[00:00] <puzhengcai> hello
[01:47] <sunitasethi> hi
[02:03] <Kovica> I have a question about running a bash script via dolphin. In script run.sh I have a line like this ". ~/.bashrc" in ~/.bashrc I have "export MY_PROG_HOME=~/Apps/myProg/". The problem I have is that in run.sh MY_PROG_HOME is not set. Why?
[02:05] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  echo $MY_PROG_HOME
[02:05] <LordOfTime> anything come from that?
[02:06] <Kovica>  I have echo "MY_PROG_HOME=$MA_PROG_HOME" and the result is "MY_PROG_HOME="
[02:06] <Kovica> I have echo "MY_PROG_HOME=$MY_PROG_HOME" and the result is "MY_PROG_HOME="
[02:07] <LordOfTime> you didnt do what i said :p
[02:07] <LordOfTime> do 'source ~/.bashrc'
[02:07] <LordOfTime> then do 'echo $MY_PROG_HOME'
[02:08] <LordOfTime> anything come out from that?
[02:11] <Kovica> LordOfTime: I'm doing that in my script. And I gout empty string
[02:12] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  do it in terminal
[02:12] <LordOfTime> not in your script
[02:12] <LordOfTime> i thought that'd have been a given
[02:12] <LordOfTime> because you have to test outside of the script
[02:12] <Kovica> LordOfTime: In terminal I do get it right
[02:12] <Kovica> LordOfTime: So, MY_PROG_HOME=/home/user/Apps/Prog
[02:13] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  does MY_PROG_HOME need to be global outside of that script, or only within the script?
[02:14] <Kovica> LordOfTime: I'd like to have it set in my .bashrc so I can use that from any other script.
[02:15] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  try your script now, after you do source ~/.bashrc in the terminal first (again)
[02:18] <Kovica> LordOfTime: this is the script I have:
[02:18] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  pastebin
[02:19] <Kovica> LordOfTime: http://pastebin.com/V7tkdx2e
[02:20] <LordOfTime> try this: https://pastebin.com/ze26YwUS
[02:20] <Kovica> LordOfTime: If I add MY_PROG-HOME to .bashrc after I have opened a terminal then this script returns empty string
[02:21] <Kovica> LordOfTime: MY_PROG_HOME =
[02:21] <LordOfTime> read the pastebin i sent you
[02:21] <Kovica> I did
[02:22] <LordOfTime> did you try it?
[02:22] <Kovica> LordOfTime: MY_PROG_HOME =
[02:22] <LordOfTime> ahhhhhhh
[02:22] <LordOfTime> wait a sec
[02:22] <LordOfTime> you have to source .bashrc thhen first
[02:22] <LordOfTime> because if you add it to bashrc AFTER the terminal is open it won't be referenced
[02:22] <LordOfTime> so close the terminal and reopen it
[02:22] <LordOfTime> and try again
[02:23] <Kovica> LordOfTime: Now it is working..
[02:23] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  ~/.bashrc is only sourced when a new instance of Bash opens
[02:24] <LordOfTime> if you edit it *after* the session is up
[02:24] <LordOfTime> s/up/already open/
[02:24] <LordOfTime> you have to do source ~/.bashrc
[02:24] <LordOfTime> and it'll resource that file and apply it
[02:24] <Kovica> LordOfTime: But this is not what I want.. :) I want to be able to run the script via dolphin file manager
[02:24] <LordOfTime> Kovica: ... eh?
[02:24] <LordOfTime> what's this script going to do?
[02:25] <Kovica> LordOfTime: If I double click in thebash script inside of dolphin then I still get empty string
[02:25] <LordOfTime> you're not answering my questions
[02:25] <LordOfTime> why do you need to run the script from Dolphin?
[02:25] <Kovica> LordOfTime: Dolphin or from a shortcut in Desktop..
[02:26] <LordOfTime> give me 15 seconds to load up KDE
[02:28] <Kovica> LordOfTime: I need this because I install progam will install the actual program on the machine and write its path to .bashrc and put an icon on the desktop. The usercan install the program in a directory of his choosing
[02:28] <LordOfTime> .bashrc is a per-user file
[02:29] <Kovica> LordOfTime: yes..
[02:29] <LordOfTime> so ~/Any/Path will become /home/[user]/Any/Path
[02:29] <LordOfTime> so unless they have Any/Path in their own home dir, it won't work
[02:29] <LordOfTime> :p
[02:29] <Kovica> LordOfTime: the user will install it in its home directory
[02:31] <LordOfTime> Kovica:  oh... kay......
[02:32] <LordOfTime> i think you've messed up something, but...
[02:32] <LordOfTime> in Dolphin, my script's supposed to open a test file from a variable'd path location
[02:32] <LordOfTime> and its working fine
[02:32] <LordOfTime> so...
[02:32] <LordOfTime> *shurgs*
[02:32] <FloodBotK1> LordOfTime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <LordOfTime> shut up floodbot
[02:36] <Kovica> LordOfTime: hmm. What could I do wrong..
[02:40] <Kovica> LordOfTime: oh well.. Thanks for your help. It's a bit late here (4:40 in the morning). I have to go.. Bye
[05:13] <ussher_> when launching games they often try to take over the whole screen.  Is there a way to force them to launch into a single window that i can position where i want it?
[05:14] <ussher_> for example 'teeworlds' a game from the standard repos
[05:37] <Avihay> ussher_: try "man teeworlds" or ask google
[06:28] <gio3505> hello guys, anyone here?
[06:29] <xieyi> hi, what is the matter
[06:30] <gio3505> I was trying to install kubuntu via wubi, but kubuntu was not listed in desktop environments. Have any idea?
[06:31] <xieyi> sorry, I am newbie too :-p
[06:31] <gio3505> lol, k
[06:32] <gio3505> its odd though, cause the website says that wubi allows you to install it, but the only environment listed is ubuntu...
[06:34] <xieyi> maybe you can install kubuntu on virtual machine
[06:34] <gio3505> nah, kinda wanted to dualboot it. ill try the ubuntu channel.
[06:35] <xieyi> has anyone know how to edit formula in calligra word?
[08:13] <jpgeek1> hey there Kubuntu
[08:14] <jpgeek1> I have been trying to change the font size in xterm via the .Xresources file
[08:15] <jpgeek1> however setting the faceSize: only works if I set the font as well
[08:15] <jpgeek1> and setting the font to anything other than -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
[08:15] <jpgeek1> makes Japanese input not show the qlyphs any more
[08:16] <jpgeek1> might someone be able to kindly point me in the right direction?
[08:25] <jxjl> good morning, I am trying new kde telephaty, but I have problem, whe I add presence plasmoid, I can't see it on panel, but when I right click on place, where it should be, menu with presence pops up. is this bug or I am doing something wrong?
[09:15] <cancer> http://paste.kde.org/487838/
[09:23] <mcloy> how to restart samba, my windows machine shares are not showing up
[09:24] <mcloy> is there a way not to install kde (remove it) but run dolphin or xchat or a video (just these applications) and do all work at command line?
[09:31] <cancer> Any HELP http://paste.kde.org/487838/
[11:53] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[12:15] <safridzal> help please, im using kubuntu 1204, after run a wine apps, half of my desktop gone. I've try restart the plasma-desktop but its not work
[12:16] <safridzal> ping
[12:17] <Mamarok> safridzal: no worries, that was just a netsplit
[12:17] <safridzal> whats netsplit?
[12:17] <Mamarok> safridzal: that is when the server is disconnected from the network
[12:18] <safridzal> owh..
[12:18] <Mamarok> as you need to go through a server to reach IRC
[12:18] <Mamarok> but it is nothing to worry about for the user
[12:18] <safridzal> can you help me??  im using kubuntu 1204, after run a wine apps, half of my desktop gone. I've try restart the plasma-desktop but its not work
[12:19] <Mamarok> safridzal: hm, did you try to just restart KDE?
[12:19] <safridzal> i've try restart the box
[12:20] <safridzal> and the desktop still weird
[12:20] <Mamarok> weird as in no planel visible?
[12:20] <safridzal> no, it like there is a space on my desktop
[12:20] <safridzal> my wallpaper can fill that space
[12:20] <Mamarok> safridzal: you see the panel?
[12:20] <safridzal> *cant
[12:21] <safridzal> Mamarok: yep, i see the panel, the wighet anything
[12:21] <safridzal> ah, i;ve unlock my widget, but i cant move them.. its kind of stuck
[12:21] <Mamarok> sounds like a graphical glitch to me, that usually is solved by restartin Kwin, which you do by just logging out of KDE and in again
[12:21] <safridzal> i've try that
[12:22] <Mamarok> you tried that already?
[12:22] <safridzal> yep, not working
[12:22] <Mamarok> what strange application did you try to run wiht wine?
[12:22] <safridzal> a game, 4x4 evo
[12:22] <safridzal> its run OK before..
[12:23] <Mamarok> just a moment, I need to fin where wine stores the settings which might be the problem
[12:24] <Mamarok> safridzal: check if you have a folder called .wine/
[12:25] <safridzal> on my ~ ?
[12:25] <Mamarok> yes, do -s -la in a konsole
[12:25] <Mamarok> sorry: ls -la
[12:25] <safridzal> .wine ?
[12:25] <safridzal> its there
[12:26] <Mamarok> then erase it, then restart KDE
[12:26] <safridzal> but my game will erased then?
[12:26] <safridzal> my c drive is on that .wine folder
[12:26] <Mamarok> well, the game appears to be the responsible for your desktop problem, not sure you really want to run that again
[12:27] <Mamarok> or at least run it as a different user
[12:28] <safridzal> brb
[12:40] <safridzal> Mamarok: not working
[12:41] <Mamarok> safridzal: you are not on a wubi isntallation, are you?
[12:42] <safridzal> no
[12:42] <safridzal> its a full insatll
[12:42] <safridzal> System:    Host aragorn-1215B Kernel 3.2.0-23-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc 4.6.3)
[12:42] <safridzal>            Desktop KDE 4.8.2 (Qt 4.8.1) Distro Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[12:42] <safridzal> and my graph
[12:42] <safridzal> Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] bus-ID 00:01.0
[12:42] <safridzal>            X.Org 1.11.3 drivers ati,fglrx (unloaded: vesa,fbdev,radeon) Resolution 1366x768@60.0hz
[12:42] <safridzal>            GLX Renderer AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics GLX Version 4.2.11627 - CPC Direct Rendering Yes
[12:44] <Mamarok> safridzal: changing the wallpaper didn't help I guess
[12:45] <Mamarok> what if you change the desktop layout?
[12:45] <safridzal> still not working
[12:46] <Mamarok> even with a different desktop layout? Try the search and launch one
[12:46] <safridzal> i've try to change to plasma netbook, and it fill all my screen
[12:46] <safridzal> but if i choose plasma-desktop, it still there, the space
[12:47] <Mamarok> that sounds like a plasma widget taking up that space and not being visible
[12:48] <Mamarok> safridzal: could you please make a snapshot of what it looks like? KSnapshot is the tool for that
[12:49] <safridzal> still waiting for imageshak tu load
[12:49] <safridzal> i got a very slow inet here
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hi folksd
[12:51] <Mamarok> hi BluesKaj :)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> hey Mamarok , how's things ? :)
[12:53] <Mamarok> fine, thanks. Triaging plasma bugs these days, quite a challenge :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj> I can imagine
[12:53] <safridzal> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/snapshot1xp.jpg/
[12:53] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: see -offtopic for the sequel :)
[12:54] <BluesKaj> yup , got it :)
[12:56] <safridzal> Mamarok: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2840/snapshot1xp.jpg
[12:56] <Mamarok> safridzal: IIUC your desktop lost it's right side, correct? Please go to the system settings -> Display and Monitor and check if the settings there are correct
[12:56] <Mamarok> probably the game resized your resolution
[12:58] <safridzal> Mamarok: but i can right click on that blank space
[12:58] <safridzal> the monirot setting is right
[12:58] <Mamarok> can you drag the widets to that space too?
[13:00] <Mamarok> safridzal: can you drag the widgets to that space too?
[13:01] <safridzal> cant
[13:01] <safridzal> cant move the widget
[13:01] <safridzal> all my wigdet
[13:01] <Mamarok> you can't move them at all? weird
[13:01] <Mamarok> what if you set the desktop layout to grouping desktop instead of desktop?
[13:02] <Mamarok> does that help?
[13:02] <Mamarok> then it is a plasma bug fixed in 4.8.3
[13:02] <safridzal> how can i do that
[13:03] <Mamarok> right click on the desktop -> Desktop settings -> Layout
[13:03] <Mamarok> you can try between the desktop and grouping desktop
[13:04] <safridzal> nnot working
[13:04] <safridzal> still
[13:04] <Mamarok> those are quite similar, but I had to do this at some point in 4.8.2 to have my wallpaper stretched correctly
[13:04] <safridzal> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/05/27/snapshot2.jpeg
[13:05] <Mamarok> safridzal: what is your current desktop layout? Folder view?
[13:05] <safridzal> dekstop now
[13:05] <safridzal> and after i change to newspaper layot, i got this:
[13:05] <safridzal> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/05/27/snapshot3.jpeg
[13:06] <Mamarok> your desktop geometry is totally off, did you check if there is a shift in the horizontal orientation in the monitor (System settings -> Display and Monitor)
[13:08] <safridzal> its no rotation
[13:08] <safridzal> is that relevant?
[13:09] <Mamarok> safridzal: no, what is relevant is the position
[13:09] <Mamarok> that should be Absolute, 0, 0
[13:09] <safridzal> it is now
[13:09] <Mamarok> wasn't it before?
[13:10] <safridzal> it was
[13:10] <safridzal> aghh
[13:11] <safridzal> now i think about reinstalling
[13:11] <Mamarok> no, why? Upgrade to KDE 4.8.3 might be better, it is in the kubuntu-backports PPA
[13:12] <sallai> Helo
[13:13] <sallai> Egy kis segítség kellenecompiz-zal kapcsolatban
[13:13] <Mamarok> sallai: !hu
[13:13] <sallai> Tud segíteni valaki 12.04 LTS van telepítve?
[13:13] <Mamarok> sallai: this is an english cannel only, please
[13:13] <Mamarok> !hu > sallai
[13:14] <Mamarok> channel* actually
[13:14] <sallai> Köszönöm
[13:14] <Mamarok> sallai: English, please! I won't repeat that!
[13:17] <BluesKaj> !hu | sallai
[13:18] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: it's OK, I think he understood, the last word he said apparently means Thank you :)
[13:19] <Mamarok> I already told him the channel
[13:19] <BluesKaj> well, Mamarok , it's still not English :)
[13:20] <Mamarok> yes, but you are basically repeating what I already did :)
[13:20] <BluesKaj> ok , I just switched over to my test drive , so i missed that
[14:17] <faglnar> Why ia Konqueror/rekonq so slow?
[14:18] <Mamarok> faglnar: you have a slow computer or a slow connection maybe?
[14:18] <Mamarok> Rekonq works normally fast here, compared to Chromium and Firefox on the same machine
[14:19] <Mamarok> I haven't used Konqueror in ages though, can't tell about that one
[14:19] <faglnar> Slow connection yes, slow computer no. Firefox and chromium are fast as usual but rekonq does take even about 10 seconds to render the webinterface of my router which is connected per gigabit lan
[14:20] <BluesKaj> the problem is rekonq is the default and it's still a bit buggy
[14:21] <Tm_T> faglnar: I wonder if there's some JS involved that is slow on js engine rekonq is using
[14:21] <Tm_T> or something similar
[14:21] <faglnar> its the luci interface from openwrt
[14:22] <faglnar> but regardless of the site its significantly slower than firefox and chromium
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, rekonq keeps reloading here , I have to resize for my large monitor and it loads java or flash really slow then it reverts and I have resize again ...you might be on to something
[14:24] <faglnar> also how can I turn off the offer to install flash player on konqueror/rekonq start?
[15:35] <otherM> Hi...
[15:35] <otherM> I can't find the channel list in Quassel
[15:36] <otherM> got it
[15:38] <otherM> I just want to have casual conversation. This network seems mostly technical. Where could I go instead?
[15:38] <DarthFrog> #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <otherM> good point
[15:45] <sparaj> hello to all kubuntu users
[15:46] <D-coy> :|
[15:49] <BluesKaj> hi sparaj
[16:54] <sunitasethi> hi
[17:01] <Ezim> hi sunitasethi
[17:12] <sunitasethi> hi
[17:25] <Joit> sunitasethi: hows your linux installation doing?
[17:27] <faglnar> I just found again a way to appreciate kde
[17:27] <faglnar> the incredible window behavior customization
[17:39] <elfh> hello
[17:41] <elfh> can anyone help me to install lmms on kubuntu 12, 64 bit? is it possible at all?  i added repositories, but when trying to install lmms i get error - not installable.
[17:43] <sunitasethi> Joit: it is so far as good...it takes some time to boot up
[17:43] <sunitasethi> Joit: i have ubuntu 12.04
[17:51] <Ezim> elfh, https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/sound?field.series_filter=precise
[18:01] <Joit> sunitasethi: good to hear that. I got 12.04 too, but it actually boot fast, i got a 3200mhz cpu with 1gb ram, cant complain about it, it starts faster then my other PC what first shows the boot menu and other stuff
[18:05] <swecarp> elfh,  iissent lmms in muon
[18:06] <Ezim> kubuntu boots okey here also
[18:06] <Ezim> with 12.04 even plymouth works good :)
[18:49] <elfh> swecarp, i tried install from muon, i get the following error: The "lmms" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:
[18:49] <elfh>         Depends: lmms-common (=0.4.10-2ubuntu1), but 0.4.13-stable.git.2225-2~precise1 is to be installed
[18:49] <elfh>         Recommends: caps, but it is not installable
[18:49] <elfh>         Recommends: tap-plugins, but it is not installable
[18:49] <elfh> Ezim, i already added those ppas
[18:50] <Ezim> elfh, okey.. did not lmms that was in muon from start good enough?
[18:50] <elfh> i didn't have lmms in muon from the start.
[18:51] <Ezim> elfh, I you should.. weird..
[18:51] <qbit> I see lmms in my Muon here too
[18:52] <elfh> Ezim, i checked muon software center and couldn't find it there. then i added ppa and checked it again - no luck, then found those packets in muon package manager
[18:53] <Ezim> elfh, yeah you should first search muon package manager
[18:53] <Ezim> I do not use muon software center
[18:53] <Ezim> do not find it good enough
[18:54] <elfh> Ezim, well, i can delete those ppas and check again. will this change anything?
[18:54] <Ezim> elfh, you will have the package provided by ubuntu
[18:54] <Ezim> should work
[18:54] <elfh> Ezim, ok, will try now
[18:55] <Ezim> elfh, you know how to remove ppa?
[18:55] <elfh> Ezim, just uncheck  in software sources?
[18:55] <Ezim> elfh, no
[18:56] <elfh> Ezim, tell me then ;)
[18:56] <Ezim> elfh, you want the command line way or gui way?
[18:57] <elfh> gui
[18:57] <Ezim> elfh, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/y-ppa-manager
[18:57] <Ezim> sudo apt-get update
[18:58] <Ezim> sudo apt-get install y-ppa-manager
[18:58] <Ezim> done...
[18:58] <Ezim> now use y-ppa-manager
[19:00] <Ezim> elfh, with y-ppa-manager you can easily remove/add ppa
[19:00] <Ezim> and also many other usefull stuff
[19:02] <elfh> Ezim, some errors again The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:02] <elfh>  ardour : Depends: libjack-jackd2-0 (>= 1.9.5~dfsg-14) but it is not going to be installed or
[19:02] <elfh>                    libjack-0.116
[19:02] <elfh>  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good : Depends: libjack-jackd2-0 (>= 1.9.5~dfsg-14) but it is not going to be installed or
[19:02] <elfh>                                        libjack-0.116
[19:02] <elfh>  jackd2 : Depends: libjack-jackd2-0 (= 1.9.8~dfsg.2-1precise1) but it is not going to be installed
[19:02] <FloodBotK1> elfh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <elfh> Ezim, errors again: http://pastebin.com/ADbL7Mtp
[19:04] <elfh> btw, why removing from muon software sources is not enough?
[19:06] <Ezim> elfh, try :)..
[19:07] <elfh> Ezim, seems like that worked. it started installation
[19:09] <Ezim> elfh, nice nice
[19:11] <elfh> Ezim, it runs, thanks a lot!
[19:11] <Ezim> elfh, np.
[19:25] <JMichael|work> anyone else having issues with kde netbook interface being very crashy in 12.04?
[19:29] <Ezim> JMichael|work, have you looked for launchpad-bugs?
[19:31] <JMichael|work> Ezim: no i have not. i was just curious as to whether or not anyone here had encountered anything like this
[19:55] <JMichael|work> good god.... ubuntu's servers are STILL pathetically slow. are they ever going to fix this problem?
[19:56] <JMichael|work> installing KDE SC 4.8.3 right now... averaging 15kB/s down, on a GB network
[19:57] <JMichael|work> estimated time is 1h 15m
[20:06] <Ezim> JMichael|work, have you tried other mirror/server?
[20:06] <JMichael|work> Ezim: how do you do that with PPAs?
[20:07] <Ezim> JMichael|work, hehe... you mean kubuntu-backports?
[20:07] <JMichael|work> Exposure_: no, just the kubuntu PPA, in this case
[20:07] <danielo_> hey. I can You tell me how to share files throught nfs in 12.04
[20:07] <JMichael|work> Ezim: : no, just the kubuntu PPA, in this case
[20:08] <danielo_> not by samba but native linukx share native system
[20:09] <danielo_> so nfs or zero conf
[20:10] <danielo_> using rmb on folder I can share only by samba, but in earlier version was nfs to
[20:14] <BluesKaj> danielo_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[20:15] <gh0ul> Any special steps one has to take to get the ibus icons in systray under 12.04? Ibus seems to work, but I get no icon.
[20:15] <danielo_> thx
[20:30] <danielo_> to hard for me :P
[20:30] <danielo_> I will stay with samba :P
[20:31] <danielo_> I remeber that earier it was working out of box
[20:31] <danielo_> :P
[21:40] <petersaints> exit
[21:52] <ramon> hola estoy buscando alguien que hable español para conversar un rato
[21:53] <BluesKaj> !es | ramon
[22:43] <safridzal> help please, I cant add widget to my desktop anymore, but I can add widget to panel
[22:51] <safridzal> help please, I cant add widget to my desktop anymore, but I can add widget to panel
[22:54] <genii-around> In settings.. workspace behaviour ... virtual desktops ... Do you have Different Widgets for Each Desktop checked off?
[22:59] <safridzal> genii-around: its not checked
[23:00] <genii-around> safridzal: Please check it off and apply the change, then try to add a widget after that
[23:01] <safridzal> it works
[23:01] <safridzal> but i lost all my widget setting on my old desktop
[23:02] <safridzal> i just set 1 dekstop, how its possible ?
[23:03] <genii-around> safridzal: I'm not sure, sorry
[23:03] <safridzal> log off. brb
[23:08] <safridzal> genii-around: it works after reboot
[23:09] <safridzal> now i can add desktop widget
[23:09] <safridzal> thanks genii-around
[23:09] <safridzal> :D
[23:09] <genii-around> You're welcome
[23:56] <GH0> Does anyone know how to enable wake on lan on an Intel NIC through driver settings?
[23:56] <GH0> I know you can do it in Windows, but I am not aware of how to do it through Kubuntu and my google searching-fu was not enough.