel workstation
[04:42] <bazhang> Harris, ask in #freenode not here
[04:43] <sary> OerHeks: thanks buddy , thats the right command Sach/ .. but then how to open a doc file with that command in terminal
[04:43] <Harris> not channnel my workspace problem
[04:43] <ddn> bazhang: forgot to say is Acer Aspire One netbook
[04:43] <Harris> i cannot drag a window in one space to another bazhang
[04:43] <manadys> Cerrdor: you probably want gsudo not sudo and if you append & it will fork the process to the background
[04:44] <sary> Sach: please state your issue again , so that others know about it.
[04:44] <manadys> i think it's gsudo, not sure, but I think doing sudo gedit /etc/file & will fork before you can authenticate with sudo...
[04:44] <blackmatrix_ny> anybody know where to configure the synaptics touchpad ?
[04:44] <OerHeks> manadys, gksudo
[04:44] <Sach> sary: will do.
[04:44] <Harris> bazhang,  how do i fix it
[04:44] <Sach> Working with libreoffice 3 in ubuntu 11.04. After a power failure, just opened a .doc and prompted to choose ASCII Filter Options. Why is this?
[04:44] <bazhang> manadys, did you mean gksudo?
[04:45] <manadys> apparently
[04:45] <bazhang> Harris, ask the channel here, if someone knows they will answer. be patient
[04:45] <manadys> I don't use a gui so I don't typically have to worry about those things
[04:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jgmdev: How do I check? This worked before, I recently swapped the mobo and the new NIC identifies as eth1 instead of eth0
[04:45] <Harris> !patience
[04:45] <Cerrdor> manadys, awesome thanks
[04:45] <Harris> i cannot drag a window in one space to another
[04:45]  * manadys simply automates things because the unix admin is too lazy to...
[04:46] <Harris> does anyone know how to fix this i cannot drag a window in one space to another bazhang
[04:46] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, did you updated the interfaces file to configure eth1 instead of eth0?
[04:46] <OerHeks> Sach, damaged document, you better do a filecheck > touch /forcefcsk  ( and reboot to let filecheck run at boot )
[04:46] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jgmdev: Yeh, /etc/network/interfaces, as it said.
[04:46] <sary> Sach: Right , and liberoffice is set to default .. and please aslo mention what other steps you tried . thanks
[04:47] <blackmatrix_ny> anybody know where to configure the synaptics touchpad ?
[04:47] <Harris>  does anyone know how to fix this i cannot drag a window in one space to another
[04:47] <Harris> blackmatrix_ny,  download the driver
[04:47] <jgmdev> does /etc/resolv.conf is manually set?
[04:47] <manadys> we ask our UNIX admin to document the process of verifying a servers integrity... he gives us a 12 page document he spent a week building. I took one look at it and spent 45 minutes writing a script to do all the checks and email the results.
[04:47] <Sach> 0erHeks: so from terminal, i need to type touch/forcefcsk   ?
[04:48] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jgmdev: That file just says it was generated by NetworkManager
[04:48] <Harris>  does anyone know how to fix this i cannot drag a window in one space to another
[04:48] <jgmdev>  I had some problems on the past because network manager was overriding my manual changes
[04:48] <Sach> OerHeks: so from terminal, i need to type touch/forcefcsk   ?
[04:48] <jgmdev> I resolved it by uninstalling network manager
[04:48] <OerHeks> Sach yes, it will make an empty file forcefcsk, to trigger filecheck at boot
[04:48] <blackmatrix_ny> Harris...thanks, atleast some direction was helpful
[04:49] <Sach> OerHeks:  ok, I will do that.  Once I reboot, what should I do?  Try to reopen the file?
[04:50] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, are you running the server with desktop environment or accesing it thru ssh?
[04:50] <sary> Sach: Wait , did this issue occurred before , I mean is this he first time you tried to open the doc file with liberoffice in ubuntu !
[04:50] <OerHeks> Sach, after filecheck, desktop will load and hopefully the file is repaired.
[04:50] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jgmdev: Desktop now, but there is no networking gui
[04:50] <Sach> sary: no, it's not the first time.  I've been working on the document all day.
[04:50] <OerHeks> sary, powerfailure caused this issue
[04:50] <sary> Sach: Ahh , okay.
[04:50] <OerHeks> i hope the hdd is not damaged
[04:51] <Harris>  does anyone know how to fix this i cannot drag a window in one space to another
[04:51] <sary> OerHeks: clearly .
[04:51] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, dpkg -l | grep network-manager
[04:51] <bazhang> !repeat | Harris
[04:51] <sary> file system check is needed for sure .
[04:51] <Harris>  does anyone know how to fix this i cannot drag a window in one space to another
[04:52] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jgmdev: Its installed and running; stopping it kills DNS resolution
[04:52] <Sach> sary:  going to run the file system check now so will reboot.  thankks for your help. you've been great.
[04:52] <carpi> could someone please tell me the syntax to save "overscan compensation" for my 2nd flat panel monitor in the xorg.conf file?
[04:52] <sary> Harris: Hi , which ubuntu version you're running and what window manager is in used .
[04:53] <carpi> There is a line that mentions something about DFP-1 in my xorg.conf file. should i simply edit that line?
[04:53] <sary> Sach: Good idea , i hope things goes well .. please report back here . :)
[04:53] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, you can use dhclient adapter to get that information automatically
[04:53] <Sach> OerHeks: running touch/forcefcsk in terminal produces    "bash: touch/forcefcsk: No such file or directory"
[04:54] <carpi> i have 2 flap panel monitors.. DFP-0 and DFP-1 and I would like to create a line for overscan compensation for DFP-1. Could someone please tell me how I might do that?
[04:54] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, you can add code to /etc/rc.local that setups network interface on startup
[04:54] <pinebei> hi. my cursor keeps switching between two themes. does anyone know how i can stop it from doing this?
[04:55] <carpi> i believe this line should be put in xorg.conf
[04:55] <Harris> bazhang,  when i go to ubuntu not 2d or 3d workspace works
[04:55] <OerHeks> Sach, my bad, need 1 space > touch /forcefcsk
[04:55] <diverdude> My computer  (Lenovo w520) gets extremely hot when using ubuntu. Not when using windows. Is there some problem?
[04:55] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, like ifconfig eth1 up, dhclient eth1
[04:55] <Harris> but when i go into 2d it doesnt bazhang
[04:55] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-Aztec, but you would need to configure everything by hand
[04:55] <bazhang> Harris, dont repeat every two seconds. if no one knows that wont get a faster answer
[04:56] <Sach> OerHeks:  it produces  "touch: cannot touch `/forcefcsk': Permission denied"   Do I need to precede the command with "sudo"?
[04:56] <sary> Sach: if as a single user mode  , YES , if as root NO .
[04:56] <carpi> anyone?
[04:57] <CoJaBo-A1tec> K, I think I got it, had to manually set /etc/resolve.conf.. Don't remember having to do that last time..
[04:57] <OerHeks> no need for sudo, AFAIK
[04:57] <blackmatrix_ny> Harris...thanks, atleast some direction was helpful
[04:57] <CoJaBo-A1tec> Can I disable NetworkManager from starting on bootup without uninstalling it?
[04:57] <blackmatrix_ny> Harris...thanks, atleast some direction was helpful
[04:58] <diverdude> My computer  (Lenovo w520) gets extremely hot when using ubuntu. Not when using windows. Is there some problem?
[04:58] <sary> Harris: See , i think the problem is that you still need to learn about the system before going on teaking things in it .
[04:58] <sary> diverdude: Does the fan runs under ubuntu !
[04:58] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-A1tec, you can try wicd instead
[04:59] <diverdude> sary: im not sure
[04:59] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-A1tec, or add the dns servers manually on the network manager so it doesnt tries to get new ones
[04:59] <diverdude> sary: i dont think so
[04:59] <diverdude> sary: how would i start them?
[04:59] <bazhang> jgmdev, installing wicd removed nm last I checked
[04:59] <CoJaBo-A1tec> jgmdev: I stopped it and everything seems to work now; I don't want to uninstall anything, just disable it in case something breaks next boot ands I need it.
[05:00] <sary> diverdude: you boot to Ubuntu and see if the fan run .
[05:00] <pinebei> does anyone know where the cursor theme is stored?
[05:00] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-A1tec, yah disabling network manager should also work
[05:01] <diverdude> sary: i am in ubuntu right now...but i dont know if the noise i hear is the fan
[05:01] <Sach> OerHeks: I ran the command and rebooted.  However, the laptop rebooted as normal without any indication of having done a scan.  Tried to open the file, and same situation.
[05:01] <blackmatrix_ny> ahhhhh now updating caused alt+tab not to work...why is 12.04 so bugyyyy....this really SUCKS
[05:02] <CoJaBo-A1tec> jgmdev: I disabled it, I wanted to stop it loading on boot- i think this is the right way, right? http://www.unixtutorial.org/2009/01/disable-service-startup-in-ubuntu/
[05:02] <blackmatrix_ny> the keyboard was the only thing I had going for me and now that handicap has been added...
[05:02] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-A1tec, sure
[05:03] <CoJaBo-A1tec> dhclient is no longer running, so thats a good sign.. Thanks, I won't know for a few hours if it does it again, but I don't think it can heh..
[05:03] <jgmdev> CoJaBo-A1tec, ahh but remember that now ubuntu uses upstart
[05:03] <blackmatrix_ny> anybody know how to enable touchpad...it was working on the demo but after full install it no longer works
[05:03] <sary> diverdude: try to determine if the fan is running at all under ubuntu .. week ago someone had a similar issue with a different laptop bu he/she did not stated if the fun was running under Ubuntu .
[05:03] <CoJaBo> jgmdev: This is a rather old version, pre upstart
[05:03] <Cerrdor> in the bind9 configuration if my gateway is 10.0.2.x would I change this:    type master;
[05:03] <Cerrdor>    file "/etc/bind/zones/rev.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa"; to    type master;
[05:03] <Cerrdor>    file "/etc/bind/zones/rev.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa";?
[05:03] <Cerrdor> Oh snappp
[05:04] <Cerrdor> I shoulda pastebin that sorry
[05:04] <linda> while compiling marble package, it throws the following error - dh_makeshlibs: dpkg-gensymbols -plibmarblewidget12 -Idebian/libmarblewidget12.symbols.i386 -Pdebian/libmarblewidget12 returned exit code 1
[05:04] <CoJaBo> jgmdev: I tried updating, but upstart at the time was unbelievably broken, so I rolled back lol...
[05:04] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, there is also rcconf
[05:04] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, rcconf is a cli gui utility to disable/enable services
[05:05] <CoJaBo> As long as its dead, that should be good- I just want to keep it around in case the static config explodes next reboot and I need *something* that can connect me to the net without googling which I wouldn't be able to do :P
[05:06] <blackmatrix_ny> UBUNTU...make that goddam 10.04 link easily findable and stop pushing this fucking buggy 12.04 on our face
[05:06] <jgmdev> usually a ifconfig eth0 up, and dhclient eth0 should get you online :)
[05:06] <bazhang> blackmatrix_ny, no cursing here
[05:06] <CoJaBo> jgmdev: lol.. The thing nearly gave me a heart attack when my ssh shells died tho- 2 solid days to troubleshoot, discover the mobo was bad, then rebuild the whole, and I thought it had crashed O_O
[05:07] <blackmatrix_ny> bazhang, i dont care anymore...Ubuntu is starting to act like fucking windows
[05:07] <CoJaBo> In the middle of which, a pipe burst, causing this emergency to be interrupted by another -_-'
[05:07] <Sach> OerHeks:  any other ideas?
[05:07] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, you should write down does commands I wrote
[05:07] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, in case network manager doesnt works :D
[05:08] <CoJaBo> ifconfig at least I have memorized- use that all the time :P
[05:09] <jgmdev> and dhclient adaptername to automatically get ip info
[05:09] <sary> diverdude: if the fun isn't running , this is bad and dangerous as it might and very likely to damage the cpu and motherboard .
[05:09] <Sach> sary:  The file size is 32kb, so the info is definitely still there, right?
[05:09] <jagginess> sary, /fan/fun
[05:10] <CoJaBo> lol, I have a laptop with a broken fan :/
[05:10] <diverdude> sary: how do i start it
[05:10] <CoJaBo> It gets real hot unless I sit it on its side when i leave it..
[05:11] <sary> jagginess: did i made a ty-po ! :)
[05:11] <sary> diverdude: start what exactly ..
[05:11] <diverdude> sardonyx: the fan
[05:12] <sary> Sach: it should , i hope so ..
[05:12] <jagginess> diverdude, if the fan never turns on-- and you tried different linux live cds too, then it'll be wise to consider finding out why..
[05:13] <night_> oh yes
[05:13] <night_> who can help me
[05:13] <bazhang> night_, ask a real question
[05:13] <CoJaBo> jgmdev: the fun part is trying to get wpa_supplicant working on a USB wifi adaptor with buggy drivers LOL - Very bad when it fails when its controlling a $5,000 robot o_O
[05:14] <sary> diverdude: the fan should run , if not then all i can tink of is to set the proper kernal boot option for it to run.
[05:14] <night_> there is noboday use kubuntu???
[05:14] <bazhang> night_, sure there are. whats the real question
[05:14] <Sach> sary:  I dont know what else to do :(  :(
[05:15] <night_> i can't install input-bar
[05:15] <CoJaBo> night_: I use it on most of mine..
[05:15] <bazhang> night_, how did you try to install it, and from where, what errors did you get, pastebin them
[05:15] <sary> Sach: what was the result of the fsck ..
[05:15] <bazhang> !paste | night_
[05:16] <night_> i install it by software center
[05:16] <Sach> sary: it did the scan on reboot.  once it completed, it prompted me to log in as per usual.  no sign of the results of the fsck.
[05:16] <night_> i don't know what happend
[05:17] <night_> everything looks like well with no error
[05:18] <night_> my english not every well
[05:18] <CoJaBo> night_: If you have trouble with the GUI, theres always apt-get; unfortunately, the Kubuntu gui installer has always tended to suck :/
[05:20] <night_> .....
[05:20] <night_> ok
[05:20] <EliahKagan> Kubuntu can also be installed from the Kubuntu alternate CD, if the GUI installer isn't working well
[05:20] <sary> Sach: ok, i'd try to purge liberoffice , and install it again .. and in the same time file a bug as mentioned in the wiki , also better to ask a support question in askubuntu.com and on launchpad qestions section .
[05:20] <night_> i need luck
[05:20] <arta> how are guyyy
[05:20] <question_guy> hello
[05:20] <_nix_> hey
[05:20] <EliahKagan> hi question_guy
[05:20] <question_guy> :)
[05:20] <question_guy> proud to say im trying to quit my addiction to windows.
[05:20] <killer> hi ...i m trying to compile supertuxkart...but error is there......the mailing list suggested me to upgrade irrlicht to trunk revision 4099...can u help me how to do this in ubuntu
[05:21] <CoJaBo> question_guy: Well, the first step is admitting it :P
[05:21] <question_guy> :D
[05:21] <EliahKagan> killer: is it possible for you to post a link to the relevant post/thread in the mailing list archives?
[05:22] <CoJaBo> I switched to Kubuntu after thw whole Vista fiasco... Never looked back.
[05:22] <sary> Sach: its easy and simple to creat accoutns in both askubuntu.com and launchpad.net
[05:23] <EliahKagan> Sach: indeed -- you can even use your launchpad.net account to authenticate with AskUbuntu.com
[05:23] <CoJaBo> lol, I only have 2 copies of Win XP running, in virtual machines- one to run *just* a printer, the other to run *just* IE6 -_-'
[05:23] <psych> Question all: I have a minimal precise installation with lightdm installed. XBMC is running on top of it and I have it set to put the display to sleep after a few minutes idle. When it comes back, it asks me for a password. How can I disable this?
[05:23] <question_guy> So my whole process has been somewhat incremental. I'm using ubuntu on an external drive and windows on an internal drive. Everytime I install ubuntu. I disconnect my internal drive first. As to not overwrite the mbr. The problem is.... most of the time... I get a grub rescue prompt everytime I do that..
[05:23] <q_> hi
[05:23] <psych> I assume its lightdm asking for a password but I can't seem to tell it to stop
[05:23] <EliahKagan> killer: i ask mainly because 4162 is the latest build of irrlicht and it might be better (and is also easier) to use that if there is no specific reason to use 4099
[05:24] <EliahKagan> hi q_
[05:24] <q_> i am newer to ubuntu
[05:25] <EliahKagan> question_guy: you can configure GRUB2 to not write to the MBR of the first drive -- you can do that config during installation or afterwards (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 or feel free to ask here if that's not helpful enough)
[05:25] <killer> EliahKagan : in the reply i got they specified me not to use the latest one but only to use 4099
[05:25] <sary> Welcome aboard q_ , this is ubuntu support channel .
[05:25] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, I have a usb wifi adapter ralnk I use iwpriv to configure it for exmple: iwpriv ra0 set SSID=networkname etc...
[05:25] <EliahKagan> killer: ah ok
[05:26] <night_> kubuntub is dieing????
[05:26] <CoJaBo> jgmdev: These had terrible support, but I needed to use them cuz the auth was tied to the MAC address..
[05:26] <EliahKagan> well let's see if i can find the svn server
[05:26] <CoJaBo> The other wifi i had didnt support changing its MAC wither
[05:26] <bazhang> night_, no
[05:26] <CoJaBo> either*
[05:26] <question_guy> thank you for the reply Eliah.
[05:26] <jgmdev> CoJaBo, mmm usually wireless adapter drivers suck :D
[05:27] <question_guy> I'll to my best to review that link.
[05:27] <bazhang> night_, if you wish to just chit chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:27] <CoJaBo> INDEED -_-'
[05:27] <night_> bazhang: ok thank you
[05:27] <CoJaBo> night_: iTS NOT DIEING, JUST GETTING ANOTHER MAINTAINER.
[05:28] <Guest76295> hello
[05:28] <bazhang> augh caps
[05:28] <CoJaBo> why wS CAPSLOCK ON
[05:28] <Guest76295> you ren ma ?
[05:28] <CoJaBo> Oh wtf.
[05:28] <bazhang> Guest76295, #ubuntu-cn
[05:28] <CoJaBo> I should just pry that fricking key off -_-'
[05:28] <jgmdev> good night/day everyone im heading to the twilight zone :D
[05:28] <blackmatrix_ny> bazhang, hey men try helping out instead of kicking already frustrated people
[05:29] <bazhang> blackmatrix_ny, this is not the rant channel. there is no cursing. if you wish help then follow the channel rules.
[05:29] <siloxid> hi! how do I determine which version of ubuntu I'm running?
[05:29] <bazhang> !version | siloxid
[05:30] <siloxid> I'm running ubuntu lucid - how do I get the name of the graphic card I have installed?
[05:30] <CoJaBo> Huh. I've always done cat /etc/issue
[05:30] <blackmatrix_ny> bazhang, I followed the rule for the past 4 hours and no ops would even bother to help
[05:30] <bazhang> siloxid, try lspci in terminal
[05:31] <siloxid> thanks
[05:31] <bazhang> blackmatrix_ny, we are volunteers. sometimes answers are forthcoming, sometimes not
[05:34] <sary> blackmatrix_ny: bazhang is acting as a 'catalyst' .. we should all act the same .
[05:34] <blackmatrix_ny> bazhang,  the ubuntu site has next to nothing on how to go about configuring touchpad it keeps on insisting about help on the irc channel...atleast document this shit well so as we can self help
[05:34] <q_> hi
[05:35] <sary> and yes , its all volunteering here .
[05:35] <sary> blackmatrix_ny: have you looked at the wiki's .
[05:36] <left> Hello
[05:36] <sary> Hye
[05:36] <blackmatrix_ny> sary, I did and googled that site for the past hour...it's BS
[05:36] <sary> Hey
[05:36] <sary> Err,
[05:36] <left> haha
[05:37] <left> I from China
[05:37] <left> You?
[05:37] <blackmatrix_ny> atleast let me air some steam out here and I'm not even insulting anyone
[05:37] <blackmatrix_ny> wasting my friday trying to get a touchpad working was not how I envisioned my night
[05:37] <sary> blackmatrix_ny: how about this one .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[05:38] <q_> hi left
[05:38] <left> ?
[05:38] <q_> i also from chian
[05:38] <q_> china
[05:38] <blackmatrix_ny> i saw it...it can't even detect it to begin with
[05:39] <left> Realy?
[05:39] <q_> 是的
[05:39] <sary> Hi left welcome , this Ubuntu support channel .. if you wanna chat you are welcome to /join #ubuntu-offtopic .
[05:39] <left> 哦
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> !cn
[05:39] <sary> just in time wilee-nilee  :)
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> sary, If I only understood
[05:42] <sary> blackmatrix_ny: what's the laptop model and make if known.
[05:45] <Banan^> hi guys - so after ubuntu 12.04 my raid 1 is lost - I see the raid in the hw controller bios just fine, and I can see the drives using the fdisk command .. I'm guessing I need to mount it or something - any ideas?
[05:46] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[05:46] <kanuha> Does the ATI driver work with 12.04?
[05:47] <blackmatrix_ny> samsug np900x4b
[05:47] <Chuck_Norris> kanuha: ye
[05:47] <Gaybar2000> i need to eat a soap
[05:47] <Chuck_Norris> kanuha: the only thing you have to do is activate it from "Aditional Drivers" that's all
[05:47] <bazhang> Gaybar2000, wrong channel stop
[05:48] <kanuha> Chuck_Norris, do I install the post release version or the other one?
[05:48] <Gaybar2000> sorry bazhang san
[05:48] <Chuck_Norris> kanuha: that way, you will install an already patched driver from canonical
[05:48] <Chuck_Norris> the other one
[05:48] <kanuha> Chuck_Norris, thx I'll give it a go
[05:49] <Chuck_Norris> ok np
[05:49] <xisorshadow> hi i have no sound and need help fixing it
[05:50] <blackmatrix_ny> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[05:50] <bazhang> !sound | xisorshadow
[05:50] <xisorshadow> im on lubuntu, so im not sure if that applies to me
[05:50] <xisorshadow> i got next to nothing on here lol :P
[05:50] <bazhang> xisorshadow, sure it does
[05:51] <xisorshadow> looking
[05:52] <xisorshadow> lists 2 devices, i think its trying to use the hdmi rather than the analog
[05:52] <xisorshadow> is there a way to switch it?
[05:53] <xisorshadow> bazhang?
[05:53] <bazhang> xisorshadow, with padevchooser, pavucontrol or what
[05:54] <xisorshadow> it listed both hdmi and analog when i aplay -l it
[05:54] <xisorshadow> how do i make it so it ONLY uses the analog output?
[05:54] <xisorshadow> and never uses hdmi audio?
[05:54] <xisorshadow> i think its using hdmi audio and thats why i have no sound
[05:54] <blackmatrix_ny> egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices
[05:55] <blackmatrix_ny> shit returns nothing
[05:55] <Chuck_Norris> xisorshadow: click on audio icon top right corner
[05:55] <bazhang> blackmatrix_ny, stop cursing. last warning.
[05:55] <blackmatrix_ny> bazhang, what ?
[05:55] <Chuck_Norris> then "Sound Settings"
[05:55] <xisorshadow> i dont have any icons in the top right corner, im not using gnome, not using kde either
[05:55] <bazhang> blackmatrix_ny, no more cursing here. you have been told many times.
[05:55] <xisorshadow> this is lubuntu
[05:56] <Chuck_Norris> oh! mmm... LXDE?
[05:56] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[05:56] <bazhang> xisorshadow, so install those packages
[05:56] <blackmatrix_ny> =kljdf[]
[05:56] <xisorshadow> not 100% sure, this is a custom distro xbmcbuntu, its basically xbmc as the default, with whatever lubuntu uses behind it, boots into xbmc by default
[05:56] <Chuck_Norris> so, we need the command that show up the soud's preferences
[05:56] <xisorshadow> very lightweight
[05:57] <xisorshadow> ok
[05:57] <Banan^> !dk
[05:57] <xisorshadow> 11.04 if that makes much difference
[05:57] <xisorshadow> not 12
[05:57] <blackmatrix_ny> what is the wrong with touchpad
[05:57] <xisorshadow> or 11.10, its not 12.04
[05:57] <bazhang> not really
[05:57] <blackmatrix_ny> no help
[05:57] <blackmatrix_ny> come on
[05:57] <blackmatrix_ny> i need one
[05:57] <FloodBot1> blackmatrix_ny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <xisorshadow> i have synaptic open, what package did you say i needed?
[06:00] <xisorshadow> yes its LXDE according to the xbmc wiki
[06:00] <killer> hi guys..is there a way to check yahoo mail without browser....
[06:00] <xisorshadow> Chuck_Norris , are you still there?
[06:00] <Gaybar2000> yes
[06:01] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[06:01] <Gaybar2000> you can log in with smtp
[06:01] <xisorshadow> its LXDE according to the xbmc wiki
[06:01] <Chuck_Norris> but i dont find the command xD
[06:01] <Gaybar2000> using telnet
[06:01] <xisorshadow> oh
[06:01] <xisorshadow> =/
[06:01] <xisorshadow> so what do i do?
[06:01] <Chuck_Norris> but you can't find the sound preferences?
[06:01] <blackmatrix_ny> FUCK THIS SHIT MAN...kick me out of your party dude, Im not getting served anyways...whatever
[06:03] <Banan^> so after ubuntu upgrade to 12.04 my raid 1 is lost - I see the raid in the hw controller bios just fine, and I can see the drives using the fdisk command .. I'm guessing I need to mount it or something - any ideas?
[06:03] <Gaybar2000> banan well
[06:03] <xisorshadow> chuck_norris , no there are no preferences of any kind that i can find
[06:03] <Gaybar2000> banana do you use mdadm or bios raid?
[06:04] <Chuck_Norris> sry
[06:04] <Chuck_Norris> gotta go
[06:05] <xisorshadow> ok so... im out of luck the
[06:05] <xisorshadow> n
[06:05] <Gaybar2000> is there a basic translator for GWBasic on ubuntu?
[06:05] <Banan^> Gaybar2000: what is mdadm raid?
[06:06] <Gaybar2000> banan a sw raid
[06:06] <Banan^> it's a hardware controller PCI card, two disk attached to it
[06:06] <Gaybar2000> pastebin your fstab
[06:07] <Banan^> uhm .. just lost my vnc connection to the box
[06:07] <Banan^> fstab was an unknown command?
[06:08] <Gaybar2000> fstab is a text file located in /etc/fstab
[06:08] <Gaybar2000> just open a terminal and type cat /etc/fstab copy and paste the content of this file to pastebin
[06:09] <q_> join #ubuntu-cn
[06:10] <xisorshadow> so nobody can help me with my sound? =/
[06:10] <Gaybar2000> xisorshadow: i can help you xisorshadow san
[06:10] <xisorshadow> ok
[06:11] <xisorshadow> im running lxde, and i have no sound, aplay shows both the analog and the hdmi device
[06:11] <Gaybar2000> you have no sound? fascinating
[06:11] <Banan^> Gaybar2000 -- getting a connection refused from my vnc viewer all of a sudden, this suddenly became a project without a monitor =D
[06:11] <xisorshadow> im trying to get sound out of my laptops built in speakers
[06:11] <xisorshadow> and i have no idea what im doing
[06:11] <bazhang> xisorshadow, and the pavucontrol , padevchooser packages? did you install them?
[06:11] <Gaybar2000> banan try to connect with ssh if you can and install x11vnc, then run x11vnc on the ssh shell and connect from your host
[06:12] <xisorshadow> no, i asked which packages and you never replied earlier, getting them now
[06:12] <bazhang> xisorshadow, step one is open terminal and type alsamixer , make sure nothing is muted
[06:12] <bazhang> xisorshadow, you used my nick in your reply?
[06:12] <Banan^> yeah, that'll be another time - thanks for the heads up though, I'll try again later :)
[06:12] <Banan^> have a nice weekend guys
[06:12] <xisorshadow> no... didnt know i had to >.<
[06:13] <bazhang> xisorshadow, like I use your nick everytime?
[06:13] <bazhang> xisorshadow, you dont. but I wont see the message, so your choice
[06:13] <Gaybar2000> xisorshadow: type aplay -L
[06:14] <xisorshadow> bazhang, ok i got pavucontrol, padevchooser isnt a known package according to synaptic
[06:15] <xisorshadow> alsamixer doesnt show anything muted as far as i can see
[06:15] <robotdevil> Hi I have a logitech mx5500 http://www.gizmag.com/logitech-mx-5500-revolution-bluetooth-keyboard/8647/  I was wondring how to setup some of the special buttons, some work already.
[06:16] <Gaybar2000> i eat some ginger to get better in english talk
[06:17] <Gaybar2000> hello dido
[06:17] <Gaybar2000> come away with me
[06:18] <xisorshadow> bazhang: i was able to get sound using pulse audio to disable the hdmi, let me reboot and see if it sticks :D
[06:18] <Gaybar2000> mr bazhang are you a ubuntu worker?
[06:18] <Gaybar2000> bazhang: because you are like 24/7 here
[06:18] <bazhang> Gaybar2000, we are all volunteers here
[06:19] <bazhang> Gaybar2000, if you wish to chat, lets move to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:19] <Gaybar2000> please add a paypal account to donate for instant support
[06:20] <xisorshadow> bazhang: be right back ok? im going to restart and see if it keeps it working as default
[06:20] <Gaybar2000> im a oldunreal player and donated a lot
[06:21] <bazhang> !ot | Gaybar2000
[06:22] <robotdevil> If I use multiple mice and try to set imwheel with it mess up other mice?
[06:25] <thanmustoki> hello anybody can help me?
[06:25] <xisorshadow> bazhang: it works! now to figure out how to make the default environment xbmc instead of lxde again....
[06:25] <xisorshadow> dont suppose you know enough about lxde to help with that?
[06:26] <thanmustoki> tool for converting audio and video like total video converter in ubuntu
[06:26] <bazhang> xisorshadow, choose at login window?
[06:26] <thanmustoki> what its name
[06:26] <xisorshadow> it auto logs me in
[06:26] <bazhang> thanmustoki, handbrake
[06:26] <xisorshadow> bazhang: i need to change that to get to the login window i think?
[06:26] <bazhang> xisorshadow, yep
[06:26] <xisorshadow> bazhang: how?
[06:27] <thanmustoki> oke, thank you bazhang
[06:27] <bazhang> xisorshadow, type your nick, then select from login window
[06:27] <xisorshadow> bazhang: XD im a linux noob, i just needed something uber lightweight for my media center, and windows aint it
[06:27] <xisorshadow> bazhang: how do i get to the login window? it logs me in on its own, the login screen never appears
[06:28] <bazhang> xisorshadow, I'm not familiar enough with lxde on that, perhaps try #lubuntu
[06:29] <xisorshadow> bazhang: ok, thanks
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> xisorshadow, I beleive there is a user accounts in lubuntu as well.
[06:29] <bazhang> users and groups iirc
[06:29] <bazhang> not sure where to access that in lubuntu/lxde though
[06:29] <robotdevil> imwheel keeps crashing
[06:30] <wilx> Hi.
[06:31] <wilx> Is there a package repository with GCC 4.8 packages?
[06:31] <xisorshadow> bazhang: do you know how to make a program run every bootup automatically? if i can do that then i dont need to change the environment, just have xbmc auto run
[06:32] <bazhang> wilx, why would you need that
[06:35] <Guest69146> hi!
[06:40] <bonez2046> I get this error, when trying to print > Idle - "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed"
[06:40] <bonez2046> how can I resolve this?
[06:41] <robotdevil> how to make a program only show on one screen instead of across both (twinview)
[06:41] <robotdevil> when in full screen
[06:50] <flowerpot> I just checked the crontab for every user on my machine - Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - no user has a crontab.  Is this for real?  How does Ubuntu do things on a regular basis...?  Is everything being handled by Upstart?
[06:50] <robotdevil> this is a support channel right
[06:50] <[R]> flowerpot: what?
[06:51] <flowerpot> [R], I expected that somewhere, a user would have a crontab to do things on a regular basis, like rotate logs
[06:51] <[R]> robotdevil: irc supports a TOPIC command for a reason...
[06:51] <flowerpot> but not even root has a crontab
[06:51] <[R]> flowerpot: system crons are covered in /etc/crontab
[06:51] <nanobolic> robotdevil, in the system settings click on displays and untick mirror displays
[06:52] <flowerpot> Ohhhh
[06:52] <robotdevil> nanobolic: thanks
[06:53] <robotdevil> nanobolic: now what for kde I have both installed
[06:53] <flowerpot> [R], thanks, I didn't realize.
[06:54] <flowerpot> I see that /etc/crontab exists and has stuff in it.
[06:55] <motherbrain> ok I have reasonly download google chrome os both the usb and virtual machine version of them. I have tried running th vdi HDD image on my virtual box after setting the PAE check box it seems to boot and it looks like is accessing the HDD icon but its not fully loaded . IS 1GB enough to allocate for this ?
[06:55] <Sailorr> http://www.cam4.com/crystalbliss
[06:55] <Sailorr> hot girl
[06:58] <hplar> hi. I'm having a lot of difficulties trying to get my projector to work. Can anyone help?
[06:59] <motherbrain> well I increased and got the same problem i see a few red characters scroll by and then it is a black screen that keeps loading / never changes... Maybe some graphics card setting I have to set specific for chrome os ?
[06:59] <bazhang> Sailorr, dont spam  here
[07:00] <zombifier> bazhang: We do not negotiate with spam
[07:00] <motherbrain> plug it into power :) run the hdmi or vga or whatever cable you use to the computer then go into the display settings that should do it
[07:01] <hplar> i can get the projector to work vista via the usb cable, but it had to load some files from a cd to work. the cd does not contain any files that ubuntu can read.
[07:02] <BlackWeb> with IPTables would anyone know how to make them permanent to where right now then when I reboot my machine then I have to manually load the iptables saved file. how do you make it automatic
[07:03] <[R]> BlackWeb: you should use ufw
[07:03] <motherbrain> so then I would say check for linux drivers downloads on the projectors site or call the guys for help that made it
[07:05] <motherbrain> it may not currently be available use a new linux/ ubuntu distro or update as well you can try
[07:05] <motherbrain> maybe the drivers are in a newer version of ubuntu
[07:05] <motherbrain> builtin
[07:05] <BlackWeb> Alright never heard of it before I'll check it out thanks :)
[07:09] <motherbrain> look in the man pages for iptables I am sure you will beable to find a few exams and what you need to get rid of manual doing it... Or use a gui based tool to do all this behind the scense stuff
[07:09] <motherbrain> there are plenty of them'
[07:10] <motherbrain> unless you are doing something very complex or low level you shouldn't have to touch these iptables directly would think the gui versions would be enough
[07:13] <hplar> thanks for your help.
[07:13] <gapagos> i need help I installed Ubuntu but I lose video when I boot from grub
[07:14] <gapagos> I get no video issues when booting from live cd
[07:14] <gapagos> I don't understand why suddenly i lose all video signal when I boot from grub??
[07:15] <gapagos> anyone there???????????????
[07:16] <Sulaiman> Greetings, I am running windows 7 (64-bit) and want to install ubuntu (64-bit) on my E: drive using the alternative windows installer.
[07:16] <Sulaiman> the ubuntu's installer doesn't give me an option to pick 64-bit ...
[07:17] <zombifier> You must have downloaded the 32 bit image
[07:17] <zombifier> Redownload the 64bit one and you're good
[07:17] <Sulaiman> zombifier, no, I didn't download any iso file
[07:17] <Sulaiman> I just clicked on "Download windows installer"
[07:17] <zombifier> You mean Wubi?
[07:18] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> AMD64 is listed
[07:18] <gapagos> Sulaiman, it selects 32 bit by default
[07:18] <gapagos> you need to select 64 bit
[07:18] <gapagos> 32 bit is recommended because some drivers do not work in 64 bit
[07:19] <gapagos> i need help I installed Ubuntu and it boots fine from the live cd but I lose video when I boot from grub
[07:19] <gapagos> can anyone help me or should i just give up
[07:19] <gapagos> and remove ubuntu and restore my windows MBR
[07:19] <Sulaiman> zombifier, yes, i meant wubi
[07:19] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> try Kubuntu, before leaving the ubuntu world
[07:20] <zombifier> Sulaiman, I'm not familiar with Wubi, but it should allow you to choose 64bit
[07:20] <gapagos> Ketchup_Bottle, 1) I don<t like kde; 2- the problem occurs probably before any gui is loaded
[07:20] <zombifier> gapagos: what do you mean by losing video?
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[07:21] <sasuke> dcvdsvcjdb chgdsgak
[07:21] <gapagos> zombiefier, i mean i get no video signal after I order grub to boot ubuntu, and my monitor shuts off as if it was disconnected
[07:21] <unomi> gapagos, what gfx card are you using?
[07:21] <gapagos> there is a quick image tear before it happens so i asusme it;s a driver issue or so
[07:22] <Sulaiman> zombifier, do you recommend that I stick to 32-bit, as gapagos mentioned some drivers don't work with the 64-bit version?
[07:22] <gapagos> its a nvidia 9600 gt
[07:22] <zombifier> Dunno. If you mainboard is AMD64, then go with 64bit
[07:23] <zombifier> If you don't use any foreign graphic card or wireless card then you should be fine
[07:23] <gapagos> the irony is I used to have ubuntu 9.04 and it worked fine
[07:23] <unomi> Sulaiman, there really isn't a huge difference between 32 and 64 in my experience
[07:23] <unomi> gapagos, any chance the install process went awry?
[07:24] <zombifier> In my personal experience, the new nvidia driver (provided with Ubuntu's Additional Driver) is really buggy
[07:24] <bazhang> Sulaiman, there is not such driver issue. use 64 if your hardware supports it
[07:24] <gapagos> unomi, maybe during the grub, it originally said "no such disk" and i couldn't boot any os
[07:25] <unomi> Sulaiman, I was using 32 bit before, using 64 now - haven't really run into any issues, but nor am I feeling any subjective changes
[07:25] <gapagos> I installed and used boot-repair from the live cd to repair it and reinstall grub
[07:25] <Sulaiman> my laptop is using intel i5 64bit, so I will go ahead with the 64bit version
[07:25] <unomi> when you lose video, does the hdd continue to churn / any welcome sounds?
[07:25] <KIMAvcrp> I had a strange problem after installation of ubuntu yesterday after I activated the proprietary drivers ubuntu doesn't recognize my 2nd monitor anymore. I have a gtx250. For now  I stick with the open source driver but does anyone have an idea how this can be resolved
[07:25] <gapagos> unomi thats the only issue i can think of
[07:25] <gapagos> unomi i keep hearing sounds from the HDD, but no welcome chimmie after several mins
[07:27] <gapagos> unomi but eventually it becomes quiet and I just hard-reboot.... also my keyboard still works (at least caps locks does) as I lose video
[07:27] <unomi> If it was me I'd probably just reinstall, if it persisted then look at fiddling from the liveCD environment
[07:27] <gapagos> unomi I just installed for the 1st time
[07:28] <gapagos> the install doesn<t provide any options except reformating partitions or not
[07:28] <unomi> my guess would be that it is either loading something into the kernel that would need to be blacklisted, or not realizing the need to fall back to a more generic driver
[07:29] <gapagos> yeah but what can i try to fix it
[07:29] <unomi> gapagos, the thing is that the grub install issue isn't something that is part of the normal process
[07:30] <unomi> I would personally see if it might not bug out the 2nd time around
[07:30] <gapagos> unomi, if I only use the grub as the live cd intended, it gives me the error "no such disk" when I boot
[07:30] <gapagos> it;s quite scary as I can't boot at all not even in windows or ubuntu
[07:30] <unomi> how many hdds do you have?
[07:31] <gapagos> like 3
[07:31] <gapagos> i think
[07:31] <gapagos> windows and ubuntu are on 2 different ones
[07:31] <unomi> are they stand-alone or RAID?
[07:31] <unomi> ok
[07:31] <gapagos> not sure
[07:31] <unomi> try installing with the others disconnected?
[07:31] <sary> KIMAvcrp: hi , do you happen to have a dual graphic cards .
[07:32] <unomi> I mean, yes, you can probably fix it via the liveCD and fiddling with the right config settings, but I don't have that expertise
[07:32] <gapagos> unomi, if I disconnect the linux one, ill have 2 linux distros on 2 different drives when I connect it back and itll have to reduce my windows partition
[07:32] <unomi> if you want to gain that then google might be a backup-buddy till someone who does is around :)
[07:33] <gapagos> if I disconnect the windows one it wont detect it and wont give me the windows boot option
[07:33] <unomi> no, I mean disconnect all but the one you want to install linux to
[07:33] <gapagos> but i dont want to disconnect the windows one for fear of not being able to boot in windows or having two competing MBRs
[07:34] <unomi> that is an easier issue to fix than fiddling with the unknown
[07:34] <unomi> once you can boot from your hdd with linux and the gfx still hold up
[07:34] <unomi> then the only thing left to do is the grub entry
[07:35] <unomi> ( for the windows entry )
[07:35] <gapagos> i had really bad experiences with corrupted MBRs before
[07:35] <gapagos> im kinda paranoiac nowadays
[07:35] <unomi> I wish I could help you better
[07:35] <gapagos> thx anyway
[07:35] <gapagos> i appreciate it
[07:36] <unomi> well, go exploring :)
[07:36] <unomi> boot from the liveCD and see what you can dig up on grub configumalation
[07:46] <robotdevil> how do you change the boot splash screen in 12.04
[07:47] <robotdevil> is it called usplash?
[07:47] <zombifier> Not anymore. It's plymouth
[07:48] <zombifier> You can download/change plymouth bootscreen using Super Boot Manager
[07:51] <iamtheretoday> looking to install a easy to use mail client . any recommendations ?
[07:51] <ServerCrash> hi :)
[07:52] <zombifier> iamtheretoday: Thunderbird?
[07:53] <iamtheretoday> Does thunderbird have an encryption add on ?
[07:53] <zombifier> There is. Install the package enigmail from the repo
[07:54] <zombifier> It enables GPG encryption
[07:54] <iamtheretoday> great ..Thanks zombifier.....
[08:12] <h74> ciao
[08:12] <h74> !list
[08:13] <barcode> hi
[08:14] <BlackWeb> Hey anyone familiar with NFS & OpenVPN
[08:15] <Orpheon> I need some help, whenever I run a wine game requiring DirectX it gives me an error that it can't find DirectX, and this shows up in .xsession_errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007764/
[08:16] <Orpheon> following that, compiz crashes
[08:18] <Guest1408> Hey. I'm on a clean 64-bit 12.04 install, and I can't install ia32-libs.
[08:18] <Orpheon> huh
[08:18] <Orpheon> synaptic won't work?
[08:19] <Orpheon> it did for me
[08:19] <Orpheon> at least, it says they are installed
[08:19] <Guest1408> sudo aptitude install ia32-libs   gives me a dependency resolution dialog that suggests not installing any of the packages
[08:20] <Orpheon> "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[08:20] <Orpheon> what happens?
[08:20] <Blackshirt> Guest, update your repos't?
[08:21] <Guest1408> Blackshirt: just updated
[08:21] <Guest1408> Orpheon: .... weird, they're installing
[08:21] <Guest1408> I was under the impression that aptitude was a wrapper over apt-get?
[08:21] <Guest1408> Why would aptitude choose not to install them when apt-get would?
[08:22] <Blackshirt> No...aptitude not wrapper for apt-get
[08:23] <Orpheon> so
[08:23] <Orpheon> anyone have any idea why my wine can't initialize opengl?
[08:23] <Guest1408> Blackshirt: Then what is it? How are they different?
[08:23] <Orpheon> aptitude is older, I think
[08:23] <Orpheon> not sure though
[08:24] <zombifier> aptitude handles dependency better than apt-get
[08:24] <Blackshirt> I think was not
[08:24] <Guest1408> Orpheon: apt is definitely older. I think apt dates back to '86 or something, aptitude is relatively new.
[08:24] <zombifier> aptitude is the superior tool for sysadmins
[08:24] <Blackshirt> I mean, aptitude not older compared to apt-get
[08:25] <[R]> Guest1408: that makes no sense on so many levels
[08:25] <Orpheon> ah ok
[08:25] <Guest1408> zombifier: I tend to preferentially use aptitude, but in this case it was actually refusing to install my packages >.>
[08:25] <Guest1408> [R]: ?
[08:25] <[R]> Guest1408: apt being from 86
[08:25] <zombifier> What error does it give?
[08:25] <Blackshirt> Are you sure for 86? Linux was not created before?
[08:25] <zombifier> It's possible.
[08:25] <Guest1408> Erm. 98
[08:25] <[R]> lol
[08:25] <Guest1408> listen to wikipedia, not my tired brain
[08:26] <zombifier> since some really old Linux tools are actually from UNIX
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> shred commands for sure
[08:26] <Guest1408> Emacs is 76
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[08:31] <caesar_> how can i extract rar files?
[08:31] <auronandace> !rar
[08:31] <bethebunny> caesar_: Install unrar
[08:31] <caesar_> ty
[08:32] <zombifier> Install unrar and then Ubuntu's default archive manager whould be able to handle it
[08:33] <Jragon> Hello
[08:34] <wrenny> asdf
[08:35] <Jragon> I'm in need of some help. For some odd reason, I do not know when I boot Ubuntu live it gets stuck on the loading screen with the dots going along the screen. And when I try to boot Windows which I have installed on my hdd it gets past the boot screen but then goes to a black screen with the mouse, and then it restarts. I've no idea what I've done or what I should do... :S
[08:36] <zombifier> Jragon: The LiveCD is slow. Wait for a few minutes.
[08:37] <zombifier> As for the Windows problem, no idea. The LiveCD does not, in anyway possible, modify your system.
[08:37] <Jragon> zombifier: I left it 3 hours with out any luck.
[08:37] <barcode> hi have someone know , why I didn't find menu.lst
[08:37] <zombifier> OK, 3 hours is too much
[08:37] <barcode> on ubuntu 12 LTS
[08:37] <Jragon> I have also tried Linux Mint, with the same problem.
[08:37] <Jragon> Mint 11
[08:37] <mjtowell> Jragon, if you press Esc when you see the dots, you will be shown the boot messages which may be helpful in diagnosing the problem.
[08:37] <barcode> I install Xen-Hypervisor
[08:38] <barcode> on Ubuntu 12 LTS.
[08:38] <kutty> how to create partition ubuntu 12.04 ,any one help me?
[08:38] <barcode> and already update-grub, but nothing change with grub.conf
[08:39] <kutty> how to create partition ubuntu 12.04 ,any one help me?
[08:39] <barcode> xen kernel still not showing
[08:39] <barcode> make it default bro
[08:39] <The_BROS> I found one bug. When I run Virtualbox, applet indicators of programmes crushes. How can I fix it?
[08:40] <kutty> how to create partition ubuntu 12.04 ,any one help me?
[08:40] <Jragon> Okay. It says timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -o /dev/sbd' [461]
[08:40] <mjtowell> kutty, GParted is your friend.
[08:40] <kutty> thanks
[08:41] <n1ckn4me09876543> on Windows OS, when I want to erase a CD-RW disc I just go to My Computer right click disc-drive & click ERASE THIS DISC,  how would I go about doing something similar in linux? erase cd-rw data
[08:44] <barcode> hello, Has someone already install xen-hypervisor on ubuntu ?
[08:44] <barcode> 12 LTS
[08:44] <zombifier> Can you install it?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> !info xen-hypervisor
[08:45] <zombifier> Actually, xen-hypervisor-4.1-i386 is the correct name
[08:45] <zombifier> or xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64 if 64bit
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> yeah for some reason on my 32bit quantal I am offered xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> logging a bug
[08:46] <Jragon> mjtowell: Any idea as to what I should do?
[08:46] <robotdevil> how come removing quiet and splash from /etc/default/grub still gives me the ugly gray boot splash on kubuntu 12.04
[08:46] <zombifier> Yeah. Precise 32bit here and I see all 2 packages, i386 and amd64
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: do you mean a plain screen?
[08:47] <robotdevil> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=                  is how my grub looks and still a splash screen
[08:47] <barcode> I already install with xen-hypervisor-*, but I didn't find grub
[08:47] <barcode> for choosing xen-kernel
[08:48] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: no it has a logo and everything
[08:48] <mjtowell> Jragon, not without knowing what your boot messages say. Have a look at what boot message your system hangs on and search Google for that particular boot message with words such as "hangs".
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: can you expandon 'ugly' then please
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: did you run:  sudo update-grub    after editting the file, as well?
[08:50] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: oops lol
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, did you update grub after removing, or from the boot it was removed
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> haha I sense he didn't run update-grub
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> it happens
[08:51] <Jragon> mjtowell: Hmm.. It only comes up with a result. timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -o /dev/sbd' [461]
[08:51]  * ActionParsnip warms up a facepalm for robotdevil
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> lol
[08:51] <zombifier> :)
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> even says it on the top line of the file as a handy reminder :)
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> head -n 1 /etc/default/grub
[08:53] <alankila> if debian could get rid of its habit of generating the actually used config files I would be so much happier
[08:53] <zombifier> ?
[08:53] <alankila> grub2 is pretty smart, but apparently not smart enough to do the work at boot-up time to discover what operating systems are there, or to read auxiliary config files like /etc/default/grub.
[08:54] <mjtowell> Jragon, are you using the latest Ubuntu live CD?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> alankila: that's what os-prober is for
[08:54] <alankila> every update-foo program is imho a bug. But perhaps update-initramfs and update-grub are the sort of things that are too hard to fix
[08:54] <Jragon> mjtowell: no
[08:54] <Jragon> mjtowell: I'll download it now and burn it.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: remember to MD5 test :)
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: better?
[08:55] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: How would I do that?
[08:55] <mjtowell> Jragon, I think that trying the latest live CD is good idea :) Good luck.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Jragon
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[09:05] <krababbel> hey hey!, hot weather here, and mondey off for everyone
[09:05] <belyle> Allo folks
[09:07] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: no how do I do logout or does that cover it?
[09:07] <robotdevil> now*
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: do you mean from the desktop session?
[09:08] <robotdevil> sorry reboot or restart or shutdown
[09:08] <belyle> I was hoping you guys could help to break my mental block ... I've never before configured a mail or web server in my life, and for shits and giggles I registered a domain to play around with.  In South Africa we have DSL with dynamic IP's, so I would like to know if anyone can explain to me how I get the mail to delivered to my server and then how to get the mail to me and my mates
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: can run:  sudo shutdown -r now      and it will reboot, if that's what you mean?
[09:09] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: I mean to see verbose, not a splash
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: try pressing ESC during boot, plymouth should hide and you can watch the boot, the same text is present in:    dmesg | less     if the system boots fully
[09:11] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> belyle, your email service will need to allow you to access your email.  Then you just sign into it through a program.
[09:11] <ebe_dh> Hi to everyone
[09:14] <belyle> Ok, as I mentioned we have DSL with dynamic IP's, so I registered a DynDNS account, obviously I will have to configure something on the 12.04 (a client of sorts) ... so do I then ask DynDNS to keep the mail intended for the domain "rubinconza.dyndns.org" with them, then A) push it down to the my box, or B) Set a program up to retrieve the mail from them?
[09:14] <schreber> Does anyone know how to change the icon theme on 12.04 while running Cinnamon?
[09:16] <zombifier> schreber: Dunno if Ubuntu Tweak will do the trick, since Cinnamon is a GNOME Shell port
[09:16] <ebe_dh> i am a absolutely newcommer and need some help to bring V12.04 onto my old PC. Every try to install it from cdrom fails at the end with "Unrecovarable Error" and dies (allmost)
[09:16] <schreber> zombifier: I was thinking that might be the trick but thought best to ask before attempting.
[09:16] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> ebe_dh, laptop or desktop?
[09:17] <belyle> ebe_dh, how far into the installation does it bomb?
[09:17] <schreber> Another odd question I like the theme kfaenza as opposed to the standard, if you want to call it that, faenza theme is there anyway to get it to work under gnome/cinnamon?
[09:17] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, hi buddy i need ur help about my wireless card. every time i start my laptop, to enable my wireless card i need to pass a command in terminal i.e. sudo modprob b43. can you please let me know how to avoid this
[09:17] <ebe_dh> it is Desktop and the install runs allmost to the end...
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: echo "b43" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[09:18] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, what will this do?
[09:18] <belyle> ebe_dh, if I can make a suggestion, try installing without selecting any of the Servers apart from SSH
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> schreber: cinnamon isn't supported here
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: add the word 'b43' to the /etc/modules file, it will then be loaded at boot
[09:20] <schreber> ActionParsnip: I suppose there is a #cinnamon for such things then, right?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> schreber: perhaps, or you could join the mint channel, they use cinnamon
[09:21] <ebe_dh> belyle, how does it work
[09:22]  * kecer hi
[09:23] <belyle> I'm a ubuntu nub myself, but from what I've seen (this morning @ 03:00) near the end of the installation it asks you which servers you want to install, I de-selected everything apart from the OpenSSH server ... did you get to that part?
[09:23] <belyle> and, to answer your question, the OpenSSH will make it possible for you to use putty and ssh into the box (if you are a skint South African like me and dont have a screen for you box) :D
[09:25] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, i have added the b43 module in the modules file, i am going to reboot now to check, thanks to you in advance.
[09:25] <ebe_dh> belyle: No sofar i didnt com! The setup works pretty long on HD, ask some questions, latest for my picture...then brings error message
[09:27] <belyle> oh crap, sorry mate, I was on about 12.04 server not desktop
[09:27] <belyle> sorry
[09:28] <belyle> Won't be able to help you on Desktop, mine installed A-OK first time around
[09:28] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, i have rebooted and it works gr8
[09:28] <ebe_dh> the last error is "/usr/bin/ubiquti-dm"
[09:28] <belyle> weebee Wishing_Master, did it work?
[09:28] <belyle> awesome :)
[09:28] <belyle> Did you try and google the output ebe_dh ?
[09:29] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, there was another entry in modules files i.e. ls
[09:29] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, whats that for?
[09:30] <ebe_dh> belyle: yes i posted the report as recomendet.
[09:30] <belyle> I'm looking around too quickly
[09:34] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, there was another entry in modules files i.e. ls                                     ActionParsnip, whats that for?
[09:35] <DragonSlay> what is 12.4% contiguous in linux
[09:35] <DragonSlay> linux filesystem *
[09:35] <satop1> how to share my  usb-modem  3g mobile broadband trough wifi with my android phone ?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: if there are other moduls mentioned, that's fine
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: those modules will also be loaded at boot
[09:36] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, whats is ls  for?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !ics | satop1
[09:36] <kecer> $help
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: no idea, it's a module
[09:36]  * kecer don't need help
[09:37] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, okay
[09:37] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, thanks bro
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: np :)
[09:37] <hid> hi I'm using xcaliber to calibrate the screen on my laptop but I can't find a good configuration. Can you help me ?
[09:38] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, emoticons don't work here. thats sad
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: depends on the client
[09:38] <satop1> actionparsnip i am looking into it TY
[09:38]  * kecer nah
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: works fine here in Pidgin
[09:38] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, i am using xchat
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: that's why then
[09:38] <Wishing_Master> ActionParsnip, uh?
[09:38] <hid> There's always too much luminosity and colors are wrong
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Wishing_Master: I use Pidgin for IRC when I am home
[09:39]  * kecer .
[09:39]  * kecer nah
[09:39] <zombifier> XChat does not have emotes. If I remembered correctly, there's a plugin somewhere
[09:40] <Wishing_Master> zombifier, yeah u r right,they don't work in xchat
[09:40] <Jragon> Okay. WEll I'm now booting 12. It seems to still be on the loading dots... When I click escape it says timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb1' [496]
[09:40] <belyle> ActionParsnip, could I run postfix as a "Internet Site" if I have a dynamic IP address linked to a country domain like rubiconza.co.za (I want my server to pull mail from my ISP in this case, Web-Africa) or do I have to chose "Internet with smarthost" ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> belyle: not sure, never set anything like that up before
[09:41] <systemu> botched an ecryptfs disabling
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: what GPU do you use. It's also 12.04, not 12
[09:41] <systemu> i now only have a .Private directory
[09:41] <systemu> in my $HOME
[09:41] <morko> is there some reason i should install lamp with tasksel rather than with apt-get if it is possible to install it with apt-get install lamp-server^ ?
[09:41] <systemu> any way i can recover that
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> systemu: backups will save the day
[09:42] <systemu> ActionParsnip, <_<
[09:42] <systemu> i do have soe
[09:42] <systemu> some
[09:42] <systemu> any other way?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> systemu: possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[09:43] <systemu> the .Private dir is pretty huge
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> encryptfs is too much of a headache
[09:43] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: I'm using the GT 440
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: add the boot  option:  nouvea.blacklist=1
[09:44] <systemu> ActionParsnip, i really wish i knew that when i was offered that on install
[09:44] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: How would I do that?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> morko: not sure why tbh, I guess you could do it with apt-get
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: hold shift at boot, press E to (e)dit the boot and add it on the same line as:  quiet splash
[09:45] <pungi-man> can anyone tell me how to get a static IP for my server??
[09:46] <mf|laptop> What do you mean by Static IP? Internet one that can be accessed anywhere in the world or local IP? like 192.168.1.2
[09:46] <morko> ActionParsnip, thank you. i will use apt-get then. i don't understand why the community documentation tells you to install tasksel first.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: you can contact your provider. Alternatively you can get a dydns / noip account then the a name can be used and the IP will be mooted
[09:47] <belyle> pungi-man, public static or local static (on your machine self) - if on your machine self then try checking out the file /etc/network/interfaces
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> morko: I'd go with it if it was me, probably some reason but I'd imagine both ways are ok
[09:48] <pungi-man> belyle, public static
[09:48] <belyle> then what ActionParsnip said :)
[09:48] <mf|laptop> pungi-man then it would need to be your ISP or use a dynamic IP through dyndns or noip :)
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: I have a noip account so I don't have to know my IP, just as you don't have to know the IP of the pages you visit
[09:48] <systemu> ;_;
[09:49] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: umm...
[09:49] <pungi-man> i actually wanted to set up a web server....so what will I need to set it up....i have coded the site....i just want to put the site online
[09:49] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: Holding shift at the boot menu for the live cd doesn't do anything, nor does shift+e.
[09:49] <BlouBlou> pungi-man: apache2 for example
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: then port forward on your router and it will be accessible
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Jragon
[09:49] <pungi-man> i have install LAMP server
[09:50] <pungi-man> ActionParsnip, how to so that?? I am actually new to servers
[09:50] <sirknight> hi
[09:50] <belyle> pungi-man, do the port forward on your router
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: you do know there are lots of websites explaining boot options on the internet....
[09:50] <mf|laptop> pungi-man: http://www.no-ip.com/ use that site, to setup the hostname for the site. if you need to use your own domain name you may need to use dyndns.
[09:50] <BlouBlou> pungi-man: do you know about your router firewall?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: you'll need your router manual and access the web based config page
[09:51] <BlouBlou> pungi-man: well, that's not really a firewall, but a port forwarder, just open your port (80) to your local ip
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> mf|laptop: why dydns for a domain name? noip provides domain names too...
[09:51] <mf|laptop> pungi-man: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServersBehindNAT should help with that. I was not aware noip provide domain names ActionParsnip.
[09:52] <mf|laptop> With the router, I would reccomend getting out the instructions that came with it if unsure. Or googling the model online and adding port forwarding to the end of the search.
[09:52] <pungi-man> when i access the web config page i asks my password and then when i have entered the default (i have not changed my password) password it does not give me that page
[09:52] <pungi-man> *it
[09:52] <BlouBlou> pungi-man: admin and no password then
[09:52] <mf|laptop> what model of router is it?
[09:52] <mf|laptop> and make
[09:53] <pungi-man> Sterlite
[09:53] <pungi-man> SAM300AX
[09:53] <mf|laptop> try admin and admin
[09:53] <pungi-man> i tried it
[09:54] <mf|laptop> pungi-man: this site should help with finding one that works: http://www.indiabroadband.net/mtnl-broadband/34674-mtnl-changed-modem-user-pass.html
[09:54] <sanny> hello guys, how to install gimp 2.8 in oneiric, im always  got dependency issue...
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> sanny: run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:55] <sanny> hmm, will try...
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: should be U:admin  P:admin    all lower case
[09:56] <belyle> mf|laptop, sorry, saw something you said now, so if I have a domain registered here in .co.za I can also register a dyndns domain and "map" it to my domain?
[09:56] <pungi-man> i tried it
[09:57] <Jragon> Okay, ActionParsnip. After trying that it still gives the same error
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Jragon
[09:58] <pungi-man> does anyone else use mtnl here??
[09:58] <pungi-man> modem??
[09:58] <Wishing_Master> :)
[09:59] <mf|laptop> pungi-man: I would imagine they use the same default passwords.
[10:00] <pungi-man> i now have to call up to their call centre
[10:01] <fasta> Is there a version of chromium for Ubuntu which is not insecure out of the box?
[10:01] <morko> pungi-man, the router should probably have somekind of reset button that resets it to the factory configuration
[10:02] <morko> pungi-man, but then you have to configure your internet again
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> fasta: chromium-browser   in the repos is available...
[10:02] <fasta> ActionParsnip: and that's version 18.
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> fasta: yes
[10:02] <fasta> ActionParsnip: everything before some version 19 is insecure.
[10:02] <pungi-man> i have the reset button but i fear that it may spoil the settings
[10:02] <sanny> i think i will break my system after adding Gimp ppa in oneiric, is any alternative to get gimp 2.8 work in oneiric, sir?
[10:02] <morko> pungi-man, yeah it will "spoil" the settings
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> fasta: then I suggest you report a bug so it can be updated, mark it as a security risk
[10:03] <pungi-man> sorry delete it!!
[10:04] <metalguy> I am looking for a software for image to text converter in linux but cant find one?
[10:04] <morko> pungi-man, but if you are sure that the default password is admin and it is not working then that is your only option
[10:04] <sirknight> hi
[10:04] <pungi-man> i will try
[10:04] <morko> pungi-man, then you will have to configure it again.
[10:04] <pungi-man> hope everything will work fine!!
[10:04] <zombifier> metalguy: image to ASCII?
[10:04] <morko> pungi-man, you have to know your isp:s settings
[10:04] <metalguy> zombifier, yes, the texts are as images
[10:05] <fasta> ActionParsnip: there are still 369 open bugs; I don't think it will help :)
[10:05] <metalguy> zombifier,  i dont want to write them again
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> fasta: could use Iron, its a chrome based browser with the spy junk pulled out: http://www.srware.net/downloads/iron-linux.tar.gz
[10:05] <pungi-man> mostly coz i saw the person doing  that 6 months ago
[10:05] <fasta> ActionParsnip: that most likely has the same bug.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> fasta: depends which version its based on...
[10:06] <fasta> ActionParsnip: is there anything in Ubuntu which protects me from exploits?
[10:06] <fasta> ActionParsnip: address randomization tricks, etc.?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> fasta: what is this vulnerability you are so petrified of anyway?
[10:07] <morko> pungi-man, yea.. if you don't know how to configure it then better leave it for someone else because then you maybe loose your internet
[10:07] <fasta> ActionParsnip: well, it's a fairly involved one, so likely no problem; still, I don't like to run software which is already known to be broken.
[10:07] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it has been in the news.
[10:07] <systemu> GOT IT
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> fasta: with 369 bugs (as you say), its quite broken apart from the issue you know of.
[10:07] <morko> pungi-man, or search your isp instructions for configuring the router
[10:08] <morko> pungi-man, and also the routers own manual
[10:08] <pungi-man> good idea....but will not change my duniya
[10:08] <cagoccione> How can I set a bash script which is called on every logout ? (Lubuntu)
[10:08] <zombifier> metalguy: GIMP has an option to export an image to ASCII, but I'm certain there are lighter ways to do this.
[10:08] <systemu> ActionParsnip, ecryptfs-recover-private /home/.ecryptfs/[username]/.Private
[10:08] <morko> pungi-man, it is not so hard if you read a bit
[10:08] <zombifier> .
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> systemu: nice, now make a backup (like you SHOULD have had before)
[10:08] <pouncer> can someone check and see if the ultimate edition site is not working properly for them it loads up the main page but when i try and go to another page it gives me a 404 error
[10:08] <systemu> ActionParsnip, ;_;
[10:08] <Almindor> hello
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> systemu: no backup == data is disposable
[10:09] <Almindor> is there a way to force-disable internal microphone in ubuntu 12.04/pulseaudio?
[10:09] <fasta> ActionParsnip: not all of them are security problems.
[10:09] <Almindor> it always gets selected as default after restart for me and it breaks up skype etc. (I have to select the usb one)
[10:09] <cagoccione> How can I set a bash script which is called on every logout ? (Lubuntu)
[10:09] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: the boot screen is compleatly different on 12.04
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: maybe in ~/.bash_logout
[10:11] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: maybe?
[10:11] <tahimik> cagoccione: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38481
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: well......try it.
[10:11] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: does it work only with shell logout? I need it also for graphical one
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: it doesn't cost anything to try
[10:12] <systemu> ActionParsnip, which backup app do you use?
[10:12] <systemu> there are so many of them
[10:12] <systemu> and i haven't figured out a working process / policy
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> systemu: cp + cron, dirty and quick
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[10:14] <systemu> is there a way to backup the same thing with multiple copies on multiple hdds?
[10:14] <systemu> not raid. raid is not a backup scheme
[10:14] <ikonia> copy the backup onto other disks
[10:15] <systemu> how do i make sure everything is the same between all of the copies?
[10:15] <pouncer> can someone else check and see if they are having problems with the ultimateedition.info site main page works but keep getting 404 error just wanting to make sure its not my system
[10:15] <ikonia> systemu: take a backup, copy backup to other disk
[10:15] <zombifier> metalguy: The command asciiview -driver curses imagenamehere should do it
[10:15] <systemu> if something goes wrong with one, it'll propagate
[10:16] <morko> systemu, diff
[10:16] <ikonia> pouncer: that site is worthless anyway
[10:16] <dz0ny> poucer: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ultimateedition.info and yes it works
[10:16] <ikonia> systemu: take a backup, copy it to multiple disks
[10:17] <pouncer> thanks all i appreciate it
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> systemu: could use grsync
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/     always funny
[10:24] <fasta> When I start Muon, and want to install some updates, it says that it cannot do that because the proper authentication was not supplied.
[10:24] <fasta> Do I need to do something special to enable that?
[10:25] <zombifier> fasta: are you asked for your password?
[10:26] <fasta> zombifier: no
[10:27] <fasta> zombifier: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/polkit-kde-1/+bug/867737
[10:27] <fasta> zombifier: I think it's that one.
[10:27] <fasta> zombifier: they say a fix has been released; I think they just fixed it for one particular case.
[10:28] <fasta> I.e. they didn't fix it.
 hi guys
 i have an issue
 suddenly my ehcp is not working
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> fasta: try:   kdesu muon
 Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /var/www/new/ehcp/config/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 365
[10:28] <ikonia> AuroSoniQ: mysql is not running
 i have not done anything and made any changes to the sql root pass
 :(
[10:28] <ikonia> or the socket file is not there
[10:29] <miss_ubuntu> hi ,shutdown loggs off me instead of shutdown ... 11.10
 i manually restart sqld
 is still the same
 all my bind server all down
 is a disaster
 :(
[10:29] <FloodBot1> AuroSoniQ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <ikonia> AuroSoniQ: is this your issue or someone elses ?
[10:29] <ikonia> AuroSoniQ: stop
[10:29] <ikonia> AuroSoniQ: is this your issue or someone elses ?
[10:29] <ikonia> oh, it's a bot
 is mine
[10:30] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it's kdesudo, but yes, now it works.
[10:31] <Inquisitor> ikonia
[10:31] <tahimik> miss_ubuntu: Do you want to power down your computer? Are you shutting down from a console prompt?
[10:31] <Inquisitor> it is not a spam bot :(
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> fasta: http://linux.die.net/man/1/kdesu
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> fasta: you'll have both
[10:31] <ikonia> Inquisitor: if you have a moment can you join #ubuntu-ops please.
[10:32] <Inquisitor> ya ok :)
[10:32] <cagoccione> how can I disable the lxde feature which shows hidden files (can be toggled by right-clicking on any window)
[10:32] <pbd> join /ubuntu-ops
[10:32] <miss_ubuntu> tahimik thanks for reply . yes i want to power down by clicking computer icon then select "shut down"
[10:32] <fasta> ActionParsnip: which filepath? Because I don't.
[10:32] <fasta> ActionParsnip: kdesu<TAB> does not complete.
[10:32] <fasta> ActionParsnip: (to anything but kdesudo)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> fasta: ah, maybe they removed it
[10:32] <pbd> join /#ubuntu-ops
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: which file browser
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> cagoccione:  check the settings for the lxde/lubuntu default file manager.  YOu want it disabled by not allowing it at all? or always being set one way or the other?
[10:34] <tahimik> miss_ubutu: I don't have a gui on my machine to check. You could open a terminal and type  sudo shutdown -h now
[10:35] <vlt> Hello. Since I upgraded to 12.04 (fresh install) my browser (chromium) is unusable. I start it and after a few seconds it closes. This is the terminal output I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007881/  What to do nowß
[10:35] <vlt> ?
[10:36] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip, Dr_Willis: I think it is openbox...! I've Lubuntu 11.10!
[10:36] <cagoccione> I want to make it impossible in the window manager
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: in help -> about   what does it say?
[10:37] <miss_ubuntu> hi ,shutdown loggs off me instead of shutdown ... 11.10
[10:37] <cagoccione> PCManFM 0.9.9
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: does:  sudo shutdown -h now     shut it down?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: ok so now we know the app
[10:37] <cagoccione> ok...
[10:37] <cagoccione> do you think it's possible?
[10:38] <pbd> miss_ubuntu : there must be other users logged in to the computer. Use sudo shutdown -h
[10:39] <ironm> have you tested it with ubuntu 12.04 desktop in live mode? ... vlt> Hello. Since I upgraded to 12.04 (fresh install) my browser (chromium) is unusable. I start it and after a few seconds it closes. This is the terminal output I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007881/  What to do now
[10:39] <cagoccione> I wanna remove that feature from Right-click menu
[10:41] <ironm> hello. Is there a better way for off-line installations of additional software on ubuntu-server than the following one? ... http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-ubuntu-local-repo.pdf
[10:42] <ironm> the .tgz files or .iso images for aptoncd is at: http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/
[10:42] <vlt> cagoccione: How to switch to “live mode”?
[10:42] <vlt> cagoccione: (sorry)
[10:42] <vlt> ironm: ^
[10:42] <ironm> vlt, when you boot
[10:43] <vlt> ironm: When I boot I get the grub menu
[10:43] <ironm> in the boot menu (test)
[10:43] <assenga> chigybuntu:take antipas
[10:43] <ironm> do you use 12.04 desktio image vlt  ?
[10:43] <ironm> desktop
[10:43] <vlt> ironm: I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with ubuntu-desktop installed, yes.
[10:44] <ironm> vlt, the point is to boot in live mode from the images (CD or UBS stick) ... and then you have two choices (run in test mode or install)
[10:44] <vlt> ironm: Aah …
[10:44] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: hmm .bash_logout works only for the shell
[10:45] <vlt> ironm: I have no CD drive or USB to boot from. How to create an Ubuntu USB boot stick?
[10:46] <ironm> vlt, when you boot from HDD you will *not* have such boot menu I guess. I run ubuntu on my desktop only for test purposes in live mode. I install it (ubuntu-server on servers)
[10:46] <VMERSINTO> is gnuchess written in c++? where could i see the source?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> VMERSINTO: sudo apt-get source install gnuchess
[10:47] <vlt> ironm: Yes, I understand that. But I didn’t use an install CD for years, so didn’t know about “live mode”.
[10:47] <zombifier> ActionParsnip: Is the install flag nessesary?
[10:47] <ironm> vlt, download the .iso image and copy it to the stick with the following command: dd if=./ubuntu-xxx.iso of=/dev/sd<your_USB_device_ID> bs=1M
[10:47] <assenga> how could i write c code in ubuntu
[10:47] <VMERSINTO> ActionParsnip : Unable to find a source package for install
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> seems it's: sudo apt-get source gnuchess
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> zombifier: looks like install isn't needed
[10:48] <zombifier> I don't think there's sudo
[10:48] <vlt> ironm: Ok. (Will use ddrescue instead)
[10:48] <VMERSINTO> no sudo
[10:48] <VMERSINTO> ?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> try both ways, its free to try
[10:48] <ironm> assenga, with vi of course ;)
[10:49] <Justinsas> Anyone good with raid diagnoses? dmesg output here https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvmcyppkx23y69u/raid.txt
[10:49] <VMERSINTO> got it
[10:49] <chigybuntu> Sema priva, upo online?
[10:49] <VMERSINTO> hold on will pastebin
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> VMERSINTO: trying stuff teaches you your OS  :)
[10:49] <assenga> thangx ironm
[10:49] <zombifier> assenga, simply write a code in your preferred editor, save it with the appropriate etension (like .c) then compile it with gcc
[10:49] <assenga> nipo kijana pswd antipas
[10:49] <VMERSINTO> VMERSINTO : I love it...Im a computer science student
[10:50] <ironm> assenga, there are some tolls like eclipse (IDE) with some plugins ...
[10:50] <zombifier> assenga, vi is a commandline text editor. Do you want that?
[10:50] <VMERSINTO> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1007893/
[10:50] <assenga> zombifier,how could i find gcc in ubuntu
[10:51] <chigybuntu> assenga: Nimesha connect siku nyingiii.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> VMERSINTO: ok, looks good
[10:51] <zombifier> In the terminal, type gcc lol.c -o lol in order to compile lol.c into an executalbe named lol
[10:51] <VMERSINTO> ActionParsnip : what next?
[10:51] <assenga> chigy,poa what happen
[10:51] <zombifier> If you're not familiar with the command line, you can use a GUI tool like geany
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> VMERSINTO: run:  ls    and you'll see the source code files
[10:52] <VMERSINTO> ActionParsnip : the .dsc
[10:52] <chigybuntu> assenga: Now i'm trying to copy your text file kwenye desktop.....lenye compiz settings
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> VMERSINTO: no, the 2 archives will contain the source
[10:52] <assenga> zombifier:ok ,i try it
[10:52] <VMERSINTO> ok
[10:53] <assenga> chigy:poa thats great
[10:53] <VMERSINTO> ActionParsnip : why did it fail to verify the signature?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> VMERSINTO: no idea, I don't play with sources
[10:54] <VMERSINTO> I see
[10:54] <maca> Hello, I need help urgently. I can't turn on my webcam on emesene.
[10:54] <maca> How can I put my webcam on my hotmail chats???
[10:54] <maca> I need now
[10:54] <assenga> chigy:embu tuma ip zako nijaribu
[10:54] <miss_ubuntu>   hi ActionParsnip pbd sudo shutdown -h doesnot completely shutdown i have to press power button to stop pc
[10:55] <VMERSINTO> it appears to be written in C
[10:55] <maca> Someone knows how to put my webcam operative on hotmail chats??
[10:55] <maca> Should I install other packages??
[10:55] <maca> SOme one?
[10:56] <maca> I haven't got soo much time
[10:56] <HellTiger> hello, can some one tell what i have to put before the slashes here: sed -i 's/http://virtuality/http://192.168.1.55/g' configure.php
[10:57] <assenga> zombifier,i try to type gcc* (as you say) i get a fatal error
[10:58] <assenga> chigy:umefanikiwa
[10:58] <chigybuntu> 172.37.217.177
[10:58] <zombifier> I forgot that gcc is no longer included by default in Ubuntu, since normal users don't really use it. Install build-essentials and you're good.
[10:58] <chigybuntu> ma*******ngo210
[10:58] <zombifier>  build-essential
[10:58] <zombifier> typo
[10:59] <morko> HellTiger, you can escape the slashes with a backslash
[10:59] <Taos> Trying to install openssl 0.9.8
[10:59] <Taos> E: Version â0.9.8g-4â for âopensslâ was not found
[10:59] <Taos> sudo apt-get install openssl=0.9.8g-4 was what I entered
[10:59] <HellTiger> thx morko
[10:59] <morko> HellTiger, or i think you can use s|http://fdsjaofsda|http://rljrew|g
[11:00] <tahimik> miss_ubuntu: did you use the word  now  after  shudo shutdown -h   ?  ie:  sudo shutdown -h now
[11:00] <ironm> Taos, apt-get update; apt-cache search <whatever_you_look_for>
[11:00] <HellTiger> morko: like this? sed -i 's/http:\/\/virtuality/http:\/\/192.168.1.55/g' configure.php
[11:00] <DarkLobster> Can anyone tell me what the *heck* u1sdtool needs X11 for?? Isn't it supposed to be a *command line* tool??
[11:00] <assenga> chigy:connection refused
[11:00] <morko> HellTiger, yeah but you need to escape . too
[11:00] <HellTiger> morko: like this? sed -i 's|http://virtuality|http://192.168.1.55|g' configure.php
[11:01] <morko> HellTiger, i think so. but u need to escape the dot also. and not sure about the :
[11:01] <morko> HellTiger, the dot means any character in regular expression
[11:02] <hid> Hi. 've just install the video card nvidia driver but my new resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1366x768
[11:02] <assenga> chigy:play a music to me plz
[11:02] <HellTiger> morko: like this? sed -i 's|http\:\/\/virtuality|http\:\/\/192\.168\.1\.55|g' configure.php
[11:02] <HellTiger> :D
[11:02] <zombifier> DarkLobster: What is the exact name of the package? Since I think that X11 is only recommended, and apt-get also installs recommended packages by default.
[11:03] <morko> HellTiger, hehe.. wait a sec i will test
[11:03] <Taos> ironm: not working
[11:03] <Taos> I really need openssl 0.9.8
[11:03] <Taos> on ubuntu 12.04
[11:03] <chigybuntu> assenga: ssh chigybuntu@***************
[11:03] <ironm> Taos, what is the output of: apt-cache search openssl
[11:03] <ironm> ?
[11:04] <hid> And I cannot change it either in the screen option nor with sudo nvidia-settings
[11:04] <hid> please help
[11:04] <VMERSINTO> what is openssl?
[11:04] <Taos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007907/
[11:04] <zombifier> !openssl
[11:04] <zykotick9> hid: have you rebooted since installing the nvidia driver?
[11:05] <pbd> morko : the logic is that you have to put a "\" before every special character. Special characters can be like \,/.; and a lot many
[11:05] <zombifier> Ok, nope
[11:05] <zombifier> VMERSINTO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSSL
[11:05] <DarkLobster> zombifier: I get http://pastebin.com/aY1vQmF6 when trying to run it. SSH'ed to a remote computer.
[11:05] <zykotick9> !info openssl
[11:05] <assenga> chigy:embu try to quit mara moja coz bado cheche
[11:05] <chigybuntu> assenga: Dont forget to "sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client"
[11:05] <ironm> Taos, line 20: openssl - Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools
[11:05] <hid> zykotick9: yes of course. After the 1st reboot there was no problem. After a 2nd reboot, the problem came.
[11:05] <morko> pdb, yeah  but wasnt sure if : is special or not
[11:05] <Taos> ironm: yes but thats version 1.x
[11:06] <Taos> I need 0.9.8
[11:06] <chigybuntu> assenga: Cheche, net ipo slow au?
[11:06] <morko> HellTiger, s/http:\/\/virtuality/http:\/\/192\.168\.1\.55/g
[11:06] <HellTiger> morko: its maybe more easy with s;http://...;http://...;g
[11:06] <ironm> Taos, in such case you should create your own packages for 0.9.8
[11:06] <Taos> wut -_-
[11:07] <VMERSINTO> so it just implements the ssl functionality
[11:08] <assenga> chigy:openssh-server set to manually installed hiya sentens unaielewaje
[11:09] <sanu> please be in english
[11:09] <assenga> chigy:nime isudo ndo result yake hiyo
[11:10] <ironm> Taos, do you afraid that openssl 1.x has some security wholes (compare to 0.9.8) ?
[11:10] <assenga> chigy:au id ime change
[11:10] <Taos> ironm: no its just im building pypy and it requires a specific version of 0.9.8
[11:15] <HellTiger> morko: thats it: ed -i 's;http://virtuality;http://192.168.1.56;g' configure.php
[11:15] <ironm> Taos, it looks like there is already pypy package availabe: root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# apt-cache search pypy
[11:15] <ironm> python-apipkg - namespace control and lazy-import mechanism for Python
[11:15] <morko> HellTiger, allrighty
[11:16] <hid> nobody for my screen resolution problem
[11:16] <ironm> Taos, ah .. sorry .. I was on ubuntu 11.10 server
[11:16] <hid> ?
[11:16] <morko> HellTiger, glad i could not help xD
[11:18] <HellTiger> hehe
[11:18] <assenga> kijana mucic unapiga mno
[11:20] <stephanmg> hello.
[11:20] <stephanmg> any suggestions for a graphical frontned for the gdb under xfce4?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> any GUI for gdb should work under any desktop. :) thats a neat thing about X/Linux
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> and ive no idea on guis for gdm
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> oops gdb.
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> xxgdb - An X front-end to the GNU debugger gdb
[11:28] <drecute> one of my filesystem failed to mount and now i can't reach the login tty
[11:29] <drecute> at recovery mode, the filesystem is in read-only mode
[11:29] <drecute> how do I edit /etc/fstab in read-only mode?
[11:30] <As001> Hi I just connected my computer to tv with hdmi cable and I have picture on tv but mouse goes over monitor not over tv. Can you tell me which settings I need to check to change that ?
[11:30] <LinuxMonkey> drecute:  remount the file system in RW
[11:30] <theadmin> drecute: You don't... Remount it read-write: mount -o remount,rw /
[11:31] <manu> ola
[11:31] <As001> drecute I think you should remount to RW with mount command and then edit
[11:31] <manu> hay alguien español
[11:31] <manu> ¿???
[11:31] <theadmin> !es | manu
[11:31] <Guest63632> ola alguien ke me pueda ayudar
[11:31] <stephanmg> nemiver looks quite nice.
[11:31] <Guest63632> con mi targeta de red wifi en ubuntu 10.04?
[11:32] <LjL> !es | Guest63632
[11:32] <As001> wired thing all icons on desktop are on monitor and startup line is on tv and mouse is moving on montor. How can I tell to my system that it should display everything on tv not on monitor ?
[11:33] <Guest63632> do you any thing help me??
[11:33] <windywoo> Hello does anyone think they can help me make standby work?
[11:33] <Guest63632> need help about ubuntu 10.04 with my target wirrless rt 5390
[11:34] <theadmin> Can anyone running the MATE desktop environment confirm that it no longer breaks GNOME? That's so according to their site, but I want to be sure
[11:35] <windywoo> I have MATE and Gnome installed at the moment
[11:35] <windywoo> I don't have any problems in Gnome
[11:35] <zombifier> theadmin, AFAIK MATE no longer uses GNOME tools, it uses rebranded ones instead, so it shouldn't.
[11:35] <theadmin> windywoo: Great, thanks :)
[11:35] <theadmin> zombifier: Thanks to you too
[11:36] <windywoo> *cough* standby issues *cough*
[11:37] <theadmin> windywoo: What do you mean by "standby"? Suspend? Hibernate?
[11:37] <windywoo> Suspend
[11:37] <windywoo> It looks like it will suspend then it powers up again
[11:38] <theadmin> Meh... Had the same problem, not sure how to fix it either :/
[11:38] <windywoo> I'm pretty sure this is something to do with the new power saving things in the kernel
[11:38] <windywoo> Because this used to happen in Windows
[11:38] <polishguy94> Hello! I have a problem: animation in system is not fluent (but It used to be) it's slow in both applications and system itself
[11:39] <windywoo> But in Windows I could tell it which devices were allowed to wake
[11:39] <nmvictor> ubuntu 12.04 is the slowest version  of ubuntu, apt-get upgrade has taken me through the longest wait ever as it unpacks a 200MB upgrades. I have never experienced such delays in ubuntu, 11.10 on this machine was waorking smoothely so dont even thick of pointing your finger to my hardware specs. Wonderring why this steady move to poor performance, COZ CANONICAL COULD LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS UNITY SHIT. Thats it! Good bye ubu
[11:39] <polishguy94> I have a AMD phenom II 955 processor, two years old samsung hdd, 2 gigs of ram and ATi HD4850
[11:40] <zombifier> nmvictor: bye then. But, I still wonder why your Internet speed has something to do with your system's speed.
[11:40] <theadmin> nmvictor: If you want a more lightweight Ubuntu edition, give Xubuntu or Lubuntu a go. Xubuntu is a good choice if you miss GNOME 2, it's similar. Then again, if you just want GNOME, install gnome-shell, remove Unity, problem solved.
[11:40] <theadmin> zombifier: He's complaining about install times, not download
[11:41] <zombifier> oh
[11:41] <theadmin> Then again, dpkg never really was "fast" in any way so I can't quite see the problem
[11:41] <windywoo> He's gone
[11:41] <windywoo> Before you could reply
[11:41] <theadmin> Ah well then.
[11:42] <zombifier> Oh well. People who rants without figuring out it's either their own problem or Canonical's are not welcomed anyway.
[11:42] <Blackshirt> What the differences between them?
[11:42] <windywoo> This is technical support channel
[11:42] <windywoo> Why rant here?
[11:42] <windywoo> Just dumb
[11:42] <zombifier> One word: Troll.
[11:43] <theadmin> Eh stop it guys, you're just feeding the (now gone) troll, let's resume the normal support routine shall we?
[11:43] <windywoo> Does anyone know how I would tell Ubuntu not to let keyboard and mouse wake it from sleep?
[11:43] <windywoo> That's what I used to do in Windows
[11:43] <windywoo> I think it's worth trying
[11:43] <krababbel> windywoo: i'd try in bios first
[11:44] <windywoo> There are very few options in the BIOS
[11:44] <windywoo> This is a netbook
[11:44] <krababbel> windywoo: OK
[11:44] <fasta> He (?) is right, though.
[11:45] <Blackshirt> !tell blackshirt opencl
[11:45] <zykotick9> !msgthebot | Blackshirt
[11:46] <theadmin> Blackshirt: Wrong channel, probably. The syntax for ubottu to send factoids to another user is "!factoid | person" (in-channel) or "!factoid > person" (in PM).
[11:46] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[11:47] <SKullB0x> where is nginx config file saved in ubuntu 11.10?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> SKullB0x:  you could try a 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate nginx'
[11:48] <ufrgs> Could someone help me to figure out how to change my user password on Ubuntu please? I've tried to go through the main Users Control Panel but it doesn't accept a simple password, just a complex one.
[11:48] <sirknight> hi
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> ufrgs:  sudo passwd usernameyouwanttochange
[11:48] <theadmin> ufrgs: sudo passwd USERNAME for any user, or simply "passwd" (for current user)
[11:49] <ufrgs> Ok, thank you guys!
[11:49] <ufrgs> How do I figure current user?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> who did you login as? ;)
[11:49] <ufrgs> Which command?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> terminal -  the 'whoami' command
[11:49] <zombifier> whoami
[11:49] <ufrgs> Ok, thank you! ;)
[11:50] <zombifier> Got beaten :P
[11:50] <theadmin> ufrgs: echo $USER
[11:50] <theadmin> ...geez, what's the point of a separate command for that... Oh well
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> im thinking that theres times when you are su'd or sudo'd the 2 may differ.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> but i just barely recall reading/seeing that once. it may have been some other oddball case
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> whoami man page --> Print the user name associated with the current effective user ID.  Same as id -un.
[11:51] <theadmin> perl -e 'print $<' # Seems to work with sudo, su, and normal login :P
[11:52] <windywoo> Surely someone here is an expert on suspend?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> id -un   prints the same thing. ;P
[11:52] <theadmin> But that's just my weird habit to make up complicated simplicity
[11:53] <ufrgs> theadmin, where echo $USER came from?
[11:53] <ufrgs> Both works just fine.
[11:53] <Dr_Willis>  $whatever are system varianbles
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> variables
[11:53] <drecute> thanks LinuxMonkey theadmin
[11:53] <theadmin> ufrgs: $USER is an environment variable containing the username
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> try 'set' to see them all ;)
[11:53] <ufrgs> :^) cool, always learning.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> I may be thinking of EUID vs UID  for effective User Id.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> i forget how/when the EUID and UID differ.
[11:54] <zombifier> set | less
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> set | more
[11:54] <zombifier> if you don't want it to fill your screen
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[11:55] <theadmin> "more"? Seriously? People still use that? lol
[11:56] <MagePsycho> hi guys
[11:56] <MagePsycho> i have patched using patch -p0 -f < 1.6.2.0-1.7.0.0.diff
[11:56] <MagePsycho> how can i reverse the patch (undo) ?
[11:57] <sss_> hello everyone
[11:57] <fasta> theadmin: you get it for free with such tools as whoami.
[11:57] <chigy> Privaaaaaa!!!!!
[11:57] <geirha> MagePsycho: -R
[11:57] <MagePsycho> patch -p0 -R < 1.6.2.0-1.7.0.0.diff ?
[11:57] <fasta> theadmin: it would likely be better to split up all those tools and provide a meta package containing less instead of more.
[11:57] <theadmin> fasta: I know that much, but same applies for "less". Which is more functional
[11:57] <geirha> MagePsycho: yes
[11:57] <fasta> theadmin: yes, I also don't use it; I'd say it's obsolete.
[11:57] <MagePsycho> thanks geirha
[11:58] <theadmin> fasta: "more" can be useful if /usr failes to mount for whatever reason -- it's located in /bin
[11:58] <fasta> theadmin: why not put less in /bin then?
[11:59] <theadmin> fasta: Heh, good point, but I'm not sure if you can just copy it over
[11:59] <escott> theadmin, you realize they are the same binary right?
[12:00] <theadmin> escott: What are?
[12:00] <zombifier> less == more? nope
[12:00] <windywoo> Just testing if I'm still here
[12:00] <ashwinharry_>  I am unable to open a lot of websites in Ubuntu 12.04. The browser shows loading forever for a particular set of websites, including facebook and wordpress. However, I am able to access these websites through theproxyfree.com. This happens in all the browsers and even for wget.
[12:01] <escott> theadmin, ohh nevermind i just saw that /usr/bin/less was symlinked to /bin/less and read it as /bin/more
[12:01] <theadmin> escott: less and more aren't: diff $(which less) $(which more) # Binary files /bin/more and /usr/bin/less differ
[12:01] <fasta> theadmin: less is already on /bin
[12:01] <sulaiman> Hi, ubuntu is only allowing me to pick "Point-to-Point Tunelling Protocol (PPTP) when connecting to VPN
[12:01] <theadmin> fasta: Hm, odd, not in my case, guess that's Ubuntu-specific
[12:01] <theadmin> sulaiman: You need to install other VPN plugins: sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn # And such
[12:01] <pikkachu> hi, how to add a custom entry for windows in grub's custom.cfg? windows is not recognized anymore, and due to a mistake old custom.cfg with simple windows entry was deleted. The entry from grub.cfg for the other windows in my pc seems overcomplicated to be copied, compared to the said lost entry
[12:02] <pikkachu> it's grub 2
[12:02] <alphanoop> I have bought a cheap server off ebay and have it on my LAN. I have installed Ubuntu Server 12.04. Where is a good place to learn to create and administer a website?
[12:02] <sulaiman> theadmin, okay, thanks.
[12:03] <fasta> alphanoop: what kind of website? The next Google or how cool your cat looks like?
[12:03] <alphanoop> My cool cat :)
[12:03] <theadmin> alphanoop: That's not an Ubuntu question to be honest.
[12:03] <windywoo> pikkachu I think you need to type gksu gedit etc/default/grub
[12:03] <windywoo> Then add the entry for Windows there
[12:03] <windywoo> Then sudo update-grub
[12:04] <windywoo> I don't really know what the entry should be =(
[12:04] <alphanoop> theadmin: sorry
[12:04] <fasta> alphanoop: searching on google for "how to create a website" should tell you that.
[12:04] <lelamal> !grub2 | pikkachu
[12:04] <theadmin> pikkachu: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2#Microsoft_Windows_Entry
[12:04] <zombifier> alphanoop: you can google on how to set up a simple LAMP server.
[12:04] <fasta> alphanoop: and "how to setup a webserver on ubuntu" should answer the other question
[12:05] <fasta> alphanoop: and reading the manual for your webserver from start to end will make you understand what you are doing :)
[12:05] <alphanoop> Thanks. I had Googled, but there is a lot of information for a beginner. I was looking for a recommended place to start
[12:06] <zombifier> Dunno, but anything with LAMP and Ubuntu in it is good
[12:06] <theadmin> alphanoop: Try #ubuntu-offtopic (it still ain't an Ubuntu question)
[12:06] <ashwinharry_>  I am unable to open a lot of websites in Ubuntu 12.04. The browser shows loading forever for a particular set of websites, including facebook and wordpress. However, I am able to access these websites through theproxyfree.com. This happens in all the browsers and even for wget.
[12:06] <alphanoop> theadmin: ok thanks
[12:07] <zombifier> ashwinharry_: Check your DNS settings
[12:07] <ashwinharry_> but these are for specific websites only
[12:07] <theadmin> zombifier: Doesn't seem like a DNS problem to me
[12:07] <ashwinharry_> the rest work fine
[12:07] <theadmin> ashwinharry_: Does it happen in other operating systems?
[12:07] <ddave_> hello
[12:07] <zombifier> Hard to tell if it's related to your ISP or Ubuntu itself
[12:07] <BlueWolf> Hi I am trying to wipe my hard drive with zero's just to learn how to do it, I am using an old computer so if it blows up it's not a loss. I am using Ubuntu 7.04 on a Pentium 4 which is ....Slow..... I tried this and its saying permission denied? ( http://www.marksanborn.net/howto/wiping-a-hard-drive-with-dd/ ) Help
[12:08] <ashwinharry_> I use dhcp so the dns is assigned by the ISP
[12:08] <ddave_> could you please tell me how to stream mp3 from my ubuntu desktop
[12:08] <fasta> BlueWolf: you need to be root.
[12:08] <zombifier> BlueWolf: You need admin priviliges. Try appending sudo to the beginning
[12:08] <escott> BlueWolf, you won't be able to wipe it while you have it mounted
[12:08] <theadmin> BlueWolf: for i in /dev/sd* ; do sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=$i ; done
[12:08] <windywoo> Bluewolf I would use dban boot and nuke
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> ddave_:  depends on what sort of client you want listining to the streams
[12:09] <BlueWolf> windywoo: I want to learn how to Zero it
[12:09] <windywoo> okey dokey
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> ddave_:  upnp/dlna servers like ushare, plex, mediatomb,  or others can work well.. or a shoutcast server
[12:11] <ddave_> tnx Dr_Willis  could u give me some link?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> ddave_:  some are in the repos. others you go to their homepage and download.
[12:11] <BlueWolf> theadmin: It's saying "No such file or directory"?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> ddave_:  it all depends on the details.
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> !info ushare
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> !info mediatomb
[12:12] <ddave_> tnx Dr_Willis
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Plex has android app and a Roku Channel  app i just noticed. :) how.. handy
[12:17] <sulaiman> theadmin, i didn't find any network-manager-* package for l2tp, there's one for pptp, vpnc, openvpn and openconnect though
[12:17] <theadmin> sulaiman: Uh, that's because L2TP and PPTP are the same thing?
[12:17] <sulaiman> theadmin, sorry, newbie her
[12:17] <theadmin> sulaiman: Well, pretty much. Try with PPTP, it *should* work
[12:17] <SPhcT> hello, is there any way how i can see CPU and GPU temps..?
[12:18] <BlueWolf> theadmin: I put it in as this ( sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ) but is not doing anything in the terminal, is it working? Or my Pentium 4 is very very slow, only 256MB of Ram?
[12:19] <theadmin> BlueWolf: ...So you really have an IDE hard drive? Jeebus. Oh well, uh, if it appears to be "not doing anything" it's likely doing something. Linux normally is silent.
[12:19] <escott> BlueWolf, it will just take a long time
[12:19] <rabbi1> is it ok to add webmin on 12.04 ?
[12:19] <ikonia> nope
[12:19] <ikonia> webmin is not "ok" on any platform
[12:20] <rabbi1> ikonia: any alternate solution ?
[12:20] <ikonia> rabbi1: I sit on the harsh side of the fence that believes if you need to use a web interface to manage your machine, you really shouldn't manage the machine
[12:20] <c0deMaster> how DNS resolving works in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:20] <ikonia> c0deMaster: in what respect ?
[12:21] <rabbi1> ikonia: ok, will go with it ...
[12:21] <theadmin> ikonia: That's a good one :)
[12:22] <theadmin> *writes down*
[12:22] <BlueWolf> theadmin: Ok just wait. I would rather practice on an old machine so that if it blows up then it's nothing to cry about. Yes it is an IDE hard drive unfortunately. Is the code correct that I entered ( sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda )
[12:22] <lun4tic> Anyone in here familiar with the unity src? I just wanna know which files are responsible for the launcher
[12:22] <Lunar_Lander> hi there, I just got a strange behaviour in Netstat when connecting to ICQ on Pidgin, I could see that "Send-Q" had a value of about 100 to 400 just when idling, then checked on Wireshark and only found the normal talk between PC and Router, but no real traffic to the ICQ server. Then Pidgin said that the connection to ICQ had timed out. can this be related?
[12:22] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Looks right, yes. "hdXY" are IDE, "sdXY" are SATA, just so you know
[12:22] <[NNUser]> what is my nickname?
[12:22] <ikonia> Lunar_Lander: if the connection has timed out...there will be no traffic
[12:23] <ikonia> [NNUser]:
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> ikonia, yeah, I mean that behaviour was before timing out
[12:23] <rabbi1> what should be the permission for my web folder, i have 755 now. and i am unable to edit file.....
[12:23] <ikonia> rabbi1: permissions will depend on how your machine is setup and what application is requesting what
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> like if Pidgin tried to contact the server, ikonia
[12:23] <ill1cit> ok
[12:23] <theadmin> rabbi1: That looks right, and you need to be root. Well, or you can 777 it and give everyone access. Or add yourself to the group the folder belongs to and make it 775
[12:23] <ill1cit> fixed
[12:23] <escott> BlueWolf, if the /dev/hda is the correct device then its correct. if hda is wrong you are creating a giant file of zeros in your /dev
[12:24] <ikonia> Lunar_Lander: well, it's probably timed out because there is no data in that situation
[12:24] <ill1cit> i was NNUser
[12:24] <BlueWolf> 	
[12:24] <BlueWolf> theadmin: Ya I know. looks like it's working. It's only a 40GB hard disk. It's ancient I know - My first computer :D
[12:24] <ill1cit> :D
[12:24] <FloodBot1> ill1cit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <Lunar_Lander> ikonia, yeah, that might be. that also seems to be the most "technical" solution/answer, as malware can't be the reason there
[12:25] <c0deMaster> ikonia, starting from hitting enter in the browser to open URL,  I want to know the whole flow  regarding bind, resolvconf etc..
[12:25] <ikonia> Lunar_Lander: I have no idea why you are referencing malware.
[12:25] <rabbi1> theadmin: 775 is better
[12:25] <BlueWolf> theadmin: Are you going to be on here for a while? I will let you know when something happens. Its it going to not do anything until it's done?
[12:25] <Lunar_Lander> ikonia, ah I was a windows user 2000-mid-2011, then switched to ubuntu, still haven't fully adjusted in that respect, sorry
[12:25] <ikonia> c0deMaster: normal dns requests are application -> libresolv -> query/lookup -> libresolv -> back to application
[12:26] <ikonia> c0deMaster: however ubuntu 12.04 has added dnsmasq into the mix, which makes it a little more complex
[12:26] <ikonia> Lunar_Lander: again, from a windows perspective, I have no idea why you reference malware
[12:26] <c0deMaster> ikonia, yeah thats what i want to know about dnsmasq and the whole flow
[12:26] <theadmin> BlueWolf: I dunno how long I'm going to be here. But it looks like it's working so I wouldn't bother worrying
[12:27] <ikonia> c0deMaster: basically application -> libresolv -> dnsmasq -> lookup -> libresolv -> applications.
[12:27] <Lunar_Lander> ikonia, ah ok, I always thought that strange traffic could be a sign of something being wrong, thus I mentioned that
[12:28] <c0deMaster> ikonia, where in the configuration file I can configure that so I can skip dnsmasq for example or disable resolvconf from updating DNS servers ?
[12:28] <rabbi1> if i say "sudo chmod 777 folder" will it add the permission to entire folders and subfolders and files of just the root folder ?
[12:28] <BlueWolf> theadmin: But how do I actually know it's not saying anything in the terminal. The courser is just flashing with my code above it? But the light is flickering.
[12:28] <ikonia> c0deMaster: well, resolv.conf is referencing 127.0.0.1 which is bascially dnsmasq, so disabling it there would be a good move, you can simpley remove dnsmasq
[12:29] <theadmin> rabbi1: No, it will just set permissions to the folder itself, add -R for recursion
[12:29] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Eh, your $PS1 will appear as soon as it's done
[12:29] <rabbi1> theadmin: thx
[12:30] <BlueWolf> theadmin: Ok I'll be waiting. Thanks man. :D
[12:30] <escott> rabbi1, and recursively setting files and folders to 777 is probably not what you want (you probably only want to set files to 666)
[12:30] <c0deMaster> thanks ikonia , btw: whats the purpose of the dnsmasq?
[12:31] <Zombifier> I was wondering the same thing
[12:31] <ikonia> c0deMaster: as I understand it the reason ubuntu put it in was to help with vpn dns resolution outside the vpn connection, personally I think it's a waste/overkill, but there maybe more reasoning beyond that
[12:31] <escott> rabbi1, so you it might be better to use a chmod o+w or use find to distinguish between files and folders
[12:31] <Zombifier> I heard that dnsmasq may reduce the security of your system, since it opens your system to DNS based attacks
[12:32] <rabbi1> escott: permissions of folder will vary a large on the folders, but to go as of now, i think i am okay with 666 or 777
[12:32] <c0deMaster> ikonia, i cant find any configuration files for dnsmasq
[12:32] <ikonia> c0deMaster: why are you looking for dnsmasq config ?
[12:32] <c0deMaster> ikonia, to get to it more and try to optimize  it
[12:33] <ikonia> optimise it ?
[12:33] <ikonia> overdub: what are you talking about optimize it ?
[12:33] <theadmin> ...How can you "optimize" DNS resolution?
[12:33] <c0deMaster> tune it
[12:33] <ikonia> overdub: sorry, that was meant for c0deMaster
[12:33] <ssta> dnsmasq has almost nothing to tune
[12:33] <ikonia> c0deMaster: what do you mean tune it, what are you referencing ?
[12:33] <c0deMaster> ssta, ikonia set the dns servers that used by dnsmasq
[12:34] <ikonia> c0deMaster: it IS the dns server
[12:34] <ssta> basically it slaves requests for stuff it didn't allocate to the real nameserver...it only serves itself stuff that it has allocated
[12:35] <ikonia> ssta: best description I've seen, nice
[12:35] <c0deMaster> ikonia, i mean where it requests name resolution from outside name servers
[12:35] <ssta> it's really only useful if you want to dhcp up a lan and have the systems be able to resolve each other.  Otherwise, it's not really good for much
[12:35] <ikonia> ssta: I agree, it's a pointless implementation
[12:36] <c0deMaster> ssta, so resolvconf is responsible for communicating with real DNS servers?
[12:36] <ssta> ikonia: oh, I dunno...I find it *very* useful.  If it's the thing you need exactly, then it's a good implementation of that thing.  It's just not a general purpose nameserver
[12:37] <ikonia> ssta: but it's such a small group who need that function, it seems overkill to put it into the solution as defualt
[12:37] <ssta> ikonia: it's installed by default on ubuntu these days?!
[12:37] <ssta> whose bright idea was that?
[12:37] <ikonia> ssta: 12.04 it's the default resolver
[12:37] <SPhcT> hello, is there any way how i can see CPU and GPU temps..?
[12:37] <ssta> seriously?  That's umm...an interesting choice
[12:38] <escott> !info sensors | SPhcT
[12:38] <escott> !info lm-sensors | SPhcT
[12:38] <Guest57555> ubuntu-tweak take like forever to install one application, how do i stop it
[12:39] <SPhcT> escott, so i need install lm-sensors..?
[12:39] <escott> SPhcT, that will take care of cpu temps. maybe also gpu
[12:40] <SPhcT> escott, ok ty for that... maybe you now some ways how make ubuntu eye-candy..?
[12:42] <lizzin> what is a good pdf reader? xpdf keeps segfaulting on one of my files. the file opens up under osx and even with 'gv' on this ubuntu box. but 'gv' lacks certain features. what other reader is recommended besides xpdf?
[12:42] <escott> lizzin, evince
[12:43] <Guest57555> lizzin i think you can try eliance
[12:43] <Guest57555> lizzin i think you can try evince - take a look at www.linuxappfinder.com
[12:43] <lizzin> escott: ill check that out. thanks
[12:44] <lizzin> Guest57555: evince is what you meant when you said 'eliance'?
[12:44] <Guest57555> yes lizzin, i meant evince
[12:44] <escott> SPhcT, you might want conky
[12:44] <lizzin> ok
[12:44] <Zombifier> Yes. Evince is the default PDF reader in Ubuntu and it works well.
[12:44] <Guest57555> having another conversation too, lol
[12:45] <lizzin> boom! it worked. it even provides index names(chapter names). escott Guest57555, thanks
[12:46] <Guest57555> you welcome lizzin
[12:47] <SPhcT> escott, if i install conky do I need lm-sensors?
[12:47] <escott> SPhcT, yes
[12:47] <vlt> Hello. How can I unmount a usb drive w/o losing the device node?
[12:47] <escott> SPhcT, and conky is just a suggestion you might like something else more, but you said eyecandy
[12:48] <SPhcT> escott, eyecandy was about ubuntu it self... :)
[12:48] <theadmin> vlt: sudo umount /dev/sdz500, no?
[12:48] <vlt> theadmin: and as user?
[12:48] <Benkinooby> hi my middle-mouse-button copy functions does not work any more. i was not able to google any useful hints on that. reboot did not help. any ideas?
[12:48] <theadmin> vlt: Uuuuuuh... Not sure how nautilus really mounts devices nowadays...
[12:49] <SPhcT> escott, I use it only few months and still with default view
[12:49] <Benkinooby> oh, it still works
[12:49] <theadmin> vlt: As far as I recall, right-click the device in Nautilus and choose "Unmount"
[12:49] <Benkinooby> hm...
[12:51] <Benkinooby> can some1 please do the following: oben gedit, type some letters, mark them, press middle mousebutton
[12:52] <jrib> Benkinooby: why?
[12:52] <vlt> theadmin: The context menu in Nautilus only offers something I’d translate to “eject” and “remove safely”.
[12:53] <theadmin> Benkinooby: Don't know about gedit (don't want that monstrousity on my system), but works fine in gvim... Then again I'm not on Ubuntu atm, guess that's not helpful
[12:53] <theadmin> vlt: Eh... Well... uh... Try them both and see which it is
[12:53] <vlt> theadmin: Already did that. And then the device node /dev/sdX was gone.
[12:54] <vlt> theadmin: In both cases.
[12:54] <theadmin> vlt: Weird nautilus is weird. I suggest you use "pmount" to mount devices as an unpriveleged user, it seems to work nicely and at least makes sense
[12:55] <vlt> theadmin: Is there a pumount command? I want to unmount it.
[12:55] <ufrgs> Is there a way to reduce the font size from window sidebar when its on tree mode by any chance?
[12:55] <gry> 'umount'
[12:55] <theadmin> vlt: Yes, "pumount" it is -- but I think you have to install pmount first
[12:55] <gry> oh, or that; ignore me
[12:57] <ubuntu>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[12:58] <vlt> aaargh … tried `fusermount -u` but it complains about missing /dev/sdc4 entry in /etc/mtab, although it actually is there o_O
[13:01] <Benkinooby> jrib, seems like i cant middle-mouse-button-copy text right next to the marked text
[13:03] <Sidewinder> Benkinooby, My middle button, in gedit does not copy; at least not the way you requested, above.
[13:04] <mikkelb> I'm trying to mass-download all spreadsheets off this site. Anybody know why this won't seem to fetch any .xls files? wget -m http://survivalware.wordpress.com/ -A xls
[13:06] <Sidewinder> Benkinooby, Perhaps the "middle-button copy" was part of a gedit plug-in or some such that has been removed, reconfigured?
[13:06] <ssta> Benkinooby: it's a known bug in gtk/gedit.  See #81009
[13:06] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder, hm... i am not sure it ever copied the way i described...
[13:06] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder, it just now came to my attention that it does not
[13:07] <Wishing_Master> >:o
[13:07] <ssta> well, "bug" to most people...to the gnome maintainers it's probably a "feature"
[13:07] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder, otherwise the middle-mouse-button-copy works as expected
[13:08] <Sidewinder> Benkinooby, Well, in the grand scheme of things, I can think of worse malfunctions..
[13:08] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder, nah.. i just waned to chekc if i misconfigured something (because i never noticed that beahviour before)
[13:09] <mikkelb> you guys HAVE to help me
[13:09] <mikkelb> there is NO OTHER WAY
[13:09] <Benkinooby> ssta how can i view that bug...
[13:09] <ssta> Benkinooby: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/81009
[13:09] <Benkinooby> ssta thank you
[13:09] <stars69> i just install ssh, and restarted service, i can connected from sftp but not ssh terminal do anyone know how to fix it?
[13:09] <mikkelb> ssta: please!
[13:10] <LjL> !please
[13:10] <mikkelb> help a brother out!
[13:10] <ssta> it's a case of gnome deciding to do stuff differently from the rest of the world I think
[13:10] <mikkelb> LjL: hehe yeah you're right
[13:10] <mikkelb> !youre_right
[13:11] <escott> stars69, what happens when you try to connect with ssh?
 Avoid giving people worthless praise which only boosts their ego and makes them arrogant. This just contributes to giving this channel bad vibes. If you want to thank somebody, use /msg.
[13:11] <Sidewinder> LjL, Is that "please" factoid a new one? I just don't recall seeing it before. tia.
[13:11] <IdleOne> Sidewinder: it doesn't get used often
[13:12] <stars69> escott, it said server is not response
[13:12] <Sidewinder> IdleOne, Thanx.
[13:12] <mikkelb> * use /msg or your genitals.
[13:12] <mikkelb> that's more like it
[13:12] <ikonia> mikkelb: that is unacceptable
[13:12] <escott> stars69, ? can you just paste the output of ssh -vv user@host
[13:12] <ikonia> mikkelb: pleae do not make that sort of comment
[13:13] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder, ssta thank you both for your input
[13:13] <Sidewinder> NP.
[13:14] <ssta> no worries.  Good luck with it
[13:14] <stars69> escott, i used different port other then default is that ok,?
[13:14] <stars69> escott, i used different port other then default is that ok,?
[13:15] <escott> stars69, if you just pasted something i missed it. my irc client crased
[13:15] <stars69> escott, i used different port other then default is that ok,?
[13:15] <escott> stars69, if its configured correctly it shouldnt matter
[13:17] <drecute> please I need help with this: http://markmail.org/message/6y4j7f7u6bvvve5f
[13:17] <stars69> escott, http://pastebin.ca/2154461
[13:18] <stars69> escott, custom port is forwarding on router to that pc's internal ip
[13:18] <stars69> escott, i can connect to sftp, but not ssh terminal
[13:18] <SPhcT> is there alternative to sensors-applet?
[13:19] <escott> stars69, that shows you coming in on port 22 so i dont know why you keep mentioning a non-standard port. what does sftp -vv user@host show
[13:20] <escott> SPhcT, probably but i dont know wha
[13:20] <SPhcT> escott, i find sensors for HDD and CPU but only comandline way..
[13:21] <stars69> escott, i changed sshd_config file to my custom port
[13:21] <ssta> stars69: if you're using a different port, you have to tell ssh what port to use: ssh -p 1234 user@host
[13:21] <escott> stars69, you may have changed the server but you forgot to tell the client. make the appropriate modifications to ~/.ssh/config
[13:21] <stars69> ssta, thanks
[13:21] <ssta> stars69: the client doesn't know what port you are using
[13:23] <stars69> ssta, and escott got it thanks
[13:23] <escott> SPhcT, and i dont know what guis are out there
[13:27] <SPhcT> escott, i find one.. :) psensor it is ok..
[13:27] <SPhcT> just for you to know!
[13:29] <pooltable> hi looking for an Amiga cd 32 emu ?
[13:29] <LjL> !info uae > pooltable
[13:29] <LjL> !info e-uae > pooltable
[13:30] <pooltable> uae works ?
[13:30] <LjL> pooltable: i believe it has a CD32 mode.
[13:30] <LjL> pooltable: it's your best bet, anyway; i'm not aware of any specific CD32 emulators
[13:31] <pooltable> ok thanks i was not sure if uae will work
[13:32] <pooltable> what the different uae end euae?
[13:32] <killer> hi guys i need some help in compiling
[13:33] <LjL> pooltable: i think E-UAE ported some WinUAE features back to the original UAE, but it's now unmaintained. it might have better CD32 support, though
[13:34] <rudolfl> Hi, all
[13:34] <rudolfl> Can someone give me  hand with video setup?
[13:35] <ignacio> hi
[13:36] <sobaz> i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and 'auto lo' and 'iface' are listed as commands not found
[13:36] <sobaz> how do i fix this?
[13:36] <arta> how are you guyyyyyyyyy
[13:37] <ssta> sobaz: they're parts of the /etc/network/interfaces file.  You don't type them on the command line
[13:37] <sobaz> oh derp ya i just read it wrong xD
[13:37] <sobaz> complete noob to linux :(
[13:37] <ufrgs> Is there a way to remove title tab bar on teminal when working with multiple tabs by any chance?
[13:38] <sobaz> reading the 2010 linux guide to ubuntu
[13:38] <ufrgs> and fullscreen of course.
[13:38] <gapagos> hello
[13:38] <ufrgs> I mean when on fullscreen mode :P
[13:38] <gapagos> my installation of ubuntu is stuck at "retrlieving file 43 of 105", but the CD keeps spinning, is this normal?
[13:39] <gapagos> by stuck, i mean that I've left my computer run overnight for 6 hours and it's still there
[13:39] <ssta> gapagos: no, I'd say there's something wrong
[13:39] <ufrgs> and does anybody knows a better terminal app then default Terminal one?
[13:39] <ssta> ufrgs: better how?
[13:40] <ufrgs> ssta, with more possibilities.
[13:40] <gapagos> ssta, this is the 2nd time I try installing, there is a skip button (I think it's downloading updates), but when I tried the 1st time, the installation was supposedly sucessful but I could not boot sucessfully
[13:40] <ssta> ufrgs: a bit vague.
[13:40] <ufrgs> ssta, like iTerm for MacOS.
[13:40] <ssta> I've never used that
[13:41] <ufrgs> ssta, and which one do you use other then terminal one?
[13:41] <Sidewinder> gapagos, Did you md5sum the ubuntu ISO, prior to burning it, at the slowest speed, to the CD?
[13:41] <gapagos> ssta: last time I tried installing (and skipping files), grub gave me the error "no such disk"
[13:41] <ssta> ufrgs: any, they all run screen the same way...
[13:41] <sandrobilly> ciao
[13:42] <sandrobilly> list
[13:42] <ssta> gapagos: I dunno why it would do that.  Definitely it shouldn't stop for 6 hours.  Maybe try burning the disk again?
[13:42] <Sidewinder> !list | sandrobilly
[13:42] <drecute> please I need help with this: http://markmail.org/message/6y4j7f7u6bvvve5f
[13:42] <BlueWolf> I have just recently Wiped a 40GB IDE hard disk with Zeros on Ubuntu 7.04 by entering this code ( sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ) now this is what it's telling me ( dd: writing to /dev/hda' No space left on device )  ( 78242977+0 records in )  ( 78242976+0 records  out )  ( 40060403712 bytes (40GB) copied, 2825.25 seconds, 14.2 Mb/s
[13:42] <ufrgs> ssta, for example? any particular reason someone would use one in special?
[13:42] <ssta> ufrgs: evefryone has different needs.
[13:42] <gapagos> ssta, I don't have that many CDs right now and I'm sure the CD is fine I've burned it slowly and there are no scratches
[13:42] <ufrgs> or any spacial reason someone would use one in particular...
[13:43] <salvador_> heello
[13:43] <salvador_> hello need some help
[13:43] <gapagos> I'm pretty sure it's something related to software/hardware
[13:43] <salvador_> i cant watch online videos
[13:43] <ufrgs> ssta, could you tell me one example please?
[13:43] <ssta> ufrgs: not that I know of, no.  I run byobu inside it, so they all pretty much work the same for me
[13:43] <escott> BlueWolf, so whats the question
[13:43] <gapagos> plus I'm already using the live cd right now
[13:43] <salvador_> it appear "flv player missing"
[13:43] <salvador_> what can i do
[13:43] <salvador_> thanks
[13:43] <ssta> ufrgs: xterm?  (very basic), pterm (the terminal editor from putty)...
[13:43] <BlueWolf> escott: I don't know, is it done?
[13:43] <BlueWolf> :d
[13:43] <gapagos> actually the CD stops playing most of the time
[13:44] <salvador_> hello? some help pls
[13:44] <gapagos> I think it's only playing because I'm using the live CD
[13:44] <gapagos> the CD doesn't appear to be struggling
[13:44] <ufrgs> ssta, do you work on fullscreen mode with more then one tab at once by any chance?
[13:44] <gapagos> I'd guess it's the server of whatver file 43 that won't connect
[13:44] <ssta> gapagos: there's clearly something wrong somewhere...
[13:45] <escott> BlueWolf, it wrote 40GB at 14.2 Mb/s. was the disk 40GB? yes. were all the records that were read also written (in vs out)? yes. is the disk out of space? yes. is it done? yes
[13:45] <ssta> ufrgs: byobu doesn't have "tabs" as such, but it has different screens which is a similar concept.  I generally have 10 open always
[13:45] <gapagos> the thing that I don't like about this install is that it doesn't tell you whats happening
[13:45] <ubuntu-studio> Hi.I have a dual monitor configuration and when I press the first monitor the other monitor app  flash or some other application lose focus.How can i fix that.Thanks.
[13:46] <legend2440> hello, has anyone tried installing the MATE DE on Ubuntu?
[13:46] <BlueWolf> escott: Oh ok thank you, pardon me.... :-O
[13:46] <gapagos> ssta ok I clicked "skip" because this is nonsense
[13:46] <gapagos> now it's continuing with the installation "configuring hardware" like yesterday
[13:47] <gapagos> but I'm sure ill be back again when I have to restart as I doubt I'll have a grub working
[13:48] <salvador_> hello
[13:48] <salvador_> need some help with flv player
[13:48] <salvador_> im using ubuntu 11.04
[13:48] <Hayro> sokera
[13:48] <salvador_> and i cant watch online videos
[13:48] <salvador_> what can i do
[13:49] <Hayro> tatri  mincati
[13:49] <salvador_> flv player missing ?
[13:49] <salvador_> help
[13:49] <JoeDevC> yo
[13:49] <JoeDevC> Where's it gone?
[13:49] <archeyDevil> Can someone just talk for the point for testing?
[13:49]  * archeyDevil doesn't use ubuntu but apperently you guys never shutup haha
[13:49] <JoeDevC> Hi I am a talk
[13:49] <Hayro> salvador_  sokera
[13:49] <archeyDevil> :D
[13:49] <archeyDevil> Yay!
[13:49] <salvador_> what sokera
[13:49] <JoeDevC> Woop
[13:50] <salvador_> what is sokera
[13:50] <archeyDevil> irssi custom theme ftw.. Well. working on it :)
[13:50] <salvador_> i need the chat for ubuntu support
[13:50] <salvador_> so i can tell my problem
[13:51] <Hayro> sokera
[13:51] <edirne> laco  be
[13:52] <edirne> burdaki  herkezin  annesini  amini  yalayim
[13:52] <Hayro> bnde  yalayim
[13:52] <BlueWolf> escott: Ok I have just tried this ( sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda ) and it's telling me this ( sudo:  uid 999 does not exist in the passwd file! ) What now?
[13:52] <Hayro> salvador_  sokera  be
[13:52] <edirne> salvador_  sokera  be
[13:53] <rudolfl> your user is not in sudoers file
[13:53] <escott> BlueWolf, you are doing this from the livecd?
[13:53] <BlueWolf> escott: Yes
[13:53] <Hayro> S0lo  sokera
[13:53] <Hayro> Barzogh sokera
[13:53] <Hayro> h00k  sokera
[13:53] <Hayro> j0rd  sokera
[13:53] <Hayro> aarcane sokera
[13:53] <escott> BlueWolf, what is your uid in "id"
[13:54] <Slartibart> Does anyone know what http://pastebin.com/sE0nnFvh means when running u1sdtool? It needs to unpack something, but *what*??
[13:54] <Hayro> Slartibart sokera
[13:54] <BlueWolf> escott: I have no clue how to check?
[13:54] <Hayro> BlueWolf sokera
[13:54] <edirne> loco  be
[13:54] <escott> BlueWolf, "id"
[13:55] <edirne> #cvv2
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[13:55] <Hayro> #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2 #cvv2
[13:55] <FloodBot1> Hayro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <willdabeast> I had a question regarding a Wireless Network issue, I can't connect to this wireless network using any option available it seems.
[13:57] <salvador_> 28-Global-
[13:57] <BlueWolf> escott: ( uid=999 gid=999 groups=4,20,24,25,29,30,44,46,104,112,113,115,117,999 )
[13:57] <BlueWolf> ?
[13:58] <escott> BlueWolf, are you sure you did this from the livecd. what does /etc/passwd say
[13:58] <dadis> 12.04 is AWESOME!
[13:58] <willdabeast> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to connect to this wireless network?
[13:58] <dadis> willdabeast, yes, that is definitely enough information to help you
[13:59] <BlueWolf> escott: It does not say anything what I have typed is all there is. And I don't know what your asking for. Yes I did this from a live cd
[13:59] <escott> BlueWolf, cat /etc/passwd
[13:59] <willdabeast> dadis so u really think all it is is an update?
[14:00] <dadis> willdabeast, i think you should see if you can connect to other networks and go from there
[14:00] <Kruptein> Hey I wondered whether it is possible to only show the windows that are used in the current workspace in the sidebar instead of all the windows from all the ws's
[14:01] <willdabeast> dadis I can, I'm at another house right now though.
[14:01] <dadis> willdabeast, can you see it in the network list?
[14:01] <BlueWolf> escott: Do I type it. It says nothing. It does nothing
[14:01] <escott> BlueWolf, how about ls /
[14:02] <willdabeast> dadis yea, I thought it was just an issue because the option to make it WPA Personal was not available, but I went to edit connections and made it WPA Personal but it didn't fix it.
[14:02] <BlueWolf> escott: Bash:  /: Is a directory
[14:04] <escott> BlueWolf, i have no idea what is going on. my suspicion is that you didnt do this from a livecd and that you no longer have a filesystem
[14:04] <Kruptein> I can't find it anywhere on google apart from https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/683170 which doesn't give a solution
[14:04] <dadis> willdabeast, change it to WEP temporarily on the router and see what happens
[14:04] <BlueWolf> escott: I did do it from a live CD, I am still in the live CD now???
[14:05] <escott> BlueWolf, but you dont seem to have anything except the kernel and what is in memory
[14:05] <willdabeast> dadis I can't unfortunately, it's not my house haha, sorry I make it difficult.
[14:05] <BlueWolf> escott: I'm sure you know more than me at the moment?
[14:07] <BlueWolf> escott: Should I reboot into the Live CD?
[14:08] <escott> BlueWolf, i guess. i cant say what got you into this situation, but your OS doesnt seem to exist anymore
[14:10] <BlueWolf> escott: Thats kind of what I wanted, I just want to be sure that it is unrecoverable. Is it or can a super hacker get to it?
[14:10] <escott> BlueWolf, no i mean what you booted doesnt seem to exist anymore. all you seem to have is what you loaded into memory.
[14:11] <BlueWolf> 	
[14:11] <BlueWolf> escott: Now what?
[14:11] <escott> BlueWolf, maybe the livecd wrote its rootfs out to the swap space on the hda, and then when you zeroed that out you zeroed out the swap. astounding that didnt cause a panic
[14:12] <BlueWolf> escott: Interesting, I have no clue how to get it to do what I want though?
[14:12] <escott> BlueWolf, just reboot already
[14:12] <benk_> olaa
[14:13] <killer> hi guys......when i do cmake ...it can't find irrlicht which is present in /usr/include/ and hence compiling results in error
[14:13] <killer> any suggestion
[14:13] <benk_> eii
[14:13] <BlueWolf> escott: Into the live CD again or to see what happens?
[14:13] <benk_> kiilloooo
[14:13] <Kruptein> still can't find a possible way to only show the workspace related windows in the unity bar
[14:13] <benk_> f
[14:13] <benk_> a
[14:13] <benk_> k
[14:13] <Slartibart> Does anyone here use Ubuntu One / u1sdtool? It's a pita for me, really. When I try to run it from remote I get errors about X11 not running, and when run locally  I get "need more than 0 values to unpack". Google actually has nothing on this.
[14:13] <FloodBot1> benk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <benk_> l
[14:14] <escott> BlueWolf, whatever you would like
[14:14] <benk_> aaaa ok
[14:14] <LjL> benk_: stop flooding please. do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:14] <benk_> que?
[14:14] <benk_> ola jose
[14:15] <LjL> !es | benk_
[14:15] <benk_> ok gracias
[14:16] <Kruptein> also somehow my python application does not get an icon so I can't alt-tab or click on the sidebar to get to it, i have to minimize every other opened window
[14:16] <BlueWolf> escott: Ok I have rebooted into the Live CD It will take a while. I could not shut down via the shut down button as it was not there? So I rebooted manually
[14:18] <eutheria> has anyone had a strange problem with sssd where you get weird problems coming from pam, http://pastie.org/
[14:20] <Kruptein> damn those workspaces annoy me
[14:21] <hceylan> Hello, I see some unofficial CM9 ports for shooter, but cannot locate one for shooteru
[14:21] <BlueWolf> escott: ?
[14:21] <escott> BlueWolf, ?
[14:21] <kv> ?
[14:21] <Kruptein> !
[14:21] <hceylan> However I see https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_shooteru
[14:21] <BlueWolf> escott: Ok I have rebooted into the Live CD It will take a while. I could not shut down via the shut down button as it was not there? So I rebooted manually
[14:21] <hceylan> has anyone any info on the status of the device?
[14:22] <escott> BlueWolf, yes
[14:22] <BlueWolf> escott: I could not shut down via the shut down button?
[14:22] <escott> BlueWolf, yes
[14:23] <gapagos> help, when I install Ubuntu 12.04, Grub says "no such device". I used the app boot-repair in terminal to repair it but after this, I lose video after I boot from Ubuntu
[14:23] <BlueWolf> escott: Well did something not go the way it should have?
[14:23] <escott> BlueWolf, yes. i told you the entire OS disappeared.
[14:23] <gapagos> this is my 2nd install attempt, if I can't get it working ill just delete ubuntu and go back 100% windows
[14:23] <gapagos> note, the live cd for ubuntu works fine
[14:23] <action09> hi ! I'm searching for the name of a native tool (i mean in the repos) that is able to disable wifi, bluetooth, maybe 3 g, quickly and efficiently. I think there is the name 'lock' in it.. if someone remember please :)
[14:24] <BlueWolf> escott: So did it wipe the Hard disk with zero's as intended or did some miracle appear to sabotage it?
[14:24] <BlueWolf> escott: And it has loaded the Live CD. What next?
[14:24] <gapagos> can anynody help me
[14:25] <gapagos> is there a way i can boot in safe video mode or something
[14:25] <gapagos> and then download nvidia drivers
[14:26] <escott> BlueWolf, you are doing this to test because you want to learn how to do something. an unexpected thing came up. I've told you what i think happened, but if you want to figure out more you need to figure it out
[14:26] <escott> gapagos, there is a nomodeset option as well as a recovery boot option (which includes nomodeset)
[14:26] <escott> !nomodeset | gapagos
[14:26] <action09> rfkill !
[14:26] <action09> found
[14:27] <gapagos> thank you ubottu
[14:27] <BlueWolf> escott: Yes I would really like to learn how to do it. So how would I figure it out - I'm lost now?
[14:29] <escott> BlueWolf, so look some of the things i am telling you up, or ask a more specific question. don't ask "did it work" because im not going to answer that
[14:29] <escott> BlueWolf, you don't learn with that
[14:30] <BlueWolf> escott: Ok what should I look up then?
[14:30] <BlueWolf> :D
[14:30] <escott> BlueWolf, anything you would like
[14:31] <gapagos> fuck setting gub parameters is complicated
[14:31] <gapagos> whoever said Ubuntu was ready for everyone, LIED
[14:31] <BlueWolf> escott: I don't know what to do next, what do I check. What am I looking for? I am lost
[14:32] <sandyd> !language | gapagos
[14:32] <escott> gapagos, its not that hard. modify /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[14:32] <escott> BlueWolf, what do you want to do at this point
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> gapagos:  ubuntu really has very little to do with 'grub development or design'
[14:33] <Gatekeeper__> hello need help mounting a windows directory share in ubuntu
[14:33] <Gatekeeper__> can anyone help please
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__:  so what have you done/tried so far?
[14:33] <gapagos> escott, i don't see the windows option from that file, thus I can only guess this is the grub used for liveCD and not the one on my boot disk
[14:33] <peter32> join #vim
[14:33] <Gatekeeper__> ubunt 10.lts trying to automount in fstab
[14:34] <escott> gapagos, "window option" what is the "window option"
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> gapagos:  grub is not used on the live cd. thats 'syslinux' or 'isolinux' i belive
[14:34] <sandyd> gapagos: Post output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on paste.ubuntu.com
[14:34] <DexterF> hi
[14:34] <gapagos> escott, I don't see the list of choices from that file that I normally see when grub loads
[14:34] <Gatekeeper__> my windows share is 192.168.0.20\02 - Television Series --- my fstab entry is //192.168.0.20/02-Television Series /mnt/tv cifs uid=server,user=xbmc,password=xbmc 0   0
[14:34] <BlueWolf> escott: Well I would like to know if it has worked, I want to know if my hard drive has successfully been wiped. The after that I want to write over the entire drive with random data. Like it says here ( http://www.marksanborn.net/howto/wiping-a-hard-drive-with-dd/ )
[14:34] <DexterF> I'd like to write a dvd9 (unencrypted, on hard disk already!) to a dvd5. what program would be suitable?
[14:35] <NTx00100> hi all, can you install ubuntu onto your windows based system without having to intall microsoft win? and what is the difference between 32bit and 64bit (my pc is 64bit)
[14:35] <escott> gapagos, /etc/default/grub is just a set of parameters for the script update-grub which scans the hard drive for bootable OSes and kernels and generates /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:35] <sandyd> gapagos: Can you access the windows partition from inside linux?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> NTx00100:  linux is an operationg system. No windows needed at all.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> NTx00100:  boot the cd.. install.  and id go 64bit on 64bit hardware
[14:35] <Djuropedala> Anyone can tell me on which channel I can ask /discuss conky themes/issues?
[14:35] <Gatekeeper__> but i get bad fstab
 I have just recently Wiped a 40GB IDE hard disk with Zeros on Ubuntu 7.04 by entering this code ( sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ) now this is what it's telling me ( dd: writing to /dev/hda' No space left on device )  ( 78242977+0 records in )  ( 78242976+0 records  out )  ( 40060403712 bytes (40GB) copied, 2825.25 seconds, 14.2 Mb/s
[14:35] <gapagos> sandyd, from the liveCD yes I can access the windows partition
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> !alis | Djuropedala
[14:36] <NTx00100> Thanks Dr_Willis
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Djuropedala:  conky homepage  and forums have 1000s of examples and guides
[14:36] <sandyd> gapagos: try running update-grub from your Ubuntu installation
[14:36] <NTx00100> does it run better on 32Bit then?
[14:36] <Djuropedala> Thank you. :D
[14:36] <gapagos> sandyd, i can't boot ubuntu outside of LiveCD
[14:36] <gapagos> the video shuts off
[14:37] <sandyd> gapagos: The LiveCD grub menu does not contain Windows.
[14:37] <jan_> Hello
[14:37] <Gatekeeper__> anyone.... ?
[14:37] <sandyd> gapagos: I sugggest you try using nomodeset while booting.
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__:  whats your fstab entry look like?
[14:38] <Gatekeeper__> my fstab entry is //192.168.0.20/02-Television Series /mnt/tv cifs uid=server,user=xbmc,password=xbmc 0 0
[14:38] <gapagos> sandyd I still dont undersand how to use nomodset while booting
[14:38] <jan_> is there anybody from russia?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__:  tip #1 - dont use spaces in share names.. it will cause issues.
[14:38] <lelamal> !ru | jan_
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__:  if you Must. I Belive you replace the space with somnthing like \040 (i have to look it up all the time)
[14:38] <BlueWolf> escott: So it has successfully zeroed the hard disk? - (Yes/No)
 BlueWolf, it wrote 40GB at 14.2 Mb/s. was the disk 40GB? yes. were all the records that were read also written (in vs out)? yes. is the disk out of space? yes. is it done? yes
[14:39] <jan_> lelamal,are you fromm russia?
[14:39] <lelamal> jan_: no
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html#escape    how it should look.
[14:40] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis:  ive tried //192.168.0.20/020-0Television0Series /mnt/tv cifs uid=server,user=xbmc,password=xbmc 0 0 but still no luck
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> /192.168.44.100/music\040library
[14:40] <sandyd> gapagos: When you get to grub (i.e. booting from the computer, not the livecd) by pressing shift after booting, press 'e' at the kernel entry. Add a space, and then 'nomodeset' (no quotes) at the end of the line that starts with 'linux'
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__:  as i said.. You replace the space with the proper 'escape code' or fix the share on the shares server to not have a space.
[14:40] <sandyd> gapagos: And this will be helped better on the forums.
[14:40] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis: sorry for my ignorance what is the propper escape code... ?
[14:40] <gapagos> sandyd ok ill try that
[14:40] <gapagos> thanks
[14:41] <escott> Gatekeeper__, presumably "\ "
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> see above examples Gatekeeper__ .
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> escott:  not for fstab :)
[14:41] <jan_> I have a problem with installing software on ubuntu 10.10. I don't know how to install programs form tar.gz packages. can anyone help me?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> jan_:  totally depends on whats in the tar.gz
[14:41] <DexterF> NTx00100: is there already windows on that machine? do you want to kkep ti to have the choice to boot win or linux?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> !compile | jan_
[14:41] <DexterF> *keep it
[14:41] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis:  what about the - between 02 - Television will that be a problem...?
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__:  any spaces need to be fixed..  I dont use spaces in share names.. I suggest you follow that guideline. makes life much easier
[14:42] <jan_> thank you,guys
[14:42] <escott> Dr_Willis, and it has to be octal. thats annoying. although not as annoying as file/foldername with spaces in it
[14:42] <BlueWolf> escott: Thank you thats all I wanted to know, now how do I write over the entire drive with random data like it says on the site? ( sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda )
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> escott:  yep. I have to look this up about once a month. :)
[14:42] <Gatekeeper__> cool thanks...
[14:43] <solsTiCe> hi. I never had ati/amd cg so is an (agp) ATI Radeon X800XL will work with 12.04 ? with which driver ? and how well ?
[14:43] <mrtrebla> hello =)
[14:43] <escott> BlueWolf, that would read from /dev/urandom the unblocking random number generator and write to /dev/hda
[14:44] <IsmRainbow> pseudo-random*
[14:44]  * Dr_Willis dosent really see the point in randomizeing to hda
[14:45]  * solsTiCe recommands frandom over urandom. if it's available in ubuntu
[14:46] <BlueWolf> escott: Huh? 	Do I type in that code?
[14:46] <escott> BlueWolf, im getting really tired of questions like that
[14:47] <BlueWolf> escott: Yes/No
[14:47] <BlueWolf> ???
[14:47] <escott> BlueWolf, i'm adding you to my ignore list. goodluck
[14:48] <escott> solsTiCe, what package is that?
[14:49] <solsTiCe> no idea
[14:49] <escott> solsTiCe, b/c i dont have such a device
[14:49] <solsTiCe> you need a module for that http://billauer.co.il/frandom.html
[14:50] <escott> solsTiCe, ahhh missed the "if" in "if it's available in ubuntu"
[14:50] <solsTiCe> and f is for fast cause if you want to wipe ALL the hdd you don't want to wait hours just for that
[14:50] <BlueWolf> 	
[14:50] <BlueWolf> escott: Listen I apologize if I have pissed you off, I don't know what to do - honestly. I can't help it if I an not a computer Nerd like everyone else on the net. Thats why I am trying to LEARN. :'(
[14:51] <nicola_> ciao
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  why are you even doing this ramdom dd stuff?
[14:52] <IsmRainbow> solsTiCe / escott : If it doesn't have a package, you can still build it from source. I had a quick google and it seems like people were having success with that.
[14:52] <Badpenguin86> How do I find out why it is taking me so long to login?
[14:52] <IsmRainbow> Badpenguin86: 12.04 or earlier?
[14:52] <Badpenguin86> 12.04
[14:53] <IsmRainbow> had that problem in 11.10 with multi-user-login
[14:53] <jan_> escott,I am not a native speaker,so what does "piss off" mean?)))
[14:53] <BlueWolf> 	
[14:53] <BlueWolf> Dr_Willis: To learn how to Zero a Hard Disk, which looks like I have done, now all I need to do is ( sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda ) like it says on this site ( http://www.marksanborn.net/howto/wiping-a-hard-drive-with-dd/ )
[14:54] <FloodBot1> BlueWolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <tiantian> hello
[14:54] <IsmRainbow> jan_: when someone gets "pissed off" it means that they are getting mad.
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  and whats the point of doing all this?
[14:55] <jan_> gotcha) I'll put it down. thanks,IsmRainbow
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> we have had this debate in here befor about how to properly erase a hd. and how to just waste time. ;)
[14:56] <BlueWolf> Dr_Willis: To learn. To remove data of a hard disk, May be I want to sell it sometime and I don't want my personal info to be accessed. Maybe I am paranoid.
[14:56] <IsmRainbow> jan_: additionally, if someone tells someone else to "piss off", it means "go away". Both phrases are impolite, since the term "piss" is often considered profane.
[14:56] <escott> jan_, im not mad. just annoyed. i dont understand why people come into the channel and ask for help who aren't willing to make an effort
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  if you have zeroed it.. basically its gone..  spending another hr+ radomizeing it.. is pointless.
[14:57] <escott> jan_, so i dont waste my time on them
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  and if you wanted to be the most 'secure' there are actual secuer deletion tools that would do a better job of it.
[14:57] <jan_> escott,I did not call you mad)
[14:57] <IsmRainbow> jan_: he's not saying you did. He was just clarifying off of my definition
[14:58] <wawowe> BlueWolf: urandom x2 would be "secure"
[14:58] <Aspiration> Hello,everybody
[14:58] <BlueWolf> escott: listen I am making an effort, when I say I don't know or how do I do that I mean it!
[14:58] <Aspiration> How to update my system
[14:58] <Aspiration> ?
[14:59] <IsmRainbow> Aspiration: desktop or server?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Aspiration:  sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade   ;) normally
[14:59] <Aspiration> desktop
[14:59] <sandyd> Aspiration: use the update manager
[14:59] <jan_> IsmRainbow,is the phrase "kiss off" profane?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> update manager should pop up about once a week
[14:59] <BlueWolf> Dr_Willis: Ok then as a hacker how easy would it be to salvage that data? Could you give me a time line?
[14:59] <IsmRainbow> Aspiration: one of the icons on the left side should be called "Update Manager". It should automatically pop up once a week or so.
[15:00] <Aspiration> is it necessary?
[15:00] <wawowe> Aspiration: no
[15:00] <IsmRainbow> Aspiration: updates are not necessary, no, but they are recommended.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  there MIGHT be possible for profesional data services to recover it.. but we had this debate in here befor. ages ago it might have been easier. but these days.. not very likely
[15:00] <IsmRainbow> they can fix things like bugs and security problems
[15:00] <Aspiration> and should I update to the latest version?
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  if you are truely paranoid about security. you use a bulk eraser.. or a large hammer....
[15:01] <wawowe> Aspiration: could just comment out everything in sources.list except security updates
[15:01] <escott> Aspiration, "should" is not a question we can answer very well. you "should" if you are !eol, but otherwise its up to you
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> bulk eraser - very very large magnet thing. :)
[15:01] <wawowe> Aspiration: would make things less likely to break with updates
[15:01] <jan_> sorry,guys,if am getting on your nerves) but I've just encountered some phrase that I can't understand fully.
[15:02] <jan_> the phrase:"Ok then as a hacker"
[15:02] <jan_> please say this sentence in another way
[15:02] <wawowe> jan_: kiss off"
[15:02] <wawowe> jan_: wouldn't make much sense
[15:02] <IdleOne> jan_: ##english may be a better place and I think you need to provide more context
[15:02] <BlueWolf> Dr_Willis: Are you talking about physically destroying the hard drive? Or using a magnet to destroy everything on it?
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> BlueWolf:  both. :) if you really really want to be secure
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> bbl - gotta do some Honeydo jobs.
[15:04] <escott> Dr_Willis, i used to throw my old drives into a blackhole but apparently even that isnt secure enough
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> escott:  install AOL on them.. it will scare away anyone.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[15:04] <escott> :)
[15:05] <DexterF> BlueWolf: no need to even pull urandom: dd /dev/zero over it is perfectly ok. this will then overwrite all magnetic islets with a standard "0". 20 or 25 years ago there would have been a minor risk that data could have been reconstructed in a very sophisticated lab from magnetic resisdue, however, with todays small magnetic domians on a hard disk even if there *was* residual magnetization it would disappear within no time due to having dropped
[15:05] <DexterF>  in area below the paramagnetic limit where a magnteized area is not suffuiciently stable to keep itself in order
[15:05] <BlueWolf> escott: I thank you for your help, truely but your being an "idiot" now. Pardon my bad language...
[15:05] <jan_> (
[15:06] <DexterF> BlueWolf: whoops, typos
[15:06] <numbie> who is a master in truecrypt ? :D i need information
[15:06] <BlueWolf> DexterF: Thank you for the info. :D
[15:07] <tuxedo> how I chabge the keyboard _
[15:07] <DexterF> numbie: just ask you rquestion, someone will answer, likely
[15:07] <Harris> bazhang, i was just in the wrong unity
[15:07] <tuxedo> how I change the keyboard?
[15:07] <DexterF> BlueWolf: yw :)
[15:07] <Harris> workspaces works while using cube
[15:08] <Harris> ubottu,
[15:08] <Harris> ubottu, can you help me
[15:08] <numbie> when creating a standard volume on a device , how would i make a hidden volume when i still want to use space of the outer voume
[15:08] <jan_> are there any servers where I can practice my English?
[15:09] <Harris> does anyone know what the comkpiz effect is where when you minimize the screen it burns with fire
[15:09] <wawowe> jan_: ##english
[15:09] <tuxedo> hello???
[15:09] <wawowe> tuxedo: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:09] <wawowe> tuxedo: dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[15:09] <tuxedo> no know how to change without resinstalla the ubuntu?
[15:10] <jan_> wawowe,and how can I contact that server?
[15:10] <wawowe> console-setup*
[15:10] <jan_> tuxedo,where are you from?))
[15:10] <tuxedo> Santo Domingo
[15:10] <jan_> typo.sorry,connect
[15:10] <wawowe> jan_: /join ##english
[15:10] <numbie> jan_, click >> ##english <<<click
[15:11] <jan_> Bingo!!
[15:11] <tuxedo> no gui, to change the keyboard=
[15:12] <Harris> what package is animation in in compiz
[15:14] <escott> numbie, at some point you cant
[15:14] <wawowe> tuxedo: setxkbmap us
[15:16] <numbie> escott, you talking about truecrypt?
[15:17] <escott> numbie, more generally you cannot put more than 2^X bits of information on that disk. if the hidden volume didnt take up space from the real volume you could violate that information limit. so it would apply to truecrypt
[15:18] <jan_> nobody wants to answer on ##English server
[15:19] <numbie> i dont quite understand, im now creating a standard volume on my external... the whole disk , can i still make a hidden volume which does not damage my files
[15:19] <tuxedo> ?
[15:19] <ikonia> jan_: ##english can be quite active, just wait for someone
[15:19] <tuxedo> thanks wawowe
[15:20] <numbie> jan_, thats not a server by the way , its a channel which is located on the server we are on
[15:20] <Thej> hey guys . i need some info regarding ubuntu development
[15:20] <wawowe> jan_: join again and ask me
[15:20] <jan_> channel,sorry)
[15:21] <escott> numbie, tc does have these hidden volumes but you do have to reserve space in some way from the other volumes. the hidden volume will use the free space of the other volume.
[15:21] <jan_> wawowe,I have joined
[15:21] <revenge> CIAO
[15:21] <revenge> !LIST
[15:22] <Jacku> Hi . I have a problem  coz  when I try to install something on 12.04 LTS  appear some lock window and it need admin password. When i type password and accept , it says that password is wrong. What can I do ?  Sorry for my bad english
[15:22] <revenge> !LIST
[15:22]  * Sidewinder Sighs..
[15:22] <numbie> escott, how would i reserve space without creating files, is that even posible?
[15:22] <jonsowman> can someone help with a udev rule for a pl2303 usb serial adapter?
[15:22] <escott> numbie, if you were to have a hidden volume, but use the normal volume (where the hidden is inside the free space of the normal volume) there would be no way for you to avoid potentially destroying the hidden volume. otherwise that would be a dead giveaway that the hidden volume exists
[15:23] <numbie> true :/
[15:23] <Sidewinder> Jacku, the admin pwd is your log in password.
[15:25] <theixle> I am trying to figure out why tail -F and tail -f isn't updating as the file changes. I'm only experiencing this on my lubuntu install atm. I tried #lubuntu but no one was around. Any ideas on how to debug the issue?
[15:25] <rantic> Hi everyone, I'm wondering where I could find the PulseAudio ALSA plugins for 32-bit?
[15:25] <escott> theixle, what file?
[15:26] <Jacku> Yes , I know that but when I wrote this log in passwd It says that passwd is wrong . Its very strange ..
[15:26] <theixle> escott, It's a log file with ansi color codes
[15:27] <Harmonium> Hey all. My brother asked me if there was such a program that would let him store food recipies and classify them. A short search on Software Center shows Krecipies, though it looks kinda old. Anyone knows if there's a better program or I should just install that one?
[15:27] <escott> theixle, but its an actual file file not a pipe.
[15:27] <theixle> escott, correct, it's an actual file
[15:28] <escott> theixle, unless whatever is writing the log is creating a new file it should work
[15:28] <compdoc> Harmonium, programs named like that with a K, tend to mean its meant for another desktop than gnome. The KDE desktop. Or are you using Kbuntu?
[15:29] <theixle> escott, Yeah, it's boggling me because the exact same thing is working on my ubuntu machine but for some reason on this fresh install of lubuntu it doesn't.
[15:30] <Harmonium> compdoc, I have both, but my brother has Unity. I don't think he'd mind installing dependencies as long as he gets his program, though.
[15:31] <Orukusaki> Ettercap
[15:31] <ubuntuuser1110> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason 12.04 doesn't show up in Update Manager.  I have the settings set to notify me of all updates.
[15:31] <compdoc> Harmonium, thats cool. Unity is gnome, btw
[15:33] <rantic> Does anyone know where I can install the 32 bit PulseAudio ALSA plugins to use with Ubuntu 64bit 12.04?
[15:33] <ubuntuuser1110> I didn't see this under known issues.
[15:33] <Harmonium> Now I see a program called Gourmet, it looks more modern (also seems KDE), but it has less stars. :S
[15:33] <theixle> ubuntuuser1110, Have you tried running update-manager -d ?
[15:34] <wawowe> ubuntuuser1110: run do-release-upgrade
[15:34] <ubuntuuser1110> theixle, update-manager -d did it.  Thanks!
[15:35] <theixle> escott, Btw, this is lubuntu running off a usb stick. I should've mentioned that.
[15:35] <ubuntuuser1110> Thanks for the quick response.  I'm glad this was so easy.
[15:36] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:37] <bazzi> irc.oceanirc.net
[15:37] <BA707> Is there a chan specific for 'lucid' users ?
[15:38] <Harris> code to download graphic card driver
[15:38] <escott> theixle, you might be able to get a bit more information by opening a python session and opening a file handle
[15:39] <wawowe> theixle: fat32?
[15:39] <theixle> wawowe: Yes
[15:39] <wawowe> theixle: could be why.
[15:39] <theixle> *hmm
[15:40] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:40] <Orukusaki> Restart it
[15:41] <Harris> Orukusaki, are you talking to me
[15:41] <rantic> Does anyone know where I can install the 32 bit PulseAudio ALSA plugins to use with Ubuntu 64bit 12.04?
[15:41] <Orukusaki> I dont,believe it
[15:42] <H3hlp> Hola, no puedo entrar a backtrack linux
[15:42] <BA707> OK..  I guess there is no knowledge about a 'ubuntu-lucid' specific chan, so I'll ask...   Is there a way to force the update manager in 10.04 to retreive using FP protocol - instead of HTTP ?
[15:42] <Orukusaki> Porke
[15:42] <BA707> FTP
[15:42] <zazzero_93> ciao
[15:42] <zazzero_93> !list
[15:42] <wawowe> BA707: edit /etc/sources.list
[15:43] <wawowe> BA707: change http to ftp
[15:43] <BA707> wawowe: Thank you..  I didn't know where the file was..  <bowing>
[15:43]  * BA707 is away from desktop-1
[15:44] <BA707> sorry
[15:45] <jan_> Is there any need to learn a programming language if you are not good at maths?
[15:46] <compdoc> math is helpful in everyday life - not just with programming
[15:46] <rantic> jan_, Depending on the type of programming you're doing ... good math skills aren't really required
[15:47] <rantic> jan_, Do you have a decent grasp of BEDMAS?
[15:48] <jan_> perl,for instance
[15:48] <EliahKagan> BEDMAS is PEMDAS in the US ;-)
[15:50] <EliahKagan> it's fine if you don't remember the standard operator precedence (order of operations) in arithmetic though, because just about every programming language has other operators that have to fit in somewhere, so however you learn programming it will go over that in detail
[15:50] <imanc> anyone know how I can change the time/zone on y server from edt to gmt?
[15:50] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:51] <escott> imanc, tzselect
[15:51] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:51] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:51] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:51] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:52] <Harris> nd unclickable
 Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:52] <Harris> -FloodBot1- You have been muted automatically, you will be able to speak aga
[15:52] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <imanc> thanks escott
[15:54] <Harris> kornbluth.freenode.net
[15:54] <BA707> wawowe: found '/etc/apt/sources.list'.  is that the right file ?
[15:54] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:54] <wawowe> BA707: yeah
[15:54] <imaubuntunoob> hello guys. i have a problem login in.. the password is correct, but i can't login. login manager is always presented to me everytime i keyed in the correct password. how do i fix this?
[15:54] <Sidewinder> Harris, Yea, we know.
[15:54] <wawowe> BA707: and the ones in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ if there are any
[15:55] <imaubuntunoob> sorry this problem persists since 2 weeks ago..
[15:55] <xtu> hi, how can i let the gdm auto login to the gnome environment?
[15:55] <Sidewinder> !crosspost | imaubuntunoob
[15:56] <imaubuntunoob> i'm sorry. won't do this again..
[15:56] <BA707> wawowe:  now all I have to do is get 'su' access so I can edit it.   Did  not set up a 'root' account, only the admin user during the install.  I see there IS a 'root' user, but have no idea what the pw is on it, and the pw for the initial admin user will not work.
[15:56] <wawowe> imaubuntunoob: ctrl+alt+f1 , login , sudo apt-get remove lightdm , sudo apt-get install gdm , service gdm start
[15:57] <wawowe> BA707: sudo su
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> BA707:  the first user is the admin user who has sudo rights
[15:57] <BA707> wawowe:  TY
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> BA707:  use sudo -s to get a root shell.. not 'sudo su'
 will try in a moment
[15:58] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[15:59] <wawowe> Dr_Willis: does it make a difference?
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> wawowe:  yes it can cause issues.
[15:59] <BA707> OK..  That gave me edit access to the file..  THANK YOU!
[16:00] <Djuropedala> Why is command "sensors" giving me this for my CPU :
[16:00] <Djuropedala> acpitz-virtual-0
[16:00] <Djuropedala> Adapter: Virtual device
[16:00] <Djuropedala> temp1:        +31.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C)
[16:00] <wawowe> Dr_Willis: i've been doing it forever with no problems. is it a security issue?
[16:00] <ech0> sudo rm /
[16:00] <wawowe> Dr_Willis: how about sudo /bin/bash
[16:00] <Harris> in compizconfig settings manager all of the setting boxes are grey and unclickable
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> wawowe:  its a bad habbit. and it can cause issues. theres a guide  if you google for 'ubuntu root shell right way' that gives details
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> wawowe:  use sudo -s. other ways are redundant, and can cause issues in some situations. (may be rare but it can cause issues)
[16:01] <Harris> * Harris sets mode +i #harrisubuntu
[16:02] <Darael> Dr_Willis, wawowe:  To achieve the effect of "su -", incidentally, there's also "sudo -i".
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> -i and -s differ in some way i never have really figured out. :) somthing with the enviroment settings
[16:03] <wawowe> Dr_Willis: keeps the env varibles
[16:03] <wawowe> Dr_Willis: like if you set export DISPLAY=:0.1 as user, it sticks with sudo -i
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> I dont do any fancy setups with my root users env variables, or my users, so i rarely notice the differances
[16:04] <wawowe> yeah, i usually keep those things in their bashrc
[16:06] <Darael> Is there a known issue with multiple keyboard layouts after upgrade to precise?  Because I'm having trouble on about four different machines.  Each account is stuck in its default layout from pre-upgrade - others are selectable in the indicator, but doing so has no effect.  My extra options (compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-shift-keys...) seem to have stopped, too.
[16:07] <EliahKagan> sudo -i simulates an initial login shell, so the environment variables as root's environment variables, root's login scripts as run, ~ is /root instead of /home/username
[16:08] <EliahKagan> sudo -s is usually what you want, for a root shell -- it doesn't do those things, it's the sudo equivalent of running su and passing no arguments
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> and sudo su , may or may not do  what sudo -i, or sudo -s does.. :) i belive is the core of the 'use sudo -s or -i not some other way' argument
[16:10] <MShirley> Anyone help me with ubuntu install issue
[16:10] <wawowe> k so nvm then haha, sudo -i does not keep the varibles
[16:10] <TPB_> How do I install a bin file in Ubuntu>?
[16:10] <LordOfTime> MShirley:  if and only if you explain what the issue is
[16:11] <Fuchs> TPB_: usually it would be better to use a package, if existing, instead
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> TPB_:  what bin exactly. Normally you dont want to use .bin installers
[16:11] <Fuchs> TPB_: what software are you trying to install?
[16:11] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  what .bin?
[16:11] <TPB_> Adobe AIR.
[16:11] <MShirley> LordOfTime - Installs nop problem, then when it boots i get a monitor out of range, and i cant work out how to solve it
[16:11] <TPB_> Adobe AIR ^.
[16:11] <Fuchs> TPB_: used to be in canonical partner repos, maybe have a look there first?
[16:11] <fwalder> is ubuntu.com offline?
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> I  thought i saw an adobe air deb the other day. but I was also thinking adobe killed the air project.. i couldent find it to install last week
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> adobe does a lot of annoying things
[16:12] <Orukusaki> Is it safe to download a torrent of the latest ubuntu
[16:12] <TPB_> So what do I do?
[16:12] <Fuchs> TPB_: if it no longer is, then you can  chmod +x  the .bin file and then   ./nameofthefile.bin
[16:12] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  do what Fuchs suggested: turn on the partners repository and check there
[16:12] <TPB_> fwalder: No.
[16:12] <wawowe> MShirley: boot the install disc, open a root shell
[16:12] <LordOfTime> Fuchs:  TPB_:  I'm checking the precise partner repos now, standby
[16:12] <fwalder> TPB_: i cant reach
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> TPB_:  a .bin file you set executable then run it.
[16:13] <TPB_> Alright. I'm hanging here.
[16:13] <MShirley> I gotta write it down what i need to do, i dont have another computer in here to do it with
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> TPB_:  chmod +x foo.bin, then sudo ./foo.bin
[16:13] <TPB_> fwalder: Where are you trying to connect from?
[16:13] <fwalder> switzerland
[16:13] <MShirley> i have installed ssh and can ssh to the computer thought!
[16:13] <TPB_> fwalder: Works fine from where I am.
[16:13] <wawowe> MShirley: do that then
[16:13] <MShirley> Yep
[16:14] <wawowe> MShirley: nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:14] <MShirley> yeah
[16:14] <TPB_> I'm just checking the partner repos and someone suggested.
[16:14] <TPB_> If that fails, I'll try to get the .bin installed.
[16:15] <EliahKagan> Orukusaki: yes, just get it from the official Ubuntu tracker http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads / http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ (scroll down and get the .torrent file of whatever image you want)
[16:15] <LordOfTime> Fuchs:  TPB_:  I don't see it in the partner repositories, you might have to install with the .bin.  in the terminal: chmod +x /path/to/bin; sudo /path/to/bin
[16:15] <wawowe> MShirley: go to line 46 "set gfxmode=auto" and change to "set gfxmode=text"
[16:15] <Orukusaki> Nice, thank you
[16:15] <MShirley> done
[16:16] <TPB_> Adobe AIR could not be installed. Install either Gnome Keyring or KDE KWallet before installing Adobe AIR.
[16:16] <TPB_> How do I do that?
[16:16] <wawowe> MShirley: nano /etc/grub.d/00_header
[16:16] <escott> !info gnome-keyring | TPB_
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> TPB_:  you are using the normal ubuntu/unity?
[16:17] <TPB_> Yeah.
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> try installing that gnome-keyring package mentioned above
[16:17] <wawowe> MShirley: line 138 "set gfxmode=${GRUB_GFXMODE}" --> "set gfxmode=text"
[16:17] <BA707> wawowe:  That appears to have circumvented the port-80 block I had to put up for scty reasons, I can now access updates (and hopefully new apps) without failures..  I knew there had to be a trick somewhere - just didn't know where.   Thank you very much.
[16:17]  * Dr_Willis wonders why air needs those
[16:17] <wawowe> MShirley: then reboot
[16:17] <MShirley> lets see
[16:17] <BA707> Dr_Willis: That appears to have circumvented the port-80 block I had to put up for scty reasons, I can now access updates (and hopefully new apps) without failures..  I knew there had to be a trick somewhere - just didn't know where.   Thank you very much.
[16:18]  * TPB_ thinks it's to steals people's passwords.
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> BA707:  huh? i dont recall your issue. ;P
[16:18] <TPB_> "gnome-keyring is already the newest version." The heck?
[16:18] <adrian15> I'm looking for a php package that includes "Gzip support". Using Ubuntu 10.04. Do I get with default php5 package maybe? Thank you.
[16:18] <Darael> fwalder: Future reference, take a look at http://isup.me
[16:19] <ubuntumarx> ciao a tutti
[16:19] <BA707> Dr_Willis: Got the answer from Wawow.  But your help with the sudo cmd was needed as well..
[16:19] <Orpheon> Getting problems with PulseAudio
[16:19] <Orpheon> anyone knowing their stuff with it?
[16:19] <TPB_> Does anyone happen to have a .deb for AIR, maybe?
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> TPB_:  adobe's installer may be brain dead.
[16:19] <Orpheon> Alternatively, is it worth it installing and using JACK?
[16:19] <GNUGeist-ubulive> >.>
[16:20] <BA707>   -back to updating-
[16:20]  * TPB_ would like to point out that Adobe folks are idiots.
[16:20] <ubuntumarx> list
[16:20]  * UidX just found out there is a DLL hijack vulnerability in Chrome
[16:20] <GNUGeist-ubulive> Orpheon: Jackd is designed for audio professionals, you have to route your audio flow... unless you are doing stuff in a studio or making music/sound. not worth it
[16:20] <BA707> TPB_:  Perhaps just ignorant of the importance of anything other that microsoft ?
[16:21]  * TPB_ nods head.
[16:21] <Orpheon> I am making music sometimes, but I never tried doing it via routing audio flow
[16:21] <Orpheon> so ok
[16:21] <GNUGeist-ubulive> Alright - let me formulate this question.... Is there a command on the liveCD to install a minimal system? like installing the server from the desktop liveCD
[16:22]  * TPB_ needs Adobe AIR so he can install TweetDeck.
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> GNUGeist-ubulive:  not that ive ever seen.
[16:22] <GNUGeist-ubulive> I found the link to ubiquity which is the gtk installer
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> GNUGeist-ubulive:  unless you count some sort of debootstrap  work.
[16:22] <fwalder> --- ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
[16:22] <fwalder> 87 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 86664ms
[16:22] <TPB_> fwalder: Change DNS?
[16:23] <GNUGeist-ubulive> well, I'm willing to debootstrap if i can get a stable end product
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> GNUGeist-ubulive:  theres talk of in the next release sort  of combining the installers into one.
[16:23] <fwalder> i will try
[16:23] <EliahKagan> GNUGeist-ubulive: no, Ubiquity (the graphical installer) doesn't support that; this is supported only with debian-installer (the text-based installer) which is on the alternate CD
[16:23] <GNUGeist-ubulive> hmmm
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> GNUGeist-ubulive:  i dont even know what your actual issue is.
[16:23] <GNUGeist-ubulive> haha
[16:23] <GNUGeist-ubulive> I'm on the desktop livecd and on a tiny lil netbook
[16:23] <GNUGeist-ubulive> I think unity might rape its poor lil' soul
[16:23] <wawowe> GNUGeist-ubulive: just apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get --purge autoremove
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> The normal ubuntu desktop works fine on my Netbook.
[16:24] <EliahKagan> theoretically you could install debian-installer inside a live system (you'd have to make a bigger RAMdrive for the root filesystem, probably)
[16:24] <GNUGeist-ubulive> and cross my fingers that apt doesn't rip its own heart out lol
[16:24] <wawowe> GNUGeist-ubulive: after that install a different wm
[16:24] <wawowe> GNUGeist-ubulive: i did it
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> GNUGeist-ubulive:  been running ubuntu just fine on netbooks for  several yeras now.
[16:24] <GNUGeist-ubulive> precisely my hope
[16:24] <TPB_> fwalder: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[16:24] <GNUGeist-ubulive> righto :)
[16:25] <EliahKagan> can you tell us the make, model, and specs of your netbook? that might enable us to give better recommendations as to what kind of desktop environment / Ubuntu flavor would work well
[16:25] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  might want to add level3 dns to that: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, 4.2.2.4
[16:25] <GNUGeist-ubulive> lol, I'd feel sheepish cuz its actually a nice one xD
[16:25] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  sometimes google's isnt up to date and level3's is :P
[16:25] <vimane> how to make custom distro from ubuntu installation iso image?
[16:25] <EliahKagan> vimane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[16:25] <DJones> !remaster | vimane
[16:25] <SPhcT> installed wine and now, right click show me open with notepad can I change that to notepad++
[16:26] <GNUGeist-ubulive> niiice :) thanks ubottu for the linkage
[16:26] <TPB_> LordOfTime: Is it not really?
[16:26] <vimane> thank you
[16:26] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  i've also had instances where google dns dies :/
[16:26] <TPB_> Oh, okay.
[16:26]  * TPB_ might have found a solution for AIR for Ubuntu 12.04.
[16:27] <EliahKagan> SPhcT: you can tell it to open with a custom command, and put in the path of the notepad++ executable
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> or find the notepad.exe and copy notepad++.exe to it. ;) or use a better text editor...
[16:28] <kubalicious> Hi
[16:28] <EliahKagan> if the notepad++ executable is on a filesystem that doesn't support permissions, and it is mounted so that all files are marked not-executable, then you'll have to prepend wine (with a space after it) to the beginning of the notepad++ executable path
[16:28] <EliahKagan> hi kubalicious
[16:29] <GNUGeist-ubulive> ...
[16:29] <kubalicious> i'm trying to install ubunut on my laptop, but after clicking on install, it's going to a black page and freezing there on "stopping enable remaining boot time encrypted block devices".
[16:29] <GNUGeist-ubulive> ubottu is a bot... isn't it
[16:29] <SPhcT> EliahKagan, but I also want remove open with notped, when i right click
[16:29] <kubalicious> What should I do ?
[16:29] <TPB_> Are the nVidia drivers good now for 12.04? No more jerkiness?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> SPhcT:  the gnome nautilus settings/configs have that item in there somewhere. I forget where. if you want to remove it.
[16:29] <drecute> please I need help with this: http://markmail.org/message/6y4j7f7u6bvvve5f
[16:30] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  define "jerkiness"
[16:30] <TPB_> LordOfTime: Graphical fuckupness and system instability.
[16:30] <wawowe> SPhcT: /usr/share/applications/wine-notepad.desktop
[16:30] <ubuntumarx> list
[16:30] <GNUGeist-ubulive>  !Alternate
[16:31] <LordOfTime> !language | TPB_
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> TPB_:  the quailty of the nvidia or ati drivers seemto depend very mich on the exct version of the drivers/kernel and the card in use.
[16:31] <LordOfTime> TPB_:  i'm not using a recent nvidia card, but i've got the nvidia drivers on here, it works
[16:31] <LordOfTime> and i agree with Dr_Willis
[16:31]  * TPB_ is confused.
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> My Midrange, not cutting edge nvidia cards/systems all work well
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> but if i went out today and bought the latest card that just came out yesterday.. id expect problems
[16:31] <TPB_> Mine didn't at the time.
[16:32] <MShirley> Nope didnt work. I guess ill have to go back to centos... JOY
[16:32] <reisio> MShirley: to do what?
[16:32] <SPhcT> wawowe, where is usr?
[16:32] <kubalicious> i'm trying to install ubunut on my laptop, but after clicking on install, it's going to a black page and freezing there on "stopping enable remaining boot time encrypted block devices". What should I do ?
[16:32] <BLZbubba> what does it take to get ubuntu to stay in the default text mode until X starts?
[16:33] <EliahKagan> SPhcT: /usr is located in /, which is the top of the filesystem
[16:33] <Jancoover> When installing programs i prefer to use Ubuntu Software Center. But what if I want to copy installed software to another Ubuntu machine? Where shall I look for installed software? Is there anything like "program files" folder in ubuntu?
[16:33] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting.
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> BLZbubba:  i normally use the options 'noquiet nosplash nofb' to grub.
[16:33] <BLZbubba> plymouth needs to die
[16:33] <MShirley> as a primary operating system
[16:33] <chigy> Guys: Is there the best way to install compiz settings in 12.04 without bringing some conflicts?
[16:33] <SPhcT> EliahKagan, yes figured that out.. :P
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> BLZbubba: nosplash = disables plymouth i belive
[16:33] <BLZbubba> Dr_Willis: it still tries to do graphics with those options though doesn't it?
[16:33] <TPB_> So, my GTX690 wouldn't work that well? :/
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> BLZbubba:  you mean starts up X? the text option makes it not start the Login manager
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> !text
[16:33] <escott> Dr_Willis, nosplash doesnt do diddly to stop plymouth on any of my systems. il try nofb
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> escott:  i was thinking its been changed in 12.04 but i havent trried it lately
[16:34] <kubalicious> Can somebody please answer me ?
[16:34] <BLZbubba> Dr_Willis: nice, thanks I"ll try it
[16:34] <reisio> kubalicious: okay
[16:34] <reisio> MShirley: why's that
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> escott:  used tobe i always used 'nosplash nofb verbose text'
[16:34] <reisio> CentOS isn't really intended for desktop use
[16:34] <kubalicious> i'm trying to install ubunut on my laptop, but after clicking on install, it's going to a black page and freezing there on "stopping enable remaining boot time encrypted block devices". What should I do ?
[16:34] <escott> Dr_Willis, im not on 12.04 yet
[16:34] <chigy> Compiz problems please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:34] <BLZbubba> god i wish we could just "dpkg -r upstart plymouth"
[16:34] <reisio> chigy: you want some?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> escott:  no idea then.  used to work. perhaps its the combo of the options
[16:34] <EliahKagan> kubalicious: was just about to reply, sometimes it takes time because there's a lot going on in the channel
[16:34] <MShirley> Cos i run a small hosting company, i use linux for everything there, and i dont mind useing it as a MS replacement.
[16:34] <reisio> BLZbubba: you can get rid of them, if that's what you mean
[16:34] <MShirley> especially when im running limmited hardware
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> You can set the plymouth theme to be a text only theme.. somehow.
[16:35] <wawowe> MShirley: edit grub.cfg again
[16:35] <EliahKagan> kubalicious: did you MD5 test the .iso image and do "Check disc for defects" on the installation CD/DVD or USB flash drive?
[16:35] <kubalicious> EliahKagan : yeah I noticed, and thanks :D
[16:35] <BLZbubba> Dr_Willis: do you do anything with the "linux_gfx_mode" ?
[16:35] <reisio> MShirley: CentOS _is_ meant for hosting, especially as a replacement for Windows Server
[16:35] <Darael> kubalicious: Have you checked the CD for integrity?  If so, try the Alternate CD instead?
[16:35] <escott> Dr_Willis, i use nosplash noplymouth and it doesn't work. i know i dont want text because i want the dm to come up. im just worried about nofb. i do want a framebuffer i just dont want plymouth to use it
[16:35] <chigy> Yeah!, I want some solutions. @ reisio
[16:35] <reisio> chigy: to what?
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> escott:  ive never heard of the noplymouth option
[16:35] <BLZbubba> Dr_Willis: i just want grub & linux to leave the system in the regular 80x25 mode until x starts
[16:35] <TPB_> What does this do? sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgnome-keyring.so.0 /usr/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgnome-keyring.so.0.2.0 /usr/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0.2.0
[16:35] <Anil> hi guys my start button isnt visible it has shifted farther right how do i rectify it
[16:35] <MShirley> i know what centos is. and what its for :) its runs all of my shared hosting paltfrom, all of my solusvm servers and its installed on all the dedicated servers aswell
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> escott:  as far as i know - plymouth is not using the framebuffer. just the console is.. which i normally dont want
[16:36] <escott> Dr_Willis, i saw it on a website next to the "pleasefortheloveofgoddontstartplymouth" option
[16:36] <Darael> TPB_: Assuming that's meant to be on two lines, or have a ; or an && in it, it creates two symlinks for libraries.
[16:36] <EliahKagan> kubalicious: to check the CD for integrity as Darael suggested, see http://zootlinux.blogspot.com/2010/05/check-disc-for-defects-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[16:36] <kubalicious> EliahKagan : no, I just ran the install CD
[16:36] <TPB_> Darael: Yeah, those were supposed to two lines. That somehow made the Adobe AIR installer work.
[16:36] <chigy> Reisio: I have tried to install it in 12.04 but it brings conflicts and removes the windows borders.
[16:36] <EliahKagan> try doing the integrity check on the installation media
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122081/how-to-restore-plymouth-default-theme   about all i know on the topc. :)
[16:36] <EliahKagan> that may reveal the source of the problem
[16:36] <BLZbubba> plymouth does a horrible job of choosing modes sometimes, and upstart fails silently quite often, there must be a way to just get rid of the 2
[16:37] <reisio> chigy: which version? What's your graphics device?
[16:37] <SPhcT> EliahKagan, no wawowe sugestion isnt there
[16:37] <EliahKagan> if that shows the installation media is bad, then do the MD5 test on the .iso to see if it was a bad download or a bad burn/write
[16:37] <kubalicious> Darael : I dowloanded the iso from ubuntu.com
[16:37] <Anil> nvidia gt 8400
[16:37] <EliahKagan> yeah, but the download can be corrupted regardless of the source, or there can be a problem writing/burning it
[16:37] <Darael> TPB_: Presumably it has hardwired library filenames (or paths) in it somewhere, and so symlinking the others in makes it pick them up.
[16:38] <chigy> Reisio: Nvidia cuardo....in Toshiba Tecra m5
[16:38] <EliahKagan> http://zootlinux.blogspot.com/2010/05/check-disc-for-defects-in-ubuntu-1004.html to check the CD/DVD/USB you created; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM to check the ISO file itself
[16:38] <TPB_> Darael: Probably. Whatever it was, it did the trick. I just wanted to know what was it exactly. Thanks, anyways.
[16:38] <Darael> kubalicious: There's still the possibility of a corrupt download or a misburn - if it's giving trouble, it's always worth checking the integrity.  Also see EliahKagan's lines.
[16:38] <Darael> TPB_: Are you familiar with symlinks?
[16:39] <BLZbubba> oh another annoyance - why does ubuntu's "restart" choice only restart X and not reload the kernel
[16:39] <EliahKagan> SPhcT: are you saying /usr/share/applications/wine-notepad.desktop isn't there?
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> BLZbubba:  reload the kernel would be rebooting the whole machine
[16:39] <Darael> BLZbubba: It reboots the system for me.  Sounds like a bug I had a while back; don't remember how I fixed it, though, sorry.
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> which restart are we talking about anysay?
[16:40] <`prixon> is there a way to make super+D minimize all windows in 12.04 instead of ctrl+super+d?
[16:41] <reisio> `prixon: undoubtedly
[16:41] <Darael> Pricey: install the compizconfig-settings-manager package, run ccsm, and change the shortcut in the Show Desktop plugin.  There's probably an easier way, mind.
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:41] <reisio> `prixon: your name is yellow in XChat, a very popular IRC client; it's very hard to see the leading `
[16:41] <`prixon> yellow? because of the `?
[16:42] <`prixon> I'm using xchat
[16:42] <`prixon> reisio, why is my name yellow?
[16:42] <reisio> `prixon: no, XChat colorizes based on nickname length
[16:42] <TPB_> Darael: Not quite.
[16:42] <reisio> `prixon: just to differentiate from other nicks
[16:43] <EliahKagan> i'm using xchat and i don't see names with different colors
[16:43] <GNUGeist-ubulive> on a white background heh
[16:43] <GNUGeist-ubulive> its an option
[16:43] <reisio> I'm just saying, your nick is hard to type, regardless of its color, but especially because of its color
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> just is finding that punctuation is what makes it a hassle I think. `prixon
[16:43] <reisio> EliahKagan: well it's a pref
[16:43] <EliahKagan> sounds like you know a solution to this problem then ;-)
[16:43] <reisio> just saying :p people will respond to you more if they can type your nick more easily :p
[16:44] <wawowe> type ` and hit tab
[16:44] <Darael> TPB_: Right.  It's basically a reference to a file somewhere else, that pretty much everything will treat just like the original file.  A bit like a shortcut in Windows, if that helps, but rather better done.
[16:44] <GNUGeist-ubulive> its a eyesight filter....
[16:44] <donvito2> will ubuntu cd boot helper help me to boot ubuntu from usb ?
[16:45] <Darael> wawowe: That's not the problem; the issue is identifying that initial ` if it's yellow-on-white.  Of course, some of us use light-on-dark terminal chat clients and don't have that problem ;)
[16:45] <TPB_> Darael: Well explained. TY.
[16:45] <BLZbubba> Darael: ok cool thanks
[16:45] <SPhcT> EliahKagan, yes but i find just notepad which opens with wine..
[16:46] <GNUGeist-ubulive> Darael: you can change the yellow color in xchat... I'm just saying its not his issue, its your client's issue to display clearly
[16:46] <donvito2> will ubuntu cd boot helper help me to boot ubuntu from usb ?
[16:46] <EliahKagan> SPhcT: if you edit that .desktop file, you can change what application opens
[16:47] <ubuntumarx_> ciao
[16:47] <SPhcT> EliahKagan, how can i edit it?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> donvito, cd boot helper?
[16:48] <ubuntumarx_> list
[16:48] <bastidrazor> ubuntumarx_: no warez here :(
[16:48] <wawowe> SPhcT: sudo nano /usr/share/applications/wine-notepad.desktop
[16:48] <reisio> GNUGeist-ubulive: that's part of it, certainly
[16:49] <GNUGeist-ubulive> xD
[16:49]  * GNUGeist-ubulive promises to keep quiet now
[16:49] <Darael> wawowe: sudo -e is marginally faster.  Or sudoedit, for that matter.  Also lets one keep one's own editor-settings.
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> donvito, so is the problem booting a usb?
[16:50] <SPhcT> wawowe, how i can find out notepad++ executable command?
[16:51] <wawowe> SPhcT: change "Exec=notepad" --> "Exec=notepad++"
[16:51] <wawowe> SPhcT: echo
[16:51] <reisio> why're you playign with notepad++?
[16:51] <EliahKagan> well notepad.exe and notepad++.exe might not be located in the same directory
[16:51] <SPhcT> and how to change icon?
[16:51] <GNUGeist-ubulive> .... .exe?
[16:52] <reisio> try out geany, it's a lot like notepad++ but is cross platform
[16:52] <reisio> you won't have to learn another text editor for some time, possibly never
[16:52] <wawowe> SPhcT: echo "alias notepad++='wine notepad++' ~/.bashrc; source ~/.bashrc
[16:52] <EliahKagan> notepad and notepad++ are windows programs, they run with wine, they end in .exe
[16:52] <EliahKagan> (.NET programs also end in .exe)
[16:52] <TPB_> TweetDeck for Adobe AIR is 6x better than the native version on some platforms.
[16:52] <GNUGeist-ubulive> oh snap, context has been returned
[16:53] <EliahKagan> wawowe: adding a bash alias won't change what happens outside the shell, e.g. in Nautilus
[16:53] <wawowe> in that case
[16:54] <theadmin> Just make a script: echo 'wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe $@' | sudo tee /usr/local/bin/npp
[16:55] <SPhcT> ok if i use geany than i just want remove notepad form right click
[16:55] <Orukusaki> I need video decoder for use on ubuntu
[16:55] <theadmin> SPhcT: rm ~/.local/share/applications/wine-extension*
[16:56] <theadmin> SPhcT: That will remove all Wine right-click menu entries
[16:56] <superzzt> Greetings.  Can somebody tell me why I don't have the option to add a printer connected to a winbox on the local network?
[16:56] <EliahKagan> Orukusaki: do you just mean you want to play video, or do you mean you want to convert it from a compressed format to a less compressed format?
[16:56] <SPhcT> theadmin, ty.. :)
[16:57] <SPhcT> reisio, thanks that is what i was lookin for... because of just 2 chars that shows wierd on gedit
[16:57] <EliahKagan> Orukusaki, if the latter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Transcoding may help
[16:58] <shivangpatel> dl
[16:59] <joshbeitler> I have a major problem if anyone can help that would be great
[16:59] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  details.  and just ask the question
[16:59] <EliahKagan> superzzt: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu (especially https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu#Printing_from_Ubuntu)
[16:59] <Orukusaki> Ok cool
[16:59] <strictland> Hello everyone, could use some help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986518
[17:00] <thisisgil> Hi all - can anyone tell me if crontab is changed in ubuntu 12.04? I'm trying to add a command to be run every minute as root in crontab but it's not applying at all - do I need to do something differently to sudo crontab -e ?
[17:00] <joshbeitler> Lordoftime: whenever I try to login (to any desktop) the screen goes black then goes back to lightfm.
[17:00] <jrib> !here | strictland
[17:00] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  you mean you get kicked back to the logon screen?
[17:00] <joshbeitler> Lordoftime yes.
[17:00] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  go to one of the TTYs (ctrl+alt+f1)
[17:00] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  login to that
[17:00] <theadmin> thisisgil: If you want to edit the system wide crontab, use "sudo vi /etc/crontab" (replace vi with nano if you're not familiar with the former)
[17:01] <joshbeitler> Lordoftime: ok
[17:01] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  then do: rm ~/.Xauthority
[17:01] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  then try again
[17:01] <EliahKagan> thisisgil: /etc/crontab is the systemwide crontab, there is also the root user crontab which is what you edit with sudo crontab -e, but you should generally avoid that since the systemwide crontab is preferred for administrative tasks that need to run as root
[17:02] <con-man> why are alllllllllllll my you tube videos inverted for colour like negatives? doesnt happen on my windows box and it's with all browsers
[17:02] <con-man> firefox and chrome
[17:02] <joshbeitler> Lordoftime: worked, thanks!
[17:02] <LordOfTime> joshbeitler:  yep
[17:02] <strictland> So my Xubuntu system is set up to shutdown via cron at a specific time  everyday, then it wakes-on-LAN everyday as well at a specified time. All  ran well for months until a few weeks ago, when my system would  wake-on-LAN but would all of the sudden display the following messages:
[17:02] <strictland> error: hd0,1 out of disk
[17:02] <strictland> error: couldn't read file.
[17:02] <strictland> error: you need to load kernel first.
[17:02] <strictland> Failed to boot both default and fallback entries.
[17:02] <strictland> Press any key to continue...
[17:02] <strictland> I would then press a key and my system would boot up normally into the  desktop. But I want to avoid having to press a key every time to start.
[17:02] <FloodBot1> strictland: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <allu2> con-man: you use nvidia graphics card?
[17:03] <con-man> allu2, yup
[17:03] <wawowe> con-man: fullscreen the video and rightclick options, turn off gl.. or something like that, don't remember exactly
[17:03] <allu2> con-man: its problem with the drivers, goto Unity 2D then to youtube and right click the video, select properties and unselect "hardware acceleration"
[17:04] <con-man> yup
[17:04] <con-man> thanks both of you
[17:04] <con-man> worked :)
[17:04] <allu2> :)
[17:04] <thisisgil> theadmin / eliahkagan okay - I'm trying to run this command every minute : echo 0|tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope - it fixes a ubuntu 12.04 32 / 64 bit wine library bork - is crontab the best place to do this?
[17:04] <Vlan> guys, i seriously have to understand why disabling advanced graphic effects to get VNC working properly needs to be that hard to do
[17:05] <theadmin> thisisgil: Make that "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope", and yes, put it in /etc/crontab
[17:06] <reisio> Vlan: there're some new VNC things that avoid that, even
[17:06] <reisio> Vlan: designed to work with accelerated
[17:06] <superzzt> EliahKagan:  Thanks for that, but I've seen these guides before, but their method doesn't seem to work.  I get the feeling that I am missing something.  A package perhaps.  I have samba and am able to browse the network in nautilus, but I can't seem to find the shared printer.
[17:06] <reisio> Vlan: but mostly I'd say the kind of people who need to remotely administer a computer would already know that
[17:07] <Vlan> reisio: could you please point me to a siple and working tutorial for a guy that has already headache?
[17:07] <strictland>  my problem: "error: hd0,1 out of disk." during boot, details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008361/ and at the forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986518
[17:07] <Vlan> reisio:yeah you're right but unfortunately i'm not really a linux guy
[17:07] <LordOfTime> strictland:  we can read you know.  you've already posted on the forums, have some patience
[17:07] <reisio> Vlan: you're using Unity?
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> superzzt:  you may want to try the samba web interface to see if it sees the remote printer.
[17:08] <vlt> theadmin: I downloaded the Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop ISO image, saved to USB, booted in live mode and tried to install chromium-browser, which I cancelled after 3 hours. So I can’t tell whether it works from live CD :(
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> superzzt:  i mean the cups web interface. ;)  http:/localhost:631
[17:08] <strictland> apologies, other guy was asking me to use pastebin
[17:08] <Vlan> reisio: yep, i guess so
[17:08] <reisio> vlt: is it so important to use it from a live image?
[17:08] <superzzt> Dr_Willis:  I'd forgotten about that.  Will try.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> superzzt:  my new printers all are stand alone on the network. :) best feature ever.
[17:09] <Jancoover> When installing programs i prefer to use Ubuntu Software Center. But what if I want to copy installed software to another Ubuntu machine? Where shall I look for installed software? Is there anything like "program files" folder in ubuntu?
[17:09] <vlt> reisio: User theadmin (who just left) recommended to try whether it crashes there too.
[17:09] <ikonia> Jancoover: you should never do that
[17:09] <ikonia> Jancoover: always use software center
[17:09] <reisio> Vlan: which version?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> Jancoover:  You normally DONT just copy software over.. you could copy the .deb files over from the /var/cache/apt/ dirs.. and install the debs
[17:09] <MagicJ> hown can I orevent the pannel popping up when I move the cursor to the left on 12.04
[17:10] <reisio> vlt: ?
[17:10] <wawowe> Jancoover: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> Jancoover:  if you want to save download bandwitch. setup a main machine as a apt-cacher-ng server and let it cache all the debs for the rest of the lan.
[17:10] <vlt> reisio: Since I upgraded to 12.04 (fresh install) my browser (chromium) is unusable. I start it and after a few seconds it closes. This is the terminal output I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007881/  What to do now?
[17:11] <reisio> vlt: what version of chromium?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> 'upgraded to 12.04 (fresh install)' ? you mean you just did a clean/new install then? ;)
[17:11] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  turn up the sensitivity on the panel?
[17:11] <vlt> reisio: Current
[17:11] <reisio> Vlan: which version of Ubuntu?
[17:12] <ubuntunobody> hey, in gnome shell, is there a way to rearrange extension icons in the top bar?
[17:12] <LordOfTime> s/up/down/
[17:12] <reisio> vlt: 'Current' is not a version
[17:12] <reisio> versions are made up of numbers, and sometimes letters
[17:12] <Vlan> reisio: 12.04
[17:12] <MagicJ> LordOfTime: yes - helps - but not enough - want to really stop it 100%
[17:12] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  don't use Unity then
[17:12] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  you could use gnome-shell or something
[17:12] <shivangpatel> any one know how to setup eclipse for advanced JAVA? i mean how to setup apache tomcat?
[17:12] <Darael> Dr_Willis, Jancoover: I favour squid-deb-proxy, myself.
[17:13] <LordOfTime> !notunity | MagicJ
[17:13] <thisisgil> theadmin thanks! one last thing - do I need to write 'root' after the time variables, ie so it would be 0 0 0 0 0 root <command> ?
[17:13] <vlt> reisio: The one I get when I install the latest pkg chromium-browser package. apt says 18.0.1025.151~r130497-0ubuntu1
[17:13] <Elev>  /n
[17:13] <MagicJ> LordOfTime: how do I easily turn it off
[17:13] <superzzt> Dr_Willis:  cups doesn't see the printer despite the fact that it is a shared printer.  (It is on a windows 7 box, FYI)
[17:13] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  by not using Unity, but using gnome-shell
[17:14] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  you either have it autohide or you dont in which case it'll always be there
[17:14] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  you can change *where* it shows up (left side / bottom), but if you want it to autohide but not respond to being tapped, you might be out of luck
[17:14]  * LordOfTime checks
[17:14] <EliahKagan> vlt: try quitting chromium-browser, then in the Terminal run: cd .config; mv chromium chromium.old
[17:14] <splnet> OK dumb question of the day: How do you uninstall a package? sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.2.14-debug -> " warning: ignoring request to remove ..."
[17:14] <EliahKagan> then go back into Chromium and see if it works agaiin
[17:14] <vlt> EliahKagan: I started with an empty ~
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> superzzt:  how about findsmb, and smbtree commands.
[17:15] <MagicJ> LordOfTime: ty so much - that's how it seemed - YUCK - I will o the drop back to gnome I guess - this is the tupe of thing that will drive me and others away from Ubuntu - I have 131 sites running Ubuntu that I will probably end up changing because of this type of thing
[17:15] <fl1bbl3> splnet apt-get remove
[17:15] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  you could make it go to the bottom
[17:15] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  or just make it so its always visible and not hidden
[17:15] <EliahKagan> splnet: or if you want to remove systemwide configuration files too, run apt-get purge
[17:16] <shivangpatel> how to setup apache tomcat in eclipse...for java
[17:16] <MagicJ> LordOfTime: my users do not want to be confused by this stuff.  They use the few things we have on the desktop and no more
[17:17] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  the dash is part of Unity.  to not have the dash, the answer  is don't use Unity, but use Gnome Shell or Gnome Classic (I am partial to gnome shell)
[17:17] <reisio> Vlan: you just need the command to disable effects, then you can simply put it in a shell script with your vnc command and run that instead
[17:17] <splnet> EliahKagan: yeah purge did the trick thanks
[17:17] <MagicJ> LordOfTime: I agree - and the best way to that is to change to another distro
[17:17] <superzzt> Dr_Willis:  smbtree sees the winbox, but no printer.  Interesting.  This isn't important to me.  I'll write this off as a Windows glitch for now and not waste your time.  Thanks.
[17:17] <EliahKagan> vlt: how did you start with an empty home directory if you 12.04 LTS system is an upgrade?
[17:17] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  or use Gnome Shell (which is closer to Gnome than Unity)
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> The panel is getting some neat features with icon feedback/animation and quicklists. ;)
[17:17] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  Ubuntu's a great distro, you could use Kubuntu (KDE) if you want
[17:18] <sudo|king> i recently ran an upgrade and am no longer able to launch OpenGL apps. have an nvidia gs 8400, get this error on launch: "X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)"
[17:18] <LordOfTime> MagicJ:  when i get tired of Unity, i keep KDE around :P
[17:18] <vlt> EliahKagan: <vlt> Since I upgraded to 12.04 (fresh install) …
[17:18] <reisio> Vlan: maybe just metacity --replace
[17:18] <EliahKagan> vlt: oh ok sorry
[17:18] <EliahKagan> well you
[17:18] <MagicJ> LordOfTime: I like unity for my own development use  -but for a "packaged system" ready for the end user for whom I really want to hide that there is an OS there at all this is bo good
[17:18] <superzzt> Dr_Willis:  Better yet, I'll check another winbox on the network to see if it's there.  Either way I thank you for your help.  You've helped point me in a new direction.
[17:19] <EliahKagan> *well you are not running the latest version, try upgrading chromium-browser: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[17:19] <Jancoover> what is the best programming language to start with?
[17:19] <EliahKagan> actually sry the latest version is in -proposed
[17:19] <dlentz> !ot | Jancoover
[17:19] <sudo|king> Jancoover: this isn't a programming channel
[17:19] <vlt> EliahKagan: My system tells me “Software up to date”.
[17:19] <mirbot> i have a very bizzare issue that is crashing my computer everytime i boot.  its related to lockfile-create
[17:20] <sudo|king> Jancoover: try ##programming
[17:20] <mirbot> i cannot find any resolution to the issue
[17:20] <EliahKagan> vlt: you can try the version from -proposed by installing the .deb file manually (you can get it here, it's for Precise): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser
[17:20] <mirbot> this error didnt appear until after i upgraded to 12.04
[17:20] <shivangpatel> any one know how to install apache tomcat in eclipse for java
[17:20] <sudo|king> eh
[17:20] <sudo|king> i'm going to recompile nvidia driver, see if that helps
[17:20] <EliahKagan> vlt: or you can do this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed (selectively upgrade just chromium-browser)
[17:20] <sudo|king> bbl
[17:21] <EliahKagan> mirbot, can you give more details, besides that it's related to lockfile-create ?
[17:21] <shivangpatel> any one know how to install apache tomcat in eclipse for java....
[17:21] <LordOfTime> shivangpatel:  ask in the eclipse channel?  you might need tomcat installed first
[17:21] <LordOfTime> !repeat | shivangpatel
[17:21] <shivangpatel> ok
[17:22] <mirbot> EliahKagan, 'lockfile-create crashed with SIGSEGV in calloc()
[17:22] <EliahKagan> vlt: also, ~ shouldn't be *empty* even for a new user, there should be some dotfiles in it, ...have you actually tried cd-ing to .config (files that start with . are hidden by default)
[17:22] <mirbot> that the message
[17:23] <mirbot> i am been sending dumps of the crash report for several weeks now
[17:23] <EliahKagan> mirbot, did you get an error reporting window and report it as a bug, and if so, can you post the Launchpad bug link here?
[17:23] <vlt> EliahKagan: Of course I had some .bash config files after adding the new user.
[17:23] <EliahKagan> mirbot, cool, can you post a link to the bug report you created? (any of them)
[17:23] <mirbot> i just hit continue
[17:23] <angs> is there any GUI task manager to see active processes and kill processes?
[17:23] <mirbot> i dont have any links
[17:24] <LinuxMonkey> angs system monitor
[17:24] <angs> thanks linuxmonkey
[17:25] <chigy> compiz effect problem!!!!!!!!
[17:26] <mirbot> EliahKagan, give me a moment.  i am going to reboot which will bring the window with the information you need back up.  silly me for hitting continue thinking it would produce a bug link
[17:28] <raven> audacity freezes suddenly with ubuntu 12.04.i suggest, this happens while capturing a restore snapshot because after the restore it is the exact last state every time. any ideas?
[17:29] <raven> audacity freezes suddenly with ubuntu 12.04.i suggest, this happens while capturing a restore snapshot because after the restore it is the exact last state every time. any ideas?
[17:31] <reisio> raven: run it from a terminal and observe the output
[17:34] <vassalli> hji
[17:34] <vassalli> hi
[17:35] <vassalli> As I reduce hd with gparted, ubuntu 4.12, I can not remove sd1
[17:36] <vassalli> thancs
[17:36] <morsnowski> vassalli, is it mounted ?
[17:38] <donvito3> i just installed ubuntu
[17:38] <donvito3> i dont know why the hell the chose menu betwen ubuntu and windows xp doesnt show?
[17:38] <DaDaDOSPrompt> donvito, do you recall which device name you installed the bootloader to?
[17:39] <wawowe> donvito3: wubi or dualboot?
[17:39] <DaDaDOSPrompt> ah, good point
[17:39] <donvito3> wubi
[17:39] <donvito3> i mean i installed from usb
[17:39] <donvito3> installation went all ok i restarted and now windows is loading himself
[17:39] <donvito3> without i chose it
[17:40] <morsnowski> that looks like you didn't install grub
[17:40] <smd_> very slow connection between window7 and ubuntu10.4
[17:40] <smd_> ?
[17:40] <donvito3> grub doesnt install himself?
[17:40] <HelloWorld321> How can I tell if a port is open?
[17:40] <wawowe> wubi modifies the windows boot.ini
[17:40] <vassalli> morsnowski , yes monted
[17:40] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: netstat -an | grep LISTEN <portnumber>
[17:41] <donvito3> how can i fix now ?
[17:41] <true_techie> what is wrong with this bash command?  #!/bin/bash node `dirname $0`/build/spludo-gen.js $*
[17:41] <morsnowski> vassalli, unmount it and try again
[17:41] <wawowe> HelloWorld321: locally, netstat
[17:41] <vassalli> I have to reduce sd1 but I can not do it
[17:41] <smd_> Is there anyone help me about network connection between windows7 and ubuntu10.4
[17:41] <smd_> ?
[17:41] <morsnowski> as long as it is mounted it won't
[17:42] <HelloWorld321> netstat -an | grep "LISTEN 3306"
[17:42] <HelloWorld321> if my port isn't lsited, does that mean that the port is closed?
[17:42] <tata> I have ubuntu 10.04 and what I need of software to watch live tv on internet?
[17:42] <vlt> EliahKagan, reisio: I activated -proposed repo and updated chromium to 18.0.1025.168~r134367-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 but that didn’t help. It still closes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008423/
[17:42] <donvito3> guys why no one helps here?
[17:43] <smd_> Can i ask help me?
[17:43] <true_techie> tata, www.techjamaica.com/forums/showthread.php?107569-Getting-Thousands-of-movies-and-free-channels-with-xbmc
[17:43] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to get a version # of a package before i install it?
[17:43] <ring0> apt-cache policy package
[17:43] <Tm_T> !helpme | smd_
[17:43] <vlt> donvito3: I don’t think that’s true.
[17:43] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: Sorry.  That should have been netstat -an | grep LISTEN | grep <portnumber>
[17:43] <lelamal> !patience | donvito3
[17:43] <vassalli> with gparted, I can only unmount sda5 (swap) sda2 (exstendet)
[17:44] <true_techie> what is wrong with this bash command?  #!/bin/bash node `dirname $0`/build/spludo-gen.js $*
[17:44] <vassalli> sda1  monted
[17:44] <wawowe> donvito3: something must've gone wrong during the install
[17:44] <BLZbubba> Dr_Willis: hey i found the ideal way to set the video mode:  > /boot/grub/video.lst; update-grub
[17:44] <Tm_T> smd_: also giving bit more information rightaway would help too (:
[17:44] <vlt> !ask | smd_
[17:44] <donvito3> wawowe how to fix or install grub now?
[17:45] <wawowe> donvito3: could try again or see if there's an option to redo the boot.ini mod
[17:45] <smd_> ok i'm really sorry , I found it
[17:45] <donvito3> k
[17:45] <wawowe> donvito3: i think you can also edit boot.ini with msconfig
[17:45] <EliahKagan> vlt: well at least you're getting a different error now. It was a segmentation fault before, right?
[17:45] <vassalli> as unmount sda1, thanks
[17:45] <donvito3> what to edit in boot.ini actually ?
[17:45] <vassalli> gparted no,, error
[17:45] <vlt> EliahKagan: I don’t know. How to find out?
[17:45] <wawowe> donvito3: pastebin it
[17:45] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: and if nothing is listed, then my port is closed?
[17:46] <donvito3> sec
[17:46] <donvito3> weird boot.ini doesnt exist in my windows xp
[17:46] <smd_> I have a network that consists of  3 computers, two computers have ubuntu10.4 and the other on has window7 as os
[17:46] <wawowe> donvito3: it's hidden
[17:46] <mintuser> i want to know how to make "busybox telnetd" act as a telnet daemon. has anybody had any luck with it yet?
[17:46] <EliahKagan> vlt, what was your original error?
[17:46] <donvito3> sec i found it
[17:46] <EliahKagan> you had pastebinned that, right?
[17:46] <smd_> but the network connection is very very slow between them
[17:47] <donvito3> http://pastebin.com/heqk8p9K
[17:47] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: If there is no ouptut, it is not listening which means it is closed if you are not running a firewall.
[17:47] <smd_> and it interupted regularly
[17:47] <donvito3> wawowe there http://pastebin.com/heqk8p9K
[17:47] <vassalli> The partition can not be removed by the following mount points:
[17:47] <Jancoover> I have got 2 OSs on my computer:windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10. The problem is that when I boot my computer grub shows "Windows Xp professional" instead of "Windows 7". how can I fix this thing?
[17:47] <vlt> EliahKagan: I think that one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1007881/ (I can only read it for a few seconds before chromium closes)
[17:47] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: If you are running a firewall, then connection attempts to that port will simply be ignored.
[17:48] <mintuser> hi there. i want to know how to make "busybox telnetd" act as a telnet daemon. has anybody had any luck with it yet?
[17:48] <EliahKagan> vlt: uh, you should probably start by installing a different browser so that you can use the web while working on getting this problem fixed (you could install firefox, for example); also...did it even open for a few seconds before?
[17:49] <mintuser> i want it to act as a telnet daemon and accept connections from other computers
[17:49] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: okay.  Thanks.   How do I know if I'm running a firewall?   My linux is still weak, and when I installed it, I knew absolutely nothing.
[17:50] <escott> HelloWorld321, sudo iptables -L
[17:50] <EliahKagan> vlt, "Abgebrochen (Speicherabzug geschrieben)" means SIGABRT, not SIGSEGV (i.e., not segmentation fault as i'd misremembered)...but you don't seem to have a crash (per se) now at all
[17:50] <wawowe> donvito3: add a line with: C:\Wubildr.mbr = "Ubuntu Wubi"
[17:50] <ubuntu_64bit> all
[17:50] <donvito3> but ill need one line for windows xp too?
[17:50] <ubuntu_64bit> hi all
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: here's what I'm actually trying to do.  I'm running MySql and I can see it throughout my LAN via phpMyAdmin, but not through direct tools like Oracle's SQL Developer (with MySQL plugin), it says there's a network error, so I'm thinkning "firewall"
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> escott: thanks, I'll try my iptables
[17:51] <escott> HelloWorld321, run that from the command line. if the output shows no chains you have no firewall
[17:51] <donvito3> because one is ubuntu recovery console
[17:51] <vlt> EliahKagan: Yes, I could use FF but the default browser for the links here on terminal is chromium. And yes, it also opened for a few seconds before.
[17:52] <ubuntu_64bit> i have install ubuntu 12.04 there is a problem with a usb huawei modem
[17:52] <EliahKagan> vlt: maybe the problem is user-specific but not in .config/chromium ...does it work in another user account (or the guest account)?
[17:52] <ubuntu_64bit> i have install ubuntu 12.04 there is a problem with a usb huawei modem
[17:52] <vlt> EliahKagan: I will try. I got that one when just trying again: chromium-browser: /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed.
[17:53] <vlt> EliahKagan: Abgebrochen (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
[17:53] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: Ah.  You should double check that MySQL is in fact configured to accept network connections.  I think sometimes the default install doesn't allow them until you tell it to explicitly.
[17:53] <wobble> Hi, where do i find  a ubuntu live iso to download  ?
[17:53] <HelloWorld321> I've got my user set up for % hosts
[17:53] <ramon> can you play games like call of duty and half life 2 on ubuntu  any way
[17:53] <nobody460> hello I just installed 12.04 32bit but there is a problem with the display. Can anybody help please?
[17:53] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: it also could be working on some port other than 3306, but someone would have had to configure that specifically.
[17:53] <vlt> wobble: You get a link (but not a direct one to an iso) on ubuntu.com/download
[17:54] <vlt> !details | nobody460
[17:54] <EliahKagan> wobble: the desktop CD is a live .iso image: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[17:54] <ubuntu_64bit> wobble, visit ubuntu homw page www.ubuntu.com then go to download
[17:54] <sirriffsalot> My upper right toolbar with system settings monitor button etc has disappeared, and I was silly enough to exit the error message without checking... any ideas?
[17:54] <sirriffsalot> Running 12.04 ...
[17:54] <ubuntu_64bit> wobble, see EliahKagan
[17:55] <vlt> How to switch to another user?
[17:55] <sirriffsalot> vlt: log out:P
[17:55] <nobody460> OK desktop is displayed correctly, but anywhere I click i see just black squares insted of app windows
[17:55] <wobble> Sorry i mean can i live boot ubuntu with the http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop download without installing first , yeah ?
[17:55] <vlt> sirriffsalot: o_O
[17:55] <sirriffsalot> wobble: yes
[17:55] <EliahKagan> vlt: the guest account is an option on the login screen
[17:55] <vlt> How to switch to another user w/o logging out?
[17:55] <sirriffsalot> vlt: you can't
[17:55] <HelloWorld321> vlt: su
[17:55] <vlt> WTF?
[17:56] <wawowe> donvito3: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partion(0)WINDOWS(1)="Windows"/fastdetect/Noexecute=op
[17:56] <vlt> That worled in 10.04.
[17:56] <vlt> *worked
[17:56] <sirriffsalot> vlt: oh
[17:56] <sirriffsalot> vlt: uhm, I think I've misunderstood...
[17:56] <escott> vlt, fast user switching shouldn't log you out, but you could also go to a tty (ctrl-alt-f1) and startx a new gui session
[17:56] <wawowe> donvito3: if that doesn't work you'll have wubi as a fallback
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> nobody460, have you completely updated and looked at the additonal drivers for any missing drivers>
[17:56] <wawowe> donvito3: may be safer to just try the install again
[17:56] <EliahKagan> vlt: you can try running chromium with the gksu -u or gksudo -u command (not su/sudo, that will mess things up), but you shouldn't, because that doesn't fully account for all differences between the two accounts; problems in your current account could still potentially make chromium-browser not work if you run in another account with gksu/gksudo
[17:57] <HelloWorld321> vlt: if you mean in a terminal session, try the "su" command to become another user
[17:57] <Pankaj> After reinstalling ubuntu, it does not show me wired interface, neither headphones work nor brightness decresaes. In short, many hardware problems. I tried this formatting and installing many times but of no use.
[17:57] <EliahKagan> escott: it is not generally possible to startx a new GUI session from a virtual console, without configuring things first to make that work or passing arguments to startx
[17:57] <sirriffsalot> When I run "sudo gnome-panel" the left pane appears again, but if I kill the terminal it disappears again...
[17:57] <ubuntu_64bit> wobble, see EliahKagan
[17:57] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321:  The other thing to remember is that command I gave you to check if MySQL is running is case sensitive.  LISTEN really has to be in all caps otherwise grep won't find it.
[17:58] <ubuntu_64bit> i have install ubuntu 12.04 there is a problem with a usb huawei modem
[17:58] <vlt> vlt, sirriffsalot, escott, HelloWorld321 and others: I found it. You have to click on the _name_, not on the icon in the upper right corner.
[17:58] <EliahKagan> wobble: if you download from that site it will automatically pick a good mirror, that is better than any direct link we can give you, is that not working for you?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> !pm | nobody460 I wopuld not jsut pm without asking.
[17:59] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: okay, I see it.  Thanks.  Looks like my port is open
[17:59] <HelloWorld321> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3306          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[17:59] <sirriffsalot> vlt: \o/
[17:59] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: If that's the only line it's listening on localhost only.
[17:59] <nobody460> :willie-nilee sorry, I'm new in mIRC too :)
[18:00] <HelloWorld321> That's the only line
[18:00] <ubuntu_64bit> ubottu,  acha kutuzingua
[18:00] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: got any tips on how to get MySQL to listen on another subnet?
[18:00] <EliahKagan> wobble: if you need a direct link you can use http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso (32-bit) or http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso (64-bit) but that may not be as fast as an autoselected mirror (go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop, pick 32-bit or 64-bit, and click Start download)
[18:00]  * wilee-nilee wonders why 
[18:03] <Bounceand> Test
[18:03] <sirriffsalot> Bounceand: pong
[18:03] <daze> does anybody know how I minimize xchat to the launchbar? now 'minimize' puts it in the tray every time.. :/
[18:03] <vlt> Please excuse my language.
[18:03] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: You have to change the bind-address in my.cnf to listen on the IP address or subnet of your machine.
[18:03] <vlt> WHAT THE FSCK?!?!?!
[18:03] <Bounceand> Thnx ping
[18:03] <Jancoover_> ##programming
[18:03] <vlt> I could read files from another user!
[18:04] <Bounceand> Hi everybody
[18:04] <EliahKagan> vlt: when you were guest, or when you were a different (real) user
[18:04] <EliahKagan> for guest to be able to do that is bad...for another real user to be able to do that is fine so long as the user who owns the files has permissions set to allow it
[18:04] <EliahKagan> hi Bounceand
[18:05] <vlt> I created another user, switched to that (using the menu I found) and could read files of my other user.
[18:05] <vlt> EliahKagan: ^
[18:05] <EliahKagan> vlt: yeah that might be fine, check your permissions
[18:05] <EliahKagan> Ubuntu has permissive permissions by default
[18:05] <vlt> EliahKagan: I didn’t change them.
[18:05] <EliahKagan> you can change it though
[18:05] <vlt> Ubutnu has what?
[18:05] <vlt> The default is that users can read each others home dirs?
[18:06] <EliahKagan> vlt: yes, this is by design, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Policies#Permissive_Home_Directory_Access
[18:06] <EliahKagan> but note that guest is not supposed to be able to do this (AppArmor is used to constrain what guest can do)
[18:07] <vlt> I love that euphemism here: “allow users to easily share files and help each other”
[18:08] <vlt> EliahKagan: Ok, back to topic: I logged in as the other (fresh) user and got the segfault crash again in chromium.
[18:08] <EliahKagan> vlt: that's not a euphemism, this was not done by mistake and it would not be hard to change it, it hasn't been changed because the security team decided that this is preferable to more restrictive behavior; the link i posted explains how to change the default on your system
[18:09] <EliahKagan> vlt: darn, i was hoping it was something in your user account
[18:09] <EliahKagan> vlt: i don't remember, did you purge and reinstall chromium-browser?
[18:09] <BLZbubba> how do you stop pulse audio from running?
[18:09] <EliahKagan> if not, try that -- that will wipe out global configuration files
[18:09] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: You also have to do some grants to allow specific users access to databases from remote addresses.  If you wanted root to be able to connect to any database from  192.161.1.0-254 you would have to say something like grant all on *.* to root@'192.168.1.%' IDENTIFIED BY "mysecretpassword";
[18:10] <EliahKagan> vlt: sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install chromium-browser
[18:10] <jack_> After reinstalling ubuntu, it does not show me wired interface, neither headphones work nor brightness decresaes. In short, many hardware problems. I tried this formatting and installing many times but of no use.
[18:10] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: I've got that.  I'm still trying to find where MySQL installed the my.cnf file.
[18:11] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321: Try "locate my.cnf"
[18:11] <HelloWorld321> looiks like its in /etc/mysql
[18:11] <vlt> EliahKagan: Ah, thanks, just ran the purge command and was going to run install afterwards
[18:11] <EliahKagan> vlt: that works too
[18:13] <BLZbubba> pulse audio keeps coming back after I kill it, @$^  -- there must be a proper way to disable it without doing something nasty like chmod -x
[18:13] <vlt> EliahKagan: segfault
[18:13] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: a couple more questions about adding the bind-address to my.cnf ...
[18:13] <vlt> EliahKagan: dmesg: [ 5692.191485] chromium-browse[5248]: segfault at b7975000 ip b41e3450 sp bfda0d60 error 6 in chromium-browser[b3631000+41b4000]
[18:14] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: can I put multiple bind-address lines?  Can I keep the old 127.0.0.1 and add a new subnet below it?
[18:14] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: can I use * in the subnet?  or should I use 255 or % or something else?
[18:15] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: do I need to restart MySQL to activate the new bind-address?
[18:15] <terafl0ps> Not sure about multiple bind addresses.   A restart of the mysql service is definitely necessary.
[18:16] <vlt> EliahKagan: And now?
[18:17] <wawowe> BLZbubba: maybe /etc/xdg/autostart, or /etc/default/pulseaudio. but i would just do something nasty
[18:17] <EliahKagan> vlt: i don't know, you could try enabling apport and reporting the crash (during which you may find suggested duplicates coming up that contain info about workarounds): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport
[18:17] <lduros> i have an asus u46 laptop and for some reason in Ubuntu 12.04 I can't tap to click with the touchpad
[18:17] <lduros> any idea what's going on?
[18:18] <lduros> :-)
[18:18] <Kaleidoscope> Quick question, My hard drive failed, so I'm running off a USB stick at the moment, I installed to it through Unetbootin, And I was just wondering, Will changes I make stay applied to it? Or will I lose everything each time I restart?
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> tx terafl0ps: u r teh uber
[18:18] <EliahKagan> vlt: or if Chrome would meet your needs, you could install that
[18:18] <trism> BLZbubba: ~/.pulse/client.conf create/add: autospawn=no
[18:18] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321:  It turns out  if no address or 0.0.0.0 is specified, the server listens on all interfaces.
[18:19] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: gotcha.  tx.  And then I control it from inside the MySQL user permissions
[18:19] <trism> BLZbubba: see: man pulse-client.conf; for all the options and more detail
[18:20] <EliahKagan> Kaleidoscope: no, changes made to a live USB are not persistent
[18:21] <Kaleidoscope> EliahKagan, Figures, Alright thanks man
[18:21] <vlt> EliahKagan: apport says it’s already running, maybe I eventually checked “don’t ever ask me again when chromium crashes”. How to enable it again?
[18:22] <wawowe> Kaleidoscope: tar xvpf your changes
[18:22] <EliahKagan> vlt: check inside /etc/apport/blacklist.d, also check for .crash files for it inside /var/crash
[18:24] <vlt> EliahKagan: I got an 8 MB log file in /var/crash.
[18:25] <EliahKagan> vlt: if the log file is for chromium-browser and you're cd'd to the /var/crash directory, you can submit it with: ubuntu-bug FILENAME
[18:25] <pie_> what does ubuntu mount when it says mounting some kind of cryptswap stuff on boot?
[18:25] <pie_> it'd be counterproductive if the decryption key was on the disk...
[18:25] <EliahKagan> vlt: alternatively if you delete it and make sure chromium-browser is not blacklisted in /etc/apport/blacklist.d, then when you produce the crash again you should get the option to submit it
[18:26] <vlt> EliahKagan: The file is of course for chromium. It’s from the other user session. bz2 is still 6 MB.
[18:27] <vlt> EliahKagan: I'll use ubuntu-bug.
[18:27] <sollidsnake> My message indicator is not highlighting when I get new messages or mail. Anybody knows what I can do to fix this?
[18:28] <EliahKagan> vlt, you may as well go back to the original user account
[18:31] <jack_> After reinstalling ubuntu, it does not show me wired interface, neither headphones work nor brightness decresaes. In short, many hardware problems. I tried this formatting and installing many times but of no use.
[18:32] <fellayaboy> does 12.04 have a dns cache?
[18:32] <sollidsnake> jack, it is probally the kernel version
[18:32] <sollidsnake> try using another ubuntu version and see if this happens
[18:33] <zaki> hi all i ned help
[18:33] <reisio> zaki: okay
[18:33] <zaki> raisio: my wifi is conected bt i cant browse internet
[18:34] <zaki> raisio: description: Wireless interface        product: Centrino Advanced-N 6205        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0        logical name: wlan0        version: 34        serial: a0:88:b4:2c:f9:54        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversio
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, built into the kernel.
[18:34] <fellayaboy> is there a way to flush it wilee-nilee
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, check out this thread post. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968061
[18:35] <vlt> EliahKagan: I `ran ubuntu-bug <file>`, checked the “send report” box and pressed one of the buttons. The program was fnished and now there’s a constant upload to gremlin.canonical.com but I got no bug number or anything. What happens now? How to get chromium working on 12.04?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, I lost my opendns with it running.
[18:37] <vlt> EliahKagan: The upload has finished. It was 6 MB, so it used compression internally ;-)
[18:37] <zaki> reisio:my wifi connected bt i cant able to browse
[18:37] <fellayaboy> i just want to know how to flush the dns cache
[18:37] <fellayaboy> if there is one
[18:38] <zaki> hi al
[18:38] <sollidsnake> My message indicator is not highlighting when I get new messages or mail. Anybody knows what I can do to fix this?
[18:38] <reisio> hiyo
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, even if you do it will proceed to cache again, but this is not an area of expertise for me, I could not get it flushed.
[18:38] <zaki> i ned help on my wifi
[18:38] <EliahKagan> vlt: i was just about to ask you if a web browser opened up with the page in Launchpad :-(
[18:38] <stueng> does anyone know what config files are modified when configuring "desktop sharing" ?
[18:39] <zaki> reisio: can u help me
[18:39] <reisio> zaki: what's the problem
[18:39] <EliahKagan> vlt: i guess you'll have to use apport-cli instead of ubuntu-bug, sorryy
[18:39] <EliahKagan> *sorry
[18:39] <zaki> reisio: wifi conected but i cant browse internet
[18:39] <ufrgs> ssta, cool app man! thank you a lot!
[18:40] <zaki> reisio:  description: Wireless interface        product: Centrino Advanced-N 6205        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0        logical name: wlan0        version: 34        serial: a0:88:b4:2c:f9:54        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversi
[18:40] <stueng> wall of text
[18:40] <stueng> !paste
[18:40] <stueng> zaki: read that ^^
[18:41] <stueng> zaki: and then tell me what the output of ifconfig wlan0 is
[18:42] <fAz4> i get   error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.62:
[18:42] <fAz4> while ldconfig -v shows  libjpeg.so.62 !?
[18:42] <reisio> stueng: still, he did it in only one msg, you took three
[18:43] <reisio> zaki: what does your browser say?
[18:43] <stueng> does anyone know what config files are modified when configuring "desktop sharing" ?
[18:43] <zaki> reisio:server cant find
[18:44] <reisio> zaki: this is your home network?
[18:44] <zaki> reisio:yeah
[18:44] <reisio> zaki: what's the router?
[18:44] <reisio> zaki: which browser?
[18:45] <zaki> reisio : firefox
[18:45] <Chat5470> Hi
[18:45] <HelloWorld321> terafl0ps: tx again
[18:45] <zaki> reisio: i can browse while conected to ethernet
[18:45] <reisio> zaki: mmhmmm
[18:46] <reisio> zaki: does your router support ipv6?
[18:46] <terafl0ps> HelloWorld321:you're welcome
[18:46] <zaki> reisio:yeah
[18:46] <reisio> zaki: actually we can take a step back: can you ping another computer on your network by IP?
[18:46] <zaki> reisio:let me check
[18:46] <stueng> zaki: show us the output of ifconfig wlan0 in paste bin
[18:47] <silvertux> is there an ubuntu 12 dvd alternate?
[18:47] <stueng> silvertux: yes
[18:47] <silvertux> sure? where
[18:47] <stueng> silvertux: where do you think?
[18:47] <silvertux> i can find only the cd
[18:47] <zaki> stueng: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008534/
[18:47] <silvertux> stueng, only cd i see
[18:48] <stueng> silvertux: yes, alternate CD.. why would you need a DVD?
[18:48] <zaki> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008534/
[18:48] <silvertux> stueng, software included.... but they will develop an alternate dvd or never?
[18:49] <silvertux> something is changed about grub in 11 and 12? recovery systems ar the same?
[18:49] <stueng> silvertux: oh I see, I dunno
[18:49] <Guest92764> Hi.Should I install graphic drivers on Ubuntu
[18:49] <Guest92764> I have dual monitor and sensors reports with one monitor running 48 C
[18:50] <Guest92764> on windoes its 34 C
[18:50] <stueng> zaki: type ping 173.194.78.94 , what is output ?
[18:50] <erealz> what drive in ubunt that allow muti monitor support?
[18:50] <wilx> bazhang: Development. Testing that my library compiles with it.
[18:50] <Guest92764> ?
[18:50] <reisio> erealz: what's your graphics device?
[18:51] <wilx> bazhang: I am replying to my GCC 4.8 question from several hours ago :)
[18:51] <Guest92764> HD 5850
[18:51] <erealz> laptop
[18:51] <Khmerog> hi
[18:51] <Guest92764> desktop
[18:51] <reisio> erealz: nvidia, ati, intel, etc.
[18:51] <silvertux> tnks stueng
[18:51] <erealz> nvidia
[18:51] <Guest92764> no just ati
[18:51] <zaki> stueng:PING 173.194.78.94 (173.194.78.94) 56(84) bytes of data. ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable
[18:51] <Nardella> Hello, I am trying to get my wireless card working, when I run "additional drivers" a window opens with the text "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" and some empty space, a greyed out "enable" button then a help and close button
[18:52] <Nardella> what should I do next?
[18:52] <donvito2> ubuntu 12.04 is too slow
[18:52] <stueng> zaki: output of the command "route" please
[18:52] <Khmerog> Ubuntu 12.04 runs off Unity and.or gnome?
[18:52] <Khmerog> donvito really?? whats your PC sp[ecs?
[18:52] <stueng> Khmerog: type !notunity
[18:52] <Guest92764> should i install driver will temps go down
[18:52] <Khmerog> !notunity
[18:52] <donvito2> well i have a laptop with 2 gb ram
[18:52] <stueng> zaki: I gtg, but make sure you can ping your "default gateway"
[18:52] <sergwy> 12.04 has too many bugs yet, but it's not slow
[18:53] <donvito2> the graphic card is not good
[18:53] <donvito2> maybe thats why ?
[18:53] <Khmerog> donvito you should probably either get linux mint or Xubuntu then
[18:53] <donvito2> hehe the point is to use ubuntu
[18:53] <donvito2> right?
[18:53] <donvito2> :)
[18:54] <terafl0ps> donvito: or login using gnome "without effects"
[18:54] <Ken7383> Although MInt 13 is now out, I suggest Mint 12 which is stable.
[18:54] <zaki> stueng:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008550/
[18:54] <donvito2> terafl0ps
[18:54] <Khmerog> my Desktop PC has 8gb and runs ubuntu/kubuntu like butter...but my laptop P4 1.7ghz + 2gb ram runs linux mint 12 okay (not smooth) but definately useable..it runs lubuntu veery smooth also
[18:54] <donvito2> looks like ill try that
[18:54] <zaki> stueng:i cant able to
[18:54] <xxl> ;-)
[18:55] <terafl0ps> donvito2: Do you know where the option is in the login screen?  I think you have to click the gnome foot to see it.
[18:55] <Khmerog> yes you can disable some effects i guess...what part do u find slow? give an example? like when loading up apps? browsing web on (which web browser) ?
[18:55] <donvito2> yes khem__
[18:55] <donvito2> Khmerog also when i move mouse
[18:55] <zaki> reisio: :-)
[18:55] <donvito2> what line i need to add on boot.ini to be able to chose ubuntu instead windows xp
[18:55] <zaki> reisio:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008550/
[18:56] <Khmerog> im going to try to run Homefront game on PlayonLinux :P..I finally got Steam to work on Linux OS
[18:56] <Nardella> did anybody read my question?
[18:57] <bartha> Nardella post it again?
[18:57] <Nardella>  Hello, I am trying to get my wireless card working, when I run "additional drivers" a window opens with the text "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" and some empty space, a greyed out "enable" button then a help and close button
[18:57] <Nardella> what should i do next?
[18:57] <bartha> is your card external or internal?
[18:57] <Nardella> internal
[18:58] <bartha> did you check if its recognised already?
[18:58] <donvito2> what line i need to add on boot.ini to be able to chose ubuntu instead windows xp
[18:58] <wawowe> donvito2 C:\Wubildr.mbr = "Ubuntu Wubi"
[18:58] <bartha> Nardella could you try dmesg | grep wireless ?
[18:59] <donvito2> hey wawowe thanks
[18:59] <bartha> see if something shows up?
[18:59] <Nardella> how do i open the terminal?
[18:59] <zykotick9> bartha: "... | grep -i wireless" might work better
[18:59] <jack_> sollidsnake , previously everything was working fine, but one day ubuntu was crashed while forcibly shutting down, and after then reinstalling it gives same problem. I tried installing same image as well as different images downloaded from website, but none of them proved fruitful. Everything works fine in Windows which I installed side by side on different partition.
[18:59] <donvito2> brb
[18:59] <jack_>  
[19:00] <bartha> zykotick9 yep..
[19:00] <OerHeks> Nardella, ctrl + alt + T terminal
[19:00] <bartha> Nardella what version of ubuntu are you using?
[19:00] <bartha> there you go
[19:00] <Nardella> i just downloaded it a few minutes ago, not sure
[19:01] <bartha> you could do lsb_release
[19:01] <bartha> see what comes up..
[19:02] <bartha> Nardella btw do everything in terminal..
[19:02] <Nardella> looks like i need to download firmeware
[19:02] <bartha> what is it saying?
[19:02] <Nardella> b43-phy0 error you must go to *** and download the correct firmware
[19:02] <gapagos> help, i can only boot ubuntu with nomodeset option, which leaves me with poor video resolution support
[19:03] <L3top> lsb_release -sc
[19:03] <gapagos> i have an nvidia gefore9600 gt
[19:03] <Nardella> will installing new firmware affect my card in windows?
[19:03] <bartha> Nardella nope
[19:03] <Nardella> cool
[19:03] <Nardella> if i have further questions i will come back, thanks!
[19:03] <gapagos> also the ubuntu software center seems unable to download anything
[19:03] <bartha> you are doing a ||l install right?
[19:03] <L3top> gapagos: have you tried installing the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[19:04] <gapagos> L3top yes Ive tried and it doesn't work through console commands
[19:04] <wawowe> gapagos: console resolution or X?
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> gapagos:  but you can irc and web surf?
[19:04] <Jancoover> Serv identify passme
[19:04] <L3top> what doesn't work gapagos?
[19:05] <gapagos> Dr_Willis, wawoe, i get GUI just at 1280x760 with only software acceleration, image is distored with a widescreen
[19:05] <gapagos> L3top gimmie a sec ill redo it but i think it couldnt get the package from the server
[19:05] <zaki> bartha: i hav pro regerding wifi its conected bt i cant browse internet
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> gapagos:  for best use of the nvidia cards. you need the nvidia drivers. so you need to focus on getting the  apt system going. Does IRC and web surfing work on that machine?
[19:06] <Jancoover> dedooshka)
[19:06] <zaki> barthaP am using 12.04
[19:06] <L3top> gapagos: are you, by any chance, connecting to a dvi > vga adapter or something similar? And you will need to get your networking sorted before you do anything else
[19:06] <bartha> zaki..
[19:06] <bartha> can you connect thru wire?
[19:06] <zaki> bartha :yes
[19:06] <bartha> zaki: open up a terminal and can you ping your wireless router?
[19:07] <jack_> After reinstalling ubuntu, it does not show me wired interface, neither headphones work nor brightness decresaes. In short, many hardware problems. I tried this formatting and installing many times but of no use.
[19:07] <zaki> bartha :no
[19:07] <bartha> ping 10.0.0.1 /172.16.X.1 or /192.168.X.1
[19:07] <gapagos> when I enter in terminal sudo apt-get update i get "Unable to lock directory  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[19:07] <bartha> zaki: waht does it say?
[19:07] <zaki> bartha: i cant able to ping
[19:07] <bartha> gapagos close software center first
[19:07] <Nardella> after installing new wireless card firmware do I need to resatart before it works?
[19:08] <L3top> gapagos: do you have software center open?
[19:08] <bartha> Nardells it should work.. without restart
[19:08] <bartha> zaki: can you tell me what you are getting?
[19:08] <gapagos> L3top no I don't
[19:08] <bartha> zaki: host unreachable?
[19:08] <Nardella> still getting the firmware missing error
[19:08] <zaki> bartha: 56(84) bytes of data. ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable
[19:08] <gapagos> L3top no I closed it but it still does the same thing, can I kill it another way?
[19:08] <L3top> gapagos: SOMETHING is holding open apt... update manager... etc
[19:09] <bartha> zaki: ifconfig
[19:09] <bartha> and tell me what you see
[19:09] <gapagos> L3top, anyway softare manager (when it's open) can't seem to get updates either
[19:09] <bartha> then do iwconfig and tell me if you see your wireless associated with any AP
[19:10] <zaki> bartha:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008571/
[19:10] <L3top> gapagos: ctrl + alt + f2 and type: sudo service lightdm stop
[19:10] <L3top> gapagos: then sudo apt-get update      tell me the result of that
[19:11] <bartha> zaki: you are connected can you ping 192.168.2.1 in your terminal?
[19:11] <zaki> bartha:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008573/
[19:11] <L3top> and again gapagos, are you connecting from your pc to your monitor through any kind of converter eg DVI > VGA
[19:11] <OerHeks> Nardella, yes, reboot after installing firmware
[19:12] <Nardella> thanks
[19:12] <bartha> zaki: what kind of intel firmware is it?
[19:12] <zaki> bartha: 56(84) bytes of data. ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable
[19:12] <IBMHPGOOGLE> If I have ubuntu can I install debian by typing something even if I need to remove debian
[19:12] <zaki> bartha: how can ifind firmware
[19:13] <reisio> IBMHPGOOGLE: technically
[19:13] <bartha> zaki could you type netstat -r and see if waht the routes are?
[19:13] <reisio> IBMHPGOOGLE: what makes you think you need Debian
[19:13] <gapagos> L3top gimmie a sec it was hard enough to get out of the black full screen terminal mode lol
[19:13] <Khmerog> what is the app for ubuntu that auto mounts your hard drive at start up?
[19:13] <gapagos> my connection is DVI to monitor, no VGA involved
[19:13] <OerHeks> IBMHPGOOGLE, better ask in #debian
[19:13] <reisio> Khmerog: grub, the kernel, /etc/fstab
[19:13] <bartha> Khmerog: change the entry in your fstab
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> Khmerog:  at Boot time, the fstab is read and used
[19:14] <L3top> IBMHPGOOGLE no.  Not really. It would be a whole lot easier to backup your data, install debian , and move your data over
[19:14] <Guest92764> I have AMD HD 5850 grapghic card Ubuntu 12.04 my temps are 49 C in windows they are 34 C, I have an aftermark cooler  - why are the temps so High
[19:14] <zaki> bartha:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008534/
[19:14] <Guest92764> Is the profiles set to perfomance
[19:14] <gapagos> L3top, it gives me the same error with sudo apt-get update even in the terminal ctrl alt F2 mode
[19:14] <OerHeks> Khisanth, pysdm is a gui tool to mount partitions
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> !info psydm
[19:15] <bartha> zaki: is the same pastie
[19:15] <L3top> gapagos: did you shutdown the desktop manager?
[19:15] <Loveeyhuu> Hi
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> !info pysdm
[19:15] <Nardella> okay, im still getting the firmware missing error
[19:15] <zaki> bartha: netstat -r Kernel IP routing table Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface default         192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 wlan0 link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 wlan0 192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 wlan0
[19:15] <bartha> oops! not that way zaki!
[19:15] <L3top> Guest92764: what driver are you running?
[19:15] <gapagos> L3top, how do I shutdown the desktop manager
[19:15] <zaki> bartha sory
[19:16] <Guest92764> native ubunut 12.04 drivers
 gapagos: ctrl + alt + f2 and type: sudo service lightdm stop
[19:16] <bartha> zaki: thats fine..
[19:16] <bartha> zaki: your routes look fine..
[19:16] <bartha> ok.. lets do an arp
[19:16] <Khmerog> im trying to install flash player for kubuntu..weird that im able to play youtube video (uses flash right?) but videos on Steam says i need flash...Do i download YUM or .tar.gz or .rpm or apt?
[19:16] <bartha> and see what comes up
[19:16] <bartha> terminal arp
[19:16] <gapagos> L3top, ok ill try that
[19:17] <zaki> bartha:arp?
[19:17] <OerHeks> Khmerog, flash on steam sounds like a wine issue
[19:17] <L3top> Guest92764: the open source radeon driver is not ideally suited for your card, though frankly I prefer it. Install the proprietary fglrx driver and check your temps.
[19:17] <Khmerog> u are right i was running steam on wine
[19:17] <Khmerog> but which of those files should i be downloading?
[19:18] <Guest92764> will it f*ck up my system :P
[19:18] <Khmerog> i am  guessing Tar.gz?  they all say Linux 64
[19:18] <L3top> Guest92764: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[19:18] <bartha> zaki: yep in terminal type arp
[19:18] <zaki> bartha ok
[19:18] <wawowe> Khmerog: you'd need windows flash
[19:18] <OerHeks> Khmerog, maybe winetricks has something for flash
[19:18] <Guest92764> wow 231 mb
[19:18] <L3top> Guest92764: no... it will use the drivers ATI made for your card, and unlock accelleration etc... btw they dont like language even starred out in here.
[19:18] <reisio> Khmerog: none of the above, you install with the package manager
[19:19] <zaki> bartha:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008582/
[19:19] <bartha> zaki: do you have wired and wireless running right now?
[19:19] <OerHeks> !wine
[19:19] <reisio> 'Wine'
[19:19] <Guest92764> ok sorry
[19:19] <Nardella> Okay, i htink i know what went wrong. I downloaded the firmware installer but did not run it, how do i run it?
[19:19] <L3top> Guest92764: However the linux support for ATI is terrible too in contrast.
[19:19] <Guest92764> thanks will install and report back
[19:20] <bartha> zaki: it some times happens in ubuntu. It does not know how to route. So disconnect wired and see if wireless works..
[19:20] <zaki> bartha : both conected bt wen iremv wire i cant browse internet stil wifi is conected
[19:20] <bartha> zaki: your arp has two routes to the same thing
[19:20] <Guest92764> i remmeber that you can set the profile  for the native driver
[19:20] <Guest92764> like low normal and performance
[19:20] <L3top> Guest92764: to answer your original question though, why it is not like it is in windows is due to the manufacturer, and their closed source driver, and the level of importance they place on *nix support.
[19:20] <zaki> bartha: i tryd bt not working
[19:20] <bartha> zaki: disconnect wired, in terminal type " sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[19:21] <bartha> zaki: that should register you back on the wireless
[19:21] <bartha> and lets see if ti works fine
[19:21] <zaki> bartha: let me check
[19:21] <daze> why don't manufacturers opensource their drivers? =)
[19:21] <zaki> bartha: b back
[19:21] <bartha> daze: its not in the best interest of theirs..
[19:21] <Guest92764> Yes. Where is the profile located for the native drivers
[19:21] <bartha> zaki: sure
[19:21] <Guest92764> confg
[19:22] <daze> but what's there to hide in driver code? :]
[19:22] <L3top> daze that is an involved answer which is best debated in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:22] <daze> hehe, ok
[19:22] <reisio> daze: it's more about tradition and not wanting to give up control
[19:22] <bartha> reisio +1
[19:22] <gapagos> L3top i did not figre out how to return to the GUI after your CTRL + ALT F2 command this time
[19:23] <gapagos> I had to reboot my entire computer :-(
[19:23] <daze> to be somewhat on topic, I just went from Windows7 to Ubuntu this week and NVIDIA 295.40 driver messed up things badly (everything was reaaaaaly slow).
[19:23] <bartha> ALT F7 I think..
[19:23] <L3top> well... yeah... we shut it down gapagos... you didn't ask... I assumed you were on a different computer.
[19:23] <gapagos> L3top also it gave me the same error as before
[19:24] <daze> and I'm currently not using any 'restricted' video driver, but ubuntu runs in "3D" mode with, I suppose, acceptable video performance
[19:24] <reisio> daze: fixed it?
[19:24] <TheShrub> gapagos: yeah, its Ctrl-Alt-F7 (on my setup at the very least)
[19:24] <daze> reisio, well I had two reinstalls that day, so yeah :D
[19:24] <L3top> me as well daze, but definitely does run hotter.
[19:24] <gapagos> TheShrub, I tried Ctrl-Alt-F1to12 and id did not work
[19:24] <reisio> :/
[19:25] <gapagos> the point is:
[19:25] <daze> the whole experience was good, though. I'm a happy Ubuntu convert.
[19:25] <L3top> TheShrub: gapagos, we SHUT DOWN the desktop... it would have to be started again to get back
[19:26] <gapagos> 1) I can't boot Ubuntu without nomodeset; 2) can't get sudo apt-get update to work; 3) I can't install nvidia drivers through command line.
[19:26] <donvito2> i cant and i cant fix, the boot option
[19:26] <donvito2> i install grub2 grub
[19:26] <L3top> Regardless, gapagos... can you please open a terminal and type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:26] <zaki> bartha: * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[19:26] <donvito2> and nothing the menu doesnt show
[19:26] <bartha> gapagos: have you check if its /etc/apt/ has the source files?
[19:26] <gapagos> L3top ok I did, it provided no return line
[19:26] <testi> How can I reset font settings?
[19:26] <Nardella> I have run "apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer" how do i run it
[19:26] <gapagos> bartha speak Common English ;)
[19:27] <L3top> gapagos: we can unlock the directory... but I am very baffled as to why it is locked.
[19:27] <gapagos> Imagine I'm a hot blonde with large boobs
[19:27] <bartha> gapagos: LOL
[19:27] <daze> the single thing that was keeping me from converting to Linux all these years was terrible font rendering. And with Ubuntu 12 it seems to be Mac-like, even better. So I'm really enjoying the newfound ground here :)
[19:27] <bartha> gapagos: check if the apt has the source list at that location
[19:27] <bartha> zaki: what happened?
[19:27] <gapagos> L3top just for general info, my ubuntu 12.04 is a fresh install
[19:27] <zaki> bartha: * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[19:28] <bartha> zaki: did it say it found someone offering IP?
[19:28] <bartha> zaki: or is it in sleep? ( waiting for an DHCP offer)?
[19:28] <gapagos> I only repaired the GRUB because the default grub installation wouldn't even boot it said "no such device"
[19:28] <IBMHPGOOGLE> L3 top: why can install it in fedora but not in ubuntu is based on debian it should be
[19:28] <giovanni60> hello
[19:28] <giovanni60> I put a 2 ° hd (slave) that I use as data, but sometimes it apart and I no longer have access, I repeat again the installation, but subsequently is disassembled: Using Ubuntu 12.04, hd problems?
[19:29] <bartha> giovanni60: could you explain more clearly?
[19:29] <zaki> bartha:its got ip its conected bt i cant browse
[19:29] <bartha> ok..
[19:29] <Nardella> I have run "apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer" how do i run it
[19:29] <bartha> zaki: do not connect your wired back.. lets be on wireless
[19:29] <bartha> zaki: now in terminal type ping 192.168.2.1
[19:30] <zaki> ok
[19:30] <gapagos> also it's weird, youtube used to work last time I booted, and now it doesn't work anymore, it says flash plugin failed to install
[19:30] <Nardella> ok that sounds redundant, let me rephrase
[19:30] <Nardella> I have run "apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer" how do i run the installer
[19:30] <bartha> Nardella is it a .run?
[19:30] <gapagos> My Ubuntu installation is going bad from worse and I'm not even doing anything to it
[19:30] <bartha> then just ./X.run
[19:30] <gapagos> Like wtf
[19:30] <Nardella> bartha i have no idea
[19:30] <zaki> bartha: ping 192.168.2.1 PING 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:31] <bartha> zaki: you have to hold on.. ping takes time..
[19:31] <bartha> Nardella can you tell me the type of file?
[19:31] <bartha> is it a .deb .run ?
[19:31] <bartha> or just a tar.gz?
[19:31] <Nardella> no i cannot
[19:31] <Nardella> I dont know where it is
[19:31] <gapagos> So can anyone help me or is Ubuntu just not working as badly as it was 5 years ago
[19:31] <L3top> gapagos: try sudo rm /etc/apt/lists/lock
[19:32] <gapagos> L3top it says:
[19:32] <bartha> Nardella..
[19:32] <gapagos> rm: cannot remove `/etc/apt/lists/lock': No such file or directory
[19:32] <bartha> you downlodaed the file right?
[19:32] <bartha> Nardella: you do not know where the file is?
[19:32] <Nardella> yes using the terminal
[19:32] <L3top> ls /etc/apt/lists
[19:32] <L3top> gapagos: ^
[19:32] <Nardella> i do not know where the terminal puts it
[19:32] <daze> oh, btw, what antivirus software are you using, if any?
[19:32] <gapagos> L3top: ls: cannot access /etc/apt/lists: No such file or directory
[19:32] <bartha> Nardella: it will be in pwd
[19:33] <Nardella> where is pwd?
[19:33] <bartha> Nardella: just do an "ls -la" command or "ls -laht"
[19:33] <bartha> and look at the top most file
[19:33] <bartha> pwd = prsent working directory
[19:34] <zaki> bartha: ping 192.168.2.1 PING 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:34] <bartha> zaki: do iwconfig
[19:34] <L3top> gapagos: I am sorry... we are looking in the wrong place... sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[19:34] <bartha> zaki: iwconfig in terminal
[19:34] <bartha> zaki: tell me what comes up
[19:34] <gapagos> L3top ok it gave me no error and no return
[19:34] <L3top> sudo apt-get update
[19:35] <L3top> gapagos: ^
[19:35] <zaki> bartha:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008573/
[19:35] <erealz> question how and where do you install lenses for unity
[19:35] <gapagos> L3top ok now it works :)
[19:35] <bartha> zaki: you are perfectly connected to wireless.. ( atleast from the looks of it)
[19:36] <Nardella> bartha: i dont understand, i ran the command, what next?
[19:36] <L3top> Ok... gapagos... now lets get the drivers you need.
[19:36] <gapagos> L3top actually now it's stuck at 91% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com]
[19:36] <L3top> just... let it go..
[19:36] <tarelerulz> running 12.04 and  turn on the hot spot feature ,but I can't change to no password and change it from add-hac  to infrastructure.  I just want to share my wired connection  wireless with my ps3 .  What should I do
[19:36] <erealz> lenses where is it?
[19:36] <zaki> bartha: ya bt stil i cant browse internet
[19:36] <bartha> zaki: lets do arp once more and send it as a pastie
[19:37] <L3top> gapagos: do not interrupt it... it will eventually timeout
[19:37] <L3top> gapagos: be right back...
[19:37] <zaki> bartha: arp Address                  HWtype  HWaddress           Flags Mask            Iface HW550                    ether   00:26:75:1d:a2:38   C                     wlan0
[19:37] <erealz> lenses
[19:37] <erealz> were
[19:37] <erealz> are
[19:37] <gapagos> l3top yeah how long will it take to timeout
[19:37] <erealz> lenses
[19:37] <FloodBot1> erealz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[19:38] <erealz> ok
[19:38] <gapagos> last time I checked DukeNukem forever has already been released. :-O
[19:38] <erealz> i just wanted to know where lenses are kept
[19:38] <erealz> i dont see them in the store
[19:38] <wawowe> tarelerulz: iptables -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[19:38] <bartha> zaki: gimme one sec
[19:38] <erealz> am i looking in the right place
[19:38] <wawowe> tarelerulz: iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o wlan0 -j ACCEPT
[19:38] <zaki> bartha: its ok
[19:39] <wawowe> tarelerulz: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE
[19:39] <wawowe> tarelerulz: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[19:39] <erealz> were can you find lenses
[19:39] <bartha> zaki: you must be having some problem in your route.
[19:39] <erealz> do you have to use apt-get
[19:39] <reisio> 2d to 3D always fails
[19:39] <bartha> zaki: thats the only reason things might not be working.
[19:39] <erealz> or is it in the store?
[19:39] <wawowe> tarelerulz: ifconfig wlan0 192.168.6.1
[19:39] <zaki> bartha:wat solution?
[19:39] <erealz> is there a special code for lenses
[19:39] <tarelerulz> wawowe , how do I know if that is working?
[19:39] <wawowe> tarelerulz: set ps3 static ip to 192.168.6.2
[19:40] <bartha> zaki: you are not setting a static IP?
[19:40] <wawowe> and add all that to /etc/rc.local
[19:40] <bartha> zaki: you are using DHCP right?
[19:40] <zaki> bartha:i tryed tat also
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> erealz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses
[19:40] <wawowe> tarelerulz:
[19:40] <zaki> yeah
[19:40] <DavidH2> ok i have two problems 1 my system tray isnt working, and #2 the menu options in libre office arent rendering right. they  look like this   file -  -  -  -  -
[19:40] <scarface> Why does Update Manager keep telling me "The list of changes is not available yet" for every package?  Been doing this since I installed 12.04.
[19:40] <L3top> gapagos: still hanging?
[19:40] <gapagos> l3top yes
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: sudo apt-get --reinstall install lo-menubar
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: does the same here in Quantal
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: that's my fix
[19:41] <bartha> ok zaki: lets try one more thing
[19:41] <DavidH2> im using 12.04
[19:41] <zaki> bartha ok
[19:41] <DoctorPepper> can  anyone help me ,  i have a issue with the global menu .  when running  under kde  all the application  menus are working right but the gtk3 menu   app  exports the menu   but  the menu  also s
[19:41] <bartha> zaki: ifconfig and give me the pastie
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: should be ok, the 2 are very similar
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> !bug 1004394
[19:41] <gapagos> L3top, it's not timing out it's just stuck there
[19:41] <DoctorPepper> stay on the  the application menu
[19:42] <L3top> well gapagos... something is very wrong there. I would go ahead and ctrl c and try and stop it.
[19:42] <bartha> zaki: can you do an ifconfig -a and gimme the pastie?
[19:42] <donvito2> im sick with this
[19:42] <donvito2> boot manager
[19:42] <gapagos> L3top ok it moved  and wrote Ign http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com precise InRelease              Ign http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates InRelease
[19:42] <zaki> bartha:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008616/
[19:42] <L3top> I would create a new sources.list file here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/     gapagos...
[19:42] <gapagos> L3top now it's stuck again, but at 92% instead of 91%
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: what's your issue?
[19:43] <donvito2> sec
[19:43] <donvito2> ill paste bin
[19:43] <DavidH2> david@Humphryesoffice:~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall install lo-menu
[19:43] <DavidH2> Reading package lists... Done
[19:43] <DavidH2> Building dependency tree
[19:43] <DavidH2> Reading state information... Done
[19:43] <DavidH2> E: Unable to locate package lo-menu
[19:43] <FloodBot1> DavidH2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <DavidH2> david@Humphryesoffice:~$
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !info lo-menu
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !info lo-menubar
[19:43] <zaki> bartha:u got it?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: ^
[19:43] <gapagos> L3top uh im not sure what to select there are so many options
[19:44] <donvito2> http://pastebin.com/seUVQCx8
[19:44] <gapagos> Why can't the normal sources list JUST WORK
[19:44] <gapagos> If I wanted to compile my own operating system I'd have studied in CS
[19:44] <donvito2> ActionParsnip
[19:45] <WarOfTheNerd> gapagos, sometimes compiling is good
[19:45] <donvito2> how to fix boot.ini so menu will show up
[19:45] <WarOfTheNerd> e.g. I now have one version of Wine that works on everything flawlessly
[19:45] <LjL> because obviously picking a dozen options on software sources amount to compiling your own operating system
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: i'm at wok and they proxy everything well, you can PM me it all if you want :)
[19:45] <DavidH2> still wonky after lo-menubar install
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: same as a fresh ubuntu user?
[19:46] <gapagos> WarOfTheNerd I have better things to do with my time than picking up all the options of things I don't understand
[19:46] <DavidH2> ??
[19:46] <gapagos> just like I don't remove every piece of my car when it won't run
[19:46] <zaki> bartha:?
[19:46] <WarOfTheNerd> gapagos, but you would buy a baby seat if you needed one, they don't come as standard
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: whats the issue?
[19:47] <WarOfTheNerd> gapagos, or you would replace the old tape player if you used CDs
[19:47] <gapagos> I would get ONE baby seat, I would not order all the baby seat parts individually
[19:47] <tarelerulz> wawowe , that was helpful and fast.  It looked like the gui tools should work ,but they show a connection  ,but nothing happens .   Like the ps3 could not even see my computer.  It seem like you should not need to go to command line for feature that is officially in the os  ,but you do
[19:47] <gapagos> The baby seat would be in a  store in a full package in a nice box
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: make a new ubuntu user, log off then log in as the new user, is it the same?
[19:47] <DavidH2> should i mention its the menu bar in  libre-office  writher?
[19:47] <dlentz> baby seats? what channel is this?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: what is the issue
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> DavidH2: could try renaming ~/.config/libreoffice    then rerun the app
[19:48] <gapagos> ActionParsnip, I can't install nvidia drivers and I can't complete sudo apt-get update
[19:48] <DavidH2> first i need to get my sys-tray back also
[19:48] <gapagos> and I can't boot without nomodeset option
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     wuill install the nvidia drivers
[19:49] <dlentz> gapagos, what card d you have?
[19:49] <gapagos> ActionParnsnip here's the error it gives me:
[19:49] <gapagos> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | gapagos
[19:49] <gapagos> dlentz, I have a nvidia 9600 gt
[19:50] <WarOfTheNerd> gapagos, is Ubuntu Software Centre running right now?
[19:50] <gapagos> WarOfTheNerd no it isn't, I get the same crap even in CTRL ALT F2 mode or whatever you call it
[19:50] <L3top> WarOfTheNerd: no... the lock file was hosed, we unlocked it, then apt-get update hung and locked it again.
[19:50] <sandking> hi
[19:51] <L3top> gapagos: follow the factoid ActionParsnip sent you... a much less hacky way than mine to resolve the issue
[19:51] <DavidH2> how do you get systray back on 12.04
[19:51] <sandking> i just installed ubuntu live cd on an usb drive. I generally want to have a portable ubuntu on my pendrive - is there a better way than installing livecd and each time using "try ubuntu" option/
[19:51] <sandking> ?
[19:51] <gapagos> ActionParsnip, it gives bash: !aptfix: event not found
[19:52] <L3top> gapagos: and create a new sources.list with http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ would be the direction I went...
[19:52] <sandking> [like to have ubuntu installed way that it will automatically boot into os?]
[19:52] <LjL> gapagos: you don't need to type !aptfix. that's just a trigger for ubottu
[19:52] <DavidH2> the  rename didnt wokr
[19:52] <LjL> gapagos: ubottu told you what to type after !aptfix was given.
[19:52] <Mischinka> Will Ubuntu run well on an old pc?
[19:52] <L3top> !aptfix | no gapagos this is the fix here
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: read what ubottu said
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: the bang is to trigger ubottu to say something
[19:53] <gapagos> ah I see
[19:53] <gapagos> ok i killed the process
[19:53] <dlentz> sandking, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:54] <sandking> dlentz, thx
[19:54] <gapagos> ok so when I try to install nvidia drivers again here's what I get:
[19:54] <gapagos> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nvidia-current : Depends: dkms but it is not installable                   Depends: patch but it 
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: then retry, the packages were held by that process
[19:54] <gapagos> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nvidia-current : Depends: dkms but it is not installable                   Depends: patch but it is not installable                   Recommends: nvidia-settings but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:55] <gapagos> what now
[19:55] <L3top> gapagos: again... replace your sources.list with http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ what you generate at that website... run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade  and THEN try and install your drivers... Something is wrong
[19:56] <L3top> gapagos: the sources.list file exists at /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: did you add any PPAs to get the driver>?
[19:56] <i7c> mhm is there a good stand-alone run dialog in the packages?
[19:56] <AcidRain2012> where is the current set ubuntu desktop background stored at?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> i7c: gmrum
[19:56] <stef1a> i'm using 12.04 with Unity 2D on an HP ProBook 4545s laptop, and there is no brightness slider in the brightness control in system settings. Pressing fn + f2/f3 does nothing. i have tried editing the grub config file and using xrandr, but nothing changes the actual backlight brightness.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> !info gmrun
[19:56] <i7c> thx ActionParsnip
[19:56] <AcidRain2012> this is very important to me, cause i made a dope ass background and now i cant find a copy of it
[19:57] <gapagos> ActionParsnip, I don't even know what PAs are
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: PPA, a 3rd party source for packages
[19:57] <gapagos> L3top, it asks me which updates, repos, etc I want, I have no idea what to select
[19:57] <wawowe> AcidRain2012: /usr/share/backgrounds
[19:57] <gapagos> ActionParsnip, no this is a fresh ubuntu install
[19:58] <AcidRain2012> wawowe: my current background isnt in that folder
[19:58] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[19:58] <stef1a> how can i change the backlight brightness of my screen?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: try the boot option: acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: are you fully updated?
[19:59] <AcidRain2012> any other ideas on where this background image is located?
[19:59] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: read above... i've already tried this.
[19:59] <scarface> Why does Update Manager keep telling me "The list of changes is not available yet" for every package?  Been doing this since I installed 12.04.
[19:59] <wawowe> AcidRain2012: if you accidently deleted it add a keybinding for scrot or something and take a screenshot
[19:59] <gapagos> ActionParsnip NO BECAUSE THE FREAKIN APT-GET UPDATE GETS STUCK AT 92%
[19:59] <AcidRain2012> wawowe: thats the only way? :/
[19:59] <OerHeks> AcidRain2012, could be anywere in your /home/
[19:59] <gapagos> god I,ve been in circle for hours
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: I cn read lower case too you know...
[20:00] <Jragon> Hello
[20:00] <wawowe> AcidRain2012: unless you wanna dig through your memory for pngs :P
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008634/
[20:00] <AcidRain2012> lol
[20:00] <DavidH2> anyone know how to reinstall systray in 12.04
[20:00] <stef1a> i have the lines GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:00] <stef1a> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:00] <AcidRain2012> is there a way to take a screenshot wher ei dont have to move all of the icons?
[20:00] <pie_> is it a known but that the lock screen doesnt come on if theres a gnome menu open?
[20:00] <stef1a> in my /etc/default/grub, but it doesn't let me change the brightness
[20:01] <stueng> anyone know if its possible to start/configure vino in xbmcbuntu ?
[20:01] <wawowe> AcidRain2012: put all your icons in a folder and move it to /tmp, then take a screenshot and move it back
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> stueng: xbmcubuntu isn't supported here
[20:02] <stef1a> i'm using 12.04 with Unity 2D on an HP ProBook 4545s laptop, and there is no brightness slider in the brightness control in system settings. Pressing fn + f2/f3 does nothing. i have tried editing the grub config file and using xrandr, but nothing changes the actual backlight brightness. please help. how can i change the backlight brightness?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: did you run:   sudo update-grub   and reboot
[20:03] <DavidH2> btw lo-menubar didnt work. even after reboot
[20:03] <gapagos> fuck this
[20:04] <bazhang> gapagos, no cursing here
[20:04] <Tm_T> gapagos: please watch your language
[20:04] <gapagos> I am wasting my weekend on trying to get a stupid video card to work
[20:04] <gapagos> this is stupid
[20:04] <wawowe> stef1a: is your bios setup running it in battery saving mode?
[20:04] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:04] <stef1a> wawowe: not sure; i will check shortly
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: did you run the commands I gave you ?
[20:04] <gapagos> I tried Ubuntu in 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2012 and it's still as buggy as EVER before
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: did you report the bugs?
[20:05] <gapagos> I'm done with Ubuntu once and for all
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: then don't use it..
[20:05] <gapagos> ActionParsnip I found on google that the bug has already been reported several times
[20:05] <AcidRain2012> wawowe: turns out there is an option in gconf-editor to hide desktop icons ;)
[20:05] <gapagos> months ago
[20:05] <AcidRain2012> apps -> nautilus -> preferences -> show_desktop
[20:05] <reisio> gapagos: no it's worse now :p
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: did you add and say "this affects me too" with some details..
[20:05] <piihb> Anyone play LoL on Linux?
[20:06] <graingert_ecs> is anyone here from the www.ubuntu.com webteam online?
[20:06] <dejahnue> it's alsways a good idea to check hw compatibility before installing
[20:06] <gapagos> actionparnsnip no why should I go through an entire account creation (as I already have 9023780938 online accounts) just to post "me too"
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: you could try the xorg edgers update ppa
[20:07] <L3top> gapagos: http://pastebin.com/sSS1swC0  that is a safe, officially supported ubuntu 1204 sources.list... without source files... which you wouldn't need unless you were compiling your own binaries... at which point you will understand how to generate your own sources.list with what you want.
[20:07] <dejahnue> gapagos, what kind of video card do you have?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:07] <vincenzo> Hi! I have a very annoying problem with the brightness of my ubuntu
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: the pastebin I gave will clean your repos off nicely
[20:08] <wilfried> hello , I'm trying to install aircrack-ng on Ubuntu 12.04 64bits, i can't; I saw on the website that it exist and universe repo is OK in my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008644/
[20:08] <L3top> ActionParsnip: I do not believe that will do anything but confound the situation... there is a dependency problem with the current mirror list they have.
[20:08] <gapagos> ActionParsnip ok it's my last attempt before I just restore windows MBR
[20:08] <dejahnue> gapagos, there's two different nvidia drivers
[20:09] <vincenzo> it doesn't keep the brightness settings
[20:09] <shaneo> hi guys i was trying to update to the latest kernel and received this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008646/. Any suggestions?
[20:09] <vincenzo> every time i reboot and every time i leave my laptop for a while
[20:09] <L3top> gapagos: I strongly recommend replacing your current sources.list with the one I generated for you... sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade  then try and install your nvidia driver.
[20:09] <vincenzo> without using it
[20:09] <stueng> anyone know how to get support for xbmcbuntu ?
[20:10] <stueng> ActionParsnip: I am running Ubuntu Server 12.04 btw, not xbmcbuntu... but the problem I have will apply to xbmcbuntu users specifically
[20:10] <ikonia> stueng: do they have their own channel ?
[20:10] <stueng> appears now
[20:10] <stueng> not*
[20:10] <vincenzo> when i move the mouse pointer or i try to do something
[20:10] <L3top> ActionParsnip: dejahnue, they cannot even get through an update, or installing drivers without dependency problems. I believe that the best course of action is a fresh sources.list, update upgrade and install
[20:10] <guntbert> !enter | vincenzo
[20:10] <shaneo> mainly concerned as this is related to my wifi drivers i believe
[20:10] <gapagos> Actionparsnip, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current still gives me the SAME error
[20:10] <vincenzo> the display brightness change to the max value
[20:11] <Darael> stueng: XBMCbuntu appears to be an XBMC project.  Try their channel?  (assuming they have one)
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: did you run the command list I gave earlier...
[20:11] <dejahnue> clean reinstalls can work wonders, if you have nothing important ondisk to lose
[20:11] <gapagos> Yes
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> dejahnue: or have good backups :)
[20:12] <vincenzo> anyone can help me?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> vincenzo: what make and model system?
[20:13] <Darael> stueng: Both #xbmc and #xbmc-linux are probably worth a try, if th'art still looking.
[20:14] <L3top> gapagos: last time... use the sources.list I created for you, replacing /etc/apt/sources.list  (back it up if you want to first with a mv), rm /var/apt/lists/lock; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates  (you can leave off the updates if you want, but it is a better driver). You do not need to add a PPA to get a driver that you have dependency issues trying to get from the repo.
[20:14] <stueng> thanks I have asked in the xbmc channel
[20:15] <dejahnue> gapagosgapagos, many's the time I've spent more than a week sorting out windows driver problems, so if you only spend a weekend on ubuntu you aren't doing too badly
[20:15] <L3top> gapagos: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock    sorry
[20:15] <gapagos> L3top too late man... I'm really done with Ubuntu.... I've tried over the years and have waited for it to get better
[20:15] <gapagos> I remember when I was actually really encouraged by the future of Ubuntu
[20:16] <L3top> Good luck then.
[20:16] <dejahnue> gapagos, at least try some other linux distro, not (shudder shudder) windows
[20:17] <gapagos> I even made this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z9Lplhve8U
[20:17] <gapagos> this was in 2007 when I actually enjoyed ubuntu
[20:17] <ikonia> gapagos: try to keep that stuff out of this channel please
[20:17] <gapagos> since then, stability / compability has gone downhill downhill downhill
[20:17] <ikonia> gapagos: it's a support channel.
[20:18] <gapagos> Linux was a fine project 5 years, ago, it's dead now
[20:18] <ikonia> gapagos: please stop
[20:18] <dejahnue> gapagos, are you still using the same hardware you were in 2007 when ubuntu was running well for you?
[20:18] <ikonia> gapagos: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support discussion, please try to keep to that
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: you do realize this is just one distro, why not try another..
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> dejahnue: I am :)
[20:18] <L3top> gapagos: I gave you the solution. This is not the place to voice grievances because you do not wish to apply it.
[20:19] <gapagos> ActionParnsnip, I tried mandrake, fedora and knoppix at the time they worked even less
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: wow mandrake, old school. Like it :)
[20:19] <ikonia> guys, gapagos can use what he wants, lets dump this, pleae.
[20:19] <matelot> Q: what does <primary> mean in Compiz ?
[20:19] <gapagos> I'm not using the same hardware,  but almost: same manufacturing companies, and my hardware has been released for 2 or 3 years it's not recent
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> matelot: in what sense?
[20:20] <matelot> ActionParsnip:  in keybinding
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> gapagos: if you don't like it, don't use it. Ranting here does noting
[20:20] <dejahnue> gapagos, there's you answer, revert back exactly to your 2007 hw and you should be fine
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> matelot: probably so you can assign 2 keys to the action...
[20:21] <gapagos> dejahnue, it's been donnated
[20:21] <stueng> vino is what provides "desktop sharing" right ?
[20:21] <matelot> ActionParsnip: http://i.imgur.com/qmFMa.png
[20:21] <reisio> stueng: basically
[20:21] <reisio> stueng: it's a VNC frontend, and that's what VNC does
[20:22] <stueng> reisio: ok.. so I have a ubuntu server build with xorg  installed but I do not have a dektop environment. I am struggling to understand how I can turn on desktop sharing
[20:22] <ikonia> stueng: you can't share a desktop you don't have
[20:22] <ceti331_> x server sharing?
[20:23] <ceti331_> x server without desktop environment ?
[20:23] <ceti331_> raw windows
[20:23] <stueng> yeah
[20:23] <stueng> I want to share the window
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> matelot: ahh, sounds like the mouse button to click with
[20:23] <stueng> I run "xserver xbmc" to launch XBMC
[20:23] <ikonia> stueng: doesn't work like that, you share a desktop (or at last manage the sharing via a desktop)
[20:23] <ceti331_> i think desktop sharing would work at that raw level
[20:23] <ikonia> stueng: the individual X windows are managed by the window manager,
[20:24] <ceti331_> its a protocol for bitmaps being viewed across the network
[20:24] <gapagos> bye and thanks for all your help
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> stueng: its not supported here
[20:24] <piihb> Anyone play LoL on Linux?
[20:24] <ceti331_> it doesn't care about the desktop environment - only the fact its a screen of bitmaps
[20:24] <reisio> stueng: you'd need a whole desktop to make it "worth" more than just ssh'ing
[20:24] <stueng> ActionParsnip: ubuntu server is supported here surely?
[20:24] <reisio> piihb: what's that/
[20:24] <ikonia> ceti331_: it will....but you need a desktop to share
[20:24] <stueng> reisio: basically, I want to send keyboard strokes accross the VNC protocol
[20:24] <ceti331_> why .. its just images surely
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> stueng: I though you were having issue with xbmcubuntu?
[20:25] <mr0wl> hey all
[20:25] <ceti331_> i dont know the details but this interests me,
[20:25] <mr0wl> i was wondering, how do i manually set the DPI in Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:25] <mr0wl> do i have to generate an xorg.conf?
[20:25] <piihb> reisio: It's a game. You can only download the Windows version. I want to know if anyone plays on Linux and if they do, how they do it - WINE or what?
[20:25] <stueng> ActionParsnip: I run ubuntu server but hte issue I am having would effect xbmcbuntu users  as well
[20:25] <ceti331_> I've settled on using synergy but i was looking for ways of using more screen real-estate from a laptop
[20:25] <Darael> stueng: Most people don't try to run a desktop on their server!  For a media-server, something like Myth, which is designed to have frontend and backend, would surely be better?
[20:25] <mr0wl> or should I try to use xrandr?
[20:26] <ceti331_> I've seen youtube videos where someone explains how to use low level x-windows on a server without desktop install
[20:26] <stueng> the reason I  chose ubuntu server is because I didnt want all the bloat that comes with desktop
[20:26] <ceti331_> e.g. they used 'xterm' with command line options to place it in the corners of the screen
[20:26] <stueng> I have managed to get xbmc running with only xorg and lightdm installed
[20:26] <stueng> its really quick
[20:26] <ceti331_> i can EASILY see that being useful, and more useful than just a raw console. e.g: you can have a few columns of text on a widescreen monitor
[20:26] <stueng> but now I need to send keyboard strokes to it, using the VNC protocol
[20:27] <ceti331_> have you tried using synergy
[20:27] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: Hello.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: hi
[20:27] <ceti331_> i'm using synergy between mac, linux, windows
[20:27] <reisio> piihb: which game? A name like 'lol' will make it impossible to find
[20:27] <ceti331_> its fun
[20:27] <dejahnue> stueng, not every DE is bloated
[20:27] <piihb> reisio: .... google lol
[20:27] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: I've now tried with a different GPU, but still no luck. I'm really not at all sure what to do.
[20:27] <reisio> piihb: good luck
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> stueng: why not use the web interface, there is a sweet app for android and iphone to control it
[20:27] <Darael> stueng: I see.  Although a minimal install (from mini.iso or the alternate CD) would have done a better job of that, 'cos you've almost certainly got some things you're not using from the default server install.  I realise, though, that this isn't sorting what you're after.
[20:27] <ceti331_> Wanting to run graphics without desktop environment is perfectly reasonable
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: ask the channel like everyone else. i have NO idea what you are on about
[20:28] <stueng> Darael: problem with minimal install is I couldnt get it to boot from USB
[20:28] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: Don't worry, I was talking to you earlier.
[20:28] <piihb> reisio: The game is the first returned item in a Google search lol.
[20:28] <stueng> ActionParsnip: yeah the http interface works fine atm, its just that hipporemote requires the vnc protocol
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: I've drank and slept since then. I don't go about remembering everyone I talk to and every issue I discuss
[20:28] <reisio> piihb: is that really easier to type for you than "it's called league of legends"?
[20:29] <reisio> piihb: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10436 follow the instructions
[20:29] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: Okay
[20:29] <dejahnue> stueng, some DEs are very sparse
[20:29] <piihb> reisio: No, I just wanted you to know that it wouldn't be impossible to find :P
[20:29] <stueng> dejahnue: do you know which is the most sparse?
[20:29] <dejahnue> fluxbox maybe?
[20:29] <ceti331_> Window Manager, or Desktop environment? Fluxbox is a minimal Window Manager
[20:30] <dejahnue> or maybe windowmaker
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> +1 for fluxbox (not a DE, nor does it need one :))
[20:30] <ceti331_> agree +1 for fluxbox
[20:30] <reisio> piihb: impossibility was never the issue, wasting my time was
[20:30] <stueng> I can try that, it just seems unfortunate to have to install an entire DE just to enable "desktop sharing"
[20:31] <ceti331_> Fluxbox is not an entire DE. it is just titlebars to move windows around, and multiple desktops. handy shortcuts like mousewheel desktop switching
[20:31] <stueng> ok ill give that a go
[20:31] <ceti331_> it has a right click launcher menu too, and a window list title bar "hard coded" inside it, not a seperate dock-applicatiion
[20:31] <ceti331_> others are even simpler
[20:31] <ceti331_> WM2 is one of the simplest around
[20:32] <ceti331_> but a bit odd
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> flwm is super light
[20:32] <stueng> ok thanks, I better pay attention to whatever the gf is talking about  for a bit then ill try it :P
[20:33] <Jragon> When I try and boot up the Ubuntu live CD it gets stuck on the loading dots. When I click escape there is an error message that keeps popping up. udevb[175]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb1'. When I boot windows it gets to a blank screen with the cursor, then it reboots and tries again. I have also tried with Linux Mint 11, with Mint 11 it just goes to a black screen then resets. I have now tried with two GPUs and 4 
[20:33] <Jragon> I have also tried resetting the jumper, but it dun work.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[20:34] <Jragon> I checked the MD5 sum, and put it onto a USB as I don't have a cd drive.
[20:35] <prixon`> hello
[20:35] <prixon`> reisio, are you still here?
[20:35] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[20:35] <reisio> prixon`: ?
[20:35] <prixon`> s there a way to make super+D minimize all windows in 12.04 instead of ctrl+super+d?
[20:35] <reisio> yes of course
[20:35] <barcode> hi all, is there any software like macromedia dreamweaver on ubuntu
[20:36] <reisio> prixon`: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ubuntu%22%20%22win%2Bd%22%20show%20hide%20desktop
[20:36] <bazhang> !html | barcode
[20:36] <reisio> barcode: the WYSIWYG part?
[20:37] <reisio> http://w3fools.com/
[20:37] <barcode> yes I need WYSIWYG
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: could set it as a shortcut in CCSM, however if you have a lot of apps in the unity bar, the one assigned to D will run every time
[20:37] <XiRoN> hi
[20:37] <barcode> because netbeans not suitable for me
[20:37] <XiRoN> How do I initialise a SQLite database in ubuntu?
[20:37] <barcode> ok thhank
[20:37] <reisio> barcode: ubottu's msg pretty much sums up the state of affairs
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> !sql
[20:38] <dejahnue> q: there's supposed to be a cpu-temperature monitoring package, what was it called (I can't remember)
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: install mysql :)
[20:38] <reisio> barcode: probably the same as on any other distro: /join #sqlite
[20:38] <XiRoN> Nope I need SQLite
[20:38] <XiRoN> I need to initialise the database but dont know how
[20:39] <reisio> XiRoN: you could read the man page, or talk to #sqlite
[20:39] <vincenzo> ActionParsnip: i'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[20:39] <vincenzo> with an Asus K53SJ
[20:39] <Jragon> BTW: I'm using the GT440 GPU
[20:39] <prixon`> ActionParsnip, what do you mean "the one assigned to D"?
[20:40] <vincenzo> i've read around the web that is a common problem of ubuntu with laptops
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: if you hold SuperL a bit, you will see characters on the apps, if you have more than 9, it will use letters, one wil be named 'D' if you have a lot
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Jragon: have you tested your RAM
[20:41] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: I have. It works in my old desktop.
[20:41] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[20:42] <prixon`> ohh, got you ActionParsnip. although some apps don't have a super+letter shortcut like system monitor or software  center
[20:42] <barcode> Kompozer is nice
[20:42] <barcode> thanks all
[20:43] <prixon`> so I have to install CCSM..? no other way around it?
[20:44] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to jump to a given terminal tab with a keystroke?
[20:45] <L3top> Ctrl Alt T  arooni-mobile
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: afaik, yes
[20:45] <L3top> I think...
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: You can use ctrl+alt+PgUp/Dn I think
[20:46] <prixon`> ok. O
[20:46] <reisio> arooni-mobile: ALT+# in a lot of GUI terms
[20:46] <prixon`> I'm installing ccsm. btw, why do I get this message: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[20:46] <prixon`>   compiz-plugins python-central
[20:46] <Jragon> ActionParsnip: Okay I just tried a different ram kit. Still nothing :S
[20:46] <prixon`> why aren't they authenticated?
[20:46] <reisio> arooni-mobile: if you were using 'screen' you could use CTRL+a, ", or CTRL+a, n
[20:47] <mortal1> has anyone ever mounted an encrypted drive remotely?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   sudo apt-get udpate
[20:47] <mortal1> I'm having a real problem accessing my old hd that has 10.04 on it
[20:50] <dejahnue> mortal1, what exact file system did it have?
[20:50] <mortal1> ext3
[20:50] <prixon`> ActionParsnip, here: http://pastebin.com/RhhWXvbz
[20:51] <dejahnue> ext3 can get corrupted pretty easy
[20:51] <mortal1> dejahnue: I can still boot from it
[20:51] <mortal1> i mean it's fine
[20:51] <barcode> hello bro, How to integrated Iphone with ubuntu especially on Music :?
[20:52] <dejahnue> what "mount" cmd line(s) have you tried?
[20:52] <reisio> barcode: pretty sure everything is installed by default for that
[20:52] <reisio> barcode: what seems to be the trouble?
[20:53] <barcode> hi reisio, actually software like itunes
[20:53] <Xunie> So I upgraded to 12.04 LTS a few days ago and now XFCE shows generic icons for almost everything and gedit's interface is mostly black. wtfuuu??
[20:53] <mortal1> I followed this guide: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/solved-howto-mount-an-external-encrypted-luks-volume-under-linux/
[20:53] <barcode> so i can backup or sync all the data
[20:54] <barcode> but, for now i try to synch all music on my dekstop to my phone ? have you try reisio?
[20:54] <dejahnue> oh it's encrypted. that's not so straightforward
[20:54] <mortal1> dejahnue: yeah tell me about it <facepalm/>
[20:55] <mortal1> I knew this was going to be complicated when I went to move to another lts
[20:55] <streulma> I have configured Windows on my notebook now
[20:55] <streulma> my question is
[20:55] <streulma> Should I install Ubuntu with wubi installer ?
[20:55] <streulma> or real dualboot
[20:55] <reisio> streulma: real
[20:56] <reisio> streulma: or better: pick one OS :p
[20:56] <dejahnue> encryption was after all created to foil people from just mounting someone else's harddrives
[20:56] <streulma> I must have Windows for some programs
[20:56] <streulma> the laptop is an ol done
[20:56] <reisio> streulma: which?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> streulma: I'd resize the NTFS and install a real install.
[20:57] <streulma> on my work notebook I have wubi
[20:57] <prixon`> where in ccsm can I change the minimize all to super+d?
[20:57] <streulma> it's not supported to install Ubuntu on the workpc :p
[20:58] <reisio> prixon`: somewhere (aren't GUIs fun!)
[20:58] <reisio> prixon`: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ubuntu%22%20%22win%2Bd%22%20show%20hide%20desktop
[20:58] <reisio> second time
[20:58] <streulma> wubi was the best thing to do
[20:59] <streulma> ok real dualboot then
[20:59] <streulma> but it prefers Grub as the main bootloader ?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: you see those long hex codes at the bottom of your paste
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: use those codes on the end of this command: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com CODE-HERE-DUDE
[21:01] <prixon`> ActionParsnip, the PPAs that I added? they don't relate to the packages I installed
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: you still need to import the keys or the package system will moan#
[21:03] <prixon`> ActionParsnip, I tried it, and that didn't fix the key error
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: do the PPAs they relate to support Precise?
[21:03] <prixon`> yes, they can support Precise
[21:04] <prixon`> it says: gpg: requesting key 3ACC3965 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:04] <prixon`> gpg: key 3ACC3965: "Launchpad lffl" not changed
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: no Precise there dude: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/
[21:09] <ufrgs> hey guys, if I have a operational system programming doubt is there a specific channel to go?
[21:10] <prixon`> weird! I usually check them!
[21:11] <dejahnue> what kind of doubt?
[21:12] <prixon`> btw, CCSM>general options> key binding> show desktop
[21:13] <ufrgs> dejahnue, I want to figure if its possible to make a parent process hold for a chiel process to finish executing...
[21:13] <eccr-phoenix> what kernel version does 12.04 use?
[21:13] <xangua> !info linux | eccr-phoenix
[21:14] <prixon`> is there a shortcut for copy/paste in terminal? as ctrl+c ctrl+v don't function. so does ctrl+p
[21:14] <dejahnue> ufrgs, there might be a channel for general linux programming, but it wouldn't be ubuntu-specific
[21:14] <Cigue> Hey guys, I'm trying to set the proxy through the command line
[21:14] <Cigue> SOCKS host, more precisely
[21:14] <Cigue> how do?
[21:14] <eccr-phoenix> 'kay thanks.
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> prixon`, those are the keys.:)
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> ctrl+c ctrl+v at least on my setup
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: ctrl+shift+c/v
[21:15] <xangua> prixon`: contro+shift+c control+shift+v
[21:15] <xangua> wilee-nilee: prixon`you can change the setup in gnome terminal preferences
[21:16] <xangua> preferences-keyword combination
[21:18] <Darael> prixon`: As a little background, the reason is that those key combinations are in fact traditionally used for other things in the terminal.  Ctl+C, for example, is the interrupt key, and will (as the name suggests) interrupt most things if you press it while they're running in the active terminal window.
[21:19] <reisio> pfft
[21:19] <reisio> the background is they don't want to refer to the 'Windows key' in their docs
[21:20] <reisio> they should just refer to it as meta and get over themselves
[21:20] <reisio> for better or worse (better obviously) keyboards have a key there now instead of a useless empty space
[21:21] <kszonek_> quick question: i have ssh session running, any way to put running program into screen session? I need to reboot my desktop and dont want to stop ongoing simulation on the server (forgot to start it inside of screen)
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> kszonek_: use nohup
[21:21] <casper_>  has joined #ubuntu
[21:21] <guntbert> kszonek_: not after the fact (as far as I know)
[21:22] <kszonek_> yea, i thought so
[21:22] <Boohbah> casper_: welcome
[21:22] <kszonek_> nohup needs to be done used before too
[21:22] <casper_> welcome
[21:22] <guntbert> casper_:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:26] <prixon`> wilee-nilee, so why doesn't it work for me?
[21:27] <Brewster> Hi guys I need some help. I put my story in a pastebin so everyone can see it and so I can repeat it if anyone asks.
[21:27] <Brewster> http://pastebin.com/rCpZej3j <- there is the link
[21:28] <guntbert> !here | Brewster
[21:28] <OerHeks> prixon`, copy in terminal : klik mouse-wheel
[21:29] <Brewster> guntbert: you want me to use ubu paste instead?
[21:29] <prixon`> OerHeks, not working for me :( is there a keyboard shortcut?
[21:29] <Brewster> basically I want to copy windows to another drive
[21:29] <Brewster> then install ubuntu right next to it
[21:29] <xangua> (16:15:18) ActionParsnip: prixon`: ctrl+shift+c/v
[21:29] <daze> partition the big drive, install windows, install ubuntu, copy data somehow :]
[21:29] <guntbert> Brewster: no, I wanted you to tell us something about your problem :-)
[21:30] <Brewster> oh ok
[21:30] <Brewster> well here's my problem
[21:30] <Brewster> I don't have a windows install disk
[21:30] <Brewster> the only copy I have is already on the hard drive
[21:31] <daze> well, you can download the install iso and burn it
[21:31] <guntbert> Brewster: that looks like windows support - which we don't/cannot do here
[21:31] <Brewster> alright
[21:31] <Brewster> well thanks anyway
[21:31] <daze> http://www.mydigitallife.info/download-windows-7-iso-official-32-bit-and-64-bit-direct-download-links/
[21:31] <master> !samba
[21:31] <Brewster> I was just hoping someone could point me to some drive cloning utility
[21:32] <Brewster> daze is that copy good?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Brewster: clonezilla
[21:32] <guntbert> daze: don't post such links here
[21:32] <daze> these are legal, if you have the serial number (should be a sticker on your laptop)
[21:32] <daze> :]
[21:32] <Brewster> I really don't want another worm
[21:32] <Brewster> oh right
[21:32] <daze> those are links to ms sites, I beleive
[21:32] <Brewster> I do have the serial
[21:32] <Brewster> sweet
[21:32] <Brewster> thanks daze
[21:32] <prixon`> ohh and now even the mouse wheel click works
[21:33] <reisio> booya
[21:33] <prixon`> thanks OerHeks ActionParsnip  and xangua
[21:33] <prixon`> is there a way to tweak those shortcuts as well?
[21:34] <xangua> (16:15:47) xangua: wilee-nilee: prixon`you can change the setup in gnome terminal preferences
[21:34] <xangua> (16:16:23) xangua: preferences-keyword combination
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: which shortcuts?
[21:36] <booi> after an update, i cannot play music on my iphone with rhythmbox on 12.04 anymore. anybody have any ideas?
[21:38] <Adonis> x
[21:38] <prixon`> ActionParsnip, shortcuts for copy/paste in terminal
[21:38] <Adonis> can anyone help me, i cant connect irc thru ubuntu vmware...
[21:39] <fran> Olaaaaaa
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: can you connect to the web ok?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> prixon`: not sure there dude, sorry
[21:39] <Adonis> ActionParsnip yes
[21:39] <prixon`> ok
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: what happens when you try to connect?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: what clients have you tried?
[21:39] <prixon`> and can anyone help me understand why the hdaps isn't working on my thinkpad?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: can you ping the IRC server?
[21:40] <Adonis> ActionParsnip it just times out and tries next server, then does same
[21:40] <Adonis> Im using irc on windows 7 now fine, but when i open ubuntu no go!
[21:41] <_DomY-Dom> Hello again, I've just installed iRedMail on my dedicated server but my roundcube seems not to be working  http://sperec.fr/mail/ here is the prompt throughout the installation http://paste.pound-python.org/show/22527/, can anyone help ?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> Adonis, no go as in internet or what?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: doesn't answer my questions....
[21:42] <Adonis> I can access the internet... I have tcp connection
[21:42] <Adonis> ont irc doesnt connect
[21:42] <Adonis> can i ping by using ping irc.ubuntu.com/8001 ???
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: you just ping irc.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <Adonis> ok one sec
[21:42] <graingert_ecs> soooo
[21:43] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: you can't ping a port
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: it's also irc.ubuntu.com:8001
[21:43] <graingert_ecs> ping is ICMP a different protocol
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: try connecting to irc.freenode.net:6667
[21:43] <Adonis> it said 100% packet loss
[21:43] <Adonis> ok
[21:43] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: erm what's in your etc hosts
[21:43] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: what's your geographical location
[21:44] <graingert_ecs> (are you in china)
[21:44] <Adonis> nope
[21:44] <Adonis> Aus
[21:44] <graingert_ecs> and do you want someone to DCC you a copy of TOR  ?
[21:44] <Adonis> i have tor but not using it atm
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: do you use a proxy for web access?
[21:44] <Adonis> nope
[21:44] <Adonis> cant connect to feenode either
[21:44] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: so erm what sites can you connect to
[21:44] <graingert_ecs> and how are you talking to us?
[21:44] <Adonis> nothing through itc...
[21:45] <graingert_ecs> itc?
[21:45] <Adonis> irc on windows 7 workd
[21:45] <Adonis> s
[21:45] <Adonis> *irc
[21:45] <graingert_ecs> but not on linux?
[21:45] <Adonis> correct
[21:45] <graingert_ecs> are you on a home router?
[21:45] <Adonis> yes
[21:45] <graingert_ecs> hmm
[21:45] <graingert_ecs> are you behind NAT?
[21:45] <Adonis> yes
[21:45] <guntbert> !enter | Adonis
[21:45] <wawowe> ping 93.152.160.101
[21:45] <graingert_ecs> ah do you have broken V6?
[21:46] <Adonis> no
[21:46] <graingert_ecs> guntbert: chillax, i'm trying to troubleshoot
[21:46] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: hurmmm...
[21:46] <Adonis> could it be a firewall issue with linux?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: can the system ping 8.8.8.8?
[21:46] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: does it still happen on a liveCD?
[21:46] <Adonis> yes i can system ping 8.8.8.8
[21:46] <Adonis> yes
[21:47] <wawowe> Adonis: what about 93.152.160.101
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: cool, ok try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: then retry connecting to IRC
[21:48]  * ActionParsnip plays a drumroll
[21:48] <Adonis> brb
[21:49] <graingert_ecs> ActionParsnip: he should really set that through network manager
[21:49] <n0sq> i tried to install the i386 version of 12.04 onto a dell laptop (pentium-m) but i keep getting an error message of an incorrect cpu
[21:49] <Adonis> yes that worked!!!!
[21:49] <Eagleman> Hello, i've deleted my /etc/bacula and removed bacula, in the hope to get the config files back after a reinstall, but that didnt worked out. is there a way to get them back?
[21:49] <Adonis> what does that do?
[21:49] <graingert_ecs> Adonis: can you restore /etc/resolv.conf
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> graingert_ecs: its cheap and easy for now, the file is only generated when the connection becomes active
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Adonis: yep, your DNS servers your system gets via DHCP are junk
[21:50] <graingert_ecs> ActionParsnip: ah okay so reseating the ethernet will reset that file?
[21:50] <Adonis2> hello
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> graingert_ecs: indeed :)
[21:50] <graingert_ecs> Adonis2: reseat your ethernet connecte
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Adonis2: howdy
[21:50] <graingert_ecs> r
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Adonis2: get fully updated, should help
[21:50] <graingert_ecs> Adonis2: and give us that file "/etc/resolv.conf"
[21:50] <graingert_ecs> reseat == unplug and plug in
[21:51] <Adonis2> how to i give u that file?
[21:51] <graingert_ecs> pastebin?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> i love easy to remember DNS addresses
[21:51] <graingert_ecs> cat filename
[21:51] <graingert_ecs> is there a cli pastebin tool?
[21:51] <wawowe> pastebinit
[21:52] <wawowe> apt-get install pastebinit
[21:52] <Adonis2> ok do it now...
[21:52] <guntbert> !pastebinit | graingert_ecs
[21:52] <graingert_ecs>  cool
[21:52] <graingert_ecs> Adonis2: do what ?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf
[21:52] <Adonis2> its only got 8.8.8.8 in it???
[21:53] <graingert_ecs> Adonis2: did you reseat your ethernet cable?
[21:53] <Adonis2> im on wireless
[21:53] <graingert_ecs> okay power down your wifi
[21:53] <graingert_ecs> then power it back up again using the hardware switch on your laptop
[21:53] <wawowe> what's the point of reseting it?
[21:53] <ozpy> Hi guys. I need to modify my grub 2... I run "gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom" but I can't modify it not even in administrator mode on.
[21:53] <graingert_ecs> or reseat the dongle
[21:53] <Eagleman> Hello, i've deleted my /etc/bacula and removed bacula, in the hope to get the config files back after a reinstall, but that didnt worked out. is there a way to get them back ( the default ones )?
[21:54] <graingert_ecs> Eagleman: sudo apt-get remove --purge bacula ?
[21:54] <graingert_ecs> then install it?
[21:54] <graingert_ecs> wawowe: it will restore his resolv.conf and we can come up with a longterm fix
[21:54] <TPBEurope> Ubuntu doesn't let me change the resolution to a different aspect ratio. How do I fix that?
[21:54] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope: what is your graphics card?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Adonis2: get fully updated, there may be an updated to network manager
[21:55] <Eagleman> graingert_ecs doesnt work
[21:55] <ozpy> Hello. I need to modify my grub 2... I run "gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom" but I can't modify & save  it not even in administrator mode on.
[21:55] <graingert_ecs> Eagleman: really hmm
[21:55] <wawowe> graingert_ecs: service networking restart would too
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> ozpy: try:  gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[21:55] <graingert_ecs> wawowe: reseating requires less sudo commands
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> ozpy: or:  sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[21:55] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope: ?
[21:55] <master> Eagleman: what the problem with your bacula
[21:55] <Eagleman> the only thing that could work is to reinstall ubuntu and put another 7 hours of time in it, thats a no go
[21:56] <graingert_ecs> one sec
[21:56] <Eagleman> it gave an error so i deleted my /etc/bacula folder
[21:56] <Eagleman> and after a reinstall it didnt came back
[21:56] <Adonis2> as in update ubuntu?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Adonis2: yeah
[21:56] <TPBEurope2> I'm using the nvidia drivers if that helps.
[21:56] <wawowe> as far as making it last could add it to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[21:56] <OerHeks> Eagleman, Bacula configuration files are located in the /etc/bacula directory, so they are gone
[21:56] <Adonis2> ActionParsnip, Ok
[21:56] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: you'll need to use the nvidia-settings tool
[21:56] <Eagleman> i know, but i want to get the default ones back
[21:56] <ozpy> actionparsnip: thanks man. Let me try it
[21:57] <Eagleman> but i have no idea how
[21:57] <TPBEurope2> It still doesn't let me do it. :/
[21:57] <arooni-mobile> hey folks; trying to make god (ruby) start: using http://openmonkey.com/blog/2008/05/27/god-init-script-for-debian-ubuntu-systems/ .. i did; but nothings happening
[21:57] <master> Eagleman: lol, a bit drastic, bacula is a bit bitchy to configure imo, have you tried to after purge remove to user dpkg to reconfigure ?
[21:57] <Eagleman> there wasnt usefull information in those conf files anyway
[21:57] <graingert_ecs> Eagleman: /usr/share/doc/bacula-common/examples/
[21:57] <Eagleman> like dpkg --force-confmiss -i bacula-server_5.2.5-0ubuntu6_all.deb?
[21:58] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, It just offers 5:4 resolutions.
[21:58] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: use nvidia-autoconfigure
[21:58] <RockDawg> Linux newb having a problem with networking.
[21:58] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: pick "Resolution: Auto"
[21:58] <RockDawg> Using 11.04
[21:58] <TPBEurope2> command not found
[21:59] <graingert_ecs> RockDawg: upgrade to ubuntu 12.04
[21:59] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: sorry that's the option in the metamode, just use nvidia-settings and choose "Auto" as your rez
[21:59] <guntbert> !details | RockDawg
[21:59] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: please screenshot and imgur this screen
[22:00] <streulma> +++++++++++++++++
[22:00] <guntbert> graingert_ecs: don't suggest updating without any knowledge about the problem
[22:00] <graingert_ecs> guntbert: I do know the problem
[22:00] <nacnud> hi..does anyone know of a way that I can make grep case insensitive by default? A ".ini" file or maybe an environment variable? Thanks.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> RockDawg: though about using a newer release?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> nacnud: grep -i    will make it (i)nsensitive to case
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> nacnud: you could add the switch to the grep alias already in ~/.bashrc
[22:01] <guntbert> graingert_ecs: you surprise me :) because he only said two sentences
[22:01] <nacnud> ActionParsnip...thanks for that. I found that one, but I was really looking to make -i the defaul situation. Is the best way to just createa BASH alias?
[22:02] <wawowe> nacnud: yes
[22:02] <nacnud> Okay, that's a job for the morning. I was hoping there'd be a .grep_rc file or something. Fair enough. Cheers for your help.
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> you make an alias, then you get messed up when you go to a differnt system that dosent have the same alias. ;)
[22:03] <c0n> hello, i've got a problem with /usr/share/menu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008797/
[22:03] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: http://i.imgur.com/GVQpd.png
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> nacnud: sure, there is already an alias, just add the extra switch in the quotes
[22:03] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, It'll go blank since it will configure the wrong res.
[22:03] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: auto should not "go blank"
[22:03] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: and are you getting any EDID?
[22:03] <TPBEurope2> It does, though.
[22:03] <wawowe> nacnud: echo "alias grep='grep -i'" > ~/.bashrc; source ~/.bashrc
[22:03] <RockDawg> Running 11.04 browsing the local network is unreliable.  Changing /etc/nsswitch.conf so that wins is before dns on the hosts: line works, but then internet browsing is really slow.  Moving dns ahead of wins on that line fixes internet problem but my LAN problems then return.  How do I satisfy both?
[22:03] <graingert_ecs> when on auto?
[22:03] <TPBEurope2> EDID?
[22:04] <wawowe> nacnud: don't do that actually
[22:04] <wawowe> nacnud: mistake*
[22:04] <nacnud> Dr_Willis....aye...embrace and extend...I'll take my chances...thanks. Cheers folks. Peace.
[22:04] <wawowe> nacnud: echo "alias grep='grep -i'" >> ~/.bashrc; source ~/.bashrc
[22:04] <nacnud> wawowe..does it not need >> ?
[22:04] <TPBEurope2> Can I just set it manually?
[22:04] <nacnud> at least?
[22:04] <nacnud> yeah, the append.
[22:04] <wawowe> nacnud: yea >>
[22:04] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: you can but it will just go blank
[22:04] <RockDawg> I'm on 11.04 because it's Pinguy and I only see a 11.04 version
[22:04] <graingert_ecs> your card may not support it
[22:04] <nacnud> No worries, I'm cool with that. Thank you for your work :) I will sort it out :) Great shout.
[22:04] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, It does.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> nacnud: remember to run:  source ~/.bashrc     to reload it :)
[22:05] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, So does the monitor, it's just that I don't know how to make a custom res in nvidia-settings.
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> now.. how could my networking go down in such a way that i no longer can lookup addresses like google.com, but IRC stays connected here.. and i just somehow restarted networking via the NM applet. and did not get hung up here....
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Been having this 3 times today.
[22:05] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: you can edit the x config before it hits the disk
[22:06] <xunie-laptop`> Installing 12.04 LTS from USB, I've got a separate /home partition that I've selected in the formatting window, now I can't deselect the "Encrypt my home folder" option and 'ubi-usersetup failed with exit code1'.
[22:06] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, Can you explain?
[22:06] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: see where it says show preview?
[22:06] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: got hit by the new resolv -mechanism?
[22:06] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: copy that preview into gedit
[22:06] <xunie-laptop`> I tried entering a new user (so that no such home folder exists for it already) and ubi-usersetup keeps failing. This shit is annoying, any fixes?
[22:06] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: and you'll notice a metamode option     Option         "metamodes" "DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP-1: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0; DFP-0: 1680x1050 +0+0, DFP-1: NULL"
[22:06] <Ajacmac> man, the c++ channel/s is/are dead
[22:07] <nacnud> Right, ActionParsnip; noted. Thanks very much folks. And i learned about the "source" command too. Thanks again. Great. I'll pass along whatever I know. All the best. night, fromthe UK.
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  not sure. seems like after a few hrs or so - dns lookups fail.  nslookup google.com failed, but  i selecxted wireless network 1, in the NM applet and it did 'somthing' and then started working
[22:07] <guntbert> !language | xunie-laptop`
[22:07] <OerHeks> RockDawg, yes, but pinguy is not supported here, AFAIK .. their website is old http://pinguyos.com/  so please download ubuntu 12.04 more fun
[22:07] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, Hold on a sec.
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> hmm. my nameserver in resolv.conf is set to 127.0.0.1
[22:07] <sirknight> hi
[22:07] <RockDawg> New to all this.  I figured since it's based on Ubuntu I could ask here.
[22:08] <TPBEurope2> where is show preview, graingert_ecs?
[22:08] <graingert_ecs> Dr_Willis: lol, go and have a look in network manager
[22:08] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: of course, existing connection will not be bothered by a filed DNS lookup
[22:08] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: click save to x configuration file
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  i restarted networking. :) that should have reset my irc connecton
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> RockDawg: yeah none of the 'Ubuntu based' distros are supported here
[22:08] <TPBEurope2> Okay.
[22:08] <TPBEurope2> I did. I see it now.
[22:08] <graingert_ecs> Dr_Willis: are you adonis?
[22:08] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: correct, dnsmasq is now providing a service
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> I got diffent dns servers set in the network manager applet., then is showing in resolov.conf
[22:09] <ozpy> actionparsnip: how to save it? there
[22:09] <ozpy> s no such option in the menu
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> isent dnsmasq also supposed to help in finding the samba servers on the lan?
[22:09] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: upload it to gist https://gist.github.com/
[22:09] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf will show it is just a link
[22:09] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: and tell me the res you want
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> ozpy: in nano? press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER
[22:09] <graingert_ecs> ozpy: you know you can press tab after typing some part of someones nick
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: didn't know that :)
[22:09] <graingert_ecs> ozpy: this will save typing it all
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  its not showing as a link here.
[22:10] <Dr_Willis>  ls -l res*
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root   48 May 26 12:43 resolv.conf
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> now whats with those permissions....
[22:10] <graingert_ecs> waht
[22:10] <graingert_ecs> do you have some sort of rootkit...?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008806/
[22:10] <EliahKagan> normally a rootkit would *keep* you from seeing that...
[22:10] <RockDawg> I did try Ubuntu 12.04 first and I had the same problem.  Switched to another distro to see if it helped.  It didn't.  How can I fix it if I co back to Ubuntu?
[22:10] <graingert_ecs> ActionParsnip: why is it lrwxrwxrwx
[22:10] <ozpy> actionparsnio: thanks pal. Now keeping the fingers crossed
[22:10] <graingert_ecs> ?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> graingert_ecs: its a link, so it will be 777, the actual access is stored on the file linked to
[22:11] <graingert_ecs> hmm
[22:11] <ozpy> graingert_ecs: thanks pal
[22:11] <graingert_ecs> so you can change the link?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> graingert_ecs: l == link ;)
[22:11] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: so you apparently overwrote it (or maybe it didn't get changed during uppgrade)
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  i did a clean install.. i wonder if i may  have done some tweaking in network manager to fight my wireless a few weeks/month back when the release just came out.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> not using my wireless card any more
[22:12] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, I'd like 1280x768 (5:3); https://gist.github.com/913e5d9531ba73ac1349
[22:12] <graingert_ecs> RockDawg: so what's the issue with networking?
[22:13] <EliahKagan> it's normal for it to look like that, as ActionParsnip says, it's a link, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008809/
[22:13] <graingert_ecs> TPBEurope2: https://gist.github.com/13e9eb972e04ee82cf4f
[22:13] <RockDawg> Running 11.04 browsing the local network is unreliable.  Changing /etc/nsswitch.conf so that wins is before dns on the hosts: line works, but then internet browsing is really slow.  Moving dns ahead of wins on that line fixes internet problem but my LAN problems then return.  How do I satisfy both?
[22:13] <ozpy> ActionParsnip, i was installing Android 4.0 in my laptop. Grub 2 needed to be modified. All ok now
[22:14] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, Okay, where do I save it now?
[22:14] <alankila> android on laptop is possible now?
[22:14] <Eagleman> Since bacula isnt working out, i;m looking for another backup program, all it needs to do is backup my server, exclude some folders, restore using some rescue cd ( like the windows solution )?
[22:14] <RockDawg> Sorry, my last post was for graingert_ecs
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ozpy: nice
[22:14] <OerHeks> alankila sure, try it in Vbox
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> alankila: there are install CDs around :)
[22:14] <ozpy> alankila, yeah http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/how-to-dual-boot-android-x86-and-ubuntu.html
[22:14] <alankila> just curious. Not going to install it anytime soon yet.
[22:15] <ozpy> I hate that Google Currents is not available in Google Chrome Market. So many cool apps
[22:15] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, The X configuration, I mean.
[22:16] <graingert_ecs> my admin has turned off my box remotedly
[22:17] <Cerrdor> well its official
[22:17] <Cerrdor> chrome is almost amazing
[22:18] <graingert_ecs> Cerrdor: it's all about chromium
[22:18] <Cerrdor> yeah
[22:19] <TPBEurope2> graingert_ecs, excuse me, but it's asking for a path for that file.
[22:19] <Cerrdor> just installed it in buntu and now all my desktop bookmarks etc are just here
[22:19] <Cerrdor> pretty nifty
[22:20] <dune> hi, my hp printer does not work. it isnt recognized as usb-device. it should work out of the box. what can i do? i used hp-setup.
[22:20] <TPBEurope2> Does anyone know where the X config file for nvidia is supposed to be saved?
[22:21] <wawowe> TPBEurope2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:21] <Cerrdor> dune, lsusb
[22:21] <Cerrdor> does it show it there?
[22:21] <dune> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:032a Hewlett-Packard
[22:21] <Cerrdor> so its werkin
[22:21] <TPBEurope2> Do I need to restart X or whatever?
[22:21] <wawowe> TPBEurope2: yes
[22:22] <Cerrdor> what does it say when you try to print something?
[22:22] <dune> i cant add it. its not in cups
[22:22] <TPBEurope2> How?
[22:23] <L3top> TPBEurope2: I would reboot. nVidia does a strange battle with nouveau for the frame buffer
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> L3top: could blacklist nouveau ;)
[22:26] <TPBEurope> I have to be doing something wrong about that resolution.
[22:26] <TPBEurope> It still won't show the custom one I set up.
[22:26] <hobbie> has someone expierience with processor context corrupt on ubuntu 11.10
[22:26] <melkor> I'm using gnome-shell, is there a way to make dialogs moveable?
[22:26] <L3top> The nvidia driver does that on install, but it still has hold... that is why the installer cant deal with X active, and requires a reboot. Even modprobing doesn't address it properly... it is really just best to reboot
[22:27] <L3top> ActionParsnip: ^
[22:27] <wawowe> TPBEurope: is the contents in that link the only thing you put in xorg.conf?
[22:27] <TPBEurope> Yeah.
[22:27] <wawowe> TPBEurope: may need a modeline
[22:27] <herpladee> hey guys
[22:27] <TPBEurope> Can you make it work?
[22:28] <L3top> TPBEurope: dropping out of X, and running nvidia-xconfigure will build a proper xorg.conf, then you can add whatever you are trying to do to that.
[22:28] <dune>  GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
[22:28] <dune> when i start hp-setup
[22:28] <dune> error: No devices found on bus: usb
[22:28] <L3top> TPBEurope: what ARE you trying to do btw?
[22:28] <herpladee> i'm sitting here doing absolutely nothing and i had 1.4gb space (i know because it warns me every time i turn on my computer) but now it suddenly gave me another warning that i only have 0.8gb left ... how do i find out what suddenly took up 0.6gb of space on my computer when i'm doing absolutely nothing but browsing wikipedia and using irssi?
[22:28] <TPBEurope> nvidia is going crazy
[22:29] <TPBEurope> It's showing I can run 1440x900 on this monitor.
[22:29] <TPBEurope> Which I can't.
[22:29] <L3top> herpladee: probably in /var/log  something bad is probably dumping a lot of verbose stuff to logs
[22:29] <TPBEurope> But it still applied something and switched the resolution.. What the heck?
[22:29] <L3top> TPBEurope: if you just inserted an xorg.conf you found online, that is not all that surprising
[22:30] <joe42> hey can any body please help me copy a photo into the usr/share/backgrounds folder?
[22:30] <TPBEurope> L3top, there was that option to begin with.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> joe42: gksudo nautilus $HOME
[22:30] <Cerrdor> joe42 open terminal sudo nautilus
[22:30] <L3top> how is this connected to your monitor TPBEurope? What interface?
[22:30] <Cerrdor> ActionParsnip, or that lol
[22:30] <TPBEurope> I have no idea.
[22:31] <herpladee> L3top, can i delete those logs?
[22:31] <wawowe> TPBEurope: you should make your own  xorg.conf with: Xorg -configure
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Corey: gksudo for gui apps dude
[22:31] <L3top> herpladee: they might be helpful figuring out what is going on... but yes.
[22:31] <richard___> where would Wine error messages be logged to?
[22:31] <wawowe> TPBEurope: then cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:31] <TPBEurope> This is insane. How the hell is it displaying this resolution?
[22:31] <TPBEurope> Could it be tricking me?
[22:32] <joe42> thanks just what i needd
[22:32] <joe42> needed
[22:32] <L3top> herpladee: I am just guessing... run ls -l /var/log and see if anything is of unusual size
[22:32] <Cerrdor> dune you still there?
[22:32] <L3top> herpladee: also look for a coredump someplace... those get big
[22:32] <joe42> thank you so much bye
[22:33] <TPBEurope> wawowe: Seriously though, how does it work there? Does nVidia detect the highest possible resolution or what?
[22:33] <wawowe> TPBEurope: yeah
[22:33] <dune> cerrdor yes
[22:33] <L3top> TPBEurope: your monitor sends EDID data, and the card reads and displays at whatever the EDID indicates, at your selection
[22:34] <TPBEurope> Okay, so that means..?
[22:34] <saint> hello
[22:34] <L3top> What is your problem TPBEurope, I am not sure what you are trying to fix.
[22:34] <Cerrdor> dune does it let you start hp-setup? Or just when you choose usb it gives you the error?
[22:34] <wawowe> TPBEurope: after you generate your xorg.conf add this to the monitor section: Modeline "1280x768_60.00" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync
[22:35] <TPBEurope> Dude, I'm running a resolution on a screen that can't handle anything above 1280x1024 yet it displays it only in Ubuntu.
[22:35] <mbutubuntu> I've installed a package {badPackage} (not from official repo) that has "corrupted" my apt-get system! apt-get -f install asks to remove packages I don't want remove (packaged installed voluntarily by me and not by package dependencies). Is there any way to remove the {badPackage} without its *fake* dependencies?
[22:35] <dune> cerrdor, i can start hp-setup
[22:36] <L3top> So the display is not what you expect it to be, or it is malformed on your screen meaning you have to scroll or it appears corrupt TPBEurope?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get -f install     please
[22:36] <Cerrdor> pick one dune either here or PM I cant do both lol
[22:37] <wawowe> TPBEurope: and in the screen section under Depth add: Modes "1280x768"
[22:38] <TPBEurope> Is it really possible that it's running it even though the hardware doesn't support it? Can I check to make sure which res it is.
[22:38] <wawowe> TPBEurope: if it's happening then the hardware supports it.. just not well
[22:38] <herpladee> rollin'
[22:39] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, https://gist.github.com/d110e051e20e9def605a - I'm on 10.04
[22:39] <TPBEurope> It wouldn't have displayed it in the options if it didn't support it, right?
[22:39] <L3top> because the hardware does not claim to support it does not mean the hardware can not run it TPBEurope. Chances are the boards which run the display were made for multiple models... but the EDID data does not lie, advertizing does.
[22:39] <wawowe> TPBEurope: use xrandr -s 1280x1024
[22:39] <wawowe> TPBEurope: if you don't need the modeline for that other resolution
[22:40] <TPBEurope> I wonder if I can enable this on Windows.
[22:40] <TPBEurope> I really want 1440 x 900 on Windows :P
[22:40] <L3top> If he is running an xorg.conf now wawowe I dont believe xrandr changes will work
[22:40] <L3top> It defaults to xorg.conf IF xorg.conf exists
[22:41] <TPBEurope> Is there a chance the monitor may blow up? :P
[22:41] <L3top> I would also not think that modlines would be necessary, just set resolution under screen options defaults
[22:42] <wawowe> TPBEurope: if xrandr -s 1024x1024 doesn't work you can xrandr --addmode
[22:42] <Eagleman> How do i spin down my hardisk after 2-3 hours idle?
[22:43] <TPBEurope> wawowe, What does that do exactly?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: there's an option in power options I believe
[22:43] <wawowe> TPBEurope: changes display resolution
[22:43] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, solved with dpkg -r --force-depends (from http://askubuntu.com/a/32899)
[22:44] <TPBEurope> Size 1280x768 not found in available modes
[22:44]  * L3top does not understand this quest for worse resolution
[22:45] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr --newmode "1280x768_60.00" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: sweet :)
[22:46] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr --addmode LVDS "1280x768"
[22:46] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr --addmode LVDS "1280x768_60.00"
[22:47] <donvito2> what do i need to add to boot.ini in windows xp , so grub2 will load?
[22:47] <jagginess> donvito, i think you need to do a chainload to grub.. there's easybcd app which may help..
[22:47] <TPBEurope> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[22:47] <TPBEurope> xrandr: cannot find output "LVDS"
[22:47] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, :-)
[22:47] <jagginess> donvito, oh wait.. this is xp
[22:48] <jagginess> donvito, it'll be better to use grub2
[22:48] <wawowe> TPBEurope: type xrandr by itself
[22:48] <jagginess> donvito, grub2 can chainload xp
[22:48] <donvito2> but first shows boot.ini
[22:48] <donvito2> not grub2
[22:48] <donvito2> i want to make grub2 shows first
[22:48] <donvito2> as boot menu
[22:48] <wawowe> TPBEurope: what are the different resolutions listed under?
[22:48] <donvito2> and i think i installed ubuntu from wubi
[22:49] <donvito2> with usb stick
[22:49] <jagginess> donvito, so make grub2 install to /dev/<sda or sdb-- find out>
[22:49] <TPBEurope> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[22:49] <TPBEurope> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1440 x 900, maximum 1440 x 1024
[22:49] <TPBEurope> default connected 1440x900+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[22:49] <TPBEurope> Holy crap. It can go up to 1440x1024?!
[22:49] <jagginess> donvito, can you boot into ubuntu?
[22:49] <wawowe> TPBEurope: one line lower
[22:49] <donvito2> yes if i put my usb stick
[22:49] <wawowe> TPBEurope: what does it say
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> TPBEurope: higher res = lower refresh :)
[22:49] <donvito2> if i dont put i get some eror hal.dll
[22:49] <jagginess> donvito2, ubuntu installer or or "installed" is on usb?
[22:50] <TPBEurope>    1280x1024      50.0     92.0     51.0
[22:50] <donvito2> installer is on usb
[22:50] <TPBEurope> ActionParsnip, As long as I'm running it, buddy :P
[22:50] <x3no> Hello. i am experimenting with a dd command to put zero bytes on all the sectors my ecternal HDD has. However, after writing my password in the terminal it shows absolutely nothing. Is the zero-byte-writing in progress or i am doing something wrong?
[22:50] <jagginess> donvito, is ubuntu installed?
[22:50] <donvito2> yes
[22:50] <wawowe> TPBEurope: doesn't say anything like "CRT connected"?
[22:51] <jagginess> donvito, boot into rescue shell with usb installer
[22:51] <TPBEurope> Don't see that anywhere.
[22:51] <L3top> x3no: yes.
[22:51] <donvito2> but i need to disconect from here
[22:51] <wawowe> TPBEurope: look for the word "connected"
[22:51] <L3top> x3no: unless you did something wrong
[22:51] <TPBEurope> I pasted that up there ^^
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[22:51] <wawowe> TPBEurope: oh sorry
[22:52] <TPBEurope> :P
[22:52] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr --addmode default "1280x768_60.00"
[22:52] <jagginess> donvito, oh
[22:52] <jagginess> donvito, um..
[22:52] <ClientAlive> hi all
[22:52] <donvito2> in boot.ini
[22:52] <TPBEurope> Eh xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[22:52] <TPBEurope> xrandr: cannot find mode "1280x768_60.00"
[22:52] <chalcedony> hi hi ActionParsnip :))
[22:52] <jagginess> donvito, try doing a chroot after mount --bind if needed, then grub-install /dev/<sd??>
[22:52] <chalcedony> good to see you :)
[22:52] <jagginess> donvito, you have /dev/sda or /dev/sdb as harddrive?
[22:52] <donvito2> i will write this c:\grub2.mbr="GRUB2 Bootloader"
[22:52] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr --newmode "1280x768_60.00" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync
[22:53] <x3no> L3top: did not know that zero byting takes so much time :/
[22:53] <ClientAlive> is there any way to set up an encrypted logical volume (luks) to just use your login to the system?
[22:53] <jagginess> donvito, i don't know/remember how good xp's boot.ini is, but I know vista's is good enough.. but you can use vista's on xp
[22:53] <ejv> how do I add the system monitor applet to the bar on top, this new "Unity" thing confuses the heck outta me
[22:53] <TPBEurope> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[22:53] <jagginess> donvito, i mean.. you "cant".. use vista
[22:53] <jagginess> 's..
[22:53] <donvito2> ok
[22:53] <donvito2> second ill try something
[22:53] <TPBEurope> Man, this xrandr is a pain in the ass.
[22:54] <jagginess> donvito, but u can boot with what i told you to try fixing grub2
[22:55] <jagginess> donvito, are you able to determine if it's /dev/sda or sdb ?
[22:55] <wawowe> TPBEurope: use Xorg -configure
[22:55] <jagginess> btw anyone knows if this tool is good? http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/
[22:55] <TPBEurope> Server is already active for display 0
[22:55] <TPBEurope> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[22:55] <TPBEurope> 	and start again.
[22:56] <ClientAlive> is anyone even familar with what using an encrypted volume is like? If I create another logical volume on an existing system and encrypt it, do I have to enter my pass phrase after logging into the system every time I fire up the computer?
[22:56] <wawowe> TPBEurope: ctrl+alt+f1 and service lightdm stop
[22:56] <prixon`> good night
[22:56] <TPBEurope> will that stop the gui?
[22:56] <trism> ejv: if you installed indicator-multiload, you need to create an entry in Startup Applications for it so it starts when your session starts (and optionally run it manually so you don't have to logout/login to start it now)
[22:56] <wawowe> TPBEurope: yes
[22:56] <TPBEurope> what do I do then..
[22:57] <wawowe> TPBEurope: Xorg -configure
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> or if its nvidia based:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:57] <TPBEurope> If it doesn't work I do lightdm start I iamgine.
[22:57] <TPBEurope> It is nvidia based.
[22:57] <L3top> nvidia has a native tool. sudo nvidia-xconfigure
[22:58] <L3top> or maybe it is nvidia-xconfig
[22:58] <wawowe> TPBEurope: then ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+c, then cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then service lightdm start
[22:58] <jagginess> donvito, your problem is.
[22:58] <wawowe> TPBEurope: all as root or with sudo
[22:58] <jagginess> donvito, you have to know if grub2's stage1 or stage is implanted on linux's / partition
[22:58] <TPBEurope> hold on, gotta write that thing down :P
[22:59] <jagginess> donvito, or know if your supplied .mbr file has a compatbile grub2 stage1
[22:59] <L3top> ugh... TPBEurope just use sudo nvidia-xconfigure
[23:00] <L3top> It will generate an nvidia specific xorg.conf and place it where it goes.
[23:01] <jagginess> x3no, you're trying to wipeout an entire drive? btw.. you wouldnt say "zero bytes" but a stream of bytes of value "0"
[23:02] <ejv> trism: thanks! i'll give that a try
[23:02] <jagginess> donvito, xp can be booted from grub2.. if you're really stuck and lost, i'd take http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ a look if the ubuntu install cd is giving more issues
[23:03] <jagginess> ,(or if the usb installer isnt very promising)
[23:03] <ejv> this startup applications seems awfully windowsy
[23:04] <TPBEurope> Oopsy-daisy. I have a problem.
[23:04] <TPBEurope> Whenever I try doing Command-Alt-F1 it goes to a orange screen without any input available.
[23:05] <TPBEurope> *an
[23:05] <melkor> TPBEurope: try alft+f2 then.
[23:05] <jagginess> TPBEurope, probably a kms issue (kernelmodesetting for video)
[23:05] <jagginess> !kms
[23:06] <ismell> ello
[23:06] <ismell> I just installed 12.04 and I cant reszie using the bottom corners
[23:06] <ismell> the border is to small
[23:06] <jagginess> ismell, try using systemsettings/mouse and increase the drag threshold
[23:07] <TPBEurope> Nope.
[23:07] <TPBEurope> Is there any way to get out of then without having to reboot?
[23:07] <L3top> TPBEurope: you are using ctrl alt f2
[23:07] <jagginess> TPBEurope, your keyboard becomes frozen?
[23:08] <TPBEurope> Si.
[23:08] <ismell> oh i'll try that
[23:08] <L3top> * you said command and jagginess left off ctlr
[23:08] <jagginess> TPBEurope, so you cant do alt+<arrow> ? (that'll change different tty's)
[23:08] <blz777> Hello. How can I disable the nvidia drivers in 12.04 since they freeze my system? Please pm me cause I'm writing from my phone.
[23:08] <L3top> just checking.
[23:08] <TPBEurope> No, I cannot.
[23:08] <sandyd> blz777: use nomodeset at the grub menu
[23:08] <wawowe> TPBEurope: if you installed openssh-server, ssh
[23:08] <jagginess> TPBEurope, (btw you can do alt-<arrow> once in plaintext do change tty's)
[23:08] <TPBEurope> The only thing I can do in that inteface is press Control-Alt-Delete.
[23:09] <jagginess> ok
[23:09] <jagginess> so its not compeltely frozen then..
[23:09] <blz777> Sandy's, I'm in terminal only
[23:09] <ismell> hrmm, that's stil only gives me 1px to grab
[23:09] <jagginess> TPBEurope, you tried ctl-alt-f7 afterwards or ctl-alt-f8 ?
[23:09] <melkor> TPBEurope: ctrl-alt-f7 should get you back to unity.
[23:09] <blz777> sandyd *
[23:09] <sandyd> blz777: when you boot, can you access the grub menu?
[23:09] <TPBEurope> I'm gonna try it now. If I quit, that means it failed :P
[23:10] <sandyd> blz777: wait. You can boot to the terminal?
[23:10] <blz777> Grub, ok got it now
[23:10] <blz777> Sorry, I'm very sleepy.. so
[23:10] <TPBEurope> Yeah, I can get back to Unity just fine.
[23:10] <TPBEurope> But I still can't do anything over there.
[23:11] <blz777> I have to boot with parameters?
[23:11] <Outlander> Hi Team, I'm having trouble dual booting win7 and ubuntu, ubuntu installer sees drives as blank with no partitions whereas they have windows partitions already. Any urls/guides that show what I'm doing wrong?
[23:11] <sandyd> blz777: Wait. I asked if you can boot to a terminal, or if you are getting a black screen.
[23:11] <jagginess> Outlander, you using dynamic disk?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: resize the NTFS is Windows (if you haven't left free space)
[23:12] <jagginess> blz777, i would type "stop lightdm" as root and see if you can access the physical console..
[23:12] <jagginess> blz777, can you do that?
[23:12] <Outlander> not sure, but can find out. What's the default disk type for a win7 install? This is a fresh install and I'm free to re-install eitherway
[23:12] <blz777> I am able to get a terminal with ctrl alt f2 before the ui freeze
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: and chkdsk your NTFS partition too, so you know it's healthy
[23:12] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr -s 1280x1024
[23:12] <Outlander> I have a new dell inspiron 15R special edition (includes msata 32gig ssd)
[23:12] <wawowe> TPBEurope: xrandr -s 1024x768
[23:12] <sandyd> blz777: Login to the terminal. Type in "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current"
[23:13] <jagginess> blz777, it must be X leeching the keyboard.. if you try "stop lightdm", X should release it
[23:13] <blz777> I'm sorry I'm typing so slow, but I'm in my phone ..
[23:13] <Outlander> I install windows first, then go to install ubuntu. Ubuntu disk tool can see all the partitions fine, the installer cannot
[23:13] <Outlander> Also tried alternate text install
[23:13] <TPBEurope> wawowe, still not available.
[23:13] <blz777> Ok, trying it now..
[23:13] <jagginess> Outlander, i believe you have to choose the last option that allows more custom partitioning..
[23:13] <wawowe> TPBEurope: are there no other resolutions listed under default connected when you run xrandr?
[23:14] <Outlander> I choose custom partitioning, it then shows both of my drives as blank with no partitions and only free space
[23:14] <TPBEurope> Do you want the full output?
[23:14] <Outlander> as if it cannot correctly see or recognise the partition table
[23:14] <XX> hey
[23:14] <Outlander> I've tried GUID as well as MBR partition table to install windows on
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: do you have unpartitioned space for ubuntu?
[23:14] <wawowe> TPBEurope: pastebin it
[23:14] <XX> does anyone know how i can access the network files from ubuntu?
[23:14] <jagginess> Outlander, you're using dynamic disk? (check with windows)
[23:14] <Outlander> I have space free for ubuntu partions yes
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: is the partition dynamic?
[23:14] <agentcobra> hi
[23:15] <blz777> Ok, I purged nvidia. What now?
[23:15] <TPBEurope> wawowe, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008866/
[23:15] <Smashcat> Hi, i have a RAID1 device that's stuck at 7% resyncing. There's no errors, but it's at 7% immediately after a reboot, and never progresses
[23:15] <Outlander> Ok, so I'll check if the partition is dynamic? That might be confusing ubuntu?
[23:15] <jagginess> (ActionParsnip, not the partition, the partition table -- dynamic disk is M$ format)
[23:15] <jagginess> Outlander, no, dynamic disk, is M$ partitioning style format..
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: ahh, i see
[23:15] <TPBEurope> See the maximum res now?
[23:16] <TPBEurope> It can change for some reason.
[23:16] <jagginess> Outlander, i believe it's not 100% reversed engineered by the ldm project
[23:16] <Outlander> If it is dynamic, I can use windows to switch it back to basic?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: sure
[23:16] <jagginess> Outlander, you can, but with paragon's tool.. not m$
[23:16] <agentcobra> hello everybody
[23:16] <Outlander> so what's the best way to install both OSes, what order and with what caveats?
[23:17] <blz777> Jagginess, stop lightdm gave me: stop: Unknown instance
[23:17] <wawowe> TPBEurope: your monitor isn't giving edid info
[23:17] <TPBEurope> what does that mean
[23:17] <jagginess> Outlander, what does parted say? or can you acccess gparted? (a gui part tool)
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: install Ubuntu 2nd so the dual boot is managed automagically
[23:17] <Outlander> parted sees all patitions
[23:17] <jagginess> blz777, try it with sudo, or try using superuser (sudo su -l)
[23:18] <jagginess> blz777, you using 11.10+ ?
[23:18] <techie1980> I am having some trouble getting steam to properly install via wine.  it keeps saying steam is already installed when I try to bring it in via winetricks, and I can't figure out how to clear the old install out
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: sudo -i
[23:18] <blz777> 12.04
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> techie1980: you can delete ~/.wine and all the apps you installed will go with it :)
[23:18] <wawowe> TPBEurope: boot into single usermode and run the Xorg -configure
[23:18] <Outlander> ActionParsnip: but first I'll need to ensure using the tool from Paragon that can ensure the win partitions are not dynamic?
[23:18] <jagginess> blz777, should be lightdm as well i believe (past 11.10)
[23:19] <TPBEurope> is that the recovery thing on bootup?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: I believe you can change it in disk manager
[23:19] <jagginess> Outlander, no..
[23:19] <TPBEurope> does it matter if I upgraded the kernel, btw>
[23:19] <jagginess> Outlander, i said you can check that with windows if you want.. you may possibly be able to tell with linux tools/cli commands
[23:19] <wawowe> TPBEurope: and under Depth put: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[23:19] <Outlander> and with windows, i can set it back to basic partition?
[23:19] <jagginess> Outlander, rt-click computer and choose 'manage'.. in the Disk Management section..
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Outlander: i believe so
[23:19] <Outlander> ok cool
[23:20] <Outlander> Will try that and see how I go
[23:20] <Outlander> thanks heaps!
[23:20] <techie1980> ActionParsnip: are there conf files elsewhere that might also refer to what winetricks thinks is installed?
[23:20] <wawowe> TPBEurope: then mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot
[23:20] <TPBEurope> brb
[23:20] <blz777> Ive had trouble with nvidia and 12.04 but found a way to make my system work without nvidia drivers
[23:20] <jagginess> Outlander, if its dynamic give me a pm.. i can tell you how to put it back to basic
[23:20] <jagginess> blz777, i thought you said it freezes.. so you fixed it?
[23:21] <blz777> I can't find that solution now.. had to do with removing nvidia and setting default drivers for the system
[23:21] <guest65536> hello. I am trying to change the screen refresh rate in 12.04. I have a samsung lcd monitor, and an nvidia 260gtx. xrandr says the refresh rate is 50Hz but it should be 60Hz. The nvidia control panel says 60Hz, but how can I be sure what the real refresh rate is?
[23:22] <blz777> Yes, when I manage to start lightdm, it freezes after a minute or so
[23:22] <spaceneedle> Odd: Earlier today I had my laptop on when suddenly a window popped open wanting me to install what appeared to be a language pack.  I updated thru synaptic but no language pack was installed.
[23:22] <blz777> It's now stuck at logo screen at startup
[23:23] <jagginess> blz777, you're able to um.. boot into runlevel 1.. try working on your real computer than from your phone
[23:23] <blz777> Let me try installing irc from terminal and get back to you
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> guest65536: you can use an xorg.conf file and override what is allowed
[23:24] <jagginess> guest65536, this is often the case when E-did is not picked up properly (it should say success or fail in /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[23:24] <guest65536> ActionParsnip I will check the xorg.0.log now
[23:25] <jagginess> guest65536, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
[23:26] <jagginess> guest65536, sometimes it may happen if the cable is too long or someone is using a kvm (a monitor switch box)
[23:26] <TPBEurope> It said it failed.
[23:26] <TPBEurope> Didn't give a specific error.
[23:26] <wawowe> TPBEurope: what failed?
[23:26] <TPBEurope> Xorg -configure.
[23:26] <blz777-hp> hello again
[23:27] <wawowe> TPBEurope: are you root?
[23:27] <TPBEurope> Positive.
[23:27] <blz777-hp> jagginess, you there?
[23:27] <wawowe> TPBEurope: try: init 2
[23:27] <TPBEurope> wawowe, Let me just ask. Are you sure you know what I'm trying to do here?
[23:28] <wawowe> TPBEurope: you're trying to get a decent resolution on your display
[23:28] <wawowe> TPBEurope: that doesn't stretch or distort things
[23:28] <jagginess> blz777-hp, you get errors /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? see which driver it actually uses
[23:28] <TPBEurope> wawowe, Yeah, I'm trying to add a few custom res to the nvidia-settings thing.
[23:29] <wawowe> TPBEurope: why do you want 1280x768?
[23:29] <blz777-hp> jagginess, i will now
[23:29] <blz777-hp> !ls
[23:29] <TPBEurope> wawowe, So far I thought that was the one it supported.
[23:29] <blz777-hp> oops :D
[23:29] <TPBEurope> wawowe, But it turns out it can go up to 1440 x 1024.
[23:29] <bozrdang> I'm running 12.04 and I have the following line in /etc/fstab - //192.168.1.21/Kevin  /home/kevin/Tower2-Kevin cifs _netdev,file_mode=077,dir_mode=077 0 0.  My problem is that the mount is not created on boot, but it is created if I run sudo mount -a in terminal.  How do I get it mount at boot?
[23:29] <wawowe> TPBEurope: it can't really
[23:29] <blz777-hp> if i only knew how to get out of that epic5 irc i just installed :D
[23:29] <TPBEurope> wawowe, So is it tricking me or what?
[23:30] <wawowe> TPBEurope: it didn't give the edid info, so X just made all that up
[23:30]  * jagginess thinks apt-get install pastebinit , cat /var/log/Xorg.log |pastebinit -t mypasteTitle , then paste url
[23:30] <TPBEurope> wawowe, But.. wait..
[23:30] <TPBEurope> wawowe, So what the heck am I running now?
[23:30] <wawowe> TPBEurope: that's why xrandr didn't work
[23:30] <wawowe> TPBEurope: init 2
[23:30] <wawowe> TPBEurope: then hopefully Xorg -configure
[23:30] <jagginess> blz777-hp, try ctl-alt-f2 ?
[23:31] <sinistrad> I installed ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. Sound worked on previous versions. I installed this one fresh. My sound isn't working though. Here is a paste of my alsa logs: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b73308f5bd30eb10871163137b1da094e5fa6cd
[23:31] <Smashcat> bozrdang: Probably because it needs samba running before it can mount that. You could try making it an automount, then it will attempt to mount it when you first try to use it
[23:31] <ejv> how do I make the expand window area larger, it's terribly small
[23:33] <blz777-hp-2> jagginess, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008881
[23:33] <bozrdang> Smashcat:  Linux newb here.  How do I make it an auto mount?
[23:33] <OerHeks> ejf to expand a window: alt F8
[23:33] <recon69_lap> sinistrad: had some sound weirdness, but to do with earphones
[23:34] <sinistrad> recon69_lap, Hrm, I'll try that
[23:34] <ejv> neat trick
[23:34] <jagginess> sinistrad, maybe you want a simple ~/.asoundrc file made to specify a default output..
[23:34] <ejv> not exactly what i was looking for, but helps thanks
[23:34] <Smashcat> bozrdang: look up the AutoFS stuff - pretty easy to use really. Alternatively you could just add a script to run after the other bootup scripts to run the command you run as root manually.
[23:34] <guest65536> jagginess I checked the xorg.0.log file and it looks like the edid was found. I can't see an error, and it looks like it should be set to 60hz, but it's not http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008882/
[23:34] <recon69_lap> sinistrad: the issue i was getting is that pluggin in earphone would not stop main sound, but booting with earphones in turned off main sound
[23:35] <bozrdang> Smashcat:  thanks.  I'll look that up.
[23:35] <Smashcat> bozrdang: Info on the second option here: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[23:36] <techie1980> I am having a problem installing steam on ubuntu. I have symlinked my /home/$user/.wine directory to a path with enough space to install games, but steam keeps coming back saying there's not enough free space and giving me how much is availible in my /home. any ideas of how to correct the issue?
[23:37] <TPBEurope> init 2 worked up until the login, upon which it denied every possible login I tried
[23:37] <sinistrad> recon69_lap, jagginess,  the only output device I have is "Dummy Output". The headphones don't seem to work either
[23:37] <TPBEurope> afterward it screwed up the screen and rebooted
[23:38] <wawowe> TPBEurope: do you know your password? or have autologin enabled by default or something?
[23:38] <TPBEurope> No, sir. I know it, and auto-login isn't enabled.
[23:38] <binwin20> hello world
[23:39] <jagginess> blz777-hp-2, cant say much other than try disabling nouveau.kms (you probably can with kernel bootline), and see if the problem goes away
[23:39] <guest65536> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008889/ and I think it says it should be 60hz. So why is xrandr reporting only 50hz? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008892/
[23:39] <TPBEurope> wawowe, I know this is stupid to ask but are you sure it is not actually runing the resolution?
[23:40] <jagginess> sinistrad, but your playlist devices on that pastebin url shows it isnt a dummy output
[23:40] <wawowe> TPBEurope: running the resolution you want?
[23:41] <TPBEurope> Yeah.
[23:41] <TPBEurope> wawowe: Would you like me to demonstrate what I mean?
[23:41] <wawowe> TPBEurope: if you're happy with the way it looks then there's no point in changing it
[23:41] <wawowe> TPBEurope: yea
[23:42] <sinistrad> jagginess, <shrugs> that's all it shows in my sound prefs app
[23:42] <emes> how well does ubuntu run on a macbook air?
[23:43] <TPBEurope> wawowe, hold on a sec.
[23:44] <jagginess> sinistrad, aplay --list ?
[23:44] <jagginess> !mac
[23:44] <jagginess> i believe you need refit.sf.net
[23:44] <jagginess> (refit for making linux boot on a mac)
[23:45] <nimei> Hi. When using 'dhclient' and iw/ifconfig manually, I never get a DHCPOFFER. I've installed network-manager and it couldn't connect either. However, when I've installed nm-applet and I clicked on the network name, it works without problems. Is there any rational explanation for this? (this is a wireless/ndiswrapper connection)
[23:45] <wawowe> TPBEurope: as far as init 2 boot up normally then edit /etc/init/tty1.conf and change "exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1" --> "exec /sbin/login -f TPBEurope" then reboot into single user, run init 2, then Xorg -configure
[23:45] <jagginess> nimei, you either use ifupdown scripts or networkmanager (nmcli, nm* command)
[23:46] <wawowe> TPBEurope: replace TPBEurope with your username
[23:46] <TPBEurope> do you mind if I pm you here, or whatever that's called on irc?
[23:46] <jagginess> nimei, nm-applet works with dbus/networkmanager
[23:46] <nimei> jagginess: My goal would be to connect without the need for network-manager at all.
[23:46] <wawowe> TPBEurope: go ahead
[23:46] <sinistrad> jagginess, http://pastebin.com/Y61M6Q6X
[23:46] <Cerrdor> I need to run the output of /var/log/messages in the terminal with -f how do I do that?
[23:46] <jagginess> nimei, ya.. that's possible.. but you have to edit networkmanager conf, (there's manpages but not much tutorials on this)
[23:46] <EliahKagan> Cerrdor: perhaps you're thinking of: tail -f /var/log/messages
[23:47] <jagginess> sinistrad, as regular user try, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
[23:47] <EliahKagan> that will show the end of /var/log/messages, and it will keep running, showing each line as it is added to the file
[23:47] <Cerrdor> EliahKagan, yeah after I pasted that I realized I was missing something crucial lol
[23:48] <jagginess> scratch that.. it doesnt exists anymore
[23:48] <jagginess> sinistrad, ^
[23:49] <sinistrad> jagginess, No such file or directory
[23:49] <sinistrad> jagginess, yep
[23:49] <nimei_> Sorry, disconnected.
[23:49] <jagginess> sinistrad, there a ~/.asoundrc file?
[23:49] <sinistrad> jagginess, no. Not sure how to create one
[23:50] <TPBEurope> Folks, any idea on how to install Tibesti, the screen recorder in 12.04?
[23:50] <jagginess> sinistrad, is this an onboard audio or a card audio?
[23:50] <sinistrad> jagginess, onboard laptop audio
[23:50] <jagginess> sinistrad, what model is it?
[23:51] <jagginess> sinistrad, often more than not, sometimes a fix to this for laptops has to do with passing a special parameter
[23:51] <guest65536> jagginess here is my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008889/ It looks 60hz is configured. but why is xrandr still not showing it correctly?
[23:51] <jagginess> (for the sound module)
[23:52] <sinistrad> jagginess, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[23:52] <jagginess> sinistrad, no.. the laptop model..
[23:53] <sinistrad> jagginess, HP HDX 16-1140US
[23:54] <GeekSquid> TPBEurope: sudo apt-get install tibesti  -- or you can do it from synaptic or USC
[23:55] <TPBEurope> oh it's not in the repos I think
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> !info tibesti
[23:56] <GeekSquid> ActionParsnip: yes it does.. it is in the extra repos
[23:58] <jagginess> sinistrad, no sound ever plays with aplay ?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> GeekSquid: never said it didn't :)
[23:58] <GeekSquid> ActionParsnip: perhaps I should be speaking to our gentle bot
[23:58] <jagginess> sinistrad, if i were you i'd take to see if i need special module parameters (like model= ) .. these go into the module options file, or can be tested on the fly with the modprobe command..
[23:59] <TPBEurope> found it, nvm folks
[23:59] <jagginess> sinistrad, the option parameters are passed to the snd-hda-intel module
[23:59] <sinistrad> jagginess, I created an .asoundrc file. I guess I'll need to relog to try if it works
[23:59] <jagginess> sinistrad, may be related, you probably need something much simpler than what this post has..  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1191894.html