mfischoh god, I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out one of her bugs01:28
LordOfTimemfisch:  lol, this is why some people shouldnt have posting rights01:29
mfischI'm not sure it's spammy enough, but I can ask launchpad to block her01:31
mfischLordOfTime: you guys thing it's spammy enough to ask LP?01:34
LordOfTimemfisch:  i have no say in the matter, regardless, that was an opinion01:34
LordOfTimeanyone able to explain how DEP3 bug headers get added to a patch?02:10
Guest63959hay alguien?02:24
LordOfTimeenglish if you can02:24
Guest63959ok, i'll try it :P02:25
LordOfTimewhat's up?02:25
Guest63959so, can i report a bug here?02:25
ubot2If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:25
LordOfTimeGuest63959:  see that factoid02:25
Guest63959i dont know in which package is the bug02:31
Guest63959i just know which is the problem :P02:31
Guest63959oh, i will read that in spanish, because maybe im wrong...02:33
kroq-gar78Hello. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, I need to come here to ask a bug supervisor to nominate my bug for an SRU for Precise. Can you please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004370 for Precise? Thanks~05:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 1004370 in visualvm "[SRU] jvisualvm won't launch" [Undecided,In progress]05:54
kroq-gar78Also, could you please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/937710 for Precise, too? They're in the same package and have a similar cause. Thanks!06:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 937710 in visualvm "[SRU] VisualVM does not start with openjdk 7" [Undecided,In progress]06:13
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luc4_macLordOfTime: talking about 997767, I don't think it is an hardware issue anymore. Tonight I tried to boot in failsafe mode and network is still up and running.09:11
luc4_macLordOfTime: I'll continue to run this test anyway. Might be just a coincidence.09:12
vegerCould someone set the importance of bug #432369 to wishlist?11:04
ubot2Launchpad bug 432369 in network-manager "Too many network OSD notifications when resuming from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43236911:04
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csilkHi, I just submitted some terribly vague bugs to launchpad12:27
csilkI need to identify what packages are at fault here12:27
csilkAnyone willing to help out?12:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 1005150 in ubuntu "Borders, tabs and general UI separators are too big" [Undecided,New]12:28
csilkI know it's vague but I think the issue generally needs to be raised12:28
wyldecsilk: see my reply in #ubuntu heh12:37
csilkwylde, just replied hhaha12:38
wyldelol yeah I saw.12:38
wyldecsilk:  you may have better chance of getting noticed on one of the mailing lists. Moment.12:39
wyldecsilk: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists <--- probably ubuntu-desktop or similar mailing lists would be appropriate.12:39
wyldeor maybe even on the forums.12:41
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csilkwylde, does anybody that matters look at the forums in the same way they would look at the mailing list?12:44
wyldecsilk: personally, I'd hit the mailing list, although posting on the forums should still get some views and it will stay as a long term item that will still be around after your post to mailing list is gone. :)12:45
csilkI'll probably do both12:46
wyldecsilk: you could 1.) Post to the forum 2.) link to your forum post in your post to the mailing list?12:46
csilkCould do12:46
csilkIt's sad that I have to think of the best way to not get ignored12:46
csilkI need to make shuttleworth sit down at my machine and try to work with Eclipse to get him to realise how shitty everything is12:47
wyldecsilk: it's not that you'd get ignored. Odds are much better this way to have your thoughts considered. Since the bug report, is technically not a bug.12:47
csilkI walked past the canonical offices in London yesterday. Might stage a one day protest to get publicity :p12:48
penguin42csilk: I suggest you try adding a screenshot marked up showing what could be changed while making it better12:53
penguin42csilk: Or even better try tweeking the theme and show that it would be better - my guess is that the UI components are following the current trend to make everything large enough that they can be used by a vaguely prodded thumb on a touchscreen12:54
wyldethat is exactly the impression I get from the default unity desktop.12:55
csilkpenguin42, I wish I had the ability to fix the mess. I would just do it and make a patch set available. Screenshotting and talking about all the issues would take a big chunk of time which I don't have at the moment but I did plan to actually sit down for two hours and write everything up12:55
penguin42csilk: OK, when you do add it to the bug - I suspect the bug will probably get bounced unless you point to specifics12:56
csilkI'm going to screen shot the differences in OXS and Unity to highlight how Unity is just too bulky to be used for serious work on any normal display12:56
penguin42everything seems to be going that way at the moment; at least google added the 'compact' mode to their interfaces again12:57
vegerCould someone set the importance of bug #432369 to wishlist?13:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 432369 in network-manager "Too many network OSD notifications when resuming from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43236913:57
luc4_macpenguin42: sorry to bother you, referring to 997767 I added a new important information. Do you think I can do something else to help?14:14
njinRedSingularity: are you in ?14:31
penguin42bug 99776714:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 997767 in linux "Network connection is lost after some hours of inactivity and comes up again on user interaction" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99776714:45
penguin42luc4_mac: Interesting that the failsafe mode stops it shutting down - not sure why though; the trick to fixing it is going to be figuring out what (other than the network being down!) is different when it is14:48
luc4_macpenguin42: should I try to enable services one by one and see what causes the problem?15:00
penguin42luc4_mac: I was just about to add a question - is it the wifi or the wired that's dropping off?15:14
luc4_macpenguin42: wired15:15
penguin42luc4_mac: Is it possible for you to try the wifi as well?15:15
penguin42I'm just trying to figure out if it's something specific to the particular device15:15
luc4_macpenguin42: I don't have wifi available at all.15:15
luc4_macpenguin42: only two ethernet interfaces.15:15
penguin42fair enough15:16
penguin42hang on - do you mean that you think you should have wifi but it doesn't work or that you really do have two ethernets ?15:16
luc4_macpenguin42: no no, no wifi adapter. I've always had eth0 and eth1. From that point of view, nothing changed.15:17
luc4_macpenguin42: what is suspect is that after upgrading to 12.04, the network interface I've always been using didn't sense the network anymore, and I had to switch to the other.15:19
penguin42luc4_mac: OK, it's just that your dmesg shows 'AR928X Wireless Network Adapter'15:19
luc4_macpenguin42: mmh… that is new to me...15:19
penguin42luc4_mac: And it shows up in the ifconfig and the iwconfig.txt attached to there15:20
luc4_macpenguin42: oh my god… that must be a mistake...15:20
penguin42luc4_mac: Actually, no it just shows up in the iwconfig - not in the ifconfig15:21
penguin42it's a bit confusing because you're latest stuff shows eth0/wlan0   but you're repeated ifconfig shows eth0/eth115:22
luc4_macpenguin42: yes, it is embarassing… I made a mistake I guess...15:23
penguin42luc4_mac: Well - did you?15:23
luc4_macpenguin42: I think I ran apport on the wrong system yesterday. Can I fix that mistake?15:24
penguin42haha :-)15:24
luc4_macpenguin42: ah yes… I guess I did it… :-(15:24
penguin42luc4_mac: OK, so add a comment that you did, then I think if you run the apport collect again on the right system it has a chance15:24
luc4_macpenguin42: aahhh… I'm so sorry...15:25
penguin42luc4_mac: If it doesn't, just file another bug and we'll kill that one off15:25
luc4_macpenguin42: let me fix my mistake, really sorry...15:26
penguin42hey, it happens15:26
luc4_macpenguin42: anyway, the fact about failsafe is correct. Failsafe makes it work.15:27
penguin42lots of things change in failsafe - now it's just a matter of figuring out which one is the problem15:28
luc4_macpenguin42: ok, I think it worked, but I think it is not possible to remove the other files collected to avoid confusion right?15:37
penguin42I'm not aware of a way15:37
luc4_macOk, I'll add a comment explaining what happened.15:39
luc4_macpenguin42: when I'm at the login screen I see a failsafe option. I remember I used that once to turn off X server. Am I wrong?15:46
penguin42luc4_mac: I thought that's a different failsafe - the one at the login prompt is normally if there is a problem in your gnome config or dot files; that's very different from the one at boot time15:56
blueyedCan somebody please try to reproduce/confirm bug 1004947?17:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 1004947 in apt ""apt-cache search" is slow because of listing /var/lib/apt/lists 45227 times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100494717:45
blueyedThere is a test case, which you just need to copy/paste/execute.17:45
DaekdroomI'll test it once the page loads.17:52
DaekdroomWait, what?17:54
DaekdroomIt returned '1'17:55
blueyedDaekdroom: thanks, good to know. Then it is something on my system/setup that triggers it.19:09
hggdhblueyed: also on mine, one single open.20:39
penguin42oh that's a fun bug - I wonder what % of the time it takes20:48
hggdhI was curious also on that20:50
penguin42still, it would be better if it didn't do that, I wonder if it's a trade off v the amount of memory it uses20:50
hggdhthe problem is it did not do it (in my case)...20:52
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blueyedpenguin42: interesting idea.. but I really cannot think of why it would be better to list a directory such often than to just remember its contents once.23:19
blueyedI think a code investigation is in order here, but it would be far easier for somebody who knows apt's internals already.23:19

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