[01:28] oh god, I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out one of her bugs [01:29] mfisch: lol, this is why some people shouldnt have posting rights [01:31] I'm not sure it's spammy enough, but I can ask launchpad to block her [01:34] LordOfTime: you guys thing it's spammy enough to ask LP? [01:34] mfisch: i have no say in the matter, regardless, that was an opinion [02:10] anyone able to explain how DEP3 bug headers get added to a patch? [02:24] hola [02:24] hay alguien? [02:24] english if you can [02:25] ok, i'll try it :P [02:25] what's up? [02:25] so, can i report a bug here? [02:25] nope [02:25] !bugs [02:25] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [02:25] Guest63959: see that factoid [02:30] ou [02:31] i dont know in which package is the bug [02:31] i just know which is the problem :P [02:33] oh, i will read that in spanish, because maybe im wrong... [05:54] Hello. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, I need to come here to ask a bug supervisor to nominate my bug for an SRU for Precise. Can you please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004370 for Precise? Thanks~ [05:54] Launchpad bug 1004370 in visualvm "[SRU] jvisualvm won't launch" [Undecided,In progress] [06:13] Also, could you please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/937710 for Precise, too? They're in the same package and have a similar cause. Thanks! [06:13] Launchpad bug 937710 in visualvm "[SRU] VisualVM does not start with openjdk 7" [Undecided,In progress] === ashams is now known as Guest59534 [09:11] LordOfTime: talking about 997767, I don't think it is an hardware issue anymore. Tonight I tried to boot in failsafe mode and network is still up and running. [09:12] LordOfTime: I'll continue to run this test anyway. Might be just a coincidence. [11:04] Could someone set the importance of bug #432369 to wishlist? [11:04] Launchpad bug 432369 in network-manager "Too many network OSD notifications when resuming from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432369 === Pici is now known as Guest55695 [12:27] Hi, I just submitted some terribly vague bugs to launchpad [12:27] I need to identify what packages are at fault here [12:28] Anyone willing to help out? [12:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1005150 [12:28] Launchpad bug 1005150 in ubuntu "Borders, tabs and general UI separators are too big" [Undecided,New] [12:28] I know it's vague but I think the issue generally needs to be raised [12:37] csilk: see my reply in #ubuntu heh [12:38] wylde, just replied hhaha [12:38] lol yeah I saw. [12:39] csilk: you may have better chance of getting noticed on one of the mailing lists. Moment. [12:39] csilk: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists <--- probably ubuntu-desktop or similar mailing lists would be appropriate. [12:41] or maybe even on the forums. === mythos_ is now known as mythos [12:44] wylde, does anybody that matters look at the forums in the same way they would look at the mailing list? [12:45] csilk: personally, I'd hit the mailing list, although posting on the forums should still get some views and it will stay as a long term item that will still be around after your post to mailing list is gone. :) [12:46] I'll probably do both [12:46] csilk: you could 1.) Post to the forum 2.) link to your forum post in your post to the mailing list? [12:46] Could do [12:46] It's sad that I have to think of the best way to not get ignored [12:47] I need to make shuttleworth sit down at my machine and try to work with Eclipse to get him to realise how shitty everything is [12:47] csilk: it's not that you'd get ignored. Odds are much better this way to have your thoughts considered. Since the bug report, is technically not a bug. [12:48] I walked past the canonical offices in London yesterday. Might stage a one day protest to get publicity :p [12:48] lol [12:53] csilk: I suggest you try adding a screenshot marked up showing what could be changed while making it better [12:54] csilk: Or even better try tweeking the theme and show that it would be better - my guess is that the UI components are following the current trend to make everything large enough that they can be used by a vaguely prodded thumb on a touchscreen [12:55] that is exactly the impression I get from the default unity desktop. [12:55] penguin42, I wish I had the ability to fix the mess. I would just do it and make a patch set available. Screenshotting and talking about all the issues would take a big chunk of time which I don't have at the moment but I did plan to actually sit down for two hours and write everything up [12:56] csilk: OK, when you do add it to the bug - I suspect the bug will probably get bounced unless you point to specifics [12:56] I'm going to screen shot the differences in OXS and Unity to highlight how Unity is just too bulky to be used for serious work on any normal display [12:57] everything seems to be going that way at the moment; at least google added the 'compact' mode to their interfaces again [13:57] Could someone set the importance of bug #432369 to wishlist? [13:57] Launchpad bug 432369 in network-manager "Too many network OSD notifications when resuming from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432369 [14:14] penguin42: sorry to bother you, referring to 997767 I added a new important information. Do you think I can do something else to help? [14:31] RedSingularity: are you in ? [14:32] hggdh:ping [14:45] bug 997767 [14:45] Launchpad bug 997767 in linux "Network connection is lost after some hours of inactivity and comes up again on user interaction" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997767 [14:48] luc4_mac: Interesting that the failsafe mode stops it shutting down - not sure why though; the trick to fixing it is going to be figuring out what (other than the network being down!) is different when it is [15:00] penguin42: should I try to enable services one by one and see what causes the problem? [15:14] luc4_mac: I was just about to add a question - is it the wifi or the wired that's dropping off? [15:15] penguin42: wired [15:15] luc4_mac: Is it possible for you to try the wifi as well? [15:15] I'm just trying to figure out if it's something specific to the particular device [15:15] penguin42: I don't have wifi available at all. [15:15] penguin42: only two ethernet interfaces. [15:16] fair enough [15:16] hang on - do you mean that you think you should have wifi but it doesn't work or that you really do have two ethernets ? [15:17] penguin42: no no, no wifi adapter. I've always had eth0 and eth1. From that point of view, nothing changed. [15:19] penguin42: what is suspect is that after upgrading to 12.04, the network interface I've always been using didn't sense the network anymore, and I had to switch to the other. [15:19] luc4_mac: OK, it's just that your dmesg shows 'AR928X Wireless Network Adapter' [15:19] penguin42: mmh… that is new to me... [15:20] luc4_mac: And it shows up in the ifconfig and the iwconfig.txt attached to there [15:20] penguin42: oh my god… that must be a mistake... [15:21] luc4_mac: Actually, no it just shows up in the iwconfig - not in the ifconfig [15:22] it's a bit confusing because you're latest stuff shows eth0/wlan0 but you're repeated ifconfig shows eth0/eth1 [15:23] penguin42: yes, it is embarassing… I made a mistake I guess... [15:23] luc4_mac: Well - did you? [15:24] penguin42: I think I ran apport on the wrong system yesterday. Can I fix that mistake? [15:24] haha :-) [15:24] penguin42: ah yes… I guess I did it… :-( [15:24] luc4_mac: OK, so add a comment that you did, then I think if you run the apport collect again on the right system it has a chance [15:25] penguin42: aahhh… I'm so sorry... [15:25] luc4_mac: If it doesn't, just file another bug and we'll kill that one off [15:26] penguin42: let me fix my mistake, really sorry... [15:26] hey, it happens [15:27] penguin42: anyway, the fact about failsafe is correct. Failsafe makes it work. [15:28] lots of things change in failsafe - now it's just a matter of figuring out which one is the problem [15:37] penguin42: ok, I think it worked, but I think it is not possible to remove the other files collected to avoid confusion right? [15:37] I'm not aware of a way [15:39] Ok, I'll add a comment explaining what happened. [15:46] penguin42: when I'm at the login screen I see a failsafe option. I remember I used that once to turn off X server. Am I wrong? [15:56] luc4_mac: I thought that's a different failsafe - the one at the login prompt is normally if there is a problem in your gnome config or dot files; that's very different from the one at boot time [17:45] Can somebody please try to reproduce/confirm bug 1004947? [17:45] Launchpad bug 1004947 in apt ""apt-cache search" is slow because of listing /var/lib/apt/lists 45227 times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004947 [17:45] There is a test case, which you just need to copy/paste/execute. [17:52] I'll test it once the page loads. [17:54] Confirmed. [17:54] Wait, what? [17:54] Hm. [17:55] It returned '1' [19:09] Daekdroom: thanks, good to know. Then it is something on my system/setup that triggers it. [20:39] blueyed: also on mine, one single open. [20:48] oh that's a fun bug - I wonder what % of the time it takes [20:50] I was curious also on that [20:50] still, it would be better if it didn't do that, I wonder if it's a trade off v the amount of memory it uses [20:52] the problem is it did not do it (in my case)... === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:19] penguin42: interesting idea.. but I really cannot think of why it would be better to list a directory such often than to just remember its contents once. [23:19] I think a code investigation is in order here, but it would be far easier for somebody who knows apt's internals already.