| mfisch | oh god, I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out one of her bugs | 01:28 |
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| LordOfTime | mfisch: lol, this is why some people shouldnt have posting rights | 01:29 |
| mfisch | I'm not sure it's spammy enough, but I can ask launchpad to block her | 01:31 |
| mfisch | LordOfTime: you guys thing it's spammy enough to ask LP? | 01:34 |
| LordOfTime | mfisch: i have no say in the matter, regardless, that was an opinion | 01:34 |
| LordOfTime | anyone able to explain how DEP3 bug headers get added to a patch? | 02:10 |
| Guest63959 | hola | 02:24 |
| Guest63959 | hay alguien? | 02:24 |
| LordOfTime | english if you can | 02:24 |
| Guest63959 | ok, i'll try it :P | 02:25 |
| LordOfTime | what's up? | 02:25 |
| Guest63959 | so, can i report a bug here? | 02:25 |
| LordOfTime | nope | 02:25 |
| LordOfTime | !bugs | 02:25 |
| ubot2 | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 02:25 |
| LordOfTime | Guest63959: see that factoid | 02:25 |
| Guest63959 | ou | 02:30 |
| Guest63959 | i dont know in which package is the bug | 02:31 |
| Guest63959 | i just know which is the problem :P | 02:31 |
| Guest63959 | oh, i will read that in spanish, because maybe im wrong... | 02:33 |
| kroq-gar78 | Hello. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, I need to come here to ask a bug supervisor to nominate my bug for an SRU for Precise. Can you please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004370 for Precise? Thanks~ | 05:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1004370 in visualvm "[SRU] jvisualvm won't launch" [Undecided,In progress] | 05:54 |
| kroq-gar78 | Also, could you please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/937710 for Precise, too? They're in the same package and have a similar cause. Thanks! | 06:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 937710 in visualvm "[SRU] VisualVM does not start with openjdk 7" [Undecided,In progress] | 06:13 |
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| luc4_mac | LordOfTime: talking about 997767, I don't think it is an hardware issue anymore. Tonight I tried to boot in failsafe mode and network is still up and running. | 09:11 |
| luc4_mac | LordOfTime: I'll continue to run this test anyway. Might be just a coincidence. | 09:12 |
| veger | Could someone set the importance of bug #432369 to wishlist? | 11:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 432369 in network-manager "Too many network OSD notifications when resuming from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432369 | 11:04 |
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| csilk | Hi, I just submitted some terribly vague bugs to launchpad | 12:27 |
| csilk | I need to identify what packages are at fault here | 12:27 |
| csilk | Anyone willing to help out? | 12:28 |
| csilk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1005150 | 12:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1005150 in ubuntu "Borders, tabs and general UI separators are too big" [Undecided,New] | 12:28 |
| csilk | I know it's vague but I think the issue generally needs to be raised | 12:28 |
| wylde | csilk: see my reply in #ubuntu heh | 12:37 |
| csilk | wylde, just replied hhaha | 12:38 |
| wylde | lol yeah I saw. | 12:38 |
| wylde | csilk: you may have better chance of getting noticed on one of the mailing lists. Moment. | 12:39 |
| wylde | csilk: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists <--- probably ubuntu-desktop or similar mailing lists would be appropriate. | 12:39 |
| wylde | or maybe even on the forums. | 12:41 |
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| csilk | wylde, does anybody that matters look at the forums in the same way they would look at the mailing list? | 12:44 |
| wylde | csilk: personally, I'd hit the mailing list, although posting on the forums should still get some views and it will stay as a long term item that will still be around after your post to mailing list is gone. :) | 12:45 |
| csilk | I'll probably do both | 12:46 |
| wylde | csilk: you could 1.) Post to the forum 2.) link to your forum post in your post to the mailing list? | 12:46 |
| csilk | Could do | 12:46 |
| csilk | It's sad that I have to think of the best way to not get ignored | 12:46 |
| csilk | I need to make shuttleworth sit down at my machine and try to work with Eclipse to get him to realise how shitty everything is | 12:47 |
| wylde | csilk: it's not that you'd get ignored. Odds are much better this way to have your thoughts considered. Since the bug report, is technically not a bug. | 12:47 |
| csilk | I walked past the canonical offices in London yesterday. Might stage a one day protest to get publicity :p | 12:48 |
| wylde | lol | 12:48 |
| penguin42 | csilk: I suggest you try adding a screenshot marked up showing what could be changed while making it better | 12:53 |
| penguin42 | csilk: Or even better try tweeking the theme and show that it would be better - my guess is that the UI components are following the current trend to make everything large enough that they can be used by a vaguely prodded thumb on a touchscreen | 12:54 |
| wylde | that is exactly the impression I get from the default unity desktop. | 12:55 |
| csilk | penguin42, I wish I had the ability to fix the mess. I would just do it and make a patch set available. Screenshotting and talking about all the issues would take a big chunk of time which I don't have at the moment but I did plan to actually sit down for two hours and write everything up | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | csilk: OK, when you do add it to the bug - I suspect the bug will probably get bounced unless you point to specifics | 12:56 |
| csilk | I'm going to screen shot the differences in OXS and Unity to highlight how Unity is just too bulky to be used for serious work on any normal display | 12:56 |
| penguin42 | everything seems to be going that way at the moment; at least google added the 'compact' mode to their interfaces again | 12:57 |
| veger | Could someone set the importance of bug #432369 to wishlist? | 13:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 432369 in network-manager "Too many network OSD notifications when resuming from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432369 | 13:57 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: sorry to bother you, referring to 997767 I added a new important information. Do you think I can do something else to help? | 14:14 |
| njin | RedSingularity: are you in ? | 14:31 |
| njin | hggdh:ping | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | bug 997767 | 14:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 997767 in linux "Network connection is lost after some hours of inactivity and comes up again on user interaction" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997767 | 14:45 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: Interesting that the failsafe mode stops it shutting down - not sure why though; the trick to fixing it is going to be figuring out what (other than the network being down!) is different when it is | 14:48 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: should I try to enable services one by one and see what causes the problem? | 15:00 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: I was just about to add a question - is it the wifi or the wired that's dropping off? | 15:14 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: wired | 15:15 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: Is it possible for you to try the wifi as well? | 15:15 |
| penguin42 | I'm just trying to figure out if it's something specific to the particular device | 15:15 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: I don't have wifi available at all. | 15:15 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: only two ethernet interfaces. | 15:15 |
| penguin42 | fair enough | 15:16 |
| penguin42 | hang on - do you mean that you think you should have wifi but it doesn't work or that you really do have two ethernets ? | 15:16 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: no no, no wifi adapter. I've always had eth0 and eth1. From that point of view, nothing changed. | 15:17 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: what is suspect is that after upgrading to 12.04, the network interface I've always been using didn't sense the network anymore, and I had to switch to the other. | 15:19 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: OK, it's just that your dmesg shows 'AR928X Wireless Network Adapter' | 15:19 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: mmh… that is new to me... | 15:19 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: And it shows up in the ifconfig and the iwconfig.txt attached to there | 15:20 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: oh my god… that must be a mistake... | 15:20 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: Actually, no it just shows up in the iwconfig - not in the ifconfig | 15:21 |
| penguin42 | it's a bit confusing because you're latest stuff shows eth0/wlan0 but you're repeated ifconfig shows eth0/eth1 | 15:22 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: yes, it is embarassing… I made a mistake I guess... | 15:23 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: Well - did you? | 15:23 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: I think I ran apport on the wrong system yesterday. Can I fix that mistake? | 15:24 |
| penguin42 | haha :-) | 15:24 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: ah yes… I guess I did it… :-( | 15:24 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: OK, so add a comment that you did, then I think if you run the apport collect again on the right system it has a chance | 15:24 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: aahhh… I'm so sorry... | 15:25 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: If it doesn't, just file another bug and we'll kill that one off | 15:25 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: let me fix my mistake, really sorry... | 15:26 |
| penguin42 | hey, it happens | 15:26 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: anyway, the fact about failsafe is correct. Failsafe makes it work. | 15:27 |
| penguin42 | lots of things change in failsafe - now it's just a matter of figuring out which one is the problem | 15:28 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: ok, I think it worked, but I think it is not possible to remove the other files collected to avoid confusion right? | 15:37 |
| penguin42 | I'm not aware of a way | 15:37 |
| luc4_mac | Ok, I'll add a comment explaining what happened. | 15:39 |
| luc4_mac | penguin42: when I'm at the login screen I see a failsafe option. I remember I used that once to turn off X server. Am I wrong? | 15:46 |
| penguin42 | luc4_mac: I thought that's a different failsafe - the one at the login prompt is normally if there is a problem in your gnome config or dot files; that's very different from the one at boot time | 15:56 |
| blueyed | Can somebody please try to reproduce/confirm bug 1004947? | 17:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1004947 in apt ""apt-cache search" is slow because of listing /var/lib/apt/lists 45227 times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004947 | 17:45 |
| blueyed | There is a test case, which you just need to copy/paste/execute. | 17:45 |
| Daekdroom | I'll test it once the page loads. | 17:52 |
| Daekdroom | Confirmed. | 17:54 |
| Daekdroom | Wait, what? | 17:54 |
| Daekdroom | Hm. | 17:54 |
| Daekdroom | It returned '1' | 17:55 |
| blueyed | Daekdroom: thanks, good to know. Then it is something on my system/setup that triggers it. | 19:09 |
| hggdh | blueyed: also on mine, one single open. | 20:39 |
| penguin42 | oh that's a fun bug - I wonder what % of the time it takes | 20:48 |
| hggdh | I was curious also on that | 20:50 |
| penguin42 | still, it would be better if it didn't do that, I wonder if it's a trade off v the amount of memory it uses | 20:50 |
| hggdh | the problem is it did not do it (in my case)... | 20:52 |
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| blueyed | penguin42: interesting idea.. but I really cannot think of why it would be better to list a directory such often than to just remember its contents once. | 23:19 |
| blueyed | I think a code investigation is in order here, but it would be far easier for somebody who knows apt's internals already. | 23:19 |
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