| ev | so dh v9 tries to execute .maintscript files if they're +x. Bug or the packager should know better? | 12:07 |
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| xnox | ev: packager should know better, it's documented behaviour. | 12:23 |
| ev | this whole needing a separate degree to distribute an application thing will never catch on :) | 12:25 |
| antarus | thats just what developers who don't understand how complex packaging is would say ;p | 12:26 |
| ev | it doesn't need to be complex | 12:26 |
| ev | it shouldn't be complex | 12:26 |
| antarus | heh | 12:26 |
| antarus | I agree the interfaces are poor | 12:26 |
| antarus | but it is inherently complex | 12:26 |
| ev | but yes, the complexity is baked in. "Hey, here's a root shell. Have fun!" | 12:26 |
| ev | indeed | 12:26 |
| antarus | you could say the same thing about most programming though ;p | 12:27 |
| ev | sure - but programming is hard enough. Lets not layer complexity on top of that :) | 12:27 |
| antarus | (if you are distributing a simple applicatoin I would argue that packaging is fairly trivial) | 12:27 |
| antarus | at work you can basically in your 'makefile' just write "builddeb(name, version, release, owner, depends=[foo, bar,baz]) | 12:28 |
| antarus | and the system will build you a deb of your code | 12:28 |
| antarus | now you can't do anything complex with it (conffiles, alternatives, etc..) | 12:28 |
| antarus | because its hard to make a simple interface for that ;p | 12:28 |
| xnox | ev: imho it's better than a single monolithic file with pseudo shell functions and requirement to explicitely list every single file & folder that will be 'owned' by the package... (rpm) | 12:32 |
| antarus | real packages use ebuilds anyway | 12:33 |
| antarus | ;p | 12:33 |
| silvos | hi, are you talking about how simple (or not) building ubiquity or just packaging? (having problem to compile and run it here) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009633/ | 12:42 |
| silvos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009648/ config.log | 12:45 |
| xnox | silvos: ./debian/rules update-local | 12:55 |
| xnox | silvos: fakeroot ./debian/rules binary | 12:55 |
| xnox | done | 12:55 |
| * xnox ubiquity is a non-standard package, because it includes bits and pieces of other packages | 12:56 | |
| silvos | thanks xnox | 13:05 |
| silvos | I thinks its fails again, I changed value in .po to be sure, and when I run ubiquity its runs ubiquity from the apt-get install one with old .po value. | 13:06 |
| silvos | I feel I don't understannd every thing | 13:06 |
| cm-t | Hi | 13:24 |
| cm-t | I followed same as silvos but I fail to run ubiquity, and I don't find many information on compiling it. | 13:26 |
| silvos | I might forgot some step, is there a wiki page or something like that explainning the compilation ? | 13:27 |
| xnox | silvos: after fakeroot ./debian/rules binary | 13:41 |
| xnox | $ sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb | 13:41 |
| xnox | to install newly compiled ubiquity | 13:41 |
| xnox | then run it. | 13:41 |
| silvos | well, I don't have .deb because of error, I'm trying to understand them | 14:08 |
| silvos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009761/ if ever | 14:32 |
| xnox | silvos: did you run: fakeroot ./debian/rules binary | 14:33 |
| xnox | or just ./debia/rules build | 14:33 |
| xnox | ? | 14:33 |
| xnox | binary will give you actuall debs to install | 14:33 |
| silvos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009761/ is the result of fakeroot ./debian/rules binary >> bin.txt | 14:34 |
| silvos | hum | 14:36 |
| silvos | i should use the error output | 14:36 |
| xnox | yes, please. that does look incomplete | 14:36 |
| xnox | lp:ubiquity currently can only be build on quantal, because it has been ported to python3 and a couple of dependenies are not in precise | 14:37 |
| xnox | if you want precise's ubiquity get it with $ apt-get source ubiquity | 14:37 |
| xnox | or there should be a precise branch. | 14:37 |
| cm-t | oh | 14:38 |
| silvos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009777/ | 14:46 |
| silvos | ( fakeroot ./debian/rules binary &> bin.txt ) | 14:47 |
| CIA-62 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1698 ubuntu/ (build/pkg-lists/gtk-common debian/changelog): ttf-freefont-udeb was renamed to fonts-freefont-udeb. | 22:23 |
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