[00:00] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/linux-screencasting-tool-kazam-goes-gstreamer-adds-pulseaudio-support/  for screen casting :)
[00:01] <jagginess> sinistrad, "I had to make sure I put the right option for my computer (an HP Pavillion HDX 16 laptop) into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:
[00:01] <jagginess> options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx
[00:01] <jagginess> "
[00:01] <jagginess> sinistrad, http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=58616&start=60 (not ubuntu forum, but source where i got that from)
[00:01] <sinistrad> jagginess, Hrm. I'll look into that. It seems helpful
[00:01] <jagginess> sinistrad, echo "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:02] <jagginess> (use >> and not > )
[00:02] <jagginess> sinistrad, then simply reboot and see if sound works
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: that won't work
[00:02] <dlentz> jagginess, you forgot sudo?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: the file is owned by root
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> jagginess:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[00:03] <jagginess> sinistrad, btw you can pastebin that file if you want.. so i can take a look at it
[00:04] <jagginess> (alsa-base.conf)
[00:04] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Can someone help me when I t
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> IBMHPGOOGLE: ask and the channel will reply if it can
[00:05] <sinistrad> jagginess, which file you want paste-binned?
[00:06] <jagginess> , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:06] <sinistrad> jagginess, OK
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:06] <drecute> please where can I download pam_nis module?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> drecute: http://packages.ubuntu.com may help
[00:07] <OerHeks> harovali check your connection please
[00:13] <IBMHPGOOGLE> When I type sudo dpkg --configure -a it tell me this unable to access dpkg status area: read-only file system  how can I get both read and write access to the system can someone help me please
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | IBMHPGOOGLE
[00:14] <L3top> cant touch a read only system can you?
[00:14]  * L3top would boot to live disk and fsck from there
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> maybe not but i believe the link has a how to on how to do stuff from liveCD
[00:15] <drecute> ActionParsnip: no luck
[00:15] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I deed already fsck -f -c
[00:15] <drecute> i found http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~peterb/uxsup/project/pam_nis/
[00:16] <drecute> but it is incomplete cos I can't build it
[00:16] <sinistrad> ActionParsnip, If jagginess shows back up, tell him my paste is at http://pastebin.com/QBjzP62y
[00:17] <sinistrad> ActionParsnip, I'm rebooting to see if his suggestion works.
[00:38] <donvito2> do i need to have good machine to use ubuntu effects like compiz?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> donvito, what is the definition of a good machine
[00:38] <donvito2> I have Pentium 4 CPU 3.0 Ghz 1 GB of Ram
[00:39] <Blackshirt> Donvito2, not really..you just need vga capable running compiz
[00:39] <donvito2> and i have Geforce 6200 turbocache
[00:39] <mjrussell> Has anyone else had problems logging into Gnome since updates today/yesterday/day before?
[00:40] <donvito2> video card is geforce 6200 turbocache with 128 mb of ram
[00:40] <donvito2> will that be ok for compiz?
[00:40] <Blackshirt> Graphic with 3d rendering capability should run compiz without problem
[00:41] <donvito2> than mine doesnt have 3d rendering i think
[00:41] <Blackshirt> Donvito2, i think that was capable run compiz....
[00:41] <pbx2> How to get Java 7 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:41] <pbx2> JRE
[00:41] <sk8rbluscat> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre   -- i think
[00:42] <xangua> pbx2: you can get openjdk from repositories, if you want oracle java go to it's website and download it
[00:42] <pbx2> I went to Ubuntu software center
[00:42] <pbx2> and there the reviews says it is Java 6
[00:43] <pbx2> I downloaded the .tar.gz from Oracle...but don't know what to do next?
[00:43] <RangerBob> might install synaptic and search using it
[00:43] <RangerBob> software center doesn't always show everything
[00:43] <pbx2> Synaptic is different from Ubuntu Software center?
[00:43] <sk8rbluscat> pbx2: use apt-cache search java in terminal
[00:43] <xangua> pbx2: you have the install instructions in it's web
[00:43] <RangerBob> yeah, apt-cache search jdk should show it
[00:44]  * sk8rbluscat installed ubuntu and i'm using the lubuntu shell :P
[00:44] <pbx2> and I want to do a clean install of Firefox...without all the Ubuntu "customizations" :)
[00:45] <RangerBob> you can install firefox and then remove the ubuntu addons
[00:45] <mjrussell> @pbx just disable the Ubunu Firefox extension
[00:46] <pbx2> that's not good enough...I used to try a previous release of Ubuntu and even after disabling the extension....about:crashes never showed up....then I think I had make a complete uninstall of firefox...
[00:47] <pbx2> it was saying previously that you submit crash reports to Ubuntu
[00:47] <Cerrdor> where can I find my firewall settings, I didnt install one but my DNS server keeps timing out I need to open port 53
[00:47] <RangerBob> if you're having issues did you try to temp rename your .mozilla/firefox dir and see if you still had issues?
[00:47] <i7c> Cerrdor: type sudo iptables -L    in terminal
[00:48] <Cerrdor> i7c, http://pastebin.com/XuJ5G0yr
[00:48] <donvito2> what actually is UNITY 5.0
[00:48] <Cerrdor> thats all I get
[00:48] <pbx2> RangerBob: I will just delete that folder :)
[00:49] <i7c> Cerrdor: mhm you local firewall doesnt seem to block anything.
[00:49] <i7c> your*
[00:49] <i7c> Cerrdor: can you verify that nothing else blocks your connection to DNS? like your router?
[00:50] <pbx2> The instructions on Oracle website just say to extract the tar.gz folder? That won't install JRE on Ubuntu right? http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-jre.html
[00:50] <pbx2> *just says
[00:50] <pbx2> I don't get this part "The JRE files are installed in a directory called jre1.7.0_<version> in the current directory."
[00:50] <pbx2> ?
[00:51] <pbx2> if I extract it in Home directory
[00:51] <Cerrdor> i7c, I am in VM
[00:51] <pbx2> it wont work with Firefox / Google Chrome
[00:51] <Cerrdor> does that have anything to do with it?
[00:51] <pbx2> thats all the instructions there are?
[00:52] <i7c> Cerrdor: could be. how do you notice that your dns has time out?
[00:52] <forrest__> How does one enable HDMI audio output support?
[00:53] <Cerrdor> i7c, when I dig @my.ip.he.re mydomain.com
[00:53] <Cerrdor> times out
[00:53] <wawowe> forrest__: hit f6 in alsamixer and unmute with >
[00:54] <pbx2> Is there a way to check which Nvida driver version is installed in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:54] <forrest__> Thank you.
[00:54] <lrojas> hi all, i just installed php5 from the standard repositories in 12.04 ( sudo apt-get install php5 ), and i'm trying to find the file php.ini-development, any idea where cna i find it?
[00:54] <Cerrdor> dig @127.0.0.1 returns fine
[00:55] <Blackshirt> Pbx2, are you installed from standar repos or vendor one?
[00:55] <Cerrdor> but my IP times out
[00:55] <pbx2> Nvida X server settings says it is 295.49
[00:56] <i7c> Cerrdor: your ip means "internet ip"?
[00:56] <Blackshirt> Lrojas, you can use dpkg -L packagename to list file included with packages?
[00:56] <i7c> Cerrdor: well doessnt matter
[00:57] <i7c> Cerrdor: sounds pretty much like your can't get out of your virtual machine
[00:57] <i7c> you*
[00:57] <Cerrdor> correct
[00:57] <K1rk> I am attempting to setup an L2TP VPN server on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server using openswan and xl2tpd. I am having a problem connecting. I have done quite a bit of Googling, and there's an extensive Ubuntu Forums thread on this problem, but the suggestions in the thread don't fix it.
[00:57] <K1rk> Anyone have this working and be willing to trade notes with me?
[00:57] <Blackshirt> Pbx2, i think you was used vendor version
[00:57] <pbx2> I want 295.53 one which is listed on Nvidia's website, but whenever I do "sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run" it says " You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing..."
[00:57] <pbx2> But I don't know how
[00:58] <pbx2> ?
[00:58] <i7c> Cerrdor: can you configure something about that? do tcp connections work? or is it only udp?
[00:58] <K1rk> pbx2, I remember that, that was a pain in the ass.
[00:58] <K1rk> pbx2 first of all you'll need to install it while you are in the TTY, you can't be in a desktop session.
[00:58] <aguitel> pbx2, why not install from ubuntu repo this driver?
[00:59] <olskolirc> I feel your dilima lrojas I can't google your answer
[00:59] <lrojas> Blackshirt: yes, i can... but using locate the only php.ini is the one at /etc/php5/apache2/
[00:59] <pbx2> aguitel, the ubuntu repo gives me 295.49 not 295.53
[00:59] <K1rk> pbx2, aguitel has a point.  On my desktop at work I am using the nVidia driver from the Restricted Drivers thing. It's working fine.
[00:59] <Blackshirt> Pbx2, you should install it from pure console based...not on gui environment
[01:00] <aguitel> pbx2, not difference
[01:00] <Cerrdor> i7c, how do I test that?
[01:00] <pbx2> Blackshirt, how would I go into pure console?
[01:00] <K1rk> pbx2: the hackish workaround I did, was to chmod -x the Xorg executible, go to a TTY, killall gnome-session, and run the nvidia installer. Then chmod +x the executible again and reboot.
[01:00] <K1rk> Not that I recommend doing that.
[01:00] <K1rk> But it would work
[01:01] <aguitel> pbx2, make in terminal :sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && nvidia-xconfig and restart the pc
[01:01] <Needer_of_Help> hello
[01:01] <olskolirc> !ask | Needer_of_Help
[01:01] <K1rk> Hi Needer_of_Help, please ask your question.
[01:02] <i7c> Cerrdor: do you have a GUI on that system?
[01:02] <Cerrdor> yeah
[01:02] <blindfer> alguien en español
[01:02] <aguitel> blindfer, go to #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <lrojas> how come when i do dpkg -L php5 i only get some entries
[01:03] <i7c> Cerrdor: see if you can go to google:   http://173.194.32.32/
[01:03] <pbx2> aguitel: there is always a difference with different version numbers even minor... you are saying to again use sudo apt-get ... but I wanted the official / latest version which is 295.53 .... so now I need to somehow boot into console only enviroment...but I don't know how?
[01:03] <K1rk> So, nobody paying attention to the channel right now has any insights into openswan l2tp vpn?
[01:03] <Needer_of_Help> I am a linux noob, and mysql-apache-php-drupal noob, trying to install drupal, I almost got to the end I think, the first problem is "Drupal requires you to enable the PHP extensions in the following list (see the system requirements page for more information): gd  pdo"
[01:04] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: apt-get install php5-gd?
[01:04] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: never heard of php pdo.
[01:04] <pbx2> K1rk, TTY means?
[01:04] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk I had run that but I can try it again
[01:04] <Cerrdor> i7c, yeah all internet connected aspects work fine
[01:04] <Cerrdor> thus IRC
[01:05] <K1rk> pbx2: TTY is the text terminal. Hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to TTY1. CTRL+ALT+F7 or 8 brings you back to GDM. I forget which one.
[01:05] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: You'll need to restart Apache for the new php extensions to be loaded.  "service apache2 restart"
[01:05] <xangua> pbx2: sudo service lightdm stop  , to exit X if that is what you want
[01:05] <pbx2> K1rk, nice :)
[01:05] <K1rk> pbx2: Glad you approve
[01:05] <forrest__> wawowe, I disabled Auto-Mute Mode in alsamixer but I still have no HDMI audio output. Was that what I was supposed to do?
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> Reading package lists... Done
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> Building dependency tree
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> Reading state information... Done
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> php5-gd is already the newest version.
[01:06] <FloodBot1> Needer_of_Help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:06] <i7c> Cerrdor: so dig google.com  would work too?  then i guess nothing wrong with your machine. you should see about that DNS server
[01:06] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: and you've restarted apache2?
[01:06]  * Cerrdor facepalms
[01:07] <i7c> Cerrdor: ?
[01:07] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk, will restart now to be sure
[01:07] <wawowe> forrest__: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 audio.mp3
[01:07] <Cerrdor> dig google.com works fine
[01:07] <Cerrdor> what exactly am I missing?
[01:07] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: I've never heard of PDO but apparently my server has it enabled. It looks like it is MySQL related. Can I trust you have also run apt-get install php5-mysql?
[01:08] <i7c> Cerrdor: i just think your domain / dns name is not configured correctly
[01:08] <cmanns> Hello
[01:08] <K1rk> !ask cmanns
[01:08] <K1rk> Oh damn the bot doesn't listen to me. -.-
[01:08] <cmanns> It's okay
[01:08] <K1rk> !ask
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk restarting apache did fix 2 of my problems!! but it still says there is an issue with gb, same text as before
[01:09] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: gb? You mean gd?
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help> gd
[01:09] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: What's the issue with it again?
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help> Drupal requires you to enable the PHP extensions in the following list (see the system requirements page for more information):
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help>     gd
[01:09] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: Hmm.  Do you know where your webroot is?  Default is /var/www.
[01:10] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: nano /var/www/phpinfo.php
[01:10] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: In that file type "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" and save the file. Then go to it in your web browser.
[01:10] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: That will immensely help you diagnosing your issues, and will also tell us if GD is truly enabled or not.
[01:11] <olskolirc> Needer_of_Help, take it to #php damn
[01:11] <cmanns> I've booted ubuntu to determine if my computer manu was lying about AHCI being enabled by default or not (No options in bios) recent i-Core system, Intel Series 6 / C200 Sata here is dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008971/ ; by ata_piix I'm assuming it's not in AHCI mode?
[01:11] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: If it's a public webserver you can give me the link to the phpinfo file once you've made it, and I'd be happy to take a look at it and see if anything stands out.
[01:11] <K1rk> olskolirc: They'd probably say it's not a PHP issue.
[01:11] <forrest__> wawowe: Do I paste that some where? Sorry I'm still learning.
[01:12] <olskolirc> I googled that ini file and couldn't find any information on it K1rk
[01:12] <wawowe> forrest__: as a test: apt-get install mplayer
[01:12] <K1rk> olskolirc: What INI file?
[01:12] <wawowe> forrest__: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 someaudiofile.mp3
[01:13] <olskolirc> Needer_of_Help, cd into the Apache2 dir in /etc and find plugins avail folder and see if what you are looking for is in there
[01:13] <cmanns> Needer_of_Help, you need the graphics extension of php.
[01:13] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk think I accidentally deleted phpinfo.php
[01:13] <olskolirc> I just got done building my LAMP server
[01:13] <wawowe> forrest__: run those in terminal
[01:13] <pinguy_> hi all
[01:13] <K1rk> olskolirc and cmanns: In every case I have seen on a Ubuntu server, apt-get install php5-gd installs and enables the plugin in Apache automatically, I have never had to modify anything in /etc/apache2 to make that stuff work.
[01:13] <forrest__> Okay, thanks. Installing now.
[01:13] <bd1308> Before I file a bug against 12.04 Ubuntu + Xen dom0, is anybody else experiencing a kernel bug when dom0 starts booting ubuntu? The file is linux-3.2.0/mm/slub.c:3427
[01:14] <cmanns> K1rk, that's all thats needed.
[01:14] <pinguy_> frack
[01:14] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc etc/apache2/ has no pluginsavailable folder
[01:15] <olskolirc> I did K1rk to get php plugins to load - the first server, I had to enable them by hand
[01:15] <olskolirc> oh wait Needer_of_Help
[01:15] <Needer_of_Help> could it be modsavailable
[01:16] <olskolirc> that's odd Needer_of_Help
[01:17] <olskolirc> I coulda swore it was Apache since I spent so much time playing with the plugins
[01:17] <wawowe> forrest__: ctrl+alt+t
[01:17] <Needer_of_Help> if it helps, I can post the url of the page I tried to follow
[01:18] <olskolirc> see?  Now I have to install this b* over again
[01:18] <olskolirc> Needer_of_Help, its in /etc/apache2
[01:18] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: I truly don't understand why you're having this problem.  GD has always "just worked" for me. lol
[01:19] <olskolirc> look for mods-available Needer_of_Help
[01:19] <olskolirc> think it won't?
[01:19] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc I do have modsavailable
[01:21] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc many files inside but not any that have gd in the name
[01:22] <olskolirc> refresh me exactly the file you are looking for and what does it do?
[01:23] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc I got it.... added "extension=gd.so" to php.ini and restart apache
[01:23] <olskolirc> Nice move Needer_of_Help
[01:23] <olskolirc> NEXT
[01:23] <olskolirc> I'm here all night :-)
[01:24] <Needer_of_Help> thanks for help, will now try the next step of install
[01:24] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: Glad to be of assistance
[01:25] <K1rk> Nobody wants to take a crack at this? https://goput.it/v65.txt
[01:25] <olskolirc> I followd this one Needer_of_Help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:25] <xisor> hi can anyone help me setup a liveUSB for 12.04? i dont have an optical drive and still want to be able to install kubuntu/ubuntu/ whatever buntu i want:P
[01:26] <olskolirc> hold on K1rk
[01:26] <xangua> !usb | xisor
[01:26] <Needer_of_Help> thanks Kirk, olskoirc
[01:26] <forrest__> wawowe: I installed mplayer but the second part failed I think. Was it supposed to play the audio file through HDMI?
[01:27] <xisor> do i need the 64 bit version of kubuntu? or is 32 bit fine?
[01:28] <wawowe> forrest__: yes
[01:28] <olskolirc> xisor, depends on what bit your machine is
[01:29] <olskolirc> K1rk, what are you using to tunnel?
[01:29] <xisor> its a 64bit capable machine, i was just wondering if its worth bothering with a 64bit distro, im new to linux im setting it up as a media center
[01:29] <xisor> so no need for winblows on it
[01:29] <K1rk> olskolirc: I was using the iPad VPN client. Testing on Windows 7 now
[01:29] <wawowe> forrest__: echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio
[01:30] <xisor> ok wait, this says i can use any iso image i want using this method? like for any of the versions of ubuntu?
[01:30] <L3top> xisor: 32 is fine. Most everything 64 is running is 32 anyway, and with the PAE kernel memory isnt an issue.
[01:30] <cmanns> xisor, yeah may as well run 32
[01:31] <olskolirc> oh K1rk I don't do windows
[01:31] <xisor> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu other than kde vs gnome? and which one is better?
[01:32] <L3top> xisor: both are buntu under the sheets, I prefer kde... but this is not a good channel for polls
[01:32] <xisor> no im asking what the differences are L3top
[01:33] <xisor> so i know which one to try
[01:33] <xangua> (20:32:41) L3top: xisor: both are buntu
[01:33] <forrest__> wawowe: I ran that in terminal. I didn't see or hear anything. What was supposed to happen?
[01:33] <cmanns> xisor, it's the user interface
[01:33] <cmanns> You're going to use this as a htpc?
[01:34] <xisor> cmanns: yes, i was considering lxde so that would be... lubuntu right?
[01:34] <Gumby> does anyone know if there is a way to reset a wifi card in network manager.  It appears that its config is corrupt or something as network manager is telling me the hardware switch is set to off.  When I boot with a livecd the wifi works without me touching the hardware switch
[01:34] <wawowe> forrest__: nothing. now run mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 yourmusic.mp3
[01:35] <cmanns> xisor, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[01:35] <cmanns> Yeah looks like lubuntu would be a godo choice
[01:35] <cmanns> I'm on Xubuntu
[01:35] <xisor> xubuntu is xfce?
[01:35] <olskolirc> !anyone
[01:35] <primefalcon> Lubuntu is a good choice I've used it for a few years (was using lxde before Lubuntu as well)
[01:35] <olskolirc> more details Gumby
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> xisor: different default apps and diferent default desktop
[01:35] <xisor> can i unstall standard ubuntu and add lxde to it? or is that hard?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> xisor: sure
[01:36] <xisor> once i get it running can i come back for help with that? :D
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> xisor: you will just have the choice of desktop when you log in
[01:36] <primefalcon> xisor: xubuntu ==xfce, lubuntu == lxde, kubuntu == kde
[01:36] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install lxde xisor when you get to your ubuntu terminal
[01:36] <xisor> ActionParsnip: is there a way to set it to automatically log me in regardless of which interface im using?
[01:36] <olskolirc> Log out and choose lxde from the login sessions menu xisor
[01:36] <Gumby> olskolirc: what more details would you like?  It worked, now it doesnt.  The only change I made was to edit the settings of a wifi network which I have now completely deleted.  I think my question stands, is there a way to reset or delete/re-add a wifi card from network manager
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> xisor: the last session for each user is remembered
[01:37] <primefalcon> prob be better to sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop since that will install all the recomended aps as well
[01:37] <olskolirc> specs Gumby
[01:38] <Gumby> olskolirc: ubuntu 12.04 amd64, AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter
[01:38] <L3top> xisor: what you want is probably a media center specific distro, like mythbuntu, xbmc, or something more involved like linuxmce...
[01:39] <Pirat> hi, anyone here to talk with? ;)
[01:40] <primefalcon> quick open question, does anyone know of a script or such that will do a mv except with a progress meter?
[01:40] <ScottyK> greetings! I've got a notebook dualbooting Win7 and Kubuntu 12.04. I want to try Ubuntu 12.04. Can I triple boot, or is there a way to use the Kubuntu to log into Ubuntu?
[01:40] <LinuX2half> How can I update Rhythmebox?
[01:40] <primefalcon> ScottyK: just install kde and unity and choose which desktop you ant at boot
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> ScottyK, you can install ubuntu with the kubuntu, and depending on your partition set up have it as another install.
[01:41] <xangua> ScottyK: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want to install ubuntu, you can also Try ubuntu on a live usb
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> ScottyK: you can install kde on Ubuntu if you want and select it at logon
[01:41] <LinuX2half> There seems to be no repoistry for that.
[01:41] <olskolirc> Gumby, I'm reading that your card is unstable on Ubuntu.  This may pose as a good solution for you though http://askubuntu.com/questions/90077/ndiswrapper-driver-loaded-but-not-being-used
[01:41] <olskolirc> what is your rhythmebox version LinuX2half
[01:41] <Gumby> olskolirc: thats odd.  I've been using it for two years now with 0 issues whatsover
[01:41] <LinuX2half> olskolirc: 2.96
[01:41] <olskolirc> old solutions are good solutions Gumby
[01:42] <alusion> How do I use htop ntop iftop iotop powertop or any of those tops, and are they that useful to know?
[01:42] <Gumby> olskolirc: the issue is not with the card.  It is a software issue, I believe the config to be corrupt.  I can boot a livecd of 12.04 and the card turns on without any problems
[01:42] <olskolirc> Gumby, what happens if you pull the card out and put it back in
[01:42] <olskolirc> hardware detection Gumby
[01:43] <Gumby> what about it?
[01:43] <Gumby> the hardware is detected
[01:43] <Gumby> it is a matter of what state the OS is putting it in by default
[01:43] <forrest__> wawowe: I keep trying different audio files but its not able to find them or that it cannot connect to socket.
[01:43] <olskolirc> ndiswrapper or wicd-gtk would get it going again Gumby
[01:44] <Gumby> olskolirc: if wicd-gtk would get it working then it isnt a hardware issue obviously.
[01:44] <olskolirc> I'm good for ripping out config files, rebooting and the machine gives me new ones
[01:44] <Gumby> so, yes... this may be a solution... but I'd rather fix the problem
[01:45] <ububash> hello
[01:46] <ububash> who can help me with getting beep to work?
[01:46] <ububash> any1 here?
[01:47] <LordOfTime> ububash:  patience
[01:47] <olskolirc> what's wrong with beep?
[01:47] <ububash> k
[01:47] <LordOfTime> ububash:  "beep"?
[01:47] <olskolirc> !patience
[01:47] <alusion> does sudo apt-get update    just list the files or updates them as well
[01:47] <wawowe> forrest__: paste this in ~/.asoundrc : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009012/
[01:47] <ScottyK> great, thanks! installing Ubuntu from within Kubuntu, will it adversy affect the Kubuntu install, or does it not matter?
[01:47] <yeats> alusion: it updates your local package cache
[01:48] <yeats> alusion: it doesn
[01:48] <alusion> what should I do to install updates
[01:48] <yeats> alusion: sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:48] <alusion> oh okay well that is what i mentioned lol
[01:49] <yeats> alusion: huh?
[01:49] <alusion> my cowsay doesn't work
[01:49] <alusion> lol
[01:49] <alusion> nvm got it
[01:50] <ububash> after reviewing blacklist.conf, I see no reason beep shouldn't work
[01:51] <din> ububash: is the volume up? ;)
[01:51] <OerHeks> ububash, open terminal: alsamixer ( maybe pc speaker is muted)
[01:51] <ububash> yeah, alsamixer good, espeak works
[01:52] <alusion> What are some things I should watch out for when it comes to compiz effects on top of cairo-dock / gnome shell
[01:53] <ububash> I suppose I could check aptitude for another beep generator...beep has never failed me before
[01:53] <ububash> weird
[01:54] <zivester> is there a case where `sudo rm file` would give a permission denied? (its an nfs mount, but a simple `rm file` works
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> zivester: mounted read only maybe
[01:55] <zivester> nah, the user im sudo'ing from can remove the file just fine... but i need sudo to have write permissions to the file
[01:56] <ace7> Hi, I just finished installing ubuntu, but why I'm not seeing my partition d and e? I thought ubuntu will only install on c only...
[01:56] <meowso> someone tell me how to chose a kernel in a gui?
[01:56] <din> zivester: if "no_root_squash" isn't enabled on the nfs mount then root won't be able to act on it.
[01:56] <olskolirc> ace7, df -H
[01:57] <ace7> df-H?
[01:57] <ace7> put it at terminal?
[01:57] <olskolirc> df  -H
[01:57] <ace7> df -H
[01:57] <olskolirc> with a space yes in the terminal
[01:57] <ace7> ok
[01:57] <olskolirc> hey when is ChanServ going to give me op
[01:58] <olskolirc> I never heard of it meowso
[01:59] <graingert> Who is responsible for www.ubuntu.com?
[01:59] <olskolirc> why do you want to do that meowso
[01:59] <olskolirc> Canonical graingert
[01:59] <tensorpudding> !canonical
[01:59] <graingert> olskolirc: as in someone I can contract on IRC
[02:00] <kv> test
[02:00] <olskolirc> This would be the place I suppose graingert
[02:00] <zorg24> graingert, this is the official Ubuntu irc channel
[02:01] <graingert> agreed but what nick should be pinged
[02:01] <olskolirc> We never know graingert
[02:01] <zorg24> graingert, is their something you need help with?  Or what?
[02:01] <graingert> kv: sorry I didn't see that you'll need to reconfigure your client
[02:01] <olskolirc> it could be zorg24 never know lol
[02:02] <ace7> "/dev/sda1       248G  6.5G  230G   3% /
[02:02] <ace7> udev            915M  4.1k  915M   1% /dev
[02:02] <graingert> zorg24: "what"
[02:02] <ace7> tmpfs           369M  971k  368M   1% /run
[02:02] <ace7> none            5.3M     0  5.3M   0% /run/lock
[02:02] <ace7> none            922M   87k  922M   1% /run/shm
[02:02] <FloodBot1> ace7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <ace7> /dev/sdc1       4.1G  735M  3.3G  19% /media/PENDRIVE
[02:02] <zorg24> lol no I don't work canonical if that's what you're suggesting
[02:02] <trism> graingert: maybe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website (#ubuntu-website)
[02:02] <olskolirc> !pastebin
[02:03] <alusion> is there a cheatsheet for desktop commands and whatnot?
[02:03] <olskolirc> www.linuxcommand.org alusion
[02:03] <zorg24> graingert: I was saying why are you asking for someone from canonical?
[02:03] <yuri__> Hello. Quick question: My Ubuntu computer is a triple core AMD, but it is starting to slow down. It now takes about 30 seconds to open Dolphin now. Any ideas?
[02:03] <graingert> zorg24: yes
[02:04] <olskolirc> clean your cpu fan yuri__ ?
[02:04] <graingert> yuri__: clean install
[02:04] <ace7> dev/sda1       248G  6.5G  230G   3% /
[02:04] <ace7> udev            915M  4.1k  915M   1% /dev
[02:04] <ace7> tmpfs           369M  971k  368M   1% /run
[02:04] <ace7> none            5.3M     0  5.3M   0% /run/lock
[02:04] <ace7> none            922M   87k  922M   1% /run/shm
[02:04] <FloodBot1> ace7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <ace7> /dev/sdc1       4.1G  735M  3.3G  19% /media/PENDRIVE
[02:04] <zorg24> ok then if you tell us why we might be able to help
[02:04] <olskolirc> !pastebin | ace7
[02:04] <yuri__> My only problem with clean install is that I lose a ton of movies. Can't replace 'em either any more. Also, I just did a clean install a month ago.
[02:04] <yeats> !pastebin | ace7
[02:04] <zorg24> also alusion I use http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt
[02:05] <olskolirc> try bleachbit yuri__ its a powerful system cleaner
[02:05] <yuri__> Thank you, olskolirc. :)
[02:05] <ace7> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009020/
[02:06] <ace7> I can't see D and E partition
[02:06] <LordOfTime> ace7:  "D" and "E"?
[02:06] <ace7> does this mean all files on D and E are all deleted??
[02:07] <olskolirc> You have a usb pendrive and usp nic card and the rest is all ubuntu ace7 lucky you
[02:07] <yeats> ace7: linux doesn't use those letter designations like windows does
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> ace7, try sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin the text
[02:07] <graingert> zorg24: I can't say why
[02:07] <Blackshirt> Ace7, what you mean with d and e partition...linux would not recognize them, it was not linux names,but windows name
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | ace7
[02:07] <olskolirc> you betcha ace7
[02:08] <olskolirc> Ubuntu won't overwrite your other hard drive space unless you specify that it doesn't do that during the install
[02:08] <yeats> olskolirc: actually there's not a way to see that from what ace7 has posted so far...
[02:09] <zorg24> graingert, you might try http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact or http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us
[02:09] <olskolirc> ace7, bring up partition manager and take a look around
[02:09] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Can someone please help me when I type sudo dpkg --configure -a it tell me that the file system have read only access how can I do to get both read and write access to the file system I have already root access
[02:09] <Blackshirt> You should remount it read and write
[02:10] <olskolirc> chmod and chown on that filesystem IBMHPGOOGLE and give it back to you
[02:10] <ace7> how to bring up partition manager?
[02:10] <Blackshirt> Fscking them may be help you
[02:11] <olskolirc> look in system settings ace7
[02:11] <primefalcon> ace7: boot from a livedisk and scan to fix errors from there
[02:11] <olskolirc> or utilities ace7
[02:11] <Blackshirt> It was look your system has a trouble with filesystem...and system could not mount partition normally
[02:11] <olskolirc> well primefalcon , it looks to me like he overwrote the whole drive and gave it ubuntu
[02:11] <primefalcon> ace7: never fsck a mounted partiton
[02:11] <yeats> ace7: did you pastebin what wilee-nilee asked you to?
[02:12] <primefalcon> overwrote..... that would rule out even testdisk
[02:12] <olskolirc> he could have different hard drives but he can't see that unless he looks at the partition.  ace7 try fdisk -l
[02:12] <kv> .
[02:12] <yeats> olskolirc: that's what wilee-nilee asked him to post... :-/
[02:13] <graingert> zorg24: thanks I sent an email to them
[02:13] <olskolirc> he posted
[02:13] <wa5qjh> Hello the channel!! is there anybody here that can direct me toan expert on wubi installations?  I've been to at least one wubi website without much luck.
[02:13] <zorg24> graingert, no problem
[02:13] <olskolirc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009020/ this is all he has on his hard drive, ubuntu and two usb plugin
[02:13] <ace7> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009030/
[02:13] <graingert> zorg24: let's hope they are awake
[02:13] <Blackshirt> Wa5gjh, i think maybe better install it on separated partition
[02:13] <yeats> olskolirc: that's not 'fdisk -l' that's 'df -h'
[02:14] <olskolirc> wa5qjh, dual booting?
[02:14] <yeats> ace7: it's 'fdisk -l' not 'fdisk -1'
[02:14] <olskolirc> yeats sudo fdisk -l and you can read the partition tables
[02:14] <wa5qjh> It would have been preferable at the time. in fact it was actually done but had problems with booting.
[02:15] <yeats> olskolirc: I know
[02:15] <olskolirc> df -H is different
[02:15] <yeats> olskolirc: yes, I know that
[02:15] <yeats> olskolirc: you were telling him he had lost all his data based on his previous paste, which was 'df -h' output
[02:15] <olskolirc> let me show you how to make a dualboot yeats hold on I have notes
[02:16] <K1rk> olskolirc: Did you have a chance to look at my txt file from earlier? it didn't work on Windows 7 client either.
[02:16] <sinistrad> I installed 12.04 64-bit on a fresh partition. Sound has been working since 9.04. Here is a paste of configs/logs: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b73308f5bd30eb10871163137b1da094e5fa6cd
[02:16] <wa5qjh> I actually had better luck with that wubi installation than I have with a normal partitioned installation since. oddly enough.
[02:16] <yeats> olskolirc: I think you mean wa5qjh...
[02:16] <ace7> it ask my password, but when I type my pasword it didn't appear
[02:16] <sinistrad> My sound doesn't work on 12.04...sorry
[02:16] <wa5qjh> but now I'm left with a 20GB  so-called "root.disk" with a lot of stuff in it I can no longer get to.
[02:16] <ace7> I can't key in the password in terminal..
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> ace7, part of the system in the terminal the password does not show
[02:17] <chuuicv> hi, i can't get a fresh install of ubuntu on my computer
[02:17] <yeats> ace7: it doesn't show on the screen
[02:17] <K1rk> chuuicv: What seems to be the trouble?
[02:17] <ace7> yup
[02:17] <zorg24> ace7, just type it in and hit enter it won't display the password or *****
[02:17] <primefalcon> ace7: your password doesn't show as stars  even... security
[02:17] <chuuicv> I have to use 10.04. I've used Unetbootin, and it throws error 2 errors when I try to boot from usb
[02:17] <olskolirc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009032/ wa5qjh
[02:17] <olskolirc> I'm getting you guys mixed up
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, what is the error in a pastebin
[02:18] <ace7> it says "sorry, try again"
[02:18] <K1rk> olskolirc: I am the l2tp vpn guy.
[02:18] <olskolirc> that's the easiest dual boot you will ever make wa5qjh
[02:18] <olskolirc> yeah K1rk I couldn't find your solution
[02:18] <yeats> ace7: you must be typing the password incorrectly
[02:18] <chuuicv> I don't know. I'd have to try and reformat again. Wilee, it throws "Error 2" errors throughout every step of the install process
[02:18] <K1rk> olskolirc: Damn. Me either so far.
[02:19] <olskolirc> its out there
[02:19] <wa5qjh> Thanks olskolirc and ace7 I'm trying to get that to come up in my browser now. Not easy when max speed is about 20kBps!!
[02:19] <ace7> haha why thx me...
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, did you test the md5sum of the ISO, and did you reformat the usb that may need to be done.
[02:19] <ace7> I'm the one asking question also haha
[02:19] <olskolirc> and that partition editor is beautiful too wa5qjh hold onto it and the note
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:20] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Specifically, it asks what language, I choose english, "ERROR 2: Some crap. Do you want to cancel, continue, retry? If you continue it could screw things up. Retrying doesn't work duh. And if you cancel, well, I'll just close the entire installer.""
[02:20] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I need to type something more than chmod and  chown but i do not now how to
[02:20] <chuuicv> So i continue and it throws the same error for every single thing it tries to install
[02:20] <ace7> olskolirc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009035/
[02:20] <L3top> xisor: pastebin your /etc/asound.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[02:20] <Blackshirt> Wa5qjh, wubi relies on windows filesystem...if your windows getting corrupted, (it's verry common happen to windows os), maybe you will lost your linux installed through wubi
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, did you test the md5sum of the ISO, and did you reformat the usb that may need to be done.
[02:20] <olskolirc> ace7, did you look at your hard drives through partition manager or fdisk -l ?
[02:21] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Would UNetbootin give me an invalid checksum?
[02:21] <yeats> ace7: those last two listed are windows partitions, so looks like you're probably okay
[02:21] <thomas> ops: there is a channel flooder in #ubuntu-br if any of you could take care of it
[02:21] <chuuicv> Where is the desktop folder on Ubuntu?
[02:21] <thomas> !ops: there is a channel flooder in #ubuntu-br if any of you could take care of it
[02:21] <chuuicv> Can't find it in file system
[02:21] <LordOfTime> chuuicv:  /home/[user]/Desktop
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, I'm not sure about checking a thumb check the link the bot gives.
[02:21] <chuuicv> ty
[02:21] <LordOfTime> where  [user] is your username
[02:22] <ace7> can't find partition manager in system setting and when I type fdisk -l in terminal nothing happen
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, I have feeling you are not sure what a check sum is not sure realy.,
[02:22] <yeats> ace7: what are you trying to do now?
[02:22] <olskolirc> you have to type sudo first ace7 then fdisk -l let me see if I can find your manager
[02:23] <olskolirc> I'm smart nuff to be on kubuntu :-P
[02:23] <ace7> I want to access my partition d and e
[02:23] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Lemme checksum it, although I'm 99% sure it's fine
[02:23] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I need to type something more than chmod and chown but I do not now how to
[02:23] <LordOfTime> IBMHPGOOGLE:  what're you trying to do?
[02:23] <o67pc> hey people
[02:23] <o67pc> can you help me
[02:23] <K1rk> !ask
[02:23] <yeats> ace7: open nautilus (the file manager)... you should see the other partitions in the side panel
[02:24] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[02:24] <olskolirc> ace7, try typing sudo partitionmanager
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, something is up unetbootin is fairly reliable would you like another usb loader to try? Ubuntu has one itself if you are using a ubuntu OS to load the thumb.
[02:24] <K1rk> ace7 what are you trying to do? Mount other partitions on your drive?
[02:24] <o67pc> i solving an chancellenge, seisetepc.xpg.com/solve.mp3, i don't good in english what is the answer?
[02:24] <K1rk> I drifted into this chat a bit ago ace7 but I'd be happy to lend a hand if you'll fill me in.
[02:25] <olskolirc> he's trying to find where his other partitions or hard drives went after the ubuntu install K1rk
[02:25] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: The usb-creator? I tried it too with different, yet still failing results.
[02:25] <K1rk> o67pc: This is a Ubuntu support channel.
[02:25] <olskolirc> ace7, are we looking for partitions or hard drives?
[02:25] <yeats> olskolirc: K1rk: and he has found them, but I'm not sure he understands that
[02:25] <o67pc> K1rk, sorry man, but i don't have help in other channels...
[02:25] <marduk> :S
[02:25] <olskolirc> !spanish
[02:25] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: I already have Ubuntu 10.04 on here, I'm just trying to reformat with a fresh copy of it. What steps would you take exactly?
[02:26] <yeats> olskolirc: he pasted fdisk output above, which showed two windows partitions
[02:26] <wa5qjh> Blackshirt,  no windows system is ok. I tried to use EasyBCD2???  to enable the regular Ubuntu partition( the one I'm on now) I actually created before I tried wubi and basdically hosed up wubi so it will no longer boot the wubi disk.
[02:26] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Btw, checksum was fine
[02:26] <Blackshirt> !ksplice
[02:26] <K1rk> yeats, olskolirc, ace7, Uhm, have you looked on the Places menu?  There will be stuff in there usually like "250GB Volume" "500GB Volume".
[02:26] <xisor> wow live-usb sure boots fast from an SSD XD
[02:27] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: brb, trying again
[02:27] <yeats> K1rk: yeah - that's what I just suggested to ace7
[02:27] <IBMHPGOOGLE> When I type sudo dpkg --configure -a it tell me that the file system have only read access how can I get both read and write access to the file system i already have root access
[02:27] <K1rk> yeats: k
[02:27] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Uh oh.
[02:27] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Can you do anything at all on the filesystem?  Try making a folder.
[02:27] <olskolirc> I don't remember ubuntu gui K1rk I'm on kubuntu
[02:27] <olskolirc> some things are the same
[02:28] <K1rk> olskolirc: yeah I'm with ya, I'm switching over to xfce on my new stuff. Thank you Unity.
[02:28] <Blackshirt> Ibmhpgoogle, boot with live cd, and fsck your disk,something trouble with your filesystem
[02:28] <manadys> donvito3: /join #autohotket
[02:29] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Sometimes when bad things happen to your filesystem, it will remount itself read-only to prevent further damage.
[02:29] <manadys> bah
[02:29] <xisor> is the unity UI bad or something/
[02:29]  * manadys is awesome at this IRC thing
[02:29] <yeats> xisor: it's all a matter of opinion
[02:29] <K1rk> xisor: I'm not a fan.  I hesitate to use the word "Bad" when describing software. But it isn't for me.
[02:29] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I do not now how I am only a simple user not a text based
[02:29] <K1rk> xisor: It feels a bit too much like a tablet OS for my liking.
[02:29] <dj_segfault> xisor: That depends on who your ask.  I refuse to use it myself.
[02:29] <Blackshirt> Xisor, i think was not bad,just not familiar
[02:29] <olskolirc> irc rocks hard manadys
[02:29] <xisor> how hard is it to install kde and use it if i dont like it etiher? my 12.04 install is finishing up right now so im in firefox killing time
[02:29] <reisio> xisor: GNOME 3 was a fairly drastic change from version 2 is all
[02:30] <reisio> xisor: people were expecting more of the same
[02:30] <reisio> instead they get to have their favorite DE as they knew it discontinued
[02:30] <xisor> does kde play nicer with ati than unity? someone told me unity and ati = bad
[02:30] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xisor
[02:30] <olskolirc> on the command line xisor
[02:30] <reisio> xisor: should be the same
[02:30] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I am using my android phone it is really annoying
[02:30] <dj_segfault> xisor:  Just install kubuntu instead
[02:30] <yeats> !purekde | xisor
[02:30] <olskolirc> I suggest everyone install kubuntu, xfce or lxde and close this channel how bout that :-)
[02:31] <ace7> k1rk, yup I'm trying to mount my partition D and E, before this I use windows with 3 partition,C,D and E.. When I boot ubuntu on flash drive I still can mount D and E, after finish installing ubuntu, I can't see partition D and E anymore..btw in windows my hard disk is 250GB with three partition, C:40+GB, D:100GB and E:100GB
[02:31] <xisor> yeats: is there any advantage to doing that?
[02:31] <wa5qjh> olskolirc  You must like that kde! So do I and am in the process of trying to download the 12.04  iso now.
[02:31] <xisor> yeats: does having the gnome stuff installed too hurt anything?
[02:31] <yeats> xisor: only if you want a kde system
[02:31] <yeats> xisor: nah
[02:31] <K1rk> xisor: nah just takes up space
[02:31] <reisio> IBMHPGOOGLE: stop using it? :p
[02:31] <olskolirc> more than likely wa5qjh you will be disappointed with 12.04 ive never seen a more sad release
[02:31] <xisor> 250 gig hard drive here, highly doubt ill even use 10% of it
[02:32] <xisor> considering putting my 64 gig SSD in here instead and using the 250 externally
[02:32] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: On the filesystem having this problem type something like "mkdir test" - does that work or throw a Read Only error?
[02:32] <yeats> olskolirc: not helpful
[02:32] <olskolirc> I'm preping him for a headache YeahRight_
[02:32] <K1rk> olskolirc: I disagree. 11.04 was a much sadder release.
[02:32] <olskolirc> yeats oops
[02:32] <dj_segfault> olskolirc: What don't you like about 12.04?
[02:33] <yeats> olskolirc: try to keep your opinions out of it
[02:33] <K1rk> dj_segfault: He's bashing on Unity, lol
[02:33] <Blackshirt> Xisor, ssd has limit write..
[02:33] <chuldaf> wilee-nilee: back. Now it says "Non bootable disk blah blah. Insert bootable floppy usb"
[02:33] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Fsck does not fix it even with fsck -f -c   what can I do now
[02:33] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Might just be a bad hard drive?
[02:33] <olskolirc> dj_segfault, I installed it 3 times with 3 different medias and the desktop would never load all the way.  cpu hog
[02:33] <olskolirc> I'm on natty i never had probs with natty
[02:34] <xisor> is it bad to use an SSD for linux?
[02:34] <Blackshirt> Ibmhpgoogle, are you sure fsck from livecd?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> chuldaf, to be honest the blah blah is rather irritating I think someone else is going to a better helper here
[02:34] <K1rk> olskolirc: I do admit I am running Precise on my new server. It's a very nice release and I have no complatins about it except the Unity packaged with it in Desktop Edition.
[02:34] <yeats> xisor: nope - I'm using one now
[02:34] <erict> olskolirc: did you try doing any alternate iso's? or the minimalist remix?
[02:34] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:34] <ace7> k1rk, where I can find the places menu?
[02:34] <xisor> 64 gigs gonna be big enough? its not gonna have any music or videos on it
[02:34] <K1rk> ace7 oh shit are you on Unity? There isn't exactly a Places menu on unity.
[02:35] <xangua> !language | K1rk
[02:35] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Mkdir test does not work it is still only read access
[02:35] <olskolirc> no errict my first install was an upgrade from 11.10 on the command line
[02:35] <K1rk> -.-
[02:35] <chuldaf> I'm trying to put a clean install of Ubuntu 10.04 on my computer, but it keeps failing. Can anyone guide me through how they would do it with a usb drive?
[02:35] <ace7> I 'm extremly new to ubuntu..
[02:35] <olskolirc> should have matched the first time
[02:35] <K1rk> IT people don't use nice language.
[02:35] <chuldaf> I've done it before with a CD, but never with USB
[02:35] <Blackshirt> Xisor, there are some guide about ssd disk, look at suite filesystem, tweaking for some filesystem
[02:36] <erict> ah I read about some people having trouble doing upgrade, better to go from a usb
[02:36] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[02:36] <LordOfTime> K1rk:  we have a policy in this channel about foul language, please follow it.
[02:36] <K1rk> deusr: Looking at your paste.
[02:36] <xangua> ace7: clic on the ubuntu icon or hit your Windows key to show the dash, all files, apps, etc. are there
[02:36] <dj_segfault> IBMHPGOOGLE: Maybe even though you booted off LiveCD it mounted your hard drive anyway?
[02:36] <reisio> ace7: mountable drives should show up on the left in the file manager I would think
[02:36] <reisio> ace7: but for those Windows ones you may well want to add them explicitly to /etc/fstab
[02:36] <xangua> ace7: you can keep que Windows/Super button pressed to show you how to use it
[02:37] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, I just bought a 32GB flash drive. Is there a way to have Windows PE on it and install Ubuntu on it at the same time?
[02:37] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: yup
[02:37] <deusr> K1rk, ??
[02:37] <IBMHPGOOGLE> What do you mean
[02:37] <chuldaf> CAN ANYONE GUIDE ME THROUGH PUTTING A FRESH 10.04 INSTALL ON THIS SHITTY LAPTOP WITH A USB STICK?
[02:37] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, May I ask how please? :)
[02:37] <xangua> !caps | chuldaf
[02:37] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: I doubt there are any special steps
[02:37] <xisor> does there exist ATI drivers prior to the latest version that i can install still?
[02:37] <sinistrad> I installed 12.04 64-bit on a fresh partition, and my sound stopped working. Sound has been working since 9.04. Here is a paste of configs/logs: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b73308f5bd30eb10871163137b1da094e5fa6cd
[02:37] <xisor> the newest driver phased support out for my card
[02:37] <xisor> so cant use it
[02:38] <K1rk> !language | chuldaf
[02:38] <erict> #xubuntu
[02:38] <chuldaf> can anyone guide me through putting a fresh 10.04 install on this gosh golly laptop with a usb stick?
[02:38] <olskolirc> why are we talking about occupy reisio?  I miss Sabu :-(
[02:38] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: if GRUB doesn't detect it as an OS, you'd just add a listing manually in grub.cfg
[02:38] <Blackshirt> Ibmhpgoogle, remount it read write, but do it with your risk
[02:38] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, but with the windows pe, there isn't really an installation process.
[02:38] <yobsoggoth> Hello - I have a video problem.  I have a radeon 4200 series video card, and am using the proprietary driver to increase video performance.  My system, however, doesnt take that into consideration and one of the updates I applied today has caused my system to not load except into a command shell.  I am currently looking over /var/log/apt/history.log and can probably find the previous version of whichever the offending update(s) in
[02:38] <reisio> olskolirc: huh?
[02:38] <bazhang> chuldaf, get unetbootin
[02:38] <olskolirc> occupy demonoid
[02:38] <xisor> chuldaf do you want to use the usb stick only to install to the laptop hard drive?
[02:38] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, would that be hard to do?
[02:38] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: In a situation like that you likely have a driver conflict.
[02:38] <bazhang> olskolirc, lets stay on topic
[02:38] <yobsoggoth> This is not the first time this has happened, and I understand the complication of using a proprietary driver
[02:39] <chuldaf> xisor: yes
[02:39] <olskolirc> k
[02:39] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: nope
[02:39] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Typically that solution involves blacklisting drivers you're not wanting to use. I don't have any ATI hardware in production...
[02:39] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22windows%20pe%22%20%22grub%22
[02:39] <chuldaf> bazhang: I tried unetbootin and it failed with "error 2" errors on every step of the install
[02:39] <xisor> chuldaf: someone just helped me with a usb install, i forgot the command to give the bot
[02:39] <ace7> reisio, the mountable drive that I want is no longer there..., before installing ubunto, I boot on pendrive and I still can see and mount my partition D and E on sidebar
[02:39] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, alright thank you.
[02:39] <OccupyDemonoid> olskolirc, yes?
[02:39] <olskolirc> ohhhh OccupyDemonoid ok
[02:39] <yobsoggoth> i see
[02:39] <bazhang> chuldaf, then you need to md5 the iso
[02:39] <xisor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:40] <chuldaf> bazhang: I did
[02:40] <olskolirc> nothing OccupyDemonoid I thought he was talking about some anon stuff I missed but I can't speak on it
[02:40] <xisor> has step by step instructions
[02:40] <chuldaf> It's fin
[02:40] <yobsoggoth> So is it possible to get my system to load without having to reinstall 12.04 again?
[02:40] <chuldaf> *fine
[02:40] <xisor> they gave them to me and it works fine
[02:40] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Try lsmod | grep ati, let me know what the output of that is.
[02:40] <xisor> instructions for windows, mac, and ubuntu users on how to set it up
[02:40] <alFReD-NSH> I just made a clean install. Anyone know why I'm having apache running?
[02:40] <xisor> was super easy!
[02:40] <reisio> ace7: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l, and sudo blkid
[02:40] <reisio> alFReD-NSH: 'cause you used the server edition?
[02:40] <chuldaf> Does anyone know of the instructions xisor is talkin about for usb installing a fresh copy of ubuntu?
[02:40] <Brustofski-Fan> Can i un do the update of a ppa repo?
[02:40] <yobsoggoth> pata_apiixp   13204  0
[02:40] <xisor> chuldaf: i just linked you them
[02:40] <xisor> chuldaf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:41] <yobsoggoth> er atiixp
[02:41] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:41] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:41] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:41] <chuldaf> xisor: ty :)
[02:41] <FloodBot1> deusr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <K1rk> Bahaha
[02:41] <xisor> chuldaf: they have full instructions there, works from 10.04 or newer
[02:41] <xisor> chuldaf: so just follow those :D
[02:41] <bazhang> Brustofski-Fan, use ppa-purge
[02:41] <alFReD-NSH> 	
[02:41] <alFReD-NSH> reisio: No I'm having desktop. Even for server you have to do something like `tasksell lamp`
[02:41] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | Brustofski-Fan
[02:41] <xisor> chuldaf: i just did them for 12.04 and it worked perfectly, im about to reboot into it and ill be back for help with my video drivers! brb
[02:41] <yobsoggoth> Sometimes I do not feel smart enough to be using linux.
[02:41] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Can you give me the output of lsmod | grep ati?
[02:42] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Be happy to help ya out.
[02:42] <Blackshirt> Alfred-nsh, just install apache2
[02:42] <bazhang> chuldaf, then you will need to try to 'burn ' it again
[02:42] <chuldaf> xisor: ty
[02:42] <ace7> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009049/
[02:42] <chuldaf> bazhang: what do you mean burn it? I downloaded the iso, I think usb-creator will prep the usb stick right?
[02:42] <jgalt> trying to get ndis wrapper installed and my wifi card working on 12.04 seems ndiswrapper is not found when I try 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[02:42] <yobsoggoth> Kirk: pata_atiixp  13204  0
[02:42] <alFReD-NSH> Blackshirt: well I already am having it. Just asking why is it there in default
[02:43] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: That's the only line? Hmm, maybe it's not a driver conflict, it looks like you only have one driver loaded.
[02:43] <bazhang> chuldaf, which is why I put 'burn' in quotes. try the unetbootin again
[02:43] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Typically in a driver conflict situation you'll have 2-4 lines of output.
[02:43] <yobsoggoth> yeah, I think it is an update from earlier today.  I see there are some xserver-xord-core:amd64 and related updates that might have dorked my video
[02:43] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Did you do any kernel updates?
[02:44] <yobsoggoth> checking
[02:44] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: When I do kernel updates I have to recompile my nvidia driver.
[02:44] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: If you did kernel updates, booting into the old kernel will "fix" it.  Or reinstall the proprietary driver.
[02:44] <Brustofski-Fan> bazhang, and that will remove those packages and put back the ubuntu packages?
[02:44] <wa5qjh> Ahhh, I'm more3 or less back but for how long I dont know.
[02:44] <reisio> ace7: how many hard disks do you have?
[02:45] <jgalt> how can I get ndis wrapper running in the kernel?
[02:45] <yobsoggoth> kirk> would linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic:amd64 be a kernel update?
[02:45] <chuldaf> bazhang: usb-creator looks promising this time. lemme give it a shot. prolly brb
[02:45] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Yeah probably.
[02:45] <yobsoggoth> great
[02:45] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Do you still have whatever binary file you ran to install the ATI driver? Running that again should compile the kernel modules for the new kernel.
[02:45] <wa5qjh> I am actually in the jungles of the Philippines on an island called Samar  and a town called Tarangnan, Using  a USB broadband modem from Smart.com.ph
[02:46] <ace7> only 1, 250GB.. on windows I hve 3 partition, C,D and E.. right now I want to access D and E
[02:46] <xisor> i am back
[02:46] <ace7> there are lots of files in there
[02:46] <yobsoggoth> Yes I still have it
[02:46] <xisor> oh hey it detected my amd drivers automatically and said "do you want to install restricted drivers?" thats really awesome
[02:46] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Try running it like you're doing a fresh install.  9/10 odds that'll fix it.
[02:46] <xisor> i thought it was gonna be hard like it used to be way back when :O
[02:46] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah Ubuntu's driver support has far surpassed even Microsoft's. :P
[02:47] <yobsoggoth> kirk> ok trying it now, will see if it works
[02:47] <xisor> got one very important question tho..... why doesnt my right speaker work on my laptop built in speaker?
[02:47] <xisor> left works fine... right doesnt
[02:47] <xisor> any way to fix?
[02:47] <K1rk> xisor: This is a stupid question but: Have you checked the balance in the audio mixer? lol
[02:47] <xisor> K1rk: yes lol
[02:48] <K1rk> I can't say I've ever heard that one before.
[02:48] <xisor> K1rk: i was using audio mixer to test them, right makes no sound left is fine, balance is set properly
[02:48] <wa5qjh> How many of you will be here 24 hours from now? Sunday is always bad here, and I have a shopping list of odd problems to discuss.??
[02:48] <K1rk> xisor: What's your sound card?
[02:49] <xisor> K1rk:  its a realtek HD, specific model not sure
[02:49] <K1rk> xisor: lspci | grep Audio
[02:49] <xisor> K1rk: i do that in a terminal right?
[02:49] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah
[02:49] <olskolirc> I'm about to load a whole lotta xchat plugin scripts
[02:49] <xisor> how do i get one up with this new ui?
[02:49] <trism> jgalt: install ndiswrapper-dkms, the ndiswrapper kernel module is not built by default in the kernel in 12.04
[02:49] <xisor> never seen anythin like this before lol
[02:49] <K1rk> xisor this is Unity? Go to the launcher and start typing "Terminal" (upper left corner is launcher)
[02:50] <xisor> sweet
[02:50] <reisio> alt+f2, same as ever
[02:50] <reisio> or ctrl+alt+t, same as ever
[02:50] <xisor> do i need to use pastebin to paste 2 lines?
[02:50] <K1rk> reisio: Oh cool, never knew ctrl+alt+t
[02:50] <reisio> :p
[02:50] <K1rk> xisor: Nah I wouldn't worry about it.
[02:50] <xisor> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) 01:05.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[02:50] <olskolirc> put it all on one line xisor
[02:51] <reisio> >3 is tradition
[02:51] <xisor> HDMI is one, Analog is the other
[02:51] <tshauck> hi, I'm interested in playing around with cloudera's hadoop VM for KVM… any thoughts on what I might need to install it? link: https://ccp.cloudera.com/display/SUPPORT/Cloudera's+Hadoop+Demo+VM
[02:51] <xisor> azalia being the analog, built in + audio jacks
[02:52] <yuri__> olskolirc, thanks for the idea about bleachbit. Trying it right now. It appears to be similar to ccleaner for Win. Running free space wipe and then running the rest of the scanners. Hopefully it will start working better later tonight. :)
[02:52] <K1rk> xisor: Hmm, doing a little bit of Googling but I don't see much so far.
[02:53] <xisor> K1rk: oh... so no way to fix?
[02:53] <yobsoggoth> kirk> reinstalled and rebooted - will now need to re-fix my dual monitors, but it came up all the way into my xwindows this time
[02:53] <K1rk> xisor: Well with the more detailed info about the hardware which you provided, myself and others in the channel are more able to help.
[02:53] <K1rk> So far I don't see much...
[02:53] <xisor> K1rk: i need to restart for amd driver activation, i will be right back
[02:53]  * yobsoggoth bows before K1rk
[02:53] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: lol, no problem dude.
[02:54] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Been there a few too many times with my nVidia stuff.
[02:54] <alusion> how do I start compiz?
[02:54] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: I got lazy and kept using Grub to boot into old kernels for like weeks at a time, because I couldn't find 2 minutes to rerun the binary. haha.
[02:55] <foxmulder881> K1rk, i'm also guily of that.
[02:55] <K1rk> foxmulder881: rofl
[02:55] <sinistrad> If anyone is interested, this worked for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/933209
[02:55] <yobsoggoth> k1rk> lol Yes, last time I just backed up and upgraded to 12.04 as my "fix"
[02:56] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Ahh well now you know what to do.
[02:56] <K1rk> You know, I'm really starting to like irssi.
[02:56] <yobsoggoth> k1rk> yes, uninstall the update manager :)
[02:57] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: lmao nah. Just don't blindly do updates.
[02:57] <AlbireoX`Laptop> K1rk: Try Konversation :)
[02:57] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: I used to use Konversation a lot but it wasn't very responsive over NX.
[02:57] <yobsoggoth> nods, thanks again dude
[02:57] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: np
[02:57] <AlbireoX`Laptop> Oh
[02:57] <xisor> K1rk: i am back
[02:57] <xisor> K1rk: which brings me to another question, how to tell if my amd driver is working?
[02:57] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: I actually really like it, it's just that it wasn't performing that well.
[02:58] <AlbireoX`Laptop> Works well for me :/
[02:58] <K1rk> xisor: Best way to see drivers loaded is "lsmod".  If you do "lsmod | grep audio" you should have a pretty good idea what's loaded.
[02:58] <foxmulder881> i never liked irssi.
[02:58] <xisor> no i meant my video driver :P
[02:58] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: I'm sure it works fine on normal desktops, but I usually do IRC on my remote server with NX remote desktop.
[02:58] <AlbireoX`Laptop> I see
[02:58] <K1rk> I just hop on irssi when I'm lazy but recently I've started getting hooked.
[02:59] <AlbireoX`Laptop> oh, remote desktop, ok.
[02:59]  * AlbireoX`Laptop didn't know what NX was
[02:59] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: Yeah NX is pretty much like real-time, but there are some apps it just doesn't like. Skype is always a little laggy too. I don't really know why.
[02:59] <AlbireoX`Laptop> Weird
[02:59] <K1rk> I think it may have to do with additional libraries the app uses or something.
[02:59] <K1rk> Konversation needs to install a lot of libraries when I install it on Gnome or XFCE
[03:00] <AlbireoX`Laptop> yeah
[03:00] <xisor> 1900fps in glxgears = my video acceleration is working?
[03:00] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: Look at the PPA for freenx-team.  Freenx is a great remote desktop server for Linux.  NX uses very little bandwidth and performs nearly realtime.
[03:00] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: Which is sweet becuase I have a Linux server in a datacenter, so this is the gateway to my 100Mbit computer.
[03:01] <xisor> ok so back to the issue at hand.... any way to fix my right speaker?
[03:01] <K1rk> Oh, right, the speaker.
[03:01] <K1rk> That's really strange dude. Usually that isn't software....
[03:01] <xisor> works in windows, beyond that i have no idea
[03:01] <K1rk> xisor: For kicks try plugging in headphones. I'm curious if the right channel is out on those too.
[03:01] <xisor> im pretty much a noob at linux
[03:02] <xisor> dont have any headphones K1rk
[03:02] <K1rk> Or speakers....
[03:02] <xisor> dont have
[03:02] <K1rk> Hmph.
[03:03] <K1rk> xisor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694113  <- Maybe you're not crazy
[03:04] <harushimo> question for the group
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> xisor: probably, install tuxracer and test :)
[03:04] <K1rk> !ask | harushimo
[03:04] <harushimo> I have a unallocated 1tb hard disk. I want to turn into virtual machine
[03:05] <K1rk> harushimo: "Turn into a virtual machine"? please elaborate...
[03:05] <xisor> K1rk: so its not just me
[03:05] <K1rk> xisor: Evidently not. You might try the stuff suggested in the last reply on that thread. Looks...promising.
[03:05] <harushimo> what is the best way to allocate the 1tb hard disk? what is a good program to setup the partition?
[03:05] <K1rk> harushimo: Personally I like gparted. (apt-get install gparted)
[03:05] <xisor> ActionParsnip: tuxracer isnt found when i try sudo apt-get install
[03:05] <harushimo> I have gparted
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: gparted, but virtual machines by default will be stored in your home folder/
[03:06] <K1rk> harushimo: Gparted is pretty straightforward. You'll want to make an ext4 or ext3 partition.
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> !find tuxracer
[03:06] <sgalvez> gparted can do the work
[03:06] <harushimo> alright I will do that
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> xisor: extremetuxracer
[03:06] <harushimo> what directory should I mount that too?
[03:06] <reisio> xisor: apt-cache search race
[03:06] <xisor> ActionParsnip: ty
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: virtualbox can read ISOs as they stand, no need tomount them
[03:06] <reisio> harushimo: /mnt/zomg1000jiggabits
[03:06] <xisor> K1rk:  is it safe to go messing with things like that? im pretty new
[03:07] <K1rk> xisor: Define "safe". If you screw something up just wipe and reinstall, lol.
[03:07] <harushimo> oh really?
[03:07] <xisor> K1rk: what do i use to edit the file its telling me?
[03:08] <harushimo> I want to mess around with cloud software. That is why I'm setting up a virtual machine
[03:08] <K1rk> xisor: nano, vi, emacs - whatever floats your boat. I'm a nano guy.
[03:08] <K1rk> sudo nano /path/to/file.conf
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: yes
[03:08] <marloshouse> when I sudo sh into a root session (or any other user session for that matter) my "up-arrow" (recall last command) stops working.  how do I fix that?
[03:08] <K1rk> xisor: In nano, CTRL+W will let you do a search in the file. So CTRL+W and then type "options snd-hda" and hit enter and it'll take you right to that line.
[03:09] <harushimo> ok
[03:09] <K1rk> xisor: Then CTRL+X to exit, Y to save the file. Enter.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: you could make a patition and store the files there but symlink them back to your home folder
[03:09] <harushimo> that is a good idea
[03:09] <harushimo> let me first partition the drive
[03:09] <harushimo> gparted is loading up right now
[03:10] <xisor> K1rk:  that line doesnt even exist in my conf file
[03:10] <K1rk> xisor: Interesting. I thought your lspci said it was Intel HD Audio.
[03:11] <K1rk> xisor: I'm a bit new to this too. Usually my ALSA stuff has "just worked".
[03:11] <K1rk> xisor: So I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics, I'm looking at my alsa-base.conf now
[03:11] <guest65536> ActionParsnip thanks for your help a few hours ago, I got my refresh rate issue sorted out by editing the xorg.conf file. Running at 60hz now.
[03:12] <K1rk> xisor: I do not have that line in my conf either and I'm pretty sure I have Intel audio too.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> guest65536: nice :)
[03:13] <xisor> ActionParsnip: if i get 51 - 57fps in tuxracer does that mean my acceleration is working?
[03:13] <xisor> K1rk: so what do i do?
[03:13] <K1rk> xisor: I'm slightly discouraged to see so many threads about similar problems on the Ubuntu Forums with no responses.... still looking, haven't given up on you yet.
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> xisor: yes thats great :D
[03:14] <xisor> ActionParsnip: woot! i thought it was gonna be hard, apparently it used to be really hard to get ati cards working lol
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> guest65536: sounds like you monitor isn't reporting correctly like ood screens do. I suggest you backup the xorg.conf file you have so you can simply copy it back on a new install in the future and be where you are now
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> xisor: some can, I always buy nvidia
[03:15] <K1rk> xisor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10775892&postcount=5
[03:15] <K1rk> xisor: Try that. Maybe running the latest kernel modules will help.
[03:16] <K1rk> xisor: If you can't run "apt-add-repository" because it does not exist, run (apt-get install python-software-properties) to install apt-add-repository.
[03:16] <xisor> K1rk:  should i do these 151 updates ubuntu says it has for me first?
[03:16] <xisor> K1rk: or no?>
[03:16] <guest65536> ActionParsnip thanks. I made a backup before and after the change. Adding 'Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"' fixed it.
[03:16] <K1rk> xisor: Dunno if that will matter or not.
[03:17] <K1rk> xisor: I mean it won't hurt to do it or not to do it, just maybe one of them is the fix you need. :P
[03:17] <K1rk> xisor: Sorry to just poke in the dark like this but this is how weird problems like this have to be solved. I work in IT professionally and this is how we have to solve most of our problems, it's just the user doesn't typically see it. :P
[03:18] <xisor> K1rk: whats the command line for updating all the packages? the icon that was there befor emy reboot about having updates isnt there anymorer
[03:18] <xisor> K1rk: anymore*
[03:18] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[03:18] <K1rk> xisor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[03:19] <K1rk> That'll install ALL updates.
[03:19] <xisor> K1rk: and none of that will break my pc?
[03:19] <K1rk> xisor: Nah
[03:19] <harushimo> i got gparted loaded
[03:19] <reisio> harushimo: don't brag
[03:19] <K1rk> harushimo: It took that long to open Gparted?
[03:19] <K1rk> You may have...erm, other issues.
[03:19] <reisio> K1rk: load
[03:19] <harushimo> it was running for a while
[03:20] <reisio> should've been tired and easy to catch, then
[03:20] <harushimo> for some odd gparted, its take awhile
[03:20] <harushimo> it was scanning the devices
[03:20] <reisio> if you have a lot of disks they might've had to spin up
[03:20] <reisio> right
[03:20] <harushimo> I have two hard drives
[03:20] <K1rk> That explains it. Should've unplugged your 26 flash drives first harushimo .
[03:20] <xisor> K1rk: 3 mins to fetch the updates, after that ill try that link you gave me and see if it fixes it ok?
[03:20] <harushimo> haha
[03:20] <harushimo> nice
[03:20] <harushimo> it wasn't
[03:20] <harushimo> I've noticed that with gparted
[03:20] <manadys> K1rk: and that's what's awesome about Linux
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: The command I sent you has 3 different download processes. It may be a bit longer than 3 mins. That may just be this phase.
[03:21] <manadys> no limit to the number of independent drives
[03:21] <harushimo> it can take up 10 mins sometime for gparted to load
[03:21] <harushimo> I still don't understand why
[03:21] <K1rk> manadys: No one thing is awesome about Linux. Linux is just awesome all around.
[03:21] <manadys> windows would die with about 24 partitions
[03:21] <xisor> K1rk: its on phase 2 already, the first one took like 8 seconds :P
[03:21] <manadys> K1rk: touche
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: The 1st one just refreshes your package lists.
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: 2nd downloads updates
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: 3rd hits out any kernel upgrades needed.
[03:21] <xisor> K1rk: the only non awesome thing about linux is nobody makes games for linux :( have to have windows pretty much
[03:22] <K1rk> xisor: I sort of still do the same. Halo runs in WINE but not very well.
[03:22] <harushimo> Is it better to do two partitions or one for virtual machine
[03:22] <K1rk> xisor: Oddly enough Halo dedicated servers run great in WINE. I have a Linux datacenter hosted server that runs Halo CE dedicated servers smashingly.
[03:22] <harushimo> I was going to use the whole hard drive
[03:22] <xisor> K1rk: try running a game made this year in wine, it probably wont and definately wont run well
[03:22] <harushimo> as a virtual machine
[03:23] <K1rk> harushimo: Just do 1 partition, no benefit to 2. lol
[03:23] <xisor> K1rk:  thats ok tho, my windows machine is a gaming pc, and way too much hardware power for linux, have linux on this laptop :D
[03:23] <harushimo> alright
[03:23] <harushimo> use ext 4 right
[03:23] <K1rk> harushimo: When you do your VM you can partition the VM however you want still.
[03:23] <K1rk> yeah ext4 is good
[03:23] <harushimo> ok
[03:23] <manadys> xisor: isn't that an oxymoron?
[03:23] <xisor> manadys: what?
[03:23] <manadys> too much hardware power for linux...
[03:23] <harushimo> there is label option in gparted
[03:23] <K1rk> xisor: I did the same for a long time. But my desktop is now 4 years old and I've made my gaming desktop Linux now. My laptop is dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu, and since it has 2GB nVidia graphics I can play recent games on that.
[03:23] <harushimo> just fill that with a random name?
[03:24] <Harris> can i download and run xchat on a cd
[03:24] <K1rk> harushimo: Or do the more sensible, and leave it blank. :P
[03:24] <manadys> tell that to the movie studios and space agencies using linux...
[03:24] <xisor> manadys: lol, unless im compiling something, i dont need a 6 core sandy bridge with 64 gigs of ram on linux :P and im not a programmer XD
[03:24] <K1rk> Harris: Do you mean a Live CD?
[03:24] <harushimo> i was going to do
[03:24] <harushimo> hehe
[03:24] <Harris> K1rk, no a normal cd
[03:24] <K1rk> Harris: I don't quite follow what you want to do. You're looking for like a portable apps version of xchat?
[03:25] <Harris> K1rk,  my work does not let me install things
[03:25] <K1rk> Harris: Your work is using Ubuntu? I'm impressed.
[03:25] <harushimo> its done
[03:25] <harushimo> the partition is now created
[03:25] <Harris> no windows xp K1rk
[03:25] <K1rk> Harris: Oh then what are you doing here in #ubuntu? lol
[03:26] <Harris> isnt it available for windows
[03:26] <K1rk> Harris: www.silverex.org
[03:26] <Harris> K1rk,  how do i put it on a disk to run
[03:26] <xisor> K1rk: does netflix work in linux? it requires silverlight to work in windows
[03:26] <reisio> xisor: not so far
[03:26] <K1rk> xisor: I don't think so. Although there is a Silverlight "replacement" called Moonlight that will work for web apps.
[03:26] <xisor> reisio: oh...
[03:26] <reisio> they claim to be working on a Linux client
[03:26] <reisio> but they've done that before, and reneged
[03:26] <xisor> how am i supposed to watch my netflix then?
[03:26] <manadys> ok, non-technical piece of advice...
[03:26] <reisio> xisor: hulu plus
[03:27] <manadys> when dealing with stinging insects...
[03:27] <xisor> reisio: hulu isnt netflix, nor does it have the same content :P
[03:27] <Harris> ActionParsnip,  do you have compiz
[03:27] <manadys> make sure you *kill* them with the first swat...
[03:27] <reisio> xisor: the reverse is also true, and? =P
[03:27] <reisio> manadys: why swat at all
[03:27] <K1rk> Harris: Depending on how your work is restricting you, you might not be able to run Xchat off a CD. (I am IT.)
[03:27] <xisor> and i want to be able to watch my netflix on my laptop stll
[03:27] <harushimo> hulu works great on linux
[03:27] <K1rk> Harris: at my work we restrict the EXEs you can run on your computer.
[03:27] <reisio> xisor: you'll want to keep Windows for that
[03:27] <Harris> ok
[03:27] <harushimo> I haven't try hulu plus
[03:27] <manadys> reisio: because the vacuum was inside...
[03:27] <xisor> dont have windows on here anymore reisio
[03:27] <Harris> K1rk,  do you have compiz
[03:27] <K1rk> Harris: However renaming xchat.exe to something like "winword.exe" would probably enable you to run it despite our restrictions. Bahahaha
[03:28] <reisio> manadys: why vacuum
[03:28] <reisio> xisor: no netflix for you, then
[03:28] <K1rk> Harris: www.portableapps.com - it looks like they might be working on an xchat, I see a download link there for Xchat Portable 2.8.6
[03:28] <manadys> to get rid of the bug...
[03:28] <xisor> reisio: when did they say a linux client would be out?
[03:28] <K1rk> Harris: www.portableapps.com is a site you might find useful in general for bypassing your IT's installation restrictions.
[03:28] <Harris> ok
[03:28] <reisio> xisor: "soon" :p
[03:28] <xisor> reisio: so mac users cant watch netflix either? only windows?
[03:28] <Harris> K1rk,  do you have compiz
[03:28] <reisio> xisor: Mac OS has silverlight, IIRC
[03:29] <xisor> reisio: oh
[03:29] <K1rk> Harris: http://portableapps.com/node/15971
[03:29] <reisio> xisor: got a mobile phone?
[03:29] <K1rk> Harris, I can't use Compiz on my desktop PC because it's incompatible with Xinerama. But I do have Compiz on my laptop.
[03:29] <xisor> reisio: yes, but i dont want to watch netflix on a 5 inch screen
[03:29] <Harris> K1rk,  on compiz all of the boxes next to the setting is grey and uncheckable
[03:30] <K1rk> Harris: Whaaa? Next to what setting? I'm confused I thought you were on Windows, lol
[03:30] <xisor> reisio: ill just use my gaming pc i guess
[03:30] <Harris> not anymore
[03:30] <xisor> K1rk: ok updates are all done, firefox says it wants to be reloaded brb
[03:30] <Harris> on my personal laptop i have compiz
[03:30] <harushimo> i'm just curious does gparted work on other platforms?
[03:30] <K1rk> xisor: karakedi
[03:30] <K1rk> xisor: k **
[03:30] <harushimo> or is it mainly an linux program?
[03:30] <Harris> in compiz the settings are grey and unclickable
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: shuold do
[03:30] <harushimo> I have mac and windows machine
[03:31] <harushimo> its more for my windows machine
[03:31] <EliahKagan> GParted only runs on Linux, but you can use GParted on a live CD to operate on partitions for non-Linux OSes
[03:31] <K1rk> Harris: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[03:31] <K1rk> Sorry I meant harushimo: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[03:31] <xisor> K1rk: ok back
[03:31] <xisor> K1rk: doing that link stuff now, its safe to do right?
[03:31] <K1rk> harushimo: You can grab a Live CD there and run Gparted on any computer to modify partitions.
[03:31] <K1rk> xisor: Link stuff...apt-add-repository and the like? Yeah
[03:31] <EliahKagan> there's even an official GParted liveCD (not affiliated with the Ubuntu project) that has the latest version and is smaller than an Ubuntu desktop CD (because it doesn't give a fully functional desktop system or let you install an OS)
[03:32] <harushimo> I see that now
[03:32] <xisor> K1rk: what do i need to do to get repository again?
[03:32] <Harris> K1rk,  in compiz how do you add the burn effect
[03:32] <K1rk> xisor: apt-get install python-software-properties
[03:32] <xisor> already installed
[03:32] <K1rk> Harris: Is it not installed or what?
[03:32] <reisio> xisor: connect it to the big screen :p
[03:33] <K1rk> xisor: Then apt-add-repository should work as expected from the link.
[03:33] <Harris> K1rk,  i need to know how to install and enable the burn effect
[03:33] <K1rk> Harris: I don't know which Compiz package that's in. but if you do (apt-get install compiz-*) I think that should install all effects.
[03:33] <flank> How to stop compiz?
[03:33] <K1rk> flank: Flank it.
[03:34] <flank> ???
[03:34] <K1rk> flank: metacity --replace
[03:35] <K1rk> flank: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#Troubleshooting
[03:35] <xisor> it cant find any packages by that name K1rk
[03:35] <xisor> after i added the repository, on the next step
[03:35] <flank> and then how to start it?
[03:35] <carranca> join petrolina
[03:35] <K1rk> xisor: Pastebin the output of (apt-cache search linux-alsa-driver)
[03:35] <xisor> how do i do that?
[03:36] <K1rk> xisor: while you're at it throw in the output of uname -r
[03:36] <xisor> 3.2.0-24.generic-pae is uname-r
[03:36] <K1rk> xisor: run the command in terminal, highlight it, right click, copy. Go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and pastebin it
[03:37] <flank> ???
[03:37] <K1rk> flank: compiz --replace
[03:37] <K1rk> ?
[03:37] <K1rk> flank: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#Run_Compiz
[03:37] <xisor> there are no results for linux-alsa-driver
[03:37] <xisor> it just ends, nothing is listed at all
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: wtf really?
[03:38] <xisor> ya
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: Apparently that repository doesn't work as advertised, lmao
[03:38] <harushimo> okay I setup my partition. how I created a symbol link to my directory with my new partition or mount it
[03:38] <harushimo> ?
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: Actually, are you on Precise (12.04)? It looks like you are.
[03:38] <xisor> yes i am
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: Maybe the ubunt-audio-dev repository doesn't have anything for Precise yet.
[03:38] <K1rk> *ubuntu
[03:39] <xisor> so then i cant fix it?
[03:39] <K1rk> xisor: Not that way.
[03:39] <K1rk> xisor: Don't give up so easily. :P
[03:40] <K1rk> xisor: Is this an Acer laptop by chance?
[03:40] <xisor> K1rk: yes it is how did you know?
[03:40] <olskolirc> Put an ampersand on it & K1rk or compiz to get your terminal back
[03:40] <K1rk> xisor: Because all these results are Acer problems.
[03:40] <xisor> K1rk: any way to fix?
[03:40] <Harris> K1rk,  how do i add burn to compiz
[03:41] <K1rk> Harris: ccsm - look in there
[03:41] <Harris> what is ccsm
[03:41] <K1rk> Harris: compiz settings manager, run that in terminal
[03:41] <Harris> K1rk,  how do i add burn to the list
[03:41] <K1rk> xisor: It looks like, in a roundabout way, this IS an Acer hardware problem. I don't know how it works on Windows tbh, given what I'm reading here
[03:41] <Harris> what do i type in the terminal
[03:42] <K1rk> Harris: ccsm
[03:42] <xisor> K1rk: what are you reading?
[03:42] <xisor> K1rk: i get both speakers in windows just fine
[03:42] <_jon180_> how do i get unity 3d to work in 12.04 with my nvidia graphics card?
[03:42] <xisor> K1rk: it uses realteks drivers in windows, its realtek HD audio
[03:42] <Harris> K1rk,  burn is not listed
[03:43] <hk19> Drivers are available
[03:44] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[03:44] <vajrapani666> No matter what i search, this silly command "apt-show-versions" keeps coming up, but it only shows local versions
[03:44] <xisor> K1rk: do you know if hdmi audio works correctly? and also if i can switch to external screen only and shut off the internal screen?
[03:45] <K1rk> xisor: Dunno about hdmi audio. Your screen question is something you should be able to do in the Monitor settings.
[03:45] <K1rk> xisor: I have another thing you can try.
[03:45] <xisor> K1rk: how about settings so it doesnt go to sleep when i close the lid?
[03:45] <xisor> K1rk: what is it?
[03:45] <K1rk> xisor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695807
[03:45] <vajrapani666> I need to know the exact command to install an older version of firefox, and i would prefer not to build from source. I've looked up the .deb package on launchpad and downloaded that, but dpkg -i will not resolve dependencies.. There must be someway to do this using apt-get !
[03:46] <_jon180_> i see several bug reports for nvidia graphics cards and unity 3d but they are unclear which apply to me and what the solutions are, can someone help me figure these out?
[03:46] <jagginess> vajrapani666, you can download previous versions from the mozilla site..
[03:46] <xisor> K1rk: so i should set it up as if it only had the 1 speaker even though it has 2?
[03:46] <xisor> K1rk: wont that sound bad?
[03:46] <yugnip> can you grab it from synaptic and force then pin the version vajrapani666
[03:46] <K1rk> xisor: That's what it sounds like your laptop is designed to do.
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk: so you think windows driver just does it automatically and thats why both seem to work?
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk: and its really just 1 speaker?
[03:47] <K1rk> _jon180_: I don't use Unity but I'd be happy to stab at this and help narrow down what applies to you.
[03:47] <K1rk> xisor: From what I read... yes that's exactly what I think is going on.
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk: oh, so that should fix it then
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk:  1 more question , ty for all the help btw
[03:48] <xisor> K1rk: how do i mount a windows shared folder in linux? and have it attempt to do so at every bootup to the same place?
[03:48] <K1rk> _jon180_: Do you know what nvidia card you have?
[03:48] <xisor> K1rk: a network share
[03:48] <_jon180_> not exactly
[03:48] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: there might not be a lot of (or any) dependencies you don't already have, i'd go ahead and try installing the .deb package with dpkg, if you have the .deb package ...just be aware that with an old Firefox version, you will be at high security risk because of very popularly known and exploited vulnerabilities that have been fixed in current versions
[03:48] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah you mean a Samba share
[03:48] <K1rk> xisor: You want to put it in your fstab
[03:48] <_jon180_> K1rk: what is the command to find this?
[03:49] <xisor> K1rk: ya
[03:49] <xisor> K1rk: how?
[03:49] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: you can also install Firefox manually with the binary installer packages from the upstream site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83227/how-can-i-install-a-specific-older-version-of-firefox-and-keep-it-from-automatic
[03:49] <K1rk> xisor: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
[03:49] <vajrapani666> jagginess: those are source distributions,  I'm trying to avoid building manually at all costs because if we ever need to bump up the firefox revisions, i will have to clean out the old version myself (doubt i will remember where i left the src makefile for make uninstall)
[03:49] <K1rk> _jon180_: Ahhh now I see exactly how I can help you. :P
[03:49] <K1rk> _jon180_: lspci | grep nVidia
[03:49] <K1rk> (case sensitive)
[03:50] <xangua> vajrapani666: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/  download the version you want, extract it and run it; and they are not sources just the binary
[03:50] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: you don't have to build manually unless you're using an uncommon architecture -- for the most popular architecture, the Firefox upstream site has *binary installers*
[03:50] <hk19> (xisor) softwares are available 4 auto mounting
[03:50] <K1rk> _jon180_: If that has nor esults just do lspci | grep VGA
[03:50] <vajrapani666> So pinning down the package in synaptic sounds like what i need ... but i'm curious , why provide the apt-get install package=version at all ?
[03:50] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: like xangua is saying
[03:50] <harushimo> is there a way to make new launcher items?
[03:50] <K1rk> harushimo: Yeah, where do you want to make them?
[03:50] <xisor> K1rk: sounds confusing lol
[03:51] <K1rk> xisor: Be happy to walk you through it, I've done it before for sshfs
[03:51] <_jon180_> K1rk: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
[03:51] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: are you asking why you can specific a version to retrieve and install if it might be automatically upgraded to a higher version anyway?
[03:51] <harushimo> right on the desktop and the move them to the launcher
[03:51] <xisor> K1rk: sure, let me use the restroom please brb
[03:51] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: ...or something else?
[03:51] <K1rk> _jon180_: Okay so now you know what you're looking for. Bugs affecting the GeForce 7400
[03:51] <K1rk> xisor: k
[03:51] <harushimo> I know 10.04 there was an option called create icon
[03:51] <harushimo> you can use that to create an icon by doing the path
[03:51] <_jon180_> oh, i meant they provide a fix for nvidia cards, but it does not say how to get the fix
[03:51] <vajrapani666> I'm asking , what is the point of providing the ability to specify the specific version of a package to install (i.e. by t he syntax apt-get install packagename=version) if there is no way to install packages by this method?
[03:52] <K1rk> _jon180_: Oh, my bad.
[03:52] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: you can install packages that way, it works fine if the version you specify is provided in one or more of the software sources (repositories) you have enabled
[03:52] <vajrapani666> By not being able to install packages by this method i mean, there is no way to list the possible versions to install, err.. the list of valid arguments for version for the version-specific apt-get command)
[03:52] <_jon180_> and there are many solutions but none worked, probably because i am not understanding correctly
[03:52] <K1rk> _jon180_: Have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/125608/unity-3d-no-longer-works-after-installing-12-04
[03:53] <xisor> K1rk: back, can use this method to mount hidden shares as well/
[03:53] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah I don't see why not
[03:53] <xisor> K1rk: i hid all my shared folders by using $ at the end of them in windows for the share name
[03:53] <K1rk> xisor: Alright, so you still have that link I gave you?  Just look at the first gray code box.  The //ntserver/docs/...... one
[03:53] <xisor> K1rk: yes
[03:53] <K1rk> xisor: In your terminal type (sudo nano /etc/fstab)
[03:53] <_jon180_> that is one, yes but that was an older solution that had a security concern, i was looking at the code fix that was released, not sure how to get it
[03:54] <K1rk> xisor: okay so you now see your fstab?
[03:54] <xisor> yes
[03:54] <_jon180_> for example, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/982485
[03:54] <K1rk> xisor: Be careful in there, if you mess up fstab you may have to recover with a Live CD because your hard drive won't remount on boot. :P
[03:54] <xisor> K1rk: sounds bad lol
[03:54] <harushimo> oh yeah it is
[03:54] <harushimo> I've done it
[03:54] <K1rk> xisor: Okay that being said, let's get started modifying it. :D
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk: you arent making me feel very good about this
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk:  lol
[03:55] <K1rk> xisor: Go to the bottom line of the file.
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk: ok
[03:55] <vajrapani666> nonethelesss.. thank you for your guys help!
[03:55] <K1rk> xisor: I think fstab is parsed top to bottom so if you screw up on the bottom it won't prevent your other stuff from still working.
[03:55] <K1rk> xisor: You may want to add a comment like "# My Windows Shares"
[03:55] <C0deMaver1ck> what's the best way to install Ubuntu Server on an SD card from a Mac?
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk: ok
[03:56] <K1rk> xisor: Okay so now use the example from the link I gave you.  That should be how you want to mount your smb share.
[03:56] <xisor> K1rk: is there a way to see if my shares even work before i add lines to this?
[03:56] <K1rk> xisor: Sure, "Connect To Server" will let you connect to your samba share.
[03:56] <K1rk> xisor: type in unity launcher.
[03:57] <xisor> they work
[03:57] <xisor> K1rk: ok so use the example?
[03:57] <K1rk> xisor: k cool.  Yeah the example explains how to write the fstab line.
[03:57] <K1rk> xisor: Write 1 fstab line for each Windows share you want to mount.
[03:58] <K1rk> xisor: You'll just be replacing docsadm with your username, D1Y4x9sw with your password, and //ntserver/docs with your share path.
[03:58] <K1rk> xisor: /mnt/samba will be changed to the mountpoint you want your samba mounted to
[03:58] <xisor> can i mount multiple things to the same place?
[03:58] <K1rk> xisor: no
[03:58] <xisor> K1rk: can i do /mnt/windows/mounthere? for each one?
[03:59] <K1rk> xisor: sure
[03:59] <xisor> K1rk: a subfolder of /mnt/windows?
[03:59] <xisor> K1rk: ok
[03:59] <K1rk> xisor: I think that's "for a different distro". Ubuntu it's traditionally /media/windows/mnthere
[03:59] <K1rk> Not that it matters, you can mount it literally anywhere
[03:59] <reisio> /mnt/ is just for manual moint points, is all
[03:59] <xisor> K1rk: will all my apps see it as if it were a local file?
[03:59] <K1rk> xisor: That's the idea.
[03:59] <reisio> /media/ is a convention of gvfs or something, regardless of distro
[04:00] <K1rk> reisio: Ah. I don't really use any non Debian flavors these days. So I just kind of assumed.
[04:00] <reisio> K1rk: just FYI =)
[04:02] <xisor> is there a way to copy and paste a line?
[04:02] <xisor> 99% of each line is the same
[04:02] <xisor> only 2 characters are different lol
[04:02] <K1rk> xisor: Highlight, right click, copy.
[04:02] <K1rk> Go to next line
[04:02] <K1rk> Right click anywhere, paste
[04:02] <K1rk> Or, in nano, ctrl + k to cut, ctrl + u + u to paste twice.
[04:02] <K1rk> lol
[04:02] <harushimo> question for the fstab file
[04:02] <K1rk> harushimo: ShooterMG
[04:02] <K1rk> harushimo: shoot *
[04:02] <K1rk> lol
[04:03] <harushimo> couldn't you make fstab.bak?
[04:03] <K1rk> harushimo: yeah but you'd still have to manually restore it while on a live cd
[04:03] <harushimo> really
[04:03] <K1rk> harushimo: fstab is what tells your computer how to mount /. If you can't mount / you're not going to be booting up.
[04:03] <harushimo> if you mv command on the bak file, it would restore the original settings
[04:03] <harushimo> you are right
[04:03] <K1rk> :P
[04:04] <harushimo> I see what you are saying
[04:04] <xisor> done, how do i save?
[04:04] <K1rk> CTRL +X to exit nano.
[04:04] <K1rk> Press Y to confirm save, hit enter
[04:05] <xisor> done
[04:05] <xisor> do i reboot now/
[04:05] <xisor> and hope i didnt nuke my os?
[04:05] <K1rk> Yeah. If you did, just boot into a live CD, mount your hard drive from the Places menu, and edit fstab. Put a # in front of your new lines.
[04:05] <K1rk> :P
[04:05] <K1rk> I think you'll be fine.
[04:05] <RFrith> how can i install a win7 ?
[04:06] <K1rk> RFrith: Alongside Ubuntu?
[04:06] <reisio> RFrith: just make space for it and install normally
[04:06] <xisor> K1rk: brb, ill reboot and then you can tell me how to find my mounted stuff :D
[04:06] <K1rk> xisor: k
[04:06] <RFrith> will i can't boot ubuntu when installed win7?
[04:07] <harushimo> I didn't get to answer my question
[04:07] <harushimo> hehe
[04:07] <harushimo> just kidding
[04:07] <harushimo> two questions: I want to be able to make desktop icons
[04:07] <rootyourself> hi.  does anyone know what the tegra3 support is like in linux these days?  was interested in getting a transformer prime and installing ubuntu or debian on it
[04:07] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[04:07] <RFrith> reisio: Will i can't boot ubuntu after installing win7?
[04:08] <RFrith> K1rk: Yes
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> rootyourself: could get a trimslice. Those are badass
[04:08] <K1rk> RFrith: If you install Windows after Ubuntu, Microsoft breaks the boot loader.
[04:08] <xangua> !grub2 | 'cause you deleted grub RFrith
[04:08] <K1rk> RFrith: It's better to install Ubuntu second, but if you can't, you can reinstall grub from a live CD.
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk: i am back
[04:09] <rootyourself> ActionParsnip: never seen that.  look really great.  i am only looking at the transformer prime because of travel
[04:09] <K1rk> RFrith: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:09] <K1rk> xisor_: cool
[04:09] <K1rk> xisor_: Glad you didn't bust it up
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk: so wheres my stuff?
[04:09] <reisio> you can also use Windows' boot loader, but it's inferior of course :p
[04:09] <K1rk> Go to where you mounted it, xisor_
[04:09] <RFrith> K1rk: THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk:  how?
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk:  there is nothing in /mnt/
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk: so i think it didnt work
[04:10] <K1rk> Ah maybe because /mnt/windows doesn't exist, xisor_
[04:10] <K1rk> mkdir /mnt/windows then reboot
[04:10] <K1rk> Actually mkdir /mnt/windows/all-your-mountpoints
[04:10] <K1rk> I think the folders have to be there. Sorry I forgot that part
[04:10] <xisor_> K1rk: oh see you never said that XD
[04:10] <K1rk> xisor_: Yeah my bad sorry
[04:10] <K1rk> Long day and I'm multitasking
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> rootyourself: makes sense
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !arm | rootyourself
[04:11] <xisor_> k brb
[04:11] <rootyourself> ActionParsnip: yup.  tegra 3 chipset has had bad support from nvidia in the past and i have not really followed it as a result.  was curious if anyone here knew if there are updates with tegra 3 directly.
[04:12] <xisor> K1rk: i am back, let me look now
[04:13] <reisio> tegra being used for tablets now
[04:13] <xisor> K1rk: my folders are empty, they didnt mount
[04:13] <harushimo> someone suggested a symbol link to my home directory
[04:13] <harushimo> when I'm trying to setup my  vm or mount
[04:14] <harushimo> which is better for vm? mount of the hard drive or symbol link
[04:14] <harushimo> I mean symbolic link
[04:14] <rootyourself> it makes no difference harushimo
[04:15] <harushimo> I'm creating a virtual machine
[04:15] <harushimo> that is why i asked the question
[04:15] <K1rk> xisor: You may have something not quite right in your syntax.
[04:15] <harushimo> I'm guessing it still makes no difference in that aspect
[04:15] <rootyourself> yup, it makes no difference
[04:15] <K1rk> xisor: If you look at /var/log/syslog... perhaps "cat /var/log/syslog | grep samba"
[04:15] <K1rk> xisor: You might get some hints as to what's gone wrong
[04:16] <harushimo> I just created the partition
[04:16] <harushimo> I don't know if it has the systems files on it
[04:16] <xisor> no output from that command
[04:17] <xisor> brb again, i changed my windows pc to all caps, and correctly capitalized theusername, see if that helps
[04:17] <harushimo> I don't see my new partition on fstab
[04:17] <xisor> i think linux is case sensitive
[04:17] <xisor> brb
[04:17] <harushimo> ?
[04:17] <harushimo> I created it using gparted
[04:18] <xisor_> K1rk: i am back
[04:18] <rootyourself> harushimo: that is because you have to add it
[04:18] <xisor_> K1rk: does it wait to bring up networking and connect to my wireless network before it tries doing that?
[04:19] <K1rk> ....interesting point
[04:19] <harushimo> oh okay
[04:19] <K1rk> I don't know......
[04:19] <Harris> when i minimaze and exit a window i want fire to burn it
[04:19] <xisor_> K1rk: how to fix? :P
[04:19] <harushimo> I never mess with the fstab file
[04:19] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[04:20] <harushimo> do I need to setup a mount point in gparted itself?
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Harris, you can do it if compiz effects
[04:20] <rootyourself> well your questions are good but your understanding of what you need to do is lacking
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> in*
[04:20] <rootyourself> gparted can really only create partitions on the disk
[04:20] <Harris> i looked it is not there wilee-nilee
[04:20] <rootyourself> if you created the partition (hopefully not on a drive that you had important data on)
[04:21] <harushimo> is there a program in linux that does both?
[04:21] <rootyourself> then you need to tell fstab what to do with your partition
[04:21] <rootyourself> if it is in fstab, it will be mounted manually
[04:21] <xisor_> ?
[04:21] <Harris> wilee-nilee,  please give me step by step instructions
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> Harris, I'm not in the unity desktop, so I can't give you exact directions.
[04:21] <Harris> !flood
[04:21] <harushimo> oh okay
[04:21] <rootyourself> if you add it to the fstab and don't reboot you can just do mount nameofmountpointfromfstab to mount it
[04:21] <harushimo> gparted has a option called mount point?
[04:22] <rootyourself> http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20edit%20fstab&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t
[04:22] <Harris> wilee-nilee,  the power of google
[04:22] <xisor_> K1rk:  is there another way to do the same thing? such as a batch file run after bootup is completely done?
[04:26] <EliahKagan> harushimo: no, the mount point associated with a partition is in the OS's configuration, not the partition table itself
[04:26] <harushimo> ok
[04:27] <harushimo> how do I mount the partition I just created in gparted
[04:27] <manadys> harushimo: very carefully...
[04:27] <manadys> usually mount /dev/partition /mnt/mountpoint...
[04:27] <manadys> and if you want to have it automount, then you need to add it to fstab...
[04:27] <rootyourself> make a directory, do mount -t ext4 /dev/sdcwhatever
[04:28] <rootyourself> make sure you replace ext4 with the correct fs type on the partition
[04:28] <manadys> rootyourself: why do you need the -t? Doesn't mount detect that when possible?
[04:28] <rootyourself> no
[04:28] <EliahKagan> or you can leave off -t and the partition type -- mount can auto detect it except for really exotic partition types or when there is severe corruption
[04:28] <rootyourself> it can? well nice.  didn't know that
[04:28] <Harris> burn is not in effect list in compiz
[04:28] <EliahKagan> yeah, i leave off -t all the time, and i've never had a problem except when i typed the device name in wrong
[04:29] <EliahKagan> in contrast, with -t will sometimes "work" even if you type in the device name wrong (like leaving off the partition number and mounting the raw drive) ....and that's baaaad...
[04:30] <manadys> wouldn't it also allow you to mount an ext4 partition as ext2...
[04:30] <rootyourself> i have never successfully mounted non enumerated partitions
[04:30] <rootyourself> i'd like to try tho
[04:30] <EliahKagan> some partition types interpret a device name differently though, so if you want to use mount instead of smbmount or mount.cifs to mount a Samba share, you need to specify -t smbfs, because otherwise a device that looks like //hostname/sharename won't make sense to the mount command
[04:30] <manadys> which in theory would be fine, but that would defeat the purpose of using ext4 (assuming my understanding of ext4 is correct)
[04:30] <xisor_> anybody know of a way to check my cpu temp in linux?
[04:31] <rootyourself> acpi -V
[04:31] <Harris> burn is not in effect list in compiz
[04:31] <EliahKagan> manadys: yes, but (as you're saying) i'm not sure that's actually dangerus, provided that the partition was properly unmounted first (so the journal is written)
[04:31] <Guest32517> anyone know how to setup google payments with ubuntu store?
[04:31] <Daniel110> hi all so i finally decided after using ubuntu on a virtualbox for a while to make the move and switch from windows. However i want to still keep windows. I never partitioned my hard drive so i am a little confused. My hard drive already has 4 partitions. I did a google search i read that can i remove the recovery boot after making a backup cd. After that i am a little confused i found many different guides online that say different t
[04:31] <Daniel110> hings
[04:32] <Guest32517> Doesn't the ubuntu install cd have that option already? @Daniel110
[04:32] <rootyourself> Daniel110: before you do anything MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP
[04:32] <rootyourself> with that many partitions, you are sure to hose something
[04:32] <harushimo> very carefully
[04:32] <harushimo> I want to do this properly
[04:32] <EliahKagan> Daniel110: yes, backups are key when repartitioning especially if you are a novice or rusty or just anyway ;-)
[04:33] <EliahKagan> Daniel110: ideally, it might be best to remove a partition that is not bootable, as that is easier to restore properly -- if you have a recovery partition that has a Windows directory in it, that's probably bootable, whereas a "utility" partition is less likely to be bootable
[04:33] <rootyourself> Daniel110: in the past, if all 4 partitions were primary, you would not be able to add more partitions ... not sure if this is still a restriction
[04:33] <Guest32517> Only don't make backups if you don't want to keep Windows. :0
[04:33] <rootyourself> but as a consideration, if your system is old enough, you can end up hosing your windows partition scheme
[04:33] <rootyourself> may not be an issue any more perhaps
[04:34] <EliahKagan> well, you can reinstall windows (if you have installation media or can get it from your OEM) ...you can't reinstall documents that aren't backed up...
[04:34] <xisor_> rootyourself: he needs to create restore cds, because by default ubuntu installer will install grub to /dev/sda and he wont be able to boot into the recovery app anymore
[04:34] <harushimo> I want to automount the partitino
[04:34] <harushimo> I mean partition
[04:34] <harushimo> how do I do it through fstab
[04:34] <Guest32517> seriously, is there any way to use google payments?
[04:34] <xisor_> rootyourself: had that happen on this laptop earlier today as a matter of fact
[04:34] <rootyourself> what xisor_ said is correct.  please make sure to do that.
[04:35] <Daniel110> Yes i am making the recovery cd later and i read that the recovery parition on windows is just used to create the recovery cds so i guess that once i made them i can delete the partition
[04:35] <EliahKagan> Guest32517: the install CD will automatically repartition for you, but not if you already have 4 primary partitions with an MSDOS partition table, because one has to be removed to make an extended partition, to then create logical partitions in; you can't have more than 4 primary partitions with an "MSDOS" partition table
[04:35] <xisor_> rootyourself: not like i care personally, ive got windows cds if i ever need to, but for most, yea make those recovery discs
[04:35] <rootyourself> xisor_: i keep on forgetting that the big manufacturers have restore partitions.  i have not bought a windows machine in like 15 years.
[04:35] <Harris> how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:35] <wa5qjh>  Anybody ever see a problem  like this that prevents installng any new apts.  updating, dpkg retreivals or any else having to do with adding new apts or updating:
[04:35] <Daniel110> My problem is that i really don't know where to go from there. After deleting the recovery i will have 3 partitions left
[04:35] <wa5qjh> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ph.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[04:35] <dbummy> Can someone help me with fetchmail.... I had it working fine on my other server (12.04 server - 32bit) and I'm using the same configuration on 12.04 server 64-bit but it keeps giving me an error --- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:35] <Guest32517> EliahKagan: I dislike Windows, so sorry for the misinformation
[04:36] <Harris> how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:36] <xisor_> rootyourself: you can install grub to /dev/sda2 and keep your recovery, and windows install intact
[04:36] <xisor_> rootyourself: youll need to walk them through doing that in the advanced partition settings though
[04:36] <bazhang> !repeat | Harris
[04:36] <Harris> ActionParsnip, how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:36] <xisor_> rootyourself: i dont know how myself, im no expert
[04:36] <Harris> bazhang,  how to you type staight line down
[04:36] <bazhang> Harris, stop repeating every five seconds
[04:36] <Guest32517> harris: shift backslash
[04:37] <EliahKagan> Guest32517: i don't consider what you said misinformation, it just doesn't apply to Daniel110's present situation (but it's also not specific to Windows -- four primary partitions without any of them Windows produces the same situation with the Ubuntu installer)
[04:37] <Daniel110> What about wubi is that a good alternative?
[04:37] <reisio> Daniel110: to what?
[04:37] <Harris> Guest32517, that did not work see ?
[04:37] <rootyourself> your problem is not the installer Daniel110
[04:37] <xisor_> Daniel110: wubi is good to try things out with, better than virtualbox by a country mile
[04:37] <Guest32517> Daniel110: I've used Wubi. It works quite well.
[04:38] <xisor_> Daniel110: but for a permanent install you want dual boot
[04:38] <rootyourself> it is the fact that you have a windows install that you want to keep and you have never done this before
[04:38] <rootyourself> the problem is between the keyboard and chair
[04:38] <wa5qjh> wubi worked good for me for many months.  till I hosed it up.
[04:38] <Guest32517> Harris: You have a nonstandard keyboard
[04:38] <reisio> Daniel110: ah
[04:38] <rootyourself> create your backups then use wubi or any installer to give it a go
[04:38] <Harris> what is a nonstandered keyboard
[04:38] <reisio> Daniel110: four partitions already? Is one D:?
[04:38] <Guest32517> Harris: non qwerty.
[04:38] <Harris> how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:38] <rootyourself> the installers will run you through everything, you just have to make sure not to make a poor choice
[04:38] <reisio> Harris: dvoark? :)
[04:38] <xisor_> rootyourself:  honestly for a general home user who also wants to keep windows, wubi isnt a bad choice
[04:39] <reisio> Harris: does macs launcher have a name?
[04:39] <xisor_> rootyourself: you lose what? a little bit of disk performance, nothing major ona  modern machine
[04:39] <Harris> reisio, i dont know
[04:39] <reisio> xisor_: until its bugs make them stop using Linux altogether
[04:39] <Daniel110> 4 parittions: c:, Recovery(D:), HP_TOOLS, SYSTEM
[04:39] <rootyourself> xisor_: never said it was.  i'm trying to make sure Daniel110 doesn't loose what she needs the most.
[04:39] <rootyourself> Harris: what do you mean by the launcher?
[04:40] <reisio> Harris: how about 'slingshot'
[04:40] <xisor_> rootyourself: i agree, which is windows, and with the partition scheme used by default, he/she may just
[04:40] <rootyourself> you mean the applications menu?
[04:40] <Daniel110> he
[04:40] <Harris> rootyourself,  the mac dock
[04:40] <Lirth> cwilkins: I think your cord is tangled
[04:40] <reisio> Harris: with the icons?
[04:40] <xisor_> Daniel110: give it a try with wubi, its pretty much full speed, if you find it to your liking, get to know it a bit, then the process will be much easier to change over to a proper dual boot
[04:40] <rootyourself> ah.  two things you can try: 1) find a theme similar to the mac dock 2) find a dock that works like it
[04:40] <Harris> yes reisio
[04:40] <xisor_> Daniel110: if you DONT grow to like it, uninstall wubi as you would any windows app and your done
[04:41] <xisor_> Daniel110: no harm done
[04:41] <reisio> Harris: mmmm, Unity's side bar is basically like that, isn't it?
[04:41] <rootyourself> i have seen awesome used as the mac doc (the one on the bottom) for this
[04:41] <EliahKagan> Harris: Docky (http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Welcome_to_the_Docky_wiki) will run well on Ubuntu and is in many ways similar to the Mac OS X launcher (which is called "the Dock")
[04:41] <rootyourself> its basically an app you can install and manage
[04:41] <wa5qjh> I can no longer add apps via apt-get, dpkg, Softweare center or synaptic because all of those report this error:
[04:41] <EliahKagan> reisio: the Unity launcher doesn't really behave the same way as Docky and the Mac OS X "Dock"
[04:41] <wa5qjh> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ph.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[04:41] <wa5qjh> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:41] <dbummy> Can someone help me with fetchmail.... I had it working fine on my other server (12.04 server - 32bit) and I'm using the same configuration on 12.04 server 64-bit but it keeps giving me an error --- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:41] <rootyourself> there are probably a few applications that imitate the mac dock
[04:42] <Outlander> hi team, I have an issue where ubuntu 12.04 installer cannot see existing partitions on my drives during install, so I'm unable to dual boot windows
[04:42] <EliahKagan> wa5qjh: it's better to post multi-line error messages at http://paste.ubuntu.com and link to it here, as it's easier to see the whole error and it doesn't flood the channel
[04:42] <reisio> well there are a lot of more specific clones
[04:42] <rootyourself> just google it.  but you won't really be able to get the gnome panel to mimic the mac dock to any great success
[04:42] <Lirth> How are the ubuntu distros named (like the animals)?
[04:42] <Daniel110> xisor_: I already used ubuntu for the past 6 montsh maybe and i really like it. The problem is that i still need windows for some .NET development i do and gaming. The problem is not whether i am gonna like it or not.
[04:42] <Guest32517> Lirth: They are named in order of the alphabet
[04:42] <Daniel110> What can i do with a dual boot that i can't to with Wubi?
[04:43] <reisio> dated list: http://darrenyates.com.au/2008/09/10-free-mac-os-x-like-docks-for-linux/149
[04:43] <Harris> thank you EliahKagan
[04:43] <reisio> Daniel110: easily access your Ubuntu files from Windows
[04:43] <EliahKagan> Harris: no problem
[04:43] <EliahKagan> Outlander: do you get an error, or does it show you a blank disk, or what are you getting?
[04:43] <Guest32517> Daniel110: nothing, but ubuntus performance is downgraded a little bit
[04:43] <Outlander> the included Disk Utility on the live boot usb image can see all the partitions but the installer cannot, any workaround for this?
[04:43] <reisio> Daniel110: remove/modify Windows at a later date easily
[04:43] <Outlander> it sees 2 blank drives
[04:43] <xisor_> Daniel110: its not an issue of what you cant do, you can do pretty much everything, the problem is wubi relies on the health of your ntfs partitions, and viruses and problems in windows may nuke your wubi
[04:43] <reisio> Daniel110: dual boot should be more reliable, as well
[04:43] <harushimo> can someone guide me to automount my partition in fstab
[04:43] <xisor_> Daniel110: it runs a little slower as well, but far faster than virtualbox
[04:43] <rootyourself> anyone here run ubuntu on a tegra 3 chipset device?  i need to know how you find the performance and whetehr or not the beta/alpah drivers from nvidia are any good
[04:43] <Outlander> whereas the drives have a existing partitions. I've tried using both MBR and GUID partitions
[04:44] <Harris> EliahKagan,  in compiz burn is not listed under effects
[04:44] <Outlander> installng windows 7 first, then booting ubuntu off usb to attempt an install...
[04:44] <reisio> Daniel110: do you have an external/secondary drive where you can put the backups?
[04:44] <EliahKagan> Harris: i don't know a lot about CCSM (i probably wasn't the one who said to use it...it's a good utility, but i haven't actually used it)
[04:44] <Daniel110> reisio: No
[04:44] <reisio> rootyourself: glxgears ?
[04:44] <xisor_> reisio: another option for daniele may be usb stick install, a 16 gig usb stick is only a few bucks, and then no harm at all can come to his pc
[04:44] <Harris> ok
[04:44] <EliahKagan> Outlander: what type of partitions are they? is this a mac? are they HFS+?
[04:45] <rootyourself> reisio: if i had a tegra 3 machine here, would i be asking in the channel?
[04:45] <Daniel110> xisor_ : Wouldn't that really slow?
[04:45] <Harris> EliahKagan,  i have a hp
[04:45] <Harris>  ku-
[04:45] <xisor_> Daniel110: not neccesarily
[04:45] <Harris> 0316 keyboard how do i type a staght line
[04:45] <Daniel110> xisor_: Would it be faster than wubi?
[04:45] <wa5qjh> EliahKagan would probably be a good ideah If I had the bandwidth to do it. getting things in my browser these days can take forever if at all. 20KBps is tops and sometimes all I can get is about 600 baud!!
[04:45] <xisor_> Daniel110: my usb drive is an SSD put in a cheap usb enclosure, you can buy external usb hard drives as well
[04:45] <Outlander> this is a new dell inspiron 15R special edition
[04:46] <EliahKagan> Harris: is this (that you have a HP) in relation to the compiz thing?
[04:46] <xisor_> Daniel110: it would be from a hard drive, from a usb flash drive, depends on the drive, but probably no
[04:46] <Guest32517> rootyourself: what tegra 3 device are you looking at? 'cuz it might be better looking at the device vs the processor
[04:46] <reisio> Daniel110: it's actually not a problem that you have four partitions, you can still resize the largest to make space for Ubuntu
[04:46] <Outlander> which has 2 drives, a 1tb sata and a 32gig msata (SSD)
[04:46] <Harris> EliahKagan,  no
[04:46] <Outlander> the partition is basically an ntfs partition on the 1tb sata of 100gig in size
[04:46] <Daniel110> reisio: I thought you couldn't have more than 4 partitions
[04:46] <reisio> Daniel110: that's 'primary' partitions you're thinking of
[04:46] <Outlander> I've also tried all 3 disk modes in the bios, achi, ata and Intel speed mode
[04:46] <EliahKagan> Harris: i'm afraid you may have lost me then ...the mac question was to Outlander, if that was the mixup
[04:47] <xisor_> reisio: only problem daniel is going to face is needing help doing the partitioning and grub setup manually, default will nuke both her windows and her recovery partitions
[04:47] <xisor_> reisio: if someone can help him do that, its no problem at all to dualboot
[04:47] <Harris> EliahKagan,  i would like to be able to type a straight line down
[04:47] <rootyourself> Guest32517: asus transformer prime.  i've read tegra3 nvidia drivers sucked if they even existed.  i just noticed nvidia released some drivers for the tegra 3 but i'm not about to stuff money in asus pockes to find out i cannot run debian/ubuntu on it realistically.  i am hoping to run into some real world users here. :)
[04:47] <Outlander> the windows partitons are basic ones too
[04:47] <reisio> xisor_: I doubt it'll nuke the recovery partition
[04:47] <EliahKagan> reisio: right, but how are you going to create an extended partition to hold logical partitions when you already have 4 primary partitions, without removing a primary partition? the limitation is 4 primary or 3 primary + 1 extended
[04:47] <irong33k> how do you get sound preferences -> hardware to detect bluetooth so that i can sync my bluetooth headsets (bh-503)
[04:47] <reisio> xisor_: the MBR possibly, but that's of no concern
[04:47] <Outlander> it's just the ubuntu installer in 12.04 (and on the alternate boot cd) do not appear to see any partitions
[04:48] <rigved> Outlander: in the installer, on the partition menu, there is a drop down to select the hard disk. Have you tried that? It will allow you to choose between the SSD and the HDD.
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: it installs grub to the recovery partition by default, so ubuntu wont load, and the recovery wont either
[04:48] <Outlander> I've also tried the previous version of ubuntu but with the same result
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: so someone needs to help them put grub somewhere where it WILL load, such as the windows partition
[04:48] <reisio> EliahKagan: oh, got me there
[04:48] <Outlander> the installer has 2 options, one is wipe everything and the other is something else
[04:48] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: is the 4 primary partitions still an issue?
[04:48] <reisio> Daniel110: what's the smallest partition?
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: that is literally the only issue
[04:48] <Outlander> choosing something else, I get a view with 2 drives both showing no partitions and empty space
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: XD
[04:48] <rigved> Outlander: choose "Something else"
[04:49] <EliahKagan> rootyourself: are you asking if that is still a technical limitation for data storage, or if that is still something we're working on for Daniel110 in this channel?
[04:49] <reisio> xisor_: no it should install to the space at the beginning reserved for the MBR
[04:49] <xisor_> reisio: should be a ~100mb partition labeled windows 7 loader
[04:49] <Outlander> whereas the Disk Utility will show the disks with all the partitions present
[04:49] <rigved> Outlander: but you said that the Disk Utility of the Live CD is able to see them, right?
[04:49] <irong33k> help needed to synce my bluetooth headsets! bh-503
[04:49] <xisor_> reisio: well, the defualt left my windows working and my recovery nuked earlier
[04:49] <xisor_> reisio: so it cant go in its default
[04:49] <Outlander> correct, the disk utility can see everything
[04:49] <reisio> xisor_: nuked?
[04:49] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: datastorage.  for some reason i thought that went away as a technical limitation a  while back.
[04:49] <Daniel110> reisio: HP_TOOLS
[04:50] <reisio> Daniel110: how big?
[04:50] <EliahKagan> Outlander: if choosing something else doesn't show your partitions, then try selecting "Try Ubuntu without installing" instead of "Install Ubuntu", then when the desktop comes up run GParted and see what that shows you
[04:50] <rigved> Outlander: create the partitions using the Disk Utility and use them in the installer.
[04:50] <caffine> trying to use ffmpeg to convert an ogg to an mpeg, but i'm getting a blocky result. i've tried changing things like -b and found that 0.5 had a bug that was fixed in 0.6, but i have 0.7. any ideas? i've tried -v codec mpeg2video and mpeg4 as well as -b 5000k  the file size changes, but the quality does not.
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: sorry, inaccesible, unable to load recovery, and ubuntu not loading either
[04:50] <Daniel110> 103MB all 4 say primary parition
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: the default location for grub was somewhere where it doesnt attempt to boot from
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: which is the recovery partition
[04:50] <reisio> xisor_: probably just confused, not destroyed entirely, but who knows
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: it needs to be elsewhere, and that has to be done in the advanced options where you do partitioning
[04:50] <reisio> Daniel110: okay, I doubt very much you need hp_tools for anything
[04:50] <Outlander> I have created partitions using Disk Utility but the disks only show up as empty with the installer
[04:50] <reisio> Daniel110: dd it to a file backup and delete it
[04:50] <EliahKagan> rootyourself: it sort of did ;-) it is a limitation of an MS-DOS partition table (or MS-DOS disklabel as BSD folks call it) -- there are other types of partition tables (like GPT) that don't have this limitation, but you can't change your type of partition table without "erasing" the drive
[04:50] <K1rk> Who was chatting with me earlier regarding my VPN issue?
[04:51] <Outlander> this is a new model inspiron, so maybe it's out of the ordinary
[04:51] <xisor_> reisio: /dev/sda2 was where my windows bootloader was, and that is where grub should go
[04:51] <xisor_> reisio: devault is /dev/sda1, which is recovery
[04:51] <Daniel110> i did a google search and i read that people had some problems after deleting it
[04:51] <xisor_> reisio: in my case that is
[04:51] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: thought so. thx for confirmation.
[04:51] <reisio> Daniel110: link?
[04:52] <EliahKagan> rootyourself: since some OSes and utilities don't (or used to not) have good support for partition table types besides MS-DOS, MS-DOS continues to be used by default by most applications and OEM's, so the silly limitation stays with us even though technology has advanced far beyond needing it
[04:52] <reisio> Daniel110: how big are c & d?
[04:52] <rigved> Outlander: possible. create the partitions in Disk Utility. They should show up in the installer. Then, you can use the partitions as-is.
[04:52] <Outlander> I'll give that another try, rigved...
[04:52] <Daniel110> c - 581GB  d - 14.35GB
[04:52] <harushimo> I see the partition I created on my nautilus but how do I automount and access that partition?
[04:52] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: luckily cfdisk lets us choose :)
[04:52] <Daniel110> System 199MB
[04:52] <Cerrdor> Anyone have experience with bind9 zone configurations?
[04:52] <reisio> Daniel110: mmm
[04:53] <reisio> Daniel110: and you've got an Ubuntu liveCD/USB already?
[04:53] <Outlander> even deleting the partitions I had previously (not the win7 partition) causes an error
[04:53] <Outlander> Error erasing: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_del_partition: device_file=/dev/sdc, offset=105906176
[04:53] <Daniel110> reisio: I have the iso that i used for vbox
[04:53] <Outlander> so I'm guessing the disk utility and ubuntu in general has issues seeing these partition tables?
[04:53] <EliahKagan> Outlander: what happens if you create a blank, unformatted new partition in Disk Management in Windows?
[04:54] <Outlander> EliahKagan: have tried that also, creating raw blank partitions in windows
[04:54] <EliahKagan> i don't know why it isn't seeing them...you could search on Launchpad for bugs about it...
[04:54] <Outlander> but doesn't seem to be visible in ubuntu installer either
[04:54] <rigved> harushimo: you need to put an entry in /etc/fstab to auto-mount the partition. which type of partition is this? NTFS, EXT4?
[04:54] <EliahKagan> Outlander: what happened when you did that?
[04:54] <EliahKagan> huh
[04:54] <EliahKagan> darn
[04:54] <wa5qjh> From inside windoze you can try EasyBCD to manage your partitions. I have Win-7, Ubuntu-11.04 and PCBSD 9.0 running for me right now. not simultaneous of course ..
[04:54] <harushimo> ext4
[04:54] <Outlander> It's like whatever windows does to the partition table confuses linux
[04:54] <harushimo> I did a label to the partition called virtual
[04:55] <harushimo> how do I put the entry in
[04:55] <EliahKagan> Outlander: i think trying EasyBCD as wa5qjh suggests may help
[04:55] <EliahKagan> also are you making sure to shut down Windows cleanly?
[04:55] <rigved> harushimo: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:55] <Outlander> and I can't install linux then windows, as linux booter will be wiped...maybe I can do a ubuntu repair after that and get back to square with 2 OSes dual booting?
[04:55] <harushimo> I'm in the file
[04:55] <Outlander> easybcd
[04:55] <Outlander> ok cool, thanks heaps, I'll give that  go
[04:55] <EliahKagan> Outlander: yes, if you want you can do that, it's easy to reinstall the GRUB2 boot loader after the MBR gets overwritten by a new Windows installation
[04:55] <harushimo> I'm in the file
[04:56] <harushimo> I did that command
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: okay, well
[04:56] <Outlander> ok will install linux first, then windows, then easybcd from there to dual boot?
[04:56] <EliahKagan> Outlander: but if you try EasyBCD or viewing the partitions in GParted first, that can save time and effort, especially since you already have the Windows system installed
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: you can dd the partition to a file to make a backup
[04:56] <harushimo> rigved: what's the next step
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: and save a copy of the partition layout for good measure
[04:56] <wa5qjh> EasyBCD has also helped my recover a windows partition after hosing it up with other OS's.
[04:56] <harushimo> I mean putting in the entry?
[04:56] <rigved> harushimo: sudo blkid
[04:56] <Outlander> windows install is base install, havent installed anything after it was run up
[04:56] <Daniel110> reisio: I would i do that?
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: then you can either use http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00810279 or just reformat that partition after resizing during Ubuntu install
[04:56] <rigved> harushimo: type that in another terminal
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: just in case you want it later, it's small so it won't take long at all
[04:57] <harushimo> I did that
[04:57] <Outlander> ok so I have windows installed but not linux currenty. Advice is to run easybcd in windows now and carve up the partitions with it ready for linux install?
[04:57] <wa5qjh>  And , I might mention PCBSD folks are having some troubles with nvidia drivers as well.
[04:57] <harushimo> whats blkid?
[04:57] <Daniel110> reiso: After i remove the recovery what should i do?
[04:57] <rigved> harushimo: do you see the partition that you want to auto-mount?
[04:57] <Outlander> can it "sanitise" the partition table to be viewable by linux while preserving windows?
[04:57] <harushimo> it hasn't showed up at all
[04:57] <rigved> harushimo: in the output of blkid?
[04:58] <harushimo> no I don't see it
[04:58] <harushimo> I did sudo blkid
[04:58] <harushimo> is that right?
[04:58] <rigved> harushimo: can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[04:58] <reisio> Daniel110: delete the hp_tools partition and resize C: to make room to install Ubuntu, then install normally _to that empty space_
[04:58] <reisio> Daniel110: it'll ask you whether you want to keep windows or not, etc.
[04:58] <harushimo> I don't have anything to paste
[04:58] <harushimo> let me try one thing
[04:59] <harushimo> sudo blkid >> output.txt file, could this work?
[04:59] <rigved> harushimo: yes.
[04:59] <reisio> Daniel110: defrag the filesystems from Windows before resizing and it'll be more likely to go off without a hitch
[04:59] <reisio> Daniel110: if it's a new box it should be virtually entirely defragged already
[04:59] <harushimo> its working
[04:59] <Daniel110> reisio: defrag?
[04:59] <harushimo> this is taking a while
[05:00] <rigved> harushimo: it will take a few seconds
[05:00] <harushimo> so far nothing
[05:00] <reisio> Daniel110: yeah :)
[05:01] <reisio> Daniel110: is it a new computer?
[05:01] <Daniel110> reisio: ah sorry what does it mean?
[05:01] <Daniel110> reisio: 1 year old
[05:01] <reisio> ah, then you definitely want to make sure it's defragged
[05:01] <reisio> Daniel110: what version of Windows/
[05:01] <the_hulk> hi thr, i am planning to switch to 12.4
[05:01] <Daniel110> 7
[05:01] <reisio> okay that'll save you some time
[05:01] <rigved> harushimo: odd. so, there are no partitions on this disk?
[05:02] <harushimo> rigved: its only one partition
[05:02] <harushimo> it has no mount point
[05:02] <harushimo> I have 4 partitions on my 160 but not the 1 tb
[05:02] <reisio> Daniel110: from Computer, right click on C:, Properties, Tools > Defragment now
[05:02] <rigved> harushimo: can you see the partition in "disk utility"?
[05:02] <the_hulk> i want to format and then install new one, i want to make sure my sw configuration remains the same after install
[05:02] <Daniel110> what does that do?
[05:02] <the_hulk> any suggestions?
[05:02] <reisio> Daniel110: do this immediately before you resize, when you're done using Windows for the time being
[05:02] <harushimo> I do see the partition in nautilus under Devices
[05:03] <reisio> Daniel110: over time (especially with file systems like NTFS [Windows' file system]), files get cluttered around on the disk, leaving unusable gaps
[05:03] <reisio> Daniel110: taking up more space than they need to
[05:03] <rigved> harushimo: ok. can you access it when you click on it in nautilus?
[05:03] <harushimo> no I can't
[05:04] <reisio> Daniel110: defragmenting reorganizes them so they're all side by side, so all the empty space is at the end
[05:04] <harushimo> I can't access the lost+found directory at all
[05:04] <reisio> Daniel110: which in turn makes resizing simpler/safer
[05:04] <harushimo> it says I don't have permissions
[05:04] <reisio> Daniel110: although the only way to be 100% safe is to have a complete backup
[05:04] <harushimo> when I'm the admin of my own computer
[05:04] <rigved> harushimo: that is normal. lost+found is only accessible by root.
[05:04] <harushimo> there is nothing on hard drive
[05:04] <Daniel110> k
[05:04] <rigved> harushimo: it is reserved for the filesystem. you should not try to access it.
[05:05] <harushimo> ok
[05:05] <harushimo> what if I try to create a folder
[05:05] <harushimo> let me see what happens
[05:05] <EliahKagan> harushimo: indeed, lost+found is where recovered files (from fsck) go on ext* partitions, only root can access it because any files, or even a recovered /etc/shadow (with password hashes), could end up there
[05:05] <rigved> harushimo: you can outside of lost+found
[05:05] <EliahKagan> harushimo: i mean, you can access it with sudo, but you shouldn't unless you know you need to
[05:06] <harushimo> ok
[05:06] <harushimo> i'm getting a little tired. I'll try this in the morning
[05:06] <Daniel110> what if i want to use wubi, how easy would it be to transfer files/data/applications/settings?
[05:07] <harushimo> I want to get this working
[05:07] <Daniel110> when i make a real install
[05:07] <harushimo> thanks everyone
[05:07] <rootyourself> harushimo: it sounds like the system is mounting the partition for you as root because you were mucking about with it in gparted
[05:08] <reisio> Daniel110: it'd be easy to transfer from Ubuntu to Windows, IIRC
[05:08] <reisio> Daniel110: I'm not sure how you'd do the reverse, but it's certainly possible
[05:08] <rootyourself> there is a fix for that, i forget what it is.  but one thing you might be able to do is unmount it via nautilus, create a folder for it and do mount /dev/partitionnumber /foldername and it should mount as your user
[05:08] <reisio> I mean you can transfer files from Windows onto Ubuntu's file systems _from_ Ubuntu of course
[05:10] <amicrawler> i got a problem with ubuntu 11.04
[05:10] <amicrawler> will not play games
[05:11] <amicrawler> the drivers are installed
[05:11] <amicrawler> gears work
[05:11] <amicrawler> but when i try to play a game will not load
[05:12] <amicrawler> Couldn't initialize SDL: No available video device
[05:12] <amicrawler> thats what i get
[05:14] <wa5qjh>  ********
[05:14] <wa5qjh>  I get the following error in trying to add anapp by apt-get in U-11.04 by any means:
[05:14] <wa5qjh>  E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ph.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[05:14] <wa5qjh> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[05:14] <wa5qjh> Is there somebody can help me with this, please?
[05:14] <wa5qjh> ****
[05:14] <FloodBot1> wa5qjh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <rootyourself> wa5qjh: change to a different repo and reinstall.  that package looks borked.
[05:15] <wa5qjh> I guess the answer is no.
[05:16] <wa5qjh> what is repo ?
[05:16] <wa5qjh> you mean reinstall 11.04 ?
[05:16] <rootyourself> !repository
[05:17] <rootyourself> no, just change the source from where ubuntu is downloading the software
[05:17] <as2000_> I am trying to use my microphone with Paltalk and they are not hearing anything. Ideas?
[05:19] <wa5qjh> none of the package installers are able to install anything from any source. I've even tried to get it to install from a package already downloaded and sitting on my disk.
[05:19] <amicrawler> does any body know whats going on here
[05:19] <amicrawler> Couldn't initialize SDL: No available video device
[05:19] <rootyourself> wa5qjh: uh ... nice.  haven't seenthat before.
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> rootyourself: does it work in sound recorder
[05:20] <rootyourself> wa5qjh: won't be able to help, outside of guessing that apt or dpkg are borked
[05:20] <Bsims> wa5qjh: tried dpkg?
[05:20] <wa5qjh> At this point it looks like I will have to reinstall.
[05:22] <wa5qjh> dpkg, apt-get,  synaptic package manager, all report that error. Software center just hangs with out any response.
[05:22] <rootyourself> wa5qjh: you can do a few things to help your reinstall go smoothly
[05:22] <rootyourself> backup /home of course and /etc
[05:23] <rootyourself> the other thing you can do is google how to export your installed packages as a list.  then you can use tha tlist to tell aptitude or whatnot what to install back in one go
[05:23] <Bsims> wa5qjh: what is the exact error
[05:24] <wa5qjh> hmmm havent backed up /etc yet.
[05:24] <wa5qjh> yep
[05:24] <Bsims> wa5qjh: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-get-list-installed-software-reinstallation-restore.html
[05:24] <wa5qjh> copiede and pasted.
[05:27] <wa5qjh> THanks, I'll look that one up soon as it loads.
[05:28] <olskolirc> how can I see how many people are on the whole server please?
[05:28] <reisio> olskolirc: #freenode
[05:29] <Bsims> wa5qjh: worst case "sudo dpkg --get-selections > ~/installed-software.log; sudo dpkg --get-selections > ~/installed-software.log; sudo deselect" and hit I for install
[05:30] <olskolirc> where do I learn thise cool commands please?  I don't have these
[05:31] <olskolirc> dang wrong window
[05:35] <wa5qjh> ok, ThankS.  now for the problem that probably got me here. Are .deb packages ALL good fro  Ubuntu?
[05:35] <wa5qjh> for instance the MySQL 5.5.x or the newest VirtualBox
[05:36] <rootyourself> definately not
[05:36] <rootyourself> lots of different distributions use .deb, each .deb is specifically targeted to that distros default config
[05:36] <rootyourself> infact
[05:36] <rootyourself> you cannot install debs between different versions of the same distro
[05:36] <rootyourself> while you can get lucky on certain apps, the above is something to keep in mind
[05:37] <wa5qjh> The version of VirtualBox is ose and I saw that it is preferable to install the latest.
[05:37] <Cerrdor> any networking gawds in here tonight?
[05:37] <wa5qjh> and that worked fine on my old Wubi install  but not in my normal partition U11.04
[05:38] <rootyourself> quit sucking up and just ask Cerrdor
[05:39] <Cerrdor> I can ping my host OS from my guest but not my guest from the host, what gives here? No firewall, LAMP / DNS both running fine
[05:39] <rootyourself> Cerrdor: let me quess, qemu?
[05:39] <Cerrdor> but if I ping my guest OS or go to geust.OS.IP.addy:80 I get a time out
[05:40] <Cerrdor> no firewall anywhere on either system completely disabled for troubleshooting
[05:40] <Cerrdor> nupe
[05:40] <rootyourself> qemu guests have that default behaviour
[05:40] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, how can I install Ubuntu on a USB?
[05:41] <Cerrdor> OccupyDemonoid, by running the USB installer
[05:41] <rootyourself> Cerrdor: sorry dude, won't be able to help on that issue.  kinda weird
[05:41] <OccupyDemonoid> Cerrdor, may I have a link please?
[05:42] <wa5qjh> OccupyDemonoid. assuming you're already in Windows,  use the universalinstaller on the cd .iso works great fro that.
[05:43] <olskolirc> hey who started this channel?
[05:43] <MidComArgh> hi guys. i'm having considerable trouble attempting to install ubuntu on a hp mini 110 - prepared a 2GB USB using unetbootin-545, and invariably syslinux freezes
[05:43] <OccupyDemonoid> wa5qjh, alright thank you. Would it pick up that I already have Windows PE on the drive?
[05:43] <Cerrdor> OccupyDemonoid, http://bit.ly/Juh4rG
[05:43] <rootyourself> olskolirc: mark shuttleworth him self of course
[05:43] <wa5qjh> or download the universal installer from the same site you got the .iso image from.
[05:43] <MidComArgh> has anyone run across this? google doesn't indicate so but i'm hoping i might get some assistance from you guys
[05:44] <olskolirc> who appointed admins?
[05:44] <rigved> OccupyDemonoid: from windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows and from ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[05:44] <wa5qjh> on  the usb drive ?
[05:44] <wa5qjh> it will replace just about anything that may be on the usb drive.
[05:45] <OccupyDemonoid> rigved, that only creates a boot disk. I want to actually install it on the usb.
[05:45] <OccupyDemonoid> wa5qjh, Yes, I want to have ubuntu installed while still having Windows PE on it.
[05:46] <wa5qjh> It worked for me for several different sticks. I put U11.04 on one, Turnkey on another.
[05:47] <OccupyDemonoid> How did you get Windows PE to work with it?
[05:47] <wa5qjh> you want ubuntu And Windows installed on the same usb stick ?
[05:47] <OccupyDemonoid> wa5qjh, yes I do, I have a 32gb drive and just want to have one drive for everything.
[05:47] <hk19> It can b dome in an external hard disk
[05:47] <MidComArgh> ...
[05:47] <rootyourself> strangely, this can be done, but its a good chunk of work
[05:48] <MidComArgh> why, god, why
[05:48] <rigved> OccupyDemonoid: put in a Ubuntu CD and also the USB. then, during the installation procedure, tell the partition manager to install to the USB. install GRUB also to the USB. that will work.
[05:48] <wa5qjh> Ah, so des.  well somebody else is gonna have to help you with that then. Sorry.
[05:48] <rootyourself> there is someone online that installed 32 os's on a single hd
[05:48] <rootyourself> i've seen live cds with multiple windows versions
[05:48] <rootyourself> no clue how to create them tho
[05:48] <OccupyDemonoid> rigved, alright. I will try that right now. Thank you.
[05:49] <rootyourself> however, it will be similar to creating a dual boot setup, you will need to make the usb drive bootable and have something like grub pointing to all the different os's
[05:49] <rigved> OccupyDemonoid: make sure you select "Something else" in the partition manager during the install. then create the partitions on the USB (one for / and one for swap at aleast). also, select to install the bootloader (GRUB) on the USB.
[05:50] <rootyourself> there you go, that looks right
[05:50] <OccupyDemonoid> rigved, would that format the drive?
[05:50] <wjcw> can somebody run "gconftool-2 -g /apps/metacity/general/titlebar_font" -- unity 2d seems to mess with this and I'm curoius as to what the default is on 12.04 LTS
[05:51] <rigved> OccupyDemonoid: you can control that from the partition manager. but yes, you will have to format some of the drive at least for the / and swap partitions.
[05:51] <OccupyDemonoid> rigved, alright. Sweet, thank you. :)
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> wjcw: Ubuntu Bold 11     is output
[05:55] <wjcw> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> wjcw: np :)
[06:14] <Guest81694> hello
[06:15] <Guest81694> how can i change my nickname
[06:16] <Guest81694> clear
[06:17] <hk19> Sup
[06:17] <archer__> ls
[06:17] <archer__> hello
[06:17] <archer__> guest
[06:18] <Guest81694> ls
[06:18] <Guest81694> clear
[06:18] <Guest81694> ls
[06:18] <Guest81694> hi, how to change your nickname in irc
[06:18] <genii-around> Guest81694:  /nick newname-here
[06:19] <chroot> yes, worked.
[06:19] <chroot> thank you man
[06:19] <chroot> oh, and will it remember my nickname next time i login
[06:19] <chroot> ?
[06:20] <genii-around> chroot: Not unless you register it
[06:20] <genii-around> !register
[06:23] <namoamitabuddha> /sbin/iptables -t filter -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 50000 -j ACCEPT
[06:23] <Zanzacar> I have a hardware question, Anyways have an idea where I should go for some help?
[06:23] <namoamitabuddha> Is there any equivalent command to this in ufw?
[06:23] <reisio> Zanzacar: #hardware ?
[06:23] <Zanzacar> reisio: good call. I guess its late and brain = fail
[06:24] <reisio> :p
[06:26] <chroot_> ls
[06:26] <chroot_> screen
[06:26] <reisio> chroot_: /bin/bash
[06:28] <Frank-N-Steen> test
[06:30] <chroot_> waht
[06:30] <Guest63902> ls
[06:31] <Frank-N-Steen> network manager restart just seeing if I am on. :)
[06:31] <funber> подскажите как прикрутит dlink dcs930l к skype
[06:32] <Frank-N-Steen> !ru
[06:32]  * Frank-N-Steen igor hand me those electrodes
[06:33] <funber> join #ubuntu-ru
[06:33] <axz> Good day ppl... i'm having issue with Xubuntu.. it takes very long to lead after login 12.04
[06:33] <Frank-N-Steen> axz, how long is it. :)
[06:33] <Frank-N-Steen> in time
[06:33] <namoamitabuddha> !cn
[06:34] <axz> Frank-N-Steen, tbh dunno about 3+ min
[06:35] <csrg> ls
[06:35] <Frank-N-Steen> axz, whoa that is strange not sure really, you have any extras installed like compiz.
[06:35] <chroota_> ls
[06:36] <chroota_> ls
[06:36] <bazhang> chroota_, stop that
[06:36] <csrg> ls
[06:37] <axz> Frank-N-Steen, no its clean install
[06:37] <Frank-N-Steen> axz, not sure myself.
[06:38] <gio3505> Hey guys, do any of you know why Kubuntu doesn't show up in the desktop environments drop box in wubi? It only lists Ubuntu.
[06:38] <chroota_> oh, sorry.
[06:38] <axz> Frank-N-Steen, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+question/190991
[06:38] <chroota_> i am using irssi, and a little confused about it.
[06:38] <axz> same issue but nobody really got int it
[06:39] <gio3505> same as mine axz?
[06:41] <axz> gio3505, sorry?!
[06:41] <axz> i installed xubuntu but it takes freaky long to show up the desktop after login
[06:42] <gio3505> ah, thought you were replying to my problem lol
[06:42] <skydrome> hi, is the ouput of gcc -dumpversion controlled by how ubuntu builds gcc?
[06:44] <gio3505> Hey guys, do any of you know why Kubuntu doesn't show up in the desktop environments drop box in wubi? It only lists Ubuntu.
[06:45] <iceroot_> gio3505: what is the output of "dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop"
[06:45] <iceroot_> skydrome: yes
[06:46] <gio3505> what now? i just dont have the option to select kubuntu in the drop down box for desktop environments in wubi. only gives me ubuntu as an option.
[06:46] <skydrome> iceroot_, would the bug report site be a good place to discuss if ubuntu could make it report 4.6.0 instead of 4.6 or another channel maybe?
[06:47] <iceroot_> skydrome: if you have a good reason why it should act like that, a bugreport is a good idea
[06:48] <skydrome> ok ty
[06:48] <gio3505> any idea iceroot?
[06:49] <iceroot_> gio3505: is told you what info is needed
[06:49] <iceroot_> gio3505: please run that command
[06:49] <iceroot_> !paste | gio3505
[06:49] <gio3505> how? im in windows7 btw, not ubuntu
[06:50] <iceroot_> gio3505: in ubuntu you have to run that command
[06:50] <gio3505> i have not installed ubuntu. im looking to install Kubuntu with Wubi.exe
[06:51] <iceroot_> gio3505: ah ok, you want to install kde directly, i never used wubi so i dont know of there is an option to install kde directly, you can install ubuntu without a desktop and after the installation is done you will run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:52] <ace7> hi
[06:53] <gio3505> hmm, will that fresh - install a dual boot kubuntu or overite windows?
[06:54] <ace7> want to ask why when I try to boot from my pendrive(have win7) I get to GDU that give me option to boot from ubuntu?
[06:55] <Epznsfw> hi everyone I'm having some issues updating some packages on ubuntu, it's actually stuck with libssl1.0.0, whenever i try to run apt-get install --reinstall libssl1.0.0 i get a permission denied error on /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssl1.0.0:i386.postrm   and /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm  with dpkg error status 2
[06:56] <Epznsfw>  +  is there any way to fix it ? (sorry I hit enter lol)
[06:56] <Frank-N-Steen> ace7, grub was probablt put in the usb instead of the HD, you run the  bootscript yet?
[06:56] <Frank-N-Steen> *probably
[06:56] <flowerpot> Epznsfw, permission denied makes me think you should try again with sudo.
[06:56] <killer> hi ...i recently ran vmware.bundle and when i try to run vmware player ...it says kernel modules not compiled
[06:58] <Epznsfw> flowerpot, at apt-get install? I did
[06:58] <Epznsfw> I actually never ran it without sudo
[06:58] <flowerpot> Epznsfw, then I'm afraid I don't know :(
[06:58] <ace7> what is bootscript? I'm new to linux, right now my os is ubuntu and I want to install win7 and then I want to install ubuntu as duall boot
[06:58] <Epznsfw> flowerpot, thanks for trying
[06:59] <Frank-N-Steen> ace7, does the ubuntu on the computer boot without the usb?
[07:00] <Frank-N-Steen> ace7, the bootscript is a script for debugging boot problems
[07:00] <ace7> yup, ubuntu is on hd
[07:00] <ace7> how to do bootscript?
[07:00] <Frank-N-Steen> !bootinfo
[07:02] <Frank-N-Steen> ace7, there is also a boot-repair tool that will run it for you a modified version. Boot info summary with this app, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:07] <mike9863> I'm unable to login past lightdm. When I submit my password it appears to login but then it brings back lightdm. I am using 12.04.
[07:11] <ibm> #ubuntu-se
[07:13] <ibm> #ubuntu-se
[07:17] <nmvictor> Haa, did I read somewhere that Linux Mint is, and hass been for that last 6 months, the most widely used Linux distro. What a news, and a great one but expected anyway. What was canonical expecting with that Unity shit! Next news, ubuntu will be dropped from the top 10 list then Canonical will open their eyes to the reality. In Opensource-spere, you must give back to the community. Its the only way to survive.Fuck you Unity developers
[07:19] <nmvictor> and Fuck you Unity users!!!!!
[07:19] <unimatrixdoc_ove> I've been impressed with Unity. Simple, but only on the surface. A lot of stuff just *works* out of the box.
[07:19] <unimatrixdoc_ove> prefer KDE, xfce, fluxbox.
[07:19] <unimatrixdoc_ove> fluxbox my fav
[07:19] <unimatrixdoc_ove> but, Unity has potential
[07:20] <james> Is there a way to retrieve my forgotten keyring password?
[07:20] <Guest44590> Is there a way to retrieve my forgotten keyring password?
[07:20] <Tm_T> nmvictor: please, this is wrong channel for this so kindly try stay in the channel topic
[07:21] <nmvictor> unimatrixdoc_ove: liar, Unity in 12.04 freezes up computer system and is very slow. try googling Unity very slow and you will see how many million more results Google has for you
[07:21] <Tm_T> !guidelines | nmvictor also read these
[07:21] <nmvictor> Tm_T: Ok
[07:21] <Guest44590> Is there a way to retrieve my forgotten keyring password?
[07:23] <unimatrixdoc_ove> Guest44590 <-- I'm trying to find where it's location in the home dir. give me a sec
[07:23] <rraj> What ever im trying to install, im getting the follwing error.
[07:23] <rraj> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[07:23] <rraj> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:23] <rraj>  fglrx-updates : Depends: linux-headers-generic but it is not going to be installed or
[07:23] <Tm_T> Guest44590: does this help? recall I followed the instructions here when I did http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[07:23] <FloodBot1> rraj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:23] <rraj>                           linux-headers
[07:23] <rraj>  linux-headers-generic-pae : Depends: linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic-pae but it is not going to be installed
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > rraj
[07:26] <rraj> Hi, Here is my erros
[07:26] <rraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009247/
[07:26] <rraj> Any idea to resolve this issue, Im not able to update or install anything now
[07:26] <rraj> :(
[07:27] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- yes, it was slow until i installed catalyst drivers from AMD
[07:27] <unimatrixdoc_ove> "myunity" allowed for some custom options that I was impressed with
[07:28] <nmvictor> unimatrixdoc_ove: I'm in Intel and it was slow.
[07:29] <ibm> please can someone help me i am trying to dist upgrade my version of ubuntu but it does not work i tried with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo apt-get update but it says that i have some program package that can not be removed i tried even with sudo apt-get autoremove and sudo apt-get install -f i do not now what to do now
[07:29] <unimatrixdoc_ove> hmm... The was an install that I did a while back. Unity totally sucked. It was a P4 2GHz with a modest video card.
[07:29] <unimatrixdoc_ove> for some reason this time around things are totally different. Extremely *snappy* and quick response
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> ibm, what is the release you have now?
[07:30] <unimatrixdoc_ove> though diff arch. Now on a Core 2 Quad 8GB RAM.
[07:30] <Tm_T> ibm: apt-get dist-upgrade does upgrade within the release, is that what you are looking for? if yes, the specific error message would help to help you
[07:30] <nmvictor> unimatrixdoc_ove: Thats a nice opinion you have, Distrowatch will tell the opinion of the masses.
[07:30] <nmvictor> unimatrixdoc_ove: sometime to come
[07:31] <Tm_T> nmvictor: ...are you looking for help or just rant?
[07:31] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- true.
[07:31] <rraj> How can i remove this error
[07:31] <rraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009247/
[07:31] <rraj>  linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic-pae : Depends: linux-headers-3.2.0-23 but it is not going to be installed
[07:31] <ibm> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[07:31] <Tm_T> rraj: what happens if you try install linux-headers-3.2.0-23 ?
[07:31] <unimatrixdoc_ove> I would try different video drivers or even different card all together
[07:31] <unimatrixdoc_ove> ^^ nmvictor
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> ibm, Are you trying to upgrade within 10.04 or to 12.04?
[07:32] <rraj> @Tm_T: Video drivers? For any package installation im getting the same..
[07:32] <unimatrixdoc_ove> on the system in question, what card where u using?
[07:32] <rraj> is this not a issue with wrong linux image?
[07:32] <nmvictor> Tm_T: Help, Unity was slow in my machine. Making my machine run like a pentium 2 pc loaded with win95, any suggestions or catalyst drivers I need to install in my previously-workable-with-11.10 machine?
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> rraj, Do you have synaptic installed?
[07:33] <rraj> nope
[07:33] <rraj> synaptic is not installed i think @wilee-nilee
[07:33] <Tm_T> nmvictor: in that case, stop bringing mint, distrowatch or other irrelevancies into discussion, and stick strictly in the issue you're having, please
[07:33] <ibm> it wants to upgrade to 10.10
[07:33] <rraj> i was using apt-get command
[07:34] <imagine6> testing
[07:34] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- just a hunch: have a look at your last /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:34] <Tm_T> rraj: apt-get dist-upgrade does not upgrade your system to newer release
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> rraj, going there if you had it and could get in to look for broken packages would be about all I know.
[07:34] <diverdude> Hello, when i plug in my android (4.0) to my ubuntu computer it is not being detected as a mass storage device. How can i then transfer files to and from my android phone?
[07:34] <nmvictor> Tm_T: what suggestions, I asked, do you have for my problem?
[07:34] <rraj> raj@raj-VPCEB46FG:~$ uname -a
[07:34] <rraj> Linux raj-VPCEB46FG 3.2.0-24-generic-pae #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 18:54:21 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:34] <Tm_T> nmvictor: none currently
[07:34] <nmvictor> unimatrixdoc_ove: ok, am onto that.
[07:34] <rraj> This is my linux info
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> ibm, 10.10 is end of life you can't upgrade to it.
[07:34] <nmvictor> Tm_T: Good!
[07:35] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- could you throw it up on paste.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <rraj> @TM_T, im not trying to upgrade, Im already using 12.04
[07:35] <ibm> but i want to upgrade to the last one if is possible
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> ibm, wait for the july 12.04.1 relaese and you will get the upgrade in the update manager
[07:36] <rraj> @wilee-nilee, the below is the broken i think
[07:36] <rraj> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:36] <rraj> linux-image: Depends: linux-image-generic (= 3.0.0.19.23) but it is not installed
[07:36] <rraj> am i right or anything else to be checked?
[07:36] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- am thinking that you might not be loading some options
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> rraj, I would not know, you might make a thread at the ubuntu forums, more help there at times.
[07:36] <ibm> there are already an 12.04 upgrade
[07:36] <nmvictor> unimatrixdoc_ove: never mind, I'm gonna try Kubuntu 12.04 first! I'll surely get back to you if am as disatisfied over their.
[07:37] <Tm_T> rraj: ok, what happens if you try install linux-headers-3.2.0-23?
[07:37] <rraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009261/
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> ibm, in the update manager?
[07:37] <rraj> this is the broken repair error
[07:38] <dixoncx> Need help, Problem with Bluetooth. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11695875
[07:38] <ibm> but it does not upgrade to it or to one earlier version
[07:39] <rigved> diverdude: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access/
[07:39] <dan_> Is the upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 safe?
[07:39] <rraj> @TM_T: Same error is being repeated when im trying to install linux-headers for 3.2.0-23
[07:39] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- yeah, I would be curious if you get better results with compiz-fusion stuff. I had a good experience with KDE in general too.
[07:39] <Tm_T> rraj: it cannot be exactly the same error
[07:39] <rraj> @wilee-nilee, Doing that also now
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> cool
[07:40] <unimatrixdoc_ove> nmvictor <-- I was going to look for (EE) here is what my Xorg.0.log looks like paste.ubuntu.com/1009262
[07:40] <ibm> wilee-nilee, where can i put the information to you to see it
[07:40] <rraj> @TM_T: This is the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009265/
[07:41] <ibm> i do not now how to use the paste thing
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> ibm, in a imagebin, or pastebin
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> ibm, are you backed up?
[07:42] <ibm> what do you mean
[07:42] <rigved> !pastebin | ibm
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> ibm, if the upgrade failed are you covered, can you afford to loses the whole OS?
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> lose*
[07:42] <Tm_T> rraj: and then you try installing linux-image-generic and follow the chain until you come to an end (:
[07:43] <Tm_T> rraj: but sounds like the package lists needs updating (or repositories were in the middle of update)
[07:43] <dixoncx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11695875
[07:43] <rraj> @TM_T : Do youmean this ? sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[07:44] <Tm_T> yes
[07:45] <rraj> @Tm_T : I had tried that. that too ends at same dependency error. Did apt-get update also
[07:45] <dixoncx> Need help, Problem with Bluetooth. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11695875
[07:50] <Mirans> hey all
[07:50] <Mirans> help pls M
[07:51] <ibm> wilee-nilee, here you have it is half in swedish and the other in english but i think you while now anyway the problem go to this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009280/
[07:53] <dixoncx> Anybody...  Problem with Bluetooth. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11695875
[07:53] <Fudge> barcode  isnt that grub legacy?
[07:54] <unimatrixdoc_ove> @mirans: what is it you need help with?
[07:54] <Fudge> whoops discard, wasnt scrolled down
[07:56] <fyodorovna> ibm, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is a in the release upgrade not to another release.
[07:56] <fyodorovna> like a update && upgrade
[07:57] <gabriele93> hi to everione
[07:57] <gabriele93> everyone
[07:57] <themaster> ehlo
[07:58] <gabriele93> someone can tell me how i can replace XFCE of ubuntustudio?
[07:58] <fyodorovna> ibm, personally I would say don't upgrade to another release without having your stuff backup but here is the info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts
[07:58] <Guest91471> Is it easy to run Ubuntu 12.04 server from RAM without a hard disk??
[08:00] <fyodorovna> ibm, have you seen 12.04 it has a completely different desktop.
[08:00] <Guest91471> Sorry if I'm intruding, but is there a way to run Ubuntu 12.04 server from RAM ?
[08:02] <mbalmer> g'day!
[08:02] <Guest91471> hi balmer
[08:02] <matthewL> Guest91471: if you run from live cd, that's ram, right?
[08:02] <Eagleman> Why would you run ubuntu from ram, since every settings you make will be gone after a restart or power loss
[08:03] <Guest91471> That's exactly why I want to eagle
[08:03] <mbalmer> with 12.04 I can do a user autologin.  But can I also set a delay, during which it would be possible to interrupt the autologin and login as a different user?  In gdm3, that is possible, fwiw.
[08:03] <Guest91471> matt: i hope so
[08:03] <Guest91471> but I can't figure out how with the server
[08:03] <Eagleman> why not run it in virtual box to test things out
[08:05] <Guest91471> Since Ubuntu 12.04 Server only provides the option of installation, how to live CD ?
[08:08] <Guest91471> is there a boot option to make it run like a live CD ?
[08:08] <ge0rJey> in my vimrc found this mapping ,nmap <leader>f0  .which key is f0 referring to
[08:09] <rraj> @Tm_t and @wilee-nilee, Added a query on UF. : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972605#post11972605
[08:09] <rraj> I dono how to resolve this dependency
[08:10] <rraj> im ready to remove the old kernel even
[08:11] <Nebularit> I have a large music library. I want to generate a text file that lists every album and the tracks in those albums. How could I do this?
[08:15] <ibm> now i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009307/ does somebody now how to fix it please
[08:17] <Nebularit> I have a large music library. I want to generate a text file that lists every album and the tracks in those albums. How could I do this?
[08:18] <Nebularit> I have a large music library. I want to generate a text file that lists every album and the tracks in those albums. How could I do this?
[08:19] <Guest91471> so.. does anyone know if booting Ubuntu 12.04 Server from CD is possible (like a liveCD) ?  I would simply like to know if the option is there or not.
[08:19] <mbalmer> ok, lightdm is broken, ignores the autologin-user-timeout setting.
[08:24] <mi3> pungi-man, welcome back
[08:24] <pungi-man> hey mi3!
[08:25] <mi3> YO pungi-man !!!
[08:25] <pungi-man> how are u mi3??
[08:25] <mi3> pungi-man, how do I look ??
[08:25] <mi3> HAHAHAHA
[08:25] <Nebularit> Is there a way to list ONLY files in a directory AND ALL aubdirectories?
[08:26] <pungi-man> as usual!!
[08:26] <mi3> Nebularit, ls -ln
[08:26] <pungi-man> may be we should not flood here lets go to another channel
[08:26] <Guest91471> I'm sure there is, if the tools won't help you Nebu, a simple script or program certainly can.
[08:26] <mi3> pungi-man, ok, I'll pvt you :D
[08:27] <Guest91471> But I have another question..  How do I know if Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit will run on my machine??
[08:28] <fyodorovna> Guest91471, Try a live cd/usb
[08:29] <Eagleman> hahaha
[08:29] <huttan> Guest91471: 64bit supports bigger memory, thats all. If you got over 4gb, use 64bit
[08:29] <Eagleman> thats what he wants but there isnt a live cd for 12.04 server
[08:30] <fyodorovna> Eagleman, was not following the posts.
[08:30] <huttan> Nebularit: How is it compiled? files and folders?
[08:31] <mbalmer> wow, that lightdm bug is known (and unfixed) since at least 2006...
[08:32] <mbalmer> oh, crap no...
[08:32] <mbalmer> only since 2011 ;)
[08:33] <Eagleman> How do i get this command executed on every reboot mount --bind website  /var/www/folder
[08:33] <Eagleman> is it possible to put it in fstab?
[08:34] <Eagleman> and how
[08:36] <xisor> hi im having a problem with samba shares
[08:36] <xisor> i cant seem to mount them via fstab
[08:37] <ibm> please someone help me with the upgrading error i do not now how to fix it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009307/
[08:40] <fyodorovna> ibm, it is trying to upgrade to maverick, make a thread at the ubuntu forums it will probably be helpfel, this channel is much busier daytime US
[08:40] <xisor> guess everybody is asleep
[08:42] <xisor> can someone help me with setting up mounting for smb shares in my /etc/fstab?
[08:46] <huttan> xisor: paste what u have now
[08:46]  * Abhijit back to Ubuuuuntu!
[08:46] <huttan> just the line that is trying to mount ths smbshare
[08:48] <Eagleman> Is clonezilla any good for making a 1:1 copy of my disks?
[08:49] <juniour> hey my unity is gone plz help me
[08:49] <Eagleman> since i;ve got an ext4 partition and partimage doesnt support ext4
[08:50] <Abhijit> juniour, 'gone'? was it there before? working well? what you done that after it unity gone?
[08:50] <juniour> upper pannel and left dock ig gone plz help me
[08:50] <juniour> ya
[08:50] <juniour> abhijit it was there
[08:50] <huttan> juniour: did you reboot and it was gone, or did it just disappear?
[08:50] <juniour> huttan ya
[08:51] <huttan> that didnt answer much hehe
[08:51] <juniour> ir reboot and it was gone
[08:52] <juniour> huttan i got thanks for cooperation
[08:52] <huttan> if u try to run unity from terminal
[08:53] <juniour> i got unity
[08:53] <huttan> u get massive error output?
[08:53] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[08:54] <huttan> Darael: whats ur keyboard layout?
[08:55] <Darael> huttan: Well, my system default is set to Programmer Dvorak, so that's what it's stuck in now - which means I can't access the QWERTY layout I have as secondary, and makes letting people use my computer... difficult.
[08:57] <huttan> what if u export LANG to en_US.UTF-8 ??
[09:00] <Darael> huttan: Shouldn't make any difference.  The problem is in X, not the terminal, for a start.
[09:01] <huttan> Darael: then u gotta look at xorg.conf in /etc/X11 if i remember right
[09:01] <huttan> then sudo gdm restart when ur done editing the font
[09:01] <huttan> sudo service gdm restart for ubuntu maybe
[09:02] <Darael> huttan: I do not have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf - this was one of the first places I looked.  And anyway, Ubuntu uses lightdm these days, and Upstart too, so it'd be sudo restart lightdm.
[09:02] <huttan> u getting the point...there has to be a conf file
[09:04] <Darael> huttan: No, there doesn't.  More modern versions of X autoconfigure, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is only for overrides if they prove necessary.  And none of this explains why the GNOME keyboard-layout configuration tool has absolutely no effect.
[09:05] <huttan> you check the logs ?
[09:05] <Darael> Yup.
[09:06] <mi3> pungi-man, welcome back
[09:06] <pungi-man> hey!
[09:06] <harshad> problem in installing ubuntu on system with nvidia graphics card...what to do..???
[09:06] <Darael> !elaborate | harshad
[09:07] <xisor> huttan: sorry i was afk since repsonse was slow, still there?
[09:07] <rraj> howto mkdir and chmod in a ssingle command?
[09:07] <Abhijit> rraj, mkdir && chmod
[09:07] <huttan> xisor: yeah
[09:07] <rraj> Nope @Abhijit.. i want something like sudo mkdir 777 /projects/
[09:08] <Abhijit> its obvious isnt it
[09:08] <Abhijit> rraj, on short you write whatever command you want there and just put && in between two commands.
[09:08] <Abhijit> thats how you run two commands in single line
[09:08] <Abhijit> in*
[09:09] <Darael> rraj: sudo mkdir -m a=rwx /projects
[09:09] <xisor> huttan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009372/
[09:09] <xisor> replaced username and password obviously:P cant be too careful
[09:09] <rraj> Thanks Abhijit and Dareal.
[09:10] <rraj> :)
[09:10] <harshad> i want to install ubuntu 12.04 on my desktp but installion won't proceed,,,,i have nvidia graphics card 2gb...is it creating problem for my installation...????
[09:10] <Darael> rraj: "man mkdir" isn't much help, but it does point to "info coreutils 'mkdir invocation'", which is where I got that, for future reference.
[09:10] <huttan> rraj: remember && has a check that commands are successful
[09:10] <IronSight> I went to install the upgrade and it's giving me some heat over gnome-session... http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05272012-040701am.php
[09:10] <IronSight> trying to get on the new LTS
[09:10] <Abhijit> harshad, at which point it is stuck? do you meet the hardware requirement?
[09:10] <sary> harshad: try a kernel boot option from the live-cd to pass to the desktop and install.
[09:10] <xisor> huttan: is my syntax wrong or somethin?
[09:11] <xisor> huttan: does it wait to connect to my wireless network before attempting to mount those?
[09:11] <Darael> harshad: "installation won't proceed".  At what point, is there an error message, and do you have any particular reason to suspect the graphics card?
[09:11] <Abhijit> help. getting error (gnome-tweak-tool:7472): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed while trynig to run gnome tweak tool!
[09:11] <sary> Abhijit: install the extension then ..
[09:12] <IronSight> since I am running xubuntu, if I rip out all the gnome-shell stuff, will that fix that error?
[09:12] <Abhijit> sary, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/19/user-themes/ says i already had it installed.
[09:12] <harshad> at very start installion won't proceed..don't give any error message but screenn remains as it is....???
[09:13] <Darael> xisor: As I recall, there's a mount option which notes that something's a network filesystem and makes it wait until there's a network available before it tries to mount it.  Hang on while I look it up.
[09:13] <xisor> Darael: ok, can you give me a paste with edited syntax after you do?
[09:13] <xisor> Darael: so i can edit the 14 entries i have in my fstab?
[09:13] <Abhijit> harshad, press any key?
[09:14] <Darael> xisor: add _netdev to the mount options (the same field as you have username=username,password=password in)
[09:14] <harshad> Abhijit :won't work...
[09:14] <xisor> Darael: where do i add it exactly?
[09:14] <xisor> Darael: before or after username and password?
[09:15] <sary> Abhijit: Alrigh , on the same page look in the comment by peacewithall .. execute those commands logout/back in and then restart the tool .
[09:15] <xisor> Darael: do i just add ,_netdev after the password?
[09:15] <Darael> xisor: Shouldn't matter, but I'd put it first.  _netdev,username=username,password=password
[09:15] <IronSight> no one had this issue spring up on the upgrade? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05272012-040701am.php
[09:15] <harshad> sary:how to enter kernal boot option..>!!!
[09:15] <xisor> Darael: ok, and is it case sensitive when connecting to windows shares?
[09:15] <xisor> Darael: if so how do i figure out the correct capitalisation/
[09:16] <sary> harshad: you're booting to the live-cd , right ..
[09:16] <Abhijit> sary, that gives me No such file or directory error cause as suggested on one ubuntu forum post i delted local/share/gnome-shell/extnesions
[09:16] <Darael> xisor: I don't know off the top of my head, sorry.  As I recall, the machine name should be all lowercase... but I'd have to look up the exact syntax and where it's case-sensitive if at all.
[09:16] <xisor> Darael: oh ok
[09:17] <sary> Abhijit: do you happen to have installed the extension from a ppa !
[09:17] <xisor> is the rest of my syntax correct?
[09:17] <Abhijit> sary, nope
[09:18] <Darael> xisor: Seems to be, yes.
[09:18] <xisor> Darael: this is my first day using linux XD
[09:18] <xisor> Darael: sorry if i asked a dumb question
[09:18] <sary> Abhijit: ok , so now after you removed the extension dir .. what happen when you install and trun the user-etension ON .
[09:19] <IronSight> Is the ubuntu upgrader broken?
[09:19] <sary> harshad: Are you able to reach the installer menu from the live-cd ..
[09:19] <morsnowski> IronSight, why?
[09:19] <IronSight> morsnowski, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05272012-040701am.php
[09:19] <Abhijit> sary, to turn the user extensin on i need to go insdie the tweak tool but tweak tool wont launch at all
[09:20] <sary> IronSight: it could be in your system .
[09:20] <IronSight> I just tried to do a dist upgrade, and it throws me that
[09:20] <harshad> sary:hm
[09:20] <mcloy> how to restart samba, my windows machine shares are not showing up
[09:21] <Abhijit> sary, i will solve this later. thank you for your time. i need to go for lunch. bye
[09:21] <Darael> xisor: Nono, not at all.  Good on you for trying - this is rather more ambitious than most people try on their first day, and it seems very close to working.  I am impressed.  Although I note that having your Windows box's root filesystem exposed on the network, with the username and password in a world-readable plain-text file on another machine, is probably not the best idea security-wise.
[09:21] <morsnowski> from what version are you trying to upgrade?
[09:21] <sary> Abhijit: well , tuern the extension to ON from the extension.org , then run those commands posted by the user i mentioned , logout/back in then run the tweak-tool again .
[09:21] <IronSight> umm... I think the last LTS, but lemme check
[09:21] <xisor> Darael: anyone can access my fstab?
[09:21] <IronSight> 11.10
[09:22] <sary> harshad: at what point are you stack in the live-cd .. what screen do you see .
[09:22] <IronSight> morsnowski, 11.10
[09:22] <Darael> xisor: Anyone with access to that machine, yes.  Try using a credentials file instead.
[09:22] <xisor> Darael: its read only access btw, so they can only view my files nothing more, even if they got in
[09:22] <mcloy> how to restart samba, my windows machine shares are not showing up
[09:22] <xisor> Darael: im the only one with access to either machine, this is a local network in my house :P
[09:23] <morsnowski> that's no lts, did you check the thngs that your error message showed?
[09:23] <sary> harshad: i must aske if you did md5 test the iso before burnning to media .
[09:23] <Darael> xisor: I work too much with larger networks.  Of course it is.  Well, I can try to prod people into forming good habits early, or something... :P
[09:23] <xisor> Darael: figured it was easier to network access my files on this new linux install than migrate all of my hard drives and files to do it the other way around?
[09:23] <morsnowski> IronSight, that's no lts, did you check the thngs that your error message showed?
[09:24] <harshad> sary:after welcome screen of ubuntu black screen comes and remains as it is even cursor doesn't works..
[09:24] <IronSight> morsnowski, you think if I remove all gnome 3 components then it might work?
[09:24] <Eagleman> how to remove every single package of bacula?
[09:24] <morsnowski> well at leats take it off the blacklist
[09:24] <IronSight> it was complaining about gnome-session being marked for removal
[09:24] <xisor> Darael: not like my file server has any stability issues or anything, it doesnt even have internet access its local network only XD
[09:24] <amagee> hey does anyone have any hints for getting dual displays working on ubuntu 12.04 with an amd/ati graphics card?
[09:24] <mcloy>  is there a way not to install kde (remove it) but run dolphin or xchat or a video (just these applications) and do all work at command line?
[09:24] <xisor> Darael: but changing it over to linux seems complicated for a noob:P
[09:24] <Darael> xisor: If you need to have two machines, one on each OS, yes, it is.  Almost certainly.  Configuring SAMBA the /other/ way around is not hard, but is definitely hard/er/.
[09:25] <IronSight> morsnowski, can you remind me where the blacklist is located, it's been a while since I played with that
[09:25] <amagee> if i try to do it with the gnome "displays" control panel app I get "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[09:25] <mbalmer> is robert_ancell online here often?
[09:25] <morsnowski> :) same here i have to look that up
[09:25] <xisor> Darael: im trying to learn linux so i can do a buncha cool stuff id have to pay tons of money to do in windows XD
[09:25] <sary> harshad: this is in the live-cd , right !
[09:25] <amagee> if i try to do it with amdcccle it just crashes as soon as tell the monitors not to be mirrored
[09:26] <Darael> xisor: Good motivation.  I approve.  Do /eventually/ think about migrating that server, since the server is where *nix (including Linux) really shines.  It's good on the desktop, but it's great on the server.
[09:26] <harshad> sary:live usb
[09:26] <xisor> Darael: correct me if im wrong but i need to go sudo mkdir all my mount points too right?
[09:26] <mcloy> is my text visible to anyone?
[09:26] <IronSight> morsnowski, I just checked like /etc/apt... don't see one there
[09:27] <xisor> sudo mkdir /mnt/windows/C is correct syntax yes? Darael ?
[09:27] <Darael> xisor: Correct.  You can do that all in one if they're under /mnt with "sudo mkdir /mnt/{mountpoint1,mountpoint2,mountpoint3}" syntax, by the way.
[09:27] <xisor> Darael: neat, thanks thats helpful info
[09:27] <Darael> xisor: And there's the ever-useful -p flag to mkdir, which makes it create any necessary parent directories in a single command.
[09:27] <xisor> Darael: im trying to learn, hope im doing ok so far
[09:27] <morsnowski> IronSight, you could always just remove it manually and then run the upgrade
[09:27] <Darael> xisor: Seems so to me.
[09:28] <IronSight> sounds like a plan morsnowski
[09:28]  * IronSight pulls up synaptic
[09:28] <xisor> Darael: i  need to paste my new things in and mkdir my mnt points, will you be here after i reboot?
[09:28] <sary> harshad: Alright , when you see the BIOS screen , which is the firt black screen you'll see when booting , after that screen keep pressing SHIFT till you see the GURB bootloader screen .
[09:28] <Darael> xisor: I should be.  Just mention my name when you get back, I'll get a popup.  See you on the other side.
[09:29] <Chell> lol
[09:29] <harshad> sary:then...???
[09:30] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[09:30] <xisor> Darael: ok rebooting
[09:30] <morsnowski> IronSight, what desktop are you on, Gnome or Unity?
[09:30] <IronSight> neither
[09:30] <morsnowski> lol
[09:30] <Eagleman> unmount /dev/sdb
[09:30] <Eagleman> No command 'unmount' found, did you mean:
[09:30] <Eagleman> why isnt it working?
[09:30] <Darael> Eagleman: It's umount - only one n.
[09:31] <IronSight> xfce
[09:31] <morsnowski> IronSight, so you wouldn't mind if gnome went away for a while ?
[09:31] <javier__> Hi
[09:31] <Eagleman> aw thanks
[09:31] <IronSight> morsnowski, exactly
[09:31] <morsnowski> ok then kick it :)
[09:31] <Darael> Eagleman: Additionally, unpartitioned media is rare - you probably want "umount /dev/sdbn", where n is some number or other.  But maybe not.
[09:31] <javier__> good morning
[09:32] <syphilitic> White with a streak of yellow reek
[09:32] <syphilitic> A shitty pink
[09:32] <syphilitic> A most unladylike stink
[09:32] <xisor_> Darael: im back
[09:32] <syphilitic> From a fragrant, lubricated leak.
[09:32] <xisor_> Darael: and those mountpoints are empty....
[09:32] <harshad> sary:what i do next...???
[09:32] <syphilitic> THE STINK
[09:32] <sary> harshad: while you at the GRUB Menu press ' e ' then anoher menu will open .. look for the ,line tht starts with  ' linux /boot .. at that line add nomodeset after quiet splash , when that is done press CTRL+X .
[09:32] <syphilitic> THE STINK
[09:32] <FloodBot1> syphilitic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <IronSight> morsnowski, yay, now it wants to start the upgrade, thanks man!
[09:33] <morsnowski> :)
[09:33] <Darael> xisor_: Hm.  Run "mount" with no options, and pastebin the result for me?  Also try "sudo mount -a" and try again.
[09:33] <xisor_> Darael: ok
[09:33] <xisor_> Darael: is there a command i can use to auto generate a pastebin for me?
[09:33] <xisor_> Darael: i heard some distros have that
[09:33] <javier__> i have upgrade from lucid to precise, with gnome-classic, and some shortcuts are different, someone can tell me what is the shortcut to show the desktop without using the mouse
[09:34] <IronSight> getting the packages at 3,122 kB/s ^_^
[09:34] <sary> harshad: please conform if you see queit splash in hat line .
[09:34] <sary> That*
[09:34] <fiazy> Finished a new painting today
[09:34] <fiazy> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/148754_2128853878446_1758957810_960505_634890466_n.jpg
[09:34] <morsnowski> javier__,  ctrl-alt-left(right)
[09:34] <fiazy> its 305 cm x 215 cm, oil over linen
[09:34] <Myrtti> syphilitic: did you have a Ubuntu related question?
[09:34] <xisor_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009400/ Darael
[09:35] <IronSight> !offtopic|fiazy
[09:35] <xisor_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009401/ Darael
[09:35] <xisor_> smbfs appears to be incorrect type syntax
[09:35] <Darael> xisor_: The command is pastebinit, but IIRC you have to install the pastebinit package first.  Then the syntax is "command | pastebinit".  Just a sec, I'll have a look.
[09:35] <javier__> thanks morsonwski but ctrl-alt-left and right change to other virtual desktop but i want to minimize all the windows
[09:35] <xisor_> Darael: that would be my problem, now just need the correct syntax for an smb share and it should work.... i think
[09:35] <syphilitic> THE STINK
[09:35] <xisor_> Darael: unless i am stupid
[09:36] <syphilitic> THE STINK
[09:36] <FloodBot1> syphilitic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <Darael> xisor_: So it does.  Hang on, I'll go and look it up.
[09:36] <morsnowski> javier__, oh got you
[09:36] <sary> syphilitic: ARE you okay !
[09:36] <syphilitic> sary I'VE NEVER BEEN BETTER
[09:36] <syphilitic> Panties stink!
[09:36] <syphilitic> They really really stink!
[09:37] <sary> syphilitic: glad to know so , do you have support question ?
[09:37] <xisor_> he got kicked lol
[09:37] <Darael> xisor_: Have you got the smbfs package installed?
[09:37] <xisor_> Darael:  i do not know, the samba shares work when i browse them in the file manager though
[09:38] <morsnowski> javier__, how about ctrl-alt d
[09:38] <harshad> sary:on pressing e another menu won't come....
[09:38] <Darael> xisor_: Run "sudo apt-get install smbfs" for me and try again?  The file manager uses gvfs to access samba shares, and that's not easily available to the system at FS mount time.
[09:38] <xisor_> smbfs is installed
[09:38] <xisor_> should i reboot?
[09:38] <Darael> xisor_: Should be no need.
[09:39] <xisor_> Darael: if i want the shares to mount a reboot is needed? or will it mount them on its own now?
[09:39] <javier__> msnowski, nothing happens with ctrl + alt + d
[09:39] <Darael> xisor_: Did you just install it?  If so, try a "mount -a" again.
[09:39] <javier__> morsnowski, nothing happens with ctrl + alt + d
[09:39] <xisor_> device or resource busy
[09:39] <Darael> xisor_: "mount -a" will mount everything that should mount at boot time, there's no need to reboot.
[09:39] <xisor_> error 16
[09:39] <Darael> xisor_: Well, we're making progress.
[09:39] <javier__> i don't know how can i add this shortcut in precise gnome-classic
[09:40] <sary> harshad: hmm , i think i've gave you the wrong instructions  . you will only see the menu if you have ubuntu already installed . MY bad .
[09:40] <planetic> Hi! I trying to install the ATI proprietary driver to ubuntu 12.10 32bit and people on the web said that it is impossible to do with 3.2.x linux kernel. How to downgrade to 3.0.0 kernel without downgrading whole system&
[09:41] <morsnowski> javier__, you can always look it up in ccsm :)
[09:41] <javier__> ok
[09:41] <sary> harshad: which tool did you used to make a bootable usb , and have you md5 test the iso before making the bootable stick !
[09:41] <morsnowski> it is under general options and you can set it any which way you like
[09:41] <javier__> in what submenu of ccsm?
[09:41] <Darael> xisor_: Looks like it's trying to use the mountpoints for something else.  A reboot may work, therefore, although it's highly unusual to need a reboot for things other than kernel upgrades to take in the linux world, so there's probably another way.
[09:42] <javier__> because i feel i bit idiot with this simple think, easy to do y previews versions of ubuntu
[09:42] <xisor_> Darael: i will reboot and see if they mount
[09:42] <sary> !md5sum > harshad
[09:42] <xisor_> Darael: be right back
[09:42] <IronSight> planetic, I would say... install an older version of ubuntu....
[09:42] <IronSight> if that was the only way to make that driver work
[09:43] <planetic> IronSight: and there is no way to do downgrade only the kernel?
[09:43] <sary> planetic: dont you have an older kernel version entry showing in GRUB bootloader menu .
[09:44] <IronSight> well, I guess you could download the sources to an old kernel and compile them yourself from kernel.org, but that's a HUGE PAIN
[09:44] <Darael> planetic: Short of compiling your own, no, there isn't.  And compiling your own may cause a problem.  Hang on, 12.10?  You're running the development version, Quantal?  That's going to cause trouble.
[09:44] <xisor> Darael: and we have mounted drives
[09:44] <xisor> Darael: why would it have been busy before?
[09:44] <xisor> Darael: looks like i was just missing smbfs!
[09:44] <morsnowski> planetic, you could try something like "sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic_2.6.38-10.46_i386.deb" not 100% it works on 12.04 though
[09:45] <planetic> Darael: Ok, thank you.
[09:45] <Darael> xisor: Glad to hear it's working.  The old mount thread was probably trying to access the mountpoint, rendering them busy.  We could have found out, but a reboot seemed faster than diagnosing and sorting it while live.
[09:45] <xisor> im on 12.04 and i have AMD drivers on 3.2.0-24
[09:45] <xisor> so whoever told you that was apparently wrong
[09:46] <xisor> 60fps in tuxracer and 1900fps in glxgears confirms it
[09:46] <morsnowski> planetic, that worked on 11.10 but i never tried it on anything newer than that
[09:46] <xisor> no way this cpu can manage that without acceleration
[09:46] <Darael> planetic: Are the proprietary drivers available in the "additional drivers" tool?  If so, use those rather than the ones from the website.  Guaranteed to work.
[09:46] <xisor> so my ati driver is working fine on 3.2 kernel
[09:46] <IronSight> xisor, you have a sandybridge?
[09:47] <amagee> does anyone know how to uninstall the proprietary ati drivers from an ubuntu 12.04 system?
[09:47] <xisor> IronSight: i do but linux isnt on it, its on an amd athlon II dual core 2ghz
[09:47] <xisor> laptop
[09:47] <IronSight> oh
[09:47] <IronSight> yeah ^_^
[09:47] <xisor> IronSight: no way it has that kind of power ;)
[09:48] <planetic> mornowski: I will let you know if it worked
[09:48]  * IronSight runs a sandybridge i7 on his laptop
[09:48] <xisor> planetic:  you dont need a kernel downgrade to use ati video drivers
[09:48] <xisor> planetic: im doing it right now on 12.04 with the 3.2 kernel
[09:48] <Darael> amagee: "sudo apt-get purge fglrx*", perhaps?
[09:49] <xisor> IronSight: sandy bridge 6 core on my gaming pc, not going to bother installing linux on it, i dont do anything in linux that requires that kind of power
[09:49] <Darael> amagee: That's if installed from the "additional drivers" tool, no idea if they're from the website.
[09:49] <amagee> Darael: yeah that seems pretty close.. just found this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[09:49] <IronSight> xisor, compiling?
[09:49] <hk19> Pls help me
[09:50] <xisor> Darael: do the adittional driver tool drivers come with the catalyst control center?
[09:50] <xisor> IronSight: this is my first day using linux IronSight  so nope :P
[09:50] <hk19> Yea
[09:50] <alFReD-NSH> I wanna build vim from source
[09:50] <hk19> Toshiba lap not showing boot screen
[09:50] <alFReD-NSH> it says it needs ncurses
[09:50] <pie_> How can I remove Zeitgeist? I'm using the classic GUI, no need for Unity.
[09:50] <planetic> xisor: i can't install them. I get the "DKMS part of installation failed".
[09:50] <Darael> xisor: I don't know, but I know the catalyst control center is in the repos, so I assume so.  I've always had nvidia cards and/or intel chipsets, not much experience with ati on Linux.
[09:50] <alFReD-NSH> which package is for ncurses?
[09:51] <IronSight> xisor, oh, well, if you ever get into compiling apps, that 6 core would be very useful ^_^ use make -j13
[09:51] <xisor> planetic: are you installing the plain ones or the extra support ones? the plain ones just worked for me
[09:51] <hk19> Hello
[09:51] <DarkSim> Hello!
[09:51] <Darael> !patience | hk19
[09:51] <hk19> Pls help me
[09:51] <xisor> IronSight: what does that flag do? specify number of threads?
[09:51] <Darael> !elaborate | hk19
[09:52] <IronSight> xisor, indeed
[09:52] <xisor> IronSight: why 13 threads on a 12 thread cpu?
[09:52] <xisor> IronSight: typo? :P
[09:52] <hk19> Toshiba laptop not showing the boot screen
[09:52] <IronSight> xisor, no, that's the formula for that flag, threads + 1
[09:52] <planetic> xisor: I tried to install both from the jocker, but my attepts failed. Then I downloaded drivers from ATI website. The effect is just the same.
[09:53] <JennyBlueBird> Hi, I got some issues with applications that need to use ptrace, google suggests changing a kernel parameter to allow it to be used on non-child processes. I just wanted to know if this is ok to do or if it will break other things.
[09:53] <DarkSim> Is it possible to ask why I Ubuntu doesn't find my wacom tablet in here?
[09:53] <xisor> IronSight: bigger question is, what the heck could i compile that wouldnt be don nearly instantly on that cpu? :P
[09:53] <hk19> Directly goes to the os
[09:53] <IronSight> xisor, many game engines, and the kernel of course :)
[09:53] <planetic> xisor: jockey I meant
[09:54] <Darael> hk19: Request elaboration: "not showing the boot screen".  Which boot screen?  BIOS splash?  The Ubuntu logo with the four (five?) dots?  The GRUB menu?  Which?
[09:54] <hk19> Grub menu
[09:54] <xisor> hk19:  is it booting windows without showing grub?
[09:54] <xisor> hk19: or booting ubuntu?
[09:54] <hk19> Yep
[09:54] <Darael> DarkSim: It's possible.  Why not do it and see what answer you get?  (I'm sorry, I don't know why, but I couldn't resist)
[09:54] <hk19> To windows
[09:55] <Darael> hk19: Try holding shift immediately after POST.
[09:55] <xisor> Darael: his recovery partition messed with the bootloader, he needs help switching grub over to /dev/sda2 most likely
[09:55] <xisor> default location grub installs to is the recovery partition
[09:55] <xisor> Darael: which isnt loaded by the laptop, the windows partition is
[09:55] <DarkSim> Since I thought latest Ubuntu would just find my Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch, since it has its own settings in the system settings, but to no avail, it does not detect my Tablet
[09:55] <xisor> Darael:  i dont know enough to help him fix it though
[09:56] <amagee> ok still stuck re. multiple monitors: i tried uninstalling the proprietary ati driver so i'm back to the open source one.  i can't unmirror the displays using the gnome control panel's "displays" app (required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920))
[09:56] <hk19> Let me try
[09:56] <Darael> xisor: Ah.  Hmm, don't think he wants to move grub to /dev/sda2; chainloading it from NTLDR is much nastier than the other way around.  But I can't get involved, I have to go.
[09:56] <hk19> Thanks
[09:56] <amagee> and trying to actuall install the proprietary driver doesn't even work either
[09:57] <xisor> Darael: well, i cant really help, someone will be able to help him though
[09:57] <xisor> Darael: thanks for helping me with my smb shares
[09:57] <dz0ny> amagee: use the amd/nvidia control panel to switch off mirroring
[09:58] <amagee> dz0ny: i can't use the amd control panel since i can't install the amd proprietary driver
[09:58] <DarkSim> So I guess it's rather doomed, eh?
[09:59] <dz0ny> amagee: ok, are you trying to install via jockey manager or via command line?
[09:59] <dz0ny> amagee: try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[09:59] <amagee> i'm not sure what "jockey manager" is.. is that the app that's called "additional drivers"?
[09:59] <ikonia> amagee: that's it
[09:59] <Milos_SD> hello...
[09:59] <amagee> yeah i used that
[09:59] <dz0ny> and then sudo apt-get install fglrx
[09:59] <amagee> ok
[09:59] <amagee> purging first
[10:00] <amagee> i just dream of a day when upgrading ubuntu won't break my display :P
[10:00] <dz0ny> yeah  it doesn’t work properly via additional drivers
[10:01] <dz0ny> amagee: me too :)
[10:02] <morsnowski> guys stop complaining, what else would you do on sunny sunday afternoon
[10:02] <amagee> do i need to reboot between installing fglrx and running amdcccle?
[10:02] <amagee> i'm guessing yes
[10:02] <dz0ny> amagee: yes
[10:02] <amagee> ok
[10:02] <Milos_SD> i have some pc here with intel i945 chipset and 2160 cpu... ubuntu 8.10 starts fine, but anything newer gets kernel panic with some mce error (processor context corruption).... what can that be?
[10:02] <amagee> brb :)
[10:03] <DarkSim> I installed tons of things for the Wacom Tablet
[10:03] <DarkSim> but it still isn't working
[10:03] <gabriele93> hi
[10:03] <gabriele93> can i replace xfce with gnome?
[10:04] <dz0ny> Milos_SD: which cpu ?
[10:04] <dz0ny> Milos_SD: have you tried 32bit version
[10:04] <Milos_SD> intel pentium dc e2160
[10:04] <Milos_SD> yes 32 bit
[10:05] <Milos_SD> i didn't try 64bit (1gb of ram)
[10:05] <morsnowski> gabriele93, yes
[10:06] <amagee> dz0ny: ok, i rebooted but now amdcccle crashes whenever i try to unmirror the monitors and hit apply
[10:06] <gabriele93> morsnowski, how?
[10:06] <morsnowski> sudo apt-get install gnome
[10:06] <morsnowski> Milos_SD, that chip can do 64 bit
[10:06] <Milos_SD> i have tried with "nomce" kernel optio, but it just restarts then, without kernel panic
[10:07] <amagee> going to try this: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/hardware/472570-dual-head-amd-ati-monitor-setup-old-home-directory.html
[10:07] <dz0ny> amagee: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <dz0ny> amagee: dont wory it will be reinitialized on reboot
[10:07] <morsnowski> Milos_SD, have you tried any other os (egg windows)
[10:07] <amagee> oh ok, i'll try that instead of that link?
[10:07] <dz0ny> amagee: also can you run amdccle from terminal an post crash log
[10:08] <gabriele93> morsnowski, 540mb :( i try
[10:08] <amagee> dz0ny: where should i post it? (and where do i get it from?)
[10:08] <Milos_SD> morsnowski, no, i'm doing it right now... but i guss xp installation is not going to start
[10:08] <morsnowski> gabriele93, works for me every time
[10:08] <Milos_SD> because of linux partitions
[10:09] <morsnowski> Milos_SD, is it possible that there is a hw fault?
[10:09] <gabriele93> morsnowski, ok :) you too use xubuntu?
[10:09] <Revvv> hi guys
[10:09] <morsnowski> no ubuntu
[10:09] <Milos_SD> maybe, but how ubuntu 8.10 is working...
[10:09] <dz0ny> amagee: run via terminal as sudo then post to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <Revvv> any clue how to disable compositing on ubntun 12.04?
[10:09] <morsnowski> Milos_SD, god question ...
[10:09] <amagee> just the output fgrom the terminal?
[10:09] <amagee> from
[10:10] <amagee> dz0ny: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009446/
[10:10] <Milos_SD> installed and working, just without any support... there are no repoitoris for it anymore
[10:10] <javier__> morsnowski ctrl - meta - d are the key :)
[10:11] <morsnowski> whats meta
[10:11] <amagee> (rebooting now after removing xorg.conf)
[10:11] <javier__> windows key
[10:11] <Revvv> regarding my quesiton: im running 12.04 with gnome fallback btw
[10:11] <morsnowski> :)
[10:11] <dz0ny> amagee: that's at start up or at point when you click apply
[10:12] <javier__> mornowski thanks for your support :()
[10:12] <morsnowski> welcome
[10:13] <Aspire> hello
[10:14] <sary> Hey
[10:15] <pbx2> !search
[10:15] <amagee> dz0ny: deleted xorg.conf, but amdcccle still crashes
[10:15] <pbx2> how to search by file size, like above 500 MB etc?
[10:15] <pbx2> in Ubuntu 12.04 unity
[10:15] <adonis> Hello all
[10:16] <sary> Hey
[10:16] <pbx2> how to search by file size, like above 500 MB etc?
[10:16] <sary> pbx2: search what , the bot factoids !
[10:16] <pbx2> files
[10:17] <pbx2> files above 500 mb?
[10:17] <pbx2> in a particular folder
[10:17] <pbx2> !search files
[10:17] <morsnowski> pbx2, find . -type f -size +500000
[10:18] <dz0ny> amagee: can you confirm that amd module is loaded via glxinfo
[10:18] <pbx2> morsnowski, any GUI interface?
[10:18] <morsnowski> pbx2, no idea
[10:18] <pbx2> where do I put location of specific folder in the arguments?
[10:19] <morsnowski> instead of the dot
[10:19] <pbx2> is it the . ?
[10:19] <pbx2> thanks
[10:19] <Eagleman> how di i see wich file system my harddrive uses? ( dev/sdb
[10:19] <morsnowski> pbx2, find /home/pbx2/Desktop -type f -size +500000
[10:19] <amagee> dz0ny: how do i do that?
[10:19] <pbx2> thnx morsnowski
[10:20] <morsnowski> welcome
[10:20] <dz0ny> amagee: run glx info and look for server glx vendor string: ATI
[10:20] <amagee> dz0ny: "server glx vendor string: ATI" is thre
[10:20] <amagee> *there
[10:21] <morsnowski> Eagleman, try sudo fdisk -l
[10:22] <pbx2> morsnowski, I found the location...now how do I go to it in folder view...usually I used to just double click the folder I am on and copy the new directory where I want to go to...
[10:22] <Eagleman> will do, i'm formatting to ext3 now lets see what it says
[10:23] <dz0ny> amagee: ok, can you unplug second monitor, try running amdccle without second monitor connected
[10:23] <morsnowski> pbx2, not sure what you are up to, just copying one file ?
[10:23] <amagee> dz0ny: do i have to unplug it or is turning it off ok
[10:23] <morsnowski> Eagleman, why ext3?
[10:23] <pbx2> nah trying to free up space
[10:24] <morsnowski> so is it one or multiple ?
[10:24] <Eagleman> becuase ext4 isnt supported bu partimage
[10:24] <rraj> Hi , Is it possible, while on skype, to make others on call to hear the song that im playing while im using headphone in ubuntu
[10:24] <Eagleman> by
[10:24] <rraj> ?
[10:24] <dz0ny> amagee: try just unplugin with no restart
[10:24] <Aspire> what version of Ubuntu do you use?
[10:24] <pbx2> both?
[10:24] <amagee> dz0ny: i mean can i just turn the monitor off instead of unplugging it
[10:25] <Eagleman> me Aspire
[10:25] <morsnowski> hmm you can do that by hand over nautilus or you script it
[10:25] <IronSight> rraj umm stereo mix input to the mic?
[10:25] <Aspire> Yes can just turn off the monitor
[10:25] <IronSight> but that would cause like, echoing if they talked
[10:25] <pbx2> Aspire, Ubuntu 12.02 LTS on 2d unity right now
[10:25] <rraj> Yes IronSight
[10:25] <dz0ny> amagee: no you must unplig it because pc still senses monitor in suspend mode
[10:25] <amagee> ok
[10:25] <dz0ny> unplug*
[10:26] <rraj> it doesnt matter IronSight, I just want to play a song over the call
[10:26] <Aspire> umm?
[10:26] <Aspire> What version of Ubuntu do you use?
[10:26] <IronSight> rraj. play around with your recording mixer
[10:26] <Eagleman> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:26] <rraj> Yeah, Alsa Mixer you mean?
[10:27] <amagee> dz0ny: did that, didn't help
[10:27] <IronSight> rraj, if that's what you use, I use something that came with xubuntu
[10:27] <Eagleman> mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb
[10:27] <Eagleman> Proceed anyway? (y,n) YES
[10:27] <Aspire> 中文
[10:27] <amagee> i can open amdcccle, but when i try to unmirror the monitors and hit Apply, it still crashes
[10:27] <rraj> IronSight: I should check.. its been a long while i started tweaking ubuntu
[10:28] <rraj> searched online, but couldnt find anything helpful
[10:28] <IronSight> I know in windows it's pretty easy to do
[10:28] <IronSight> in linux I would just host a shoutcast/icecast server lol
[10:29] <morsnowski> rraj, if you click on your speaker icon you should have sound settings and in there are applications currently playing
[10:30] <pbx2> !resize
[10:30] <Jancoover> Is there any program for Ubuntu that supports RAR archives?
[10:30] <IronSight> man, it's going to take another 3 hours to finish this upgrade, should have bought an SSD
[10:30] <LjL> !info unrar | Jancoover
[10:30] <blackshirt> Jancoover, unrar
[10:30] <Jancoover> thank you guys
[10:30] <pbx2> Jancoover, I thought 7zip also supported that?
[10:30] <dz0ny> amagee: sorry I don't have more ideas why it doesn't work you can try manually setting xorg.conf, for example this is mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009466/
[10:31] <Aspire> Why does some RAR cannot be opened？
[10:31] <morsnowski> Jancoover, just type rar into the software center
[10:31] <dz0ny> also dual screen
[10:31] <dz0ny> the only thin that you should adyust  are resolution and display ports crt ,dfi
[10:31] <IronSight> Jancoover, if you get the basic rar and 7z apps, the archive manager can use them
[10:31] <amagee> ok, will try
[10:32] <pbx2> I want to resize the Ubuntu partition and make it smaller. I assigned it too much space. How do I do that?
[10:32] <Outlander> Hi, solved my dual boot issues using EasyBCD
[10:32] <blackshirt> Pbx2, you can use gparted through  live cd
[10:32] <IronSight> pbx2, make a gparted cd
[10:32] <hk19> Jancoover, ubuntu will automatically download   necessary files
[10:32] <Outlander> So all was fine, was installing stuff and had a lock up. Now when I boot into linux, I just see a bright blue screen. It has logged into X but doesn't appear to be loading the desktop manager
[10:33] <Outlander> what might I dpkg --reinstall to resolve this?
[10:33] <pbx2> and then just drag to make it smaller? It wonk nuke my files right?
[10:33] <pbx2> *wont
[10:33] <pie_> How can I remove Zeitgeist? I'm using the classic GUI, no need for Unity.
[10:33] <IronSight> Outlander, can you ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal?
[10:33] <ksian1> how often does Ubuntu sync the time over the Internet?
[10:33] <amagee> dz0ny: any hints as to what the display ports would be if i am using two DVI ports?
[10:34] <Outlander> yeah that's what I'm in now
[10:34] <blackshirt> Pbx2, yeah...gparted works great for me,but maybe you want backup your data
[10:34] <IronSight> Outlander, did it ask for a username and password to get to that non-window managed desktop?
[10:34] <Outlander> I can even log out of x to the login page again and even guest login goes blue and doesn't load anything. I can hit ctrl-alt-del to log out, back to login screen
[10:34] <Outlander> yeah username and password page is working
[10:35] <pbx2> blackshirt, ok thanks I will try
[10:35] <IronSight> Outlander, on that login page, can you setup the session?
[10:35] <IronSight> most XDM clones let you select the session (window manager/desktop enviroment)
[10:35] <Outlander> will try...
[10:35] <blackshirt> Pbx2, backup was important step you should do...lost your data was your risk
[10:36] <Outlander> ok I can switch between regular and 2d gnome, the icon for it is missing though
[10:36] <IronSight> if you don't have one on the list, then install one, relog, and it should show on the list of sessions
[10:36] <Outlander> 2d logs in with the same blue screen but with the gnome bar along the top, so can log out using it
[10:36] <ManDay> Hello, this is not really an ubuntu question but you guys always know everything, so please be kind: Where is the mailcap files canonically documented?
[10:36] <IronSight> like try to install xfce
[10:36] <IronSight> Outlander, might be a video driver issue?
[10:37] <dz0ny> amagee: DFPx x is the internal number, I forget which tool displays connected ports and their internal names (i'am googling it now :))
[10:37] <Outlander> uninstall proprietry ati driver?
[10:37] <pbx2> is there a way to move the top bar (with start menu etc.) to the bottom, like in windows? (using Unitiy interface 12.02)
[10:37] <morsnowski> Outlander, first I'd do is go to a terminal session and run sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get install -f
[10:37] <Outlander> apt-get shows packages all appear to be in order
[10:38] <Jancoover> what on earth is my problem?when I extract files from RAR archives they do not appear in the target folder
[10:38] <sary> Outlander: I'd look in ~/.sessions-errors , and might reconfigure X .
[10:39] <Outlander> cheers, will try now
[10:39] <dz0ny> @amagee: you can try generating aticonfig --initial=dual-head
[10:40] <sm_> hello everybody
[10:40] <IronSight> hello
[10:40] <dz0ny> and then copying values from thhere
[10:40] <Outlander> it's trying to load a png and says unrecognised image file format
[10:40] <sm_> is there anyone familar with network
[10:40] <Eagleman> so i finally made a partition and formatted it as ext 3
[10:40] <sm_> ?
[10:40] <amagee> dz0ny: still no luck.  going to give up for now i think
[10:40] <Eagleman>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:40] <blackshirt> Jancoover, read the manual first, are you sure issuing the right command?
[10:40] <amagee> thanks for your help
[10:40] <IronSight> Outlander sudo apt-get install libpng?
[10:40] <Eagleman> but it isnt showing ext3 in fdisk -l
[10:41] <dz0ny> what dows aticonfig --list-adapters say
[10:41] <Outlander> trying png install nw
[10:41] <Outlander> now
[10:41] <dz0ny> does*
[10:41] <Eagleman> ./dev/sdb1            2048  1953525167   976761560   83  Linux
[10:41] <blackshirt> Eagleman, what you mean?
[10:41] <Eagleman> well i want to see wich file system it uses
[10:41] <amagee> dz0ny: * 0. 01:00.0 ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
[10:41] <eutheria> does anyone here use sssd to cache user details fro ldap? and have weird issues with pam and local users?
[10:41] <amagee> and * - Default adapter
[10:42] <sary> Outlander: it's also possible tha the proprietry graphic driver is causing this .. try the open-source one and see how it goes.
[10:42] <Eagleman> all it shows is linux
[10:42] <Eagleman> not ext3 or ext4 or something
[10:42] <pbx2> I want to try Win8 via dual boot (without virtualbox etc). do I need to be worried about it overwriting the boot menu (grub boot loader?) which has Ubuntu in the start?
[10:42] <IronSight> pbx2, yes
[10:42] <Outlander> any main package I can install or reinstall to drag the rest through that might be missing?
[10:42] <dz0ny> amagee: do you have HD 5700
[10:42] <dz0ny> ?
[10:42] <IronSight> pbx2, create a grub live cd to fix it when it does
[10:43] <amagee> dz0ny: yes
[10:43] <pbx2> IronSight, and then I can have win 7, win 8, and ubuntu. right?
[10:43] <dz0ny> amagee: me too
[10:43] <IronSight> sure, if you setup your partitions like that
[10:43] <dz0ny> you can use that config directly
[10:44] <IronSight> just be prepared to fix your MBR
[10:44] <eitch> hi guys, what happened to dnotify? Has it been superseded by inotifywatch?
[10:44] <amagee> hmm let me log out one more time
[10:44] <pbx2> IronSight, how would I go about fixing my MBR? the grub live cd won't do it for me?
[10:45] <IronSight> pbx2, it will, just educate yourself on how to do it
[10:45] <Eagleman> blackshirt, i want to have a command that shows me wich file systems harddisks uses like ext3 ext 4
[10:45] <blackshirt> Eicth, yes, i think..dnotify was obsoleted by inotify framework
[10:45] <sary> Eagleman: mount , should show
[10:45] <IronSight> :)
[10:45] <blackshirt> Eagleman, issue mount command
[10:46] <pbx2> IronSight, oh and right now the partitions are like this: Win  7, Ubuntu. I am going to make empty space at the end (Gparted gui), so then it would be Win 7, Ubuntu, Win 8.
[10:46] <sary> Outlander: you mean a package associated wih X !
[10:46] <morsnowski> Eagleman, try blkid
[10:46] <Outlander> or how would I reinstall X ?
[10:47] <IronSight> pbx2, it would be cool if you could install in a VM to that partition without giving it access to your MBR
[10:47] <IronSight> then booting it with grub ^_^
[10:48] <pbx2> IronSight: if I do it that way, Win 8 will get access to all my hardware devices after install? Or will it be like Virtualbox?
[10:48] <pbx2> IronSight, direct access I mean?
[10:48] <IronSight> pbx2, I don't even know if that can be done, just saying it would be "cool"
[10:48] <amagee> dz0ny: still no luck.  i've used your xorg.conf, changed the numbers around a bit for different resolution, but the monitors are still mirrored
[10:48] <pbx2> oh :)
[10:49] <amagee> i mean cloned
[10:49] <Outlander> or can I just install "gnome" and have it drag a lot of stuff down?
[10:49] <Jancoover> Unrar doesn't want to extract files(((((
[10:49] <Jancoover> jan@jan-K52JU:~$ unrar Downloads/Romanova_tests.rar
[10:49] <Jancoover> unrar 0.0.1  Copyright (C) 2004  Ben Asselstine, Jeroen Dekkers
[10:49] <Jancoover> Extracting from /home/jan/Downloads/Romanova_tests.rar
[10:49] <Jancoover> Extracting  �. �. �������� -- ������᪠� �ࠬ��⨪� � ������.doc      Failed
[10:49] <Jancoover> 1 Failed
[10:49] <FloodBot1> Jancoover: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <sary> Outlander: either from recovey mode as in a root shell , or as a single user mode in virtual console .. if you're root don't sudo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. if you're going to reconfigure X in a virtual console stop the disply manager first .
[10:50] <IronSight> !pastebin|Jancoover
[10:50] <anos> hi my system load average is up about 1.3
[10:50] <Outlander> sary: will give it a go, cheers
[10:50] <anos> but it has a cpu usage around 3%
[10:50] <anos> how it can be  possible
[10:50] <anos> ?
[10:50] <Eagleman> what is /dev/mapper/eagleman-root
[10:50] <sary> Outlander: sudo service lightdm stop , should do it .
[10:51] <IronSight> Jancoover, looks like you have a corrupted rar file
[10:51] <blackshirt> Eagleman, are you using lvm for your partition?
[10:51] <Eagleman> yes
[10:51] <morsnowski> Eagleman, that is some drive you mounted
[10:51] <Eagleman> i want to use partimage but since it doesnt support ext4
[10:51] <blackshirt> Eagleman, that was typically lvm based disk
[10:51] <Eagleman> ./dev/mapper/eagleman-root: UUID="43bc9872-8524-4cc8-9912-821b2083d389" TYPE="ext4"
[10:51] <morsnowski> Eagleman, any reason not to use a gparted cd ?
[10:52] <IronSight> Jancoover, try a different rar file, see if it extracts
[10:52] <IronSight> something from a different source
[10:52] <morsnowski> Eagleman, i have the same for it's a truecrypt drive
[10:52] <Eagleman> why should i use gparted?
[10:52] <morsnowski> Eagleman, because it does ext4 ?
[10:52] <Eagleman> i didnt encrypted anything so its just a useless partition?
[10:52] <morsnowski> i go and have a coffee
[10:53] <Eagleman> so gparted can make a 1:1 disk image of my ubuntu server?
[10:53] <pbx2> morsnowski: are you using full disk encryption with TrueCrypt + dual boot OS?
[10:53] <pbx2> is that possible?
[10:53] <morsnowski> pbx2, i have a 2tb usb disk thats fully encrypted
[10:53] <IronSight> he's getting coffee
[10:53] <morsnowski> :) but now i'll have one
[10:53] <Eagleman> :)
[10:54] <dashavoo> I just set some package selections and noticed that it will have some unwanted side effects. How to I reset the selection list so that everything will be left as it is?
[10:54] <Eagleman> how hard is it to make a 1:1 copy of my ubuntu server, like northon ghost or acronis?
[10:55] <ahri> Hey everyone, I'm trying to run "vlc -I http" on a proxmox OpenVZ ubuntu. The rest is on a pastebin (http://pastie.org/3976076) to not flood the channel
[10:55] <IronSight> Eagleman, as easy as learning DD
[10:56] <Eagleman> well it works way different then in windows
[10:56] <pbx2> I want to make full system encryption...so first it goes to Truecrypt Bootloader where I enter my password...after that I want it to show the different OS menus for boot....I just never had the courage to try it....because I don't know if it is possible?
[10:56] <Eagleman> in windows you get the disc in, press backup, and restore it on another hard drive or even another pc
[10:56] <IronSight> pbx2 try it on a lab pc that's not being used
[10:57] <IronSight> if it doesn't work, then at least you didn't screw up a production macehin
[10:57] <ahri> Hey everyone, I'm trying to run "vlc -I http" on a proxmox OpenVZ ubuntu. The rest is on a pastebin (http://pastie.org/3976076) to not flood the channel
[10:57] <IronSight> machine*
[10:57] <DoctorD90> Hi!
[10:57] <dz0ny> amagee: what does Ubuntu screens app say
[10:58] <amagee> dz0ny: say where?
[10:58] <DoctorD90> In 12.04 where is old style list of applications? (internet, office, develop)
[10:58] <dz0ny> ahri: use vlc-nox
[10:59] <dz0ny> ahri: or cvlc
[10:59] <pbx2> IronSight, I hope dual booting will work using truecrypt...because I am in shortage of hard-drives right now...and I can't move data for back up to a system that is not 100% encrypted
[10:59] <dz0ny> amagee: under system settings
[10:59] <ahri> dz0ny : vlc-nox & cvlc is just "sli" editions of vlc?
[10:59] <IronSight> you could ask the truecrypt guys
[11:00] <ahri> dz0ny : and are they cabeble of http interface?
[11:00] <IronSight> shoot off an email to them
[11:00] <dz0ny> ahri: yes
[11:00] <pbx2> IronSight: they won't even let me sign up in the forums...you need an ISP email to sign up there
[11:00] <DoctorD90> Guys? Someone can help me ? Pls? :(
[11:00] <K-J158> hi
[11:00] <ahri> dz0ny : okay thanks alot! I will go google that :)
[11:00] <Outlander> ok, so I can get into X, I can run things with alt-f2, I can create a new folder on the desktop
[11:00] <IronSight> pbx2, make a mail server ^_^
[11:00] <Outlander> but cannot see any window edges/bars
[11:00] <amagee> oh omg things are happening!
[11:00] <Outlander> like the window manager hasnt loaded properly
[11:01] <pbx2> ;)
[11:01] <manisabri> Hi. I upgraded to 11.10 64 from 11.04 and yahoo disappeared from empathy protocols, any ideas?
[11:01] <K-J158> i'm using gnome shell on my ubuntu 12.04 box, and when i'm launching a opengl application, gnome shell is using 100% of the cpu, like the opengl application. my computer has 8 CPu cores and 8 Gb of ram
[11:01] <amagee> oh it's working!  i didn't try opening Displays after using your xorg.conf but now i've done that and it's working :D
[11:01] <IronSight> no really, it's pretty easy to make a mail server, then it's just pbx2@yourip.com
[11:01] <K-J158> can i configure my system for using more than 1 core ?
[11:01] <morsnowski> outlander you can add that with ccsm
[11:02] <IronSight> well, pbx2@yourip something like that
[11:02] <pbx2> IronSight, is there a gui interface for setting that up? :)
[11:02] <K-J158> the application is slow, but only 2 cores are used ... then if gnome shell or/and the application can use more than 1 core, i think that the problem can be solved. the opengl application is based on java
[11:02] <IronSight> it helps if you have DNS
[11:02] <dz0ny> amagee: :) glad to help
[11:02] <amagee> thanks for your comprehensive help!
[11:03] <IronSight> pbx2, umm, maybe in windows
[11:03] <morsnowski> IronSight, any selfrespecting mailsoerver is going to tell you that this isn't on. a mx record should point to a a record not an ip
[11:03] <pbx2> for DNS == 8.8.8.8
[11:04] <DoctorD90> >,> ....someone may tell me where is old style applications list??? Pls?
[11:04] <rr> join #planner
[11:04] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, what are you trying to achieve
[11:04] <dlentz> DoctorD90, do you mean synaptic package manager?
[11:04] <IronSight> pbx2, their site should have a "contact us" email addy you can use to ask a question
[11:05] <manisabri> no yahoo protocol in empathy ! any ideas?
[11:05] <DoctorD90> In 11.xx in "menu" was there list of applications : office, internet , system, games
[11:05] <IronSight> manigma77_, try pidgin?
[11:05] <DoctorD90> In 12 now, with new interface isnt there :(
[11:05] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, the gnome panel?
[11:05] <DoctorD90> Ubuntu
[11:05] <pbx2> Thanks IronSight and morsnowski for all help today
[11:05] <morsnowski> :)
[11:06] <DoctorD90> (im new in linux world sorry xP)
[11:06] <ahri> dz0ny : maybe i haven't been look that much into it, but when i run "cvlc -I http" i get the exact same error
[11:06] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, you need to install gnome desktop and then chose it before logging in
[11:06] <DoctorD90> On netbook i install xubuntu, but i dont remember if on it i find menu, so
[11:06] <Amariello98> !lista
[11:06] <DoctorD90> *.*
[11:06] <DoctorD90> How?
[11:06] <IronSight> personally I don't use messaging apps in linux though, that's what my asus eee pad is for :)
[11:07] <DoctorD90> I love old style menu >,>
[11:07] <DoctorD90> Here i cant find application TT
[11:07] <IronSight> DoctorD90, you could use xfce :)
[11:07] <morsnowski> press ctrl-alt t
[11:08] <IronSight> I use it, it's just like old school gnome
[11:08] <DoctorD90> Im on phone now xP so, tell me cmds, later i will run! Many thx!
[11:08] <manisabri> IronSight pidgin was for me? Am I showing as manigma77_ ?? I thought I was manisabri... trying to install it now, so nobody has yahoo protocol in his protocol list of empathy any more? its normal?
[11:08] <morsnowski> now you should have a nice black window, there you type sudo sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[11:08] <DoctorD90> Ah in yerminal
[11:08] <DoctorD90> T*
[11:08] <DoctorD90> Ok
[11:08] <DoctorD90> Xcfe.....what is the difference?
[11:08] <IronSight> manisabri, sorry, I press tabs for names, and I miss-tabbed I guess
[11:09] <IronSight> (auto-complete = tab)
[11:09] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, it's just another dekstiop
[11:09] <ahri> dz0ny : maybe i haven't been look that much into it, but when i run "cvlc -I http" i get the exact same error
[11:10] <IronSight> Xfce is another desktop, it's fast and small, not the fastest though, but still easy to use
[11:10] <DoctorD90> And what us the difference between gnomw and xcfe?
[11:10] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, you can try both
[11:10] <IronSight> xfce runs like old gnome, except it has a little dock that will pop up on the bottom
[11:10] <manisabri> IronSight : No problem : ) pidgin is moaning this : Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.10.0-z) but 1:2.10.2-1~getdeb1 is to be installed
[11:10] <DoctorD90> How i can try both? :D
[11:11] <Eagleman> This should make a backup of my entire ssd ( sda ) and copy it to hdd1 ( sdb ) right?
[11:11] <Eagleman> dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/hdd1/Backups/sda.bin bs=1024
[11:11] <morsnowski> now you should have a nice black window, there you type sudo sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[11:11] <morsnowski> then you have gnome
[11:11] <IronSight> DoctorD90, install xfce, if you like it, use it as your session in your XDM clone (the first login screen you see)
[11:11] <DoctorD90> Ok
[11:11] <IronSight> if you don't like it, remove it
[11:11] <morsnowski> do that first then we talk about xfce
[11:12] <DoctorD90> Wait xD sudo ...gnome, i get gnome desktop
[11:12] <Outlander> so the problem looks like compiz
[11:12] <Outlander> I uninstalled it
[11:12] <DoctorD90> To instal xcfe?
[11:12] <Outlander> what might I put in place of it for now?
[11:12] <morsnowski> outlander you can set these things very easily in compiz
[11:12] <Guest91918> compiz is broken
[11:12] <morsnowski> takes all of 15 seconds
[11:12] <Guest91918> crashing saying "report error?"
[11:12] <Guest91918> etc
[11:13] <IronSight> DoctorD90, I would just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:13] <Eagleman> This should make a backup of my entire ssd ( sda ) and copy it to hdd1 ( sdb ) right?
[11:13] <Eagleman> dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/hdd1/Backups/sda.bin bs=1024
[11:13] <Guest91918> cheers
[11:13] <DoctorD90> To install xcfe :    sudo apt-get install xcfe-shell   ?
[11:13] <DoctorD90> Ahok
[11:13] <dz0ny> ahri: it should work, try updating vlc via ppa
[11:13] <q_> audacity with xubuntu 12.04:  suddenly audacity freezes with error in cmd line: ALSA lib pcm.c:7339:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred (5 times) - what is this and how to prevent that?
[11:13] <IronSight> since that gives you all the needed tools and such
[11:14] <DoctorD90> So i can try both
[11:14] <DoctorD90> To uninstall??
[11:14] <IronSight> then remove xubuntu-desktop :)
[11:14] <DoctorD90> Sudo uninstall PACKAGEname?
[11:14] <IronSight> umm, I use synaptic to uninstall packages :/
[11:15] <DoctorD90> Ah ok
[11:15] <IronSight> I'm lazy :)
[11:15] <DoctorD90> Software center.....the app store? Yesx
[11:15] <DoctorD90> ?*
[11:15] <IronSight> I think you can use the software center too, I just don't use it
[11:15] <dz0ny> ahri: also which version of Ubuntu server  you use, because use use very old version of vlc currently it is VLC  2.0.1 Twoflower
[11:16] <op_> Guys anyone knows how to fix issue with conky-colors and --cputemp now shoing (crashing whole conky) ? sensors are showing this http://pastebin.com/Ym81gJma
[11:17] <DoctorD90> [13:16] (IronSight) I think you can use the software center too, I just don't use it   <<  and if center is not synaptic......what is synaptic o_0
[11:17] <DoctorD90> ?????
[11:17] <ahri> dz0ny : root@VLC:~# uname -a Linux VLC 2.6.32-11-pve #1 SMP Wed Apr 11 07:17:05 CEST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:17] <IronSight> synaptic is the older school way of doing things
[11:17] <DoctorD90> Terminal?
[11:17] <IronSight> no, it's gui
[11:17] <DoctorD90> Ah
[11:17] <DoctorD90> Like in windows?
[11:18] <IronSight> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:18] <IronSight> then sudo synaptic
[11:18] <IronSight> in x
[11:18] <IronSight> yeah, it's a window
[11:18] <ahri> dz0ny : Proxmox template used: ubuntu-10.04-standard_10.04-4_i386.tar.gz
[11:19] <Outlande1> hi team, installing xubuntu-desktop seems to have fulfilled any missing required packages that ubuntu-desktop needed, didnt have but thought it had
[11:19] <op_> Anyone ? ^
[11:19] <Outlande1> I've now installed ubuntu-desktop again and all seems well
[11:19] <Outlande1> rebooting to see if it sticks
[11:19] <Outlande1> cheers!
[11:19] <ahri> dz0ny : VLC version 1.0.6 Goldeneye
[11:20] <dz0ny> ahri: Update vlc and it will work see this ppa https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily
[11:20] <DoctorD90> So i have to run before install, then run synaptic?
[11:20] <ahri> dz0ny thatnks i'll try
[11:21] <IronSight> you don't have to run synaptic to uninstall
[11:21] <IronSight> I just don't remember how to uninstall without it lol
[11:21] <IronSight> because litterally, I only use synaptic to uninstall anything
[11:21] <sary> sudo apt-get remove --purge PACKAGE .
[11:22] <sary> see man apt-get
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> 'remove' can ben left out from that line
[11:22] <TPBEurope> openshot says libx264 and libmp3lame are missing when I try to export to YouTubeHD. How do I fix this?
[11:23] <sary> MonkeyDust: true .
[11:23] <IronSight> now if I needed to use the terminal to remove something like if X crashed, I would man apt :)
[11:24] <IronSight> thank god for the man pages
[11:24] <pranjal710> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I tried a lot, but couldnt enable audio on my laptop. It still says dummy output. Some help would really be highlt appreciated..
[11:24] <DoctorD90> ..guys, when i can read some stuff about this cmd?
[11:24] <Blackshirt> Doctord90, what you mean?
[11:25] <DoctorD90> To know sudo, apt-get, ....main cmdd...
[11:26] <IronSight> sudo = use superuser commands for a single command... apt-get is used to perform package operations (install, fix, remove software)
[11:26] <dz0ny> pranjal710: which laptop? does sound work on other os?
[11:26] <Blackshirt> Doctord90, you should spend your time to read manual first
[11:26] <DoctorD90> I know main cmds of dos (dir, copy, call...) in linux i dont know one xP
[11:26] <IronSight> in order to use apt-get you need to use sudo before it because it needs superuser permissions
[11:27] <pranjal710> dz0ny: yes, I have windows installed, and everything works fine. Laptop: Dell inspiron
[11:27] <DoctorD90> Black, yea.....but i dont find something of good T.T
[11:27] <Blackshirt> Pranjal710, what about others linux distro?
[11:27] <dz0ny> pranjal710: model and version?
[11:27] <IronSight> they use permissions like this because linux systems are houses many times to many users, and you don't want those users doing things they aren't supposed to do, like removing software
[11:28] <DoctorD90> Fot example, why before: [13:11] (morsnowski) now you should have a nice black window, there you type sudo sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[11:28] <DoctorD90> Sudo sudo??? 2timesx
[11:28] <DoctorD90> ?
[11:28] <pranjal710> Blackshirt: Everything worked on 11.10
[11:28] <IronSight> DoctorD90, that was a typo
[11:28] <DoctorD90> Sudo normally i use onle 1
[11:28] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, you can skip one sudo
[11:28] <DoctorD90> Typo = error?
[11:28] <pranjal710> dz0ny: Dell Inspiron N5110
[11:28] <IronSight> yes
[11:29] <DoctorD90> Ah, ok xP
[11:29] <IronSight> you only need to use sudo once
[11:29] <morsnowski> i sometimes type faster than i shuold
[11:29] <Uncledome> does anyone else experience an "internal error" because of xserver-xorg-2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.2 package? >.<
[11:29] <Blackshirt> Pranjal710, i think we need some config, but sorry i don't know
[11:29] <DoctorD90> XD morsnowski xD you burn keyboard xD
[11:30] <sary> TPBEurope: Do you have these codecs installed !
[11:30] <Blackshirt> Uncledome, exactly what the messages?maybe better complete messages
[11:30] <ahri> dz0ny : I get "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/master-daily/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz" when trying to do: "apt-get update" after adding ppa
[11:30] <pranjal710> Blackshirt:Okay
[11:30] <TPBEurope> sary, Yes.
[11:30] <DoctorD90> I run ubuntu 12 on virtual machine on a mac (my dad pc) ....and on a old netbook
[11:30] <DoctorD90> On netbook i run xubuntu12
[11:31] <sary> TPBEurope: have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/openshot/+faq/1040
[11:31] <TPBEurope> sardonyx, will do.
[11:31] <DoctorD90> But i install only xubuntu, i dont using it
[11:31] <TPBEurope> sary, Will do.
[11:31] <DoctorD90> Xubuntu use xcfe, to low hardware pc, rigth?
[11:31] <IronSight> My netbook runs android :/
[11:31] <DoctorD90> XD
[11:31] <Blackshirt> Doctord90, yes
[11:31] <badicalia> what's the best way to bind a command to a gamepad event?
[11:32] <IronSight> course it's a tablet with a keyboard attachment ^_^
[11:32] <DoctorD90> My phone (this) runs android xD
[11:32] <DoctorD90> Lol
[11:32] <dz0ny> ahri: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc
[11:32] <dz0ny> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:32] <Uncledome> Message says: Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error. Executable Path /usr/bin/Xorg, Package: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11-4-0Ubuntu10.2   Problem Type: Crash, Title: xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in DeliverRawEvent(). ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu7, Architecture: amd64, hope thats enough info for ya xD
[11:32] <DoctorD90> I tried, but it doesnt recognize wifi hardware
[11:32] <DoctorD90> So i use xubuntu
[11:32] <IronSight> and it smokes any netbook on the market :) tegra 3 quad core
[11:32] <DoctorD90> I need to test eggdrop
[11:33] <DoctorD90> :Q.....
[11:33] <DoctorD90> I run a server irc
[11:33] <DoctorD90> 2-3 eggdrop
[11:33] <DoctorD90> And xchat xD
[11:33] <DoctorD90> That's all xD
[11:34] <Blackshirt> Uncledome, try to reinstall
[11:34] <master> hello, can someone give me an idea why i can't run my NICs at 1 gigabit. They're stuck on 100mbs. I tried to set it manually with ethtool, however no result
[11:34] <DoctorD90> On android i cant run irc server
[11:34] <tvmaniac> hi,  is it possible to connect to a pptp srv via OpenVPN?
[11:34] <Uncledome> reinstall only the xorg serv or the whole ubuntu again (9th time xD)
[11:34] <DoctorD90> I instal it with sudo apt-get install ircd-irc2
[11:35] <dz0ny> master: does your network support 1g
[11:36] <DoctorD90> Lunch! Later thx!
[11:36] <Blackshirt> Uncledome, just xorg core, and maybe better purge first..you should update your apt database before
[11:36] <sary> Uncledome: in launchpad search for this bug with the same title , if a similare bug exist see if there is a fix , if not then report it .
[11:36] <Uncledome> alright i thought something like that needs to be done. I'll try,
[11:38] <ahri> dz0ny : Still get "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/master-daily/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz" vlc --version still says: VLC media player 1.0.6 Goldeneye
[11:38] <dz0ny> yeah you can remove old repositroy :)
[11:38] <dz0ny> repository
[11:39] <ahri> oh ohm and how do i going about that ? :s
[11:39] <iceroot_> hpux: please dont change nick when asking a questions
[11:39] <Blackshirt> Ahri, looks your ppa was missing
[11:40] <iceroot_> hpux: 100mbit switch in your network, wrong cable, wrong driver (in that order)
[11:40] <dz0ny> ahri: sudo  add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily -r
[11:40] <dz0ny> note the -r
[11:40] <dz0ny> which means remove
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> dz0ny  open Synaptic, Setting, Repositories
[11:41] <dz0ny> on remote server there is no xorg or synaptic or even desktop
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> dz0ny  missed that part in your question
[11:41] <IronSight> well, time to close out all programs, I'll hop on irc with the android while this removes all old apps for the dist upgrade, bbiab
[11:42] <hpux> iceroot_: sorry, because i'm from irssi and by default the nick was the user name
[11:42] <Eagleman> why is this command still backing up /Backups?
[11:42] <Eagleman> tar -cvpzf /media/hdd1/Backups/backup.tar.gz --exclude = /media/hdd1/Backups/  /media/hdd1
[11:43] <hpux> iceroot_: network equipment is fine, cable is correct, drivers seem to be fine
[11:43]  * Walex reckons that backing up the contents of a partition to the same partition is a bad idea
[11:44] <Eagleman> still
[11:44] <Eagleman> exlude isnt working
[11:44] <Jaap> can someone help me with this error?:  (/var/log/syslog) May 27 13:20:01 linuxbak coova-chilli[3782]: net.c: 1197: 1 (Operation not permitted) Cannot create raw socket. Must be root.
[11:44] <Blackshirt> Jaap, use sudo or root user
[11:44] <morsnowski> Jaap, what port number did you try
[11:44] <Eagleman>  tar -cvpzf /media/usbbackupdisk/backup.tar.gz --exclude = /media/hdd1/Backups/  /media/hdd1
[11:45] <Eagleman> it is still backing up backups ...
[11:45] <Jaap> i executed the startup: sudo service chilli start
[11:45] <OerHeks> Eagleman, looks like you backup the backup you are making.
[11:45] <Eagleman> with my new command?
[11:46] <Eagleman> its writing the backup to an external usb disk
[11:46] <Jaap> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009546/ => /var/log/syslog
[11:47] <Eagleman> am i not using --exclude right?
[11:47] <Jaap> and also chilli could not write in /usr/local/var/run
[11:47] <pranjal710> dz0ny: Did you find anything??
[11:48] <OerHeks> Eagleman, i read " tar -cvpzf /media/hdd1/Backups/backup.tar.gz --exclude = /media/hdd1/Backups/  /media/hdd1"  and now you typ "tar -cvpzf /media/usbbackupdisk/backup.tar.gz --exclude = /media/hdd1/Backups/  /media/hdd1"...
[11:48] <morsnowski> Jaap, does /usr/local/var/run exist ?
[11:48] <Jaap> ys
[11:48] <morsnowski> and what are the permissions on it
[11:48] <OerHeks> Eagleman, what job are you running now?
[11:48] <Jaap> morsnowski, yes
[11:49] <Eagleman> Walex told me it wasnt smart to place a backup on the same disk
[11:49] <Eagleman> so now i'm using this command:
[11:49] <Jaap> morsnowski, now i changed it to 777 and the write error was gone.
[11:49] <Eagleman> tar -cvpzf /media/usbbackupdisk/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/media/hdd1/Backups/  /media/hdd1
[11:49] <morsnowski> 777 is dangerous
[11:49] <hpux> sudo reboot
[11:50] <Walex> Eagleman: yes, because of two reasons: same disk means that if the disk fails, you lose both original and backup; and also backing up to the same disk i very slow as the disk arm must travel twice.
[11:50] <Jaap> morsnowski, but i think it is related to the other error i got
[11:50] <xerxes> hello im having trouble with Lubuntu 11.10 and spotify
[11:50] <dz0ny> pranjal710: sorry no, last time I checked sandy bridge was supported under Linux, have you tried forums also try ubuntu-bug audio
[11:50] <OerHeks> Eagleman, that last command looks oke
[11:50] <dz0ny> from command line
[11:50] <Eagleman> true
[11:50] <xerxes> when i try to run spotify from the command line i get "iligeal instruction"
[11:50] <Eagleman> but thats not the main problem right now
[11:50] <Walex> Eagleman: if you have two external disks one strategy could be to backup each to the other.
[11:50] <morsnowski> jaap for low ports you need to be root for high ports it should work as user
[11:50] <xerxes> the native spotify Linux version
[11:50] <xerxes> installed from the repo
[11:50] <dz0ny> pranjal710: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:51] <Eagleman> all i want is to backup my ssd and hdd to an external media
[11:51] <morsnowski> xerxas, can you post the lnik to that spotify package?
[11:51] <Eagleman> and to exclude some files on my hdd
[11:51] <morsnowski> xerxes, can you post the lnik to that spotify package?
[11:51] <Eagleman> but the --exclude command isnt working
[11:51] <Jaap> morsnowski, i don't know which port it uses
[11:51] <pranjal710> dz0ny: I tried, i read about updating alsa, and did so, reinstalled a fresh copy. but nothing happened
[11:51] <xerxes> morsnowski: moment
[11:51] <morsnowski> jaap i don't know that app do you have a link?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  i guess it's --exclude=blah , not exclude = blah , so without the spaces
[11:52] <xerxes> morsnowski: http://www.spotify.com/se/download/previews/
[11:52] <morsnowski> xerxes, thanks
[11:52] <xerxes> morsnowski: ctrl +f sources.list
[11:52] <Eagleman> MonkeyDust, like  --exclude=/media/hdd1/Backups/
[11:52] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust +1
[11:53] <xerxes> anyone having trouble with native spotify for Linux ?
[11:53] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:53] <xerxes> i get iligeal instruction when i run from terminal
[11:53] <dz0ny> pranjal710: what does lsmod say
[11:53] <Jaap> morsnowski link @ private
[11:53] <xerxes> i tried to run gdb on it
[11:53] <xerxes> to see the fault and it get's sig killed
[11:53] <Eagleman> --exclude=/media/hdd1/Backups/ still isnt working
[11:54] <Eagleman> i can see in the output that it is still backing up /media/hdd1/Backups/sda.bin
[11:55] <pranjal710> dz0ny: lsmod output > http://pastebin.com/6zyYLDyz
[11:55] <brontosaurusrex> offtopic: any specifically good rated "power line adapter" suggestions?
[11:55] <brontosaurusrex> ethernet without cabling that is
[11:55] <Jaap> morsnowski, i compiled the app myself, >> 1.2.9
[11:56] <DerZauberer> hi
[11:56] <cornholio> Hi
[11:56] <morsnowski> Jaap, sorry never played with it but if that is supposed to be a wifi hotspot you probably need to have your wirelss card free for it
[11:57] <dz0ny> pranjal710: looks like module is missing report problem via ubuntu-debug sound if you can, sorry
[11:57] <pranjal710> dz0ny: okay, thanks
[11:57] <Jaap> morsnowski, i have a NIC wired to an AP
[11:58] <Eagleman> Looks like  tar -cvpzf /media/usbbackupdisk/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/media/hdd1/Backups  /media/hdd1 does the job right
[11:58] <Eagleman> the problem was the extra / in the end
[11:58] <kkm> Hi, I recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on my pentium dual core laptop, with Intel HD graphics (Sandy Bridge) but it is giving error of not able to identify the GPU,  suggest me some driver repo for this
[11:58] <Jaap> morsnowski, but can't connect to the nic. because of this: May 27 13:20:02 linuxbak coova-chilli[3857]: chilli.c: 7192: Failed to create dhcp listener on eth1
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> !yay| Eagleman
[11:59] <Eagleman> :)
[11:59] <ahri> dz0ny: -r is not reginized
[12:00] <cornholio> can somebody help me please? I am trying to setup a media Player using openELEC which is based on Ubuntu.  I am trying to make a Xorg.conf.new file so i can make edits but i get an error with Xorg -configure.  It appears I have to stop X from running first.  How do I do that?  I can only connect with SSH connection.
[12:01] <morsnowski> Jaap, like said I don't know that app so I can't really help you
[12:01] <Eagleman> And how do i exclude multiple files and folders using the --exclude= argument?
[12:01] <Eagleman> split it using a ,?
[12:01] <Walex> cornholio: you have to stop the display manager service, which display manager runs is listed in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:02] <morsnowski> !cookie | xerxes
[12:02] <Uncledome412> btw thanks for anyone for the tip with reinstalling the whole xorg. purged Xorg and reinstalled it after reboot via command line. works like a charm x)
[12:03] <Walex> Eagleman: multiple --exclude or a list of names in a file and '--exclude-from'
[12:03] <DerZauberer> Does anybody know how to fix the crashing from x server when connection the wacom bamboo fun cte-450 graphictablet?
[12:03] <Eagleman> Ok thanks :)
[12:04] <Walex> Eagleman: or you could use 'find' to select what you want backed up with '--file-from=-'
[12:04] <xerxes> anyone has any idea of why spotify fails ?
[12:04] <cornholio> in my X11 dir I only have xorg-fglrx.conf and xorg-nvidia.conf
[12:04] <JottBe> Hi, I have a problem with pm-hibernate, my system goes down and the state of the session seems perfectly to be suspended on disk, but is not really powered off
[12:04] <cornholio> thats with ls -all
[12:05] <Walex> cornholio: you cna figure out which display manager you run in most cases with 'ps ax | grep dm'
[12:05] <dz0ny> 	
[12:05] <dz0ny> ahri : rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan-stable-daily*
[12:05] <Eagleman> Its just that some folder could become extremly great in size, and the information in those folders isnt really important
[12:05] <Eagleman> like movies
[12:05] <DoctorD90> morsnowski, i come bakc *.*, now i run that cmd *.*
[12:06] <JottBe> this means, the fan is still running and the system can neither be switched off nor on by using the power button. I rally have to disconnect it from the power line to be able to restart it, but then it resumes the session without problems.
[12:06] <Walex> Eagleman: then it may be useful for you to put on the disk a file with list of places you don't want to backup and then use '--exclude-from=...'
[12:06] <Tm_T> !away > jaap_afk
[12:07] <cornholio> That returned:  udevadm monitor -e /n grep dm
[12:07] <Walex> JottBe: there are lots and lots of bugs in support for hibernation in most bioses and devices. Many less bugs in support for suspend to RAM.
[12:07] <ahri> dz0ny : Okay i just setup i hole new OpenVZ: So back to basic, i just run:
[12:07] <ahri> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:07] <Eagleman> so exlcude-from reads the file and then excludes the information inside the file ( like specific folders )?
[12:09] <DerZauberer> That's what I found in the logfiles about the xorg crash: http://pastebin.com/7dY4GnJw
[12:09] <dannel> expecting hibernation to work seems greedy... shutdown only ever works 90% of the time for me :<
[12:09] <JottBe> Walex: but this way already running perfectly before I upgraded about 4 Weeks ago
[12:09] <JottBe> Walex: what would you suggest then?
[12:09] <Walex> JottBe: bugs happen in Linux code too.
[12:10] <Walex> Walex: either debug the issue ("scratch your hitch") or try suspend-to-ram.
[12:10] <danklasson> son
[12:10] <JottBe> Walex: yes indeed. I think in this case it is more likely it is a kernel bug.
[12:10] <Walex> dannel: amazingly many BIOSes and devices can't handle shutdown either.
[12:11] <Walex> JottBe: it could be the removal of workaround for a BIOS/device from the kernel.
[12:11] <Walex> JottBe: it could be the removal of workaround for a BIOS/device bug from the kernel.
[12:11] <JottBe> Walex: in that case I would have to go back to an older kernel, right?
[12:12] <cornholio> Walex, does 'udevadm control --exit' sound right to close my DM?
[12:12] <cornholio> i see there is a stop-exec-queue as well
[12:13] <samster34> hey :) so after I finally got ubuntu to run live, install and boot with the noapic kernel option, I'm wondering...what does this mean? my hardware isn't old or exotic
[12:13] <Walex> cornholio: no... it would be something like 'service gdm stop'
[12:14] <JottBe> Walex: btw suspend to memory also does not work, it causes the same problems and because I have to disconnect from power (my system is not a notebook with a battery) the suspended session is lost
[12:14] <cornholio> whenever I try to use service in the SSH session,  I get "-sh: service: command not found"  it seems I can not do anything with the service command
[12:15] <cornholio> I'm logged on as root
[12:15] <jrib> cornholio: does it work outside of ssh?  How and why are you root?
[12:15] <JottBe> cornholio: are you sure it is in the PATH?
[12:15] <morsnowski> samster34, have a look here it gives you all the boot options and their meaning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[12:16] <morsnowski> splits are great if i just knew how to repress join and split messages
[12:17] <oCean> morsnowski: for xchat, right click on channel-tab > settings
[12:18] <morsnowski> oCean, thanks a mil
[12:18] <JottBe> cornholio: the problem could be, that ssh uses a different profile for which the path is set up different
[12:18] <Eagleman> Walex, if i put this information inside a file (Location: /media/hdd1/Backups/Backupfile ) /media/hdd1/Downloads/Dropbox/* and then use --exclude-from=/media/hdd1/Backups/Backupfile it will not backup dropbox right?
[12:18] <TPBEurope> I have a screenrecorder outputed the file as .movie. How do I convert that to mp4 and preferably resize it?
[12:18] <cornholio> Ah, I see so I am looking at the root X11 folder but when openELEC boots it may be using a different user with a different X11 folder
[12:18] <DoctorD90> morsnowski, sudo gnome: ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[12:19] <DoctorD90> it's go all weel??
[12:19] <cornholio> cd..
[12:19] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, you'll know after that is done and you've rebo
[12:19] <JottBe> TPBEurope: have you tried kino? maybe that can read the format
[12:20] <DoctorD90> ok, see ya in a few secs ^^
[12:20] <samster34> so, anyone have an idea why "noapic" magically makes every distro work on my computers?
[12:20] <TPBEurope> JottBe; Kino? Let me try that.
[12:20] <subanomic> hi
[12:21] <morsnowski> rebooted
[12:21] <subanomic> I have a problem with spawn-fcgi. Is someone here familiar with it? When issuing /usr/bin/spawn-fcgi -P /var/run/initfcgi/example.com.pid -a 127.0.0.1 -p 9000 -p 9000 -u www-data -g www-data -c /srv/http/example.com/chroot -C 3 -- /usr/bin/php-cgi -c /srv/http/example.com, it tells me "spawn-fcgi: child exited with: 2"
[12:21] <OerHeks> samster34, noapic - Disable the "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC)" so your hardware isn't recognized correctly.
[12:22] <subanomic> -c means it should run in a chroot
[12:22] <subanomic> if I leave that away, it works
[12:22] <JottBe> TPBEurope: its great, the only thing which is a bit unconfortable about the tool is that it converts to a internal format before you can work with it and that takes time and a lot of disk space, but if thats not a problem for you, you should definetly try it
[12:23] <TPBEurope> JottBe, I'm gonna have to check it out and see if I can get it working.
[12:23] <Walex> cornholio: anyhow '/etc/passwd' is very unlikely to have anything useful
[12:23] <Eagleman> :S why isnt this working... tar -cvpzf /media/usbbackupdisk/backuphdd1.tar.gz --exclude-from=/media/hdd1/Backup/BackupExclude /media/hdd1?
[12:23] <Walex> cornholio: try instead to do 'ps axf' and post the output to a pastebin
[12:24] <Walex> Eagleman: probably depends on the content of that file, and what "isnt this working" means.
[12:25] <Eagleman> These are the contents: http://pastebin.com/U5ERaK5e
[12:25] <Eagleman> tar: /media/hdd1/Backup/BackupExclude: No such file or directory
[12:25] <Eagleman> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:25] <cornholio> Walex. Thanks for helping me, appreciate it...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009612/
[12:25] <Eagleman> aw i see, i'm so stupid..
[12:26] <Eagleman> The folder was called Backups not Backup...
[12:26] <Walex> Eagleman: if it tells you that file does not exist then it does not exist. Try 'ls -ld /media/hdd1/Backup/BackupExclude'
[12:26] <TPBEurope> JottBe, It looks a bit complicated.
[12:27] <JottBe> Walex: once more about the pm-hibernate-problem. What exactly does it mean, if the bios patch has been removed. Do you think it was completely removed from the source, or is it more likely that it was not configured to be compiled by the ubuntu kernel package maintainers?
[12:27] <JottBe> TPBEurope: it is not just a converter, you can cut your moves, it even is able to identify scenes. Does it recognize your format?
[12:28] <Walex> JottBe: it could be that specific workarounds were removed in a code cleanup, or a new workaround was introduced that broke a previous one. Unlikely to be an Ubuntu specific issue.
[12:28] <CuteKitty>  how can I look at my bootup menu while logged into my  linux? (Hope I don't have to snap a photo with my camera).
[12:28] <Walex> JottBe: I have given up on hibernation...
[12:28] <TPBEurope> JottBe, It didn't, but I told it to import it either way.
[12:28] <Walex> cornholio: I had asked for 'ps axf' (with an "f"), but the one you did might still be useful.
[12:29] <csilk> Anybody want to help me identify what package to assign this bug too?
[12:29] <csilk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1005150
[12:29] <csilk> I know it's vague but I think the issues generally needs raising / discussing
[12:29] <TPBEurope> JottBe, Doesn't look good. The video ended up being sped up to 7,88 sec.
[12:29] <JottBe> TPBEurope: try to call it from the command line with the move as argument.
[12:29] <JottBe> TPBEurope: what tool are you using
[12:29] <samster34> OerHeks: anything I should worry about? both computers that I need to do this for have an intel CPU, one has an intel chipset the other an nvidia one
[12:30] <zorro> #xubuntu
[12:30] <JottBe> Walex: I think you haven't really started. But thanks anyway.
[12:30] <Walex> JottBe: I meant that I don't use hibernation because it is too buggy on too many systems
[12:30] <JottBe> TPBEurope: I meant, what tool were you using to create the movie?
[12:31] <cornholio> I definately did use 'ps axf' tried again with the same output
[12:31] <TPBEurope> JottBe, For recording? Um.. Kazam.
[12:31] <Walex> cornholio: I did some web search and OpenElec is not even remotely an ubuntu derivative
[12:31] <TPBEurope> JottBe, Sorry for the late reply, I couldn't remember the name, so I had to look for it.
[12:31] <OerHeks> samster34, it is not about the CPU, it is the chipset.  not sure if you should worry, you just have no APIC control. fan should run full speed.
[12:31] <Eagleman> I'm also having an issue with hdparm -S since its not working when i set it, and that resulted in my hardisk still spinning after 2 months
[12:32] <Eagleman> it just wont go to standby modes automatic
[12:32] <Walex> cornholio: it is possible that OpenElec uses the BusyBox form of 'ps' which does not have all the options of the normal one.
[12:33] <JottBe> TPBEurope: it is a mac program, isnt it?
[12:33] <Walex> cornholio: however there is a chance that you can stop the X server with 'sudo killall Xorg'. If it gets restarted then it is restarted in 'inittab' and I don't know anything about how OpenElec's runlevels are setup.
[12:33] <cornholio> Sorry to have wasted your time Walex...  I just read their page again and it says that XBMC-live is based on Ubuntu, openELEC is indeed not. I feel such a plank
[12:33] <wylde> csilk: file it against Unity, however odds are it will get invalidated as a "suggestion" or "opinion", and suggested you make a post to brainstorm or another forum.
[12:34] <Walex> cornholio: you might also try 'sudo telinit 2' if it has non-Debian style runlevels. But after that I cannot guess.
[12:35] <cornholio> Walex, you are a Genius!  I've been trying to do that for about 3 days now :)
[12:35] <samster34> OerHeks: I have no CPU fan connected to the motherboards CPU fan connector
[12:35] <morsnowski> look the DoctorD90 is back
[12:35] <DoctorD90> morsnowski, yes, it near old style xP but now is strange go to that xD im confused xD
[12:35] <DoctorD90> i try all type xD
[12:35] <DoctorD90> now im download xubuntu-desk
[12:35] <DoctorD90> downloading*
[12:35] <cornholio> killall Xorg was the one that worked
[12:36] <morsnowski> DoctorD90, can you try typing without these xd and xp things, it makes it hard to read
[12:37] <DoctorD90> in an interface (maybe classic) i find in NAME (account name, top rigth) a line that allow me set status of hotmail, or gmail,but i havent find it in oter
[12:37] <Walex> cornholio: 'sudo killall Xorg' would have hve worked under Ubuntu because under Ubuntu the 'Xorg' is immediately restarted by the display manager...
[12:37] <DoctorD90> what is it???
[12:38] <csilk> wylde, I would have thought it's more  of a GTK issue? Anyway, you're probably right that some gate keeper will come along and invalidate it.  I need to put it somewhere it won't just get ignored or flagged as crap because it doesn't have enough information.
[12:39] <TPBEurope> JottBe, Nah.
[12:40] <olividir> hello... for some reason my ubuntu wont update
[12:41] <Drajwer> trying to install gnome-panel on 12.04 amd64 desktop box gives this.. http://pastebin.com/dJwQXKGK - wtf why it wants to install i386 even if im on x64?
[12:41] <ikonia> Drajwer: please keep wtf comment out of the channel
[12:41] <morsnowski> olividir, any error message
[12:41] <olividir> my computer accidentally got disconnected while updating and now it wont finish those upgrades
[12:41] <ikonia> Drajwer: certain applications sitll need 32bit compatability libs, don't worry about it
[12:42] <olividir> morsnowski: just a sec
[12:42] <q_> audacity with xubuntu 12.04:  suddenly audacity freezes with error in cmd line: ALSA lib pcm.c:7339:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred (5 times) - what is this and how to prevent that?
[12:42] <Drajwer> oh yeah new ubuntu 'long term' gives me alot of the wt.. stuff
[12:42] <olividir> morsnowski: Requires installation of untrusted packages
[12:42] <olividir> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[12:42] <ikonia> Drajwer: can you show me the output of the command "uname -a" please.
[12:42] <Drajwer> Linux my-desktop-box 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:43] <olividir> morsnowski: That's the error message :)
[12:43] <ikonia> Drajwer: are you using any 3rd party repos or PPA's
[12:43] <ikonia> two of those packages look like their versions are from outside the main repos
[12:43] <morsnowski> i'd try a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get install -f
[12:43] <ikonia> !info gnome-panel
[12:43] <Drajwer> nope I just wiped out 10.04 lts and installed 12.04 lts
[12:44] <Drajwer> the only new repo is the one from google-chrome team
[12:44] <Drajwer> and i suppose they dont ship gnome-panel ?
[12:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: so this is a clean 12.04 install with just the chrome repo in addition
[12:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: gnome-panel is in universe, so that's from the official repo
[12:45] <ikonia> Drajwer: give me a minute please, I'm just looking at something for you
[12:46] <ajarmoniuk> yello
[12:46] <ikonia> Drajwer: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list for me, and also list any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d please.
[12:48] <Drajwer> http://pastebin.com/5Kmbu8P9 ikonia
[12:48] <olividir> morsnowski: those update, upgrade and install -f are not working
[12:49] <Drajwer> oh wait
[12:49] <morsnowski> what is the ouput
[12:49] <Drajwer> i was getting one 404 for some time after install on one repo
[12:49] <Drajwer> now i did update and no 404 happens and apt-get install gnome-panel does not pop up this i386 stuff I dont need
[12:49] <ikonia> Drajwer: while I'm checking something could you please just do a "sudo apt-get update" make sure it all updates ok
[12:50] <olividir> morsnowski: all 0 exept for the last one, 10 not upgrated
[12:50] <ikonia> Drajwer: the 386 stuff you may well need, hang in while I'm checking something up
[12:51] <Drajwer> a single i386 package will make a *huge* dependency tree isnt it ?
[12:51] <ikonia> Drajwer: it can do sure,
[12:51] <Eagleman> em why is my file zipped with bz2 bigger than an standard tar.ball?
[12:51] <olividir> for some reason, when I do sudo apt-get updates, it is unable to locate package
[12:52] <Eagleman> backuphdd1.tar.gz 2,232,173,002 bytes
[12:52] <Eagleman> backuphdd1.tar.gz.bz2 2,241,944,341 bytes
[12:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: the first is gzip compressed
[12:53] <ikonia> Eagleman: the second is bzip2 compressed,
[12:53] <ikonia> slightly different compression
[12:53] <olividir> I have 11 updates in my update manager, and it just wont update :D
[12:53] <LinuxMonkey> Eagleman: probably cause your trying to compress a compressed file
[12:53] <Eagleman> aw i see, i;m sorry
[12:53] <siva4080> I'm getting severe problem with Ubuntu Power Manager. My Ubuntu (12.04 LTS) is going to suspend even though sufficient battery is there. This is happening only when the laptop is charging!!
[12:53] <Eagleman> so if i replace the -z to -j it will be lower in size?
[12:54] <siva4080> Could someone tell me what is the problem?
[12:54] <ikonia> Drajwer: I'm curious, can you please pastebin a "sudo dpkg -l | grep 386"
[12:54] <DerZauberer> so anybody knows what to do against the xorg crash with wacom bamboo cte-450? see logs: http://pastebin.com/7dY4GnJw
[12:56] <olividir> so, is there no other way to get those updates? terminal does not install updates
[12:58] <Myr> That was weird... my ubuntu install suddenly kicked me and logged me out when I was typing, what does this mean?
[12:59] <Myr> And I can't see any other users online except myself with the command "users" who could have forced me to log out
[13:00] <olividir> managed to get it going :)
[13:00] <OerHeks> olividir, what error do you get when updating tru terminal?
[13:01] <olividir> OerHeks, I had error about not finding the source... I think, but I got it going
[13:02] <CuteKitty> how can i find out how big the movie file is that handbrake creates?
[13:02] <CuteKitty> ... before handbrake rips?
[13:02] <olividir> OerHeks, just had to check again at the update manager, now everything is fine
[13:02] <morsnowski> olividir, how?
[13:04] <olividir> morsnowski: just by making the update manager check again with the updates... then it worked fine
[13:04] <olividir> morsnowski: don't know why
[13:05] <q__> hi
[13:05] <Stramith> Hellos
[13:05] <OerHeks> CuteKitty, Not. You can set the size before transcoding, select the "Video" tab and enter a number in the "Target Size" box. This will instruct Handbrake to automatically adjust the quality to match the target file size
[13:06] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: perfect. this "target size" is just what i need. thank you!
[13:06] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: but i don't see "target size" box in video tab
[13:08] <dorong> hey
[13:08] <dorong> I have an Ubuntu Precise (12.04) server guest on a mac host (using VirtualBox).
[13:08] <dorong> I've increased the size of the vdi, from 8G to 16G via the "VBoxManage modifyhd" command
[13:08] <dorong> now I'm trying to adjust the partition as well
[13:08] <dorong> I've used gparted via a lived, and increased the main partition, but there's seems to be an lvm partition which is the actual partition all the files are on
[13:08] <dorong> can someone help me increase the partition size ?
[13:10] <flavio61> ciao
[13:11] <DoctorD90> Ciao flavio
[13:11] <dz0ny> dorong: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[13:12] <Paddy_NI> hello I just updated my ubuntu 12.04 (x64) installation and restarted only to find my resolution in now 1024x768 and there is no graphic acceleration
[13:13] <minas> hi. when I press the "super" button, I can see the icons of the applications that are installed. Where are those icons saved? I need to manually erase some because the program is uninstalled but they weren't removed.
[13:13] <Paddy_NI> my gfx chipset is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[13:13] <dorong> dz0ny: I did "sudo lvextend -L16G /dev/mapper/fason--ubuntu-root" but got the error "Extending logical volume root to 16.00 GiB. Insufficient free space: 2309 extents needed, but only 8 available"
[13:13] <samster34> is there any chance I can run both a GTX 570 and a GT 220 at the same time on ubuntu?
[13:14] <cbm> the theme of ubuntu is so ugly
[13:14] <dz0ny> dorong: do you have fixed or auto expanding disk in virtualbox
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !eyecandy| cbm
[13:14] <cbm> they try to just two themes for 5 years?
[13:15] <lea> hello!
[13:15] <flavio61> ciao
[13:15] <lea> i just installed lubuntu on my asus netbook, doing great, but i wanted to change some things, first i want to disable lxsession so i can login in the TTY and run X with "startx" with my .xinitrc... and second im looking for a way to connect with my 3G usb modem from the cli... :)
[13:15] <cbm> uninstall lubuntu
[13:15] <flavio61> !list
[13:15] <cbm> and install ubuntu
[13:15] <dorong> dz0ny: don't remember. how can I tell now ?
[13:15] <OerHeks> CuteKitty, i see, it has been changed, i trow away that old manual.
[13:16] <dorong> dz0ny: Dynamically allocated storage
[13:16] <dz0ny> UNder vbox settings Storeage your disk details
[13:19] <dorong> dz0ny: Dynamically allocated storage
[13:21] <Eagleman> will this work? gzip -dc /media/usbbackupdisk/sda.bin.gz | dd of=/dev/sda1 bs=1024
[13:24] <dz0ny> dorong: I suspected this, because command should be something like lvextend -L +16G /dev/vg01/lvol10
[13:24] <dr3mro> hello , i use ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... is the packages 1) apm  2)laptop-mode-tools needed and is there any packages that helps o make me save power !??
[13:25] <dorong> dz0ny: so what can I do ?
[13:25] <brimlar> is anyone familiar with bug 986524?  basically freezes with 12.04 and radeon...interested in a workaround
[13:25] <hk19> My lap doesn't show the boot screen,I think it's a hardware problem,any idea
[13:25] <dz0ny> dorong: chechk for proper lvm group and logical disk and it should work
[13:26] <hk19> But it goes to the default os
[13:26] <dorong> dz0ny: how do I do that ?
[13:26] <dz0ny> dorong:  commad df (logical partitions)
[13:26] <hk19> Pls
[13:27] <dz0ny> dorong: and lvdisplay
[13:27] <dorong> df has the following:
[13:27] <dorong> the main partition most of the files are on is "/dev/mapper/fason--ubuntu-root        7295744   5123388   1806380  74% /"
[13:27] <bastidrazor> lea: in /etc/default/grub  add "text" to this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" then save and do a sudo update-grub and it will boot to a command prompt every time.
[13:27] <dorong> and the boot is: /dev/sda1                              233191     48022    172728  22% /boot
[13:27] <q__> hi
[13:28] <dz0ny> dorong: what about lvdisplay
[13:28] <dorong> one sec. I'm paste binning it.
[13:28] <hk19> It doesn't show the manufacturer name at the time of booting
[13:29] <sary> ! bug #1001066 > brimlar
[13:29] <dorong> dz0ny: http://pastebin.com/EhSJ0hqU
[13:29] <hk19> My lap doesn't show the manufacturer name at the time of booting
[13:30] <hk19> Pls
[13:30] <siva4080> I'm getting severe problem with Ubuntu Power Manager. My Ubuntu (12.04 LTS) is going to suspend even though sufficient battery is there. This is happening only when the laptop is charging!!  How can I fix it?
[13:30] <dz0ny> dorong: try  lvextend -L +1G /dev/fason-ubuntu/root /dev/sda1
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> hk19  i guess that's before ubuntu loads, so not for this channel
[13:31] <brimlar> sary: thanks.  that bug might be less applicable; I actually get that "GPU lockup CP stall" message in my kern.log just like the guy who submitted 986524.
[13:31] <sary> hk19: you mean at the BIOS screen !
[13:31] <dorong> dz0ny: got the following: "Physical Volume "/dev/sda1" not found in Volume Group "fason-ubuntu""
[13:31] <Shadow2> hi
[13:31] <hk19> sary, yea
[13:31] <q__> the 12.04lts must be install with internet?
[13:31]  * nacnud seems to have annoyed Floodbot1 :/
[13:32] <EuroNerd> q__ you mean, is an internet connection necessary to install 12.04?  No.
[13:32] <LjL> nacnud: why do you say that?
[13:33] <nacnud> It did a test on me. Asking me to id the last digit of a string. Anyway, unless it's totally important; i'll take it as ignored.
[13:33] <DoctorD90> Bb!
[13:33] <q__> but  when i install the 12.04lts without internet,it quit to install
[13:33] <hk19> (sary) but it directly goes to the default os
[13:33] <q__> i install in wubi
[13:33] <Eagleman> dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/hdd1/Backups/sdabackups/sda.bin bs=1024 | gzip > /media/usbbackupdisk/sda.bin.gz
[13:33] <Eagleman> what is wrong with the gzip part?
[13:33] <Eagleman> from 64 gb to 20 bytes cant be right
[13:34] <dz0ny> dorong: what does ls /dev/fason-ubuntu/root -all say any symbolic links
[13:34] <Eagleman> some ultra compressions there
[13:34] <sary> brimlar: Sure , by showing you the bug .. i was trying to say in another word .. try to use the open-source drvier for your GPU and see how it goes .
[13:34] <klync> just upgraded to precise and mp3c is no longer in the dist. anyone know if it's available at another repo? failing that, recommendations for ripping to mp3?
[13:35] <sary> hk19: perhaps a BIOS upgrade is required ! sos as MonkeyDust said .. am not sure how is this could be releated to Ubuntu .
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> !find mp3c | klync
[13:36] <EuroNerd> Hi. I'm starting to learn Ubuntu Server. (Well, I'm generally clueless about Linux.)  How do I best manage a VPS as a beginner?  Should I use Webmin (or some equivalent), or should I set up a VNC connection and try to get the full GUI?
[13:36] <Guest52809> how can i see video thumbnails in the video folder
[13:36] <Guest52809> ubuntu 12.4
[13:36] <Guest52809> the icon with preview
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest52809  in nautilus: View - Icons
[13:37] <Guest52809> where is nautilus setting
[13:37] <fasta> Why doesn't /etc/resolv.conf exist anymore?
[13:37] <klync> MonkeyDust: so, they just changed the name and auto-removed it, but it's still there? i *love* this distro
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> Guest52809  nautilus is the file manager, look on top
[13:37] <fasta> (I know already that it has been replaced.)
[13:38] <brimlar> sary: driver = radeon
[13:38] <fasta> I am asking for why it doesn't exist anymore as a user-editable file.
[13:39] <Eagleman> dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/hdd1/Backups/sdabackups/sda.bin bs=1024 | gzip > /media/usbbackupdisk/sda.bin.gz
[13:39] <Guest52809> monkeydust i type it in the bar but nothing to set the view
[13:39] <Eagleman> what is wrong with the gzip part?
[13:40] <klync> MonkeyDust: nm, mp3cd is not the same pkg, despite a similar sounding desc
[13:40] <Guest52809> dont know where is folder management on unity
[13:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: you don't redirect like that ">"
[13:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: dd - then as a seperate command, gzip the image
[13:40] <usherades> hello any1 know about wiimotedev?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> Guest52809  open your video folder, on top there's File - Edit - View etc , choose View
[13:41] <fasta> How can I tell dash that I want portable sh code?
[13:41] <fasta> I.e., it should refuse to run anything which is not sh.
[13:41] <Eagleman> ikonia i want it within 1 command
[13:42] <Paddy_NI> Hi would any of you know why after an update my graphics drivers are messed up.. resolution has gone down to either 1024x768 or 800x600 and hardware acceleration has vanished I am now in a unity 2d session
[13:42] <Eagleman> so after dd is done i also want the file to be compressed by gzip
[13:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: dd doest output like that
[13:42] <Eagleman> since its old?
[13:42] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: how didyou update them?
[13:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: what ?
[13:42] <klync> Paddy_NI: possibly you have drivers that need to be compiled against the new kernel? such as nvidia's proprietary ones...
[13:42] <Eagleman> dd is an old command line program used for low level copying of files. It is a legacy program from UNIX, as such it does not behave or configure like traditional programs in the GNU suite. Caution is advised, using this command with the wrong operators can cause serious data loss.
[13:42] <Eagleman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[13:43] <brimlar> EuroNerd: your server will perform better if you stick with the command line...might as well start learning it (just my opinion)
[13:43] <Eagleman> they told me there to use the > command
[13:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: it behaves totally like a traditional program
[13:43] <usherades> hello any1 know about wiimotedev?
[13:43] <klync> Paddy_NI: `grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[13:43] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, intel gfx
[13:43] <Paddy_NI> sec
[13:43] <MagicJ> how an I stop 12.04 from popping up the pannel when I move to the left of the screen?
[13:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: to pipe something you have to get output to pipe "through" the next command
[13:43] <sary> brimlar: be with you in a moment. just looking for a proper way to truobleshoot/debug your issue .
[13:43] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: how did you update it - not what card
[13:43] <EuroNerd> brimlar, I suspect GUI thru VNC would be a huge burden, but Webmin shouldn't be a drag on the system?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> MagicJ  use MyUnity, it's in the repos
[13:44] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, oh just used "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:44] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: which package was the problem package ?
[13:44] <Eagleman> si i should use the | ?
[13:44] <brimlar> EuroNerd: Webmin isn't much of a burden, so it is a possible route.  Webmin does seem to get compromised now and again so that's what keeps me away from it, but it's commonly used
[13:44] <Eagleman> so*
[13:44] <Sidewinder> !webmin | EuroNerd
[13:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: no
[13:44] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, linux kernel I believe
[13:44] <Guest52809> monkeydust yepp i m on the icon selection but none of the videos are showing me preview thumb just the film negetive
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, that is why I did not use apt-get upgrade
[13:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: dd does not work like that, it does not output it's command to be piped through
[13:45] <Guest52809> how do i see whats in the video file a frame
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest52809  may depend on the filetype, i guess
[13:45] <EuroNerd> Sidewinder, ok, thx
[13:45] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: sorry, you said you updated your graphics driver, so why do you think the kernel is a problem ?
[13:45] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: what is the graphics driver package that got updated
[13:45] <Sidewinder> NP.
[13:45] <MagicJ> MonkeyDust:  do you mean I need to install MyUnity?
[13:45] <brimlar> Sidewinder: thanks, did not know about webmin support in Ubuntu these days
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, oh not sure :-(
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> MagicJ  yes
[13:45] <Guest52809> 3gp , avi , mp4
[13:46] <Guest52809> none are showing it
[13:46] <Sidewinder> My pleasure. :)
[13:46] <Eagleman> so how can i integrate dd into a cron job
[13:46] <Eagleman> set the gzip command an half hour later?
[13:46] <MagicJ> MonkeyDust:  ty - I will check it out right now
[13:46] <EuroNerd> brimlar, so what would be your recommended least-resistance way of learning Ubuntu Server administration?  I don't want to read a whole book and do 100 tutorials. I need to just get it running and concentrate on my silly web app that I'll host there. :)
[13:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: exactly what I said, write a script that compresses the file AFTER it's finished being written
[13:46] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ok, just tryingto clarify, do you KNOW if there was an update to your graphics card drivers ?
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, oh well no not for sure
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> I am just assuming so
[13:47] <Eagleman> but AFTER is based on time that can be different
[13:47] <brimlar> EuroNerd: perhaps describe what you want to install and I'm sure people here can give some ideas
[13:47] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ok, best to just expain the problem rather than tell preople your graphics drivers got updated if you have no idea if they did or did not get updated
[13:47] <ikonia> Eagleman: sorry what ?
[13:47] <morsnowski> Eagleman, if you want to go zip right away you can do "dd if=/dev/sda1 | gzip -9 > /backup/backup.gz"
[13:47] <ikonia> dd does not output like that
[13:47] <Eagleman> wouldnt that cause for problems?
[13:47] <ikonia> there is no output to pipe to fzip
[13:47] <ikonia> gzip
[13:48] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, Oh well the problem occurred after I updated
[13:48] <ikonia> ls | grep - will pipe the output of "ls" into grep
[13:48] <ikonia> dd if=/dev/sda1 doesn't output
[13:48] <Eagleman> it outputs a file
[13:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: yes, but it doesn't output the contents of that file
[13:48] <Eagleman> true
[13:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: so you have nothing to pipe | through
[13:48] <cameron__> hello
[13:49] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: first point of call, check out the xorg logs
[13:49] <Eagleman> so i'm fine if i make the cron job with dd and an half hour later the gzip command
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo bash -c "dd if=/dev/sda2 | gzip > /media/disk/sda2-backup-10august09.gz"
[13:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: you don't need times
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> perhaps... ;)
[13:49] <EuroNerd> brimlar, I guess I should just ask myself step by step what I want to accomplish and google each step for a tutorial. ;)
[13:49] <cameron__> im trying to follow this tutorial: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,2435,2439#msg-2439
[13:49] <dr3mro> dmesg five me this errer "[Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged"  " apm: BIOS not found."
[13:49] <cameron__> but im up to step 3 and i cant find my device using the dmesg command
[13:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: just do dd if=/dev/ blah blah, then the next command in the script gzip , so that when dd finishes gzip kicks in
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> just googling and saw that at --> http://serverfault.com/questions/52260/compressing-dd-backup-on-the-fly
[13:49] <brimlar> EuroNerd: yeah, that's one way to do things.  If it's just a LAMP server or something similar, there are very quick commands to get the whole thing installed rather painlessly
[13:49] <Eagleman> aight, thanks alot ikonia :)
[13:50] <coder2> how can we install new themes in ubuntu 11.10???n suggest some good themes too pleqse
[13:50] <brimlar> sary:  it's ok if there isn't a great workaround.  I've been having to force a Ctrl-Alt-F2 and issuing: pkill -u <user> -- but this kills everything
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !eyecandy| coder2
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> coder2:  thers several in the repos, and many sites have  ppas for themes such as the webupd8 site. it has ppsa and some good guides and reviews of various themes
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> coder2:  it really depends on exactly 'what' you are wantng to change the look of. the term 'themne' is a bit broad
[13:51] <Eagleman> how do i execute a command after another command in cron job?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  easiest way. make a script that the cronjob runs
[13:51] <cameron__> when i put the device in there is no information to say that it hasbeen plugged in
[13:51] <EuroNerd> brimlar, except, I don't even know in some cases what things are called, and hence don't know what to google.
[13:51] <Eagleman> this is what i've got so far now
[13:51] <Eagleman> #0       4       *       *       3		dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/hdd1/Backups/sdabackups/sda.bin bs=1024
[13:51] <cameron__> but the device says it is connected
[13:52] <coder2> Dr_Willis, thank you
[13:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: no
[13:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: write a SCRIPT
[13:52] <ikonia> then call the script from cron
[13:52] <Eagleman> thats some rocket science for me :P
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> !abs | Eagleman
[13:53] <EuroNerd> brimlar, for instance, I came up with a very silly machine name, so now in prompt I see myname@very-silly-name and I'd like to change the latter. What is that technically called? And won't it break a ton of things if I change it after the whole LAMP is installed?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> also its more common to backup specific partions then the whole hard drive. sda1 vs sda
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> !hostname | EuroNerd
[13:54] <Eagleman> hmm thats alot of text Dr_Willis, i just need some examples so i can edit them
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  theres literally 1000;s of bash scripts on the internetz
[13:54] <doun> anyone online?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> if not millions.. ;)
[13:55] <doun> my logitech keyboard, the caps lock leds not work under tty..
[13:55] <EuroNerd> Dr_Willis, thanks, but isn't the old hostname referenced in a dozen config settings of all the programs already installed (like MySQL, PHP, etc) ?
[13:55] <doun> any help?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-12.html#ss12.2   12.2 Sample: A very simple backup script (little bit better)
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> EuroNerd:  that factoid has been the basic way toc hange the hostname for ages.
[13:56] <Eagleman> Those 5 lines and thats it?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> EuroNerd:  i woul imagine the apps get the hostname the same way all the other apps on the system would do.. by reading the system hostname.
[13:56] <ikonia> EuroNerd: those appes reference localhost
[13:56] <brimlar> EuroNerd:  I'm not certain, otherwise I'd advise.  my hunch is the apps all call "localhost"
[13:56] <EuroNerd> Dr_Willis, OK, thanks :)
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  you wanted an example. theres tons of examples. I donmt know the details of what you are doing.
[13:56] <ikonia> EuroNerd: unless you have manually changed their config to reference a different hostname
[13:56] <EuroNerd> ok
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, I have no idea, the log files are too cryptic for me :-(
[13:57] <ktwohig9> good morning
[13:57] <Eagleman> all i want it to do is execute dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/hdd1/Backups/sdabackups/sda.bin bs=1024 and then gzip to an usbdisk, and then rm sda.bin
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, There are 3 xorg log files
[13:57] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: nothing stands out, no warnings ? (WW) is a warning
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> sec
[13:57] <ikonia> Eagleman: you don't need to rm the bin file, as the gzip will rename it as it compresses it
[13:57] <cameron__> hello?? can anyone help
[13:58] <doun> is there a way to choose my  keyboard type ,other than dpkg-reconfigure console-setup..
[13:58] <Eagleman> ok nice
[13:58] <ikonia> Eagleman: I've told you 3 times what to do 1.) run the dd command 2.) execute the gzip command on the output file - it's that simple
[13:58] <sary> brimlar:  see if you can obtain a full backtrace https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging .
[13:58] <brimlar> sary: okay
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> weird that hes dding from sda. but his other hd is mounted to hdd1
[13:58] <EuroNerd> So now that you see the depth of my ignorance, how would you advise me to learn Linux (and Ubuntu Server in particular) ?   :)   Mind you, I'm an easily frustrated dummy coming from Windows (and using Ubuntu Desktop for past 6 months).
[13:58] <sary> brimlar: good luck .
[13:59] <brimlar> sary: thanks :)
[13:59] <ikonia> EuroNerd: just use it for time - you can't buy time
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> EuroNerd:  pick some topic, start reading up on it, then expand. come back to reread the other stuff as you learn more.
[13:59] <EuroNerd> ok
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> EuroNerd:  top thing to learn for messing with a server would be bash and ssh.
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  the best way to learn, is by just using it, i guess, like we all did
[13:59] <brimlar> EuroNerd: and assume you won't do it perfectly the first time, you will break stuff
[13:59] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, found a few, although they make little sense
[13:59] <Eagleman> Dr_Willis ur saying that i'm also backing up /hdd1 since its located in /media/hdd1?
[13:59] <EuroNerd> copy that
[13:59] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: want to pastebin some of them that look a problem
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, talking about failing to load a font
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> :-(
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> okay
[14:00] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: that shouldn't cause any real issues
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  i dont know  exactly what you are backing up. but its rather rare for drives to be called 'hd'* these days.
[14:00] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: the fonts would just cause the fonts to drop back to default, nothing major
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  you are imageing a whole hard drive. why are you doing that exactly?
[14:00] <Eagleman> its still called /sdb1 but its mounted as /hdd1
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> may be a good idea to stop using the missleading mountpoint then. ;)
[14:01] <brimlar> EuroNerd: one example of how people install a LAMP server in 12.04: http://macinville.com/280/one-liner-installation-of-lamp-server-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[14:01] <c0deMaster> which configuration file to define MX records?
[14:01] <ikonia> c0deMaster: the dns zones files
[14:02] <c0deMaster> ikonia, where are they?
[14:02] <Eagleman> I;m so confused now :P
[14:02] <fasta> How do I add a postinstall script of my own when package foobar is installed/upgraded?
[14:02] <Eagleman> would you mind helping me in a private chat?
[14:02] <ikonia> c0deMaster: on the start of authority dns servers - not your machine
[14:02] <yeats> EuroNerd: brimlar: you can also install tasksel, do 'sudo tasksel', select LAMP server and voila
[14:02] <EuroNerd> brimlar, thanks, but I already have LAMP installed... I just run the standard Ubuntu Server installation, clicking Next at each step... ;)
[14:02] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, this is "Xorg.0.log" http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009724/
[14:03] <yeats> !pm | Eagleman
[14:03] <c0deMaster> ikonia, you mean I can't define MX records on my server, I should do that on the domain registerar side?
[14:03] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: I'll have a read
[14:03] <Eagleman> hmm ok thanks
[14:03] <Eagleman> hadnt tought about that
[14:03] <will3032840> Hello, I need help!
[14:03] <ikonia> c0deMaster: the person who runs your domain#s dns server does it
[14:03] <EuroNerd> brimlar, perhaps I should add, for now I installed Ubuntu Server in a VirtualBox, so that I can learn the basics at my own pace, before I throw away money on a VPS. ;)
[14:04] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, should I paste "Xorg.0.log.old" and "Xorg.1.log" ?
[14:04] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: let me have a read first
[14:04] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, And cheers a million for your time mate :-)
[14:04] <chip__> hi how i can creat a launcher in the new ubuntu? ty
[14:04] <ace7> guys <I need help... I'm trying to make to make new NTFS partition on hard disk using Gparted because I want to install win7, but I can't unmounted it because the partition that I want to resize is currently in use (ubuntu system).. any solution?
[14:04] <cameron__> hello?? im trying to use a small digital photoframe as a video output but the device isnt appearing, can anyone help?:?
[14:04] <will3032840> I am trying to use pandora internet radio in Rythmbox. Can anyone help me?
[14:04] <ikonia> ace7: let the windows installer create your ntfs partition
[14:05] <nsahoo> Anyone with virtualbox experience?
[14:05] <nsahoo> I increased the number of virtual cpus on a 32bit xp guest from 1 to 4. But, I don't see the additional CPUs when I restart the virtual machine.
[14:05] <Paddy_NI> cameron__, the digital photo frame is it connected to your computer via usb?
[14:05] <Eagleman> So let me explain what i'm trying to do. I want a 1:1 copy of my 64gb ssd ( /dev/sda ), and a specific backup ( with cronjobs and tars ) on my hdd1 ( /dev/sdb ), so when my ssd fails i can set the MBR and the ext 3 partition back on another ssd.
[14:05] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: interesting line in there that it can't load the framebuffer
[14:05] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, yeah
[14:05] <Paddy_NI> falls back to vesa
[14:05] <will3032840> Hello????? I am trying to use pandora internet radio in Rythmbox. Can anyone help me?
[14:06] <brimlar> EuroNerd: here's a Canonical PDF server guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/serverguide.pdf
[14:06] <sary> EuroNerd: as fellow ubuntuser said , learn the core system and how things work is the best why for practice , ge familiar with commands line , use the proper tools , check the LPIC exam , use a VPS like linode if you can't can't run the server on another machine .
[14:06] <cameron__> yes Paddy_NI but when ido lsusb there isnt a difference between when i have it plugged in and when i dont
[14:06] <yeats> !details | will3032840
[14:06] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: interesting though that vesa detects your screens available reslutions fine
[14:06] <Paddy_NI> cameron__, there is probably no linux driver in the first place for that photoframe
[14:07] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, yeah and they are not selectable... I can choose 800x600 or 1024x768 :-(
[14:07] <MagicJ> MonkeyDust: I installed myunity - but it fails to run and the documentation  seems to imply it is for 11. series not 12.04
[14:07] <cameron__> Paddy_NI, im following this tutorial: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,2435,2439#msg-2439
[14:07] <ace7> ikonia:in win installer it says it can't because the partition is file system, I only have one partition and ubuntu is using it
[14:07] <ikonia> ace7: ok, so you need to boot from a livecd and shrink your ubuntu partition to make space for the XP one
[14:07] <yeats> cameron__: open a terminal and do 'dmesg | tail' just after you plug in the photoframe... there should be some sort of error output
[14:07] <Paddy_NI> cameron__, My samsung digital photoframe can also be used as a monitor but in windows only
[14:08] <Eagleman> So let me explain what i'm trying to do. I want a 1:1 copy of my 64gb ssd ( /dev/sda ), and a specific backup ( with cronjobs and tars ) on my hdd1 ( /dev/sdb ), so when my ssd fails i can set the MBR and the ext 3 partition back on another ssd. Dr_Willis
[14:08] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: while I'm reading this, have you considered forcing the options/intel driver in the xorg.conf file ?
[14:08] <ikonia> Eagleman: I've told you what to do ?
[14:08] <ikonia> Eagleman: what is not clear
[14:08] <will3032840> Ok so I tried to install the rythembox Pandora internet radio plugin from google code, then I install it, and in plugins it doesn't come up. I am running ubuntu version 12.04, I get no pandora plugin in plugins, but I don't see it. I ran the setup.sh script for it from google code but that didn't work either.
[14:08] <cameron__> Paddy_NI, its a 1.5" one so should work
[14:08] <ikonia> Eagleman: 1.) issue the dd command 2.) gzip the output file
[14:08] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, hmm.. I thought xorg.conf was dead?
[14:08] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, have not used it in years
[14:08] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: no no, it's not used by default as xorg does auto detect, however you can put xorg.conf in place and xorg will obey it
[14:08] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, also when I try to modprobe intel there is no intel_drv
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  another point.. do you know how to restore such an image? if you need to?
[14:09] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: don't worry about that
[14:09] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: that's an nvidia thing
[14:09] <Eagleman> yes i know what to do ikonia but isnt dd also backing up my mount point?
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, oh okay
[14:09] <cameron__> theres lots of messages Yeats
[14:09] <cameron__> ill pastebin it
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, cool will fire up xorg.conf again then :-)
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  dd images the drve at a drive level. you do not want to be running dd on a hard drive partion thats mounted and in use..
[14:09] <ikonia> Eagleman: you're not telling it to backup your mount point
[14:09] <ikonia> Eagleman: you are telling it to backup your partition
[14:09] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: I'm reading/researching your log now
[14:10] <cameron__> yeats and Paddy_NI: http://pastebin.com/H49MwmpX
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  so the 64gb sdd is your / (Main) drive/partition and you are backing it up?
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, your a gent.. oh and "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[14:10] <Eagleman> Dr_Willis i first want to have the backip part right
[14:10] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: spot on
[14:10] <EuroNerd> OK, so I installed Ubuntu Server in a VM, I want to see the default Apache page, so I check the inet addr with ifconfig, and instead of a 192.168.x.x range, I see 10.0.2.15. (And of course it doesn't work when I type it into a browser on the host.)
[14:10] <Eagleman> i'm only gonna use the dd image for an complete restore, executed from a live cd with dd
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  id be doing backups from a live cd setup. not a cron job via DD if its the drve that you are booting from.
[14:11] <yeats> cameron__: sorry - those messages aren't relevant to your issue
[14:11] <cameron__> oh ok
[14:11] <yeats> !pm will3032840
[14:11] <yeats> !pm | will3032840
[14:11] <cameron__> so what do i do yeats?
[14:11] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, its a blank file
[14:11] <will3032840> oh.
[14:11] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: yes you have to create it
[14:11] <Paddy_NI> okay what is the basic skeleton?
[14:11] <Paddy_NI> I have lost that memory :-)
[14:12] <Paddy_NI> I could google actually save you a head ache :-)
[14:12] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: just grab a template of the net, or do an "xorg --configure" (think that's the right option)
[14:12] <Paddy_NI> okay
[14:12] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: you are testing me asking me to generate a blank one from memory
[14:12] <will3032840> Ok so I tried to install the rythembox Pandora internet radio plugin from google code, then I install it, and in plugins it doesn't come up. I am running ubuntu version 12.04, I get no pandora plugin in plugins, but I don't see it. I ran the setup.sh script for it from google code but that didn't work either. Someone please respond to these details of my problem.
[14:12] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, hehe
[14:13] <yeats> cameron__: try 'dmesg | grep -i usb' and see if that shows relevant messages
[14:13] <doun> guys, i want to reconfigure my keyboard, i have try dpkg-reconfigure console-setup,but not work, any ideas?
[14:13] <HorrorRabbit_> hi all
[14:13] <dontknow> i want to change equalizer system wide in 12.04, how can i do that?
[14:13] <yeats> will3032840: you might try asking in the #rhythmbox channel on irc.gnome.org
[14:13] <Eagleman> Dr_Willis "so the 64gb sdd is your / (Main) drive/partition and you are backing it up?" yes it is, my hdd only contains data
[14:13] <will3032840> OK
[14:13] <brimlar> EuroNerd: see if the VM is set up with NAT instead of Bridged networking
[14:14] <HorrorRabbit_> Is there any way to output my wifi connection to ethernet? I want to use my laptop as wireless reciever to a pc without wireless card.
[14:14] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, oh do I need to close X in order for Xorg -configure to work?
[14:14] <EuroNerd> brimlar, yes, NAT
[14:14] <yeats> HorrorRabbit_: yes - you can do that in Network Manager
[14:14] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: on paper yes, but I think you can run it and it will just error as x is still running, but it should still generate the file
[14:14] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, cool
[14:14] <HorrorRabbit_> okay, I'll take a look at it, didnt expect that to be built in
[14:14] <ace7> I tried unmounted the partition using gparted to shrink it but I get this "The partition could not be unmounted from the following mount points: /"
[14:15] <ikonia> ace7: you need to boot from a livecd
[14:15] <cameron__> yeats: not sure if these are revelevant http://pastebin.com/AuBsNWjW
[14:15] <ikonia> ace7: you can't resize a partition that's in use
[14:15] <yeats> HorrorRabbit_: yeah - it's very simple once you know where it is
[14:15] <brimlar> EuroNerd: use Bridged if you want an address that is akin to the other machines on your network, it will pass the VM's interface through and give it a "real" IP
[14:15] <ace7> can I boot from usb pendrive?
[14:15] <sary> brimlar: have you spoted any abnormal errors in ~/.xsession-errors ..
[14:15] <EuroNerd> brimlar, OK, thanks
[14:15] <ikonia> ace7: sure, as long as it's not containing the root file system for your machine
[14:16] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, seems I need to kill X
[14:16] <zykotick9> ikonia: actually i don't think -configure will work if X is running. i think you can use -- :1 to start a second xsession, but stopping dm is probably easier.  Paddy_NI
[14:16] <yeats> cameron__: do you have any other cameras or camera-like devices attached via USB?
[14:16] <cameron__> the webcam yeah
[14:16] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: damn
[14:16] <Eagleman> Dr_Willis "id be doing backups from a live cd setup. not a cron job via DD if its the drve that you are booting from." why would you do that?
[14:16] <yeats> cameron__: okay - that's probably what those lines are
[14:17] <Paddy_NI> zykes-, "sudo killall Xorg" will kill it but it automatically loads again
[14:17] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, ^
[14:17] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, should I be in recovery mode?
[14:17] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: "sudo service lightdm stop" if you use lightdm
[14:17] <HorrorRabbit_> yeats: can I connect a windows pc to it as well?
[14:17] <Paddy_NI> okay
[14:17] <doun> HorrorRabbit_: u can try aircrack
[14:17] <cameron__> yeah
[14:17] <yeats> HorrorRabbit_: yep
[14:17] <cameron__> anything else i can do
[14:17] <brimlar> sary:  nothing except zeitgeist warnings, which don't seem relevant
[14:17] <salvatore_> hi all! how to install Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack? i use Ubuntu 12.04 and have a windows 7 installation running on VM
[14:17] <HorrorRabbit_> yeats: great, thanks
[14:18] <yeats> HorrorRabbit_: sure - happy to help
[14:18] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9 and ikonia I guess I'll brb as I have to leave this session
[14:18] <Kyngdom> has anyone successfully installed ubuntu on a z68 platform?
[14:19] <yeats> cameron__: you could try 'tail -f /var/log/dmesg' then plug in the frame - the point is, there should be some sort of log output if the system recognizes that you plug something in via USB
[14:19] <DrManhattan> how long should mysql take to start?
[14:20] <ace7> ikonia: is there option on win7 installer to shrink the partition?  last time I tried I can't found the option to shrink
[14:20] <cameron__> yeats, i put it in and nothing happened
[14:21] <c0deMaster> is it possible to use the old scroll bar instead of the current one in 12.04 ?
[14:21] <dr3mro> plz help me with these errors http://pastebin.com/9TfdtUTp
[14:21] <sary> brimlar: using gdm , or lightdm .
[14:21] <doun> //win
[14:21] <Paddy_NI> grr zykotick9 ikonia xorg.conf is still blank
[14:21] <doun> how to reg this channel,with /win?
[14:21] <yeats> cameron__: okay - then the computer isn't recognizing the connection
[14:22] <sary> doun which channel !
[14:22] <cameron__> is there anything i can do about it yeats?
[14:22] <brimlar> sary: just the default for 12.04, which is lightDM I think
[14:22] <doun> !reg
[14:22] <doun> !dou
[14:22] <doun> channel !
[14:22] <doun> ....
[14:22] <Paddy_NI> grr zykotick9 ikonia or perhaps "cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf" will work :-)
[14:22] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: did you copy the file?
[14:22] <doun> i want to reg #ubuntu..
[14:23] <ace7> guys.. how to shrink the partition thats ubunto system is on?
[14:23] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, had not realised it generates it in /root/
[14:23] <sary> doun: you can't .. its already registered .
[14:23] <ikonia> ace7: no
[14:24] <blackshirt> ace7: what you mean ?
[14:24] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: FYI (for next time), you can probably use "X -configure :1" while xorg is running to generate the file.  ikonia
[14:24] <ikonia> ahhh maybe that's what I had in my head
[14:24] <yeats> cameron__: sounds like it's a hardware issue... check the cable, try on another computer/OS, try something you know works in the same USB port, etc.
[14:25] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, actually there was no xorg.conf in root
[14:25] <Paddy_NI> read that on a forum
[14:25] <Paddy_NI> :-(
[14:25] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, so use :1 then
[14:25] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: you probably need to use sudo for this.
[14:26] <Paddy_NI> yep
[14:27] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: and it's not going to be named xorg.conf but something else...
[14:27] <ace7> blackshirt: I 'm trying to install win7.. to do that I need ntfs partition or unallocated partition... currently I have only one partition that's ubuntu system is on.. I can't shrink the partition tha's in use and as far as I know there is no shrink option in win7 installer
[14:27] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, xorg.conf.new?
[14:27] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: maybe, sorry i forget what it's called, but xorg.conf.SOMETHING
[14:29] <blackshirt> ace7, you should use livecd to shrink using gparted.. you can't shrink on running system,  i think ext4 not yet support for online resizing
[14:29] <sary> dr3mro: I'd run a memtest and see if the RAM is healthy .. also perhaps a BIOS update is rquired ! just a food for thoughts .
[14:30] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, here is the file it generated http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009759/
[14:30] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, I saved it to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[14:31] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: looks good?  why do you want an xorg.conf with intel?
[14:31] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, My screen resolution and hardware acceleration vanished after I updates my system
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> *updated
[14:32] <Eagleman> I hope i do not look like a complete fool here: http://pastebin.com/MEFnaMZL
[14:32] <Eagleman> will it work?
[14:32] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: well, i hope xorg.conf will help (but doubt it)
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> I am in unity-2d now with a res of 1024x768 zykotick9
[14:32] <ace7> blackshirt: I install gparted on ubuntu.. and yup I can't because the partition is in use.. I don't have livecd, I only have win7 installer in my usb pendrive.. I boot from that pendrive..
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, Do I have permission to cry?
[14:32] <Paddy_NI> ;-(
[14:33] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, Any thoughts?
[14:33] <ace7> blackshirt: care to tell me more about shrink using gparted
[14:33] <yeats> ace7: you'll need to do that with a live CD (the ubuntu install CD has gparted on it)
[14:33] <blackshirt> ace7, you can download live cd
[14:34] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: nope, sorry
[14:34] <doun> a usb stic is ok for a live cd
[14:34] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, It was working wonderfully until I decided to perform an update
[14:34] <blackshirt> ace7: have you ever using partition magic before ?
[14:34] <ace7> nope
[14:35] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, I know it is probably me being a little annoying but this is crazy from an LTS!!
[14:35] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: was there a kernel update?  do you see more then 1 kernel in grub?  (hold SHIFT after bios to see grub menu, if you don't usually see it)  if you do see more then one kernel, does the old one work?
[14:35] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: what's going on
[14:36] <ace7> I install ubuntu using usb pendrive, and that pendrive is now have win7 in it.. forgot to make backup for ubuntu installer... +.+
[14:36] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, I created the xorg.conf and pasted the contents into "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[14:36] <EuroNerd> brimlar, so I enabled the Birdged adapter (and also Host-only, to be sure ;)), but it doesn't seem to be enabled on the server. ifconfig -a gives two more results than ifconfig, so the two seem to be inactive. (No inet addr provided for these two with ifconfig -a.)
[14:36] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, yep there is another kernel
[14:36] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: you shouldn't consider ubuntu, to be enterprise grade software... LTS or not.
[14:37] <Paddy_NI> I guess...
[14:37] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ok, what's the current status
[14:37] <Eagleman> ikonia do you think this will work? http://pastebin.com/N8BeJRwQ
[14:38] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, Should I edit that xorg.conf file now? here is the file that was generated http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009759/
[14:38] <ikonia> Eagleman: why are you writing to sdabackups, why not just write to usbbackupdisk
[14:38] <Eagleman> since its giving me a better overvieuw
[14:39] <ikonia> Eagleman: what ?
[14:39] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ok, that looks pretty good, it's forcing the intel driver, which is good./
[14:39] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: looks a lot more complete than I expected it to be
[14:39] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ahhhh
[14:39] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: I see it
[14:40] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: you have two video cards defined
[14:40] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: one of them is set to vesa
[14:40] <Eagleman> ikonia so like this? http://pastebin.com/Bx7Enq4T
[14:40] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, cool... so the intel driver it is using is just called "intel" and not "intel_drv" like the log file complained about being unable to load
[14:40] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: 1.) why is there two video cards defined 2.) what is the second video card
[14:40] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, hmm this is a laptop
[14:40] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: "intel" is the right one, so that's good,
[14:40] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: not a dreaded optimus video card is it ?
[14:40] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, It has a hdmi and vga port
[14:40] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, I dont think so
[14:41] <ikonia> Eagleman: then you don't need the vesa
[14:41] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: that shouldn't be a second card, that's just a second output
[14:41] <Eagleman> vesa?
[14:41] <ikonia> Eagleman: sorry the "mv" command
[14:41] <ikonia> Eagleman: you're writing to the right place, so there is nothing to "move" at the end
[14:41] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: does this list 2 cards?  "lspci -v | grep -i vga"
[14:41] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, no idea where the second display is coming from... perhaps it is remembering my television or something?
[14:42] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: again, that's an output - not a card
[14:42] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9, one moment
[14:42] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: it things there are two cards, check out zykotick9's command
[14:42] <ikonia> "thinks"
[14:42] <Paddy_NI> ikonia and zykotick9, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[14:43] <Eagleman> gzip /media/hdd1/Backups/sdabackups/$OF isnt moving the file to my external usb disk?
[14:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: no
[14:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: look at hat you are doing
[14:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: just make the output file the final place you want it to be
[14:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: eg: OF=//media/usbbackupdisk/sda-$(date +%Y%m%d).bin
[14:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: (with one /)
[14:44] <Eagleman> i'm such a noob...
[14:45] <Paddy_NI> zykotick9 and ikonia, lspci > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009778/
[14:45] <ikonia> I see one card there
[14:45] <Paddy_NI> also with 12.04 I noticed that my hdmi no longer works
[14:45] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: strip the second card out of the xorg.conf
[14:45] <Paddy_NI> okay
[14:45] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: (the one with the vesa driver)
[14:45] <HelloWorld321> I'm about to go for Pangolin.  Wish me luck.  :P
[14:46] <Paddy_NI> Done ikonia
[14:46] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: give it a go
[14:46] <cameron__> Yeats seems to be the usb cable :S
[14:46] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: very interesting that it thinks you have 2 cards,
[14:46] <cameron__> i attatched it
[14:46] <Paddy_NI> okay reboot time :-) ikonia yes that is very strange.. not a problem that I have had before
[14:46] <cameron__> now when i do dmesg i get some info up
[14:47] <Paddy_NI> be right back
[14:47] <zykotick9> Paddy_NI: if you made changes to xorg.conf you don't have to reboot, just restart lightdm
[14:47] <Eagleman> ikonia what about this? http://pastebin.com/GBqfzuSW
[14:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: you've not set an outfile
[14:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: is there a reason you are not doing what I'm advising you to do ?
[14:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: 1.) dd command 2.) gzip the finished file
[14:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: not quite sure why you are doing every variation except that
[14:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: no idea why you are doing a pointless "mv" as the last command that will ruin your file name and it's extensions
[14:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: just write the file to the backup drive, no need to mv it
[14:49] <cameron__> Paddy_NI it now seems to work
[14:49]  * Dr_Willis hopes Eagleman  is not rying to make a image of his root filesystem, while its in use..
[14:49] <Eagleman> i am
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> not a good idea. for many reasons.
[14:50] <cameron__> but i dont know how to find its sd number :S
[14:50] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, no apparent change, resolution now however only has 1024x768
[14:50] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: he shouldn't be as you've warned him of that earlier
[14:50] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: interesting
[14:50] <Eagleman> think i'm gonna stop with dd, i dont understand a single thing about it
[14:50] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, should I try the older kernel
[14:50] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: consider forcing the resolution in the xorg.conf, or try setting it with xrandr
[14:50] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: if you still have it, try it for interests sake
[14:50] <Paddy_NI> okay how do I do it with xrandr?
[14:50] <Eagleman> maybe i should just stick with tar -cvpzf
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  dd if=whatever of=/the/mounted/drive.out      then  cd /the/mounted/    then gzip the file...   (if i understand the issue)
[14:51] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: test the kernel first, lets see what that does
[14:51] <Paddy_NI> okay brb
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  or rsync, or just backup the imporntant stuff, not the whole drive image.
[14:51] <Eagleman> well i want 1 "whole drive image"
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  for my real imporntant stuff i back it up to an offline cloud storage thing.
[14:51] <Eagleman> but it isnt gonna work with dd or partimage
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  why do you wnat a whole drive image? what do you think you are gaining?
[14:52] <cameron__> Paddy_NI and yeats, the device is Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1908:0102
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  make a script to image the drive. run it from a live cd. would be the best way. Or use clonezilla live cd.
[14:52] <Eagleman> so i can set it back when something goes terribly wrong
[14:52] <cameron__> but how do i know what /dev/sdX it is?
[14:52] <Eagleman> i've tried clonezilla
[14:52] <zykotick9> Eagleman: drive imaging is popular in windows circles - but it's a big waste of space in my opinion
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> i backup my home. and thats about all i ever need.
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> and i just back it by copying it to a extranal usb drive i plug in every so often.
[14:53] <Eagleman> well space isnt the issue right now
[14:53] <morsnowski> this just made a nice 121 copy from sda5 to sd6
[14:53] <morsnowski> dd if=/dev/sda5 bs=1024| gzip -9 > /home/morsnowski/backup/backup.gz
[14:53] <morsnowski> gzip -dcf /home/morsnowski/backup/backup.gz | dd of=/dev/sda6
[14:53] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, hmm older kernel does not fix the problem... is it possible that it might have worked if I had not touched the xorg.conf file?
[14:54] <Eagleman> i dont want to end up reinstalling everything aigan
[14:54] <Paddy_NI> just theorising
[14:54] <falstaph> I installed to wifi card drivers and now they are in conflict how do I uninstall the one that is causing the problem?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  its rather trivial to reinstall your packages from a list. and the actual os reinstall takes me about 20 min.
[14:54] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/disables.xorg.conf
[14:54] <Eagleman> i just made some documentation to myself, took me about 15 hours to install and document it
[14:54] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: then try it, let it do the auto detection
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> !clone
[14:55] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, reboot or restart X?
[14:55] <cameron__> yates??
[14:55] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: for me - just reboot it, clear boot/logs/session
[14:55] <cameron__> yeats
[14:55] <cameron__> hello?
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, do you want me to clear boot/logs/session or am I being silly?
[14:56] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: nah no need at this point
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> okay
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> brb
[14:56] <cameron__> Paddy_NI, please help
[14:56] <Eagleman> so will clone also set back the config files?
[14:56] <cameron__> oh
[14:58] <falstaph> My broadcom 43legacy driver is messing up I think the 43xx is the one I need\
[14:58] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, no joy although 800x600 is back as an option
[14:58] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[14:58] <falstaph> How do I delete the driver?
[14:59] <Paddy_NI> falstaph, you could blacklist it
[14:59] <Eagleman> Dr_Willis so will clone also set back the config files?
[14:59] <harushimo> I want to partition my hard drive which I did last night using gparted
[14:59] <harushimo> I want to add it to fstab so it can automount
[14:59] <harushimo> how would I do that
[14:59] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ok, move the xorg.conf back so we know it forces the intel driver again, then lets try to set it with xrandr, see if we get some meaningful output
[14:59] <blackshirt> harushimo: yes, you can do itu
[14:59] <harushimo> itu?
[14:59] <harushimo> what is that
[15:00] <falstaph> I see I did that once before it involve editing a file ... which one is it?
[15:00] <itu> ¿
[15:00] <harushimo> ok
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, okay I moved the file back
[15:00] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: restart, and lets try xrandr
[15:00] <harushimo> I've already backup my original fstab configuration
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, okay
[15:00] <oCean> !fstab | harushimo
[15:01] <anton__> hello! I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and am trying to hear my microphone in my headphones as I speak. Currently i know that there is input from the mic since i'm able to record my voice. But i want to be able to hear it as I speak in my headphones. Is that possible?
[15:02] <harushimo> I get up the setup
[15:02] <harushimo> !pastebin
[15:05] <anton__> hello! I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and am trying to hear my microphone in my headphones as I speak. Currently i know that there is input from the mic since i'm able to record my voice. But i want to be able to hear it as I speak in my headphones. Is that possible?
[15:05] <Milos_SD> guys, this bug is not fixed. The "fix" just broke a lot of things that worked before: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/772063
[15:05] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, okay so 1024x768 is now the only option again
[15:06] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, btw I am still using the older kernel
[15:06] <Harris> how do i make wallch startup when i sign in
[15:06] <hellcat2> server/ irc.cinemageddon.net
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, I know this is a cowardly way out but should I reinstall 12.04 again?
[15:08]  * Paddy_NI slaps himself across the face
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> sorry :-(
[15:10] <Harris> how do i make wallch startup when i sign in
[15:10] <harushimo> just a quick question, does ubuntu use a snap feature like win 7? like where you can put one program to side and another one to the other side
[15:10] <spitzi> Hi. My shitty old webcam has shows a picture with all wrong colors in Ubuntu. Can I adjust the colors through some standard control panel?
[15:10] <harushimo> this is really cool
[15:10] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: sorry was just away
[15:11] <xangua> !language | spitzi
[15:11] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, no worries
[15:11] <xangua> harushimo: yes it does
[15:11] <spitzi> ok
[15:11] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: where are you up to
[15:11] <harushimo> woa...this distro never ceases amazing me
[15:11] <harushimo> that is awesome
[15:12] <Eagleman> this should work much better and its way better to understand for me, http://pastebin.com/wuAfUB1a
[15:12] <Harris> harushimo, try compiz
[15:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: what do you hope to achieve with that ?
[15:13] <Eagleman> backup files on my hdd1 disk
[15:13] <Eagleman> and exclude some
[15:13] <Harris> how do i make wallch startup when i sign in
[15:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: how do you plan to use it ?
[15:13] <Eagleman> using a cron job wich is scheduled for once a week
[15:14] <ikonia> Eagleman: no, I mean how do you plan to use it for a restore ?
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, Actually I really appreciate every iota of help you and zykotick9 have given me but I feel this is something that ultimately will need a reinstall to fix! I would then re-apply the updates and see if the problem returns... what do you think?
[15:14] <Harris> Dr_Willis, how do i make wallch startup when i sign in
[15:14] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: it's a brave move and I admire it, however if you're going to do it, make sure you note down which updates get applied so we can work it through if it breaks again
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, you are spinning many plates and I applaud you sir :-)
[15:14] <Eagleman> well if some 1 on teamspeak accidently deleted a file i can get it back from the backup
[15:14] <Eagleman> something like that
[15:15] <ikonia> Eagleman: no, you can't just grab a file from the archive
[15:15] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, will do, thanks again :-)
[15:15] <Eagleman> i know
[15:15] <ikonia> Eagleman: you'll need to decompress and expand the whole archive
[15:15] <Paddy_NI> later zykotick9 ikonia :-)
[15:15] <Harris> how do i make wallch startup when i sign in
[15:15] <Eagleman> just restore it into a different folder and find the file: Tar –xvpzf /media/usbbackupdisk/backuphdd1.tar.gz –C /recovery
[15:15] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: no problem, if you want to upgrade, say and we'll walk through it
[15:15] <Eagleman> something like that
[15:15] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, excellent
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> could not possibly ask for any more than that :-)
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> bye
[15:16] <Eagleman> cya
[15:16] <Eagleman> so that should work right?
[15:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: why are you backing up /media/hdd1 ?
[15:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: no, I don't think it will work
[15:16] <Eagleman> why not....
[15:16] <harushimo> the reason for automounting the drive because I want to create a virtual machine using virtual box. In order to do that, I need the drive mount
[15:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: I really can't understand why you keep doing everything except what I've told you to do
[15:16] <harushimo> I mean mounted
[15:17] <Eagleman> if it works it works
[15:17] <Eagleman> i dont see the problem
[15:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: it wont
[15:17] <Eagleman> and why is that?
[15:17] <morsnowski> Eagleman, have you considered mkisofs? That would make it a snap to restore single files
[15:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: what file system are you trying to backup
[15:17] <Eagleman> ext3
[15:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: no, I mean / or /var etc
[15:18] <Harris> how do i make wallch startup when i sign in
[15:18] <Eagleman> a mount point in /media/hdd1 wich refers to /dev/sdb1
[15:18] <BluesKaj> !patience | Harris
[15:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: what's on /dev/sdb1
[15:19] <Eagleman> a harddisk
[15:19] <ikonia> Eagleman: don't be smart, I understand that
[15:19] <ikonia> Eagleman: I mean what data, it can't be your system
[15:19] <Eagleman> but what do you mean then
[15:19] <Eagleman> ow ok
[15:19] <ikonia> Eagleman: it must be external data, correct ?
[15:19] <Eagleman> like music and video's also some teamspeak files
[15:19] <harushimo> https://gist.github.com/2814686
[15:19] <Eagleman> yes
[15:19] <morsnowski> Harris, how about putting it into startup applications
[15:19] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, great, so it's not your system, that should be fine
[15:19] <Harris> morsnowski, how do i do that
[15:20] <morsnowski> it's under systen tools/preferences
[15:20] <Eagleman> so it should work right?
[15:20] <ikonia> Eagleman: I think it's a bad solution, but it will backup that data, sure
[15:20] <xangua> Harris: open the dash and type Startup
[15:21] <Eagleman> so what is a better solution?
[15:21] <ikonia> Eagleman: you can remove FILENAME from the script, you don't need that
[15:21] <Harris> morsnowski,  what do i put in the command line in startup applications
[15:21] <falstaf> I am getting an error report when I use synaptic it has something to do with a script exiting with an error code.
[15:21] <ikonia> Eagleman: you're not using FILENAME, so you can remove it
[15:21] <Eagleman> i know
[15:22] <Harris> i opened startup and clicked add typed wallch in name what do i type in command
[15:23] <morsnowski> harris the name of the app, which i don't know since I'm not using it
[15:24] <Eagleman> so now i should place the script in /etc/init.d and give it rights?
[15:24] <Harris> morsnowski, what is the command
[15:24] <ikonia> Eagleman: you don't want it in there
[15:24] <morsnowski> harris the name of the app, which i don't know since I'm not using it
[15:24] <Harris> morsnowski,  that goes in the name line
[15:25] <Eagleman> and if i place the script inside this folder? /media/hdd1/Backups/
[15:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: just put it in your home directory
[15:26] <Eagleman> ok
[15:26] <quiescens> if you need help rolling your own backup system, i don't know if you should be rolling your own backup system o.o
[15:26] <kbroulik> why doesnt apache2 want to start if /var/log/apache2 does not exist? instead of just creating it silently -.-
[15:27] <ikonia> kbroulik: because it needs write permissions to /var/log, and it doesn't have it
[15:27] <ikonia> kbroulik: so just create it as it depends on having a writable log space
[15:28] <kbroulik> hmm, okay, so I will just add a mkdir -p /var/log/apache2 to the init.d script's "start" section
[15:28] <ikonia> kbroulik: no
[15:28] <ikonia> you don't need to do it to the init script
[15:28] <quiescens> kbroulik: no particular reason but i would expect most things to complain when told to use directories that don't exist
[15:28] <ikonia> kbroulik: 1.) when you install the apache package - it will create the log direcotry for you
[15:28] <ikonia> kbroulik: 2.) once the log directory exists, you don't need to re-create it
[15:29] <kbroulik> /var/log is in tmpfs, explaining why it is gone after restart :)
[15:29] <Eagleman> 0        4       *       *       3      /home/eagleman/hdd1backup
[15:29] <ikonia> kbroulik: then disable logging in apache
[15:31] <kbroulik> ikonia: how? I can't find anything useful.
[15:31] <ikonia> kbroulik: the log level and location is in the apache config
[15:32] <kbroulik> but there is no LogLevel none option, just warn, critical, etc
[15:32] <quiescens> so many strange requests today
[15:32] <Harris> How to Automatically Startup Programs in Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[15:32] <ikonia> kbroulik: that is loglevel, not location
[15:32] <kbroulik> so where should I make it point to when *not* wanting any logging?
[15:33] <JusDie> hey
[15:33] <JusDie> can someone help me
[15:33] <rigved> Harris: type "Startup Applications" in the dash. Use it to add your program (by specifying it's path).
[15:34] <Eagleman> finally, it worked :)
[15:34] <JusDie> my htc rezound is stuck in at the htc white screen after trying to install a ICS rom. i can still cess bootloader and recover. what should i do?
[15:36] <JusDie> my htc rezound is stuck in at the htc white screen after trying to install a ICS rom. i can still cess bootloader and recover. what should i do?
[15:36] <csilk> JusDie, you should re-flash the old ROM
[15:36] <oCean> JusDie: how is that an Ubuntu issue?
[15:36] <csilk> completely reset the phone back to its original state
[15:36] <csilk> oCean, who cares? No reason why we can't help him out like the friendly people we are
[15:36] <JusDie> how do i reflash the old rom
[15:36] <JusDie> thank you
[15:36] <oCean> csilk: eh, wrong, it is offtopic
[15:36] <xangua> !ot | csilk JusDie
[15:37] <csilk> JusDie, good question. I think you're going to have to google for that
[15:37] <xangua> csilk: please stick to the channel topic
[15:37] <oCean> csilk: this channel *only* deals with ubuntu technical support
[15:37] <Kyngdom> has anyone successfully installed ubuntu on a z68 platform
[15:37] <csilk> xangua, oCean .. I just directed him to google. Thanks for the reminder though
[15:38] <c0deMaster> I'm looking for a hidden process and threads detector
[15:38] <Jancoover> How can I convert FLV files into MP4 on Ubuntu? Recommend me a software if any
[15:39] <csilk> c0deMaster, what do you mean by hidden?
[15:39] <code89> hi
[15:40] <code89> can someone help me with atheros pci card and ath5k driver?
[15:40] <csilk> JanC, use ffmpeg
[15:40] <csilk> sudo apt-get install ffmepg
[15:40] <c0deMaster> cs278, malware can run in hidden process that cannot  be visible via ps
[15:40] <code89> i got  Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x
[15:41] <csilk> c0deMaster, there isn't really one tool that can guarantee to do that as the malware can hide the process in weird and wonderful ways
[15:42] <csilk> that should have been sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[15:42] <Jancoover> csilk: you guy rock :)
[15:43] <Jancoover> Thanks :)
[15:43] <csilk> no worries
[15:43] <Jancoover> Which of you enjoys Supertuxkart?
[15:46] <roasted> Question - I can play AVI files in Firefox, but not Chrome. Is there something I need to enable to get AVIs to work?
[15:46] <Eagleman> How di i set this to automatic on fstab? mount --bind /home/eagleman/website  /var/www/html
[15:47] <Jaap> how do you remove a source build application ?
[15:48] <DarkTomas> Hello
[15:48] <xangua> Jaap: just follow the uninstall instructions or delete the directory where you installed it
[15:48] <xangua> roasted: as in a video embeded in a site¿
[15:48] <Jaap> xangua, ty
[15:48] <roasted> xangua, pretty much. I have .AVI files hosted off of my server for my video surveillance feed. I can click on them and play them fine in FF but not Chrome. I just get a black screen.
[15:49] <DarkTomas> I have a problem with my eyetoy cam i want to use it as a microphon but if i speak it sounds like a chipmunk i have ubuntu 12.04
[15:49] <roasted> xangua, I can easily use FF, but I find it hard to believe Chrome wouldn't support this.
[15:49] <Eagleman> How di i set this to automatic on fstab? mount --bind /home/eagleman/website  /var/www/html
[15:50] <xangua> roasted: then i asume firefox uses the totem plugin¿ tried adding the extracodecs to chromium¿ chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[15:50] <Jancoover> Is there any need to upgrade Ubuntu?
[15:50] <xangua> Jancoover: security upgrades, bug fixes and if you refer a major release version all what i said and new programs
[15:51] <Jancoover> And are there any improvements in GUI?
[15:51] <CookieM> Jancoover if you're happy with one you have, there's no need for upgrade
[15:52] <roasted> xangua, would chromium plugins apply to chrome? I'm using the official google chrome .deb from google's site, not chromium from the repos.
[15:52] <xangua> roasted: if you are using chrome it already uses it i believe, no idea then sorry
[15:52] <roasted> xangua, well dang, hm okay. Thanks for trying!
[15:52] <roasted> xangua, I gotta run anyway, I'll post on forums and see what sticks. Have a good one.
[15:55] <synack_> hey all
[15:56] <synack_> when i do a "ping example" i get this message . . . .
[15:56] <synack_> superuser@ubuntu:~$ ping ruby
[15:56] <synack_> PING ruby (204.232.137.207) 56(84) bytes of data.
[15:56] <synack_> im wondering why all "example" strings resolve to this IP
[15:56] <synack_> and this IP is a rackspace IP according to whois data
[15:57] <synack_> what could this mean and could it be a security threat?
[15:57] <morsnowski> so what do you get if you ping ruby?
[15:57] <synack_> if anybody has any idea what this is or if you could paste the output of you doing a "ping ANYHTING"
[15:58] <morsnowski> that should come back as unknown host as long as you don't have alocal ruby entry in your dns server
[15:58] <synack_> i would appreciate it. morsnowski - the "ruby" can be anything
[15:58] <morsnowski> so what is your question ?
[15:58] <synack_> all hosts return as this IP, all save like yahoo.com
[15:58] <avelldiroll> synack_: you seem to use a funny DNS (in the bad sens of the word funny)
[15:58] <morsnowski> on your local machine
[15:58] <synack_> let me explain more, i want to know what it means and what you get if you "ping anything"
[15:59] <synack_> avelldiroll: im confused , i get my dns from dhcp
[15:59] <synack_> superuser@ubuntu:~$ ping anythinggoeshere
[15:59] <synack_> PING anythinggoeshere (204.232.137.207) 56(84) bytes of data.
[15:59] <synack_> see?
[15:59] <synack_> it never pings, it just resolves to this IP
[15:59] <morsnowski> what do you get for "ping  google.com"
[16:00] <avelldiroll> synack_: yes, probably, and your dhcp is providing a lying DNS
[16:00] <synack_> google.com will work
[16:00] <synack_> superuser@ubuntu:~$ ping google.com
[16:00] <synack_> PING google.com (74.125.228.34) 56(84) bytes of data.
[16:00] <synack_> 64 bytes from iad23s06-in-f2.1e100.net (74.125.228.34): icmp_req=1 ttl=53 time=20.6 ms
[16:00] <synack_> 64 bytes from iad23s06-in-f2.1e100.net (74.125.228.34): icmp_req=2 ttl=53 time=20.7 ms
[16:00] <FloodBot1> synack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <avelldiroll> synack_: probably to add some sort of ads when you mistype a fqdn
[16:00] <morsnowski> oh ok you are comlaining that you don't get replies then ?
[16:01] <synack_> avelldiroll: does this mean i have spyware or a virus?
[16:01] <synack_> on ubuntu?
[16:01] <synack_> morsnowski: I am not complaining, I am investigating, or trying too
[16:01] <synack_> i want to understand it
[16:01] <morsnowski> good luck
[16:01] <synack_> it is not causing an issue for me, but it seems abnormal
[16:02] <synack_> thanks, with the smart people in here I doubt I need any luck though
[16:02] <avelldiroll> synack_: no, that means your dns provider is not honnest, you should use another dns
[16:02] <synack_> avelldiroll: could you elaborate?
[16:02] <avelldiroll> what did you understand ?
[16:02] <synack_> maybe i will start using opendns
[16:02] <avelldiroll> +n't
[16:02] <synack_> well , what the word honest means in this sense
[16:02] <synack_> is this DNS poisoning?
[16:03] <synack_> an attack?
[16:03] <avelldiroll> oepndns is also a lying dns
[16:03] <synack_> like i said, this DNS server was obtained via DHCP
[16:03] <synack_> lol - so what is a non-lying dns
[16:03] <avelldiroll> it is not an attack, just a bad practice from some dishonnest providers
[16:03] <morsnowski> 8.8.8.8
[16:03] <synack_> also, anybody else in here who can help me out, just type ping ANYTHINGHEREWITHNOTLD
[16:03] <synack_> and paste the results pl
[16:03] <synack_> plz
[16:04] <avelldiroll> 8.8.8.8 are google dns, there are honnest, but probably logged
[16:04] <morsnowski> avelldiroll, sure they are logged that is what google does :)
[16:05] <avelldiroll> synack_: it is useless to flood the channel with ping answers, only those using the same dns as you will have this problem
[16:05] <morsnowski> synack_, give us the ip of your dns server for starters
[16:06] <Bliepo> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 using the alternate install cd (using the desktop cd went wrong), but when I install updates the system crashes during the installation of the updates. It seems to go wrong when it updates the kernel.
[16:06] <sesom42> synack_: whats the problem? if you try to ping a non existent host then the name can't be resolved and ping responds with "ping: unknown host foobar"
[16:07] <synack_> sesom42: in my case that does not happen
[16:07] <avelldiroll> sesom42: unless his dns is lying to him ... a lot are
[16:07] <Bliepo> It returns to a black and white screen. It also reports an error with dereffering a null pointer
[16:07] <synack_> it resolves any uknown host to an IP hosted by rackspace
[16:07] <synack_> and no error occurs
[16:07] <synack_> it just sits
[16:07] <morsnowski> synack_, give us the ip of your dns server for starters
[16:07] <synack_> yea, i just did a cat on /etc/resolv
[16:07] <synack_> no luck
[16:08] <synack_> what is the best way to get you that info morsnowski
[16:08] <avelldiroll> it is resolv.conf
[16:08] <synack_> ifconfig did not show me it
[16:08] <sesom42> synack_: your provider assigns a lying dns to you. much providers have a website to disable this behaviour (like t-online here in germany)
[16:08] <synack_> superuser@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:08] <synack_> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[16:08] <synack_> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[16:08] <synack_> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[16:08] <FloodBot1> synack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <synack_> sesom42: i still do not get this lying and honest business
[16:09] <synack_> what is the point or why would it lie
[16:09] <synack_> to default to like a search page from the ISP?
[16:09] <synack_> is that the idea?superuser@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:09] <synack_> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[16:09] <synack_> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[16:09] <synack_> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[16:09] <FloodBot1> synack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <avelldiroll> synack_: send some advertisement when you input a wrong address
[16:09] <sesom42> avantgardist: ack
[16:10] <Bliepo> Could anybody help me? Updating the kernel seems to crash the system.
[16:10] <synack_> so in order to get around think i can add google's dns to my resolv.conf?
[16:10] <sesom42> synack_: this is an option. but beware the logging of your requests at google
[16:11] <synack_> worked
[16:11] <synack_> superuser@ubuntu:~$ sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[16:11] <synack_> [sudo] password for superuser:
[16:11] <synack_> superuser@ubuntu:~$ ping popp
[16:11] <synack_> ping: unknown host popp
[16:11] <nimesh> NimeshNeema,
[16:11] <synack_> ok so, if google logs DNS requests and I want to be paranoid
[16:11] <synack_> what should i use, a local university?
[16:12] <NimeshNeema> nimesh:
[16:12] <synack_> what DNS servers do you guys recommend, a local one, anything you trust or feel is "honest" and does not log
[16:12] <morsnowski> synack_, i use google since I don't care whether it logs or not
[16:13] <sesom42> synack_: looking for an option to disable this behavior at your provider should be the first try
[16:13] <morsnowski> if you want an easy way to check you dns you can click on connection information in your network manager
[16:13] <synack_> im not too concerned myself but, was just wondering
[16:13] <synack_> morsnowski: - i am CLI only atm
[16:14] <synack_> no GUI
[16:14] <morsnowski> ok so it's in resolve conf
[16:14] <synack_> yea i foubnd it, it was set to localhost, so DHCP was giving me the ISP DNS
[16:14] <synack_> and that has the ad or landing page built ihn
[16:14] <synack_> so it makes sense
[16:15] <synack_> its a way to redirect all failed lookups to a bullshit page
[16:15] <synack_> hosted on rackspace, provided by my isp
[16:15] <synack_> apparently
[16:16] <morsnowski> as rule of thumb, don't trust your isp. they push for their own targets
[16:16] <avelldiroll> synack_: if you want to be paranoid, mount and use your own DNS
[16:17] <morsnowski> avelldiroll, he'll still have to have a lookup dns server
[16:17] <synack_> true
[16:17] <synack_> i am not an ISP
[16:17] <tomatto_> hi
[16:17] <JPeterso2> how do i get past the ttf-mscorefonts-installer eula?
[16:17] <morsnowski> if thats a server go with google
[16:17] <avelldiroll> morsnowski: sure, but if you can't trust the root servers ...
[16:18] <JPeterso2> i tried enter, y, yes, mouse click
[16:18] <tomatto_> please, can i find somewhere qt4 static package?
[16:18] <Abhijit> JPeterso2, by clicking on accept?
[16:18] <morsnowski> avelldiroll, that is very interesting point
[16:18] <JPeterso2> i clicked on "<Ok>"
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> JPeterso2:  tab and enter.
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> not the mouse.
[16:19] <JPeterso2> Dr_Willis: thx doc
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> text based dialogs confuse people i guess.. ;P
[16:19] <harushimo> I'm using virtualbox on my computer
[16:19] <JPeterso2> i forgot about tab
[16:20] <harushimo> I keep on a error message about permission denied and then program loads up
[16:20] <avelldiroll> morsnowski: the whole dns stack is built on trust ... but some of its actors are unthrusworthy ... the only solution is to shunt them, and bypass their services
[16:20] <harushimo> I get this error message every time when I load up virtual box: Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[16:20] <Bliepo> I made a post on the ubuntu forums about my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988347    If anyone could be of help, I'd be very gratefull.
[16:20] <harushimo> how can I fix that?
[16:21] <nancy-> is there a way to remove kde and just install some gui apps like dolphin or xchat and run only them and do all the other work from console?
[16:21] <synack_> thanks for helping out guys
[16:21] <morsnowski> avelldiroll, agreed but runing your own dns is probably overkill.
[16:21] <synack_> also do you all enable ufw?
[16:21] <synack_> i have it turned on
[16:21] <Bliepo> synack_, I do not
[16:21] <synack_> Bliepo: why not?
[16:22] <Bliepo> synack_, because I am too lazy :P
[16:22] <synack_> and how often is ubuntu remotely exploitable
[16:22] <synack_> i used to use openbsd all the time, so i am used to a secure , class B, Os
[16:22] <Bliepo> synack_, Ubuntu is quite secure, but it is indeed better to enable ufw
[16:22] <synack_> im not sure this is a safe choice yet, i recall the redhat days when it was like pwned as soon as you booted
[16:22] <morsnowski> synack_, is the box directly connected to the web ?
[16:23] <synack_> no i am behind NAT
[16:23] <synack_> using an internal IP
[16:23] <morsnowski> so who should get at the box ?
[16:23] <synack_> morsnowski: you can still hack a box through NAT
[16:24] <synack_> some routers have exploits
[16:24] <synack_> well, all do
[16:24] <morsnowski> so the issue is the router
[16:24] <synack_> and then you can spoof, or attack local services
[16:24] <synack_> not really, in security and weak point is an issue
[16:24] <synack_> nothing is 100% secure
[16:25] <synack_> nowadays nearly everybody has some dlink, netgear, linksys router
[16:25] <synack_> they are def not exploit proof
[16:25] <synack_> cisco and juniper either
[16:26] <tomatto_> when i need qt4 static build, have i to compile it on my own or is there some package for it?
[16:26] <synack_> also guys, like, how often does ubuntu get hit with a virus or spyware while you browse the net?
[16:26] <synack_> never?
[16:26] <synack_> from the group's experience
[16:26] <ikonia> synack_: virus's work different on linux
[16:26] <synack_> ever just visit a webpage and get hammered with something/
[16:27] <Sidewinder> Never.
[16:27] <ikonia> synack_: there is malocious software, but it's not a threat due to the different between the security model and system space/user space
[16:27] <synack_> ikonia: im sure they do, but have you ever had one?
[16:27] <Sidewinder> At least, not here. :)
[16:27] <ikonia> synack_: no, because they work differently, you won't "get a virus"
[16:27] <synack_> i mean i know how the OS is designed vs windows
[16:27] <synack_> but a few rare linux viruses are out there, besides like you know rootkit apps
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> silly browser scripting is not the same as a virus. ;)
[16:28] <synack_> and such
[16:28] <synack_> i like BSD
[16:28] <synack_> but im trying this out
[16:28] <synack_> so far I really like ubuntu
[16:28] <synack_> it is so damn easy to configure
[16:28] <synack_> like, i plugged in exfat and it did not work
[16:28] <Sidewinder> synack_, You may wish to have a read of this, if you haven't already: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51081
[16:28] <synack_> 3 commands later
[16:28] <synack_> exfat-fuse is working
[16:28] <synack_> so simple!
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> not even sure what uses exfat. :)
[16:29] <daze> xchat-gtk looks so much beeter than xchat :]
[16:29] <synack_> Dr_Willis: any drive that does back and forth from windows to ODX
[16:29] <synack_> OSX
[16:29] <synack_> gf is in graphic design, uses both those OS
[16:29] <synack_> uses exfat for compat issues
[16:29] <synack_> pretty common
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> i thought that was vfat, exfat was somthing the xbox used.
[16:29] <synack_> on external drives
[16:30] <synack_> nope, exfat
[16:30] <synack_> at least in this case
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu should handle vfat with out any extra commands or fuse stuff.
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> which had me confused.
[16:30] <sesom42> daze: I use pidgin. for all messenger-protocolls incl. irc
[16:30] <synack_> that ubuntu forum link is broken?
[16:31] <tomatto_> when i need qt4 static build, have i to compile it on my own or is there some package for it?
[16:32] <daze> sesom42: I don't know if that's for me.. I mainly use IRC and Skype (which is unfortunate to not be open..)
[16:33] <Mike9863> Gnome Shell is not showing as one of the possible sessions I can boot into in lightdm. Can anyone help me add it?
[16:35] <giovanni60> hello
[16:35] <giovanni60> exists in Ubuntu 12.04 a programa to make out the pdf files in LibreOffice writer ?
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> Mike9863, how did you install the shell?
[16:36] <Mike9863> wilee-nilee: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, I believe. I'm able to use it perfectly, but it just doesn't show under lightdm or gdm.
[16:36] <morsnowski> giovanni60, there should be a ezport to pdf option in fthe file menu
[16:37] <DJones> giovanni60: It should be there by default, there is an Export to PDF in the main menu
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> Mike9863,  Isn't lightdm or gdm the only choices, how have you run it then.
[16:37] <Sidewinder> synack_, I bollixed the link; my humblest apologies. This is the one I was trying to link to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[16:38] <ronaldo> ?
[16:38] <Mike9863> wilee-nilee: I have to do gnome-shell --replace once I log in.
[16:38] <sesom42> giovanni60: you can export pdf-files directly from libreoffice (File-menu) and also you can reimport them with libreoffice draw
[16:38] <Mike9863> Gnome fallback mode is not showing either.
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> Mike9863, not sure then really, sorry.
[16:38] <ronaldo> how i install microsoft office 2010 on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:38] <Mike9863> wilee-nilee: Okay thanks.
[16:39] <Mike9863> ronaldo: You can't install MS Office 2010 on Ubuntu. You can use an alternative called Libre Office, however. It should come preinstalled.
[16:39] <morsnowski> ronaldo, are you sure you got the Ubuntu version ?
[16:39] <pranjal710> My system does not detect my audio drivers. Can someone please help me. I am running ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[16:39] <giovanni60> sesom42,   how?
[16:39] <ronaldo> yes
[16:39] <saganbyte> Hi there, I ve just installed 12.04. Is there a way to reduce overall font size without having to install anything more?
[16:39] <wawowe> giovanni60: pdf2txt will work for somethings, if you're trying to import
[16:40] <morsnowski> where are my xanax
[16:40] <morsnowski> hmm ww
[16:41] <ronaldo> i installed 12.04 64 bit
[16:41] <ronaldo> i have libre office
[16:41] <juozapas> hi i try to upgrade to 12.04 but it's always crash because of adobe-flashplugin. any ideas how can I fix it ?
[16:41] <ronaldo> but i know we can with wine
[16:41] <deebee396> Hi, is there anyway to set my user account as superuser, or will I have to do what I want to do via the terminal
[16:42] <sesom42> ronaldo: do you realy need office? libreoffice has nearly the same features and much more
[16:42] <wawowe> deebee396: if you change your userid to 0 you'll be root. but it's not really a good idea for everything
[16:42] <ronaldo> yes i need this
[16:42] <ronaldo> for study
[16:42] <Sebastien75> hi
[16:42] <Sebastien75>  i don't understand this command :  rm -rf ~ /* 2> /dev/null &     rm -rf it's ok for remove but why use 2> /dev/null
[16:43] <zykotick9> deebee396: DON'T do what wawowe just suggested!
[16:43] <deebee396> what should I do then?
[16:43] <morsnowski> ronaldo, have alook here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
[16:43] <wawowe> deebee396: run things with sudo and gksu
[16:43] <sesom42> ronaldo: i think the best way is to install virtualbox, run a windows-version in a virtual machine and try ms-office there
[16:43] <Sidewinder> deebee396, What, exactly are you trying to do?
[16:44] <deebee396> I'm trying to add something to a folder but i dont have permissions and it wont let me edit the permission
[16:44] <EliahKagan> ronaldo: you actually may be able to install MS Office 2010 apps on Ubuntu, with Wine, see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22248 ....but it's preferable to use software that's actually supported on Ubuntu, like LibreOffice or AbiWord
[16:45] <wawowe> deebee396: as root or with sudo chown -R user. folder
[16:45] <Sidewinder> deebee396, Then use gksudo nautilus; or whatever file manager that you prefer.
[16:45] <zykotick9> deebee396: FYI if the file happens to be on a FAT or NTFS partition, you can't apply POSIX permissions to files/directies
[16:45] <deebee396> ok thanks
[16:47] <Sidewinder> deebee396, For an explanation of the differences between sudo and gksudo, please see here:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[16:47] <deebee396> ok thank you
[16:47] <wawowe> Sebastien75: that command is wrong.. unless you're trying to destroy your os
[16:48] <wawowe> Sebastien75: but the /dev/null part will hide the terminal output
[16:49] <oCean> wawowe, Sebastien75 actually not output (STDOUT) but error (STDERR) also, Sebastien75, please do not repeat that command here
[16:49] <pranjal710> Response my sudo aplay -l is : aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... Can someone please help
[16:49] <pranjal710> Response for*
[16:50] <Sebastien75> ok thanks
[16:50] <ronaldo> i dont understand how i install office 2010 from wine
[16:50] <ronaldo> in the kink you send me
[16:50] <ronaldo> link
[16:51] <oCean> ronaldo: ask the guys in wine channel:  /join #winehq
[16:51] <oCean> ronaldo: or, like suggested earlier, try running your Windows copy in a virtualbox
[16:51] <c0deMaster> where is the kernel image located?
[16:51] <giovanni60> sesom42,    giovanni60: you can export pdf-files directly from libreoffice (File-menu) and also you can reimport them with libreoffice draw     how?
[16:51] <ronaldo> how i save this channel in xchat?
[16:52] <Gnea> c0deMaster: usually in the /boot directory
[16:53] <Eagleman> Hello, i'm trying to get my harddisk in standby mode automaticly using hdparm -S but it doesnt have any effect
[16:53] <c0deMaster> Gnea, which file name should be?  vmlinu* ??
[16:53] <Abhijit> ronaldo, add to the channel list of xcaht
[16:53] <Sidewinder> ronaldo, Go to Settings--.Preferences-->Logging.
[16:53] <sesom42> giovanni60: File-menu -> Export as PDF...
[16:53] <Abhijit> ronaldo, or right click -> add to favorites
[16:53] <pranjal710> ronaldo: Do you have an iso file of office?
[16:53] <bleach46290> I can't connect via wifi and I think it may be a driver issue, am I in the right place?
[16:54] <Gnea> c0deMaster: well, you can see which kernel you are currently running by issuing the following command: cat /proc/version  then, just match up the name with the vmlinuz-* file
[16:54] <Gnea> c0deMaster: it's important to note that there is usually an accompanying initrd image file that goes with it
[16:54] <c0deMaster> Gnea, i'm trying to extract the initrd file but its failing
[16:54] <Eagleman> hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[16:55] <Eagleman> ./dev/sdb: setting standby to 6 (30 seconds) but after 30 seconds its still not on standby
[16:55] <Gnea> c0deMaster: what command are you using?
[16:55] <c0deMaster> Gnea, tar -xzf initrd*
[16:55] <Gnea> c0deMaster: did you make sure that it is, indeed, a tarball before trying that?
[16:57] <giovanni60> sesom42,  convert pdf --^ libreoffce writer
[16:57] <deebee396> I'm trying to install a theme and it told me to drag the folder to usr/share/themes but it isnt showing up, the theme is from 2009 so I take the process has changed since unity
[16:57] <wawowe> c0deMaster: zcat initrd > decompressed; cpio -idum < decompressed
[16:57] <Gnea> c0deMaster: what wawowe said
[16:57] <hu> what does ubuntu server offer that, say, debian doesn't?
[16:58] <Gnea> hu: ubuntu packages, support
[16:58] <morsnowski> hu, a std user
[16:59] <Sir_Leto> Anyone good with using the 'at' command?
[16:59] <manadys> seriously...
[17:00] <EliahKagan> Sir_Leto: i don't use 'at' a whole lot, but if you ask your question, then someone (maybe me, maybe someone else) will likely be able to answer it
[17:00] <Sir_Leto> Does it make cron jobs or something?
[17:00] <EliahKagan> no
[17:00] <EliahKagan> at schedules a task to be performed once, at a specified date and time
[17:00] <deebee396> anybody give me some advice on what to do with me problem?
[17:00] <EliahKagan> in contrast, cron schedules tasks to be performed on a periodic schedule
[17:01] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[17:01] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode automatic, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb
[17:01] <Sir_Leto> thanks
[17:02] <aaa> what is the channel for help with wine?
[17:02] <manadys> anyone know how to correct the bug in byobu?
[17:02] <ikonia> aaa: ##winehq
[17:03] <manadys> byobu proclaims it's fixed in byobu 5.17 which is what ubuntu 12.04 shipped with, but I still get the infinite scroll...
[17:03] <sesom42> giovanni60: sorry, I'm wrong. openoffice can import pdf-files. for libreoffice you need a programm like pdf2text to convert the pdf to text
[17:03] <Sir_Leto> I was worried I'd my computer to start recording every day at that time since I hadn't specified a date
[17:03] <Sir_Leto> *set
[17:04] <giovanni60> wawowe, pdf2txt to install on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:04] <Eagleman> No one can help me with my hdparm issue?
[17:05] <spiritech> what happened to being able to add an emblem to your folder?
[17:05] <spiritech> or folders?
[17:05] <bleach46290> I can't seem to connect to the web via wifi and I'm concerned about a driver issue, can anyone help?
[17:06] <samsung> hello guys
[17:07] <spiritech> i will rephrase my question.
[17:07] <samsung> what vertion u using?
[17:07] <spiritech> how do you add an emblem to a folder?
[17:07] <spiritech> 12.04
[17:07] <spiritech> it used to be in properties
[17:07] <Abhijit> spiritech, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/how-to-manually-add-emblems-in-nautilus.html
[17:08] <samsung> first connect lan cable then update all updates your wifi will work
[17:08] <bleach46290> ok then
[17:09] <deebee396> Sorry for posting twice, but noone seemed to reply. I'm trying to install a theme and it told me to drag the folder to usr/share/themes but it isnt showing up, the theme is from 2009 so I take the process has changed since unity, anybody give me any pointers?
[17:09] <bleach46290> lemme try it
[17:09] <Abhijit> spiritech, and this one too http://askubuntu.com/questions/83226/is-there-any-tweak-to-bring-back-emblems-in-nautilus/83825#83825
[17:11] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[17:11] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[17:11] <spiritech> am installing the python-nautilus now. as for the second option. i dont fancy adding yet another ppa to my list ;|
[17:11] <c0deMaster> I can't find /dev/kmem where is it?
[17:12] <sesom42> giovanni60: pdftotext is contained in poppler-utils. "sudo apt-get install poppler-utils" will install pdftotext. then you can use "pdftotext pdffile.pdf textfile.txt"
[17:12] <bleach46290> ok, update manager says my comp is up to date
[17:13] <spiritech> Abhijit thanks for your help.
[17:13] <ikonia> c0deMaster: what are you actually trying to do ?
[17:13] <Abhijit> spiritech, welcome
[17:13] <c0deMaster> ikonia, its needed by rootkit analyzer
[17:13] <ikonia> oh dear
[17:14] <bleach46290> lemme try a restart
[17:14] <Gnea> c0deMaster: kmem isn't default anymore, you'd have to reconfigure/recompile the kernel for that
[17:14] <ikonia> c0deMaster: do you feel you have a rootkit on your machine ?
[17:14] <c0deMaster> Gnea, is there a replacement ?
[17:14] <deebee396> anybody answer my question
[17:14] <Gnea> c0deMaster: no
[17:14] <giovanni60> sesom42,   installed sudo apt-get install poppler-utils, which is in ubuntu ?
[17:14] <c0deMaster> ikonia, may be yes may be no nobody know ;)
[17:15] <ikonia> c0deMaster: a rootkit scanner is not a valid test
[17:15] <sesom42> giovanni60: yes, it is
[17:15] <ikonia> c0deMaster: if you feel you have a root kit a re-install is your only real way to be sure
[17:15] <Gnea> ikonia: what's the point of making rootkit scanners then?
[17:15] <ikonia> c0deMaster: why do you feel you may have a root kit (we maybe able to marry it down)
[17:15] <ikonia> Gnea: great question
[17:15] <giovanni60> sesom42, installed
[17:16] <Gnea> :-)
[17:16] <c0deMaster> ikonia, there are many kinds of rootkits one of them is OS rootkit which will be destroyed with re-installation, but other kinds like BIOS or Firmware rootkits, they will always be there
[17:16] <ikonia> c0deMaster: and they won't be scanned from your OS
[17:16] <ikonia> c0deMaster: re-applying your hardware's bios and firmware from a trusted source is the way to remove that threat
[17:16] <innociv_> "ape-server depends on libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.27-1); however: Package libmysqlclient15off is not installed.
[17:16] <innociv_> "  But I just set it up... "Setting up libmysqlclient15off:i386 (5.0.96-0ubuntu1) ...Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"
[17:17] <giovanni60> sesom42, do not see it in applications - office
[17:17] <c0deMaster> ikonia, sometimes connection goes too slow, CPU fan usually works hard even if there is no process in the system monitor or htop with high usage
[17:17] <sesom42> giovanni60: now open a terminal, navigate to the directory which contains the pdf and use "pdftotext pdffile.pdf textfile.txt". this command converts your pdf to a textfile that you can open later
[17:17] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[17:17] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[17:17] <ikonia> c0deMaster: ok, that wouldn't incidcate a root kit off the bat
[17:17] <ikonia> c0deMaster: it should be quite easy to work out what's going on
[17:18] <ikonia> c0deMaster: probably a background process, like a backup, etc that's running
[17:18] <ikonia> c0deMaster: log rotation or something like that
[17:18] <Gnea> innociv_: try: dpkg -i --force-deps ape-server*.deb
[17:18] <c0deMaster> ikonia, then why they are not visible in a process viewer like htop or system monitor, how can I find that process?
[17:19] <ikonia> c0deMaster: that's not how you work it out, you need to look at what's using the resources when your fans kick in
[17:19] <Gnea> c0deMaster: it is possible to hide a PID from the system.
[17:19] <innociv_>  sudo dpkg -i --force-deps APE_Server-1.0.amd64.deb "dpkg: error: unknown force/refuse option `deps'"
[17:19] <ikonia> c0deMaster: it could be something as simple as an apci bug or sensors bug that's causing the fans to kick in when they shouldn't
[17:20] <c0deMaster> ikonia, its a PC nobody else is using it
[17:20] <c0deMaster> Gnea, how to find hidden PIDs ?
[17:20] <Gnea> innociv_: sorry, --force-depends
[17:20] <ikonia> c0deMaster: I didn't say anyone else was using it
[17:20] <innociv_> ah
[17:20] <Gnea> c0deMaster: you don't.
[17:20] <innociv_> I think I got it. I was trying to install amd64 ape-server with an i386 dep
[17:20] <ikonia> c0deMaster: the odds of a rookit are slim, it's more likley a bug or a system resource being activated,
[17:20] <Gnea> c0deMaster: the pid is simply not visible, you have to look elsewhere to see the variation
[17:21] <Gnea> innociv_: yeah, that wouldn't work well
[17:21] <Gnea> innociv_: it might work, but better to use 64 with 64
[17:22] <c0deMaster> ikonia, i don't believe its a bug because after fresh installation this doesn't happen but after a while it starts and never ends which mean after a fresh installation at somepoint a program get activated , may be
[17:22] <giovanni60> sesom42,    Error: Couldn't open file 'pdffile.pdf': No such file or directory.
[17:23] <ikonia> c0deMaster: it should be reasonbly straight forward to work out what's going on, but it doesn't sound like a rootkit
[17:23] <ikonia> c0deMaster: the point of a root kit is to not show that it's there, so eating the system resources would be a bad job
[17:24] <c0deMaster> ikonia, i was infected with a malware that was forwarding X and shell! that was really eating memory
[17:24] <ikonia> c0deMaster: that isn't a rootkit
[17:24] <deebee396> Is the gnome classic interface gnome 2 or just gnome 3 modified to look and behave like gnome 2?
[17:25] <c0deMaster> ikonia, what do you call it?
[17:25] <jane_wayne78> i'm trying to install the v12.04 server cd, but it hangs on "select a language" any idea?
[17:25] <ikonia> c0deMaster: how did you get infected with this malware ?
[17:26] <c0deMaster> several ways but thats not the point, how can I discover a hidden process or which process is eating the CPU ?
[17:26] <ikonia> c0deMaster: please explain how, as that may give a clue to what's going on
[17:26] <jane_wayne78> why can't i move beyond the second install screen? i did some googling last night and they said this is a bug with the alternate install cd?
[17:27] <jane_wayne78> is this problem not there for previous versions?
[17:27] <angs> I have two monitor (laptop + 19" display), I can not spread the display. I can just see mirror displays on "Displays" settings. When I unselect "Mirror displays" then "apply", I get the following error "requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 768), maximum=(1440, 1440)" what should I do?
[17:27] <giovanni60> to close a blocked program as you do? ubuntu 12.04
[17:29] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: did you MD5 test the .iso image before your burned it or wrote it to the USB flash drive, and did you do "Check disc for defects on it" after booting it?
[17:29] <TPBEurope> Does anyone know how to convert .movie files?
[17:31] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: if not, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM and http://zootlinux.blogspot.com/2010/05/check-disc-for-defects-in-ubuntu-1004.html (applies to versions later than 10.04, like 12.04, and applies to both CD/DVD media and USB flash drives)
[17:31] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan: i checked md5 and also checked the cd itself before the install .. all passed
[17:32] <Benguin> Does anyone else get mouse cursor issues when running Precise in virtual box?
[17:32] <Benguin> If so, how do I fix them?
[17:32] <EliahKagan> deebee396: it depends what version of Ubuntu you are running--starting with Ubuntu 11.10, the "classic" GNOME interface is actually GNOME 3 without 3D acceleration, and made to look mostly like GNOME 2...but before that, it really is GNOME 2
[17:32] <deebee396> im on 12.04 so yeh I suppose it is then
[17:32] <spiritech> is it me, or is the number of individual ppa's growing?
[17:32] <deebee396> will gtk2 themes still work in it?
[17:33] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan: i read somewhere (late last night) that said there might be problems using wireless keyboard during the install... well, where in the world am i going to find/buy a non-wireless keyboard?
[17:33] <Benguin> jane_wayne78 the internet! :D
[17:33] <EliahKagan> deebee396: i'm not sure ...hopefully someone else ccan answer that
[17:34] <jane_wayne78> i know that but i don't want to buy one just for the install
[17:34] <jane_wayne78> (plus i can't wait for the internet)
[17:34] <EliahKagan> spiritech: it would be strange if the number of PPA's didn't grow with time, people are probably more likely to make PPA's than delete their PPA's
[17:34] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: yeah you shouldn't buy one for the installation, there are other things to try first, even if we assume that's the problem
[17:34] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: have you tried installing from the alternate CD?
[17:34] <raptor67782> can we play nes fceu with fbdev on the /dev/tty?
[17:34] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan: yes, alternate cd = server cd
[17:35] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan:  i was confused by the documentation, it seems to suggest that the alternate cd is just the server cd/iso
[17:35] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: sorry, i didn'
[17:35] <spiritech> deebee396 the gtk2 themes dont work for 12.04.
[17:35] <EliahKagan> *sorry, i didn't read your 1st post carefully enough
[17:35] <deebee396> There lies my problem :(
[17:35] <jane_wayne78> in fact, the website says the preferred method is the desktop cd/iso
[17:36] <EliahKagan> thx spiritech
[17:36] <spiritech> some of the old window borders do. though as a rule they dont.
[17:36] <deebee396> Even on gnome classic?
[17:36] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: the desktop CD is the preferred way if you want a desktop system...the server CD is the preferred way if you want a dedicated server system that you are not primarily using for desktop use
[17:36] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: how do you plan to use your Ubuntu system?
[17:37] <rifred> hey
[17:37] <rifred> guys
[17:37] <spiritech> its all gtk3 now. so best bet is to goto gnome-look and get some themes from there.
[17:37] <EliahKagan> hi rifred
[17:37] <deebee396> Ok then, thanks spiritech and EliahKagan
[17:37] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan: i wanna learn the Xen and Xen Cloud Platform (XCP)
[17:37] <rifred> anyone can help me? i have a question..
[17:38] <overminddl1> I am needing bitlbee 3.0.5 installed instead of 3.0.4, but 12.04 has 3.0.4 and 12.10 has 3.0.5 already https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bitlbee/3.0.5-1  How can I update to 3.0.5 without downloading the source and compiling it myself, is there a ppa directive I can put or so?
[17:38] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan: i heard u can do Xen and XCP with "one command line"
[17:38] <jane_wayne78> well not heard but read...
[17:38] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: yeah i don't think you probably want the desktop CD for that, unless you also plan to install a desktop system
[17:38] <rifred> guys how i can make my pinguy os with gnome classic view
[17:38] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: you might try the mini CD, in case there's something weird going on with the server CD ...but only do that if you have an Internet connection while installing
[17:39] <jane_wayne78> EliahKagan: so is the "alternate cd" just the "server ubuntu cd" ?
[17:39] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: i mean, if nothing else works, go ahead and try with the desktop CD, but you'll get a GUI and stuff
[17:39] <EliahKagan> brb
[17:40] <Sebastien75> rm -f $(find / -name core) &> /dev/null
[17:40] <DJones> jaywink: The alternate cd installs a full desktop version of ubuntu using a terminal based installer, the server cd installs a command line only system along with various server packages for running websites etc
[17:40] <DJones> jane_wayne78: See above, posted it to jaywink by accident (sorry about that)
[17:40] <jane_wayne78> thanks djones
[17:41] <elfh> hello
[17:42] <elfh> can anyone help me to install lmms on kubuntu 12, 64 bit? is it possible at all?  i added repositories, but when trying to install lmms i get error - not installable.
[17:42] <jane_wayne78> i read that the reason why installation hangs for wireless usb is because of driver install, u need the driver installed before you can install, but you can't install without the drivers already there
[17:42] <jane_wayne78> that's wierd
[17:44] <angs> where can I find more explanation about "Displays" settings of 12.04?
[17:44] <DasEi> jane_wayne78: is possible on certain usb chips, then try another medium or a dvd-installer
[17:44] <spiritech> if people have there own ppa's for applications. do they eventually get added to the main repository?
[17:44] <Ketsueki_K> Hey, anyone with experience using ARToolKit here?
[17:44] <EliahKagan> jane_wayne78: right, as DJones  says, the server and alternate CD's are different in what packages they install...but unlike versions of Ubuntu previous to 12.04, they now both install the same kernel, so if you choose to install a "minimal system" (from the F4 menu on boot), it's the same with either CD now
[17:45] <DasEi> !display | angs
[17:45] <EliahKagan> spiritech: not automatically
[17:45] <jane_wayne78> DJones: thanks lemme try that
[17:45] <DasEi> angs: more precise question ?
[17:46] <c0deMaster> how to disable totem-video-thumbnailer because its eating cpu
[17:47] <root____> anyone knows how to get a canon mg5051 printer working in ubuntu?
[17:47] <spiritech> EllahKagan. so do the owners submit there work, and then the developers decide if its suitable?
[17:48] <spiritech> or something like that?
[17:48] <EliahKagan> spiritech: there's a few different ways software can get officially packaged for Ubuntu, and it's not too hard to achieve ...there was a good page on this, i'm trying to find it
[17:49] <angs> DasEi: I want to setup dual monitor, the external monitor is 19 inch, I could not figure out how to set it up, I tried all resolution options but each time it gives me error like "requested position/size for CRTC 147 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1366, 0), size=(1280, 768), maximum=(1440, 1440)". how should set it up? or where can I find more info about how to set dual display on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:50] <EliahKagan> spiritech, take a look at http://askubuntu.com/a/16456/22949, basically, most software officially packaged for Ubuntu is officially packaged for Debian and is imported into Ubuntu, but in special cases you can get software officially packages specifically for Ubuntu
[17:50] <root____> anyone?
[17:50] <fooker22> I'm having some trouble installing The Clockwork Man from the Software Centre. I'm getting the following error:   Failed to download repository information
[17:50] <DasEi> angs: I see, which graphics card ?
[17:51] <spiritech> ok. will take a look.
[17:51] <DasEi> !dualhead | angs
[17:51] <angs> how can I see what graphic card does the laptop have?
[17:51] <sandyd> angs: look at the output of "lspci | grep VGA"
[17:52] <angs> I have "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]"
[17:52] <EliahKagan> root____, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers ?
[17:52] <c0deMaster> how to disable totem-video-thumbnailer because its eating cpu
[17:53] <ikonia> c0deMaster: is that what's eathing your cpu ?
[17:53] <ikonia> not a rootkit
[17:53] <DasEi> angs: install and run hwinfo for a dedicated hardwarelisting, so radeon series, well follow above dualhead link and  :
[17:53] <DasEi> !xinerama
[17:54] <angs> thanks DasEi
[17:54] <fooker22> No love for my question?
[17:55] <DasEi> angs: by default xorg.conf now is empty, for your error could also use it to set the range of your failing screen
[17:55] <c0deMaster> ikonia, sometimes it this process starts and eat the process but other times there is n't clear process doing that , so I wanna disable that one to narrow the discovery
[17:56] <ikonia> c0deMaster: how did you get the previous malware/bad application ?
[17:56] <c0deMaster> ikonia, long story please I don't wanna talk about it,sorry
[17:56] <ikonia> c0deMaster: fine good luck sorting out your issues.
[17:56] <EliahKagan> fooker22: assuming your Internet connection is good, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure, that might help, otherwise, there should be some more specific information provided in the error message you're getting, which may help to figure out the proble
[17:57] <angs> DasEi: Is it easy to explain how can I set xorg.conf for the range that I get error?
[17:57] <jane_wayne78> (i found a wired usb keyboard, and install is proceeding)
[17:57] <jane_wayne78> keeping my fingers crossed
[17:58] <c0deMaster> ikonia, so can you help with the totem-video-thumbnailer one?
[17:58] <ikonia> c0deMaster: sorry - I'm not interested in resolving issues with missing info, I'm sure someone else will be willing to help you
[17:58] <NickIneedhelp> I need help. I just downloaded ubuntu and installed it using the alongside windows option and not I can not boot to windows
[17:59] <c0deMaster> ikonia, thanks any way
[17:59] <ikonia> no problem, best of luck
[17:59] <NickIneedhelp> can anyone help me?
[18:00] <K1rk> NickIneedhelp: What exactly is the symptom? Is there never an option presented to boot into Windows, or does the boot fail? If it fails what kind of error are you getting?
[18:00] <DasEi> angs: no , I'd use the tutorial, then see what it made from /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then try to modify it, if there are still problems, directly xorg.conf would involve getting the right specs of both screens (like looking up in x's logfile)
[18:02] <angs> DasEi: thank you very much
[18:02] <NickIneedhelp> it say os not detected when i power up the pc.  I am afraid it did not install on a different partition like it said it was going to. But since i am new to linux i have no idea how to confirm that
[18:03] <Ketsueki_K> #artoolkit
[18:03] <sesom42> NickIneedhelp: "sudo update-grub" should detect your windows installation and add this to the bootmenu
[18:04] <NickIneedhelp> how do i do that? at command prompt?
[18:04] <sesom42> NickIneedhelp: yes
[18:04] <K1rk> NickIneedhelp: Yes in a terminal.
[18:05] <NickIneedhelp> so i just type that and hit enter?
[18:05] <compdoc> sudo update-grub
[18:06] <NickIneedhelp> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[18:06] <NickIneedhelp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[18:06] <NickIneedhelp>  is that it says when i do that
[18:06] <M4rc3l> im having a problem like this guy > http://askubuntu.com/questions/105206/trust-gxt18-keyboard-not-working-hid-max-usages
[18:06] <M4rc3l> how can increase the hid max usages
[18:06] <M4rc3l> its the same keyboard
[18:07] <NickIneedhelp> anyone?
[18:07] <harushimo> i downloaded iso on my hard drive
[18:08] <harushimo> how I access that iso? my vm is working off the cd rom right now
[18:08] <harushimo> I want to change it
[18:08] <sesom42> NickIneedhelp: did you currently run a live-cd or running ubuntu from a usb-stick?
[18:09] <wawowe> harushimo: just want to extract and rebuild the iso?
[18:09] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, seems theres a problem. Maybe with the file /etc/fstab. Please use pastebin.rog to show us that file
[18:09] <compdoc> pastebin.org
[18:09] <harushimo> yeah
[18:09] <harushimo> the cd version may be wrong. I just want to point the vm to my new iso on my hard drive
[18:10] <NickIneedhelp> i am running a live usb as its the only thing that will boot currently. no windows 7 or ubuntu after installing using the along side windows option in the installer
[18:11] <wawowe> harushimo: so you're running a livecd virtual machine
[18:11] <harushimo> I'm running virtual box. I am trying to run the ubuntu cloud cd but I was getting an kernel error
[18:12] <harushimo> it said I have 686
[18:12] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, ahh. That command you ran needs to be done from a booted system, I think. Do you have more than one hard drive in the system? maybe thats where it went wrong
[18:12] <wawowe> harushimo: were you trying to run x86_64 kernel on x86?
[18:13] <NickIneedhelp> i have two hard drives one just has pictures, movies, music. I can still access them from the live ubuntu usb the other drive seems to be gone.
[18:14] <NickIneedhelp> I hope i did this right http://pastebin.com/r30HQ9TD
[18:15] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, you did, but if that fstab file is from the Live cd, its not helpful
[18:15] <c0deMaster> is that a normal process "/usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -background none" ?
[18:15] <concrete_> Does anyone know about the Alsa xrun errors in FFMPEG ?
[18:15] <wawowe> c0deMaster: yes
[18:16] <NickIneedhelp> i got it from my 500gb hard drive that should have both os on it
[18:16] <c0deMaster> wawowe, what does -nolisten tcp mean?
[18:16] <yggdrasil> does anoyone have any usggestions for how to get used to unity ?
[18:16] <Gnea> yggdrasil: use it.
[18:17] <NickIneedhelp> i am starting to think what has happened is the drive did not get partitioned like it said it was doing and just installed right over the windows partition as i cant find anything on that drive to do with windows
[18:17] <wawowe> c0deMaster: it disables tcp connections to the xserver
[18:17] <yggdrasil> Gnea: i have been, it sucks.
[18:17] <Gnea> yggdrasil: then don't use it.
[18:17] <c0deMaster> wawowe, can i add parameter to disable UDP too?
[18:17] <yggdrasil> ive given it the obligitoray 3 months.
[18:17] <concrete_> I wish Ubuntu Linux would run cooler on a dual core laptop Ubuntu Linux is cooking my laptop
[18:17] <yggdrasil> Gnea: haha
[18:17] <Gnea> :)
[18:18] <wawowe> c0deMaster: udp isn't enabled
[18:18] <yggdrasil> its ok, i just wich i had a taskbar up on the top panel
[18:18] <jroz9303> hello
[18:18] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, is gparted one that Live cd?
[18:19] <compdoc> on
[18:19] <yggdrasil> yes
[18:19] <yggdrasil> compdoc: it is
[18:19] <wawowe> concrete_: maybe your laptop just runs hot
[18:19] <NickIneedhelp> i just searched for it and yes i have found gparted on it
[18:19] <Sidewinder> yggdrasil, You've no doubt seen this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[18:19] <harushimo> does anyone run the ubuntu cloud cd iso
[18:20] <concrete_> wawowe, Runs Windows Vista cooler
[18:20] <yggdrasil> Sidewinder: links bad
[18:20] <yggdrasil> bad link
[18:20] <Sidewinder> I know it's kinda' a hack, but...
[18:20] <wawowe> concrete_: switch back to vista :P
[18:20] <yggdrasil> Sidewinder: ive installed that yes, if it was i thnk it is
[18:20] <jroz9303> yeah i agree with you wawoe- concrete if anything I would think it would be the other way around.
[18:20] <concrete_> wawowe, I hate Windows Vista it sucks as an operating system Ubuntu Linux is much better
[18:21] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, run gparted and look at each drive to see if there are NTFS partitions
[18:22] <wawowe> harushimo: if the error said you were on 686 then you likely downloaded the wrong iso
[18:22] <jane_wayne78> should i install the GRUB boot loader? this is a clean install for a server. i am playing around with installing Xen right after this
[18:22] <Sidewinder> yggdrasil, Yea, link's bad; sorry. :(
[18:22] <harushimo> I downloaded from ubuntu website
[18:22] <wawowe> concrete_: if you want it to run cooler, then use more lightweight applications
[18:22] <jane_wayne78> if anyone has experience with ubuntu server + xen please let me know if this will be a problem
[18:22] <jroz9303> or just get a better fan ;-)
[18:23] <NickIneedhelp> i see no NTFS partition using gparted. I had multiple partition before. i see two unknowns of low size and one ext4 of 461gb and a linux-swap. that means windows partition is gone doesn't it?
[18:23] <compdoc> jane_wayne78, ppl still use xen so it should work
[18:23] <wawowe> harushimo: that doesn't mean you chose the right iso for your arch
[18:23] <wawowe> harushimo: you need the 32bit i386 iso
[18:23] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, what about the other drive?
[18:24] <jane_wayne78> compdoc: what do you mean ppl still use xen?
[18:24] <harushimo> that can't be right
[18:24] <harushimo> I run the desktop 64 bit version
[18:24] <modernbob> how do I change the orange color
[18:24] <wawowe> harushimo: pastebin the error
[18:25] <compdoc> jane_wayne78, ubuntu and other distros like centos come with and support qemu-kvm. It does not require a modified kernel as xen does
[18:25] <NickIneedhelp> the other drive appears to be as it was before install ntfs filesystem still there with all files
[18:25] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, whew, well thats something at least
[18:25] <kayne31> Hi all, wonder if someone can help me with a problem I just updated from 11.10 to 12.04 since doing it my wireless connection disconnects randomly after a few minutes although checking it is says it is still running I have to disconnect it it then auto reconnects and everything is good for another couple of minutes?
[18:26] <jane_wayne78> jane_wayne78: o i c... it's just that i'm going down this xen path b/c the major cloud services like amazon use it
[18:26] <harushimo> this is on my virtual machine
[18:26] <NickIneedhelp> what are my options now?
[18:26] <jane_wayne78> (i'd just found out before you typed that in that ubuntu supports kvm out-of-the-box)
[18:27] <wawowe> harushimo: explain in detail what you are trying to do
[18:27] <compdoc> NickIneedhelp, when you install a 2nd operating system on one drive, you need to create an unused partition for it first
[18:27] <K1rk> compdoc: I seem to recall he said he had used WUBI.
[18:27] <K1rk> compdoc: It's my understanding that WUBI uses a file on the windows FS. not a partition.
[18:27] <compdoc> ahh. I have no experience with WUBI
[18:27] <harushimo> https://gist.github.com/2815388
[18:28] <NickIneedhelp> i did that one partition was 250 gb ntfs and another at 200gb that was empty
[18:28] <concrete_> Ubuntu Linux is too addicting I was coding for 7 hours straight
[18:28] <K1rk> compdoc: I don't have much firsthand experience with it either. I don't believe it should be used in a production environment.
[18:28] <harushimo> i'm experimenting with the cloud environment in ubuntu
[18:28] <K1rk> compdoc: It just sounds like a bad idea to me. But I know some folks who've installed it and like it since they don't have to partition their drive.
[18:28] <TPB_se> How do I do ipconfig /release & /renew in Ubuntu?
[18:28] <concrete_> harukomoto, yeah it's addicting
[18:29] <concrete_> harukomoto, I really dont want to store all my personal data on the cloud
[18:30] <TPB_se> How do I do ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew in Ubuntu?
[18:30] <jroz9303> ifconfig
[18:31] <wawowe> harushimo: says your cpu is i686
[18:31] <NickIneedhelp> so can anyone recommend a data recovery program i can use and a way to get the ubuntu os to boot from the drive?
[18:32] <jroz9303> did you try ifconfig TPB?
[18:32] <^SpitFire> thepiratebay.se ?
[18:32] <harushimo> yeah
[18:32] <drecute> please where can I find pam_nis module?
[18:32] <sesom42> TPB_se: sudo service networking restart
[18:32] <harushimo> I had no problem installing ubuntu 12.04 the desktop version
[18:32] <concrete_> NickIneedhelp, You should buy a USB external harddrive to back up all your data, that's what I do with Ubuntu Linux
[18:33] <n0sq> finally got 12.04 installed on a pentium-m laptop - what a pita
[18:33] <dz0ny> NickIneedhelp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:33] <NickIneedhelp> thanks
[18:34] <n0sq> interesting that the wireless icon on the older laptop doesn't list the networks in the area but my new laptop provides that info
[18:34] <morsnowski> n0sq, probably better driver
[18:34] <n0sq> kinda hard to connect to hotspots when i'm on the road
[18:34] <TPB_se> sesom42, Danke.
[18:34] <armaturinis> % cat
[18:35] <armaturinis> Hello, World
[18:35] <Imran119> Hello guys i have lot of problems after installing my ATI drivers on UBUNTU 12.04
[18:35] <jroz9303> word
[18:35] <n0sq> not to mention that there is no amsn package for 12.04 also
[18:36] <Imran119> My videos are not playing properly
[18:36]  * n0sq doesn't like emesene or pidgin
[18:36] <pl099> HEY BRO
[18:37] <pl099> HAVE SOME DROPS WITH ONLINE ACCESS
[18:37]  * n0sq has a desktop where 12.04 won't recogize the wifi card but 11.x does
[18:37] <concrete_> Imran you need unrestricted drivers
[18:37] <Ephexeve> Hey all, I followed this command http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu this guy gave. But before I installed XFCE4, all working perfect, so Iremoved Ubunut. Anyway, now after rebooting, I got a black screen, that's it without any login. How to fix this?
[18:38]  * n0sq isn't impressed with any distro - windows or linux
[18:38] <drecute> can someone help package this: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~peterb/uxsup/project/pam_nis/
[18:38] <concrete_> Imran119, see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[18:38] <Imran119> I have also installed ATI drivers from thier site but after installing that drivers my UBUNTU works on 2D
[18:39] <luiz_> ola
[18:39] <pieruccio> #overflow
[18:40] <drecute> I can't seem to find pam_nis module deb package anywhere
[18:41] <mostafa_> hey all
[18:41] <wawowe> drecute: libpam0g is that what you're looking for?
[18:42] <morane> Hi, am I allowed to query someone in here to ask him some more questions about installation of ubuntu serveR?
[18:43] <morsnowski> morane, query away
[18:43] <drecute> wawowe: checking...
[18:43] <drecute> wawowe: not sure if there's a build for oneiric?
[18:44] <wawowe> drecute: apt-cache search libpam0g
[18:44] <harushimo> https://gist.github.com/2815388
[18:45] <harushimo> what should do to correct this?
[18:45] <harushimo> this is weird error
[18:45] <wawowe> harushimo: get the i386 iso
[18:45] <pieruccio> #1
[18:46] <Imran119> can anyone please help me?
[18:48] <GeekSquid> !details | Imran119
[18:49] <cradydiamond> Hi. My ubuntu boots very long time. What must I do first to diagnost it?
[18:50] <wawowe> cradydiamond: edit /etc/default/grub and remove quite and splash
[18:50] <wawowe> cradydiamond: then dpkg-reconfigure linux-image
[18:51] <Ephexeve> Hey all, I followed this command http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu this guy gave. But before I installed XFCE4, all working perfect, so Iremoved Ubunut. Anyway, now after rebooting, I got a black screen, that's it without any login. How to fix this?
[18:51] <cradydiamond> wawowe: and are there some logs, etc to diagnost problems?
[18:51] <pgib> !op
[18:51] <Myrtti> pgib: what's up?
[18:51] <ikonia> what ?
[18:51] <wawowe> cradydiamond: dmesg | less
[18:52] <IdleOne> pgib: you got are undivided attention, how can we help you?
[18:52] <IdleOne> our*
[18:54] <compdoc> maybe pgib wanted to be an op
[18:54] <IdleOne> pl099: Please do not private message people without getting permission first
[18:55] <usherades> hello any1 know about wiimodedev?
[18:57] <_alpha_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a new HD, alongside Windows 7 which I already have installed. Which option should  I pick for "Device for bootloader installation"?
[18:57] <graft> hi, how come i can't drag my tabs and/or links around in firefox 12?
[18:58] <_alpha_> should it be the "Windows 7 (loader)" option? or the HD with Windows on?
[18:58] <Pricey> _alpha_: Do you only have one HD?
[18:58] <_alpha_> no, multiple
[18:58] <spamalot> _alpha_ the mbr of the HD your are installing to
[18:58] <Pricey> _alpha_: Choose the HD windows is installed on.
[18:58] <sandyd> _alpha_: You can boot windows right? Then its the windows drive
[18:58] <Pricey> _alpha_: It'll install grub to it, overwriting the windows one, but allow you to boot both.
[18:59] <_alpha_> ok, letting it do its thing now
[19:00] <_alpha_> when I tried to install earlier I selected my 2nd HD, which is the one I'm putting ubuntu on
[19:00] <sosjozsef> Why not run "python xyz.py" in terminal? PyGTK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Python_version
[19:00] <_alpha_> but then after restarting it always booted Windows, no grub screen
[19:00] <_alpha_> so I guess setting the Windows HD will get it to overwrite the existing MBR
[19:00] <GeekSquid> _alpha_: you could have changed it in your BIOS to boot from the second drive
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> _alpha_ you are installed correct, or installing?
[19:01] <kayne31> Wonder if someone can help me with a problem I just updated from 11.10 to 12.04 since doing it my wireless connection disconnects randomly after a few minutes although checking it is says it is still running I have to disconnect it it then auto reconnects and everything is good for another couple of minutes?
[19:01] <_alpha_> yeah, problem is, both these HDs are exactly the same make and model, and on the bios screen it only lists one of them for some reason
[19:01] <_alpha_> but if I hit F11 to choose which to boot from it listed both
[19:02] <sandyd> _alpha_ you using RAID or something?
[19:02] <_alpha_> nope
[19:03] <sandyd> _alpha_: What drives are you using
[19:03] <_alpha_> the machine previously had one OCZ SSD which I had windows 7 on, I've bought a 2nd SSD to put Ubuntu on
[19:06] <magesing> Hi everyone, I am having an issue in wine where I don't see any text on buttons. I think it may be due to the fact that the fonts are not installed... google is telling me I should have msttcorefonts installed, but when I try to get msttcorefonts apt autoselects ttf-mscorefonts-installer instead and tells me that it is up to date. How do I install fonts with the ttf-mscorefonts-installer?
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> _alpha_ you are installed, or installing?
[19:09] <Ephexeve> Hey all, I followed this command http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu this guy gave. But before I installed XFCE4, all working perfect, so Iremoved Ubunut. Anyway, now after rebooting, I got a black screen, that's it without any login. How to fix this?
[19:09] <Ephexeve> I cannot use CTRL + ALT + F1 also
[19:10] <graft> Ephexeve: do alt-sysrq-R, then try ctrl-alt-f1
[19:10] <Ephexeve> graft: what does alt- sysrq-R do?
[19:10] <graft> Ephexeve: last time i tried using one of those "pure *ubuntu" tutorials it backfired horribly, don't use those
[19:11] <graft> Ephexeve: puts the input in "raw" mode instead of passing stuff through to Xorg
[19:11] <mezna> et
[19:11] <Ephexeve> graft: And then, how can I fix it? Any clue?
[19:12] <_alpha_> ok, ubuntu installed and booting into the grub selector screen as expected - thanks all
[19:12] <deebee396> Hi, what directory should I put themes in and do I need to use any 3rd party programs to make them work?
[19:12] <reisio> deebee396: themes for what?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, so you want xubuntu is this correct?
[19:13] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: Yeah
[19:13] <deebee396> reisio, gtk themes
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, hut ctrl-alt-f1 and login and run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> hit*
[19:14] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: done that, nothing happens
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, no error no already installed no nothing?
[19:15] <Ephexeve> nothing
[19:15] <zully> precise rocks!!
[19:15] <Ephexeve> CTRL + alt + f1 doenst work
[19:15] <Ephexeve> nothing happenes
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, can you run a sudo apt-get update?
[19:15] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: Course not, I only see a course blinking, nothing else
[19:16] <morsnowski> wilee-nilee, he doesn't even have a tty
[19:16] <graft> Ephexeve: ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work even after doing alt-sysrq-R?
[19:16] <Ephexeve> graft: No
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, try the recovery and a cli from there, it has to have the HD mounted is all.
[19:16] <ionutzyyy> hello
[19:16] <ionutzyyy> this is the ubuntu irc?
[19:16] <graft> Ephexeve: yeah, use a liveCD, your system is in trouble
[19:17] <Ephexeve> graft: True
[19:17] <graft> Ephexeve: i'd back up your data and reinstall probably easiest
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, you could chroot from a live cd.
[19:18] <Ephexeve> graft: basicly is not me, it's a friend I use Arch Linux I am guiiding him, but since I don't use ubuntu I am not sure
[19:18] <Ephexeve> graft: I will check the recovery mode, is there any options there about install packages or something?
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, arch and ubuntu are both linux hardly any difference
[19:18] <Ephexeve> graft: maybe I am just missing the login screen, nothing else
[19:18] <ionutzyyy> can someone please help me with installing ubuntu?
[19:18] <Ephexeve> since I ran that command, might that I removed the login screen
[19:18] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: There are, there are
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> hardly, you wil discover lol
[19:19] <guntbert> ionutzyyy: what is your problem?
[19:20] <ionutzyyy> i instaled the ubuntu 12.04 on the flash with universal usb instaler
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, they seem different at first but both are linux running on the same basic kernels, just slight differences is all.
[19:20] <ionutzyyy> but i can't install it
[19:20] <ionutzyyy> i reboot my pc and type f12 for boot menu
[19:20] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: yeah, but check the confs of arch and ubuntu later on and you will see what I mean
[19:20] <hellyeah> hey
[19:20] <papyon> quit
[19:20] <ionutzyyy> and i've selected every option fromthere
[19:20] <hellyeah> i have one question
[19:21] <ionutzyyy> and nothing happens
[19:21] <hellyeah> ubuntu 12.04 is stable anymore
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, I have run both and just about every major linux release, all the same basically.
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, you know how to chroot?
[19:21] <hellyeah> ubuntu 12.04 stable ,?
[19:21] <netmk> ionutzyyy: so you don't see any Ubuntu logo or anything like that?
[19:22] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: Yeps
[19:22] <netmk> hellyeah: yes.. it's an LTS release.
[19:22] <ionutzyyy> nope
[19:22] <simon__> hi, I installed ubuntu besides win7 but the grub entry for win7 is not working anymore.. it just returns to grub?! halp!
[19:22] <guntbert> ionutzyyy: either the PC doesn't boot from usb or the "install" went wrong (I had that happen)
[19:22] <ionutzyyy> when i opened the drive where i've installed the os
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, chroot to the ubuntu and install the xubuntu-desktop is what I would try
[19:22] <netmk> ionutzyyy: sounds like you're either not booting on the USB device, or your USB device is not configure correctly.
[19:22] <ProtekNickz> .
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> hellyeah, that is a subjective, run it and see.
[19:22] <ionutzyyy> hm
[19:22] <ionutzyyy> i open my computewr
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> and i have all drivers
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> a,b,c,d..
[19:23] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: will do that, otherwise fedora-it
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> and in drive i:/
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> i have the logo and install ubuntu
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> i press it
[19:23] <FloodBot1> ionutzyyy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, don't use the enter as punctuation
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> and i open the folder
[19:23] <ionutzyyy> ok, sorry
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> Ephexeve, yeah fedora is a nice setup,;)
[19:24] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: Fedora and arch, rules!
[19:24] <ionutzyyy> after i opened the drive i i have wubi.exe
[19:24] <Ephexeve> wilee-nilee: I must be honest, Ubuntu has ended after 10.10
[19:24] <Ephexeve> 10.10, was bravo!
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, any reason you are not doing a partitioned install?
[19:25] <ionutzyyy> what means partitional install?
[19:25] <Lejda> hey guys
[19:25] <Lejda> hey guys
[19:25] <ionutzyyy> partitioned*
[19:25] <Lejda> how can i remove effects on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, a install from the cd booted, a wubi is justa file in windows, for trying out ubuntu basically in lieu of a install to a partition.
[19:25] <deke111> Hi. I'm dual booting with grub 1.99 - selling the pc to someone who just wants windows - any way to restore the original mbr to get rid of grub?
[19:26] <reisio> deke111: with easybcd from inside Windows, or ms-sys from Ubuntu
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> deke111, the original being windows?
[19:26] <ionutzyyy> thats what i try to do
[19:26] <reisio> deke111: or Windows install media / fixmbr/etc.
[19:26] <ionutzyyy> i want to format my HD and instal fresh ubuntu
[19:26] <reisio> ionutzyyy: and?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, you have to boot a downloaded cd then
[19:27] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[19:27] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[19:27] <wawowe> graft: it's probably one of your addons, but try this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/move-tabs/
[19:27] <ionutzyyy> i dont have any empty cds right now thats why i tried with the flash :P
[19:27] <Lejda> stupid gnome3
[19:27] <Lejda> i want gnome2
[19:27] <deke111> ok. thankx
[19:27] <Lejda> i want light desktop how can get back to gnome2
[19:28] <pac1> interesting result at kernel.ubuntu.org
[19:28] <ionutzyyy> i downloaded the iso file from the site and instaled on the flash disk with the universal usb program from the site
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> Lejda, try the gnome classic in the login menu
[19:28] <ionutzyyy> but it doesnt work
[19:29] <ionutzyyy> i tried every option from the boot menu and nothing happens, my windows just starts normally after i press the option
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, what is your definition of does not work, details are important here.
[19:29] <ionutzyyy> its not happening anything
[19:29] <ionutzyyy> i dont get any error or something like this
[19:29] <Lejda> wilee-nilee: there is only one option gnome2D
[19:29] <ionutzyyy> its just not working
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, try a per-session boot might be a f-12 prompt, should say on the bios flash
[19:30] <ionutzyyy> i press for e.g. usb- zip and it continues to run windows
[19:30] <laumonier> hi im looking for a graphical prog to convert music and video files in mp3 what is the best prog ???thx
[19:30] <ionutzyyy> to try look on the bios?
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> Lejda, that is unity not gnome 3, you can install the gnome-shell and get gnome 3 and the classic
[19:31] <Guest28061> /list
[19:31] <Lejda> wilee-nilee: so if i put this command " apt-get install gnome-shell"
[19:31] <Lejda> is it enough ?=
[19:31] <Aprel> Twice over the past few days my Ubuntu desktop has mysteriously restarted itself without warning. What logs can I check to find more information to the problem?
[19:31] <auronandace> sudo
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> ionutzyyy, there is a boot from menu oputside of the bios, the bios splash you see tells you how to get there and how to get to the bios
[19:31] <wawowe> graft: for me it was the tor button that was causing the issue
[19:32] <Lejda> i am on /bin/bash  sudo is not required
[19:32] <ionutzyyy> and how do i get there?
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> Lejda, yeah in root yes
[19:33] <Lejda> so how can i remove this effects
[19:33] <openbees> Hello Guys Its a very Imergency call ... I am working on one of the GSOC project .. and My ubuntu system is showing some wired behaviour ... I am can see login screen of my system but not able to login .. after filling password it is reloading login screen again .. any idea how can i overcome to this problem ??
[19:33] <Lejda> i really hate them all
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> Lejda, be careful with using a superuser from the cli use sudo.
[19:34] <Lejda> wilee-nilee: thanks for your warning.
[19:34] <guntbert> openbees: you can select another session type from the login screen
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> Lejda, Its not your debian anymore. :)
[19:35] <Lejda> the menu is so complex
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> its the emperor with new clothes, in drag actually
[19:35] <Lejda> i cant find what i need anymore
[19:35] <openbees> guntbert : i tried but not working  .except shell access but no gui access at all !!
[19:35] <Eagleman> No one can help me with my hdparm issue?
[19:36] <Lejda> kde4 is same & gnome3  they are killing people
[19:37] <guntbert> openbees: log into the shell, and have a look at the logs (under /var/log/)
[19:37] <fasta> Can someone explain why multilib is being shipped in 12.04 while clearly the distribution is not ready?
[19:38] <fasta> I think I have seen 10 packages now for which multilib doesn't work.
[19:38] <macwithlinux> hello
[19:38] <fasta> You would have found the same issues if someone would have tested it.
[19:38] <Boreeas> Is there a way to restart gnome-shell without logging me out?
[19:38] <jrib> !bugs | fasta
[19:39] <fasta> jrib: they are already known.
[19:39] <macwithlinux> i cant get ubuntu instal on my mac machine
[19:39] <fasta> jrib: I just don't get why people would make that choice.
[19:39] <jrib> fasta: what do you expect to accomplish here then?
[19:39] <fasta> jrib: especially for a LTS release.
[19:39] <jrib> fasta: we're volunteers here; most of us are likely not involved with that decision
[19:40] <fasta> jrib: aren't you pissed that they do that?
[19:40] <Lejda> hey i've another problem
[19:40] <macwithlinux> im using the cd  and have a bootleoder program but the instalation just gives a black sreen with a blinking dot in the left corner
[19:40] <guntbert> fasta: did you use aptitude?
[19:40] <fasta> guntbert: why is that relevant?
[19:40] <jrib> fasta: I haven't encountered any issues
[19:41] <guntbert> !aptitude | fasta
[19:41] <Lejda> how can i execute graphical interface as root ?
[19:41] <jrib> Lejda: why do you want to?
[19:41] <fasta> guntbert: I know what aptitude is.
[19:41] <macwithlinux> anyone?
[19:41] <ikonia> Lejda: you don't
[19:41] <Lejda> i can't add user at this moment
[19:41] <ikonia> Lejda: you login to X as a non-privileged user
[19:41] <guntbert> fasta: please do read - it has multiarch problems
[19:41] <Lejda> i cant click  in user accounts unlock tab
[19:42] <ikonia> Lejda: test your sudo privileges
[19:42] <Lejda> i'm root
[19:42] <ikonia> Lejda: then you shouldn't be
[19:42] <ikonia> Lejda: as I told you, you use a non-privileged user
[19:42] <usherades> hello any1 know about wiimodedev?
[19:43] <openbees> guntbert : my bad ... i have changed permission for /tmp
[19:43] <Lejda> ok. now i am in normal system admin user
[19:43] <Lejda> not root
[19:43] <openbees> guntbert : btw thanks
[19:43] <macwithlinux> ?
[19:43] <Lejda> but i still can't click to unlock button ( i cant add new user the system )
[19:43] <ikonia> Lejda: test your sudo privileges
[19:43] <jrib> fasta: guntbert is pointing out that aptitude cannot deal with multi-arch
[19:43] <Harris> anyone know how to get the burn effect in compiz what package it is in
[19:43] <guntbert> openbees:  you're welcome :-)  and   thx for reporting back
[19:43] <Lejda> probably i am going to comman line
[19:44] <Lejda> useradd -d /home/newuser  newuser   this is valid command without shell access
[19:44] <Lejda> how can i give shell access to user
[19:44] <ikonia> Lejda: I'm going to stop helping now as you're not doing what I'm asking you to do
[19:44] <macwithlinux> cant anyone help me out here
[19:44] <Lejda> useradd -d /home/newuser newuser -s /bin/bash
[19:44] <Lejda> ?
[19:44] <ikonia> Lejda: best of luck
[19:45] <fasta> guntbert: thanks for the information. You must understand that it's easy for me to think that it was just a standard blurb about aptitude.
[19:45] <jrib> !helpme | macwithlinux
[19:45] <fasta> jrib: yes, I had noticed it.
[19:45] <guntbert> fasta: no worries :)
[19:46] <macwithlinux> i need the information and nobody helps me what els can i do
[19:46] <jrib> macwithlinux: ask your actual question.
[19:46] <macwithlinux> i cant get ubunto instaled or even booted
[19:46] <jrib> macwithlinux: checksum your cd
[19:47] <hornet8621> hi..  how can one call another makefile from a mother-makefile with the same target/argument without hard-coding all arguments? anyone an idea?
[19:47] <escott> hornet8621, you should read the "multiple makefiles are bad" article
[19:47] <macwithlinux> i first tryed on my windows and it freezes on instal, and i tryed with cd usb on pc and mac, it dousnt work
[19:47] <Lejda> ikonia: i already checked. my sudo privs are enough. But thank you
[19:48] <escott> hornet8621, http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/books/rmch/
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> macwithlinux, what app did you load the usb with?
[19:49] <macwithlinux> the one one the ubuntu site
[19:50] <pc-moon> i wanna use scanner from hp printer 3in 1deskjet f380
[19:50] <pc-moon> how i can use scanner only ink is blank for that get message
[19:50] <pc-moon> but i wanna scanner only
[19:50] <macwithlinux> there isnt any explenation why it happens, i got it instaled 1 time but it crashed everythime on the password screen so i cudent put anything in
[19:50] <jrib> macwithlinux: checksum your cd
[19:51] <macwithlinux> ths is my 3rd <cd already
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> macwithlinux, tery unetbootin it is on the web, and check the md5sum of the ISO first.  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> try*
[19:52] <jrib> macwithlinux: what's your point.  You need to actually checksum one.
[19:52] <macwithlinux> i falowed the tutorial on the ubutusite on it
[19:52] <fr500> hi
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> jrib, checksum does not register with everyone a link helps as O have provided.
[19:52] <fasta> How can I browse URLs in tmux by clicking on them with the mouse?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> O=I
[19:53] <macwithlinux> i did one on mac one on pc and one older iso on pc
[19:53] <reisio> fasta: in what term?
[19:53] <macwithlinux> i also tryed wubi on windows
[19:53] <fasta> reisio: konsole
[19:53] <reisio> fasta: probably just right-click
[19:54] <reisio> #kde would know absolutely
[19:54] <fasta> reisio: the problem is that clicking left gets me in copy mode.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> Maccer, to be honest we only want what you have tried if we ask, that info is of no help really, check the md5sum using the link I gave you and try unetbootin.
[19:54] <hornet8621> escott, thx... is there apart from not-using it a solution to my question? I'm having a program with several projects, and all projects need the same framework, so I wanted to use one makefile for compiling the framework, and another to for the project. and the project makefile should call the framework makefile, with the same target
[19:54] <reisio> fasta: I just said right...
[19:54] <fasta> reisio: yes, but that's not convenient.
[19:55] <reisio> fasta: check konsole prefs, then
[19:55] <escott> hornet8621, i dont know enough about make to be able to answer your question. i just remember the various * considered harmful articles
[19:55] <fasta> reisio: in konsole, left click means go to URL.
[19:55] <reisio> fasta: so what's the problem
[19:55] <guntbert> fasta: or change the tmux preferences (if there are any..)
[19:56] <escott> hornet8621, you probably just want to include one makefile in the other and maybe have a master makefile to define your global parameters
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> macwithlinux to be honest we only want what you have tried if we ask, that info is of no help really, check the md5sum using the link I gave you and try unetbootin.  sorry Maccer
[19:56] <fasta> reisio: ok, perhaps not.
[19:56] <macwithlinux> i did that already
[19:57] <hornet8621> escott, ok.. thx :-)
[19:57] <guntbert> macwithlinux: you did what? md5sum test the iso? before burning it?
[19:57] <JMichael|work> anyone know what the issue is with ubuntu's servers being so extremely slow the last several weeks?
[19:57] <macwithlinux> what?
[19:58] <macwithlinux> im using the iso from the dowleod page,  there cant be anything wrong with it
[19:58] <jrib> macwithlinux: yes there can be...
[19:58] <macwithlinux> how
[19:58] <guntbert> macwithlinux: yes, there can, so please do check it
[19:59] <guntbert> !md5sum | macwithlinux
[19:59] <VDZ> I am going insane here...can somebody please, please tell me how I can simply run two .sh scripts, one as my normal user and one as root, on startup in 12.04?
[19:59] <jrib> macwithlinux: there could be some error with the download
[19:59] <VDZ> There are tons of explanations on the internet, but none of them work
[19:59] <fasta> guntbert: 'change tmux preferences' is an existential statement; those don't belong in this channel.
[19:59] <jrib> VDZ: what do they do?
[19:59] <Aprel> My Ubuntu desktop restarts itself without warning, but I'm always away from keys when it happens. kern.log doesn't have any info on the shutdown, just that it restarted. Any suggestions?
[19:59] <Ca11um> I'm considering switching a home network from Windows to Ubuntu (including a home server, for synced accounts/docs)
[19:59] <fasta> Aprel: could be power issues.
[20:00] <VDZ> jrib; the scripts?
[20:00] <jrib> VDZ: yes...
[20:00] <Ca11um> What, other than 'gaming', are the disadvantages of using Ubuntu rather than Windows?
[20:00] <Aprel> btw, I'm usually running cpu-intensive activites, but sensors shows I'm well below any temperature limits (at least by 10 C).
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> macwithlinux, you did what already you are not being specific, you can checksum a ISO and a cd.
[20:00] <VDZ> I want at least one to start my VNC server (non-root) and at least one to mount a disk and perform some directory mounting trickery (root)
[20:00] <Aprel> fasta: any tools I can use to probe for a possible power issue?
[20:01] <VDZ> But I'll definitely expand them later on to start some screens with server programs and stuff like that
[20:01] <jrib> VDZ: why aren't you using fstab for the latter?  You can use an @reboot line in your user's crontab for the vnc thing
[20:01] <reisio> Ca11um: that's about it
[20:01] <fasta> Aprel: I am not good with electronics.
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> !nic | macwithlinux please use a nic in your responses as well
[20:01] <sesom42> VDZ: you can edit /etc/rc.local and put your commands for startup there
[20:01] <reisio> Ca11um: though you should revise it to 'using games that are designed to only work on Windows'
[20:01] <VDZ> sesom42; I tried, it doesn't work
[20:01] <reisio> Ca11um: and even those games that are well made work via Wine
[20:01] <reisio> it's the poorly made games that don't
[20:02] <Harris> where is burn in compiz
[20:02] <usherades> hello any1 know about wiimodedev?
[20:02] <fasta> reisio: or those that don't work on purpose.
[20:02] <reisio> fasta: semantics
[20:02] <usherades> pm me
[20:02] <VDZ> jrib; I've never managed to get any cron jobs (for other stuff) running correctly either. Same problem, tons of explanations and none work
[20:02] <macwithlinux> checksum is UDIF-CRC32
[20:02] <VDZ> And can fstab also mount folders?
[20:02] <sesom42> VDZ: which commands do you want to run? network is initialized after rc.local
[20:02] <jrib> VDZ: crontab -e, to edit your crontab. Then make a line with "@reboot COMMAND"
[20:02] <reisio> Ca11um: netflix isn't so much something you can use with Linux ATM
[20:03] <reisio> possibly in the near future, possibly not, but there are many competitors
[20:03] <jrib> VDZ: you mount devices, not folders
[20:03] <ghaering> How do I do the equivalent of /etc/init.d/network-interface restart on 12.04?
[20:03] <VDZ> sesom; mainly 'tightvncserver -geometry 1200x800' right now
[20:03] <VDZ> jrib; you can also mount folders, as a symlink of sorts
[20:03] <jrib> VDZ: you mean bind mounts?
[20:03] <escott> VDZ, you want to put a bind mount in your fstab?
[20:04] <harushimo> i want to install vmware
[20:04] <guntbert> !who | macwithlinux
[20:04] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[20:04] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[20:04] <VDZ> It's one of the ways to access inaccessible directories through FTP
[20:04] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[20:04] <VDZ> jrib; yes
[20:04] <jrib> VDZ: yes, you can use fstab
[20:04] <VDZ> Okay, that would solve that one specific problem. But the general problem is that I just want to be able to run .sh scripts at startup
[20:04] <harushimo> !vmware
[20:04] <jrib> VDZ: I told you how to do that twice now
[20:04] <guntbert> harushimo: vmware has the same restrictions regarding 64bit guests as vbox
[20:04] <macwithlinux> ubottu its takin 3 hours
[20:05] <harushimo> darn
[20:05] <harushimo> I was trying to beat the system
[20:05] <kimus> hi, where's the best place to help me why Virtualbox stoped to work on Bridged mode in libvirt virbr0 inteface?
[20:05] <harushimo> I'm guessing my main problem is setting up a 64 bit for guest
[20:06] <guntbert> macwithlinux: no, checking doesn't take so long
[20:06] <VDZ> brb, rebooting to test
[20:07] <ghaering> How do I reload network interfaces on 12.04?
[20:07] <Boreeas> Is there a way to restart gnome-shell without the side effect of logging me out?
[20:07] <macwithlinux> guntbert what dous this do?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Boreeas, alt-f2 r
[20:08] <guntbert> ghaering: sudo service network-interface restart
[20:08] <sofco31> hello
[20:08] <guntbert> macwithlinux: we told you 3 times already, please read what we say
[20:08] <Aprel> If my cpu were getting too hot, causing a shutdown, in what file would that information be logged?
[20:08] <Harris> in compiz when enabling burn what do i type in windows match
[20:08] <VDZ> sudo ps -A | grep vnc still doesn't return anything, and it's refusing VNC connections
[20:08] <sofco31> where to start digging for a problematic network on precise amd64 - it connects at 100mbs isntead of 1000
[20:09] <macwithlinux> guntbert im doing it and its taking 2 to 3 hours, but i dont know what its oing
[20:09] <ghaering> guntbert: that's what I tried. All I get is "stop: Unknown parameter: INTERFACE"
[20:09] <StevenR_> sofco31: what does ethtool say?
[20:09] <Boreeas> wilee-nilee: Thank you
[20:09] <VDZ> At the bottom of my crontab -e file is '@reboot tightvncserver -geometry 1200x800'
[20:09] <dejahmoi> sofco31, does it connect at 1000 for any OS?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> Boreeas, no problem.
[20:09] <sofco31> dejahmoi: works fine with windows
[20:09] <VDZ> jrib; so what am I doing wrong?
[20:09] <sofco31> StevenR_: advertised 1000, running at 100
[20:10] <StevenR_> sofco31: pastebin the output please
[20:10] <sofco31> StevenR_: dejahmoi equipment and cabling are fine
[20:10] <dejahmoi> sofco31, what kind of ethernet do you have?
[20:11] <guntbert> ghaering: try adding eth0 (or so) before restart
[20:11] <sofco31> StevenR_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010240/
[20:11] <dejahmoi> sofco31, also what if you try to force it to 1000 with ethtool?
[20:11] <Harris> never mind i got it to work
[20:11] <macwithlinux> guntbert it did this checksumming
[20:11] <sofco31> dejahmoi: link dies if i try to force it with ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full
[20:12] <macwithlinux> now what?
[20:12] <Harris> who thinks compiz is a unity killer
[20:12] <guntbert> macwithlinux: did you compare it with the value on the web site? are they the same?
[20:12] <macwithlinux> it says complete
[20:12] <dejahmoi> sofco31, what about 1000 half-duplex?
[20:13] <sofco31> dejahmoi: not supported by the NIC
[20:13] <Sidewinder> guntbert, You, my friend, are an exceedingly patient soul. :-)
[20:13] <VDZ> jrib; are you still there?
[20:13] <LordOfTime> Sidewinder:  guntbert's one of the most patient people here :p
[20:13] <sofco31> dejahmoi: on the same machine windows is working fine, and on the same network all other PCs are on gigabit network (it's a small home network)
[20:13] <guntbert> :)
[20:14] <dejahmoi> sounds like a flaw in the linux drivers for your ethernet (which is nothing new)
[20:14] <macwithlinux> guntbert ther is no valeu
[20:14] <gh0ul> Any special steps one has to take to get the ibus icons in systray under 12.04? Ibus seems to work, but I get no icon
[20:14] <gh0ul> (Kubuntu 12.04)
[20:14] <LordOfTime> gh0ul:  out of curiosity, did you ask in #kubuntu ?
[20:14] <dejahmoi> most linux drivers have some flaw or another
[20:14] <Pigeonaras> hello guys
[20:14] <gh0ul> thought you guys share the help channel, my bad.
[20:14] <sofco31> dejahmoi: more likely a bug in precise, i spent several hours in the morning with the same problem on the homeserver, however after multiple tries in the end it got gigabit network from ifdown ifup
[20:15] <guntbert> macwithlinux: not possible, what did you type? (please paste the exact command)
[20:15] <reisio> dejahmoi: for example?
[20:15] <reisio> Pigeonaras: hi
[20:16] <StevenR_> sofco31: can you pastebin the full output of ethtool (sudo ethtool eth0) please?
[20:16] <guntbert> !ot | dejahmoi
[20:16] <VDZ> Can somebody please help me? I just want to simply execute a command or .sh script at bootup, but no matter what advice I try it just doesn't work
 VDZ: crontab -e, to edit your crontab. Then make a line with "@reboot COMMAND"
 sudo ps -A | grep vnc still doesn't return anything, and it's refusing VNC connections
 At the bottom of my crontab -e file is '@reboot tightvncserver -geometry 1200x800'
 jrib; so what am I doing wrong?
[20:16] <FloodBot1> VDZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <JMichael|work> anyone know what the issue is with ubuntu's servers being so extremely slow the last several weeks?
[20:17] <dejahmoi> reisio, for example? the 3c90x drivers, the tulip drivers, the typhoon drivers work, but they aren't as functional as the windows driver
[20:17] <zyxel> hi
[20:17] <reisio> dejahmoi: how aren't they?
[20:17] <reisio> zyxel: hi
[20:18] <macwithlinux> guntbert i did the disk utilety, dint work, i did terminal, -bash: mb5: command not found
[20:18] <zyxel>  how can i move a file in xubuntu file explorer?
[20:18] <sofco31> StevenR_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010253/
[20:18] <dejahmoi> reisio, apprently that would be OT, so not here
[20:18] <escott> macwithlinux, md5 not mb5
[20:19] <escott> macwithlinux, actually md5sum
[20:19] <guntbert> macwithlinux: you did not read correctly - you have to type md5sum  <name of the iso>
[20:19] <reisio> dejahmoi: right...
[20:19] <Draconicus> HIYO
[20:19] <reisio> zyxel: same as any other...
[20:20] <escott> VDZ, what about rc.local?
[20:20] <Draconicus> I am planning on attempting to "upgrade" x86 Oneiric to a 64bit Precise with the built-in upgrader thing. Will it work? Will it blow up?
[20:20] <dejahmoi> reisio, I got warned by the mods while I was writing my for examples but before I hit enter
[20:20] <VDZ> escott; I tried, doesn't seem to do anything either
[20:20] <sudo_bash> Draconicus, blow
[20:20]  * reisio shrugs
[20:20] <macwithlinux> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52
[20:20] <reisio> they should've spoken up earlier, now we just have a dead convo
[20:20] <sudo_bash> no upgrade from 32 to 64 bit
[20:20] <Draconicus> Damn. I wanted to preserve my Apache config and all that jazz.
[20:20] <sofco31> Draconicus: 10 bucks on blow
[20:21] <Draconicus> I'll have to import it manually.
[20:21] <Draconicus> Messy.
[20:21] <escott> VDZ, the problem with tightvnc is that it resumably needs to wait for X11 to start. it might be better to create an upstart job that depends on lightdm
[20:21] <Draconicus> Also my SQL stuff
[20:21] <dj_segfault> Draconicus:  Copying over Apache config is super trivial.
[20:21] <Draconicus> Okie dokie. :x
[20:21] <Draconicus> And MySQL?
[20:21] <macwithlinux> guntbert what do i do with this? where can i compare it
[20:21] <fasta> Draconicus: I did it on one machine and it worked, except for the part where it asked a lot of questions.
[20:21] <sudo_bash> Draconicus, you ahould be able to get your db's scripted out
[20:21] <VDZ> escott; how do I make the system automatically run certain .sh scripts after everything else is loaded?
[20:22] <fasta> Draconicus: but you can configure that.
[20:22] <sofco31> VDZ: cron
[20:22] <VDZ> sofco31; and so we go full circle :<
 sudo ps -A | grep vnc still doesn't return anything, and it's refusing VNC connections
 At the bottom of my crontab -e file is '@reboot tightvncserver -geometry 1200x800'
 jrib; so what am I doing wrong?
[20:22] <guntbert> macwithlinux: please follow http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:22] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[20:22] <Draconicus> sudo_bash: My MySQL-fu is weak. I only have a database for other applications to magic their way into. I'll use the MySQL browser though.
[20:22] <joshdevel12> hey, guys.  right now, i'm booted off my live cd.  how do i mount 1 of 2 drives from a raid1 mdadm array?
[20:22] <macwithlinux> its not the same
[20:23] <joshdevel12> the 1st drive's hosed, the 2nd drive seems to verify fine
[20:23] <Draconicus> joshdevel12: Do you have hands? I'd just unplug the thing...
[20:23] <modernbob> I loaded up the 3.4 kernel .. how do I get nvidia driver to work with this?
[20:23] <dj_segfault> Draconicus: myswldump will create .sql files that can recreate your databases
[20:23] <usherades> any1 knows how to find wiimote MAC,pm me
[20:23] <dejahmoi> joshdevel12, physically disconect the other drive?
[20:23] <Darael> joshdevel12: Tou'd have to mount the array in degraded mode...?  Idon't know how that's done.  Remove the second drive, perhaps, or with -o degraded?
[20:24] <escott> VDZ, look at /etc/init/lightdm.conf or any other file in /etc/init. you can create a job that starts when lightdm.conf emits "login-session-start" and then starts tightvnc
[20:24] <macwithlinux> guntbert the iso file is corect, but the cd isnt
[20:24] <escott> VDZ, see http://mlepicki.com/2011/10/remote-vnc-login-to-ubuntu-11-10/
[20:24] <guntbert> macwithlinux: then the download was bad - conside using a torrent
[20:25] <guntbert> macwithlinux: ah, so you have a good iso - burn it with low speed
[20:25] <macwithlinux> again?
[20:26] <macwithlinux> then im burning them wrong
[20:26] <escott> macwithlinux, are you burning as image or data?
[20:26] <dejahmoi> there's more than one possible reason for bad cd burns
[20:26] <macwithlinux> the files
[20:26] <modernbob> I loaded up the 3.4 kernel .. how do I get nvidia driver to work with this?
[20:26] <Draconicus> I've been afraid of 64bit Uboobadoo for years. Since the days of Breezy, 64bit Linux has been known to me as as "Fight With WINE/Flash/Java/Oldbinaries/Everythingelse Edition"
[20:26] <escott> macwithlinux, there are instructions on the ubuntu.com website for how to burn correctly with many popular burning applications
[20:26] <reisio> Draconicus: problem with the distros you've used, not Linux in general
[20:27] <Darael> macwithlinux: If there's another burner available, try using it.  Minimum speed, of course.  Additionally, consider a bootable USB key if that's an option.
[20:27] <macwithlinux> guntbert i did that both on windows and mac
[20:27] <Draconicus> reisio: I would think that old 32bit binaries not working well on 64bit environments would be a fundamental thing...
[20:27] <Boohbah> Draconicus: they all work fine for me
[20:28] <sofco31> StevenR_: any ideas
[20:28] <Draconicus> I did say since BREEZY, so it's been a long time of superstition. Thanks for helping me feel more confident in this planned migration. :)
[20:28] <VDZ> brb, reboot...
[20:28] <guntbert> macwithlinux: you should not burn the files, follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:28] <dejahmoi> macwithlinux, are you tryng to boot this cd on a Mac?
[20:28] <reisio> Draconicus: everything you listed is available as 64-bit ATM
[20:28] <reisio> Draconicus: your problem is probably more to do with Debian/-based distros and DFSG
[20:28] <macwithlinux> i already burned it on a mac
[20:28] <Draconicus> reisio: So a binary from Dapper of XMMS with the Blursk plugin?
[20:28] <Alvaro-iqQ> hola
[20:28] <reisio> Draconicus: which somewhat prohibit making it easy to install proprietary software
[20:28] <Pigeonaras> macwithlinux: use UnetBootin.....It's a cross platform app
[20:28] <reisio> Draconicus: what about it?
[20:28] <Alvaro-iqQ> alguna nena ubuntera
[20:28] <reisio> Alvaro-iqQ: shalom
[20:29] <reisio> Alvaro-iqQ: #ubuntu-es
[20:29] <Draconicus> reisio: An old, unsupported binary. How would it work in 64bit?
[20:29] <Darael> Draconicus: Newer versions of Ubuntu 64-bit (Oneiric onwards?) have multiarch enabled by default, so worst-case is just install the 32-bit version of something and put up with the duplicate librariy depends.
[20:29] <Alvaro-iqQ> alguien que hble español
[20:29] <macwithlinux> where can i find anoter iso
[20:29] <macwithlinux> i dotn trust this one
[20:29] <DJones> !es | Alvaro-iqQ
[20:29] <reisio> !redundant
[20:29] <Boohbah> !reisio
[20:30] <Alvaro-iqQ> ok gracias,,,,no le pego mucho al ingles la verdad
[20:30] <guntbert> macwithlinux: if the md5sum was the same as on the website you can trust the iso, you just need to burn it correctly
[20:30] <reisio> macwithlinux: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[20:30] <macwithlinux> where do i get anoter ISO
[20:30] <Draconicus> Darael: Is there some way I could symlink /usr/lib to a location on HDD? I've got a rather small SDD surrounded by slow, noisy disc-based brethren.
[20:30] <Pigeonaras> macwithlinux: iso of what??   ubuntu??
[20:30] <Draconicus> I guess I could partition that during the install...
[20:30] <dejahmoi> macwithlinux, if the md5 checksum is right, the iso is probably ok.
[20:30] <macwithlinux> ubuntu intel
[20:31] <escott> Draconicus, separate /usr is pretty much not supported at this point
[20:31] <Pigeonaras> at the official ubuntu site
[20:31] <macwithlinux> dejahmoi i burn it to a cd and it gives anoter code
[20:31] <Draconicus> macwithlinux: You are basically using a PC. Don't worry about any "Mac" versions. The standard one linked directly on ubuntu.com is fine.
[20:31] <dejahmoi> macwithlinux, but I've seen a few Mac users having a lot of trouble getting the disc to boot at all
[20:31] <Darael> Draconicus: /usr/lib should be fine, just don't try to put /lib on another partition.  In theory.  Unfortunately, Upstart rather breaks that.
[20:31] <reisio> macwithlinux: you don't have a USB stick?
[20:32] <macwithlinux> yes i hav one
[20:32] <escott> Darael, i would disagree. Draconicus should run ldd on everything in /bin to see what he is going to be breaking
[20:32] <Draconicus> Darael: Okay. /lib probably contains the key to mounting device paths, yes? That would be a problem.
[20:32] <Pigeonaras> macwithlinux: Download iso from official ubuntu site and burn it, I prefer to a usb, with UnetBootin......
[20:32] <dejahmoi> macwithlinux, if the cd doesn't equal the iso, you're burning wrong
[20:32] <TPB_se> How do I add a custom resolution to the nvidia settings app in Ubuntu/
[20:32] <Darael> Draconicus: You could certainly get away with putting /{usr/,}lib32 on an external partition if using a 64-bit system.
[20:33] <Darael> escott: Is a fair point and one I had neglected to consider.
[20:33] <modernbob> how do you install nvidia drivers on 3.4 kernel?
[20:34] <Draconicus> Darael: Now that's a clever workaround. I was hoping to just outright clear up some space in general. I'd love to run my Minecraft server off of the SSD directly. Maybe I could give up one of my 6GB of SSD swap though. :P
[20:34] <reisio> TPB_se: 'nvidia-settings'?
[20:34] <VDZ> escott; it didn't work, but manually running the file gives the output "start: Unknown job: on" "Script started, file is typescript", dumps me in a root prompt, and on CTRL+D-ing it goes "Script done, file is typescript", "tightvncserver: Wrong type or access mode of /home/vdz/.vnc", "/etc/init/startvnc.conf: 4: /etc/init/startvnc.conf: end: not found". At least I have something to work with
[20:34] <VDZ> now
[20:34] <reisio> modernbob: same as ever
[20:34] <reisio> macwithlinux: http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[20:34] <guntbert> modernbob: 3.4? we have 3.2 here
[20:34] <escott> VDZ, anything in /etc will be run as root so /home/vdz is inappropriate
[20:34] <TPB_se> reisio, I guess. the x server settings up.
[20:34] <modernbob> reisio: doesn't work
[20:34] <TPB_se> *app
[20:34] <reisio> modernbob: how does it not work?
[20:35] <Darael> Draconicus: It's hardly ideal; *all* the 64-bit libraries would still be on the root filesystem, but at least it gets the 32-bit dupes out of the way.
[20:35] <sofco31> StevenR_: any progress
[20:35] <modernbob> it doesn't work with 3.4 kernel
[20:35] <VDZ> escott; but I don't want to run tightvncserver as root. Wouldn't that give me a complete root session? That'd defeat the entire point of requiring sudo and the like
[20:35] <guntbert> modernbob: the current kernel on precise is 3.2 - so why talk about 3.4?
[20:36] <escott> VDZ, then you have to wait until you login to start tightvnc
[20:36] <Gowie> Anybody know what is going on here: http://imgur.com/U2lDF ?
[20:36] <Afro_Samurai> Afternoon, I've got a question regarding separate /home partitions and encrypted /home's
[20:36] <Darael> VDZ: Put whatever it is in root's crontab and use "sudo -u vdz" in the command to run it as you?
[20:36] <Draconicus> guntbert: Maybe he wants to be like all the cool kids running Sid
[20:36] <modernbob> guntbert: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-precise/
[20:36] <reisio> Gowie: it would seem you've posted a screenshot
[20:36] <Gowie> And by here I mean the odd panel colors part
[20:36] <TPB_se> reisio, Yeah, it is.
[20:36] <modernbob> guntbert: because I had an issue with 3.2
[20:36] <dejahmoi> Afro_Samurai, what's the question?
[20:36] <Gowie> reisio: ya... my bad I didn't include the problem
[20:37] <guntbert> modernbob: you are aware the ppas are generally not supported?
[20:37] <reisio> TPB_se: there's a select/drop down for resolution there somewhere
[20:37] <reisio> Gowie: :p
[20:37] <escott> VDZ, my guess is that its not a problem to have the tightvnc server running as root
[20:37] <reisio> Gowie: just beats everyone guessing
[20:37] <bamestnik> Hello, I've two computers where several X terminal applications clip/crop the left half of there display.
[20:37] <modernbob> guntbert: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142192/can-i-install-linux-kernel-3-4-in-ubuntu-and-kubuntu-12-04
[20:37] <VDZ> This might work...rebooting to test
[20:37] <bamestnik> display==pty.
[20:38] <Afro_Samurai> So I did a fresh install for 12.04, and encrypted my  /home this time around. I presume this would add some steps to moving my /home to a separate partition, but I'm not sure what.
[20:38] <StevenR_> sofco31: not really. Looks quite different to my output here. Are you *certain* that the switch as autoneg turned on, and that you're using a straight cable?
[20:38] <TPB_se> reisio, There is, but there is no resolution I want :/
[20:38] <Darael> Afro_Samurai: Most people don't encrypt all of /home, although I suppose it's theoretically possible.  The standard approach in Ubuntu is to use ecryptfs to encrypt home /folders/ on a per-user basis.
[20:38] <modernbob> so is there a way to go back to the last kernel
[20:38] <reisio> TPB_se: which do you want?
[20:38] <fasta> Darael: how do I know whether it's encrypted?
[20:38] <TPB_se> reisio, 1440x1024.
[20:38] <Afro_Samurai> Darael Ah yes, that's what I meant ~/
[20:38] <Darael> Afro_Samurai: If you just chose the "encrypt my home folder" option, you're fine, no extra steps because it's not all of /home, just the user-directories in it.
[20:38] <chigy> I need a solution to compiz crush down in ubuntu 12.04
[20:39] <reisio> TPB_se: does it show up in the output of 'xrandr'?
[20:39] <escott> Afro_Samurai, the main concern would be to do the final copy from a livecd to ensure that the ecryptfs is not mounted on top of $HOME
[20:39] <Draconicus> bamestnik: I appreciate your use of classic vernacular, but you sound like an oldie trying new things. Are you using Compiz?
[20:39] <dejahmoi> Afro_Samurai, you needed to move it to the other partition before you encrypted it
[20:39] <Gowie> Oh wow it was just an extra panel that got added somehow.
[20:39] <bamestnik> Doing an ls shows several files, but one can tell that the output is only the last portion(80 columns) of the output.  Ordinarrilly the output is not visible, so I'm unable to discover the actual width of the display.
[20:39] <TPB_se> reisio, let me check.
[20:39] <bamestnik> Draconicus: only on one machine :)
[20:39] <Darael> fasta: running "mount" with no options and vgrepping for something to do with ecryptfs would be a start.
[20:40] <VDZ> escott, Darael; it finally works! Thank you so much
[20:40] <Afro_Samurai> dejahmoi:  I was afraid of that. Possible to remove the encryption without doing a full reinstall ?
[20:40] <bamestnik> Draconicus: Should I pretend that I have two problems?
[20:40] <TPB_se> reisio, No.
[20:40] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Okay, are you sure about that? If you aren't in Unity2d then you're using Compiz... unless you've got no panel. :P
[20:40] <reisio> TPB_se: you could try explicitly listing it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:40] <Darael> fasta: Sorry.  vgrep == visual grep, ie you visually scan for it because I don't remember exactly what'll show up.
[20:40] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Unless you're actually quite good at this and are using Gnome Classic, Xfce, KDE, etc...
[20:41] <bamestnik> Draconicus: On one box I'm using gnome-shell on the other it's gnome2
[20:41] <escott> Afro_Samurai, just follow the separate home migration but do it from a livecd and you will be fine
[20:41] <TPB_se> reisio, I believe I already did that.
[20:41] <bamestnik> ...err no, it's xfce
[20:41] <Afro_Samurai> Ok, thanks.
[20:41] <Darael> Afro_Samurai: dejahmoi is reporting incorrectly.  Follow escott's advice, or use a recovery shell, and all will be well.
[20:41] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Not many people realize that "gnome2" is really more of a reimplmenetation of GTK2 using slightly updated environment stuff, so "Gnome Classic" is actually more like Gnome Shell where it will indeed call Compiz if available.
[20:42] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Are both machines using similar video cards?
[20:42] <guggero> Hello everybody! I'm using xen-create-image to set up a XEN domU with ubuntu 12.04 LTS. In the process of creating the image I see the error message "Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/precise/updates/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found". Does somebody know how that source got in there? In my sources.list there are no debian sources named...
[20:42] <bamestnik> I guess the bets course is to work on the xfce box.
[20:42] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Err... Mutter, not Compiz.
[20:42] <dejahmoi> Afro_Samurai, I suspect what you would need to do is to create the other partition for home and then copy ("cp -R -p) all the /home folders to it, then edit your fstab to point to the new home partition. then you can re-encrypt the new home
[20:42] <TPB_se> reisio, Is it normal for it to say : # Removed Option "metamodes" "1440x900 +0+0"
[20:42] <Draconicus> Mutter? Wait, what's the new compositor? I've forgotten.
[20:42] <bamestnik> Draconicus: No, one is a netbook with intel g915(or whatever) and the other is radeon desktop.
[20:42] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[20:42] <escott> dejahmoi, please stop telling Afro_Samurai things that are incorrect
[20:42] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Same installation material for both?
[20:43] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[20:43] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[20:43] <reisio> TPB_se: probably, if it hates it :p
[20:43] <bamestnik> Draconicus: Just upgraded both to perscise or whatever.
[20:43] <dejahmoi> escott, what I just said works prefectly well for moving /home which is what afro_samurai wanted to do
[20:44] <bamestnik> I've another box that's been running perscise for a long time and did not have this issue, last I looked, a few day ago.
[20:44] <escott> dejahmoi, but he doesnt need to do all that. all he needs to do is perform the copy while logged in as somebody else so that the ecryptfs is not mounted on top of $HOME
[20:44] <Darael> dejahmoi: As long as the user isn't logged in (live CD, recovery shell...) just copying the ecryptfs store along with the user folders (all of which are in /home anyway) and editing /etc/fstab will be sufficient, no decrypt/re-encrypt required.
[20:44] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Hey, don't hate the pangolin. :P    Anyway, no idea then. Totally different video drivers... Running any extra applications on either that you've installed on both?
[20:44] <TPB_se> reisio, Is that not supposed to be there?
[20:45] <bamestnik> Draconicus: Not that I know of, thus far I've tested gnome-terminal and byobu.
[20:45] <escott> dejahmoi, the encrypted $HOME is designed to be a completely self-contained system on /home. its designed to allow migration of the /home partition by the system admin or a straight recovery from a livecd. it was built to do this
[20:45] <bamestnik> It looks like an issue with the PTY.
[20:45] <Draconicus> bamestnik: byobu, something that specifically fiddles with the display by the look of it. Try running without it on both.
[20:46] <joshdevel12> for anyone that might care, i forced a fail on the drive, zeroed the superblock, removed it via mdadm, and then readded.
[20:46] <Draconicus> bamestnik: The systems are too different to have the same problem. even if you had a derped install, with separate downloads the odds of the same packet failing and corrupting the same vital package and causing the same problem... Astronomical
[20:46] <Harris> i need help with my keyboard
[20:47] <Draconicus> Harris: Have you tried petting it?
[20:47] <TPB_se> reisio, I mean, what do I do now?
[20:48] <reisio> TPB_se: what'd you add to xorg.conf?
[20:48] <Harris> on my laptop next to the caps lock there is a light that turns on when caps lock is on
[20:48] <Draconicus> bamestnik: What I mean to say is that PTY is unlikely to be any kind of thing for this.
[20:48] <bsmith093> sudo make or just make?
[20:48] <TPB_se> reisio, I had previously added a few custom 'modes' below     SubSection     "Display"
[20:48] <TPB_se>         Depth       24
[20:48] <labrax_> @Harris, that's nice, tell us more
[20:48] <Harris> usb keyboard caps works but the light does not turn on
[20:48] <TPB_se> But they're gone now.
[20:49] <Draconicus> Harris: Have you tried another USB keyboard?
[20:49] <lorddelta> This is amazing: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn; are there any other security pages I should know about for ubuntu?
[20:49] <lorddelta> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn **
[20:49] <Harris> this is the only one i have Draconicus  but it used to work
[20:49] <reisio> TPB_se: mmm I forget the syntax, but the package should've come with some documentation in .html files which would explain it
[20:50] <Draconicus> Harris: Used to work in what? Windows?  Please let me know: Does the keyboard have an LED? Is it wireless? Have you checked for dirt on the LED?
[20:50] <compdoc> lorddelta, all just normal
[20:50] <bamestnik> Draconicus: What's derped install?
[20:50] <lorddelta> compdoc: ???
[20:50] <TPB_se> reisio, I didn't find any.
[20:50] <lorddelta> What's that supposed to mean.
[20:50] <reisio> TPB_se: well ask the channel how to find them
[20:50] <Harris> Draconicus,  it used to work in ubuntu 12.04 i dont know what an led is and it is a usb keyboard not wireless
[20:50] <Draconicus> bamestnik: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/derp
[20:51] <Draconicus> Harris: Wireless keyboards plug into your USB port unless they are Bluetooth or powered by evil voodoo.
[20:51] <Draconicus> Aw.
[20:51] <Draconicus> Harris: Wireless keyboards plug into your USB port unless they are Bluetooth or powered by evil voodoo.
[20:51] <bamestnik> Draconicus: The PTY might be the only communality for both terminal applications I've tested...  though they might both use glib.
[20:52] <OerHeks> Harris failing led is not a software thing
[20:52] <compdoc> lorddelta, all operating systems are constantly being updated. Even WIndows. Many of those security warnings are low priority, or for older versions of ubuntu.
[20:52] <Harris> Draconicus,  it is not wirelss
[20:52] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Did you try disabling that silly byobu thing yet?
[20:52] <Harris> Draconicus,  what is led
[20:52] <TomatoKetchup> Draconicus, he said it's his laptop if I read that correctly
[20:52] <dejahmoi> If as Harris said it works in wondows, then it is not a failing LED
[20:52] <Boohbah> Harris: light emitting diode
[20:52] <TomatoKetchup> Harris, LED = Light emitting diode, the thing that lights up
[20:52] <Harris> yes in the corner it has led
[20:53] <Draconicus> TomatoKetchup: He's got a USB keyboard plugged into a laptop and I'm just trying to eliminate possibilities. dejahmoi: He said it worked in 12.04, presumably the same installation.
[20:53] <TomatoKetchup> Draconicus, yeah didn't see him say USB, apologies
[20:53] <Draconicus> Harris: I know. I was just educating you. Don't use evil voodoo-powered keyboards please. Anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED <--- The little last-almost-forever lights in your computer are LEDs.
[20:54] <TomatoKetchup> Harris, so the capslock works, but the light isn't working...  correct?
[20:54] <bamestnik> Draconicus: It's an application...  I though it was a replacement for gnome-terminal.  I guess I need to gid up xterm.
[20:54] <Draconicus> Most USB keyboards have lights on them. Harris, does the light on the USB keyboard come on? It's just the one on the laptop that doesn't?
[20:55] <Harris> the light on the usb keyboard does but on the laptop it does not Draconicus
[20:55] <bamestnik> ahhh, xterm wins.  It's a gnome-terminal specific issue.
[20:55] <Draconicus> bamestnik: From what I see on launchpad, byobu is some kind of fancy paneling effect for the entire X screen. I would suspect it would interfere with your window drawing if it's misconfigured or borked in some other way.
[20:55] <NatGeo> hey, can someone here help me with my problem? :D
[20:55] <lorddelta> compdoc: That answer is incredibly meaningless to me. I want to know if/where other security notice sites can be found. This relates to a question I had before which was inadequately answered by a member of this channel. Specifically, I'd like to be able to look at a security advisory bulletin for recent security issues. I don't really care that they are low priority, I more care about knowing they exist and are being dealt 
[20:55] <sofco31> StevenR_: 100%
[20:55] <Draconicus> bamestnik: Really? Try xfce4-terminal for a nice equivilant to gnome-terminal feature-wise
[20:55] <bamestnik> Now that I have a graphical console I can better debug this.
[20:56] <bamestnik> I'll try... and no I think byobu only works with screen/text.
[20:56] <NatGeo> can anyone help me with a ubuntu / grub problem?
[20:56] <Draconicus> lorddelta: Google probably knows more than we do about this.
[20:56] <lorddelta> compdoc: I realize there are various public repositories of this information, but it seems difficult to verify what patches have been applied, even with patch notes.
[20:56] <Harris> Draconicus,  what should i do
[20:56] <bamestnik> Draconicus: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
[20:56] <Harris> both the keyboard and laptop are hp
[20:57] <lorddelta> Draconicus: Theoretically, yes. I don't trust Google 100%; also in my experience Google can be more confusing than helpful at times.
[20:57] <Harris> well ..........................................................
[20:57] <Draconicus> bamestnik: I use screen a bunch. My X is flakey and flash likes to eat it. I have to SSH in and use screen to pick up my minecraft server to shut it down safely if I can't unbreak X.
[20:57] <Draconicus> Harris: Hi.
[20:57] <Harris> Draconicus,  what should i do
[20:57] <Draconicus> lorddelta: My point is, we would just be googling to answer your question.
[20:58] <compdoc> lorddelta, oh, I see. Have you ever read the release notes for each new kernel version? Also, on that url you posted, be sure to select the version of Ubuntu youre using
[20:58] <Draconicus> Harris: You should answer my question about the LED.
[20:58] <dejahmoi> lorddelta, the try yahoo? maybe a search for "linux security advisories"?
[20:58] <Harris> what is your question about led Draconicus
[20:58] <Draconicus> Most USB keyboards have lights on them. Harris, does the light on the USB keyboard come on? It's just the one on the laptop that doesn't?
[20:59] <Harris> i answered that
[20:59] <Draconicus> Didn't see your answer. Sorry.
[20:59] <Harris> the light on the usb keyboard does but on the laptop it does not Draconicus
[20:59] <Draconicus> Okay. You said they're HP. I thought they might be. Was the HP laptop built between 2006 and 2009?
[20:59] <Draconicus> Harris: Or 2010?
[20:59] <spiritech> i have found hidden files ending in ~. they all seem to be duplicates of files i have created. is there a way to stop this?
[21:00] <dejahmoi> Harris, as long as you've got a LED coming on on the keyboard you're actually using, what's the problem?
[21:00] <Harris> Draconicus,  what about 2010
[21:00] <maclinux> oke now i have a problem with step 8 in usb instalation on mac
[21:00] <sesom42> spiritech: which editor do you use?
[21:00] <Draconicus> Between 2006 and 2010, HP used really flakey front panel materials, especially around the LEDs. I fix these buggers for a living (laptops in general - we just get lots of late 2000's HP laptops)
[21:00] <lorddelta> dejamoi, compdoc, Draconicus, not always, google doesn't have all the answers, and  not everyone in here uses google to answer questions. search engines are part of the problem, part of the solution, I can find linux security advisories. Don't think I haven't tried google/yahoo before. Research requires querying multiple channels/cross referencing. and yes, release notes do help. But I haven't yet found "ubuntu release notes
[21:01] <spiritech> sesom42 gedit normally.
[21:01] <compdoc> lorddelta, every kernel update has notes
[21:01] <maclinux> it states the operation isnt suported, and i checkt if i typed it wrong and copy pasted it, did not work
[21:01] <Draconicus> lorddelta: Don't forget to use quotation marks to have inclusive phrases as part of your search. Raw keywords don't turn out good results, and google is not context-psychic about word lists.
[21:01] <LjL> lorddelta: have you encountered the "blueprints" yet?
[21:01] <Harris> dejahmoi,  i need the light on my laptop on
[21:01] <lorddelta> LjL: perhaps not?
[21:01] <Draconicus> Harris: I said a thing back there. Lemme try again with your name on it.
[21:01] <Draconicus> Harris: Between 2006 and 2010, HP used really flakey front panel materials, especially around the LEDs. I fix these buggers for a living (laptops in general - we just get lots of late 2000's HP laptops)
[21:02] <LjL> lorddelta: this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise
[21:02] <dejahmoi> Harris, does the LED on the laptop work when the usb keyboard isn't connected?
[21:02] <spiritech> is that a feature for gedit?
[21:02] <sesom42> spiritech: in preferences -> editor you can turn off the automatic backup
[21:02] <Draconicus> Harris: In other words, it's probably burnt out. Sorry. Your laptop is made by HP. HP made junk for a while. I know how lousy that is to hear.
[21:02] <bamestnik> Draconicus: That's odd xfce4-terminal works also.
[21:02] <spiritech> ok.
[21:02] <Draconicus> bamestnik: The gnomes are conspiring against you. :(
[21:03] <spiritech> done.
[21:03] <Draconicus> Harris: Nevermind. I like dejahmoi's question.
[21:03] <Harris> Draconicus,  no because when i press caps on the laptop the light turns on
[21:03] <Draconicus> Harris: Okay! Does the light turn off on the keyboard when you do that?
[21:03] <Harris> no
[21:03] <Draconicus> (HP still makes cruddy frotn panels though)
[21:04] <Draconicus> Harris: Have you tried any other keyboard?
[21:04] <Harris> no this is all i have
[21:04] <lorddelta> LjL: hmm. well that might help. I guess I'll continue my search for now, since no one seems to know.
[21:04] <lorddelta> Thanks all.
[21:04] <Draconicus> Harris: We're mostly out of options, unless dejahmoi has a good idea. It might be the keyboard itself being stupid. Try borrowing a friend's USB keyboard to test if you can.
[21:04] <Draconicus> lorddelta: Thank you for your patience.
[21:05] <dejahmoi> I don't see what the problem is, if the LED on the active keyboard works
[21:05] <Harris> Draconicus,  it is summer break i dont see them for 3 months
[21:05] <Draconicus> Harris: Bummer.
[21:05] <TomatoKetchup> dejahmoi, I was about to say the same
[21:05] <Draconicus> TomatoKetchup / dejahmoi: He's obviously picky about these things.
[21:06] <snowblower> anybody here?
[21:06] <Draconicus> Everybody is here.
[21:06] <dejahmoi> 1618 people , sure
[21:06] <reisio> everyone that's here, anyways
[21:06] <TomatoKetchup> present!
[21:06] <snowblower> k
[21:06] <Darael> Draconicus, Harris: One way to check if it's the LED on the keyboard would be to try it with another box, or even another OS on the same box, if either is available.
[21:06] <Draconicus> I'm here AND my hair's on fire. :D
[21:06] <Harris> ok please hold
[21:06] <Darael> Draconicus: Been studying the Correspondence?
[21:06] <snowblower> been looking for somebody that may be able to shed some lite on a problem
[21:07] <baazigar|rajat> L3top : I upgraded my ubuntu , still i am getting this error when downloading Advanced Tweak tool through software center
[21:07] <baazigar|rajat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:07] <baazigar|rajat> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[21:07] <baazigar|rajat>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[21:07] <Darael> !anyone | snowblower
[21:07] <snowblower> im trying to remove a resolution from xrandr
[21:07] <lorddelta> Draconicus: hmm, looks like I may have answered my question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+cve
[21:07] <snowblower> but can quite seem to get it and im going insane
[21:07] <lorddelta> This is very close to what I'm looking for.
[21:08] <snowblower> well i have been reading up on this topic for about 4 hours now
[21:08] <snowblower> so mabey i read your problem
[21:08] <snowblower> ha
[21:09] <TomatoKetchup> ...?
[21:09] <snowblower> lorddelta
[21:09] <TomatoKetchup> ah
[21:09] <baazigar|rajat> Please someone solve this dependency error
 L3top : I upgraded my ubuntu , still i am getting this error when downloading Advanced Tweak tool through software center
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[21:09] <FloodBot1> baazigar|rajat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 !anyone | snowblower
[21:09] <maclinux> terminal crashed using the sudo dd if=/location of my dmg/
[21:09] <maclinux> also made allot of noise
[21:09] <dejahmoi> snowblower, I think maybe xrandr gets it's list of possible resolutions by querying the hardware
[21:10] <Darael> !paste | baazigar|rajat
[21:11] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: That looks like the aptitude multiarch bug, but you say you're using software-centre.  Have you triedinstalling with apt-get install anyway?
[21:11] <snowblower> well im having a problem with openElec. when resuming from suspention it forces a resolution that my tv does not like
[21:11] <maclinux> please help me out here, what do i do with that comand
[21:11] <Harris> Darael,  i just went into vista on the same computer and the lights worked
[21:11] <oliva> hi there ... does ubuntu support infiniband?
[21:11] <snowblower> so im trying to remove the option
[21:11] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : i am trying...
[21:11] <Harris> oliva, power of google
[21:11] <oliva> Harris: not clear from google
[21:11] <maclinux> why arent u responding
[21:12] <reisio> oliva: you can use infiniband with Ubuntu, I couldn't tell you if Canonical supports it actively
[21:12] <Darael> Harris: That tells us something.  Unfortunately, I'm no expert on that particular thing, but good luck getting someone who can help.
[21:12] <maclinux> hello??
[21:12] <Darael> !patience | maclinux
[21:12] <Darael> !elaborate | maclinux
[21:12] <oliva> I use to run ofed software distribution and it doesn't seems to be supported
[21:12] <oliva> what is Canonical?
[21:12] <dejahmoi> maclinux, I'd like to help but I don't have a Mac. A few Mac users have had troubles installing ubuntu though
[21:13] <Harris> on my laptop next to the caps lock there is a light that turns on when caps lock is on  usb keyboard caps works but the light does not turn on
[21:13] <maclinux> i have trouble doulbooting in general
[21:13] <Darael> Slim_: Canonical is a company that supports Ubuntu development and is heavily involved with it.
[21:13] <TomatoKetchup> oliva, the makers of Ubuntu
[21:13] <reisio> oliva: Canonical is the company that runs Ubuntu
[21:13] <oliva> I see
[21:13] <maclinux> i cant get it to work with the latest wubi.exe, ubuntu cd or usb
[21:13] <maclinux> i just want to try this thing out
[21:13] <maclinux> its been 3 days
[21:13] <dejahmoi> the Apple corp doesn't want you using anything but their OS
[21:13] <Slim_> What?
[21:13] <oliva> I'm not intrested in buying any support
[21:14] <Slim_> I never said anyting
[21:14] <reisio> maclinux: you could try it out in VirtualBox
[21:14] <Darael> reisio, TomatoKetchup: Technically Ubuntu is run by the Ubuntu Foundation.
[21:14] <maclinux> i did
[21:14] <Darael> Slim_: Apologies. mis-tab-complete.
[21:14] <maclinux> its to slow
[21:14] <reisio> oliva: any distro can utilize infiniband
[21:14] <Slim_> np
[21:14] <TomatoKetchup> well yeah
[21:14] <reisio> oliva: all I was saying was 1) that, and 2) I don't know if Canonical has paid any employees to write up a how to
[21:14] <bamestnik> Thanks a bunch for being around.
[21:14] <Darael> Slim_: Well, not true actually.  Thinking in the wrong keyboard layout.  But much the same thing.
[21:15] <abhinavmehta> i know this is ubuntu channel, but please can someone tell me where to talk about java(programming) ??
[21:15] <dejahmoi> #java
[21:15] <reisio> abhinavmehta: /msg alis list *java*
[21:15] <NatGeo> hey can someone here help me out? I kinda detailed something here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988145 but i would like the opinion of you guys
[21:15] <maclinux> this software iso and dmg and wubi.exe is crap why cant i just do it like any other dualboot
[21:15] <NatGeo> any thoughts? :P
[21:15] <reisio> maclinux: you can
[21:15] <reisio> maclinux: or rather, people can, you seem to be having trouble
[21:16] <abhinavmehta> donno what was wrong earlier..
[21:16] <chrislu5tic> I'm trying to convert .ogv to mpeg using winff and it says "Unable to create file "/home/lu5tic/.winff/ff120527171530.sh
[21:16] <maclinux> idk what im doing wrong
[21:16] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing thos command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[21:16] <baazigar|rajat> Darael :i dont know the exact name to be put after sudo apt-get install for installing Advanced Settings
[21:16] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[21:16] <abhinavmehta> thank you dejahmoi, reisio :)
[21:16] <maclinux> there isnt an error
[21:16] <reisio> maclinux: you might want to look into Boot Camp
[21:16] <maclinux> already did that
[21:16] <reisio> well if you've already looked into everything, there's not much anyone can do for you
[21:16] <reisio> not over IRC
[21:16] <dejahmoi> maclinux, the iso maclinux, are you trying to install ubuntu to the same harddrive as OS X, or a different drive?
[21:17] <maclinux> i have made a partition
[21:17] <baazigar|rajat> Darael: How to find the exact library name to any application to download via terminal?
[21:17] <maclinux> its fine i can get into it
[21:17] <GeekSquid> maclinux: can you burn the iso to a CD and start ubuntu from the CD by pushing C during bootup
[21:17] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Hmm.  Not sure, sorry, although there was a point at which software-centre would show package names as well as "friendly" names.  Don't know if it still does.
[21:17] <escott> !info apt-file | baazigar|rajat
[21:17] <maclinux> with tthe cd i get to thze purple menu
[21:17] <vagtastic> One of my LAMP servers is running Ubuntu. What is the cmd to bring it up to 12.04. Thought it was dist-upgrade?
[21:17] <chrislu5tic> i need to convert .ogv to mpeg,   winff wont do it for me anymore,, : /
[21:17] <maclinux> after that it gows black forever
[21:18] <escott> baazigar|rajat, you can also use !find in a private conversation with ubottu
[21:18] <baazigar|rajat> escott : thanks
[21:18] <maclinux> with the usb via unitbootin, i get to the unetboot screen but it shows instal ubunto 2 times
[21:18] <vagtastic> chrislu5tic ffmpeg -i your.ogv -codec:a copy -codec:v copy out.mpeg
[21:18] <GeekSquid> maclinux: I don't know how much RAM you have, but have you considered running it as a virtual machine via virtualbox
[21:19] <maclinux> wen presing ether one it wil freze
[21:19] <ionutzyyy> hello
[21:19] <ionutzyyy> again :)
[21:19] <maclinux> GeekSquid i have it in vertualbox
[21:19] <maclinux> its to slow
[21:19] <OerHeks> !upgrade | vagtastic
[21:19] <ionutzyyy> how can i instal google chrome on ubuntu?
[21:20] <vagtastic> ubottu thx. Ill look at that now.
[21:20] <dejahmoi> maclinux, can you scrounge-up any other hard drive to be entirely devoted  for ubuntu?
[21:20] <OerHeks> vagtastic, normally it appears with 12.04.1
[21:20] <vagtastic> ahh
[21:20] <GeekSquid> ionutzyyy: cromimum is the name in ubuntu
[21:20] <Darael> ionutzyyy: The website should offer download instructions, or get chromium, which is the unbranded version, with the chromium-browser package.
[21:20] <ionutzyyy> but when i tried to install it it gave me the version for ubuntu/debian
[21:20] <maclinux> ... again i did a partition on mac and an complete 120 gb ssd drive in my windows machine
[21:21] <maclinux> it dousnt do anything
[21:21] <maclinux> it just freazes up at login, or at the instaltion
[21:21] <Darael> GeekSquid: They're not quite the same, y'know.  Chromium uses all system codecs and flash-plugin, whereas Chrome has some built in.
[21:21] <ionutzyyy> so i should search for chromium?
[21:21] <GeekSquid> Darael: true, but for me close enough
[21:22] <dejahmoi> maclinux, even if you get ubuntu to install, I'd wonder if you'd have problems with grub not co-existing nicely with the mac's bootloader?
[21:22] <Darael> ionutzyyy: That's just because Ubuntu and Debian can use the same package.  Generally, though, just use Chromium.  Doesn't require external downloads, just grab it from the Software Centre.
[21:22] <maclinux> i use the ubuto provided bootloder at the moment
[21:22] <maclinux> that part works
[21:23] <OerHeks> maclinux, maybe the mac wiki is any help?
[21:23] <OerHeks> !mac
[21:23] <Darael> ionutzyyy: There are occasional reasons to use Chrome instad of Chromium (Indian Railways website inexplicably behaves differently, for example) but mostly, yeah, just use Chromium.
[21:23] <maclinux> mac wiki?
[21:23] <ionutzyyy> okay :)
[21:24] <ionutzyyy> i'll try
[21:24] <ionutzyyy> and btw
[21:24] <TPB_se> Can I get his info in Ubuntu? http://i.imgur.com/pOGWV.png
[21:24] <ionutzyyy> how i turn off visual effects?
[21:24] <ionutzyyy> its killing me how slow works
[21:24] <streulma> hi iunutzyyy
[21:25] <Darael> ionutzyyy: Run Ubuntu 2D - click the logo in the top-right corner of the box around your username at the login screen.  Fastest way.
[21:25] <OerHeks> ionutzyyy, log out, choose unity 2d and login
[21:25] <streulma> ionutzyyy: are you using Linux on a Mac ?
[21:25] <ionutzyyy> no
[21:25] <ionutzyyy> i have normal pc.. i just ionstaled it
[21:25] <ionutzyyy> before i had w sp3
[21:25] <ionutzyyy> and worked very nice
[21:26] <escott> TPB_se, xrandr should give some but there should be some other tools to read edid information
[21:27] <ICWeiner> #xubuntu is dead right now, so do you guys know how to change terminal colors?
[21:27] <escott> !find read-edid | TPB_se
[21:27] <ionutzyyy> and before the log in screen i have a message from the monitor "imput not suport"
[21:27] <ionutzyyy> input*
[21:27] <kontact> :)
[21:29] <Kondor_> :)
[21:29] <TPB_se> Does anyone know what standards are GTF, DMT etc?
[21:30] <Ademan> soo... apport crashed :-D
[21:32] <BA707> Hello...   Still working the bugs out of v10.04 LTS here.  Doing a fresh install and another scty and main update solved the problem with not getting the password field on DM start.  But now every time I log in to my account from that point, the moust cursor disappears.  I've been able to get it back by opening a term and running 'mc', which brings the cursor back as soon as it starts.  Any thoughts on what can be done to fix this ?  (please do not suggest upg
[21:32] <BA707> rade to the latest verision, I've already tried that and with my video chipset, 12.04 is not acceptable)
[21:32] <BA707> mouse
[21:32] <baazigar|rajat> On terminal, sudo apt-get install systemsettings gives me dependency error
[21:32] <baazigar|rajat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:32] <baazigar|rajat>  kdepim-runtime : Depends: akonadi-server (>= 1.3) but it is not going to be installed
[21:33] <baazigar|rajat> escott , Darael please help
[21:34] <Cerrdor> so install it
[21:34] <baazigar|rajat> it cant be installed
[21:34] <maclinux> i give up, this software sucks, since u people always give me anoter way to instal it and none of them work, and u guys never answer the question why is this doing this,
[21:34] <Cerrdor> sudo apt-get instal akonadi-server && apt-get install systemsettings
[21:35] <BA707> mac I just had the same problem with PuppyLinux folks, but I've been well assisted here so far..
[21:35] <dejahmoi> maclinux, it only sucks trying to install it on Apple products
[21:35] <Cerrdor> word
[21:35] <maclinux> dejahmoi i tryed it on my windows machine to
[21:36] <maclinux> wubi.exe and cd
[21:36] <BA707> maclinux: I think it has a lot to do with your hardware...   Some systems just don't work well with some OS's.  And it can be a long process to find the one perfectly suited for your machine..
[21:36] <baazigar|rajat> Cerrdor : some packages installing in the terminal...
[21:36] <Cerrdor> maclinux did you run the tool before you tried to install that asseses your system to see if its able to run linux?
[21:36] <maclinux> Cerrdor
[21:36] <maclinux> what
[21:36] <maclinux> what tool
[21:37] <ICWeiner> #xubuntu is dead right now, so do you guys know how to change terminal colors?
[21:37] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: systemsettings isalmost certainly not the package you want, wspecially if it's pulling in KDE dependencies.
[21:37] <vagtastic> Normally I use Debian testing set up to upgrade as a rolling distro. Anyway to do that with Ubunut. I do not see anything like "wheezy" or "sid" but maybe I missed something?
[21:37] <maclinux> Cerrdor give me that tool
[21:37] <Darael> ICWeiner: Depends on the terminal in question, generally.
[21:37] <Cerrdor> maclinux when you first run the Ubuntu installer it has a list of various options, install, run live, check the system and two others
[21:38] <BA707> ICWeiner: have you tried 'preferences' in the term window ?
[21:38] <Cerrdor> but since you have no idea what I was refering to I can only assume you have not ran it
[21:38] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : I need Advanced Settings Gnome3 tweak tool
[21:38] <maclinux> Cerrdor it crashes wen i pres any of tose options
[21:38] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : But i dont know its package name
[21:38] <escott> vagtastic, its not the same. ubuntu takes a debian version freezes the packages and then cleans things up for about a month to make a codename release
[21:38] <Cerrdor> and your system must not meet requirements hence it locks up like a older one of mine did when it wouldnt run linux
[21:38] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Let melook it up...
[21:38] <Wingede> maclinux, do you have an intel mac?
[21:38] <maclinux> yes
[21:38] <escott> vagtastic, rather about 3-6 months
[21:39] <Wingede> maclinux, and when you boot it crashes half way through booting?
[21:39] <vagtastic> escott kind of looks like Ubuntu is taking what is know as wheezy/testing at release. Could be wrong ...
[21:39] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: You've tried the gnome-tweak-tool package?
[21:39] <escott> vagtastic, they've switched it up at different times in the past. not sure what they currently are using
[21:39] <ICWeiner> I don't know how to do that. I'm in tty.
[21:39] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : should i sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool?
[21:40] <BA707> ICW: are you running the term in a GUI desktop ?  I run 'GNOME Terminal 2.30.2' here and there are numerous color settings in the prefs pull down menu from the menu bar.
[21:40] <streulma> maclinux: whats the problem? talk with me :-)
[21:40] <vagtastic> escott well its not stable (good thing too) that comes out like every 2 years and is crap on a desktop.
[21:40] <streulma> I'm using also Ubuntu on my 2 macs
[21:40] <BA707> ICW: Oh..  you are in the CLI ?  Command Line Interface...  Never mind..
[21:40] <ICWeiner> BA707: I'm in ctrl alt f1 and I h8 the blue color
[21:40] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: That should work, yes.
[21:41] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Were you aware that given the first character or two, the tab key will complete a nick?
[21:41] <vagtastic> escott testing is not unstable as you seem to know. It just means maybe there could be a non critical bug or something.
[21:41] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Sorry, wrong target.
[21:41] <Darael> BA707: Were you aware that given the first character or two, the tab key will complete a nick?
[21:41] <BA707> ICW: Sri, can't help you there..  I only run a term from the GUI.
[21:43] <BA707> Darael: actually, that does not seem to work in 'Empathy 2.30.3'...   Works in Pidgin, but not here. .
[21:43] <baazigar|rajat> Darael, even i didnt know it !!
[21:43] <BA707> Darael: Ahh.. yes it does work here, but there are so many "Da" in the chan that it wasn't completing it..  :-/
[21:44]  * klync is in da house
[21:44] <baazigar|rajat> Darael, : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:44] <baazigar|rajat> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:45] <Cerrdor> because you have another terminal open or package manager using su
[21:45] <Darael> bazhang: Is the software centre doing something in the background?  How about other terminals?
[21:45] <BA707> Guess no help here at the moment with losing the mouse cursor on login to Gnome from the 'DM.  I'll try back later..
[21:45] <Darael> bazhang: Sorry!
[21:45] <Darael> baazigar|rajat:^
[21:45] <Cerrdor> Darael and again lol
[21:45] <jane_wayne78> can someone explain xen + ubuntu to me? xen is a type 1 hypervisor, so it sits on the hardware directly, and acts like an operating system itself, yet, i have to install ubuntu, then install xen, so doesn't this mean xen sits on ubuntu and not directly on the hardware?
[21:46] <Darael> Cerrdor: My excuse is that I'm unused to a QWERTY keyboard, so I'm not watching the screen but the keys.
[21:46] <baazigar|rajat> Cerrdor,Darael : i killed other terminals still getting the error
[21:46] <klync> jane_wayne78: xen includes a special kernel and userspace utility progs to allow virtual machines (and the "base" OS) to share the hardware
[21:46] <dagerik> baazigar|rajat: Also quit the package manager.
[21:47] <klync> what do people recommend for ripping a cd to mp3? the app i've always used was removed from "precise" :(
[21:47] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Software centre?  Do a "ps -e | grep dpkg", as well as closing any other package managers.  If nothing returns, you can safely sudo rm the lockfile.
[21:47] <escott> jane_wayne78, i think xen has some notion of a priviledged guest. think of it as a admin guest who can "sudo" and make the hypervisor do things (like allocate for a new guest)
[21:47] <baazigar|rajat> ok, lock error went away but The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:47] <baazigar|rajat>  gnome-session : Breaks: unity-2d (< 5.4~) but 4.12.0-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[21:48] <BA707> ICWeiner: I just tried the command 'setcolor' in xterm, and apt asked me if I meant 'set_color', suggested 'fish', perhaps there is a path of info for setting color of xterm there ?
[21:48] <baazigar|rajat> i did sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[21:48] <jane_wayne78> so is xen a type 1 hypervisor or not?
[21:49] <steffen123> hi! i'm trying to help a friend set up ubuntu and got her to boot 12.04 from USB and install ssh-server. she's online and has set a root pw but i dont seem to be able to connect. does anyone have any ideas/pointers what i could be doing wrong?
[21:49] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: add unity-2d to the install line, and it should upgrade, at least if you're on Precise.
[21:49] <jane_wayne78> or is it that we are using ubuntu to bootstrap installing xen and then on the next reboot just running xen?
[21:49] <klync> steffen123: she's behind a firewall or nat router?
[21:49] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : ok...
[21:49] <sesom42> BA707: you can use setterm with --foreground and --background to set colors in xterm
[21:49] <compdoc> xen is type 2 (bare metal)
[21:50] <compdoc> damn, type 1
[21:50] <steffen123> klync, she is but a port forward has been configured, and the symptom is the same to her housemate who is on the same LAN
[21:50] <escott> jane_wayne78, In Xen systems the Xen hypervisor is the lowest and most privileged software layer.[2] This layer supports one or more guest operating systems, scheduled on the physical CPUs. The first guest operating system, called in Xen terminology domain 0 (dom0) is executed automatically when the hypervisor boots and receives special management privileges and direct access to all physical hardware by default. The system administrator
[21:50] <escott> can log into dom0 in order to manage any additional guest operating systems, called user domains (domU) in Xen terminology.
[21:50] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: That looks more than a little like an incomplete upgrade to me.  Install any available upgrades *before* trying to add software to avoid messages like that.
[21:50] <steffen123> oh i should've mentioned, first connection attempt i got a time out, since then i get connection refused
[21:50] <compdoc> xen is type 1, and uses a modified kernel
[21:50] <jane_wayne78> escott: so dom0 = ubuntu ?
[21:50] <klync> steffen123: nmap or telnet shows she is listening on the port? perhaps it's iptables running local on the machine then?
[21:51] <escott> jane_wayne78, presumably
[21:51] <jane_wayne78> escott: because if i installed xen then ubuntu, i can see what you're saying, but i'm installing ubuntu then xen..
[21:51] <klync> steffen123: if you can telnet to the port, enable more verbose logging in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, restart the service, then tail /var/log/auth.log
[21:51] <BA707> sesom42: Thanks..  it was ICWeiner that was looking for the color set procedure...
[21:51] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : i did upgrade last night but a lot of packages were kept back
[21:51] <steffen123> klync, its the live environment so i can check if iptables is running, just a moment, my VM is hanging ;)
[21:52] <BA707> ICWeiner: Did you see 'secom42' post ?
[21:52] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: You'll need to update your repository information and try to resolve that before trying to install other things.
[21:52] <escott> jane_wayne78, but you need something to install xen. xen can talk to the hardware, but it doesnt have any userspace tools to allow you to control the hardware. without dom0 it will boot and just sit there
[21:52] <jane_wayne78> escott: when i do a hard reboot on my physical computer, what am i booting back into? xen or ubuntu?
[21:52] <BA707> ICWeiner:  Excuse me..  'sesom42'
[21:52] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : please tell me how...
[21:52] <escott> jane_wayne78, technically both
[21:53] <jane_wayne78> escott: so that means i boot back into xen, and somehow, i log into ubuntu = dom0 to do my manipulations?
[21:53] <jane_wayne78> wow, that's confusing, i'm not even sure how i would explain that in writing
[21:53] <Darael> steffen123: Don't forget to allow root login in the sshd configuration file as well; it's normally blocked regardless of whether there's a root password set.
[21:53] <jane_wayne78> (i'm making my own wiki for self-cosumption)
[21:53] <Darael> steffen123: That's not relevant to the connection refusal, though.
[21:53] <steffen123> Darael, yeah, i was going to tackle that next, thanks for the reminder tho. still waiting for my VM hehe
[21:54] <hellyeah> now
[21:54] <escott> jane_wayne78, think of xen like the kernel and dom0 like the initrd+root filesystem . sure you can boot a kernel but thats not very useful. you need that userspace to be able to do anything
[21:54] <hellyeah> i have complain
[21:54] <hellyeah> ubuntu said installing package 17 hours remaining
[21:54] <hellyeah> man who waits 17 hours to upgrade a system
[21:54] <hellyeah> thats so wacky
[21:55] <jane_wayne78> escott: thanks.. after ubuntu + xen is installed, then it seems easy to explain, but the fact that ubuntu is installed first and xen second, and then reading documents that xen sits on the hardware layer doesn't make sense
[21:55] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Well, would you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for me?  If it asks whether you should continue, just pastebin up to that point.  Thanks.
[21:55] <klync> hellyeah: wait til you get to the cleanup! :P
[21:56] <escott> jane_wayne78, well xen doesn't have an installer. so you install ubuntu, and then you install xen and use ubuntu to set xen up as the hypervisor and also configure the current ubuntu as dom0, then the next time you reboot xen starts and brings up dom0
[21:56] <Darael> hellyeah: It's dependent on your network.  It may be faster to change mirrors, or download the Alternate CD for the next release, mount the image, and use the upgrade script on that.
[21:56] <jane_wayne78> escott: if u installed ubuntu, then matlab (in this order), you wouldn't say, matlab sits on the hardware, it actually sits on ubuntu which then sits on hardware, i guess i'm trying to make such an analogy and it's confusing me
[21:56] <escott> jane_wayne78, im just guessing since i've never used xen, but that would make sense to me
[21:56] <jane_wayne78> escott: that is super clear now.. so ubuntu is used to bootstrap the installation and then ultimately becomes dom0
[21:57] <Darael> jane_wayne78: I'm not familiar with how it works, but perhaps think of the xen packages as xen *bootstrap* packages?
[21:57] <jane_wayne78> escott: with kvm, a type 2 hypervisor, the explanation is more intuitive
[21:58] <hellyeah> it already got the new package
[21:58] <hellyeah> it just install the package system got from internet
[21:58] <hellyeah> i mean seems process is slower than gentoo
[21:58] <hellyeah> and gentoo packaging compilation is totally another issue
[21:59] <Darael> hellyeah: You may be using a slow mirror.  It's often worth looking into.
[22:00] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : its still running, total 25 packages till now.
[22:01] <Cerrdor> lol
[22:01] <hellyeah> they didnt ask me about mirror but i am sure installing package part is not related with internet
[22:01] <hellyeah> :D
[22:02] <TomatoKetchup> hellyeah, it's done downloading and it says 17 hours?  That does not seem normal...
[22:02] <hellyeah> i mean
[22:03] <hellyeah> gettinng new package is done not installing that package
[22:03] <TomatoKetchup> hellyeah, yes that I what I mean
[22:03] <hellyeah> this is the first time i saw something like that okey it generally takes hours but this is too much
[22:04] <steffen123> ok im lost now.. i installed openssh-server but i cant figure out the upstart jobname
[22:04] <steffen123> and its not showing up in ps aux either
[22:05] <steffen123> doing stuff like "start ssh" "start openssh" "start ssh-server" all leads to "job not found" :(
[22:05] <fr500> steffen123: it's ssh
[22:05] <fr500> try sudo service ssh start
[22:05] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : here is the output of your command http://pastebin.com/QzmSenEg
[22:06] <Darael> steffen123: May not have been converted to an upstart job.  Try "service ssh start"?
[22:06] <steffen123> fr500, i got a root shell using "sudo -i" so i'll skip the sudo, but it says "unknown job: ssh"
[22:06] <jkbrennan77> just installed 12.04 on Sony laptop, trackpad and external mouse do not work, neither do wireless or wired network - everything does work when I boot same machine with 12.04 usb key - I've reinstalled a couple times but same result - where do I begin?
[22:06] <fr500> steffen123: what version?
[22:06] <fr500> ubuntu version
[22:06] <steffen123> 12.04
[22:06] <compdoc> steffen123, try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[22:06] <steffen123> companion_, did, it suggests service ssh start, then says: initctl: unknown job: ssh
[22:06] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Go for it.
[22:07] <steffen123> erm, the last one was for compdoc, sorry
[22:07] <steffen123> this is from the live cd if that matters
[22:07] <compdoc> I see
[22:07] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : this time very less packages were kept back, last time nearly half of them were kept back
[22:07] <Ca11um> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&release=lts&bits=32
[22:07] <escott> compdoc, you should really use sudo service rather than directly calling to /etc/init.d
[22:07] <Ca11um> I've just downloaded that ISO, and burned it onto a disk
[22:07] <fr500> steffen123: oh... dunno then, maybe just run sshd
[22:08] <fr500> and escott why should? I mean it invokes the same doesn't it?
[22:08] <Ca11um> When I boot it from BIOS, it has '.' for a few seconds, and then just resumes onto Windows (which is pre-installed)
[22:08] <steffen123> fr500, great idea
[22:08] <compdoc> escott, seems to work either way for me. whats the downside?
[22:08] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Sometimes upgrades have to be done in waves, for reasons I don't fully understand.  Usually it's a result of using a development release or having an interrupted release-upgrade.
[22:08] <Ca11um> Is there a bootable image, or am I using the wrong form of disc?
[22:08] <Darael> escott: ...Or at the very lease use invoke-rc.d, right?
[22:09] <escott> compdoc, fr500, the users login environment may have variables that would have unexpected affects on the service. "service" cleans up the environment so it looks like it starts directly under the clean environment of PID 0
[22:09] <aaas> anyone know a good file comparison program (I used to use kdiff long ago)
[22:09] <steffen123> fr500, i had to create a folder that it complained about but now it works, cheers :)
[22:09] <escott> aaas, diff, meld
[22:09] <steffen123> also thanks to everyone else who tried
[22:09] <escott> aaas, gvimdiff
[22:09] <fr500> steffen123: cool
[22:09] <fr500> np
[22:09] <aaas> thanks
[22:10] <aaas> yes i want a gui
[22:10] <steffen123> aaas, i used kdiff3 in the past
[22:10] <ubuntu_64bit> hi all
[22:10] <Darael> aaas: For text files, ediff is the 800-lb gorilla of diffing and merging but requires use of emacs and is thus not most people's cup of tea.
[22:10] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : maybe last time i did sudo apt-get upgrade and not dist-upgrade
[22:10] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : and what is wave upgrade?
[22:10] <steffen123> aaas, on the off chance that you want this for git, install git-cola instead
[22:10] <escott> aaas, standalone user friendly diff tool i would go with meld. otherwise use your favorite guis diff tool
[22:11] <ubuntu_64bit> sorrryy friends am asking this  if i get problem with ubuntu 12.04 where can i report
[22:11] <escott> aaas, s/guis/text editor/
[22:11] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: That may have had something to do with it as well, but it's still rarely necessary to hold packages back packages when things are normal.  Wave was just my metaphor: perhaps "batches" would be easier to understand.
[22:11] <aaas> i like the side-by-side comparision
[22:12] <aaas> seems like to omuch work to get it working on emacs when meld is available
[22:12] <Darael> aaas: As I said, not everyone's cup of tea.  Great if one already uses emacs, though!
[22:13] <ubuntu_64bit> sorrryy friends am asking this  if i get problem with ubuntu 12.04 where can i report
[22:13] <aaas> actually i do, but the interface seems a bit klugy for diffing purposes for my taste... but i usually do the -nw flag so maybe im just not used to it Darael
[22:14] <fr500> ubuntu_64bit: in launchpad I guess
[22:14] <Darael> aaas: Well, if meld works, go with it.  Use What Works, and if something else might work better, try it when there's time.
[22:15] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : It may take more than an hour to download those huge upgrages , will tell you if the problem is solved .
[22:15] <Darael> baazigar|rajat: Hope it all works!
[22:16] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : yep :)
[22:20] <ubuntu_64bit> fr500,   in launchpad there is alot  bureaucracy
[22:24] <fr500> ubuntu_64bit: you want to report a bug right_
[22:24] <fr500> ?
[22:24] <ubuntu_64bit> fr500, yes its  a bug report
[22:25] <fr500> ubuntu_64bit: then launchpad it is
[22:25] <Daekdroom> Launchpad is not bureaucratic at all if you consider how many different packages the developers have to maintain.
[22:26] <daze> is there a way to put some of the launcher icons at the bottom, just above the trashcan? (not the bar, just an icon or two. the whole bar is on left, as by default)
[22:27] <daze> that's for Ubuntu 12.04, Gnome, Unity
[22:28] <ubuntu_64bit> Daekdroom,  sure if them to reply is an issue
[22:28] <escott> daze, which one gnome or unity
[22:28] <daze> unity :]
[22:28] <daze> (isn't unity a kind of plugin of gnome?)
[22:28] <Darael> daze: Dragging them to the right, away from the launcher, should let you rearrange them.  Don't recall if that lets you move them to the bottom of the list and can't check; I'm not in Unity right now.
[22:29] <xangua> daze: unity is a shell for gnome desktop
[22:29] <Darael> daze: Unity is built on Gnome3, but uses a different shell and window manager.
[22:29] <escott> daze, you could try something like unity-tweak
[22:30] <daze> yeah, I can rearrange them fine, just was wondering how the trash can got there and if I can have a sort of 'less used' icon group :]
[22:30] <daze> will check unity-tweak, thanks
[22:31] <ggherdov> Hi all. I believe I found a bug in a package, but before filing a bug report I'd like to make sure I am not missing anything obvious. Who should I contact? the package is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/solr-common
[22:32] <fr500> ggherdov: you need to try to reproduce the bug, if it still happens you need to report it
[22:34] <ggherdov> fr500: there is little to reproduce... in the README they say "go to this directory", but that directory doesn't exists. details here: http://pastebin.com/LziHADHh
[22:35] <ggherdov> how do I report such a thing?
[22:35] <fr500> I guess you'd just report it there in launchpad
[22:36] <ggherdov> ok I'll try that. thanks.
[22:36] <escott> ggherdov, its standard procedure to separate the docs and binaries. see if there is a docs package for that project
[22:36] <Ca11um> I've downloaded the Windows Installer for Ubuntu 12.04, but nothing appears after launching it
[22:36] <Ca11um> I see random process names appearing in task manager, but nothing else
[22:36] <ggherdov> "apt-cache search sorl" doesn't show a "doc" package
[22:36] <ggherdov> solr*
[22:37] <Harris> Darael, can you help me with my keyboard problem
[22:38] <Harris> does anyone have an hp pavilion dv6000
[22:38] <Harris> deadmund are you online
[22:40] <trism> ggherdov: the files are in the package source, but doesn't seem like they are installed (although it is mentioned in debian/TODO), you can: apt-get source solr; if you just want to look at them
[22:41] <trism> ggherdov: although README.Debian mentions they aren't really suitable for production use
[22:41] <ggherdov> trism: ah the source... what is that, another package? ok, no good for production but useful for learning tho.
[22:42] <ggherdov> or is the *source* of the package? what is the source of a package? can package be somehow... compiled? sorry if it is obvious.
[22:42] <trism> ggherdov: it is the package used to build the other solr binary packages
[22:42] <ggherdov> trism: ok.
[22:43] <hellyeah> still said 14 hours
[22:43] <hellyeah> lol
[22:43] <gmkeros> evening, does anyone here have a clue how to handle a Grub Out of disk error?
[22:45] <Boohbah> gmkeros: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[22:46] <kandinski> anybody here uses synergy? I have this weird bug... using 12.04 in both client and server, I can't access the client's (remote machine's) unity dock
[22:47] <kandinski> it's hidden, and it comes out when I use the machine's mouse, but not when I move the pointer via synergy
[22:47] <kandinski> anyone else seen this behaviour?
[22:49] <gmkeros> hmm... doesn't seem to be on there
[22:51] <zowsz> http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/574996_10150990727922244_710502243_11860631_225240904_n.jpg
[22:52] <dr3mro> hello , i use ubuntu 12.04 .. I use autologin to unity desktop but when i try to switch users or logout or restart X server i get a window with a message that indicates that it fails to detect my graphics and my keyborad and i have to reconfigure them but i can switch VT and reboot normally again and it works but it happens again when i switch users or logout or kill X any help
[22:52] <yggdrasil> omg trying to get the stuff for vcsa is a pain
[22:53] <Boohbah> yggdrasil: are you named after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil_Linux/GNU/X ?
[22:53] <RBV> Is there a CPU and network meter I can put near the clock, or it shows the meters in a dock icon?
[22:53] <lionelandres> vaysini.
[22:53] <yggdrasil> uh
[22:53] <yggdrasil> Boohbah: no, after the tree
[22:55] <hellyeah> what
[22:55] <hellyeah> abot
[22:55] <hellyeah> sorry
[22:56] <khayyim> So I was running partimage on a 200GiB partition, and noticed that while bzip2 and gzip made almost the exact same-sized result, bzip2 took a whole day while gzip only took a few hours. Is this typical? It seemed like bzip2 took several times longer for negligible space savings.
[22:56] <wawowe> khayyim: it always depends on what you're compressing
[22:56] <jaime> hi guys
[22:57] <wawowe> khayyim: but gzip will always be faster
[22:57] <khayyim> So it's really just in this specific case that I didn't see a lot of space savings, but perhaps with other files bzip2 might prove worthwhile?
[22:58] <wawowe> khayyim: yea
[22:58] <RBV> bzip is much much slower
[22:58] <DJSBX> so hoping somebody could help me out with something. Is there anything stopping me from using a usb stick that is constantly plugged in to the server as the location for /boot?
[22:58] <khayyim> No dogging on bzip2, btw; I use it all the time, and only noticed an issue with this mongo file operation.
[22:58] <bsmith093> how long does it take to make qt4? i need it for a little fanfic downloader I'd rather not give up, and the build has been compiling for 90min now
[22:59] <khayyim> Thanks all, that answers the question.
[22:59] <RBV> DJSBX: you can install the whole system to usb if you want
[22:59] <DJSBX> RBV ok cool.
[22:59] <DJSBX> issue is that I have 3 drives in the system and I tried to make a new 12.04 ubuntu server installation
[22:59] <DJSBX> I wanted to do them as raid 5, but after install I cant get it to boot
[22:59] <RBV> bsmith093: How fast is your computer? It can take 2-3 hours on a older machine (1.6GHz Pentium-M laptop in my experience)
[22:59] <escott> DJSBX, im not sure what the failure rate of usb thumb drives is
[22:59] <DJSBX> from what IVe read, the solution is to keep /boot on a separate drive
[23:00] <DJSBX> so I just need *something* to keep /boot on I guess
[23:00] <DJSBX> and I dont really want to buy a harddrive just for that :S
[23:00] <RBV> That should be fine
[23:00] <bsmith093> RBV: ugh thats what i have 2ghz i 686 core2 duo
[23:00] <DJSBX> I guess I could buy a harddrive for the main system, and just mount the other 3 as raid 5 separately
[23:00] <RBV> bsmith093: Did you run 'make -j 2
[23:01] <DJSBX> but there really isnt room in the case for another HD, and I dont want to buy another case lol
[23:01] <bsmith093> RBV:  no jst make
[23:01] <escott> DJSBX, i usually run a raid1 /boot and then whatever raid level you want on the rest of the disk
[23:01] <bsmith093> RBV: cn i stop in the middle and restart iwth that?
[23:02] <RBV> bsmith093: That option will let it run 2 jobs at once. so it will build two filse at one time, it helps. Use -j 3 actually.
[23:02] <escott> bsmith093, yes. make won't recompile objects unless the source files are modified
[23:02] <bsmith093> k then so j-3
[23:02] <OkonX> hi
[23:02] <OkonX> Hey guys I have a serious issue
[23:04] <RBV> bsmith093: I think I built Q4 3-4 different times until I got the right version I could use to build SQLite explorer
[23:04] <DJSBX> escott: im not too sure what you mean
[23:04] <NictraSavios> I have an interesting question...say I had a single partition housing my root, home, boot, etc. Everything. But I wanted to increase security by making /boot and /var 'mount' with the options noexec,nosuid and nodev ... would it be possible?
[23:04] <OkonX> I installed old versions of libssl and openssl in hopes of fixing a wifi issue--and it was fixed. However, I then had problems with the package manager and thus I decided I'd force remove them through dpkg. Then through synaptics I tried to fix all the packages that depended on them and I did. Now, synapitcs still says I have some broken dependencies but I can't seem to solve them
[23:05] <escott> !separatehome
[23:05] <escott> NictraSavios, follow ^
[23:05] <shachaf> Is there a simple way of sharing a printer over Zeroconf?
[23:06] <OkonX> here is a screen cap of my synaptics package manager: http://i.imgur.com/HOTj2.png
[23:06] <OerHeks> NictraSavios, Sure, you are very secure, your system won't /boot AFAIK
[23:06] <NictraSavios> Actually, /boot is fine with nodev,nosuid and noexec.
[23:07] <wawowe> there's nothing in /boot that needs to be 755
[23:07] <NictraSavios> Regardless, I'm trying to keep my current layout (It actually has a separate /boot and /, but I used it in my example anyway), while enforcing better permissions.
[23:08] <escott> NictraSavios, you could probably just keep /boot unmounted. it wouldnt make any difference
[23:08] <shachaf> Aha! Got it.t
[23:08] <escott> NictraSavios, the only time you ever need /boot to be mounted is when you are installing a new kernel
[23:08] <NictraSavios> Most guides say the nodev, nosuid and noexec options on a separate partition are the way to go, but I've maxed out my partition count and I'd rather not go through the nighmare of creating extended partitions.
[23:09] <wawowe> OkonX: run "apt-get -f install" with sudo and if there's an error pastebin it
[23:09] <acolyte> Hey, guys, I have a question. I have two Windows installations, and I'd like to wipe one out to install Ubuntu. So, my question is, what can happen if I format the drive where Windows is located?
[23:09] <escott> NictraSavios, usually those are directed at partitions that adversaries would have control over. so /var might make sense because webserver local files would be there, /home because users home directories are there, anything pluggable under /media
[23:09] <NictraSavios> Yes yes, I know all of that. I do a little more with /boot and just booting. So in my case, I do keep it mounted for my own reasons. I'd really just like to know how to keep better security on /var, /tmp and /dev/shm without creating all new partitions.
[23:10] <OerHeks> acolyte 2 windows - 1 windows = 1 windows
[23:10] <NictraSavios> In short, how to played the nodev,nosuid and (tmp excluded) noexex bits on those points.
[23:10] <acolyte> So, no problems with the bootloader or anything like that?
[23:10] <userdsfdas23> technically, that's 1 window
[23:10] <userdsfdas23> :)
[23:11] <OkonX> wawowe: here is the error paste http://pastebin.com/c3LKZ8Ne
[23:11] <OerHeks> acolyte, grub2 bootloader will take care of that.
[23:11] <NictraSavios> userdsfdas23, Shouldn't his original be windowses... :P Multiple windows? Haha.
[23:11] <OkonX> I installed libssl1.0.0 (the older version) and then removed it
[23:11] <userdsfdas23> point made!
[23:12] <NictraSavios> Anyway, anybody got ideas or is my query impossible?
[23:12] <escott> NictraSavios, just do it. whats the problem?
[23:12] <acolyte> Alright, thanks. :) And just to be sure. What would happen if I didn't install grub2 afterwards?
[23:13] <wawowe> OkonX: you have something installed that depends on libssl
[23:13] <OkonX> see http://i.imgur.com/HOTj2.png
[23:13] <wawowe> OkonX: something that most likely isn't in the ubuntu repo
[23:13] <NictraSavios> escott, /var is located on the root partition... it is not "mounted". I have no idea how to set those permissions on it.
[23:13] <OerHeks> acolyte, you can allways fix thix with the live cd
[23:13] <OkonX> wawowe: libssl is a core packae
[23:14] <acolyte> Okay. Thanks a lot for your help! :)
[23:14] <OkonX> wawowe: see the screen shot--it tells me i have latest installed but things are still broken
[23:14] <escott> NictraSavios, noexec is a mount option. you would have to create a partition and mount it
[23:14] <NictraSavios> escott, Anyway to emulate that behaviour otherwise? Apparmor?
[23:15] <wawowe> OkonX: libssl:i386?
[23:15] <escott> NictraSavios, sure or selinux, perhaps even some filesystem attributes with chattr
[23:15] <wawowe> OkonX: is that in the amd64 repo?
[23:15] <meisth0th> hello
[23:16] <OkonX> wawowe: i have no clue why that's there or where that's from. I have 64 bit 12.04 installed
[23:16] <escott> wawowe, no, by definition it isn't, but with multiarch you can install it
[23:16] <NictraSavios> Hmm, looks like I'll have to read man chattr haha. I prefer AppArmour over SElinux ... I find the former to be simply not worth the headache it creates
[23:17] <wawowe> OkonX: apt-get autoremove
[23:17] <OkonX> hm
[23:17] <wawowe> OkonX: apt-get remove libssl1.0.0:i386
[23:18] <NictraSavios> Oh, and It slipped my mind. wawowe /boot not only works with 755, I have mine set to 600 without  a hitch
[23:18] <OkonX> wawowe: http://pastebin.com/a2qMSZ34
[23:18] <escott> NictraSavios, the permissions on /boot are completely meaningless. /boot never actually exists as part of the boot process
[23:19] <eph3meral> how do I configure my mic in ubuntu? and or more specifically, where do I go to troubleshoot/double-check that I am receiving any input signal at all?
[23:19] <escott> wawowe, you shouldn't remove a package that was automatically installed
[23:19] <eph3meral> like a meter, like on regular music equipment, just a single vertical bar that bounces up and down with the volume
[23:19] <eph3meral> so that then while I'm troubleshooting/trying diff things I can figure out whether or not I'm actually getting any input?
[23:20] <wawowe> escott: you should if you don't need it anymore, assuming the package that depended on it is gone
[23:20] <escott> eph3meral, alsamixer
[23:20] <eph3meral> also, does anyone have experience setting up a USB headset (like a gaming headset)
[23:20] <escott> wawowe, but had you verified that?
[23:20] <OkonX> wawowe: http://pastebin.com/Bqz4m7uS
[23:21] <NictraSavios> escott, True. That actually never occurred to me even though I was aware of it.
[23:22] <wawowe> escott: yes
[23:23] <eph3meral> escott, ok actually that doesn't show me interactive levels, and i'm familiar with that, the only option I have there is "Mic Jack Mode" and I can choose either line in or Mic In
[23:23] <eph3meral> i'm familiar with what line level signal is, honestly I'm not sure whether this is line level signal or not, it's just a headset, i think it's mic in
[23:23] <RBV> eph3meral: Did you say "Check, mic check"
[23:23] <OkonX> wawowe: should I try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and then  "sudo apt-get install -f" as it says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#How_to_fix_broken_packages
[23:23] <walkinwithjesus1> hiya
[23:24] <Culiforge> when I use ssh to create a dir on a remote machine.. it's created with 'owner' - '1000'... that's not right is it?
[23:24] <eph3meral> RBV, I don't follow, sorry, what now?
[23:25] <escott> Culiforge, 1000 is the ubuntu standard for the first normal user created on the system. what exactly are you seeing with ls -l on that file
[23:25] <wawowe> OkonX: apt-get --force-yes remove libssl1.0.0:i386
[23:25] <eph3meral> there's no level-bar on the mic input in alsamixer
[23:25] <eph3meral> much less do any of the level bars respond to the actual levels going through
[23:26] <escott> wawowe, why should OkonX force remove this package when it IS being used by the other packages.
[23:26] <Culiforge> escott: drwx------ 1 mediabox mediabox 4096 2012-05-17 18:27
[23:26] <escott> Culiforge, so what is the question?
[23:26] <Culiforge> escott: mediabox it the remote ssh
[23:26] <wawowe> escott: it's not being used by another package
[23:27] <Culiforge> escott: well, when I mount  a share via nfs.. i have no permission to enter the directory.. not even as root
[23:27] <OkonX> wawowe: ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 : Depends: libssl1.0.0:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[23:27] <escott> Culiforge, sounds like you dont understand NFS.
[23:27] <OkonX> that's what the previous error said
[23:27] <OkonX> but i'll try this
[23:27] <^SpitFire> culiforge is culiflower
[23:28] <eph3meral> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture is pretty much no help at all, nor is http://www.ehow.com/how_7360838_configure-headset-microphone-skype-xubuntu.html
[23:28] <escott> Culiforge, NFS exports shares by uid. its as if you physically disconnected the drive and plugged in into the other computer. for a well functioning NFS system you should verify that the /etc/passwd files on the two machines match, or use LDAP
[23:28] <wawowe> OkonX: do you need ia32 libs for anything?
[23:29] <OkonX> wawowe: i don't know what that's for. anyhow i tried that line but this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/2gAbEx9d
[23:30] <escott> Culiforge, since you didnt do that initially you could either fix things by creating the required users and chown files around until they match or use some UID mapping functionality http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nfs.htm
[23:30] <trevor> nick nick
[23:30] <test> I need help
[23:30] <wawowe> OkonX: if you're running 32bit applications for some reason.. like flash or something
[23:31] <OerHeks> wawowe, no, it is part of multiarch
[23:31] <wawowe> OerHeks: that would be the point of having a multi-arch
[23:31] <genii-around> test: A good description to the room of what you need help with is a good start
[23:32] <OerHeks> ubuntu 12.04 is multiarch, standard.
[23:32] <Culiforge> escott: I was under the impression that the nfs share is created under the noone/nobody creds (according to the instructions I followed) I'll check out that link and see what I can learn..
[23:32] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[23:33] <wawowe> OerHeks: oh. so then the issue is why does the libssl package conflict with the libssl:i386 package
[23:33] <OkonX> wawowe: ok i fixed everything! here is what I did: sudo dpkg -r --force-depends "libssl1.0.0"
[23:33] <OerHeks> wawowe, correct
[23:33] <OkonX> wawowe: and then I did: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:34] <OkonX> wawowe: and then sudo apt-get install -f
[23:34] <wawowe> OkonX: good job :)
[23:37] <oskar_> Hi. I am looking for a command in the console for viewing a specific line of a file. for example, 36 lines
[23:37] <escott> oskar_, sed -n 36p should work
[23:38] <escott> oskar_, if you want lines 1-36 you can use head -n 36 or sed -n 1,36p
[23:39] <OkonX> BUT! this still leaves the problem of me being unable to connect to my college's wifi because of some bug--this affects ubuntu when i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. This also affects Fedora 16. It might have something to do with wpasupplicant, openssl, and/or libssl. That is why I downgraded in the first place. https://bugs.launchpad.net/wpasupplicant/+bug/969343
[23:42] <wawowe> OkonX: your apt said there were 40 packages that were being held back
[23:43] <wawowe> OkonX: the fix might be in there
[23:43] <eph3meral> ok, so I selected my headset in alsamixer, but that really didn't change anything
[23:44] <pgib> Does anyone know how to enable the "window frame controls" when a window is maximized in Ubuntu 2d?
[23:45] <pgib> that is, when a window is maximized, the "Close" "Minimize" and "Unmaximize" buttons are not in the upper-left corner of the screen
[23:45] <OerHeks> pgib hit F11
[23:46] <pgib> hmm, that works in some programs (Like firefox) but not in Nautilus
[23:47] <pgib> OerHeks, wait, no. it looks like F11 just does full screen (at least on firefox and terminator) I don't want full screen - I just want a way to unmaximize without having to "Guess" which area in the top-left corner of the screen is a button
[23:49] <TheAscended> hey all. You know that blinking cursor next to the text that you type? I was in gedit and something happened where it started replacing text instead of inserting text, so I can't fix my work without having to re-write large portions of it
[23:49] <TheAscended> I'm not sure which button I pushed to change that
[23:49] <TheAscended> can anyone help me?
[23:49] <OerHeks> pgib alt F8 to grab your window to resize, i think that does not work in full screen mode..
[23:49] <Darael> TheAscended: The key is "insert".
[23:49] <pgib> http://snag.gy/xP9dB.jpg
[23:50] <Darael> TheAscended: The name is slightly misleading, but generally it changes between "insert" and "overtype" modes.  You've accidentally dropped into overtype.
[23:50] <OerHeks> TheAscended, keyboards basic, hit the ins key again
[23:50] <pgib> OerHeks, doesn't work if the window is maximized.  Note: Maximized != Fullscreen
[23:50] <OkonX> wawowe: ok, i'm updating everything through the update manager--including the unstable ubuntu repo
[23:51] <pgib> If I press F11, then the window consumes the *whole screen* no launcher, no titlebar
[23:51] <OerHeks> pgib odd, nautilus should go back to normal with F11
[23:51] <pgib> but it isn't fullscreen!
[23:51] <pgib> It is only maximized
[23:51] <TheAscended> thank you very much
[23:52] <Darael> TheAscended: No problem.  It's occasionally a useful feature to know about, but much more often a pain when one accidentally hits it!
[23:52] <pgib> OerHeks, see my screenshot? The window is maximized. The mouse is over the global menu area. The global menu is displayed.  The Icons for controlling the window are missing.  I can click in that area and have the window close, unmaximize, or iconify - but it is hard to remember exactly where t oclick
[23:53] <stef1a> anybody know why the hell ubuntu 12.04 isn't allowing me to change the brightness on my laptop? http://i.imgur.com/h3Ve6.png
[23:53] <strictland> I have teamviewer to autostart... but how do i make it auto minimize as well?
[23:55] <TomatoKetchup> pgib, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770070
[23:55] <LinuxFan> ubuntu 10.04  dar ist ein problem > systemprotokoll betrachter.  var/log/ btmp Die Datei ist keine gewöhnliche oder keine Textdatei. weiss jemand ein rat ?
[23:56] <escott> !de | LinuxFan
[23:56] <TomatoKetchup> pgib, not sure if that will help exactly, best I could do.  There is somewhat of a solution in there, but the user experienced errors upon executing
[23:57] <TomatoKetchup> pgib, also can't you just double click anywhere on the empty area of the global menu to unmaximize?
[23:58] <pgib> oh, that is a cool work around
[23:58] <vagtastic> Just updated a 10.04 headless lamp server to 12.04. Its an old machine running a 32bit cpu with pae for memory. Was wondering why the kernel was only bumped up to hyperspace 3.0.0-20-generic-pae and not 3.2.0 ?
[23:59] <vagtastic> sry hyperspace is the name of the machine.
[23:59] <wawowe> vagtastic: have to upgrade to 11 before 12
[23:59] <wawowe> vagtastic: upgrade again