hamitronis there a way to change the order of icons on the left bar in unity?00:36
hamitronfound it00:57
hamitrondrag the side bit of the icon does it00:58
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AlanBellmorning all05:12
Azelphurmorning :p05:40
Azelphursomeone needs to make it not be so hot05:40
Azelphurhttp://gprime.net/video.php/kill9 :D06:05
Azelphurmorning :)06:24
popeyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/135818/the-size-of-apt-get-update-lists-is-too-big is interesting06:31
popeyfor me an apt-get update is ~20MB06:31
MartijnVdSDebian uses diffs to make updates smaller06:55
AzelphurMartijnVdS: do they do it for packages too or just the lists?07:00
MartijnVdSjust the lists07:02
AzelphurI see07:03
MartijnVdS$isp now gives me a free upgrade to Spotify Premium07:10
AzelphurMartijnVdS: nice07:12
MartijnVdSnow to find some music I don't already have :P07:12
popeyi wrote a script to save spoify tracks as wav files on my local machine whilst I'm listening to them. Handy when I want to play them when on machines that don't have that app07:23
* popey boggles at http://www.cityinkexpress.co.uk (via Dave2)07:24
popeyi had no idea you could do such a thing let alone people sell them for most printers07:25
popeygood if you print a lot of pictures I guess07:25
Azelphurah yea I saw these a while ago, my dad always used to manually refill his cartridges with bottles of ink07:26
MartijnVdSpopey: at-home refill kits, you mean?07:26
popeythese have pipes that run to the cartidges07:27
popeyfrom an external resovior07:27
Azelphuryea, the thing popey linked will run your printer forever and you just drop in new bottles of ink07:27
Azelphurprobably the way it should be in all printers by default, really :)07:27
MartijnVdSIt sounds like something for rich people07:28
popeylooks like a little bit of faff to install it, but once done you're sorted07:28
MartijnVdSwith the prices of ink being what they are07:28
AzelphurMartijnVdS: opposite, bottles of ink are cheap, cartridges are expensive07:28
popeynah, they're stupid cheap07:29
popeyand you transfer the chip from an existing cartidge so they dont commit suicide like normal ones do07:29
popeyor something ☺07:29
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QP_RnOYhGw&list=UUdeWZ--ehN5ogld7cJaYhEw&index=3&feature=plcp shows moving the chip07:30
MartijnVdSglad I have a laser printer :P07:44
MartijnVdSToner cartridges last ages07:44
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:31
jacobwguten morgen brobostigon08:48
brobostigonmoin jacobw08:48
* MartijnVdS plays the Doctor Who PS3 game09:09
MartijnVdSit's a puzzle/platform game09:09
dwatkinsis it any good, MartijnVdS?09:09
MartijnVdSit's punny, at least ;)09:16
MartijnVdSI haven't played enough to get the story started09:16
MartijnVdSooh cybermen09:19
MartijnVdSand collectible hats 8-)09:21
dwatkinsthat reminds me, I need a fez09:36
SuperEngineerRaspberry Pi on TV ch4 now09:38
dwatkinscheers SuperEngineer09:40
directhexfez is okay09:46
directhexbut in the recent digital download game stakes, it's not in the same league as journey on ps309:46
dwatkinsyeah, journey is next on my list09:48
bigcalmGood morning peepies :)10:04
brobostigongood morning bigcalm :)10:04
bigcalmHow's brobostigon this sunny Sunday?10:05
MartijnVdSf1 in an hour10:06
brobostigonbigcalm: could be better, this heat is affecting my eczema. and you?10:06
bigcalmMine seems to be behaving right now :)10:07
brobostigonbigcalm: :)10:09
bigcalmI really should be packing for our holiday that starts in 6 hours :S10:10
SuperEngineerbfn folkies... I'm off to [virtual] Monaco --- it's Grand Prix time [Live coverage 1205-1530, BBC1]11:09
* penguin42 yaaawwwnnns11:15
jacobwutc is better than bst and cest12:07
directhexjacobw, Swatch Beat Time is better than UTC!12:33
popeyAfternoon all, lovely day.13:52
Azelphurtoo hot D:13:53
DJonesAzelphur: It can never be too hot13:59
AzelphurDJones: it can be for bitcoin miners :(13:59
DJonesHeh, you'll have to put some of your gains to work with an air con unit14:00
Azelphurgot one, it's running flat out today14:00
Azelphurunfortunately the rig heats the walls up which in turn heats my room up, where there is no AC D:14:01
DJonesI just took the dog for a walk, decided to take him out in the woods so we'd be in the shade for most of it14:01
ali1234t's only 27C today, yesterday it was 29C14:01
ali1234there's a breeze too14:02
DJonesWe had a breeze yesterday as well, it was quite comfortable sitting outside with a beer and a BBQ14:03
ali1234my neighbours are finally cutting their 2 foot tall grass14:04
DJonesOur neighbours are like that, we've been in the house 9 years, I've only seen them cut the grass twice in that time and despite having 2 children, they never use the garden, they've never sat out in it, had a bbq, played in it, seems a bit of a waste14:05
directhexbitcoin is still profitable?14:06
Azelphurdirecthex: hell yes :)14:07
Azelphur\o/ found a bug in google http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/May/est%20time%20-%20Google%20Search-153638.png15:02
MartijnVdSAzelphur: lies! :)15:06
MartijnVdS\o/ PI!16:50
funkyHatI got an email on Thursday saying mine has been shipped!17:03
MartijnVdSI got my "shipped" mail on tuesday17:03
MartijnVdSbut no tracking code17:03
* brobostigon blows raspberry's at everyone.17:03
MartijnVdSbut I still got it!17:03
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: evening :)17:03
funkyHatOnly problem is I had them deliver it to my parents' house, but I'm going back to my house in London tonight -_-17:03
funkyHatMartijnVdS: you got it today?17:04
MartijnVdSfunkyHat: yesterday actually17:04
MartijnVdSbut I hadn't bothered to check my mailbox yet17:04
funkyHatNice, so mine should arrive in a couple of days17:04
brobostigonMartijnVdS: evening :)17:04
MartijnVdSfunkyHat: I'm in .nl, that might skew the delivery time :)17:04
funkyHatAh right17:04
MartijnVdSbut it seems to have been shipped from the UK (Royal Mail, Farnell)17:05
MartijnVdSfunkyHat: are you far up north maybe?17:05
funkyHatMartijnVdS: no, Northampton17:05
MartijnVdSwhere it's harsh and unforgiving, and mail trucks only come once a fortnight17:05
MartijnVdSfunkyHat: so you're a bit north :P17:06
MartijnVdSwell mid17:06
funkyHatI'm told that "north" is anything north of the Watford Gap. So Northampton is not north, but only just17:07
MartijnVdSfunkyHat: Google Maps brings me to the same location for Northampton and Watford Gap17:08
funkyHatMartijnVdS: did you get a tshirt?17:16
jacobwi've met americans who consider birmingham to be in the north17:18
jacobwit's crazy17:18
MartijnVdSfunkyHat: no17:22
directhexanything north of birmingham is scotland.17:33
directhexexcept for the bits north of leeds, which are scandinavia17:34
MartijnVdSdirecthex: and then there's Shetland17:34
DJoneshmmh, that makes me scottish then17:34
directhexisn't that an arctic ice floe?17:34
MartijnVdSdirecthex: Faroe17:35
directhexisn't that an arctic ice floe?17:35
* penguin42 puts on his finest Mancunian-Scottish accent for directhex17:37
michael__Hello all - could someone please help with VPN?  Ive set one up to connect to where I work, used the same settings as those on my works laptop (which uses windows xp) though cant seem to find 'how' to connect to the VPN - its not listed under places >  Network.  Am I doing something wrong?19:38
MartijnVdSmichael__: what kind of vpn is it?19:40
MartijnVdSmichael__: openvpn? Cisco? ...?19:41
michael__Oh Ive no idea19:41
MartijnVdSthen how did you set it up?19:41
michael__just went to where my wifi bars sit on the top of the screen, clicked it, went down to vpn connections and selected 'configure vpn'19:42
michael__(im using ubuntu 11.04 by the way)19:42
MartijnVdSmichael__: if you do "apt-cache search network manager vpn gnome" in a terminal, it'll show you all VPN clients/technologies supported by the GUI (install the relevant package)19:42
dwatkinsyou probably need to know the hostname of the end-point, michael__ - you may also have to authorise the client machine19:42
MartijnVdSit'll be added to the list of VPN technologies you get when you click "Add" in the networks dialog19:43
michael__Openvpm is in that list of stuff I just got listed19:44
michael__openvpn-gnome to be precise19:45
michael__but nothing else I recognise19:45
michael__just get this (sorry, should use paste bin I know but its only a small bit...) network-manager-pptp-gnome - network management framework (PPTP plugin, GNOME UI)19:46
michael__network-manager-openconnect-gnome - network management framework (Openconnect plugin, GNOME UI)19:46
michael__network-manager-openvpn-gnome - network management framework (OpenVPN plugin, GNOME UI)19:46
michael__network-manager-vpnc-gnome - network management framework (VPNC plugin, GNOME UI)19:46
MartijnVdSif you're connecting to a Cisco VPN network, install network-manager-vpnc-gnome19:47
MartijnVdSif it's openvpn, use network-manager-openvpn-gnome19:47
michael__its our work systems and I think they're all just Microsoft stuff19:47
michael__The reason Im going this is I have a VPN system on my windows XP works laptop - that laptop has decided its going to be a pain in the backside tonight so I thought id just set the same VPN thingy up on my Ubuntu laptop19:48
michael__Ive already got my work emails on here19:48
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popeyEvening all20:00
brobostigonevening popey20:00
bigcalm_laptopEllo popey :)20:07
popeybigcalm_laptop: have you left yet?20:07
bigcalm_laptoppopey: if I were still at home, I would be using bigcalm via my proxy :)20:08
* StevenR_ wonders if laptop plus cables plus rucksack plus 2 shirts plus filofax plus washkit will exceed his baggage allowance for hand baggage20:08
bigcalm_laptopIf you ever seem me with this nick, it means that I'm away from home20:08
bigcalm_laptopWe're staying at Hayley's parents' for the evening then off for the coach tomorrow morning20:09
popeyahh, nice20:09
bigcalm_laptopOh, and because there is no client attached to my irssi proxy, I get an email everytime my nick it highlighted20:10
bigcalm_laptopHandy, but only when I'm not here on my laptop :D20:10
popeybigcalm oh really20:10
popeybigcalm that must be annoying20:10
* bigcalm_laptop kippers popey 20:10
bigcalm_laptopI'll get 1 email with a few lines afterwards in a set time window20:11
gordbigcalm_laptop, sooo why not connect to the proxy from the laptop?20:13
bigcalm_laptopgord: haven't opened the ports on my router to do so20:14
gordoh right, fairy nuff20:14
bigcalm_laptopBut I could do so at some point I guess :)20:14
michael__ooo do either you bigcalm or gord know how to replicate my windows xp VPN onto my Ubuntu machine?20:14
gordnot me20:14
bigcalm_laptopmichael__: pptp?20:15
czajkowskibigcalm_laptop: arent you on holidays ?20:15
popey21:09:03 < bigcalm_laptop> We're staying at Hayley's parents' for the evening then off for the coach tomorrow morning20:15
bigcalm_laptopczajkowski: technically that's from tomorrow20:15
czajkowskibigcalm_laptop: ah cool, happy holidaying :)20:15
czajkowskityring to plan mine now20:15
michael__you have to go easy on the jargon bigcalm as im not down with it.  Ive just written all the settings down from my windows machine, and punched them into the vpn settings box onmy ubuntu machine.  Pretty much as far as ive got so far20:15
czajkowskiheading to ireland for 10 days but thats not a holiday as still working20:16
bigcalm_laptopczajkowski: I've managed to get a few things done this evening which will make my holiday a little more relaxing20:16
bigcalm_laptopmichael__: not a clue then sorry20:16
czajkowskibigcalm_laptop: cool20:16
bigcalm_laptopAmused that my boss commented on my facebook status20:17
bigcalm_laptopEverybody telling me no20:17
czajkowskibigcalm_laptop: subtle :)20:22
bigcalm_laptopNo IRC?!20:27
bigcalm_laptopEven in a non-worky way?20:27
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: Lots of Pink Floyd on BBC4 tonight20:32
brobostigonMartijnVdS: yep, all marked, :). and get_iplayer set to record.20:32
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: \o/20:32
brobostigonMartijnVdS: :)20:33
bigcalm_laptopSee you kids in a week :)21:44
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